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1 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 11:01:13am

how is it today?

2 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 11:09:51am

re: #1 FemNaziBitch

how is it today?

Baby tiger.

3 simoom  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 11:24:11am

I was going through the GOProud director’s recent tweets because I was curious if they were planning on attending CPAC this year. What I found interesting is they seem a lot more willing to directly criticize their party these days, which seems very different to me from the past:

4 Targetpractice  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 11:26:09am

I keep wondering just how toxic the environment for them has to get before GOProud and the Log Cabin folks throw up their hands and abandon the party. I’d think that, by this point, the GOP has made it pretty clear that gays are not welcome.

5 Lidane  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 11:26:55am

re: #4 Targetpractice

I keep wondering just how toxic the environment for them has to get before GOProud and the Log Cabin folks throw up their hands and abandon the party. I’d think that, by this point, the GOP has made it pretty clear that gays are not welcome.

Remember — it’s the messaging, not the message.

///

6 Targetpractice  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 11:30:26am

Oh Lidane, I have some bad news: The wingnuts have a strong crush on Ted Cruz right now. Apparently being a big enough asshole that both parties hate you is sending tingles up their legs.

7 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 11:30:27am

re: #2 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Baby tiger.

very cute!

8 The Mountain That Blogs  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 11:33:04am

re: #6 Targetpractice

Oh Lidane, I have some bad news: The wingnuts have a strong crush on Ted Cruz right now. Apparently being a big enough asshole that both parties hate you is sending tingles up their legs.

Birthers floating Cruz’s name as a possible presidential candidate will never not be hilarious.

9 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 11:33:27am

Elizabeth Warren for POTUS.

10 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 11:33:34am

re: #6 Targetpractice

Oh Lidane, I have some bad news: The wingnuts have a strong crush on Ted Cruz right now. Apparently being a big enough asshole that both parties hate you is sending tingles up their legs.

I was just reading some of that. It’s like an object example of how totally screwed up the right wing blogs are.

11 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 11:34:04am

re: #10 Charles Johnson

I was just reading some of that. It’s like an object example of how totally screwed up the right wing blogs are.

we are living in two different realities, it seems.

12 Varek Raith  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 11:34:49am

Ted Cruz = Joe McCarthy.

13 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 11:36:51am

The nastier and more disconnected from reality a Tea Party politician is, the more the right wing base loves it. They’re addicted to rage and have giant persecution complexes.

Fun way to live!

14 simoom  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 11:38:06am

re: #4 Targetpractice

I keep wondering just how toxic the environment for them has to get before GOProud and the Log Cabin folks throw up their hands and abandon the party. I’d think that, by this point, the GOP has made it pretty clear that gays are not welcome.

Unlike GOProud, the Log Cabin folks still seem to be strictly observing Reagan’s “Eleventh Commandment.”

For example, here’s LCR’s response to the SoTU:
[Link: www.logcabin.org…]

WASHINGTON, D.C. — Moments ago, the President addressed both chambers of Congress and called for policies that will expand the role of government and increase the burden on American taxpayers. The tax-and-spend policies of the Democratic Party have grown our nation’s debt to record levels, and now each citizen owes an unbelievable $52,000 as their share of the national debt.

Log Cabin Republicans is proud to fight for an America in which social inequality is a part of an unfavorable past, but we stand firm on our principles of smaller government, lower taxes, and greater individual liberties.

Gregory T. Angelo, Log Cabin Republicans Interim Executive Director issued the following statement:

As LGBT conservatives, Log Cabin Republicans is pleased with recent progress toward equality for gay and lesbian Americans. As citizens, however, we are fearful of the future that the next generation of gay Americans will inherit. As we fight for equal rights to pass down to this new generation, we must also worry about the economy we are passing down. The Democratic Party’s perennial cure-all of big government programs paid for by raising taxes on hard-working Americans has to stop. House Republicans have now put forth and twice passed a fiscal plan, while the Democrat-controlled Senate and the White House have yet to show the country anything more than paper-thin rhetoric. If the President truly wants to be an ally to our community, he will not only continue pushing for social equality, but stop with the platitudes and get serious with a plan that addresses our nation’s fiscal problems.

I particularly like the opening sop to, “recent progress toward equality for gay and lesbian Americans,” with no mention of which party is at the vanguard of that progress and which has been fighting it tooth-and-nail. /

15 Targetpractice  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 11:40:28am

re: #14 simoom

Unlike GOProud, the Log Cabin folks still seem to be strictly observing Reagan’s “Eleventh Commandment.”

For example, here’s LCR’s response to the SoTU:
[Link: www.logcabin.org…]

I particularly like the opening sop to, “recent progress toward equality for gay and lesbian Americans,” with no mention of which party is at the vanguard of that progress and which has been fighting it tooth-and-nail.

Yeah, that seems to be the LCR MO, cover for a party that hates you with every fiber of its being by saying “Well, at least they agree on other things we like…”

16 freetoken  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 11:40:36am

Not the Onion:

The Payson (Arizona) local newspaper ran an article about a local politician trying the back-door approach to getting creationism into public schools:


Lawmaker Wants Science Teachers To Present Both Sides Of Controversy

The article itself is fine, but the sole comment on that article illustrates America’s problem with creationism:

Pete Greer 2 days, 12 hours ago

Please see my comments under “Kindly lawmakers must love teachers” on creationism being unscientific. My comment on this article is that I taught biology for 11 years at Payson High School and I taught how different theories had different views on the same evidence when it comes to interpreting evidence from the unobservable past. I kept the discussions in the scientific realm and I did not receive any complaints from this style of teaching. An hour or two on answersingenesis.org or icr.org will show that the mainstream creationists know that adaptation is observable and can change a species to a degree that a new species may be named. In other words, I do not believe animals were created exactly as they appear now! What is disputed by creationists is the belief that one kind of life can become another kind. Any alleged evidence for that event in the past is subject to interpretive filters simply because it cannot be observed in the the lab or in present day nature. Because there is no mechanism known for the microbe to add information to its genome to become all living things including man I must conclude that evolution in the microbe to man sense has never happened. The fact is that the Biblical concept of kinds found in Genesis 1 is the most accurate explanation of what we can observe today in life that I have found. I have always believed that data that is collected by a scientist using the scientific method from beginning to end and verified as valid by other scientists should be considered; and in fact truth can not be discerned until all valid data is considered. My Bible based biology homeschoolers were taught to learn evolutionary views because I want them to be able to discern what the people who held to those views believed and why. I submit that that is the best kind of teaching. Finally, as those home school students have progressed into college biology they have been ridiculed and ostracized if they would dare ask about an interpretation of evidence that would support a non evolutionary view. There is a lot more need for this bill than most people realize.

“Bible based biology” - indeed.

17 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 11:41:02am

Breitbart hack John Nolte has the stupidest take on Ted Cruz yet: ‘Times,’ ‘WaPo’ Launch Racially-Coded Attack Against Hispanic Cruz.

To Nolte, Ted Cruz can’t possibly be “white,” because he’s Hispanic. That’s more revealing than he knows.

18 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 11:43:29am

Cruz is definitely a player:

Cruz served as a law clerk to William Rehnquist, Chief Justice of the United States, and J. Michael Luttig of the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit.[16] Cruz was the first Hispanic ever to clerk for a Chief Justice of the United States.[17]

Cruz has authored more than 80 United States Supreme Court briefs and presented 43 oral arguments, including nine before the United States Supreme Court.[13]

In the landmark case of District of Columbia v. Heller, Cruz assembled a coalition of thirty-one states in defense of the principle that the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution guarantees an individual right to keep and bear arms.[18] Cruz also presented oral argument for the amici states in the companion case to Heller before the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit.

In addition to his victory in Heller, Cruz has successfully defended the Ten Commandments monument on the Texas State Capitol grounds, the recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools and the 2003 Texas redistricting plan.[19]

Cruz also successfully defended, in Medellin v. Texas, the State of Texas against an attempt by the International Court of Justice to re-open the criminal convictions of 51 murderers on death row throughout the United States.[13]

19 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 11:43:48am

The right wing audience never gets tired of the old “reverse racism” bullshit. It stokes their persecution fantasies.

20 Shvaughn  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 11:45:29am

So a couple dozen people showed up at the big “pro-Dorner” protest in LA.

Also, OWS something something.

21 Targetpractice  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 11:45:43am

re: #13 Charles Johnson

The nastier and more disconnected from reality a Tea Party politician is, the more the right wing base loves it. They’re addicted to rage and have giant persecution complexes.

Fun way to live!

They live by the motto “If you’re not angry, you’re not paying attention.” Thing is they can’t understand that what they see is the product of their own policies, instead believing that everything wrong with America is because of “liberals.”

22 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 11:47:48am

re: #8 The Mountain That Blogs

Birthers floating Cruz’s name as a possible presidential candidate will never not be hilarious.

Cruz was born in Calgary, his mother was/is American. Does that make him eligible for POTUS?

23 The Mountain That Blogs  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 11:48:10am

re: #16 freetoken

Because there is no mechanism known for the microbe to add information to its genome to become all living things including man I must conclude that evolution in the microbe to man sense has never happened.

The “to become all living things including man” part is necessary because there are plenty of ways for microbes to add information to their genome.

So much derp.

24 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 11:48:55am

re: #20 Shvaughn

So a couple dozen people showed up at the big “pro-Dorner” protest in LA.

Also, OWS something something.

Some of them somehow got the mistaken impression that the rally was was actually in support of Dorner
[Link: twitpic.com…]

25 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 11:49:21am

An attorney/investment banker who worked for Goldman Sachs. There is lots of room for skeletons in that closet.

26 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 11:50:58am

re: #19 Charles Johnson

The right wing audience never gets tired of the old “reverse racism” bullshit. It stokes their persecution fantasies.

And if you point out that a GOP darling-of-color is being used as a token, you’re the racist for calling someone a token.

27 Shvaughn  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 11:51:07am

re: #24 Killgore Trout

Some of them somehow got the mistaken impression that the rally was was actually in support of Dorner
[Link: twitpic.com…]

This! Is! Serious!

28 subterraneanhomesickalien  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 11:51:24am

I really have no sympathy for the GOProud or Log Cabin tools.

When you endorse candidates for national office that are perfectly earnest in their beliefs that you should be imprisoned for your natural sexual desires, just because you value supply side dogma over said ability to have consensual sex with an individual of the same sex makes you just as terrible a human being in my mind.

29 Shvaughn  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 11:51:36am

re: #26 wrenchwench

And if you point out that a GOP darling-of-color is being used as a token, you’re the racist for calling someone a token.

Well, calling someone a “token” is really kind of insulting in general.

30 Romantic Heretic  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 11:53:37am

re: #21 Targetpractice

They live by the motto “If you’re not angry, you’re not paying attention.” Thing is they can’t understand that what they see is the product of their own policies, instead believing that everything wrong with America is because of “liberals.”

As I’ve noted before, much of the what constitutes the right wing in the States consists of anger addicts. These people need to hate in the same way a junkie needs to shoot up. The withdrawal otherwise is a hideous experience.

Unfortunately, like all addicts, they need to get bigger hits more often to keep the same level of intoxication. And being that high all the time causes severe mental distortions.

This, to me, explains much of the wingnuts behaviour. They’re addicts and they act like addicts.

31 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 11:53:52am

re: #29 Shvaughn

Well, calling someone a “token” is really kind of insulting in general.

But if you’re pointing out that someone is being used as one, you’re not calling the person a token. Maybe a dupe, or maybe complicit in the marginalization of minorities, but that’s different.

32 freetoken  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 11:54:01am

Your local creationist would not approve:

A couple of days ago news of a new paper on Neanderthal genes in modern humans made the news. Many people may not realize the paper is publicly available:

Higher levels of Neanderthal ancestry in East Asians than in Europeans

Abstract:

Neanderthals were a group of archaic hominins that occupied most of Europe and parts of Western Asia from roughly 30-300 thousand years ago (Kya). They coexisted with modern humans during part of this time. Previous genetic analyses that compared a draft sequence of the Neanderthal genome with genomes of several modern humans concluded that Neanderthals made a small (1-4%) contribution to the gene pools of all non-African populations. This observation was consistent with a single episode of admixture from Neanderthals into the ancestors of all non-Africans when the two groups coexisted in the Middle East 50-80 Kya. We examined the relationship between Neanderthals and modern humans in greater detail by applying two complementary methods to the published draft Neanderthal genome and an expanded set of high-coverage modern human genome sequences. We find that, consistent with the recent finding of Meyer et al. (2012), Neanderthals contributed more DNA to modern East Asians than to modern Europeans. Furthermore we find that the Maasai of East Africa have a small but significant fraction of Neanderthal DNA. Because our analysis is of several genomic samples from each modern human population considered, we are able to document the extent of variation in Neanderthal ancestry within and among populations. Our results combined with those previously published show that a more complex model of admixture between Neanderthals and modern humans is necessary to account for the different levels of Neanderthal ancestry among human populations. In particular, at least some Neanderthal-modern human admixture must postdate the separation of the ancestors of modern European and modern East Asian populations.

Interesting stuff. Human mobility, it seems, has led to a very complex path of evolution of us, the modern version of the genus.

33 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 11:54:17am

[Link: www.ustream.tv…]

Livestream. She just finished interviewing a guy holding a sign with a police officer’s home address and personal information.

34 dragonath  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 11:55:02am

re: #18 FemNaziBitch

Rehnquist always seems to turn up in things like this. He didn’t believe in desegregation, voted against court precedent in Bush vs. Gore… and employed Cruz.

Just another fine accomplishment for the Worst Chief Justice Ever.

35 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 11:55:09am

re: #30 Romantic Heretic

As I’ve noted before, much of the what constitutes the right wing in the States consists of anger addicts. These people need to hate in the same way a junkie needs to shoot up. The withdrawal otherwise is a hideous experience.

Unfortunately, like all addicts, they need to get bigger hits more often to keep the same level of intoxication. And being that high all the time causes severe mental distortions.

This, to me, explains much of the wingnuts behaviour. They’re addicts and they act like addicts.

I’ve learned that under Anger is Depression and under that is Fear. Which certainly follows the Wingnut logic.

Paranoia is their mantra.

36 jaunte  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 11:55:45am

re: #29 Shvaughn

Well, calling someone a “token” is really kind of insulting in general.

Maybe we could call Cruz a “beard.”

37 Shvaughn  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 11:56:16am

re: #33 Killgore Trout

[Link: www.ustream.tv…]

Livestream. She just finished interviewing a guy holding a sign with a police officer’s home address and personal information.

It’s really cute how Trout is acting like he just discovered there are stupid people out there who blindly hate all cops.

OMG!

OWS!

38 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 11:59:06am

The Michigan Nurse story is really freaking me out. Randall posted it before I did.

39 Romantic Heretic  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 12:00:37pm

re: #35 FemNaziBitch

I’ve learned that under Anger is Depression and under that is Fear. Which certainly follows the Wingnut logic.

Paranoia is their mantra.

Yep. I used to suffer from all of those, in that order. I solved most of the fear problem by becoming a shut in for the most part. I still find that being around human beings starts the cycle all over again.

The nice thing about the internet is I can shut it off when I find my fear, depression and anger being triggered. It’s much easier to step away form the bar in cyberspace.

40 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 12:02:22pm

re: #39 Romantic Heretic

Yep. I used to suffer from all of those, in that order. I solved most of the fear problem by becoming a shut in for the most part. I still find that being around human beings starts the cycle all over again.

The nice thing about the internet is I can shut it off when I find my fear, depression and anger being triggered. It’s much easier to step away form the bar in cyberspace.

I took a lot of work for me to get out that loop. Current events about my particular hot button makes it even more challenging.

41 Shvaughn  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 12:04:26pm

It’s like when Trout suddenly cared about minor vandalism stories when someone vaguely connected to OWS was doing it, and hasn’t bothered to care about vandalism since then.

It’s super serious important to note when “OWS moonbats” do something, because we criticize “conservative wingnuts” do something, so we’re just condemning everyone who does something wrong! Which is why Trout is always telling us about minor acts of vandalism around the world.

42 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 12:05:23pm

re: #32 freetoken

Your local creationist would not approve:

A couple of days ago news of a new paper on Neanderthal genes in modern humans made the news. Many people may not realize the paper is publicly available:

Higher levels of Neanderthal ancestry in East Asians than in Europeans

Abstract:

Interesting stuff. Human mobility, it seems, has led to a very complex path of evolution of us, the modern version of the genus.

How could it be any other way?

43 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 12:05:36pm

re: #37 Shvaughn

These are the fringiest of the fringe. According to their statement, the rally’s purpose was actually to protest the corruption of the LAPD, but they made a mistake by calling it “Stand with Dorner.” Nobody will turn out for a rally to support a mass murderer.

This shows how much real support there is for Dorner, even on the left — virtually none. It’s the fakest of fake outrages.

44 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 12:06:42pm

The experts are saying the meteor’s explosion was as bright as 10 Suns. I wonder if anyone was blinded by it.

45 freetoken  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 12:07:40pm

re: #42 b_sharp

How could it be any other way?

Have you never read the Bible????????????

46 Shvaughn  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 12:08:56pm

OMG! Vandalism watch!

Some dude’s trailer was vandalized with swastikas and stuff

Six young people have been arrested in the vandalism of a Pace trailer that was originally classified as a hate crime, the Santa Rosa County Sheriff’s Office said.

(I haven’t done this for a while now.)

47 Shvaughn  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 12:09:39pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

It’s the fakest of fake outrages.

… until the next fake outrage comes along.

48 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 12:11:14pm

re: #45 freetoken

Have you never read the Bible????????????

Certainly. Recognizing that it was a work of fiction helped me in my quest to become more science minded.

49 freetoken  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 12:13:13pm

One more story from last week on human evolution:

Fossil in Serbia suggests human migration

A fossil find in a cave in Serbia suggests Eastern Europe was an important pathway in human evolution as mankind spread out of Africa, scientists say.

Canadian researchers, with partners from France, England and Serbia, have dated a partial lower human jaw as being almost 400,000 years old, and said it could be even a half-million years old.

That makes the jawbone the easternmost European fossil of its age so far discovered, sharing far more in common with African and Asian fossils than with contemporary examples from Western Europe, the researchers said.

“During this time, humans in western Europe started to develop Neanderthal traits, which are lacking in this specimen,” paleoanthropologist Mirjana Roksandic from the University of Winnipeg said. “Humans in southeastern Europe were never geographically isolated from Asia and Africa by glaciers and accordingly, this resulted in different evolutionary forces acting on early human populations in this region.”

[…]

It would appear that our mobility makes geographic isolation weaker, as far as evolutionary mechanisms is concerned. Our ancestors have been roaming the planet for quite some time, moving not only out of but also into Africa.

50 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 12:14:49pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

These are the fringiest of the fringe. According to their statement, the rally’s purpose was actually to protest the corruption of the LAPD, but they made a mistake by calling it “Stand with Dorner.” Nobody will turn out for a rally to support a mass murderer.

This shows how much real support there is for Dorner, even on the left — virtually none. It’s the fakest of fake outrages.

When an outrage is necessary to justify the belief the left is evil incarnate, anything will do.

51 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 12:18:06pm

re: #49 freetoken

One more story from last week on human evolution:

Fossil in Serbia suggests human migration

It would appear that our mobility makes geographic isolation weaker, as far as evolutionary mechanisms is concerned. Our ancestors have been roaming the planet for quite some time, moving not only out of but also into Africa.

One more nail in The Bell Curve fan fiction coffin.

52 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 12:19:40pm

bbl

53 makeitstop  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 12:21:01pm

re: #33 Killgore Trout

[Link: www.ustream.tv…]

Livestream. She just finished interviewing a guy holding a sign with a police officer’s home address and personal information.

Combing every obscure corner of the web for crumbs. Feh.

54 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 12:23:24pm

It’s interesting to contrast the left’s reaction to Christopher Dorner to the right’s reaction to Scott Roeder and the murder of Dr. George Tiller.

If you search for them, you can find leftists who think Dorner is some kind of hero, but they are absolutely, definitely not mainstream. By far the majority of leftist criticism has been pointed at the police for their heavy-handed treatment of the case. I’ve seen almost no articles in mainstream left publications that lionize Dorner, and on Twitter the vast majority of left-wing commentary has not done this either. Quite the reverse.

But with Scott Roeder something very, very different happened. When he gunned down Dr. Tiller in his church, the right wing commentariat online erupted with open support and admiration for Roeder. He was lauded as a hero. It was beyond disgusting, and it was at every single right wing blog and news site; the owners of those blogs said nothing to discourage it, not a word.

That’s how it is.

55 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 12:27:39pm
56 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 12:29:21pm

I have no doubt that if some right wing group had organized a protest to support Scott Roeder after he murdered Dr. Tiller, many more people would have turned out.

57 Mattand  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 12:31:00pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

It’s interesting to contrast the left’s reaction to Christopher Dorner to the right’s reaction to Scott Roeder and the murder of Dr. George Tiller.

If you search for them, you can find leftists who think Dorner is some kind of hero, but they are absolutely, definitely not mainstream. By far the majority of leftist criticism has been pointed at the police for their heavy-handed treatment of the case. I’ve seen almost no articles in mainstream left publications that lionize Dorner, and on Twitter the vast majority of left-wing commentary has not done this either. Quite the reverse.

But with Scott Roeder something very, very different happened. The right wing commentariat online erupted with open support and admiration for Roeder. He was lauded as a hero. It was beyond disgusting, and it was at every single right wing blog and news site; the owners of those blogs said nothing to discourage it, not a word.

That’s how it is.

This.

Again, it harkens back to the fact that the Roder worshipers aren’t told to get the fuck out of the conversation in Republican/conservative circles. They’re welcomed and given positions of power.

The Dems have problems, but letting crazy people run the party isn’t one of them. If you honestly believe both parties are the same, you really need to evaluate your critical reasoning skills.

58 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 12:32:56pm

The Tea Party, the Randians, the radical Pro-Life, the Dominionists and evangelical extreme have taken over the political right making even moderate conservatives look like wingnuts. Normally I’d say it was a case of the guilty by association fallacy, but they don’t seem to be making any effort to publicly distance themselves from the lunatics.

59 Mattand  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 12:38:41pm

re: #19 Charles Johnson

The right wing audience never gets tired of the old “reverse racism” bullshit. It stokes their persecution fantasies.

I’ve been watching that one ever since I was a kid. It usually manifested itself as “It’s NOT FAIR that those people can use that word, and I can’t!”

The idiocy of it is that a group of white people feel their lives have been ruined because they can’t go around freely using racial epithets.

60 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 12:46:12pm

re: #58 b_sharp

There’s a ‘pro’ there that should be an ‘anti’.

61 Eclectic Cyborg (formerly dragonfire1981)  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 12:46:13pm

OT, but I just went back and rewatched the thriller “Arlington Road” on Amazon instant watch.

Awesome psychological thriller with a terrorism hook. Really did a good job of nailing the issue in the pre 9/11 days. The news footage at the end of the film after the attack is spot on. Made me remember all kinds of real life reports from London, Bali and Israel.

Also, probably one of the best endings to a film there’s ever been. If you haven’t checked out it do yourself a favor and watch it. Great performances by Jeff Bridges and Tim Robbins.

62 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 12:55:26pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

The response on the right wing from actual bloggers to Roeder was more tortured than that, really. Mostly is was condemning him as a murderer, and then saying Tiller murdered even more. They’re happy throwing Roeder to the wolves but they’re unwilling to back down from the position that abortion is murder— which, if they honestly held it, would make Roeder at least a tragic hero, even if his murder was bad for the cause’

[Link: patterico.com…]

But I’m torn, as I always have been about abortion. I’m not an absolutist. I’m not sure I consider what he did murder, the same as if Tiller had been an ongoing mass murderer of grown humans. I think if such a mass murderer existed, and the law were powerless to stop them, people would not be condemning the murder of the murderer — just as most of you would not condemn the murder of Osama bin Laden.

[Link: hotair.com…]

I agree with Ed. This incident leaves me very confused, on the one hand murder is wrong, on the other, Dr. Tiller committed many many murders (for an extreme profit) before his death. I had hoped that he would have been convicted and be spending the rest of his days in jail. I pray constantly for the souls of all abortionists, and for the unborn, and for the women who choose to murder their own babies, I also pray for the employees of abortionists, and for the brave ones who stand up in front of the murder factories for life. It is time to out law late term abortions. Where ever you stand on the issue of abortion, the late term abortion is the most vile thing of all. It involves killing an infant in the birth canal.. there is nothing more disgusting. I hope that the Tiller killer is brought to justice in the courts and that the jury is wise.

…

quite…they hope to defang what they see as the deadliest viper….

allow me to be clear, I am aghst the man was shot as it is a strategically dumb move but I refuse to cauterwaul for his passing. He deployed death on a daily workaday basis he should not be shocked it came calling….

Punish the guilty and we must endure the damage the shooter has done the movement….

not that the leftoids ever have to suffer damage to theirs.

…

There is not excuse for this act and I hope that the perpetrator is captured and appropriately punished for his crimes. We live in a nation of laws and this kind of thing cannot be tolerated.

That said, let us not forget in our rush to keep from being labeled Right Wing Abortionist Killer Apologists (which we will be labeled anyway) that this man made a good living committing the most heinous of crimes; killing fully formed babies. Not making or arguing for policies to allow the killing, but actually hands-on skull-crushing, baby dissecting killing.

He profited from his life of violence and now has died (presumably) because of it. I hope that, by the grace of God, he’s not now burning for his crimes, but I hope that for everyone else too.

I think in this we see one of the fundamental differences that’s a result of the anti-science, anti-intellectual aspect of the ‘conservative’ worldview these days. The idea that Tiller was a blood-soaked murderer, that most third-term abortions are for ‘convenience’, that he’s a mass killer, is a religious conviction, and an unscientific one. The idea that the LAPD has systemic racism and corruption is something borne out by history and everyone agrees that it still has a ways to go— even when you don’t add in the free-fire on random trucks.

Likewise, OWS, while it was crippled from the start by a bizarre logistical choice and an infection of anarchists and ideological non-voters, was mostly talking about real things: the growing wealth disparity in the US, etc.

63 Kragar (Antichrist )  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 12:56:32pm

Tim Tebow to speak at anti-LGBT, anti-semitic Dallas church

NFL player and former University of Florida quarterback Tim Tebow is set to appear as a featured speaker at First Baptist Church of Dallas, home to anti-LGBT, antisemitic Pastor Robert Jeffress, who once called President Barack Obama a servant of “the Antichrist.” According to the Daily Mail, Tebow is slated to appear before the church’s 11,000 congregants on April 28.

64 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 12:56:39pm

re: #61 dragonfire1981

I thought it was really well-acted and gripping but when you analyze the plot it falls to pieces; way too many coincidences and Bridges has to do the right things at the right time in order for the convoluted plan to work.

65 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 1:00:51pm

re: #60 wrenchwench

There’s a ‘pro’ there that should be an ‘anti’.

Thank-Uwe.

66 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 1:02:55pm

re: #65 b_sharp

Thank-Uwe.

Know problem.

67 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 1:08:09pm

re: #66 wrenchwench

Know problem.

I sometimes kneed help.

68 freetoken  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 1:08:49pm

Pope Will Have Security, Immunity by Remaining in Vatican

Pope Benedict’s decision to live in the Vatican after he resigns will provide him with security and privacy. It will also offer legal protection from any attempt to prosecute him in connection with sexual abuse cases around the world, Church sources and legal experts say.

[…]

How… convenient.

69 freetoken  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 1:15:22pm

It’s time for the annual AAAS meeting, so there is plenty of press on science topics. Your local creationist will not approve:


Human Evolution: Gain Came with Pain

Humans are the most successful primates on the planet, but our bodies wouldn’t win many awards for good design. That was the consensus of a panel of anthropologists who described in often-painful (and sometimes personal) detail just how poor a job evolution has done sculpting the human form here Friday at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (which publishes ScienceNOW). Using props and examples from the fossil record, the scientists showed how the very adaptations that have made humans so successful—such as upright walking and our big, complex brains—have been the result of constant remodeling of an ancient ape body plan that was originally used for life in the trees. “This anatomy isn’t what you’d design from scratch,” says anthropologist Jeremy DeSilva of Boston University. “Evolution works with duct tape and paper clips.”

[…]

The point of citing all these problems? Evolution doesn’t “design” anything, says anthropologist Matt Cartmill of Boston University, a discussant on the panel. It works slowly on the genes and traits it has at hand, to jerry-rig animals’ and humans body plans to changing habitats and demands. “Evolution doesn’t act to yield perfection,” he says. “It acts to yield function.”

See: [Link: aaas.confex.com…]

70 Kragar (Antichrist )  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 1:19:24pm

re: #69 freetoken

It’s time for the annual AAAS meeting, so there is plenty of press on science topics. Your local creationist will not approve:

Human Evolution: Gain Came with Pain

See: [Link: aaas.confex.com…]

Someone show this man a banana!
///

71 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 1:23:51pm

re: #70 Kragar (Antichrist )

Someone show this man a banana!
///

Image: raycomfort-godsbanana.jpg

72 Gus  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 1:24:13pm

☮K, sorry about all that. I’m dealing with a lot of bullshit in life and part of dealing with said bullshit appears to be a continuation of me not dealing with things. Was a cold week and the only time I finally warmed up was by imbibing more than usual. Still working on that buzz which is finally started going away about 30 minutes ago. Nice day outside but going to the kitchen is still a pain in the rear end. Also, Charles, I never once thought that you sympathized with Dorner. Killgore, maybe you should give it a rest sometimes. I don’t want to see things escalate to the point where you get bounced. I can see the same thing happening to me too but most importantly I don’t want to see that happen to you.

73 Kragar (Antichrist )  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 1:26:18pm

re: #71 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Image: raycomfort-godsbanana.jpg

Image: Crocoduck.jpg

74 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 1:27:07pm

re: #73 Kragar (Antichrist )

Image: Crocoduck.jpg

Some of those pixels look wrong to me.

75 Interesting Times  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 1:30:35pm

re: #71 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Image: raycomfort-godsbanana.jpg

I can’t for the life of me understand why this whole banana thing is meant to serve as an anti-evolution argument when Image: chimp-360x527.jpg

76 Gus  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 1:34:51pm

re: #73 Kragar (Antichrist )

Image: Crocoduck.jpg

Image: Greenwald-Duck.jpg

77 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 1:36:32pm

re: #76 Gus

Image: Greenwald-Duck.jpg

Kill it with fire.

78 Gus  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 1:37:10pm

re: #77 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Kill it with fire.

I saw it while paddling my douche canoe.

79 Gus  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 1:49:43pm

I done killed the thread. Time to bring in the tanks!

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▂▄▅█████████▅▄▃▂
I███████████████████].
◥⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙◤…

80 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 1:54:08pm

re: #79 Gus

I done killed the thread. Time to bring in the tanks!

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▂▄▅█████████▅▄▃▂
I███████████████████].
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Cool tank.

81 Gus  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 1:57:14pm

re: #80 b_sharp

Cool tank.

Got it here. [Link: fsymbols.com…] under weapons.

82 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 1:57:27pm

re: #72 Gus

No worries - thanks for the words.

83 Gus  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 2:01:39pm

re: #82 Charles Johnson

No worries - thanks for the words.

You’re welcome and thanks.

84 Gus  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 2:09:06pm

Image: Lawhawks_Snow_Picture_Paintified.jpg

85 engineer cat  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 2:10:49pm

“Evolution doesn’t act to yield perfection,” he says. “It acts to yield function.”

in engineering, we would call this ‘backing into design’

(unfortunately, some people who like to think of themselves as on the cutting edge of development methodologies have been promoting exactly this lately)

backing into design can, in a pinch, yield quick benefits without disturbing other aspects of the mechanism, but at the cost of unintended consequences and disastrous inefficiencies - in our case, spines that are not optimally adapted to walking upright, and a digestive system that is better adapted to fruits and nuts than an omnivorous diet

86 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 2:12:05pm

I like this one.

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87 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 2:36:59pm

re: #84 Gus

Image: Lawhawks_Snow_Picture_Paintified.jpg

Nice!


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