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Jim Hoft Doesn’t Understand Parody, Says Al Gore Is “Pushing Sharia Law”

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Do you think Jim Hoft, renowned as the Dumbest Man on the Internet, is actually so incredibly dense that he didn’t realize the video he posted here is a lame right wing parody with badly overdubbed voices?

Or did he post it without even watching it? There’s no indication in the incoherent drivel he wrote that he understood this isn’t a real interview with Al Gore.

Either way, it’s another hilarious classic in Dim Jim Hoft’s Compendium of Derpitude, filed under “Stupid Bigotry:”

Oh, Good Grief… Al Gore Explains Advantages of Sharia Law to Andrea Mitchell (Video) | the Gateway Pundit

First he sells his crappy TV channel to the the Mideast oil sheiks.
Now he pushing Sharia Law.
Via Sooper Mexican:

He forgot to tell her she’d be worth less than a man in his perfect Sharia society.

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504 comments

1 Kragar (Antichrist )  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 4:53:19pm

Everyone here is dumber for having seen that.

2 TedStriker  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 4:54:41pm

Hoft, I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul.

3 Targetpractice  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 4:54:50pm

re: #1 Kragar (Antichrist )

Everyone here is dumber for having seen that.

4 Kronocide  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:05:47pm

Leave it to Hoft’s Minions to make the Money Quote:
Whiskeytangofoxtrot • an hour ago
This man, to me, is only one of our modern day examples of how depraved, morally bankrupt, and spiritually vacuous our society seem to have become.

5 Gus  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:10:33pm

I find the whole Gore, Al-Jazeera, Qatar, oil connection rather hilarious but what in the heck does it have to do with Sharia or Sharia law?

6 Kronocide  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:11:34pm

re: #5 Gus

I find the whole Gore, Al-Jazeera, Qatar, oil connection rather hilarious but what in the heck does it have to do with Sharia or Sharia law?

Brown people + oil = Sharia Law.

7 Gus  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:13:55pm

re: #6 Kronocide

Brown people + oil = Sharia Law.

It’s silly. In that case any American business person dealing with Arab oil states is “pushing Sharia law!!” I can think of plenty of Republicans that would fit under that crazy definition.

8 Kronocide  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:15:11pm

It says right below the video at SooperMexican’s site:
Parody of an interview of Al Gore by Andrea Mitchell where they discuss his controversial sale of Current-TV to Al-Jazeera.

He really didn’t watch the video or even read about it, just read the headline and reposted. The Echo Chamber In Effect.

9 wrenchwench  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:15:20pm

Two defenses in the comments.

FAKE BUT ACCURATE!!!

and

Jim wasn’t fooled, he just posted it without watching it first.

…like that’s better.

10 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:16:36pm

Coming to theaters this summer…

Todd Akin…

Jim Hoft…

In the movie that will lower your IQ to places you never thought it would go…

Dumb and Dumber 2: Dumbest ever

It’s the most “dumb” you’ll have at the movies all year!

11 Gus  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:18:23pm

Here’s the actual segment.

12 Kragar (Antichrist )  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:22:23pm

re: #9 wrenchwench

Jim wasn’t fooled, he just posted it without watching it first.

…like that’s better.

Unintentional rick rollings FTW.

13 Gus  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:23:19pm

Of course the dumb thinking process here is something akin to “Al Gore sold Current TV to Al Jazeera in order for them to set a foot hold on American culture and push Sharia law on the USA for the eventual Muslim takeover of the United States of America, under God, and see I told you Al Gore was a secret Muslim.”

14 Kragar (Antichrist )  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:26:20pm

Using my official degree from the Jim Hoft School of internet investigative journalism, I see Sarah Palin has made quite the career in the porno movie industry.

15 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:27:39pm

TGDN is all excited about SCOTUS hearing Orly Taitz. Their tears after the smackdown will be SOOO delicious.

16 Kronocide  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:27:54pm

That didn’t take long:

rbosque • 5 hours ago

Well if any woman deserves to be mutilated or stoned to death for stupidity, it would be Andrea.

17 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:29:16pm

His sycophants don’t recognize that Hoft putting this vid up without watching it first means everything he puts up needs to be questioned. They’re as stupid as he is.

18 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:29:46pm

re: #15 Vicious Babushka

TGDN is all excited about SCOTUS hearing Orly Taitz. Their tears after the smackdown will be SOOO delicious.

When do we find out?

19 Skip Intro  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:30:01pm

So even after some people on DERPS’s site announce that the video is bogus, the rest of the clowns just keep digging the hole deeper. It’s almost like his site is a subsidiary of Free Republic.

20 Skip Intro  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:30:25pm

re: #18 b_sharp

When do we find out?

Tuesday.

21 SpaceJesus  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:30:38pm

even more derp for the derp god!

22 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:32:09pm

re: #20 Skip Intro

Tuesday.

Is Monday a holiday down there?

23 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:33:12pm

re: #22 b_sharp

Is Monday a holiday down there?

President’s Day.

24 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:35:51pm

re: #8 Kronocide

It says right below the video at SooperMexican’s site:
Parody of an interview of Al Gore by Andrea Mitchell where they discuss his controversial sale of Current-TV to Al-Jazeera.

He really didn’t watch the video or even read about it, just read the headline and reposted. The Echo Chamber In Effect.

Exactly. Even on LGF that can have an effect, as witness this Page.

25 stabby  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:36:30pm

This is the best thing ever

26 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:37:46pm

re: #23 Varek Raith

President’s Day.

Family Day up here.

Thankfully we don’t have a PM’s Day.

27 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:38:08pm

re: #24 Dark_Falcon

Thing is, it’s a lot more believable that Lamar Smith would doubt the existence of meteors than Al Gore “pushing Shariah law.”

28 stabby  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:38:36pm

re: #14 Kragar (Antichrist )

Using my official degree from the Jim Hoft School of internet investigative journalism, I see Sarah Palin has made quite the career in the porno movie industry.

29 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:38:55pm

re: #15 Vicious Babushka

TGDN is all excited about SCOTUS hearing Orly Taitz. Their tears after the smackdown will be SOOO delicious.

I say that SCOTUS should turn Justice Scalia loose on her. Tell him to tear into what ever DERP! she submitted with as much venom and sarcasm as he can muster. Orly Taitz needs to be mocked brutally in order to make clear that she’s a fool,

30 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:39:04pm

NOW HE PUSHING SHARIAH LAW GOOD GRIEF…

IT BEGINS…

31 Kronocide  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:39:49pm

re: #24 Dark_Falcon

Exactly. Even on LGF that can have an effect, as witness this Page.

From some Lizard named ‘Charles Johnson’ in the first reply:

Er, it’s Andy Borowitz - a parody.

Don’t feel too bad though. It wouldn’t have surprised me if it were true.

32 stabby  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:40:21pm

YOu should open that last one, God Ricky Gervais is funny

33 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:40:49pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson

Thing is, it’s a lot more believable that Lamar Smith would doubt the existence of meteors than Al Gore “pushing Shariah law.”

Even allowing that, my point still stands. Even just scanning the entire page would have revealed it to be a parody. Being sloppy makes a person look foolish.

34 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:42:13pm

How many times has Jim Hoft used “IT BEGINS…” as a title?

‘It Begins’ site:thegatewaypundit.com - Google Search

35 A Mom Anon  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:43:59pm

re: #33 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, but we’re far brighter than the geniuses over at Derpy’s House of Derp and Undercooked Poultry. Seeing as how no one in the comments thought that shit was real.

36 blueraven  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:44:59pm

re: #33 Dark_Falcon

Even allowing that, my point still stands. Even just scanning the entire page would have revealed it to be a parody. Being sloppy makes a person look foolish.

Not really. Sometimes a parody is difficult to detect. The one Hoft posted is most assuredly not one of those. And at LGF you cant get away with it. The posters here will call you out quickly, and the one who posted will apologize and/or correct. Something Hoft never does.

There is no comparison.

37 Kronocide  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:46:08pm

re: #36 blueraven

There is no comparison.

Balance Fairy got Yao Ming’ed!

38 Interesting Times  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:46:20pm

re: #30 Charles Johnson

On another note, remember how, if 100-300 teabaggers show up at a rally, it gets OMG OBAMA IZ HATED BY EVERYONE!!111! coverage in the corporate media? Meanwhile, little more than *crickets* in response to this:

Stunning: 40,000+ Rally in DC for Forward on Climate

What a day! Over 40,000 people poured into the streets of Washington, DC today to push President Obama to take our nation “Forward on Climate” and say no to the Keystone XL pipeline.

Our team here at 350.org had expected a crowd, but this was MASSIVE. Volunteers from around the country organized 130 buses to get people to the rally and it showed: there were people of all ages from Florida to Wisconsin to California here today.

Fox News et al. would be creaming themselves if 1/4 that many showed up at an anti-Obama rally (after ridiculously inflating crowd estimates and splicing unrelated footage together to make it seem much larger than it actually was, of course)

39 jaunte  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:47:47pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

How many times has Jim Hoft used “IT BEGINS…” as a title?

‘It Begins’ site:thegatewaypundit.com - Google Search

Even some of his readers are pushing back.
From a 2010 War on Santa outrage:
Image: itcontinues.jpg

40 dragonath  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:49:32pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

It Begins… White House Turkey Is Pardoned, Then Euthanized

It’s an Obama world…
Even turkeys fear the Obama death panels.

*thunk* *thunk* *thunk*

41 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:51:33pm

In Hoft’s ‘It Begins’, what is ‘It’?

42 Kronocide  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:52:31pm

Oh boy, spending some quality time on Ray Comfort’s Facebook page.

43 blueraven  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:52:39pm

re: #41 b_sharp

In Hoft’s ‘It Begins’, what is ‘It’?

Derp

44 Gus  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:52:54pm

re: #30 Charles Johnson

NOW HE PUSHING SHARIAH LAW GOOD GRIEF…

IT BEGINS…

Here’s where the major outrage began: Gore, Current silent as cleric affirms death penalty for leaving Islam on Al-Jazeera The “translated” quote is:

“Surah Al-Ma’idah 5:33 says: ‘The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His apostle is that they should be murdered or crucified,’” Qaradawi quoted on his show.

Searching the quote only results in one Daily Caller hit.

Couple of things. That’s not Sharia, but Surah Al-Ma’idah 5:33 from the Quran. Others have mentioned that this is once again subject to translation, and interpretation as with most religious texts. Yusuf al-Qaradawi however remains a rather controversial figure that is given a voice by Al Jazeera.

Excerpts from Wiki:

• Yusuf al-Qaradawi (Arabic: يوسف القرضاوي Yūsuf al-Qaraḍāwī‎; or Yusuf al-Qardawi; born 9 September 1926) is an Egyptian Islamic theologian. He is best known for his programme, al-Sharīʿa wa al-Ḥayāh (“Shariah and Life”), broadcast on Al Jazeera, which has an estimated audience of 60 million worldwide.

• In 2004, 2,500 Muslim academics from Saudi Arabia, Iraq and from the Palestinian territories condemned Qaradawi, and accused him of giving “Islam a bad name.”

Throughout history, Allah has imposed upon the Jews people who would punish them for their corruption…The last punishment was carried out by [Adolf] Hitler. By means of all the things he did to them – even though they exaggerated this issue – he managed to put them in their place. This was divine punishment for them…Allah Willing, the next time will be at the hand of the believers. — Yusuf al-Qaradawi

45 Kragar (Antichrist )  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:53:12pm

re: #41 b_sharp

In Hoft’s ‘It Begins’, what is ‘It’?

His descent into paranoid schizophrenia.

46 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:53:24pm

re: #42 Kronocide

Oh boy, spending some quality time on Ray Comfort’s Facebook page.

What, are you nuts?

47 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:53:36pm

re: #41 b_sharp

I don’t know, but it sure does begin a lot. Page after page of beginning. Never seems to get past the beginning though. Must be frustrating for it.

48 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:55:02pm
49 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:55:38pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

How many times has Jim Hoft used “IT BEGINS…” as a title?

‘It Begins’ site:thegatewaypundit.com - Google Search

“What” Begins?

Batman?
The Beguine? (what the heck is “The Beguine” anyway?)
Teh Derp? (that never ended)

50 Interesting Times  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:55:44pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

If you look real close, near the top-right corner, you can see the man Glenn Beck talks to.

51 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:57:11pm

re: #49 Vicious Babushka

“What” Begins?

Batman?
The Beguine? (what the heck is “The Beguine” anyway?)
Teh Derp? (that never ended)

The Stupid. It begins to burn.

52 TedStriker  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:57:30pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

How many times has Jim Hoft used “IT BEGINS…” as a title?

‘It Begins’ site:thegatewaypundit.com - Google Search

re: #47 Charles Johnson

I don’t know, but it sure does begin a lot. Page after page of beginning. Never seems to get past the beginning though. Must be frustrating for it.

It’s his Bulwer-Lytton-esque catchphrase.

53 Kronocide  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:57:58pm

re: #46 b_sharp

What, are you nuts?

If there are still nuts, what did nuts come from?

54 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:58:21pm

Never mind, I Googled it.

“Beguine” is a long, totally lame boring type of musical number that was Cole Porter’s biggest FAIL.

55 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:58:46pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

Clearly a piece of cheese.

56 Kragar (Antichrist )  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:58:48pm

re: #49 Vicious Babushka

“What” Begins?

Batman?
The Beguine? (what the heck is “The Beguine” anyway?)
Teh Derp? (that never ended)

Their are neither beginnings nor endings to the turning of the Wheel of Time, but its was a beginning.

57 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 5:59:38pm

When last we saw Rick on The Walking Dead, he was having a serious freak-out, seeing hallucinations of his dead wife. Can’t wait to see what happens next.

58 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:00:17pm

re: #47 Charles Johnson

I don’t know, but it sure does begin a lot. Page after page of beginning. Never seems to get past the beginning though. Must be frustrating for it.

I take it he can’t complete anything.

59 Skip Intro  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:02:00pm

re: #18 b_sharp

When do we find out?

Don’t expect anything earthshaking, like sanctions against Taitz. She’s already accused most of the SC of treason, and mentioned that they have some dodgy people clerking there, like Turks and Hispanics, who are obviously traitors. It will be entertaining to see what she calls them when they ignore her yet gain.

60 Kragar (Antichrist )  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:02:29pm

re: #58 b_sharp

I take it he can’t complete anything.

His wife’s been saying that for years.

61 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:02:45pm

I CAN’T WAIT FOR THIS WINGNUT’S SWEET, SWEET TEARS

62 chadu  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:03:02pm

Jebus Haploid Christ, sharia law ain’t gonna happen, just like Bizarro Evangelical Christian sharia happens — oh, you cherry-pick from Leviticus and Paul, right. Fucking cowards. Tired of it. Bored of it. Give me a new tapdance, please.

63 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:05:03pm

Rick’s losing it, big time.

64 Targetpractice  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:05:27pm

re: #61 Vicious Babushka

I CAN’T WAIT FOR THIS WINGNUT’S SWEET, SWEET TEARS

These the same “experts” who are supporting Sheriff Joe’s “posse” as well?

65 Kragar (Antichrist )  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:05:29pm

re: #61 Vicious Babushka

I CAN’T WAIT FOR THIS WINGNUT’S SWEET, SWEET TEARS

The butthurt released will equal 20 Russian meteors.

66 chadu  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:06:23pm

re: #61 Vicious Babushka

I hate the internets for making this a common abbreviation” “DIAF” = “Die in a fire”

67 Gus  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:06:52pm

re: #44 Gus

If anyone is interested. For further reading.

Misquoted Verse #14

5:33 The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter

The context of this verse itself will clear any negative perceptions against Islam. One cannot quote verse 5:33 without quoting verse 5:32 (prohibition of murder) and verse 5:34 (command to forgive). Let us examine the verse in its proper context:

5:32-34 …If any one slew a person - unless it be as punishment for murder or for spreading corruption in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our apostles with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land. The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter; Except for those who repent before they fall into your power: in that case, know that Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

There are several points to note here. The first is the gravity of the offense. This is punishment for WAGING WAR against the Prophet of God and spreading evil and destruction. In modern terminology this would be considered “terrorism”. This is a punishment for such a severe offense, hence the severity of the punishment. As Muhammad Asad writes on this verse:

Continues.

68 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:06:54pm

Very creepy opening to The Walking Dead tonight.

69 klys  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:08:20pm

re: #61 Vicious Babushka

How does one forge a number? A document, a painting, a check I can understand, but a number?

I know, too much logic, too few characters, etc.

70 chadu  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:09:33pm

re: #67 Gus

I’mma gonna look up this in my own Koran.

(I possess the holy books of most faiths. Fuck you. It took awhile to collect them.)

71 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:09:54pm

re: #69 klys

How does one forge a number? A document, a painting, a check I can understand, but a number?

I know, too much logic, too few characters, etc.

Stolen from a dead guy.

72 chadu  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:10:35pm

re: #69 klys

Quaballa! It has a Q in the name! THE POWER!

73 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:10:43pm

re: #70 chadu

I’mma gonna look up this in my own Koran.

(I possess the holy books of most faiths. Fuck you. It took awhile to collect them.)

In English?

74 Gus  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:10:47pm

re: #70 chadu

I’mma gonna look up this in my own Koran.

(I possess the holy books of most faiths. Fuck you. It took awhile to collect them.)

Mmm hmm.

75 Skip Intro  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:12:13pm

re: #61 Vicious Babushka

I CAN’T WAIT FOR THIS WINGNUT’S SWEET, SWEET TEARS

THEY NEVER LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE!!!!

Of course, the “evidence” is nothing but 600+ pages of pure crap Taitz has collected from the internet and shipped off, expecting the Court to collate it, verify it, and make her case for her. Since they never do that, they’re all Commie traitors, just like in Nazi Germany.

76 chadu  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:12:30pm

re: #73 b_sharp

Unfortunately, yes. I can only hold Etruscan and Atlantean in my head at one time.

77 chadu  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:14:01pm

Hm.

Guess how many versions of the Bible I have. Take a guess.

78 Kragar (Antichrist )  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:15:56pm

re: #77 chadu

Hm.

Guess how many versions of the Bible I have. Take a guess.

Everything before or after the KJV is THE DEVIL!

79 Kronocide  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:18:10pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

Very creepy opening to The Walking Dead tonight.

Did you see this? Lulz.

80 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:18:49pm

re: #76 chadu

Unfortunately, yes. I can only hold Etruscan and Atlantean in my head at one time.

How anyone can take any of these books as authoritative is beyond me, they’ve gone through so many revisions, with intentional and unintentional changes, they can’t reflect the original writings reliably.

81 chadu  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:19:24pm

re: #78 Kragar (Antichrist )

New Catholic, KJV, fucking Vulgate in Latin (yo!), and a weird book that seems to be the Torah from the early 19th century (my Hebrew is really bad).

82 Eventual Carrion  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:19:34pm

re: #13 Gus

Of course the dumb thinking process here is something akin to “Al Gore sold Current TV to Al Jazeera in order for them to set a foot hold on American culture and push Sharia law on the USA for the eventual Muslim takeover of the United States of America, under God, and see I told you Al Gore was a secret Muslim.”

Isn’t a Saudi prince a major share holder of Fox News Network? I believe they practice a pretty severe form of Sharia law do they not?

83 chadu  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:20:16pm

re: #78 Kragar (Antichrist )

I think you meant DEBBIL.

84 Gus  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:21:01pm

re: #82 Eventual Carrion

Isn’t a Saudi prince a major share holder of Fox News Network? I believe they practice a pretty severe form of Sharia law do they not?

17 percent I think.

85 chadu  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:21:24pm

re: #82 Eventual Carrion

Oh, that doesn’t count.///

86 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:22:03pm

re: #71 b_sharp

Stolen from a dead guy.

It is Obama’s original SSN. He is a 123 year old vampire!

Suck on that wingnuts.

87 chadu  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:22:33pm

Seriously, we need to deal with the Saudis. At some point.

88 chadu  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:23:12pm

re: #86 Vicious Babushka

I love you. ;)

89 Gus  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:24:35pm

re: #82 Eventual Carrion

Isn’t a Saudi prince a major share holder of Fox News Network? I believe they practice a pretty severe form of Sharia law do they not?

Make that 5 percent in 2010.

For other fun see WND:

Is Saudi prince steering News Corp. coverage?
Diana West notes Fox failed to mention Muslim Brotherhood tie in Al Gorezeera deal

Ever since Al Gore sold Current TV to Al Jazeera, the network founded and funded by the oil-rich emirate of Qatar, the former vice president has drawn continuous fire in conservative media. Fox News, the New York Post and the Wall Street Journal, for example, have all castigated Gore, a man of the left and leading avatar of “global warming,” for such hypocrisies as timing the deal to avoid lefty tax hikes and bagging $100 million in greenhouse-gas money.

These same news outlets share something else in common: They all belong to Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp. That means they also belong to Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal…

The plot thickens!

90 Kragar (Antichrist )  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:25:22pm

re: #87 chadu

Seriously, we need to deal with the Saudis. At some point.

We deal with them all the time. We’re busy selling them tanks and planes.

91 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:25:30pm

re: #81 chadu

New Catholic, KJV, fucking Vulgate in Latin (yo!), and a weird book that seems to be the Torah from the early 19th century (my Hebrew is really bad).

Can u scan a page?

92 Gus  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:25:56pm

Diana West thinks that Fox News is covering up teh Al Gore/Al Jazeera Sharia Law Push!!11ty

93 chadu  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:26:47pm

re: #91 Vicious Babushka

Lemme try later.

94 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:27:52pm

re: #92 Gus

Diana West thinks that Fox News is covering up teh Al Gore/Al Jazeera Sharia Law Push!!11ty

Which Sharia law(s) is coming?

95 chadu  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:28:10pm

re: #91 Vicious Babushka

Scanner is down, and that’s such an easy excuse. I’ll try.

96 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:29:22pm

re: #95 chadu

Scanner is down, and that’s such an easy excuse. I’ll try.

Have a camera phone?

97 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:30:45pm

re: #89 Gus

Make that 5 percent in 2010.

For other fun see WND:

Is Saudi prince steering News Corp. coverage?
Diana West notes Fox failed to mention Muslim Brotherhood tie in Al Gorezeera deal

The plot thickens!

It’s kind of fun to watch Weird Nut Daily’s insanity, but it does leave one feeling dirty, since its like paying admission to Bedlam to mock the mentally ill.

98 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:31:02pm

Sad news.

99 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:33:32pm
100 stabby  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:35:49pm

re: #99 Vicious Babushka

Black, educated, rational, sane

101 Gus  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:36:44pm

re: #94 b_sharp

Which Sharia law(s) is coming?

Flip a coin! I do find the words of Yusuf al-Qaradawi to be rather troubling and the fact that AJ broadcasts it to 60 million around the world. We have our very own controversial clerics of course and perhaps many of those controversial statement go in one ear and out the other? Much like many people who attend church with a very homophobic pastor yet are they themselves pro-LGBT. Not making a direct comparison here since everything come in a spectrum or scale. There’s also context of quotes and the often garbled translation which comes from the Middle East. Anyway, read #44 to see what I’m talking about.

102 Kragar (Antichrist )  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:36:56pm

re: #100 stabby

Black, educated, rational, sane

Its easier just to say “teh devil”.
/

103 blueraven  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:38:07pm

re: #89 Gus

Make that 5 percent in 2010.

For other fun see WND:

Is Saudi prince steering News Corp. coverage?
Diana West notes Fox failed to mention Muslim Brotherhood tie in Al Gorezeera deal

The plot thickens!

Also

As the ink still dries on the Current TV-Al Jazeera deal, Fox News has unsurprisingly sounded the alarm on Al Gore’s “anti-American” nature. However, as Jon Stewart pointed out on last night’s Daily Show, somehow they’ve overlooked boss Rupert Murdoch’s twenty-percent stake in Rotana, an Arab station co-owned by Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal and accountable for airing Valley of the Wolves, a film in which American soldiers massacre Iraqi civilians and sell their organs to Jews. “Rupert Murdoch profiting from the airing of that type of anti-American propaganda?” says Stewart. Say it ain’t so. Stewart did concede that “Al Jazeera’s Arabic channel has broadcast some very hateful stuff,” and that it’s a subsidiary — along with Al Jazeera English, the news station that will be airing in Current’s place — of the Qatar-based buyer, the Al Jazeera Media Network.

Watch video at link.

[Link: nymag.com…]

104 Gus  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:40:57pm

re: #103 blueraven

Also

Watch video at link.

[Link: nymag.com…]

There you go.

105 freetoken  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:41:02pm
How dumb can he get?

That’s probably best left as an unexplored option.

106 Targetpractice  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:45:23pm
107 Gus  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:46:50pm

I must say this obsession with Teh Juice in the Arab world is mind boggling sometimes. Picture a map of the Arab world. Then picture the tiny portion that is Israel in that mass of land.

108 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:50:21pm

re: #107 Gus

I must say this obsession with Teh Juice in the Arab world is mind boggling sometimes. Picture a map of the Arab world. Then picture the tiny portion that is Israel in that mass of land.

You mean like this?

109 jhncsy  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:52:11pm
He forgot to tell her she’d be worth less than a man in his perfect Sharia society

He says that as if his party didn’t just ignore the Violence against Women Act.

110 Gus  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:52:59pm

re: #108 Vicious Babushka

You mean like this?

Thanks. Was trying to make one in PS but was having problems. Then include Iran and most of Pakistan in those manufactured grievances. All the while they concern troll about Palestine with doing very little for them. It’s such a political prop for the Arab and pan-Arab politicians.

111 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:53:48pm

DUH! They are a “flag of convenience” carrier.

112 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:55:20pm

re: #110 Gus

Thanks. Was trying to make one in PS but was having problems. Then include Iran and most of Pakistan in those manufactured grievances. All the while they concern troll about Palestine with doing very little for them. It’s such a political prop for the Arab and pan-Arab politicians.

That map shows the Arab nations. Iran, Pakistan, Indonesia, various “stans” former Soviet republics are Muslim nations but not Arab.

113 Kragar (Antichrist )  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:55:51pm
114 TedStriker  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:57:01pm

re: #110 Gus

Apparently I did a karate chop on the thread. In other news. I’m hot.

Thanks. Was trying to make one in PS but was having problems. Then include Iran and most of Pakistan in those manufactured grievances. All the while they concern troll about Palestine with doing very little for them. It’s such a political prop for the Arab and pan-Arab politicians.

It’s easier to lead a disaffected populace around by the nose when you keep them hopped up all of the time on fear and hatred of the “other”.

This is one tactic that despotic Arab regimes and the TPGOP can fully agree on.

115 Killgore Trout  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:58:38pm

re: #24 Dark_Falcon

Exactly. Even on LGF that can have an effect, as witness this Page.

It Can’t Happen Here

116 Targetpractice  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 6:59:04pm

re: #111 Vicious Babushka

DUH! They are a “flag of convenience” carrier.

You read stories like this, and then you hear conservatives scream that America has a “spending problem.” Indeed, it’s called these companies are spending a shitload of money to avoid paying a dime’s worth of taxes.

117 Gus  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:00:09pm

re: #114 TedStriker

It’s easier to lead a disaffected populace around by the nose when you keep them hopped up all of the time of hatred of the “other”.

This is a one tactic that despotic Arab regimes and the TPGOP can fully agree on.

Exactly. It’s the same fear that people use against Muslims. The Muslims are taking over the world! The Jews are taking over the world! No.

118 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:02:52pm

re: #115 Killgore Trout

It Can’t Happen Here

[Embedded content]

It CAN happen here, but here when it happens we expose the error before the DERP! can spread.

119 TedStriker  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:04:08pm

re: #116 Targetpractice

You read stories like this, and then you hear conservatives scream that America has a “spending problem.” Indeed, it’s called these companies are spending a shitload of money to avoid paying a dime’s worth of taxes.

True.

Carnival is incorporated in Bermuda, has its corporate offices in Miami, and flags most of its vessels in the Bahamas.

Tell me that isn’t convoluted…

120 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:05:00pm

WTF does this word salad even mean?

121 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:05:32pm

re: #119 TedStriker

True.

Carnival is incorporated in Bermuda, has its corporate offices in Miami, and flags most of its vessels in the Bahamas.

Tell me that isn’t convoluted…

It’s the Bermuda Triangle!1!

122 Targetpractice  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:06:27pm

re: #120 Vicious Babushka

WTF does this word salad even mean?

Terminal Rand-ian poisoning.

123 Gus  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:07:36pm

re: #120 Vicious Babushka

WTF does this word salad even mean?

Kind of ironic considering it alludes to employee owned companies.

124 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:07:45pm

WALMART!1!

125 Gus  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:10:18pm

re: #124 Vicious Babushka

WALMART!1!

126 Killgore Trout  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:10:22pm

re: #119 TedStriker

True.

Carnival is incorporated in Bermuda, has its corporate offices in Miami, and flags most of its vessels in the Bahamas.

Tell me that isn’t convoluted…

You know who else sheltered finances in the Caribbean?

127 Targetpractice  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:10:47pm

re: #124 Vicious Babushka

WALMART!1!

If the cost of providing employees health care or paying not to is enough to kill your business, then you’re probably not a very good CEO.

128 Gus  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:10:49pm

re: #126 Killgore Trout

You know who else sheltered finances in the Caribbean?

Machinists Union?

129 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:11:04pm

re: #120 Vicious Babushka

WTF does this word salad even mean?

Employees should be satisfied with $2.15/hr so their bosses can make $millions/year.

130 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:11:35pm

re: #126 Killgore Trout

You know who else sheltered finances in the Caribbean?

Mitt Romney?

131 Killgore Trout  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:11:43pm

re: #128 Gus

Machinists Union?

I was thinking Mitt but yeah…I guess probably them too.

132 Gus  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:12:07pm

This stuff is pretty common. It’s all about money. Cayman Islands. Off shore tax shelters. It’s not ideology it’s pure old fashioned money.

133 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:12:45pm

re: #126 Killgore Trout

You know who else sheltered finances in the Caribbean?

JACK SPARROW!

134 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:13:12pm

re: #120 Vicious Babushka

WTF does this word salad even mean?

I believe it translates as:

OMG!!1 The president is a black man from Chicago!!!11

135 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:13:32pm

re: #129 b_sharp

Employees should be satisfied with $2.15/hr so their bosses can make $millions/year.

Employees should be happy & grateful for a bowl of rice & gruel!

136 Killgore Trout  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:16:24pm

re: #133 Vicious Babushka

JACK SPARROW!

…and Johny Depp.
/It’s a twofer

137 chadu  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:17:18pm

re: #96 Vicious Babushka

Good idea!

138 Gus  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:19:35pm

re: #129 b_sharp

Employees should be satisfied with $2.15/hr so their bosses can make $millions/year.

That’s probably a little more than what Apple pays for their FoxxCon employees in China.

//

139 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:21:28pm

re: #138 Gus

That’s probably a little more than what Apple pays for their FoxxCon employees in China.

//

ouch

140 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:22:20pm

re: #138 Gus

That’s probably a little more than what Apple pays for their FoxxCon employees in China.

//

Yup.

141 Gus  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:23:40pm

re: #139 sattv4u2

ouch

re: #140 b_sharp

Yup.

There’s irony in there somehow. Well, at least I see irony in it.

142 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:23:55pm

You know it drives me nuts because, in an ideally run corporation (I know, har har har but…), EVERYONE gains wealth from the enterprise. There’s no reason in a well run company that the CEO can’t still make millions and the rest of the employees can at least earn a living wage and basic health benefits.

It’s such simple logic: You look after your people and they’ll look after you.

143 freetoken  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:24:35pm

FWIW, Hon Hai makes equipment for many of the major brand companies around the world. E.g., if you are using a Kindle that’s also made by those workers.

If you use a computer of some sort, at one time or another you’ll be using a Foxconn product.

144 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:24:44pm

re: #138 Gus

That’s probably a little more than what Apple pays for their FoxxCon employees in China.

//

Aren’t those Foxxcon’s employees, not Apple’s?

145 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:25:01pm

re: #141 Gus

re: #140 b_sharp

There’s irony in there somehow. Well, at least I see irony in it.

It was implied !!

;)

146 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:26:33pm

re: #144 Dark_Falcon

Aren’t those Foxxcon’s employees, not Apple’s?

So do you suggest Apple should be absolved of responsibility for worker conditions?

147 Gus  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:28:04pm

re: #144 Dark_Falcon

Aren’t those Foxxcon’s employees, not Apple’s?

Apple contracts Foxxcon to make those products in order to increase their profits and avoid paying American wages. This allows Apple to be second to Exxon in the most profitable corporation. So they are by default Apple employees since if they used domestic labor they would likely contract to a minimum wage outfit. In the old days they wouldn’t contract the work out.

148 Professor Chaos  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:28:11pm

This dipshit needs a blanket headline to cover everything he has and will ever say for all time:

Jim Hoft Doesn’t Understand X*

*Where X is the set of all things beyond the comprehension of your average three year old.

149 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:29:03pm

re: #144 Dark_Falcon

Aren’t those Foxxcon’s employees, not Apple’s?

So if Arrow shirts are made by XYZ corp in ZYX country that employs kids under 12 working for pennies a day, and Arrow knows about it, Arrow is off the hook??

150 freetoken  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:29:18pm

Making the internet rounds is this video from last week, which lives up to its billing “world’s cutest frog”:

151 Gus  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:29:29pm

re: #143 freetoken

FWIW, Hon Hai makes equipment for many of the major brand companies around the world. E.g., if you are using a Kindle that’s also made by those workers.

If you use a computer of some sort, at one time or another you’ll be using a Foxconn product.

Yep. ASUS is one. Nice MOBOS.

152 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:29:52pm
153 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:30:35pm

re: #148 Girth

This dipshit needs a blanket headline to cover everything he has and will ever say for all time:

Oh come on now, that’s demeaning to 3 year olds!

154 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:31:29pm

re: #146 b_sharp

So do you suggest Apple should be absolved of responsibility for worker conditions?

No, I’m just suggesting a change in the language used.

155 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:31:52pm

re: #149 sattv4u2

So if Arrow shirts are made by XYZ corp in ZYX country that employs kids under 12 working for pennies a day, and Arrow knows about it, Arrow is off the hook??

As far as I know its dependent on the labor laws of the country where the manufacturing is being done. If no laws are being broken, it’s perfectly ok to slave drive people 16 hours/day for 0.10/hour.

156 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:31:53pm

At one time manufacturers needed a source of customers with enough expendable income to afford to buy products. Now, with a global market, they have several billion customers to buy their products so employee income isn’t as important.

157 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:33:17pm

re: #155 dragonfire1981

As far as I know its dependent on the labor laws of the country where the manufacturing is being done. If no laws are being broken, it’s perfectly ok to slave drive people 16 hours/day for 0.10/hour.

From what I understand, paying too much more than the going wage in some countries leads to a different set of issues.

158 Killgore Trout  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:34:33pm

re: #150 freetoken

Making the internet rounds is this video from last week, which lives up to its billing “world’s cutest frog”:

[Embedded content]

My frogs are waking up from the winter. High on my priority list this week is getting their breeding area ready for fucking.

159 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:35:50pm

re: #158 Killgore Trout

My frogs are waking up from the winter. High on my priority list this week is getting their breeding area ready for fucking.

You setting up tiny speakers so you can play Barry White?

160 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:35:57pm

re: #157 FemNaziBitch

From what I understand, paying too much more than the going wage in some countries leads to a different set of issues.

Such as?

161 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:37:20pm

re: #155 dragonfire1981

As far as I know its dependent on the labor laws of the country where the manufacturing is being done. If no laws are being broken, it’s perfectly ok to slave drive people 16 hours/day for 0.10/hour.

Not the question. Sorry, but when I said ‘off the hook” I didn’t mean a LEGAL one, but a moral one. Arrow comes across as a clean cut all American company. Can’t be that while your supplier is abusing children, legal or not

((and BTW ,,, it’s a total hypothetical scenario. I have no clue as to where/ how Arrow has their shirts made))

162 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:37:27pm

re: #160 b_sharp

Such as?

hmm, I”m not sure of the words involved, but “some people” will demand bribes to get those jobs …—no?

163 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:37:50pm

re: #157 FemNaziBitch

From what I understand, paying too much more than the going wage in some countries leads to a different set of issues.

Yes, that can happen, because the competition for the very high paying jobs can get ugly. And paying those wages may also cause local government officals to ‘ask’ a company to hire ‘some friends of friends’, as corrupt regimes often maintain tight control over how has access to the best jobs.

164 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:37:59pm

re: #158 Killgore Trout

My frogs are waking up from the winter. High on my priority list this week is getting their breeding area ready for fucking.

Barry White CD’s ,,, tea candles ,,,,

165 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:38:40pm

re: #159 FemNaziBitch

damn, beat me by 2 minutes ,, damn slow thumb typer I am

((in my defense I was typing a longer response above))

166 Gus  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:41:46pm

re: #154 Dark_Falcon

No, I’m just suggesting a change in the language used.

Wal-Mart caught a lot heat (no pun intended) for that clothing manufacturing facility fire in India. Both are de facto employees of each other. In a perfect world Apple would have American employees working under an American flagged Apple factory in Anytown, USA.

167 Gus  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:42:43pm

Plus that came with a heavy dose of cultural snark that DF should have caught. :D

168 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:45:01pm

re: #166 Gus

Wal-Mart caught a lot heat (no pun intended) for that clothing manufacturing facility fire in India. Both are de facto employees of each other. In a perfect world Apple would have American employees working under an American flagged Apple factory in Anytown, USA.

THen the people in China (or wherever) would have no job and fewer people would have apple products.

Each culture has to evolve at their own pace. I don’t like it, but that seems to be the way lasting change happens.

169 ninja cat  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:45:03pm
170 Gus  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:46:02pm

re: #168 FemNaziBitch

THen the people in China (or wherever) would have no job and fewer people would have apple products.

Each culture has to evolve at their own pace. I don’t like it, but that seems to be the way lasting change happens.

Then expect more Detroits.

There is a plus side of course. I think that a lot of this Chinese manufacturing has contributed to global peace and was part of the demise of the Cold War. It also provides jobs for a lot of third world people.

171 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:46:27pm

re: #169 ninja cat

Cutest squeak toy….er frog ever

No, frogs are not cute.

172 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:47:19pm

re: #170 Gus

Then expect more Detroits.

There is a plus side of course. I think that a lot of this Chinese manufacturing has contributed to global peace and was part of the demise of the Cold War. It also provides jobs for a lot of third world people.

A lot fewer Chinese people being “disappeared” as well.

173 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:49:13pm

re: #161 sattv4u2

Not the question. Sorry, but when I said ‘off the hook” I didn’t mean a LEGAL one, but a moral one. Arrow comes across as a clean cut all American company. Can’t be that while your supplier is abusing children, legal or not

((and BTW ,,, it’s a total hypothetical scenario. I have no clue as to where/ how Arrow has their shirts made))

Yep that’s why companies love subcontractors. Something goes wrong, some scandal breaks out, they can blame it all on the contractor and wash their hands off it.

You’d be surprised how many things are actually “outsourced” by way of being run by third party companies.

174 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:49:16pm

We’ve been “exporting” american values for so long, what did everyone think would happen? Once more and more countries come to 1st world development, they we become competition. If American’s think the status quo in this country will continue, they are blind to reality.

We need to innovate.

175 Gus  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:49:37pm

re: #172 FemNaziBitch

A lot fewer Chinese people being “disappeared” as well.

The world is like an organism. One has to consider. OK, we bring jobs, all jobs back to the USA. Then what happens to China? Would the result be worse?

176 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:49:46pm

re: #173 dragonfire1981

Yep that’s why companies love subcontractors. Something goes wrong, some scandal breaks out, they can blame it all on the contractor and wash their hands off it.

You’d be surprised how many things are actually “outsourced” by way of being run by third party companies.

I Pencil?

177 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:49:51pm

re: #168 FemNaziBitch

re: #170 Gus

The aim was to have a “Global Economy”!
Well Houston, we have a Global Economy, where we are now on a macro level (country vs country) that you used to see on a micro level (cities and towns competing for businesses)

178 Interesting Times  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:50:53pm

re: #170 Gus

I think that a lot of this Chinese manufacturing has contributed to global peace and was part of the demise of the Cold War. It also provides jobs for a lot of third world people.

It really is one of those “give with one hand, take with the other” sort of deals - yes, they get a measure of “prosperity” they otherwise wouldn’t have, but at a horrible, horrible, environmental cost, which - if allowed to get bad enough - will send all that peace and prosperity down the proverbial toilet.

179 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:51:22pm

re: #173 dragonfire1981

You’d be surprised how many things are actually “outsourced” by way of being run by third party companies.

I’m well aware

But it doesn’t always indemnify the company doing the outsourcing from culpability, either legally or in the court of public opinion

180 LWNJ  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:52:28pm

re: #152 FemNaziBitch

Obligatory Nightly Cuteness

Thanks. I have the dvd, but it’s been a long time since I listened to it. Maybe tonight….

181 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:53:18pm

re: #178 Interesting Times

It really is one of those “give with one hand, take with the other” sort of deals - yes, they get a measure of “prosperity” they otherwise wouldn’t have, but at a horrible, horrible, environmental cost, which - if allowed to get bad enough - will send all that peace and prosperity down the proverbial toilet.

Also of note: China, India and the U.S. are amongst the three largest producers of greenhouse gas emissions on the planet. Even if all the other nations on earth made a pact to try and lower emissions and those three countries abstained their would be little if no positive impact from the effort.

We have so much invested in China that the Chinese are not about to suddenly start going green (mind you they are working hard at alternative energy and such) but as long as there’s money providing slave labor manufacturing for American companies, China will be belching smog.

182 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:54:30pm

re: #175 Gus

The world is like an organism

I thought it was a ghetto

183 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:55:14pm

re: #179 sattv4u2


You’d be surprised how many things are actually “outsourced” by way of being run by third party companies.

I’m well aware

But it doesn’t always indemnify the company doing the outsourcing from culpability, either legally or in the court of public opinion

True, but companies generally THINK it will, which is why they commonly fall back on that strategy.

For example, awhile back I remember a story about Comcast tech in a Comcast van doing some improper things and getting busted for it. Comcast said it wasn’t actually their problem because this was a third party contractor that worked on behalf of Comcast. They just cut the cord with the contractor, gave themselves a pat on the back and resumed business as usual.

184 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:56:18pm

re: #183 dragonfire1981

True, but companies generally THINK it will, which is why they commonly fall back on that strategy.

For example, awhile back I remember a story about Comcast tech in a Comcast van doing some improper things and getting busted for it. Comcast said it wasn’t actually their problem because this was a third party contractor that worked on behalf of Comcast. They just cut the cord with the contractor, gave themselves a pat on the back and resumed business as usual.

But that you (and others) recall it it does stain Comcast, hence my comment re: the court of public opinion

Thats a real cost

185 Killgore Trout  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:56:42pm

No Rape for You!
Detained: Egyptian sheikh who said it is ‘halal’ to rape female protesters
Ok, maybe a little bit after sentencing.

186 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:59:06pm

re: #175 Gus

The world is like an organism. One has to consider. OK, we bring jobs, all jobs back to the USA. Then what happens to China? Would the result be worse?

James Lovelock and Gaia but applied to money.

187 Mich-again  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:01:41pm

I think Jim Hoft actually writes his blog posts from a random computer in the aisle at Best Buy, but sometimes he forgets to sign off and then someone else comes along and sees Hoft’s Blogger account left open and then they post parody like this on his site.

Either that or he really is that stupid.

188 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:03:31pm

re: #180 LWNJ

Thanks. I have the dvd, but it’s been a long time since I listened to it. Maybe tonight….

hmmm, I was wondering how you’d listen to jaguar cubs.

189 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:04:53pm

re: #158 Killgore Trout

My frogs are waking up from the winter. High on my priority list this week is getting their breeding area ready for fucking.

“His educational career began interestingly enough in agricultural school, where he majored in animal husbandry, until they caught him at it” - Tom Lehrer

190 Gus  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:04:54pm

re: #185 Killgore Trout

No Rape for You!
Detained: Egyptian sheikh who said it is ‘halal’ to rape female protesters
Ok, maybe a little bit after sentencing.

Good. Of course there is a free speech issue. Do we arrest and imprison people for hate speech such as this? Would it pass constitutional muster in the USA?

191 Interesting Times  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:07:21pm

re: #190 Gus

Good. Of course there is a free speech issue. Do we arrest and imprison people for hate speech such as this? Would it pass constitutional muster in the USA?

If nothing else, it is ironic this fundamentalist fuckwit gets bitten by the very laws I’m sure he loved to see used against Christians and moderates.

192 Killgore Trout  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:09:03pm

re: #190 Gus

Good. Of course there is a free speech issue. Do we arrest and imprison people for hate speech such as this? Would it pass constitutional muster in the USA?

Interesting question. I would guess that even in the US with free speech protection it would be considered incitement. You can say thing like “god hates fags” which is protected speech but if you say “god wants you to kill fags” would be incitement to violence. Not Protected by free speech or freedom of religion.

193 Gus  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:11:07pm

re: #192 Killgore Trout

Interesting question. I would guess that even in the US with free speech protection it would be considered incitement. You can say thing like “god hates fags” which is protected speech but if you say “god wants you to kill fags” would be incitement to violence. Not Protected by free speech of freedom of religion.

Yeah. Sort of like “hate people X” versus “I want you to go out there and kill the X people.”

194 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:12:01pm

bbl

195 Gus  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:12:44pm

9:12

197 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:13:40pm

re: #195 Gus

9:12

3:16 !
/

198 Killgore Trout  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:14:37pm

re: #193 Gus

Yeah. Sort of like “hate people X” versus “I want you to go out there and kill the X people.”

Of course the Egyptians are just fucking with him because he’s a problem and a dickhead but under American understanding of freedom you can pray for your god to kill or hate people but you can’t say you’re god says it’s ok to kill people. The former is imaginary and more or less harmless, the latter is a religious justification/obligation to commit a crime.

199 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:15:34pm

re: #197 sattv4u2

3:16 !
/

Hike!

200 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:17:11pm

re: #199 b_sharp

Hike!

Or as the Montreal Alouettes say

promenade

201 Gus  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:18:05pm

re: #198 Killgore Trout

Of course the Egyptians are just fucking with him because he’s a problem and a dickhead but under American understanding of freedom you can pray for your god to kill or hate people but you can’t say you’re god says it’s ok to kill people. The former is imaginary and more or less harmless, the latter is a religious justification/obligation to commit a crime.

Show trial.

202 Local Media Monitor  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:18:26pm

I wonder if Hoft would answer with “fake but accurate”

203 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:18:38pm

re: #200 sattv4u2

Or as the Montreal Alouettes say

promenade

Did you have to look that CFL ref up?

204 Gus  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:18:47pm

I’m still embarrassed by Al Gore.

205 Killgore Trout  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:18:51pm

There’s been a bit of a crime wave in my neighborhood over the past year or so. A few days ago there was an attempted home invasion at the house across the street form me. Even the most progressive, hippy, non-profit worker and generic protester is thinking of buying guns soon before laws change. Kind of interesting to see the process. Pretty soon my block is going to look like this

206 Killgore Trout  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:19:17pm

re: #204 Gus

I’m still embarrassed by Al Gore.

Everybody is.

207 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:19:45pm

re: #203 b_sharp

Did you have to look that CFL ref up?

{sigh} ,, yes,, {blush}

BUT,,, I knew what I intended to do I did did done it!

208 Local Media Monitor  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:20:44pm

re: #206 Killgore Trout
“everybody”

209 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:20:46pm

re: #203 b_sharp

re: #207 sattv4u2

{sigh} ,, yes,, {blush}

BUT,,, I knew what I intended to do I did did done it!

ADDENDUM

Didn’t have to look up the Alouettes,,, just the hike - french word

210 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:21:01pm

re: #204 Gus

I’m still embarrassed by Al Gore.

Why?

211 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:21:22pm

re: #207 sattv4u2

{sigh} ,, yes,, {blush}

BUT,,, I knew what I intended to do I did did done it!

Kudos.

212 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:21:44pm

re: #209 sattv4u2

re: #207 sattv4u2

ADDENDUM

Didn’t have to look up the Alouettes,,, just the hike - french word

Even more kudos.

213 Gus  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:21:51pm

re: #210 b_sharp

Why?

Not sure. Just something about being a bullshit artist and stuff.

214 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:22:09pm

re: #213 Gus

Not sure. Just something about being a bullshit artist and stuff.

ouch

215 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:23:04pm

re: #208 They Once Called Me Moonbat

“everybody”

Yeah. Kilgore shouldn’t have said “everybody”

216 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:23:09pm

re: #213 Gus

Not sure. Just something about being a bullshit artist and stuff.

What did he bullshit?
I only know him from the climate movie.

217 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:23:20pm

re: #215 sattv4u2

Yeah. Kilgore shouldn’t have said “everybody”

he should have said “everybody with common sense”

218 aagcobb  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:23:36pm

re: #192 Killgore Trout

Interesting question. I would guess that even in the US with free speech protection it would be considered incitement. You can say thing like “god hates fags” which is protected speech but if you say “god wants you to kill fags” would be incitement to violence. Not Protected by free speech or freedom of religion.

No, its not really incitement unless you actually tell someone to go rape and kill. There are people, for example, who freely say that murdering abortion doctors is justifiable homicide without getting arrested for it.

219 TedStriker  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:23:45pm

re: #213 Gus

Not sure. Just something about being a bullshit artist and stuff.

I agree with that assessment; while Gore has the reputation for being a bit wooden, on a visceral level, I’ve never really cared for him.

He’s the stereotypical child of a D.C politician.

220 Local Media Monitor  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:24:14pm

re: #214 sattv4u2
If he’d been a real bullshitter he wouldn’t have bowed out of an election he in fact won. Don’t you think bullshitter is more apt for the guy who ended up in office when Gore won the election?

221 Gus  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:24:34pm

re: #214 sattv4u2

ouch

He got richer than Mitt Romney by selling Current TV to oil nation state owned AJ. It’s a joke. He’s even shilling for Foxconn in the last video I posted.

222 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:25:18pm

re: #220 They Once Called Me Moonbat

If he’d been a real bullshitter he wouldn’t have bowed out of an election he in fact won. Don’t you think bullshitter is more apt for the guy who ended up in office when Gore won the election?

“in fact”

mmmmkaaaayyy

223 Gus  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:25:46pm

My father. He mentions. Yeah. His father the racist.

224 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:27:08pm

re: #221 Gus

He got richer than Mitt Romney by selling Current TV to oil nation state owned AJ. It’s a joke. He’s even shilling for Foxconn in the last video I posted.

So it isn’t his climate work that has you all negative.

225 Gus  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:27:37pm

re: #224 b_sharp

So it isn’t his climate work that has you all negative.

What work?

226 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:27:59pm

re: #223 Gus

My father. He mentions. Yeah. His father the racist.

Unpossible
His father was a democrat!

227 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:28:27pm

re: #225 Gus

What work?

An Inconvenient Truth

228 Gus  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:28:30pm

re: #226 sattv4u2

Unpossible
His father was a democrat!

Suckers.

229 Gus  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:32:04pm

re: #227 b_sharp

An Inconvenient Truth

Wow. A third grader could understand that.

230 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:34:15pm

re: #229 Gus

Wow. A third grader could understand that.

Could a third grader put it together and promote it to large audiences? Whether you like the man or not, he did do a lot to popularize the work of climate scientists and the concern for AGW.

231 Mich-again  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:35:08pm

re: #229 Gus

Wow. A third grader could understand that.

So Al Gore is a dick, thus climate change is a hoax? Or are you mad that Al Gore made a killing from shilling for climate change? I’m not following you here..

232 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:35:59pm

re: #231 Mich-again

So Al Gore is a dick, thus climate change is a hoax? Or are you mad that Al Gore made a killing from shilling for climate change? I’m not following you here..

Gus didn’t say AGW is a hoax.

233 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:36:34pm

re: #230 b_sharp

Could a third grader put it together and promote it to large audiences

Me’thinks he had help

He was pitching it at small town hall meetings when Laurie David saw it
Recognize the name???

Wife of Larry David, co-creator of Seinfeld and creator of Curb Your Enthusiasm

234 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:37:34pm

Guess that puts the GOP and most if its base below a third grade level.
Since, you know, they think AGW is a hoax.

235 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:37:45pm

re: #233 sattv4u2


Could a third grader put it together and promote it to large audiences

Me’thinks he had help

He was pitching it at small town hall meetings when Laurie David saw it
Recognize the name???

Wife of Larry David

Who is Larry David?

236 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:38:31pm

re: #235 b_sharp

Who is Larry David?

He knows a tad about Hollywood, TV shows and movie making/ distribution

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

237 Mich-again  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:39:34pm

re: #232 b_sharp

Gus didn’t say AGW is a hoax.

But he didn’t say it’s not either. I lost the trail..

238 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:39:42pm

re: #231 Mich-again

So Al Gore is a dick, thus climate change is a hoax? Or are you mad that Al Gore made a killing from shilling for climate change? I’m not following you here..

Did you break an ankle when you made that leap??

239 Mich-again  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:40:54pm

re: #238 sattv4u2

Did you break an ankle when you made that leap??

Did you see the word “or” in that post? or are you a dick like Al Gore.

240 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:40:56pm

re: #233 sattv4u2


Could a third grader put it together and promote it to large audiences

Me’thinks he had help

He was pitching it at small town hall meetings when Laurie David saw it
Recognize the name???

Wife of Larry David

Whether he had help or not is irrelevant, nobody puts together a movie of that magnitude by himself.

What is important is the question, would the movie have been made without Gore?

Another question: would the movie have been as influential without Gore’s notoriety and presentations?

241 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:41:25pm

re: #233 sattv4u2


Could a third grader put it together and promote it to large audiences

Me’thinks he had help

He knew a little something about putting things together already. Remember Earth in the Balance? The best-seller he wrote in 1992? This is not a stupid or inarticulate man.

242 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:41:27pm

re: #239 Mich-again

Did you see the word “or” in that post? or are you a dick like Al Gore.

Well, at least you’re now admitting he’s a dick!!

243 Mich-again  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:42:01pm

re: #242 sattv4u2

duh? Of course he is.

244 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:42:16pm

re: #240 b_sharp

Whether he had help or not is irrelevant, nobody puts together a movie of that magnitude by himself.

What is important is the question, would the movie have been made without Gore?

Another question: would the movie have been as influential without Gore’s notoriety and presentations?

Nope and nope

245 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:42:33pm

re: #243 Mich-again

duh? Of course he is.

Then whats your issue with Gus saying it?

246 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:43:37pm

re: #236 sattv4u2

He knows a tad about Hollywood, TV shows and movie making/ distribution

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

What did he do for The Inconvenient Truth?

247 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:45:32pm

re: #246 b_sharp

What did he do for The Inconvenient Truth?

In Hollywood, it’s all about connections. Laurie, (wife of Larry) was the conduit for Al to get the connections

248 Mich-again  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:46:18pm

re: #245 sattv4u2

Then whats your issue with Gus saying it?

I just asked for a clarification? what is this a game of Clue? It started with this..

I’m still embarrassed by Al Gore.#ClimateChange #AGW #DoucheNozzles #RichPeople

WTF does that mean? There could be more than one explanation.

249 Amory Blaine  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:46:28pm

What’s up you fucking prudes? Just got off work and I’m naked from the waist down.

/slicks back hair

250 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:47:18pm

re: #244 sattv4u2

Nope and nope

Then minimizing Gore in AGW popularization is a bit iffy isn’t it?

251 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:47:27pm

re: #248 Mich-again

I just asked for a clarification? what is this a game of Clue? It started with this..

WTF does that mean? There could be more than one explanation.

And he (Gus) explained it

And it had nothing to do with AGW

252 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:48:16pm

re: #249 Amory Blaine

What’s up you fucking prudes? Just got off work and I’m naked from the waist down.

/slicks back hair

Stick that damn thing back in before it hurts somebody.

253 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:49:18pm

re: #250 b_sharp

Then minimizing Gore in AGW popularization is a bit iffy isn’t it?

Nobody “minimized it”, but just as you postulated that ” would the movie have been made without Gore?” and “would the movie have been as influential without Gore’s notoriety and presentations” doesn’t alter that he had to have Hollywood help (i.e. Laurie and Larry) to get it done

254 Amory Blaine  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:49:57pm

re: #252 b_sharp

My belly?

255 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:53:12pm

This is me, heaving a big sigh.

256 Mich-again  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:54:15pm

re: #253 sattv4u2

Nobody “minimized it”, but just as you postulated that ” would the movie have been made without Gore?” and “would the movie have been as influential without Gore’s notoriety and presentations” doesn’t alter that he had to have Hollywood help (i.e. Laurie and Larry) to get it done

Would the polar ice caps still be melting even if Al Gore’s movie had never been made. yes, without a doubt. Would Gore have gotten so rich and famous without the movie? Well, he had already been the VP so he was already famous, as for rich, he is just a different flavor of Mitt Romney.. He used his influence and position to get richer. Is Al Gore an opportunistic dick who is mostly concerned with promoting Al Gore? in my opinion yes.

257 makeitstop  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:55:39pm

re: #233 sattv4u2


Could a third grader put it together and promote it to large audiences

Me’thinks he had help

He was pitching it at small town hall meetings when Laurie David saw it
Recognize the name???

Wife of Larry David, co-creator of Seinfeld and creator of Curb Your Enthusiasm

That’s how things get done, Satty. You know that.

Did Gore have a better chance of getting someone experienced with media involved than, say, a Joe on the street like me? Yeah, probably.

258 Amory Blaine  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:56:38pm

I’ve never seen a movie, where when the credits roll at the end, one mans name stands alone.

259 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:57:14pm

re: #253 sattv4u2

Nobody “minimized it”, but just as you postulated that ” would the movie have been made without Gore?” and “would the movie have been as influential without Gore’s notoriety and presentations” doesn’t alter that he had to have Hollywood help (i.e. Laurie and Larry) to get it done

OK, but I don’t remember saying he did it alone. My only point was that he was an important player in the early popularization of AGW science. That he had help doesn’t make him less important unless there is only so much ‘importance’ to share among the contributors.

260 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:57:37pm

re: #255 Charles Johnson

This is me, heaving a big sigh.

Walking Dead?

261 makeitstop  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 9:11:37pm

re: #258 Amory Blaine

I’ve never seen a movie, where when the credits roll at the end, one mans name stands alone.

The Beatles could have totally sold all those records on their talent alone. Who needs people experienced in recording, producing, marketing and distributing, anyway?

///

262 austin_blue  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 9:15:13pm

re: #255 Charles Johnson

This is me, heaving a big sigh.

I know! The meat of the film was true. The fact that it is still a point of contention, this late in what is now an accepted fact by any sane human being, is just pitiful.

263 Lidane  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 9:18:31pm

The Walking Dead was great tonight, as usual. My love for Daryl Dixon’s character continues.

Also, this happened: Country singer Mindy McCready dead at age 37

264 b_sharp  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 9:19:21pm

re: #262 austin_blue

I know! The meat of the film was true. The fact that it is still a point of contention, this late in what is now an accepted fact by any sane human being, is just pitiful.

I don’t think anybody here doubts the science in the film, the question is all about Gore and his honesty.

265 austin_blue  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 9:22:36pm

re: #264 b_sharp

I don’t think anybody here doubts the science in the film, the question is all about Gore and his honesty.

So the science is correct but Gore is dishonest? Pardon me if I join Charles in heaving a big sigh.

266 makeitstop  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 9:23:41pm

re: #265 austin_blue

So the science is correct but Gore is dishonest? Pardon me if I join Charles in heaving a big sigh.

And he’s fat. Or is that Michael Moore?
/

267 makeitstop  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 9:25:59pm

re: #263 Lidane

The Walking Dead was great tonight, as usual. My love for Daryl Dixon’s character continues.

Also, this happened: Country singer Mindy McCready dead at age 37

McCready’s story is a sad one. I hate to see anyone go out like that.

268 Kragar (Antichrist )  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 9:31:36pm

Got a couple people who might be interested in my 40k stuff, hopefully I can sell off my extra stuff in the next week or two.

269 Targetpractice  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 9:41:04pm

Mother Nature, I don’t know what I did to piss you off, but I’m sorry. Now PLEASE, turn the heat back on!

270 austin_blue  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 9:46:19pm

re: #268 Kragar (Antichrist )

Got a couple people who might be interested in my 40k stuff, hopefully I can sell off my extra stuff in the next week or two.

271 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 10:02:58pm

Gore now has more money than principles, but he still devoted a ton of time and energy to what is probably the most important cause of our generation. His motives for doing so may be unclear. maybe he wanted a legacy, maybe he wanted to run for president again. I have no clue. But it really doesn’t matter that much. He was raising awareness of the issue and calling for action. I don’t think that the nutbar right-wing reaction to climate change was because it was Al Gore, I think it was much more rooted in religious fervor and simple greedheadedness. I think he did a lot of good in publicizing climate change, and he took a fuckton of shit for it too.

He sold out, literally, but that doesn’t erase what he did before, either. But he definitely sold out, and he must have known that this would work to discredit his previous advocacy, so it does take away from it somewhat.

272 freetoken  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 10:07:27pm

My internet connection tonight is definitely sluggish. Cox is so strange - at times I get much less than the advertised 15Mb/s, and at other times more. It’s very uneven.

273 Kragar (Antichrist )  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 10:19:08pm

re: #272 freetoken

My internet connection tonight is definitely sluggish. Cox is so strange - at times I get much less than the advertised 15Mb/s, and at other times more. It’s very uneven.

I really don’t like them, but its not like we have another choice.

274 sagehen  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 10:23:54pm

re: #263 Lidane

The Walking Dead was great tonight, as usual. My love for Daryl Dixon’s character continues.

Also, this happened: Country singer Mindy McCready dead at age 37

Daryl is awesome. That is all.

275 freetoken  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 10:25:50pm

re: #273 Kragar (Antichrist )

The “choice” is DSL from ATT, which is hardly a choice as it is nearly as expensive for much less bandwidth.

276 makeitstop  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 10:27:13pm

Long Island is under a high wind warning until noon tomorrow. The wind has been coming in long, rolling waves - steady winds in the 30 MPH range with gusts to 50 MPH.

It’s about 15 degrees here with a wind chill in the negatives. I just took my dog outside, and neither he nor I could get back inside fast enough. Damn, it’s cold.

277 Kragar (Antichrist )  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 10:29:09pm

re: #275 freetoken

The “choice” is DSL from ATT, which is hardly a choice as it is nearly as expensive for much less bandwidth.

Like I said, its not a choice.

278 freetoken  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 10:30:43pm
279 chadu  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 10:45:40pm

re: #171 FemNaziBitch

No, frogs are not cute.

Don’t be a hater.// ;)

280 stabby  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 11:43:32pm

re: #220 They Once Called Me Moonbat

If he’d been a real bullshitter he wouldn’t have bowed out of an election he in fact won. Don’t you think bullshitter is more apt for the guy who ended up in office when Gore won the election?

He didn’t bow out, he took it to the supreme court.

I heard him on the radio today, he said that he took the supreme court decision gracefully because, and I quote “We looked into it, and there is no stage in between accepting a supreme court decision and rebellion!”

Think about it, the Supreme Court is the highest court in the land, after a Supreme Court decision, there is no place to appeal to. It’s over.

281 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 11:48:09pm

Fun. Just got off the phone with my drunk, trainwreck, alkie half brother who called me randomly while on a bender. He’s facing trial for DUI in a few weeks but spent a half out spinning some elaborate story about how he wants to sail to New Zealand with friends but needs help because he left his passport on another boat that’s currently stuck somewhere off the coast of Russia. It’s all a bullshit confabulation, dude hasn’t been out of the country in over a decade.

282 stabby  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 11:48:30pm

re: #206 Killgore Trout

re: #204 Gus

I’m still embarrassed by Al Gore.

Everybody is.

Really? I see no reason to be.

Are you more embarrassed by Al Gore than by George W. Bush?
How about Dan Quayle?
Or Sarah Palin?

283 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:26:38am

re: #204 Gus

I’m still embarrassed by Al Gore.

I am a bit embarassed over the way that he thought he could could just announce his retirement for politics, take up a cause (global warming) and think that it would automatically elevate him to the level of respected elder statesman, above and beyound politics.

Although I find his cause noble and agree with most of his message, his approach wound up giving anti-AGW folks a face and a target to rally against and turned a lot of people who were neutral or simply unaware of the issue into ravernous AGW deniers, just because of the fact that they hated Al Gore and his politics.

And now the arguments really are heard that Al Gore is a dick/hypocrite, therefore AGW is a hoax. It is truly sad.

284 stabby  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:34:59am

re: #283 Sol Berdinowitz

Meh, those same people are dupes to propaganda paid for by oil execs and executed by all those old hand tobacco-is-good-for-you fake scientists and liars at the Heritage Foundation.

If a former Democrat Vice president wasn’t promoting AGW, they’d still love to hate all those scientists, those environmentalists, those hippies. They’d still buy the idea that science is a socialist plot against capitalism, they’d still buy the idea that environmentalism is heresy against the dogma of a benevolent God.

285 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:36:44am

re: #280 stabby

Think about it, the Supreme Court is the highest court in the land, after a Supreme Court decision, there is no place to appeal to. It’s over.

There is a higher authority, it is the Bible and if the SCOTUS does not reflect Biblical law in its decisions, then we are compelled to ignore them!

286 sagehen  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:49:35am

re: #280 stabby

He didn’t bow out, he took it to the supreme court.

I heard him on the radio today, he said that he took the supreme court decision gracefully because, and I quote “We looked into it, and there is no stage in between accepting a supreme court decision and rebellion!”

Think about it, the Supreme Court is the highest court in the land, after a Supreme Court decision, there is no place to appeal to. It’s over.

There’s the Senate, the constitution provides specifically for a procedure. (at the time it was an even split, and VP-still-standing-Gore would have been the tiebreaking vote, and… it would have been ugly, and R’s would have complained vehemently forever about doing it that way, but… IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ENTIRELY LEGAL AND CONSTITUTIONAL).

He chose not to do that because the result would have been a country even more bitterly divided than it actually is anyway — that playing every possible legal maneuver and working the rules and getting the big chair was less important to him than what that would have done to the country’s mood/tone.

287 Mattand  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:54:01am

re: #282 stabby

Everybody is.

Really? I see no reason to be.

Are you more embarrassed by Al Gore than by George W. Bush?
How about Dan Quayle?
Or Sarah Palin?

re: #286 sagehen

There’s the Senate, the constitution provides specifically for a procedure. (at the time it was an even split, and VP-still-standing-Gore would have been the tiebreaking vote, and… it would have been ugly, and R’s would have complained vehemently forever about doing it that way, but… IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ENTIRELY LEGAL AND CONSTITUTIONAL).

He chose not to do that because the result would have been a country even more bitterly divided than it actually is anyway — that playing every possible legal maneuver and working the rules and getting the big chair was less important to him than what that would have done to the country’s mood/tone.

Yeah, but Al Gore so shut up. ///

Just do not get the Al Gore hatred. He’s not perfect, but to embarrassed by him? That’s really fucking stupid.

288 Shvaughn  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:06:30am

re: #280 stabby

He didn’t bow out, he took it to the supreme court.

The decision was named Bush v. Gore. In a legal case, the petitioner’s name comes first, not the defendant.

Bush is the one who took it to the supreme court.

Why are you trying to rewrite history?

289 stabby  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:08:46am

re: #288 Shvaughn

Oh, so he bowed out then?

290 Shvaughn  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:09:41am

re: #289 stabby

Oh, so he bowed out then?

He didn’t “take it to the Supreme Court,” did he?

291 stabby  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:12:41am

He went to the supreme court. If you want to miss the point which was that he didn’t bow out, unless you consider anything less than holding the white house at gunpoint bowing out, then feel free. You can miss the point from now till morning non-stop.

292 Shvaughn  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:15:38am

re: #291 stabby

He went to the supreme court. If you want to miss the point which was that he didn’t bow out, unless you consider anything less than holding the white house at gunpoint bowing out, then feel free. You can miss the point from now till morning non-stop.

LOL. I’m not the one who said he “bowed out.”

You, on the other hand, are the one who falsely claimed that he took the case to the supreme court, which he quite clearly did not.

Why are you insisting you’re right and I’m wrong, in the face of you being quite obviously incorrect?

293 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:29:58am

re: #287 Mattand

Just do not get the Al Gore hatred. He’s not perfect, but to embarrassed by him? That’s really fucking stupid.

My only problem is a certain arrogance in thinking that he could retire fro politics, declare himself an elder statesman and advance the cause of AGW in a non-paratisan way.

I don’t think he harmed the cause in any way, he just gave the vested interests who are out to discredit AGW a target they could all rail against.

Because Al Gore!

294 Jimmah The Unacceptable  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:35:33am

And the worms ate into his brain.

295 freetoken  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:54:20am
296 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:10:30am

re: #185 Killgore Trout

No Rape for You!
Detained: Egyptian sheikh who said it is ‘halal’ to rape female protesters
Ok, maybe a little bit after sentencing.

Also interesting: The Lion’s Den: A Guide to Assad’s Regime

The slideshow represents Assad and his lackeys with playing cards in a deliberate echo of the famous deck of playing cards issued to US troops that featured the pictures of Saddam Hussein and his family and cronies.

297 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:39:01am

re: #286 sagehen

There’s the Senate, the constitution provides specifically for a procedure. (at the time it was an even split, and VP-still-standing-Gore would have been the tiebreaking vote, and… it would have been ugly, and R’s would have complained vehemently forever about doing it that way, but… IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ENTIRELY LEGAL AND CONSTITUTIONAL).

He chose not to do that because the result would have been a country even more bitterly divided than it actually is anyway — that playing every possible legal maneuver and working the rules and getting the big chair was less important to him than what that would have done to the country’s mood/tone.

The Senate does not elect the president in case the electoral college cannot do so, the House of Representatives does that. The Senate elects the vice president. So if Florida’s electoral votes had not counted in 2000, Gore would still likely have lost. For him, Bush vs. Gore was the end of the line.

298 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:20:47am

re: #170 Gus

Then expect more Detroits.

There is a plus side of course. I think that a lot of this Chinese manufacturing has contributed to global peace and was part of the demise of the Cold War. It also provides jobs for a lot of third world people.

Hm, how do I explain this? Yeah, there are a lot of abandoned properties in Detroit. However there are a bunch of JOBS available in Detroit, particularly for skilled automotive professionals. Also a lot of cheap homes in nice neighborhoods on the other side of 8 Mile.

299 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:27:39am

re: #298 Vicious Babushka

a lot of cheap homes in nice neighborhoods

That’s nationwide

For years (about 25 now) a friend of mine in Boston as well as one here in Atlanta (for the past 10 years) have bought a few homes, put a few dollars in them then re-sold

Never in all that time have we found nicer homes that needed less work at these prices

((note: ,, we don’t do this often nor as a primary source of income. About 1 or 2 a year at most,))

300 Mich-again  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:50:15am

re: #298 Vicious Babushka

Also a lot of cheap homes in nice neighborhoods on the other side of 8 Mile.

And South and West of the city as well, Downriver lifer here.. And very true about job opportunities in engineering and IT in the area.

301 Mich-again  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:52:23am

re: #297 Dark_Falcon

The Senate does not elect the president in case the electoral college cannot do so, the House of Representatives does that. The Senate elects the vice president. So if Florida’s electoral votes had not counted in 2000, Gore would still likely have lost. For him, Bush vs. Gore was the end of the line.

In the Presidential electoral tie-breaker in the House, each State gets 1 vote regardless of how many Reps their State has. In that scenario the GOP crushes the Dems.

302 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:57:44am

re: #300 Mich-again

And South and West of the city as well, Downriver lifer here.. And very true about job opportunities in engineering and IT in the area.

There was a Jobs drought from about 2002-2009, after Y2K and companies started moving high-paying jobs offshore.

This caused a lot of customer dissatisfaction, and after the GM bailout US-based call centers reopened.

Before 2002, about half the workforce in any GM, Ford or Chrysler IT center, consisted of H1B guest workers. Today, everyone where I work is American (unfortunately also almost all white & male)

303 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 5:16:49am

*FACE PALM*

304 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 5:19:06am

re: #301 Mich-again

In the Presidential electoral tie-breaker in the House, each State gets 1 vote regardless of how many Reps their State has. In that scenario the GOP crushes the Dems.

That’s exactly how it would have unfolded in 2000 had the election gone to the House. Al Gore knew this, so when the Supreme Court ruled unfavorably he decided to concede rather than than playing things out to a conclusion he knew would not favor him.

305 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 5:20:33am

re: #303 Vicious Babushka

*FACE PALM*

Barack Obama isn’t a ‘rabid’ anything, but some of his detractors are. This person is clearly on of those.

306 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 5:20:49am

re: #303 Vicious Babushka

Image: Obama%20Wailing%20Wall.jpg

Why are Obama and that Amish guy looking at that wall together? What’s he up to?

307 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 5:23:43am

Let’s see if Rubio can manage a trip abroad without beclowning himself the way Romney did.

309 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 5:27:37am

Heh.

310 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 5:30:40am

re: #309 Vicious Babushka

Heh.

To borrow from Jeff Foxworthy: “If you combine Elvis sideburns with camouflage, then you might be a redneck.

311 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 6:08:52am
312 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 6:10:00am

Last night this guy tweeted the exact same thing, when I brought up 241 US Marines he shrieked YOU CAN’T COMPARE! I said BUT YOU JUST TOLD US TO! Wingnut cognitive dissonance.

313 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 6:18:07am

re: #312 Vicious Babushka

Last night this guy tweeted the exact same thing, when I brought up 241 US Marines he shrieked YOU CAN’T COMPARE! I said BUT YOU JUST TOLD US TO! Wingnut cognitive dissonance.

I think that to scream at either President over that sort of sneak attack is wrong. They didn’t oversee the security arrangements for the attacked installations and didn’t really have the opportunity to reply to the attacks without risking a quagmire.

314 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 6:24:35am
315 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 6:29:01am

re: #314 Vicious Babushka

Not checking sources isn’t very prudent.

316 stabby  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 6:30:03am

Last night I was arguing about global warming over on PJ Media.

I linked [Link: www.loe.org…]
and said that it’s stupid to believe a conspiracy theory that all the world’s scientists are part of a world-wide science conspiracy for socialism.

Living on Earth
PRI’s Environmental News Magazine
Starving Polar Bears
Air Date: Week of February 15, 2013

Among responses were:
You are quoting an NPR [sic] publication?
Seriously?

and
BTW, since you’re a bit slow, a conspriracy of scientists is not required when the majority of scientists have all been trained via the same system, which has been taken over, as described by Bill Ayers.

Really, quoting PRI? Are you TRYING to look make yourself non-credible?

**FACEPALM**

317 stabby  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 6:35:55am

I also got called “a preadolescent” because, apparently, no one over 10 would think that science isn’t a massive communist conspiracy, or that 120 million in oil company money going to propaganda mills has brainwashed the conservative base.

318 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 6:39:29am

Good morning lizards!

Another meteor spotted this weekend. This time in Florida…

Bright Streak Lights Up Florida Night Sky; Likely Sporadic Meteor, Expert Says

319 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 6:40:04am

re: #316 stabby

Last night I was arguing about global warming over on PJ Media.

I linked [Link: www.loe.org…]
and said that it’s stupid to believe a conspiracy theory that all the world’s scientists are part of a world-wide science conspiracy for socialism.

Among responses were:
You are quoting an NPR [sic] publication?
Seriously?

and
BTW, since you’re a bit slow, a conspriracy of scientists is not required when the majority of scientists have all been trained via the same system, which has been taken over, as described by Bill Ayers.

Really, quoting PRI? Are you TRYING to look make yourself non-credible?

**FACEPALM**

Make sure you wash up after wading through that sewer.

320 stabby  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 6:43:43am

Apparently the epistimic closure has reached the point where any publication that ISN’T wingnut media or right wing industry-paid-for propaganda mill is automatically wrong. They don’t even have to read the article and find out the sources quoted.

321 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 6:47:52am

re: #315 Dark_Falcon

Not checking sources isn’t very prudent.

This moron wingnut keeps retweeting this fake Washington quote OVER AND OVER AND OVER saying GO VIRAL!!!!!!!!!

Face-palming insanity.

322 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 6:48:52am

re: #321 Vicious Babushka

This moron wingnut keeps retweeting this fake Washington quote OVER AND OVER AND OVER saying GO VIRAL!!!!!!!!!

Face-palming insanity.

That fake quote is already a virus, and its infected those trying to push it.

323 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 6:54:19am

Every time I correct a Fake Quote, the wingnut lady screams

EEEEEEEE! A librul troll! Block it! Blockitblockitblockit!1!

Nothing is more threatening to their FREEDOM!1! than some LIBRUL correcting a Fake Quote.

324 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 6:54:48am

re: #318 NJDhockeyfan

Good morning lizards!

Another meteor spotted this weekend. This time in Florida…

Bright Streak Lights Up Florida Night Sky; Likely Sporadic Meteor, Expert Says

“They’re” probing us. Seeing what our response is at various places around the world. Once they identify the weak spots, “they’ll” attack!!!

325 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 6:56:47am

How are we supposed to celebrate “President’s Day”? A few suggestions.
1. Look someone directly in the eye and tell them an bald-faced lie; expect them to believe it and thank you for telling it to them.
2. Have someone else kill someone you don’t like.
3. Get a Mistress. She doesn’t even have to be pretty.
4. Host a lavish meal in your own honor, use someone else’s credit card to pay for it. Tell that person how honored they should be.
5. Ask someone for some spare cash, don’t use it for the reason that you told them you needed it.
6. Don’t let anyone use your name. Everyone has to call you “Mr. (Insert your job title here)”.

I feel “Presidential” already !!!

326 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 6:57:18am

re: #323 Vicious Babushka

Every time I correct a Fake Quote, the wingnut lady screams

Nothing is more threatening to their FREEDOM!1! than some LIBRUL correcting a Fake Quote.

Just repost the following every time she does that:

“People have the right to their own opinions, but not their own facts.”

327 dragonath  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:00:04am
328 stabby  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:00:31am

re: #326 Dark_Falcon

“People have the right to their own opinions, but not their own facts.”

There would be no “conservative” movement in the US, no FOX, no Heritage, no Limbaugh if they had to rely on disagreements on policy rather than on bullshit.

329 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:00:42am

I should tweet my own Fake Quotes. GO VIRAL!1!1!1!TY

330 stabby  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:03:04am

Swoon.

I melt when you speak lolcat.

331 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:03:49am

And on that note, the long quiet drive home beckons

BBL

332 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:04:24am

re: #324 sattv4u2

“They’re” probing us. Seeing what our response is at various places around the world. Once they identify the weak spots, “they’ll” attack!!!

Troofers have already made suggestions that it wasn’t a meteor. One was a Russian lawmaker:

In language echoing that of the Cold War, nationalist Russian lawmaker Vladimir Zhirinovsky, said: “Those were not meteorites, it was Americans testing their new weapons.

“John Kerry wanted to warn (Russia’s Foreign Minister) Lavrov on Monday, he was looking for Lavrov, and Lavrov was on a trip.

“He meant to warn Lavrov about a provocation against Russia.”

According to Zhirinovsky, who is perhaps more famous for fist-fights than physics, meteorites falling on Russia is an impossibility.

Referring to outer space Zhirinovsky said: “Nothing will ever fall out there, if something falls, it’s people doing that. People are the instigators of wars, the provocateurs.”

and another was Jose Canseco

…The former Major League Baseball player took to Twitter yesterday regarding the surprise Russian meteor explosion, and said he’s not buying the government line about what went down.

“No way that was a meteor in Russia today,” Canseco tweeted.

…Canseco thinks it’s North Korea’s fault.

Heh.

333 dragonath  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:06:01am

re: #332 NJDhockeyfan

I guess that baseball that hit him on the head was from North Korea too.

Do the math!

334 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:06:27am

Meanwhile scientists have recovered pieces of the meteor…

Russian scientists collect, study pieces of meteor

MOSCOW — Russian scientists declared Monday that they have found and established the composition of pieces of the meteor that exploded over the Chelyabinsk region last week, injuring hundreds of people and causing millions of dollars worth of damage.

Over the weekend, 53 tiny pieces of dark porous material were collected near Chebarkul Lake, 60 miles west of Chelyabinsk, the regional center, officials said. The biggest of the finds was 7 millimeters long.

The samples were without doubt meteorites, Viktor Grokhovsky, a member of the Russian Academy of Sciences meteorite committee, said early Monday.

335 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:06:41am

re: #328 stabby

There would be no “conservative” movement in the US, no FOX, no Heritage, no Limbaugh if they had to rely on disagreements on policy rather than on bullshit.

That just isn’t true. Fox News might require bullshit, but the Heritage Foundation could survive on policy matters.

336 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:08:05am

re: #332 NJDhockeyfan

Maybe he’s just telling North Korea they need to improve their test scores.

337 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:08:34am

re: #335 Dark_Falcon

That just isn’t true. Fox News might require bullshit, but the Heritage Foundation could survive on policy matters.

The Heritage foundation’s policies are also bullshit, founded on bullshit statistics, using bullshit theories.

338 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:13:06am

Take this little slice I randomly found on Heritage’s website:

Second, Roosevelt advocated shifting government powers away from the three constitutional branches of government and into a federal bureaucracy that was unaccountable to the people and which combined all three functions of government.

The federal bureaucracy is part of the three branches of government, idiots. Jesus. How can they even write a sentence like that without the semantics of it making them pitch forward over the table?

339 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:15:55am

re: #338 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Take this little slice I randomly found on Heritage’s website:

The federal bureaucracy is part of the three branches of government, idiots. Jesus. How can they even write a sentence like that without the semantics of it making them pitch forward over the table?

What they mean is that FDR wanted broad laws from that let his administration set policy, thus allowing the bureaucracy to set policy as a practical matter.

340 dragonath  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:16:18am

Woah, Jose Canseco’s twitter feed is totally postmodern

I am in the wigwam

They laughed at Galileo

More thoughts on gravity tomorrow

341 makeitstop  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:16:35am

‘Morning, Honcos!

I don’t technically have the day off today, but my wife does. So I’m tying up some loose ends and then we’re heading out to the Cradle of Aviation Museum here on Long Island.

We were going to go a few months ago, but the weather was warmer and we figured we’d save the museum for a cold day. Today is a cold day, so we’re going to go check it out.

342 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:18:04am

re: #340 dragonath

Woah, Jose Canseco’s twitter feed is totally postmodern

Are sure that’s not Charlie Sheen Twitter feed, because it sounds like it.

343 Flounder  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:21:17am

This poor 13 year old boy used to have to get up and eat a shit sandwich every day, because he has Tourette syndrome. He had to drop out of middle school because of the bullying. But he sure shred!
[Link: www.timesunion.com…]

From the article:

Playing guitar, especially as rapidly as Joey does, requires precision — something one might think would be missing from someone with a motor disorder. But the opposite is true: The joy of playing, concentration needed to play and absence of stress apparently block the youth’s Tourette symptoms from surfacing.

I wish him the best, as soon as wifey gets up I gotta show her. She trained for classical guitar for years, I think this kid was born with a guitar in his hands.

344 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:22:32am

This Day in History:

Feb 18, 1885:
Twain publishes The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn

On this day in 1885, Mark Twain publishes his famous—and famously controversial—novel The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn.

Twain (the pen name of Samuel Clemens) first introduced Huck Finn as the best friend of Tom Sawyer, hero of his tremendously successful novel The Adventures of Tom Sawyer (1876). Though Twain saw Huck’s story as a kind of sequel to his earlier book, the new novel was far more serious, focusing on the institution of slavery and other aspects of life in the antebellum South.

At the book’s heart is the journey of Huck and his friend Jim, a runaway slave, down the Mississippi River on a raft. Jim runs away because he is about to be sold and separated from his wife and children, and Huck goes with him to help him get to Ohio and freedom. Huck narrates the story in his distinctive voice, offering colorful descriptions of the people and places they encounter along the way. The most striking part of the book is its satirical look at racism, religion and other social attitudes of the time. While Jim is strong, brave, generous and wise, many of the white characters are portrayed as violent, stupid or simply selfish, and the naive Huck ends up questioning the hypocritical, unjust nature of society in general.

Even in 1885, two decades after the Emancipation Proclamation and the end of the Civil War, The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn landed with a splash. A month after its publication, a Concord, Massachusetts, library banned the book, calling its subject matter “tawdry” and its narrative voice “coarse” and “ignorant.” Other libraries followed suit, beginning a controversy that continued long after Twain’s death in 1910. In the 1950s, the book came under fire from African-American groups for being racist in its portrayal of black characters, despite the fact that it was seen by many as a strong criticism of racism and slavery. As recently as 1998, an Arizona parent sued her school district, claiming that making Twain’s novel required high school reading made already existing racial tensions even worse.

Aside from its controversial nature and its continuing popularity with young readers, The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn has been hailed by many serious literary critics as a masterpiece. No less a judge than Ernest Hemingway famously declared that the book marked the beginning of American literature: “There was nothing before. There has been nothing as good since.”

345 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:29:43am

Head-desking Wingnut FAIL. Wasn’t it Wayne LaPierre demanding “databases” of mentally ill?

346 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:35:08am

re: #339 Dark_Falcon

What they mean is that FDR wanted broad laws from that let his administration set policy, thus allowing the bureaucracy to set policy as a practical matter.

That’s great, Dark. Tell me, what part of the federal bureaucracy is outside the three branches of government?

347 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:35:40am

re: #345 Vicious Babushka

Head-desking Wingnut FAIL. Wasn’t it Wayne LaPierre demanding “databases” of mentally ill?

348 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:36:10am

re: #346 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

That’s great, Dark. Tell me, what part of the federal bureaucracy is outside the three branches of government?

None, really.

349 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:37:37am

I just posted a new page…

Happy Presidents Day - Here’s 99 Interesting Facts About US Presidents

A lot of info is there that I never knew. I love learning new things about the history of our country.

350 Lidane  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:37:49am

re: #345 Vicious Babushka

That guy is a fucking moron. Case in point:

I can haz anarchist to the ZOMG SEEKRIT MOOZLIM KENYAN ISLAMIST list?

Derp.

351 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:40:40am

re: #348 Dark_Falcon

None, really.

So their claim is completely fucking insanely stupid, since they’re claiming:

Roosevelt advocated shifting government powers away from the three constitutional branches of government and into a federal bureaucracy

They don’t have policy. They have propaganda. They are dishonest ideologues who bullshit earnestly.

352 Lidane  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:40:50am

The elites and intellectuals hate business, but I don’t mind taking their money in my overpriced, overrated grocery stores!

353 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:41:39am

DERPTY DERP

354 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:42:53am

re: #350 Lidane

That guy is a fucking moron. Case in point:

I can haz anarchist to the ZOMG SEEKRIT MOOZLIM KENYAN ISLAMIST list?

Derp.

Regardless about how one feels about the Community Reinvestment Act, to say that Obama was actively trying to destroy banks when Chicago UNO (which he was affiliated with back in the 1980’s) sued them under said act is to make an allegation wholly unsupported by the evidence. Richard Rivette is a fool, an ugly-minded, bigoted fool.

355 stabby  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:43:03am

re: #337 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

The Heritage foundation’s policies are also bullshit, founded on bullshit statistics, using bullshit theories.

Heritage used to sell tobacco is good for you, it doesn’t cause cancer and er, RomneyCare+mandate

Now they sell carbon dioxide is good for the planet, it doesn’t cause global warming and er ObamaCare+the mandate is a treasonous communist plot against capitalism

And among their methods are hundreds of twitterbots.

Policy, yeah that’s the ticket!

356 Dr. Matt  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:43:07am

re: #350 Lidane

Obama was not a community organizer. He’s an anarchist. Sued to force banks to destroy themselves. All part of the Communist rulebook. #tgdn
— Richard Rivette (@VoteRivette) February 18, 2013

The teabaggers sure know a lot about the “Communist rulebook”. Anyone have a copy of it?

357 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:43:53am

re: #356 Dr. Matt

The teabaggers sure know a lot about the “Communist rulebook”. Anyone have a copy of it?

It’s the Alinsky book. Wingnuts think it’s a LIBRUL BIBLE. Or something.

358 stabby  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:43:57am

Er I actually meant to quote and refer back to darkfalcon, but that works.

359 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:45:00am

This guy is a real neo-confed. Wonder if he knows how things turned out the last time.

360 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:45:31am

re: #356 Dr. Matt

The teabaggers sure know a lot about the “Communist rulebook”. Anyone have a copy of it?

You can get one on eBay for $23.94.

361 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:45:50am

re: #332 NJDhockeyfanand another was Jose Canseco
Heh.

Joe? Paranoid delusions cannot be demonstrated with math.

362 Dr. Matt  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:46:03am

re: #355 stabby

Heritage used to sell tobacco is good for you, it doesn’t cause cancer and er, RomneyCare+mandate

How can tobacco be bad with THIS endorsement??!?

363 Dr. Matt  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:47:08am

re: #357 Vicious Babushka

It’s the Alinsky book. Wingnuts think it’s a LIBRUL BIBLE. Or something.

Ah, the “Alinsky book” that supposedly all libruls follow but I have yet to meet a liberal who has actually read it.

364 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:47:47am

re: #362 Dr. Matt

How can tobacco be bad with THIS endorsement??!?

Chesterfield? My grandparents smoked those…unfiltered!

365 stabby  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:50:18am

re: #363 Dr. Matt

Well all of the communists must have read it, otherwise how would they know that they’re supposed to take over all of the Universities, the media, the government and er, the dog catcher?

366 Gus  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:51:31am

Evil, evil, tobacco lobbyists! Pretty outrageous. Let’s end the war on drugs and legalize all drugs!

367 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:52:06am

Uh oh…here we go again…

Focus on Nigeria Islamic extremist groups as 7 foreign workers held captive

BAUCHI, NIGERIA Gunmen attacked a camp for a construction company in rural northern Nigeria, killing a guard and kidnapping seven foreign workers from Britain, Greece, Italy, Lebanon and the Philippines, authorities said Sunday, in the biggest kidnapping yet in a region under attack by Islamic extremists.

The attack Saturday night happened in Jama’are, a town in Bauchi state. There, the gunmen first attacked a local prison, burning two police trucks, Bauchi state police spokesman Hassan Muhammed told The Associated Press.

The gunmen then targeted a workers’ camp for Lebanese construction company Setraco, which is building a road in the area, Muhammed said. The gunmen shot dead a guard at the camp before kidnapping the foreign workers, the spokesman said.

“The gunmen came with explosives, which they used to break some areas,” Muhammed said. He did not elaborate and an AP journalist could not immediately reach the town, which is about 125 miles north of the state capital, Bauchi.

368 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:52:20am

re: #352 Lidane

I’m sure Adam Smith, von Mises and Milton Friedman would be surprised to hear that.

369 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:53:39am

re: #359 Vicious Babushka

This guy is a real neo-confed. Wonder if he knows how things turned out the last time.

370 Dr. Matt  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:54:03am

re: #364 NJDhockeyfan

Chesterfield? My grandparents smoked those…unfiltered!

They should have smoked Pall Malls…to prevent “throat-scratch”.

371 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:54:27am

Because that worked out so well the last time.

372 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:54:31am

re: #370 Dr. Matt

They should have smoked Pall Malls…to prevent “throat-scratch”.

LOL!

373 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:54:40am

re: #366 Gus

Evil, evil, tobacco lobbyists! Pretty outrageous. Let’s end the war on drugs and legalize all drugs!

Let’s just legalize whippets. Hell, let’s make them mandatory.

374 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:54:56am

Wait, I guess whippets aren’t even illegal.

My bad.

375 Gus  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:55:20am

Uh oh. Looks like Alec Baldwin might get his Liberal Card revoked.

376 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:55:28am

re: #373 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Let’s just legalize whippets. Hell, let’s make them mandatory.

The Cat Overlords would not approve.

377 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:55:54am

re: #375 Gus

Uh oh. Looks like Alec Baldwin might get his Liberal Card revoked.

What DERP! did he fart out now?

378 makeitstop  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:56:17am

re: #344 NJDhockeyfan

This Day in History:

Feb 18, 1885:
Twain publishes The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn

I read an interesting story in Smithsonian the other day about the origin of the name Tom Sawyer. Twain later denied this story, saying he never knew anyone by that name.

379 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:56:20am

re: #375 Gus

Uh oh. Looks like Alec Baldwin might get his Liberal Card revoked.

From this?

Actor Alec Baldwin allegedly called a black Post photographer a racial epithet, a “crackhead” and a “drug dealer” during a confrontation on an East Village street yesterday morning, prompting police to intervene.

380 Gus  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:56:39am

re: #373 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Let’s just legalize whippets. Hell, let’s make them mandatory.

I think it’s funny. FDR was smoker. What can I say. I find the anti-tobacco people to be a rather annoying bunch.

381 Lidane  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:56:55am

re: #371 Vicious Babushka

Because that worked out so well the last time.

Also, doesn’t the military count as a bunch of government employees?

LOL @ this Keyboard Kommando. He’d get squished like an ant in the real world if he tried armed insurrection.

382 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:57:31am

re: #371 Vicious Babushka

Because that worked out so well the last time.

Have you noticed that these loons figure that the people they want to kill will just stand there and take it? That their potential victims are too weak and stupid to fight back?

It’s another way they resemble the Fascists that are their intellectual ancestors. The Nazis and the Japanese military (mostly the army in the latter case) were weak and beating them would be easy.

Look how that turned out.

383 Gus  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:57:48am

re: #379 NJDhockeyfan

From this?

Yep. Although I don’t agree that it was a racial epithet. Calling someone a crackhead can be done to anyone. But you know how liberals get.

384 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:58:11am

re: #381 Lidane

Also, doesn’t the military count as a bunch of government employees?

LOL @ this Keyboard Kommando. He’d get squished like an ant in the real world if he tried armed insurrection.

I’d also not count the FBI as “Ill Trained” nor the US Marshals.

385 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:58:27am

re: #380 Gus

I think it’s funny. FDR was smoker. What can I say. I find the anti-tobacco to be a rather annoying bunch.

I’m not sure what you mean. Smoking’s a terrible habit and anyone who can avoid it is doing a good job. Those who promote it and profit off of it are unethical, in my view, but criminalizing it wouldn’t do much good. Groups like Heritage that spread denialist propaganda minimizing the risks and provided political cover for the industry are shitty and lame. People who angrily glare at smokers as though they’re sinful are stupid an short-sighted.

it’s all a rich tapestry.

386 Gus  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:58:59am

re: #385 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

I’m not sure what you mean. Smoking’s a terrible habit and anyone who can avoid it is doing a good job. Those who promote it and profit off of it are unethical, in my view, but criminalizing it wouldn’t do much good. Groups like Heritage that spread denialist propaganda minimizing the risks and provided political cover for the industry are shitty and lame. People who angrily glare at smokers as though they’re sinful are stupid an short-sighted.

it’s all a rich tapestry.

OK, thanks.

387 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:59:20am

re: #383 Gus

Yep. Although I don’t agree that it was a racial epithet. Calling someone a crackhead can be done to anyone. But you know how liberals get.

But if someone right of center had done that, we’d all be calling him out for a ‘dog whistle’ at least. So what is the difference?

388 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:59:41am

re: #383 Gus

Yep. Although I don’t agree that it was a racial epithet. Calling someone a crackhead can be done to anyone. But you know how liberals get.

The article says he called the photographer a ‘coon’.

389 Gus  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:59:54am

Another day of outrageous outrage on Twitter with people getting all hysterical about crap an peeing in their pants.

390 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:00:11am

re: #383 Gus

Yep. Although I don’t agree that it was a racial epithet. Calling someone a crackhead can be done to anyone. But you know how liberals get.

I think he said a little more than just ‘crackhead’.

The “30 Rock’’ star grabbed the reporter, Tara Palmeri, by her arm and told her, “I want you to choke to death,” Palmeri told police, for whom she played an audiotape of the conversation.

He then called G.N. Miller — a decorated retired detective with the NYPD’s Organized Crime Control Bureau and a staff photographer for The Post — a “coon, a drug dealer,’’ Miller’s police statement said.

At one point, Miller showed Baldwin ID to prove he’s a retired NYPD cop, which Baldwin dismissed as “fake.”

391 Gus  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:00:29am

re: #388 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

The article says he called the photographer a ‘coon’.

Oh. Didn’t see that.

392 stabby  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:00:33am

re: #366 Gus

People paying fake scientists to lie for decades on end is certainly a viable definition of evil.

You don’t agree?

393 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:01:27am

re: #390 NJDhockeyfan

I think he said a little more than just ‘crackhead’.

If he used the word ‘coon’, then he deserves to catch Hell for it. Because that’s not a dog whistle, that’s blatant racism right there.

394 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:01:48am

re: #389 Gus

Another day of outrageous outrage on Twitter with people getting all hysterical about crap an peeing in their pants.

Maybe we should invent the anti-twitter. The twoot. All twoots 14000 character minimum length and peer-reviewed.

395 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:02:47am

re: #393 Dark_Falcon

If he used the word ‘coon’, then he deserves to catch Hell for it. Because that’s not a dog whistle, that’s blatant racism right there.

There’s a recording, apparently, so the truth will hopefully out.

And god I’d hate to be a celebrity. Not in the least bit excusing what Baldwin did (assuming he did it) but goddamn it I’d hate for random people to be yelling questions at me and trying to take my picture. Would drive me fucking insane.

396 Gus  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:04:45am

re: #395 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

There’s a recording, apparently, so the truth will hopefully out.

And god I’d hate to be a celebrity. Not in the least bit excusing what Baldwin did but goddamn it I’d hate for random people to be yelling questions at me and trying to take my picture. Would drive me fucking insane.

Now the question becomes. If it’s true will the liberals give him a free pass or will they attempt to destroy him if he were conservative?

397 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:08:25am

re: #395 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

There’s a recording, apparently, so the truth will hopefully out.

And god I’d hate to be a celebrity. Not in the least bit excusing what Baldwin did but goddamn it I’d hate for random people to be yelling questions at me and trying to take my picture. Would drive me fucking insane.

They should pass the Steven Tyler Act like they are in the process of doing in Hawaii.

398 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:08:26am

re: #380 Gus

I think it’s funny. FDR was smoker. What can I say. I find the anti-tobacco people to be a rather annoying bunch.

To me it’s a symptom of what I call “The Great American Neurosis.” Simply put, we’re scared shitless of death. It’s especially frightening for North Americans because we have an innate belief in our power.

A power that death puts the lie to. We can’t do anything about death.

So some of us behave in odd ways. It’s why some get obsessive about exercising, food…and tobacco. They believe that if they can just live right and get rid of anything that might make them ill then they’ll live forever. Of course other people must be forced to live right because the good people will be infected by the bad if the good do nothing.

The reason I think this is because of our monsters. That is those frightening avatars that appear in the popular media.

The first modern monster was Frankenstein’s, a monster created by science when science scared people.

The next popular monsters, in the Victorian era, were Mr. Hyde and Dracula. These were distinctly sexual monsters at a time when sex was something that good people were scared of.

Now our monsters are killers. Saw, Freddy, Jason; all killers. In the Final Destination movies death itself became a sentient murderer.

Our fear of death is mirrored in our monsters and our obsession with things that might kill us.

399 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:08:34am

re: #396 Gus

Now the question becomes. If it’s true will the liberals give him a free pass or will they attempt to destroy him if he were conservative?

“The liberals” probably won’t do anything, since they’re not a coherent group. If he really said racist shit and acted like this much of a jackass, he’ll come in for plenty of criticism from people on the ‘left’. I’m not sure in what way you think ‘the liberals’ would try to ‘destroy’ him. Perhaps with the ritual of Ash K’Ente and finding his phylactery?

400 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:09:31am

re: #396 Gus

Now the question becomes. If it’s true will the liberals give him a free pass or will they attempt to destroy him if he were conservative?

If they give him a pass, then conservatives will be using their having done so as a club with which to beat them for years.

My own feeling, independent of politics: Alec Baldwin needs to be publicly shamed for his actions. It is never acceptable to refer to a black person with the racial pejorative ‘coon’.

401 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:09:45am

re: #398 Romantic Heretic

Fear of death is at least a metric fuck-ton more rational than a fear of sex.

That’s an imperial metric fuck-ton, by the way.

403 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:11:21am

re: #399 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

“The liberals” probably won’t do anything, since they’re not a coherent group. If he really said racist shit and acted like this much of a jackass, he’ll come in for plenty of criticism from people on the ‘left’. I’m not sure in what way you think ‘the liberals’ would try to ‘destroy’ him. Perhaps with the ritual of Ash K’Ente and finding his phylactery?

He’s not a Litch, Obdi. He’s just a Babbling Liberal Actor, a Level 6 DERPer NPC.

/D&D Geekage.

404 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:11:39am

re: #400 Dark_Falcon

What I’m most confused about is why he called him Ralston. It’s a cool name and all, but weird to just pull out of a hat.

405 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:11:59am

re: #401 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Fear of death is at least a metric fuck-ton more rational than a fear of sex.

That’s an imperial metric fuck-ton, by the way.

I’m not that frightened of death. I suppose it has something to do with hanging from my own belt at one point in my life.

Death is a fact of life and it comes to everyone great and small. No sense fretting about it.

406 Gus  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:13:02am
407 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:13:24am

re: #402 NJDhockeyfan

Alec Baldwin ‘should be banned from TV, movies’, NY senator says

Not actually banned, which is good, ‘cuz that’s not, y’know, possible:

If these allegations are true, then no television network or film studio should hire the veteran actor until he seeks help

408 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:14:28am

re: #406 Gus

On an official level?

[NY State Senator Malcom] Smith has now explained that he does not think Hollywood should help Baldwin’s career if the fight took place.

“If these allegations are true, then no television network or film studio should hire the veteran actor until he seeks help,” he said. “In today’s modern age it’s a disgrace that people still use remarks that provide hatred to others based on race or origin.”

Smith has also revealed that he will ask NBC to force the actor to take anger management courses. Baldwin has a two-year television deal with Universal.

[Link: www.digitalspy.com…]

409 Gus  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:14:51am

re: #403 Dark_Falcon

He’s not a Litch, Obdi. He’s just a Babbling Liberal Actor, a Level 6 DERPer NPC.

/D&D Geekage.

No, I’m not stupid. We’re allowed to say “the conservatives” here but we are not allowed to say “the liberals.”

410 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:15:24am

re: #405 Romantic Heretic

I’m not that frightened of death. I suppose it has something to do with hanging from my own belt at one point in my life.

Death is a fact of life and it comes to everyone great and small. No sense fretting about it.

Mandatory for this discussion:

411 Iwouldprefernotto  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:15:32am

re: #407 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Not actually banned, which is good, ‘cuz that’s not, y’know, possible:

If these allegations are true, then no television network or film studio should hire the veteran actor until he seeks help.

What’s the key word in the above sentence…

412 Gus  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:15:41am

re: #399 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

“The liberals” probably won’t do anything, since they’re not a coherent group. If he really said racist shit and acted like this much of a jackass, he’ll come in for plenty of criticism from people on the ‘left’. I’m not sure in what way you think ‘the liberals’ would try to ‘destroy’ him. Perhaps with the ritual of Ash K’Ente and finding his phylactery?

Here, try this:

“The conservatives” probably won’t do anything, since they’re not a coherent group.

Agree?

413 makeitstop  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:15:51am

Poor MBF doesn’t get President’s Day off, due to Baldwin being an asshole.

414 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:15:59am

re: #409 Gus

No, I’m not stupid. We’re allowed to say “the conservatives” here but we are not allowed to say “the liberals.”

I think you quoted the wrong comment, Gus.

415 Lidane  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:16:13am

Orly Taitz and her minions are laying the groundwork for when SCOTUS ignores them:

[Link: webcache.googleusercontent.com…]

Link goes to a “press release” alleging that employees of SCOTUS are withholding documents from the Justices.

416 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:16:17am

re: #395 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

I’d hate for random people to be yelling questions at me and trying to take my picture. Would drive me fucking insane.

I would be the kind of recluse that everyone thinks is saving his urine in labeled mason jars. Not that I ever have to worry about being even slightly famous, anyway.

And apparently, no level of celebrity is too minor for stalkers:

Well, today, a shitbag decided to intrude on our private vacation. He set himself up on the beach where we’re staying, pulled out a telephoto lens, and decided to take pictures of us for hours this morning.

I saw this guy around 10 this morning, and I thought to myself, “No, that guy isn’t taking my picture; I’m just being paranoid. Nobody cares about me enough to camp out on a beach and take that kind of paparazzi picture.”

[… snip …]

I was furious that this piece of shit would spend hours sitting on a beach, taking I don’t even know how many pictures of us, and then have the audacity to tell me that I should just go home if I didn’t like it. Like I was in the wrong for expecting to enjoy some time on the beach without some fucking creep using a telephoto lens to take pictures of me.

While I ate my sandwich (SO GOOD OMG) and finished my Bikini Blonde Lager, I hatched a scheme: Anne and I would render this subhuman pile of shit’s photos worthless (more worthless than they already are, because who gives a fuck about me in a bathing suit) by taking pictures of ourselves and posting them on Twitter.

So that’s what we did. And now I’m posting them here.

417 stabby  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:16:34am

I’m always annoyed by the phrase “seeks help”

Psychologists are just our society’s version of witch doctors. They don’t actually help people, they’re a placebo, empty placeholder for helping for situations where we haven’t the slightest clue of any way to help.

418 Gus  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:16:44am

re: #414 Dark_Falcon

I think you quoted the wrong comment, Gus.

Eh. I’m out.

419 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:17:11am

re: #413 makeitstop

Poor MBF doesn’t get President’s Day off, due to Baldwin being an asshole.

A holiday with kids out of school? Hell, that’s a busy work day for a fairy!

420 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:17:28am

re: #409 Gus

No, I’m not stupid. We’re allowed to say “the conservatives” here but we are not allowed to say “the liberals.”

Ah, fuck, Gus, it’s going to be another one of those mornings, huh?

I’m out. Have fun.

421 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:18:08am

re: #412 Gus

Here, try this:

“The conservatives” probably won’t do anything, since they’re not a coherent group.

Agree?

Yep. I agree.

422 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:18:15am

re: #415 Lidane

Orly Taitz and her minions are laying the groundwork for when SCOTUS ignores them:

Link goes to a “press release” alleging that employees of SCOTUS are withholding documents from the Justices.

Veronica Coffin is on my “TGDN racists” list for linking white supremacist sites. Just thought you would want to know. I don’t know if the site that is linked in that tweet is a WS site but it sure is a whackjob conspiracy site.

423 Lidane  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:18:19am

The derp is strong with this one:

I don’t live in Chicago, but I doubt the police chief said anything like that.

424 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:18:32am

I think the thread just got broken.

425 Lidane  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:19:47am

re: #422 Vicious Babushka

Veronica Coffin is on my “TGDN racists” list for linking white supremacist sites. Just thought you would want to know. I don’t know if the site that is linked in that tweet is a WS site but it sure is a whackjob conspiracy site.

Ah, shit. I hope it’s not a supremacist site.

Also, why doesn’t it surprise me that that Twitter person is an open racist? Birthers usually are.

426 Mattand  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:19:48am

re: #423 Lidane

The derp is strong with this one:

I don’t live in Chicago, but I doubt the police chief said anything like that.

If he did, I’d be hard pressed to disagree with him.

427 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:19:58am

re: #424 Dark_Falcon

I think the thread just got broken.

*sigh* Give me a sec to grab the duct tape…

428 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:21:15am

re: #425 Lidane

Ah, shit. I hope it’s not a supremacist site.

Also, why doesn’t it surprise me that that Twitter person is an open racist? Birthers usually are.

Charles asked not to embed Tweets that link to openly racist sites. Either take a screencap of the Tweet or link directly to Twitter, do not embed. It can cause problems with the ad servers.

429 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:21:47am

re: #423 Lidane

The derp is strong with this one:

I don’t live in Chicago, but I doubt the police chief said anything like that.

He didn’t say that, what he said was that he thought the 2nd Amendment only protects flintlock smoothbores. He said it somewhat facetiously, though it’s still a FAIL in my eyes (rifles were well established at the time of the Revolution).

430 Lidane  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:23:01am

re: #428 Vicious Babushka

Charles asked not to embed Tweets that link to openly racist sites. Either take a screencap of the Tweet or link directly to Twitter, do not embed. It can cause problems with the ad servers.

I got rid of the tweet and replaced it with a Google cache link to the “press release”.

431 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:23:36am

I need to work more Sunday to Monday holiday overnights

That was one of the quickest and quietest “the long quiet drive home”s I’ve had in a long time

432 A Mom Anon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:25:10am

re: #417 stabby

I’m not sure you’d feel that way if someone you loved was helped by a great therapist. I agree that there’s bad in that profession, but if you do the homework, there are good people out there doing a job that’s difficult at best, because they want to help. It’s not quackery to have someone to talk to and work through problems if you feel alone, afraid and dysfunctional.

433 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:25:20am

re: #364 NJDhockeyfan

Chesterfield? My grandparents smoked those…unfiltered!

My mom smoked those (dad smoked L & M’s , filtered)

I started smoking by taking one from each every day

434 Lidane  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:25:23am

Oh, this should be fun. Caribou Barbie is going to offer up another word salad at CPAC this year:

[Link: conservative.org…]

435 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:26:16am

re: #394 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Maybe we should invent the anti-twitter. The twoot. All twoots 14000 character minimum length and peer-reviewed.

How about calling it the “Twuut” since most of the reaction is if of vein of “what the hell?” anyways.

436 A Mom Anon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:26:35am

re: #434 Lidane

No. Just no. I won’t look, and you can’t make me. (lol)

437 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:28:25am

re: #405 Romantic Heretic

I’m not that frightened of death. I suppose it has something to do with hanging from my own belt at one point in my life.

Death is a fact of life and it comes to everyone great and small. No sense fretting about it.

Does it matter whether or not it talks to you in ALL CAPS when it shows up?

438 Lidane  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:28:42am

Orly Taitz is going for a post-modern legal argument before SCOTUS. From her press release linked above:

Barack Obama cannot serve as a U.S. President as the legal entity Barack Obama does not exist.

Who knew? Heh.

439 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:30:47am

re: #438 Lidane

Orly Taitz is going for a post-modern legal argument before SCOTUS. From her press release linked above:

Who knew? Heh.

Whoa, that’s deep man. Pass the bong.

//

440 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:31:10am

re: #437 Feline Fearless Leader

Does it matter whether or not it talks to you in ALL CAPS when it shows up?

How do you know he has all caps! Did you speak to his dentist??
/

441 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:35:44am

DERP. FAIL. DERANGED.

442 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:38:12am

re: #438 Lidane

Orly Taitz is going for a post-modern legal argument before SCOTUS. From her press release linked above:

Who knew? Heh.

Which is why the SCOTUS clerk are being alleged to be ‘hiding documents’ from the justices:

The clerks are worried that if the justices were to actually read Taitz’s DERPs they’d die laughing.

443 Lidane  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:39:51am

Derp:

444 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:40:38am

U.S. heir wins back artworks taken by Nazis

France returns seven paintings to two families, largest number returned in over a decade.

445 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:41:55am

Godwin Derp.

446 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:43:24am

Ulysses will probably block me when it sees it got on the Derp list.

447 Lidane  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:43:34am

re: #445 Vicious Babushka

Because gun control laws are exactly like the Holocaust. Really.

WTF. These people are deranged.

448 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:44:22am

Someone ‘splain to me why I would want/ need to TWEET!?!?

I don’t care/ need to know which restaurant a friend of mine is at for breakfast NOR what they may be ordering! Hell, when I’m out to eat with them I don’t even care what they order
I don’t care/ need to know what moronic thing you have to pass along, that was passed along to you, that was passed along to the person that passed it along to them, that was passed along from ,,,,,,,
I don’t want/ need to “FOLLOW” someone
I don’t want/ need someone to “FOLLOW” ME!
(aren’t those the definition of stalking, btw!)

AND ,, for all the above,,, I get to pay EXTRA for it on my wireless phone bill!!

JOY!!

449 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:44:49am

re: #447 Lidane

Because gun control laws are exactly like the Holocaust. Really.

WTF. These people are deranged.

TEH HOLOCAUST ONLY BECAME POSSIBLE AFTER THEY PASSED GUN CONTROL LAWS!1!1ty

450 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:46:42am

re: #446 Vicious Babushka

Ulysses will probably block me when it sees it got on the Derp list.

Where is the DERP list kept?

451 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:46:57am

Because not being allowed to own an AR-15 is exactly like 1950’s segregation, LOLWHUT

452 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:47:42am

Extra special wingnut points for the Godwinning Twitter handle. Asshat.

453 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:48:21am

*FACE PALM*

454 stabby  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:48:43am

re: #451 Vicious Babushka

She needs an assault rifle because they won’t pay her for the photoshoot without one.

455 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:50:47am

re: #454 stabby

She needs an assault rifle because they won’t pay her for the photoshoot without one.

Poor thing, with her torn Daisy Dukes. Probably works for < minimum wage at some Walmart.

456 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:51:44am

re: #453 Vicious Babushka

*FACE PALM*

The reply is true. Just because is heir are assholes doesn’t mean that the depiction of Sam Walton is wrong.

457 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:52:37am

re: #456 Dark_Falcon

The reply is true. Just because is heir are assholes doesn’t mean that the depiction of Sam Walton is wrong.

A lot of the robber barons of the 1800’s started out with nothing so what is your freaking point?

458 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:54:26am

re: #457 Vicious Babushka

A lot of the robber barons of the 1800’s started out with nothing so what is your freaking point?

That neither of the two tweets in your #453 are face palm worthy.

459 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:55:00am

Sam Walton was a robber baron!?!?
I did not know that!

460 Mattand  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:57:56am

re: #448 sattv4u2

Someone ‘splain to me why I would want/ need to TWEET!?!?

I don’t care/ need to know which restaurant a friend of mine is at for breakfast NOR what they may be ordering! Hell, when I’m out to eat with them I don’t even care what they order
I don’t care/ need to know what moronic thing you have to pass along, that was passed along to you, that was passed along to the person that passed it along to them, that was passed along from ,,,,,,,
I don’t want/ need to “FOLLOW” someone
I don’t want/ need someone to “FOLLOW” ME!
(aren’t those the definition of stalking, btw!)

AND ,, for all the above,,, I get to pay EXTRA for it on my wireless phone bill!!

JOY!!

LOL, it probably for the best. Given your writing style and the 140 character limit, most of your tweets would consist of maybe three words and 110 commas and periods.

461 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:58:22am

re: #460 Mattand

LOL, it probably for the best. Given your writing style and the 140 character limit, most of your tweets would consist of maybe three words and 110 commas and periods.

,,,, huh,,,,???,,,,

462 Lidane  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:58:29am

God apparently likes the scenery on the Appalachian Trail:

Mark Sanford political ad appeals to ‘God of second chances’

Former Gov. Mark Sanford is up with his first TV ad in his bid for South Carolina’s 1st congressional district, appealing to voters and a “God of second chances.”

“I’ve experienced how none of us go through life without mistakes. But in their wake we can learn a lot about grace, a God of second chances and be the better for it,” Sanford says in the ad.

It’s all part of a campaign to rehabilitate his political career after it seemed to end in scandal. When he was governor, Sanford disappeared for days, with staff first saying he was hiking the Appalachian Trail before Sanford himself acknowledged he had in fact gone to Argentina to visit his mistress.

Sanford was married at the time — and he used taxpayer money to pay for another trip to South America when he visited his lover. He eventually reimbursed the state for the costs.

Sanford is now engaged to the Argentine woman, Maria Belen Chapur.

463 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:59:02am

re: #448 sattv4u2

It’s all about what your expectations are. I mean, “Titty Boobowitz” is on Twitter,

but so is the commander of the ISS.

464 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:59:54am

re: #460 Mattand

LOL, it probably for the best. Given your writing style and the 140 character limit, most of your tweets would consist of maybe three words and 110 commas and periods.

Seriously though. I know I typed it with a jesters edge to it, but from what I’ve seen I’d rather read billboards as I drive down the highway instead of checking out what someone tweeted about their baby’s 1st drool or who they hate politically

465 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:01:57am

re: #463 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

It’s all about what your expectations are. I mean, “Titty Boobowitz” is on Twitter,

I’ve seen Grand Rapids at night from the air,,, LIVE ,, and not on a 4 inch screen

As for the 1st one, my point EXACTICALLY!!!

466 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:02:20am

Michael Moore says he wants to visit Iran, with or without an invitation

TEHRAN – Mehr News quotes the controversial American filmmaker as telling another Iranian outlet that he would visit the country, even without an official invitation:

Moore in his latest interview with Mehrnameh magazine said “when the news of my visit to Iran was published a few years ago, the right-wing media in the US began to take a position and published some very critical and hateful articles, they even published faked news about me. So I thought I should postpone visiting Iran to another time.”

Michael Moore continued “they explained to me that my style has many advocates in Iran. So obviously I was happy. I am now waiting for an opportunity to travel to Iran. Even if they do not invite me this time I will go anyway.”

Apparently, no one told Mehr News (or Michael Moore, for that matter) that as an American you can’t just show up in Iran uninvited. The country maintains a very defined process to get a visa to visit, with clear limitations and extra hoops for Americans to jump through.

Either Moore isn’t aware of the rules or thinks they don’t apply to him. Every American I’ve ever met here, though, had to go through the paper-heavy visa process.

467 Lidane  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:02:44am

Yes,Virginia. The GOP’s problem is that not enough white people voted for them:

Image: racistderp.png

*facepalm*

468 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:06:44am

re: #466 NJDhockeyfan

Michael Moore says he wants to visit Iran, with or without an invitation

Apparently, no one told Mehr News (or Michael Moore, for that matter) that as an American you can’t just show up in Iran uninvited. The country maintains a very defined process to get a visa to visit, with clear limitations and extra hoops for Americans to jump through.

Either Moore isn’t aware of the rules or thinks they don’t apply to him. Every American I’ve ever met here, though, had to go through the paper-heavy visa process.

If he cared about reality, he wouldn’t be Michael Moore.

469 A Mom Anon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:07:46am

re: #467 Lidane

Tee to the Hee. Let ‘em think that, I hope they run with that one. Go! Go! Go!

470 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:09:25am

re: #466 NJDhockeyfan

Michael Moore says he wants to visit Iran, with or without an invitation

Apparently, no one told Mehr News (or Michael Moore, for that matter) that as an American you can’t just show up in Iran uninvited. The country maintains a very defined process to get a visa to visit, with clear limitations and extra hoops for Americans to jump through.

Either Moore isn’t aware of the rules or thinks they don’t apply to him. Every American I’ve ever met here, though, had to go through the paper-heavy visa process.

lol

471 Mattand  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:09:49am

re: #464 sattv4u2

Seriously though. I know I typed it with a jesters edge to it, but from what I’ve seen I’d rather read billboards as I drive down the highway instead of checking out what someone tweeted about their baby’s 1st drool or who they hate politically

Well, hopefully you’re not looking at your smartphone while you’re driving.

I think you’re selling Twitter way short. For all of its frivolous uses, Twitter has become a go-to method for distributing info quickly and efficiently. Its use during the Arab Spring is a prime example of its utility.

472 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:13:51am

Heh. Not too shabby for someone the wingnuts have labeled “rabid Anti-Semite”

473 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:15:42am

re: #466 NJDhockeyfan

Either Moore isn’t aware of the rules or thinks they don’t apply to him. Every American I’ve ever met here, though, had to go through the paper-heavy visa process.

In that he had planned on going there in the past ((“So I thought I should postpone visiting Iran to another time.”)) maybe he had already started that paper- heavy process

474 Lidane  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:15:59am

re: #472 Vicious Babushka

Heh. Not too shabby for someone the wingnuts have labeled “rabid Anti-Semite”

Cue the nutter conspiracies about Obama threatening Netanyahu in 3…2…1…

475 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:17:11am

re: #471 Mattand

Well, hopefully you’re not looking at your smartphone while you’re driving.

Yeah, cause that’s unheard of!!!


For all of its frivolous uses, Twitter has become a go-to method for distributing info quickly and efficiently.


I can wait for the noon news. If I miss it, it’s on again at 6 p.m., then again at 11 p.m. then again at ,,,,,

476 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:17:20am

re: #467 Lidane

Yes,Virginia. The GOP’s problem is that not enough white people voted for them:

Image: racistderp.png

*facepalm*

That’s funny, I thought all the boasting after Election Night was that Romney had met/exceeded the total white vote that Reagan won?

477 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:17:25am

re: #473 sattv4u2

Either Moore isn’t aware of the rules or thinks they don’t apply to him. Every American I’ve ever met here, though, had to go through the paper-heavy visa process.

In that he had planned on going there in the past ((“So I thought I should postpone visiting Iran to another time.”)) maybe he had already started that paper- heavy process

I wonder why he wants to go to Iran? I doesn’t say why.

478 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:18:56am

re: #477 NJDhockeyfan

I wonder why he wants to go to Iran? I doesn’t say why.

I don;t care
I hope he has a nice time and a safe trip to and from

And after it’s done, I still won’t care

479 Lidane  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:19:56am

It’s all SpongeBob’s fault!

480 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:24:12am

re: #477 NJDhockeyfan

I wonder why he wants to go to Iran? I doesn’t say why.

Just general moonbattery. He’s been going on about the opressive Obama regime, drones, assasinations, detainment etc, lately. Expressing solidarity with the mullahs in Iran ia just the moonbat way of maintaining radical street credibility.

481 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:26:18am

re: #480 Killgore Trout

Just general moonbattery. He’s been going on about the opressive Obama regime, drones, assasinations, detainment etc, lately. Expressing solidarity with the mullahs in Iran ia just the moonbat way of maintaining radical street credibility.

And i’m sure he’ll come back with video of the poorest of the poor children without any food because of the US led sanctions

((he won;t come back with video of how the mullahs of ShortShit live though))

482 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:33:04am

This wingnut has just been derpin’ up a storm.

483 Gus  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:39:17am

re: #480 Killgore Trout

Just general moonbattery. He’s been going on about the opressive Obama regime, drones, assasinations, detainment etc, lately. Expressing solidarity with the mullahs in Iran ia just the moonbat way of maintaining radical street credibility.

Yeah, now that the election has passed he’ll no doubt be going back to his old ways. Which reminds me. You ever notice how outfits like Al Jazeera and Press TV are always pointing out things like “poverty in America” or “racism in America” while totally ignoring poverty, racism and other problems within their own regions? Pravda was notorious for that.

484 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:41:04am

re: #483 Gus

Yeah, now that the election has passed he’ll no doubt be going back to his old ways. Which reminds me. You ever notice how outfits like Al Jazeera and Press TV are always pointing out things like “poverty in America” or “racism in America” while totally ignoring poverty, racism and other problems within their own regions? Pravda was notorious for that.

Thats because, as I stated in 481, THEIR poverty isn’t of their doing nor their governments. It’s because of the west/ Zionist control of THE WORLD!!

485 Gus  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:42:21am

re: #484 sattv4u2

Thats because, as I stated in 481, THEIR poverty isn’t of their doing nor their governments. It’s because of the west/ Zionist control of THE WORLD!!

Well yeah. It’s just a propaganda tool. Builds fear and fuels more anti-Americanism. Their politicians love it, “see how bad things are in America!”

486 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:44:22am

re: #483 Gus

Yeah, now that the election has passed he’ll no doubt be going back to his old ways. Which reminds me. You ever notice how outfits like Al Jazeera and Press TV are always pointing out things like “poverty in America” or “racism in America” while totally ignoring poverty, racism and other problems within their own regions? Pravda was notorious for that.

The hostile foreign governments love the propaganda value of lefties babbling on about the American police state, Western colonialism, the evils of capitalism. There’s always a useful idiot on hand to provide the propaganda for them.

487 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:48:12am

re: #486 Killgore Trout

The hostile foreign governments love the propaganda value of lefties babbling on about the American police state, Western colonialism, the evils of capitalism. There’s always a useful idiot on hand to provide the propaganda for them.

If you could see the things that I see. People in studios here in the states being interviewed by foreign news orgs about the evils of all you mentioned

Two in particular (don’t know their names because all I hear is their answers, not the questioners) are constantly droning on about how (and I quote) THOUSANDS of young black men are getting shot down in the street by police and “it goes unreported in the US press”

488 Gus  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:48:14am

re: #486 Killgore Trout

The hostile foreign governments love the propaganda value of lefties babbling on about the American police state, Western colonialism, the evils of capitalism. There’s always a useful idiot on hand to provide the propaganda for them.

On a more sinister level the KGB was once rather active in infiltrating American groups in the late 60s.

489 Gus  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:54:51am

re: #487 sattv4u2

If you could see the things that I see. People in studios here in the states being interviewed by foreign news orgs about the evils of all you mentioned

Two in particular (don’t know their names because all I hear is their answers, not the questioners) are constantly droning on about how (and I quote) THOUSANDS of young black men are getting shot down in the street by police and “it goes unreported in the US press”

But hey. Qatari owned Al Jazeera. A nation that has imprisoned a poet to life for criticizing the government. Their climate change coverage is really good. That’s cool.

//

490 Political Atheist  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:56:10am

Pssst. The seekrit Muslim President strikes again. No, um wait a sec….

491 Gus  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:57:58am

re: #490 Political Atheist

Pssst. The seekrit Muslim President strikes again. No, um wait a sec….

Lies!

492 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:58:03am

re: #482 Vicious Babushka

This wingnut has just been derpin’ up a storm.

The liberal goal is to completely disarm and dicate terms to the rest of us, to form a tyrannical non-representative govt. Like Stalin.#tgdn
— Richard Rivette (@VoteRivette) February 18, 2013

And the conservatives want to turn us into a totalitarian, theocracy just like Iran. I guess with decisions like that I don’t want either side to win. Good thing I can actually see for myself which side is truly pushing for what supposedly each side wants.

493 Gus  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:59:07am

Woomp. There it is.

//

494 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:59:39am

re: #493 Gus

Woomp. There it is.

//

{sigh}

495 Gus  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 10:00:11am

re: #494 sattv4u2

{sigh}

I know, right. Funny considering what I said earlier. But I’m the bad guy.

496 HoosierHoops  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 10:01:10am

re: #475 sattv4u2

Well, hopefully you’re not looking at your smartphone while you’re driving.

Yeah, cause that’s unheard of!!!


For all of its frivolous uses, Twitter has become a go-to method for distributing info quickly and efficiently.

I can wait for the noon news. If I miss it, it’s on again at 6 p.m., then again at 11 p.m. then again at ,,,,,

I’m not sure about your complaint about Twitter.. All the things about Twitter applies to the Web also. You can do and read stupid things on every medium. Yes, you can read about what LILO had for lunch on Twitter but you can read stupid things on the web also. It’s a tool that has both good and bad.

497 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 10:08:06am

re: #496 HoosierHoops

Yes, you can read about what LILO had for lunch on Twitter but you can read stupid things on the web also

My point exactly
As i’m driving an hour + to work, I don’t need an IMMEDIATE update on what LILO is eating.

498 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 10:10:30am

re: #496 HoosierHoops

re: #497 sattv4u2


Yes, you can read about what LILO had for lunch on Twitter but you can read stupid things on the web also

My point exactly
As i’m driving an hour + to work, I don’t need an IMMEDIATE update on what LILO is eating.

AND have to pay extra to know!

499 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 10:24:33am

re: #417 stabby

The witch doctor in this scenario would be the one denying scientific evidence of outcomes— you.

500 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 10:30:56am

re: #499 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

The witch doctor in this scenario would be the one denying scientific evidence of outcomes— you.

Thanks for posting that reply. Without it I would have missed Stabbys,,, umm,, analysis!!

501 TedStriker  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 10:48:33am

re: #416 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

I would be the kind of recluse that everyone thinks is saving his urine in labeled mason jars. Not that I ever have to worry about being even slightly famous, anyway.

And apparently, no level of celebrity is too minor for stalkers:

Wil Wheaton is the fucking man.

502 Robur  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 11:32:09am

re: #4 Kronocide

All thanks to conservatism! No IF’S Ands or BUTS!!!!

503 Robur  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 11:39:28am

re: #441 Vicious Babushka

BoyHowdy..this UlyssesRN is one incredible azzwipe! How do some people get that stupid? Must take years of study at Liberty Univ.

504 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:19:08pm

re: #503 Robur

BoyHowdy..this UlyssesRN is one incredible azzwipe! How do some people get that stupid? Must take years of study at Liberty Univ.

Dead thread attack - again?


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