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Obama to Receive Israel’s Presidential Medal of Distinction

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You know that universal wingnut talking point that President Obama is “antisemitic” and despises Israel?

Well, here’s the reality: On Israel Trip, Obama to Get Medal.

(CNN) - When President Barack Obama visits Israel next month, he’ll be awarded the Presidential Medal of Distinction, Israeli President Shimon Peres’ office announced Monday.

Obama, the first sitting U.S. president to receive the recognition, will be awarded the medal for making “a unique and significant contribution to strengthening the State of Israel and the security of its citizens,” according to a release announcing the news.

Also see:
Peres to Give Obama Medal of Distinction | the Times of Israel

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494 comments

1 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 11:37:10am

Wingnuts declare ideological jihad war against Israel in 5… 4… 3… 2…

2 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 11:39:31am

Wingnut head splodey

3 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 11:40:29am

re: #2 Vicious Babushka

Wingnut head splodey

4 erik_t  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 11:40:31am

re: #2 Vicious Babushka

Wingnut head splodey

If only it could have been announced on the day that Orly gets smacked down by SCOTUS.

Cleanup on aisle derp.

5 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 11:42:18am

One of my wingnut acquaintances seems to think this is Israel trying “behavior modification,” that by giving Obama the medal, Israel will inspire him to take a more “pro-Israel” slant.

Some folks aren’t even on speaking terms with reality.

6 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 11:44:31am

Watch the white nationalist portion of the right start to exert even more influence by turning people’s ODS into being against Israel because they gave Obama this medal. Remember anyone who likes Obama is automatically not to be trusted.

7 erik_t  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 11:44:33am

re: #5 Targetpractice

One of my wingnut acquaintances seems to think this is Israel trying “behavior modification,” that by giving Obama the medal, Israel will inspire him to take a more “pro-Israel” slant.

Some folks aren’t even on speaking terms with reality.

Not sure if subtle racism or just moronic.

8 A Mom Anon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 11:45:29am

re: #7 erik_t

It can be both. It’s a floor wax AND a dessert topping!

9 Dr. Matt  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 11:47:43am
Obama to Receive Israel’s Presidential Medal of Distinction

The foxtards are going to be messing a lot of diapers over the next 24 hours over this.

10 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 11:48:47am

re: #9 Dr. Matt

The foxtards are going to be messing a lot of diapers over the next 24 hours over this.

In 24 hours SCOTUS is going to deliver a smackdown to Orly Taitz. Wingnut splodey head EVERYWHERE!

11 JeffFX  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 11:49:18am

re: #9 Dr. Matt

I don’t see how they can do anything but pretend that it didn’t happen. It doesn’t fit the narrative at all, and Fox is already struggling with keeping their audience delusional in the face of the Romney defeat.

12 Dr. Matt  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 11:52:32am

re: #10 Vicious Babushka

In 24 hours SCOTUS is going to deliver a smackdown to Orly Taitz. Wingnut splodey head EVERYWHERE!

For grins I went over to Oily Taint’s blog and there were over 100 comments about tomorrow’s case. It actually frightens me that those 100 comments come from “people” that could be our neighbors. The cumulative Derpness was embarrassing.

13 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 11:53:41am

re: #11 JeffFX

I don’t see how they can do anything but pretend that it didn’t happen. It doesn’t fit the narrative at all, and Fox is already struggling with keeping their audience delusional in the face of the Romney defeat.

ROMNEY LOST?!?!?!
/

14 JeffFX  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 11:55:14am

re: #12 Dr. Matt

It’s pretty easy to gather 100 lunatics who will embrace ANY delusion on the web.

15 stabby  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 11:56:39am

They’ve ignored it on PJ Media so far.

I expect Barry Rubin will go ballistic on it soon.

16 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 11:56:41am

re: #13 Kragar (Antichrist )

ROMNEY LOST?!?!?!
/

THEIR WAZ VOTE CHEATIN!1! ROMNEY TOTALLY WON WITH SO MANY MOAR RED SPACES!1!1!TY

17 jaunte  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 11:57:42am

re: #11 JeffFX

I don’t see how they can do anything but pretend that it didn’t happen. It doesn’t fit the narrative at all, and Fox is already struggling with keeping their audience delusional in the face of the Romney defeat.

CPAC will help:

Former Gov. Palin to address CPAC 2013:

“It’s going to be like 2010, but this time around we need to shake up the GOP machine that tries to orchestrate away too much of the will of constitutional conservatives who don’t give a hoot how they do it in D.C.,” Palin said.

18 Dr. Matt  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 11:58:09am

re: #14 JeffFX

It’s pretty easy to gather 100 lunatics who will embrace ANY delusion on the web.

But 100 “patriots” with AR-15s can fight off a tyrannical government!

WOLVERINESSSsSSSSzzzzzzzz!!!

19 Zero Tolerance for Silence  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 11:58:58am

This story is absolutely indistinguishable from one written for the express purpose of causing rage among the conservative commentariat.

20 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 11:59:05am

re: #17 jaunte

CPAC will help:

Former Gov. Palin to address CPAC 2013:

“we need to shake up the GOP machine”

Yeah, smack the shit out of it, that fixes everything.

21 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:00:13pm

re: #18 Dr. Matt

But 100 “patriots” with AR-15s can fight off a tyrannical government!

WOLVERINESSSsSSSSzzzzzzzz!!!

No no no. Like this…

WHUUUULLLLLBUR-RHEEEEENNNNZZZZZ!11!11!111!!!

22 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:02:03pm

re: #15 stabby

They’ve ignored it on PJ Media so far.

I expect Barry Rubin will go ballistic on it soon.

None of the usual suspects seem to be squawking. Probably trying to think up an anti-Obama angle that avoids being anti-Israel at the same time.

23 blueraven  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:02:33pm

Mike Huckabee, on his Fox show this weekend, compared Netanyahu to Churchill and Obama to Chamberlain

[Link: foxnewsinsider.com…]

I met with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and was again reminded of this historically centered world leader, who is the Churchill of our day, as he clearly understands the dangers of a nuclear Iran and a volatile Egypt, Syria, and Lebanon. From the policies he advances and the weak selections he makes for positions such as Secretary of Defense in the form of Chuck Hagel, it would be fair to say that President Obama might turn out to be Neville Chamberlain.”

and it is not the first time he has done so

[Link: www.google.com…]

24 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:02:56pm

re: #15 stabby

They’ve ignored it on PJ Media so far.

I expect Barry Rubin will go ballistic on it soon.

Why bother? Not like it will do any good.
/

25 stabby  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:03:36pm

re: #22 Targetpractice

They don’t need an angle. They just type “Obama bad” and pull an excuse for the medal out of their ass.

That’s how they write ALL of their articles. They do rationalization, not reason.

26 OtterQueen  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:05:01pm

What’s this about Orly Taitz? (She’s my favorite!)

27 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:06:11pm

I will bet that quite a few on the ‘right’ will note that this is coming from Peres, and so it doesn’t count or Peres is a liberal or something.

28 stabby  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:06:18pm

Rubin is apparently dying of cancer. So we may get less articles from him.

In the thread (not on PJ) I read that in, I couldn’t make myself care or refrain from criticizing. He’s a pretty horrible hack. And the pro-Israeli hysteria and manipulative attempts to slander Obama don’t do anyone any good.

29 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:06:40pm

WHAT. THE. FUCK.

30 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:06:54pm

re: #23 blueraven

Mike Huckabee, on his Fox show this weekend, compared Netanyahu to Churchill and Obama to Chamberlain

[Link: foxnewsinsider.com…]

and it is not the first time he has done so

[Link: www.google.com…]

So who is Clement Attlee, the fellow the Brits replaced Churchill with before the war had ended? And does Huck know that Chamberlain’s hesitancy to go to war with Germany had to do with his own military advisers saying that Britain was ill-equipped to go to war?

31 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:07:06pm

re: #22 Targetpractice

None of the usual suspects seem to be squawking. Probably trying to think up an anti-Obama angle that avoids being anti-Israel at the same time.

I call this the Pre-Talking Point Pause. It’s what happens before the right wing faithful are issued their approved opinions. As soon as the authorities decide how to handle it, the entire wingnut army will fall into unison lockstep.

32 stabby  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:07:35pm

re: #29 Vicious Babushka

I’d reply to kkksconservative

33 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:08:30pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

I call this the Pre-Talking Point Pause. It’s what happens before the right wing faithful are issued their approved opinions. As soon as the authorities decide how handle it, the entire wingnut army will fall into unison lockstep.

I at least figured they’d have something by now, since Limbaugh’s already done his show for the day and his bloviations are usually the dirt speck upon which the wingnuts try to fashion a pearl.

34 stabby  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:10:24pm

I think someone must have been going around downding all my past posts. I seem to have lost 1000 points overnight. I’ll be negative soon.

35 stabby  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:11:05pm

Someone is obsessed!

36 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:11:41pm

re: #29 Vicious Babushka

WHAT. THE. FUCK.

NANANANA! I CAN’T HEAR YOU! NANANANA!

37 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:11:50pm

President Obama & gay people & JESUS pray for you too, Bryan.

38 erik_t  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:11:55pm

re: #34 stabby

I think someone must have been going around downding all my past posts. I seem to have lost 1000 points overnight. I’ll be negative soon.

No, I’ve been watching your plummet over the last several weeks.

39 stabby  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:12:37pm

I was at about 1400 a day or two ago.

40 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:13:14pm

re: #38 erik_t

No, I’ve been watching your plummet over the last several weeks.

I think its time…

41 stabby  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:13:44pm

When Sattv made his crack about my number it was about 1400,if I remember

42 stabby  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:14:08pm

that was yesterday!

No, someone is obsessed.

43 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:15:50pm

I want to see what all those wingnuts with the little Israel flag in their Twitter avi have to say about this. So far, not much.

44 erik_t  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:16:44pm

re: #41 stabby

When Sattv made his crack about my number it was about 1400,if I remember

I thought you didn’t give a shit about what other people thought about you or how you communicate?

Are we attempting to zomg control you via karma?

45 stabby  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:17:19pm

I’m laughing at the obsessiveness.

46 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:17:41pm

re: #40 Kragar (Antichrist )

I’ve always loved the scene in that video with Jon Bon Jovi standing on a cliff, pretending to play a guitar and moving his hands all over the neck while the guitar in the actual music track is just playing one chord over and over.

47 lawhawk  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:18:07pm

This goes back to something else that has been simmering on the RWNJ and fringe right sites in both the US and Israel. They’re busy claiming that the President and Sec. State Kerry are both about to seriously change the relationship between Israel and the US by withholding funds.

That, of course, is sheer nonsense but there’s a kernel of information in that derpitude.

The information I’m referring to is that the sequester calls for across the board cuts to all programs, regardless of importance or significance to domestic and foreign policy.

The sequester was passed by Congress and signed into law by the President because Congress and the President couldn’t come to an agreement on a spending/cut/tax hike plan that could begin to reduce the deficit and basically be pain free (because no politician wants to admit the reality that there are costs to keep things the way they are - either hikes in taxes or cuts in services). Well, the sequester would affect the foreign policy budget just as surely as any other part of the federal budget affected by the sequester.

It’s not some secret plan. It’s been known from the moment it was proposed that it would hit foreign policy appropriations, including those to Israel.

The President isn’t targeting Israel for these cuts, nor is he changing the relationship between Israel and the US. It’s the sequester in action, should it take effect in March after Congress again fails to come up with an alternative plan.

That’s what this is about - and the wingnuts are in full flail mode trying to attack the president for cutting aid to Israel.

The foreign policy aid cuts would result in a 10% cut across the board as per the sequester legislation. Aid to Egypt, Israel, Pakistan, and anywhere else that the US is sending foreign aid would be cut 10% if there’s no action to change the sequester.

And to change the sequester means that Congress has to pass the legislation for the president to sign. It isn’t happening out of the ether.

As much as the wingnuts want to blame Obama for some kind of policy change vis-a-vis Israel, that simply isn’t true.

The cooler heads in both Israel and the US know this.

48 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:18:18pm

NRA President says there won’t be another assault weapons ban because “Guns are cool.”

Keene said much has changed since the 1994 passage of the since-expired federal assault weapons ban, which amounted to a policy defeat for the NRA.

“The difference between today and 15 years ago is that today, guns are cool,” Keene said.

49 stabby  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:18:44pm

And yes, I DO think LGF uses downdings in lieu of intelect.

It works as designed.

50 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:18:57pm

re: #46 Charles Johnson

I’ve always loved the scene in that video with Jon Bon Jovi standing on a cliff, pretending to play a guitar and moving his hands all over the neck while the guitar in the actual music track is just playing one chord over and over.

YOU MEAN HE WASN’T REALLY PLAYING?

My whole life is a lie.
/

51 lawhawk  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:19:12pm

re: #26 OtterQueen

Well, her latest birther case is before the Supreme Court (sent for conference on February 15). Here’s hoping she gets a royal smackdown of epic proportions.

52 Dr. Matt  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:19:50pm

re: #45 stabby

I’m laughing at the obsessiveness.

re: #42 stabby

that was yesterday!

No, someone is obsessed.

re: #35 stabby

Someone is obsessed!

Yup.

53 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:20:00pm

I told you not to use this talking point. Because he really BELIEVES the crap he is spewing, so to him it is not “false witness.”

54 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:20:29pm

re: #49 stabby

And yes, I DO think LGF uses downdings in lieu of intelect.

It works as designed.

If you’re going to engage in snide swipes to stroke your own ego, it helps to engage in proper grammar while doing so.

55 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:20:53pm

Muse has the all time best video for dubbing, when they were told they weren’t allowed to play live for a TV show, they said fuck it.

56 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:21:05pm

re: #13 Kragar (Antichrist )

ROMNEY LOST?!?!?!
/

That’s what Twitter says, but Twitter is always wrong.

57 Dr. Matt  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:21:09pm

re: #49 stabby

And yes, I DO think LGF uses downdings in lieu of intelect. [sic]

Derp

58 freetoken  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:21:21pm

re: #49 stabby

And yes, I DO think LGF uses downdings in lieu of intelect.

It works as designed.

59 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:23:01pm

He lives in a world where made up shit is “facts”

60 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:23:23pm

re: #23 blueraven

Mike Huckabee, on his Fox show this weekend, compared Netanyahu to Churchill and Obama to Chamberlain

[Link: foxnewsinsider.com…]

and it is not the first time he has done so

[Link: www.google.com…]

The US needs to unilaterally make a preemptive attack against all those countries.

61 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:24:18pm

re: #26 OtterQueen

What’s this about Orly Taitz? (She’s my favorite!)

She is so cute, in a clownish kind of way.

62 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:24:22pm

Anyone here ever play world of tanks?

63 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:24:41pm

ANTHROPOMORPHIC! LOL.

64 Dr. Matt  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:25:09pm

re: #55 Kragar (Antichrist )

Muse has the all time best video for dubbing, when they were told they weren’t allowed to play live for a TV show, they said fuck it.

[Embedded content]

On an awesomeness scale of 1 to 10, that is an 11.

65 Sionainn  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:25:39pm

re: #49 stabby

And yes, I DO think LGF uses downdings in lieu of intelect.

It works as designed.

Stabby’s Rules for Downdinging

You got one from me, again falling under the “stupid comment” section of your rules.

66 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:26:27pm

I see he’s doing the “Gish Gallop”

67 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:27:50pm

re: #63 Vicious Babushka

ANTHROPOMORPHIC! LOL.

This Richard Lindzen?

Clouds’ Effect on Climate Change Is Last Bastion for Dissenters

Dr. Lindzen is “feeding upon an audience that wants to hear a certain message, and wants to hear it put forth by people with enough scientific reputation that it can be sustained for a while, even if it’s wrong science,” said Christopher S. Bretherton, an atmospheric researcher at the University of Washington. “I don’t think it’s intellectually honest at all.”

68 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:27:51pm

re: #35 stabby

Someone is obsessed!

Are you really that important?

69 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:28:10pm

re: #63 Vicious Babushka

I’ve been Googling “wapor vapor theory” but I can’t seem to find anything.

70 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:28:35pm

re: #66 Vicious Babushka

I see he’s doing the “Gish Gallop”

Right. Because 90+% of working climate scientists have never heard of sunspots.

71 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:28:37pm

re: #69 Charles Johnson

I’ve been Googling “wapor vapor theory” but I can’t seem to find anything.

It all vaporized.

72 stabby  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:29:25pm

re: #68 b_sharp

Are you really that important?

Ha ha, apparently!

73 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:29:36pm

re: #69 Charles Johnson

I’ve been Googling “wapor vapor theory” but I can’t seem to find anything.

Science Hipsters.

“He’s a really great scientist, but you’ve probably never heard of him.”

74 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:30:37pm

re: #49 stabby

And yes, I DO think LGF uses downdings in lieu of intelect.

It works as designed.

You are an ass, surprise surprise.

ROTFLMFAO

75 stabby  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:30:59pm

Meh I don’t have that many comments, I probably remember wrong.
If I was at 1/2 per comment then I only lost 400 today/last night.

Now at -8 per argument comment that would take 50 comments from me.

Possible.

76 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:31:01pm

re: #68 b_sharp

Are you really that important?

“Paranoia is a very comforting state of mind. If you think they’re out to get you, it means you think you matter.”

77 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:31:23pm

Boom. Wingnut headshot.

78 stabby  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:31:44pm

re: #74 b_sharp

I get better arguments from some wingnut sites than I do here.

There’s a reason.

79 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:32:00pm

re: #53 Vicious Babushka

I told you not to use this talking point. Because he really BELIEVES the crap he is spewing, so to him it is not “false witness.”

It must have been after I sent the tweet.

80 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:32:14pm

re: #75 stabby

Meh I don’t have that many comments, I probably remember wrong.
If I was at 1/2 per comment then I only lost 400 today/last night.

Now at -8 per argument comment that would take 50 comments from me.

Possible.

If you’re really that worried about it, maybe stop trying to come across like a complete dick in every other post.

Just a thought.

81 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:33:11pm

re: #78 stabby

I get better arguments from some wingnut sites than I do here.

There’s a reason.

They recognize a fellow asshole when they see one?

82 TedStriker  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:33:19pm

re: #78 stabby

I get better arguments from some wingnut sites than I do here.

There’s a reason.

Reason: you haven’t got it.

Get fucked.

83 JeffFX  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:34:34pm

re: #82 TedStriker

Get fucked.

Your childishness and emotional problems aren’t any more interesting than stabby’s.

84 stabby  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:34:38pm

re: #80 Kragar (Antichrist )

I expect actual honest arguments, not vacuous dripping contempt substituting for argument.

People here may have more reasonable stances on issues than most sites, but the result of the purges is a site full of people who know how to lynch not argue.

You don’t do it right.

85 dragonath  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:34:47pm

Why does stabby have to, uh, stab every thread to death?

86 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:34:55pm

re: #78 stabby

I just hope we can reach to your levels one day. The casual use of bold, the all-caps drop, the blithe dismissal of the entire field of psychology as witch doctors; it’s a tour de force, and I’m not sure anyone is going to equal it any time soon.

87 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:35:30pm

re: #84 stabby

I expect actual honest arguments, not vacuous dripping contempt substituting for argument.

People here may have more reasonable stances on issues than most sites, but the result of the purges is a site full of people who know how to lynch not argue.

You don’t do it right.

Then why the fuck do you keep coming back if the environment is not to your liking? Do you get off on imaging yourself as the smartest guy in the room?

88 Sionainn  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:35:37pm

re: #84 stabby

I expect actual honest arguments, not vacuous dripping contempt substituting for argument.

People here may have more reasonable stances on issues than most sites, but the result of the purges is a site full of people who know how to lynch not argue.

You don’t do it right.

Helps if you actually follow your own advice. Just sayin’.

89 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:36:09pm

re: #85 dragonath

Why does stabby have to, uh, stab every thread to death?

We all suck and he’s smarter than us. It causes him a lot of acute pain, but unfortunately after he ran over a badger, he was haunted by its ghost and he has to post on websites as a kind of penance. I’m not sure what happens in Season 2.

90 JeffFX  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:36:43pm

re: #84 stabby

You don’t seem to understand that people don’t consider YOU to be worth arguing with. You put your emotional problems in your user name and posts, and it’s insane to expect a positive response to what you are.

91 Lidane  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:37:19pm

re: #29 Vicious Babushka

WHAT. THE. FUCK.

Birther derp. They buy into Orly Taitz’s idiocy that Barack Obama doesn’t actually exist because his name is supposedly something else.

92 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:37:36pm

re: #84 stabby

You left off the “Your type really makes me puke, you vacuous, toffee-nosed, malodorous pervert!” part.

93 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:37:47pm

re: #86 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

I just hope we can reach to your levels one day. The casual use of bold, the all-caps drop, the blithe dismissal of the entire field of psychology as witch doctors; it’s a tour de force, and I’m not sure anyone is going to equal it any time soon.

Your sarcasm is razor sharp today.

94 stabby  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:38:34pm

re: #92 Kragar (Antichrist )

That gets an upding.

Gotta go for now.

95 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:38:50pm

re: #17 jaunte

CPAC will help:

Former Gov. Palin to address CPAC 2013:

Thanks for your opinion, Caribou Barbie.

(spits)

96 Amory Blaine  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:39:39pm

The Deficit Chart That Should Embarrass Budget Hawks

Here’s a pretty important fact that virtually everyone in Washington seems oblivious to: The federal deficit has never fallen as fast as it’s falling now without a coincident recession.

To be specific, CBO expects the deficit to shrink from 8.7% of GDP in fiscal 2011 to 5.3% in fiscal 2013 if the sequester takes effect and to 5.5% if it doesn’t. Either way, the two-year deficit reduction — equal to 3.4% of the economy if automatic budget cuts are triggered and 3.2% if not — would stand far above any other fiscal tightening since World War II.

Until the aftermath of the Great Recession, there were only three such periods in which the deficit shrank by a cumulative 2% of GDP or more. The 1960-61 and 1969-70 episodes both helped bring about a recession.

Far steeper deficit cuts during the demobilization from World War II and in 1937-38 both precipitated economic reversals.

Now the deficit is shrinking about 50% faster than it did during the booming late 1990s, when the jobless rate was falling south of 5% and tax revenues were soaring — without tax hikes.

Chart

This is a chart you will never see in the “liberal” media. A chart published in the most conservative rag in the nation basically, calling all the right wing deficit doom and gloom bullshit. David Gregory, where are you?

97 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:40:00pm

BTW, whatever happened to our new woman hater troll from last week?

98 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:40:13pm

re: #20 Kragar (Antichrist )

“we need to shake up the GOP machine”

Yeah, smack the shit out of it, that fixes everything.

The Fonzie Technique.

99 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:40:53pm

re: #98 chadu

The Fonzie Technique.

Too Jewish.

100 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:40:59pm

re: #23 blueraven

Jesus wept.

101 freetoken  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:41:06pm

re: #95 chadu

CPAC : Has-been demagogues :: DWTS : 1970’s TV stars

102 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:41:31pm

re: #99 Kragar (Antichrist )

Jewtastic!

103 Lidane  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:41:51pm

re: #96 Amory Blaine

David Gregory, where are you?

He’s busy getting yelled at by McCain over Benghazi.

104 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:42:07pm

re: #101 freetoken

You’re onto something here, methinks.

105 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:42:31pm

Holy crap, he really believes all this shit.

106 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:42:55pm

This is me, considering whether continual narcissistic thread-hijacking is something up with which I will put.

107 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:43:54pm

re: #105 Vicious Babushka

Holy crap, he really believes all this shit.

Because humanity has never caused long lasting environmental damage any where ever.

108 Amory Blaine  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:44:00pm

When I sit here naked from the waist down, it isn’t in front of a mirror.

109 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:44:03pm

re: #106 Charles Johnson

This is me, considering whether continual narcissistic thread-hijacking is something up with which I will put.

Careful now, might feed into his persecution complex.

//

110 erik_t  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:44:26pm

re: #106 Charles Johnson

This is me, considering whether continual narcissistic thread-hijacking is something up with which I will put.

Updinged hard for proper location of preposition.

111 freetoken  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:44:30pm

re: #106 Charles Johnson

Prepositions dangle not,
When dealing with narcissistic snot.

112 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:44:46pm

re: #29 Vicious Babushka

Again, I call for a calm, rational discussion of zombie vs. golem TR to kick the shit out of these idiots.

113 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:45:12pm

re: #106 Charles Johnson

He’s completely in the ‘not sure if serious’ category for me.

114 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:45:33pm

re: #106 Charles Johnson

You’re missing an “up”.

115 Lidane  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:45:34pm

Because idiocy and derp aren’t just for right wing nutters:

116 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:45:36pm

re: #112 chadu

Again, I call for a calm, rational discussion of zombie vs. golem TR to kick the shit out of these idiots.

I’m kind of partial to vampire TR.

117 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:46:04pm

re: #105 Vicious Babushka

Holy crap, he really believes all this shit.

Axis flip?

118 TedStriker  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:46:20pm

re: #83 JeffFX

Your childishness and emotional problems aren’t any more interesting than stabby’s.

“Childishness”? “Emotional problems”? Man, that’s rich, considering that ‘stabby’ has basically been shitting at least the past couple of threads and has a track record of doing this.

But hey, if you want play Internet Psychologist, don’t let me stop you; however, you might want to put ‘stabby’ on your virtual couch, not me.

I don’t suffer fools gladly.

119 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:46:39pm

re: #101 freetoken

CPAC : Has-been demagogues :: DWTS : 1970’s TV stars

This leads inexorably to LibertyTwerk 2013. Tri-corn hats, ridiculous accents, and horrendous booty dancing.

Picture it. You know you can’t help yourself.

120 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:46:41pm

re: #108 Amory Blaine

When I sit here naked from the waist down, it isn’t in front of a mirror.

Good choice.

121 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:46:42pm

re: #112 chadu

Again, I call for a calm, rational discussion of zombie vs. golem TR to kick the shit out of these idiots.

re: #116 Vicious Babushka

I’m kind of partial to vampire TR.

What am I missing here?

122 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:46:45pm

re: #96 Amory Blaine

The Deficit Chart That Should Embarrass Budget Hawks

Chart

This is a chart you will never see in the “liberal” media. A chart published in the most conservative rag in the nation basically, calling all the right wing deficit doom and gloom bullshit. David Gregory, where are you?

And yet, they’re convinced that the problem is that we haven’t cut enough. That we have to virtually dismantle Medicare and Social Security in order to save America.

123 bratwurst  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:47:21pm

re: #78 stabby

I get better arguments from some wingnut sites than I do here.

There’s a reason.

Yet you are here (under your second LGF moniker we know of) and not there. That is downright odd.

124 lawhawk  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:47:40pm

re: #114 chadu

You’re missing an “up”.

That would be from the Department of Redundancy Department calling.

125 TedStriker  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:47:49pm

re: #89 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

We all suck and he’s smarter than us. It causes him a lot of acute pain, but unfortunately after he ran over a badger, he was haunted by its ghost and he has to post on websites as a kind of penance. I’m not sure what happens in Season 2.

I’ve got it!

‘stabby’ is really ‘annefrance’, playing 3-D chess in a 2-D world, with an IQ of 167.

126 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:47:54pm

re: #116 Vicious Babushka

I’m kind of partial to vampire TR.

Dear Lord, you want to give Teddy all those powers?

127 JeffFX  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:47:56pm

re: #118 TedStriker

Have you not noticed that you’re the only person here who routinely loses it and starts swearing at people? Not something well-balanced people do.

128 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:48:15pm

Talk about dogs and cats getting along….

Shelter Dogs Help Cheetahs Survive

Former shelter dogs Max, Alexa, Hopper and Mtani are playing very important roles to save endangered cheetahs. Each is helping the fastest mammal in the world from becoming extinct by serving as a playmate and companion.

129 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:48:40pm

re: #125 TedStriker

I’ve got it!

‘stabby’ is really ‘annefrance’, playing 3-D chess in a 2-D world, with an IQ of 167.

That was CharlyeSartre who played 3D chess.

130 freetoken  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:49:02pm

re: #129 Vicious Babushka

That was CharlyeSartre who played 3D chess.

I thought is was Spock?

131 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:49:04pm

re: #121 Kragar (Antichrist )

Nuffink!

I know nuffink!
(/schulz)

132 TedStriker  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:49:08pm

re: #129 Vicious Babushka

That was CharlyeSartre who played 3D chess.

Oh yeah…

Same type, though.

133 lawhawk  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:49:35pm

re: #130 freetoken

But paper disproves Spock.

134 OtterQueen  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:51:01pm

re: #117 b_sharp

Axis flip?

I think he means this: [Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

135 freetoken  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:51:08pm
136 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:51:17pm

OK, I’ve had it, you’re all POOPY HEADS and I’m wearing my aluminum foil (not tin foil) hat from now on.

137 Amory Blaine  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:51:31pm

re: #122 Targetpractice

Hopefully even with the contempt towards the vulnerable the elites have displayed the last couple years, using our recession as a springboard to dismantle every social program which had nothing to do with the recession, that contempt will be rendered mute if those in charge just drag their feet long enough to show the argument for the lie it is. Contempt for the poor.

138 Mattand  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:51:36pm

re: #124 lawhawk

That would be from the Department of Redundancy Department calling.

Say that again?

139 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:51:36pm

re: #131 chadu

Nuffink!

I know nuffink!
(/schulz)

Very well, because if what I’m reading is correct, you’re all fools because werewolf Andrew Jackson is the most destructive being in all of creation.

140 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:52:02pm

re: #130 freetoken

I played 3d chess once. Got my ass handed to me.

Have played a couple “fairy chess” games by Lewis Carroll.

Maybe I’m just no good at chess.

141 TedStriker  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:52:22pm

re: #127 JeffFX

Have you not noticed that you’re the only person here who routinely loses it and starts swearing at people? Not something well-balanced people do.

Have you ever noticed that you’re the only one that’s making any conclusions as to my state-of-mind, even though you’re clearly full of it?

Yeah…

142 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:52:33pm

re: #133 lawhawk

I though lizard beats Spock.

143 Amory Blaine  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:52:48pm
144 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:53:42pm

@VoteRivette has blocked me! I’m just devastated.//

145 JeffFX  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:53:46pm

re: #141 TedStriker

Are you proud that your poor behavior stands out?

Carry on then.

146 JeffFX  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:54:05pm

re: #144 Vicious Babushka

@VoteRivette has blocked me! I’m just devastated.//

He probably didn’t have your vote anyway.

147 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:54:17pm

re: #137 Amory Blaine

Hopefully even with the contempt towards the vulnerable the elites have displayed the last couple years, using our recession as a springboard to dismantle every social program which had nothing to do with the recession, that contempt will be rendered mute if those in charge just drag their feet long enough to show the argument for the lie it is. Contempt for the poor.

Republicans seem to have taken a new route, refusing to pass anything and then blaming Obama for their refusal to work on any sort of agreement. Boehner seems to think referencing nullified bills as the GOP “response” to the sequester gets them off the hook.

148 lawhawk  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:54:42pm

re: #135 freetoken

[Link: www.purplefrogsystems.com…]

149 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:54:45pm

re: #143 Amory Blaine

[Embedded content]

Oh yeah?

150 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:55:03pm

re: #134 OtterQueen

I think he means this: [Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

I think he means the idea that precession causes the Earth to flip so the North becomes the South. I’ve heard that before among creationists.

151 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:55:14pm

re: #139 Kragar (Antichrist )

Very well, because if what I’m reading is correct, you’re all fools because werewolf Andrew Jackson is the most destructive being in all of creation.

Vampire TR could give him a run for the money, but fuckhellyes werewolf AJ is terrifying.

152 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:55:30pm

re: #146 JeffFX

He probably didn’t have your vote anyway.

He didn’t like this:

153 Amory Blaine  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:55:36pm

re: #149 Kragar (Antichrist )

I kneel before you humbled.

154 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:56:19pm

re: #144 Vicious Babushka

@VoteRivette has blocked me! I’m just devastated.//

He blocked you? You mean I have to go to twitter now? Poop.

155 freetoken  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:56:30pm

re: #140 chadu

Maybe I’m just no good at chess.

I just have no patience for it.

156 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:57:49pm

re: #155 freetoken

I just have no patience for it.

I’m actually bad at it. I keep trying to move the pieces using mind power alone.

157 OtterQueen  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:58:03pm

re: #150 b_sharp

I think he means the idea that precession causes the Earth to flip so the North becomes the South. I’ve heard that before among creationists.

So the earth physically flops, not just the magnetic poles? Never heard that one, but I haven’t read much creationist crap.

158 freetoken  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:58:32pm

re: #156 b_sharp

I’m actually bad at it. I keep trying to move the pieces using mind power alone.

You mean you haven’t discovered the secret magnets under the pieces?

159 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:59:13pm

How do we warp James Buchanan into a creditable foe? Not a vampire, not a werewolf, not a golem or zombie. He just kinda sat there and allowed the CW to brew.

160 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:59:43pm

re: #157 OtterQueen

So the earth physically flops, not just the magnetic poles? Never heard that one, but I haven’t read much creationist crap.

Yup. I thought it was the looniest until I watched the Hovind tapes and realized it was par for the course.

161 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:59:45pm

re: #159 chadu

How do we warp James Buchanan into a creditable foe? Not a vampire, not a werewolf, not a golem or zombie. He just kinda sat there and allowed the CW to brew.

Obviously a Shoggoth.

162 freetoken  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:00:07pm

When headline writers become desperate, and feather-ruffled activists get sour:

Can You Trust Jared Diamond?

163 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:00:24pm

re: #158 freetoken

You mean you haven’t discovered the secret magnets under the pieces?

Magnets, how the hell do they work.

You can’t explain that.

164 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:00:27pm

re: #156 b_sharp

I’m actually bad at it. I keep trying to move the pieces using mind power alone.

I keep trying to justify moves under the Magna Carta.

165 efuseakay  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:00:56pm

re: #78 stabby

I get better arguments from some wingnut sites than I do here.

There’s a reason.

Yeah… at those sites, you feel at home.

166 Amory Blaine  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:01:30pm

Really? Which wingnut sites are those?

167 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:01:31pm

re: #161 Kragar (Antichrist )

Do we really want to go all Lovecraft here?

168 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:02:47pm

re: #112 chadu

Again, I call for a calm, rational discussion of zombie vs. golem TR to kick the shit out of these idiots.

I vote golem since the rotting flesh thing wearing pince-nez is so not TR. Not to mention a long drawn out “BULLLLLYYYY” out of rotting teeth is just not right either.

169 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:02:50pm

re: #167 chadu

Do we really want to go all Lovecraft here?

Always.

Image: Cthulhu+Warning+Sign.png

170 Robur  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:02:54pm

re: #3 Kragar (Antichrist )

Another event for wingnuts to ignore..I think not..they wont ignore another reality based event…they will attempt to tear Obama to shreds and also his foreign policy and once again look like the insane petty children that they are. Conservatism IS a mental disorder!!!

171 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:03:06pm

re: #160 b_sharp

Yup. I thought it was the looniest until I watched the Hovind tapes and realized it was par for the course.

Yith.

I’ll go with a slow, lazy Yithian.

What do you think?

172 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:03:12pm

Jim Hoft as usual doesn’t correct anything or acknowledge an error, he just quietly adds the following line to his idiotic post about Al Gore:

(This is a spoof – a good one)

173 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:03:48pm

re: #172 Charles Johnson

Jim Hoft as usual doesn’t correct anything or acknowledge an error, he just quietly adds the following line to his idiotic post about Al Gore:

Define “a good one”.

174 Mattand  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:05:05pm

re: #152 Vicious Babushka

He didn’t like this:

For Vicious Babushka:

175 Lidane  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:05:15pm

Cue the ‘splodey heads and angry tweets:

176 Amory Blaine  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:05:59pm

Man when I was young we would sit around with our guitars, play chess, drink coffee and smoke er cigarettes (wink), sometimes a chess round would go 6 hours. I miss those carefree days.

Sigh.

177 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:06:36pm

re: #171 chadu

Yith.

I’ll go with a slow, lazy Yithian.

What do you think?

The great race of Yith were highly organized an intelligent.

An avatar of Tsathoggua perhaps.

179 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:07:20pm

re: #162 freetoken

When headline writers become desperate, and feather-ruffled activists get sour:

Can You Trust Jared Diamond?

Diamond has to be read with a bit of awareness. He at times jumps to conclusions based on unimportant or incomplete information but at the same time some of his information is ,… well informative.

180 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:07:44pm

re: #176 Amory Blaine

Playing Solitaire till dawn with a deck of 51?

181 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:08:24pm

And now I am considering a gladiatorial fight between ERB and HPL, refereed by LFB.

I think the medications are starting to interact.

182 freetoken  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:08:29pm

The South rises again?

As immigration vote looms, some southern Democrats get queasy

Immigration isn’t a touchy subject just for many Republicans. Southern and moderate Democrats also may be a bit skittish about the idea of granting a path to citizenship for the nation’s 11 million illegal immigrants.

A small group of Senate Democrats, because they represent conservative states such as North Carolina and Arkansas, could help derail ambitious plans to overhaul the nation’s immigration laws.

[…]

183 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:08:36pm

re: #180 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Playing Solitaire till dawn with a deck of 51?

Don’t blame me, there’s nothing to do.

184 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:08:38pm

re: #164 chadu

I keep trying to justify moves under the Magna Carta.

I prefer Marquis de Sade.

185 dragonath  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:08:52pm

re: #178 engineer cat

the united states redrawn as 50 states with equal population

“Firelands”… are they referring to the rivers?

186 Lidane  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:09:19pm

re: #180 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Playing Solitaire till dawn with a deck of 51?

Smokin’ cigarettes and watching Captain Kangaroo.

187 Mattand  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:09:28pm

re: #172 Charles Johnson

Jim Hoft as usual doesn’t correct anything or acknowledge an error, he just quietly adds the following line to his idiotic post about Al Gore:

Noticed that earlier. I’d like to think my comment there, reminding him of his title of Dumbest Man on the Internet, had something to do with it.

Then again, this is Jim Hoft we’re talking about. It’s entirely possible he had a 12 hour conversation with some pocket lint that convinced him.

His butthurt over the DJesus Unchained skit on Saturday’s SNL was worth it, though.

188 sagehen  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:09:41pm

re: #5 Targetpractice

One of my wingnut acquaintances seems to think this is Israel trying “behavior modification,” that by giving Obama the medal, Israel will inspire him to take a more “pro-Israel” slant.

Some folks aren’t even on speaking terms with reality.

Because that worked so well for the Nobel people. Just think how many drones he’d have launched if they *hadn’t* given him a Peace Prize.

189 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:09:41pm

re: #177 Kragar (Antichrist )

The Great Race had a booming fashion industry.

190 jaunte  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:09:45pm

re: #174 Mattand

Revolution fantasists like Rivette tend to forget examples from recent history, when LBJ federalized the Alabama National Guard to help the state “perform ordinary police functions.”
[Link: news.google.com…]

191 freetoken  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:10:05pm

re: #179 b_sharp

I consider Diamond’s popular books to be just that - popularizations of topics that are almost intractable due to their complexity.

At least he tries to paint a bigger picture covering human past and future.

192 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:10:18pm

re: #177 Kragar (Antichrist )

The great race of Yith were highly organized an intelligent.

An avatar of Tsathoggua perhaps.

More likely the denizens of Innsmouth. After all they tend to be fat, slovenly and fishy with equivalent brains.

193 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:10:28pm

re: #181 chadu

And now I am considering a gladiatorial fight between ERB and HPL, refereed by LFB.

I think the medications are starting to interact.

Great, that got me to envision an epic rap battle between Kipling and Tennyson.

Thanks so much for that.

194 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:10:46pm

re: #171 chadu

Yith.

I’ll go with a slow, lazy Yithian.

What do you think?

Oh crap, you’re asking me to do something I try to avoid. Tell you what, let me think about it.

195 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:10:47pm

re: #184 b_sharp

Canny play, there.

196 Interesting Times  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:11:04pm

re: #178 engineer cat

the united states redrawn as 50 states with equal population

The names are cool, if nothing else.

197 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:11:08pm

re: #173 Kragar (Antichrist )

Define “a good one”.

And it begins.

198 TedStriker  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:11:10pm

re: #145 JeffFX

Are you proud that your poor behavior stands out?

Carry on then.

“Poor behavior”, says you (and only you).

If you’re getting your knickers in a twist just because I’m not genuflecting and kissing your and stabby’s asses, so be it.

Annnddd I’m done…

199 freetoken  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:11:12pm

Frankly I wouldn’t mind if they left:

Gov. Rick Perry would ‘love’ if San Diego Chargers moved to San Antonio

Let the San Antonians deal with spoiled brat billionaires.

200 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:11:34pm

re: #197 b_sharp

And it begins.

The Third Age of mankind…

201 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:12:14pm

re: #199 freetoken

Frankly I wouldn’t mind if they left:

Gov. Rick Perry would ‘love’ if San Diego Chargers moved to San Antonio

Let the San Antonians deal with spoiled brat billionaires.

I’d love for them to move. San Diego would be better off without them.

202 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:13:01pm

re: #192 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

And they can’t crack a nut. None of them. Give them a walnut and they don’t know what to do.

203 freetoken  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:13:19pm

re: #201 Kragar (Antichrist )

Note that the Perry interview was published in the SDUT, now owned by wingnut Doug Manchester.

204 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:13:33pm

I noticed there was some discussion about this earlier, wondering whether liberals would denounce Alec Baldwin after a NY Post photographer claimed Baldwin made racist remarks at him: Alec Baldwin Fires Back at NY Post Report Asserting ‘Racist Rant’ Against Photographer.

Alec Baldwin can be a real jerk, but I’m more inclined to believe him than the New York Post.

205 dragonath  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:13:36pm

Just thinking.

If people like stabby like to post at wingnut sites, no wonder they’re crazy.

206 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:14:31pm

re: #193 Kragar (Antichrist )

Great, that got me to envision an epic rap battle between Kipling and Tennyson.

Thanks so much for that.

NOW I HAVE THAT IN MY BRAIN, AND IT IS AWESOME.

207 engineer cat  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:15:10pm

re: #196 Interesting Times

The names are cool, if nothing else.

i think it does a better job of grouping areas of the country by cultural similarity than the regular states

anyway, it’s like a little vacation to an alternate reality…

208 lawhawk  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:18:24pm

The most dangerous president would be a Vogon Obama. He’d bore you to death and sign all the paperwork (and make sure all the forms were properly initialed in triplicate) to blow up your planet to make room for an interstellar expressway.

Oh, and the dolphins are already packing up to move. Don’t panic, but I hope you’ve got your towel handy.

209 sagehen  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:18:42pm

re: #196 Interesting Times

The names are cool, if nothing else.

And New York/Throg’s Neck would have four deep blue senators to go along with our 19 deep blue congressional districts.

210 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:19:53pm

re: #203 freetoken

Note that the Perry interview was published in the SDUT, now owned by wingnut Doug Manchester.

SDUT doesn’t even rate as a fishrag. I made the mistake of subscribing for a month, maybe got my paper 3 days out of the week and its just a dismal source of drivel.

211 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:20:13pm
212 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:20:44pm

re: #205 dragonath

Just thinking.

If people like stabby like to post at wingnut sites, no wonder they’re crazy.

There are MORE than him !?!?!?!

213 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:20:46pm

re: #191 freetoken

I consider Diamond’s popular books to be just that - popularizations of topics that are almost intractable due to their complexity.

At least he tries to paint a bigger picture covering human past and future.

I quite liked ‘The Third Chimpanzee’ but found some of the value judgments he made based on incomplete info in Guns, Germs and Steel a bit annoying. Once you get past the way he presents things, or take it for what it is, a popularization, his books are enlightening.

214 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:22:39pm

re: #211 Charles Johnson

Jim Hoft: Junk Scientists: Global Warming Causes Less Snow but More Blizzards …(Huh?)

Huh? Wha? What the… hey! Derrr?!

You can’t argue with people who think evidence against them supports their position.

Plus, it helps if they’re not the DUMBEST MAN ON THE INTERNET!

215 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:23:23pm

re: #185 dragonath

“Firelands”… are they referring to the rivers?

The Firelands or Sufferers’ Lands tract was located at the western end of the Connecticut Western Reserve in what is now the U.S. state of Ohio. The land was set aside for residents of the Connecticut towns of Danbury, Fairfield, Greenwich, Groton, New Haven, New London, Norwalk, and Ridgefield who lost their homes in 1779 and 1781 due to fires set by British forces during the American Revolutionary War.

My mother grew up in the Firelands.

216 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:24:20pm

re: #42 stabby

that was yesterday!

No, someone is obsessed.

Cool off, is my advice. You take downdings way too personally. Try posting a good bit less once you start getting them in numbers and then resuming on a different topic later. It’s when you go right into the teeth of opposition that you really get pounded.

217 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:24:33pm

re: #211 Charles Johnson

Jim Hoft: Junk Scientists: Global Warming Causes Less Snow but More Blizzards …(Huh?)

Huh? Wha? What the… hey! Derrr?!

The story wasn’t his

he got it from the AP

(AT&T is my “homepage” on the house puter and I was just now scrolling through their top 20 stories and that was one of them)

[Link: news.yahoo.com…]

218 lawhawk  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:24:54pm

re: #211 Charles Johnson

Gee, NY metro has been flirting with drought conditions for the past couple of years. The only thing that’s kept it from having serious water issues has been a spate of hurricanes, nor’easters and blizzards to bring water levels and precipitation levels to anything approaching normal.

Rather than having periodic gentle rainfall or moderate snowfalls, we’re getting fewer moderate events here, but when it does rain, it’s more likely to be a torrential or catastrophic event.

But science, how does it work? /

219 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:24:57pm

re: #200 Kragar (Antichrist )

The Third Age of mankind…

It was the dawn of the third age of mankind, ten years after the Earth-Minbari War. The Babylon Project was a dream given form. Its goal: to prevent another war by creating a place where humans and aliens could work out their differences peacefully. It’s a port of call, home away from home for diplomats, hustlers, entrepreneurs, and wanderers. Humans and aliens wrapped in two million, five hundred thousand tons of spinning metal, all alone in the night. It can be a dangerous place, but it’s our last, best hope for peace. This is the story of the last of the Babylon stations. The year is 2258. The name of the place is Babylon 5.

220 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:25:58pm

re: #200 Kragar (Antichrist )

The Third Age of mankind…

Upding for the Babylon 5 reference.

221 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:26:28pm

re: #204 Charles Johnson

Baldwin did tweet this

Moments after I tweet about the Post, Ralston, the ex-crackhead ‘photographer’ shows up at my door w 1 of Murdoch’s nieces in tow.”

He added, “Ralston claims he’s ex NYPD!! That can’t be!!! Ex NYPD don’t become crackhead, ex jailhouse paparazzi!”

The ‘crackhead’ stuff is ugly.

222 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:26:32pm

re: #213 b_sharp

I’mma kinda in your camp on this.

223 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:26:53pm

Who is Richard Revette anyway?

I swear I never saw tweets from him before today.

224 freetoken  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:26:59pm

re: #211 Charles Johnson

I saw that story earlier today and immediately concluded that the wingnut usuals would twist their knickers over the apparent paradox.

Unfortunately, news story writers aren’t helping.

225 lawhawk  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:27:30pm

re: #217 sattv4u2

But you do get that someone who picks and chooses items on which to write has a take on those items. In his case, he’s pushing a global warming denialist position that has no actual basis in science - not when climatologists - the people who study this for a living - are saying that it is indisputable.

So, who’s disputing this? Folks who aren’t climate scientists, paid shills, and the ignorant or information-poor folks who are swayed by the shills and hacks.

226 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:27:58pm

re: #222 chadu

I’mma kinda in your camp on this.

Is that a good idea? My boat sinks a lot.

227 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:28:17pm

re: #217 sattv4u2

The story wasn’t his

he got it from the AP

(AT&T is my “homepage” on the house puter and I was just now scrolling through their top 20 stories and that was one of them)

[Link: news.yahoo.com…]

But the AP story doesn’t just leap from “apparent contradiction” to “junk science” the way Hoft does. It explains why the “contradiction” is, in fact, only apparent:

Ten climate scientists say the idea of less snow and more blizzards makes sense: A warmer world is likely to decrease the overall amount of snow falling each year and shrink snow season. But when it is cold enough for a snowstorm to hit, the slightly warmer air is often carrying more moisture, producing potentially historic blizzards.

Maybe Hoft just didn’t read that far.

228 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:28:42pm

re: #225 lawhawk

But you do get that someone who picks and chooses items on which to write has a take on those items

Absolutley. Hoft is a dolt! He saw the headline and went AH HAA!!!!!

229 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:29:05pm

re: #227 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

see #228

230 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:29:44pm

re: #220 Dark_Falcon

B5 is my very, very favorite sci-fi show of all time.

Closely followed by Firefly.

231 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:30:11pm

And that as my point

Not only didn’t he write it, he didn’t READ it

(but there were pictures!!! ) //

232 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:30:51pm

re: #175 Lidane

Cue the ‘splodey heads and angry tweets:

15 rounds? Someone in the Colorado legislature has an M1 Carbine they wanted grandfathered…

233 engineer cat  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:31:04pm

The year is 2258

any science fiction date for earth after 2800 AD should consider whether the next ice age has started, altho since it has been over 10 thousand years since the last one the next one could happen any time

234 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:31:04pm

re: #226 b_sharp

I have an inflatable raft!

235 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:31:10pm

re: #230 chadu

B5 is my very, very favorite sci-fi show of all time.

Closely followed by Firefly.

I remain a Farscape fan, and I curse the Scifi channel for killing it to keep Stargate alive.

236 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:31:23pm

re: #230 chadu

B5 is my very, very favorite sci-fi show of all time.

Closely followed by Firefly.

Firefly never had a chance. It was cancelled way too early.

237 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:32:03pm

re: #231 sattv4u2

And that as my point

Not only didn’t he write it, he didn’t READ it

(but there were pictures!!! ) //

Any squirrels?

238 erik_t  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:32:49pm

re: #236 b_sharp

Firefly never had a chance. It was cancelled way too early.

I’d rather have a fleeting partial season of absolute majesty than watch a once-proud show be run into the ground, through the crust and into the mantle.

Looking at you, Simpsons.

239 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:33:09pm

re: #237 b_sharp

Any squirrels?

At my doctors appointment? No

But there was one cute gerbil!!

OH ,, ,pictures in the Hoft thingy ,,,,, I dunno!!

240 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:33:38pm

re: #238 erik_t

I’d rather have a fleeting partial season of absolute majesty than watch a once-proud show be run into the ground, through the crust and into the mantle.

Looking at you, Simpsons.

Stargate.

241 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:34:34pm

Link

The best intro of all time.

242 lawhawk  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:34:36pm

re: #235 Kragar (Antichrist )

For me it was Farscape, B5, ST:TOS, and then BSG (reimagined).

243 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:34:41pm

re: #238 erik_t

I’d rather have a fleeting partial season of absolute majesty than watch a once-proud show be run into the ground, through the crust and into the mantle.

Looking at you, Simpsons.

Don’t you be dissin’ Homer. I pattern my life on him.

244 erik_t  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:35:19pm

re: #240 Kragar (Antichrist )

Stargate.

Apophis wept.

245 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:37:34pm

re: #230 chadu

B5 is my very, very favorite sci-fi show of all time.

Closely followed by Firefly.

B5 was ok, some good dialog writing if nothing else.

But I could never get into “Outlaw Josey Wales In SPAACCEEEE!!!”

246 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:38:46pm

re: #241 chadu

Link

The best into of all time.

Clearly you forget the actual best:

247 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:40:04pm

re: #245 William Barnett-Lewis

Just repeat that back to yourself and ponder it: Outlaw Josey Wales In SPAACCEEEE!!!

With elements of Hang ‘Em High and High Plains Drifter.

248 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:41:39pm

re: #247 chadu

Just repeat that back to yourself and ponder it: Outlaw Josey Wales In SPAACCEEEE!!!

With elements of Hang ‘Em High and High Plains Drifter.

And props recycled from Starship Troopers.

249 Kronocide  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:42:08pm

Hoft is a barometer of the lowest common denominator. Willfully misunderstanding a subject creates the base justification for dismissing it. Any potential bit of information that could possible be construed as counterintuitive is therefore accepted as contradiction, therefore, structural fault.

The very existence of complexity or nuance is in and of itself justification for dismissal.

250 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:42:26pm

re: #246 Kragar (Antichrist )

Clearly you forget the actual best:

[Embedded content]

Then there’s this:

251 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:43:16pm

re: #246 Kragar (Antichrist )

That’s good, but it’s not the best.

Link

252 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:43:19pm

Thinking about it for a moment, I’d have to say the absolute best TV SF was “Blake’s 7” with it’s deconstruction of the ST:TOS worldview.

2 - ST:TOS
3 - TNG
4 - Dr. Who
5 - Quantum Leap (before it jumped the shark)

253 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:44:33pm

re: #251 chadu

That’s good, but it’s not the best.

Link

There are actually lyrics to go along with the song.

254 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:46:40pm

re: #253 Kragar (Antichrist )

That HAS to be a back-formation. Still, credit where credit is due; gave you the upding.

255 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:47:36pm

re: #254 chadu

That HAS to be a back-formation. Still, credit where credit is due; gave you the upding.

Nope, it played as the closing credits to the original episode.

256 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:48:34pm

Whoops, sorry, absolute best sci-fi music here:

Link

257 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:49:06pm

re: #255 Kragar (Antichrist )

NO WAI!?!

258 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:50:07pm

re: #253 Kragar (Antichrist )

There are actually lyrics to go along with the song.

[Embedded content]

Roddenberry’s lyrics for the ST:TOS theme:

259 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:50:44pm

re: #256 chadu

Whoops, sorry, absolute best sci-fi music here:

Link

Challenge Accepted:

260 RadicalModerate  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:52:15pm

re: #250 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Then there’s this:

[Embedded content]

You are ALL wrong.

Best SF theme music ever here.

261 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:53:31pm

re: #260 RadicalModerate

You are ALL wrong.

Best SF theme music ever here.

[Embedded content]

262 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:54:04pm

re: #259 Kragar (Antichrist )

Half-credit.

What was that, warmed-over Black Sabbath versus directly written Queen lyrics.

Bring a better game, pard.

I’m your huckleberry.

263 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:54:20pm

You are all wrong.

Wait, what are we arguing about now?

264 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:55:13pm

re: #262 chadu

Half-credit.

What was that, warmed-over Black Sabbath versus directly written Queen lyrics.

Bring a better game, pard.

I’m your huckleberry.

You’re forgetting that Dio beats everything.

265 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:55:28pm

Wait, Iron Maiden did a Prisoner cover?

Fuck me twice on Sunday.

266 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:55:47pm

Dr. Who theme or bust.

267 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:55:51pm

re: #264 Kragar (Antichrist )

Does Dio beat Spock?

268 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:56:11pm

re: #266 dragonfire1981

KLF version?

269 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:57:35pm

re: #265 chadu

Wait, Iron Maiden did a Prisoner cover?

Fuck me twice on Sunday.

Not a cover, they just wrote a song referencing the show.

Now if you want a direct sci-fi, we can have Iron Maiden sing about Dune.

270 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:57:39pm

re: #262 chadu

Half-credit.

What was that, warmed-over Black Sabbath versus directly written Queen lyrics.

Bring a better game, pard.

I’m your huckleberry.

You want it, you got it:

271 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:57:40pm

I hate it when the loop flies over my head.

272 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:57:55pm

re: #267 chadu

Does Dio beat Spock?

Of course.

273 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:59:39pm

re: #270 Dark_Falcon

You did NOT just hit me with Holst.

Bastard.

/

;)

274 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:00:33pm

re: #272 Kragar (Antichrist )

This is an obvious question, but what’s the Dio finger position?

275 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:00:52pm

re: #273 chadu

You did NOT just hit me with Holst.

Bastard.

/

;)

You asked for it.

276 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:01:05pm

re: #273 chadu

You did NOT just hit me with Holst.

Bastard.

/

;)

277 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:01:51pm

re: #274 chadu

This is an obvious question, but what’s the Dio finger position?

Image: Ronnie-James-Dio-4.jpg

278 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:02:42pm

re: #275 Dark_Falcon

And now I have to listen to ALL of the Planets.

Dirty trick, DF. Well-done. ;)

279 danarchy  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:03:35pm

re: #267 chadu

Does Dio beat Spock?

Not sure, but I am pretty sure lizard and paper do.

Rock paper scissors lizard spock

280 lawhawk  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:03:44pm
281 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:03:53pm

re: #277 Kragar (Antichrist )

Getting a 403 Forbidden from that site.

282 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:04:43pm

re: #281 chadu

Getting a 403 Forbidden from that site.

Obviously you’re not cool enough to rate Dio.
/

Image: Dio++horns+BW.jpg

283 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:05:59pm

re: #279 danarchy

Yes, you have understood the existential question of who beats Spock. He’s weird.

284 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:07:35pm

re: #282 Kragar (Antichrist )

Oh, hell it’s on!

:)

Loved Dio back in the day, 83.

Next?

285 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:08:25pm

re: #278 chadu

And now I have to listen to ALL of the Planets.

Dirty trick, DF. Well-done. ;)

If you liked it, upding it.

286 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:10:14pm

WND is running a new 10 commandments campaign. I’ll quote, but won’t link:

The campaign kicks off this week with 11 major billboards – all in the heart of what some call “sin city,” Las Vegas. Farah is asking for contributions from those who recognize the Ten Commandments represent the glue that holds civilization together to take the campaign nationwide.

“The problem is America is not limited to atheists, agnostics, cults and non-believers,” says Farah. “In fact, the biggest problem America has is with those who call themselves believers but who act no differently than the worldliest individuals on the planet. You can call these people backslidden. You can call them false converts. Or you can call them undiscipled, nominal believers. What they all have in common is they are not in obedience to God. They are not even trying to follow the most basic moral law, as Jesus and the prophets all instructed.”

With that in mind, Farah is planning to erect hundreds of Ten Commandments billboards around the country in a move that is sure to annoy the American Civil Liberties Union and the organized atheists with the help of like-minded and like-spirited partners.

“The goal is two-fold,” Farah says. “I want to prick the consciences of believers and non-believers alike, and I want Americans to see the basis of all our laws as handed down by God at Mount Sinai in hopes they will repent of their sins and turn back to their Creator.”

America has never needed a campaign like this so badly, he says.

287 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:11:27pm

re: #285 Dark_Falcon

I did, and now I’m listening to Jupiter.

Wait, did Holst count Pluto?

288 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:13:21pm

Listening to classical music and debating about 80s rockers. WELCOME TO MY LIFE, INTERNETS!

289 Iwouldprefernotto  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:13:31pm

re: #286 Kragar (Antichrist )

WND is running a new 10 commandments campaign. I’ll quote, but won’t link:

When WND ran the “where’s the birth certificate” signs I wanted to blow them up. This, not so much. I also love that they are running this in Vegas, a city built on fun. I guess it’s the opposite of preaching to the converted. I only wish that I was making money from this.

290 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:14:52pm

re: #289 Iwouldprefernotto

It was a cheap place to congregate.

291 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:17:21pm

Still *crickets* from the wingnuts about Obama receiving this Israeli award.

292 engineer cat  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:17:28pm

What they all have in common is they are not in obedience to God. They are not even trying to follow the most basic moral law, as Jesus and the prophets all instructed

i wonder if this farah person could take the trouble to be specific about which moral laws or commandments they are most worried about

293 Iwouldprefernotto  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:19:28pm

re: #292 engineer cat

What they all have in common is they are not in obedience to God. They are not even trying to follow the most basic moral law, as Jesus and the prophets all instructed

i wonder if this farah person could take the trouble to be specific about which moral laws or commandments they are most worried about

The ones that state the Govt should not take away our guns.

294 SpaceJesus  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:19:50pm

ugh, why is freep down in this moment of glorious winger rage

295 Kronocide  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:20:17pm

Farah = spiritual leader of Tea Quaeda

296 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:20:41pm

re: #294 SpaceJesus

ugh, why is freep down in this moment of glorious winger rage

Tomorrow is the Day of Wingnut Rage, when SCOTUS rules on Orly’s Birther case.

297 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:21:14pm

LIB TROLL HATER: That would be ME, correcting a Fake Quote.

298 engineer cat  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:21:49pm

Commandments represent the glue

10 commandments: anti coveting

capitalism: based on coveting

299 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:21:59pm

re: #288 chadu

Listening to classical music and debating about 80s rockers. WELCOME TO MY LIFE, INTERNETS!

80s Rockers? Dio had an active music career across 5 decades. He is not “an 80s Rocker.”

300 SpaceJesus  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:22:40pm

re: #296 Vicious Babushka

But one of Freep’s last great illusions is that Israel is some kind of conservative biblical obama-hating paradise. I want to see this smashed to bits and drink from their tears.

301 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:23:31pm

re: #288 chadu

Listening to classical music and debating about 80s rockers. WELCOME TO MY LIFE, INTERNETS!

I am so totally enjoying the Big Box O’Mozart that I downloaded 2 weeks ago.

302 engineer cat  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:24:05pm

80s rockers

btw - what rock n roll styles come after grunge?

303 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:24:29pm

re: #297 Vicious Babushka

LIB TROLL HATER: That would be ME, correcting a Fake Quote.

Why should Obama be “held”… aw, forget it! That one is just too dumb for me to reply to it.

304 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:26:13pm

re: #302 engineer cat

80s rockers

btw - what rock n roll styles come after grunge?

CRAP! Now get off my lawn.
/

305 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:26:13pm

re: #301 Vicious Babushka

I am so totally enjoying the Big Box O’Mozart that I downloaded 2 weeks ago.

Is that the freeze-dried or vacuum packed Mozart?

306 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:26:19pm

re: #299 Kragar (Antichrist )

Well, that is when I encountered him.

Discussion amended.

307 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:28:17pm

Ronnie James Dio from the early 60s

308 engineer cat  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:29:33pm

re: #304 Kragar (Antichrist )

CRAP! Now get off my lawn.
/

you crazy kids and your ya ya ya music

when you get a little older and have kids of your own you’ll appreciate real music like perry como

now get me a can of rheingold….

309 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:30:28pm

re: #307 Kragar (Antichrist )

That is fricking awesome.

310 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:31:34pm

re: #308 engineer cat

Both Perry Como and Bobby Vinton are from my hometown.

311 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:32:15pm

re: #310 chadu

Both Perry Como and Bobby Vinton are from my hometown.

Sorry to hear that.

312 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:32:34pm

re: #308 engineer cat

Perry Como used to cut my grandfather’s hair.

313 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:33:21pm

This person is so fucking dumb.

314 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:33:43pm

re: #311 b_sharp

No, it’s kinda awesome.

I mean, it’s not Hoboken, but I have a history of crooners.

315 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:33:52pm

re: #309 chadu

That is fricking awesome.

Ronnie Dio & The Prophets - Gonna Make It Alone

316 calochortus  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:35:16pm

re: #294 SpaceJesus

ugh, why is freep down in this moment of glorious winger rage

Because, like wingnut heads, it exploded?

317 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:36:16pm

Ronnie James Dio and Elf in 1972

318 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:37:10pm

re: #315 Kragar (Antichrist )

Shit, send me a list so I can spend money on the iTunes. I obviously need to know more RJD.

Thank you. This 50s/60s stuff is changing my opinion.

319 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:37:37pm

re: #314 chadu

No, it’s kinda awesome.

I mean, it’s not Hoboken, but I have a history of crooners.

Teasing you.

320 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:39:41pm

Who wants to talk about St. Francis Albert of Hoboken?

321 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:40:08pm

re: #318 chadu

Shit, send me a list so I can spend money on the iTunes. I obviously need to know more RJD.

Thank you. This 50s/60s stuff is changing my opinion.

Hit youtube and search for “Ronnie and the redcaps”, “Ronnie and the Prophets”, and “Dio Elf” and you’ll find a bunch of his stuff from the 60s and 70s.

My personal favorite, also from 1972:

322 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:40:44pm

re: #321 Kragar (Antichrist )

Thanks, mang.

323 Lidane  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:42:09pm

re: #313 Vicious Babushka

This person is so fucking dumb.

At least we know who to blame for that. //////

324 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:43:10pm

re: #323 Lidane

I have no words.

325 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:44:15pm

And hey, can you add on a couple more hashtags?

326 engineer cat  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:45:22pm

re: #320 chadu

Who wants to talk about St. Francis Albert of Hoboken?

what else is there to say except ‘doo bee doo bee doo’?

327 austin_blue  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:45:32pm

re: #301 Vicious Babushka

I am so totally enjoying the Big Box O’Mozart that I downloaded 2 weeks ago.

Mozart wrote pretty, complex tunes for small orchestra and light opera. Bright kid, but he burned out like a member of The Pretenders and croaked.

It would be interesting to see, if he had lived longer, if he grew a set of stones like Beethoven did, and write masterpieces. He may have just continued to be a pop music writer in his dotage. Pretty, complex, but ultimately empty.

328 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:45:51pm

re: #325 chadu

And hey, can you add on a couple more hashtags?

Here is one they could all use

#ihavenoreadingcomprehensionorcriticalthinkingabilitywhatsoever

329 Kronocide  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:46:11pm

re: #324 chadu

I have no words.

I have two: fucking moron.

330 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:46:17pm

Wapor Vapor.
How the fuck does it work?!

331 kirkspencer  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:46:26pm

re: #297 Vicious Babushka

LIB TROLL HATER: That would be ME, correcting a Fake Quote.

When more than half the message is hashtag, perhaps it’s the wrong message?

332 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:47:14pm

re: #330 Varek Raith

Wapor Vapor.
How the fuck does it work?!

Gays, women, and minorities get rights, and it makes baby Jesus cry, which is where the rain comes from.

Simple as that.

333 Lidane  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:47:51pm

Because we all know who has been uncivil since 2008:

334 calochortus  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:48:14pm

re: #332 Kragar (Antichrist )

Gays, women, and minorities get rights, and it makes baby Jesus cry, which is where the rain comes from.

Simple as that.

Interesting concept. We here in CA need some rain. Shall I go sin and see if that helps?

335 Kronocide  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:48:38pm
336 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:49:16pm

re: #297 Vicious Babushka

LIB TROLL HATER: That would be ME, correcting a Fake Quote.

Does this mean you’re a lib who hates trolls? That doesn’t sound so bad, considering.

337 austin_blue  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:49:52pm

re: #334 calochortus

Interesting concept. We here in CA need some rain. Shall I go sin and see if that helps?

Hells, yes! I’ve been raising hell down here in Austin. Hasn’t helped yet, but I’m just having a blast!

338 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:50:16pm

Update: the audio tape clears Alec Baldwin of the NY Post’s racial slur charge: [Link: www.tmz.com…]

339 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:50:34pm

The racist asshole who slapped a black baby on an airplane has gotten canned from his job:

Joe Hundley, the airline passenger who is accused of slapping a 19-month-old baby after telling his mother to shut that “n*gger baby up,” has been fired by his employer, according to KARE TV.

Al Haase, the president and CEO of Aerospace and Defense, Composite Group released this statement regarding the matter:

“Reports of the recent behavior of one of our business unit executives while on personal travel are offensive and disturbing.”

He called Hundley’s behavior “embarrassing” and “contradictory to our values.”

As we reported, Hundley, 60, was charged with simple assault after he allegedly hit the 19-month-old boy who had started to cry.

Jessica Bennett, the child’s mother, says her son began crying as the pressure changed when the plane descended. She says that’s when Hundley allegedly slapped her son.

According to court documents, Bennett alleges Hundley leaned over and said, “Shut that [N-word] baby up!” before slapping the child and causing him to bleed and cry even harder.

According to the AGC Aerospace and Defense, Composites Group statement, the company has taken the matter very seriously and says that as of Sunday, Hundley is no longer employed with them.

The Composites Group just threw out the trash.

341 austin_blue  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:51:38pm

re: #338 Charles Johnson

Update: the audio tape clears Alec Baldwin of the NY Post’s racial slur charge: [Link: www.tmz.com…]

Shocka!!! The Post didn’t get its facts straight?!?! That’s unpossible!

342 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:51:49pm

re: #327 austin_blue

Mozart wrote pretty, complex tunes for small orchestra and light opera. Bright kid, but he burned out like a member of The Pretenders and croaked.

It would be interesting to see, if he had lived longer, if he grew a set of stones like Beethoven did, and write masterpieces. He may have just continued to be a pop music writer in his dotage. Pretty, complex, but ultimately empty.

Read a short story a few years back about a guy who invents a time machine and uses it rescue his favorite composer who had a reputation for drugs, womanizing and was presumed to have died during a plague.

So he brings the guy to the modern day and shows him how people are still listening to his work and how he can keep being a great composer of classical music. The composer starts learning more about the modern world, decides “screw classical music, I’m going to be a rock star” and dies of an overdose inside of a year.

343 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:52:54pm

re: #340 Charles Johnson

Report: No Racial Slurs Heard on Alec Baldwin Audio - UPI.com

Which means 10 years from now, some asshat will still trot it out as proof that liberals hate minorities.

344 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:52:59pm
345 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:53:11pm

re: #327 austin_blue

Mozart wrote pretty, complex tunes for small orchestra and light opera. Bright kid, but he burned out like a member of The Pretenders and croaked.

It would be interesting to see, if he had lived longer, if he grew a set of stones like Beethoven did, and write masterpieces. He may have just continued to be a pop music writer in his dotage. Pretty, complex, but ultimately empty.

I reject your thesis that Mozart didn’t write masterpieces. However, I’ve occasionally wondered what Mozart might have produced if he’d had the chance to hear middle-period Beethoven (which he would have done if he’d reached his 50’s).

346 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:53:33pm
347 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:53:39pm

re: #333 Lidane

Because we all know who has been uncivil since 2008:

348 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:53:49pm

Korean mass transit moving towards wireless power

The world is slowly making the switch over to electric power, and while some mass transit systems have been powered by electricity for a while, it’s usually delivered through overhead cables that connect to the buses and trains at all times. However, Korea is moving away from overhead cables in favor of wireless power to its mass transit vehicles.

…The technology uses inductive charging to wirelessly transmit electricity from the ground to coils underneath the floor of electric vehicles. The ground has embedded power cables that transmit electricity to the pick-up coils. So far during testing, engineers have recorded an 85% transmission efficiency with the cables and coils.

Wireless power? Cool!

349 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:53:55pm
350 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:54:44pm

re: #338 Charles Johnson

Update: the audio tape clears Alec Baldwin of the NY Post’s racial slur charge: [Link: www.tmz.com…]

Good. I’m glad Alec Baldwin didn’t utter racial slurs.

351 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:54:46pm
352 Lidane  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:54:57pm

re: #338 Charles Johnson

Update: the audio tape clears Alec Baldwin of the NY Post’s racial slur charge: [Link: www.tmz.com…]

Unpossible! We all know the lamestream media is just defending a librul actor!

353 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:55:40pm

re: #348 NJDhockeyfan

Korean mass transit moving towards wireless power

Wireless power? Cool!

Little kids and dogs have used that for thousands of years.

354 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:55:41pm
355 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:55:44pm

re: #351 Kragar (Antichrist )

Now let’s see if he retracts it.

356 aagcobb  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:56:59pm

re: #342 Kragar (Antichrist )

Read a short story a few years back about a guy who invents a time machine and uses it rescue his favorite composer who had a reputation for drugs, womanizing and was presumed to have died during a plague.

So he brings the guy to the modern day and shows him how people are still listening to his work and how he can keep being a great composer of classical music. The composer starts learning more about the modern world, decides “screw classical music, I’m going to be a rock star” and dies of an overdose inside of a year.

I read that story!

357 engineer cat  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:57:40pm

re: #345 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

I reject your thesis that Mozart didn’t write masterpieces. However, I’ve occasionally wondered what Mozart might have produced if he’d had the chance to hear middle-period Beethoven (which he would have done if he’d reached his 50’s).

my favorite composer fantasy involves bringing my favorite composer js bach back to life in the modern era (maybe swoop in and save him from his last cataract operation that killed him)

i imagine him listening to recordings of all important music since his death and then being asked who was the most important composer/musician of the last hundred years. according to me, he would have to say

“vy, tcharlie parrrkerr, of course!”

358 kirkspencer  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:58:31pm

re: #339 Dark_Falcon

The racist asshole who slapped a black baby on an airplane has gotten canned from his job:

The Composites Group just threw out the trash.

I have a problem with that. See, he’s accused of this. Charges have been filed. But he has not been convicted.

What if he’s found innocent?

Let me give you one little piece of the evidence that bothers me. That’s the witness statement, of this man who says he heard this, turned, and saw the slap.

The witness was sitting in row 1. The incident was in row 18. The flight was descending into Atlanta.

Ever been on a plane with a crying baby half the plane away? Every try to hear what anyone next to you, much less half the plane away, was saying?

So I’m torn. If he did it he deserves all the crap that can be delivered. But… did he do it? And should he be punished before all the facts come out?

359 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:58:40pm

re: #346 Vicious Babushka

I just gassed up for $3.62. Some woman there was mad because she said it was $3.48 this morning.

360 calochortus  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:59:58pm

re: #359 NJDhockeyfan

I just gassed up for $3.62. Some woman there was mad because she said it was $3.48 this morning.

I suppose she was a free market capitalist conservative? //

361 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:00:19pm

re: #354 Vicious Babushka

That one was so absurd that I wondered if this might not be a parody account. Then I check the actual feed, and found out that this lady is absolutely nuts, she’s not faking it.

362 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:00:46pm

re: #360 calochortus

I suppose she was a free market capitalist conservative? //

No idea. She was pissed off, I know that.

363 Iwouldprefernotto  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:01:12pm

re: #361 Dark_Falcon

That one was so absurd that I wondered if this might not be a parody account. Then I check the actual feed, and found out that this lady is absolutely nuts, she’s not faking it.

Hold Obama responsible for the Cubs not winning.

364 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:02:09pm

re: #359 NJDhockeyfan

I just gassed up for $3.62. Some woman there was mad because she said it was $3.48 this morning.

I just gassed up for $.22 per pickle.

365 Iwouldprefernotto  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:02:21pm

Conservative
@ChristiChat
PATRIOTS STAND UNITED! WE Will Survive & Succeed! Mom~Wife~Small Business Owner~I LOVE MY COUNTRY & GOD! #OCRA #TGDN #TCOT #2A #NRA #LNYHBT Rush Beck Drudge USA

366 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:02:36pm

re: #358 kirkspencer

I have a problem with that. See, he’s accused of this. Charges have been filed. But he has not been convicted.

What if he’s found innocent?

Let me give you one little piece of the evidence that bothers me. That’s the witness statement, of this man who says he heard this, turned, and saw the slap.

The witness was sitting in row 1. The incident was in row 18. The flight was descending into Atlanta.

Ever been on a plane with a crying baby half the plane away? Every try to hear what anyone next to you, much less half the plane away, was saying?

So I’m torn. If he did it he deserves all the crap that can be delivered. But… did he do it? And should he be punished before all the facts come out?

An actual trial will take months, and in the meantime the bad publicity will still be swirling around him. When you are an ‘At Will’ employee, the bad publicity alone is reason enough for termination; The truth of the allegation is of secondary import.

367 Kronocide  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:03:05pm

I LOVE MY COUNTRY AND GOD AND VELVEETA!

368 erik_t  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:03:08pm

re: #359 NJDhockeyfan

I just gassed up for $3.62. Some woman there was mad because she said it was $3.48 this morning.

You can gas up all day for only $5.99 at Chipotle.

369 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:03:40pm

re: #363 Iwouldprefernotto

Hold Obama responsible for the Cubs not winning.

I can’t: They’ve been losers longer than he’s been alive.

370 calochortus  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:03:55pm

re: #362 NJDhockeyfan

No idea. She was pissed off, I know that.

Yup, there is something particularly annoying about putting something off, like gassing up the car and then having it cost you more later that same day.

A couple years ago we looked at where gas prices were going and bought a Prius when our older vehicle finally died. Problem solved.

371 kirkspencer  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:04:00pm

re: #366 Dark_Falcon

An actual trial will take months, and in the meantime the bad publicity will still be swirling around him. When you are an ‘At Will’ employee, the bad publicity alone is reason enough for termination; The truth of the allegation is of secondary import.

And this changes the problem how?

372 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:04:08pm

re: #365 Iwouldprefernotto

Conservative
@ChristiChat
PATRIOTS STAND UNITED! WE Will Survive & Succeed! Mom~Wife~Small Business Owner~I LOVE MY COUNTRY & GOD! #OCRA #TGDN #TCOT #2A #NRA #LNYHBT Rush Beck Drudge USA

That says it all.

373 klys  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:04:18pm

re: #369 Dark_Falcon

I can’t: They’ve been losers longer than he’s been alive.

Pfft, that’s not what his social security number says!

///

374 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:04:20pm

re: #369 Dark_Falcon

I can’t: They’ve been losers longer than he’s been alive.

Than almost anyone on the planet for that matter.
/

375 erik_t  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:04:32pm

re: #363 Iwouldprefernotto

Hold Obama responsible for the Cubs not winning.

Cubderp is at the foundation of our modern democracy.

376 calochortus  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:06:46pm

re: #369 Dark_Falcon

I can’t: They’ve been losers longer than he’s been alive.

That just shows Obama’s satanic powers.

377 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:07:58pm

Homicidal Fantasies:

378 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:09:56pm

re: #371 kirkspencer

And this changes the problem how?

It’s not a problem, IMO: An employee who has had a scandal like that attach itself to him is a liability to his employer. As such, it is appropriate for the employer to fire him.

379 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:13:29pm

re: #357 engineer cat

my favorite composer fantasy involves bringing my favorite composer js bach back to life in the modern era (maybe swoop in and save him from his last cataract operation that killed him)

i imagine him listening to recordings of all important music since his death and then being asked who was the most important composer/musician of the last hundred years. according to me, he would have to say

“vy, tcharlie parrrkerr Johann Coltrane, of course!”

Fixed that for you. ;)

380 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:15:13pm

I will cancel polls, says Ahmadinejad in fresh power bid

President Ahmadinejad of Iran has warned that he could scrap this summer’s presidential election, threatening to drag the Islamic Republic into a constitutional crisis as he attempts to retain power.

With months to go until Iranians vote for his successor in June, Mr Ahmadinejad has reignited his bitter power struggle with Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the Supreme Leader.

In an open letter published on his website at the weekend, Mr Ahmadinejad issued the veiled threat that if his right-hand man, Esfandiar Rahim Mashaei, is not approved as a presidential candidate, he could declare the election void and retain power himself.

Heh. Coming up…Dinnerjacket vs Mullahs cage match!

381 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:15:27pm

re: #359 NJDhockeyfan

I just gassed up for $3.62. Some woman there was mad because she said it was $3.48 this morning.

Price of gas just before the housing bubble crash in 2008 was $4.15. Overall average during Bush’s 2nd term was higher than the past 4 years.

Wingnuts have short term memory loss and they think you do too.

382 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:17:17pm

DROOOONNESS!

FAA Working To Fill The Sky With Drones

Last week, President Barack Obama approved legislation that will likely rapidly increase the use of drones for surveillance in the United States.

The FAA Modernization Act of 2012, which contains provisions to modernize aviation laws and to immediately integrate unmanned aircraft systems, was signed into law by Obama Thursday.

Meanwhile, the Federal Aviation Administration called on State and local governments as well as universities to compete to be the location of one of six unmanned aircraft test sites the agency will operate as mandated by the 2012 FAA Reauthorization Act. The agency says it will use the sites to better understand the dangers and benefits of domestic drones before they are fully introduced to the National Airspace System by 2015.

“We expect to learn how unmanned aircraft systems operate in different environments and how they will impact air traffic operations,” FAA Chief Michael Huerta said in a statement. “The test sites will inform the agency as we develop standards for certifying unmanned aircraft and determine necessary air traffic requirements.”

383 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:18:52pm

re: #380 NJDhockeyfan

I will cancel polls, says Ahmadinejad in fresh power bid

Heh. Coming up…Dinnerjacket vs Mullahs cage match!

“Two Asses Enter, One Ass Leaves!”

384 celticdragon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:18:58pm

Curious. I cannot see any comments here at all on any of the pages.

385 Sionainn  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:20:50pm

re: #358 kirkspencer

I have a problem with that. See, he’s accused of this. Charges have been filed. But he has not been convicted.

What if he’s found innocent?

Let me give you one little piece of the evidence that bothers me. That’s the witness statement, of this man who says he heard this, turned, and saw the slap.

The witness was sitting in row 1. The incident was in row 18. The flight was descending into Atlanta.

Ever been on a plane with a crying baby half the plane away? Every try to hear what anyone next to you, much less half the plane away, was saying?

So I’m torn. If he did it he deserves all the crap that can be delivered. But… did he do it? And should he be punished before all the facts come out?

The mother was in row 28. The witness was in row 16. He heard commotion behind him, got up and headed back, and saw the slap.

387 kirkspencer  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:22:17pm

re: #378 Dark_Falcon

It’s not a problem, IMO: An employee who has had a scandal like that attach itself to him is a liability to his employer. As such, it is appropriate for the employer to fire him.

Regardless of truth. OK.

You have just described the core reason I object to “at will” states. The laws are passed to “protect the worker” from unions. Unions which, in this case, would tell the business to shove it. In other words they’re not to protect the worker, they’re to protect the company.

Because if this man turns out to be innocent, it doesn’t matter. He’s 60. As you said it’ll be a long time before the trial is finished. After a year he’s pretty much unemployable. Because he was fired he loses a bunch of benefits - and he can’t sue because it’s “right to work”.

He is screwed.

If he’s guilty that’s OK. But if he’s innocent… I have this apparently naive belief that one of the cornerstones of this nation is that our system tries to protect the innocent, to prevent harm to the extent possible to those falsely accused. Apparently that nation does not exist. Instead if you hamper that bottom line you just need to go away. Don’t let your corpse block the driveway, please, the janitor was outsourced last week.

388 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:23:21pm

re: #382 Dark_Falcon

DROOOONNESS!

FAA Working To Fill The Sky With Drones

They are already banned around here.

Virginia city becomes first to pass anti-drone resolution

389 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:23:59pm

STAY CLASSY, TGDN.

390 erik_t  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:25:02pm

re: #389 Vicious Babushka

STAY CLASSY, TGDN.

@GulfDogs Did Obama have a nose job?#TEAPARTY #TCOT #TGDN #BRTT #CCOT #PATRIOT #LIBERTYhttp://is.gd/VQSxaN

Of course not. Barack Obama and Barry Soetoro just have slightly different facial features.

/

391 engineer cat  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:27:55pm

re: #379 William Barnett-Lewis

Fixed that for you. ;)

mmmmm coltrane is one of the great greats but it was charlie parker that invented modern jazz nearly single handedly

392 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:28:50pm

re: #388 NJDhockeyfan

They are already banned around here.

Virginia city becomes first to pass anti-drone resolution

That law doesn’t ban them, it just says that the city won’t use evidence gathered by drones in court.

393 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:31:02pm

re: #380 NJDhockeyfan

I will cancel polls, says Ahmadinejad in fresh power bid

Heh. Coming up…Dinnerjacket vs Mullahs cage match!

I don’t think it’s apower play as much as an attempt at self preservation. Ahmedinijad’s close associates have been being arrested over the past couple years. A very close ally of his even defected while in New York for the UN speech because he was afraid of being arrested on his return to Iran. Like many authoritarian countries, they have no mercy for those who leave power. Unless Ahmedinijad has a close ally replace him then he risks being arrested and tried for something after he leaves office.

394 Achilles Tang  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:31:12pm

re: #388 NJDhockeyfan

They are already banned around here.

Virginia city becomes first to pass anti-drone resolution

ALL DRONES MUST BE MANUALLY PILOTED IN OUR AIRSPACE; SAYS CHIEF WINGNUT!

395 wrenchwench  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:36:16pm

re: #389 Vicious Babushka

STAY CLASSY, TGDN.

Looks like he had a ‘hair job’.

396 biorabbi  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:36:56pm

Israel has a special place in my heart, but this crap/bullshit which states Obama is some sort of closet anti-semite is such a load of crap. There was the campaign meme that the real, evil Obama would be unleashed in his second term… hating on Israel with his preacher. The irony here is the actual Obama is someone who obviously feels quite close to Jewish people as his own friendships and associations prove.

On Iran, he’s worked hand in glove with Israel as detailed by Netanyahu… who admits this despite political differences.

397 Lidane  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:37:23pm

Making the rounds on FB:

Image: obamaguns.jpg

398 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:39:46pm

Tucker Carlson: Every Wiccan a nerd or a ‘twice-divorced older woman’

Tucker Carlson, the founder of The Daily Caller, attacked Wicca on Sunday, mocking the minority religion for allegedly having too many holidays.

Carlson appeared on the Fox News show Fox & Friends Sunday to discuss the University of Missouri’s “Holiday and Recommended Accommodations” guide, which lists eight Wiccan holidays.

“The bad side of Wiccanism is it’s obviously a form of witchcraft,” he said. “But the upside is you get a ton of holidays. Twenty percent of all school holidays, as described by the University of Missouri, are Wiccan holidays. Twenty percent of all.”

Though the Fox & Friends Sunday hosts suggested Wiccans received special treatment, the guide does not recommend any accommodations for Wiccan holidays, unlike many of the other religious holidays listed.

399 Lidane  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:41:43pm

Watching The Big Lebowski again. I love this movie. Jeff Bridges has one of my favorite lines ever: “Walter, I love you, but sooner or later, you’re going to have to face the fact you’re a goddamn moron.”

400 klys  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:42:31pm

re: #398 Kragar (Antichrist )

I wish I could say I’m surprised, but…

401 Lidane  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:45:39pm

re: #398 Kragar (Antichrist )

Tucker Carlson: Every Wiccan a nerd or a ‘twice-divorced older woman’

Tucker Carlson has clearly never seen a Catholic calendar. 2013 has 17 different holy days of obligationand feasts. Eight holidays for Wicca? Pfft. Amateurs.

402 blueraven  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:46:27pm

re: #358 kirkspencer

I have a problem with that. See, he’s accused of this. Charges have been filed. But he has not been convicted.

What if he’s found innocent?

Let me give you one little piece of the evidence that bothers me. That’s the witness statement, of this man who says he heard this, turned, and saw the slap.

The witness was sitting in row 1. The incident was in row 18. The flight was descending into Atlanta.

Ever been on a plane with a crying baby half the plane away? Every try to hear what anyone next to you, much less half the plane away, was saying?

So I’m torn. If he did it he deserves all the crap that can be delivered. But… did he do it? And should he be punished before all the facts come out?

As has already been mentioned, the witness was 8 rows away, not 18.
The Mom said the man told her to shut that n****r baby up. She said to him…“What did you say?”

At that point she claims he drunkenly fell into her face and whispered something even worse in her ear. That is when he proceeded to slap the baby.

There was plenty of time for the witness to hear racial the slur, make it back to the seat to see him slap that baby.

Also, not his first offense for drunken misbehavior.

403 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:46:55pm

re: #401 Lidane

Tucker Carlson has clearly never seen a Catholic calendar. 2013 has 17 different holy days of obligation. Eight holidays for Wicca? Pfft. Amateurs.

Tucker never got over the cute girl who played D&D telling him to fuck off and quit stalking her.

404 Sionainn  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:48:10pm

re: #402 blueraven

As has already been mentioned the witness was 8 rows away, not 18.
The Mom said the man told her to shut that n*****r baby up. She said to him…“What did you say?”

At that point she claims he drunkenly fell into her face and whispered something even worse in her ear. That is when he proceeded to slap the baby.

There was plenty of time for the witness to hear racial the slur, make it back to the seat to see him slap that baby.

Also, not his first offense for drunken misbehavior.

The fact that he was fired so quickly makes me think that they were not surprised by his behavior and may have been looking for a good reason to get rid of him.

405 Gus  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:49:16pm

re: #388 NJDhockeyfan

They are already banned around here.

Virginia city becomes first to pass anti-drone resolution

Not really a blanket ban. Just that footage/data will not be admissible as evidence in court. I would modify this myself allowing it as evidence but only after a court order has been obtained.

406 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:50:04pm

re: #404 Sionainn

The fact that he was fired so quickly makes me think that they were not surprised by his behavior and may have been looking for a good reason to get rid of him.

I think it was just damage control. They wanted to get rid of problem as swiftly as possible.

407 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:50:24pm

re: #399 Lidane

Watching The Big Lebowski again. I love this movie. Jeff Bridges has one of my favorite lines ever: “Walter, I love you, but sooner or later, you’re going to have to face the fact you’re a goddamn moron.”

My favorite line from TBL: I don’t roll on Shabbos!

408 blueraven  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:51:46pm

re: #406 Dark_Falcon

I think it was just damage control. They wanted to get rid of problem as swiftly as possible.

If they thought there was no way in hell this man did what he is accused of, I doubt they would have fired him.
They could be sued.

409 Lidane  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:52:26pm

re: #407 Vicious Babushka

My favorite line from TBL: I don’t roll on Shabbos!

410 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:52:27pm

re: #405 Gus

Not really a blanket ban. Just that footage/data will not be admissible as evidence in court. I would modify this myself allowing it as evidence but only after a court order has been obtained.

No survivors of the drone strike
No evidence in court needed
no problem!!

///

411 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:53:29pm

re: #404 Sionainn

The fact that he was fired so quickly makes me think that they were not surprised by his behavior and may have been looking for a good reason to get rid of him.

OR ,,, it went viral so fast the PR hit they would have taken of they didn’t do anything would have been huge

412 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:54:04pm

re: #407 Vicious Babushka

My favorite line from TBL: I don’t roll on Shabbos!

“Shut the fuck up, Donny.”

413 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:54:08pm

re: #409 Lidane

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I wish I could give that 1000 updings!

414 kirkspencer  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:54:30pm

re: #402 blueraven

As has already been mentioned the witness was 8 rows away, not 18.
The Mom said the man told her to shut that n*****r baby up. She said to him…“What did you say?”

At that point she claims he drunkenly fell into her face and whispered something even worse in her ear. That is when he proceeded to slap the baby.

There was plenty of time for the witness to hear racial the slur, make it back to the seat to see him slap that baby.

Also, not his first offense for drunken misbehavior.

12 rows. Not 8. see the affidavit’s item 7 here. Yes, I was incorrect in saying 1 and 18. The actual rows are 16 and 28.

And that is beside the point. The point is the man is not yet convicted.

Apparently I’m not making myself clear enough.

Even if the witness had been in the adjacent seat, firing this man for the allegation is wrong. Destroying his life over just the accusation is wrong.

Because if it’s right then it is right to use innuendo and false accusation to destroy someone.

If it’s right, then Breitbart’s video-editors are right. James O’Keefe is right.

And I think that’s wrong.

415 Sionainn  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:54:34pm

re: #411 sattv4u2

OR ,,, it went viral so fast the PR hit they would have taken of they didn’t do anything would have been huge

Meh…I’ve never heard of the company before so I’m not sure how much of it was worried about PR.

416 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:54:59pm

re: #387 kirkspencer

Regardless of truth. OK.

You have just described the core reason I object to “at will” states. The laws are passed to “protect the worker” from unions. Unions which, in this case, would tell the business to shove it. In other words they’re not to protect the worker, they’re to protect the company.

Because if this man turns out to be innocent, it doesn’t matter. He’s 60. As you said it’ll be a long time before the trial is finished. After a year he’s pretty much unemployable. Because he was fired he loses a bunch of benefits - and he can’t sue because it’s “right to work”.

He is screwed.

If he’s guilty that’s OK. But if he’s innocent… I have this apparently naive belief that one of the cornerstones of this nation is that our system tries to protect the innocent, to prevent harm to the extent possible to those falsely accused. Apparently that nation does not exist. Instead if you hamper that bottom line you just need to go away. Don’t let your corpse block the driveway, please, the janitor was outsourced last week.

He can sue and claim wrongful termination, but the suit won’t likely proceed till the criminal case is resolved.

But while I take your point, the best I could support in his case is suspension and given the evidence likely without pay. The fact is that he carries a stench and his working would be detrimental to his employer, due to PR damage. Forcing the the company to endure that damage would be wrong, as the corporation does have rights to protect its own image and values.

417 Gus  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:55:12pm

re: #398 Kragar (Antichrist )

Tucker Carlson: Every Wiccan a nerd or a ‘twice-divorced older woman’

OK. But how long would the school semester be if there was a day off for every religion as noted here? Keep in mind that you would also add the traditional holidays.

418 Achilles Tang  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:55:50pm

re: #405 Gus

Not really a blanket ban. Just that footage/data will not be admissible as evidence in court. I would modify this myself allowing it as evidence but only after a court order has been obtained.

Isn’t that like saying video surveillance is not admissible in court unless a court order was obtained before the crime was committed?

Head bang!!

419 Sionainn  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:56:14pm

re: #414 kirkspencer

12 rows. Not 8. see the affidavit’s item 7 here. Yes, I was incorrect in saying 1 and 18. The actual rows are 16 and 28.

And that is beside the point. The point is the man is not yet convicted.

Apparently I’m not making myself clear enough.

Even if the witness had been in the adjacent seat, firing this man for the allegation is wrong. Destroying his life over just the accusation is wrong.

Because if it’s right then it is right to use innuendo and false accusation to destroy someone.

If it’s right, then Breitbart’s video-editors are right. James O’Keefe is right.

And I think that’s wrong.

Like I said before, the company may not be surprised by this accusation at all. He may have a history of doing really jackass things, but maybe not enough that they felt they could fire him for it. This could have been just what they were waiting for.

420 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:56:38pm

re: #417 Gus

OK. But how long would the school semester be if there was a day off for every religion as noted here? Keep in mind that you would also add the traditional holidays.

A lot of those holidays coincide.

421 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:57:05pm

re: #415 Sionainn

Meh...I’ve never heard of the company before so I’m not sure how much of it was worried about PR.

There are millions of companies non of us have ever heard of. Doesn’t matter. They have customers, or clients, or companies that they interact with that HAVE heard of them. They would be toxic if they didn’t do something to rid themselves of an alleged racist

422 kirkspencer  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:57:30pm

re: #416 Dark_Falcon

He can sue and claim wrongful termination, but the suit won’t likely proceed till the criminal case is resolved.

But while I take your point, the best I could support in his case is suspension and given the evidence likely without pay. The fact is that he carries a stench and his working would be detrimental to his employer, due to PR damage. Forcing the the company to endure that damage would be wrong, as the corporation does have rights to protect its own image and values.

Since Oklahoma is a right-to-work state and he is (guessing by title) an exempt employee, no he can’t sue for wrongful termination. He is screwed.

I hope he’s guilty. Because otherwise an innocent man was destroyed. But I fear for all the innocent men and women who are destroyed this way - because they got on the wrong side of someone who raised a stink.

423 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:57:57pm

re: #417 Gus

OK. But how long would the school semester be if there was a day off for every religion as noted here? Keep in mind that you would also add the traditional holidays.

Lots of counties here in Ga are transitioning to a year round school calendar

424 kirkspencer  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:58:07pm

re: #419 Sionainn

Like I said before, the company may not be surprised by this accusation at all. He may have a history of doing really jackass things, but maybe not enough that they felt they could fire him for it. This could have been just what they were waiting for.

Yep, you said it.

But you don’t know.

425 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:58:53pm

Who is that statue of? John Chivington?

426 Sionainn  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 3:59:03pm

re: #422 kirkspencer

Since Oklahoma is a right-to-work state and he is (guessing by title) an exempt employee, no he can’t sue for wrongful termination. He is screwed.

I hope he’s guilty. Because otherwise an innocent man was destroyed. But I fear for all the innocent men and women who are destroyed this way - because they got on the wrong side of someone who raised a stink.

What makes you think that the mother and the witness made this up about this man?

427 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:00:11pm

YES

428 erik_t  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:00:58pm

re: #427 Vicious Babushka

YES

Generosity… I do not think that word means what you think it means.

429 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:01:05pm

Michael Moore: Report Of Planned Iran Trip Is A “Prank”

“Someone is playing a prank,” Moore said via email.

“Are you serious? Really?” Moore said when asked whether he gave the quotes in question to that outlet. “I did tell them that I once shot a unicorn in Reno (or was it Elko?) just to watch it die. And then I ate it. After I took it to Uranus. Flew coach with Kim Kardashian. Who has carried three of my babies. But we dropped two of them off on Jupiter because the schools are better.”

An Iranian news report quoted Moore saying that “I am now waiting for an opportunity to travel to Iran. Even if they do not invite me this time I will go anyway.”

Moore allegedly told Mehrnameh magazine that he had previously planned to visit Iran, but “the right-wing media in the US began to take a position and published some very critical and hateful articles, they even published faked news about me. So I thought I should postpone visiting Iran to another time

.”

LOL!

430 Gus  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:03:32pm

re: #418 Achilles Tang

Isn’t that like saying video surveillance is not admissible in court unless a court order was obtained before the crime was committed?

Head bang!!

So a drug dealer or a gun runner for example only does a crime once?

431 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:03:38pm

re: #428 erik_t

Generosity… I do not think that word means what you think it means.

I’ll bet this person leaves a “tip” in the form of “GET A REAL JOB” scribbled on the Starbucks tab.

432 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:05:26pm

re: #422 kirkspencer

Since Oklahoma is a right-to-work state and he is (guessing by title) an exempt employee, no he can’t sue for wrongful termination. He is screwed.

I hope he’s guilty. Because otherwise an innocent man was destroyed. But I fear for all the innocent men and women who are destroyed this way - because they got on the wrong side of someone who raised a stink.

Based on my own experiences and those of my best friend, one of the big concerns for a company is also liability, and some of their actions are dictated by their liability insurance provider. The firm needs to protect itself from risk, and if they allowed Handley to keep working pending the outcome of a trial and were in that interim sued by someone claiming Handley had racially discriminated against him/her, then they’d face the allegation that they had failed to act to stop someone they knew was a problem, which could amount to hundreds of thousands in additional damages.

433 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:05:28pm

Still totally *crickets* from TGDN over the Israel award to POTUS.

434 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:06:49pm

re: #425 Vicious Babushka

Who is that statue of? John Chivington?

No, it looks like just a generic Union soldier. The dates are simply those of the Civil War, 1861-1865.

435 Sionainn  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:09:21pm

re: #433 Vicious Babushka

Still totally *crickets* from TGDN over the Israel award to POTUS.

Have you posted anything over there about it?

436 Achilles Tang  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:09:33pm

re: #430 Gus

So a drug dealer or a gun runner for example only does a crime once?

We lost it somewhere; I’m not sure where.

437 Gus  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:10:02pm

re: #429 NJDhockeyfan

Michael Moore: Report Of Planned Iran Trip Is A “Prank”

.”

LOL!

Oops. Well derp me. Guess I must now apologize for my morning comments to the Moore Gods. //

438 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:11:01pm

re: #434 Dark_Falcon

No, it looks like just a generic Union soldier. The dates are simply those of the Civil War, 1861-1865.

Chivington is Colorado’s most famous Civil War fighter (and Native American killer).

439 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:11:21pm

re: #437 Gus

Oops. Well derp me. Guess I must now apologize for my morning comments to the Moore Gods. //

I don’t think we need any more Gods!!

It’s confusing enough with the ones we already have!!
/

440 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:11:45pm

Man, if the conservatives here would focus on fixing their party as much as they focus on shit like Michael Moore and OWS…
Ah, who am I kidding.

441 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:11:52pm

re: #435 Sionainn

Have you posted anything over there about it?

442 kirkspencer  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:12:22pm

re: #426 Sionainn

What makes you think that the mother and the witness made this up about this man?

Read the whole thing I said. I don’t know either way. I have questions that need answered in a trial.

The biggest? How did this man get out of his seat and halfway down the aisle during final descent?

The second biggest? Since they got seats wrong what else did they get wrong? (Flight 721 is an airbus 320. It has 26 rows of seats.)

Why don’t we have an affidavit for the incident, at least for the language, from anyone in the seat to the side or in front of her?

Want a (made up just to answer your question) idea? Try this.

The accused is “genteel racist” - made it plain by implication and posture. And he did tell her to shut that damn baby up (but without the racist language). The woman, pissed, starts yelling “why’d you hit my baby?”. And the witness happens to be black (don’t know, making it for this line), and automatically supports the woman because she’s also black.

And because she was yelling and the man was a southerner and the standing man supported it, a lot of other passengers expressed sympathy.

You want my guess, he’s guilty. I think he is.

But it does not change my core statement. He should not be punished, have his life destroyed, on the accusation.

443 Gus  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:12:27pm

re: #436 Achilles Tang

We lost it somewhere; I’m not sure where.

What I said was they should allow evidence obtained with a drone after the drone was used by obtaining a court order/warrant rather than a blanket ban.

444 Sionainn  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:12:35pm

re: #441 Vicious Babushka

…and they didn’t bite? LOL.

445 Interesting Times  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:13:21pm

re: #441 Vicious Babushka

You forgot the magic hashtags :(

446 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:14:18pm

re: #444 Sionainn

…and they didn’t bite? LOL.

Looks like only ones to post on that topic are me and other EBIL LIBRULS.

447 Kid A  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:15:51pm

Oh, for fuck’s sake…

448 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:16:02pm

re: #438 Vicious Babushka

Chivington is Colorado’s most famous Civil War fighter (and Native American killer).

I know. He was a master at ambushes and the ‘indirect approach’, which was fine when he was fighting Gen. Sibley’s Texans but Chivington went on to use his idea of attacking an enemy’s base of supply to murder Indians at Sand Creek. He was a butcher of women and children and IMO second on the list of the Civil War’s monsters, exceeded only by Nathan Bedford Forrest.

449 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:17:20pm

re: #442 kirkspencer

I agree

BUT,,, the company does have the responsibility to it’s other employees, stockholders (if any), customers and the community to protect itself (see #421)

450 Sionainn  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:18:24pm

re: #442 kirkspencer

Read the whole thing I said. I don’t know either way. I have questions that need answered in a trial.

The biggest? How did this man get out of his seat and halfway down the aisle during final descent?

The second biggest? Since they got seats wrong what else did they get wrong? (Flight 721 is an airbus 320. It has 26 rows of seats.)

Why don’t we have an affidavit for the incident, at least for the language, from anyone in the seat to the side or in front of her?

Want a (made up just to answer your question) idea? Try this.

The accused is “genteel racist” - made it plain by implication and posture. And he did tell her to shut that damn baby up (but without the racist language). The woman, pissed, starts yelling “why’d you hit my baby?”. And the witness happens to be black (don’t know, making it for this line), and automatically supports the woman because she’s also black.

And because she was yelling and the man was a southerner and the standing man supported it, a lot of other passengers expressed sympathy.

You want my guess, he’s guilty. I think he is.

But it does not change my core statement. He should not be punished, have his life destroyed, on the accusation.

Where are you getting that the flight was an Airbus 320? Sometimes it is and sometimes it is an MD90/Q which has 39 rows.

If you heard some man getting loud with a woman and crying baby, some men wouldn’t just sit there, regardless if the plane is getting ready to land or not.

The mother is white. The mother also apparently spent a fair bit of time in the back of the plane to get away from the drunk asshole.

451 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:18:47pm

re: #447 Kid A

Oh, for fuck’s sake…

FAKE.

U CANT TRUST SNOAPS IT TEH EBIL SOROS!1!1!TY

452 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:19:01pm

re: #450 Sionainn

If you heard some man getting loud with a woman and crying baby, some men wouldn’t just sit there, regardless if the plane is getting ready to land or not.

Raises hand

BT/DT

453 Kid A  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:19:18pm

What right-wing racism? (read his handle):

454 Sionainn  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:19:37pm

re: #452 sattv4u2

If you heard some man getting loud with a woman and crying baby, some men wouldn’t just sit there, regardless if the plane is getting ready to land or not.

Raises hand

BT/DT

Good for you!

455 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:20:14pm

re: #453 Kid A

What right-wing racism? (read his handle):

Is Hypno Jive like a Hypno Toad?

456 Achilles Tang  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:21:22pm

re: #443 Gus

What I said was they should allow evidence obtained with a drone after the drone was used by obtaining a court order/warrant rather than a blanket ban.

And I said, what is the difference between a video from a drone, sent purposely or by chance, and a camera on a wall recording continuously? The latter I believe is admissible without question. Or, let’s be even more ridiculous; what is the difference between that and what a person, perhaps a police officer, saw without a warrant (repeatability ignored)?

457 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:21:40pm

What the Fucking Fuck?

458 Gus  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:21:55pm

Oy. The Distinguished Warfare Medal will be one notch below the Distinguished Flying Cross. Above the Soldiers Medal and the Bronze Star. Goofy.

459 Kid A  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:22:11pm

re: #455 Dark_Falcon

If I remember correctly, you’re a White Sox fan, right? How ya think the South Siders are going to play out this season? I think it’ll probably be another “hover around .500” season again. My Disastros made the move to the AL East where they will be lucky to win 55 games.

460 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:23:05pm

re: #458 Gus

Oy. The Distinguished Warfare Medal will be one notch below the Distinguished Flying Cross. Above the Soldiers Medal and the Bronze Star. Goofy.

You’re referring to this article, I take it.

461 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:23:50pm

re: #459 Kid A

If I remember correctly, you’re a White Sox fan, right? How ya think the South Siders are going to play out this season? I think it’ll probably be another “hover around .500” season again. My Disastros made the move to the AL East where they will be lucky to win 55 games.

No, I’m Northside. Cubs, not Sox.

462 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:23:53pm

re: #454 Sionainn

Good for you!

eh,, I was (kinda) politely told to go back to my seat as the flight attendants said they would handle it. But the odd thing was is that I noticed it and got there BEFORE they went to “handle it” To this day I only think they came over because I did

Aftermath, lets just say that the “gentleman” in question and I conversed in the concourse after getting off the plane

463 Gus  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:24:53pm

re: #460 Dark_Falcon

You’re referring to this article, I take it.

Some blog post I just passed by. Checked and they were right. Pretty pathetic if you ask me. They can have their drone medal but seriously? Above the Bronze Star? Then they wonder why they get mad at them.

464 Sionainn  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:25:15pm

re: #457 Vicious Babushka

What the Fucking Fuck?

Clicking on the link leads to this blog.

I know *exactly* what you mean. Let me tell you why you’re here. You’re here because you know something. What you know you can’t explain, but you feel it. You’ve felt it your entire life, that there’s something wrong with the world. You don’t know what it is, but it’s there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad. It is this feeling that has brought you to me. Do you know what I’m talking about?

465 Interesting Times  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:25:51pm

re: #457 Vicious Babushka

What the Fucking Fuck?

Yes, because nothing says “depopulation” like the Gates Foundation efforts to vaccinate people in the third world who’d otherwise die of…oh screw it, this derp-tweeter is probably an anti-vaxxer anyway.

466 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:26:03pm

These fucktards have fantasies of blowing away “home invaders.” Don’t knock on their door to borrow a cup of sugar or deliver a package! They sleep with their GUNZ. Sux to be the UPS man on their block.

467 Gus  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:27:14pm

Coming up next. The Distinguished Sternly Worded Letter Medal.

468 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:27:37pm

re: #465 Interesting Times

Yes, because nothing says “depopulation” like the Gates Foundation efforts to vaccinate people in the third world who’d otherwise die of…oh screw it, this derp-tweeter is probably an anti-vaxxer anyway.

Exactly. “Depopulation” is a extreme wingnut/moonbat meme. It can be found on true nutcase sites such those of Alex Jones and Mike Adams.

469 Kid A  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:27:49pm

re: #466 Vicious Babushka

Sucks to be one of their kids coming home from college one night early.

470 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:29:14pm

re: #467 Gus

Coming up next. The Distinguished Sternly Worded Letter Medal.

Presented by the Secretary-General of the UN

471 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:29:50pm

re: #467 Gus

Coming up next. The Distinguished Sternly Worded Letter Medal.

Actually Gus, the other new award you’ll agree with. From the article I posted above:

Meanwhile there is the other new award. Over the last seven years all the U.S. military services developed new decorations to recognize non-combat troops who have experienced combat on the ground. This is a result of the large number of non-combat troops who have been in combat because of the extensive attacks on convoys and American bases in Afghanistan and, especially, Iraq. Such attacks are not unique, as there was quite a lot of action against base camps, and supply convoys, during the Vietnam War and earlier conflicts. During World War II combat support troops often were told to grab their rifles and man the fighting line. This was particularly common in the Pacific. But in Iraq there have been weeks where the majority of casualties were among combat support troops. This was unheard of in past wars. So in recognition of that, there are now “Combat Badges” available for non-combat troops in the army, marines, and navy. The U.S. Air Force was the last to agree to offer such an award. Airmen have seen a lot of action defending convoys and bases in Iraq, and even the pilots (normally the only “combat” troops in the air force) are in favor of a badge to recognize the air force role in ground combat. Some pilots would be eligible for this badge. Pilots serve on the ground as air controllers with army combat units. The air controllers communicate with warplanes above and direct attack by aircraft. Earlier the air force thought it had solved the combat badge “problem” by earlier approving a gold border for the Expeditionary Service Ribbon. This ribbon is awarded to airmen who deploy overseas on a combat mission. The gold border would signify that the wearer had spent at least 45 consecutive days “supporting combat operations in a designated combat zone.” But the airmen, and air controllers, were still grumbling. So the air force brass agreed to offer a combat badge similar to the one awarded by the other services.

472 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:30:18pm

DERP!

473 Gus  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:30:35pm

re: #460 Dark_Falcon

You’re referring to this article, I take it.

Here’s where I found out.

New medal for drone pilots outranks Bronze Star

…The service secretaries will make the final determination for awarding the Distinguished Warfare Medal.

The order of precedence came as a surprise to Doug Sterner, a military medals expert and the curator of the Military Times Hall of Valor, the largest database of military medal recipients.

“It’s got me puzzled,” Sterner said Wednesday. “I understand the need to recognize the guys at the console who are doing some pretty important things. But to see it ranking above the Bronze Star (with) V?”

Seriously hope they don’t approve this with it’s current precedence.

474 Interesting Times  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:32:21pm

re: #468 Dark_Falcon

Exactly. “Depopulation” is a extreme wingnut/moonbat meme. It can be found on true nutcase sites such those of Alex Jones and Mike Adams.

OH GOD IT’S THE MORONIC CONVERGENCE:

Mike Adams (the Health Ranger) to host Alex Jones Show Friday, Jan 20th, 2012

475 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:34:04pm

Russian lawmaker’s body found cemented in barrel

[Link: news.yahoo.com…]

No word yet if there was a 2nd barrel with Jimmy Hoffas body in it found!

476 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:35:11pm

re: #474 Interesting Times

OH GOD IT’S THE MORONIC CONVERGENCE:

Mike Adams (the Health Ranger) to host Alex Jones Show Friday, Jan 20th, 2012

No, it’s not the true convergence. Alex Jones was doing something else that Friday and Adams was his guest host. It’s like Mark Steyn filling in for Sean Hannity.

477 Achilles Tang  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:35:49pm

I believe there is at least one ex Presidential candidate writing for this loon, along with Ted Nugent and a few other well known names that I have forgotten.

“The problem is America is not limited to atheists, agnostics, cults and non-believers,” says Farah. “In fact, the biggest problem America has is with those who call themselves believers but who act no differently than the worldliest individuals on the planet. You can call these people backslidden. You can call them false converts. Or you can call them undiscipled, nominal believers. What they all have in common is they are not in obedience to God. They are not even trying to follow the most basic moral law, as Jesus and the prophets all instructed.”

With that in mind, Farah is planning to erect hundreds of Ten Commandments billboards around the country in a move that is sure to annoy the American Civil Liberties Union and the organized atheists with the help of like-minded and like-spirited partners.

“The goal is two-fold,” Farah says. “I want to prick the consciences of believers and non-believers alike, and I want Americans to see the basis of all our laws as handed down by God at Mount Sinai in hopes they will repent of their sins and turn back to their Creator.”

America has never needed a campaign like this so badly, he says.

478 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:36:05pm

Don’t mess with Granny on BINGO night!!

[Link: www.seacoastonline.com…]

Two women got into a fight over the sale of beauty products during a game of bingo for seniors at Feaster Apartments on Friday, police said.

According to the public police log, Portsmouth officers responded to the community room at the senior living apartment building on Court Street at 2:06 p.m. after taking a report of “some pushing and shoving” due to a disagreement over the sale of Avon products.

479 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:36:14pm

re: #475 sattv4u2

Russian lawmaker’s body found cemented in barrel

[Link: news.yahoo.com…]

No word yet if there was a 2nd barrel with Jimmy Hoffas body in it found!

That’s retro and not in a good way.

480 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:36:25pm

re: #453 Kid A

What right-wing racism? (read his handle):

The Canada Free Press is a print version of Fox. Nobody in his right mind takes it seriously.

481 Lidane  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:36:46pm

re: #472 Vicious Babushka

482 Interesting Times  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:38:47pm

re: #472 Vicious Babushka

Here’s something else you can tweet if you want to give tgdn a sad:

Fox News primetime sinks to multi-year low

483 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:38:59pm

re: #462 sattv4u2

eh,, I was (kinda) politely told to go back to my seat as the flight attendants said they would handle it. But the odd thing was is that I noticed it and got there BEFORE they went to “handle it” To this day I only think they came over because I did

Aftermath, lets just say that the “gentleman” in question and I conversed in the concourse after getting off the plane

Did you pee on him?

484 calochortus  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:41:06pm

re: #477 Achilles Tang

In a way Farah is right. No, not about erecting billboards with the 10 Commandments on them, but if religious people want to convince the rest of the world that they are onto something, they’d better start living their faith, starting with the log in their own eye before moving on to keeping their neighbor from having a good time.
His problem is that the faithful aren’t going to suddenly quit coveting their neighbor’s ass and whatnot.

485 sattv4u2  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:42:13pm

re: #483 b_sharp

Did you pee on him?

And waste good urine? No way!!

486 Lidane  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:47:54pm

I don’t know. That depends. Is Liam Neeson involved somehow? If so, the phone might be my better option.

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487 Gus  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:49:43pm
488 Lidane  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:53:18pm

I don’t buy the video game link. I know people who develop games, and who play games, including violent first person shooters. They don’t go around shooting up schools.

Correlation =/= causation. I’m more inclined to believe that he was inspired by Breivik and wanted to out-kill him. Fucking crazy attracts fucking crazy.

489 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:54:14pm

re: #481 Lidane

DERP!

490 Interesting Times  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:55:37pm

re: #488 Lidane

I don’t buy the video game link. I know people who develop games, and who play games, including violent first person shooters. They don’t go around shooting up schools.

I saw the CBS news report - to me, it sounded like he used the games for little more than virtual target practice (i.e. they were a means to an end, not the initial inspiration for it)

491 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:57:39pm

re: #481 Lidane

492 A Mom Anon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 5:38:22pm

re: #450 Sionainn

One of the witnesses is a Federal Air Marshall who heard and saw what was happening. I’d say Mr Racist is in deep shit.

493 Inner Partisan  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 6:50:34pm

re: #490 Interesting Times

I saw the CBS news report - to me, it sounded like he used the games for little more than virtual target practice (i.e. they were a means to an end, not the initial inspiration for it)

No offense, but that’s equally ridiculous. You can’t “practice” shooting a real firearm by playing first person shooters any more than by clicking the icons on your desktop.

494 Interesting Times  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 7:11:18pm

re: #493 Inner Partisan

No offense, but that’s equally ridiculous. You can’t “practice” shooting a real firearm by playing first person shooters any more than by clicking the icons on your desktop.

He did plenty of real-life target practice as well, courtesy of his mother (to whom all his massacre guns were registered). At any rate, I based my comment on this from the CBS report:

They’ve also recovered what they called a “trove” of video games from the basement of Lanza’s home. Sources say Lanza spent countless hours there alone, in a private gaming room with the windows blacked out, honing his computer shooting skills.

Lanza also made multiple visits to nearby gun ranges with his mother, Nancy Lanza, where they practiced together with actual weapons. Three guns, all registered to Nancy Lanza, were used in the Sandy Hook massacre. Lanza used a fourth weapon to kill his mother before his attack on the school.


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