Charles JohnsonFollow @Green_FootballsI’m posting this partly because I need to test our SoundCloud integration since they changed their code, and also because it’s a quirky, funky, stripped down, freaking great record, and how cool is it that you can stream the whole thing through SoundCloud?
You should buy it - I did: Songs for Imaginative People.
My favorite song might be “Moonlit.”
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Feb 20, 2013 5:47:43pm |
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 5:49:25pm |
Been listening to this a lot lately:
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HappyWarrior Wed, Feb 20, 2013 5:59:33pm |
re: #2 Kragar (Antichrist )
Been listening to this a lot lately:
[Embedded content]
I recently discovered them. Good sound.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 6:02:40pm |
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HappyWarrior Wed, Feb 20, 2013 6:03:14pm |
Anyhow, this is my daily contribution. Not music but John Cheever reading his most famous short story, “The Swimmer.” I only first read this short story over a year and a half ago for a modern American lit class I took my final semester of college but it’s one of my favorites.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Feb 20, 2013 6:09:45pm |
How cool is it that you can stream a complete album like this? And this is from the artist’s official page - no copyright issues. SoundCloud is a great site.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 6:11:25pm |
re: #6 Charles Johnson
How cool is it that you can stream a complete album like this? And this is from the artist’s official page - no copyright issues. SoundCloud is a great site.
Bet it pisses the recording companies off something fierce.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Feb 20, 2013 6:14:15pm |
Rachel Maddow brought up the “Friends of Hamas” derpfest but pointedly omitted mentioning Breitbart.com. Heh.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Feb 20, 2013 6:15:21pm |
re: #7 Kragar (Antichrist )
Bet it pisses the recording companies off something fierce.
I think they have licensing deals of some kind. Don’t have a link at the moment but I believe I read some articles about their haggles with the record biz.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Feb 20, 2013 6:18:08pm |
Regina Spektor’s on SoundCloud too:
[Link: soundcloud.com…]
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 6:18:51pm |
re: #10 Charles Johnson
I think they have licensing deals of some kind. Don’t have a link at the moment but I believe I read some articles about their haggles with the record biz.
Related:
5 Things Record Labels Don’t Want You to Know They Do
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Interesting Times Wed, Feb 20, 2013 6:20:25pm |
re: #9 Charles Johnson
Rachel Maddow brought up the “Friends of Hamas” derpfest but pointedly omitted mentioning Breitbart.com. Heh.
The problem is not Breitbart and his demented followers. The problem is with the beltway, the clowns who actually think they’re journalists.— BWD (@theonlyadult) February 21, 2013
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HappyWarrior Wed, Feb 20, 2013 6:20:29pm |
re: #12 Kragar (Antichrist )
Related:
5 Things Record Labels Don’t Want You to Know They Do
I read that earlier. Made me feel a lot less guilty about DLing music.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Feb 20, 2013 6:21:28pm |
re: #13 Interesting Times
Didn’t Romney describe Breitbart as a “good, right of center blog.” I agree, though the problem with Bretibart is that it has credibility. It should be seen frankly the same way Stormfront or WND is.
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Interesting Times Wed, Feb 20, 2013 6:21:51pm |
So how’s that Benghazi thing working out for you?
Obama rated at three-year high in new Bloomberg poll, Republicans at record lows. bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-2…— Andrew Kaczynski (@BuzzFeedAndrew) February 21, 2013
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EdDantes Wed, Feb 20, 2013 6:26:37pm |
re: #17 Interesting Times
So how’s that Benghazi thing working out for you?
Benghazi? Nobody cares anymore.
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Lidane Wed, Feb 20, 2013 6:29:25pm |
Derp:
The Anti-Choice Left’s Disarming of the American Woman - @michelle Malkin townhall.com/columnists/mic… #tcot #NRA #TGDN #LNYHBT #Patriot— UlyssesRN (@UlyssesRN) February 21, 2013
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Political Atheist Wed, Feb 20, 2013 6:30:03pm |
Charles,
Why Soundcloud instead of Spotify? The FB thing? Tech issues?
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Shvaughn Wed, Feb 20, 2013 6:30:06pm |
re: #18 EdDantes
Benghazi? Nobody cares anymore.
I thought yesterday you were just arguing about Benghazi.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Feb 20, 2013 6:32:16pm |
re: #20 Political Atheist
Charles,
Why Soundcloud instead of Spotify? The FB thing? Tech issues?
Spotify doesn’t allow embedding like this.
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EdDantes Wed, Feb 20, 2013 6:33:15pm |
re: #21 Shvaughn
I thought yesterday you were just arguing about Benghazi.
I’ll modify my remark. I care about Benghazi but most Americans don’t.
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Lidane Wed, Feb 20, 2013 6:35:11pm |
re: #23 EdDantes
Because most people are sane and don’t buy into wingnut conspiracy bullshit. That’s why they’re not obsessed with Benghazi.
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Interesting Times Wed, Feb 20, 2013 6:38:49pm |
re: #16 Gus
Oy. Nate Silver is seeing things I’ve been predicting.
Saw that too, and it scared me too, though I felt a bit better after remembering:
1) Sharron Angle
2) Christine O’Donnell
3) Todd Aikin
4) Richard Mourdock
All races eminently winnable for GOPers (especially NV in 2010 and IN in 2012), all flushed down the Tea Party toilet (Doesn’t mean we shouldn’t remain vigilant, of course. Take nothing for granted, ever.)
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EdDantes Wed, Feb 20, 2013 6:42:07pm |
re: #24 Lidane
I’m not obsessed with Benghazi. I was pointing out that Most Americans don’t care about that event. Four people died and we move on
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Targetpractice Wed, Feb 20, 2013 6:45:10pm |
re: #26 EdDantes
I’m not obsessed with Benghazi. I was pointing out that Most Americans don’t care about that event. Four people died and we move on
People die every day. We move on.
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A Mom Anon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 6:45:13pm |
re: #26 EdDantes
Just like they did after every other Embassy or Consulate bombing/killing, some of those had a much higher death toll too. And as I recall, some of those were under the watch of Republican administrations.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Feb 20, 2013 6:45:40pm |
re: #26 EdDantes
I’m not obsessed with Benghazi. I was pointing out that Most Americans don’t care about that event. Four people died and we move on
Not to diminish the four who died but we had Americans killed at embassies during the administration of Obama’s predecessors too. What to me is bothersome about Benghazi is how Senate Republicans namely Senators McCain and Graham want to turn this into “How can we make President Obama look as bad as possible for this” rather than getting the bottom of what happened so something like this won’t happen again.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Feb 20, 2013 6:48:37pm |
re: #28 A Mom Anon
Just like they did after every other Embassy or Consulate bombing/killing, some of those had a much higher death toll too. And as I recall, some of those were under the watch of Republican administrations.
Yes, Benghazi I think is particularly prominent because we had an ambassador killed.
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EdDantes Wed, Feb 20, 2013 6:50:27pm |
re: #29 HappyWarrior
Not to diminish the four who died but we had Americans killed at embassies during the administration of Obama’s predecessors too. What to me is bothersome about Benghazi is how Senate Republicans namely Senators McCain and Graham want to turn this into “How can we make President Obama look as bad as possible for this.”
What is bothersome to me is that Ambassador Stephens requested help and didn’t get it. Somebody better investigate soon (Dylan reference. look it up)
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Targetpractice Wed, Feb 20, 2013 6:52:45pm |
re: #31 EdDantes
What is bothersome to me is that Ambassador Stephens requested help and didn’t get it. Somebody better investigate soon (Dylan reference. look it up)
They did, at length.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 6:52:52pm |
re: #31 EdDantes
What is bothersome to me is that Ambassador Stephens requested help and didn’t get it. Somebody better investigate soon (Dylan reference. look it up)
When was that request made? I want to clarify what you’re saying before I reply.
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Lidane Wed, Feb 20, 2013 6:52:55pm |
re: #26 EdDantes
I’m sure you were similarly concerned about all the embassy attacks during Bush’s eight years in office. Right?
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A Mom Anon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 6:52:57pm |
re: #30 HappyWarrior
I know, but this isn’t about the ambassador, it’s about sowing more seeds of ugly and an excuse to obstruct appointments. If we had heard the same uproar about the other deaths I’d be more apt to believe they gave a shit. While ambassador is an important job, that doesn’t make that life more valuable than any other. It also doesn’t have a thing to do with the Hagel nomination, or anything else they’re trying to use it to screw with.
I’m out for the night now, I have to drive a couple hours in the morning to pick up the kiddo from school.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 6:53:04pm |
re: #31 EdDantes
What is bothersome to me is that Ambassador Stephens requested help and didn’t get it. Somebody better investigate soon (Dylan reference. look it up)
Because we have forces who can instantly teleport anywhere across the globe, or are you talking about the funds which Congress cut from the State Dept to address security concerns?
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HappyWarrior Wed, Feb 20, 2013 6:54:57pm |
re: #35 A Mom Anon
I know, but this isn’t about the ambassador, it’s about sowing more seeds of ugly and an excuse to obstruct appointments. If we had heard the same uproar about the other deaths I’d be more apt to believe they gave a shit. While ambassador is an important job, that doesn’t make that life more valuable than any other. It also doesn’t have a thing to do with the Hagel nomination, or anything else they’re trying to use it to screw with.
I’m out for the night now, I have to drive a couple hours in the morning to pick up the kiddo from school.
Oh believe me, we’re on the same page. The fact that this tragedy is being used as an excuse to obstruct every Obama appointee is ridiculous. I don’t detect an ounce of sincerity. As I said, I see Graham and McCain wanting to put on a show. McCain’s actions with the press show that he cares more about this being a circus than getting the truth of what happened.
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Lidane Wed, Feb 20, 2013 6:58:19pm |
re: #36 Kragar (Antichrist )
Because we have forces who can instantly teleport anywhere across the globe, or are you talking about the funds which Congress cut from the State Dept to address security concerns?
Unpossible! The US military have a TARDIS lying around. Also, everyone knows that there are no consequences to cutting the State Department’s security budget.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:01:29pm |
DERP DERP HURR HURR
For libs ignorant enough to argue I can point to hundreds of steps taken by our govt that parallel Nazi Germany so accept truth. #tgdn— Richard Rivette (@VoteRivette) February 21, 2013
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:02:26pm |
DERP DERP HURR HURR
Ghastly. Forced #abortion by #plannedparenthood leaves baby parts inside woman. #p2 #tgdn #tcotradio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/to…— Carol Greenberg (@LadyImpactOhio) February 21, 2013
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Targetpractice Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:04:52pm |
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:06:12pm |
re: #41 Targetpractice
“Forced abortion”?
PANNED PARENTHOOD GRABS WIMMEN OFF THE STREETS AND FORCES THEM TO HAVE ABORTIONS EVEN IF THEIR NOT EVEN PRAGNENT!1!1!!TY
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:07:59pm |
re: #38 Lidane
Unpossible! The US military have a TARDIS lying around. Also, everyone knows that there are no consequences to cutting the State Department’s security budget.
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To be fair, it was less the security budget and more Libya’s not wanting to allowing more security contractors for the facility. Like most Arab nations, Libya finds western security contractors a serious bugbear, an attitude which is in large part the product of that likely-bad Blackwater mass shooting in Baghdad a few years back.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:08:16pm |
re: #40 Vicious Babushka
The group behind this creepy story: [Link: www.adfmedia.org…]
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EdDantes Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:09:11pm |
re: #36 Kragar (Antichrist )
Because we have forces who can instantly teleport anywhere across the globe, or are you talking about the funds which Congress cut from the State Dept to address security concerns?
We obviously can’t teleport. At the hearings I wanted someone to say, ” We got the message from Ambassador Stephens and due to logistics problems it was impossible to get aid to him because…”
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:09:26pm |
DERP DERP HURR HURR.
Peter, what if they would have become welfare & food stamp recipients!
40 years, 55 million aborted. Who where they? Who would they have become? #prolife #ccot #tgdn #pjnet— Peter M. Abraham (@PeterMAbraham) February 21, 2013
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:09:58pm |
re: #44 Charles Johnson
The group behind this creepy story: [Link: www.adfmedia.org…]
That’s just fucking sick.
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Thundermother(it will turn your head around) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:10:46pm |
re: #40 Vicious Babushka
I’ve been checking out the tweets posted here the last few weeks and have to ask a question from the more experienced twitter users.
I see descriptions similar to this: “This Conservative Lady is a strict Constitutionalist. Pro-life, 2nd amendment, Republican. Our military is our best asset. Israel supporter ” on a bunch of these tweets.
Is putting political blurbs like this a popular thing? Or is it mostly something the tcot, gulag people do? I’m wondering how many of these accounts are actually astroturf.
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Targetpractice Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:10:59pm |
re: #45 EdDantes
We obviously can’t teleport. At the hearings I wanted someone to say, ” We got the message from Ambassador Stephens and due to logistics problems it was impossible to get aid to him because…”
And how many such messages do you believe they receive in any given week? Or was Stevens of such high value that putting extra emphasis on protecting him was of paramount importance?
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Lidane Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:11:16pm |
*sigh*
#Obama is so incompetent that he cant handle 5% cut without harming essential services. #idiot #TeamObama #talkradio #tgdn #teaparty #taxes— oxizrkpb (@oxizrkpb) February 21, 2013
What part of “across the board cuts” is hard to understand?
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:12:25pm |
MOAR HERP DERP
More than 70% of Federal Spending Goes to Dependence Programs buff.ly/WLciv2 #Debtceiling #my2k #tgdn #ccot #cutspending #pjnet— Peter M. Abraham (@PeterMAbraham) February 21, 2013
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:13:53pm |
re: #49 Targetpractice
And how many such messages do you believe they receive in any given week? Or was Stevens of such high value that putting extra emphasis on protecting him was of paramount importance?
Given that Libya was and still is higher profile than most embassies and consulates, the request should have had priority. But even allowing for that, the government of Libya wasn’t that fond of allowing the US to bring in more outside security.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:14:28pm |
Someone posted an interesting Jon Stewart line last night on facebook. I’m paraphrasing but basically the line was businessmen who find way to skirt taxes and regulations are considered savvy businessmen but if you’re poor and use the same system to get food or whatever, why are you then a moocher.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:14:40pm |
re: #50 Lidane
*sigh*
What part of “across the board cuts” is hard to understand?
That Twitter thing is a bot, not a real person. I have noticed lately a bunch of bots flooding TGDN with “Conservative” Tweets, but they have randomly generated names and no followers or following.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:15:22pm |
re: #48 Thundermother(it will turn your head around)
I’ve been checking out the tweets posted here the last few weeks and have to ask a question for the more experienced twitter users.
I see descriptions similar to this: “This Conservative Lady is a strict Constitutionalist. Pro-life, 2nd amendment, Republican. Our military is our best asset. Israel supporter ” on a bunch of these tweets.
Is putting political blurbs like this a popular thing? Or is it mostly something the tcot, gulag people do? I’m wondering how many of these accounts are actually astroturf.
Wouldn’t surprise me after hearing what I have about campaigns and facebook. I imagine Twitter is the same way.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:15:39pm |
LOL, Peter M. Abraham is an “unemployed CEO”
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EdDantes Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:16:09pm |
re: #33 Dark_Falcon
Several hours had elapsed. I don’t know exactly how many. Here is a link from cnn.
[Link: www.cnn.com…]
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Charles Johnson Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:16:11pm |
re: #45 EdDantes
We obviously can’t teleport. At the hearings I wanted someone to say, ” We got the message from Ambassador Stephens and due to logistics problems it was impossible to get aid to him because…”
Unless I’m mistaken, you seem to be under that impression that Ambassador Stephens requested aid on the night of the attack, and the request was turned down? Is that right?
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Killgore Trout Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:16:21pm |
HENRY DAVID THOREAU: All news is gossip
The messenger answered with respect: ‘My master desires to diminish the number of his faults, but he can not come to the end of them.’ The messenger being gone, the philosopher remarked: ‘What a worth messenger! What a worthy messenger!’”
…
Shams and delusions are esteemed for soundest truths, while reality is fabulous. If men would steadily observe realities only, and not allow themselves to be deluded, life, to compare it with such things as we know, would be like a fairy tale and the Arabian Nights’ Entertainments.If we respected only what is inevitable and has a right to be, music and poetry would resound along the streets.
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Targetpractice Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:16:40pm |
re: #52 Dark_Falcon
Given that Libya was and still is higher profile than most embassies and consulates, the request should have had priority. But even allowing for that, the government of Libya wasn’t that fond of allowing the US to bring in more outside security.
There were 281 threats made against US diplomatic missions in the six months prior. Not Benghazi, not Stevens, all US diplomatic missions across the globe. Many of them in countries that would be considered volatile.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:17:55pm |
re: #45 EdDantes
Because it’s not true, and I hope you know that.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:19:37pm |
Here’s how to tell a bot on Twitter:
1. Name is a bunch of random letters
2. No or very few followers or following
3. Random phrase like “This made me laugh so hard!”
4. Usually found on trending hashtags.
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William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:19:46pm |
re: #26 EdDantes
Just like 241 Marines and other service members in Lebanon that the right didn’t care about because it was St. Ronnie sent them there to die needlessly.
Thankfully he’s in hell now.
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Political Atheist Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:21:36pm |
re: #52 Dark_Falcon
Bust me if I’m wrong but as I recall embassies have little security because it is the explicit statutory responsibility of the local national gov to assure and ensure security. Hence there are few if any truly well armed embassies.
Expectations of very strong defenses at embassies are misplaced at best.
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EdDantes Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:23:08pm |
re: #58 Charles Johnson
Unless I’m mistaken, you seem to be under that impression that Ambassador Stephens requested aid on the night of the attack, and the request was turned down? Is that right?
Turned down? No, they way I understand it there was no attempt at giving aid. General Dempsey said the dod never go a request
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Targetpractice Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:25:09pm |
re: #65 EdDantes
Turned down? No, they way I understand it there was no attempt at giving aid. General Dempsey said the dod never go a request
He also said even if they had received a request, there was no way they could have responded in time.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:25:22pm |
re: #57 EdDantes
Several hours had elapsed. I don’t know exactly how many. Here is a link from cnn.
[Link: www.cnn.com…]
If you mean after the attack was underway, I’ve already answered that:
Help was not sent because there was no sufficient help to send. To have sent a drone would have been to risk unacceptable collateral damage from its area-fire weapons. To have sent transport helicopters with a relief team (even if they were available, there were no Ah-64s to hand) would have been to risk their loss to the SA-24 we had to assume the terrorists had access to.
Help was not sent because there was nothing to send that could have done any good at an acceptable risk.
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EdDantes Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:25:44pm |
re: #63 William Barnett-Lewis
Just like 241 Marines and other service members in Lebanon that the right didn’t care about because it was St. Ronnie sent them there to die needlessly.
Thankfully he’s in hell now.
I rarely down ding. In your case I made an exception. I despise hatefulness.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:26:41pm |
re: #63 William Barnett-Lewis
That was seriously over the line into Ted Rall territory. You’re better than that.
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EdDantes Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:26:49pm |
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EdDantes Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:28:26pm |
re: #67 Targetpractice
He also said even if they had received a request, there was no way they could have responded in time.
I don’t remember that but I will take you at your word.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:28:34pm |
re: #65 EdDantes
And the reason behind this was … what? What do you think Obama was trying to achieve with this dastardly act?
Because I gotta tell ya, it sounds completely nuts to me. It sounds like you’re trying to suggest that the President wanted this attack to happen and deliberately stood in the way of efforts to help save Amb. Stevens.
Is that what you’re saying?
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:29:41pm |
re: #45 EdDantes
We obviously can’t teleport. At the hearings I wanted someone to say, ” We got the message from Ambassador Stephens and due to logistics problems it was impossible to get aid to him because…”
because the world is a fucking huge place.
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EdDantes Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:31:05pm |
re: #68 Dark_Falcon
If you mean after the attack was underway, I’ve already answered that:
Help was not sent because there was no sufficient help to send. To have sent a drone would have been to risk unacceptable collateral damage from its area-fire weapons. To have sent transport helicopters with a relief team (even if they were available, there were no Ah-64s to hand) would have been to risk their loss to the SA-24 we had to assume the terrorists had access to.
Help was not sent because there was nothing to send that could have done any good at an acceptable risk.
I wish Panetta and Dempsey had said that when they had the opportunity.
When it was important. I will look into what you posted.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:31:49pm |
re: #51 Vicious Babushka
MOAR HERP DERP
Yeah, a lot of the DOD programs are industrial welfare, so I guess it could be called Dependence programs.
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EdDantes Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:32:24pm |
re: #74 Kragar (Antichrist )
because the world is a fucking huge place.
You, sir or madam. are brilliant.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:35:33pm |
re: #65 EdDantes
Turned down? No, they way I understand it there was no attempt at giving aid. General Dempsey said the dod never go a request
Dempsey and McCain Spar Over Benghazi
At a hearing of the Senate Armed Services Committee on the Sept. 11, 2011 attacks on the consulate and an annex used by the CIA about a mile away, McCain immediately challenged Dempsey’s prepared remarks that “our military was appropriately responsive. We did what our posture and capabilities allowed.”
McCain called Dempsey’s assessment “one of the more bizarre statements I’ve ever seen in my years here at the Committee.”
Dempsey shot back that “I stand by my testimony, your dispute of it notwithstanding.”
Dempsey said that an unarmed reconnaissance drone was diverted to fly over Benghazi as the attacks began, and air and ground forces in Europe were put on alert, but the attacks ended before they could be deployed.
They could have scrambled everything in that hemisphere and still not have been able to respond.
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William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:35:37pm |
re: #70 Dark_Falcon
That was seriously over the line into Ted Rall territory. You’re better than that.
Sorry DF, Ronnie did more damage to freedom in his time as president than any other president in American history. He showed himself for what he really was at Bitburg. Before that, he spent years propping up murderous thugs throughout Central and South America and helping the Ayatollah’s with weapons to fund a group of terrorists fighting the legal government of Nicaragua. He nearly destroyed the economy trying to outspend the Russians.
He did nothing good.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:37:13pm |
re: #69 EdDantes
I rarely down ding. In your case I made an exception. I despise hatefulness.
I live in Simi Valley, and it is, in fact, hell.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:39:01pm |
re: #75 EdDantes
I wish Panetta and Dempsey had said that when they had the opportunity.
When it was important. I will look into what you posted.
The reason they did not is the same reason a Republican administration likely would not have said such a thing:
For the Secretary of Defense to openly admit that an enemy had effectively checkmated any response would be to openly admit that they had defeated us. Such an admission would appear on a half-dozen Al Qaeda propaganda videos and al-Zawahiri himself would likely release a vid gloating over his victory. The result of that would be a surge in money and recruits to our worst enemies. So if Leon Panetta equivocated, he only did what I myself would have done in his place. The embassy attack was, after all, just one engagement in a much larger war.
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EdDantes Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:39:13pm |
re: #73 Charles Johnson
And the reason behind this was … what? What do you think Obama was trying to achieve with this dastardly act?
Because I gotta tell ya, it sounds completely nuts to me. It sounds like you’re trying to suggest that the President wanted this attack to happen and deliberately stood in the way of efforts to help save Amb. Stevens.
Is that what you’re saying?
Wanted it to happen? That is insane. Obama is a very disconnected president but I never said or even believe that he is evil. Why attribute to malice to what can more easily explained as incompetence?
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Shvaughn Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:41:30pm |
re: #82 EdDantes
Wanted it to happen? That is insane. Obama is a very disconnected president but I never said or even believe that he is evil. Why attribute to malice to what can more easily explained as incompetence?
What was the incompetence?
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:41:42pm |
re: #79 William Barnett-Lewis
Let’s not get sidetracked discussing Reagan. I feel you could have said what you said differently, without the ‘he’s in Hell’. That was my point.
/Stay on Target!
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Lidane Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:41:56pm |
re: #82 EdDantes
I eagerly await the explanation for how Obama is a disconnected POTUS.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:42:23pm |
re: #82 EdDantes
Wanted it to happen? That is insane. Obama is a very disconnected president but I never said or even believe that he is evil. Why attribute to malice to what can more easily explained as incompetence?
GOP cuts to embassy security draw scrutiny, jabs from Democrats
Democrats enacted $1.803 billion for embassy security, construction and maintenance for fiscal 2010, when they still controlled the Senate and House. After Republicans took control of the House and picked up six Senate seats, Congress reduced the enacted budget to $1.616 billion in fiscal 2011, and to $1.537 billion for 2012.
The administration requested $1.801 billion for security, construction and maintenance for fiscal 2012; House Republicans countered with a proposal to cut spending to $1.425 billion. The House agreed to increase it to $1.537 billion after negotiations with the Senate.
The administration requested $1.654 billion for the State Department’s Worldwide Security Protection program for fiscal 2012. House Republicans proposed funding the program at $1.557 billion. Congress eventually enacted $1.591 billion after the Senate weighed in.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:43:11pm |
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:44:46pm |
During the New Moon Zombie Reagan roams the local hills, ridding them of Nicaraguan communists and anybody who violates the CC&Rs.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:46:36pm |
re: #88 goddamnedfrank
During the New Moon Zombie Reagan roams the local hills, ridding them of Nicaraguan communists and anybody who violates the CC&Rs.
OK, that’s at least mildly funny and fully non-hateful. Upding.
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Lidane Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:46:37pm |
re: #87 Kragar (Antichrist )
Electing Republicans.
Seriously. They’re nothing but a bunch of incompetent, idiotic obstructionists.
Both of my asshole Senators are Exhibit A of this fact.
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Targetpractice Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:47:32pm |
re: #78 Kragar (Antichrist )
Dempsey and McCain Spar Over Benghazi
They could have scrambled everything in that hemisphere and still not have been able to respond.
That’s what never made sense about the “They called for help and none was sent” bit, that there were no troops sitting on alert, waiting for the call to come in to scramble to Benghazi. It takes time to get them all together, get their gear, get on the aircraft, and even begin the journey. Short of developing transporters in the near future, our response time to most such disasters is measured in hours or days, not minutes.
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Shvaughn Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:47:39pm |
re: #91 Charles Johnson
I give up. Pointless.
It’s okay, Ed is still on his way out or something after all.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:50:19pm |
re: #89 Dark_Falcon
OK, that’s at least mildly funny and fully non-hateful. Upding.
Zombie Reagan hates it when people fill up their garage with junk and then park in the driveway.
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Targetpractice Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:50:32pm |
re: #90 Lidane
Seriously. They’re nothing but a bunch of incompetent, idiotic obstructionists.
Both of my asshole Senators are Exhibit A of this fact.
Josh Marshall was wondering aloud earlier today as to what Cruz thinks he accomplishes by being an utter prick to…well…everybody. And a reader pointed out to him that Cruz didn’t actually expect to win his seat. He expected to lose the election, using the name recognition to set himself up for the Texas AG when the present AG runs for the governorship (assuming Goodhair hangs it up after this term). So his acting like an obstructionist ass in the Senate is more about boosting his Tea Party cred for an eventual run back home than any long-term Congressional plans.
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freetoken Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:51:37pm |
Getting back to SoundCloud - there are all sorts of neat things lurking around there. Here’s one I found that I particularly like:
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HappyWarrior Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:52:37pm |
re: #95 Targetpractice
Josh Marshall was wondering aloud earlier today as to what Cruz thinks he accomplishes by being an utter prick to…well…everybody. And a reader pointed out to him that Cruz didn’t actually expect to win his seat. He expected to lose the election, using the name recognition to set himself up for the Texas AG when the present AG runs for the governorship (assuming Goodhair hangs it up after this term). So his acting like an obstructionist ass in the Senate is more about boosting his Tea Party cred for an eventual run back home than any long-term Congressional plans.
That surprises me. Anyhow, he’s only been there not even two months and is already one of the Senate’s biggest jackasses.
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gwangung Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:53:53pm |
re: #92 Targetpractice
That’s what never made sense about the “They called for help and none was sent” bit, that there were no troops sitting on alert, waiting for the call to come in to scramble to Benghazi. It takes time to get them all together, get their gear, get on the aircraft, and even begin the journey. Short of developing transporters in the near future, our response time to most such disasters is measured in hours or days, not minutes.
Wow. It takes TIME to respond to an alert? It takes TIME to figure out what’s happening? It takes TIME to figure out what would effective responses? It takes TIME to match those responses to the forces available? It takes TIME to alert the troop? It takes TIME for the troops to suit up? It takes TIME for to assemble the forces? It takes TIME to get those forces to wherever the problem is?
Wow. I never knew that.
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Targetpractice Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:55:54pm |
re: #98 gwangung
Wow. It takes TIME to respond to an alert? It takes TIME to figure out what’s happening? It takes TIME to figure out what would effective responses? It takes TIME to match those responses to the forces available? It takes TIME to alert the troop? It takes TIME for the troops to suit up? It takes TIME for to assemble the forces? It takes TIME to get those forces to wherever the problem is?
Wow. I never knew that.
Apparently it was a complete mystery to Senator McNasty…, McCain too, as he was growling at Dempsey about how Crete is 90 minutes away from Benghazi and he “knows” we could have responded in that time period.
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freetoken Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:59:09pm |
So, where are all the “patriots” when it comes to this issue?
Report: Some citizens detained at immigration officials’ request
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:59:15pm |
re: #99 Targetpractice
Apparently it was a complete mystery to Senator McNasty…, McCain too, as he was growling at Dempsey about how Crete is 90 minutes away from Benghazi and he “knows” we could have responded in that time period.
90 minutes with what? Going to land a C-130 full of Marines in downtown Benghazi in the middle of a riot?
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Political Atheist Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:01:44pm |
re: #98 gwangung
There is this fallacious kind of argument that comes up, relates to perceived omniscience. Like as if our satellites could see whats up at all times and in all weather so anything our President fails to respond to is some plot. The assumption we could have saved the day with troops that fast falls right into that kind of argument.
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Romantic Heretic Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:02:22pm |
re: #98 gwangung
Wow. It takes TIME to respond to an alert? It takes TIME to figure out what’s happening? It takes TIME to figure out what would effective responses? It takes TIME to match those responses to the forces available? It takes TIME to alert the troop? It takes TIME for the troops to suit up? It takes TIME for to assemble the forces? It takes TIME to get those forces to wherever the problem is?
Wow. I never knew that.
Science is hard!
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Targetpractice Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:02:45pm |
re: #101 Kragar (Antichrist )
90 minutes with what? Going to land a C-130 full of Marines in downtown Benghazi in the middle of a riot?
IIRC, there was talk about a Spectre gunship being in Crete at the time, but that would be like killing a fly with a bazooka.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:04:58pm |
To be fair it probably should have donned on somebody that recently liberated Libya, with its national armories all pretty much emptied and the country’s supply of military weapons in rebel hands, might be really unstable. That if shit were to go down, so to speak, that it might get a lot worse there than in places with better functioning central governments.
So it was kind of a fuck up, I think the administration has pretty much admitted to that. Republicans cannot just accept that though because they convinced themselves that this was going to be the scandal that cost Obama the election. When that didn’t happen the whole thing became some kind of ideological test of faith, it morphed into an elaborate conspiracy and cover up, like Fast and Furious before it.
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Lidane Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:05:26pm |
re: #102 Political Atheist
There is this fallacious kind of argument that comes up, relates to perceived omniscience. Like as if our satellites could see whats up at all times and in all weather so anything our President fails to respond to is some plot. The assumption we could have saved the day with troops that fast falls right into that kind of argument.
These Benghazi conspiracy dipshits seem to think we have invented faster than light technology or that we have a spare TARDIS or two lying around for these things.
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Lidane Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:06:08pm |
re: #104 Targetpractice
IIRC, there was talk about a Spectre gunship being in Crete at the time, but that would be like killing a fly with a bazooka.
It’s the only way to be sure.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:08:02pm |
re: #104 Targetpractice
IIRC, there was talk about a Spectre gunship being in Crete at the time, but that would be like killing a fly with a bazooka.
How would a gunship flying over head be able to secure the compound and save the ambassador without ground assets?
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:08:49pm |
re: #104 Targetpractice
IIRC, there was talk about a Spectre gunship being in Crete at the time, but that would be like killing a fly with a bazooka.
Most AC-130s still don’t have precision guided munitions, and firing a 40mm Bofors gun and a 105mm howitzer into a heavily populated urban area would have resulted in significant civilian casualties, which we would have been blamed for.
And it also bears repeating that an AC-130 would have been vulnerable to the SA-24s that we had to assume the terrorists had access to. For that matter, in 1991 an AC-130 was shot down by AAA fire from the 23mm ZSU-23 twin barreled cannons that we knew the terrorists had access to.
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Gus Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:08:50pm |
re: #109 Kragar (Antichrist )
How would a gunship flying over head be able to secure the compound and save the ambassador without ground assets?
In the end more Americans would have been killed.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:09:44pm |
re: #109 Kragar (Antichrist )
How would a gunship flying over head be able to secure the compound and save the ambassador without ground assets?
No. That’s the great failing of airpower: It cannot take or hold ground.
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Targetpractice Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:10:00pm |
re: #109 Kragar (Antichrist )
How would a gunship flying over head be able to secure the compound and save the ambassador without ground assets?
1. Send in gunship
2. Chop rioters to bits with 20mm, 40mm, and 105mm cannon fire
3. ?
4. Profit!
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:11:53pm |
re: #113 Targetpractice
1. Send in gunship
2. Chop rioters to bits with 20mm, 40mm, and 105mm cannon fire
3. Blame Arnold Schwarzenegger for the dead civilians.
4. Profit!
Improved.
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Targetpractice Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:12:59pm |
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:13:42pm |
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:13:44pm |
I think a huge part of the rage was pent up over the fact that Obama was successful in involving us in the liberation of Libya without incurring one single US casualty. Then about a year later Benghazi happened and they were all “AHA MOTHERFUCKER!!!”
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:14:00pm |
re: #115 Targetpractice
It’s not Ahnold’s fault, he told them to “get to da choppah!”
Different movie, you have failed me.
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jamesfirecat Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:14:19pm |
re: #114 Dark_Falcon
Improved.
Step 4.5 put Arnold onto a life of death game show broadcast to millions.
Step 5 profit of raitings!
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Targetpractice Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:14:39pm |
re: #118 Kragar (Antichrist )
Different movie, you have failed me.
Not for the last time, I hope.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:14:44pm |
Speaking of Arnold, always found it funny that Predator had two future governors in it. Don’t now of any other film that has that distinction. Not a bad movie for an action movie either honestly.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:15:25pm |
re: #117 goddamnedfrank
I think a huge part of the rage was pent up over the fact that Obama was successful in involving us in the liberation of Libya without incurring one single US casualty. Then about a year later Benghazi happened and they were all “AHA MOTHERFUCKER!!!”
Sure as hell feels that way.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:16:16pm |
re: #121 HappyWarrior
Speaking of Arnold, always found it funny that Predator had two future governors in it. Don’t now of any other film that has that distinction. Not a bad movie for an action movie either honestly.
The Running Man as well.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:16:52pm |
re: #121 HappyWarrior
Speaking of Arnold, always found it funny that Predator had two future governors in it. Don’t now of any other film that has that distinction. Not a bad movie for an action movie either honestly.
The Running Man shares that distinction. Jesse Ventura was in that one, too.
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Shvaughn Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:17:13pm |
re: #121 HappyWarrior
Speaking of Arnold, always found it funny that Predator had two future governors in it. Don’t now of any other film that has that distinction. Not a bad movie for an action movie either honestly.
Also “The Running Man” and “Batman and Robin.”
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:17:15pm |
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jamesfirecat Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:17:21pm |
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Targetpractice Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:18:34pm |
re: #125 Shvaughn
Also “The Running Man” and “Batman and Robin.”
Let’s go for another. What’s Michael Biehn doing these days?
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HappyWarrior Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:18:58pm |
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Shvaughn Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:19:24pm |
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:19:41pm |
re: #127 jamesfirecat
And Batman and Robin.
(Hides under a bunker)
Who was the other governor in that one?
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HappyWarrior Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:19:58pm |
Freaky movie coincidence but my younger brother T2: Judgment Day in August of 1997 on the exact day that it was supposed to happen. I got a little freaked out honest. Still, that’s one of my favorite Sci-Fi movies ever. That and The Thing.
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122 Year Old Obama Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:20:01pm |
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HappyWarrior Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:20:18pm |
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:20:31pm |
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Shvaughn Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:20:33pm |
He had a minor cameo as a guard.
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jamesfirecat Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:20:35pm |
re: #131 Kragar (Antichrist )
Who was the other governor in that one?
Jesse Ventura he played a guard in Arkham Asylum.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:20:44pm |
re: #132 HappyWarrior
Freaky movie coincidence but my younger brother T2: Judgment Day on the exact day of the Judgment Day in August 1997. I got a little freaked out honest. Still, that’s one of my favorite Sci-Fi movies ever. That and The Thing.
You need to edit that post.
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makeitstop Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:20:56pm |
re: #102 Political Atheist
Like as if our satellites could see whats up at all times and in all weather so anything our President fails to respond to is some plot.
Well, Obama did watch the attack in real time in the Oval Office.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:21:11pm |
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HappyWarrior Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:21:44pm |
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Shvaughn Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:22:28pm |
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:23:29pm |
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EdDantes Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:25:06pm |
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Targetpractice Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:27:35pm |
re: #144 EdDantes
Stephens got no help in Benghazi.
What part of “there was no help to send” don’t you get?
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:28:37pm |
Somebody should alert the Guinness World Records people, tell ‘em we’ve got a longest flounce attempt in progress.
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Lidane Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:28:42pm |
re: #144 EdDantes
Did you just completely ignore D_F and the others pointing out that there was no immediate help to give?
WTF.
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EdDantes Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:28:53pm |
re: #85 Lidane
I eagerly await the explanation for how Obama is a disconnected POTUS.
You missed the hearings. He made no phone calls that night and was uninterested in what was happening.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:29:46pm |
re: #149 EdDantes
You missed the hearings. He made no phone calls that night and was uninterested in what was happening.
I heard he even masturbated.
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Targetpractice Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:30:19pm |
re: #149 EdDantes
You missed the hearings. He made no phone calls that night and was uninterested in what was happening.
And President Bush sat reading to children as 9/11 was happening. Yegods, do you realize how asinine this sounds?
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:30:35pm |
Michelle Malkin has decided that she won’t take the lesson from the fate of Todd Akin:
A Colorado school has caused a stir with an advisory that suggested women could urinate or vomit to deter a rape.
The list of 10 tips by the University of Colorado at Colorado Springs was billed as “last resort” options to deter a sexual assault.
“Tell your attacker that you have a disease or are menstruating,” read one tip.
“Vomiting or urinating may also convince the attacker to leave you alone,” read another.
By Tuesday night, the list was taken down and replaced by an explanation and an apology. But it was too late.
The backlash had hit the Internet, and a hashtag on Twitter was created.
Conservative blogger Michelle Malkin was one of many who criticized the eyebrow-raising list using the hashtag #UCCSTips.
My quote differs from the CNN article in omitting a link to a story at Michelle Malkin’s website, in compliance with Charles’ wishes. I haven’t read the Twitter feed yet, and I’m not sure I will. The filth there isn’t something I want to see.
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makeitstop Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:31:03pm |
re: #149 EdDantes
You missed the hearings. He made no phone calls that night and was uninterested in what was happening.
While watching live video via drone-cam, according to an overwhelming number of your RWNJ brethren.
So which is it?
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:31:30pm |
re: #145 Kragar (Antichrist )
Second verse, same as the first
A little bit DERPier and a little bit worse.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:32:15pm |
re: #147 goddamnedfrank
Somebody should alert the Guinness World Records people, tell ‘em we’ve got a longest flounce attempt in progress.
The Horribly Slow Murderer with the Extremely Inefficient Weapon by Richard Gale
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EdDantes Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:33:21pm |
re: #148 Lidane
Did you just completely ignore D_F and the others pointing out that there was no immediate help to give?
WTF.
No. I just got back from the grocery store. I wish Panetta and Dempsey had said that Obama was pressuring them to send aid and they explained to him that the logistics didn’t allow that.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:33:47pm |
I heard Obama forced the Secret Service to play 40K with him during Benghazi, and the scenario was based on Benghazi!
Is it a scandal yet?
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Targetpractice Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:34:28pm |
re: #156 EdDantes
No. I just got back from the grocery store. I wish Panetta and Dempsey had said that Obama was pressuring them to send aid and they explained to him that the logistics didn’t allow that.
So that the meme would go from “Obama was incompetent because he didn’t call” to “Obama was incompetent because he demanded the impossible”?
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:35:40pm |
re: #157 goddamnedfrank
I heard Obama forced the Secret Service to play 40K with him during Benghazi, and the scenario was based on Benghazi!
Is it a scandal yet?
What armies?
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jamesfirecat Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:35:41pm |
re: #157 goddamnedfrank
I heard Obama forced the Secret Service to play 40K with him during Benghazi, and the scenario was based on Benghazi!
Is it a scandal yet?
I hear Obama…. Plays Tau, the smug bastard!
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:35:50pm |
re: #157 goddamnedfrank
I heard Obama forced the Secret Service to play 40K with him during Benghazi, and the scenario was based on Benghazi!
Is it a scandal yet?
And Obama played a Tau army!
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:36:10pm |
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EdDantes Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:36:17pm |
re: #150 goddamnedfrank
I heard he even masturbated.
If I were married to Michelle I would do the same.Thank you for bringing that up.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:36:20pm |
re: #157 goddamnedfrank
I heard Obama forced the Secret Service to play 40K with him during Benghazi, and the scenario was based on Benghazi!
Is it a scandal yet?
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!
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Targetpractice Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:37:01pm |
re: #163 EdDantes
If I were married to Michelle I would do the same.Thank you for bringing that up.
Oh, a Michelle joke, how original.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:37:13pm |
re: #163 EdDantes
OK asshole, for that ugly bit of filth you can just fuck off!
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:37:14pm |
re: #163 EdDantes
Okay, you can piss off anytime now.
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makeitstop Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:38:04pm |
Yeah, now would be a good time to complete the flounce.
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jamesfirecat Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:38:23pm |
re: #164 Dark_Falcon
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!
Please everyone knows which chaos god Obama really worships..
Hope and change ring any bells?
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:39:03pm |
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Thundermother(it will turn your head around) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:39:14pm |
re: #152 Dark_Falcon
I checked the feed out. From what I read Malkin’s were some of the lamest. She really has a difficult time with teh funny.
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Targetpractice Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:39:23pm |
re: #168 Lidane
Longest. Flounce. EVAR.
You know, when Eddie came out as BatGuano the other day, I thought it odd and somewhat respectable to admit that, expecting that the fellow might have turned over a new leaf.
Well, we all make mistakes.
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jamesfirecat Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:40:23pm |
re: #172 Dark_Falcon
re: #161 goddamnedfrank
Well, it would have to be the Tau with Obama, wouldn’t it? He agrees with their belief in The Greater Good after all.
//
Also know as the one group in that series that believes in rationally understanding and improving upon technology rather than mindlessly worshiping past triumphs of ages gone by….
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:41:45pm |
re: #171 jamesfirecat
Please everyone knowswhich chaos god Obama really worships..
Hope and change ring any bells?
No, the Tau don’t register enough in the Immaterium yet to have drawn Tzeentch’s attention.
I was more thinking the Al Qaeda terrorists as the Khorne cultists.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:42:07pm |
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EdDantes Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:43:22pm |
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Lidane Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:43:45pm |
This is me, trolling through a Warhammer wiki reading up on deities.
*sigh*
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:44:00pm |
re: #175 jamesfirecat
Also know as the one group in that series that believes in rationally understanding and improving upon technology rather than mindlessly worshiping past triumphs of ages gone by….
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And carting off entire planetary populations to detainment camps to sterilize them for being undesirables, and wholesale brainwashing of alien species…
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:44:27pm |
re: #179 Lidane
This is me, trolling through a Warhammer wiki reading up on deities.
*sigh*
All my nightly posts, gone to nothing.
/
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Targetpractice Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:45:00pm |
re: #179 Lidane
This is me, trolling through a Warhammer wiki reading up on deities.
*sigh*
I now know what it feels like when I talk at length about Star Trek to non-fans.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:45:35pm |
re: #176 Dark_Falcon
No, the Tau don’t register enough in the Immaterium yet to have drawn Tzeentch’s attention.
I was more thinking the Al Qaeda terrorists as the Khorne cultists.
I don’t know, the 72 virgins sound like Slaanesh and Daemonettes to me.
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jamesfirecat Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:46:14pm |
re: #179 Lidane
This is me, trolling through a Warhammer wiki reading up on deities.
*sigh*
Is not that hard there are only four of then at least four important ones.
Khorn the angry one.
Tz,,, can’t spell the rest of it the smart one.
Slanesh the sexy/squirmy one.
And Nurgal the fat one.
See its easy….
At least until you bring all the eldar gods into it though there are only two of those left alive, three if you count one who has been shattered into a. Bunch of really small pieces….
And then of coure you have the C’htan….
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:48:17pm |
re: #180 Kragar (Antichrist )
And carting off entire planetary populations to detainment camps to sterilize them for being undesirables, and wholesale brainwashing of alien species…
They have to at least make an effort to fit into 40K.
I heard that Obama painted up a bunch of Kroot, but refuses to deploy them.
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jamesfirecat Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:48:23pm |
re: #180 Kragar (Antichrist )
And carting off entire planetary populations to detainment camps to sterilize them for being undesirables, and wholesale brainwashing of alien species…
Being undesirables? Those humans on Kronus actively rebelled against the Tau Empire, and at strealization is a hell of a lot better than you would get from the imperium of man under similar circumstances!
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Lidane Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:48:24pm |
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:48:30pm |
re: #185 jamesfirecat
Is not that hard there are only four of then at least four important ones.
Khorn the angry one.
Tz,,, can’t spell the rest of it the smart one.
Slanesh the sexy/squirmy one.
And Nurgal the fat one.
See its easy….
At least until you bring all the eldar gods into it though there are only two of those left alive, three if you count one who has been shattered into a. Bunch of really small pieces….
And then of coure you have the C’htan….
Khorne, ends with an E
Tzeentch
Slaanesh, 2 As
Nurgle, no A, one E
C’tan have no presence in the immaterium, and have also been retconned into a shadow of their former power.
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jamesfirecat Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:48:49pm |
re: #183 Kragar (Antichrist )
I don’t know, the 72 virgins sound like Slaanesh and Daemonettes to me.
I have never met a Slaanesh worshiper who was a virgin.
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EdDantes Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:49:06pm |
re: #166 Dark_Falcon
OK asshole, for that ugly bit of filth you can just fuck off!
Goddamddamnedfrank brought it up. Blame him for lowering the level of discourse. And you’re outrage has been duly noted by the other lizards on this site.
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Targetpractice Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:49:13pm |
re: #185 jamesfirecat
Is not that hard there are only four of then at least four important ones.
Khorn the angry one.
Tz,,, can’t spell the rest of it the smart one.
Slanesh the sexy/squirmy one.
And Nurgal the fat one.
See its easy….
At least until you bring all the eldar gods into it though there are only two of those left alive, three if you count one who has been shattered into a. Bunch of really small pieces….
And then of coure you have the C’htan….
I prefer the Klingon views on religion, namely they have none because Klingon warriors slew their gods, on account of them being more trouble than they were worth.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:50:25pm |
re: #187 jamesfirecat
Being undesirables? Those humans on Kronus actively rebelled against the Tau Empire, and at strealization is a hell of a lot better than you would get from the imperium of man under similar circumstances!
Hey, the Iron Hands only killed off 1 out of every 3 citizens on a planet which rebelled, but didn’t sterilize them. You can’t get more fair than that.
/
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jamesfirecat Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:50:42pm |
re: #189 Kragar (Antichrist )
Khorne, ends with an E
Tzeentch
Slaanesh, 2 As
Nurgle, no A, one EC’tan have no presence in the immaterium, and have also been retconned into a shadow of their former power.
Oh look at you insisting that they have to be spelled a certain way, chaos takes many forms!
/
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EdDantes Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:51:11pm |
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jamesfirecat Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:52:22pm |
re: #193 Kragar (Antichrist )
Hey, the Iron Hands only killed off 1 out of every 3 citizens on a planet which rebelled, but didn’t sterilize them. You can’t get more fair than that.
/
Also said sterilization is clearly non cannon anyway because the Tau lost the Dark Crusade campaign so it’s not like you can extrapolate that on event that never even happened into some sort of empire wide policy.
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Lidane Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:52:33pm |
re: #192 Targetpractice
I prefer the Klingon views on religion, namely they have none because Klingon warriors slew their gods, on account of them being more trouble than they were worth.
I liked the Hitchhiker’s Guide view on God:
Heh.
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EdDantes Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:52:35pm |
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:52:43pm |
re: #194 jamesfirecat
Oh look at you insisting that they have to be spelled a certain way, chaos takes many forms!
/
Don’t blame me, I’d be running a Mechanicus army if they ever break down and finally make an official one.
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Gus Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:53:37pm |
re: #191 EdDantes
Goddamddamnedfrank brought it up. Blame him for lowering the level of discourse. And you’re outrage has been duly noted by the other lizards on this site.
Ronald Reagan is Ronald Reagan. In fact, I don’t share the view that many of my fellow liberals have about him. Perhaps it’s my nihilism. I was depressed during the 8 years of his presidency. So I typically ignore it as much as I do when people call Bush and company war criminals. I draw the line on family however. Regardless of party. I would not accept that kind of language about Michelle Obama and neither would I accept that kind of language about Nancy Reagan.
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wrenchwench Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:53:41pm |
re: #195 EdDantes
That was so eloquent I up dinged you.
Why did you come back, BatGuano?
Why haven’t you left yet?
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:53:54pm |
re: #192 Targetpractice
I prefer the Klingon views on religion, namely they have none because Klingon warriors slew their gods, on account of them being more trouble than they were worth.
Which is why I run Night Lords.
“Demons? Gods? Who the fuck cares? Let kill somebody.”
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jamesfirecat Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:54:22pm |
re: #186 goddamnedfrank
They have to at least make an effort to fit into 40K.
I heard that Obama painted up a bunch of Kroot, but refuses to deploy them.
Yet more proof of his anti-colonial mindset!
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EdDantes Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:55:21pm |
re: #166 Dark_Falcon
OK asshole, for that ugly bit of filth you can just fuck off!
I updinged you too.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:55:27pm |
re: #203 jamesfirecat
Yet more proof of his anti-colonial mindset!
Which is ironic given the Tau’s methodology.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:55:31pm |
re: #185 jamesfirecat
Is not that hard there are only four of then at least four important ones.
Khorn the angry one.
Tz,,, can’t spell the rest of it the smart one.
Slanesh the sexy/squirmy one.
And Nurgal the fat one.
See its easy….
At least until you bring all the eldar gods into it though there are only two of those left alive, three if you count one who has been shattered into a. Bunch of really small pieces….
And then of coure you have the C’htan….
Well, the one who was shattered was a war god, and those who follow his avatars might well end up following Khorne if they aren’t careful. The Eldar goddess of fertility and growth was captured by Slaanesh, but Nurgle captured her from Slaanesh. Nurgle said he did it out of pity, but I’d say he really did it to ‘keep the balance’, since without birth and growth there is no decay and death.
Only the Eldar’s Trickster Good is still an independent force in the 40K universe.
And on the list of Deities, one would be wise not to forget the Emperor of Mankind. The Inquisition would most displeased if you did such a thing.
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122 Year Old Obama Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:57:38pm |
Didn’t Ed here whine about (non-existent) socialism on election night?
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:58:17pm |
re: #206 Dark_Falcon
And on the list of Deities, one would be wise not to forget the Emperor of Mankind. The Inquisition would most displeased if you did such a thing.
Which is even more ironic considering the Empire was originally founded on completely secular beliefs and was militantly opposed to any type of religion.
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klys Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:58:18pm |
I am always torn between depression and entertainment to see resistance to reality played out right in front of me.
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EdDantes Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:59:00pm |
re: #201 wrenchwench
Why did you come back, BatGuano?
Why haven’t you left yet?
I’m attracted to Hippocracy and intellectual dishonesty.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:59:18pm |
re: #205 Kragar (Antichrist )
Which is ironic given the Tau’s methodology.
Given the crowded nature of the galaxy they found themselves in when they developed FTL capability, the only choices for the Tau if they wanted to expand were colonialism or genocide. What makes the Tau “least evil” is that they very much prefer the former to the latter.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Feb 20, 2013 8:59:19pm |
I heard that Hillary mostly runs Grotz, for the lulz.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:00:14pm |
re: #209 Kragar (Antichrist )
Which is even more ironic considering the Empire was originally founded on completely secular beliefs and was militantly opposed to any type of religion.
Very true.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:00:47pm |
re: #211 EdDantes
I’m attracted to Hippocracy and intellectual dishonesty.
Then you must love yourself, boyo.
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EdDantes Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:00:48pm |
re: #207 122 Year Old Obama
Didn’t Ed here whine about (non-existent) socialism on election night?
I did observe that The One was a socialist.
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klys Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:01:07pm |
re: #211 EdDantes
I’m attracted to Hippocracy and intellectual dishonesty.
Yes, we understand the basis for your personal belief system, but that doesn’t answer why you’re here. Still. After you said you’d leave.
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EdDantes Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:01:42pm |
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wrenchwench Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:01:48pm |
re: #211 EdDantes
I’m attracted to Hippocracy and intellectual dishonesty.
You represent those, you mean. After all, you’re the dweeb who ‘confessed’ to being a mere sockpuppet of your former self recently.
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klys Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:03:56pm |
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122 Year Old Obama Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:04:03pm |
re: #216 EdDantes
I did observe that The One was a socialist.
Spoken like someone who doesn’t even know what socialism is.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:04:08pm |
re: #212 Dark_Falcon
What makes the Tau “least evil” is that they very much prefer the former to the latter.
Or so their marketing campaign would have you believe …
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:04:20pm |
re: #212 Dark_Falcon
Given the crowded nature of the galaxy they found themselves in when they developed FTL capability, the only choices for the Tau if they wanted to expand were colonialism or genocide. What makes the Tau “least evil” is that they very much prefer the former to the latter.
You also have to take into account the Tau also are severely casualty averse and prefer nonviolent solutions, such as brainwashing, economic warfare, pheromone manipulation and other methods.
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jamesfirecat Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:05:19pm |
re: #221 122 Year Old Obama
Spoken like someone who doesn’t even know what socialism is.
Here is a general reference guide…
Tau- yes.
Modern Democratic Party -no.
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jamesfirecat Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:06:20pm |
re: #222 goddamnedfrank
Or so their marketing campaign would have you believe …
Please they are the only race in the galaxy that will actually offer you the chance to join them rather than just destroying you /your planet on a whim because you look the wrong way or worship the wrong thing.
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William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:06:43pm |
re: #216 EdDantes
dipshit. I am a card carrying socialist. Go to [Link: www.DSAUSA.org…] if you have the balls.
The president is many things. But a center-right democrat will never be a Socialist.
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Gus Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:07:17pm |
re: #216 EdDantes
I did observe that The One was a socialist.
This is equally annoying as some of the people I see calling him a corporatist.
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Lidane Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:08:42pm |
Huzzah! I now remember the two deities my characters worshipped in WAR. The Witch Elf was a Khaine fangirl and the Warrior Priest was all about Sigmar. My time trolling this Warhammer wiki has not been wasted. Heh.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:09:28pm |
re: #225 jamesfirecat
Please they are the only race in the galaxy that will actually offer you the chance to join them rather than just destroying you /your planet on a whim because you look the wrong way or worship the wrong thing.
Sure, but then they cut your nuts off.
At least Orks iz honest.
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klys Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:09:38pm |
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Shvaughn Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:09:58pm |
re: #211 EdDantes
I’m attracted to Hippocracy and intellectual dishonesty.
Doesn’t “hippocracy” mean “rule by horses”?
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klys Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:10:56pm |
re: #231 Shvaughn
Doesn’t “hippocracy” mean “rule by horses”?
Maybe that’s why we all should have voted for Romney? Dressage for all!
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wrenchwench Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:11:20pm |
re: #231 Shvaughn
Doesn’t “hippocracy” mean “rule by horses”?
What’s the word for ‘ruled by the back end of a horse’?
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:11:21pm |
re: #225 jamesfirecat
Please they are the only race in the galaxy that will actually offer you the chance to join them rather than just destroying you /your planet on a whim because you look the wrong way or worship the wrong thing.
You’re forgetting the Interex and the Diasporex.
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Lidane Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:11:38pm |
re: #232 klys
Maybe that’s why we all should have voted for Romney? Dressage for all!
Only if all the horses are the right height.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:12:30pm |
re: #232 klys
Maybe that’s why we all should have voted for Romney? Dressage for all!
It depends. Are the Horses complainers who want “free stuff”?
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:13:00pm |
re: #229 goddamnedfrank
Sure, but then they cut your nuts off.
At least Orks iz honest.
“The Orks are the pinnacle of creation. For them, the great struggle is won. They have evolved a society which knows no stress or angst. Who are we to judge them? We Eldar who have failed, or the Humans, on the road to ruin in their turn? And why? Because we sought answers to questions that an Ork wouldn’t even bother to ask! We see a culture that is strong and despise it as crude.” - Uthan the Perverse, Eldar philosopher
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Gus Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:13:05pm |
Obama is a Democrat. Many of the programs he’s working with have survived almost 8 years of Nixon, 8 years of Ronald Reagan, 4 years of George H.W. Bush, and 8 years of George W. Bush.
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jamesfirecat Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:13:10pm |
re: #229 goddamnedfrank
Sure, but then they cut your nuts off.
At least Orks iz honest.
Honestly the only example of sterilizing people that the Tau are involved in is in their end of Dark Crusade which it is not confirmed, is told to us through an imperial scribe who is not the most unbiased of sources, would have been done to a population that rebelled openly against them, and is all non cannon anyway because the Tau lost the Dark Crusade.
People need to stop harping on it.
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Shvaughn Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:13:14pm |
re: #233 wrenchwench
What’s the word for ‘ruled by the back end of a horse’?
.”Bush Administration.”
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Lidane Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:13:22pm |
re: #236 HappyWarrior
Are the Horses complainers who want “free stuff”?
The 47% that are the wrong height, yes.
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Gus Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:14:23pm |
Those “socialistic” federal highways were also brought to you by Dwight D. Eisenhower.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:15:34pm |
I heard that Mitt Romney runs ‘Crons that underlings paint for him, and plays for pink slips.
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Lidane Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:15:50pm |
re: #242 Gus
Those “socialistic” federal highways were also brought to you by Dwight D. Eisenhower.
Let’s not forget that communist program of rural electrification. ZOMG SOSHULISM!
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:16:42pm |
re: #239 jamesfirecat
Honestly the only example of sterilizing people that the Tau are involved in is in their end of Dark Crusade which it is not confirmed, is told to us through an imperial scribe who is not the most unbiased of sources, would have been done to a population that rebelled openly against them, and is all non cannon anyway because the Tau lost the Dark Crusade.
People need to stop harping on it.
LIES!
[Link: warhammer40k.wikia.com…]
There have also been reports that the Tau have begun to take a tougher line against some human colony worlds, sterilising their populations so that the human population will die out and leave the worlds open for full Tau colonisation. This policy was known to have been carried out following the Tau conquest of the desert mining world of Taros.
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EdDantes Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:16:44pm |
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klys Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:17:01pm |
I forget, what falls under the heading of socialism these days? Is it all spending except for defense spending?
I can’t keep the talking points straight…
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jamesfirecat Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:17:03pm |
re: #243 goddamnedfrank
I heard that Mitt Romney runs ‘Crons that underlings paint for him, and plays for pink slips.
Please Mitt Romney plays Ultra Marines, because he’s the best and everyone else should have to lookup to him because of what he was born into.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:17:07pm |
All kidding aside, the Tau really are super gay.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:17:08pm |
Frankly every president has done something that if you were to really look at it could be construed as socialistic. This is probably why we’re seeing a bunch of Coolidge revisionism now. There’s a new biography of him out which lionizes him.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:18:10pm |
re: #248 jamesfirecat
Please Mitt Romney plays Ultra Marines, because he’s the best and everyone else should have to lookup to him because of what he was born into.
Sounds like an Eldar to me.
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Shvaughn Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:18:40pm |
re: #246 EdDantes
Indeed, I admit to a misspelling.
I’m gonna upding you for admitting it.
“Hippocracy” is funny though.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:18:47pm |
re: #247 klys
I forget, what falls under the heading of socialism these days? Is it all spending except for defense spending?
I can’t keep the talking points straight…
From what I understand, spending on social programs is socialistic but Romney proposing massive increases in defense spending is fine. Funny how “big government” is always social programs but never defense waste. Surely, that’s a coincidence.
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jamesfirecat Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:20:05pm |
re: #245 Kragar (Antichrist )
LIES!
[Link: warhammer40k.wikia.com…]
Matt Ward is responsible for this somehow, I know it…..
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klys Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:20:30pm |
re: #253 HappyWarrior
From what I understand, spending on social programs is socialistic but Romney proposing massive increases in defense spending is fine. Funny how “big government” is always social programs but never defense waste. Surely, that’s a coincidence.
There was a phrase earlier that feels relevant here. I think it was something like “intellectual dishonesty”? Surely the Republican party wouldn’t embrace something like that…
//
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EdDantes Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:20:32pm |
re: #242 Gus
Those “socialistic” federal highways were also brought to you by Dwight D. Eisenhower.
Highways are in the constitution. They are referred to as “post roads.” Article 1 section 8.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:20:55pm |
re: #254 jamesfirecat
Matt Ward is responsible for this somehow, I know it…..
If you say his name 5 times over a gaming table…
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:21:05pm |
re: #223 Kragar (Antichrist )
You also have to take into account the Tau also are severely casualty averse and prefer nonviolent solutions, such as brainwashing, economic warfare, pheromone manipulation and other methods.
Indeed. The only time the Tau have truly gone all-out was against the Tyrannids, and that only because with the Tyrannids its strictly “destroy them or be eaten by them”.
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jamesfirecat Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:21:09pm |
re: #251 Kragar (Antichrist )
Sounds like an Eldar to me.
No beacuse Eldar also have a sense that their race is in decline and that they fucked things up in the world and are trying to make it better, even if they chiefly do so by being manipulating dicks.
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William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:21:34pm |
re: #250 HappyWarrior
Frankly every president has done something that if you were to really look at it could be construed as socialistic. This is probably why we’re seeing a bunch of Coolidge revisionism now. There’s a new biography of him out which lionizes him.
One of the few things that Coolidge understood was the idea that it was better for him to be silent and be thought an idiot than to open his mouth and prove he was one.
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Thundermother(it will turn your head around) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:21:45pm |
re: #249 goddamnedfrank
Sitting here reading this thread, knowing absolutely nothing about what the hell any of you are talking about, I’m going to await Kragar the antichrist’s reply.
I should probably just go to bed.
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jamesfirecat Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:21:57pm |
re: #249 goddamnedfrank
All kidding aside, the Tau really are super gay.
Well then I’ll just take my infantry mount twin linked 10-1 attacks and go home.
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klys Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:22:14pm |
re: #260 William Barnett-Lewis
One of the few things that Coolidge understood was the idea that it was better for him to be silent and be thought an idiot than to open his mouth and prove he was one.
I find this is sound advice for anyone, president or not.
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Gus Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:22:35pm |
re: #256 EdDantes
Highways are in the constitution. They are referred to as “post roads.” Article 1 section 8.
Then it appears that our constitution has a form of socialism.
All forms of government have a form of socialism. On the extreme end it was the Nazis and the Soviets. A Republican Party based government would retain current American elements of what can be perceived as socialism. It’s not like they would take over in 2016 and eliminate Social Security.
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Lidane Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:22:38pm |
re: #250 HappyWarrior
Frankly every president has done something that if you were to really look at it could be construed as socialistic.
By the standards of today’s GOP, Nixon was a goddamn pinko. Instituted wage and price controls, took us off the gold standard, signed the Clean Air and Clean Water acts, signed Title IX, created both OSHA and the EPA, went to China, etc.
Never mind the fact that he was a cruel, vindictive bastard. He couldn’t get out of the primaries today.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:22:44pm |
re: #259 jamesfirecat
No beacuse Eldar also have a sense that their race is in decline and that they fucked things up in the world and are trying to make it better, even if they chiefly do so by being manipulating dicks.
Not those asshats from Biel-Tan.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:22:46pm |
re: #251 Kragar (Antichrist )
Sounds like an Eldar to me.
Not really. He’s old and wealthy, but he is not haunted as the Eldar are, always careful lest Slaanesh should devour their souls.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:22:59pm |
re: #262 jamesfirecat
Well then I’ll just take my infantry mount twin linked 10-1 attacks and go home.
‘Nids are arguably worse because they have no real personality at all.
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jamesfirecat Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:22:59pm |
re: #257 Kragar (Antichrist )
If you say his name 5 times over a gaming table…
He will appear and berate you for not playing Ultra Marines.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:23:19pm |
re: #265 Lidane
By the standards of today’s GOP, Nixon was a goddamn pinko. Instituted wage and price controls, took us off the gold standard, signed the Clean Air and Clean Water acts, signed Title IX, created both OSHA and the EPA, went to China, etc.
Never mind the fact that he was a cruel, vindictive bastard. He couldn’t get out of the primaries today.
Precisely.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:23:54pm |
re: #261 Thundermother(it will turn your head around)
Sitting here reading this thread, knowing absolutely nothing about what the hell any of you are talking about, I’m going to await the Kragar the antichrist’s reply.
I should probably just go to bed.
No, the Tau are super gay.
I enjoyed ripping them apart with Space Wolves.
OUTFLANKING THUNDERWOLVES FTW!
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William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:24:08pm |
re: #264 Gus
Them it appears that our constitution has a form of socialism.
All forms of government have a form of socialism. On the extreme end it was the Nazis and the Soviets. A Republican Party based government would retain current American elements of what can be perceived as socialism. It’s not like they would take over in 2016 and eliminate Social Security.
Well, they might try. But the horde of pitchforks & torches out of Florida would be an amazing thing to see…
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:24:14pm |
re: #267 Dark_Falcon
Not really. He’s old and wealthy, but he is not haunted as the Eldar are, always careful lest Slaanesh should devour their souls.
So Dark Eldar then.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:24:45pm |
re: #260 William Barnett-Lewis
One of the few things that Coolidge understood was the idea that it was better for him to be silent and be thought an idiot than to open his mouth and prove he was one.
Yeah heh. I blame Coolidge more for the depression than I do Hoover honestly. Hoover was in part at the wrong place at the wrong time. And unlike Coolidge, I wouldn’t say Hoover was a bad guy. Perhaps a little stuck in his ways but Coolidge seemed to have little compassion for anyone.
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jamesfirecat Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:24:52pm |
re: #268 goddamnedfrank
‘Nids are arguably worse because they have no real personality at all.
What part of OMNOMNOM did you not understand?
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jamesfirecat Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:25:48pm |
re: #273 Kragar (Antichrist )
So Dark Eldar then.
No, because even dark eldar are still hunted by she who thirsts, they just seek to throw skler off their trail by causing as much pains and suffering around them as possible like some sort of ethereal chaff…
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Targetpractice Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:25:48pm |
re: #265 Lidane
By the standards of today’s GOP, Nixon was a goddamn pinko. Instituted wage and price controls, took us off the gold standard, signed the Clean Air and Clean Water acts, signed Title IX, created both OSHA and the EPA, went to China, etc.
Never mind the fact that he was a cruel, vindictive bastard. He couldn’t get out of the primaries today.
Nixon was pragmatic, despite all the negative connotations that word has received in recent years. But most of the “good” presidents have been, pushing ideology where they could succeed and accepting compromise where they couldn’t.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:25:50pm |
One thing I think we can all agree on.
Psykers would kick a Jedi’s pansy ass.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:26:16pm |
re: #264 Gus
Them it appears that our constitution has a form of socialism.
All forms of government have a form of socialism. On the extreme end it was the Nazis and the Soviets. A Republican Party based government would retain current American elements of what can be perceived as socialism. It’s not like they would take over in 2016 and eliminate Social Security.
Yep, really, this is why I resent the TP and the current right. They act like before Obama became president that we were somehow a purely capitalistic economy. The real debate over the years has not been socialism versus capitalism within this country but rather the degree.
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EdDantes Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:26:31pm |
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Targetpractice Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:26:38pm |
re: #278 Kragar (Antichrist )
One thing I think we can all agree on.
Psykers would kick a Jedi’s pansy ass.
Before or after someone invoked the word “midichlorians”?
*ducks*
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William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:27:19pm |
re: #274 HappyWarrior
Yeah heh. I blame Coolidge more for the depression than I do Hoover honestly. Hoover was in part at the wrong place at the wrong time. And unlike Coolidge, I wouldn’t say Hoover was a bad guy. Perhaps a little stuck in his ways but Coolidge seemed to have little compassion for anyone.
I regret that I have but one upding for this important historical understanding.
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Targetpractice Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:27:44pm |
re: #279 HappyWarrior
Yep, really, this is why I resent the TP and the current right. They act like before Obama became president that we were somehow a purely capitalistic economy. The real debate over the years has not been socialism versus capitalism within this country but rather the degree.
Reminds of a rather infamous Churchill quote as to having established what we are, and now are simply negotiating the price.
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jamesfirecat Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:28:09pm |
re: #271 Kragar (Antichrist )
No, the Tau are super gay.
I enjoyed ripping them apart with Space Wolves.
OUTFLANKING THUNDERWOLVES FTW!
You know space wolves feel great shame about how they do not religiously follow the teachings of Roboute Guilliman are fucking awesome.
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jamesfirecat Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:28:43pm |
re: #278 Kragar (Antichrist )
One thing I think we can all agree on.
Psykers would kick a Jedi’s pansy ass.
Unless their head suddenly explodes…
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EdDantes Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:29:05pm |
re: #231 Shvaughn
Doesn’t “hippocracy” mean “rule by horses”?
i updinged you you magnificent bastard!
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:29:14pm |
Jedi Mind Tricks:
“These aren’t the droids you are looking for.”
Psyker mind tricks:
“SHOW YOURSELVES!” then shoots the gunmen who steps out of cover.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:29:28pm |
re: #277 Targetpractice
Nixon was pragmatic, despite all the negative connotations that word has received in recent years. But most of the “good” presidents have been, pushing ideology where they could succeed and accepting compromise where they couldn’t.
I really think if not for Watergate and having a shitty disposition, Nixon would be remembered differently. We want to like our presidents. We love Lincoln’s folksiness, FDR’s optimism, JFK’s hopes for the future, Reagan’s sunniness, and Clinton’s empathy. Nixon was a smart guy, perhaps one of the smartest men ever to be president but he really lacked some of the traits that people really like in a leader. I’m always amazed that despite this, he still managed to be on a presidential ticket five times which is the record along with FDR for a person running on a major party ticket.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:29:36pm |
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wrenchwench Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:29:57pm |
That’s ‘graffiti’ in a Juarez skatepark. A preliminary sketch included a pipe and some smoke. And a propeller beanie.
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Gus Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:30:07pm |
re: #279 HappyWarrior
Yep, really, this is why I resent the TP and the current right. They act like before Obama became president that we were somehow a purely capitalistic economy. The real debate over the years has not been socialism versus capitalism within this country but rather the degree.
Look at the corporations that rely on this ad-hoc socialism. Airlines, maritime, mining, oil, petroleum, etc. A lot of research and development that’s done at public universities. Even pro-football is part of the deal.
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jamesfirecat Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:32:30pm |
re: #289 Kragar (Antichrist )
Well, sure there is that chance.
Talking about people’s heads exploding reminds me of the my little pony warhammer 40 spacemareine rpg game I played at Origins last year where the orks where amazed that there was no chance receiving a letting from Princess Celestial night cause Spike’s head to explode.
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Targetpractice Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:32:33pm |
re: #288 HappyWarrior
I really think if not for Watergate and having a shitty disposition, Nixon would be remembered differently. We want to like our presidents. We love Lincoln’s folksiness, FDR’s optimism, JFK’s hopes for the future, Reagan’s sunniness, and Clinton’s empathy. Nixon was a smart guy, perhaps one of the smartest men ever to be president but he really lacked some of the traits that people really like in a leader. I’m always amazed that despite this, he still managed to be on a presidential ticket five times which is the record along with FDR for a person running on a major party ticket.
It’s questionable if Nixon would ever have been president were it not for the Civil Right Act and the subsequent spike in fear amongst the Southern white populace that gave rise to the “Southern Strategy.” To quote General Taylor:
“Bullshit! I know Nixon personally. He lugs a trainload of shit behind him that could fertilize the Sinai. Why, I wouldn’t buy an apple from the son of a bitch and I consider him a good, close, personal friend. “
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HappyWarrior Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:32:39pm |
re: #292 Gus
Look at the corporations that rely on this ad-hoc socialism. Airlines, maritime, mining, oil, petroleum, etc. A lot of research and development that’s done at public universities. Even pro-football is part of the deal.
Yep and we think nothing of it by and large outside of purer than thou libertarians who think the solution is just to privatize everything and hope for the best.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:32:45pm |
The Force: “The Force is what gives a Jedi his power. It’s an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us; it binds the galaxy together.”
Psykers: “Picture a door. Behind that door is every nightmare ever dreamed, every torture ever inflicted, and the power to reshape and destroy worlds. Now, place that door inside your head. That is what it means to be a Psyker.”
Jedis? HA!
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Shvaughn Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:33:20pm |
Huh, the bottom posts are all EdDantes. Imagine that.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:34:33pm |
re: #291 wrenchwench
That’s ‘graffiti’ in a Juarez skatepark. A preliminary sketch included a pipe and some smoke. And a propeller beanie.
The visual effect is just incredible.
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EdDantes Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:36:00pm |
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:36:29pm |
re: #296 Kragar (Antichrist )
The Force: “The Force is what gives a Jedi his power. It’s an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us; it binds the galaxy together.”
Psykers: “Picture a door. Behind that door is every nightmare ever dreamed, every torture ever inflicted, and the power to reshape and destroy worlds. Now, place that door inside your head. That is what it means to be a Psyker.”
Jedis? HA!
And the worst part: Without warning, one of the Ruinous Powers on the other side of that door may find the key to it. And if they do they’ll turn you into a monster, regardless of whether you want to come one.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:37:41pm |
re: #298 prairiefire
Yet, he created the EPA.
He did so reluctantly. Still a good deed but Nixon’s environmental initiatives differed from this health care ones which I think did come from a sincere desire to help the poor and sick. Remember he was a poor kid himself and had lost two brothers to TB. I really can never understand Nixon though. Read a review of a new book about him and Eisenhower, and the reviewer points out that Nixon was praised heavily by MLK and Jackie Robinson for his work on Civil Rights as VP. But then of course he later embraced the Southern Strategy and you can hear on the Nixon tapes him saying some less than flattering things about African Americans. I wish I could figure the man out. He fascinates me because I see a human side to him beyond the image of him.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:38:37pm |
re: #301 Dark_Falcon
And the worst part: Without warning, one of the Ruinous Powers on the other side of that door may find the key to it. And if they do they’ll turn you into a monster, regardless of whether you want to come one.
Well, that is where the soul binding and other training techniques come in. Plus there is always the Emperor’s Mercy.
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Targetpractice Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:38:51pm |
re: #298 prairiefire
Yet, he created the EPA.
Consider that the year before that had seen what then was the largest oil spill in US waters and the Cuyahoga River catching fire due to all the pollution dumped into it. For Nixon to have come out against such legislation would have been hazardous to his reelection.
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EdDantes Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:39:13pm |
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wrenchwench Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:42:13pm |
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HappyWarrior Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:42:49pm |
Wish I had that Nixon term paper I wrote. Alas it’s on my old laptop whose cord I can’t locate. Anyhow. Here’s another part of Nixon’s domestic legacy that doesn’t get much talk but he did a lot for Native American tribes. One tribal leader even went to call him the Native American Lincoln for the things he did. I’d have to look at the paper for specifics. I really do feel that while Nixon had flaws, I think his greatest was that he just didn’t like or trust people. That’s a fatal quality in a leader especially a democratic one.
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William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:43:19pm |
re: #303 HappyWarrior
He did so reluctantly. Still a good deed but Nixon’s environmental initiatives differed from this health care ones which I think did come from a sincere desire to help the poor and sick. Remember he was a poor kid himself and had lost two brothers to TB. I really can never understand Nixon though. Read a review of a new book about him and Eisenhower, and the reviewer points out that Nixon was praised heavily by MLK and Jackie Robinson for his work on Civil Rights as VP. But then of course he later embraced the Southern Strategy and you can hear on the Nixon tapes him saying some less than flattering things about African Americans. I wish I could figure the man out. He fascinates me because I see a human side to him beyond the image of him.
Nixon is a weird edge case for everyone. When I’m in a good mood about him, I like to remember the sequence from “Fear & Loathing on the Campaign Trail: 1972” where he & HST talk about the NFL because politics is off limits. They had a good talk…
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wrenchwench Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:45:54pm |
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HappyWarrior Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:46:24pm |
re: #309 William Barnett-Lewis
Nixon is a weird edge case for everyone. When I’m in a good mood about him, I like to remember the sequence from “Fear & Loathing on the Campaign Trail: 1972” where he & HST talk about the NFL because politics is off limits. They had a good talk…
Yeah, I see the human side to Nixon. I had to read his memoirs for the paper I mentioned. It was hard not to be moved when he talked about the sorrow of losing two of his brothers to TB. My great grandfather’s first wife died of TB. But then I think about things like the Southern Strategy, expanding the Vietnam War, and the coup in CHile that resulted in Pinochet getting in power.
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William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:48:53pm |
Anyone else here a fan of Schlock Mercenary?
Know what a challenge coin is?
There’s a kickstarter for a Tagon’s Toughs coin now…
[Link: www.kickstarter.com…]
Yes, I have already wasted some money on said trinket… ;) Hoo-ah!
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prairiefire Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:50:09pm |
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wrenchwench Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:50:51pm |
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Targetpractice Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:50:57pm |
re: #308 HappyWarrior
Wish I had that Nixon term paper I wrote. Alas it’s on my old laptop whose cord I can’t locate. Anyhow. Here’s another part of Nixon’s domestic legacy that doesn’t get much talk but he did a lot for Native American tribes. One tribal leader even went to call him the Native American Lincoln for the things he did. I’d have to look at the paper for specifics. I really do feel that while Nixon had flaws, I think his greatest was that he just didn’t like or trust people. That’s a fatal quality in a leader especially a democratic one.
Nixon’s personality was one that, if he were a politician today, would probably best be described as a persecution complex. Convinced that everybody automatically assumes the worst of him and so assuming the worst of them in response. Going through life thinking that everybody is against him, is going to trick and deceive him, and that he has to be smarter or meaner than them to prevail. Problem was, it was a self-fulfilling prophecy, as his stand-offish and brutal personality made others assume the worst about him.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:51:13pm |
re: #308 HappyWarrior
Wish I had that Nixon term paper I wrote. Alas it’s on my old laptop whose cord I can’t locate. Anyhow. Here’s another part of Nixon’s domestic legacy that doesn’t get much talk but he did a lot for Native American tribes. One tribal leader even went to call him the Native American Lincoln for the things he did. I’d have to look at the paper for specifics. I really do feel that while Nixon had flaws, I think his greatest was that he just didn’t like or trust people. That’s a fatal quality in a leader especially a democratic one.
That and he couldn’t get a fairly simple group of bribes paid. If it had been Mitt Romney, he’d only have had to find out how much was needed, then set his financial lackeys. No one would ever know where the bribe money came from.
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Gus Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:51:29pm |
He could convince Senator Jim Buckley to cosponsor the 1972 Clean Water Act. Buckley came to understand the relationship between his conservative political philosophy and the concept of conservation under Muskie’s tutelage. As a result, he became an articulate supporter of the landmark 1972 Clean Water Act. As Buckley said: “I know of no situation in private life where a newcomer would have been accorded greater consideration, or where differences of opinion would have been given a fairer hearing than that which was characteristic of both the Committee on Public Works and its Subcommittee on Air and Water Pollution. I feel particularly fortunate to be a member of both and to have been able to work with the two chairmen and the committee staff, who have made so great an effort to accommodate differences of approach to common objectives.”
Jim Buckley. Member of the Conservative Party of New York at that time. Later he became a Republican. Brother to William F. Buckley. Seems so long ago when we had conservatives like this. Others like Millicent Fenwick. These were the establishment Republicans. Blue bloods, and northeast intellectuals. Now?
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Gus Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:53:03pm |
Now? We have a party that follows Breitbart.com. I will now jump out the window. //
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Targetpractice Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:53:40pm |
re: #319 Gus
Now? We have a party that follows Breitbart.com. I will now jump out the window. //
But you’re on the first floor.
//
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HappyWarrior Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:54:27pm |
re: #318 Gus
Jim Buckley. Member of the Conservative Party of New York at that time. Later he became a Republican. Brother to William F. Buckley. Seems so long ago when we had conservatives like this. Others like Millicent Fenwick. These were the establishment Republicans. Blue bloods, and northeast intellectuals. Now?
Now? They’re trying to survive. The GOP honestly lost a lot if its intellectualism when the party became more Southern in orientation. That’s not to say southern means unintellectual but the party has gone from having people like Everett Dirksen and Hugh SCott lead it in the Senate to Mitch McConnell.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:03:21pm |
re: #318 Gus
Jim Buckley. Member of the Conservative Party of New York at that time. Later he became a Republican. Brother to William F. Buckley. Seems so long ago when we had conservatives like this. Others like Millicent Fenwick. These were the establishment Republicans. Blue bloods, and northeast intellectuals. Now?
Well, Buckley only served one term, but you can’t really blame him for not getting reelected: He lost to Daniel Patrick Moynihan. Another high quality senator, who had already done the state of New York a good term in the primary by defeating the radical congresswoman Bella Abzug.
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wrenchwench Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:05:15pm |
Later, lizards.
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TedStriker Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:05:29pm |
re: #294 Targetpractice
It’s questionable if Nixon would ever have been president were it not for the Civil Right Act and the subsequent spike in fear amongst the Southern white populace that gave rise to the “Southern Strategy.” To quote General Taylor:
“Bullshit! I know Nixon personally. He lugs a trainload of shit behind him that could fertilize the Sinai. Why, I wouldn’t buy an apple from the son of a bitch and I consider him a good, close, personal friend. “
One of my favorite lines from Good Morning, Vietnam, besides “Excuse me, sir. Seeing as how the VP is such a VIP, shouldn’t we keep the PC on the QT? ‘Cause if it leaks to the VC he could end up MIA, and then we’d all be put on KP” and “You know, you’re in more dire need of a blowjob than any white man in history.”
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freetoken Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:07:16pm |
More goodness from Soundcloud - the last three movements of Telemann’s Viola Concerto (don’t know why the artist left out the first movement.)
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Gus Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:07:39pm |
re: #323 Dark_Falcon
Well, Buckley only served one term, but you can’t really blame him for not getting reelected: He lost to Daniel Patrick Moynihan. Another high quality senator, who had already done the state of New York a good term in the primary by defeating the radical congressman Bella Abzug.
I don’t know what’s happened. We’ve advanced socially but regressed intellectually. We used to go to the library and read a book. Now we search on Google, find what we’re looking for, and suddenly we’re an instant expert. People used to debate for hour in a dry boring setting. Now, we debate in game show like environments.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:09:02pm |
re: #327 Gus
I don’t know what’s happened. We’ve advanced socially but regressed intellectually. We used to go to the library and read a book. Now we search on Google, find what we’re looking for, and suddenly we’re an instant expert. People used to debate for hour in a dry boring setting. Now, we debate in game show like environments.
Sounds like you’re blaming instant gratification.
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TedStriker Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:09:50pm |
re: #323 Dark_Falcon
Well, Buckley only served one term, but you can’t really blame him for not getting reelected: He lost to Daniel Patrick Moynihan. Another high quality senator, who had already done the state of New York a good term in the primary by defeating the radical congressman Bella Abzug.
Dark, I posit that you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.
First off, Abzug was a woman, not a man. Next, what did Abzug champion that was “radical”; back it up with hard facts, not opinion.
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Gus Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:10:11pm |
re: #328 Dark_Falcon
Sounds like you’re blaming instant gratification.
Ha! My next comment was this: everything is instant. One of mom’s favorite sayings.
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Gus Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:12:26pm |
re: #329 TedStriker
Dark, I posit that you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.
First Abzug was a Woman, not a man. Next, what did Abzug champion that was “radical”; back it up with hard facts, not opinion.
I knew that she was a woman here. I’m from Joisy. Plus, radical can be a good quality. That she lost to the great Moynihan was a good thing. Yet she continued to contribute to the debate and not devolve into blog memes and trending Twitter hash tags. :D
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Targetpractice Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:12:47pm |
re: #328 Dark_Falcon
Sounds like you’re blaming instant gratification.
I blame instant gratification largely on the Boomers. Then again, there’s not much I don’t blame on the Boomers. In fact, now that I think about it, why don’t those dinosaurs just head off to the tar pits and save us all the headaches?
//
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:13:35pm |
re: #329 TedStriker
I know she was a woman. That was an error on my part, now corrected. As for backing it up, I decline to do so. Backing up a minor line like that isn’t worth my time.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:13:55pm |
Abzug was one of the first people in Congress to support gay rights. Radical, yeah probably but radicals are needed in history.
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Single-handed sailor Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:15:22pm |
re: #329 TedStriker
Dark, I posit that you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.
First off, Abzug was a woman, not a man. Next, what did Abzug champion that was “radical”; back it up with hard facts, not opinion.
Civil rights, women’s rights, and gay rights.
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TedStriker Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:15:42pm |
re: #333 Dark_Falcon
I know she was a woman. That was an error on my part, now corrected. As for backing it up, I decline to do so. Backing up a minor line like that isn’t worth my time.
Well, you called her a “radical”, without any supporting evidence.
Put up or shut up.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:15:49pm |
re: #334 HappyWarrior
Abzug was one of the first people in Congress to support gay rights. Radical, yeah probably but radicals are needed in history.
Sometimes, yes. But better that Moyinhan was elected senator than her. He was more qualified, and frankly the US Senate really is not a place for radicals. It’s simply too clubby for them.
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bratwurst Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:16:39pm |
re: #323 Dark_Falcon
Another high quality senator, who had already done the state of New York a good term in the primary by defeating the radical congressman Bella Abzug.
Can you do me a favor and reassure me that you are not making a misogynistic statement about Abzug by referring to her as a man? I am less troubled by the fact you seem to consider her “radical”, although I would point out that she was a passionate Zionist, a champion of civil rights (both as an attorney as in politics), and her stance on gay rights in the first half of the 70s would be considered pretty close to the mainstream today.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:16:44pm |
re: #337 TedStriker
Well, you called her a “radical”, without any supporting evidence.
Put up or shut up.
I decline to do either.
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TedStriker Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:17:39pm |
re: #336 Single-handed sailor
Civil rights, women’s rights, and gay rights.
Which were “radical” political positions at one time not so long ago (and, apparently, still are to some).
Treating all as equals should not be considered “radical”.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:18:44pm |
re: #339 bratwurst
My use of initial of ‘Congressman’ was an error, I had intended to write ‘congresswoman’ and have since corrected the post to read that.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:18:45pm |
re: #338 Dark_Falcon
Sometimes, yes. But better that Moyinhan was elected senator than her. He was more qualified, and frankly the US Senate really is not a place for radicals. It’s simply too clubby for them.
He was a fine senator. But listen, I understand why you prefer DPM and that’s fine. But she was plenty qualified for the job having been a three term Congresswoman in 1976. And frankly the Senate does need radicals. It needs people to provoke thought. But really, I don’t see anything crazily radical about her.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:22:21pm |
re: #343 HappyWarrior
He was a fine senator. But listen, I understand why you prefer DPM and that’s fine. But she was plenty qualified for the job having been a three term Congresswoman in 1976. And frankly the Senate does need radicals. It needs people to provoke thought. But really, I don’t see anything crazily radical about her.
Understand, though, that I never like radicals. They scare me, and can threaten to upset the predictability and routine I use to keep myself relatively calm and functional.
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TedStriker Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:23:15pm |
re: #340 Dark_Falcon
I decline to do either.
Then I decline to take anything that you say from this point out as anything but illogical ravings of someone with ulterior political motives.
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Shvaughn Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:24:56pm |
re: #344 Dark_Falcon
Understand, though, that I never like radicals. They scare me, and can threaten to upset the predictability and routine I use to keep myself relatively calm and functional.
“Radical” here just means beliefs which you probably agree with, in 2013. Right?
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TedStriker Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:25:49pm |
re: #344 Dark_Falcon
Understand, though, that I never like radicals. They scare me, and can threaten to upset the predictability and routine I use to keep myself relatively calm and functional.
In short, you’re scared of any change in the social order, because it may affect you.
How in the fuck can you even enjoy anything in life or even just get along day-to-day without being paralyzed with abject terror?
Life’s too fucking short…get over yourself and your fear of change.
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freetoken Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:26:22pm |
“Radicals”.
Who are the “radicals”?
As I continue to work on my genealogy, filling in holes, it appears as if I am descended from one of the survivors of Indian massacre of 1622.
That’s almost 400 years ago, and quite a bit has changed. What was once “radical” is no more radical the indoor plumbing.
As the English settlers deposed the natives from their lands, and the natives fought back, who were the “radicals”?
Looking at what is written about the land division of the shire of James City, they list the inhabitants and include one “Margaret, a negro.” Was she the “radical” back then?
Were the Indians the “radicals”?
Or maybe it was the English colonists, who took the radical step of crossing an ocean (on which many of them died), landing in a foreign land upon which they knew not how to survive?
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Gus Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:27:18pm |
re: #344 Dark_Falcon
Understand, though, that I never like radicals. They scare me, and can threaten to upset the predictability and routine I use to keep myself relatively calm and functional.
That’s cool. I’m not here to convert you. Was trying to find some common ground with ya’. It appears that I got you into trouble with the group.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:28:13pm |
re: #344 Dark_Falcon
Understand, though, that I never like radicals. They scare me, and can threaten to upset the predictability and routine I use to keep myself relatively calm and functional.
Fair enough, you are of course entitled to your feelings on radicals. I think we need them and I say that about even radicals whose positions I despise. Perhaps one needs a John C. Calhoun to see the absurdity of the apologia for slavery to see slavery’s moral wrong. But again truthfully I don’t see anything that radical about Bella Abzug. She did have some fairly radical views for her time but being staunchly pro choice, pro gay rights, etc is a pretty mainstream position for most politicians from her party now. I think Monyihan was great. A real intellectual and one of the best senators but I think Abzug would have been good too. A radical like that who spoke for those who lacked a voice at that time in the Senate would have been good IMO.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:28:17pm |
re: #347 TedStriker
In short, you’re scared of any change in the social order, because it may affect you.
How in the fuck can you even enjoy anything in life or even just get along day-to-day without being paralyzed in abject terror?
Not so. I can handle change but I prefer slow, gradual change that allows me to adjust my patterns to fit it. Swift and large scale change is what I find unnerving.
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bratwurst Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:30:57pm |
re: #344 Dark_Falcon
Understand, though, that I never like radicals. They scare me, and can threaten to upset the predictability and routine I use to keep myself relatively calm and functional.
Can I suggest you give up using Richard Nixon’s “Enemies List” as your guide to who is and isn’t a radical? If you would take a moment to actually learn something about her and her record before passing judgement, you would probably find that you admire so much about her work that you could forgive her the sin of being against the Vietnam War.
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TedStriker Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:31:22pm |
re: #349 Gus
That’s cool. I’m not here to convert you. Was trying to find some common ground with ya’. It appears that I got you into trouble with the group.
No “trouble” with D_F here, aside from trying to wrap my head around how someone as apparently intelligent as him can be so fearful of others and change.
No one really likes wholesale change, especially especially when it comes to our society, but he comes across as being terrified and damn near paralyzed by the mere thought of it.
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Shvaughn Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:31:46pm |
Oh, gross.
Corpse found in L.A. hotel’s water tank
Tourists staying at a Los Angeles hotel bathed, brushed teeth and drank with water from a tank in which a young woman’s body was likely decomposing for more than two weeks, police said.
Elisa Lam’s corpse was found in the Cecil Hotel’s rooftop water tank by a maintenance worker who was trying to figure out why the water pressure was low Tuesday.
Lam’s parents reported her missing in early February. The last sighting of her was in the hotel on January 31, Los Angeles Police said.
Detectives are now investigating the 21-year-old Canadian’s suspicious death, police Sgt. Rudy Lopez said.It was not clear whether the water presented any health risks. Results on tests on the water done Wednesday by the Los Angeles Public Health Department were expected later in the day.
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William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:32:21pm |
re: #344 Dark_Falcon
Understand, though, that I never like radicals. They scare me, and can threaten to upset the predictability and routine I use to keep myself relatively calm and functional.
DF, I almost made a wise crack here like others have done and you, probably, expect. But my son approaches the world from a similar point of view; this isn’t very political for you, deep down, is it? It isn’t for him, that’s for certain.
Take care, friend.
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TedStriker Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:32:56pm |
re: #355 Hippocracy (rule by horses)
Oh, gross.
Ewwwww.
As for how the woman wound up there, I hope they find out.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:34:13pm |
re: #354 TedStriker
No “trouble” with D_F here, aside from trying to wrap my head around how someone as apparently intelligent as him can be so fearful of others and change.
No one really likes wholesale change, especially especially when it comes to our society, but he comes across as being terrified and damn near paralyzed by the mere thought of it.
Sir, I am someone whose emotions can run quite hot and sometimes I only stay with decent bounds with difficulty. Given the efforts I have to put forward to keep the worst parts of me under firm control, I dislike things that threaten to disrupt my equilibrium.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:35:15pm |
re: #356 William Barnett-Lewis
DF, I almost made a wise crack here like others have done and you, probably, expect. But my son approaches the world from a similar point of view; this isn’t very political for you, deep down, is it? It isn’t for him, that’s for certain.
Take care, friend.
No, that feeling of mine really isn’t political. And thank you.
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freetoken Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:35:29pm |
Georgy Sviridov - he was almost a radical:
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HappyWarrior Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:40:29pm |
I think this is more of a philosophical than political difference. I disagree with DF’s view. Nothing personal. I myself personally do like having radicals in this world because they do for better or worse make us think. Speaking from academic experience, the best professors I had weren’t ones who merely echoed what I already thought but ones that made me question what I thought. It’s a funny thing. We live in a world concieved by radicals but brought into place by pragmatists. The people who inspired the Founders of this country were radicals. I mean look at it. Guys like Locke and others were talking about representative democracy in a time where not only was there a leader who inherited his role through birthright but justified his rule often through the allmighty. At the same time, our early leaders were pragmatic too. It sounds paradoxical but the best leaders are frankly pragmatic radicals. Ones who have foresight but also are willing to compromise. I guess ultimately it’s the radicals who build the world and it’s the pragmatists who maintain it.
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freetoken Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:46:28pm |
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freetoken Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:52:14pm |
One thing I don’t like about Soundcloud is how they are following Google in redesigning their site into something that seems friendlier, less imposing to someone afraid of computers, but makes it more difficult to search for what one exactly wants.
I hate this trend of websites/services trying to “think” for you - it’s just a way of conserving their own computational requirements but they are selling it as something new and improved and grand.
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Lidane Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:54:05pm |
The lead detective in the Pistorius murder case faces attempted murder charges for a 2009 incident, police say nbcnews.to/Ztbiz6— NBC News (@NBCNews) February 21, 2013
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William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:56:38pm |
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:59:12pm |
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 11:06:14pm |
Maddow chronicles self-destruction of the headless Republican Party
“What is going on with the Republican Party right now?” she wondered. “I mean, who is in charge? Who is going to or who is trying to right this ship? This has been going on for a long time now, and the thing I think is newsworthy right now is that it seems to be getting worse and not better over time.”
“It is not uncommon for the losing party to go through a round of soul searching after a bad election cycle,” Maddow added. “Nobody expected the Republicans to spring back to their feet immediately after losing the White House by 3 million votes, after losing the House by 1 million votes, after losing two addition seats in the Senate, nobody expected them to be on fire by now, but right now it is less that they are on fire than they are engulfed in flames and they are the ones who have lit them. How long does this go on for?”
Maddow observed that the in-fighting within the Republican Party did not appear to being ebbing, and might actually be getting worse.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 11:13:51pm |
Jon Stewart destroys Sen. John McCain over hypocritical Benghazi outrage
When NBC host David Gregory asked McCain on Sunday why Republicans needed even more information, McCain responded by questioning whether the journalist cared about Americans dying.
“No, McCain, you don’t get to pull the four dead Americans shit,” Stewart said. “You lost that privilege over a period of, oh, I don’t know, the Iraq war — which I believe, American casaulty-wise, was literally Benghazi times 1000. Far from holding up all Senate business until that fiasco was resolved, I think you had a slightly different perspective.”
McCain had warned against “wasting time” with investigations of the Iraq war, which was started because President George W. Bush claimed the country was building weapons of mass destruction. McCain acknowledged the war was based on a massive intelligence failure and was “terribly mismanaged,” yet didn’t call for any investigations like he has regarding Benghazi.
“I get it, mistakes happen, things go bad, we are where we are,” Stewart mockingly remarked. “The only thing that would make this worse would be if not only was McCain being hypocritical about his level of outrage, but if the outrage fueling the Hagel nomination filibuster was somehow also streaked with junior high school level pettiness.”
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Lidane Wed, Feb 20, 2013 11:26:03pm |
Listen, I never said I was perfect. I only said My mistakes were your fault.— God (@TheTweetOfGod) February 21, 2013
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 11:31:53pm |
I see Bryan is back on his “pop out as many kids as you can” schtick
The real problem not too many people but too few. Gen. 1:28 still the solution. on.wsj.com/Y8QKsB— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) February 21, 2013
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Wed, Feb 20, 2013 11:34:54pm |
Apparently, America is doomed because not enough white people are having kids to replace the WASPs.
Good.
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:18:13am |
re: #373 Kragar (Antichrist )
I see Bryan is back on his “pop out as many kids as you can” schtick
I think the proper title of the book should be “The Children of White Men”
Germany had a solution like that for some time: a woman was not allowed an abortion unless she could get a doctor or a social worker to write an opinion that there were medical (physical or mental) or social (financial or personal) grounds that spoke against it.
Inability to financially support the child was a “social indicator” for allowing an abortion.
In other words, if the father is a German with an education and a job, no chance. But if the father is an unemployed Turkish immigrant, then go right ahead!
But most of all, the decision was not left to the woman alone, she had to get a (predominantly male) doctor or social worker to sign off on her decision.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:32:46am |
re: #375 Sol Berdinowitz
My personal favorite ridiculous argument is “we’d have a cure for cancer” or “We would have invented cold fusion” if it weren’t for abortion.
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:42:12am |
re: #376 Kragar (Antichrist )
I personal favorite ridiculous argument is “we’d have a cure for cancer” or “We would have invented cold fusion” if it weren’t for abortion.
A gun is a magic totem that can ward off evil just by having it on your person on on your nightstand. The role of training, skill and nerves is neglected
And every child is a potential Einstein/Fleming, just for being born. The role of education, nutrition and social environment is neglected.
And every tax cut leads to more jobs just because “job creators” have more money to dispose of. The role of globalization, labor markets and offshore financial products is ignored.
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OtterQueen Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:50:10am |
re: #376 Kragar (Antichrist )
My personal favorite ridiculous argument is “we’d have a cure for cancer” or “We would have invented cold fusion” if it weren’t for abortion.
Okay, that’s a new one for me. I’ve never heard this argument, how does it go?
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Feb 21, 2013 1:05:12am |
The quote comes directly from
Abortion: A Key Economic Factor
by Mychal Massie
“In fact, abortion may play a key factor in fixing our nation’s current economic crisis. Consumer spending is the dominant facet of our economy. With the economy needing a boost and job creation jolted, a baby is a true stimulus plan.
Forget TARP and the Keynesian spending schemes promoted by the Obama Administration. A baby necessitates diapers, toys, food, books, clothing and more. Meeting those needs creates jobs in the manufacturing and service sectors. Children also create jobs in the medical and educational sectors.
When they grow up, babies supplement the labor force - promoting the “circle of life.” At a time when our nation relies on an influx of legal and illegal immigrants, it’s illogical to promote population control.”
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, Feb 21, 2013 1:05:51am |
re: #378 OtterQueen
Okay, that’s a new one for me. I’ve never heard this argument, how does it go?
I’ve heard it more than a few times, mostly from Evangelicals. They’ll start talking about a problem, lets say cancer, and then they say “We could have had a cure 30 years ago, except the baby who would have grown up to discover it was aborted.”
A recession? “A generation of workers were lost because of abortion.”
Energy crisis? “The inventor of the magical pixie engine was lost to us because of…” Take a wild guess.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, Feb 21, 2013 1:06:54am |
re: #379 Sol Berdinowitz
The quote comes directly from
Abortion: A Key Economic Factor
by Mychal Massie“In fact, abortion may play a key factor in fixing our nation’s current economic crisis. Consumer spending is the dominant facet of our economy. With the economy needing a boost and job creation jolted, a baby is a true stimulus plan.
Forget TARP and the Keynesian spending schemes promoted by the Obama Administration. A baby necessitates diapers, toys, food, books, clothing and more. Meeting those needs creates jobs in the manufacturing and service sectors. Children also create jobs in the medical and educational sectors.
When they grow up, babies supplement the labor force - promoting the “circle of life.” At a time when our nation relies on an influx of legal and illegal immigrants, it’s illogical to promote population control.”
Um, it necessitates the needs, yes, but it does nothing to actually ensure the parents can meet those needs.
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Feb 21, 2013 1:10:22am |
re: #381 Kragar (Antichrist )
Um, it necessitates the needs, yes, but it does nothing to actually ensure the parents can meet those needs.
It makes sure that those sluts are punished for their sins by being forced to bear that child to term and then raise it on a minimum-wage job.
And that is their chief concern, all the arguments they advance (cellular personhood, abortion is surgery because the baby is an “organ”, etc.) are just window-dressing to find ways around Roe v. Wade until they can get it overturned.
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OtterQueen Thu, Feb 21, 2013 1:12:22am |
re: #380 Kragar (Antichrist )
Holy crap. So no potential Hitlers, Benedict Arnolds, or Ponzis? Because we all know that the children born to women who don’t want, can’t afford, or simply cannot take care of a kid are the ones most likely to take humanity a quantum leap forward. I’m guessing these are the same people who argue that children born to a single mother are at a disadvantage and have no chance in life.
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OtterQueen Thu, Feb 21, 2013 1:13:26am |
Since when am I obligated to bear children for the sake of our economy?
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Feb 21, 2013 1:14:16am |
re: #384 OtterQueen
Since when am I obligated to bear children for the sake of our economy?
Your womb belongs to the state!!!
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, Feb 21, 2013 1:14:34am |
re: #384 OtterQueen
Since when am I obligated to bear children for the sake of our economy?
Why do you hate America?
/
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OtterQueen Thu, Feb 21, 2013 1:15:14am |
The state can have it, I’m pretty much done with it. And good luck to ‘em.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, Feb 21, 2013 1:20:12am |
re: #383 OtterQueen
Holy crap. So no potential Hitlers, Benedict Arnolds, or Ponzis? Because we all know that the children born to women who don’t want, can’t afford, or simply cannot take care of a kid are the ones most likely to take humanity a quantum leap forward. I’m guessing these are the same people who argue that children born to a single mother are at a disadvantage and have no chance in life.
We need to work out the Jesus to Hitler ratio apparently.
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OtterQueen Thu, Feb 21, 2013 1:24:41am |
re: #388 Kragar (Antichrist )
I wonder if anyone has ever run the numbers? If they’re favorable, the anti-choicers might have some leverage. “If you don’t bring this child to term, there is an 8-to-1 chance that this country will fall to the communists!”
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 4:19:25am |
re: #355 Hippocracy (rule by horses)
Oh, gross.
That sounds like the opening scene of a Bones episode.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 4:20:41am |
re: #378 OtterQueen
Okay, that’s a new one for me. I’ve never heard this argument, how does it go?
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Sionainn Thu, Feb 21, 2013 4:43:15am |
re: #392 Vicious Babushka
Am I the only one here this morning?
Sort of. I’m just popping in before starting my typing this morning.
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dragonath Thu, Feb 21, 2013 4:46:52am |
Gravity had to be weaker to make dinosaurs nimble— Jose Canseco (@JoseCanseco) February 19, 2013
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dragonath Thu, Feb 21, 2013 4:50:04am |
If you’re wondering what the hell that means, look here:
Why Was Jose Canseco Fighting With Bill Nye The Science Guy Over Gravity?
also too
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Thu, Feb 21, 2013 4:54:11am |
re: #395 dragonath
If you’re wondering what the hell that means, look here:
Why Was Jose Canseco Fighting With Bill Nye The Science Guy Over Gravity?
Cocaine.
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Flounder Thu, Feb 21, 2013 5:02:22am |
How am I supposed to get any work done with all these entertaining posts?!
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dragonath Thu, Feb 21, 2013 5:07:19am |
Debate co-chair: Picking Candy Crowley to moderate was a “mistake”
“We made one mistake this time: Her name is Candy,” Frank Fahrenkopf, a co-chair of the Commission on Presidential Debates, said bluntly at an event in Las Vegas, political reporter Jon Ralston reported Tuesday .
Nevada co-chairman of President Richard Nixon’s reelection campaign
Chairman of the Republican National Committee 1983-89
Founded the International Republican Institute
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 5:09:21am |
re: #398 dragonath
Debate co-chair: Picking Candy Crowley to moderate was a “mistake”
Nevada co-chairman of President Richard Nixon’s reelection campaign
Chairman of the Republican National Committee 1983-89
Founded the International Republican Institute
I went to high school with a girl named Candy. I remember all the teachers would only call her “Candace” because “Candy” is just a nickname. They called other kids by their nicknames but not Candace.
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dragonath Thu, Feb 21, 2013 5:11:46am |
When I think of “Candy”, I hear that hideous Four Seasons song.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 5:11:56am |
TGDN is still frothing and spewing that having an AR-15 at all times is the only way to prevent rape. They don’t explain how to address a situation where the rapist is somebody the victim knows and trusts well enough to not shoot a hole in him.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 5:13:09am |
re: #400 dragonath
When I think of “Candy”, I hear that hideous Four Seasons song.
I thought that song was “Sherry”
But, they had a lot of hideous songs.
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Flounder Thu, Feb 21, 2013 5:13:51am |
My wife’s Gym coach in High School was Candy B. Sweet. She wasn’t too sweet.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 5:15:04am |
I read Bobibutu’s featured article on the junk food industry, absolutely fascinating.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 5:27:34am |
DERP DERP
Catastrophic global warming alert: 30 million in 18 states in path of winter storm. cnn.com/2013/02/20/us/…— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) February 21, 2013
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Lidane Thu, Feb 21, 2013 5:33:52am |
Morning all! The derp is starting early today.
ha. WSJ’s Henninger: if Zero Dark Thirty doesn’t win Oscar, Hollywood hates America…..and 9/11 victims too!!; on.wsj.com/Ydeees— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) February 21, 2013
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Lidane Thu, Feb 21, 2013 5:35:44am |
It’s the Messaging, Not the Message, part infinity:
Bloomberg poll: 35% of Americans view GOP favorably: bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-2…— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) February 21, 2013
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Feb 21, 2013 5:36:46am |
re: #398 dragonath
Debate co-chair: Picking Candy Crowley to moderate was a “mistake”
Nevada co-chairman of President Richard Nixon’s reelection campaign
Chairman of the Republican National Committee 1983-89
Founded the International Republican Institute
Nothing wrong with the candidate blatantly lying in the debate - the problem was the moderator calling him on it.
Cripes.
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Lidane Thu, Feb 21, 2013 5:38:09am |
re: #408 Feline Fearless Leader
Nothing wrong with the candidate blatantly lying in the debate - the problem was the moderator calling him on it.
Cripes.
And he would’ve gotten away with it if it hadn’t been for you meddling libtard MSM stooges!
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geoffm33 Thu, Feb 21, 2013 5:44:41am |
Good morning all!
Just realized this is on Amazon Instant Video. Watching tonight….
”You don’t understand. I coulda had class. I coulda been a contender. I coulda been somebody, instead of a bum, which is what I am, let’s face it. It was you, Charley.”
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Lidane Thu, Feb 21, 2013 5:48:57am |
ZOMG RINO:
“I cannot, in good conscience, deny the uninsured access to care.” @flgovscott nukes @gop’s argument vs. Obamacare: on.msnbc.com/15wP0Ni— Jamil Smith (@JamilSmith) February 21, 2013
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lawhawk Thu, Feb 21, 2013 5:57:10am |
re: #411 Lidane
The Florida hospitals got to him. They warned him that they would get whacked by indigent care costs and that the PPACA would provide more reimbursement and improve cost structures.
Of course, he knew this all along even as he opposed the Obamacare proposals from day 1 (and that’s after the GOP proposed individual mandate 20 years ago and touted it as a paragon of individual responsibility only to turn around and claim it unconstitutional when Obama picked it up as a central element of his health care reform package). It was hypocrisy from the get-go, and now that the rubber’s meeting the road, the states are realizing that this is the way to go and if they want to amend provisions, they’ve got to do it from within - litigating it out of existence isn’t going to happen.
To that end, Scott’s been negotiating with HHS to tailor the program to the state’s benefit (which was always part of the PPACA provisions - only if the state refused would the feds come in and impose the plan). With Florida now adopting the PPACA provisions for exchanges, watch as other GOP-led states fall into line.
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Mattand Thu, Feb 21, 2013 6:00:15am |
re: #413 lawhawk
The Florida hospitals got to him. They warned him that they would get whacked by indigent care costs and that the PPACA would provide more reimbursement and improve cost structures.
Of course, he knew this all along even as he opposed the Obamacare proposals from day 1 (and that’s after the GOP proposed individual mandate 20 years ago and touted it as a paragon of individual responsibility only to turn around and claim it unconstitutional when Obama picked it up as a central element of his health care reform package). It was hypocrisy from the get-go, and now that the rubber’s meeting the road, the states are realizing that this is the way to go and if they want to amend provisions, they’ve got to do it from within - litigating it out of existence isn’t going to happen.
To that end, Scott’s been negotiating with HHS to tailor the program to the state’s benefit (which was always part of the PPACA provisions - only if the state refused would the feds come in and impose the plan). With Florida now adopting the PPACA provisions for exchanges, watch as other GOP-led states fall into line.
What’s your take on our Governor Christie’s brave stance against people being healthy?
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Feb 21, 2013 6:02:01am |
re: #414 Mattand
What’s your take on our Governor Christie’s brave stance against people being healthy?
If he didn’t make a stand for the Big Gulp Bloomberg and the rest of New York City would be all over him.
;)
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 6:02:19am |
ZOMG PAMZ has found a new JEWicidal JINO!1!1
I never heard of this guy Bruce Warshal so I Googled him and couldn’t find anything that he had even written. All I could find was that he helps drug addicts and alcoholics get their lives back on track.
Also 6 years ago he allegedly wrote something that was critical of Chabad but (shrugs) so what? And I could not even find it. His Google profile is scrubbed clean.
His name also came up on some whackjob sites (both wingnut & moonbat) but I did not go there.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Feb 21, 2013 6:10:06am |
Good morning Lizards.
Looking like a “three cups of coffee in the AM” day. Full plate of stuff to work on, including performance review meeting with my boss. (Yay…)
Time to go get another cup once this conference call ends. ;)
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Flounder Thu, Feb 21, 2013 6:12:58am |
Massive sun spot forming [Link: www.weather.com…]
Head for the hills!
(kewl pics too)
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Political Atheist Thu, Feb 21, 2013 6:17:05am |
re: #406 Lidane
Heh, Seen Argo?
Tell Henninger
“Argo f*&k yourself”
(Very funny line from the movie)
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Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 21, 2013 6:41:46am |
Iran is keeping busy
Nigeria says arrests Iran-linked cell targeting U.S., Israel
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 21, 2013 6:43:07am |
re: #421 Killgore Trout
Iran is keeping busy
Nigeria says arrests Iran-linked cell targeting U.S., Israel
Ya know Iran really needs to unclench their fist.
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Lidane Thu, Feb 21, 2013 6:43:52am |
Sen. Ted Cruz says Hagel nomination has “been publicly celebrated” by Iran government. Pants on Fire! bit.ly/YDUHUh— PolitiFact (@politifact) February 21, 2013
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lawhawk Thu, Feb 21, 2013 6:44:16am |
re: #414 Mattand
Not exactly true - FoxNews reported earlier this week that Gov. Christie was “committed to complying with ObamaCare, but “only in a manner that is the most effective and efficient for the residents of New Jersey, and the businesses that will carry the costs of this new program”.”
Christie, who previously vetoed legislation establishing a state-run health insurance exchange, said in a statement that the federal government is best equipped to operate the exchange.”
States have the option of either establishing their own exchange and securing 100% reimbursement from the feds for 3 years before dropping to 90% reimbursement thereafter, or the feds establish it with no input from the state as they see fit.
Where NJ stands as of December 2012. This is the background on the health exchange portion of the PPACA.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 21, 2013 6:46:58am |
George Galloway Storms Out On Israeli Student During Oxford University Debate (VIDEO)
The Respect MP was speaking at an event organised by Christ Church college in favour of the motion “Israel should withdraw immediately from the West Bank”. Less than three minutes into his opponent Eylon Aslan-Levy’s speech, Galloway interrupted, asking “You said we. Are you an Israeli?”
Third year student Aslan-Levy answered “I am, yes.” Galloway promptly stood up and replied: “I don’t debate with Israelis, I’ve been misled, sorry.”
Galloway’s exit, which was met with audible gasps from the audience, was captured on film by the Oxford University paper, Cherwell. As the Bradford West representative left the room, a member of the audience can be heard shouting “racism”, to which the MP replied: “I don’t recognise Israel and I don’t debate with Israelis.”
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 6:47:50am |
re: #425 Killgore Trout
George Galloway Storms Out On Israeli Student During Oxford University Debate (VIDEO)
SSDD
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Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 21, 2013 6:50:10am |
re: #426 Vicious Babushka
SSDD
I think he’s just grumpy since the EU pulled the plug on his show on Iranian state TV.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Feb 21, 2013 6:50:39am |
re: #425 Killgore Trout
George Galloway Storms Out On Israeli Student During Oxford University Debate (VIDEO)
I think that sort of behavior would generally be construed as losing the debate.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 21, 2013 6:51:57am |
re: #425 Killgore Trout
George Galloway Storms Out On Israeli Student During Oxford University Debate (VIDEO)
What a douche.
Joseph W at Harry’s Place adds on:
What I said to George Galloway when I met him
You’ll have seen this video of George Galloway storming out of a debate, when he realised he was interacting with an Israeli:
I first saw him speak at the University of Leeds, around about May 2007.
He was cheering for Hezbollah, praising the “resistance”, and saying his usual things.
Most people there were his supporters, and I thought that heckling would just get me noticed and kicked out of the event. I went up to Galloway after the talk, and I could see him chatting in a friendly way to people appreciative of his message.
I went up to him, shook his hand, and made sure he was looking at me. With my hand still lightly in his, I said to him:
“There are Israelis dying too, Mr Galloway”
Heh.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 21, 2013 6:56:34am |
re: #429 NJDhockeyfan
What a douche.
Joseph W at Harry’s Place adds on:
Heh.
I keep forgetting to check in with Harry’s Place. It’s a good blog and deserves more attention that it gets.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 21, 2013 7:01:49am |
re: #430 Killgore Trout
Heh.
I keep forgetting to check in with Harry’s Place. It’s a good blog and deserves more attention that it gets.
Ugh. Lots of hate in the comments from Galloway supporters at HuffPo. Thankfully there are more commentators blasting Galloway than supporting him.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 7:05:08am |
TGDN isn’t even fun to read anymore for teh lulz. Just a bunch of automated bots Tweeting lame wingnut talking points.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 21, 2013 7:09:02am |
“I refused this evening at Oxford University to debate with an Israeli, a supporter of the apartheid state of Israel. The reason is simple: no recognition, no normalisation. Just boycott, divestment and sanctions, until the apartheid state is defeated. I never debate with Israelis nor speak to their media. If they want to speak about Palestine – the address is the PLO.”
Douche.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 21, 2013 7:14:37am |
The award for Worst Name for a Terrorist Group goes to….
Nigerian Forces Surround Kidnappers of French Tourists
Jamaatu Ansarul Muslimina Fi Biladissudan, or “Vanguards for the Protection of Muslims in the Land of the Blacks,” said it took the hostages as a response to “the transgressions and atrocities done to the religion of Allah” by European nations in countries including Mali and Afghanistan.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 21, 2013 7:25:01am |
Troubling news coming out of Egypt…
‘Hundreds of children’ tortured in Egypt
Lawyers and activists claim that large numbers of children, some as young as nine, have been illegally imprisoned during protests which followed the second anniversary of the 2011 uprising.
Some of those arrested have been subject to torture including beatings, electrocution and being forced to strip naked before being drenched in cold water, according to a report in the Independent newspaper.
Some of the children were forced to drink a foul “soup” consisting of salt dissolved in water, said Mahmoud Bilal, a lawyer who works on cases involving detained minors.
One lawyer estimated up to 400 children had been detained by police during outbreaks of violence.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Thu, Feb 21, 2013 7:37:04am |
Anyone for tea?
[Link: www.justaskshirley.com…]
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Bulworth Thu, Feb 21, 2013 7:45:14am |
re: #401 Vicious Babushka
What if the AR-15 is in another room of the house from the woman being raped or is at home while the woman is out of the house? It doesn’t sound like some of these newly and briefly self-identified women protectors have thought this through very much.
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dragonath Thu, Feb 21, 2013 7:46:11am |
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 7:47:34am |
re: #437 Bulworth
What if the AR-15 is in another room of the house from the woman being raped or is at home while the woman is out of the house? It doesn’t sound like some of these newly and briefly self-identified women protectors have thought this through very much.
You can’t even have a conversation with them any more because they are not even real people behind those Twitter accounts—just a bunch of automated bots endlessly retweeting the same lame graphics and talking points.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 7:48:51am |
It was fun for a while to actually engage some of these wingnuts in a conversation before they said UR A TROLL & U R SO BLOCKED.
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dragonath Thu, Feb 21, 2013 7:49:39am |
re: #436 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut
Anyone for tea?
[Link: www.justaskshirley.com…]
Wow, good thing that isn’t a bar.
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Lidane Thu, Feb 21, 2013 7:51:10am |
Speaking of TGDN, the derp is flowing today because of this:
Tim Tebow cancels appearance at church of controversial pastor
The New York Jets backup was scheduled to deliver two sermons on April 28 at the new, $130 million building at First Baptist Dallas Church. The church boasts more than 11,000 followers.
On Thursday, he tweeted that he would no longer honor the commitment. He didn’t specifically say why he was canceling, but alluded to the controversy surrounding his appearance:
“While I was looking forward to sharing a message of hope and Christ’s unconditional love with the faithful members of the historic First Baptist Church of Dallas in April, due to new information that has been brought to my attention, I have decided to cancel my upcoming appearance. I will continue to use the platform God has blessed me with to bring Faith, Hope and Love to all those needing a brighter day. Thank you for all of your love and support. God Bless!”
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Bulworth Thu, Feb 21, 2013 7:54:35am |
the new, $130 million building at First Baptist Dallas Church. The church boasts more than 11,000 followers.
Persecuted Christianists in Amercia. //
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 7:54:52am |
The DERP that keeps on DERPIN’
Orly Taitz has nearly 38,000 signatures on petition for Congress to immediately investigate Obama’s use of forged and stolen IDs #tgdn— Greg Anderson (@sparkygreg) February 21, 2013
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Lidane Thu, Feb 21, 2013 7:55:27am |
In other news, there are nearly 38,000 total fucking morons on Orly Taitz’s mailing list.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 7:55:55am |
FEEL THE CHRISTIAN LOVE
No shame in saying ‘NO’ to the poor until they realize that successful people owe them nothing. They are losers - not victims #p2 #tcot— GenuineAmerican (@CountryBack1776) February 21, 2013
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Lidane Thu, Feb 21, 2013 7:56:24am |
If the latest Pew poll tells us anything, it’s that Americans just want the GOP to knock it off. Yep. All of it. d.pr/lr76— Jamelle Bouie (@jbouie) February 21, 2013
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 7:57:35am |
BTW I am not longer reading the TGDN hashtag, these Tweets are from the DERP list.
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dragonath Thu, Feb 21, 2013 7:58:09am |
re: #444 Bulworth
Persecuted Christianists in Amercia. //
I wouldn’t mind looking at at their ledger.
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Lidane Thu, Feb 21, 2013 7:59:05am |
8 New Punctuation Marks We Desperately Need via @dawnl collegehumor.com/article/687207…— Sonny Johns (@SonnyJohns) February 21, 2013
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kirkspencer Thu, Feb 21, 2013 7:59:57am |
re: #447 Vicious Babushka
FEEL THE CHRISTIAN LOVE
Matthew 25: 31-46. Recently, posting that has gotten complaints that I am using the Bible to bully people. I find the irony delicious.
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makeitstop Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:00:25am |
re: #445 Vicious Babushka
Orly Taitz has nearly 38,000 signatures on petition for Congress to immediately investigate Obama’s use of forged and stolen IDs
So, who gets the ball here? Issa? Cruz? You know somebody’s gonna take her up on it.
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Bulworth Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:00:26am |
re: #447 Vicious Babushka
FEEL THE CHRISTIAN LOVE
No shame in saying ‘NO’ to the poor until they realize that successful people owe them nothing. They are losers - not victims #p2 #tcot
— GenuineAmerican (@CountryBack1776) February 21, 2013
Does GenuineAmerican have proof he or she is a genuine murican? What does it take to be a genuine Amercian anyway?
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:00:35am |
re: #446 Lidane
In other news, there are nearly 38,000 total fucking morons on Orly Taitz’s mailing list.
How many have names like Heywood Jabloeme, Seymour Butz, Adam Baum, Herbie Hind?
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Lidane Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:02:15am |
re: #455 Vicious Babushka
How many have names like Heywood Jabloeme, Seymour Butz, Adam Baum, Herbie Hind?
37,000 of them. The rest are the last few birther dead-enders who think Taitz is actually credible.
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Bulworth Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:02:57am |
re: #452 kirkspencer
Matthew 25: 31-46. Recently, posting that has gotten complaints that I am using the Bible to bully people. I find the irony delicious.
I bet you’re quoting from the librul Bible. In ConservaBible that passage has been rewritten so that Republican Jesus says to shoot the poors with AR-15’s.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:03:01am |
re: #452 kirkspencer
Matthew 25: 31-46. Recently, posting that has gotten complaints that I am using the Bible to bully people. I find the irony delicious.
I’m not real familiar with the NT, is that the one about the camel and the needle’s eye?
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Lidane Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:03:02am |
You actually have to try really hard to sound this stupid. news.investors.com/politics-andre…— Simon Maloy (@SimonMaloy) February 21, 2013
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kirkspencer Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:04:41am |
re: #458 Vicious Babushka
I’m not real familiar with the NT, is that the one about the camel and the needle’s eye?
No, that’s the sheep and goats. As you have done/not done for the least, so you have done/not done for me.
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Bulworth Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:04:46am |
re: #459 Lidane
You actually have to try really hard to sound this stupid. news.investors.com/politics-andre…
— Simon Maloy (@SimonMaloy) February 21, 2013
Is this a newspaper product that people pay money for?
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Lidane Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:07:23am |
re: #460 kirkspencer
No, that’s the sheep and goats. As you have done/not done for the least, so you have done/not done for me.
Sheep go to Heaven, goats go to Hell. And now I have that song in my head.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:07:31am |
re: #442 Lidane
Speaking of TGDN, the derp is flowing today because of this:
Tim Tebow cancels appearance at church of controversial pastor
Tebow bails on Jeffress. This will damage Tebow’s credibility in evangelical world. Hasn’t hurt Jeffress, only himself.— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) February 21, 2013
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:08:02am |
re: #460 kirkspencer
No, that’s the sheep and goats. As you have done/not done for the least, so you have done/not done for me.
@countryback1776 Is that a Bible in ur avi or Atlas Shrugged? Matt. 19:24. #tgdn #UniteBlue #minimumwage— Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) February 21, 2013
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Bulworth Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:08:13am |
re: #459 Lidane
Does Ben Shapiro also write for the IBD? That article reflects his handiwork.
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dragonath Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:09:06am |
re: #452 kirkspencer
Matthew 25: 31-46. Recently, posting that has gotten complaints that I am using the Bible to bully people. I find the irony delicious.
In fact, Matthew 6 describes Tebow and the christianists just about perfectly. The pertinent parts:
1 Be careful not to do your ‘acts of righteousness’ before men, to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.
2 So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full.
3 But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing
5 And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full.
7-8 …for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.
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makeitstop Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:12:22am |
re: #459 Lidane
You actually have to try really hard to sound this stupid.
He is the author of 10 nonfiction books and father of four.
A proud tradition he seems to be carrying on in his opinion column.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:12:23am |
No, not belly dancing!
The Daily News of Egypt reported that the national administrative court ruled last week that the popular Al-Tet “belly dancing channel” be taken off the air for broadcasting without a license. Who knew that Egypt had a belly dancing channel? (Does Comcast know about this?) It is evidently quite popular but apparently offensive to some of the rising Islamist forces in Egypt.
It is not clear how much the Muslim Brotherhood’s party had to do with the belly ban, but what is clear is that no one in Egypt is having much fun these days.
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Lidane Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:12:50am |
*headdesk*
Ted Nugent claims Obama and Democrats have “destroyed,” “raped and plundered” the black community bit.ly/ZuhTsQ— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) February 21, 2013
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Lidane Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:14:32am |
re: #468 makeitstop
Speaking of questionable writing:
“Killing Jesus”: After his fact-challenged histories of Lincoln & JFK’s deaths, Bill O’Reilly takes on Christ slnm.us/zulzzdx— Salon.com (@Salon) February 21, 2013
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makeitstop Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:16:13am |
re: #470 Lidane
Ted Nugent claims Obama and Democrats have “destroyed,” “raped and plundered” the black community
And Ted would know, being a black man and all…
///
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Lidane Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:17:44am |
re: #472 makeitstop
And Ted would know, being a black man and all…
///
He was born a poor, black child…
Oh wait. Nope. He’s just a jerk. =P
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dragonath Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:18:16am |
Ted Nugent needs to stick his wang dang in a Cuisinart
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Ghost of Tom Joad Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:19:57am |
re: #475 dragonath
Ted Nugent needs to stick his wang dang in a Cuisinart
How in the hell did he get famous in the first place. His…’music’ is terrible. When all this gun shit started I youtubed a bunch of his stuff just to figure out why….is it a redneck thing?
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Bulworth Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:20:43am |
re: #470 Lidane
Does the Nuge have his own Faux Noise show yet? Maybe he can be their new political consultant pundit.
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makeitstop Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:22:58am |
re: #476 Ghost of Tom Joad
How in the hell did he get famous in the first place. His…’music’ is terrible. When all this gun shit started I youtubed a bunch of his stuff just to figure out why….is it a redneck thing?
He had some Hippie-era cred from being in the Amboy Dukes. I actually liked ‘Journey To The Center Of The Mind,’ but everything past that pretty much sucked.
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Lidane Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:25:06am |
Oh great. One of my idiot wingnut relatives is doing the LULZ SNOW TOTEZ PROVES GLOBAL WARMING IS A MYTH dance.
I’d try and explain the science to him, but he’s hopeless. He was dumb enough to buy into the Herbalife scam, so he’s never been the brightest bulb in the box.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:25:16am |
re: #478 makeitstop
He had some Hippie-era cred from being in the Amboy Dukes. I actually liked ‘Journey To The Center Of The Mind,’ but everything past that pretty much sucked.
Stranglehold is also a good one.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:25:51am |
PAM SHRIEKING ABOUT LIBRUL ATTACKZ ON JUICE
Subversive Threat to Freedom SPLC Suing Jewish Group: The Southern Poverty Law Center is suing a Jewish group,… bit.ly/VORJ3o— Pamela Geller (@Atlasshrugs) February 21, 2013
Oh wait, it’s one of these “Pray Away The Ghey” fake “therapy” bully gangs.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:27:44am |
re: #438 dragonath
A map of all known impact craters on Earth:
Do you feel lucky punk? Huh, do you?
That one in the northeast US is Chesapeake Bay. :)
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dragonath Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:29:06am |
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Bulworth Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:30:01am |
re: #483 dragonath
Can someone please put a stop to this? These books of his are killing Amercia.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:30:24am |
Shooting in Las Vegas this morning…
Las Vegas Strip Shooting, Crash Leaves 3 Dead
LAS VEGAS - Three people are dead and at least three more injured from a shooting and multi-car crash on Las Vegas Boulevard near Flamingo Road.
Metro Police say the shooting ensued on the Strip in front of Bally’s Hotel and Casino early Thursday morning which set off a multi-car accident.
Metro Sgt. John Sheahan said police are looking for a black Range Rover with tinted windows and dark rims. Sheahan said the people in the Range Rover were shooting at people in a Maserati, the driver of the Maserati was hit by gunfire and killed. The Maserati crashed into a taxi which caused it to burst into flames and explode killing the driver and passenger.
“There was a loud bang and I hear two other booms. I looked out my window at Caesars Palace … and could see a fireball,” said witness John Lamb.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:30:25am |
re: #483 dragonath
Wasn’t Jesus’ entire whole purpose on earth to be killed? I mean if he wasn’t killed there would be no salvation, right?
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Bulworth Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:30:30am |
re: #483 dragonath
At long last Mr. O’Reilly, have you no shame?
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makeitstop Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:31:07am |
re: #484 Bulworth
Can someone please put a stop to this? These books of his are killing Amercia.
That’s the next one.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:33:46am |
LOL!
Hacking group Anonymous latest victim of Twitter hack
Hacker collective Anonymous has suffered an embarrassing breach, as one of its popular Twitter feeds is taken over by rival hacktivists.
Little-known group Rustle League said it had hacked the @Anon_Central account which has 160,000 followers.
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Ghost of Tom Joad Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:34:24am |
re: #488 makeitstop
That’s the next one.
And I’m sure the theme will all be the same. Ebil Libruls are destroying everything that was ever good and conservative in this world, like (insert random thing like Jesus/America/straight sex/carrying assault weapons)
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Lidane Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:34:58am |
Obama Derangement Syndrome continues: GOP Senators write to President, urging him to drop GOP war hero Hagel. livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/gop-sena… #tcot— Gabe Ortíz (@TUSK81) February 21, 2013
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dragonath Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:35:16am |
re: #486 Vicious Babushka
That’s the biggest problem with Christianity, to me. You’ve got entire sects that are like “the death of Jesus was the best thing EVAR cause we’re absolved dude”.
It’s kind of missing the point…
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Ghost of Tom Joad Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:36:40am |
re: #491 Lidane
Obama Derangement Syndrome continues: GOP Senators write to President, urging him to drop GOP war hero Hagel.
Translation: We’ve run out of bullshit to throw at the wall, therefore we need your help. Please pick a new candidate so we can find more shit to fling. Thanks homie.
Sincerely,
The Monkeys.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:37:41am |
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:38:04am |
re: #493 Ghost of Tom Joad
Translation: We’ve run out of bullshit to throw at the wall, therefore we need your help. Please pick a new candidate so we can find more shit to fling. Thanks homie.
Sincerely,
The Monkeys.
Well, now you know why they didn’t evolve from monkeys. They are still monkeys since they don’t believe in evolution.
//
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Lidane Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:38:52am |
State of emergency declared in #Missouri because of winter storm. on.cnn.com/YI2Eqp— CNN Breaking News (@cnnbrk) February 21, 2013
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:40:19am |
re: #495 Feline Fearless Leader
Well, now you know why they didn’t evolve from monkeys. They are still monkeys since they don’t believe in evolution.
//
Monkeys evolved from wingnuts.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:40:45am |
re: #496 Lidane
Congress demands cuts in weather service and forecasting funding in order to pay for disaster relief in Missouri following severe winter storm.
(Just preempting the Onion, and possibly reality.)
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makeitstop Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:41:41am |
re: #491 Lidane
John Cornyn (R-TX)
Jim Inhofe (R-OK)
Lindsey Graham (R-SC)
Roger Wicker (R-MS)
David Vitter (R-LA)
Ted Cruz (R-TX)
Mike Lee (R-UT)
Pat Toomey (R-PA)
Marco Rubio (R-FL)
Dan Coats (R-IN)
Ron Johnson (R - WI)
Jim Risch (R-ID)
John Barrasso (R-WY)
Tom Coburn (R-OK)
Tim Scott (R-SC)
The usual suspects. Fuck ‘em. let them stew in knowing that they’re beat.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:42:48am |
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Lidane Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:43:23am |
re: #499 makeitstop
John Cornyn (R-TX)
Ted Cruz (R-TX)
So both my asshole Senators are on that list?
My surprise, let me show you it.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:43:45am |
re: #499 makeitstop
John Cornyn (R-TX)
Jim Inhofe (R-OK)
Lindsey Graham (R-SC)
Roger Wicker (R-MS)
David Vitter (R-LA)
Ted Cruz (R-TX)
Mike Lee (R-UT)
Pat Toomey (R-PA)
Marco Rubio (R-FL)
Dan Coats (R-IN)
Ron Johnson (R - WI)
Jim Risch (R-ID)
John Barrasso (R-WY)
Tom Coburn (R-OK)
Tim Scott (R-SC)The usual suspects. Fuck ‘em. let them stew in knowing that they’re beat.
Hey, no John McCain!
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Gus Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:44:01am |
Local news was on earlier here. Non-stop babbling about the weather. Trying to turn a 2 inch snow storm and drop in temperature into some kind of event. Of course, I’m sure this includes closures. For 2 inches maybe 4. It’s been raining, snowing, drought, and whatever since I can remember. Today though, every major storm event is turned into a hysteria of mass proportions complete with 3D graphics and special logos. Why they’re even starting to name some of these storms.
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Political Atheist Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:45:59am |
re: #503 Gus
Out here we call that sprinkle watch, riffing on STORMWATCH AT 11
*imagine deep serious voice over chyron”
Ratings baby!
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Targetpractice Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:46:26am |
re: #502 Feline Fearless Leader
Hey, no John McCain!
He’s on record as saying he opposes Hagel’s nomination, but he won’t vote against cloture.
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Interesting Times Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:46:44am |
Question for fellow Republicans: if as you say the sequester was a trap set by President Obama, why are you so determined to spring it?— davidfrum (@davidfrum) February 21, 2013
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:46:56am |
re: #503 Gus
I think that severe snowstorms should be named after street jargon for cocaine.
This’ll be snowstorm Snow, confusingly enough, followed by snowstorm Adult Confetti and snowstorm Brazilian Marching Powder.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:47:08am |
One thing I miss not shopping at Whole Foods anymore is their artisan bread. What am I going to do now? Guess I will just have to bake my own.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:47:46am |
Fake but accurate:
John Boehner: “The #sequester will threaten national security and jobs but it’ll give me more time to focus on my top priority: abortion”— The Daily Edge (@TheDailyEdge) February 21, 2013
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Targetpractice Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:48:26am |
re: #507 Interesting Times
Because they lack the common sense that God gave the lemming.
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Lidane Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:49:30am |
Messaging, not Message, continued:
Key House Republican: Don’t even think about a path to citizenship bit.ly/YdMWVn— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) February 21, 2013
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makeitstop Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:49:41am |
re: #502 Feline Fearless Leader
Hey, no John McCain!
McGrumpyPants already went on the record as saying he wouldn’t hold Hagel up. He’s prolly pissed that the rest of these assholes are getting publicity for this and he’s not.
/kinda
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:50:48am |
*FACE PALM*
Citizens should have voice in what cases SCOTUS hears! #Benghazi #FastAndFurious #tgdn #tcot— Greg Anderson (@sparkygreg) February 21, 2013
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makeitstop Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:51:10am |
re: #508 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut
I think that severe snowstorms should be named after street jargon for cocaine.
This’ll be snowstorm Snow, confusingly enough, followed by snowstorm Adult Confetti and snowstorm Brazilian Marching Powder.
Snowstorm Krill! (Stolen from Motley Crue)
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Bulworth Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:51:30am |
re: #499 makeitstop
Well, that’s just a list of non-bi-partisan Republican conservative teapartying straight-shooters there. Gotta listen to them. ////
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makeitstop Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:51:54am |
re: #509 Vicious Babushka
One thing I miss not shopping at Whole Foods anymore is their artisan bread. What am I going to do now? Guess I will just have to bake my own.
Are you making it with real artisans?
/
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:52:43am |
re: #517 makeitstop
Are you making it with real artisans?
/
I think I have some in the back of the pantry. They stopped thumping around a while ago.//
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Gus Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:52:50am |
re: #504 Political Atheist
Out here we call that sprinkle watch, riffing on STORMWATCH AT 11
*imagine deep serious voice over chyron”Ratings baby!
Never liked it. The Columbia shuttle disaster was the beginning of the end for me WRT to TV news. They went overboard and finally I really did kill my TV. Freaked my dad out. Just picked it up and threw it on the basement floor. :D
| 520 |
Bulworth Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:52:54am |
re: #514 Vicious Babushka
Yeah I don’t know why the SCOTUS hasn’t taken up the case of Wingnuts vs. Benghazigate or Teahadists vs. Fast&Furious.
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chadu Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:53:16am |
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Targetpractice Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:53:22am |
re: #512 Lidane
Messaging, not Message, continued:
I think we all know how this plays out. Senate creates and passes immigration bill with pathway, House declares it DOA, passes one that makes illegals essentially indentured servants, bill gets passed on partisan vote, dies in Senate, and we’re left with no progress while Republicans go home next year to boast how they “protected” America from the hoards of illegals getting green cards.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:53:59am |
re: #520 Bulworth
Yeah I don’t know why the SCOTUS hasn’t taken up the case of Wingnuts vs. Benghazigate or Teahadists vs. Fast&Furious.
This guy is going on and on just as though SCOTUS didn’t hand Orly her ass three days ago.
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erik_t Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:54:31am |
re: #523 Vicious Babushka
This guy is going on and on just as though SCOTUS didn’t hand Orly her ass three days ago.
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:57:19am |
Leader of Palestinian group injured in Syria bombing
Nayef Hawatmeh, head of the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, suffered light wounds when he was hit by flying glass after a car bomb exploded in central Damascus, according to Arab sources. Thursday’s explosion in the city killed more than 40 people and injured over 200.
Hawatmeh formed the Marxist DFLP – one of the major factions within the Palestine Liberation Organization – in 1969. The organization was responsible for numerous terrorist attacks on Israeli soil, including the attack at Maalot in 1974, which killed some 30 people.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:57:38am |
Sunday is Purim, which has been described as “a two-day Halloween where DRINKING is MANDATORY.”
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dragonath Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:01:32am |
Somebody on Balloon Juice found the reason why McCain was so vehemently against a Susan Rice nomination:
Senator McCain’s bitterness with Susan Rice isn’t about Benghazi, it is personal
Wait, you mean McCain is more interested in petty personal disputes? Also, A couple days after his Baghdad vanity visit, there was another bombing.
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Lidane Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:03:42am |
re: #526 Vicious Babushka
Sunday is Purim, which has been described as “a two-day Halloween where DRINKING is MANDATORY.”
I had a Jewish friend of mine tell me years ago that Purim was when the happiest drunk in the room was a rabbi. Heh.
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erik_t Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:04:21am |
re: #526 Vicious Babushka
Sunday is Purim, which has been described as “a two-day Halloween where DRINKING is MANDATORY.”
So you’re saying it’s a two-day Halloween.
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dragonath Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:04:35am |
By now, McCain totally would have totally gotten in a war with Moldova, because somebody looked at him funny.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:05:40am |
re: #529 erik_t
So you’re saying it’s a two-day Halloween.
Dressing in costumes and giving out candy, yeah. And getting totally wasted.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:06:27am |
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Gus Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:08:00am |
re: #532 NJDhockeyfan
Dashcam meteor videos blocked in Germany because of copyrighted background music
Like the music coming from the car radio?
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Ghost of Tom Joad Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:08:36am |
re: #527 dragonath
Somebody on Balloon Juice found the reason why McCain was so vehemently against a Susan Rice nomination:
Senator McCain’s bitterness with Susan Rice isn’t about Benghazi, it is personal
Wait, you mean McCain is more interested in petty personal disputes? Also, A couple days after his Baghdad vanity visit, there was another bombing.
He is such a pitiful dick. I said it before, I’ll say it again: he’s still fighting the Vietnam war, and every grudge he has is a VC to him.
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TedStriker Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:11:20am |
re: #519 Gus
Never liked it. The Columbia shuttle disaster was the beginning of the end for me WRT to TV news. They went overboard and finally I really did kill my TV. Freaked my dad out. Just picked it up and threw it on the basement floor. :D
Why didn’t you do an Elvis?
Putting a hole in it would have been more fun.
//
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Gus Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:15:29am |
@nerdywonka @realdonaldtrump Hey, you’ve always been a sideshow in NYC. Talk to the Daily News. #p2 #tlot twitter.com/Gus_802/status…— Gus (@Gus_802) February 21, 2013
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wrenchwench Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:17:27am |
I don’t like rodeos any more, but I still like rodeo parades.
Creative wagons at the Tucson Rodeo Parade. #rodeodays twitter.com/StarNet/status…— StarNet (@StarNet) February 21, 2013
Horse train at the Tucson Rodeo Parade. #rodeodays twitter.com/StarNet/status…— StarNet (@StarNet) February 21, 2013
Tweet #rodeodays to join in on StarNet’s liveblog of the Tucson Rodeo Parade. twitter.com/StarNet/status…— StarNet (@StarNet) February 21, 2013
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:17:28am |
re: #533 Gus
Like the music coming from the car radio?
Looks like it. I wonder if videos with someone just singing is also banned?
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:18:21am |
I thought Donald was starting to sound intelligent, so I removed him from the Derp list. Oopsie.
My Twitter has been seriously hacked—- and we are looking for the perpetrators.— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 21, 2013
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lawhawk Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:18:44am |
re: #471 Lidane
It’s like the SNL skit: Djesus Uncrossed. Djesus H Christ - the H is silent.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:21:09am |
*FACE PALM*
How Obama drives cost of your insurance through ceiling: orders coverage for things you don’t need. nyti.ms/XywZK2— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) February 21, 2013
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:22:01am |
I have become thoroughly addicted to, and frustrated by world of tanks. Also recommend Sniper Elite V2.
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lawhawk Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:22:35am |
re: #514 Vicious Babushka
Damn. Every time that you think he can’t seem to cram enough stupid into 140 characters, he does something like that to remind you that yes - he can.
That’s a quadruple facepalm moment.
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geoffm33 Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:23:34am |
re: #542 Vicious Babushka
@bryanjfischer Exactly, all you need is the POWER OF JESUS!!!!! Health coverage is a scam.— Geoff Manning (@geoffm33) February 21, 2013
| 546 |
Bulworth Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:23:39am |
re: #542 Vicious Babushka
Oh no. Someone has hacked Bryan’s account. /
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:23:49am |
re: #544 lawhawk
Damn. Every time that you think he can’t seem to cram enough stupid into 140 characters, he does something like that to remind you that yes - he can.
That’s a quadruple facepalm moment.
Bryan Fischer still has the most DERP Per Tweet
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lawhawk Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:25:07am |
re: #545 geoffm33
@bryanjfischer I can’t possibly imagine people ever needing mental health coverage. Who’d need or think of that. Amazing insight. /sarc— lawhawk (@lawhawk) February 21, 2013
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Targetpractice Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:26:57am |
re: #542 Vicious Babushka
*FACE PALM*
Haven’t these yahoos just spent the last couple months bitching at length about how we need to be locking crazy people up before they go on shooting sprees?
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:27:17am |
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lawhawk Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:27:20am |
re: #539 Vicious Babushka
Maybe if his password wasn’t 1.2.3.4.5. he wouldn’t have gotten hacked.
That’s the stupidest combination I’ve ever heard in my life! That’s the kind of thing an idiot would have on his luggage!
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:27:49am |
re: #550 Targetpractice
Haven’t these yahoos just spent the last couple months bitching at length about how we need to be locking crazy people up before they go on shooting sprees?
YEAH BUT THAT DOESN’T MEAN WE SHOULD BE GIVING THEM THERAPY AND MEDS!11 JUST A PADDED CELL AND A STRAIGHT JACKET
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:28:28am |
re: #553 Vicious Babushka
YEAH BUT THAT DOESN’T MEAN WE SHOULD BE GIVING THEM THERAPY AND MEDS!11 JUST A PADDED CELL AND A STRAIGHT JACKET
Exorcism for the lot of them!
| 555 |
Gus Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:28:33am |
UPDATE: Robert Jeffress says Tim Tebow told him he hopes to go to his anti-gay church once the controversy blows over bit.ly/11XyQNS— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) February 21, 2013
| 557 |
Lidane Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:29:39am |
The American Spectator continues to prove its obsolescence:
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:30:23am |
re: #554 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
Exorcism for the lot of them!
HEY WE R CIVILIZED!1! WE CHARGE ADMISSION 2 C TEH RETARDS AND THAT PAYS FOR THERE STRAIGHT JACKETS. THOSE THAT CANT PAY GET GAY JACKETS!1!1
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erik_t Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:30:32am |
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makeitstop Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:30:41am |
re: #555 Gus
UPDATE: Robert Jeffress says Tim Tebow told him he hopes to go to his anti-gay church once the controversy blows over
Tebow doesn’t realize the controversy will blow over until he announces he’s going again, at which point it’ll just flare up again.
That boy ain’t too bright.
/Foghorn
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lawhawk Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:31:01am |
re: #507 Interesting Times
@davidfrum Bc deep down in places they don’t want to talk about, they really do want to cut govt spending - just not take blame 4 it— lawhawk (@lawhawk) February 21, 2013
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Ghost of Tom Joad Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:32:20am |
re: #552 lawhawk
Maybe if his password wasn’t 1.2.3.4.5. he wouldn’t have gotten hacked.
That’s the stupidest combination I’ve ever heard in my life! That’s the kind of thing an idiot would have on his luggage!
lol ^ding for Spaceballs.
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lawhawk Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:32:30am |
re: #560 makeitstop
Or, he’s savvy enough to know that it’s never going to blow over so he doesn’t have to plan for attending and it doesn’t appear like he’s blowing off that church group. It’s a two-fer
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Ghost of Tom Joad Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:33:35am |
re: #555 Gus
Always knew Tebow was a sanctimonious charlatan.
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geoffm33 Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:34:28am |
re: #564 lawhawk
Right. There is no such tome when it will “blow over”. His attendance at that church is the controversy. Logic fail for Jeffress to believe that.
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Gus Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:34:45am |
re: #565 Ghost of Tom Joad
Always knew Tebow was a sanctimonious charlatan.
Oh yeah. I was so glad when the Broncos finally got rid of him.
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makeitstop Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:34:56am |
re: #564 lawhawk
Or, he’s savvy enough to know that it’s never going to blow over so he doesn’t have to plan for attending and it doesn’t appear like he’s blowing off that church group. It’s a two-fer
Or…
He’ll wait for things to quiet down, then go unannounced.
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Lidane Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:35:24am |
EXPOSED: The Democrats devious plan to win votes by backing popular bills: nationalreview.com/blogs/print/34…— Matt Yglesias (@mattyglesias) February 21, 2013
| 570 |
NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:36:33am |
This is becoming bizarre.
New Detective In Pistorius Case
PRETORIA, South Africa (AP) - South Africa’s police head has appointed its top detective as the new lead investigator in the Oscar Pistorius murder case.
The decision came after it emerged the initial investigator, Hilton Botha, was facing attempted murder charges.
National Commissioner Riah Phiyega says Lt. Gen. Vinesh Moonoo will take over the investigation.
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lawhawk Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:37:09am |
re: #567 Gus
Oh yeah. I was so glad when the Broncos finally got rid of him.
Even happier when the Jests picked him up and then turned him into the secret quarterback agent. Awe-Some!
/laughing at the Jets and idiotic management
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:37:21am |
Playboy Mansion possible ‘swatting’ target after 911 call lat.ms/XBzpHB— L.A. Times: L.A. Now (@LANow) February 21, 2013
| 573 |
Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:37:36am |
re: #509 Vicious Babushka
One thing I miss not shopping at Whole Foods anymore is their artisan bread. What am I going to do now? Guess I will just have to bake my own.
I’m in luck in having a couple of good local bakeries that do a good variety of breads including some very nice whole grain loaves. Makes a mean lemon bar as well. :)
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Ghost of Tom Joad Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:37:52am |
re: #570 NJDhockeyfan
This is becoming bizarre.
I swear that whole thing is like South Africa’s O.J. Simpson case redux. All it’s missing is a glove and a getaway.
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Eventual Carrion Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:38:12am |
re: #455 Vicious Babushka
How many have names like Heywood Jabloeme, Seymour Butz, Adam Baum, Herbie Hind?
Stu Pedasho
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:38:46am |
re: #574 Ghost of Tom Joad
I swear that whole thing is like South Africa’s O.J. Simpson case redux. All it’s missing is a glove and a getaway.
His defense lawyer will say, “if the prosthesis doesn’t fit, you must acquit!”
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:41:19am |
Hotel guests horrified after tourist’s body is found in water tank
Guests of a downtown hotel where missing Canadian tourist Elisa Lam was found dead in a rooftop water tank expressed horror at the discovery.
Lam’s body was discovered by a worker at the Cecil Hotel checking out complaints of weak water pressure, police said.
“I’m really disgusted,” said Annette Suzuki, a San Francisco resident staying at the hotel. “Wouldn’t you be if there was a dead body in the water tank you’re drinking from?”
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:41:20am |
re: #509 Vicious Babushka
where, in general, are you located?
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Gus Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:42:57am |
OK, so some idiot decided to keep a loaded magazine IN THEIR OVEN. Guess what happened when they turned it on? abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/regio…— David Waldman (@KagroX) February 20, 2013
Why?
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Gus Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:44:14am |
re: #580 Vicious Babushka
I can’t even…
Where should I put this magazine?
Oh, I don’t know. Put it in the oven.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:45:12am |
re: #581 Gus
Where should I put this magazine?
Oh, I don’t know. Put it in the oven.
When I was 9 our babysitter was fired because she put a flashlight in the oven. Guess how my mom found out?
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lawhawk Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:46:03am |
re: #579 Gus
Because it was their intention of serving hot lead to the intruder?
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erik_t Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:47:02am |
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Gus Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:47:25am |
re: #582 NJDhockeyfan
When I was 9 our babysitter was fired because she put a flashlight in the oven. Guess how my mom found out?
How did she find out? The melting or did the batteries explode?
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:48:15am |
And to think I was pissed at Zedushka because he didn’t take the used drip pan out after he made himself a burger.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:50:03am |
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:50:22am |
re: #581 Gus
Where should I put this magazine?
Oh, I don’t know. Put it in the oven.
Too many movies seen where Steven Segal uses a microwave to trigger a bomb is my guess. So use the oven instead, it’s safer!
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:50:30am |
I once left the cordless phone in the linen closet. We were looking for it everywhere and it rang and rang but we didn’t hear it because it was covered with towels.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:55:27am |
HOW DARE THOSE UPPITY POORS WANT ENOUGH TO LIVE ON.
Lots of “Make Minimum Wage a Living Wage!” signs here in upstate NY. Yikes…— Gabriella Hoffman (@Gabby_Hoffman) February 21, 2013
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:57:28am |
re: #588 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
That’s DailyKos, therefore it doesn’t exist.
;P
///
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darthstar Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:58:17am |
re: #587 Gus
Hey Joe. Where should I put these sticks of dynamite?
Under the water heater is a good spot…nice, warm and dry there near the pilot light.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:59:02am |
re: #587 Gus
Hey Joe. Where should I put these sticks of dynamite?
Better the oven than an old refrigerator for a decade or so. A Ft. Knox explosive ordnance disposal team was called to blow one in place in an Eastern KY mining town. After years in the broken fridge, the nitroglycerine had evaporated out of the dynamite and re-crystallized on the interior.
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:59:23am |
re: #591 Vicious Babushka
Lots of “Make Minimum Wage a Living Wage!” signs here in upstate NY. Yikes…
If we raise the minimum wage to above the poverty level, what incentive will the poor people have to work harder to escape poverty?
/
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:59:32am |
re: #593 darthstar
Under the water heater is a good spot…nice, warm and dry there near the pilot light.
If they get wet from a leak, you can just dry them off in the microwave.
| 597 |
Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:00:33am |
re: #595 Sol Berdinowitz
If we raise the minimum wage to above the poverty level, what incentive will the poor people have to work harder to escape poverty?
/
WHY NOT JUST GO ALL OUT AND MAKE MINIMUM WAGE 100K/YR!1!!!!
This really is a meme with them.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:01:33am |
re: #595 Sol Berdinowitz
If we raise the minimum wage to above the poverty level, what incentive will the poor people have to work harder to escape poverty?
/
Because if you pay them a living wage they might have time to realize that they are in a class war and not a race war.
/
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:01:50am |
re: #594 Decatur Deb
I sat on a whoopee cushion made of C4 once.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:02:08am |
re: #598 Feline Fearless Leader
Because if you pay them a living wage they might have time to realize that they are in a class war and not a race war.
/
Ta-da!!
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:03:22am |
re: #585 Gus
How did she find out? The melting or did the batteries explode?
Melted it. She smelled something burning and when she opened the oven is was smoking.
| 602 |
Gus Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:03:42am |
Republican Party Platform of 1956
Labor
…Continue and further perfect its programs of assistance to the millions of workers with special employment problems, such as older workers, handicapped workers, members of minority groups, and migratory workers;
Strengthen and improve the Federal-State Employment Service and improve the effectiveness of the unemployment insurance system;
Protect by law, the assets of employee welfare and benefit plans so that workers who are the beneficiaries can be assured of their rightful benefits;
Assure equal pay for equal work regardless of Sex;
Clarify and strengthen the eight-hour laws for the benefit of workers who are subject to federal wage standards on Federal and Federally-assisted construction, and maintain and continue the vigorous administration of the Federal prevailing minimum wage law for public supply contracts;
Extend the protection of the Federal minimum wage laws to as many more workers as is possible and practicable;
Continue to fight for the elimination of discrimination in employment because of race, creed, color, national origin, ancestry or sex;
Provide assistance to improve the economic conditions of areas faced with persistent and substantial unemployment;
Revise and improve the Taft-Hartley Act so as to protect more effectively the rights of labor unions, management, the individual worker, and the public. The protection of the right of workers to organize into unions and to bargain collectively is the firm and permanent policy of the Eisenhower Administration. In 1954, 1955 and again in 1956, President Eisenhower recommended constructive amendments to this Act. The Democrats in Congress have consistently blocked these needed changes by parliamentary maneuvers. The Republican Party pledges itself to overhaul and improve the Taft-Hartley Act along the lines of these recommendations.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:03:59am |
re: #599 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut
I sat on a whoopee cushion made of C4 once.
Joking around at Varek’s place again?
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Gus Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:04:43am |
…
The record of performance of the Republican Administration on behalf of our working men and women goes still further. The Federal minimum wage has been raised for more than 2 million workers. Social Security has been extended to an additional 10 million workers and the benefits raised for 6 1/2 million. The protection of unemployment insurance has been brought to 4 million additional workers. There have been increased workmen’s compensation benefits for longshoremen and harbor workers, increased retirement benefits for railroad employees, and wage increases and improved welfare and pension plans for federal employees.
| 606 |
Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:05:57am |
re: #602 Gus
GOP Platform of 1956: Buncha Commie Libruls! presidency.ucsb.edu via @presidency_proj #tgdn #UniteBlue #MinimumWage #EqualPay— Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) February 21, 2013
| 607 |
NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:06:42am |
Iran tries to speed up nuclear work
Iran has begun installing advanced centrifuges at its main uranium enrichment plant, a UN nuclear report said on Thursday, a defiant step likely to anger world powers ahead of a resumption of talks with Tehran next week.
In a confidential report, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) said 180 so-called IR-2m centrifuges and empty centrifuge casings had been hooked up at the plant near the central town of Natanz. They were not yet operating.
If launched successfully, such machines could enable Iran to significantly speed up its accumulation of material that the West fears could be used to devise a nuclear weapon. Iran says it is refining uranium only for peaceful energy purposes.
They must be running low on electrical power.
//
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darthstar Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:07:27am |
Update on the job front. I accepted a gig with a private, and profitable, company in San Francisco. My days of running the dogs on the beach for hours will soon be coming to an end…soon, but not today!
Banjo and Hudson (my brother’s dog)
Image: 312407_10151464881713024_901907947_n.jpg
Hudson and Bella (my brother’s other dog)
Image: 560035_10151464882153024_238744977_n.jpg
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:07:46am |
re: #602 Gus
That’s pre-Southern Strategy GOP. And also a time and place where both parties had a spectrum of representation from progressive to conservative. Some bending took place, but that pretty much made it likely that the candidates would, if not outright moderate, at least be pragmatic and centered on getting things done.
And lots of backroom deal cutting in Congress with the way “old style” politics worked with the Old Boy Network and exchanging favors.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:08:52am |
re: #608 darthstar
Update on the job front. I accepted a gig with a private, and profitable, company in San Francisco. My days of running the dogs on the beach for hours will soon be coming to an end…soon, but not today!
Banjo and Hudson (my brother’s dog)
Image: 312407_10151464881713024_901907947_n.jpgHudson and Bella (my brother’s other dog)
Image: 560035_10151464882153024_238744977_n.jpg
Congrats, I think…
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:10:37am |
WHO IS HISTORY’S GREATEST SERIAL ADULTERER?
Media: fine for president to pal with history’s biggest serial adulterer, evil for athlete to hang with Christian pastor.— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) February 21, 2013
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:10:52am |
re: #608 darthstar
Update on the job front. I accepted a gig with a private, and profitable, company in San Francisco. My days of running the dogs on the beach for hours will soon be coming to an end…soon, but not today!
Banjo and Hudson (my brother’s dog)
Image: 312407_10151464881713024_901907947_n.jpgHudson and Bella (my brother’s other dog)
Image: 560035_10151464882153024_238744977_n.jpg
Updating to running on the beach with the dogs for hours while wearing a wireless headset to handle support calls?
:D
| 614 |
Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:11:25am |
Did Bryan spend hours poring over historical data to determine who is History’s Greatest Serial Adulterer?
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:12:07am |
re: #612 Vicious Babushka
WHO IS HISTORY’S GREATEST SERIAL ADULTERER?
I presume that’s a reference to golfing with Tiger Woods.
So inaccurate that it’s not even wrong.
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darthstar Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:12:36am |
re: #610 Decatur Deb
Congrats, I think…
Congrats, definitely…they’re pretty generous in that they do biannual reviews and pay raises, so the 15K drop in pay I’m taking will be made up in the next year and a half…so long as I don’t fuck up (which won’t happen). And they’re only four blocks from the Golden Gateway swim and tennis club, so I can keep up with my lunch time swims.
| 618 |
Gus Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:13:02am |
re: #606 Vicious Babushka
There’s a lot about faith in the preamble but I shrug that off. Overall it’s a very progressive Republican platform. Irony in that the 50s Republicans would be considered RINOs by today’s revanchists and Tea Partiers. The 50s! But it was was mentioned pre-Southern-Strategy and about a decade before the break up of the Dixiecrats. This was when they were still “The Party of Lincoln.”
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:13:20am |
re: #616 b_sharp
I think he means Tiger Woods.
I don’t think Tiger even comes close to other historical figures. Also doesn’t “serial” mean “one at a time”? There were adulterers in history who had whole bunches at a time.
| 620 |
darthstar Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:14:55am |
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:14:59am |
Does this mean people can be fired for voting GOP?
Excellent! Give DNC morons what they voted for - Woman Fired For Voting For Obama patdollard.com/2013/02/feel-g… #tcot @patdollard— John Galt (@mzagorski) February 21, 2013
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:15:20am |
re: #620 darthstar
You made me throw up in my mouth.
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Gus Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:17:28am |
Tiger Woods
Spouse:
Elin Nordegren (2004–2010)
Newt Gingirch
Spouse(s)
Jackie Battley (1962–1981)
Marianne Ginther (1981–2000)
Callista Bisek (2000–present)
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Interesting Times Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:18:12am |
The difference between the GOP and Scientology is Scientology would never let Donald Trump mess up its brand. fb.me/yoLhSFpY— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) February 21, 2013
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Ghost of Tom Joad Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:18:49am |
re: #623 Gus
Tiger Woods
Spouse:
Elin Nordegren (2004-2010)Newt Gingirch
Spouse(s)
Jackie Battley (1962-1981)
Marianne Ginther (1981-2000)
Callista Bisek (2000-present)
So Callista is safe until about the 2nd year of Hillary’s presidency. Good for her.
| 626 |
Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:19:35am |
How many mistresses did Louis XIV have? Charles II of England?
| 627 |
NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:19:58am |
re: #626 Vicious Babushka
How many mistresses did Louis XIV have? Charles II of England?
More than me.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:20:55am |
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Gus Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:20:59am |
He has had two wives and has eight children, including three out of wedlock in two liaisons almost 30 years apart. In the late 1960s, prior to his first marriage, Nugent fathered a boy, Ted (Mann) and a girl, whom he gave up for adoption in infancy. This did not become public knowledge until 2010. The siblings were adopted separately and had no contact with one another. The son learned the identity of his birth father in 2010 through the daughter’s quest to make contact with him and their birth parents. According to a news report, Nugent over the years had discussed the existence of these children with his other children.[27]
In 2005 Nugent was involved in a legal battle for not paying enough child support for a child he had out of wedlock in 1995.[28] It was finally resolved when Nugent was ordered to pay $3,500 per month in child support.[29]
He was married to his first wife, Sandra Jezowski, from 1970 to 1979. They had three children, son Theodore Tobias “Toby” Nugent, and daughters Sasha and Starr Nugent. Sandra died in a car crash in 1982. His second marriage was to Shemane Deziel, whom he met while a guest on Detroit’s WLLZ-FM, where she was a member of the news staff. They married on January 21, 1989. Together they have two children, son Rocco Winchester Nugent, and daughter Chantal Nugent.
In 1978, Nugent began a relationship with seventeen-year-old Hawaii native Pele Massa. Due to the age difference they could not marry so Nugent joined Massa’s parents in signing documents to make himself her legal guardian, an arrangement that Spin magazine ranked in October 2000 as #63 on their list of the “100 Sleaziest Moments in Rock”.[30][31]
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:21:24am |
Larry Klayman (alleged pedophile) to Represent Group Defending Joe Arpaio
Larry Klayman, the birther attorney who is now calling for an armed revolution against President Obama, is representing a new group of Tea Party members defending Sheriff Joe Arpaio from a potential recall election.
The Judicial Watch founder is threatening to sue activists who are collecting petitions to recall the Maricopa County, Arizona sheriff. In a video posted by Arizona Nightly News, Klayman ironically calls Arpaio opponents “vigilantes” who seek to “harass” the sheriff and distorts state election law to claim that the recall attempt is illegal.
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darthstar Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:21:48am |
ALERT: Red Dawn starting now on Encore.
WOLVERINES!!!
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:22:01am |
re: #626 Vicious Babushka
How many mistresses did Louis XIV have? Charles II of England?
But neither of them has recently been chummy with Obama. That is the primary criteria - and then you can go looking for some sin to crow about.
Have to hang some guilt by association on Obama since Tebow was criticized for associating with a bigoted pastor.
| 633 |
Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:23:15am |
re: #631 darthstar
ALERT: Red Dawn starting now on Encore.
WOLVERINES!!!
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klys Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:23:51am |
re: #629 Gus
I have nothing against age-separated relationships but making himself her legal guardian? I need a shower just reading that.
| 635 |
Bulworth Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:24:52am |
re: #612 Vicious Babushka
I see Bryan is tweeting some of his deepest thoughts. //
| 636 |
Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:25:15am |
Nugent: Obama ‘Is The Clear and Present Engineer of the Destruction of Black America’
Nugent, who has described Obama voters as “subhuman varmint[s]” and “pimps whores & welfare brats” and criticized civil rights activists for “lisping their ebonic mumbo-jumbo,” is out with a new WorldNetDaily column which argues that Obama and his Democratic allies “have raped and plundered black America.”
Nugent maintains that Obama, whom he has threatened to kill and accused of having a “racist agenda,” “is the clear and present engineer of the destruction of black America” and that “the Democratic Party has been the engineer of the destruction of black Americans.”
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Ghost of Tom Joad Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:25:39am |
re: #634 klys
I have nothing against age-separated relationships but making himself her legal guardian? I need a shower just reading that.
Technically, he was screwing his adopted child.
Obviously, a great citizen./
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:26:08am |
re: #637 Ghost of Tom Joad
Technically, he was screwing his adopted child.
Obviously, a great citizen./
Wait, I thought that was Woody Allen?
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Ghost of Tom Joad Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:27:40am |
re: #638 Vicious Babushka
Wait, I thought that was Woody Allen?
Another vaunted winner of fame that I’ll never understand. I think he’s made maybe one movie I can tolerate, and I can’t even remember the name of it.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:28:53am |
re: #639 Ghost of Tom Joad
Another vaunted winner of fame that I’ll never understand. I think he’s made maybe one movie I can tolerate, and I can’t even remember the name of it.
I have proudly never seen a Woody Allen movie, or a movie that had Barbra Streisand in it (except for “Hello Dolly” and “Funny Girl”)
| 641 |
First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:29:54am |
re: #608 darthstar
Update on the job front. I accepted a gig with a private, and profitable, company in San Francisco. My days of running the dogs on the beach for hours will soon be coming to an end…soon, but not today!
Banjo and Hudson (my brother’s dog)
Image: 312407_10151464881713024_901907947_n.jpgHudson and Bella (my brother’s other dog)
Image: 560035_10151464882153024_238744977_n.jpg
I have a feeling my dog would be pretty upset if I’d named him “Banjo”. He would probably prefer to be named “Mini-Moog”, “Hammond B-3”, or “Prophet 5”.
| 642 |
Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:30:54am |
re: #639 Ghost of Tom Joad
Another vaunted winner of fame that I’ll never understand. I think he’s made maybe one movie I can tolerate, and I can’t even remember the name of it.
Sleeper and Bananas are about it for me.
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Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:31:28am |
| 644 |
Lidane Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:32:27am |
re: #598 Feline Fearless Leader
Because if you pay them a living wage they might have time to realize that they are in a class war and not a race war.
/
No sarc tag needed. That’s exactly the plan.
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Ghost of Tom Joad Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:32:55am |
| 646 |
darthstar Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:33:11am |
re: #641 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce
I have a feeling my dog would be pretty upset if I’d named him “Banjo”. He would probably prefer to be named “Mini-Moog”, “Hammond B-3”, or “Prophet 5”.
Your dog must be well endowed if you’d give him a name that meant ‘organ’…
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klys Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:33:41am |
re: #637 Ghost of Tom Joad
Better yet, although the Wikipedia article says they couldn’t get married because of the age difference, perhaps a better reason is found by perusing the dates of his first marriage, which didn’t end until a year after the guardianship started.
Family values, eh?
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:34:53am |
re: #642 Kragar (Antichrist )
Sleeper and Bananas are about it for me.
I think Woody Allen’s stuff is a bit about the style in the period when they were made as well as his style of movie making and what he likes making movies about. Angst-ridden relationship movies only go so far.
Though I admit I like parts of _Mighty Aphrodite_ simply for how he mixes the various elements together.
| 649 |
Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:37:37am |
re: #648 Feline Fearless Leader
I think Woody Allen’s stuff is a bit about the style in the period when they were made as well as his style of movie making and what he likes making movies about. Angst-ridden relationship movies only go so far.
I kind of feel that way about Ben Stiller movies. He was great in Zero Effect in a pure straight man, non comedic role. Something about Mary was hilarious at the time, but then almost every other movie he made was him being beaten up and humiliated for a relationship. It got old real fast.
| 650 |
Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:41:13am |
re: #648 Feline Fearless Leader
I think Woody Allen’s stuff is a bit about the style in the period when they were made as well as his style of movie making and what he likes making movies about. Angst-ridden relationship movies only go so far.
Though I admit I like parts of _Mighty Aphrodite_ simply for how he mixes the various elements together.
The best comedy directors: Mel Brooks and Coen brothers.
| 651 |
Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:42:51am |
Top GOP Senator: Native American Juries Are Incapable Of Trying White People Fairly
On Wednesday, Sen. Chuck Grassley added a new one: Native Americans supposedly aren’t capable of holding fair trials.
…
GRASSLEY: One provision that non-Native Americans can be tried in tribal court. And why is that a big thing? Because of the constitutionality of it, for two reasons. One, you know how the law is, that if you have a jury, the jury is supposed to be a reflection of society. […] So you get non-Indians, let me say to make it easy, you get non-Indians going into a reservation and violating a woman. They need to be prosecuted. They aren’t prosecuted. So the idea behind [VAWA] is we’ll try them in tribal court. But under the laws of our land, you got to have a jury that is a reflection of society as a whole, and on an Indian reservation, it’s going to be made up of Indians, right? So the non-Indian doesn’t get a fair trial.
| 652 |
Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:44:02am |
re: #651 Kragar (Antichrist )
Top GOP Senator: Native American Juries Are Incapable Of Trying White People Fairly
*FACE PALM*
| 653 |
Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:44:11am |
| 654 |
Ghost of Tom Joad Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:44:52am |
re: #651 Kragar (Antichrist )
Top GOP Senator: Native American Juries Are Incapable Of Trying White People Fairly
I’m sure he had the same opinion when a jury of whites would convict an apparently innocent black in the south. Jury of peers indeed./
| 655 |
Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:45:01am |
re: #651 Kragar (Antichrist )
Top GOP Senator: Native American Juries Are Incapable Of Trying White People Fairly
What if a white guy raped a black woman in the city of Detroit?
| 656 |
Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:45:09am |
re: #650 Vicious Babushka
The best comedy directors: Mel Brooks and Coen brothers.
Billy Wilder was pretty good as well.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]
1959-1961 he directed “Some Like It Hot”, “The Apartment”, and “One, Two, Three”. All comedies and in somewhat different styles.
| 657 |
wrenchwench Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:45:12am |
re: #651 Kragar (Antichrist )
Top GOP Senator: Native American Juries Are Incapable Of Trying White People Fairly
I think that’s been the main objection all along, but they’ve been too chicken to say so.
| 658 |
Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:46:03am |
re: #655 Vicious Babushka
What if a white guy raped a black woman in the city of Detroit?
AR-15 JUSTICE!
| 659 |
klys Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:46:27am |
re: #651 Kragar (Antichrist )
Top GOP Senator: Native American Juries Are Incapable Of Trying White People Fairly
There needs to be a button for I appreciate you bringing this to my attention but the idiot who said it is vile and deserves to be shunned by society for the rest of forever. Because I can’t bring myself to upding it and I really want to downding the idiot but not you.
| 660 |
Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:46:45am |
re: #656 Feline Fearless Leader
Billy Wilder was pretty good as well.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]
1959-1961 he directed “Some Like It Hot”, “The Apartment”, and “One, Two, Three”. All comedies and in somewhat different styles.
Totally forgot about those old B&W movies.
| 661 |
Ghost of Tom Joad Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:47:23am |
re: #656 Feline Fearless Leader
Some Like it Hot is a classic. Was a good stage show too.
| 662 |
Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:48:04am |
re: #661 Ghost of Tom Joad
Some Like it Hot is a classic. Was a good stage show too.
“Nobody’s perfect.”
| 663 |
Interesting Times Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:48:33am |
Not 100% sure if this is a real quote, but if so, BWAHAHAHA:
Carney: WH wont w/draw Hagel. “Any suggestion to the contrary might have been found in the minutes of the meetings of the Friends of Hamas”— Felicia Sonmez (@feliciasonmez) February 21, 2013
| 664 |
wrenchwench Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:48:56am |
re: #659 klys
There needs to be a button for I appreciate you bringing this to my attention but the idiot who said it is vile and deserves to be shunned by society for the rest of forever. Because I can’t bring myself to upding it and I really want to downding the idiot but not you.
Upding it and then make a comment about how vile Kragar is.
Wait, I’m not sure I have that right….
| 665 |
Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:49:17am |
re: #660 Vicious Babushka
Totally forgot about those old B&W movies.
And to continue on Wilder he also added some very good comic scenes to lighten up otherwise fairly serious movies. The antics of Animal for instance in “Stalag 17”.
| 666 |
NJDhockeyfan Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:51:44am |
Al-Qaida tipsheet on avoiding drones found in Mali
One of the last things the bearded fighters did before leaving this city was to drive to the market where traders lay their carpets out in the sand.
The al-Qaida extremists bypassed the brightly-colored, high-end synthetic floor coverings and stopped their pickup truck in front of a man selling more modest mats woven from desert grass, priced at $1.40 apiece. There they bought two bales of 25 mats each, and asked him to bundle them on top of the car, along with a stack of sticks.
“It’s the first time someone has bought such a large amount,” said the mat seller, Leitny Cisse al-Djoumat. “They didn’t explain why they wanted so many.”
Military officials can tell why: The fighters are stretching the mats across the tops of their cars on poles to form natural carports, so that drones cannot detect them from the air.
The instruction to camouflage cars is one of 22 tips on how to avoid drones, listed on a document left behind by the Islamic extremists as they fled northern Mali from a French military intervention last month. A Xeroxed copy of the document, which was first published on a jihadist forum two years ago, was found by The Associated Press in a manila envelope on the floor of a building here occupied by al-Qaida of the Islamic Maghreb.
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darthstar Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:52:08am |
re: #663 Interesting Times
Not 100% sure if this is a real quote, but if so, BWAHAHAHA:
Yeah, 15 Republicans are calling for Hagel to withdraw his nomination. 15 Republicans are learning the meaning of the words, “Go fuck yourself.”
| 668 |
Gus Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:53:00am |
re: #651 Kragar (Antichrist )
Top GOP Senator: Native American Juries Are Incapable Of Trying White People Fairly
Clumsily worded but he may have a point. First, it’s American Indian and not Native America anymore. The reason it’s like this isn’t because they are American Indians but because of the structure of the tribal law system. Jury of our peers is a strong point. One has to ask? What is the difference between a black man facing an all white jury and a white man facing an all American Indian jury?
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wrenchwench Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:54:31am |
A small man was just in here with a large quantity of patchouli all over him. Even though it’s about 34 degrees out, I have to open something. The heater is just blowing it around.
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Ghost of Tom Joad Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:55:46am |
re: #669 wrenchwench
A small man was just in here with a large quantity of patchouli all over him. Even though it’s about 34 degrees out, I have to open something. The heater is just blowing it around.
It’s awful, isn’t it? I don’t understand why anybody would put that on anything unless they got rolled around in an outhouse. It makes my nose hairs curl.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:56:08am |
re: #668 Gus
Clumsily worded but he may have a point. First, it’s American Indian and not Native America anymore. The reason it’s like this isn’t because they are American Indians but because of the structure of the tribal law system. Jury of our peers is a strong point. One has to ask? What is the difference between a black man facing an all white jury and a white man facing an all American Indian jury?
Isn’t another complication the fact that many reservations are sort of mini-countries inside the US with a certain degree of independent sovereignty?
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wrenchwench Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:56:31am |
re: #668 Gus
Clumsily worded but he may have a point. First, it’s American Indian and not Native America anymore. The reason it’s like this isn’t because they are American Indians but because of the structure of the tribal law system. Jury of our peers is a strong point. One has to ask? What is the difference between a black man facing an all white jury and a white man facing an all American Indian jury?
From the link:
[…]
First of all, there is no requirement that juries reflect “society as a whole.” The Sixth Amendment requires juries to be drawn from the “State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed,” and Supreme Court decisions establish that criminal defendants also have a right to a jury which is “drawn from a fair cross section of the community,” where the trial court convenes to hear their case. But this does not entitle anyone to be tried by a jury that reflects the whole of American society.
A person who is tried in Vermont is likely to have an all-white jury because over 95 percent of Vermont is white. Similarly, a person who commits a crime in the Navajo Nation will face a jury of Native Americans because the population of the local community is made up of Navajo people. There is no reason to believe that Navajo jurors are any less impartial than white Vermonters, and Grassley is wrong to suggest otherwise.
Right now those cases rarely come to trial at all.
| 673 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:57:00am |
re: #668 Gus
Clumsily worded but he may have a point. First, it’s American Indian and not Native America anymore. The reason it’s like this isn’t because they are American Indians but because of the structure of the tribal law system. Jury of our peers is a strong point. One has to ask? What is the difference between a black man facing an all white jury and a white man facing an all American Indian jury?
Not since 1978
[Link: caselaw.lp.findlaw.com…]
Notice he doesn’t actually say anything about white people, Think Progress just added that part.
| 674 |
Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:00:05am |
re: #669 wrenchwench
A small man was just in here with a large quantity of patchouli all over him. Even though it’s about 34 degrees out, I have to open something. The heater is just blowing it around.
I have a tube of hand cream in my desk, “patchouli lavender vanilla.” This was a gift of the hotel we stayed at in Jerusalem. I am afraid to even remove the cap. The hotel must have receive a huge load of this hand cream from someplace, probably free because who would pay for it?
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Gus Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:00:39am |
re: #673 Killgore Trout
Not since 1978
[Link: caselaw.lp.findlaw.com…]
Notice he doesn’t actually say anything about white people, Think Progress just added that part.
Good point I missed that:
GRASSLEY: One provision that non-Native Americans can be tried in tribal court. And why is that a big thing? Because of the constitutionality of it, for two reasons. One, you know how the law is, that if you have a jury, the jury is supposed to be a reflection of society. […] So you get non-Indians, let me say to make it easy, you get non-Indians going into a reservation and violating a woman. They need to be prosecuted. They aren’t prosecuted. So the idea behind [VAWA] is we’ll try them in tribal court. But under the laws of our land, you got to have a jury that is a reflection of society as a whole, and on an Indian reservation, it’s going to be made up of Indians, right? So the non-Indian doesn’t get a fair trial.
Non-Native American can include a wide range of racial and ethnic identity. Byline editors perhaps.
| 676 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:13:49am |
re: #675 Gus
re: #675 Gus
Good point I missed that:
Non-Native American can include a wide range of racial and ethnic identity. Byline editors perhaps.
I skimmed the court ruling and they mention habeus corpus being a factor so it would stand to reason that other constitutional protections (trial by peers aka fellow citizens) would also apply. Also throw in the factor that if a German tourist ends up in tribal courts it could be a mess.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Thu, Feb 21, 2013 2:14:43pm |
re: #676 Killgore Trout
What right to jury of your peers do you think is written into the Constitution, Killgore?
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.
…
Trial of all Crimes, except in Cases of Impeachment, shall be by Jury; and such Trial shall be held in the State where the said Crimes shall have been committed; but when not committed within any State, the Trial shall be at such Place or Places as the Congress may by Law have directed.
There’s also the Supreme Court case that specifically decided excluding people on the grounds of race wasn’t Constitutional.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]
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