Mocked for Pushing Fake Story, Breitbrats Go Totally Ballistic

Desperately thrashing Breitbart
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The now thoroughly discredited hacks at breitbart.com are in a serious rage today, lashing out at everyone who mocked them over their “Friends of Hamas” fake story and posting at least nine articles so far today attacking Chuck Hagel even more rabidly than before.

The most ridiculous one of the bunch may be “editor” Joel Pollak’s pathetic, whiny complaint that the media aren’t pushing for Hagel to prove Breitbart’s fake claims wrong. Yes, that’s right — he actually expects the media to chase after the figments of his imagination: IN ‘FRIENDS OF HAMAS’ STORY, MEDIA FAIL TO PURSUE FULL DISCLOSURE FROM HAGEL!!!

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214 comments
1 Bulworth  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:53:52am

Anyone remember the breitbarts calling for candidate Romney to release his tax returns in the name of “reasonable disclosure”?

Me either.

2 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:53:56am

Keep chickening that fuck, or something.

3 darthstar  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:54:49am

re: #2 Ghost of Tom Joad

Keep chickening that fuck, or something.

I hear Breitbart’s editors are chicken fuckers…read it on the internet. I think they should come forward with evidence that they aren’t actually chicken fuckers.

4 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:55:32am

re: #3 darthstar

I hear Breitbart’s editors are chicken fuckers…read it on the internet. I think they should come forward with evidence that they aren’t actually chicken fuckers.

I just read that too.

It must be true.

5 klys  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:55:42am

Conspiracy theories: where one can never prove a negative.

6 Bulworth  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:56:11am

“address the substantive issues related to his associations.”

That’s a fair complaint, but I don’t see why Hagel’s time in the U.S. Senate as a member of the Republican Party should be held against him.


//

7 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:56:28am

We now have at least 3 sources who claim they’ve heard the staff at Breitbart fuck chickens. Why has the media not followed up on these claims?

8 Pete Puma  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:56:36am

I love it when morons go all in. Can’t wait for the river card on this one…

9 Kronocide  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:56:43am

DARVO Journalism. The real lamestream media.

10 lawhawk  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:56:46am

re: #3 darthstar

I hear Breitbart’s editors are chicken fuckers…read it on the internet. I think they should come forward with evidence that they aren’t actually chicken fuckers.

It’s an unknown unknown. /and I don’t want to know.

11 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:57:06am

re: #7 Kragar (Antichrist )

We now have at least 3 sources who claim they’ve heard the staff at Breitbart fuck chickens. Why has the media not followed up on these claims?

I know someone who knows someone who saw them fucking said chickens.

12 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:58:14am

re: #11 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I know someone who knows someone who saw them fucking said chickens.

I heard that the Fucked Chicken Association of Soshulist America made a donation to their website.

Is it irresponsible to speculate? It’s irresponsible not to./

13 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:00:19am

re: #12 Ghost of Tom Joad

I heard that the Fucked Chicken Association of Soshulist America made a donation to their website.

Is it irresponsible to speculate? It’s irresponsible not to./

I’m not accusing them of being a bunch of sick bastards who get off on sexually abusing poultry, I just have some concerns and I think someone needs to get to the bottom of it. That’s all I’m saying.
/

14 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:01:39am

Seriously, though - what the fuck is wrong with these people? All they had to do was say, “We made a mistake and retract our story about Friends of Hamas,” and it would be over and they’d have salvaged some of their credibility, such as it was.

Instead they’re getting even more unhinged and whiny. Don’t they realize what total losers they look like?

15 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:02:49am

HA HA HA

16 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:02:58am

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Seriously, though - what the fuck is wrong with these people? All they had to do was say, “We made a mistake and retract our story about Friends of Hamas,” and it would be over and they’d have salvaged some of their credibility, such as it was.

Instead they’re getting even more unhinged and whiny. Don’t they realize what total losers they look like?

They have too much of their egos invested in their nonsense to ever back down. To admit they might be wrong would destroy them.

17 lawhawk  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:03:26am

There were not one but two “FoH” stories that were built upon a mountain of crap. None actually contained any facts that definitively link Hagel to Hamas or a Friends of Hamas organization.

There’s no evidence FoH existed but there are indications that a NYDN reporter was the originator of the phrase as a means to get a source to look into whether Hagel had links to any kind of unsavory group - and that source never indicated that Hagel did.

Then, you’ve got Pollak, who claims a Harvard law degree, claiming that because Saad Hariri has links to the Atlantic Council and somewhere along the line said something positive about Hamas, that it conclusively proves that Hagel is a Hamas lover or should be disqualified.

Yet, buying into Pollak’s logic, you’d have to disqualify pretty much anyone who served in the US military, NATO, and dozens upon dozens of major corporations, because they were all sponsors of Atlantic Council - including News Corporation. When you cast a net as wide as Pollak does in order to catch Hagel supposedly doing something unsavory, you end up catching everyone - which is to say you haven’t caught anything. You’ve made a search so wide and vast as to be incapable of proving anything [fixed grammar].

But it does appear that Pollak learned one thing in law school; when the facts and law aren’t on your side - pound on the table and whine a lot in the hopes of winning over the jury. And he’s not even doing a good job at that.

18 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:03:36am

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Seriously, though - what the fuck is wrong with these people? All they had to do was say, “We made a mistake and retract our story about Friends of Hamas,” and it would be over and they’d have salvaged some of their credibility, such as it was.

Instead they’re getting even more unhinged and whiny. Don’t they realize what total losers they look like?

Conservatism is never wrong. It is just failed by apologizing for making a mistake (or wholesale pulling a lie out of one’s ass.)

19 jaunte  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:03:37am

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Don’t they realize what total losers they look like?

Dunning-Kruger says no.

20 Skip Intro  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:04:27am

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Seriously, though - what the fuck is wrong with these people? All they had to do was say, “We made a mistake and retract our story about Friends of Hamas,” and it would be over and they’d have salvaged some of their credibility, such as it was.

Does Rush Limbaugh ever do that? Hannity? Beck?

Wingnuts never apologize, ever. That would require character.

21 Interesting Times  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:04:29am

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Instead they’re getting even more unhinged and whiny. Don’t they realize what total losers they look like?

Feature-not-bug in rightwing blogosphere/punditry/politics.

22 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:04:47am
23 darthstar  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:04:51am

It’s even on TWITTER! It must be true!

24 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:07:17am

re: #22 Vicious Babushka

Youtube Video
25 Blue Point  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:07:52am

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Seriously, though - what the fuck is wrong with these people? All they had to do was say, “We made a mistake and retract our story about Friends of Hamas,” and it would be over and they’d have salvaged some of their credibility, such as it was.

Instead they’re getting even more unhinged and whiny. Don’t they realize what total losers they look like are?

26 makeitstop  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:07:57am

re: #4 Kragar (Antichrist )

I just read that too.

It must be true.

Legitimate source

27 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:08:01am
28 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:08:07am

re: #22 Vicious Babushka

Akin’s biggest apologist says what?

29 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:08:40am

re: #28 HappyWarrior

Akin’s biggest apologist says what?

Totally Jealous.

30 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:10:26am

re: #22 Vicious Babushka

Sad to me that people on our side enable the progressive narrative that Limbaugh is somehow the “de facto head of the GOP.”

Somebody please ask the Princess of Dipshitistan who actually does head/lead/represent the GOP. Considering all the elected and wannabe politicos on the GOP side have to kiss his ass and get all their talking points from him…if it looks like a chicken, moans like a fucked chicken…

31 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:11:31am

Some of this is frankly common sense. Do they really think a group called “Friends of Hamas” would not raise eyebrows in this country especially if it had a prominent former US Senator as a member? The rage doesn’t help. Of course, in typical Breitbartian fashion, this is an excuse to continue to melt down.

32 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:12:33am

re: #30 Ghost of Tom Joad

Somebody please ask the Princess of Dipshitistan who actually does head/lead/represent the GOP. Considering all the elected and wannabe politicos on the GOP side have to kiss his ass and get all their talking points from him…if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck…

At this point, the GOP is flailing around like a chicken with its head cut off.

A dirty sexy naughty chicken. No wonder Breitbarters like them so much.

33 Bulworth  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:13:44am

re: #27 Vicious Babushka

Why is Dana beating dead horses and how long has she been beating dead horses?

34 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:13:58am

re: #30 Ghost of Tom Joad

Somebody please ask the Princess of Dipshitistan who actually does head/lead/represent the GOP. Considering all the elected and wannabe politicos on the GOP side have to kiss his ass and get all their talking points from him…if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck…

Really, the silence from the GOP candidates when Limbaugh called Sandra Fluke a slut or when Phil Gingrey apologized to Limbaugh when Obama was president elect when Gingrey had intially criticized Rush for being too hard on those who were conciliatory to Obama after his election should tell you all you need to know. Plus, conservatives when asked who the most influential conservative in the country is, the answer is not John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, or even Eric Cantor but Rush Limbaugh. It wouldn’t be an exaggeration if the Republican party didn’t enable Limbaugh but oh they do and they do it alot.

35 erik_t  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:14:26am

re: #33 Bulworth

Why is Dana beating dead horses and how long has she been beating dead horses?

So she’s got something to piss on.

36 Skip Intro  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:14:32am

re: #27 Vicious Babushka

Limbaugh doesn’t head the GOP. How long will this dead horse be beaten? What is there to condemn?

I have no idea what this crazy woman is talking about. Do you?

37 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:14:48am

re: #30 Ghost of Tom Joad

Somebody please ask the Princess of Dipshitistan who actually does head/lead/represent the GOP. Considering all the elected and wannabe politicos on the GOP side have to kiss his ass and get all their talking points from him…if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck…

It’s a collective of drones all the way down. Move on, nothing to see here.

The rightness of their policies is obvious and needs no leader.
//

38 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:15:51am

re: #32 Kragar (Antichrist )

Fixed my comment to fit in with the current train of bird.

39 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:16:39am

Dana Loesch is a shameless liar. She knows very well how influential Rush Limbaugh is with right wingers and the GOP. She’s not fooling anybody.

40 Kronocide  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:16:40am

re: #20 Skip Intro

Does Rush Limbaugh ever do that? Hannity? Beck?

Wingnuts never apologize, ever. That would require character.

Character is typified by integrity. They have none.

41 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:17:21am

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Seriously, though - what the fuck is wrong with these people? All they had to do was say, “We made a mistake and retract our story about Friends of Hamas,” and it would be over and they’d have salvaged some of their credibility, such as it was.

Instead they’re getting even more unhinged and whiny. Don’t they realize what total losers they look like?

They will never admit to their error. An admission of error is a sign of weakness.

Only unmanly quiche-eating libruls make mistakes and then apologize for it, doncha know?//

42 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:17:48am

Congressman Says Americans Need Guns To Protect The Nation From Sharia Law

Appearing on The Voice of Freedom, Gohmert said he “hoped and prayed” that Congress rejects gun safety legislation, arguing that Americans may need to use the rights guaranteed by the Second Amendment to avoid succumbing to Muslims:

[The Second Amendment] is for our protection and the founders’ quotes make that very very clear and including against a government that would run amuck. We’ve got some people who think Sharia Law should be the law of the land, forget the Constitution. But the guns are there… to make sure all of the rest of the Amendments are followed.

To say nothing about defending ourselves from those bastards who think the Bible should be the law of the land.

43 Kronocide  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:17:57am

re: #26 makeitstop

Legitimate source

Pollak’s chicken fucking is all over the internet.

44 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:18:14am

re: #42 Kragar (Antichrist )

Congressman Says Americans Need Guns To Protect The Nation From Sharia Law

To say nothing about defending ourselves from those bastards who think the Bible should be the law of the land.

Screwy Louie again?

45 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:18:30am

re: #38 Ghost of Tom Joad

Fixed my comment to fit in with the current train of bird.

The bird is the word.

46 geoffm33  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:18:52am

re: #8 Pete Puma

I love it when morons go all in. Can’t wait for the river card on this one…

Thankfully, they are drawing dead.

47 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:19:16am

re: #42 Kragar (Antichrist )

Congressman Says Americans Need Guns To Protect The Nation From Sharia Law

To say nothing about defending ourselves from those bastards who think the Bible should be the law of the land.

How did I know it would be Gohmert?

48 Dr. Matt  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:19:21am

re: #27 Vicious Babushka

What is there to condemn? Limbaugh doesn’t head the GOP. How long will this dead horse be beaten?
— Dana Loesch (@DLoesch) February 21, 2013

She’ll be punished for not calling him by his GOP-given title, “Lord Limbaugh”.

49 geoffm33  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:19:47am

re: #45 Kragar (Antichrist )

The bird is the word.

What?

Youtube Video
50 Lidane  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:20:22am

re: #47 HappyWarrior

How did I know it would be Gohmert?

Because it’s a degree of weapons-grade stupid that’s impressive, even among the other ignorant dipshits in the GOP?

51 GeneJockey  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:20:27am

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Instead they’re getting even more unhinged and whiny. Don’t they realize what total losers they look like?

Their audience is the Wingnut Base. They can NEVER, EVER go wrong by attacking Obama or the Media, because Obama and the Media are always bad. To their base, the only way to look like losers is to admit that Obama and/or the Media were something other than wrong.

52 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:20:45am

I’m back to plucking turds from the DERP list now that TGDN has been totally swarmed by wingnutbots.

53 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:20:59am

re: #50 Lidane

Because it’s a degree of weapons-grade stupid that’s impressive, even among the other ignorant dipshits in the GOP?

Haha, indeed, indeed.

54 OtterQueen  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:21:20am

Thanks, all. I was having a seriously fucked morning and now I’m laughing about chicken fuckers and Rush Limbaugh’s insignificance to the GOP.

=)

55 Kronocide  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:22:13am

re: #35 erik_t

So she’s got something to piss on.

Dana’s go to response is to intellectually drop trou and piss on everything. The epitome of angry conservative, whining about everything.

Tell me more how liberals are angry and whiny Ms Derp.

56 erik_t  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:22:33am

re: #50 Lidane

Because it’s a degree of weapons-grade stupid that’s impressive, even among the other ignorant dipshits in the GOP?

There are members of congress that are at least as crazy as Gohmert (hugs and kisses, Michelle! Miss you, Alan!). There are none so very nearly brain-dead.

57 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:22:49am

Gawker’s Max Read: ‘Friends of Hamas’ story proof that right wing lives in ‘complete bubble’

On Wednesday night’s edition of Current TV’s “The Young Turks,” host Cenk Uygur welcomed Gawker.com writer Max Read for a discussion about the right wing media frenzy sparked by the “Friends of Hamas” canard that nearly derailed the confirmation of Defense Secretary nominee Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE).

What began as an offhand joke by New York Daily News reporter Dan Friedman quickly escalated into a feeding frenzy in the hands of Breitbart.com editor Ben Shapiro.

Uygur pointed out that it wasn’t just conservative websites that ran with the story, but even Fox News took to the rumor, which was begun when Friedman asked an unnamed Senate staffer about the Hagel confirmation and was offhandedly making up the names of possible controversial groups that the senator could have ties to, like “Junior League of Hezbollah in France” he said, or “Friends of Hamas.”

58 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:23:04am

re: #55 Kronocide

Dana’s go to response is to intellectually drop trou and piss on everything. The epitome of angry conservative, whining about everything.

Tell me more how liberals are angry and whiny Ms Derp.

She’s in a steaming rage because GLOBUL WARMING has fucked up her travel plans.

59 Lidane  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:23:16am

re: #45 Kragar (Antichrist )

The bird is the word.

[Link: www.dailymotion.com…]

60 Dr. Matt  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:23:24am

Dana Loesch epitomizes modern conservatism: a politically correct, professional victim.

61 gwangung  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:23:50am

re: #27 Vicious Babushka

Make up your (alleged) mind, kid. If there are folks enabling the “Rush is the GOP head”, then it’s NOT a dead horse, is it?

62 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:25:29am
63 jaunte  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:25:41am
64 Bulworth  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:25:50am

re: #42 Kragar (Antichrist )

As often as they mention it, as much as they claim to fear it, I’m starting to wonder if certain Republicans in Congress want Sharia law in Amercia. Perhaps even many of today’s GOP are themselves behind the movement to impose Sharia law. They seem so certain said movement actually exists. In fact, I have in my hand a list of signatories to a secret group known as Friends of Sharia Law in Amercia. And I have great concerns about this list. Perhaps Louie and his GOP buds could demonstrate conclusively that they aren’t on this list.

65 alinuxguru  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:26:18am

I have never seen the not so bright brats cling to a conspiracy so desperately. Why, they even got over Agenda 21 and unskewed polls faster than this. Are they running out of conspiracies? Come on….I can make up conspiracies….I once saw Hagel take two hundred bucks out of an ATM. Can Chuck prove that $200 did not come from Osama Bin Laden?

66 Shvaughn  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:26:26am

Good morning (it’s still morning in California), lizards.

67 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:26:42am

re: #63 jaunte

Ok, listen, I was never friends of Hamas. We were just at summer camp together and were young & experimental. That’s it.

This one time, at Hamas camp….I will say no more.

68 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:28:04am

Robertson Dismisses ‘Nutty,’ ‘True Believer’ Climate Scientists

Televangelist Pat Robertson has, like so many on the Right, turned very quickly from advocating awareness of climate change to denying that it exists at all. On today’s 700 Club, Robertson laughs off a recent Princeton University study that found that climate change is increasing the rate of blizzards while leading to a drop in total snowfall.

Without a hint of self-awareness, Robertson claims that climate scientists are simply elitist ideologues who will hold onto their beliefs in global warming no matter what.

“Only in Princeton would people say nutty things like that,” Robertson said. “You know, they get to be PhDs and they wonder where they’ve studied and learned all these things. But I tell you, if you’re a true believer bad things will happen because you see them coming.”

69 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:28:08am

OK.

70 erik_t  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:28:17am

re: #67 Ghost of Tom Joad

This one time, at Hamas camp….I will say no more.

Pray away the Hamas. Nobody is born Hamas.

71 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:28:22am

re: #64 Bulworth

As often as they mention it, as much as they claim to fear it, I’m starting to wonder if certain Republicans in Congress want Sharia law in Amercia. Perhaps even many of today’s GOP are themselves behind the movement to impose Sharia law. They seem so certain said movement actually exists. In fact, I have in my hand a list of signatories to a secret group known as Friends of Sharia Law in Amercia. And I have great concerns about this list. Perhaps Louie and his GOP buds could demonstrate conclusively that they aren’t on this list.

You just took the “Friends of Imposing Bible Law” list and changed one word in the heading. You’re not fooling anyone.

72 OtterQueen  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:28:58am

Googling “chicken fucker” wasn’t nearly as bad as I thought…


Chicken Fuckers

73 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:30:01am

re: #72 OtterQueen

Googling “chicken fucker” wasn’t nearly as bad as I thought…

Chicken Fuckers

Turn off safe search.

74 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:30:39am

Is there anyone still alive from the “Friends of Carlotta” list? And, if so, are they still interested in cheese?

;)

75 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:30:51am

re: #68 Kragar (Antichrist )

Robertson Dismisses ‘Nutty,’ ‘True Believer’ Climate Scientists

This is coming from a man who takes a 2000 year old book word for word.

76 Kronocide  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:31:07am

The spin is in:

Dan Friedman, the New York Daily News reporter who claimed today to be the original source for the accusation, has now admitted that the Feb. 7 story by Breitbart News’ Ben Shapiro, which merely reported the allegation, was accurate as written.

Despite the fun mocking Breitbart, who is the senate staffer that forwarded Friedman’s email to Shapiro?

77 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:31:15am

re: #72 OtterQueen

Googling “chicken fucker” wasn’t nearly as bad as I thought…

Chicken Fuckers

How does that old saying go?

“I’m not the chicken fucker, I’m the chicken fucker’s son…”

78 klys  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:31:31am

re: #68 Kragar (Antichrist )

Robertson Dismisses ‘Nutty,’ ‘True Believer’ Climate Scientists

You know, I’m fairly certain that by the time one gets to be a Ph.D., one is quite aware of where they studied and learned all those things. And also the process that went into it. And the scientific method.

There is a reason I stopped identifying as Christian a long time ago, and people like him are a huge part of it.

79 Interesting Times  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:32:20am

re: #78 klys

You know, I’m fairly certain that by the time one gets to be a Ph.D., one is quite aware of where they studied and learned all those things. And also the process that went into it. And the scientific method.

There is a reason I stopped identifying as Christian a long time ago, and people like him are a huge part of it.

80 jaunte  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:32:21am

Surprise: Chuck Grassley doesn’t understand the Constitution.

Top GOP Senator: Native American Juries Are Incapable Of Trying White People Fairly

81 BongCrodny  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:32:28am

I wouldn’t consider myself a “friend of Hamas,” but given that it’s caused Pollak and Shapiro to shit themselves uncontrollably, you could probably call me a friend of friends of Hamas.

82 Shvaughn  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:32:58am

re: #78 klys

There is a reason I stopped identifying as Christian a long time ago, and people like him are a huge part of it.

I resumed identifying as Christian in part because it makes people such as him so angry when someone like me claims to be one.

83 jaunte  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:33:38am

re: #81 BongCrodny

Any minute now the Riders of Rohan are going to show up and save the Breitbarts from this embarrassment.

84 makeitstop  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:34:02am

re: #76 Kronocide

The spin is in:

Despite the fun mocking Breitbart, who is the senate staffer that forwarded Friedman’s email to Shapiro?

We’ll never know. Friedman isn’t going to spill those beans.

85 lawhawk  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:34:07am

Who says the GOP isn’t for the sequester (despite their bleating that they want to blame Obama for it - and after flip-flopping all the way back to when it was enacted into law by Congress and the President as a way to get both sides to agree on a path to a sustainable budget deal).

They are. And some are starting to admit it openly including a former candidate for President (and former US Senator):

86 klys  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:34:12am

re: #82 Hippocracy (rule by horses)

I resumed identifying as Christian in part because it makes people such as him so angry when someone like me claims to be one.

If I still embraced the Christian belief system, I might. :)

87 geoffm33  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:34:26am

re: #69 Vicious Babushka

“This has never happened. @Drudge crashed our website.” - @RushLimbaugh just now.

Honestly, Rush doesn’t have his site serving cached pages from redundant servers? I’m just a rinky-dink online retailer and my site is served from hundreds of servers around the world.

88 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:34:36am

re: #81 BongCrodny

I wouldn’t consider myself a “friend of Hamas,” but given that it’s caused Pollak and Shapiro to shit themselves uncontrollably, you could probably call me a friend of friends of Hamas

The imaginary made-up enemy of my completely ignorant enemy is my make-believe friend./

89 Skip Intro  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:35:14am

re: #47 HappyWarrior

How did I know it would be Gohmert?

Because it didn’t say Senator, since then it would be Cruz.

90 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:35:16am

re: #80 jaunte

Surprise: Chuck Grassley doesn’t understand the Constitution.

Top GOP Senator: Native American Juries Are Incapable Of Trying White People Fairly

I bet he’s so outraged about minority defendants who are tried by mostly or all withe juries all the time.

91 darthstar  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:35:17am

re: #85 lawhawk

Fred Thompson - watching Americans suffer for fun and profit. Fucking chicken fucker.

92 Bulworth  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:35:36am

re: #85 lawhawk

Alright, who woke Fred up?

93 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:35:52am

re: #89 Skip Intro

Because it didn’t say Senator, since then it would be Cruz.

Still could have been Bachmann, King, etc. I guessed Gohmert because he’s got the Shariah paranoia worst of any sitting Congressmember though.

94 Shvaughn  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:36:09am

re: #86 klys

If I still embraced the Christian belief system, I might. :)

I found there’s a wide variety within Christian thought, wider than I’d been taught when growing up.

95 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:36:36am

re: #85 lawhawk

Who says the GOP isn’t for the sequester (despite their bleating that they want to blame Obama for it - and after flip-flopping all the way back to when it was enacted into law by Congress and the President as a way to get both sides to agree on a path to a sustainable budget deal).

They are. And some are starting to admit it openly including a former candidate for President (and former US Senator):

Yeah from a man who won’t have to suffer at all any of the negative consequences.

96 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:37:27am

re: #80 jaunte

Surprise: Chuck Grassley doesn’t understand the Constitution.

Top GOP Senator: Native American Juries Are Incapable Of Trying White People Fairly

That was the topic of some debate at the end of the previous thread.

97 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:37:55am

re: #91 darthstar

Fred Thompson - watching Americans suffer for fun and profit. Fucking chicken fucker.

“Would you care to hear about our reverse mortgages whilst I attempt to fuck this chicken?” /Fred

98 Gus  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:38:26am

re: #80 jaunte

Surprise: Chuck Grassley doesn’t understand the Constitution.

Top GOP Senator: Native American Juries Are Incapable Of Trying White People Fairly

He didn’t say “white people.” That title could be re-written as “Top GOP Senator: Native American Juries Are Incapable Of Trying Chines People Fairly” He said “Non-Native-American” which can include white people. It’s misleading.

99 CriticalDragon1177  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:39:56am

Charles Johnson

Breitbrat.com shows us once again how little they are willing to accept reality.

100 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:40:40am

Last I heard of Fred Thompson he was peddling reverse mortgages.

101 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:41:15am

National Review Blogger Calls for Repeal of Women’s Suffrage

Nevertheless, you’re on to something I’ve been advocating for years now. And that is the repeal of all four of the so-called “Progressive Era” amendments, including the 16th, 17th, 18th and 19th, which were passed between 1911 and 1920.
…
The income-tax amendment was a self-evident attack on capitalism and led to the explosive growth of the federal government we currently enjoy today. (Without it, there’d be no need for a Balanced Budget Amendment.) Direct elections of senators has given us, among other wonders, the elevation of John F. Kerry to, now, secretary of state. Prohibition was directly responsible for the rise of organized crime and itsunholy alliance with the big-city Democratic machines. And women’s suffrage … well, let’s just observe that without it Barack Obama could never have become president. Time for the ladies to take one for the team.

102 OtterQueen  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:41:59am

re: #73 Ghost of Tom Joad

Turn off safe search.

Huh. It takes me to breitbart.com.

103 CriticalDragon1177  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:42:32am

re: #22 Vicious Babushka

He’s Not? Who knew :)

104 Kronocide  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:42:39am

Winner of the Pew Pew Pew Pew Merica Award for March, 2013.

105 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:42:42am

The wingnuts keep pounding this meme “ONLY AN AR-15 CAN STOP A RAPIST!1!” they are having fantasies of Scarlett O’Hara blowing holes through swarms of emancipated cotton pickers.

They have no explanation for a rapist that the victim knows and trusts.

106 erik_t  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:42:50am

re: #101 Kragar (Antichrist )

National Review Blogger Calls for Repeal of Women’s Suffrage

What GOP war on women?

107 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:42:57am

re: #101 Kragar (Antichrist )

National Review Blogger Calls for Repeal of Women’s Suffrage

My first instinct was to call this guy a douchebag, but on second though I don’t think the sentiment would be strong enough.

108 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:43:44am

re: #104 Kronocide

Winner of the Pew Pew Pew Pew Merica Award for March, 2013.

That chinstrap deserves a medal for its heroic effort.

109 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:44:09am

re: #101 Kragar (Antichrist )

National Review Blogger Calls for Repeal of Women’s Suffrage

Remind me again why NR should be treated as a reasonable conservative publication when they’re pushing the repeal of suffrage rights? Yeah “take one for the team”, that’s not taking one for the team, that’s taking away someone’s constitutional rights because you’re angry that women don’t accept right wing bullshit.

110 CriticalDragon1177  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:44:11am

re: #94 Hippocracy (rule by horses)

I found there’s a wide variety within Christian thought, wider than I’d been taught when growing up.

I know. People need to remember that its not just the religious right comprises Christianity, just like its not the Taliban that comprises all of Islam.

111 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:44:18am

re: #101 Kragar (Antichrist )

National Review Blogger Calls for Repeal of Women’s Suffrage

“And we would’ve gotten away with it too if it wasn’t for all you meddling women!”

I don’t even…

112 klys  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:44:43am

re: #105 Vicious Babushka

The wingnuts keep pounding this meme “ONLY AN AR-15 CAN STOP A RAPIST!1!” they are having fantasies of Scarlett O’Hara blowing holes through swarms of emancipated cotton pickers.

They have no explanation for a rapist that the victim knows and trusts.

Or how the woman knows that they are about to be raped. Or how they can prove this to the police as a shooting in self-defense afterwards, and why they are supposed to trust the police to get it right the when it’s so hard to get them to believe that they’ve been raped after the fact now.

113 CriticalDragon1177  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:45:05am

re: #109 HappyWarrior

Remind me again why NR should be treated as a reasonable conservative publication when they’re pushing the repeal of suffrage rights? Yeah “take one for the team”, that’s not taking one for the team, that’s taking away someone’s constitutional rights because you’re angry that women don’t accept right wing bullshit.

Sexism is alive and well.

114 Skip Intro  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:45:35am

re: #107 Eclectic Cyborg (formerly dragonfire1981)

My first instinct was to call this guy a douchebag, but on second though I don’t think the sentiment would be strong enough.

It might be Ann Coulter.

115 Gus  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:46:41am

re: #101 Kragar (Antichrist )

National Review Blogger Calls for Repeal of Women’s Suffrage

Checks for satire tag. Nope, can’t find one. Why in the world would they support such a nutty idea. No, wait. The author.

In January, 2010, in collaboration with the late Andrew Breitbart, he launched BigJournalism.com, devoted to media commentary and criticism. He now writes a weekly opinion column for the New York Post, and in late June 2012 became a featured columnist at PJ Media.

116 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:47:04am

re: #109 HappyWarrior

Remind me again why NR should be treated as a reasonable conservative publication when they’re pushing the repeal of suffrage rights? Yeah “take one for the team”, that’s not taking one for the team, that’s taking away someone’s constitutional rights because you’re angry that women don’t accept right wing bullshit.

According to the 2nd Amendment, a women is well within her rights to shoot anyone who tries to make her take one for the team.
/

117 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:47:11am

re: #109 HappyWarrior

Remind me again why NR should be treated as a reasonable conservative publication when they’re pushing the repeal of suffrage rights? Yeah “take one for the team”, that’s not taking one for the team, that’s taking away someone’s constitutional rights because you’re angry that women don’t accept right wing bullshit.

According to some, about 1 out of every 100 of their articles isn’t dripping with racism, misogyny, our outright stupidity, therefore should be taken seriously. I’ve seen some doozies lately, but there’s something wrong with that guy. Chicken must have turned him down.

118 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:47:19am

PEOPLE WITH GUNZ ARE TEH VICTIMZ!!!111!!!


119 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:47:31am

re: #98 Gus

He didn’t say “white people.” That title could be re-written as “Top GOP Senator: Native American Juries Are Incapable Of Trying Chines People Fairly” He said “Non-Native-American” which can include white people. It’s misleading.

The title is outright dishonest, the content of the article isn’t much better. Grassly is correct that the Supreme court ruled that tribal courts don’t provide the same Constitutional guarantees that US courts do.

120 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:47:35am

When you have to advocate that a large group, hell the largest group of voters lose to their suffrage rights for your side to succeed. Maybe, just maybe your ideology has some big problems with it.This is the NR’s madness. It’s not how can we make the Republican party/conservatism more palatable to women, it’s “Sorry women but because you favored Obama and resulted in his presidency, we have to take away your suffrage rights.” That’s a very authoritarian way of looking at hings frankly.

121 kirkspencer  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:47:42am

re: #98 Gus

He didn’t say “white people.” That title could be re-written as “Top GOP Senator: Native American Juries Are Incapable Of Trying Chines People Fairly” He said “Non-Native-American” which can include white people. It’s misleading.

I think you’re straining at gnats here, Gus, given his track record and the rest of his comments about the jury reflecting “society as a whole.”

122 Gus  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:47:52am

He went on to say:

And women’s suffrage … well, let’s just observe that without it Barack Obama could never have become president. Time for the ladies to take one for the team.

Who’s with me?

123 Gus  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:48:13am

re: #121 kirkspencer

I think you’re straining at gnats here, Gus, given his track record and the rest of his comments about the jury reflecting “society as a whole.”

Nothing further to add.

124 Gus  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:48:32am

re: #119 Killgore Trout

The title is outright dishonest, the content of the article isn’t much better. Grassly is correct that the Supreme court ruled that tribal courts don’t provide the same Constitutional guarantees that US courts do.

Yep. Let’s leave it at that.

125 iossarian  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:49:11am

re: #119 Killgore Trout

The title is outright dishonest, the content of the article isn’t much better. Grassly is correct that the Supreme court ruled that tribal courts don’t provide the same Constitutional guarantees that US courts do.

I leave you with the words of the Senator himself:

But under the laws of our land, you got to have a jury that is a reflection of society as a whole, and on an Indian reservation, it’s going to be made up of Indians, right? So the non-Indian doesn’t get a fair trial.

Argue with that, not with the (purported) spin.

126 Skip Intro  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:49:29am

re: #118 Vicious Babushka

I take it Dana hasn’t found a new job yet.

127 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:49:31am

re: #119 Killgore Trout

The title is outright dishonest, the content of the article isn’t much better. Grassly is correct that the Supreme court ruled that tribal courts don’t provide the same Constitutional guarantees that US courts do.

If you’re talking about the case you linked in the last thread, I don’t think you’re interpreting that correctly. All that’s needed for tribal courts to try non-Indians is Congressional approval. VAWA would provide that.

128 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:49:49am

Yeah, because a different airline is totally not affected by massive snowstorm. DERP. FAIL.

129 Kronocide  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:49:59am

re: #108 Kragar (Antichrist )

That chinstrap deserves a medal for its heroic effort.

Keep back. It could blow at any moment.

130 Gus  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:50:03am

Once again reason goes out the window. Bye.

131 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:50:34am

Obama: Republicans Care Most About Protecting The Rich

“Their basic view is that nothing is important enough to raise taxes on wealthy individuals or corporations,” Obama said in a portion of the interview that was played on MSNBC. “And they would prefer to see these kinds of cuts that could slow down our recovery over closing tax loopholes.”

132 Shvaughn  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:51:07am

re: #130 Gus

Once again reason goes out the window. Bye.

I don’t get what just happened here.

133 Bulworth  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:51:16am

re: #101 Kragar (Antichrist )

So this is the conservative party, the party that would rip up a hundred years of settled law, not to mention a hundred years of cultural development?

134 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:51:59am

re: #133 Bulworth

So this is the conservative party, the party that would rip up a hundred years of settled law, not to mention a hundred years of cultural development?

Everything has gone to hell since the Enlightenment!
/

135 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:52:22am

re: #132 Hippocracy (rule by horses)

I don’t get what just happened here.

I think he snuffed his own short fuse. That’s one way of dealing with things.

136 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:52:41am

DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?

137 Shvaughn  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:52:52am

re: #119 Killgore Trout

The title is outright dishonest, the content of the article isn’t much better.

It always amuses me when Trout complains about what he sees as dishonest reporting.

138 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:52:55am

re: #135 wrenchwench

I think he snuffed his own short fuse. That’s one way of dealing with things.

It is hard to tell what he’s responding to, though….

139 klys  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:53:27am

re: #137 Hippocracy (rule by horses)

It always amuses me when Trout complains about what he sees as dishonest reporting.

I just sort of figure, who better to know?

140 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:53:35am

re: #136 Vicious Babushka

DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?

Why do you think they haven’t called back?

141 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:54:00am

re: #133 Bulworth

So this is the conservative party, the party that would rip up a hundred years of settled law, not to mention a hundred years of cultural development?

Well I’ve been describing them more reactionary than conservative as of late. Whereas the conservative is merely wary of change especially rapid change, the reactionary wants to go back to the past and quickly. This is a good example of that. Women need to take one for the team because women having the ability to vote caused Barack Obama to be president. Now, can you imagine the outrage even if suggested as a joke that men should lose suffrage because if not for male voters we would have never had George W. Bush for two terms.

142 Shvaughn  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:54:18am

re: #135 wrenchwench

I think he snuffed his own short fuse. That’s one way of dealing with things.

I guess. As of yesterday he was in a lot of physical pain so that could be a contributing factor. It just seemed like a normal disagreement was going on, not something that would require leaving.

I hope Gus is feeling better later today.

143 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:55:45am

GOP Senators Urge Obama To Drop Hagel Nomination

A group of Republican senators on Thursday sent President Obama a letter, urging him to withdraw the nomination of Chuck Hagel for defense secretary.

“It would be unprecedented for a Secretary of Defense to take office without the broad base of bipartisan support and confidence needed to serve effectively in this critical position,” the senators wrote. “Over the last half-century, no Secretary of Defense has been confirmed and taken office with more than three Senators voting against him. Further, in the history of this position, none has ever been confirmed with more than 11 opposing votes. The occupant of this critical office should be someone whose candidacy is neither controversial nor divisive.”

Sens. John Cornyn (R-TX), Jim Inhofe (R-OK), Lindsey Graham (R-SC), Roger Wicker (R-MS), David Vitter (R-LA), Ted Cruz (R-TX), Mike Lee (R-UT), Pat Toomey (R-PA), Marco Rubio (R-FL), Dan Coats (R-IN), Ron Johnson (R - WI), Jim Risch (R-ID), John Barrasso (R-WY), Tom Coburn (R-OK) and Tim Scott (R-SC) signed the letter to the President.

Dear Senators,

Go eat a bag of dicks, you obstructionist partisan whores.

144 darthstar  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:56:24am

Okay…this is funny. Guy Fieri’s been taking shit since opening his crap food joint in NYC…but not registering the domain name for your own restaurant? That’s just stupid.

[Link: www.businessinsider.com…]

145 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:56:37am

re: #143 Kragar (Antichrist )

GOP Senators Urge Obama To Drop Hagel Nomination

Dear Senators,

Go eat a bag of dicks, you obstructionist partisan whores.

Yeah drop the Hagel nomination so they can shit on Obama’s next Defense Secretary designee and call him or her a Hamas sympathizer.

146 iossarian  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:57:00am

re: #143 Kragar (Antichrist )

GOP Senators Urge Obama To Drop Hagel Nomination

Dear Senators,

Go eat a bag of dicks, you obstructionist partisan whores.

HE PICKED A FUCKING REPUBLICAN

I hope he ditches Hagel and comes back with a black lesbian paraplegic who’s voted democratic socialist every year since 1963.

147 klys  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:57:45am

re: #143 Kragar (Antichrist )

I missed the part where the losers get to dictate who the president nominates. Apparently.

148 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:57:52am

re: #143 Kragar (Antichrist )

GOP Senators Urge Obama To Drop Hagel Nomination

Dear Senators,

Go eat a bag of dicks, you obstructionist partisan whores.

You know, if Obama came out against eating bags of dicks…you just might get your wish.

149 iossarian  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:57:58am

Memo to Republicans. If a photo exists in which you are exchanging pleasantries with the blackity-black president, your hopes for high office are OVAH.

150 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:58:24am

National Review Blogger Calls for Repeal of Women’s Suffrage

So this is never going to happen. Why do people like this feel the ned to engage in political grandstanding, like repeatedly trying to repeal ACA or passing laws against Sharia or making it illegal to enforce or advance gun control legislation?

151 Bulworth  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:59:09am

re: #141 HappyWarrior

It’s telling that they essentially believe the past 100 years of legislation establishing some measure of income security and safety in our industrial workplaces and food supplies has all been a tragic mistake, a “war on capitalism”. Insane.

152 Blue Point  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:59:11am

re: #143 Kragar (Antichrist )

But how do you really feel? /

153 Skip Intro  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:59:36am

re: #146 iossarian

HE PICKED A FUCKING REPUBLICAN

I hope he ditches Hagel and comes back with a black lesbian paraplegic who’s voted democratic socialist every year since 1963.

Yes, but that Republican criticized the Great God Bush. That’s what’s inflamed the hemorrhoids of Senator I Chose Sarah Palin as my VP.

154 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:59:37am

re: #150 Sol Berdinowitz

So this will never ever happen, Why do these assholes feel the need to engage in this sort of political grandstanding?

The same reason they try to pass Obamacare repeals with the signer of said law in office? So they can go to their base when most of them are inevitably challenged for not being right wing enough and say “See I took on the evil one!”

155 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:00:06pm

re: #152 Mongo only pawn… in game of life.

But how do you really feel? /

That would probably get him banned. :- (It’d get me canned lol)

156 stabby  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:01:53pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

They’re morons and the fact that they’re too stupid to be in journalism, the fact that everything they say blows up their faces is finally wearing on them.

I would have thought they’d be used to it by now.

157 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:02:37pm

Dear Orly,
I signed your petition 6 times, as Seymour Butz, Haywood Jabloamey, Adam Baum, Jack Miyoff, I.P. Daly, and Herbie Hind.

158 Skip Intro  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:02:46pm

re: #136 Vicious Babushka

DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?

Also @AmericanAir after your phone system said it’d take our # and call back, it never did. We’ve been doing this since 8am. Have had enough

Dispatch a plane for me immediately! I used to work for Breitbart!

159 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:03:02pm

re: #154 HappyWarrior

The same reason they try to pass Obamacare repeals with the signer of said law in office? So they can go to their base when most of them are inevitably challenged for not being right wing enough and say “See I took on the evil one!”

When Jan Brewer did the finger-in-the-face thing to Obama, my wingnut relatives wet themselves with joy over it. I swear it’s like they felt the forces of good struck a mighty blow against the evil tyrant. Obstructing the black guy (that he’s the President Elect means dick to them) is all they care about.

160 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:03:06pm

re: #119 Killgore Trout

The title is outright dishonest, the content of the article isn’t much better. Grassly is correct that the Supreme court ruled that tribal courts don’t provide the same Constitutional guarantees that US courts do.

No, it is not dishonest. Grassley said, “The non-Indian doesn’t get a fair trial.” White men are “non-Indians.” Therefore they are included in the set that Grassley described.

It’s simple logic.

161 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:03:08pm

re: #151 Bulworth

It’s telling that they essentially believe the past 100 years of legislation establishing some measure of income security and safety in our industrial workplaces and food supplies has all been a tragic mistake, a “war on capitalism”. Insane.

Yes, that’s pretty telling. Life is a lot better than it was in 1913 and it’s in large part due to the Progressive Era and subsequent legislation that was inspired by that era. Really as I said, whereas a normal conservative merely is wary of rapid change, these folks want to return to the past, a past where workers have no organizing rights, no real benefits, and no real expectation of safety on the job. Scares the crap out of me.

162 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:03:39pm

Black Nebraska lawmaker shames Republicans: Jesus ‘looked more like me than you all’

Sen. Ernie Chambers (I) shut down the legislative process for hours on Wednesday with his filibuster of Christensen’s Legislative Bill 52, which allows inmates at the McCook Work Ethic Camp to provide labor for “any charitable, fraternal, or nonprofit corporation.”

During his hours-long filibuster, Chambers blasted former Republican Lt. Gov. Rick Sheehy, who recently resigned after a paper revealed that he had made thousands of phone calls to women who were not his wife. Chambers was also critical of the Nebraska attorney general because he let former Sen. Brenda Council (D) off with a misdemeanor after she gambled more than $63,000 in campaign funds at casinos.

“Sheehy and Council commit crimes but aren’t charged,” Chambers said, noting that “some scruffy person” would not be so lucky, according to the Nebraska Watchdog.

“Why shouldn’t Sheehy be sentenced to do some free labor?” he wondered. “It would teach him good work habits, and it would let him know that crime of any kind doesn’t pay.”

Chambers — who once sued God for causing “fearsome floods, egregious earthquakes, horrendous hurricanes, terrifying tornadoes, pestilential plagues, ferocious famines, devastating droughts, genocidal wars, birth defects, and the like” — continued his filibuster by going after the hypocrisy of Republican Christians because they had “taken people’s wives” and “shiver of shivers, engaged in homosexuality.”

At one point, Chambers noted that Jesus “looked more like me than you all.”

The state senator observed that the Mafia had higher standards than the Catholic Church because if made men were “raping children, they’d off them.”

163 Blue Point  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:05:15pm

re: #155 Ghost of Tom Joad

That would probably get him banned. :- (It’d get me canned lol)

Oh I know just how he and you feel. Then you have the Amoebas and Paramecium who vote for these hyenas.

164 engineer cat  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:05:22pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Seriously, though - what the fuck is wrong with these people? All they had to do was say, “We made a mistake and retract our story about Friends of Hamas,” and it would be over and they’d have salvaged some of their credibility, such as it was.

Instead they’re getting even more unhinged and whiny. Don’t they realize what total losers they look like?

they never heard of ‘admitting you made an error is adult behavior and enhances your credibility’

165 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:06:36pm

re: #143 Kragar (Antichrist )

GOP Senators Urge Obama To Drop Hagel Nomination

Dear Senators,

Go eat a bag of dicks, you obstructionist partisan whores.

Thing the GOP would get farther if they’d just be outright honest and admit that they don’t think Obama won legitimately and so believe it leaves them in any position to make demands. Because based upon the evidence so far, they’re not going to be happy unless Obama nominates a Muslim-hating warhawk whose views are in direct contrast to his own.

166 Shvaughn  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:06:56pm

re: #164 engineer cat

they never heard of ‘admitting you made an error is adult behavior and enhances your credibility’

Neither have some regular commenters here, though.

167 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:07:23pm

re: #160 Charles Johnson

No, it is not dishonest. Grassley said, “The non-Indian doesn’t get a fair trial.” White men are “non-Indians.” Therefore they are included in the set that Grassley described.

It’s simple logic.

If anyone read the article and not the headline:

There is actually no requirement that juries reflect “society as a whole.” The Sixth Amendment requires juries to be drawn from the “State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed,” and Supreme Court decisions establish that criminal defendants also have a right to a jury which is “drawn from a fair cross section of the community,” where the trial court convenes to hear their case. But this does not entitle anyone to be tried by a jury that reflects the whole of American society.

A person who is tried in Vermont is likely to have an all-white jury because over 95 percent of Vermont is white. Similarly, a person who commits a crime in the Navajo Nation will face a jury of Native Americans because the population of the local community is made up of Navajo people. There is no reason to believe that Navajo jurors are any less impartial than white Vermonters, and Grassley is wrong to suggest otherwise.

168 Charles Johnson  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:09:07pm

And by the way, Grassley’s statement clearly indicates that he’s talking about a hypothetical white man who goes onto a reservation and rapes a Native American woman.

169 stabby  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:09:21pm

re: #157 Vicious Babushka

upding.

You should try each of the joke names from Car Talk:

[Link: www.cartalk.com…]

170 klys  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:10:15pm

re: #167 Kragar (Antichrist )

If anyone read the article and not the headline:

But, but, some vague objection that I will couch as being due to the fact that he never mentioned the word white but refuse to address in discussion with other people and pretend has everything to do with reason!

// sort of. The passive-aggressiveness of some of the arguments is getting old.

171 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:11:21pm

Jon Huntsman Endorses Marriage Equality: ‘We Must Demand Equality Under The Law For All Americans’

And there goes any chance of him being elected again under the current GOP rules of engagement.

172 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:11:25pm

A jury is supposed to be composed of people reflecting “society as a whole”? I’m sure that will come as a surprise to minorities facing all-white juries.

173 b_sharp  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:11:56pm

re: #98 Gus

He didn’t say “white people.” That title could be re-written as “Top GOP Senator: Native American Juries Are Incapable Of Trying Chines People Fairly” He said “Non-Native-American” which can include white people. It’s misleading.

This what Grassley said “…you got to have a jury that is a reflection of society as a whole…”


US 2010 Demographics From here

72.4% are white.
The title was a bit over the top but not inaccurate.

BTW, I’m posting from the middle of a First Nations reserve, otherwise known as an Indian Reservation.

174 klys  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:12:06pm

re: #171 Kragar (Antichrist )

Jon Huntsman Endorses Marriage Equality: ‘We Must Demand Equality Under The Law For All Americans’

And there goes any chance of him being elected again under the current GOP rules of engagement.

Sadly, yes. But good for him anyway. He was the one Republican candidate who I would have given serious consideration.

175 Shvaughn  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:12:07pm

re: #172 Targetpractice

A jury is supposed to be composed of people reflecting “society as a whole”? I’m sure that will come as a surprise to minorities facing all-white juries.

Yeah but someone on a website wrote “white” in the headline, so stop talking about this now!!!

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176 stabby  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:12:08pm

re: #165 Targetpractice

Thing the GOP would get farther if they’d just be outright honest and admit that they don’t think Obama won legitimately and so believe it leaves them in any position to make demands. Because based upon the evidence so far, they’re not going to be happy unless Obama nominates a Muslim-hating warhawk whose views are in direct contrast to his own.

Oh that would help. I think they only sense that they believe “he didn’t win legitimately” is that black people voted for him. That’s all I hear the base complain about, it’s racism that Black people didn’t vote for insulted-black-people-on-purpose Romney.

Should they explain that too?

177 Blue Point  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:12:23pm

re: #172 Targetpractice

A jury is supposed to be composed of people reflecting “society as a whole”? I’m sure that will come as a surprise to minorities facing all-white juries.

Explains what happened to the Indians.

178 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:12:27pm

re: #171 Kragar (Antichrist )

Jon Huntsman Endorses Marriage Equality: ‘We Must Demand Equality Under The Law For All Americans’

And there goes any chance of him being elected again under the current GOP rules of engagement.

Good for Huntsman.

179 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:12:36pm

re: #168 Charles Johnson

And by the way, Grassley’s statement clearly indicates that he’s talking about a hypothetical white man who goes onto a reservation and rapes a Native American woman.

Why wasn’t this woman hypothetically armed and willing to defend herself? She must have seen the threat coming from miles away.

/

180 EPR-radar  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:14:55pm

re: #174 klys

Sadly, yes. But good for him anyway. He was the one Republican candidate who I would have given serious consideration.

Huntsman is sane. However, he is still a pretty hard-line conservative. E.g., I believe he wants to eliminate the capital gains tax entirely.

181 Shvaughn  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:16:02pm

Okay, I put my name back to normal.

182 klys  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:16:06pm

re: #180 EPR-radar

Huntsman is sane. However, he is still a pretty hard-line conservative. E.g., I believe he wants to eliminate the capital gains tax entirely.

That’s where it was consideration instead of a definite vote for him. ;) However, since there was no chance of him making it out of the primaries, I never really looked.

183 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:17:26pm

re: #181 Shvaughn

Okay, I put my name back to normal.

I was about to say you should have changed it to the Houynyms Hippocracy.

184 dragonath  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:18:41pm

Hypothetically speaking, assuming Bolton had been nominated for Secretary of State, what would the chances be of Democrats blocking his nomination?

185 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:19:01pm

re: #180 EPR-radar

Huntsman is sane. However, he is still a pretty hard-line conservative. E.g., I believe he wants to eliminate the capital gains tax entirely.

I see him being the only type of Conservative at this point that could lead to some sort of revival of the GOP brand, not a guy like Jindal/Rubio/Ryan. Of course, they’ll never vote for him for varying reasons.

186 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:19:24pm

re: #180 EPR-radar

Huntsman is sane. However, he is still a pretty hard-line conservative. E.g., I believe he wants to eliminate the capital gains tax entirely.

EPA too. I wouldn’t have even considered voting for him but I didn’t dislike or lacked respect for him like I did with Romney because he didn’t appeal to the lowest common denominator.

187 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:20:39pm

re: #184 dragonath

Hypothetically speaking, assuming Bolton had been nominated for Secretary of State, what would the chances be of Democrats blocking his nomination?

Pretty high. And the GOP would have had little chance of overturning a filibuster, because several of their own in the Senate had concerns about his nomination as well.

188 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:21:15pm

re: #185 Ghost of Tom Joad

I see him being the only type of Conservative at this point that could lead to some sort of revival of the GOP brand, not a guy like Jindal/Rubio/Ryan. Of course, they’ll never vote for him for varying reasons.

Yeah a guy like him and to some extent Christie are the ones who need to revive the GOP brand not guys like Jindal/Ryan/Rubio. The only reason why those three are seen as part of a GOP revival is because they’re young and don’t come from the patrician background that Romney/McCain/Bush did.

189 EPR-radar  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:21:56pm

re: #186 HappyWarrior

EPA too. I wouldn’t have even considered voting for him but I didn’t dislike or lacked respect for him like I did with Romney because he didn’t appeal to the lowest common denominator.

And that is the GOP’s problem in a nutshell —- strip away the circus act and all that is left is a blatant agenda of benefitting the rich at everyone else’s expense.

190 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:23:08pm

re: #189 EPR-radar

And that is the GOP’s problem in a nutshell —- strip away the circus act and all that is left is a blatant agenda of benefitting the rich at everyone else’s expense.

Yep. Even the more “sane” ones favor policies that would make life really tough for middle and lower class people.

191 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:23:16pm

re: #189 EPR-radar

And that is the GOP’s problem in a nutshell —- strip away the circus act and all that is left is a blatant agenda of benefitting the rich at everyone else’s expense.

So, you support the tyranny of the majority, eh?
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192 A Mom Anon  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:24:37pm

re: #168 Charles Johnson

Several years ago I did some work with an organization that helps the families of Pine Ridge Reservation in South Dakota. There’s a freaking reason that the VAWA needs to include women on reservations. It’s pretty well known that if you are non native man that any crime you commit on a reservation makes it lots easier to get away with. Especially rape and sexual assault. The chances of these crimes happening to native women and girls is much higher than it is outside of the reservation system.

All this aside though, as a country we should be ashamed of the conditions in some of these places. The rates of teen suicide are horrendous, domestic violence, drug and alcohol abuse and unemployment are way above national averages (at least in the Dakotas). At Pine Ridge, there isn’t decent grocery store closer than Rapid City(3 hours away), but just outside of the reservation borders you can’t swing a dead chicken without hitting a liquor store. It’s one of the saddest things I’ve ever encountered.

193 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:25:38pm

WAY TO GO GERMANS!

German bishops approve use of emergency contraception in Catholic hospitals for rape victims

The German Catholic Church ruled Thursday that the use of the morning-after pill was acceptable in certain cases for rape victims.

The German Bishops’ Conference said in a press statement that rape victims treated in Catholic hospitals should “of course receive humane, medical, psychological and pastoral care.”

“The administration of a ‘morning-after pill’ can be part of this so long as it has a preventative and not an abortive effect,” added the bishops.

It seems small, but this is really a big break through in the bigger scheme.

194 engineer cat  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:25:44pm

re: #172 Targetpractice

A jury is supposed to be composed of people reflecting “society as a whole”? I’m sure that will come as a surprise to minorities facing all-white juries.

“a jury of your peers”

this is of course from common law, a body of english law that grew up organically over the centuries after the norman invasion of normal normans

anyway, in the old days “your peers” meant other commoners if you were a commoner, and other aristos if you were a ‘person of quality’

in theory, in the united states of course we are all theoretically equal, so theoretically any group of americans is your peers

in practice, lawyers go to great lengths to get the kind of jury that they think will help them win the case

195 EPR-radar  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:27:23pm

re: #191 Kragar (Antichrist )

So, you support the tyranny of the majority, eh?
////////

Yes. It is telling that RW blather these days often attacks the legitimacy of direct democracy (e.g. opposition to direct election of Senators, which is completely nutty). “republican government” as used by RW pundits is pretty much code words for an aristocracy of the wealthy.

196 Lidane  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:27:32pm

re: #101 Kragar (Antichrist )

National Review Blogger Calls for Repeal of Women’s Suffrage

What right wing sexism?

197 stabby  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:29:15pm

re: #185 Ghost of Tom Joad

I see him being the only type of Conservative at this point that could lead to some sort of revival of the GOP brand, not a guy like Jindal/Rubio/Ryan. Of course, they’ll never vote for him for varying reasons.

Pretty much, but:
1) he’s a white guy who speaks Chinese that smacks too much of education, intelligence, and of not being a white racist.
2) he’s a mormon

But yeah, a less crazy Republican who’s still enough of a bastard to screw the poor is certainly the only type who could lead the Republican party “out of the wilderness” if people were stupid enough to vote for one.

198 engineer cat  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:31:00pm

re: #101 Kragar (Antichrist )

National Review Blogger Calls for Repeal of Women’s Suffrage

i think wimmins has suffrage enuf!

199 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:31:26pm

What’s crazy is Huntsman is seen as some sort of moderate or even liberal Republican. He’s not. He’s still a quite conservative guy but he’s not a total dick about it either.

200 Lidane  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:31:40pm

re: #180 EPR-radar

Huntsman is sane. However, he is still a pretty hard-line conservative. E.g., I believe he wants to eliminate the capital gains tax entirely.

Huntsman couldn’t get out of the single digits in 2012. He got called a Manchurian candidate and a pinko Commie librul for speaking Mandarin and for daring to work with the Seekrit Moozlim Kenyan Usurper in the White House.

If he runs in 2016, expect him to be ignored. Simple GOP logic — they already nominated one rich Mormon and he lost. Why would they nominate another one?

201 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:34:13pm

Yeah when Herman Cain who has never been elected to any position is out-polling a successful two term governor who was also ambassador to the world’s most populated nation, that says a lot about the GOP primary electorate mindset. Anyhow, Huntsman most impressed me in the debates when he didn’t engage in the usual saber-rattling on China. I obviously have no love for the PRC and its policies towards its people but Romney’s attitude really struck me as bellicose.

202 Lidane  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:34:24pm

re: #199 HappyWarrior

What’s crazy is Huntsman is seen as some sort of moderate or even liberal Republican. He’s not. He’s still a quite conservative guy but he’s not a total dick about it either.

Seriously. The guy is just as much of a conservative as anyone else in the GOP. But he worked with Obama, speaks a language that isn’t English, understands foreign affairs, and isn’t a raging dick to people, so he’s somehow a moderate. WTF.

203 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:37:27pm

re: #202 Lidane

Seriously. The guy is just as much of a conservative as anyone else in the GOP. But he worked with Obama, speaks a language that isn’t English, understands foreign affairs, and isn’t a raging dick to people, so he’s somehow a moderate. WTF.

It’s crazy isn’t it? Shit same with Chuck Hagel. Hagel was never a moderate in office. He just got that label because he didn’t like the way the Iraq war was conducted. But newsflash, a lot of conservatives did not.

204 leftynyc  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:38:05pm

re: #101 Kragar (Antichrist )

National Review Blogger Calls for Repeal of Women’s Suffrage

It’s more time for this blogger to go fuck himself.

205 EPR-radar  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:39:12pm

re: #202 Lidane

Seriously. The guy is just as much of a conservative as anyone else in the GOP. But he worked with Obama, speaks a language that isn’t English, understands foreign affairs, and isn’t a raging dick to people, so he’s somehow a moderate. WTF.

This could be dangerous in 2016. A sane GOP nominee who drops the culture war BS in favor of concentrating on screwing over the poor and middle class would likely be seen as some kind of moderate by too many voters, and would have an uncomfortably good chance of winning.

The GOP primary electorate should save us from this possibility.

206 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:39:12pm

re: #193 Kragar (Antichrist )

WAY TO GO GERMANS!

German bishops approve use of emergency contraception in Catholic hospitals for rape victims

It seems small, but this is really a big break through in the bigger scheme.

Wven though Ratzinger himself is a staunch conservative, German Catholics have a tradition of being liberal.

After all it was German Catholics who originally spilt from the church to become the first Protestants.

207 Lidane  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:39:34pm

re: #201 HappyWarrior

Yeah when Herman Cain who has never been elected to any position is out-polling a successful two term governor who was also ambassador to the world’s most populated nation, that says a lot about the electorate mindset.

Seriously. Huntsman’s resume would have made for an interesting race between him and Obama, but the idiots and rubes in the base wanted morons like Cain, Gingrich and Santorum instead. WTF.

Anyhow, Huntsman most impressed me in the debates when he didn’t engage in the usual saber-rattling on China. I obviously have no love for the PRC and its policies towards its people but Romney’s attitude really struck me as bellicose.

Huntsman didn’t just reject the usual bullshit GOP saber rattling on China. He flat out told Mitt Romney he had no fucking clue what he was talking about on stage during a debate. Of course, he said it in Mandarin, but whatevs. The sentiment was there.

It’s hard for the Ambassador to China to pander to the gibbering retards in the GOP base about China, since he actually knew what was going on over there and about our diplomatic efforts.

208 stabby  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:40:40pm

Huntsman would be 90% more popular if he couldn’t speak Chinese.

If he could sound stupid too, he’d be 99% more popular.

209 EPR-radar  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:41:19pm

re: #208 stabby

Huntsman would be 90% more popular if he couldn’t speak Chinese.

If he could sound stupid too, he’d be 99% more popular.

Among the GOP primary electorate.

Stupidity is less useful in the general.

210 stabby  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:44:03pm

that reminds me

Youtube Video
211 biorabbi  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:48:56pm

I heard — from a very reliable friend of a friend — that Hagel’s old Nebraska bumper sticker read: I heart Islamic Jihad/Kreplach Soup sucks….

I’ve sent a detailed letter to Senator Hagel asking him about reports of his pickup truck’s bumper sticker, does he love Islamic Jihad or has he changed him mind, does he hate kreplach soup, and what is his opinion on Mel Brooks.

212 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 12:56:36pm

re: #184 dragonath

Hypothetically speaking, assuming Bolton had been nominated for Secretary of State, what would the chances be of Democrats blocking his nomination?

Hmm, so if Obama would drop Hagel and nominate John Bolton would the RWNJ then proceed to destroy him politically along with GOP Senatorial support? And then Obama could drop him, and pick another nut. How many could he go through before the GOP caught on?
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213 Joanne  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 1:05:30pm

re: #27 Vicious Babushka

Dana Loesch ✔ @DLoesch

What is there to condemn? Limbaugh doesn’t head the GOP. How long will this dead horse be beaten?

I know it is a dead thread but I just hadda.

214 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 2:25:15pm

re: #98 Gus

He didn’t say “white people.” That title could be re-written as “Top GOP Senator: Native American Juries Are Incapable Of Trying Chines People Fairly” He said “Non-Native-American” which can include white people. It’s misleading.

Well, it’s not what he said, but it’s included within it. If you think Native American juries can’t try non-Indians fairly, then you think that Native American juries can’t try white people fairly. So it’s still a true statement.


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