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Apple, Intel, Morgan Stanley to Back Gay Marriage at Supreme Court

“Bans harm morale and undermine recruiting”
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Some of America’s largest corporations, including Apple, Intel, Facebook, and Morgan Stanley, are joining together to argue in favor of same sex marriage at the Supreme Court.

Dozens of companies, including Apple Inc. (AAPL) and Morgan Stanley (MS), are planning to urge the U.S. Supreme Court to legalize same-sex marriage nationwide, saying bans in 41 states harm workplace morale and undermine recruiting.

The group, which also includes Facebook Inc. (FB) and Intel Corp., (INTC) will make its case this week as the high court prepares to take up California’s Proposition 8, the 2008 ballot initiative that halted gay marriage after it was allowed for five months.

“No matter how welcoming the corporate culture, it cannot overcome the societal stigma institutionalized by Proposition 8 and similar laws,” the companies will argue, according to a copy of the brief provided by Orrick Herrington Sutcliffe LLP, the law firm representing the group.

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111 comments

1 Targetpractice  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 3:35:01pm

And come tomorrow, every company testifying favor will have the wingnuts threatening to boycott them.

2 dragonath  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 3:37:36pm
3 jamesfirecat  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 3:38:32pm

re: #1 Targetpractice

And come tomorrow, every company testifying favor will have the wingnuts threatening to boycott them.

But it’s both apple and intel! Are they going to start using Linux computers?

4 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 3:39:12pm

The funniest part is the Nutjobs love saying companies should have a right to fire and discriminate against homosexuals, now they’ll be saying these companies should shut up and not get involved.

5 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 3:40:03pm

I was working for Disney when the Southern Baptists said they were going to boycott Disney. Go ahead and try said Michael Eisner. Disney had one of their best years ever.

Michael Eisner, Disney chairman, called the boycott “ridiculous” and denied it would have any effect on Disney. No effect financially, he said. Eisner denied that Disney was pushing an “anti Christian” or “anti family” agenda. “That’s ridiculous. We’re not pushing any agenda.”

6 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 3:40:40pm

re: #3 jamesfirecat

Only on ARM processors!

7 dragonath  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 3:40:52pm

Gotta say, it’s really refreshing to see people support this. Unthinkable even 5 years ago. The old tropes are getting nailed to the wall.

8 engineer cat  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 3:47:06pm

Apple, Intel, Morgan Stanley to Back

gay persons have just as much right as anybody else to be ruthlessly exploited by large impersonal corporate entities

9 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 3:47:27pm

Where passing means failing

10 engineer cat  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 3:48:35pm

Magnets stick to the fridge because the electrons in the magnet and those in the fridge’s steel exterior are all spinning around in the same direction

thank god bill o’reilly is not around, so we can relax and talk about things like this…

11 sattv4u2  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 3:49:30pm

re: #10 engineer cat

Magnets stick to the fridge because the electrons in the magnet and those in the fridge’s steel exterior are all spinning around in the same direction

thank god bill o’reilly is not around, so we can relax and talk about things like this…

heh,, and here I thought they stuck cause i haven’t cleaned the outside of the fridge in a long long time!!
/

12 engineer cat  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 3:50:12pm

sodomy-based marriage

i will forbear to attempt to describe what bryan fischer’s marriage is based on

13 dragonath  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 3:50:22pm

I’m tired about hearing about the “traditional” right to exercise bigotry. It’s telling that the usual talking points against gay marriage begin by comparing it to something else. Opposition is a losing issue, and they know it.

14 Tigger2  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 3:50:31pm

Of coarse the wingnuts will view this as a conspiracy against them by Corporate America.
They will never see it as Corporations supporting equal rights for Americans.

15 Targetpractice  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 3:51:03pm

re: #9 Kragar (Antichrist )

Where passing means failing

Prediction now: Come 2016, if DOMA has been struck down, reinstating it will be a major issue in GOP primaries.

16 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 3:51:35pm

Suddenly I have a mental image of dominoes falling…

17 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 3:52:35pm

awesome!

18 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 3:53:13pm

re: #8 engineer cat

Apple, Intel, Morgan Stanley to Back

gay persons have just as much right as anybody else to be ruthlessly exploited by large impersonal corporate entities

“Having been married for the last 20 years, I can see no reason why homosexuals shouldn’t suffer like the rest of us.”

19 erik_t  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 3:53:48pm

re: #9 Kragar (Antichrist )

Where passing means failing

Oh you’ve got a problem with sodomy-based marriage, now?

Bryan, telling men that you’re going to outlaw oral sex (40% of men have received oral sex in the last year) and anal sex (another 10%, same source) may not exactly expand your pool of voters.

20 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 3:55:04pm

For Bryan…

21 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 3:55:36pm

re: #19 erik_t

Oh you’ve got a problem with sodomy-based marriage, now?

Bryan, telling men that you’re going to outlaw oral sex (40% of men have received oral sex in the last year) and anal sex (another 10%, same source) may not exactly expand your pool of voters.

I’ve never understood the pre-occupation with other people’s bedroom activities.

22 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 3:55:44pm

CINOs!

23 Charles Johnson  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 3:55:47pm

A quick routine to proportionally scale a rectangle, by passing in either a new width or new height. (Also testing a change in our code formatter…)

<?php

function scale($originalWidth, $originalHeight, $newWidth = FALSE, $newHeight = FALSE) {
$ratio = $originalWidth / $originalHeight;
if ($newWidth) {
$newHeight = round($newWidth / $ratio);
} elseif ($newHeight) {
$newWidth = round($newHeight / $ratio);
} else {
return FALSE;
}
return array($newWidth, $newHeight);
}

$oldWidth = 560;
$oldHeight = 315;
$newWidth = 640;
if ($scaled = scale($oldWidth, $oldHeight, $newWidth)) {
$newWidth = $scaled[0];
$newHeight = $scaled[1];
}
?>

24 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 3:56:22pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

Is this something I need to study? Will there be a test?

25 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 3:56:49pm

re: #24 FemNaziBitch

Is this something I need to study? Will there be a test?

The answer is 47.

26 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 3:57:14pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

A quick routine to proportionally scale a rectangle, by passing in either a new width or new height. (Also testing a change in our code formatter…)

<pre class=”syntax php”><?php<br>function scale($originalWidth, $originalHeight, $newWidth = FALSE, $newHeight = FALSE) {<br> $ratio = $originalWidth / $originalHeight;<br> if ($newWidth) {<br> $newHeight = round($newWidth / $ratio);<br> } elseif ($newHeight) {<br> $newWidth = round($newHeight / $ratio);<br> } else {<br> return FALSE;<br> }<br> return array($newWidth, $newHeight);<br>}</p><p>$oldWidth = 560;<br>$oldHeight = 315;<br>$newWidth = 640;<br>$scaled = scale($oldWidth, $oldHeight, $newWidth);<br>$newWidth = $scaled[0];<br>$newHeight = $scaled[1];<br>?></pre>

Does it come in corn silk blue?

27 Targetpractice  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:00:26pm

re: #24 FemNaziBitch

Is this something I need to study? Will there be a test?

This is the test.

//

28 sattv4u2  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:01:03pm

[Link: news.yahoo.com…]

N.Y. police find dismembered body near Yankee Stadium

Remind me not to buy a hot dog at a Yankees game this year ,, ESPECIALLY from a cart outside of the stadium!!

29 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:01:50pm

I don’t expect all of you to understand but I am constantly amazed at the quirky workings of the writers mind. I’ve been working on this story for awhile, set in the southwest, based on immigration struggles. I have some good characters and I good idea of how I want the end product to flow but I was having a hard time stringing together a strong narrative out of everything.

Then, earlier today while I was in the laundry room of all places, it suddenly came together in my mind. It was like every single piece suddenly fell into place and I felt like a darned fool for not having seen it before.

30 erik_t  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:02:23pm

re: #16 Eclectic Cyborg

Suddenly I have a mental image of dominoes falling…

Control based on irrational fear works best when there is no example of the irrationality clubbing you over the head every day.

Iowa hasn’t imploded yet. New York is still functioning. Life goes on. Only the crazed bigots still care.

31 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:03:04pm

re: #19 erik_t

It’s actually just one man, who gets it a lot, who is skewing the statistics.

32 dragonath  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:03:46pm

Good comment over at macrumors:


Seems to me one of the purposes of marriage is to foster procreation, and last time I checked its impossible for a man to impregnate another man or a woman another woman. If society doesn’t procreate what happens to it?

1) Your assumption about the ‘purpose’ of marriage is incorrect
2) Same-sex couples won’t procreate any more or less if they get married. Same goes for het couples
3) You’re confusing your units of analysis. Society can reproduce itself even if every family unit doesn’t. Fallacy of composition
4) Idle speculation about society not reproducing itself is insignificant when it comes to a contemporary human rights issue which can be easily addressed.

Also, the definition of marriage is whatever people define it to be - there’s no True Definition out there to be discovered.

The only thing the opposition has to offer is fear.

33 sattv4u2  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:03:52pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

to proportionally scale a rectangle

I know how to scale a fish if that helpsre:

#29 Eclectic Cyborg

I was in the laundry room of all places, it suddenly came together in my mind.

Well sure, once the spin cycle stopped you weren’t dizzy anymore

34 Majacita  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:04:11pm

re: #25 Eclectic Cyborg

No, the answer to everything is 42.

35 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:04:42pm

Free Republic has a delightful 100-comment thread, complete with flounces. SE Cupp has dropped out of CPAC in solidarity with GOProud.

CPAC is going to be a hoot this year.

36 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:05:23pm

re: #34 Majacita

No, the answer to everything is 42.

Ahhh! That’s what I meant. I got my numbers mixed up!

37 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:05:49pm

re: #34 Majacita

No, the answer to everything is 42.

Alabama has a 9% sales tax.

38 engineer cat  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:06:09pm

function scale($originalWidth, $originalHeight, $newWidth = FALSE, $newHeight = FALSE) {
$ratio = $originalWidth / $originalHeight;
if ($newWidth) {
$newHeight = round($newWidth / $ratio);
} elseif ($newHeight) {
$newWidth = round($newHeight / $ratio);
} else {
return FALSE;
}
return array($newWidth, $newHeight);
}

$oldWidth = 560;
$oldHeight = 315;
$newWidth = 640;
$scaled = scale($oldWidth, $oldHeight, $newWidth);
$newWidth = $scaled[0];
$newHeight = $scaled[1];

formatted plain code version for ancient pgmrs suffering from a severe case of formatting ocd

39 Targetpractice  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:06:13pm

re: #35 Decatur Deb

Free Republic has a delightful 100-comment thread, complete with flounces. SE Cupp has dropped out of CPAC in solidarity with GOProud.

CPAC is going to be a hoot this year.

At this rate, the “big tent” is gonna be the size of a pup tent.

40 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:07:14pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

A quick routine to proportionally scale a rectangle, by passing in either a new width or new height. (Also testing a change in our code formatter…)

<pre class=”syntax php”><?php<br>function scale($originalWidth, $originalHeight, $newWidth = FALSE, $newHeight = FALSE) {<br> $ratio = $originalWidth / $originalHeight;<br> if ($newWidth) {<br> $newHeight = round($newWidth / $ratio);<br> } elseif ($newHeight) {<br> $newWidth = round($newHeight / $ratio);<br> } else {<br> return FALSE;<br> }<br> return array($newWidth, $newHeight);<br>}</p><p>$oldWidth = 560;<br>$oldHeight = 315;<br>$newWidth = 640;<br>$scaled = scale($oldWidth, $oldHeight, $newWidth);<br>$newWidth = $scaled[0];<br>$newHeight = $scaled[1];<br>?></pre>

I sure hope you are getting paid $80 an hour.

41 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:07:35pm

re: #31 ReamWorks SKG

It’s actually just one man, who gets it a lot, who is skewing the statistics.

[Don Lafontaine]

In a world…without passion…without desire….one man will rise to the occasion…

[/Don Lafontaine]

42 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:07:43pm

If you need help with ratios or algebra, I have a degree in math!

43 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:08:17pm

re: #37 Decatur Deb

Alabama has a 9% sales tax.

Oh. My. G-D.

Sucks to live there. (my son is in Huntsville)

44 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:08:35pm

re: #35 Decatur Deb

Free Republic has a delightful 100-comment thread, complete with flounces. SE Cupp has dropped out of CPAC in solidarity with GOProud.

CPAC is going to be a hoot this year.

45 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:08:38pm

re: #42 ReamWorks SKG

If you need help with ratios or algebra, I have a degree in math!

So what? I do too.

46 engineer cat  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:08:41pm

re: #42 ReamWorks SKG

If you need help with ratios or algebra, I have a degree in math!

from what i see on teevee a degree in meth pays more!

47 kirkspencer  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:09:09pm

re: #29 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t expect all of you to understand but I am constantly amazed at the quirky workings of the writers mind. I’ve been working on this story for awhile, set in the southwest, based on immigration struggles. I have some good characters and I good idea of how I want the end product to flow but I was having a hard time stringing together a strong narrative out of everything.

Then, earlier today while I was in the laundry room of all places, it suddenly came together in my mind. It was like every single piece suddenly fell into place and I felt like a darned fool for not having seen it before.

And that will last till something - perhaps just washing dishes tonight, will remind you that the linchpin holding it all together, won’t work. Fixing it will require pretending it doesn’t matter or some odd and frustrating kludge that threatens to steal your story and make itself the primary focus.

Or so it’s going with my stuff.

48 Tigger2  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:09:41pm

re: #39 Targetpractice

At this rate, the “big tent” is gonna be the size of a pup tent.

If they keep going the way they are an umbrella will be big enough.

49 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:09:41pm

re: #43 Vicious Babushka

Oh. My. G-D.

Sucks to live there. (my son is in Huntsville)

Yeah—I just repeated that for the newbies. (Tax includes food and books.)

50 dragonath  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:10:44pm

re: #35 Decatur Deb

Free Republic has a delightful 100-comment thread, complete with flounces. SE Cupp has dropped out of CPAC in solidarity with GOProud.

CPAC is going to be a hoot this year.

I hope Zeb Cotter and Jack Swagger crash it.

51 sattv4u2  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:11:11pm

Shower
Pizza
Drive to Work

((maybe putting clothes on should be in there somewhere also))

bbiab

52 engineer cat  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:12:24pm

re: #51 sattv4u2

Shower
Pizza
Drive to Work

((maybe putting clothes on should be in there somewhere also))

bbiab

i hope you have the appropriate cold black coffee, or beer, to go along with your breakfast of pizza

53 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:12:45pm

I see the Freepers waste no time on attacking Cupp because she’s a woman.

54 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:13:59pm

re: #53 Kragar (Antichrist )

I see the Freepers waste no time on attacking Cupp because she’s a woman.

It’s Freep. “You’re only as good as your last derp.”

55 kirkspencer  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:14:32pm

re: #53 Kragar (Antichrist )

I see the Freepers waste no time on attacking Cupp because she’s a woman.

I think I’d phrase it differently. They’re attacking her because she didn’t hew the hard right edge. Their attacks, however, are based on her gender.

56 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:15:02pm

re: #55 kirkspencer

I think I’d phrase it differently. They’re attacking her because she didn’t hew the hard right edge. Their attacks, however, are based on her gender.

A fair point.

57 b_sharp  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:15:11pm

re: #40 Vicious Babushka

I sure hope you are getting paid $80 an hour.

$85.00

58 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:15:26pm

re: #53 Kragar (Antichrist )

I see the Freepers waste no time on attacking Cupp because she’s a woman.

Can you please give the link (or a cached link) because I don’t want to search all the threads over there.

59 Charles Johnson  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:15:39pm

Ah ha. Finally got it adjusted. Code sample looks much better now if you reload.

60 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:15:39pm

“OK, I’ve had it with the “God hates fags”, “If you don’t agree with everything I say you’re not a social conservative” and “ONLY evangelicals and some Cagtholics can really, really, be conservatives” crap.

Never thought I’d say it, but this is my last input to FR; enjoy your own little world folks. ”

61 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:16:02pm

re: #58 Vicious Babushka

Can you please give the link (or a cached link) because I don’t want to search all the threads over there.

[Link: www.freerepublic.com…]

62 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:17:15pm

re: #58 Vicious Babushka

Can you please give the link (or a cached link) because I don’t want to search all the threads over there.

I just go to the Freep Google results and read the cache, except for articles of interest with high comment counts.

63 engineer cat  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:17:26pm

re: #59 Charles Johnson

Ah ha. Finally got it adjusted. Code sample looks much better now if you reload.

ah

normal people have no idea how emotional us pgmr types can get over things like where the curly braces should go

64 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:18:06pm

re: #61 Kragar (Antichrist )

[Link: www.freerepublic.com…]

Comment #37 Removed by Moderator

Musta been some LIBRUL.

65 dragonath  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:18:42pm

I didn’t know that every gay person was a Socialist

Did someone link to the official BBS of the Westboro Baptist Church?

66 Bubblehead II  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:19:32pm

re: #21 FemNaziBitch

I’ve never understood the pre-occupation with other people’s bedroom activities.

It’s quite simple. If they don’t believe it is moral, no one should be allowed to do it. Conversely, if they believe it to be moral, while every one else thinks it isn’t, then you are violating their First Amendment Rights.

Wingnut logic at its best.

67 engineer cat  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:20:29pm

re: #59 Charles Johnson

you added a test in case scale() returned false instead of an array

weird ass web languages and their duck types

68 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:21:11pm

re: #66 Bubblehead II

It’s quite simple. If they don’t believe it is moral, no one should be allowed to do it. Conversely, if they believe it to be moral, while every one else thinks it isn’t, then you are violating their First Amendment Rights.

Wingnut logic at its best.

That would be like Catholics legislating against the sale of hot dogs on Fridays in Lent.

69 Gus  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:22:35pm

Oh brother. This is making the rounds.

What we’re on the brink of is scale implosion. Everything gigantic in American life is about to get smaller or die. Everything that we do to support economic activities at gigantic scale is going to hamper our journey into the new reality. The campaign to sustain the unsustainable, which is the official policy of US leadership, will only produce deeper whirls of entropy.

He has a degree in music and theater.

70 Tigger2  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:23:24pm

re: #61 Kragar (Antichrist )

[Link: www.freerepublic.com…]

I like this comment from there. lol

OK, I’ve had it with the “God hates fags”, “If you don’t agree with everything I say you’re not a social conservative” and “ONLY evangelicals and some Cagtholics can really, really, be conservatives” crap.
Never thought I’d say it, but this is my last input to FR; enjoy your own little world folks.

71 Stanley Sea  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:23:54pm

Lol let the illegal moms freeee

72 Etaoin Shrdlu  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:24:20pm

re: #59 Charles Johnson

Do we get a [code] button on the comment box?

/// \brief Off-topic remark.
/// Interesting. Single backslashes disappear.

73 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:25:17pm

re: #70 Tigger2

I like this comment from there. lol

OK, I’ve had it with the “God hates fags”, “If you don’t agree with everything I say you’re not a social conservative” and “ONLY evangelicals and some Cagtholics can really, really, be conservatives” crap.
Never thought I’d say it, but this is my last input to FR; enjoy your own little world folks.

Obviously a gay liberal pedophile dog-stuffing false flag.

74 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:26:30pm

re: #54 Decatur Deb

It’s Freep. “You’re only as good as your last derp.”

2 wingnuts, 1 Cupp?

Sorry, I couldn’t resist. :P

75 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:26:57pm

re: #70 Tigger2

And then the idiot brigade chimes in:

“God states, VERY clearly in the Bible, that choosing a homosexual lifestyle is wrong, a sin and an abomination.

Surely, homosexuals are doomed to an eternity in hell unless they repent and stop that perverted lifestyle choice.”

DOOOOMED!

76 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:27:12pm

re: #69 Gus

It’s too simplistic, but it’s nothing crazy.

77 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:29:17pm

*FACE PALM*

78 engineer cat  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:29:17pm

God states, VERY clearly in the Bible, that choosing a homosexual lifestyle is

jesus makes it abundantly clear - i mean, really really clear - that he is dead set against divorce, but most christian denominations manage to ignore this

79 Targetpractice  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:29:32pm

re: #75 Kragar (Antichrist )

And then the idiot brigade chimes in:

DOOOOMED!

Which is a big must…if one is looking for approval from the Bible-thumpers.

80 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:29:59pm

Funny, Miranda rights have been held as Constitutional under the SCOTUS.

81 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:31:20pm

re: #77 Vicious Babushka

*FACE PALM*

In the Constitution (as written by the Founders), women have no right to vote, slavery was legal, and blacks counted as 3/5 of person. Any other derps Bryan feels like sharing?

82 engineer cat  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:32:21pm

In the Constitution as given, you have a right to an attorney. You do NOT have the right to have somebody else pay for him.

fischer is exercising his right to know absolutely nothing about how laws work

83 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:33:00pm

re: #82 engineer cat

In the Constitution as given, you have a right to an attorney. You do NOT have the right to have somebody else pay for him.

fischer is exercising his right to know absolutely nothing about how laws work

Fucking Constitution, how does it work?

84 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:33:44pm

re: #83 Vicious Babushka

Fucking Constitution, how does it work?

THE BIBLE!
///

85 Targetpractice  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:34:14pm

re: #80 Kragar (Antichrist )

Funny, Miranda rights have been held as Constitutional under the SCOTUS.

I’ve no doubt Fischer is one of those nutters who thinks that SCOTUS has no Constitutional authority for “judicial review,” that its job is only to rule on whether a law is constitutional or not, while Congress can choose simply to ignore it.

86 Gus  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:34:41pm

re: #76 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

It’s too simplistic, but it’s nothing crazy.

It’s extremely simplistic and borders on the apocalyptic. Never heard of him until now and he probably has a devout following by the looks of things. Once again not writing for knowledge but to drive an audience. Wal-Mart sales were down because of the payroll tax increase and downward indicators of consumer confidence. That does not signal the end of Wal-Mart and other big box stores. It’ll be a long time before all American get to shop at small family run organic food boutiques.

87 dragonath  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:34:59pm
88 Bubblehead II  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:36:39pm

re: #77 Vicious Babushka

Wonder what part of Miranda he doesn’t understand?

You have the right to remain silent.

Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law.

You have the right to an attorney.

If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed for you.

As well as the fact it has been upheld numerous times by the SCOTUS.

89 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:37:07pm

Another “We Know Better Than Teh Juice What’s Good For Them!”

90 Targetpractice  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:38:01pm

re: #87 dragonath

Wait Johnny, you mean cutting budgets for government agencies might mean they can’t fulfill the duties assigned to them? You spent years as a member of a party that declares that government doesn’t work, and then are shocked when they get elected and prove it?!

91 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:38:17pm

re: #89 Vicious Babushka

Another “We Know Better Than Teh Juice What’s Good For Them!”

Maybe he’s one of the Herzlyia Galts.

92 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:38:26pm

re: #86 Gus

I don’t see what’s apocalyptic. I agree that the era of the huge stores is over, except for a few that manage to fit a niche perfectly.

And his first portion, about how discretionary income has sunk and that’s a prime reason for the draw-down of big box stores is right— but he’s wrong if he thinks that means local places are going to be at an advantage.

93 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:42:51pm

re: #91 Decatur Deb

Maybe he’s one of the Herzlyia Galts.

Zagorskis only wish their name could be Galt.

94 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:43:38pm
God states, VERY clearly in the Bible, that choosing a homosexual lifestyle is

It bothers me, as a Jew, that Christians purport to know what our G-d has written in the Hebrew Bible.

Most Jewish authorities will agree that G-d prohibited anal intercourse (though it’s worded as laying with a man as with a woman). Any more than this is subject to debate. And you won’t find one prohibition in the Hebrew bible about female same-sex sexual relationships (though it’s understood to be prohibited in the Talmud; which no Christian considers law)

There’s nothing about “lifestyles” that I’ve ever seen.

95 Gus  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:43:42pm

re: #92 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

I don’t see what’s apocalyptic. I agree that the era of the huge stores is over, except for a few that manage to fit a niche perfectly.

And his first portion, about how discretionary income has sunk and that’s a prime reason for the draw-down of big box stores is right— but he’s wrong if he thinks that means local places are going to be at an advantage.

Italy flutters its political wings and suddenly the markets do poorly. I’m really tired of this never ending recession. After seeing some indicators and having been around for a while I can tell this is going to be another crappy year.

96 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:43:44pm

Zagorski sure lurvs him some Godwin.

97 wrenchwench  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:44:20pm
98 JeffFX  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:45:45pm

re: #96 Vicious Babushka

Zagorski sure lurvs him some Godwin.

It’s sad that the mentally ill get Twitter followers now instead of professional help with their paranoid delusions.

99 Lidane  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:46:02pm

That sound you hear are wingnut heads going ‘splodey en masse.

Corporations favoring LGBT rights? Unpossible!

100 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:47:00pm

re: #95 Gus

Italy flutters its political wings and suddenly the markets do poorly. I’m really tired of this never ending recession. After seeing some indicators and having been around for a while I can tell this is going to be another crappy year.

As long as the greedheads and austerity buffs have as much power as they do, things are going to get worse and worse until we’re in another Gilded Age.

101 Gus  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:47:34pm

re: #100 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

As long as the greedheads and austerity buffs have as much power as they do, things are going to get worse and worse until we’re in another Gilded Age.

Yes.

102 Etaoin Shrdlu  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:51:27pm

re: #94 ReamWorks SKG

(though it’s worded as laying with a man as with a woman).

That only means he can’t steal your blanket and kick you in his sleep. God is wise and just.

103 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:55:02pm

re: #25 Eclectic Cyborg

The answer is 47.

I know the answer. It’s 42.

104 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 4:56:32pm

AH, BEEN playing on youtube. What’d I mith?

105 wrenchwench  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 5:01:32pm
106 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 5:04:04pm

re: #105 wrenchwench

Is it scheduled to go poof? or is the International Date Line involved?

107 dragonath  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 5:05:10pm

re: #105 wrenchwench

I always wondered what would happen if those two got together.

108 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 5:13:04pm

bbl

109 Gus  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 5:22:17pm

Can I just say, fuck Winter.

110 Mentis Fugit  Tue, Feb 26, 2013 6:25:14pm

re: #105 wrenchwench

Are you accounting for time difference in Israel?

I’m gobsmacked. Jonah Goldberg made an actual, honest-to-god, funny. But it’s all right, Jennifer Rubin restored my lack of faith in humanity.

111 Skip Intro  Wed, Feb 27, 2013 9:48:48am

re: #81 Kragar (Antichrist )

In the Constitution (as written by the Founders), women have no right to vote, slavery was legal, and blacks counted as 3/5 of person. Any other derps Bryan feels like sharing?

There’s nothing there that Fischer would disagree with, other than blacks probably shouldn’t count for more than half a person.


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