Right Wing Pundits Were Paid by the Government of Malaysia to Write Fluff Pieces

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Joshua Trevi�o

Right wing corruption on a grand scale, paid for by the government of Malaysia and completely undisclosed until now: Covert Malaysian Campaign Touched a Wide Range of American Media.

Remember - these are some of the same conservative writers who’ve spent the last month hyperventilating about Chuck Hagel’s hypothetical payments from foreign entities.

A range of mainstream American publications printed paid propaganda for the government of Malaysia, much of it focused on the campaign against a pro-democracy figure there.

The payments to conservative American opinion writers — whose work appeared in outlets from the Huffington Post and San Francisco Examiner to the Washington Times to National Review and RedState — emerged in a filing this week to the Department of Justice. The filing under the Foreign Agent Registration Act outlines a campaign spanning May 2008 to April 2011 and led by Joshua Trevino, a conservative pundit, who received $389,724.70 under the contract and paid smaller sums to a series of conservative writers.

Trevino lost his column at the Guardian last year after allegations that his relationship with Malaysian business interests wasn’t being disclosed in columns dealing with Malaysia. Trevino told Politico in 2011 that “I was never on any ‘Malaysian entity’s payroll,’ and I resent your assumption that I was.”

According to Trevino’s belated federal filing, the interests paying Trevino were in fact the government of Malaysia, “its ruling party, or interests closely aligned with either.” The Malaysian government has been accused of multiple human rights abuses and restricting the press and personal freedoms. Anwar, the opposition leader, has faced prosecution for sodomy, a prosecution widely denounced in the West which Trevino defended as more “nuanced” than American observers realized. The government for which Trevino worked also attacked Anwar for saying positive things about Israel; Trevino has argued that Anwar is not the pro-democracy figure he appears.

The federal filing specified that Trevino was engaged through the lobbying firm APCO Worldwide and the David All Group, an American online consulting firm. The contract also involved a firm called FBC (short for Fact-Based Communications), whose involvement in covert propaganda prompted a related scandal and forced an executive at The Atlantic to resign from its board.

UPDATE at 3/1/13 11:10:13 am

The Huffington Post has deleted Joshua Trevi�o’s articles attacking pro-democracy Malaysian Anwar Ibrahim, with the following Editor’s Note:

This post was removed from The Huffington Post after it was revealed that the author violated our blogger guidelines by not properly disclosing financial ties that amounted to a serious conflict of interest.

Here’s Google’s cache of Trevi�o’s paid propaganda: Joshua Treviño: What Anwar’s Trial Really Means.

Related
The Beam in Joshua Trevino’s Eye (or, Joshua Trevino’s connection to European fascists.)

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128 comments
1 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:14:30am

Anything for a buck.

Any why has posting gone to hell? I can see a cursor and I cant highlight anything to make bold or set links, etc.

2 Bulworth  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:15:33am

Just spreading freedom and libertee and freedom agenda. //

3 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:16:46am

Writing against the pro-democracy dude. What the fuck.

It’s so soulless.

4 Bulworth  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:16:59am

Oh these conservative pundits are the real job creators and freedom fighters. /

5 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:18:04am

Test Test

Bah, stupid java update, never mind.

6 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:18:45am

re: #1 Kragar (Antichrist )

Haven’t changed anything here - you may need to relaunch your browser or restart the computer.

7 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:19:51am

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Haven’t changed anything here - you may need to relaunch your browser or restart the computer.

It was a java bug, had to update and and relaunch my browser, fixed now.

8 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:20:03am

Remember - these are some of the same conservative writers who’ve spent the last month hyperventilating about Chuck Hagel’s hypothetical payments from foreign entities.

9 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:20:51am

re: #8 Charles Johnson

Remember - these are some of the same conservative writers who’ve spent the last month hyperventilating about Chuck Hagel’s hypothetical payments from foreign entities.

But that was Hamas, not friendly dictators!
/

10 Bulworth  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:21:00am

re: #8 Charles Johnson

Amazing isn’t it?

11 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:21:32am

I’m awaiting all the follow-up nuance by the right-wing screaming-heads regarding the fact that Malaysia is a Muslim-majority country and government.

12 Lidane  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:21:42am

re: #8 Charles Johnson

Remember - these are some of the same conservative writers who’ve spent the last month hyperventilating about Chuck Hagel’s hypothetical payments from foreign entities.

IOKIYAR, unless you decide to work for President Obama.

13 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:24:27am

Boehner: Discussion About Revenue Is Over

“Let’s make it clear that the President got his tax hikes on Jan. 1,” Boehner said. “This discussion about revenue, in my view, is over. It’s about taking on the spending problem here in Washington.”

Fuck you and every corporate cock you’ve ever sucked Boehner.

14 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:26:05am
I stand by what I wrote at the time and I continue to be critical of Anwar Ibrahim, who I think is a particularly dangerous fellow

Mooslim!

More and more the ‘conservatives’ here in the West are proving that they really don’t like this democracy shit. Oh, and they are for sale. But they aren’t whores, no matter what it appears like.

15 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:26:16am

DERP FAIL

16 Bulworth  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:26:35am
Let’s make it clear that the President got his tax hikes on Jan. 1,” Boehner said. “This discussion about revenue, in my view, is over. It’s about taking on the spending problem here in Washington.”

Why won’t Obama compromise? Why won’t he LEAD? //

17 Bulworth  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:27:48am

re: #12 Lidane

Yeah, even Republican Party affiliation isn’t enough if said Republican decides to be a traitor to the “cause”. /

18 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:28:55am

GUESS AGAIN PUDING

19 gwangung  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:29:45am

re: #15 Vicious Babushka

DERP FAIL

Failure to notice.

20 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:30:15am
Trevino’s subcontractors included conservative writer Ben Domenech, who made $36,000 from the arrangement, and Rachel Ehrenfeld, the director of the American Center for Democracy, who made $30,000. Seth Mandel, an editor at Commentary, made $5,500 (his byline is attached to the National Review item linked to above). Brad Jackson, writing at the time for RedState, made $24,700. Overall, 10 writers were part of the arrangement.

Seth Mandel attacked Hagel.

[Link: www.commentarymagazine.com…]

Rachel Ehrenfeld is very concerned about UN corruption. Maybe if anti-democracy dictators got less cover in the US media, we’d be able to have better UN members.

[Link: www.familysecuritymatters.org…]

Brad Jackson, hilariously, has an article about “buying access” to Obama.

[Link: www.redstate.com…]

Hypocrites of the highest order.

21 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:30:52am

From the filing, these are the other folks who pimped their writings in furtherance of the Malaysian government:

Brad Jackson ($24,700);
Ben Domenech ($36,000)
Claire Berlinski ($6,750)
Rachel Ehrenfeld ($30,000)
Seth Mandel ($5,500)
Chuck DeVore ($3,000)
Rachel Motte ($9,500)
Christopher Badeaux ($11,000)
David Brown ($2,500)
Kevin Holtsberry ($2,000)

Nice work if you can get it. /

22 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:33:08am

re: #21 lawhawk

From the filing, these are the other folks who pimped their writings in furtherance of the Malaysian government:

Nice work if you can get it. /

Weren’t these some of the same people who were all outrageously outraged when Malaysian minister made some Holocaust denial comments several years ago?

23 efuseakay  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:33:43am

Foreign influence for money. Good for me, not for thee!

24 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:33:47am

DELUSIONAL WORLD OF DERP

25 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:34:53am

The Wingnuts latest conspiracy: Obama is unleashing hordes of Illegals to ravage the countryside

Jan Brewer Unleashed: White House Freeing Dangerous Immigrants As ‘Payback’

26 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:35:26am

re: #24 Vicious Babushka

DELUSIONAL WORLD OF DERP

Brought down how exactly?

27 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:35:32am

re: #22 Vicious Babushka

Yup. Claire Berlinski and Rachel Ehrenfeld.

28 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:35:41am

WHAT RIGHT-WING RACISM?

29 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:37:13am

Sean Hannity suggests Keith Ellison is the ‘equivalent’ of the KKK

On Tuesday, Ellison had appeared on Hannity’s show and blasted him for being “the worst excuse for a journalist I’ve ever seen.”

In a Thursday segment, Hannity got his revenge with a long segment linking Ellison to the controversial Nation of Islam leader.

“This is really serious, in as much as Farrakhan, one of the most divisive figure in our culture, rabid anti-Semite racist,” the Fox News host asserted, adding that Ellison also had ties to black militant Khalid Muhammad.

Hannity said that Muhammad wanted to “kill the women, everything white that’s in sight — kill the women, kill the babies, kill the children, kill the old people.”

If linking Ellison to someone who he said wanted to kill “everything white” wasn’t enough, Hannity then suggested that Ellison was the “equivalent” of the Ku Klux Klan, a white supremacist group.

30 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:38:58am

re: #26 Kragar (Antichrist )

Mr. Bernstein might beg to differ about the whole “brought down all by himself” thing.

31 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:39:21am

Hannity is going full Lord Haha.

32 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:41:15am

re: #30 lawhawk

Mr. Bernstein might beg to differ about the whole “brought down all by himself” thing.

I love how people who fell in full lockstep to everything during the Bush presidency are suddenly full blown anarchists all of a sudden.

“Question Authority… unless its a Republican or the Church.”

33 Lidane  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:41:43am

re: #15 Vicious Babushka

Because POTUS hasn’t said a goddamn word about the sequester until today.

WTF. Morons. These people are deranged.

34 BongCrodny  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:42:17am

re: #14 Romantic Heretic

More and more the ‘conservatives’ here in the West are proving that they really don’t like this democracy shit. Oh, and they are for sale. But they aren’t whores, no matter what it appears like.

At least with whores, you get more for your money than unbridled nonsense.

36 Lidane  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:43:38am

re: #24 Vicious Babushka

Watergate involved more than one person. Morons.

Of course, what do you expect from a bunch of idiots who get their history from Faux News, Glenn Beck, and David Barton?

37 Bulworth  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:44:25am

re: #35 Dr. Matt

Obama is a Chicago thuggery bully who abuses his executive powers to make tyranny except when he won’t use his executive powers. //

38 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:44:37am

re: #29 Kragar (Antichrist )

He’s such a stupid racist piece of shit.

39 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:45:00am

Rep. Dana Rohrabacher Demands Obama Copy Reagan Foreign Policy

Appearing on Frank Gaffney’s Secure Freedom Radio yesterday, Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA) argued that President Obama should emulate President Reagan’s policy of arming “the enemy of our enemy.” This tactic, of course, led the U.S. to arm the combatants in Afghanistan led by Osama bin Laden and the notorious Contras of Nicaragua.

The congressman even agreed with Gaffney when he made the egregious claim that the Obama administration wants to “prop up” the Iranian regime.

Rohrabacher also suggested that the US should arm the Mujahedeen-e Khlaq (People’s Mujahedin Organization of Iran), which last year was delisted as a foreign terror organization. Gaffney’s CSP has criticized the MEK as being a “pro-Saddam Hussein group” and noted its record of violence.

40 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:45:31am

re: #35 Dr. Matt

NOT The Onion:

WTFBBQSAUCE

41 erik_t  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:47:45am

re: #13 Kragar (Antichrist )

Boehner: Discussion About Revenue Is Over

Fuck you and every corporate cock you’ve ever sucked Boehner.

It’s hard for me to see a quote like that and not just head straight to the bar. We’re just kinda fucked.

I mean, I don’t have anything else thoughtful to say. We’re just kinda fucked.

42 jaunte  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:47:51am

Dancing.

43 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:47:55am

re: #39 Kragar (Antichrist )

That is fucking insane. They’re on our terrorist watch-list. They’re pro-Hussien. She’s literally suggesting we arm our enemies. What the fuckity fuck fuck.

I mean, I guess that is Reagan-era policy, arming terrorists. Maybe it’s the retro thing.

44 Lidane  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:48:44am

re: #39 Kragar (Antichrist )

Rep. Dana Rohrabacher Demands Obama Copy Reagan Foreign Policy

Because the House GOP is completely reasonable and wouldn’t immediately try to impeach President Obama for treason if he suggested funding the MEK.

Rohrbacher is a fucking moron.

45 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:48:55am

Whoa, one of these just flew over my head. It was so low could read the numbers on the bottom.

Image: image.jpg

46 jaunte  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:49:29am
47 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:51:00am

re: #45 NJDhockeyfan

Whoa, one of these just flew over my head. It was so low could read the numbers on the bottom.

Image: image.jpg

There a lake nearby they could be catching fish in?
;)

48 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:51:05am

re: #46 jaunte

What a weird dude. His defense is “Sure, I’m a complete sellout to anti-democracy movements, but so is everyone else, so it’s not a big deal.”

49 Bulworth  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:51:18am

re: #46 jaunte

Is this his trying to defend himself about the Malaysia work?

50 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:51:22am

It not like anyone we’ve ever supplied weapons to has ever turned on us later, what harm could it cause?
///

51 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:51:42am

re: #45 NJDhockeyfan

Whoa, one of these just flew over my head. It was so low could read the numbers on the bottom.

Image: image.jpg

FEMA Liquidation Team.

52 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:52:23am

GOP gets the cuts it has always sought (shrink the government, excepting defense cuts), but proceeds to whine and complain and blame the President for them. They get a two-fer. It’s whirred peas all over.

They complained about the 2012 Tax Act, which made permanent the Bush tax cuts for all but those making more than $400k/450k-if married (whose rate reverted to the pre-Bush top rate of 39.6%). It amounts to a massive tax cut made permanent, but the GOP fixates on the top tax rate that affects a small percentage of all taxpayers as being so divisive because it raised taxes.

They complained about the expiration of the temporary payroll tax reduction because it raised taxes (even though those payments went to directly fund SS).

And it’s worth remembering that the 39.6% rate applies only to the income over the $400/450k threshold. Income up to $400/450 is paid at the lower rates.

53 klys  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:52:49am

re: #13 Kragar (Antichrist )

Boehner: Discussion About Revenue Is Over

Fuck you and every corporate cock you’ve ever sucked Boehner.

I’m with Erik. That really makes me want a drink.

54 Lidane  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:53:04am
55 Dr. Matt  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:53:08am

re: #45 NJDhockeyfan

Whoa, one of these just flew over my head. It was so low could read the numbers on the bottom.

Image: image.jpg

Don’t stand under one too long because it may fall out of the sky on top of you. The flight safety record of Ospreys is pretty miserable.

56 Blue Point  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:53:55am

re: #54 Lidane

Looks like the GOP has another ally.

57 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:53:56am

re: #55 Dr. Matt

Don’t stand under one too long because it may fall out of the sky on top of you. The flight safety record of Ospreys are pretty miserable.

On its way to Quantico I’d wager.

58 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:57:20am

re: #39 Kragar (Antichrist )

So, by copying Reagan’s foreign policy, he means:

1) insulting Israel’s prime minister (saying that the Israelis engaged in a Holocaust after a series of airstrikes against the PLO in Lebanon in 1981);
2) demanding a halt to settlement construction or withholding loan guarantees;
3) selling advanced aircraft (AWACS) to Saudi Arabia over the objection of the Israelis who were against the sale because it would give the Saudis equipment that could detect Israeli aircraft at distance; and
4) failing to eliminate Hizbullah following the 1983 Marine Barracks bombing that killed 241 Marines, sailors, and soldiers - and (a short campaign that included the USS New Jersey bombarding targets in Lebanon did nothing to deter Hizbullah in the long term).

59 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:58:54am

re: #46 jaunte

So he’s not being a bad journalist, because he’s not a journalist, he’s a PR person. And then acknowledges that it’s wrong for a PR person to fail to disclose who is paying you also. So is he insulted if he’s called a bad PR person?

60 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:59:02am

re: #46 jaunte

Joshua Trevino is the epitome of a sleazy right wing liar.

61 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:59:13am

re: #58 lawhawk

So, by copying Reagan’s foreign policy, he means:

1) insulting Israel’s prime minister (saying that the Israelis engaged in a Holocaust after a series of airstrikes against the PLO in Lebanon in 1981);
2) demanding a halt to settlement construction or withholding loan guarantees;
3) selling advanced aircraft (AWACS) to Saudi Arabia over the objection of the Israelis who were against the sale because it would give the Saudis equipment that could detect Israeli aircraft at distance; and
4) failing to eliminate Hizbullah following the 1983 Marine Barracks bombing that killed 241 Marines, sailors, and soldiers - and (a short campaign that included the USS New Jersey bombarding targets in Lebanon did nothing to deter Hizbullah in the long term).

Don’t forget ramping up our debt drastically to pay for all the other crap he had on the table.

62 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:59:21am

re: #24 Vicious Babushka

DELUSIONAL WORLD OF DERP

Unless it’s conservative authority. That is beyond criticism and only a commie/fascist/muslim would do so.

63 Gus  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:59:44am

Pretty damning stuff but this won’t matter. Business as usual for the right wing. They’ll just look the other way and find some way to rationalize it. “We were tricked!”

64 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 10:59:57am
65 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:00:22am

re: #57 Varek Raith

On its way to Quantico I’d wager.

No, lots of military helicopters and planes land at our small airport all the time. Air Force One even stops by every once in a while to practice touch and go’s.

66 sagehen  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:00:46am

re: #54 Lidane

Al Qaeda is a strict “traditional marriage” outfit

For some values of “traditional”.

67 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:00:49am

re: #65 NJDhockeyfan

No, lots of military helicopters and planes land at our small airport all the time. Air Force One even stops by every once in a while to practice touch and go’s.

Neat.

68 Bulworth  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:01:39am

re: #58 lawhawk

No, not that Reagan. The other Reagan of their imagination.

69 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:03:17am

re: #65 NJDhockeyfan

No, lots of military helicopters and planes land at our small airport all the time. Air Force One even stops by every once in a while to practice touch and go’s.

I’ve had AF-1 parked across the street a few times in the last couple years.

70 Bulworth  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:04:55am

re: #64 wrenchwench

Oh, OK, then. Let’s go back to attacking WH for bullying and threatening seasoned WH reporter although it wasn’t actually bullying or threatening. //

71 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:05:03am

re: #65 NJDhockeyfan

when I was a kid a Nat’l Guard Helicopter squadron (i think that’s what it’s called) used to do their weekend maneuvers at our local airport and I’d get to hang out with them for the weekend. They’d also do their 2 week maneuvers there which was really cool to watch.

72 Kronocide  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:07:03am

I knew Trevino was a hack this is just freakin delicious.

73 Gus  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:07:10am
74 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:07:31am

I can hear and feel when they are doing artillery training at Quantico.

75 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:09:00am

Robertson: Liberals Use Schools like Gulags to ‘Indoctrinate’ Youth

Pat Robertson reacted to the news that Chicago public schools will teach kindergarteners “the basics about anatomy, reproduction, healthy relationships and personal safety” by claiming it is “one more of the liberal initiatives to force their point of view” on others.

“You see we believe in America, in freedom, in free choice, free enterprise, freedom; but the liberals, the progressives so-called, they want to enforce their point of view and have people in lockstep accepting what they want,” Robertson said.

He then went on to say that liberals are using public schools just like Communists in Russia and China used prison camps: “If people won’t accept it, the Russians were willing to put them in gulags; the Chinese have been willing to put them in prisons. Here in America, the liberals think they’ve got them in school and they want to indoctrinate them and force them into a mindset that is contrary to what their parents believe.”

I laugh at anyone peddling religion to make a buck bitching about indoctrination.

76 JustMark  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:09:21am

re: #74 Varek Raith

I can hear and feel when they are doing artillery training at Quantico.

Me too.

77 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:10:01am

Hmmm…This whole sequester thing didn’t really go like I thought it would. After months of hype over the disasters of going over the cliff the tone of coverage has suddenly changed.
Wall Street (and Main Street) give sequester a big yawn
I’m starting to see more stuff like this from Ross Douthat from the NYT: Three Arguments for the Sequester

Oh well, live and learn I suppose.

78 HoosierHoops  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:10:06am

re: #69 Kragar (Antichrist )

I’ve had AF-1 parked across the street a few times in the last couple years.

I live by Tinker AFB. I see all kinds of neat shit. Helo’s, AWAC’s, Fighters and yesterday a Lancer Bomber was flying around. I’m very impressed with the AF power.

79 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:10:42am

re: #74 Varek Raith

I can hear and feel when they are doing artillery training at Quantico.

If you ever want to read some of the funniest, scariest things in the world, read the accident reports for a major military base, if you can get them.

80 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:10:50am

The Huffington Post has deleted Joshua Trevino’s articles attacking pro-democracy Malaysian Anwar Ibrahim, with the following Editor’s Note:

This post was removed from The Huffington Post after it was revealed that the author violated our blogger guidelines by not properly disclosing financial ties that amounted to a serious conflict of interest.

Here’s Google’s cache of Trevino’s paid propaganda: Joshua Treviño: What Anwar’s Trial Really Means.

81 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:11:13am

re: #74 Varek Raith

I can hear and feel when they are doing artillery training at Quantico.

Cool!

82 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:12:30am

re: #78 HoosierHoops

I live by Tinker AFB. I see all kinds of neat shit. Helo’s, AWAC’s, Fighters and yesterday a Lancer Bomber was flying around. I’m very impressed with the AF power.

I see AWACs out here all the time.

83 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:13:32am

re: #82 NJDhockeyfan

I see AWACs out here all the time.

I drive by one their maintenance bays every morning, they’ve usually got 4 or 5 of the discs up on blocks.

84 Kronocide  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:13:33am

Much ado about nothing. Yeah, they paid money, but we could say whatever we want.

85 Mattand  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:14:05am

re: #41 erik_t

It’s hard for me to see a quote like that and not just head straight to the bar. We’re just kinda fucked.

I mean, I don’t have anything else thoughtful to say. We’re just kinda fucked.

It’s hard for me to see that quote and then see the Killgores of the world pull the old “They’re all to blame” horseshit.

And a hearty “Way to go, geniuses” to anyone who voted GOP in federal contests over the last 10 or so years. You enabled this mess by electing these dipshits.

86 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:14:56am

re: #54 Lidane

Al Qaeda says the US has another crime to add to its litany of atrocities: Support for same-sex marriage.

This is a good sign: it hearalds a split in the secularist-Islamist cabal that is out to wreck America!

/

87 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:15:20am

re: #75 Kragar (Antichrist )

Robertson: Liberals Use Schools like Gulags to ‘Indoctrinate’ Youth

I laugh at anyone peddling religion to make a buck bitching about indoctrination.

You see we believe in America as spoken of in The Bible, in freedom the power of our religion, in free choice as long as our religion agrees with it, free enterprise as defined by large corporations, freedom the power of our religion.

Translated into honest English.

88 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:16:08am

Sent a message to my three congressmen.

About the thing last night, wanting action against Jamaat-i-Islami. After last night’s events, I want them declared a Terrorist Organization.

89 Targetpractice  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:16:32am

re: #13 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Boehner: Discussion About Revenue Is Over

Fuck you and every corporate cock you’ve ever sucked Boehner.

Oh hey, I’m willing to agree, we do have a spending problem. We start with the DoD, then move down to oil/gas subsidies next. Your move, Boehner.

90 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:17:42am

re: #89 Targetpractice

Oh hey, I’m willing to agree, we do have a spending problem. We start with the DoD, then move down to oil/gas subsidies next. Your move, Boehner.

Removing corporate subsidies is a tax hike!
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91 jaunte  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:18:22am

Joshua Trevino dropped by The Guardian over Malaysian ties

‘I vigorously affirm that nothing unethical was done and I have been open with the Guardian in this matter. Nevertheless, the Guardian’s guidelines are necessarily broad, and I agree that they must be respected as such,’ said Joshua Treviño.

We have therefore mutually agreed to go our separate ways and wish each other the best of luck.”

Even he doesn’t believe what he writes.

92 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:18:36am

re: #88 ProBosniaLiberal

Sent a message to my three congressmen.

About the thing last night, wanting action against Jamaat-i-Islami. After last night’s events, I want them declared a Terrorist Organization.

Any feedback yet?

93 Interesting Times  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:18:47am

re: #43 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

That is fucking insane. They’re on our terrorist watch-list. They’re pro-Hussien. She’s literally suggesting we arm our enemies. What the fuckity fuck fuck.

Dana Rohrabacher is a he (Loesch, Malkin, et al are enough derp for my gender, thanks ;) ) On a related note, the said congressman amazingly felt the need to respond to a tweet I’d sent to someone else:

Hint: this must be his weak spot. Strike it without mercy :D

94 Targetpractice  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:20:40am

re: #90 Kragar (Antichrist )

Removing corporate subsidies is a tax hike!
///

So’s killing the payroll tax cut, but that didn’t seem to keep the GOP up all night.

95 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:22:10am

re: #94 Targetpractice

So’s killing the payroll tax cut, but that didn’t seem to keep the GOP up all night.

Oh, but that was Obama raising taxes on the middle class.
///

96 Bulworth  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:22:17am

re: #80 Charles Johnson

Librul persecution librule bi-ass against conservatives censorship political correctness…

97 Targetpractice  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:22:41am

re: #95 Kragar (Antichrist )

Oh, but that was Obama raising taxes on the middle class.
///

And ya’ll disagreed with it, right?

/

98 Lidane  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:24:03am

re: #89 Targetpractice

Oh hey, I’m willing to agree, we do have a spending problem. We start with the DoD, then move down to oil/gas subsidies next. Your move, Boehner.

Why do you hate America?

///

99 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:24:04am

re: #76 JustMark

Welcome, hatchling.

100 klys  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:24:26am

re: #77 Killgore Trout

I’m not sure what you’re saying here. The world didn’t end today. That’s great.

I think it’s disingenuous to pretend that this won’t have substantial impacts down the road.

It will be very ironic if the spending cuts have no real impact on spending as a percent of the GDP because the GDP contracts because of the spending cuts. Depressing, but ironic.

101 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:24:37am

re: #92 NJDhockeyfan

Just the “We have a see of emails to go through, but will will try to contact you with an update.”

Reasonable, as my rep represents the Colorado Springs Metro, and the Senators represent 4 million+

102 Targetpractice  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:24:40am

I swear, every time I heard Boehner or one of the other witless GOP worms on Capital Hill whine about taxes, I immediately imagine that scene from History of the World, Part I.

You all know what I’m talking about…

103 Lidane  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:25:59am

re: #77 Killgore Trout

If only someone had thought to try and tie the sequester to OWS. You’d probably care then.

104 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:26:10am

re: #102 Targetpractice

I swear, every time I heard Boehner or one of the other witless GOP worms on Capital Hill whine about taxes, I immediately imagine that scene from History of the World, Part I.

You all know what I’m talking about…

[Embedded content]

The GOP anthem…

105 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:26:33am

re: #61 Kragar (Antichrist )

Don’t forget ramping up our debt drastically to pay for all the other crap he had on the table.

Obama needs an equivalent to Iran-Contra as well.

106 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:28:42am

re: #105 Feline Fearless Leader

Obama needs an equivalent to Iran-Contra as well.

Fuck it, at this point, I’m about ready to support the FEMA camps.

107 Targetpractice  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:28:44am

You wanna see the GOP make a deal in under a day. Dangle in front of them an offer to replace the sequester with dismantling Obamacare. They’d batter down the doors in order to make that deal.

108 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:28:49am

He’s a self-acknowledged sleaze ball. No wonder he can’t be insulted.

109 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:30:50am

re: #77 Killgore Trout

Hmmm…This whole sequester thing didn’t really go like I thought it would. After months of hype over the disasters of going over the cliff the tone of coverage has suddenly changed.
Wall Street (and Main Street) give sequester a big yawn
I’m starting to see more stuff like this from Ross Douthat from the NYT: Three Arguments for the Sequester

Oh well, live and learn I suppose.

CNN was just running through what will start happening later in March and into April. I’m sure you be laughing just as hard about the non-effects in six weeks time.
//

110 Skip Intro  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:34:22am

re: #75 Kragar (Antichrist )

Robertson: Liberals Use Schools like Gulags to ‘Indoctrinate’ Youth

Just die already. Don’t you want to meet God?

111 Bulworth  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:35:12am

re: #107 Targetpractice

The GOPteabag is just holding out for 2016 when they hope to capture both Houses of Congress and the Presidency and in their First Great Legislative Act, vote to repeal the ACA. They won’t care a fig that by that time there will be people eligible to purchase private insurance despite having a pre-existing condition. Nor will they care one wit that repealing the ACA would throw families off of Medicaid and throw wrenches into the public-private healthcare exchanges. No, repealing the ACA will be their Density (as Marty McFly might say).

112 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:35:25am

re: #100 klys

I’m not sure what you’re saying here. The world didn’t end today. That’s great.

I think it’s disingenuous to pretend that this won’t have substantial impacts down the road.

It will be very ironic if the spending cuts have no real impact on spending as a percent of the GDP because the GDP contracts because of the spending cuts. Depressing, but ironic.

Well, I don’t know what to think exactly. However it seem the sequester was not well designed to be some devastating line in the sand that can not be crossed. It was well known that the “fiscal cliff” is actually a series of steps but nobody seems to have made a serious effort to avoid crossing this first line, and nobody seems terribly upset about it. They didn’t even bother postponing this one by kicking the can down the road. I wonder how far down this road we’re going.

113 Bulworth  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:36:50am

re: #107 Targetpractice

I’m starting to think they would at least entertain the idea of shutting down the Pentagon in return for demolishing Obamacare.

114 klys  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:39:08am

re: #112 Killgore Trout

Well, I don’t know what to think exactly. However it seem the sequester was not well designed to be some devastating line in the sand that can not be crossed. It was well known that the “fiscal cliff” is actually a series of steps but nobody seems to have made a serious effort to avoid crossing this first line, and nobody seems terribly upset about it. They didn’t even bother postponing this one by kicking the can down the road. I wonder how far down this road we’re going.

Nobody seems upset about it …like the press? Like the average person on the street? Like Wall Street? What metric are you using?

Also, I’m not sure what serious effort can be made to negotiate with Republicans, some of whom actually want the sequester to happen regardless of what it means for the country because it means cutting government spending. I welcome your ideas.

115 Skip Intro  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:39:09am

re: #80 Charles Johnson

The Huffington Post has deleted Joshua Trevino’s articles attacking pro-democracy Malaysian Anwar Ibrahim, with the following Editor’s Note:

Here’s Google’s cache of Trevino’s paid propaganda: Joshua Treviño: What Anwar’s Trial Really Means.

I think they should have left his posts up, with the Editor’s Note and the added info that he’s a paid hack who sells his opinion for a couple of thousand dollars.

116 JustMark  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:41:45am

re: #99 wrenchwench

Thanks.

117 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:43:56am

re: #108 wrenchwench

He’s a self-acknowledged sleaze ball. No wonder he can’t be insulted.

Exactly. That’s why he’s popular on the right wing. I predict that right wing blogs will either completely ignore this or unite to support Treviño.

118 Bulworth  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:43:57am
Robertson: Liberals Use Schools like Gulags to ‘Indoctrinate’ Youth

This has been a religious right whine for many years now, decades.

But when I eventually ended up at a public university after spending K-12 in church schools I actually discovered something much different. Namely, variety, differences, whole new subject areas and thought processes it seemed than what I had been exposed to growing up.

Of course this is the public university’s great offense, the unmitigated “evil” that is pluralism, critical thinking, higher critism, and the like. So by “indoctrinization” religious right spokespeople don’t mean “uniforminity” they mean diversity, pluralism, thought, discussion, the possibility of change, acceptance of differences. This they cannnot abide.

119 Bulworth  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:45:57am

re: #108 wrenchwench

He’s a self-acknowledged sleaze ball. No wonder he can’t be insulted.

This is simply how what is?

120 A Mom Anon  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:52:11am

re: #100 klys

For anyone thinking this isn’t going to have any effect, let me tell ya’all a little story.

About 4 yrs ago I began the process of finding job training/skills programs for my son. I’ve talked about him many times, he’s autistic and has trouble connecting socially. I was looking for something to help him transition out of high school and into a job or school or both.

A little over a year ago, the State of Georgia replaced an outdated and dangerous facility in NW GA that is designed for kids like my son.10 million dollars of that awful stimulus money was used to create a really awesome small college like campus with dorms,classes, a clinic,and to hire an amazing staff. He just got back from a one month evaluation period there. It was his first time away from home and it was hard for him and us, but he did very well. In fact, the kid I just got back from this school is my “old” son. High school was HORRIBLE for him, he was lonely, had no friends, experienced bullying and each day just beat him into the ground. But he graduated and made it through the first phase of getting into this 58 bed school. Now that is in jeopardy because of sequestration.

You have to understand, this program will help my son get his driver’s license, give him a chance to enter college and help him navigate his studies. They will teach him everything from handling money to making smart shopping choices to navigating dating and online hazards. They offer all kinds of group talk therapy sessions, social outings, cooking classes and they have plans to start up a couple of businesses to give the students an idea of what it takes to run a business. It is THE ONLY PLACE that he’s felt accepted and welcomed besides our home. The other students there are wonderful, they welcomed him and befriended him, he feels safe there. This is not a drain on the taxpayer, all of these young people will leave this place (they can stay til age 25)employable and educated. It’s an investment, one that will pay off huge. For our families and our communities. All of this is in jeopardy now because of this freaking asinine gamesmanship going on in Congress. And for what? So some rich fucks can have a few percentage points knocked off their taxes? Or so someone doesn’t get primaried by yet another tea party douchebag? Anyone who says this won’t hurt anyone is full of shit. It will. Just because it ain’t you doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.

121 klys  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:57:07am

re: #120 A Mom Anon

It is things like this that make me SO ANGRY about people who say there is no effect. Or that government spending and safety nets are horrible.

My sister finished her college degree last year in environmental studies and is currently working an internship up in MN. She’s trying to get an actual job but for what she wants to do, the main places would be Fish & Wildlife or NPS - neither of which are exactly stable hiring places right now. These are real people who want real jobs who are impacted.

Don’t get me started on my mother-in-law bitching about science funding to my face (the first 4 years of my Ph.D. were supported by NSF grant funding - I love her dearly but we can’t talk politics at all).

122 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 12:07:14pm

re: #21 lawhawk

From the filing, these are the other folks who pimped their writings in furtherance of the Malaysian government:

Nice work if you can get it. /

Sold themselves VERY cheaply!

123 Patricia Kayden  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 12:49:59pm

Surprised that Trevino was writing articles for Huffington Post. Didn’t know they had Rightwingers writing there, but I guess I don’t spend much time at that website.

So who else is paying Rightwing “journalists” for their spin?

124 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 1:15:17pm

re: #119 Bulworth

This is simply how what is?

Life as a scumball.

125 Kronocide  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 1:22:35pm

re: #119 Bulworth

This is simply how what is?

It’s a stale iteration of ‘don’t hate the player hate the game.’

126 Patricia Kayden  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 1:34:03pm

re: #29 Kragar (Antichrist )

Keith Ellison may be all those things (NOT), but Hannity is still a poor excuse for a journalist. So there’s that.

127 Patricia Kayden  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 1:45:00pm

re: #111 Bulworth

There aren’t enough White voters to put them in the White House in 2016. Doubt they’ll take the Senate either. I’m sure there will be a flood of voter suppression laws by then but probably not enough to make a difference in the Electoral College.

128 Tigger2  Fri, Mar 1, 2013 2:14:25pm

re: #54 Lidane

Well lol, it looks like Al Qaeda and the Wingnuts have something in common.


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