Authentic Wingnut Gibberish: Michelle Malkin Stands With Pamela Geller

Because the GOP is “soft on jihad”
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Michelle “Muslim Concentration Camps” Malkin agrees with the xenophobia part of Pamela Geller’s schtick. Maybe not the Birther stuff, but the jury’s still out.

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288 comments
1 Kronocide  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 6:19:36pm

Reading that torrent of idiocy causes me to root for the asteroid.

2 Gus  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 6:24:36pm

Speaking of Pamela Geller. Here’s her best friend on the other side of the pond.

3 Gus  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 6:25:13pm

Note. Not an endorsement of RT.

4 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 6:28:35pm

I don’t agree with Geller about much except that the repairs on 2nd avenue are really fucking annoying.

5 Lidane  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 6:28:58pm

“Dispute not with her; she is lunatic.” —Richard III, Act I, Scene III

6 Kronocide  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 6:29:48pm

I stand with Gellar that Belvedere is better than Grey Goose.

7 jaunte  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 6:31:36pm
but when it comes to natlsec & defiance of GOP’s soft-on-jihad lobbyists, yes, i #standwithpamelageller

In the face of soft-on-jihad GOP lobbyists, Pam kept sharia out of northeast Texas.

Or maybe that was Louie Gohmert, hard to say.

8 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 6:32:07pm

re: #2 Gus

Speaking of Pamela Geller. Here’s her best friend on the other side of the pond.

If your friends think throwing things at the police is a good idea, you should think about getting some new friends. True for anti-Israel moonbats, true for anti-Muslim wingnuts.

9 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 6:35:25pm
10 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 6:36:38pm

This made me throw up in my mouth.

11 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 6:36:51pm

re: #9 Vicious Babushka

Pammy with new BFF Dim Jim.

Sheesh, he always has that ‘derp’ look to him.

12 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 6:39:12pm

re: #10 Vicious Babushka

This made me throw up in my mouth.

Image: prophet-lol-cat-seen-the-future.jpg

13 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 6:39:55pm

They’re trying to embarrass CPAC into letting Geller and Spencer host another hatefest.

Interesting to see what kinds of hate are acceptable or not acceptable at CPAC.

14 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 6:40:33pm

re: #2 Gus

Speaking of Pamela Geller. Here’s her best friend on the other side of the pond.

Ah, for the good old days when that sort of thing was rightly frowned upon.

15 Kronocide  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 6:40:35pm

Geller and Hoft’s kid would be really f’ed up.

16 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 6:42:07pm

re: #15 Kronocide

Geller and Hoft’s kid would be really f’ed up.

What if it had her looks and his brains?

What if it had his looks and her brains?

17 biorabbi  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 6:44:20pm

If the GOP is going soft on the Jihad, maybe they should try going hard on the Jihad?

18 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 6:44:34pm

re: #10 Vicious Babushka

This made me throw up in my mouth.

Ew.

19 biorabbi  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 6:45:53pm

I meant this video in good humor… no disrespect to anybody intended =)

20 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 6:46:30pm

The CPAC 2013 schedule:

21 Tigger2  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 6:48:11pm

Jim Hoft,,,,, It’s an Obama World… Most Americans Can No Longer Afford New Cars. Thats not Obama World I have been unable to afford a new car since Reagan. So for me it’s Reagan World.

22 Kronocide  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 6:51:24pm

I meant no commentary on physical looks. Geller could be pretty, and Dim isn’t… ugly. But their inner selves are ugly.

I’m just saying, growing up in all that hate and detachment cannot be good for a person.

23 Tigger2  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 6:51:56pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

The CPAC 2013 schedule:

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That should be fun there’s a whole lot of crazy there.

24 klys  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 6:52:43pm

re: #12 Varek Raith

Image: prophet-lol-cat-seen-the-future.jpg

It really is true that everything on the Internet can be explained with LOLcats.

25 jaunte  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 6:57:07pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

I see they’ll be entertaining themselves with a screening of 3801 Lancaster.

Propaganda Film Exploits Gosnell Tragedy to Promote Conspiracy Theory

…it’s indeed clear that white affluent male legislators in Harrisburg were not particularly concerned with the health of poor black and ethnic women in Philadelphia by way of institutionalized classism, racism and sexism. That, however, is a completely different concept from claiming that abortion is a scheme concocted by the powers that be to kill black people in utero, which is the view pushed by NBPLC.
…..
The irony is that shutting down clinics only makes it more difficult for poor and working women to obtain the reproductive healthcare, education and contraception necessary to prevent unwanted pregnancy: Studies show that while unplanned pregnancies have been steadily decreasing among middle-class American women, it has skyrocketed among poor women, increasing by 50% between 1994 and 2006.

It’s a shame. While on the surface, the filmmakers seem to align themselves with the poor, mostly minority female victims of Gosnell’s clinic, in reality, they are more closely aligned with the right-wing legislators in Harrisburg — those other out-of-towners shameless enough to distort and exploit our city’s tragedy for political gain.

26 freetoken  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 7:00:12pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

We can haz Scribd embeds?

27 Gus  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 7:02:00pm

Ted Cruz. The man who might be president.

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28 Targetpractice  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 7:02:38pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

The CPAC 2013 schedule:

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Let’s see, Ken Cuccinelli (on behalf of VA, I apologize for this nutter), Allen West, Pat Toomey, Louie Gohmert, John Bolton, Steve King, Grover Norquist, Lindsey Graham, Marco Rubio, Rand Paul, Lamar Smith, Ted Cruz, Ben Shapiro, Rick Perry, Tim Scott, Mia Love (folks will remember her as the woman the GOP slobbered all over at the convention last year), Ann Coulter, Jim Demint, Dana Loesch…

And those are all in just the first day. Just reading the list is like looking into that window from Fringe through which you can see a parallel dimension.

29 freetoken  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 7:02:39pm

re: #21 Tigger2

Jim Hoft,,,,, It’s an Obama World… Most Americans Can No Longer Afford New Cars. Thats not Obama World I have been unable to afford a new car since Reagan. So for me it’s Reagan World.

As I noted in a comment to a Page about disposable income in January, the real disposable income of Americans rose in 2012, and by more than it did in 2011.

As far as Americans not being able to afford automobiles - that’s been inevitable since the US peaked petroleum production in the early 1970’s. It’s only a matter of time until the internal combustion engine is seen as both extravagant as well as harmful.

30 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 7:03:24pm

re: #26 freetoken

We can haz Scribd embeds?

Indeed you can haz dem.

31 freetoken  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 7:09:22pm

re: #30 Charles Johnson

Indeed you can haz dem.

[Link: i.chzbgr.com…]

32 Locker  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 7:14:27pm

Well you do have to give it to Michelle. She parlayed nothing but stupidity and 2 weeks at cosmetology school into an actual career.

33 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 7:16:09pm

And here’s an Ebay auction for what may be the definative “wingnut figurine”. The seller doesn’t mean for his minis to be seen in a bad light, so please don’t give him a hard time, but I saw the listing and could not resist posting about it:

Image: 432-f-X.JPG

Image: 432-r-X.JPG

34 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 7:17:59pm
35 freetoken  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 7:19:57pm

re: #33 Dark_Falcon

I imagine wingnut armchair generals buying thousands of those little figurines, and setting up in their basement a huge map of their city, so they can play out scenarios of urban warfare as the “Patriots” fight off the gubmint goons.

36 freetoken  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 7:22:17pm

Listening to Otto Olsson’s Requiem in G:
[Link: www.amazon.com…]

Recommended. It’s also a good anti-wingnut salve.

37 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 7:22:39pm

re: #35 freetoken

I imagine wingnut armchair generals buying thousands of those little figurines, and setting up in their basement a huge map of their city, so they can play out scenarios of urban warfare as the “Patriots” fight off the gubmint goons.

Well to be fair, I am bidding on one of that fellow’s other auctions. He’s selling MLN-1A Merlin mini. In the Battletech scifi universe it’s a 60-ton walking war machine, in the real world the mini is quite rare.

38 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 7:25:25pm

re: #37 Dark_Falcon

Well to be fair, I am bidding on one of that fellow’s other auctions. He’s selling MLN-1A Merlin mini. In the Battletech scifi universe it’s a 60-ton walking war machine, in the real world the mini is quite rare.

Update: I just won the auction and at a good price.

39 freetoken  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 7:25:55pm

Oh, you can buy it piecemeal a la mp3 also:

[Link: www.amazon.com…]

40 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 7:31:49pm

Zombie-Dog

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41 Gus  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 7:33:36pm

re: #40 NJDhockeyfan

Zombie-Dog

Image: image.jpg

Ugh.

42 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 7:34:42pm

re: #41 Gus

Ugh.

A doggie haircut like that must be a crime.

43 jaunte  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 7:35:42pm

Breaking new ground on the “give a dog a bone” concept.

44 Inner Partisan  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 7:40:01pm

Sorry for the OT, but I just *have* to share this:

Translation (of the chorus):
Jeder woass, dass a geld nit auf da wiesen wächst
Und essen kann ma’s a nit aber brenna tat’s guat
Aber hoazen toan ma woazen und de ruabn und den kukuruz
Wann ma lang so weiter hoazen brennt da huat!

Everybody knows, that money doesn’t grow on trees
And you can’t eat it, yet it’d burn rather well
But we burn the Wheat and the Beets and the Corn
And if we keep on burning like this, our hats/huts [I’m not sure] will burn!


Yes, it’s a song about climate change. And it’s just so fucking awesome!

45 Romantic Heretic  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 7:40:53pm

re: #37 Dark_Falcon

Well to be fair, I am bidding on one of that fellow’s other auctions. He’s selling MLN-1A Merlin mini. In the Battletech scifi universe it’s a 60-ton walking war machine, in the real world the mini is quite rare.

I’m a Timber Wolf fan myself.

46 Gus  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 7:44:05pm

re: #44 Inner Partisan

Sorry for the OT, but I just *have* to share this:

[Embedded content]

Translation (of the chorus):
Jeder woass, dass a geld nit auf da wiesen wächst
Und essen kann ma’s a nit aber brenna tat’s guat
Aber hoazen toan ma woazen und de ruabn und den kukuruz
Wann ma lang so weiter hoazen brennt da huat!

Everybody knows, that money doesn’t grow on trees
And you can’t eat it, yet it’d burn rather well
But we burn the Wheat and the Beets and the Corn
And if we keep on burning like this, our hats/huts [I’m not sure] will burn!

Yes, it’s a song about climate change. And it’s just so fucking awesome!

I click on that video and it disappears.

47 Inner Partisan  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 7:45:11pm

re: #46 Gus

Sorry, editing fail. It should work now.

48 Gus  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 7:46:03pm

re: #47 Inner Partisan

Sorry, editing fail. It should work now.

Got it.

49 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 7:48:39pm

re: #45 Romantic Heretic

I’m a Timber Wolf fan myself.

So am I. But I already have several of those, and the scenario I’m planning is set in 3039, ten years prior to the first encounter between an Inner Sphere unit and the T-Wolf. Thus the lower tech, but still relatively new unit (the design had only been in production for 29 years at that point). It will however be in the hands of Wolf’s Dragoon’s though, so you’ll get some of what you like if you’re in the Chicago area.

50 prairiefire  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 7:52:31pm

This Malkin chick reminds me of my right leaning Japanese mom in law. Internment camps? “I would have done the same thing” in that circumstance.
Lazy thinking!

51 Inner Partisan  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 7:54:20pm

re: #49 Dark_Falcon

So am I. But I already have several of those, and the scenario I’m planning is set in 3039, ten years prior to the first encounter between an Inner Sphere unit and the T-Wolf. Thus the lower tech, but still relatively new unit (the design had only been in production for 29 years at that point). It will however be in the hands of Wolf’s Dragoon’s though, so you’ll get some of what you like if you’re in the Chicago area.

Sorry for jumping in here, but: How did the Universe develop in the last ~15 years? I stopped following Battle Tech around ‘99 or so (I read a *lot* of the official novels, but only played the “classic” game, i.e. strictly Inner Sphere “Tech”), when the Clans were pretty much in a stalemate with the Houses.

Sorry, pretty specific question. It’s 5am, and I’m kinda (or rather: very) drunk.

52 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 7:56:01pm
53 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 7:57:59pm

re: #51 Inner Partisan

Sorry for jumping in here, but: How did the Universe develop in the last ~15 years? I stopped following Battle Tech around ‘99 or so (I read a *lot* of the official novels, but only played the “classic” game, i.e. strictly Inner Sphere “Tech”), when the Clans were pretty much in a stalemate with the Houses.

Sorry, pretty specific question. It’s 5am, and I’m kinda (or rather: very) drunk.

There’s been some serious developments. There was a massive Jihad, and when it ended every world within 120 light years of Terra got Stoned.

See this timeline for more info.

54 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 8:02:39pm

re: #53 Dark_Falcon

There’s been some serious developments. There was a massive Jihad, and when it ended every world within 120 light years of Terra got Stoned.

See this timeline for more info.

It only goes to 3550? What the hell, man?
//

55 CriticalDragon1177  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 8:03:24pm

Charles Johnson,

Why am not surprised that Malkin is supporting Geller?

56 Inner Partisan  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 8:04:17pm

re: #53 Dark_Falcon

Sounds, uhm, exciting.
I’ve got some friends who I’ve *finally* convinced to pick up a “serious” miniature game, and Warhammer 40K is way to expensive.
(Of course, none of those squares would ever play anything Pen&Paper.
No-hoooo, that D&D-shit is just too nerdy!)

57 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 8:07:13pm
58 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 8:15:32pm

re: #56 Inner Partisan

Sounds, uhm, exciting.
I’ve got some friends who I’ve *finally* convinced to pick up a “serious” miniature game, and Warhammer 40K is way to expensive.
(Of course, none of those squares would ever play anything Pen&Paper.
No-hoooo, that D&D-shit is just too nerdy!)

If you mean to get back into Battletech, visit the game’s forums to learn more about what’s going on.

The initial purchase is the new core rulebook, Total Warfare.

59 prairiefire  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 8:16:46pm

re: #57 NJDhockeyfan

Zach as the moving avatar!

60 Gus  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 8:23:34pm
61 freetoken  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 8:24:42pm

re: #60 Gus

Instant internet superstar.

62 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 8:25:17pm

re: #60 Gus

GAH, Cuteness overload! Blood…starting to….crystallize….

[DF collapses onto his desk]

63 Gus  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 8:26:20pm
64 AntonSirius  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 8:37:01pm

re: #33 Dark_Falcon

And here’s an Ebay auction for what may be the definative “wingnut figurine”. The seller doesn’t mean for his minis to be seen in a bad light, so please don’t give him a hard time, but I saw the listing and could not resist posting about it:

Image: 432-f-X.JPG

Image: 432-r-X.JPG

The Elvis sideburns are a nice touch

65 palomino  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 8:51:47pm

re: #10 Vicious Babushka

This made me throw up in my mouth.

Pam and Jim keep their clothes on during an orgy? That’s just sick and perverse.

No wonder they’re so uptight.

66 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 8:56:46pm

re: #65 palomino

Pam and Jim keep their clothes on during an orgy? That’s just sick and perverse.

No wonder they’re so uptight.

Take it as a Battlemaster-sized act of mercy: What has been Seen cannot be Unseen.

67 freetoken  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 9:38:36pm

Having spent some time lately reading genetics/ancestry forums it has become all too clear that the probabilistic nature of genetics/ancestry/inheritance is a stumbling block for a very many people.

In general, dealing with probabilities is counter intuitive even to the most mathematically inclined of us.

Yet I have to wonder if a big part of the problem is the math-phobia that is handed down during grade school.

There’s something to be said for bringing in a craps table and some dice into school… though your local goody-2-shoes would not approve.

68 Gus  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 9:39:25pm
69 freetoken  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 9:44:34pm

re: #68 Gus

Hehe… send him this.

70 Gus  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 9:46:12pm

re: #69 freetoken

Hehe… send him this.

Never fails. Whenever I hashtag to EDL I typically get 1 or more freaks.

71 wrenchwench  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 9:46:44pm

re: #69 freetoken

Hehe… send him this.

Apply Gus’s One Weird Tip:

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72 makeitstop  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 9:50:28pm

An interesting recast of The Beatles’ ‘Hey Jude…

Works way better than all those minor-key songs transposed to major keys.

73 Gus  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 9:54:29pm
74 prairiefire  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 9:56:55pm

re: #67 freetoken

We can’t afford too many craps gamblers. They don’t support more than their insular society.
I’m a big fan of public utility workers.

75 freetoken  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 9:57:58pm

re: #74 prairiefire

And a BlackJack table too… every school should have one.

76 prairiefire  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 10:04:49pm

re: #75 freetoken

And a BlackJack table too… every school should have one.

That is called “mathematics”.

77 Gus  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 10:04:56pm

Ah Cuh, Cuh, Cuh, Casuals United. The UK has some really weird people.

78 freetoken  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 10:08:00pm

re: #77 Gus

Well, in a thousand years, after the fall of modernity, what is left of the population in the UK will need to flee to higher ground/less depleted soil and there will be an exodus, perhaps to a greener Greenland, or maybe Newfoundland, and all the current stupidity will be long forgotten.

79 Gus  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 10:13:54pm

re: #78 freetoken

Well, in a thousand years, after the fall of modernity, what is left of the population in the UK will need to flee to higher ground/less depleted soil and there will be an exodus, perhaps to a greener Greenland, or maybe Newfoundland, and all the current stupidity will be long forgotten.

Image: Casuals_United.jpg

80 Gus  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 10:15:49pm
81 Gus  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 10:17:07pm

These aren’t small protests either. In the USA some neo-Nazis or KKK protest organize and a dozen show up. In the UK you’ll get 100s to 1000s.

82 freetoken  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 10:19:30pm

re: #79 Gus

Image: Casuals_United.jpg

I wonder what my 29th great grandfather, William, would think of them?

83 Gus  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 10:25:46pm

re: #82 freetoken

I wonder what my 29th great grandfather, William, would think of them?

No telling. EDL, BNP, Casuals United… the cream of the crop of the anglosphere. Ha!

84 Gus  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 10:29:24pm
85 Gus  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 10:30:48pm

Far Right takes over Putin’s day of unity to muscle in on opposition

Foreigners were urged to stay at home as thousands of ultra-nationalists marched through Moscow, some holding banners in the imperial black, yellow and white

Shouting “Russia for the Russians”, “long live Breivik” and anti-immigrant slogans, thousands of ultra-nationalists wound their way along the embankment of the Moskva River through the heart of the capital yesterday in an extraordinary attempt to establish their credentials as a significant opposition force…

86 Gus  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 10:37:48pm

Watch the video here.

87 freetoken  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 10:40:41pm
88 Gus  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 10:40:57pm

Europe. Home to Nazi Germany. Home to the Vichy French. Home to Francisco Franco.

89 freetoken  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 10:42:40pm

re: #88 Gus

In browsing the genetic genealogy forums, it becomes clear very quickly how ethnic-identity-centric humans are. It turns out that we here in the US aren’t doing so bad on a global scale - we handle diversity better than many places.

90 Gus  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 10:43:17pm

Wow.

91 Gus  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 10:44:55pm

Damn. Greece is fucked up.

92 darthstar  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 10:53:24pm

Nice little hike around the coast today…found this old bridge along the trail.

Image: 12252_10152574316985580_683358547_n.jpg

93 freetoken  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 11:02:09pm

This seems appropriate:

94 freetoken  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 11:02:58pm

re: #92 darthstar

Nice little hike around the coast today…found this old bridge along the trail.

Image: 12252_10152574316985580_683358547_n.jpg

Looks rusty… about to fall down.

95 Gus  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 11:10:25pm

Golden Dawn = Breitbart

96 Gus  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 11:20:50pm

re: #14 Killgore Trout

Ah, for the good old days when that sort of thing was rightly frowned upon.

I saw what you did here but kept quiet about it. Actually, no.

97 Gus  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 11:22:30pm
98 prairiefire  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 11:25:32pm

re: #97 Gus

President Torture and Abduction.

99 Mich-again  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 11:29:40pm

re: #97 Gus

I wouldn’t want to be within 100 feet of that cat..

100 Gus  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 11:33:15pm

re: #98 prairiefire

President Torture and abduction.

A desperate man in desperate circumstances.

101 Gus  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 11:33:28pm
102 Gus  Sat, Mar 2, 2013 11:41:28pm
103 freetoken  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 1:07:17am
104 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 1:14:36am

re: #21 Tigger2

Jim Hoft,,,,, It’s an Obama World… Most Americans Can No Longer Afford New Cars. Thats not Obama World I have been unable to afford a new car since Reagan. So for me it’s Reagan World.

If America measures its prosperity interms of “two cars in every garage”, then we are in trouble, yes…

105 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 1:17:39am

re: #88 Gus

Europe. Home to Nazi Germany. Home to the Vichy French. Home to Francisco Franco.

Ancestral home of most Americans.

106 Kragar (Antichrist )  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 1:59:34am

So a buddy invited the wife and I to a party.

He neglected to tell us before hand it was a swinger’s party.

A bisexual swinger’s party.

And they were having a transgender night.

Its been an interesting evening to put it mildly.

107 EdDantes  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 1:59:49am

re: #92 darthstar

Nice little hike around the coast today…found this old bridge along the trail.

Image: 12252_10152574316985580_683358547_n.jpg

Looks Gothic. Probably allowed the Goths to invade neighboring Sausalito.

108 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 2:01:46am

re: #106 Kragar (Antichrist )

So a buddy invited the wife and I to a party.

He neglected to tell us before hand it was a swinger’s party.

A bisexual swinger’s party.

And they were having a transgender night.

Its been an interesting evening to put it mildly.

We trust that you let these people know that they were despicable sinners who not only are falling short of the Kingdom of God, but are endangering your marriage and American society as a whole.

/

109 Kragar (Antichrist )  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 2:02:49am

re: #108 Sol Berdinowitz

We trust that you let these people know that they were despicable sinners who not only are falling short of the Kingdom of God, but are endangering your marriage and American society as a whole.

/

It slipped our minds.

110 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 2:03:36am

re: #109 Kragar (Antichrist )

It slipped our minds.

They you have become infected by their LGBT ideology. YOu will have to be cleansed along with the rest.

/

111 Kragar (Antichrist )  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 2:08:48am

re: #110 Sol Berdinowitz

They you have become infected by their LGBT ideology. YOu will have to be cleansed along with the rest.

/

Pff, figured that was going to happen anyways.

Wife spent the night talking about clothes and cooking and I spent a good two hours talking to a gorgeous girl who had served 2 combat tours as an Army Ranger before getting out and beginning HRT.

Bryan Fischer can piss right off.

112 RadicalModerate  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 2:19:20am

re: #20 Charles Johnson

The CPAC 2013 schedule:

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I notice that two groups with very direct ties to white nationalist organizations have a prominent role in this year’s CPAC. Both the Young America’s Foundation and Leadership Institute are hosting panels at the main hall.

So, to answer your question, Geller/Spencer and Malkin should be right at home there.

113 Kragar (Antichrist )  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 2:20:30am

re: #112 RadicalModerate

I notice that two groups with very direct ties to white nationalist organizations have a prominent role in this year’s CPAC. Both the Young America’s Foundation and Leadership Institute are hosting panels at the main hall.

I hate American Nazis.

114 EdDantes  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 2:42:04am

re: #113 Kragar (Antichrist )

I hate American Nazis.

Which Nazis do you like?

115 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 2:47:45am

re: #114 EdDantes

Which Nazis do you like?

I especially despise Nazis who equate Fascism with any sort of patriotism.

Especially in Germany. If you read Hitler’s last will and testament, he expresses his opinion that the German people deserved to be wiped out because they failed the cause of fascism, they were not capable of realizing the Nazi ideology, they were weak and unworthy of such a great leader.

That has nothing to do with patriotism, that is a sick, inhuman ideology.

116 Kragar (Antichrist )  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 2:48:47am

re: #114 EdDantes

Which Nazis do you like?

The dead ones

117 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 2:58:48am

I have to concede that they had the snazziest uniforms and the coolest tanks. Germans have a lot of trouble with the concept that we dig their equipment without buying into their ideology. Even as a kid I always let them beat the British first before the Americans came to save them.

118 EdDantes  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 3:04:56am

re: #116 Kragar (Antichrist )

The dead ones

Correct. Naziism died with Hitler in 1945. Anything since is a reactionary shadow of the darkest period in world history. Hitler wanted to restore a form of the Roman empire with himself as Caesar and fell short. Any modern “Nazis” are a shadow of a shadow.

119 EdDantes  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 3:14:41am

re: #117 Sol Berdinowitz

I also admire the German soldiers and general staff as consummate warriors but I hate the ideology they were fighting for. George S. Patton also respected the Wehrmacht but hated what they represented.
And yes, without Patton, Monty would still be attempting his “dagger thrust” into the heart of Germany.

121 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 4:36:10am

And from Scotland we have this…

Scottish Defence League moron is a Nazi piece of work

A LEADING member of the sinister far-right Scottish Defence League is today unmasked as a vile racist with links to outlawed neo-Nazis.

The Scottish Sun can reveal hate-filled bigot Paul Newlands is a major driving force behind the prejudice and tensions stirred up by the extremist faction.

He was snapped in Berwick last month at an SDL demo now under investigation by police over sickening racist chants. And the tattoo-covered rabble-rouser uses Facebook and Twitter to spout his bile.

Organisers of the SDL — an offshoot of the English Defence League — insist it is NOT racist, but is a protest group opposing immigration and Islamic fundamentalism in the UK. But our investigation has uncovered widespread racism within its ranks — including links to banned Nazi outfit Combat 18 and Greek fascists Golden Dawn.

122 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 4:39:40am

re: #85 Gus

Far Right takes over Putin’s day of unity to muscle in on opposition

“Long live Brevik!”?! Those fuckers exemplify the lack of concern for the lives of others so often seen from extremists, even more so in Russia than in other places.

123 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 4:42:56am

re: #37 Dark_Falcon

Well to be fair, I am bidding on one of that fellow’s other auctions. He’s selling MLN-1A Merlin mini. In the Battletech scifi universe it’s a 60-ton walking war machine, in the real world the mini is quite rare.

Speaking of massive walking war machines, here’s the trailer for Guillermo Del Toro’s kaiju homage, “Pacific Rim”:

124 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 4:45:35am

re: #117 Sol Berdinowitz

I have to concede that they had the snazziest uniforms and the coolest tanks. Germans have a lot of trouble with the concept that we dig their equipment without buying into their ideology. Even as a kid I always let them beat the British first before the Americans came to save them.

Their late-war tanks weren’t always better. The T-35/85 was actually superior to the Panther in a number of ways, being faster with better cross-country performance, much more reliable, and its 85mm gun had a better high-explosive shell than did the Panther’s 75mm L/70.

125 mgardener  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 5:09:06am

I have called her Malicious Malkin for years. I feel sorry for her kids.

126 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 5:12:13am

re: #124 Dark_Falcon

Their late-war tanks weren’t always better. The T-35/85 was actually superior to the Panther in a number of ways, being faster with better cross-country performance, much more reliable, and its 85mm gun had a better high-explosive shell than did the Panther’s 75mm L/70.

The German tanks simply looked cooler. Their Jagdpanther was simply the Mercedes SLK roadster of AFV’s.

But while you could fix a T-34 or a Sherman with some bailing wire and a big hammer, German tanks had to be sent to the rear repair areas for maintenance.

127 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 5:29:05am

re: #126 Sol Berdinowitz

The German tanks simply looked cooler. Their Jagdpanther was simply the Mercedes SLK roadster of AFV’s.

But while you could fix a T-34 or a Sherman with some bailing wire and a big hammer, German tanks had to be sent to the rear repair areas for maintenance.

That’s true. The Jagdpanther had great looks and more than one book on WWII tanks has noted that its 88mm gun “put the fear of God into Allied tankers”. But even with that, it ended out outclassed by the Soviet SU-100. This was again largely due to mobility and reliability concerns. While the Jagdpanther had better optics, the SU-100 actually had a better gun for both HE and AP work.

What made the difference was that the Soviet TD was more reliable than its German counterpart (due in part to the fact that it did not use slave labor in its construction) and had greater speed cross-country. That said, the Jagdpanther did have one final advantage: it’s neutral steering allowed it to turn in place, which the SU-100 could not do. But again, the system that allowed it to do so was complex and difficult to maintain.

128 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 5:33:58am

re: #127 Dark_Falcon

The problem is bigger than any individual tank. Not only was every tank tricky and crotchety, but they all took very different parts. Fielding so many tanks and even versions of tanks with incompatible repairs was a logistical nightmare.

129 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 5:40:21am

re: #128 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

The problem is bigger than any individual tank. Not only was every tank tricky and crotchety, but they all took very different parts. Fielding so many tanks and even versions of tanks with incompatible repairs was a logistical nightmare.

Exactly. By contrast, the Sherman’s part (aside from the engine) were cross-compatible until the introduction of the HVSS suspension. And even then, the new system was relatively easy to maintain.

Moreover, the US made it a policy to base as many types of unit as possible off of the same chassis, which greatly simplified logistics.

130 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 5:50:13am

re: #129 Dark_Falcon

Exactly. By contrast, the Sherman’s part (aside from the engine) were cross-compatible until the introduction of the HVSS suspension. And even then, the new system was relatively easy to maintain.

Moreover, the US made it a policy to base as many types of unit as possible off of the same chassis, which greatly simplified logistics.

I also saw a documentary about the German Panthers equipped with hand-tooled Bosch engline bearings that had a life expectancy of up to 10 years.

Except tht most tanks in the field had a life expectancy of less than a year, and tank designs in general were outdated within five years.

131 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 5:58:02am

re: #130 Sol Berdinowitz

And the life of a complex system is the life of its least-well-engineered part.

132 NomadicView  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 5:58:10am

Why should anybody give a rat’s ass what either one of them think about anything?

133 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 5:59:05am

re: #132 NomadicView

Why should anybody give a rat’s ass what either one of them think about anything?

In an ideal world, nobody would. In this world, since a lot of people are convinced by what they say, what they think is unfortunately important.

134 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 5:59:12am

re: #130 Sol Berdinowitz

I also saw a documentary about the German Panthers equipped with hand-tooled Bosch engline bearings that had a life expectancy of up to 10 years.

Except that most tanks in the field had a life expectancy of less than a year, and tank designs in general were outdated within five years.

The bearings would indeed last that long… if they were properly made, that is. But examination of more that one Panther being restored has shown sabotaged bearings that were improperly made or had metal shavings put into their grease.

The US, UK, USSR, and even Japan were able to solve at least some of their labor problems by using their own women to handle many manufacturing tasks, but Nazi ideology ran counter to such ideas and preferred the use of foreign slaves. The implications of this are obvious.

135 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 6:03:56am

re: #134 Dark_Falcon

It’s hard to get accurate figures on how much of the German war production was sabotaged, but we know from survivor accounts that there was sabotage, and we have action reports of enormous amounts of German dud shells.

In contrast, the women workers in the US has every incentive in the world to do the best possible job they could.

136 Flounder  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 6:10:30am

If you can stomach it, the Romney’s are on Fox news Sunday. Boo hoo and all that, grab a hanky.

137 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 6:27:01am

re: #136 Flounder

If you can stomach it, the Romney’s are on Fox news Sunday. Boo hoo and all that, grab a hanky.

If Mitt were smart, he’d address the sequester in terms of some of the cuts he’d advise making to reduce its impact. Tout his record for getting rid of waste at business he turned around, that sort of thing. Far better to look the problem solver than the whiner.

138 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 6:28:38am

re: #137 Dark_Falcon

If Mitt were smart, he’d address the sequester in terms of some of the cuts he’d advise making to reduce its impact. Tout his record for getting rid of waste at business he turned around, that sort of thing. Far better to look the problem solver than the whiner.

He doesn’t actually have a solution, though. We’ve already cut huge amounts from the budget.

I don’t get the right-wing fascination with cutting spending. Businesses do not look to cut spending. They look to cut costs. That the two are always conflated by those in the GOP shows the Democrats having a far better grasp of business sense, even in the lame “treat the government like a business” analogy.

139 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 6:30:31am

Here’s some great WWI propaganda posters for no reason at all:

Image: 8MObe.jpg

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Image: JRAde.jpg

140 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 6:33:23am

Yo.

141 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 6:34:09am

re: #140 Varek Raith

Yo.

Hey. I posted a reply to you on the shotgun Page.

142 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 6:35:59am

re: #141 Dark_Falcon

Hey. I posted a reply to you on the shotgun Page.

That’s what I get for not reading.
Sheesh.

143 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 6:40:54am

My computer restarted without warning.
Concerning…

144 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 6:41:28am

re: #143 Varek Raith

Not just a Windows update?

145 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 6:43:39am

re: #144 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Not just a Windows update?

Nope.
This was in the event log.

The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck

146 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 6:44:43am

re: #145 Varek Raith

Nope.
This was in the event log.

Probably a driver fucking you over.

147 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 6:52:06am

Alright, now this is rolling around in my mind. I’ll probably expand this to a page later, but since you’re here, Dark, I’ll ask you.

The GOP constantly talks about being businesslike, cutting spending, how having a deficit is irresponsible, etc. Yet these are not business concepts, and I don’t get how they’ve convinced their adherents that they are.

Any company with any sort of strategic vision or plan, not just for expansion but in general, will take on debt, especially when interest rates are very low. In fact, it was part of Bain’s capital strategy to have companies acquire frankly huge amounts of debt, so having Romney as the paragon of deficit reduction is just insane.

In addition, companies do not seek to cut spending. Spending is just spending— if you cut spending, you’re cutting output. If you cut costs, then you can lower spending, or use the money you saved to put forward into other areas where your company meets it. No company simply has the goal of spending less, they want to get the optimal results for the spending.

So how come the GOP, the supposedly business-savy party, doesn’t understand this? How come that, even after making the wrong and terrible analogy between government and a business, they then overlook that businesses take on large amounts of debt all the time, that businesses (well-run businesses) don’t just slash spending?

148 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 6:52:30am

It’s hal.dll.

149 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 6:54:14am

Started Spring Cleaning today. This should give me more of a workout than my usual Sunday morning at the pool.

My bookcases are just totally falling apart, not to mention the layers of paint are peeling off at different layers so it look leprous. Maybe a trip down to the Store of Evil this afternoon for a couple of Billys.

150 Lidane  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 6:57:05am

re: #117 Sol Berdinowitz

I have to concede that they had the snazziest uniforms

Well, they were wearing couture. The Nazis were dressed by Hugo Boss.

151 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 6:57:38am

Unexpected Kernel Mode trap.

I hate software debugging.
This is why I’m a hardware guy.

152 Decatur Deb  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 6:57:45am

‘Morning, all. We are offered two decent—>spectacular comets this year. PANSTARRS arrives this mid-month, might be ‘memorable’. At any rate, it is good practice for ISON, which gets here in Nov. ISON might be the comet of the generation.

PANSTARRS page: [Link: www.astropixels.com…]

I’ve ordered a pair of decent:cheap Celestron astro binoculars via Amazon, which I thinks still kicks back a smidgen to Charles.

[Link: www.amazon.com…]

153 Flounder  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 6:58:04am

re: #149 Vicious Babushka

Never afraid to show my ignorance,[Link: www.urbandictionary.com…]
I don’t know what a Billy is

154 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 6:58:22am

re: #152 Decatur Deb

What are the odds of a Mars hit?

155 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 6:58:55am

re: #153 Flounder

Never afraid to show my ignorance,[Link: www.urbandictionary.com…]
I don’t know what a Billy is

It’s a goat.

156 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 6:59:25am

re: #153 Flounder

Never afraid to show my ignorance,[Link: www.urbandictionary.com…]
I don’t know what a Billy is

Billy.

157 Lidane  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 7:00:35am

re: #138 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

I don’t get the right-wing fascination with cutting spending. Businesses do not look to cut spending. They look to cut costs. That the two are always conflated by those in the GOP shows the Democrats having a far better grasp of business sense, even in the lame “treat the government like a business” analogy.

Republcians don’t understand business. They understand greed.

Whatever maximizes the profit margin, even if it hurts people, is what they want. And if they have to destroy the American economy and hurt millions of people so that Grover Norquist doesn’t have to pay taxes, so much the better.

158 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 7:00:58am

re: #147 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

The answer is ‘messaging’ followed by the specifics of the current situation. “Skilled at business” plays well to the public, so it is used even if it does not translate on a given issue. “Cutting government spending” in the abstract also plays well with those who are concerned about overpowered and intrusive government.

The second part is explained more briefly, in that while businesses do take on substantial debts often, it is not a good idea to do so when you are already swimming in red ink.

159 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 7:01:37am

Ok, it’s a double fault error.
Now, how to fix it from happening again…

160 Lidane  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 7:02:19am

re: #158 Dark_Falcon

The answer is ‘messaging’ followed by the specifics of the current situation. “Skilled at business” plays well to the public, so it is used even if it does not translate on a given issue.

So in other words, they’re full of of shit.

161 Decatur Deb  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 7:02:36am

re: #154 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

What are the odds of a Mars hit?

Last I read, next year’s Mars comet (not one of the above) should be a very close miss by the nucleus, with a high likelihood of lots of impacts from the small trash in the coma. Uncertainties from gassing off could give a small chance of nucleus impact at very high relative speed. Might be something for Hubble or our robots to see.

162 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 7:04:58am

re: #158 Dark_Falcon

The second part is explained more briefly, in that while businesses do take on substantial debts often, it is not a good idea to do so when you are already swimming in red ink.

This isn’t true, though, Dark, and I don’t understand why you think it is. Can you explain your reasoning here? One of the most standard strategies of a corporation that is losing to its competitors is to acquire more debt to enact a new strategy, retool, etc.

In addition, Bain, Romney’s baby, usually saddled the companies they acquired— companies swimming with red ink— with large debt loads, so what you’re saying isn’t even believed by Romney.

This goes beyond messaging, Dark. I’m not asking about messaging. I’m asking about the fact that the GOP does not really seem to understand business.

Maybe I am talking about messaging, but if I am, it’s that the GOP seems to have bought its own bullshit; maybe long ago this stuff was messaging, but now— as evidenced, I’m afraid, by your response— the hype and crude message has become the actual belief. You’re claiming that businesses don’t acquire debt when they’re in trouble, while talking about Romney, whose main business plan was getting companies to acquire debt when they’re in trouble.

163 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 7:07:38am

re: #154 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

What are the odds of a Mars hit?

Small, but it would be a huge impact.
Bigger than the dinosaur killer huge.

164 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 7:13:37am

re: #162 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

This isn’t true, though, Dark, and I don’t understand why you think it is. Can you explain your reasoning here? One of the most standard strategies of a corporation that is losing to its competitors is to acquire more debt to enact a new strategy, retool, etc.

In addition, Bain, Romney’s baby, usually saddled the companies they acquired— companies swimming with red ink— with large debt loads, so what you’re saying isn’t even believed by Romney.

This goes beyond messaging, Dark. I’m not asking about messaging. I’m asking about the fact that the GOP does not really seem to understand business.

Maybe I am talking about messaging, but if I am, it’s that the GOP seems to have bought its own bullshit; maybe long ago this stuff was messaging, but now— as evidenced, I’m afraid, by your response— the hype and crude message has become the actual belief. You’re claiming that businesses don’t acquire debt when they’re in trouble, while talking about Romney, whose main business plan was getting companies to acquire debt when they’re in trouble.

They do understand business, but it is difficult to get many of those who do to understand the differences between government and business.

Much of how government works, or fails to work for that matter, was unknown to me three years ago. It was only by selling events to government end users that I was able to speak to enough people within the government to get a decent view of its functioning. And if it was that for me (and I’m smarter and better informed than most people), imagine how confusing things might be to a rack-and-file party member.

165 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 7:15:19am

Malkin and Geller, no surprise there.

How is it this morning all?

166 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 7:15:54am

And it’s a bug in my nvidia driver.
Problem solved.
Cool beans.

167 Lidane  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 7:16:37am

Mitt Romney, bitter asshole:

Romney: ‘Obamacare’ Was Attractive To Minority, Low-Income Voters

So in other words, he lost because poor brown and black people want free stuff. Never mind the fact that Obamacare is nearly identical to Mitt’s own health care plan. He’s not president because lazy minorities wanted a handout.

Fuck him, and fuck the GOP. Thank goodness he lost. We’d be in deeper shit now with the Republicans in the presidency.

168 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 7:18:14am

re: #164 Dark_Falcon

They do understand business, but it is difficult to get many of those who do to understand the differences between government and business.

I don’t even see evidence that they understand business. I see, instead, signs that they don’t, like assertions that businesses in trouble shouldn’t acquire debt.

Much of how government works, or fails to work for that matter, was unknown to me three years ago. It was only by selling events to government end users that I was able to speak to enough people within the government to get a decent view of its functioning. And if it was that for me (and I’m smarter and better informed than most people), imagine how confusing things might be to a rack-and-file party member.

I’m talking about the leadership, though. Part of their job is to educate their party and their members. Instead, the GOP seems to engage with their membership solely by deceiving them— and this is a method you often seem to endorse.

169 Lidane  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 7:19:19am

re: #164 Dark_Falcon

And if it was that for me (and I’m smarter and better informed than most people), imagine how confusing things might be to a rack-and-file party member.

Maybe if your party had people in it who could explain the goddamn difference instead of relying on greedy fuckers like Grover Norquist, there would be more informed people who could make an actual conservative economic case that didn’t sound like Gordon Gekko.

170 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 7:19:47am

I’ve come to understand that debt is part of life. It’s not a bad thing, it’s been around since the beginning of people in some form or another.

We seem to have this Puritan attitude coming out of our collective political mouths about debt, but in practice nothing changes, because debt is a necessary part of finance.

171 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 7:23:37am

BBL.

172 Decatur Deb  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 7:23:57am

re: #167 Lidane

Mitt Romney, bitter asshole:

Romney: ‘Obamacare’ Was Attractive To Minority, Low-Income Voters

So in other words, he lost because poor brown and black people want free stuff. Never mind the fact that Obamacare is nearly identical to Mitt’s own health care plan. He’s not president because lazy minorities wanted a handout.

Fuck him, and fuck the GOP. Thank goodness he lost. We’d be in deeper shit now with the Republicans in the presidency.

Poor people’s reluctance to roll over and graciously die has always frustrated their betters.

173 kirkspencer  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 7:25:51am

re: #172 Decatur Deb

Poor people’s reluctance to roll over and graciously die has always frustrated their betters.

Yep, they keep getting above themselves; uppity, if you will. They are constantly revolting. They insist on upsetting the natural order.

174 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 7:26:21am

re: #168 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

I’m talking about the leadership, though. Part of their job is to educate their party and their members. Instead, the GOP seems to engage with their membership solely by deceiving them— and this is a method you often seem to endorse.

The party leadership hasn’t been able to act because their members have become accustomed to getting their political education from places like Fox News.

It needs to be remembered here that after the 2008 election the GOP was down for the standing 8 count, and a quick comeback was not expected. The rise of the Tea Party in the spring and summer of that year gave the party new strength, but it was all acquired from below and from outside sources, with neither vein well disposed to a party leadership they blamed for the drift and neglect of the party of George W. Bush’s second term.

While the surge was a good idea and his actions to combat AIDS in Africa were excellent, domestically George W. Bush screwed up by the numbers in his second term and one of the results of that has been a Republican Party leadership without much credibility with its own base.

175 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 7:35:07am

re: #174 Dark_Falcon

The party leadership hasn’t been able to act because their members have become accustomed to getting their political education from places like Fox News.

Which is something the party leadership has encouraged, so no, it’s not that they haven’t been able to act. They’ve been completely complicit. I’m surprised to see you not acknowledge this.

It needs to be remembered here that after the 2008 election the GOP was down for the standing 8 count, and a quick comeback was not expected. The rise of the Tea Party in the spring and summer of that year gave the party new strength, but it was all acquired from below and from outside sources, with neither vein well disposed to a party leadership they blamed for the drift and neglect of the party of George W. Bush’s second term.

This is absolutely untrue. The Tea Party was a Dick Armey production, along with a shitload of other GOP people. You do acknowledge this, right?

176 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 7:35:40am

Uch, I can’t believe the stuff I am finding in this closet.

A whole bunch of cables and power supplies for 1990’s computer peripherals. An HP deskjet from the ‘90’s. An HP Laserjet 6L.
A 1990’s era 14” monitor.
2 BRAND NEW KEYBOARDS (they are PS2 connector keyboards) that explains it.
A box of unused wedding invitations for my daughter who got married a year ago.
Bunch of 1980’s costume jewelry. I used to keep that for my granddaughters to play with, but they think it’s lame, so, toss.

177 Lidane  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 7:37:10am

re: #174 Dark_Falcon

The party leadership hasn’t been able to act because their members have become accustomed to getting their political education from places like Fox News.

Bullshit.

The party leadership are the ones working hand in hand with Faux News, Limbaugh, and the talk radio howler monkeys to keep that shitty political education going. They want their voters angry, resentful, and uninformed, because it’s easier to sell the failed Republican platform that way.

178 darthstar  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 7:37:24am

Good morning, people.

179 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 7:38:24am

A box full of DVD’s with Russian subtitles that we got in Moscow 6 years ago at the Pirate Market. We could have been SO BUSTED coming through customs with these. Gotta dump them.

180 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 7:40:32am

re: #179 Vicious Babushka

A box full of DVD’s with Russian subtitles that we got in Moscow 6 years ago at the Pirate Market. We could have been SO BUSTED coming through customs with these. Gotta dump them.

Drones have been dispatched to your location.

181 darthstar  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 7:40:53am

re: #167 Lidane

Mitt Romney, bitter asshole:

Romney: ‘Obamacare’ Was Attractive To Minority, Low-Income Voters
.

That’s one less bigot who will ever represent our country. I hope the GOP re-rips him a new asshole as he tries to come back to public life and act like he didn’t totally fuck them by being a classless teabagger-pandering douchebag throughout the 2012 campaign. It was sweet back in November when they all turned on him and said, “What the fuck were we thinking with this asshole?”

182 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 7:41:25am

re: #174 Dark_Falcon

The party leadership hasn’t been able to act because their members have become accustomed to getting their political education from places like Fox News.

They have no base. What is left of the part IS the theocratic Whackos that spew the message the rest of us reject.

183 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 7:42:22am

re: #181 darthstar

That’s one less bigot who will ever represent our country. I hope the GOP re-rips him a new asshole as he tries to come back to public life and act like he didn’t totally fuck them by being a classless teabagger-pandering douchebag throughout the 2012 campaign. It was sweet back in November when they all turned on him and said, “What the fuck were we thinking with this asshole?”

Romney is on a “mission from god”.

Don’t you understand?

184 kirkspencer  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 7:44:33am

re: #181 darthstar

That’s one less bigot who will ever represent our country. I hope the GOP re-rips him a new asshole as he tries to come back to public life and act like he didn’t totally fuck them by being a classless teabagger-pandering douchebag throughout the 2012 campaign. It was sweet back in November when they all turned on him and said, “What the fuck were we thinking with this asshole?”

eh, they’ll do it again in 2016.

Speaking of which, I’m beginning to think that the two names to watch for that year are Bush (Jeb) and Cruz. Jeb’s going to be the establishment candidate, Cruz the base candidate. There are other names to include as dark horses, but I really think those are the two to watch. Keep an eye out this year for subtle attacks from one to the other.

185 darthstar  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 7:44:57am

re: #183 FemNaziBitch

Romney is on a “mission from god”.

Any god who advocates the crap Romney spews needs to be ignored.

186 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 7:46:49am

Jimmah’s Post about the next possible Pope is scary, scary. Ghana has become synomymous with “kill the gays.”

187 Gus  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 7:48:36am

Gee. Could have sworn. RomneyCare.

188 Gus  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 7:50:57am

My name is Mitt Romney and I hate my former self.

189 darthstar  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 7:52:31am

re: #188 Gus

My name is Mitt Romney and I hate my former self.

Keep coming back(as someone else), Mitt…it works.

190 Gus  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 7:54:56am

re: #189 darthstar

Keep coming back(as someone else), Mitt…it works.

Sometimes within 24 hours. :O

191 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 7:56:29am

re: #190 Gus

Sometimes within 24 hours. :O

By the end of a sentence, on occasion.

192 Gus  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 8:01:55am
193 Gus  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 8:02:38am

The password is, solution.

194 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 8:04:25am

Reading stack traces is fun!
/

195 Gus  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 8:06:49am

Last chance saloon. I’m still chuckling.

196 darthstar  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 8:07:03am

re: #193 Gus

The password is, solution.

That was a great fucking game show…back when people read books and had vocabularies that enabled them to describe, in words, other words.

197 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 8:07:45am

re: #188 Gus

My name is Mitt Romney and I hate my former self.

You lost, Mitt. You don’t have to beat yourself up like this anymore. Those wingnuts can’t hurt you anymore.

198 Gus  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 8:08:21am

Unless it’s British. There’s always that possibility.

199 Gus  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 8:15:58am

re: #197 Dark_Falcon

You lost, Mitt. You don’t have to beat yourself up like this anymore. Those wingnuts can’t hurt you anymore.

The run up to 2016. That last chance saloon to save the party. :D

200 darthstar  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 8:16:35am

re: #197 Dark_Falcon

You lost, Mitt. You don’t have to beat yourself up like this anymore. Those wingnuts can’t hurt you anymore.

Sure they can…but first he has to ask them for forgiveness…and that starts by embracing his inner-bigot.

201 Gus  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 8:24:14am
202 Gus  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 8:24:46am

In any case. Reuters using a local metaphor for an international audience.

204 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 8:25:31am

re: #202 Gus

In any case. Reuters using a local metaphor for an international audience.

It’s not even a well-understood one in English. I don’t know what it really means.

205 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 8:28:09am

Who Knew?

Jack London, Last Chance Saloon listed in California.

206 darthstar  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 8:28:13am

re: #203 Killgore Trout

Pakistan Karachi bomb blast kills at least 24

It takes a lot to wake you up in the morning.

207 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 8:33:02am

Iran building ‘3,000 centrifuges’

Iranian media paraphrased Fereydoun Abbasi-Davani, the head of Iran’s Atomic Energy Organisation, as saying Iran was producing 3,000 new-generation centrifuges.

“The final production line of these centrifuges has reached an end and soon the early generations of these centrifuges with low efficiency will be set aside,” Mr Abbasi-Davani said, according to the Fars news agency.

The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) said earlier this year that 180 so-called IR-2m centrifuges and empty centrifuge casings had been put in place at the facility near the town of Natanz in central Iran. They were not yet operating.

If launched successfully, such machines could enable Iran to speed up significantly its accumulation of material that the West fears could be used for nuclear weapons. Iran says it is refining uranium only for peaceful purposes.

208 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 8:36:29am
Given all this, is it really that surprising that tantrums happen as frequently as they do? There are certainly good and bad ways for parents to handle poor behavior (an issue for another column), but the existence of tantrums, and the tendency for toddlers to tackle their woes through screaming and hitting and throwing, is perfectly normal because it’s sometimes “the toddler’s only recourse,” says Tovah Klein, director of the Barnard College Center for Toddler Development. If your universe were amazing and terrifying and frustrating and unpredictable, and you didn’t have good communication skills or a whole lot of experience or much of a frontal lobe, you’d freak the fuck out every once in a while, too.
209 b_sharp  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 8:36:49am

re: #67 freetoken

Having spent some time lately reading genetics/ancestry forums it has become all too clear that the probabilistic nature of genetics/ancestry/inheritance is a stumbling block for a very many people.

In general, dealing with probabilities is counter intuitive even to the most mathematically inclined of us.

Yet I have to wonder if a big part of the problem is the math-phobia that is handed down during grade school.

There’s something to be said for bringing in a craps table and some dice into school… though your local goody-2-shoes would not approve.

The ‘new math’ is an exercise intended to help kids understand the relationship between numbers rather than just memorizing algorithms. It was found that the kids who did well in math picked up the relationships early and kids who did poorly never did pick up the relationships and the insistence of memorization over understanding overloaded them and made them fearful of failing. The right doesn’t understand this.

Bringing things like dice, coloured balls, and simple mechanical randomizers like a board covered in pins, goes a long way toward helping kids understand how probability works at an intuitive level.

210 darthstar  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 8:37:50am

re: #207 Killgore Trout

Iran building ‘3,000 centrifuges’

I saw the 3,000…loved Gerard Butler’s character.

211 Gus  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 8:40:02am
212 Lidane  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 8:40:23am

re: #197 Dark_Falcon

You lost, Mitt. You don’t have to beat yourself up like this anymore. Those wingnuts can’t hurt you anymore.

1. He’s not beating himself up. He’s a bitter asshole because he realizes that his money, his craven lying, and his pandering to the bigots and mouth-breathers couldn’t buy him the White House.

2. You’re talking about the same wingnuts he got on his knees for to get the GOP nomination. They didn’t hurt him. He just has sore knees.

213 Gus  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 8:42:21am

FARS…

I think Iran should have announced that they’re building 30 billion centrifuges. :D

214 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 8:43:03am

re: #209 b_sharp

The ‘new math’ is an exercise intended to help kids understand the relationship between numbers rather than just memorizing algorithms. It was found that the kids who did well in math picked up the relationships early and kids who did poorly never did pick up the relationships and the insistence of memorization over understanding overloaded them and made them fearful of failing. The right doesn’t understand this.

Bringing things like dice, coloured balls, and simple mechanical randomizers like a board covered in pins, goes a long way toward helping kids understand how probability works at an intuitive level.

New Math fucked me up.

215 b_sharp  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 8:44:23am

re: #176 Vicious Babushka

Uch, I can’t believe the stuff I am finding in this closet.

A whole bunch of cables and power supplies for 1990’s computer peripherals. An HP deskjet from the ‘90’s. An HP Laserjet 6L.
A 1990’s era 14” monitor.
2 BRAND NEW KEYBOARDS (they are PS2 connector keyboards) that explains it.
A box of unused wedding invitations for my daughter who got married a year ago.
Bunch of 1980’s costume jewelry. I used to keep that for my granddaughters to play with, but they think it’s lame, so, toss.

Any skeletons?

216 efuseakay  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 8:45:24am

re: #188 Gus

My name is Mitt Romney and I hate my former self.

Retroactively, at that.

217 b_sharp  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 8:46:33am

re: #214 FemNaziBitch

New Math fucked me up.

Which part?

218 Stanley Sea  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 8:46:38am

CL here?

I’m watching Inocente.

219 b_sharp  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 8:47:46am

re: #218 Stanley Sea

CL here?

I’m watching Inocente.

I don’t know if CL is here, but the place is just crawling with !CLs.

220 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 8:50:03am

re: #217 b_sharp

Which part?

Somewhere around “thou will reverse and multiply”

221 darthstar  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 8:51:44am

re: #220 FemNaziBitch

Somewhere around “thou will reverse and multiply”

Invert, not reverse!

222 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 8:52:39am

re: #221 darthstar

Invert, not reverse!

see

223 darthstar  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 8:52:42am
224 b_sharp  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 8:52:54am

re: #220 FemNaziBitch

Somewhere around “thou will reverse and multiply”

That sounds like algorithm memorization. New math was the introduction of things like set theory and number systems was it not?

225 Stanley Sea  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 8:52:56am

Best Documentary Short

Filmed in San Diego.

Just excellent.

[Link: pocho.com…]

226 darthstar  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 8:54:26am

re: #223 darthstar

Image: Npizs.gif

Just in case anyone is wondering, that’s 1,000 words on how I feel about Mitt Romney’s return from whatever hole he was hiding in the last few months.

227 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 8:56:06am

re: #224 b_sharp

That sounds like algorithm memorization. New math was the introduction of things like set theory and number systems was it not?

I think it had to do with fractions. Fifth grade math.

Actually, I blame the nuns. They scared the shit out of me, it’s amazing I learned anything.

228 b_sharp  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 8:57:03am

re: #226 darthstar

Just in case anyone is wondering, that’s 1,000 words on how I feel about Mitt Romney’s return from whatever hole he was hiding in the last few months.

A picture is worth a thousand words. I have no idea how many words a moving picture is worth.

229 dragonath  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 8:59:00am
230 Gus  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 8:59:51am
231 b_sharp  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:00:09am

re: #227 FemNaziBitch

I think it had to do with fractions. Fifth grade math.

Actually, I blame the nuns. They scared the shit out of me, it’s amazing I learned anything.

Fractions are part of the memorization routine. Bad teachers, force feeding algorithms without imparting any understanding would scare the shit out of anybody.

232 Gus  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:00:47am

re: #229 dragonath

Romney: ‘I’m Not Gonna Disappear’

nooooooooo

No. Mitt Romney should grow a long beard first and then come back after a few years.

233 dragonath  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:01:41am

I’m not sure if he stands for anything other than pure politics.

234 b_sharp  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:02:16am

re: #232 Gus

Gus, what app did you use to make your new Twitter avi?

235 Gus  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:02:36am

re: #234 b_sharp

Gus, what app did you use to make your new Twitter avi?

Photochop.

236 Gus  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:03:07am

re: #234 b_sharp

Gus, what app did you use to make your new Twitter avi?

Picked up some free styles the other night.

237 b_sharp  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:05:17am

re: #236 Gus

Picked up some free styles the other night.

PS is too expensive for me. I’ve tried Gimp and Blender but both are designed to be as non-intuitive as possible so have steep learning curves.

238 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:06:17am

re: #224 b_sharp

That sounds like algorithm memorization. New math was the introduction of things like set theory and number systems was it not?

Done right, it would do that. But most classrooms really don’t offer conditions favorable to doing it right. Better to just stick to the basics, I think. Fractions are more likely to work in the situations that normally apply in the real world.

239 Gus  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:07:17am

re: #237 b_sharp

PS is too expensive for me. I’ve tried Gimp and Blender but both are designed to be as non-intuitive as possible so have steep learning curves.

Ugh. Blender. Yeah, I tried that. Some people can be really good with it. Not me. Not interested in it at all. Completely unintuitive. It’s like freaking programming or something.

240 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:08:13am

re: #238 Dark_Falcon

. Fractions are more likely to work in the situations that normally apply in the real world.

Can you explain the logic behind this?

And have you just abandoned our earlier discussion?

241 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:08:25am

I have one word for Malkin and Geller:

Madeleine

Have a great day all!

bbl

242 b_sharp  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:09:40am

re: #240 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Can you explain the logic behind this?

And have you just abandoned our earlier discussion?

I think he just meant that learning fractions in a classroom isn’t as effective as learning in real world situations.

243 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:10:48am

re: #242 b_sharp

I think he just meant that learning fractions in a classroom isn’t as effective as learning in real world situations.

Fractions don’t come up that often in real-world situations. We generally only use 1/2 or 1/4 with any regularity.

244 allegro  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:13:20am

So last night about 11 I was sitting here watching Breaking Bad when there was a horrible sound, like one of the neighboring rigs collapsing or something. That was followed by two more crashing sounds. A bit of commotion ensued outside so I threw on my sweats and went out to investigate. One of my neighbors had driven into the park, drunk on his ass. Pretty much took out one car (the damage is ghastly) then hit two more before getting to his door. My truck seems to be the only vehicle that escaped unscathed.

There are Jesus stickers all over his truck with REPENT! and scriptures on his back window. He certainly has some repentin’ and payin’ to do this morning on a number of levels. Wonder if he made it to church?

245 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:15:09am

re: #242 b_sharp

I think he just meant that learning fractions in a classroom isn’t as effective as learning in real world situations.

No, I didn’t mean that, though that is true. What I meant was that while more elaborate tactics can bear the best fruit, simpler tactics of making sure the children know the essential facts (even if they don’t understand the ‘why’ behind them) is often a better idea given the situations faced by many schools. Additional explanation and instruction works well with first rate teachers, and often even with experienced second rate teachers. But many schools don’t have enough teachers in those two categories to use such tactics, and those places are better off going with something that partially works instead of something that cannot work given the circumstances.

246 Gus  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:15:33am

re: #237 b_sharp

PS is too expensive for me. I’ve tried Gimp and Blender but both are designed to be as non-intuitive as possible so have steep learning curves.

[Link: www.ebay.com…]

247 b_sharp  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:16:06am

re: #239 Gus

Ugh. Blender. Yeah, I tried that. Some people can be really good with it. Not me. Not interested in it at all. Completely unintuitive. It’s like freaking programming or something.

I’ve used some demo versions of 3D CAD to produce small objects and even the most capable of them far surpass Blender in ease of use.

248 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:16:11am

re: #243 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Fractions don’t come up that often in real-world situations. We generally only use 1/2 or 1/4 with any regularity.

I actually find myself using 1/3 and 2/3rds fairly often, myself.

249 Gus  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:16:17am

Ah, wait. That’s just an upgrade.

250 Gus  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:16:56am

re: #247 b_sharp

I’ve used some demo versions of 3D CAD to produce small objects and even the most capable of them far surpass Blender in ease of use.

I don’t know how to describe Blender politely.

251 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:17:03am

re: #245 Dark_Falcon

The ‘why’ of mathematics is the essential facts of mathematics.

252 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:21:54am

re: #248 Dark_Falcon

I actually find myself using 1/3 and 2/3rds fairly often, myself.

That’s great. But take a look at the actual real world environment:

The economy grew by 3%. Sales tax is 8%. Your income tax is 27%.

We use fractions for approximations— you’re 2/3 done, you’re 1/2 done. That’s not mathematics, that’s a verbal description that’s acknowledging inaccuracy.

The only way that fractions get useful is in teaching that they’re just division, which is a conceptual level thing. 3/4 is 3 divided by four.

253 b_sharp  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:23:03am

OK, I’m watching a documentary on Africa and the host is standing on the side of a cliff by a waterfall. He tells us (roughly translated) “this is a very dangerous place to stand because just one slip could mean my death”. My question to him is ‘why the hell are you standing there then?’

254 dragonath  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:28:28am

re: #253 b_sharp

Does he go up to lions and stick his head inside their jaws?

255 allegro  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:31:56am

re: #252 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

We use fractions for approximations— you’re 2/3 done, you’re 1/2 done. That’s not mathematics, that’s a verbal description that’s acknowledging inaccuracy.

Unless you’re cooking, sewing, doing carpentry…

256 Gus  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:34:08am

Some people go through life seeing their cup either 5/8ths empty or 3/8ths full. //

257 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:34:29am

re: #152 Decatur Deb

‘Morning, all. We are offered two decent—>spectacular comets this year. PANSTARRS arrives this mid-month, might be ‘memorable’. At any rate, it is good practice for ISON, which gets here in Nov. ISON might be the comet of the generation.

PANSTARRS page: [Link: www.astropixels.com…]

I’ve ordered a pair of decent:cheap Celestron astro binoculars via Amazon, which I thinks still kicks back a smidgen to Charles.

[Link: www.amazon.com…]

We’ve got a cheap set of binos - 8x25 - and that usually is good for things like comets unless you want to take photos. I’d rather a pair of 7x35 or so, a slightly bigger field is nice for basic observation but one doesn’t argue too much with free (Christmas present :)

258 dragonath  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:35:24am

Metric!

The system has been nearly globally adopted. Only Burma, Liberia and the United States have not adopted SI units as their official system of weights and measures.

259 allegro  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:35:43am

re: #253 b_sharp

OK, I’m watching a documentary on Africa and the host is standing on the side of a cliff by a waterfall. He tells us (roughly translated) “this is a very dangerous place to stand because just one slip could mean my death”. My question to him is ‘why the hell are you standing there then?’

That reminds me of climbing Exit Glacier in Alaska. There were a number of signs right at the edges of sharp dropping cliff-type spots that said “Do not go beyond this point.” I was thinking what kind of idiots need those signs to tell them that?

260 Gus  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:35:43am
261 Gus  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:36:26am

Bottom 99.9%. Got that?

262 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:37:39am

re: #255 allegro

Unless you’re cooking, sewing, doing carpentry…

Cooking is the main area where we use it, but even then it’s basically prompted by our measurement system, not by the mathematics of the situation. Carpentry is one where I’m not sure what you’re referring to— can you explain?

263 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:40:26am

If you want to get the latest version of Photoshop for the best price, sign up for some random class at your local community college and get a student ID. Then buy the student version of the software, send Adobe a scan of the ID for the authorization code, and then cancel the class.

264 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:40:32am

re: #123 Dr Lizardo

Speaking of massive walking war machines, here’s the trailer for Guillermo Del Toro’s kaiju homage, “Pacific Rim”:

[Embedded content]

I am so going to see that in the theatre.

265 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:42:47am

re: #262 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Cooking is the main area where we use it, but even then it’s basically prompted by our measurement system, not by the mathematics of the situation. Carpentry is one where I’m not sure what you’re referring to— can you explain?

A lot of hands on fabrication in the US still uses imperial measurements, so fractions of an inch frequently come into play. A few years ago when I was working a side job as a sign maker this was the case.

266 erik_t  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:43:47am

re: #259 allegro

That reminds me of climbing Exit Glacier in Alaska. There were a number of signs right at the edges of sharp dropping cliff-type spots that said “Do not go beyond this point.” I was thinking what kind of idiots need those signs to tell them that?

They exist so that you can pose two feet behind them for mirthful pictures and/or to scare the wife.

267 allegro  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:44:48am

re: #262 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Cooking is the main area where we use it, but even then it’s basically prompted by our measurement system, not by the mathematics of the situation. Carpentry is one where I’m not sure what you’re referring to— can you explain?

Measuring. Yanno, 3/8 inch, 5/16 inch, etc.

268 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:45:07am

re: #135 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

It’s hard to get accurate figures on how much of the German war production was sabotaged, but we know from survivor accounts that there was sabotage, and we have action reports of enormous amounts of German dud shells.

In contrast, the women workers in the US has every incentive in the world to do the best possible job they could.

Basically, Herr Shicklegruber forgot von Moltke’s dictum: Amateurs study tactics. Experts, logistics.

269 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:45:31am

re: #265 goddamnedfrank

A lot of hands on fabrication in the US still uses imperial measurements, so fractions of an inch frequently come into play. A few years ago when I was working a side job as a sign maker this was the case.

Right, but that’s just because of the measurement system. I don’t think of a quarter-inch nail by thinking of an inch and dividing it into a quarter. That’s not using fractions, it’s just that fractions are already the measurement system in place.

If you make a recipe that calls for a 1/2 cup of flour, you’re not ‘using’ fractions unless you double that recipe or halve it. The fractions are just there.

270 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:48:25am

re: #267 allegro

Measuring. Yanno, 3/8 inch, 5/16 inch, etc.

See above. 8% sales tax is something to compute. a 3/8ths of an inch nail is just the size it comes in. And it actually makes it harder for a novice, because figuring out the size difference between a 3/8th inch nail and a 5/16 is really difficult— people usually just rote memorize them.

271 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:49:47am

re: #147 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

So how come the GOP, the supposedly business-savy party, doesn’t understand this? How come that, even after making the wrong and terrible analogy between government and a business, they then overlook that businesses take on large amounts of debt all the time, that businesses (well-run businesses) don’t just slash spending?

Because like all revolutionaries they have to cloak their revolutionary plans in a tasty coating. They drop the words ‘business’, capitalism’, ‘freedom’ and all the other buzzwords into the political conversation and the useful idiots (I’m using that Leninist term with severe intent) lap it up and help bring about the end of the system they believe they are supporting.

If they were honest about their goals and their plans no one would buy into them. So they lie.

272 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:50:20am

OT Just posted a page on Romney’s first interview. [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

273 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:51:07am

re: #156 Vicious Babushka

Billy.

I’ve got two of those. Easy to put together and they handle my library with room for expansion quite handily.

274 b_sharp  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:53:53am

re: #254 dragonath

Does he go up to lions and stick his head inside their jaws?

I’m waiting for that.

275 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:54:47am

re: #259 allegro

That reminds me of climbing Exit Glacier in Alaska. There were a number of signs right at the edges of sharp dropping cliff-type spots that said “Do not go beyond this point.” I was thinking what kind of idiots need those signs to tell them that?

Haven’t worked much with young adult males, have you?

276 allegro  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:56:09am

re: #270 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

See above. 8% sales tax is something to compute. a 3/8ths of an inch nail is just the size it comes in. And it actually makes it harder for a novice, because figuring out the size difference between a 3/8th inch nail and a 5/16 is really difficult— people usually just rote memorize them.

That is still using fractions.

277 b_sharp  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:56:42am

Shopping time!!!

See ya.

278 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:56:47am

re: #270 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

See above. 8% sales tax is something to compute. a 3/8ths of an inch nail is just the size it comes in. And it actually makes it harder for a novice, because figuring out the size difference between a 3/8th inch nail and a 5/16 is really difficult— people usually just rote memorize them.

Not to mention the confusion if you ask a tyro to actually measure the dimensions of a 2x4. ;)

279 Gus  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:57:00am
280 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:57:53am

Feline Overlords are being entertaining…

Image: I_dont_get_this_whole_shower_thing.jpg

281 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 9:57:53am

re: #264 Romantic Heretic

I am so going to see that in the theatre.

Same here. That’s one of those films that require the big screen. Home theater just isn’t enough.

282 Gus  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 10:05:09am

Did you know that sequester and economic expert Bob Woodward only has a BA?

He studied history and English literature.

Not economics.

I look forward to his expertise on aerospace engineering next week.

283 kirkspencer  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 10:07:28am

re: #281 Dr Lizardo

Same here. That’s one of those films that require the big screen. Home theater just isn’t enough.

Need to make up for the lack of plot and acting somehow, right? (///)

284 kirkspencer  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 10:10:35am

re: #282 Gus

Did you know that sequester and economic expert Bob Woodward only has a BA?

He studied history and English literature.

Not economics.

I look forward to his expertise on aerospace engineering next week.

OK, I twitch at this sort of thing. It’s too easy to dismiss people who actually know things because they don’t have the right credentials. I’ve known too many computer gurus who didn’t have comp sci or EE degrees just for one example.

Hammer him for being an idiot, for being wrong, and I’ve no problem. The “lack of credential” argument makes you look superficial to me.

285 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 10:11:37am

re: #276 allegro

That is still using fractions.

No, I’m sorry, I’m drawing a distinction between using percentages and fractions in a mathematical equation to simply using them as static measurement. a 5/8ths nail is the latter. You are never going to have to multiply the 5/8ths nail by anything to figure anything out. (If you’re doing load bearing analysis you’re using heavier math and the 5/8ths would get converted into decimal.)

286 Gus  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 10:18:10am

re: #284 kirkspencer

OK, I twitch at this sort of thing. It’s too easy to dismiss people who actually know things because they don’t have the right credentials. I’ve known too many computer gurus who didn’t have comp sci or EE degrees just for one example.

Hammer him for being an idiot, for being wrong, and I’ve no problem. The “lack of credential” argument makes you look superficial to me.

I see. So we use this same logic that I presented to rebut climate change deniers but when it applies to Bob Woodward, it’s different. Why should it be any different.

287 Gus  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 10:18:53am

“What does he know about climate change science? He’s only a ____________ .”

288 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Mar 3, 2013 10:20:22am

re: #286 Gus

It’s fine to criticize him for lack of knowledge when he’s also showing that ignorance, which he was.


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