The New Hero of the Right: Rand Paul

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Pseudo-libertarian kook Rand Paul’s 13-hour filibuster yesterday to block the confirmation of John Brennan as CIA director was so confused and senseless, even John “Get Off My Lawn” McCain was fed up. And Lindsey “Benghazi” Graham now says Paul’s filibuster has convinced him to vote to approve Brennan.

“Calm down, Senator,” McCain said, in an apostrophe to Paul. “The U.S. government cannot randomly target U.S. citizens.”

In his filibuster Wednesday, Paul criticized the White House over its drone policies, and for refusing to rule out military strikes against U.S. citizens on American soil.

McCain, a staunch foreign policy hawk, said Thursday that Paul’s warnings that the U.S. could target “Jane Fonda” or “people in cafes” bring the debate into the “realm of the ridiculous.”

“If Mr. Paul wants to be taken seriously he needs to do more than pull political stunts that fire up impressionable libertarian kids,” McCain said, adding: “I don’t think what happened yesterday is helpful to the American people.”

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) echoed these criticisms, adding that he was “disappointed” in the 13 Republican Senators who supported Paul’s filibuster last night.

The right wing blogosphere is absolutely delighted with Rand Paul, of course, but it has nothing to do with his theatrical opposition to drones; it’s because any Republican who acts out in public and bashes President Obama gets their uncritical support. They’re already talking about having him run for President.

Note that Sen. Paul is a frequent guest on the conspiracy-peddling Alex Jones show, where he co-signs every deranged fantasy. This is the new hero of the right.

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102 comments
1 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 10:46:45am

He’s King Lemming, who will lead the GOP over the cliff.

2 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 10:47:54am

Wingnuts are not really against drone strikes on U.S. soil.

3 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 10:48:39am

There is something funny one must admit about McCain lecturing a senator about engaging in theatrics. Anyhow, Rand Paul is their hero until they find a new one which will be next week sometime.

4 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 10:49:39am

re: #2 Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts are not really against drone strikes on U.S. soil.

Yeah they could care less. Their problem is Obama’s WH has control of these things. They would probably be asking for more of them if Romney or McCain were president even.

5 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 10:50:43am

He’s the hero of the hour because re: #3 HappyWarrior

There is something funny one must admit about McCain lecturing a senator about engaging in theatrics. Anyhow, Rand Paul is their hero until they find a new one which will be next week sometime.

Nah, what’s hilarious about McCain’s bit today was that he actually accused Paul of having done damage to the filibuster, suggesting that his 13 hour marathon might actually convince people to want to do away with the filibuster.

Meanwhile, those Democrats who were pushing for filibuster reform back in January were pointing to Paul’s filibuster and going “That’s how it’s supposed to be done!”

6 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 10:50:59am

re: #4 HappyWarrior

Yeah they could care less. Their problem is Obama’s WH has control of these things. They would probably be asking for more of them if Romney or McCain were president even.

Wingnut fantasy: President Rand Paul tells patriots to get there gunz an go huntin’ fer Librulz!

7 Lidane  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 10:51:06am

Sen. Aqua Buddha (R-Rapture) is just as much of a theocratic tool as his crazy father.

I would laugh myself into a coma if the GOP nominated him in 2016. It would be a priceless moment.

8 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 10:51:54am

I seem to remember a Bloom County comic panel about “Librul Huntin’” way, way back during the Reagan administration.

9 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 10:52:11am

re: #7 Lidane

Sen. Aqua Buddha (R-Rapture) is just as much of a theocratic tool as his crazy father.

I would laugh myself into a coma if the GOP nominated him in 2016. It would be a priceless moment.

He really is. For someone supposedly libertarian, he’s very much a nutjob when it comes to stuff like gay marriage where he accuses the cities of “forcing” gay marriage on rural areas. Fuck him.

10 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 10:53:42am

Gus said this last night.

11 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 10:53:43am

re: #2 Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts are not really against drone strikes on U.S. soil.

Yet they are all for gunning down roaming gangs with their AR-15s.

12 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 10:54:00am

I refuse to see a US Senator elected in the 21st century who has said on record he would have opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 as any champion of liberty.

13 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 10:54:11am

It is not about governance, it is about obstructing Obama. In that sense, RP is a major success. He is now a figurehead, and the rest of the GOP cannot ignore him.

14 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 10:54:32am

Paul is also a big fan of allowing businesses to exploit workers.

15 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 10:54:37am

“Protest” BWAHAHA. He wants to PARTY.

16 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 10:54:55am

re: #14 Kragar (Antichrist )

Paul is also a big fan of allowing businesses to exploit workers.

Yeah that’s “liberty” to him.

17 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 10:55:15am

re: #8 Vicious Babushka

I seem to remember a Bloom County comic panel about “Librul Huntin’” way, way back during the Reagan administration.

You mean this one?

18 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 10:55:17am

re: #11 Kragar (Antichrist )

BTW got around to watching “Snatch.” Unfortunately Netflix streaming did not include subtitles.

19 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 10:55:47am

re: #17 Targetpractice

You mean this one?

CLASSIC! So awesome even 30 years later.

20 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 10:55:49am

I can be your hero baby,
I’m obsessed with fetal pain,
No equal ground for women ever,
I will take their rights away.

21 Bulworth  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 10:56:31am

Ben Carson Bob Woodward Rand Paul for President!

/

22 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 10:57:00am

re: #18 Vicious Babushka

BTW got around to watching “Snatch.” Unfortunately Netflix streaming did not include subtitles.

You don’t speak Pikey?
/

Were you able to get thru it otherwise?

23 lawhawk  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 10:57:39am

UAV drone attacks began under the Bush Administration. They were vastly expanded by the Obama Administration and a whole military/CIA infrastructure was built up around the programs. Oversight is absolutely critical so that the use isn’t abuse.

Each and every successive president after Obama will have UAVs at their disposal just as prior presidents used to know and rely upon carriers for force projection as needed. There are limitations on their use.

How the UAVs can or should be used is a needed question (even with Paul completely misrepresenting Holder’s position on UAVs used domestically), but Paul’s bluster yesterday ignores the real issue.

He was filibustering John Brennan’s nomination for CIA not because Brennan is unqualified, but because Paul wanted face-time and as McCain and Graham know all too well from their own theatrics - and called him on it.

Brennan deserves an up/down vote along with other administration nominees for other positions. The Senate GOP has continually blocked many of the nominations for no other reason than because they could.

That means that any number of judiciary positions and other agency positions have gone unfilled. It’s increased the acrimony in Congress and continues to keep gridlock in place.

Oh, and it’s hilarious watching the GOP and right wing fawn over Paul, who’s repeatedly called for ending foreign aid to Israel after these same GOPers and right wingers were busy claiming that former Sen. Hagel was a threat to Israel.

24 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 10:57:40am

Woodward/Paul 2016

25 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 10:57:40am

Look at the avatar, then look at the Twitter account name. Someone who has posted here recently?

26 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 10:58:31am

GOP 2016: Dumb/Dumber

27 iossarian  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 10:58:50am

re: #22 Kragar (Antichrist )

You don’t speak Pikey?
/

Were you able to get thru it otherwise?

It was somewhere between “Lock, Stock” and “Snatch” that I stopped thinking Lad Culture was cool/funny even in an ironic way.

What a pile of garbage.

28 Bulworth  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 10:59:10am

re: #25 Vicious Babushka

OMG=Oh My God, or something else?

29 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 10:59:21am

re: #22 Kragar (Antichrist )

You don’t speak Pikey?
/

Were you able to get thru it otherwise?

I was ROTFL and crying during the first scene. Funniest. Opening. Scene. EVER. Zedushka watched it with me, he kept saying “Those aren’t real Jews.” Sure enough…

30 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 10:59:49am

re: #25 Vicious Babushka

Look at the avatar, then look at the Twitter account name. Someone who has posted here recently?

I don’t want useless submarines and tanks we don’t need, does that mean we can just stop funding those too?

31 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 10:59:58am

re: #28 Bulworth

OMG=Oh My God, or something else?

Avatar of Nicola Tesla.
DrTesla.

Coincidence?

32 Bubblehead II  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:00:14am

re: #25 Vicious Babushka

Look at the avatar, then look at the Twitter account name. Someone who has posted here recently?

Sounds familiar. Didn’t last much its first post or two iirc.

33 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:00:28am

Here’s the problem with the “OMG drones!” argument:

Let’s say DHS has identified and located two individuals who happen to be foreign born naturalized U.S. citizens. These individuals are known to be plotting a chemical attack that could cost thousands of lives.

It’s clear they won’t surrender peacefully and an opportunity has arisen to strike them in a remote yet dangerous location.

Why wouldn’t a drone strike be justified in this instance?

34 iossarian  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:00:41am

re: #31 Vicious Babushka

Avatar of Nicola Tesla.
DrTesla.

Coincidence?

Can’t be him.

He was very comfortable around black people, remember?

35 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:01:03am

re: #25 Vicious Babushka

Look at the avatar, then look at the Twitter account name. Someone who has posted here recently?

If he’s pissed about the CR continuing funding for Obamacare now, wait until Ryan puts out his budget next week, which includes savings from Obamacare and revenue from the fiscal cliff deal.

36 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:01:09am

re: #29 Vicious Babushka

I was ROTFL and crying during the first scene. Funniest. Opening. Scene. EVER. Zedushka watched it with me, he kept saying “Those aren’t real Jews.” Sure enough…

Glad you enjoyed it then.

37 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:01:45am

re: #36 Kragar (Antichrist )

Glad you enjoyed it then.

Would have enjoyed it more with subtitles.

38 CuriousLurker  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:03:01am

re: #37 Vicious Babushka

OT - Sent to me by a friend and I just had to pop in and show you ‘cause I know you’ll get a kick out of it:

Baddassery: Muslim Goth-Punk Style

Denmark again—the winds of change are blowing, heh. ;)

Can’t stay. BBL

39 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:03:29am

re: #37 Vicious Babushka

Would have enjoyed it more with subtitles.

Yeah, I have that complaint with Netflix as well. They’re are a lot of foreign movies they have where they don’t have proper subtitles or dubbing available on streaming.

40 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:05:05am

re: #38 CuriousLurker

OT - Sent to me by a friend and I just had to pop in and show you ‘cause I know you’ll get a kick out of it:

Baddassery: Muslim Goth-Punk Style

Denmark again—the winds of change are blowing, heh. ;)

Can’t stay. BBL

Great now we have to worry about Punk Shariah. //

41 CuriousLurker  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:05:35am

re: #40 HappyWarrior

Great now we have to worry about Punk Shariah. //

LOL!

42 Gus  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:06:35am

re: #10 Vicious Babushka

Gus said this last night.

43 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:07:07am

re: #41 CuriousLurker

LOL!

Hey, if they can combine Celtic with punk, I’d love to see what can be done with Arab/Muslim culture. Fusion music is pretty sweet.

44 Gus  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:07:23am

Senator Rand Paul twice pushed for ending U.S. “welfare” (in his words) for Israel—which prompted seven Democratic Senators to author a letter firmly rejecting Paul’s proposal. Further, Paul has been a staunch opponent of general U.S. foreign aid—which has long been supported by the pro-Israel community—and even used his leadership PAC to push his anti-foreign aid agenda during the 2012 campaign.

45 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:08:35am

re: #44 Gus

Senator Rand Paul twice pushed for ending U.S. “welfare” (in his words) for Israel—which prompted seven Democratic Senators to author a letter firmly rejecting Paul’s proposal. Further, Paul has been a staunch opponent of general U.S. foreign aid—which has long been supported by the pro-Israel community—and even used his leadership PAC to push his anti-foreign aid agenda during the 2012 campaign.

Didn’t Paul put forth a theoretical budget that cut foreign aid and entitlements to practically $0 but maintained full Military Funding?

46 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:08:40am
47 CuriousLurker  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:09:07am

re: #43 FriendsofHummus

Hey, if they can combine Celtic with punk, I’d love to see what can be done with Arab/Muslim culture. Fusion music is pretty sweet.

I know, right?

BTW, your new nic is hilarious—love it!

48 Gus  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:09:44am

re: #45 Eclectic Cyborg

Didn’t Paul put forth a theoretical budget that cut foreign aid and entitlements to practically $0 but maintained full Military Funding?

Something like that.

49 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:10:47am

re: #47 CuriousLurker

I know, right?

BTW, your new nic is hilarious—love it!

Really, there’s so much cool music combinations out there. I myself love the folk has had a revival this past decade. And thanks. Been in a hummus mood lately and I’m surprised I didn’t see anyone else go with it in the wake of the crap thrown at Hagel.

50 steve_davis  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:11:04am

“Senator Paul, a Category 3 hurricane is bearing down on a path that will take it’s eye a couple miles East of the center of Houston, Texas. Because the current storm path was considered highly unlikely until a couple days ago, the city has gotten a late jump on evacuations, and it’s projected that there will still be a quarter of a million residents in cars trying to flee the city when the first rain bands start to hit the suburbs. The president learns that a group of terrorists plan to explode a semi-trailer full of ammonium nitrate at a strategic complex of roads and bridges, killing potentially several hundred trapped motorists in the immediate aftermath. Actuaries predict that the ensuing chaos to the road system will lead to potentially 100,000 storm-related fatalities from people either drowning in flood waters or buffeted in 175 mph gusts. Neither the military nor law enforcement can get to the trucks without the drivers initiating a suicide strike that will kill hundreds of people. However, a drone strike will destroy the truck without detonating the payload, and is projected to kill roughly 50 bystanders in the process. Question, senator: if you were the president, given that extraordinary circumstance, would you order a drone strike on a target on American soil?”

51 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:11:55am

re: #45 Eclectic Cyborg

Didn’t Paul put forth a theoretical budget that cut foreign aid and entitlements to practically $0 but maintained full Military Funding?

That sounds like something he’d do. He’s another Paul Ryan. “Someone confronting the serious issues” but actually is just in it for the theatrics. I think he’s more of a nutcase than his Dad honestly because he’s more hawkish.

52 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:12:49am

This was never about drones.

53 geoffm33  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:14:45am

Bwahahahahahahahahha

54 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:15:16am

Bryan Fischer: Attending tea party is an ‘excuse’ to be ‘vaporized’ by a drone

During his Wednesday Focal Point radio broadcast, Fischer applauded Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) for filibustering the confirmation of John Brennan to be the next CIA director over concerns that President Barack Obama was claiming the authority to assassinate American citizens.

“This is what a tyrant does,” the Christian radio host said of Obama. “Tyrants do not want to let people disagree with them, do not want to let them express their opinions if they are critical of the policies of the current regime. That’s how tyrants operate, and what Rand Paul is saying is, ‘That’s the direction we’re going here.’”

“Based on the way the administration is crafting their policy here on the use of drones, you’ve got to be concerned that something you might say at a tea party — something you might say at a tea party would be used as an excuse to drop a drone or a bomb from a drone — a missile from a drone on your house.”

Fischer added: “And you would not even find out about it until you’d been vaporized.”

But in a Thursday speech on the Senate floor, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) lashed out at the paranoia coming from Paul’s supporters.

Man, if Lindsey Graham calls you paranoid, you know you’re seriously fucked in the head.

55 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:16:00am

re: #53 geoffm33

Bwahahahahahahahahha

Rand Paul who barely won election in a Republican state during a Republican year…………….

56 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:16:05am

re: #53 geoffm33

Bwahahahahahahahahha

Yeah, how else will they beat Obama in 2016?

#stallwithpaul

57 geoffm33  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:16:32am

Just walked to the store to get lunch and the wind was blowing the snow in my face both there and back. And, uh, it was uphill both ways too, yeah. And ah, get off my lawn!

58 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:16:52am

re: #54 Kragar (Antichrist )

Bryan Fischer: Attending tea party is an ‘excuse’ to be ‘vaporized’ by a drone

Man, if Lindsey Graham calls you paranoid, you know you’re seriously fucked in the head.

I’d like Fischer to name the many Tea Party victims of drones. Oh wait, he can’t because he just wants to be persecuted.

60 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:17:38am

To be fair when she says beat Obama, she could mean his party as a whole at the polls in the midterms next year. But I’ve been guilty of being overly generous to stupidity before.

61 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:18:18am

re: #58 FriendsofHummus

I’d like Fischer to name the many Tea Party victims of drones. Oh wait, he can’t because he just wants to be persecuted.

Anyone who sat thru a Bachmann or Palin speech.

WHAMMY!

62 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:18:39am

For those of you who haven’t seen it, Jenna Marble’s “Thanks, Obama.”

63 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:19:08am

re: #61 Kragar (Antichrist )

Anyone who sat thru a Bachmann or Palin speech.

WHAMMY!

He said vaporized not wanted to go to the ABC store and get a fifth of Jameson.

64 Lidane  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:19:23am
65 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:21:54am

re: #64 Lidane

OUTRAGEOUS OUTRAGE!!11ty1!11!
/

66 Targetpractice  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:22:17am

re: #59 Killgore Trout

McCain hates Rand Paul’s real filibuster

As well he should. He helped derail filibuster reform, and is scared that Paul’s little performance yesterday may lend credibility to the argument that the talking filibuster does not harm the minority’s ability to address bills it disagrees with while allowing the government to continue functioning. There was actually talk this morning that Paul’s talking filibuster might actually lead to the defeat of Brennan’s nomination if some Democrats didn’t get a decisive answer to the drone question from the administration.

67 wrenchwench  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:25:47am

re: #33 Eclectic Cyborg

Here’s the problem with the “OMG drones!” argument:

Let’s say DHS has identified and located two individuals who happen to be foreign born naturalized U.S. citizens. These individuals are known to be plotting a chemical attack that could cost thousands of lives.

It’s clear they won’t surrender peacefully and an opportunity has arisen to strike them in a remote yet dangerous location.

Why wouldn’t a drone strike be justified in this instance?

Doesn’t matter where they were born.

68 Political Atheist  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:26:26am

I do wish it had been someone more senior, more centrist to really force a discussion of drone use and the reductions in civil protections since 9/11.
But the who of it hardly changes the need for public and transparent discussions of these policies. What it seems has happened is the fear of the far right T.P has motivated far too many people to give this administration a blanket pass on civil liberties. A rather severe rise in executive power which used to be considered an important consideration just one President ago. These days not so much.

FISA, Patriot Act, Drones all need a full review. It’s long past time to sunset significant policies instead of endless near rubber stamp extensions.

Supreme Court Thwarts Challenge to Warrantless Surveillance

How Obama Transformed an Old Military Concept So He Can Drone Americans

Expiring Warrantless Spy Bill to Be Reauthorized by Year’s End

Obama Finally Talks Drone War, But It’s Almost Impossible to Believe Him

Justice Department Sues Telecom for Challenging National Security Letter

69 thecommodore  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:26:33am

test

70 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:27:52am

Wingnut derangement continues.

71 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:28:22am

I’m wondering about the circumstances behind an incident inside the United States where a drone would be deployed quicker and more efficiently than a conventional airplane, helicopter, or ground forces.

72 wrenchwench  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:31:19am

re: #68 Political Atheist

I do wish it had been someone more senior, more centrist to really force a discussion of drone use and the reductions in civil protections since 9/11.

Also, not during what was supposed to be a confirmation hearing. Also, not someone who made the whole issue sound like a joke. Also, not a teapartying libertarian.

73 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:32:04am

Paul responds to Holder

Appearing on CNN on Thursday afternoon, Paul declared that Holder’s response was satisfactory and that he would allow a vote on Brennan’s nomination.

“I’m quite happy with the answer and I’m disappointed it took a month and a half and a root canal to get it,” Paul said.

Eat a bag of dicks Rand.

74 Iwouldprefernotto  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:33:30am

re: #71 Kragar (Antichrist )

I’m wondering about the circumstances behind an incident inside the United States where a drone would be deployed quicker and more efficiently than a conventional airplane, helicopter, or ground forces.

I wonder if we had drones back then, even for just recon, if we could have saved some lives at Waco.

75 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:33:57am

re: #73 Kragar (Antichrist )

Paul responds to Holder

Eat a bag of dicks Rand.

He’s a little drama queen just like his Dad is. It’s annoying because this is something that I think is worthy of a discussion on but Rand Paul who as Charles points out regularly appears on shows like Alex Jones and co-signs off on the crazy conspiracy crap isn’t the one to lead it.

76 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:34:14am

Cliff Kincaid Wants CPAC to Investigate Why Gays ‘Seem Prone to Violence, Terror and Treason’

Cliff Kincaid of Accuracy In Media is quite pleased with CPAC’s decision to ban the gay Republican group GOProud, and even thinks that “CPAC should be sponsoring a panel on the dangers of the homosexual movement and why some of its members seem prone to violence, terror, and treason.”

He warns that “there is a homosexual movement that has its roots in Marxism and is characterized by anti-Americanism and hatred of Christian values,” citing Bradley Manning and Floyd Corkins as “two of this movement’s members.” Kincaid goes on to write that homosexuality will lead to communism and the downfall of civilization, arguing that “this monster wants to impose itself on our children in the schools and even the Boy Scouts of America.”

Unsurprisingly, AIM will be giving an award to Gateway Pundit’s Jim Hoft at CPAC this year.

77 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:34:42am

DERP DERP RAGE DERP

78 lawhawk  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:35:20am

re: #70 Vicious Babushka

Scientists have long wondered whether they need to provide multiple dimensions, or even multiple universes so as to get their cosmological models and quantum theories of everything to work out.

They have to worry no longer.

We indeed have parallel universes. The fact that there are those on the right who have completely accepted utterly BS nonsense (like say the 2,700 DHS tanks) and have incorporated it into their stream of consciousness, indicates that there is indeed a parallel universe that we can see, feel, and interact with.

79 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:35:42am

re: #77 Vicious Babushka

DERP DERP RAGE DERP

Say racist and homophobic crap, you get called what you are. Sucks conservatives I know.

80 Political Atheist  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:36:03am

re: #72 wrenchwench

Also, not during what was supposed to be a confirmation hearing. Also, not someone who made the whole issue sound like a joke. Also, not a teapartying libertarian.

Okay agreed.

Now, everyone who is perfectly comfortable with a future conservative RW President having these powers as is or further expanded please chime in.

All opposed?

81 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:36:20am
82 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:36:41am

re: #77 Vicious Babushka

really, you can hardly go around calling blacks lazy, saying that gays should all die of aids and that women who use birth control are sluts without being called racist, homophobic and misogynist by some moonbat liberal do-gooder.

that isn’t what tolerance is about no, is it?

/

83 wrenchwench  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:37:44am

re: #80 Political Atheist

Okay agreed.

Now, everyone who is perfectly comfortable with a future conservative RW President having these powers as is or further expanded please chime in.

All opposed?

There are all kinds of reasons I would be uncomfortable with a future conservative RW president. This is very very low on the list.

84 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:38:32am

re: #74 Iwouldprefernotto

I wonder if we had drones back then, even for just recon, if we could have saved some lives at Waco.

Drones are primarily used to achieve operational presence in areas we can’t deploy ground troops to and can’t keep manned air assets over due to resources and risks of them being shot down. How would a drone have provided superior intel over any other plane or asset with similar surveillance gear?

Don’t confuse the tools with the mission.

85 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:39:22am

re: #83 wrenchwench

There are all kinds of reasons I would be uncomfortable with a future conservative RW president. This is very very low on the list.

This. Anyhow. What I wish for in the future when Congress is expanding or okaying greater executive power is that they’d realize that presidents from both parties are going to use it. And yeah my problem with a future right wing conservative president would be more in policy than anything.

86 ProBosniaLiberal  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:39:26am

So, I see Pyongyang is threatening to go full-batshit.

This is a bit of a situation. Wonder if it simmers down, or what.

87 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:40:40am

DERP

88 Political Atheist  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:41:14am

re: #83 wrenchwench

There are all kinds of reasons I would be uncomfortable with a future conservative RW president. This is very very low on the list.

It may deserve a higher place on the list as some of this makes it easier to get away with other things on your list.

Oh hey, I was talking to another long time Lizard on the phone about LGF. We were thinking you might be the longest term poster that is on much. Maybe so?

89 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:42:08am

re: #88 Political Atheist

It may deserve a higher place on the list as some of this makes it easier to get away with other things on your list.

Oh hey, I was talking to another long time Lizard on the phone about LGF. We were thinking you might be the longest term poster that is on much. Maybe so?

Kragar & me are what, chopped liver?

90 lawhawk  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:42:26am

re: #88 Political Atheist

I’ve been posting here since October 2001.

91 Political Atheist  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:42:43am

re: #85 FriendsofHummus

This. Anyhow. What I wish for in the future when Congress is expanding or okaying greater executive power is that they’d realize that presidents from both parties are going to use it. And yeah my problem with a future right wing conservative president would be more in policy than anything.

You two are missing the point. Obama is backing policies unwise in both the short and long term. It’s just that left leaning partisans can’t admit the short term stuff.

92 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:42:47am

re: #89 Vicious Babushka

Kragar & me are what, chopped liver?

I am a meat popsicle.

93 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:43:03am

re: #80 Political Atheist

Okay agreed.

Now, everyone who is perfectly comfortable with a future conservative RW President having these powers as is or further expanded please chime in.

All opposed?

The law will catch up with today’s technology. Of course it will be a half-generation behind the technology of that time. In the meantime we will wing it, like we always have.

94 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:44:26am

re: #91 Political Atheist

You two are missing the point. Obama is backing policies unwise in both the short and long term. It’s just that left leaning partisans can’t admit the short term stuff.

I’d have to look. Listen, I am just saying that executive power is expanded without understanding the consequences later. I’m in full agreement with you that these policies need to be scrutinized.

95 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:44:43am

re: #87 Vicious Babushka

DERP

DErP. Demonstrably Error-prone Party.

96 wrenchwench  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:49:54am

re: #88 Political Atheist

It may deserve a higher place on the list as some of this makes it easier to get away with other things on your list.

A right wing president will use drones to keep me from getting an abortion?

Oh hey, I was talking to another long time Lizard on the phone about LGF. We were thinking you might be the longest term poster that is on much. Maybe so?

I am surpassed by a Babushka, a lawyer, and a meat popsicle. And several others, I’m sure. Registration started in 2004, some posters go back much earlier. Not me, though.

97 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:49:55am

RIP, SimCity.

98 wrenchwench  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:52:44am

re: #91 Political Atheist

You two are missing the point. Obama is backing policies unwise in both the short and long term. It’s just that left leaning partisans can’t admit the short term stuff.

The man changes with the office more than the office changes with the man. Or something like that. Presidents are charged with keeping Americans safe, and probably most of them are going to err on the side of ‘safe’ over ‘free’. That’s why we have the other two branches of government.

99 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 12:03:23pm

Stupid right wingers. They CAN’T beat Obama again no matter what. He isn’t allowed to run again. Morons.

100 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 12:38:00pm

re: #97 Varek Raith

RIP, SimCity.

Once again, the gaming industry takes a good solid performer and pisses all over it.

Well done EA.

101 Destro  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 1:43:25pm

re: #10 Vicious Babushka

Gus said this last night.

American Rightwingers are angry Jesus did not come yet even though they support Israel and breed red cows to slaughter on the soon to be built (soon to them) Temple Mount and everything. So they turn on Israel because even after they did all these Rube Goldberg like things to get Jesus to come back and kill everyone Jesus has not returned while they are re stuck with a black Muslim president.

The problem with apocalyptic people is that when the apocalypse does not happen they try and set it off on their own.

102 jamesfirecat  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 5:56:49pm

re: #100 Kragar (Antichrist )

Once again, the gaming industry takes a good solid performer and pisses all over it.

Well done EA.

EA has destroyed both the Ultima and Command and Conquer serieses…


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