1 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 2:37:47pm

Work Visa students allege near inhumane treatment from McDonald’s franchisees

We expected to have 40 hours of work a week, but we were given as little as four hours a week at the minimum wage of $7.25 an hour. The employer knew we were desperate for more hours, and he kept us on call to come in with 30 minutes’ notice all day and night. I didn’t even have time to visit the public library.

If we ever answered that we couldn’t work a shift—if someone was sick or exhausted when they got a call at 4 in the morning—the managers retaliated by giving us even less hours.

We could not quit because we knew that if we did, our visas would be cancelled. One manager told us, “You better remember, all we have to do is make one phone call and we can deport you back to your country at any time.”

Our employer [redacted] charged us $300 each per month to live in basement apartments he owned. As many as eight of us lived in a single basement. We slept on bunkbeds made for children that shook and squeaked. We had no privacy whatsoever.

When we talked to the U.S. workers alongside us, we learned that they were being exploited too. They told us they also faced too few hours, threats from managers, and unpaid overtime.

This is not the America we believed in. We believe America is a beautiful country, where everyone can have respect and fair treatment at work. We decided to stand up for ourselves, for other J-1 student guestworkers, and for U.S. workers.

Unfortunately the American you believe in does not really exist anymore and you got a taste of the American reality as exists for many low wage workers today.

Please note I am NOT condoning the actions of the franchise owners, merely that their actions are not surprising given how the American employment system is heavily tilted in favor of employers.

2 KingKenrod  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 2:45:37pm

I use Chrome - each page load at LGF is trying to download “mediaplayerprime.2.3.7.swf” and asking if I want to save it instead of embedding it in the page. Just started a few moments ago.

3 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 2:46:20pm

re: #2 KingKenrod

I use Chrome - each page load at LGF is trying to download “mediaplayerprime.2.3.7.swf” and asking if I want to save it instead of embedding it in the page. Just started a few moments ago.

Hmmm. I’m using Chrome too and not getting any of that.

4 KingKenrod  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 2:47:36pm

re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg

Hmmm. I’m using Chrome too and not getting any of that.

I’m going to update Chrome and clear my cache. Let’s see if it works.

5 b_sharp  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 2:51:27pm

re: #2 KingKenrod

I use Chrome - each page load at LGF is trying to download “mediaplayerprime.2.3.7.swf” and asking if I want to save it instead of embedding it in the page. Just started a few moments ago.

Adobe Flash problems.

6 KingKenrod  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 2:54:00pm

All fixed now. Thanks for the feedback.

7 Ming  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 2:54:08pm

Now that Senate Republicans filibuster, or threaten to filibuster so often, it’s like the boy who cried wolf. When a filibuster may actually be appropriate, no one notices or cares, because there are so many other filibusters happening all the time.

I don’t agree with Rand Paul about drones, but this seems like a debate worth having. I suspect there are “best practices” for drone use that have yet to be worked out. And maybe we should be extra-cautious about how we use them. How would you feel if a drone from some foreign country were flying over your home? I appreciate the advantages of drones, but I admit they’re a new type of weapon, and worth serious discussion.

But in the current Senate, when Republicans filibuster anything and everything, because they’re so committed to undermining President Obama at every opportunity, how do you tell the “good” filibusters from the “bad”? You don’t. And so we lose the opportunity to have a debate that might actually be worthwhile.

8 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 2:57:56pm

Drones are a tool, not a policy or doctrine.

9 thedopefishlives  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 2:59:11pm

re: #8 Kragar (Antichrist )

Drones are a tool, not a policy or doctrine.

But to the Luddites who long for the old-fashioned days of shooting your enemy between the eyes, they are TEH EBIL.

10 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 3:01:16pm

re: #9 thedopefishlives

But to the Luddites who long for the old-fashioned days of shooting your enemy between the eyes, they are TEH EBIL.

Pistols at ten paces gentlemen!

11 b_sharp  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 3:01:51pm

re: #8 Kragar (Antichrist )

Drones are a tool, not a policy or doctrine.

So are the people imagining the ridiculous as reality.

13 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 3:09:08pm

Air Force erases drone strike data amid criticisms

Quietly and without much notice, the Air Force has reversed its policy of publishing statistics on drone strikes in Afghanistan as the debate about drone warfare hits a fever pitch in Washington. In addition, it has erased previously published drone strike statistics from its website.

Since October, the Air Force had been providing monthly updates on drone strikes — or in its words “weapons releases from remotely piloted aircraft (RPA).” But today, Air Force Times reporters Brian Everstine and Aaron Mehta discovered something was amiss: The statistics published for February “contained empty space where the box of RPA statistics had previously been.” In other words: The drone strike data was gone. But that’s not all. The Air Force had also scrubbed drone strike data from earlier monthly reports. In the graphic below, we’ve provided a before and after of the Air Force reports:

14 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 3:12:32pm

re: #13 Killgore Trout

Air Force erases drone strike data amid criticisms

OBAMA’S HIDING THE TRUTH!!

15 engineer cat  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 3:14:42pm

Teen beauty queen resigns in porn flap

i don’t want to see any type of pr0n called ‘porn flap’

16 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 3:16:26pm

re: #15 engineer cat

Teen beauty queen resigns in porn flap

i don’t want to see any type of pr0n called ‘porn flap’

Was she 18? If so, who cares?

17 McSpiff  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 3:17:49pm

re: #8 Kragar (Antichrist )

Drones are a tool, not a policy or doctrine.

Upvoted, but it can’t be denied that drones make additional policies and doctrines available to the armed forces that employ them. None of which have anything to do with their use over US airspace however.

18 Gus  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 3:27:52pm
19 blueraven  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 3:27:58pm

Remember the “beating” poor old Steven Crowder received at that union rally in Michigan last December?

Fox News’s Steven Crowder fistfight case: No charges

Ingham County Prosecutor Stuart Dunnings III “will not be authorizing criminal charges in this case…

Dunnings said in an interview that the video his office originally reviewed on the matter “appeared to have been edited.” A subsequent review of what the prosecutor termed “unedited” video helped the office reach its decision not to proceed with a case.

“A look at the unedited video, taken in conjunction with the statements of the alleged victim and the alleged assailant, led me to the conclusion that I would not authorize issuance of the warrant,”

Give it up guys. Okeefe, Crowder, Breitbrats…you’re not fooling anybody.

20 HoosierHoops  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 3:32:52pm

I’d like to bring up the topic of Climate change for a minute.
A new study has been released that is a long term study on rising temps for the last 11,300 years using ice cores and sediment cores from around the world. ” A heat spike like this has never happened before, at least not in the last 11,300 years, said climatologist Shaun Marcott, who worked on a new study on global temperatures going back that far.”
It is a very enlightening study and I urge you to read it esp. the part about changes in the last 100 years.
[Link: www.cnn.com…]

21 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 3:33:21pm

re: #16 Eclectic Cyborg

Was she 18? If so, who cares?

I think its depressing how many people jump on board to shame and tear down a woman for being in an adult movie.

22 Targetpractice  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 3:42:21pm

re: #19 blueraven

Remember the “beating” poor old Steven Crowder received at that union rally in Michigan last December?

Fox News’s Steven Crowder fistfight case: No charges

Give it up guys. Okeefe, Crowder, Breitbrats…you’re not fooling anybody.

You mean the “beating” the the Breitbartians were demanding everybody from the unions to the president condemn?

23 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 3:42:32pm

re: #21 Kragar (Antichrist )

I think its depressing how many people jump on board to shame and tear down a woman for being in an adult movie.

My point pretty much. So long as she was legal age to do it, I don’t see the big deal.

24 EPR-radar  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 3:43:45pm

re: #20 HoosierHoops

I’d like to bring up the topic of Climate change for a minute.
A new study has been released that is a long term study on rising temps for the last 11,300 years using ice cores and sediment cores from around the world. ” A heat spike like this has never happened before, at least not in the last 11,300 years, said climatologist Shaun Marcott, who worked on a new study on global temperatures going back that far.”
It is a very enlightening study and I urge you to read it esp. the part about changes in the last 100 years.
[Link: www.cnn.com…]

Time for a modest Friday proposal. Any entity that funds GW denial should forfeit any Arctic Ocean drilling leases it may have.

25 Political Atheist  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 3:45:52pm

re: #20 HoosierHoops

I’d like to bring up the topic of Climate change for a minute.
A new study has been released that is a long term study on rising temps for the last 11,300 years using ice cores and sediment cores from around the world. ” A heat spike like this has never happened before, at least not in the last 11,300 years, said climatologist Shaun Marcott, who worked on a new study on global temperatures going back that far.”
It is a very enlightening study and I urge you to read it esp. the part about changes in the last 100 years.
[Link: www.cnn.com…]

It’s great CNN picked that up I Paged the NSF link earlier. I hope people are working on adapting or moving away from coasts. I think/fear the globe will keep burning fossil fuels until they are too rare to be affordable.

26 EPR-radar  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 3:48:11pm

re: #23 Eclectic Cyborg

My point pretty much. So long as she was legal age to do it, I don’t see the big deal.

Prudes and busybodies abound. I still remember a story in the SF chronicle a while back about a relationship between a teacher and a former student of the teacher. Nothing in the article showed an age of consent issue, or a relationship at a time when one party was a teacher and the other was a student of the teacher.

Comments were at least 5:1 against.

27 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 3:53:49pm

I’d like to take a moment and vent about a major issue I see in American political discourse today:

The default assigning of individual beliefs and ideology based merely on the labels of “Liberal” and “Conservative” (or “Left” and “Right”).

Of course each side of the spectrum does have certain shared beliefs, but it’s completely ridiculous to say that, just because someone is in favor of raising the minimum wage, fair access to abortion and environmental preservation laws that they are automatically also in favor of say, banning all guns, higher taxes on the wealthy and the elimination of religion from public discourse.

It is also unfair to say that just because someone is Christian, anti-abortion and pro guns that they also believe Obama is a Kenyan muslim devil out to destroy America.

Man people can be and are a mix of ideologies and don’t fit the “standard profile” as it were.

It’s particularly destructive to make the assumption that all your opponents share the EXACT same beliefs simply because of the label they choose to identify with and when you do adopt such “profiling” it becomes virtually impossible to have rational political discussions.

28 thedopefishlives  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 3:54:56pm

re: #23 Eclectic Cyborg

My point pretty much. So long as she was legal age to do it, I don’t see the big deal.

It’s a whole “purity image” deal. Legally speaking, obviously, not a leg to stand on. Morally speaking, that depends on her morals. From the perception of the beauty industry, unacceptable. They don’t want their models looking sullied, even if they are sluts. They want them to keep that behind closed doors, and working in adult film is anything but.

29 EPR-radar  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 4:05:16pm

re: #27 Eclectic Cyborg

These are fair points. However, it is also true that the Republican base is monolithic in its views to a very significant degree. This has served to amplify their influence over what their raw numbers would justify.

30 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 4:05:45pm

re: #28 thedopefishlives

It’s a whole “purity image” deal. Legally speaking, obviously, not a leg to stand on. Morally speaking, that depends on her morals. From the perception of the beauty industry, unacceptable. They don’t want their models looking sullied, even if they are sluts. They want them to keep that behind closed doors, and working in adult film is anything but.

I’m just getting tired of the basic fucking hypocrisy of the whole fucking thing.

A guy has sex “WOOHOO! WAY TO GO DUDE!” or at worst “Well, boys will be boys.”

A woman has sex “WHAT A HARLOT!”

Fucking bullshit.

31 Shvaughn  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 4:09:45pm

I’m getting tired of the droners who drone on about drones.

32 EPR-radar  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 4:10:26pm

re: #30 Kragar (Antichrist )

I’m just getting tired of the basic fucking hypocrisy of the whole fucking thing.

A guy has sex “WOOHOO! WAY TO GO DUDE!” or at worst “Well, boys will be boys.”

A woman has sex “WHAT A HARLOT!”

Fucking bullshit.

One of my favorite examples of this is the panic among certain mouth breathers: ‘OMG, gay men will be looking at us as sexual objects’!

How could this be a problem for the same mouth breathers that routinely objectify women?

33 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 4:13:48pm

re: #32 EPR-radar

One of my favorite examples of this is the panic among certain mouth breathers: ‘OMG, gay men will be looking at us as sexual objects’!

How could this be a problem for the same mouth breathers that routinely objectify women?

I’ve often noted that the real source of fear is, as it were, the golden rule; they’re terrified they’ll be treated as they treat others.

34 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 4:14:22pm

The Group Behind CPAC Has a White-Nationalist Problem

For the past week, the American Conservative Union, which founded and is the primary organizer of CPAC, has showcased on its website an article from its newsletter, the Conservative Battleline, headlined “Debating Liberal Tactics” and written by Robert Weissberg. The ACU identifies Weissberg as a professor from Cornell and the University of Illinois-Urbana-Champaign and the author of 11 books. What it doesn’t mention is that Weissberg has long been affiliated with a pseudo-think tank called the New Century Foundation. This foundation publishes a magazine called American Renaissance and hosts conferences under the same name, promoting the theory of “scientific racism” and providing a forum in which Klan members, neo-Nazis, and David Duke followers can mix it up with the intellectuals of the white-nationalist movement. The Southern Poverty Law Center describes the foundation’s founder and American Renaissance editor, Jared Taylor, as a “courtly” white supremacist, who once wrote in American Renaissance, “Blacks and whites are different. When blacks are left entirely to their own devices, Western civilization—any kind of civilization—disappears.”

35 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 4:16:51pm

re: #33 William Barnett-Lewis

I’ve often noted that the real source of fear is, as it were, the golden rule; they’re terrified they’ll be treated as they treat others.

Yup, its their main motivation behind all their objections to anyone getting the same rights as them.

“Minorities get the vote? They’ll do to us what we’ve been doing to them! We’re fucked!”

36 EPR-radar  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 4:17:49pm

re: #33 William Barnett-Lewis

I’ve often noted that the real source of fear is, as it were, the golden rule; they’re terrified they’ll be treated as they treat others.

Racists provide the most compelling example of this, in their obsessing over slave revolts and mapping everything to a model of race war.

37 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 4:20:39pm

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

There’s that damned sound again. I hear it every time I see an article about this type of behaviour by those in positions of responsibility.

Youtube Video
38 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 4:21:44pm

Creationist attacks Robert Jeffress for undermining the “WORD OF GOD!”

A noted biblical apologist and expert on creationism is calling out several of his colleagues. An audience of some 300 people at the recent National Religious Broadcasters (NRB) convention in Nashville were shocked to learn of the number of evangelical leaders who don’t believe in a literal 6 days of creation narrative.

At the recent NRB convention Ken Ham, president and founder of Answers in Genesis and the Cincinnati-based Creation Museum, gave a lecture entitled, “The Age of the Earth, Biblical Authority, and the Downfall of the USA.”

During his presentation Ham showed video clips of prominent evangelicals to illustrate how some modern Christian theologians are, what he calls, compromising the Word of God.

He believes in a literal interpretation of the creation account found in the Book of Genesis.

“I’m not attacking these people personally and I’m not saying they aren’t Christians or preach the Gospel or I don’t respect them,” Ham told Christian Press News. “I’m dealing with a particular issue that is important in which God’s Word is being undermined. Wittingly or unwittingly many of these famous Christian leaders are really undermining the authority of the Word of God.”

An expert on Creationism? That’s almost as impressive as an expert on Pokemon or an expert on black velvet clown paintings.

39 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 4:24:26pm

re: #9 thedopefishlives

re: #10 Eclectic Cyborg

Hell, let’s go back to the days of swords. It’s takes balls to spill another man’s intestines on the floor.

I mention this because I’m of the opinion that the people fantasizing about a ‘war against tyranny’ will piss themselves the first time a bullet whizzes past them. Gutting another person would have them catatonic with shock.

40 Amory Blaine  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 4:24:47pm

Patient has 75 per cent of his skull replaced by 3DD-printed implant

A MAN has had 75 per cent of his skull replaced with a custom-made 3D-printed implant.

The un-named patient in the United States had his head imaged by a 3D scanner before the plastic prosthetic was crafted to suit his features.

Oxford Performance Materials in Connecticut then gained approval from US regulators before the printed bone replacement was inserted in his skull during a surgical procedure earlier this week.

41 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 4:27:20pm

Waiting for the Wingnuts to get ahold of this:

No Bible for Brennan Swearing In

“Brennan was sworn in with his hand on an original draft of the Constitution, dating from 1787, which has George Washington’s personal handwriting and annotations on it,” according to the White House. He does not appear to have placed his hand on a Bible, a Torah, a Koran, or other sacred religious text as he said the oath.

42 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 4:30:56pm

Washington Times Opinion Page:

KUHNER: Mr. Paul goes to Washington

Mr. Obama is behaving increasingly like a Roman emperor. Drunk with power, dismissive of his subjects and recognizing no restraints on his authority, he now claims the right to kill his fellow citizens. He has declared war on the Constitution and, increasingly, parts of his own country. His administration has repeatedly behaved illegally and unconstitutionally. Obamacare, suing Arizona for upholding federal immigration laws, Operation Fast and Furious, appointing countless policy “czars” possessing Cabinet-level powers without the Senate’s consent, the unauthorized war in Libya, and countless executive orders trampling the rights of Congress — we are becoming a republic in name only.

43 EPR-radar  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 4:32:07pm

re: #42 Kragar (Antichrist )

This would be the Moonie Times, right? Looks like it might not even be useful as birdcage liner.

44 allegro  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 4:32:45pm

re: #28 thedopefishlives

It’s a whole “purity image” deal. Legally speaking, obviously, not a leg to stand on. Morally speaking, that depends on her morals. From the perception of the beauty industry, unacceptable. They don’t want their models looking sullied, even if they are sluts. They want them to keep that behind closed doors, and working in adult film is anything but.

I’m biting my tongue about off here at your comment, but I will say this… OMFG, a young woman has sex so she’s “sullied?” At what point does she become a “slut”? 2, 3, 10? A fucking beauty pageant that objectifies women’s bodies to make big money gets all pretend pearl clutching when a contestant makes some money using her body? She’s not pure enough?

I’ll stop now.

45 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 4:34:00pm

re: #27 Eclectic Cyborg

I’d like to take a moment and vent about a major issue I see in American political discourse today:

The default assigning of individual beliefs and ideology based merely on the labels of “Liberal” and “Conservative” (or “Left” and “Right”).

What is sometimes fun is explaining where the terms ‘Left’ and ‘Right’ originated.

I’ve read that the National Assembly was forced to meet in the stables of the Tuileries Palace. It was the only place large enough to hold all the people involved. Since the stabling of horses forced a certain shape to the building that forced the carpenters who were building the seats to build them in a semi-circular shape. As noted in my link this made easy for the representatives who hated each other to sit as far apart as possible. To the left and right of the Speaker. So, as my favorite author points out, Western political discourse has ever since been bounded by the boarding requirements of horse.

46 Shvaughn  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 4:34:23pm

re: #44 allegro

I’m biting my tongue about off here at your comment, but I will say this… OMFG, a young woman has sex so she’s “sullied?” At what point does she become a “slut”? 2, 3, 10? A fucking beauty pageant that objectifies women’s bodies to make big money gets all pretend pearl clutching when a contestant makes some money using her body? She’s not pure enough?

I’ll stop now.

I think dopefish was describing someone else’s views, not his or own thoughts.

47 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 4:35:28pm

The ex-ACORN employee whose life was wrecked by Andrew Breitbart and James O’Keefe and just settled with O’Keefe for $100K, is going to be on the Ed Schultz show. Not a huge fan of Schultz, but I’d like to see what he has to say.

48 allegro  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 4:35:45pm

re: #46 Shvaughn

I think dopefish was describing someone else’s views, not his or own thoughts.

I couldn’t tell so I didn’t downding or tell him to fuck off. I tried to be more generous.

49 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 4:36:26pm

re: #43 EPR-radar

This would be the Moonie Times, right? Looks like it might not even be useful as birdcage liner.

Shredded and lining the bottom of a hamster cage works for me.

50 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 4:36:57pm

I’m totally enjoying watching right wing bloggers taking shots at each other over the Geller-Spencer-CPAC hilarity.

51 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 4:45:50pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

I’m totally enjoying watching right wing bloggers taking shots at each other over the Geller-Spencer-CPAC hilarity.

Good ole fashioned family fun right there.

52 EPR-radar  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 4:51:11pm

re: #38 Kragar (Antichrist )

Creationist attacks Robert Jeffress for undermining the “WORD OF GOD!”

An expert on Creationism? That’s almost as impressive as an expert on Pokemon or an expert on black velvet clown paintings.

How odd that I have something in common with Ken Ham. I am also an expert on certain aspects of Creationism.

Specifically, how young earth creationism contradicts virtually all of the physical sciences, and how creationism is used as a political tool in the US by RW interests.

53 engineer cat  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 5:01:32pm

re: #42 Kragar (Antichrist )

Washington Times Opinion Page:

KUHNER: Mr. Paul goes to Washington

Mr. Obama is behaving increasingly like a Roman

and what about that george washington?? i heard he was using a silver wine cooler at his fancy-pants parties. clearly, he is already acting like an aristocrat and getting ready to declare himself king of america!!!

54 b_sharp  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 5:12:04pm

re: #20 HoosierHoops

I’d like to bring up the topic of Climate change for a minute.
A new study has been released that is a long term study on rising temps for the last 11,300 years using ice cores and sediment cores from around the world. ” A heat spike like this has never happened before, at least not in the last 11,300 years, said climatologist Shaun Marcott, who worked on a new study on global temperatures going back that far.”
It is a very enlightening study and I urge you to read it esp. the part about changes in the last 100 years.
[Link: www.cnn.com…]

My grandkids are fucked. Thanks rightwing fucknuts.

55 Gus  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 5:13:43pm
56 Dr. Matt  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 5:15:38pm

Someone tell Rand and the diaper wetters that Drones don’t kill people, people kill people.

57 b_sharp  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 5:21:31pm

CL, are you around?

58 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 5:22:24pm

re: #55 Gus

Everything is better with lens flare.

59 Gus  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 5:23:36pm

re: #58 Charles Johnson

Everything is better with lens flare.

Here’s the one without lens flare.

Image: International-Womens-Day-2.png

60 EPR-radar  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 5:27:04pm

re: #49 Romantic Heretic

Shredded and lining the bottom of a hamster cage works for me.

Glad to hear concentrated stupidity fumes haven’t killed the hamster.

61 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 5:28:25pm

Image: h65D4FF7E.jpg

Later, lizards.

62 kirkspencer  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 5:32:35pm

(brief threadjack, update) Had the surgery today for my trimalleolar fracture. Looking at 8 weeks of minimal activity with foot stuck in the air, plus another couple of months of very light activity. I can push it faster but then I don’t get close to full recovery.

Oh, and unlike Gus there was no doubt for me. My ankle looked like this.

63 Gus  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 5:36:35pm

re: #62 kirkspencer

(brief threadjack, update) Had the surgery today for my trimalleolar fracture. Looking at 8 weeks of minimal activity with foot stuck in the air, plus another couple of months of very light activity. I can push it faster but then I don’t get close to full recovery.

Oh, and unlike Gus there was no doubt for me. My ankle looked like this.

Ouch. Mine wasn’t that bad. Damn. Good luck!

64 Gus  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 5:37:31pm

Mongo make snack.

65 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 5:41:20pm

Wow, cool - Amazon Prime video has the first three seasons of Justified, free of charge. A great show, adapted from two Elmore Leonard novels - now I can watch the whole thing in sequence.

Justified (TV Series) - Wikipedia, the Free Encyclopedia

66 engineer cat  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 5:41:52pm

serious error handling personality per language:

C/C++ : “i renounce any knowledge of your actions, give up completely and will return you suddenly to the operating system from whence you came”

Java : “i can handle it! i’ll just keep on going and i’ll be fine, really!!”

javascript : “i refuse to run, and i won’t tell you that i refuse to run. i’ll just sit in the dark and suffer, don’t mind me”

67 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 5:42:06pm

Justified: Season 1

68 Stanley Sea  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 5:43:26pm

Great NPR sit in the driveway. First Pamela Gellar and her jihad posters. Then the group countering her. “My Jihad” try’s to correctly define jihad as a struggle. My jihad against my constant weight gain. My jihad against my chemistry class.

[Link: www.npr.org…]

Then onto Dave Grohl….

It wasn’t much to look at: a nondescript building in the San Fernando Valley with hideous brown shag carpeting on the walls. But from the 1970s on, the Sound City recording studio turned out a ridiculous amount of great music: classic recordings by Fleetwood Mac, Neil Young, Tom Petty, Metallica, Rage Against the Machine and many others.

Dave buys the sound board. Got to listen.

[Link: www.npr.org…]

69 Political Atheist  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 5:44:28pm

re: #65 Charles Johnson

Wow, cool - Amazon Prime video has the first three seasons of Justified, free of charge. A great show, adapted from two Elmore Leonard novels - now I can watch the whole thing in sequence.

Justified (TV Series) - Wikipedia, the Free Encyclopedia

I have been hooked on that show from episode 1. We have our weekly Justified session without fail.

70 Gus  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 5:44:45pm

re: #62 kirkspencer

(brief threadjack, update) Had the surgery today for my trimalleolar fracture. Looking at 8 weeks of minimal activity with foot stuck in the air, plus another couple of months of very light activity. I can push it faster but then I don’t get close to full recovery.

Oh, and unlike Gus there was no doubt for me. My ankle looked like this.

Ouch. I see your x-ray in your profile. [Looks away.] :O

71 EPR-radar  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 5:44:47pm

re: #66 engineer cat

Has c/c++ gotten more forgiving in the 20 years since I’ve last touched it? I would have thought that entry should be more like: “You erred. Now you die, the girl dies, everybody dies.”

72 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 5:47:22pm

re: #68 Stanley Sea

Great NPR sit in the driveway. First Pamela Gellar and her jihad posters. Then the group countering her. “My Jihad” try’s to correctly define jihad as a struggle. My jihad against my constant weight gain. My jihad against my chemistry class.

[Link: www.npr.org…]

Geller’s fans are already hitting the comments for that page, I see.

73 thedopefishlives  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 5:49:09pm

re: #71 EPR-radar

Has c/c++ gotten more forgiving in the 20 years since I’ve last touched it? I would have thought that entry should be more like: “You erred. Now you die, the girl dies, everybody dies.”

Same concept, different phrasing. It also depends on the C++ environment, but no, one mistake will lead to your immediate termination, do not pass Go, do not collect $200.

74 engineer cat  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 5:49:40pm

re: #71 EPR-radar

Has c/c++ gotten more forgiving in the 20 years since I’ve last touched it? I would have thought that entry should be more like: “You erred. Now you die, the girl dies, everybody dies.”

it depends on how badly you bomb:

level one : error message, possibly informative

level two : program mysteriously vanishes

level three : blue screen of death

level four : holy shit! at least the bios is still resident… i hope…

75 thedopefishlives  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 5:50:40pm

re: #74 engineer cat

it depends on how badly you bomb:

level one : error message, possibly informative

level two : program mysteriously vanishes

level three : blue screen of death

level four : holy shit! at least the bios is still resident… i hope…

I’m writing an operating system kernel in C++. Nuking the BIOS is easier than you might think. The good news is that the actual BIOS itself is on EEPROM memory.

76 Gus  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 5:51:08pm

re: #72 Charles Johnson

Geller’s fans are already hitting the comments for that page, I see.

Yes. My Jihad is one big giant plot to turn America into The Islamic Republic of America. Yep. I feel threatened already. Also, I’m sure they’re flipping out thinking “THEY CAN’T DO THIS!” Irony.

77 kirkspencer  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 5:52:13pm

re: #70 Gus

Ouch. I see your x-ray in your profile. [Looks away.] :O

grin - that’s what happens when you do something when your wife said it was a bad idea.

78 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 5:53:32pm

Pamela Geller is accusing John Hawkins of being paid by Grover Norquist to spread stealth shariah. Nope, not kidding.

[Link: atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com…]

79 thedopefishlives  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 5:53:38pm

re: #77 kirkspencer

grin - that’s what happens when you do something when your wife said it was a bad idea.

“What could possibly go wrong?!”

80 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 5:54:05pm

Ed Schultz is interviewing the ex-ACORN employee now…

81 Kronocide  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 5:55:57pm

I forgot what it was that ACORN was supposedly doing. I just know they were bad and need to be defunded.

82 Stanley Sea  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 5:56:12pm

re: #62 kirkspencer

(brief threadjack, update) Had the surgery today for my trimalleolar fracture. Looking at 8 weeks of minimal activity with foot stuck in the air, plus another couple of months of very light activity. I can push it faster but then I don’t get close to full recovery.

Oh, and unlike Gus there was no doubt for me. My ankle looked like this.

Wow. Heal up.

83 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 5:56:58pm

re: #81 Kronocide

I forgot what it was that ACORN was supposedly doing. I just know they were bad and need to be defunded.

They were helping minorities register to vote, very successfully. Therefore they had to be destroyed.

84 thedopefishlives  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 5:57:33pm

re: #81 Kronocide

I forgot what it was that ACORN was supposedly doing. I just know they were bad and need to be defunded.

“Supposedly”, they were committing voter registration fraud. The truth, of course, is a stranger to the accusers.

85 EPR-radar  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 5:58:03pm

re: #83 Charles Johnson

They were helping minorities register to vote, very successfully. Therefore they had to be destroyed.

Their agitation for living wages was also totally unacceptable in a free society.

//dripping

86 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 5:59:09pm

Juan Carlos Vega’s lawyer calling out Andrew Breitbart and Fox News for promoting the false ACORN smears.

87 Gus  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 5:59:36pm

re: #77 kirkspencer

grin - that’s what happens when you do something when your wife said it was a bad idea.

You all set up now on your bed with everything you need? Leg up and all?

88 Kronocide  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 5:59:43pm

re: #83 Charles Johnson

They were helping minorities register to vote, very successfully. Therefore they had to be destroyed.


We put the minor in minority, like the Founding Fathers intended! Freedom from minority oppression. And stuffs.

89 thedopefishlives  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 6:00:23pm

re: #87 Gus

You all set up now on your bed with everything you need? Leg up and all?

He’s got LGF, what else does he need?

90 Stanley Sea  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 6:00:26pm

re: #78 Charles Johnson

Pamela Geller is accusing John Hawkins of being paid by Grover Norquist to spread stealth shariah. Nope, not kidding.

[Link: atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com…]

It always leads to crazy when her name comes up.

91 Gus  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 6:02:26pm

re: #90 Stanley Sea

It always leads to crazy when her name comes up.

We need a word for this. This isn’t a phobia. This is hate. She hates Muslims.

92 Stanley Sea  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 6:04:49pm

John McCain is droning on on get this, Piers Morgan.

93 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 6:06:22pm

re: #92 Stanley Sea

John McCain is droning on on get this, Piers Morgan.

Has he started foaming at the mouth and fallen over backwards yet?

94 Gus  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 6:06:25pm

Image: International-Womens-Day-2.png

95 Stanley Sea  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 6:06:38pm

He’s saying the words Jane Fonda.

96 Gus  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 6:06:47pm

Oops. Meant this.

97 engineer cat  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 6:08:16pm

re: #75 thedopefishlives

I’m writing an operating system kernel in C++. Nuking the BIOS is easier than you might think. The good news is that the actual BIOS itself is on EEPROM memory.

i’m building a motherboard using EEEEEKKKPROMs. they scream when you burn the data in

98 Stanley Sea  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 6:08:37pm

re: #96 Gus

Oops. Meant this.

Luggage.

99 b_sharp  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 6:10:00pm

re: #66 engineer cat

serious error handling personality per language:

C/C++ : “i renounce any knowledge of your actions, give up completely and will return you suddenly to the operating system from whence you came”

Java : “i can handle it! i’ll just keep on going and i’ll be fine, really!!”

javascript : “i refuse to run, and i won’t tell you that i refuse to run. i’ll just sit in the dark and suffer, don’t mind me”

Well said.

100 dragonath  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 6:10:15pm

re: #42 Kragar (Antichrist )

Mr. Obama is behaving increasingly like a Roman emperor.

Wait, Obama married his horse?

101 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 6:12:42pm

Tonight, I am totally pissed off at Google for breaking the HTTP_REFERER standard. Their latest changes made it impossible to know which search terms led a user to your site.

There goes Google, hoarding data like Facebook.

102 kirkspencer  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 6:15:32pm

re: #87 Gus

You all set up now on your bed with everything you need? Leg up and all?

yep. The annoying thing is that I was hoping to have interviews soon… ah well.

103 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 6:17:43pm

Seriously worth watching, direct link

also paged.

104 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 6:17:52pm

How is everyone this evening?

105 thedopefishlives  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 6:18:35pm

re: #104 FemNaziBitch

How is everyone this evening?

Shaken but not stirred.

106 darthstar  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 6:20:55pm

Hey everyone…five days in a row…WORKING! Holy fuck, how do people do this week after week? No, it’s not that bad, but I will say I really enjoyed not working a lot more (Though I will say that nobody, but NOBODY, doesn’t go back to work because they love living on unemployment benefits…that’s utter bullshit. If it hadn’t been for my wife’s salary, BofA would be starting foreclosure on us.).

Anyway, it’s Friday night, I’ve got a Manhattan in front of me, and Rachel flashing that tiny bit of cleavage on TV that makes her even more awesome…and my dogs. Life is good.

Cheers.

107 Gus  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 6:23:16pm

Derp.

108 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 6:24:12pm

re: #106 darthstar

Hey everyone…five days in a row…WORKING! Holy fuck, how do people do this week after week? No, it’s not that bad, but I will say I really enjoyed not working a lot more (Though I will say that nobody, but NOBODY, doesn’t go back to work because they love living on unemployment benefits…that’s utter bullshit. If it hadn’t been for my wife’s salary, BofA would be starting foreclosure on us.).

Anyway, it’s Friday night, I’ve got a Manhattan in front of me, and Rachel flashing that tiny bit of cleavage on TV that makes her even more awesome…and my dogs. Life is good.

Cheers.

That’s why I prefer retail or some other type of job that doesn’t require the typical 9-5. I’m can’t handle it. I’ll be happy to work 60 hours a week, just on the typical treadmill of 9-5.

109 jaunte  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 6:25:39pm

re: #107 Gus

Drones are this spring’s Deth Panils.

110 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 6:26:21pm

re: #107 Gus

Derp.

An argument literally no one on the left is making, and yet Dana is a “journalist”.

111 jaunte  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 6:26:39pm

Telling women to get a gun is not rape prevention

112 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 6:26:40pm

re: #109 jaunte

Drones are this spring’s Deth Panils.

Perhaps I’ve just read too much Sci-Fi, but I fully expected such devices to be in use someday. So it’s now. It’s just not that shocking to me.

113 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 6:27:18pm

re: #111 jaunte

Telling women to get a gun is not rape prevention

Telling young men not to rape and enforcing dire consequence would be my prevention tip.

114 thedopefishlives  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 6:30:03pm

re: #112 FemNaziBitch

Perhaps I’ve just read too much Sci-Fi, but I fully expected such devices to be in use someday. So it’s now. It’s just not that shocking to me.

Drones are technology. Ten years from now, we’ll have some other new uber-cool tech that will be a double-edged sword.

115 b_sharp  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 6:31:07pm

re: #113 FemNaziBitch

Telling young men not to rape and enforcing dire consequence would be my prevention tip.

Consequences don’t mean much. Most people who break the law do not expect to be caught.

116 b_sharp  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 6:31:29pm

re: #114 thedopefishlives

Drones are technology. Ten years from now, we’ll have some other new uber-cool tech that will be a double-edged sword.

nano-drones.

117 Gus  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 6:31:36pm

If women were packing every day and had to whip out their gun everytime they felt threatened by a man most men, maybe a lot of men, would have a gun drawn on them daily.

118 Gus  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 6:32:31pm

re: #116 b_sharp

nano-drones.

Personal, weaponized nano drone which follow you around all day. ZAPP!

119 darthstar  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 6:32:32pm

re: #108 FemNaziBitch

That’s why I prefer retail or some other type of job that doesn’t require the typical 9-5. I’m can’t handle it. I’ll be happy to work 60 hours a week, just on the typical treadmill of 9-5.

I’ve already set myself up to work 7:30 to 4ish. I can’t stand traffic. But I do like what I do…and the company is pretty cool. Looking forward to daylight savings next week as I miss running my dogs on the beach in the middle of the day…but we’ll have afternoon runs once the sun is out later.

120 darthstar  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 6:33:17pm

World Baseball Classic - Mexico-USA, 2nd inning…MLB channel.

121 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 6:33:17pm

re: #115 b_sharp

Consequences don’t mean much. Most people who break the law do not expect to be caught.

Most men who rape don’t think they are breaking the law. They may think they are doing something wrong, but not necessarily breaking the law.

Still the concept should focus more on the actor not the victim to prevent rape, IMHO.

122 EPR-radar  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 6:33:19pm

re: #115 b_sharp

Consequences don’t mean much. Most people who break the law do not expect to be caught.

Consequences need to be there, even if perpetrators don’t expect to get caught or convicted.

Giving up on consequences looks a lot like surrender in this context.

123 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 6:34:53pm

bbl

124 jaunte  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 6:34:56pm

Lubbock Tx:

Man draws gun while waiting in line for ammo

Annoyed by people cutting in line, police say a man drew his gun while waiting to buy ammunition on Friday.
….snip…
Workers at the store said every Friday morning boxes of ammunition get put on the shelves. The demand for these boxes is so high that people line up outside before the doors even open.

125 jaunte  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 6:35:28pm

It’s a universal tool: prevents rapes and line-cutting.

126 Gus  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 6:35:30pm

re: #121 FemNaziBitch

Most men who rape don’t think they are breaking the law. They may think they are doing something wrong, but not necessarily breaking the law.

Still the concept should focus more on the actor not the victim to prevent rape, IMHO.

People like Dana think it’s like the a 50s movie. The majority of rape victims know the rapist. 70%.

127 thedopefishlives  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 6:41:57pm

re: #125 jaunte

It’s a universal tool: prevents rapes and line-cutting.

And chases away a-hole drivers, apparently. I had a road-rager pull a gun on me (or so he said - I didn’t actually see the piece) after he rear-ended me.

128 Gus  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 6:42:10pm

Oy. Now someone Tweeted me and Dana. I hate it when people do that. That’s like trolling her. Not into that.

129 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 7:54:51pm

re: #74 engineer cat

it depends on how badly you bomb:

level one : error message, possibly informative

level two : program mysteriously vanishes

level three : blue screen of death

level four : holy shit! at least the bios is still resident… i hope…

This is late to the party, but the debugging is one reason i love LISP:

“Oh, there’s something amiss here. Here’s the debugger. We’ll talk for a moment and you can rewrite what went wrong. Then I’ll garbage collect and restart like nothing happened.”.

130 John Vreeland  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 1:10:55am

re: #75 thedopefishlives

A program I was once writing on a nasty deadline managed to overwrite its own source code. The day before it was supposed to be turned in, no less. Fortunately I was able to recover recent versions using a disk tool to scan unlinked sectors. Taught me to never work under those conditions again.

Yeah, like that’ll never happen.

131 John Vreeland  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 1:14:09am

re: #100 dragonath

Apparently Obama had a horse appointed to the senate. I don’t know if Obama had anything to do with it, but I see at least half a horse.


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