Gabby Giffords’s Husband Buys AR-15 to Make a Point, Wingnuts Seethe With Rage

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In another case of poor reading comprehension or blind rage and willful ignorance, breitbart.com and Gateway Pundit, aka “Dim” Jim Hoft, have led their readership in yet another bout of outrageous outrage. It appears that Gabby Gifford’s husband, Captain Mark Kelly has purchased an AR-15 and a 45 to make a point of some kind. We’ll soon find out why — but first, intrepid reporters AWR Hawkins & Neil McCabe from Breitbart report:

Gabby Giffords’s Husband Buys AR-15
by AWR Hawkins & Neil McCabe
March 9, 2013

Mark E. Kelly, gun-control proponent and husband to former Congresswoman Gabby Giffords, recently purchased an AR-15 (an “assault weapon,” he called it)—which he now says he intended as an illustration of the need for more stringent gun laws.

Kelly reportedly bought the AR-15 and a 1911-style semi-automatic pistol at a gun store in Tucson, Arizona.

Breitbart News received a tip on this when Neil McCabe, editor of Guns & Patriots newsletter, contacted us on March 7 and said:

Mark E. Kelly, made purchases which included an AR-15—sometimes described as an “assault rifle”—at 3:30 pm on the afternoon of March 5 at Diamondback Police Supply, 170 S. Kolb Street, Tucson, AZ.

According to McCabe, witnesses to the purchases claimed Kelly purchased “high capacity” magazines as well.

Now we take it to another intrepid reporter, the Accuracy in Media award winning “Dim” Jim Hoft:

Busted. Gabby Giffords’ Husband Spews Anti-Assault Weapon Rhetoric Then Caught Buying an AR-15
by Jim Hoft
March 9, 2013

Former Rep. Gabby Giffords (D-AZ), a victim of a mass shooting in 2011, and her husband, Mark Kelly, testified before a Congressional panel on gun control in January. Kelly told the assembled members of Congress that modern weapons

“Have turned every single corner of our society into places of carnage and gross human loss.”

Needless to say their respective readership are breathless with rage over what they’re seeing as hypocrisy. Twitter is alight with clueless Tweets by enraged “patriots” and many people who seem to lack reading comprehension skills. A continuing phenomenon.

So let’s have a look at what Captain Mark Kelly is attempting to do here…

On his Facebook page he provides us with an image of himself filling out the background check forms:

Then he provides us with a summary:

Looks like the judiciary committee will vote on background checks next week. I just had a background check a few days ago when I went to my local gun store to buy a 45. As I was leaving, I noticed a used AR-15. Bought that too. Even to buy an assault weapon, the background check only takes a matter of minutes. I don’t have possession yet but I’ll be turning it over to the Tucson PD when I do. Scary to think of people buying guns like these without a background check at a gun show or the Internet. We really need to close the gun show and private seller loop hole.

For those with reading comprehension skill or an inability to focus I’ll reformat what he’s doing as bullet points.

• Looks like the judiciary committee will vote on background checks next week.

• I just had a background check a few days ago when I went to my local gun store to buy a 45.

• As I was leaving, I noticed a used AR-15. Bought that too.

• Even to buy an assault weapon, the background check only takes a matter of minutes

• I don’t have possession yet but I’ll be turning it over to the Tucson PD when I do.

• Scary to think of people buying guns like these without a background check at a gun show or the Internet. We really need to close the gun show and private seller loop hole.

His point was to simply illustrate how easy it is to purchase a semi-automatic rifle, an AR-15 in this case, which he plans to turn in to the Tuscon PD.

Captain Mark Kelly and Gabrielle Giffords on their wedding day. (Reuters)

The vitriol and anger being thrown at Captain Mark Kelly, a Navy veteran, former A-6 Intruder pilot and former NASA shuttle pilot is astonishing and repugnant. Astonishing in that even though people could disagree with him and Americans for Responsible Solutions one would think they would at least show some sympathy and understanding for his motivation after the tragedy that befell his wife and the city of Tucson.

Sadly this is not the case. I invite readers to find the craziest Tweets they can find and or comments on the Facebook link, and both the Breitbart page and the Gateway Pundit page. The Tweet searches can be found here and here. The latter is the most dripping.

One last thing. These folks are making this out as though Mark Kelly was doing something sneaky, behind everyone’s back. They’re reporting it as having been “revealed after an investigation.”

An investigation involving what? Mark Kelly posted this on his Facebook page on Friday, letting everyone in the world know about it.

UPDATE at 3/10/13 4:57:54 pm

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334 comments
1 Tigger2  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 1:45:23pm

If the sun comes up in the morning the Wingnuts Seethe With Rage, the majority of the America people are sick of them.

2 Charles Johnson  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 2:37:08pm

Stand back, Gus is on fire today.

(Meanwhile, I’m almost ready to unveil an upgrade to the LGF Pages posting window.)

3 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 2:37:43pm

Already going around fb.

4 jaunte  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 2:40:52pm
Captain Mark Kelly, a Navy veteran, former A-6 Intruder pilot and former NASA shuttle pilot

..and because he favors closing the gun show background check loophole, mouth-breathing idiots will call him un-American.

5 erik_t  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 2:40:57pm

“Caught”. By himself.

Herp and derp.

6 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 2:46:20pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Stand back, Gus is on fire today.

(Meanwhile, I’m almost ready to unveil an upgrade to the LGF Pages posting window.)

Oh man, am I going to fry a brain cell trying to adapt?

7 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 2:47:12pm

re: #3 FemNaziBitch

Already going around fb.

AWR Hawkins claims that Kelly bought the AR-15 on March 5th and that someone at Diamondback Police Supply tipped Neil W. McCabe who then claims he contacted Americans for Responsible Solutions on the 6th.

McCabe then claims that ARS contacted him via email on the 8th “saying his message had been passed on to colleagues within the organization” On the 8th “Breitbart News began investigating the story in depth” and subsequently on that same Friday Kelly put up that Facebook page.

A stretched chain of events. Given the reliability of Breitbart and the rest of these right wing hacks I’ll take all that with a massive grain of salt. I’ll trust Captain Mark Kelly over these yahoo and smear merchants any day.

8 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 2:48:47pm

re: #7 Gus

AWR Hawkins claims that Kelly bought the AR-15 on March 5th and that someone at Diamondback Police Supply tipped Neil W. McCabe who then claims he contacted Americans for Responsible Solutions on the 6th.

McCabe then claims that ARS contacted him via email on the 8th “saying his message had been passed on to colleagues within the organization” On the 8th “Breitbart News began investigating the story in depth” and subsequently on that same Friday Kelly put up that Facebook page.

A stretched chain of events. Given the reliability of Breitbart and the rest of these right wing hacks I’ll take all that with a massive grain of salt. I’ll trust Captain Mark Kelly over these yahoo and smear merchants any day.

Same here. He has major credibility. Dissing him is a mistake on their part.

9 Kragar (Antichrist )  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 2:48:52pm

How dare anyone show how full of shit a Wingnut talking point might be?

10 Blue Point  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 2:49:40pm

Right Wing Hacks and sanity. Oil and Water. They piss on us all. Fuck ‘em in the neck.

11 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 2:51:21pm

re: #10 Blue Point

Right Wing Hacks and sanity. Oil and Water. They piss on us all. Fuck ‘em in the neck.

neck-fucking? who does that?

12 thecommodore  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 2:52:13pm

The face of dumb in America.

13 majii  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 2:52:55pm

Were I a republican/conservative, I’d hang my head in shame if I continued to allow myself to be manipulated by tools like Hoft. Accuracy in reporting just isn’t their thing. What they’re after are chances to elevate their profiles and to make lots of money via their web sites. I recall how astonished I was when Romney made Drudge a part of his campaign. I could have told him as early as September 2012 that he was hitching his wagon to the wrong horses when he revealed that he’d be enlisting conservative bloggers to spread the world about his campaign. Romney may have a lot of money, but he doesn’t seem to have much commonsense. If he had asked almost anyone, they would have told him that guys like Drudge, Erickson, Hoft, and Tucker Carlson are RW hacks.

14 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 2:53:43pm

re: #13 majii

Were I a republican/conservative, I’d hang my head in shame if I continued to allow myself to be manipulated by tools like Hoft. Accuracy in reporting just isn’t their thing. What they’re after are chances to elevate their profiles and to make lots of money via their web sites. I recall how astonished I was when Romney made Drudge a part of his campaign. I could have told him as early as September 2012 that he was hitching his wagon to the wrong horses when he revealed that he’d be enlisting conservative bloggers to spread the world about his campaign. Romney may have a lot of money, but he doesn’t seem to have much commonsense. If he had asked almost anyone, they would have told him that guys like Drudge, Erickson, Hoft, and Tucker Carlson are RW hacks.

Were I a republican/conservative, I’d change. Well, I did, actually.

15 Kronocide  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 2:55:08pm

re: #11 FemNaziBitch

neck-fucking? who does that?

Neck fuckers.

16 Blue Point  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 2:56:07pm

re: #11 FemNaziBitch

A phrase that I have used ever since it was uttered by an old friend at a blasted wasted 3 day festival of excess and music many moon ago. To put it in proper perspective it’s on the level of “pop out an eye and skull fuck the motherfucker.” It is in original intent an end of your spiel and your bullshit. In yo neck mofo. Tay?

17 Amory Blaine  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 2:56:53pm

A lot of these attacks are proxy for Gabby. Which make them extra despicable in my book. Has this family not earned the respect of everyone in the gun debate?

18 majii  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 2:59:05pm

re: #4 jaunte

These nuts piled on Zerlina Maxwell because she said that women shouldn’t have to arm themselves to avoid being raped, something I also believe. Reading their tweets to her, one would have thought she’d baked their moms in an oven. Their reaction was so over the top, and they spared no time in calling her a n***** and hoping someone would rape and kill her. Maxwell is a rape survivor and imo, she was speaking from her heart, but these tools didn’t care. Their only perception of her comment was that she was trying to take their guns away from them. Sad.

19 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 2:59:32pm

re: #16 Blue Point

A phrase that I have used ever since it was uttered by an old friend at a blasted wasted 3 day festival of excess and music many moon ago. To put it in proper perspective it’s on the level of “pop out an eye and skull fuck the motherfucker.” It is in original intent an end of your spiel and your bullshit. In yo neck mofo. Tay?

Well, shit on an air filter, I never heard that one!

:0

20 Jimmah  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:01:28pm

Wingnuts still unable to pass up any opportunity to reveal themselves as the unbelievably disgusting and creepy buttheads they are.

21 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:02:07pm

bbiab

22 Kronocide  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:04:10pm

re: #20 Jimmah

Wingnuts still unable to pass up any opportunity to reveal themselves as the unbelievably disgusting and creepy buttshitheads they are.

Tee hee

23 wrenchwench  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:04:46pm

What is this, Little Gus Footballs?

/way to go, Gus!

24 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:05:17pm

Dear Wingnuts.
He flew the Space Shuttle.
Your arguments are invalid.

25 wrenchwench  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:05:50pm

That sneaky Mark Giffords, hiding his plans on Facebook.

26 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:06:00pm

re: #23 wrenchwench

What is this, Little Gus Footballs?

/way to go, Gus!

Ha! Never thought of that. I think this one has potential too.

Maybe my leg is getting better.

27 wrenchwench  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:07:32pm

re: #26 Gus

Ha! Never thought of that. I think this one has potential too.

Maybe my leg is getting better.

You blog with your leg? Something’s working!

28 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:07:46pm

re: #25 wrenchwench

Neil McCabe claims he found out the same day. Of course, no one said a word until after Kelly put up his Facebook page. Hmmm.

29 AlexRogan  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:08:10pm

Had this been just about any other combat vet with Kelly’s resumé and experience (never mind the fact that the man has been in space) going out and buying these guns for shits and giggles, without trying to make the specific points that he’s trying to make, the RWNJ gun nuts would be tripping over themselves to post “FUCK YEAH!!!”s on his FB wall and welcome him into the Black Rifle club.

However, since Kelly is who he is, married to a (now former) Democratic Congresswoman who was nearly killed by a maniac with a semi-automatic pistol with a high-cap magazine (and left with some lingering disabilities from her injuries, even after her recovery and intensive rehabilitation; in that incident, some were not so lucky), the RWNJs have marked Kelly and Giffords for character assassination and humiliation, by any means necessary.

Can we call these RWNJ pigfuckers unpatriotic yet?

30 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:08:50pm

Great. Freaking MSN is legitimizing Breitbart.

31 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:09:04pm

I wasn’t sure what he was trying to do at first, but I guess his point is that background checks are so easy that there’s no reason not to have them at gun shows? Do I have that right? And they’re shitting on the man for this? Do they have no compassion at all? Oh wait, that’s a question I already have the answer for…

I don’t really ever see how a “private seller loophole” could be closed - anybody can meet in a parking lot somewhere and exchange a gun for cash, I’ve done it several times - but gun shows should be easy. All it would take is a table and a couple of phones, and a way to charge people ten bucks for the service.

I think the ultimate solution for all of this is some kind of graduated national firearms license that restricts ownership based on category of weapon, much like Europe does for motorcycle licensing. A background check would obviously be included as part of the licensing arrangement, so all you’d have to do as a private seller would be to make sure the buyer is licensed.

Of course, suggesting this to the gun crowd would be like asking if they’d like to have a bi-sexual orgy with Satan and his minions after church on Sunday… Not going to happen.

32 Jimmah  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:09:48pm

re: #22 Kronocide

Tee hee

Language, Timothy!

33 wrenchwench  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:10:02pm

re: #28 Gus

Neil McCabe claims he found out the same day. Of course, no one said a word until after Kelly put up his Facebook page. Hmmm.

He looks like spawn of Glenn Beck.

34 Helen Bedd  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:10:27pm

“Dim” Jim Hoft aka: The Gateway Dumbsh#t…..

aka: award winner at CPAC… which says a lot about that lot

35 Tigger2  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:10:38pm

re: #14 FemNaziBitch

Were I a republican/conservative, I’d change. Well, I did, actually.

LOL

36 Jimmah  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:11:35pm

re: #33 wrenchwench

He looks like spawn of Glenn Beck.

I’m genuinely creeped out.

37 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:12:48pm

Wasn’t kidding. MSN is using Breitbart as a source.

38 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:13:30pm

re: #36 Jimmah

I’m genuinely creeped out.

That’s why I uploaded it. It’s included in the body of text of the page. Bwahahaha!

40 wrenchwench  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:14:55pm

re: #34 Helen Bedd

Welcome, hatchling.

41 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:16:16pm

DERP. Tell me again, what sovereign nation Chris Kyle was the leader of?

42 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:18:47pm

DERP

43 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:19:38pm

THAT’S WHY HE TOTALLY LOST THE ELECTION!

44 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:20:05pm

So again. Breitbart and no one else mentioned anything about Mark Kelly buying an AR-15 until AFTER Kelly published his Facebook page.

45 wrenchwench  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:20:41pm

re: #37 Gus

Wasn’t kidding. MSN is using Breitbart as a source.

Is that their version of Fox Nation? Has the disgusting and illiterate comments:

I am so sick of hearing about gaby gifford.

46 wrenchwench  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:21:25pm

re: #44 Gus

So again. Breitbart and no one else mentioned anything about Mark Kelly buying an AR-15 until AFTER Kelly published his Facebook page.

Well, MSN did say “reportedly”. That makes it ok.

/

47 Jimmah  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:21:58pm

re: #38 Gus

That’s why I uploaded it. It’s included in the body of text of the page. Bwahahaha!

An Eeeeevil Glen Beck clone?

48 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:22:02pm

OK, stand by to get pissed off.

49 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:22:42pm


50 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:23:05pm

Gabby Giffords man-servant

Where are these assholes from?

51 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:24:52pm

Where.

52 StephenMeansMe  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:24:53pm

Huh, I read his explanation as less of a “what! so easy to buy these guns? there oughta be a law!” and more of a “see, even with background checks it’s no big deal.” But then again, I’m not twitchy-paranoid about… screw it, I can’t even come up with a stupid conspiracy theory that matches the actual stuff being mainstreamed out there.

Something something gubmint gunz no-bill-of-rights-Constitution glenn beck prisonplanet.

53 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:24:57pm

re: #50 Gus

Assholepoilis is where they are from. It is near Derpville. //

54 engineer cat  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:26:05pm

re: #42 Vicious Babushka

Within the covers of the Bible are the answers for all the problems men face.” -Ronald Reagan

except for email spam. that’s not covered

55 Tigger2  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:26:12pm

re: #42 Vicious Babushka

DERP

I don’t trust anything Ronald Reagan one of the fathers of union busting says.

56 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:30:39pm

re: #28 Gus

Neil McCabe claims he found out the same day. Of course, no one said a word until after Kelly put up his Facebook page. Hmmm.

Yeah, I don’t see any evidence of the wingnuts having the story first forcing him to backpeddle. The pic was taken on the customer side of the counter so it’s possible that whoever took it was with him. But his story seems odd to me about making a point about no background checks at gun shows by buying the weapon at a store that requires background checks. Whoever else could have also bought this weapon would also be required to get a background check. If he wanted to take a gun off the market he should have bought it at a gunshow without background checks. I guess I don;t really get the point. He probably paid over $1,000 bucks. That’s an expensive facebook pic for a weapon he was just going to give to police. Lot’s of ugly comments on his facebook. Some people saying this would count as a straw purchase since he’s not buying it for himself and would have possibly lied on the form. I have no idea if that’s true but I sort of doubt it.

57 Kragar (Antichrist )  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:30:50pm

re: #41 Vicious Babushka

DERP. Tell me again, what sovereign nation Chris Kyle was the leader of?

Wingnuttia.

58 Stanley Sea  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:31:08pm

re: #24 Varek Raith

Dear Wingnuts.
He flew the Space Shuttle.
Your arguments are invalid.

Qft and his wife was shot.

They have nooooo shame.

59 Jimmah  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:32:41pm

Another busy day tomorrow - night folks

Youtube Video
60 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:32:52pm

re: #53 PhillyPretzel

Assholepoilis is where they are from. It is near Derpville. //

Man’s wife gets shot in the head and nearly days and is left with serious disabilities and they call him a man-servant. Imagine if someone from the left said that about a former United States Navy A-6E Intruder pilot, Gulf War veteran, Navy Captain, NASA STS pilot and commander and former one time ISS commander?

61 Decatur Deb  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:33:05pm

Sun going down here in about an hour—Those with good skies might have decent a shot a comet PanSTARRS after sunset.

62 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:33:24pm

re: #17 Amory Blaine

A lot of these attacks are proxy for Gabby. Which make them extra despicable in my book. Has this family not earned the respect of everyone in the gun debate?

The wingnuts and gun nuts, two sets of which there is considerable overlap, respect no one but themselves.

As a cartoon I saw years ago puts it, “There are only two types of people: gun owners and sheep. And sheep aren’t really people.”

63 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:35:16pm

re: #50 Gus

Where are these assholes from?

Uranus.

64 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:36:12pm

re: #61 Decatur Deb

Sun going down here in about an hour—Those with good skies might have decent a shot a comet PanSTARRS after sunset.

Like all celestial events, we’re clouded over here in Portland and can’t see shit.

65 AlexRogan  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:39:33pm

re: #63 Vicious Babushka

Uranus.

More like Theiranus, since that’s where their heads are at.

66 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:42:05pm

Like this comment from Facebook:

Jarrett Terrill

Do you people really think ANYONE is dumb enough to do this (and take a photo of themselves doing it) purely out of hypocrisy? Breitbart followers really need to re-examine where they’re getting their facts and opinions from.

67 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:43:16pm

DERP. TEH LIBRUL SNOAPS ZAYS IT TEH BULLSHIT.

68 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:43:58pm

Yeah. While I was trying to secretly purchase and AR-15 I had someone take a picture of me and let me have said picture. I also walked into a gun store to get an AR-15, me Mark Kelly, who is well known by most of the American people and especially guns folks who would never know who I am.

Right?

69 engineer cat  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:44:06pm

note for tha boss:

by coincidence, tonite tcm is showing a short by the swing band in the cartoon short posted yesterday:

jan savitt and his band, short, 1946

70 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:44:43pm

re: #68 Gus

Yeah. While I was trying to secretly purchase and AR-15 I had someone take a picture of me and let me have said picture. I also walked into a gun store trying get an AR-15, me Mark Kelly, who is well known by most of the American people and especially guns folks who would never know who I am.

Right?

AND HE PUT IT ON HIS VERY OWN FACEBOOK PAGE!!!11!!!

71 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:46:09pm

re: #67 Vicious Babushka

DERP. TEH LIBRUL SNOAPS ZAYS IT TEH BULLSHIT.

And if true said CEO is going to get his butt sued into the grave.

72 Tigger2  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:47:09pm

re: #67 Vicious Babushka

DERP. TEH LIBRUL SNOAPS ZAYS IT TEH BULLSHIT.

As far as I’m concerned that employer is a pure and simple asshole.

73 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:48:02pm

Hi! My name is Mark Kelly! I’d like to buy an AR-15. Now don’t tell anyone. Wink, wink. Hey, why don’t you take a picture of me filling out the forms. Now don’t tell anyone. Wink, wink.

Yep, that’s how I’d do it.

//

74 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:48:38pm

re: #72 Tigger2

As far as I’m concerned that employer is a pure and simple asshole.

It’s Teh Bullshit, it never happened.

75 Tigger2  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:49:36pm

re: #74 Vicious Babushka

It’s Teh Bullshit, it never happened.

Nice I missed that part. lol The truth is it’s just so damn hard any more to tell bullshit from actual shit the wingnuts do.

76 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:51:14pm

re: #75 Tigger2

Nice I missed that part. lol

Wingnuts wish they would be business owners that hire that many employees so they could all fire the ones with “Obama” bumper stickers!

But here’s the thing, someone who voted for Obama won’t want to work for rice & gruel.

77 Stanley Sea  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:51:23pm

Gun freaks are just that. Freaks. They’ll sing a different tune if gun violence ever comes close to their little wingnut cocoon

78 wrenchwench  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:51:42pm

re: #56 Killgore Trout

But his story seems odd to me about making a point about no background checks at gun shows by buying the weapon at a store that requires background checks.

I think the idea was to demonstrate that background checks would not be a major inconvenience at gun shows.

79 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:51:46pm

And not everybody like to put bumper stickers on their car.

80 Bubblehead II  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:51:54pm

re: #34 Helen Bedd

+1 for the word play in your Nic.

81 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:55:13pm

I haz chili.

82 Mich-again  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:55:29pm

I would compare the MOAR GUNZ crowd to stampeding wildebeests, but that would be an insult to wildebeests.

83 Mich-again  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:56:32pm

re: #77 Stanley Sea

Gun freaks are just that. Freaks. They’ll sing a different tune if gun violence ever comes close to their little wingnut cocoon

Ted Nugent is the perfect poster child for the gun nuts.

84 Stanley Sea  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:57:07pm

re: #81 Varek Raith

I haz chili.

I’m getting green toes as we speak. A pretty green mind.you.

85 jaunte  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:58:05pm

One problem with the straw purchase laws is, you can decide you don’t want the gun after you have possession of it for a few minutes.

86 Mentis Fugit  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 3:59:27pm

re: #63 Vicious Babushka

Uranus.

No way I’ve ever crapped out anything that toxic. I’d remember.

87 Kragar (Antichrist )  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:02:30pm

Massive dust storm engulfs Tokyo

A huge dust storm hit Tokyo Sunday, blanketing the city with brown dust that darkened the skies and rapidly transformed what had been a clear and sunny day.

Visibility in the capital deteriorated quickly as dry dust particles whirled through the air.

Meteorologists said the phenomenon was caused by a sudden cold front, and was not linked with the suffocating pollution that hung over the Chinese capital Beijing last winter.

88 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:04:09pm

re: #56 Killgore Trout

Yeah, I don’t see any evidence of the wingnuts having the story first forcing him to backpeddle. The pic was taken on the customer side of the counter so it’s possible that whoever took it was with him. But his story seems odd to me about making a point about no background checks at gun shows by buying the weapon at a store that requires background checks. Whoever else could have also bought this weapon would also be required to get a background check. If he wanted to take a gun off the market he should have bought it at a gunshow without background checks. I guess I don;t really get the point. He probably paid over $1,000 bucks. That’s an expensive facebook pic for a weapon he was just going to give to police. Lot’s of ugly comments on his facebook. Some people saying this would count as a straw purchase since he’s not buying it for himself and would have possibly lied on the form. I have no idea if that’s true but I sort of doubt it.

Kelly has also spent much time voicing support for Feinstein’s Assault Weapons ban. So if the point is to say that background checks are no big deal and should be universal, and they should, it seems kind of disingenuous to extend that point to a weapon he’d see banned entirely. If that was the point he wanted to make he could have stopped at the 1911, and turning in the AR to the police betrays his real position on the platform, that with regards to them background checks should be irrelevant.

Anyway, in the end it’s his money and his free speech, which under Citizen’s United are apparently the same thing. So even though I only support the half of his position relating to background checks, if this is the way he wants to advance his political views then more power to him.

89 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:04:10pm

Breitbart:

• “Friends of Hamas”
• ACORN
• Shirley Sherrod

And that’s just the short list.

Now we’re supposed to believe this?

90 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:04:41pm

re: #78 wrenchwench

I think the idea was to demonstrate that background checks would not be a major inconvenience at gun shows.

Yeah, I think that seems what he was going for. The wingnuts claim they contacted reporters about the story last week. Unless some reporter comes forward saying they were tipped about the story before his facebook post then we’ll know who’s telling the truth. I don’t expect that to happen.

91 sagehen  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:06:05pm

re: #85 jaunte

One problem with the straw purchase laws is, you can decide you don’t want the gun after you have possession of it for a few minutes.

Once, sure.

But no jury’s going to buy that story if you do the same thing five or six times a day. Eight or ten days a month. For months in a row.

92 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:06:41pm

re: #90 Killgore Trout

Yeah, I think that seems what he was going for. The wingnuts claim they contacted reporters about the story last week. Unless some reporter comes forward saying they were tipped about the story before his facebook post then we’ll know who’s telling the truth. I don’t expect that to happen.

Gee, let’s see…
Not Breitbart.
Next!

93 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:06:48pm

re: #89 Gus

Breitbart:

• “Friends of Hamas”
• ACORN
• Shirley Sherrod

And that’s just the short list.

Now we’re supposed to believe this?

Of course they blew their credibility long ago but then there’s Anthony Wiener. Shit happens.

94 The Ghost of a Flea  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:07:28pm

re: #77 Stanley Sea

Gun freaks are just that. Freaks. They’ll sing a different tune if gun violence ever comes close to their little wingnut cocoon

I don’t have the language to say this precisely, but it seems to me the difference between a gun owner and the gun fetishist is the manner in which the object signifies all the forms of privilege they’re unwilling to question.

95 wrenchwench  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:08:26pm

re: #93 Killgore Trout

Of course they blew their credibility long ago but then there’s Anthony Wiener. Shit happens.

Magical Balance Fairy just tripped over somebody’s Weiner.

96 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:09:05pm

re: #85 jaunte

One problem with the straw purchase laws is, you can decide you don’t want the gun after you have possession of it for a few minutes.

Especially in Arizona. That’s why the Fast and Furious ATF agents had to allow 19 year olds on food stamps to buy $20K worth of rifles in one go, because the prosecutors told them State law allowed the change of mind to occur nanoseconds after the form was signed.

Their real crime in Republican eyes was trying to keep track of the serial numbers of suspect transactions, thereby setting up a dreaded database.

97 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:13:33pm

I guess my skepticism comes from recent experience of a rash of robberies in my neighborhood over the past year. After a failed daylight home invasion a few weeks ago even the most progressive/hippie/commie liberal is thinking of buying a gun. One, with past legal troubles, is even talking about a gunshow purchase before they close the loophole. I know of two new gun purchases on my block over the past few weeks.
I think it’s a recipe for disaster. The backyard growers are already talking about their plans, it’s like living in Humbolt county in the summer around here. Too many people growing and the smell is going to attract a lot of thieves. With all the new gun owners in the neighborhood somebody could get hurt.

98 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:13:34pm

re: #93 Killgore Trout

Of course they blew their credibility long ago but then there’s Anthony Wiener. Shit happens.

Maybe that’s what killed Andrew. He finally realized, “oh shit, I finally told the truth.” Grabbed his heart and fell to the ground. //

99 The Ghost of a Flea  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:14:29pm

re: #95 wrenchwench

Magical Balance Fairy just tripped over somebody’s Weiner.

It’s almost like honesty isn’t an unlockable game achievement, but a condition achieved by continuous vigilance, honest consideration after a failing, and the slow build of a solid reputation.

You know, like anti-racist and feminist credentials.

100 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:15:32pm

Since nobody’s mentioned it, implicit in the term straw purchase is the idea that the intended secondary transferee isn’t allowed to purchase a firearm themselves. This, quite obviously, isn’t the case when it’s your local PD.

101 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:18:37pm

re: #97 Killgore Trout

I guess my skepticism comes from recent experience of a rash of robberies in my neighborhood over the past year. After a failed daylight home invasion a few weeks ago even the most progressive/hippie/commie liberal is thinking of buying a gun. One, with past legal troubles, is even talking about a gunshow purchase before they close the loophole. I know of two new gun purchases on my block over the past few weeks.
I think it’s a recipe for disaster. The backyard growers are already talking about their plans, it’s like living in Humbolt county in the summer around here. Too many people growing and the smell is going to attract a lot of thieves. With all the new gun owners in the neighborhood somebody could get hurt.

So you think Mark Kelly might have thought he could walk into a gun shop in his own back yard after having been on television and magazines a billion times for the past year to purchase an AR-15 and get away with it?

102 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:18:59pm

Not only television and magazine but the intertoobs.

103 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:19:36pm

re: #97 Killgore Trout

One, with past legal troubles, is even talking about a gunshow purchase before they close the loophole.

They’re SOL, the gun show loophole doesn’t exist in Oregon. Background checks are required on all sales and transfers regardless of location.

104 Mentis Fugit  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:21:46pm

re: #95 wrenchwench

Magical Balance Fairy just tripped over somebody’s Weiner.

Anthony Weiner - former U.S. Representative
Avid ShitterDavid Vitter - is the junior United States Senator from Louisiana

IOK, as always, IYAR

105 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:24:03pm

re: #103 goddamnedfrank

They’re SOL, the gun show loophole doesn’t exist in Oregon. Background checks are required on all sales and transfers regardless of location.

Ah, I didn’t know that. I was surprised that one of the new gun owners bought a pistol at a pawn shop with no permit requirement. I thought there was a permit required for handguns. I don’t know shit about gun laws and even after my break in experience last year, a gun wasn’t a serious consideration for me. It seems like a recipe for legal troubles I don’t need. I’ll take my chances with my alarm system and pepper spray.

106 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:26:04pm

re: #101 Gus

So you think Mark Kelly might have thought he could walk into a gun shop in his own back yard after having been on television and magazines a billion times for the past year to purchase an AR-15 and get away with it?

I don’t know. He’s not shy about buying the 45. After what his family has been through I don’t fault him. As far as I’m concerned be can buy whatever legal gun he wants.

107 blueraven  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:26:23pm

OT…but I just had to run up to the local convenience store. Turned on AM radio and there was this woman talking to Limbaugh.

Woman:
Help me Rush! The Obama administration has closed the military medical referral office in (name a town). My husband has been deployed and I am sick and cant get a referral to see a specialist.
Rush:
Obama is trying to inflict the maximum pain. This is deliberate on his part for political gain.

So the across the board defense and non defense discretionary spending cuts have real consequences. Oh my!
When it involves diddoheads and congress critters who want to schedule WH tours for constituents, it’s Obama’s fault and it is bad.
When poor children are cut from education and meals programs it’s a good thing. Got it.

Look, I feel bad for the woman and hope she can get in to see a Dr. soon. But what did the people who wanted to see these cuts take place think was going to happen?

108 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:27:25pm

re: #105 Killgore Trout

Ah, I didn’t know that. I was surprised that one of the new gun owners bought a pistol at a pawn shop with no permit requirement. I thought there was a permit required for handguns. I don’t know shit about gun laws and even after my break in experience last year, a gun wasn’t a serious consideration for me. It seems like a recipe for legal troubles I don’t need. I’ll take my chances with my alarm system and pepper spray.

You closed the loophole in 2000 by voter referendum. If you voted in 2000 the issue was on your ballot. You only need a permit for concealed carry, but the pawn shop purchase would have required a background check.

109 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:27:55pm

re: #106 Killgore Trout

I don’t know. He’s not shy about buying the 45. After what his family has been through I don’t fault him. As far as I’m concerned be can buy whatever legal gun he wants.

There are people as you know who are perfectly fine with owning a gun for the home such as a 45 that also support an assault weapons ban, magazine limits, and expanded BG checks.

110 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:30:24pm

re: #101 Gus

So you think Mark Kelly might have thought he could walk into a gun shop in his own back yard after having been on television and magazines a billion times for the past year to purchase an AR-15 and get away with it?

Actually, now that I think of it: Since there’s no evidence the wingnuts outed him before his facebook post it would seem possible that he can go on TV advocating for the assault weapons ban then walk into his local gunshop and buy an AR15 without too much commotion. Without his facebook post wingnuts wouldn’t have known (according to available evidence)

111 engineer cat  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:30:28pm

re: #107 blueraven

OT…but I just had to run up to the local convenience store. Turned on AM radio and there was this woman talking to Limbaugh.

Woman:
Help me Rush! The Obama administration has closed the military medical referral office in (name a town). My husband has been deployed and I am sick and cant get a referral to see a specialist.
Rush:
Obama is trying to inflict the maximum pain. This is deliberate on his part for political gain.

So the across the board defense and non defense discretionary spending cuts have real consequences. Oh my!
When it involves diddoheads and congress critters who want to schedule WH tours for constituents, it’s Obama’s fault and it is bad.
When poor children are cut from education and meals programs it’s a good thing. Got it.

Look, I feel bad for the woman and hope she can get in to see a Dr. soon. But what did the people who wanted to see these cuts take place think was going to happen?

if you asked them personally i’m sure they’d tell you that half of federal spending goes to Bad Negroes On Welfare

and no, they’re not joking

112 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:30:31pm

re: #108 goddamnedfrank

Edit: The Oregon loophole was closed in 2000, not 2010.

113 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:32:44pm

re: #108 goddamnedfrank

You closed the loophole in 2000 by voter referendum. If you voted in 2000 the issue was on your ballot. You only need a permit for concealed carry, but the pawn shop purchase would have required a background check.

Ah. I’m thinking of asking my hippie friend to take me to the range. I’ve never shot before. Could be kinda fun.

114 AlexRogan  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:33:04pm

re: #93 Killgore Trout

Of course they blew their credibility long ago but then there’s Anthony Wiener. Shit happens.

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.

115 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:37:52pm

re: #110 Killgore Trout

Actually, now that I think of it: Since there’s no evidence the wingnuts outed him before his facebook post it would seem possible that he can go on TV advocating for the assault weapons ban then walk into his local gunshop and buy an AR15 without too much commotion. Without his facebook post wingnuts wouldn’t have known (according to available evidence)

I just did a Google search with a time constraint of one week, sorted by date, and with the parameters “Giffords’s” and AR-15 and the first mentions were 20 hours ago or Saturday. Mark Kelly posted on Facebook on Friday.

116 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:40:37pm

OT I somehow ended up on the American Family Association mailing list a long while back, and today they sent me an ad for Ethiopian Yirgacheffe coffee (!). Here’s the copy from their ad… I wasn’t sure it was even from the AFA until I saw the bolded part:

Yirgacheffe (your-ga-chef-ay) is from the southern region of Ethiopia and is considered to be the premier coffee of Ethiopia. The coffee much like Spring, will come alive in your mouth with sweet notes of citrus, bergamot and slight hints of maple and finishes with a sweet coating on your tongue. Along with being one of the select coffees of the world, this particular coffee also supports native church planting in Ethiopia.

Gawd, Jayzus, stopping the queers… And coffee. Ohhhhkee dokee then… Yeah… Thanks kids, I’ll stick to buying it some filthy liburl place like Central Market.

117 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:40:38pm

re: #115 Gus

It took them that long to find it. Oh my. They should have jumped on it the very second it appeared on Facebook. //

118 AlexRogan  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:41:18pm

re: #113 Killgore Trout

Ah. I’m thinking of asking my hippie friend to take me to the range. I’ve never shot before. Could be kinda fun.

Definitely is fun.

I love target and trap shooting whenever I get the chance (usually when our Scout troop goes to summer camp…that is, if and when I get the time to when we’re there).

119 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:44:54pm

re: #115 Gus

I just did a Google search with a time constraint of one week, sorted by date, and with the parameters “Giffords’s” and AR-15 and the first mentions were 20 hours ago or Saturday. Mark Kelly posted on Facebook on Friday.

If he still hasn’t taken possession it’s possible the gun shop could refuse the sale on the grounds that he’s stated his intention to transfer before actually having the rifle in hand. He won’t face any straw sale charges because the PD would be allowed to own the gun, but the gun store owner might not take kindly to the PR stunt nature of the transaction. I wouldn’t if it was my livelihood on the line.

120 Kragar (Antichrist )  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:45:36pm

Top Republican Strategist: GOP ‘Doesn’t Give Equal Opportunity To Women’

SCHMIDT: I think in any organization where women are not at the table, where it is skewed male in today’s day and age, that’s an organization that’s deficient. That’s an organization that’s going to have problems. It’s one of the problems we have structurally in the Republican Party. We don’t have enough women at the table. But any company, any organization in today’s day and age that doesn’t give equal opportunity to women, that doesn’t advance women to the table, is going to be an organization that has difficulty competing.

121 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:45:54pm

Wingnuts still crapping out this TOTALLY FAKE STORY which even DailyCaller admitted to being PWN3D

122 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:47:06pm

DERP

123 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:48:38pm

re: #122 Vicious Babushka

DERP

“gun-control Nazi”

For fuck’s sake… Are these people huffing paint before they post? Methamphetamines maybe? Is there not a single coherent thought in their empty little heads?

124 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:49:10pm

DERP. Still trying to co-opt MLK even though he TOTALLY VOTED DEMOCRAT.

125 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:53:52pm

re: #119 goddamnedfrank

If he still hasn’t taken possession it’s possible the gun shop could refuse the sale on the grounds that he’s stated his intention to transfer before actually having the rifle in hand. He won’t face any straw sale charges because the PD would be allowed to own the gun, but the gun store owner might not take kindly to the PR stunt nature of the transaction. I wouldn’t if it was my livelihood on the line.

If McCabe is telling the truth, that he was tipped, than obviously they would have had to have known who he was at this gun store.

126 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:54:42pm

Fuck these people.

127 Stanley Sea  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:57:03pm

re: #126 Gus

Fuck these people.

Breathtaking hate. Look these people up. They deserve it.

128 JeffFX  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:57:10pm

re: #37 Gus 802

Wasn’t kidding. MSN is using Breitbart as a source.

My feedback to MSN Now:
Last week I was very impressed, and wrote to you to compliment you on your excellent handling of the comments section of a story about the tragic death of a student.

Now I’m disappointed to see that you’re reprinting nonsense from the propaganda site Breitbart.com.

Are you unfamiliar with the closed-loop right-wing echo chamber’s nontroversies, or are you just posting nonsense to get page views?

We all suffer from the ignorance promoted by extremist websites like Breitbart.com as they dumb down the population with non-stop fake-outrages, and having these fools legitimized by MSN harms us all.

Please research your sources and refrain from reprinting fools.

Thanks for your time,

Jeff

129 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:57:55pm

re: #125 Gus

If McCabe is telling the truth, that he was tipped, than obviously they would have had to have known who he was at this gun store.

He had to put his name on the form. I’m sure the shop owners knew who he was. They’re probably well informed on the issues in their business and what he’s about. So far there’s no evidence (aside from wingnut claims) that the store owners blew the whistle on him. I’m not sure of the business ethics involved but maybe the store owners saw it as a confidential transaction.

130 Charles Johnson  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 4:58:23pm

re: #126 Gus

I added that tweet as an update.

131 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:00:10pm

Holy shit. Warning on this one.

132 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:00:52pm

re: #126 Gus

This stuff definitely needs to be showcased in a big feature article somewhere. That level of hate is directed at an astronaut, Navy pilot, and senator’s spouse, from the “Patriotic” right wing. How telling. Put that shit up on Fox News, and let’s see all the pundits squirm trying to defend it…

(I’d say we devise a way to ship these people to the Moon, but I wouldn’t want to dirty up the Moon like that.)

133 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:01:33pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

I added that tweet as an update.

Thanks. Look at 131. Just starting to look on Twitter.

134 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:02:10pm

re: #131 Gus

That one needs reporting. ::: looking for brain bleach :::

135 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:02:30pm

re: #125 Gus

If McCabe is telling the truth, that he was tipped, than obviously they would have had to have known who he was at this gun store.

We can assume that they should have known, yeah, what with Kelly being a local celebrity with vocal opinions about heavily regulating their industry and banning entire lines of merchandise.

On the other hand maybe they gave him the benefit of the doubt, or some young hourly worker had no idea who he was when writing up the sale.

Either way we can admit that at this point that the AR-15 purchase is a PR stunt, right? That seems to be the entire purpose of the transaction from Kelly’s point of view, even if the stunt started out as a spur of the moment decision on top of the legit 1911 purchase. So why exactly should the gun store owner go ahead and complete the transfer? It appears that they have more than enough reason not to.

136 Stanley Sea  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:04:42pm

re: #131 Gus

Holy shit. Warning on this one.

No. Just no. Those 20 dead children are a puff of smoke in these freaks minds.

So. Much. Hate.

137 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:06:15pm

re: #136 Stanley Sea

No. Just no. Those 20 dead children are a puff of smoke in these freaks minds.

So. Much. Hate.

No, “20 dead children” are NOTHING compared to “55 million abortions!11!!!!”

Srsly. That’s how they think.

138 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:06:33pm

DERP.

139 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:06:39pm

re: #136 Stanley Sea

No. Just no. Those 20 dead children are a puff of smoke in these freaks minds.

So. Much. Hate.

Done.

Let’s see what they do.

140 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:07:38pm

DERP


DERP

141 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:11:25pm

re: #136 Stanley Sea

No. Just no. Those 20 dead children are a puff of smoke in these freaks minds.

So. Much. Hate.

142 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:12:54pm

DERP. Fact: Actually the other way around. (Can’t reply, BetseyRoss has blocked me for correcting FAKE QUOTE)

143 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:14:32pm

re: #142 Vicious Babushka

She has to protect her sources.

144 Bubblehead II  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:14:41pm

re: #131 Gus

Holy shit. Warning on this one.

@GabbyGiffords Someone should shove a dick in your mouth because our hypocritical ass won’t shut the fuck up.

Freudian slip there?

145 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:17:57pm

re: #140 Vicious Babushka

DERP

The Plan is working perfectly!

MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

You know, I never realized how many tweakers use Twitter until you started compiling their Tweets. Damn…..meth really rots the brain fast.

Almost as fast as RWNJ politics!

146 Kragar (Antichrist )  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:18:00pm

re: #138 Vicious Babushka

DERP.

Because that is how businesses work.
/

147 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:20:45pm
148 JeffFX  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:21:58pm

re: #145 Dr Lizardo

The RWNJ tweeters couldn’t do a better job of discrediting conservatives if George Soros paid them to do so. It’s nice that they do it for free.

149 chadu  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:21:58pm

Mark Kelly is a fricking astronaut.

There are only 4, 5 dozen humans alive that can claim that, right?

Sheesh.

150 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:23:01pm

Just watch, Oath Keeper is gonna totally block me. CAN’T HAVE LIBRULS REPLYING WITH LINKS TO ACTUAL FACTS!!!11111

Oath Keepers are totally creepy.

151 Iwouldprefernotto  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:23:53pm

re: #148 JeffFX

The RWNJ tweeters couldn’t do a better job of discrediting conservatives if George Soros paid them to do so. It’s nice that they do it for free.

re: #148 JeffFX

The RWNJ tweeters couldn’t do a better job of discrediting conservatives if George Soros paid them to do so. It’s nice that they do it for free.

How do we really know that Soros ins’t paying them to be extra stupid?

152 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:24:12pm

re: #147 Vicious Babushka

According to Wikipedia Wallace ran as a Democrat and as an American Independent [Link: encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com…]

153 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:24:29pm

DERP DE DERP

154 Stanley Sea  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:25:03pm

re: #149 chadu

Mark Kelly is a fricking astronaut.

There are only 4, 5 dozen humans alive that can claim that, right?

Sheesh.

They have completely, totally, fully lost any patriot cred the falsely claimed.

Sick fucking people, er, neighbors.

155 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:26:15pm

I can’t even keep up with all the Fake Quotes, just the most egregious, debunked-with-one-Google-hit Fake Quotes.

156 blueraven  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:26:16pm

re: #135 goddamnedfrank

We can assume that they should have known, yeah, what with Kelly being a local celebrity with vocal opinions about heavily regulating their industry and banning entire lines of merchandise.

On the other hand maybe they gave him the benefit of the doubt, or some young hourly worker had no idea who he was when writing up the sale.

Either way we can admit that at this point that the AR-15 purchase is a PR stunt, right? That seems to be the entire purpose of the transaction from Kelly’s point of view, even if the stunt started out as a spur of the moment decision on top of the legit 1911 purchase. So why exactly should the gun store owner go ahead and complete the transfer? It appears that they have more than enough reason not to.

I think he is making a point. Call it a PR stunt if you want. I dont see it that way. If it is that easy to get a BG check and purchase an AR 15, why cant the gun show loophole be closed?
How would this harm the legitimate dealer?

157 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:26:32pm

re: #148 JeffFX

The RWNJ tweeters couldn’t do a better job of discrediting conservatives if George Soros paid them to do so. It’s nice that they do it for free.

You know, if I were President, I would devote 5 minutes of my weekly radio address to reading these Tweets live to the American public, with my own occasional snarky commentary.

Let America see these people for what they really are….ugly, twisted, hate-filled imbeciles.

158 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:26:34pm

Well, that’s about the worst one Twitter sent to Gabby. There’s a few more which are basically dumb.

159 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:26:43pm

DERP

160 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:27:07pm

re: #154 Stanley Sea

They have completely, totally, fully lost any patriot cred the falsely claimed.

Sick fucking people, er, neighbors.

Let’s call them what they are.

Un-American traitors.

161 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:27:17pm

re: #155 Vicious Babushka

They have lists of them and they keep spreading them.

162 Kragar (Antichrist )  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:27:42pm

re: #150 Vicious Babushka

Just watch, Oath Keeper is gonna totally block me. CAN’T HAVE LIBRULS REPLYING WITH LINKS TO ACTUAL FACTS!!!11111

Oath Keepers are totally creepy.

I think Oaf Creepers is how it is supposed to be pronounced.

163 chadu  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:27:50pm

re: #50 Gus

Where are these assholes from?

I am getting angry. At this sort of stupidity and hatefulness.

164 wrenchwench  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:28:27pm

re: #159 Vicious Babushka

(Good for the Gander?)

Does that refer to being shot in the head?

165 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:29:46pm

re: #161 PhillyPretzel

They have lists of them and they keep spreading them.

I think there are automated bots that keep reTweeting this crap. Anytime I catch an actual live wingnut in the act they are all EEEEEE!!!! BLOCK TEH LIBRUL BABUSHKA FOR INTERRUPTING FAKE QUOTE FUN!!!1111!!!! but the bots just keep botzing.*

GEEZ BOTZ=Yiddish for fart.

166 JeffFX  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:30:35pm

re: #164 wrenchwench

I think they’re just saying that the big astronaut gets to have one while wanting to take them away from the proles. It’s totally delusional of course.

167 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:31:28pm

re: #164 wrenchwench

Does that refer to being shot in the head?

Not to me it doesn’t.

168 chadu  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:32:49pm

re: #104 Mentis Fugit

Anthony Weiner - former U.S. Representative
Avid ShitterDavid Vitter - is the junior United States Senator from Louisiana

IOK, as always, IYAR

Word. I’m disgusted.

169 dragonath  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:33:25pm

I never thought I’d say this but George Bush is a lot more likable than Jeb.

170 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:33:43pm

re: #165 Vicious Babushka

I think so too.

171 Stanley Sea  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:37:15pm

re: #169 dragonath

I never thought I’d say this but George Bush is a lot more likable than Jeb.

And what a (bizarre) artist.

172 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:40:31pm

FRIENDS OF HAMAS!!11!!!!!


173 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:41:30pm

re: #172 Vicious Babushka

Geez, what fucktards.

174 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:41:46pm

re: #135 goddamnedfrank

We can assume that they should have known, yeah, what with Kelly being a local celebrity with vocal opinions about heavily regulating their industry and banning entire lines of merchandise.

On the other hand maybe they gave him the benefit of the doubt, or some young hourly worker had no idea who he was when writing up the sale.

Either way we can admit that at this point that the AR-15 purchase is a PR stunt, right? That seems the entire purpose of the transaction from Kelly’s point of view, even if the stunt started out as a spur of the moment decision on top of the legit 1911 purchase. So why exactly should the gun store owner go ahead and complete the transfer? It appears that they have more than enough reason not to.

I suppose they could cancel the sale, I wouldn’t blame them, But then that would shift the headline to moonbats screaming “Wingnut NRA extremist business refuses service to Democrats!”. They’d be wise to just let this play out on its own.

175 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:42:59pm

re: #172 Vicious Babushka

DERP

176 chadu  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:45:02pm

re: #154 Stanley Sea

They have completely, totally, fully lost any patriot cred the falsely claimed.

Sick fucking people, er, neighbors.

My Fred Rogers-based worldview is taking a beating here.

177 Stanley Sea  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:45:39pm

re: #174 Killgore Trout

I suppose they could cancel the sale, I wouldn’t blame them, But then that would shift the headline to moonbats screaming “Wingnut NRA extremist business refuses service to Democrats!”. They’d be wise to just let this play out on its own.

What planet are you broadcasting from?

178 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:45:39pm

re: #173 Varek Raith

Geez, what fucktards.

This F*I*R*E**A*N*D*R*E*A**M*I*T*C*H*E*L*L blog has at least 3 socks and they all tweet the same crap at the exact same time.

179 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:46:46pm

re: #178 Vicious Babushka

This F*I*R*E**A*N*D*R*E*A**M*I*T*C*H*E*L*L blog has at least 3 socks and they all tweet the same crap at the exact same time.

They must be fuming. Andrea Mitchell was never fired and she’s still around. I remember those days. The dark days of the Iraq War. DERP.

180 chadu  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:47:30pm

re: #177 Stanley Sea

Planet MBF.

181 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:48:55pm

So Mark Kelly bought an AR-15 that he intends to have destroyed or used by the police. So what? It’s his money and he can spend it to buy such a weapon and then destroy same if he wishes to. He has the same property rights as any American citizen who has not committed a serious crime.

182 chadu  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:49:24pm

Really starting to think many of our pundits never watched Schoolhouse Rock.

183 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:51:40pm

re: #174 Killgore Trout

I suppose they could cancel the sale, I wouldn’t blame them, But then that would shift the headline to moonbats screaming “Wingnut NRA extremist business refuses service to Democrats!”. They’d be wise to just let this play out on its own.

They’d be foolish to do so. The store has its money, and Mr. Kelly has broken no laws. Unless they reasonably think he intends to break the law (and he’s made clear he’s isn’t), then what he lawfully does with his purchase after taking possession of it is not the store owner’s business.

184 Charles Johnson  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:57:34pm

I’ve been lost in the code today - working on the pieces of our Twitter oAuth system, which can be a bit of a brain-twister, but I finally have a really good understanding of the process. With detours along the way into various Javascript alleys and byways.

185 Charles Johnson  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:58:28pm

Had to get out a legal pad and draw diagrams at one point. That’s how bad it was.

186 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:58:56pm

This search is pretty funny in its own way.

At least for now.

187 Charles Johnson  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:00:57pm

By the way, when Gabrielle Giffords and Mark Kelly announced their gun control initiative, they said very clearly that they were gun owners themselves. (I didn’t see anyone mention that.)

188 Stanley Sea  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:01:37pm

re: #185 Charles Johnson

Had to get out a legal pad and draw diagrams at one point. That’s how bad it was.

I am an old school fan if pencil (not pen) and paper. Sets me apart I guess. Results baby. All that matters.

189 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:03:30pm

re: #185 Charles Johnson

Had to get out a legal pad and draw diagrams at one point. That’s how bad it was.

Hooray for flow charts!

190 Stanley Sea  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:03:34pm

Phone typos. Apologies.

191 Charles Johnson  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:03:56pm

OAuth. Come on in. The water’s fine.

192 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:05:20pm

re: #187 Charles Johnson

And a lot of folks won’t mention it because if you own a gun you are supposed to go all the way to own as many as you can. As I have stated earlier I just have one Ruger SP-101 and I hope I never have to use it.

193 HoosierHoops  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:11:32pm

re: #184 Charles Johnson

I’ve been lost in the code today - working on the pieces of our Twitter oAuth system, which can be a bit of a brain-twister, but I finally have a really good understanding of the process. With detours along the way into various Javascript alleys and byways.

Do you have any in-site to why javascript versions are so lame?
It never seemed to care about backwards compatibility. There are lots of programs that won’t run except a certain version and if you automatically allow version downloads you never know what will happen.. everything will either stop or certain functions will mess up. After Sun sold off Java and javescript to Oracle I was expecting big things and new innovation..The sky was the limit for Databases. A big mistake if you ask me.

194 Charles Johnson  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:13:51pm

As part of the oAuth implementation, I had to find out how to use jQuery to trigger an event in the browser window that opened the Twitter authorization popup window. Yes, you can do this.

195 jamesfirecat  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:15:59pm

re: #181 Dark_Falcon

So Mark Kelly bought an AR-15 that he intends to have destroyed or used by the police. So what? It’s his money and he can spend it to buy such a weapon and then destroy same if he wishes to. He has the same property rights as any American citizen who has not committed a serious crime.

I think most of the wingnuts who are commenting on this event do not realize he plans to have the gun destroyed and so think he is a hypocrite for decrying assualt weapons and yet still buying one.

So once again a lack of reading comprehension has unleashed the derps of war.

196 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:16:29pm

re: #192 PhillyPretzel

And a lot of folks won’t mention it because if you own a gun you are supposed to go all the way to own as many as you can. As I have stated earlier I just have one Ruger SP-101 and I hope I never have to use it.

Simply owning several or many guns isn’t any way to tell what a person thinks. I own 4 rifles, 1 shotgun and 3 handguns (but, then, I sold a bunch lately to cover bills) and I favor universal BG checks with teeth and an expansion of the NFA. A liberal retired cop who is a friend of mine has a walk in gun safe about the size of my living room. He collects guns & writes books about them but no one is going to mistake him for a gun nut.

197 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:17:33pm

re: #156 blueraven

I think he is making a point. Call it a PR stunt if you want. I dont see it that way. If it is that easy to get a BG check and purchase an AR 15, why cant the gun show loophole be closed?
How would this harm the legitimate dealer?

It only harms the legit dealer if/when an AWB is pushed through, which Kelly has stated his support for. You can argue that Kelly is simply advancing his arguments piecemeal, trying to divorce them from one another, but that could have been done with the 1911 alone, which Kelly apparently intends to keep.

198 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:20:26pm

re: #197 goddamnedfrank

It only harms the legit dealer if/when an AWB is pushed through, which Kelly has stated his support for. You can argue that Kelly is simply advancing his arguments piecemeal, trying to divorce them from one another, but that could have been done with the 1911 alone, which Kelly apparently intends to keep.

Well, the M1911A1 is a good choice for home defense. I think that buying an AR-15 just to destroy it is a DERP myself, but its his money, so if he wants to spend it on a PR stunt then that’s his right.

199 thedopefishlives  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:21:28pm

Evening Lizardim.

200 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:22:45pm

re: #196 William Barnett-Lewis

I agree.

201 engineer cat  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:24:17pm

dear ‘Support Oath Keepers’,

FACT: you wouldn’t know one if it bit your dick off

202 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:24:31pm

Speaking of guns in the Southwest:

Youtube Video

The cartels of Juarez, Mexico, are at war with a group of Mormons, some of whom are related to Mitt Romney. We went there to document the conflict, meet Romney’s Mormon family, and find out more about how US policy is impacting the war on drugs.

The vid was posted on a site I’ve been reading yesterday, but it was posted to YouTube back in September.

203 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:25:56pm

WINGNUT TOTALLY PISSED ABOUT BEING CORRECTED FOR FAKE QUOTE.

205 engineer cat  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:29:01pm

i feel sure that i must be saving daylight

206 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:29:54pm

OBAMA STOLE AN HOUR WHILE EVERYBODY WAZ SLEEPIN1!!11111

207 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:31:04pm

re: #206 Vicious Babushka

That is how the wingnuts see it.

208 kirkspencer  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:31:15pm

re: #197 goddamnedfrank

It only harms the legit dealer if/when an AWB is pushed through, which Kelly has stated his support for. You can argue that Kelly is simply advancing his arguments piecemeal, trying to divorce them from one another, but that could have been done with the 1911 alone, which Kelly apparently intends to keep.

Betcha that if an AWB is pushed through it won’t hurt most legit dealers. They’ll still carry handguns, they’ll still carry hunting rifles and shotguns.

Right now there’s a massive spike in AR sales, with more sold in the past couple of years than in the preceding decade. Any businessman relying on a bubble continuing is not a good businessman.

209 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:32:52pm

UNLESS THEY JOIN A YOONYUN, THEN THEY IS COMMUNISTS!111!!!


210 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:40:37pm

re: #177 Stanley Sea

What planet are you broadcasting from?

Youtube Video
211 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:41:04pm

OUTRAGE!

212 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:41:09pm

THESE PEOPLE ARE TOTALLY DERANGED.

213 Charles Johnson  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:43:06pm

How you know I was really in a coding trance - I missed the first half of The Walking Dead. Arghhhh!

214 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:46:18pm

re: #208 kirkspencer

Betcha that if an AWB is pushed through it won’t hurt most legit dealers. They’ll still carry handguns, they’ll still carry hunting rifles and shotguns.

Right now there’s a massive spike in AR sales, with more sold in the past couple of years than in the preceding decade. Any businessman relying on a bubble continuing is not a good businessman.

There are several dozen different domestic American makers of AR15’s and they were all expanding before the current craziness. That’s how popular and ubiquitous the platform is. Whatever bubble exists - exists because of the threat of government interference, so the argument is incredibly disingenuous, that the same threat that creates a huge increase in sales, a bubble, will have no net effect on the market once the threat is followed up upon and a ban instituted. You can’t just extinguish such a hugely popular product line and pretend that it won’t have effects down stream. Anyway, AWB advocates couldn’t care less about any impact on the industry, so the pretense about neutral market impact is just that, pretense.

215 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:47:15pm

re: #213 Charles Johnson

How you know I was really in a coding trance - I missed the first half of The Walking Dead. Arghhhh!

SPOILER: THINGS ARE HAPPENING, AND CERTAIN CHARACTERS ARE INVOLVED.

216 Kragar (Antichrist )  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:48:21pm

re: #201 engineer cat

dear ‘Support Oath Keepers’,

FACT: you wouldn’t know one if it bit your dick off

Wouldn’t you need baleen to actually make sure you get a hold of it?

217 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:48:29pm

re: #214 goddamnedfrank

Whatever bubble exists - exists because of the threat of government interference,

This is not true. A lot of the current bubble is clearly from absolutely unreasonable paranoia about the sale of guns being banned en masse. It’s not just the Ar-15, people are buying guns that have no chance of being banned.

218 Kragar (Antichrist )  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:48:38pm

re: #215 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

SPOILER: THINGS ARE HAPPENING, AND CERTAIN CHARACTERS ARE INVOLVED.

YOU BASTARD!

219 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:48:53pm

re: #215 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

You can say that about almost every book, show, or life.

220 thedopefishlives  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:50:02pm

re: #213 Charles Johnson

How you know I was really in a coding trance - I missed the first half of The Walking Dead. Arghhhh!

Sometimes you just get in that zone.

221 chadu  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:52:45pm

Interesting.

I am shit with a pistol, less-than average with a rifle, better than average with a bow, and quite good with shuriken and throwing knives.

Weird.

222 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:53:29pm

re: #221 chadu

Interesting.

I am shit with a pistol, less-than average with a rifle, better than average with a bow, and quite good with shuriken and throwing knives.

Weird.

I am awesome with a pie! Pie ninja.

223 Charles Johnson  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:54:08pm

I’ll just time-shift the re-broadcast.

224 thedopefishlives  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:55:32pm

re: #222 Vicious Babushka

I am awesome with a pie! Pie ninja.

Pie sounds good. Pie and ice cream for the fish household, which is suffering from the flu. Following hard on the heels of a nasty outbreak of rotavirus, we are sick and tired of being sick and tired.

225 chadu  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:56:05pm

re: #222 Vicious Babushka

I am awesome with a pie! Pie ninja.

Pie NINJA! Whoop!

(I made another Frankenstein ramen tonight, and used up all my kombu.)

226 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:57:07pm

Teh DERP still Derping. Once it gets out in the wild, it spreads faster than norovirus on a cruise ship.

227 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:57:09pm

re: #224 thedopefishlives

Get well soon.

228 Kragar (Antichrist )  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:58:39pm

re: #221 chadu

Interesting.

I am shit with a pistol, less-than average with a rifle, better than average with a bow, and quite good with shuriken and throwing knives.

Weird.

I was a much better shot with the M249 than with an M-16.

229 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 6:59:02pm

DERP


TEH LIBRUL SNOAPS SEZ THIS IS TEH BULLSHIT.

230 jaunte  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:03:08pm

re: #229 Vicious Babushka

The Obamas’ Law Licenses

A court official confirms that no public disciplinary proceeding has ever been brought against either of them, contrary to a false Internet rumor. By voluntarily inactivating their licenses, they avoid a requirement to take continuing education classes and pay hundreds of dollars in annual fees. Both could practice law again if they chose to do so.

Annenberg Public Policy Center. More libruls.

231 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:03:55pm

this is the Meme that never ends
It just goes on and on my friends
Some wingnuts started Tweeting it not knowing what it was
And then continued Tweeting it forever just because
This is the Meme that never ends

232 chadu  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:04:31pm

re: #225 chadu

Self-reply.

Kombu does well with dark greens: spinach, mustard greens, and collard greens.

I think this week’s food experiment is seeing how it does with cabbage.

…

Now I have to come up with a cabbage-based recipe.

HURM.

233 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:05:55pm

re: #232 chadu

Self-reply.

Kombu does well with dark greens: spinach, mustard greens, and collard greens.

I think this week’s food experiment is seeing how it does with cabbage.

…

Now I have to come up with a cabbage-based recipe.

HURM.

Sauerkraut!

234 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:06:14pm

Stuffed cabbage!

235 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:06:15pm

re: #213 Charles Johnson

How you know I was really in a coding trance - I missed the first half of The Walking Dead. Arghhhh!

Dammit - I forgot to adjust my microwave clock & didn’t realize it was on. Now I’m going to be up late watching the recording… Effing DST… Arrrrgh

236 chadu  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:07:07pm

re: #231 Vicious Babushka

Image: mallylambchop.jpg

237 jaunte  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:07:48pm
238 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:08:53pm

re: #229 Vicious Babushka

DERP


TEH LIBRUL SNOAPS SEZ THIS IS TEH BULLSHIT.

Go get ‘em!

239 chadu  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:09:39pm

re: #233 Vicious Babushka

I do a sauerkraut, barley, brown sugar, kielbasa casserole that would rock your world.

Needs mashed potatoes, though.

240 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:10:20pm

Also.

Q: Did Barack and Michelle Obama “surrender” their law licenses to avoid ethics charges?

A: No. A court official confirms that no public disciplinary proceeding has ever been brought against either of them, contrary to a false Internet rumor. By voluntarily inactivating their licenses, they avoid a requirement to take continuing education classes and pay hundreds of dollars in annual fees. Both could practice law again if they chose to do so.

[Link: www.factcheck.org…]

241 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:10:40pm

re: #239 chadu

I do a sauerkraut, barley, brown sugar, kielbasa casserole that would rock your world.

Needs mashed potatoes, though.

Sounds like something Zedushka would enjoy, but churns my stomach just reading the ingredients. :

242 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:10:49pm

Is that all they do? Lie? And most of these people are self described Christians.

243 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:11:11pm

*FACE PALM*

244 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:11:26pm

re: #230 jaunte

The Obamas’ Law Licenses

Annenberg Public Policy Center. More libruls.

Of course, Obama did have some ties to the Annenberg PPC prior to running for office. They’re right, still, but I think it wise to point that out so as to forestall the inevitable screaming.

245 chadu  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:12:05pm

re: #234 Vicious Babushka

Stuffed cabbage!

My problem there is that my family SUCKED at stuffed cabbage and stuffed peppers.

I’ve had infinitely better versions out here in the world, but cooking it myself, I have no rudder. (and the recipes I have on hand from the fam are CRAP.)

246 jaunte  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:12:30pm

Mexican marines have freed 104 kidnapped Central American migrants who were being held in a house in the border city of Nuevo Laredo, authorities said Sunday.
[Link: www.chron.com…]

247 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:12:33pm

re: #243 Vicious Babushka

*FACE PALM*

Govt?

248 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:12:57pm


249 thedopefishlives  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:14:42pm

re: #242 Gus

Is that all they do? Lie? And most of these people are self described Christians.

The rules don’t apply to the devout.

250 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:14:51pm

re: #243 Vicious Babushka

*FACE PALM*

251 chadu  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:15:16pm

re: #241 Vicious Babushka

Sounds like something Zedushka would enjoy, but churns my stomach just reading the ingredients. :

It actually works together.

But mashed potatoes are necessary thing, to reduce sweetness and fattiness.

Or some other mushy starch.

It’s a family recipe that happens to work; what can I say?

252 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:15:52pm

re: #248 Gus

U CAN’T TRUST SNOAPZ!111!!! IT TEH LIBRUL SOROS!!!!!11111!!!!!TY

You would think Soros would pay for better web design.

253 chadu  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:16:25pm

re: #243 Vicious Babushka

I… I have no words. I… no.

254 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:17:38pm

DERP DERP HURR HURR
The Meme Mutates, like a virus

255 chadu  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:18:55pm

Deal me out, Lizards. Goodnight.

256 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:19:35pm

re: #252 Vicious Babushka

You would think Soros would pay for better web design.

I know. Librul this. Libtard that. They can’t trust anything.

257 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:22:36pm

re: #239 chadu

I do a sauerkraut, barley, brown sugar, kielbasa casserole that would rock your world.

Needs mashed potatoes, though.

Recipe! Now! Please! :D

258 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:23:06pm

re: #256 Gus

I know. Librul this. Libtard that. They can’t trust anything.

WE R TEH SMART WUNZ, LIBRULS IS TEH DUMBIES


(This doesn’t explain why they keep reTweeting Fake Quote and other Fakety Fake stuff that has been debunked a zillion times but LIBRULZ

259 palomino  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:23:17pm

re: #56 Killgore Trout

Yeah, I don’t see any evidence of the wingnuts having the story first forcing him to backpeddle. The pic was taken on the customer side of the counter so it’s possible that whoever took it was with him. But his story seems odd to me about making a point about no background checks at gun shows by buying the weapon at a store that requires background checks. Whoever else could have also bought this weapon would also be required to get a background check. If he wanted to take a gun off the market he should have bought it at a gunshow without background checks. I guess I don;t really get the point. He probably paid over $1,000 bucks. That’s an expensive facebook pic for a weapon he was just going to give to police. Lot’s of ugly comments on his facebook. Some people saying this would count as a straw purchase since he’s not buying it for himself and would have possibly lied on the form. I have no idea if that’s true but I sort of doubt it.

Yeah, what’s the point of his making a political statement about guns? It’s not like he knows someone who got shot and nearly died and now suffers from cognitive disorders as a result.

And $1,000? My God, that’s so irresponsible of him to spend so much money demonstrating a point publicly to honor his now disabled wife.

260 Kragar (Antichrist )  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:23:50pm

re: #256 Gus

I know. Librul this. Libtard that. They can’t trust anything.

They should take their guns and their bibles and go live in the wilderness far, far away from evil liberals.

261 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:24:10pm

Good Night to my fellow Lizards.

262 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:24:34pm

re: #260 Kragar (Antichrist )

They should take their guns and their bibles and go live in the wilderness far, far away from evil liberals.

I thought they already did?

263 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:24:38pm

I will see you on the bottom of the overnight thread, in the morning.

Peace out,

(From the formerly guitar-strummin’ hippie Babushka)

264 Kragar (Antichrist )  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:25:02pm

re: #262 Gus

I thought they already did?

They need to go away more.

265 palomino  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:25:44pm

re: #260 Kragar (Antichrist )

They should take their guns and their bibles and go live in the wilderness far, far away from evil liberals.

Now that’s the kind of self-deportation I can actually support.

266 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:25:54pm

re: #264 Kragar (Antichrist )

They need to go away more.

Like this?

Youtube Video
267 thedopefishlives  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:25:59pm

re: #264 Kragar (Antichrist )

They need to go away more.

They’d rather just kick us out. Which is problematic, because we kinda like it here. Or we would, if they’d just bugger off.

268 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:26:30pm

re: #217 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

This is not true. A lot of the current bubble is clearly from absolutely unreasonable paranoia about the sale of guns being banned en masse. It’s not just the Ar-15, people are buying guns that have no chance of being banned.

Okay, but it’s pretty clear that I was talking about ARs and answering a proposition that banning ARs outright would have no net effect on the retail level of the industry. Yes, the carry over effects that the discussion of federal and implementation of state AWBs have had on the market are almost entirely a combination of irrational paranoia and cynical profiteering.

269 b_sharp  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:26:44pm

The wingnut propaganda machine is utilizing social networking to reach heights in misinformation never imagined by even the most evil of historic manipulators.

270 Interesting Times  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:29:15pm

re: #269 b_sharp

The wingnut propaganda machine is utilizing social networking to reach heights in misinformation never imagined by even the most evil of historic manipulators.

Why go to the trouble of inventing Newspeak™ when the perpetual wingnut derp enclosure will automatically screen out facts?

271 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:30:53pm

re: #249 thedopefishlives

The rules don’t apply to the devout.

It’s taqqiya, I tell you!!

Oh, wait…..

272 The Ghost of a Flea  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:32:15pm

Apparently I’ve been doing guns wrong for years.

I’ve practicing with them, occasionally killing something for food or necessity, and kept them carefully put away under lock and key, all the while not making a big deal about it.

Instead I’m supposed to be protesting about how I deserve a fucking freedom cookie for how totally awesome I am for being prepared to defend myself against wholly hypothetical, no-fucking-way adolescent battle fantasies.

Then again, apparently I’m also off in that I approach the concept of violence versus another person as a necessity as opposed to some kind of fuck-yeah confirmation of my manly individualism.

273 jaunte  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:32:54pm

More Cocaine Could Soon Be on Our Streets, Thanks to the Sequester

…the Navy is pulling back from an operation that kept 160 tons of cocaine and 25,000 pounds of marijuana out of the United States last year. The program, called “Operation Martillo,” was a joint effort between the Navy, Air Force, Coast Guard, Drug Enforcement Agency, and governmental agencies in Europe and Latin America. But now, due to sequestration, the Navy will not deploy two of its ships slated to replace two homebound Navy vessels that were participating in the program.

Private sector yachtsmen decline to take up the slack.

274 b_sharp  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:33:25pm

It is completely possible to avoid tripping the Godwin trigger.

275 kirkspencer  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:33:46pm

re: #268 goddamnedfrank

Okay, but it’s pretty clear that I was talking about ARs and answering a proposition that banning ARs outright would have no net effect on the retail level of the industry. Yes, the carry over effects that the discussion of federal and implementation of state AWBs have had on the market are almost entirely a combination of irrational paranoia and cynical profiteering.

Well, yeah, it’s pretty clear that’s what you were talking about - but it’s not what I said. I said that retail dealers who were reasonable would continue to be able to operate if/when the AWB popped. Entirely different. I said they’d continue to have sales - not the explosive situation where everything has been flying off the shelves for a couple of years now, but still be sustainable.

And you went, well, I’m not sure. Apparently you were hearing something else.

276 thedopefishlives  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:34:32pm

re: #274 b_sharp

It is completely possible to avoid tripping the Godwin trigger.

Yeah, but that takes all the fun out of un-civil discourse.

277 b_sharp  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:35:17pm

re: #272 The Ghost of a Flea

Apparently I’ve been doing guns wrong for years.

I’ve practicing with them, occasionally killing something for food or necessity, and kept them carefully put away under lock and key, all the while not making a big deal about it.

Instead I’m supposed to be protesting about how I deserve a fucking freedom cookie for how totally awesome I am for being prepared to defend myself against wholly hypothetical, no-fucking-way adolescent battle fantasies.

Then again, apparently I’m also off in that I approach the concept of violence versus another person as a necessity as opposed to some kind of fuck-yeah confirmation of my manly individualism.

I wish I could double-ding that, but people are watching.

278 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:36:47pm

re: #275 kirkspencer

Well, yeah, it’s pretty clear that’s what you were talking about - but it’s not what I said. I said that retail dealers who were reasonable would continue to be able to operate if/when the AWB popped. Entirely different. I said they’d continue to have sales - not the explosive situation where everything has been flying off the shelves for a couple of years now, but still be sustainable.

And you went, well, I’m not sure. Apparently you were hearing something else.

No you said it wouldn’t hurt them.

Betcha that if an AWB is pushed through it won’t hurt most legit dealers.

If you want to define down hurt to mean they’ll be able to downsize and remain in business fine, but it will have a noticeable impact on their bottom line.

279 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:36:58pm

re: #274 b_sharp

It is completely possible to avoid tripping the Godwin trigger.

Yes, but it takes imagination, decency, or both.

280 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:37:58pm

Good evening Lizards.

Brilliant day in Philadelphia. Warmer (50s) and sunny out. Went out and watched the St Patrick’s Day parade (yes a week early) and then walked around near the Art Museum and Fairmont Park. Came home late afternoon and took a hint from the cats and took a nice nap with a little sun.

Currently watching ESPN coverage of the WBC - and the announcers are in Spanish (Dom Rep vs PR). I wish the US sports announcers would watch this since the announcers are not convinced that they need to yap all the time. Empty air time to allow for listening to the background crowd noise and simply see the action like you were there is a *good* thing.

281 kirkspencer  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:52:43pm

re: #278 goddamnedfrank

No you said it wouldn’t hurt them.

If you want to define down hurt to mean they’ll be able to downsize and remain in business fine, but it will have a noticeable impact on their bottom line.

It won’t hurt them, not if they’re being smart at all.

If your normal business is $5k per month but due to this you’re making closer to $50k per month, can’t keep weapons on your shelves, then if you’ve got a brain you’re packing that away for when the explosion ends. If you’ve done that you won’t get hurt.

If on the other hand you’ve bought into the bubble you’ll get hurt.

And it isn’t downsizing if you recognize and plan for a temporary excess sales period, not plan for “tulip sales to go nowhere but up.”

282 Bubblehead II  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:56:02pm

Night Lizards As for this debate tonight about Gun Control. Let me quote the great Bard.

A Pox upon both of your Houses.

283 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:58:01pm

re: #281 kirkspencer

Made up numbers are fun.

If you lose access to a product you were selling lots of in prior years, it’s going to effect your long term bottom line.

284 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 7:58:50pm

re: #283 goddamnedfrank

Made up numbers are fun.

If you lose access to a product you were selling lots of in prior years, it’s going to effect your long term bottom line.

Too bad.

285 Mich-again  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 8:01:18pm

re: #254 Vicious Babushka

I just smacked down a FB “friend” who posted the Breitbart story with his own commentary to boot. It must have been pretty embarrassing when I provided the link to the original FB post after he made it out to be a big bust. ha. Its like shooting fish in a barrel.

286 kirkspencer  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 8:03:01pm

re: #283 goddamnedfrank

Made up numbers are fun.

If you lose access to a product you were selling lots of in prior years, it’s going to effect your long term bottom line.

Yeah, they’re fun. Let’s put it in simple reality. There is a difference between “not as much profit” and “loss”, though both count as an effect on the bottom line. I contend that if the AWB happens the result will be “not as much profit”. Further, I think that there will be a buffer period as the same people playing into the bubble purchase a number of “legal” guns in preparation for the soon-to-happen Obamapocalypse.

And I’m basing it on what happened to dealers back when the AWB passed the first time.

There will be some who go under - who will convince themselves that tulips - sorry, that ARs will go on forever. They’re idiots to match the customers who seem to think a bunch of ARs in the house will protect them from the government even more than having one.

287 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 8:15:12pm

re: #284 Varek Raith

Too bad.

That at least is an honest point of view. If you don’t care then there’s no need to pretend otherwise.

288 Varek Raith  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 8:18:11pm

re: #287 goddamnedfrank

That at least is an honest point of view. If you don’t care then there’s no need to pretend otherwise.

Indeed, I do not care about the profits of the gun industry.

289 Mich-again  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 8:18:58pm

re: #286 kirkspencer

There will be some who go under - who will convince themselves that tulips - sorry, that ARs will go on forever. They’re idiots to match the customers who seem to think a bunch of ARs in the house will protect them from the government even more than having one.

The bad part about having a house full of weapons and ammo for the epic battle to fight tyranny is that all it takes is one drone strike and then blammo!
/

290 Tigger2005  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 8:21:36pm

re: #11 FemNaziBitch

neck-fucking? who does that?

(cough)

291 Lidane  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 8:25:55pm
The vitriol and anger being thrown at Captain Mark Kelly, a Navy veteran, former A-6 Intruder pilot and former NASA shuttle pilot is astonishing and repugnant.

No it isn’t. It’s par for the course for the American right wing.

292 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 8:30:22pm

re: #291 Lidane

No it isn’t. It’s par for the course for the American right wing.

They’re coming for your guns! Was just hobbling back from the kitchen thinking, “what a weird country.”

293 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 8:33:20pm

re: #288 Varek Raith

Indeed, I do not care about the profits of the gun industry.

How about impacting the vast majority of gun crime, which is caused by compact handguns and not assault weapons? If you’re going to threaten an entire, constitutionally protected industry then at least go for the meat of the problem.

The top 10 guns used in crimes in the U.S. in 2000, according to an unpublished study by U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and obtained exclusively by TIME:

1. Smith and Wesson .38 revolver
2. Ruger 9 mm semiautomatic
3. Lorcin Engineering .380 semiautomatic
4. Raven Arms .25 semiautomatic
5. Mossberg 12 gauge shotgun
6. Smith and Wesson 9mm semiautomatic
7. Smith and Wesson .357 revolver
8. Bryco Arms 9mm semiautomatic
9. Bryco Arms .380 semiautomatic
10. Davis Industries .380 semiautomatic

The list is derived from the center’s investigations of 88,570 guns recovered from crime scenes in 46 cities in 2000, is being analyzed for ATF’s youth gun crime interdiction initiative, which helps local police forces understand and counter gun trafficking to youth in their jurisdictions.

One measure by which ATF gauges a gun’s appeal as an offensive (rather than a defensive or sporting) weapon is its “time-to-crime” factor — how long after its sale it is used in a crime. Revolvers, not generally used as an offensive weapon, had a median time-to-crime of 12.3 years, according to the 2000 figures. At the other extreme, Bryco Arms 9mm semiautomatics recovered from kids younger than18 had a median time-to-crime of 1.5 years, and those recovered from suspects aged 18 to 24 had a median time-to-crime of 1.1 years. The Hi Point 9mm is another downscale semiautomatic frequently seized from suspects in the 18-to-24 age range; it has a time-to-crime span of just one year.

294 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 8:34:59pm

re: #289 Mich-again

The bad part about having a house full of weapons and ammo for the epic battle to fight tyranny is that all it takes is one drone strike and then blammo!
/

Or be running some of your reloading machinery in your basement and unknowingly attracting the graboids.
;)

295 blueraven  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 8:45:33pm

re: #293 goddamnedfrank

How about impacting the vast majority of gun crime, which is caused by compact handguns and not assault weapons? If you’re going to threaten an entire, constitutionally protected industry then at least go for the meat of the problem.

And how many of those guns do you reckon were purchased with no background check?

Look, I think everyone pretty much knows that the Assault Weapons Ban will not pass right now. But maybe the universal BG check will, and possibly a ban on the sale of high capacity magazines.

Yes, you ask for more than you think you will get and bargain for the best deal possible.

296 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 8:45:58pm

re: #293 goddamnedfrank

How about impacting the vast majority of gun crime, which is caused by compact handguns and not assault weapons? If you’re going to threaten an entire, constitutionally protected industry then at least go for the meat of the problem.

A point I’ve made as well. Mass shootings may be shocking, but if you really want to go after the guns that are used to commit crimes, go after small easily concealed pistols. Wouldn’t have to ban them, just limit their sale to those who have a valid CCW or FFL.

297 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 8:48:38pm

During my 20 or so years in Denver I’ve lived within block of two Denver cops being shot and killed in two separate incidents. Another a toddler was shot and killed by a man attempting to murder another man. 5 people were stabbed and set ablaze in another event. I have known Aurora all this time. I knew Columbine and even knew of one of the teens that was on the kill list. Another mass murder in bowling alley nearby where I worked.

298 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 8:51:47pm

LOL That nut “Gus_807” is still Tweeting me. I knew these last two articles would freak the stalkers out. God what idiots. How many years now? Maybe I should buy a gun to protect myself. Derp.

299 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 8:52:18pm

Or you could look at Chicago in 2010:

The Top 10 recovered firearms, used in a crime within a year of purchase. Chicago Police recovered 960 firearms between 2008 and 2010 that were involved in crimes within a year of purchase, according to the University of Chicago Crime Lab. Here are the top 10 types:

1. Hi-Point C-9, 9mm semiautomatic pistol. 56 recovered. 5.8% of total.
2. Ruger P95 9MM semiautomatic handgun. 38 recovered. 4.0% of total.
3. Smith & Wesson SW40VE .40-caliber semiautomatic pistol. 37 recovered. 3.9% of total.
4. Jimenez Arms J.A. Nine 9mm semiautomatic pistol. 32 recovered. 3.3% of total.
5. Iberia Firearms JCP40. 30 recovered. 3.1% of total.
6. Smith & Wesson SW9ve 9mm semiautomatic pistol. 29 recovered. 3.0% of total.
7. Hi-Point CF380 .38-caliber semiautomatic pistol. 27 recovered. 2.8% of total.
8. Haskell Hi-Point JHP 45 semiautomatic pistol. 26 recovered. 2.7% of total.
9. Cobra FS380 .38-caliber semiautomatic pistol. 20 recovered. 2.1% of total.
10. Mossberg 500A shotgun. 16 recovered. 1.7% of total.

9 of the top 10 of the guns used criminally in Chicago were compact handguns, the 10th was a cheap, pistol grip shotgun. Time to crime of one year or less and these ten models comprise almost one third of all guns recovered from the city’s crime scenes.

300 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 8:57:16pm

re: #295 blueraven

Yes, you ask for more than you think you will get and bargain for the best deal possible.

I think it’s smarter to go after the root of the problem. Let’s say there are enough votes for an assault weapons ban and it gets passed. The intentional homicide rate is at an historical, fifty year low point right now. So advocates of gun control will, having done nothing about the guns actually used in crime, have opened themselves up for attack when the rate inevitably goes up again.

The alternative is to try and do something that has a chance of driving the rate down in the long term, by addressing the actual problem instead of targeting cosmetics.

301 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 9:01:31pm

Muslims site:powerlineblog.com

Freaky.

302 freetoken  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 9:03:47pm

re: #301 Gus

linky no worky

303 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 9:04:02pm

re: #300 goddamnedfrank

I think it’s smarter to go after the root of the problem. Let’s say there are enough votes for an assault weapons ban and it gets passed. The intentional homicide rate is at an historical, fifty year low point right now. So advocates of gun control will, having done nothing about the guns actually used in crime, have opened themselves up for attack when the rate inevitably goes up again.

The alternative is to try and do something that has a chance of driving the rate down in the long term, by addressing the actual problem instead of targeting cosmetics.

Frank, Bravo! Your posts on this issue have been nothing short of masterful.

304 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 9:06:21pm

re: #302 freetoken

linky no worky

Works here.

305 jaunte  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 9:06:24pm

re: #301 Gus

“Sharia comes to Michigan”

[Link: www.pressandguide.com…]

Representing the plaintiffs is the Christian-interest law firm The Thomas More Law Center, which was founded by former Domino’s Pizza CEO Tom Monaghan. Co-counsel for the plaintiffs is Arizona-based attorney David Yerushalmi.

The roots of the complaint go back to the 2009 Arab Fest, when Acts 17 members were physically removed from the Warren Avenue street fair supposedly for harassing people and passing out religious literature, which is against festival regulations.

306 kirkspencer  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 9:14:18pm

re: #300 goddamnedfrank

I think it’s smarter to go after the root of the problem. Let’s say there are enough votes for an assault weapons ban and it gets passed. The intentional homicide rate is at an historical, fifty year low point right now. So advocates of gun control will, having done nothing about the guns actually used in crime, have opened themselves up for attack when the rate inevitably goes up again.

The alternative is to try and do something that has a chance of driving the rate down in the long term, by addressing the actual problem instead of targeting cosmetics.

fwiw, the nibble I want to seen done is to close the so-called loophole. As more than a few people have noted there are actually some decent restrictions, and the vast majority of dealers follow those restrictions.

Background checks don’t (usually) take very long, and if we can get most if not all the ~40% that evades them at present we might have a better idea of what works and doesn’t work.

‘course, the second thing I want is the one that’ll cause more screaming. I want law enforcement to have the tools to trace back, identify, and nail the dealers who are /not/ complying. I am absolutely certain it’s a small minority, but that doesn’t change the fact they’re a problem.

307 wrenchwench  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 9:26:29pm

re: #232 chadu

Self-reply.

Kombu does well with dark greens: spinach, mustard greens, and collard greens.

I think this week’s food experiment is seeing how it does with cabbage.

…

Now I have to come up with a cabbage-based recipe.

HURM.

This week’s mission is finding mail-order kombu.

308 austin_blue  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 9:30:14pm

re: #286 kirkspencer

Yeah, they’re fun. Let’s put it in simple reality. There is a difference between “not as much profit” and “loss”, though both count as an effect on the bottom line. I contend that if the AWB happens the result will be “not as much profit”. Further, I think that there will be a buffer period as the same people playing into the bubble purchase a number of “legal” guns in preparation for the soon-to-happen Obamapocalypse.

And I’m basing it on what happened to dealers back when the AWB passed the first time.

There will be some who go under - who will convince themselves that tulips - sorry, that ARs will go on forever. They’re idiots to match the customers who seem to think a bunch of ARs in the house will protect them from the government even more than having one.

Seems to me they’ll be making about the same money as they did before the Panic Buying began.

But the AWB isn’t going to be passed, so it’s moot. If we are lucky (as a society) we’ll get universal background checks and guaranteed prison time for possession of high-cap mags.

309 chadu  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 9:34:09pm

re: #257 William Barnett-Lewis

Recipe! Now! Please! :D

You simmer the barley, sauerkraut, and brown sugar for a little bit together. SIMMER! Not more than 15 minutes at simmer.

You cut up the kielbasa as you like (coins or half-barrels are fine; I like a mix of both.) It’s already cooked, you just need to draw the flavor out of it and warm it up.

Throw all of that into a casserole dish, add about a cup of beer (lager is best), cover and cook at 350 degrees for about 30, 45 minutes.

Make mashed potatoes per your preferred recipe.

Let everything rest about 5 minutes, then go to town. ;)

310 jaunte  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 9:35:36pm

re: #305 jaunte

“Sharia comes to Michigan”

[Link: www.pressandguide.com…]

A little more about that incident from the SPLC:

Muslims in Dearborn, Mich., were once again targeted for their beliefs on Friday when a group of protesters calling themselves the “Bible Believers” confronted celebrants at the city’s annual Arab International Festival with a pig’s head on a spike and signs decrying Islam as a false religion, the Detroit Free Press reports.

In addition to the pig’s head – presumably intended to offend observant Muslims, who do not eat pork – Bible Believers reportedly carried signs calling Islam “a religion of blood and murder” and describing the Islamic prophet Muhammad as a “liar,” “false prophet,” “murderer” and “child molesting pervert.”
[Link: www.splcenter.org…]

All of that provocation was carefully edited out of the “Bible Believers” own video.

311 chadu  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 9:36:16pm

re: #271 Dr Lizardo

It’s taqqiya, I tell you!!

Oh, wait…..

Tapioca?


MMMM, pudding.

312 chadu  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 9:38:40pm

re: #290 Tigger2005

Different strokes for different folks.

(Why, after an hour of sleep, am I back here?)

313 chadu  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 9:41:03pm

re: #295 blueraven

And how many of those guns do you reckon were purchased with no background check?

Look, I think everyone pretty much knows that the Assault Weapons Ban will not pass right now. But maybe the universal BG check will, and possibly a ban on the sale of high capacity magazines.

Yes, you ask for more than you think you will get and bargain for the best deal possible.

I think the universal BG check is a good gdmnd idea.

314 kirkspencer  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 9:41:07pm

re: #308 austin_blue

Seems to me they’ll be making about the same money as they did before the Panic Buying began.

But the AWB isn’t going to be passed, so it’s moot. If we are lucky (as a society) we’ll get universal background checks and guaranteed prison time for possession of high-cap mags.

No, they’ll probably make less. Frank is right that so-called automatic assault weapons, and in particular the AR-15s were a regular sales item. As I said there will be a short window where the difference would be hidden by other weapon purchases - but the eventual change would be some decline in total sales.

I’m not going go say “never” on the AWB. Here’s the thing - I can see a way it happens, but I don’t want that event to occur. So weirdly I hope it doesn’t pass even though I’m in favor of the bill. Make sense? thought not.

IF there is another mass killing of children, especially if ARs are involved, the AWB will happen. We came close just with this one. Similar events are what caused the shut-downs in England and Australia - the latter nation being almost as gun-friendly as the US. I don’t want to see another mass event involving children, and if that’s the only way for the AWB to pass I’ll live without it. (Personally I’d rather just see better control, and more comprehensive and effective control of handguns. Not bans, controls. But various people and industries are so wrapped up in this that it’ll take something major to move us. When it’s a major event moving us with our heartstrings, we make bad choices. So… AWB.)

315 chadu  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 9:43:09pm

re: #307 wrenchwench

Do you have an organic market nearby? They often have good stuff available.

I need to buy more kombu, tofu, and miso to make homemade miso soup!

316 wrenchwench  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 9:45:08pm

re: #315 chadu

Do you have an organic market nearby? They often have good stuff available.

I need to buy more kombu, tofu, and miso to make homemade miso soup!

The organic market was my best hope. Nope. They do have powdered kelp. Pfthblthfl.

317 wrenchwench  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 9:46:20pm
Mexican marines have freed 104 kidnapped Central American migrants who were being held in a house in the border city of Nuevo Laredo, authorities said Sunday.

A statement from the Secretary of the Marines said the 102 Hondurans and two Salvadorans, including 13 women, had been held captive for four days.

It said the rescue operation came after authorities received a tip that vehicles were seen arriving at the house in Tamaulipas state and armed men were then seen violently unloading people from them.

[…]

318 AlexRogan  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 9:48:19pm

re: #198 Dark_Falcon

Well, the M1911A1 is a good choice for home defense. I think that buying an AR-15 just to destroy it is a DERP myself, but its his money, so if he wants to spend it on a PR stunt then that’s his right.

What the Tucson PD does with the AR15 (if the dealer doesn’t go full-metal wingnut and voids Kelly’s sales contract, even with a clean background check and money in hand) is up to them, not Kelly or Giffords; there’s nothing that I’ve seen so far that says they wouldn’t be able to add it to their own armory and issue it to a SWAT officer or something.

319 chadu  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 9:53:11pm

re: #307 wrenchwench

Aha!

Kombu-enhanced Strapačky!

Need to find potatoes, sheep-cheese, bacon, and maybe Žinčica.

320 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 9:54:03pm

Don’t want to hurt the gun people’s feelings.

321 chadu  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 9:54:39pm

re: #316 wrenchwench

[Link: www.edenfoods.com…]

322 kirkspencer  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 9:56:38pm

re: #316 wrenchwench

The organic market was my best hope. Nope. They do have powdered kelp. Pfthblthfl.

Actually, I’d check with a good (or large) oriental market.

323 AlexRogan  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 9:59:41pm

re: #138 Vicious Babushka

DERP.

324 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 10:00:58pm

re: #323 AlexRogan

Oy. Yet another conservatard.

325 wrenchwench  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 10:02:43pm

Share of Homes With Guns Shows 4-Decade Decline

The share of American households with guns has declined over the past four decades, a national survey shows, with some of the most surprising drops in the South and the Western mountain states, where guns are deeply embedded in the culture.

[…]

“There are all these claims that gun ownership is going through the roof,” said Daniel Webster, the director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research. “But I suspect the increase in gun sales has been limited mostly to current gun owners. The most reputable surveys show a decline over time in the share of households with guns.”

[…]

Researchers offered different theories for these trends. […]

They don’t mention straw purchases as any part of the reason. I wonder whether they really are.

326 wrenchwench  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 10:03:53pm

re: #322 kirkspencer

Actually, I’d check with a good (or large) oriental market.

That would be at least 100 miles away. Mail-order.

327 AlexRogan  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 10:05:15pm

re: #324 Gus

Oy. Yet another conservatard.

One that doesn’t seem to understand that those “govt contracts” keep most, if not all, major companies in the gun business (gunmakers, ammo and accessory manufacturers, etc.) in business; there is no way that just LEOs and civilians could keep the industry afloat, as it currently is.

328 wrenchwench  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 10:05:45pm

re: #321 chadu

[Link: www.edenfoods.com…]

Oooh, thank you! I should check whether the local co-op market can special-order that.

329 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 10:07:36pm

re: #327 AlexRogan

One that doesn’t seem to understand that those “govt contracts” keep most, if not all, major companies in the gun business (gunmakers, ammo and accessory manufacturers, etc.) in business; there is no way that just LEOs and civilians could keep the industry afloat, as it currently is.

Gun manufacturers in the USA would gladly keep selling guns to foreign regimes that kills babies with those guns.

330 AlexRogan  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 10:09:53pm

re: #149 chadu

Mark Kelly is a fricking astronaut.

There are only 4, 5 dozen humans alive that can claim that, right?

Sheesh.

But, he and his (now-disabled, by a crazed gunman) wife are LIBRULS and are fair game for Real ‘Murricans to rip to shreds.

/I was I were kidding, but surely some ‘patriot’ has already derped this by now

331 kirkspencer  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 10:25:13pm

re: #327 AlexRogan

One that doesn’t seem to understand that those “govt contracts” keep most, if not all, major companies in the gun business (gunmakers, ammo makers, accessory makers, etc.) in business; there is no way that just LEOs and civilians could keep the industry afloat, as it currently is.

Actually, probably not. There were 19 million pre-sale background checks done in 2012. While some did not result in sales, remember that about 40% of sales are done without background checks. Call it 30 million gun sales in the US last year to civilians. That’s about 15 times as many weapons as there are soldiers in the US military today (counting reserves).

332 Shvaughn  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 1:55:45am

re: #299 goddamnedfrank

Or you could look at Chicago in 2010:

9 of the top 10 of the guns used criminally in Chicago were compact handguns, the 10th was a cheap, pistol grip shotgun. Time to crime of one year or less and these ten models comprise almost one third of all guns recovered from the city’s crime scenes.

I’m convinced, we should ban handguns too.

333 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 4:41:28am

re: #310 jaunte

A little more about that incident from the SPLC:

All of that provocation was carefully edited out of the “Bible Believers” own video.

If this same group had done the exactly same thing at an Israel event, Pammy, Bobby & the rest of their krew would be hoarse from screaming ANTI SEMITISM EEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!11111TY.

334 William of Orange  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 11:03:59am

I can’t see the comments in the Gateway pundit link. Does that mean I’m blocked??

If so, COOL!!!

Small message to Hoft:
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