A Surreal Masterpiece: Death to the Tinman

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Bill loves Jane, the pastor’s daughter. When Bill becomes a threat to the community, the pastor is forced to curse his ax. One of the most stylish & kinetic films of the true indie era. (Made by Court 13, the team behind Beasts of the Southern Wild)

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1 Gus  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 8:12:33pm

So tonight, Ralph Benko and Forbes rekindled the 1.6 billion bullets for DHS conspiracy theory again. Hadn’t realized that Prisonplanet was hosting the same page when I was making this. They’re also still spreading the DHS MRAP conspiracy. Congratulations Forbes.

2 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 8:18:23pm

re: #1 Gus

So tonight, Ralph Benko and Forbes rekindled the 1.6 billion bullets for DHS conspiracy theory again. Hadn’t realized that Prisonplanet was hosting the same page when I was making this. They’re also still spreading the DHS MRAP conspiracy. Congratulations Forbes.

The NRA can’t even kill this undead story. Blade’s in prison (and given Wesley Snipes’ Sovereign Citizens DERP, he’d probably believe Prison Planet on this), so we’ll need Van Helsing to kill it.

3 Gus  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 8:21:26pm

re: #2 Dark_Falcon

The NRA can’t even kill this undead story. Blade’s in prison (and given Wesley Snipes’ Sovereign Citizens DERP, he’d probably believe Prison Planet on this), so we’ll need Van Helsing to kill it.

Is there an NRA story with this?

4 kirkspencer  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 8:23:36pm

As I said in the previous thread, mulitple sources say we were using 1.7 Billion rounds a year in Iraq. Makes the front page lie a little obvious.

5 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 8:26:06pm

re: #3 Gus

Is there an NRA story with this?

Federal Law Enforcement Agencies Buy Ammunition

You may recently have seen some in the Internet rumor mill feverishly repeating the obvious truth above, in an effort to stir up fear about recent acquisitions of ammunition by the Department of Homeland Security and a number of smaller agencies. The mildest writers have questioned why seemingly mundane agencies would need ammunition at all; more incendiary authors suggest that these government agencies are preparing for a war with the American people.

Much of the concern stems from a lack of understanding of the law enforcement functions carried about by officers in small federal agencies. These agents have the power to make arrests and execute warrants, just like their better-known counterparts at agencies like the FBI.

For instance, the Social Security Administration solicited offers for 174,000 rounds of pistol ammunition. But the agency has 295 special agents who combat Social Security fraud that costs tax payers billions each year, so the order works out to roughly 590 rounds of ammunition per agent for training, mandatory quarterly qualification shooting and duty use. More than a few NRA members would use that much ammunition in a weekend shooting class or plinking session.

Another recent rumor questioned a request for 46,000 rounds of.40-caliber ammo by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. NOAA inadvertently fueled that speculation through a clerical error that suggested the ammunition was destined for the National Weather Service. NOAA later clarified that the ammunition was actually for the little known Fisheries Office of Law Enforcement, which enforces laws against illegal fishing and marine life importation. The ammunition is for 63 personnel, amounting to about 730 rounds per officer.

SNIP

Perhaps most strangely, some have cited the purchase of hollow-point ammunition as evidence of the federal government’s evil motives. Hollow-points are the defensive ammunition of choice for federal, state and local law enforcement officers across the country, just as they are for private citizens. These attacks are eerily similar to statements made by gun prohibitionists, who spent the much of the ’70s, ’80s and ’90s complaining about “dum dum” bullets. (In fact, the Violence Policy Center’s website still exhibits a publication lamenting that federal ammunition law “has no effect on today’s generation of high-tech hollow-point ammunition.”) The attacks also ignore the fact that federal agents, unlike average taxpayers on more limited budgets, normally train and qualify with their duty ammunition.

6 Gus  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 8:29:08pm

re: #5 Dark_Falcon

Federal Law Enforcement Agencies Buy Ammunition

SNIP

ATK Secures .40 Caliber Ammunition Contract with Department of Justice, Federal Bureau of Investigation

Dec 12, 2012

ARLINGTON, Va., Dec. 12, 2012 /PRNewswire/ — ATK (NYSE: ATK) announced that it is being awarded a Fixed Price Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ) agreement from the Department of Justice (DOJ) and Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) for .40 caliber ammunition. This contract to provide duty and training ammunition features a base of 12 months, includes four option years and has a maximum value of $75 million over the life of the contract.

Speer’s Gold Dot Duty ammunition is known for excellent weight retention, reliable feeding and exceptional terminal performance. Speer also offers standard training ammunition and a reduced hazard option (RHT). The Speer RHT round features a frangible projectile that dissipates on contact and is ideal for training indoors and in close quarters.

“We understand and appreciate our customers’ needs for highly-specialized duty and training ammunition,” said Ron Johnson, President of ATK’s Sporting Group. “Superior performance, accuracy and reliability are the reasons why Gold Dot remains the most trusted pistol ammunition for law enforcement agencies and departments worldwide. It has been the industry leader for almost two decades because of its toughness and ability to perform when it matters most. We are extremely pleased that our products will be used by these leading agencies directly responsible for protecting and keeping us safe.”

ATK will produce the ammunition at the Speer facility in Lewiston, Idaho. Deliveries are expected to begin this month.

7 Gus  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 8:31:23pm

And!

ATK Secures .40 Caliber Ammunition Contract with Department of Homeland Security, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (DHS, ICE)

March 12, 2012

ANOKA, Minn., March 12, 2012 /PRNewswire/ – ATK (NYSE: ATK) announced that it is being awarded an Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ) agreement from the Department of Homeland Security, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (DHS, ICE) for .40 caliber ammunition. This contract features a base of 12 months, includes four option years, and will have a maximum volume of 450 million rounds.

ATK was the incumbent and won the contract with its HST bullet, which has proven itself in the field. The special hollow point effectively passes through a variety of barriers and holds its jacket in the toughest conditions. HST is engineered for 100-percent weight retention, limits collateral damage, and avoids over-penetration.

“We are proud to extend our track record as the prime supplier of .40 caliber duty ammunition for DHS, ICE,” said Ron Johnson, President of ATK’s Security and Sporting group. “The HST is a proven design that will continue to serve those who keep our borders safe.”

ATK will produce the ammunition at the Federal Cartridge Company facility in Anoka, Minn. Deliveries are expected to begin in June.

8 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 8:32:12pm

re: #6 Gus

ATK Secures .40 Caliber Ammunition Contract with Department of Justice, Federal Bureau of Investigation

What won’t be heard: A call to boycott Speer. Because this whole thing is just bullshit anyways.

10 Gus  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 8:32:41pm

ATK Awarded Five-Year FBI Ammunition Contract Valued at $95 Million

November 3, 2010

MINNEAPOLIS, Nov. 3, 2010 /PRNewswire/ — ATK (NYSE: ATK) announced today that it has received a contract from the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) for 5.56 caliber duty and training ammunition. The contract is a five-year, Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ) agreement with a maximum value of $95 million. ATK will produce the mission-specific ammunition at its facility in Anoka, Minnesota.

ATK used its core capability of ammunition technology development to create a customized solution to meet the needs of the FBI. The duty load is based on Federal Premium’s 62-grain Tactical Bonded projectile, which excels at barrier penetration, while the training ammunition features 55-grain and 50-grain bullet options ideal for the needs of the Bureau. Production of the duty round was tailored to the specifications of the FBI and is already underway. Deliveries are expected to begin by the end of 2010.

“This contract is the result of a focused effort to expand our business in an important strategic market,” said Ron Johnson, President of ATK’s Security and Sporting group. “Our core ammunition technology provides the ideal platform for meeting this important customer need.”

11 Gus  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 8:36:26pm

re: #8 Dark_Falcon

What won’t be heard: A call to boycott Speer. Because this whole thing is just bullshit anyways.

You know what the 1.6 billion is? It’s just like has been said over and over again. This is just the Feds buying massive amounts of ammo.

In fiscal 2012, the Company produced approximately 1.5 billion rounds of small-caliber ammunition in the facility.
— ATK 2012 Annual Report to Stockholders (PDF)

12 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 8:41:27pm

re: #11 Gus

You know what the 1.6 billion is? It’s just like has been said over and over again. This is just the Feds buying massive amounts of ammo.

In fiscal 2012, the Company produced approximately 1.5 billion rounds of small-caliber ammunition in the facility.
— ATK 2012 Annual Report to Stockholders (PDF)

And ATK also makes those types of ammo mentioned in the press releases you posted available for private sale. So civilians who want that sort of ammo can buy it. Which again, proves the entire meme bullshit.

13 Shvaughn  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 8:41:28pm
14 Gus  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 8:43:36pm

re: #12 Dark_Falcon

And ATK also makes those types of ammo mentioned in the press releases you posted available for private sale. So civilians who want that sort of ammo can buy it. Which again, proves the entire meme bullshit.

Yeah, it’s all nuttery.

ATK…

Our major law enforcement customers include large metropolitan police departments, the Department of Homeland Security, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and the U.S. Secret Service. Major customers of our security and sporting business include retailers such as Walmart, Cabela’s, and Gander Mountain, as well as large wholesale distributors. Major commercial aerospace customers include Airbus S.A.S., Rolls-Royce Group plc, and General Electric Company.

15 HoosierHoops  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 8:45:01pm

Programming note…
Maddow is on Leno tonight..Set your DVR’s

16 freetoken  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 8:45:14pm

File this one under mashed-up-memes:

Anthropology Mocked as U.S. Governors Push for Employable Grads

First, we have the know-nothing Republicans and their war against knowledge.

Then, the Bloomberg writer conflates the much more general issue of “performance” of educational establishments versus employment upon graduation, and the above anti-knowledge movement.

Finally, we have the widely held fascination with finding just the magical major that will bring in the highest income, which embodies numerous wrong-thinking favorites.

17 Shvaughn  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 8:47:33pm

New York Times, 2 Feb 2013: Why Police Officers Lie Under Oath

The New York City Police Department is not exempt from this critique. In 2011, hundreds of drug cases were dismissed after several police officers were accused of mishandling evidence. That year, Justice Gustin L. Reichbach of the State Supreme Court in Brooklyn condemned a widespread culture of lying and corruption in the department’s drug enforcement units. “I thought I was not naïve,” he said when announcing a guilty verdict involving a police detective who had planted crack cocaine on a pair of suspects. “But even this court was shocked, not only by the seeming pervasive scope of misconduct but even more distressingly by the seeming casualness by which such conduct is employed.”

Remarkably, New York City officers have been found to engage in patterns of deceit in cases involving charges as minor as trespass. In September it was reported that the Bronx district attorney’s office was so alarmed by police lying that it decided to stop prosecuting people who were stopped and arrested for trespassing at public housing projects, unless prosecutors first interviewed the arresting officer to ensure the arrest was actually warranted. Jeannette Rucker, the chief of arraignments for the Bronx district attorney, explained in a letter that it had become apparent that the police were arresting people even when there was convincing evidence that they were innocent. To justify the arrests, Ms. Rucker claimed, police officers provided false written statements, and in depositions, the arresting officers gave false testimony.

Mr. Keane, in his Chronicle article, offered two major reasons the police lie so much. First, because they can. Police officers “know that in a swearing match between a drug defendant and a police officer, the judge always rules in favor of the officer.” At worst, the case will be dismissed, but the officer is free to continue business as usual. Second, criminal defendants are typically poor and uneducated, often belong to a racial minority, and often have a criminal record. “Police know that no one cares about these people,” Mr. Keane explained.

All true, but there is more to the story than that.

Police departments have been rewarded in recent years for the sheer numbers of stops, searches and arrests. In the war on drugs, federal grant programs like the Edward Byrne Memorial Justice Assistance Grant Program have encouraged state and local law enforcement agencies to boost drug arrests in order to compete for millions of dollars in funding. Agencies receive cash rewards for arresting high numbers of people for drug offenses, no matter how minor the offenses or how weak the evidence. Law enforcement has increasingly become a numbers game. And as it has, police officers’ tendency to regard procedural rules as optional and to lie and distort the facts has grown as well. Numerous scandals involving police officers lying or planting drugs — in Tulia, Tex. and Oakland, Calif., for example — have been linked to federally funded drug task forces eager to keep the cash rolling in.

Piece by Michelle Alexander, author of The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness

18 Gus  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 8:50:04pm

re: #11 Gus

You know what the 1.6 billion is? It’s just like has been said over and over again. This is just the Feds buying massive amounts of ammo.

In fiscal 2012, the Company produced approximately 1.5 billion rounds of small-caliber ammunition in the facility.
— ATK 2012 Annual Report to Stockholders (PDF)

The DHS contract is for 450 million rounds. That’s already a third of the way to the 1.6 billion rounds. I’m sure if you add other agencies like FBI it’s easy to get to that 1.6 billion rounds that some prepper probably saw in some other prepper’s blog.

19 freetoken  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 8:50:24pm

America - land of apple pie, Chevy, and … guns:

Chicago dad, baby are shot as he changes her diaper

20 freetoken  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 8:52:36pm

Republicans - still not understanding the US Constitution:

Idaho lawmakers pass challenge to federal gun control proposals

The Idaho House of Representatives on Monday approved a largely symbolic measure that would make it a crime for state and local police to enforce new federal firearms restrictions, in a show of defiance against gun control proposals from the Obama administration.

The measure cleared the Republican-controlled House by a 55-13 vote and now heads to the state Senate.

Under the bill, state or local officials who help enforce any new federal gun limits could face up to a year in prison and a maximum fine of $1,000. The legislative gambit represents the latest effort by lawmakers in certain states, mostly in the West and South, to undercut new federal gun restrictions even before they might become part of U.S. law.

State Representative Mark Patterson, a Republican and the author of the Idaho bill, said his state’s residents were sure to welcome the legislation because it prevents police from “kicking in their front doors to take their firearms.”

[…]

21 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 8:53:30pm

re: #17 Shvaughn

Again I note that the NYT has had an ax to grind against the NYPD ever since Guliani implemented his reforms.

22 Shvaughn  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 8:55:08pm

re: #21 Dark_Falcon

Again I note that the NYT has had an ax to grind against the NYPD ever since Guliani implemented his reforms.

Do you dispute Ms. Alexander’s facts? This isn’t so much about the NY Times as it is about what she wrote. (The Times runs plenty of opinion pieces they disagree with.)

So what’s your proof that Alexander is inaccurate?

23 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 8:56:38pm

re: #16 freetoken

File this one under mashed-up-memes:

Anthropology Mocked as U.S. Governors Push for Employable Grads

First, we have the know-nothing Republicans and their war against knowledge.

Then, the Bloomberg writer conflates the much more general issue of “performance” of educational establishments versus employment upon graduation, and the above anti-knowledge movement.

Finally, we have the widely held fascination with finding just the magical major that will bring in the highest income, which embodies numerous wrong-thinking favorites.

My neighbor was complaining today about how they had to spend $1200 a month to send their kids to private school in the 1st and 2nd grade, because if they attended the free highly rated public school around the corner, they might learn about gay people or evolution.

My sympathy, it seems to be missing.

24 freetoken  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 9:02:34pm

This headline would have more impact if there was someone playing the Hammond B5 in the background:

Fukushima: They Knew

25 dragonath  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 9:10:50pm

re: #24 freetoken

Whoa, that was totally melodramatic and deliciously seedy. And those Hugo Chavez ads are like… Destrovision.

26 freetoken  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 9:10:51pm

Yet another GOP circular firing squad - this one down in SC:


Guest column: Don’t lose the right to vote in GOP primaries

[…]

The ballot box is what separates our nation from so many others. Voting is the cornerstone of our republic, which is why generations of American men and women have fought and died for it.

[…]

But we dare not call it a “democracy”, eh?

27 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 9:14:53pm

re: #24 freetoken

This headline would have more impact if there was someone playing the Hammond B5 in the background:

Fukushima: They Knew

28 freetoken  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 9:15:27pm

Because a less sensational verb wouldn’t be as sexy:


Russian scientists recant on new DNA in Lake Vostok

29 dragonath  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 9:18:05pm

re: #27 Single-handed sailor

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Raise you a Korla Pandit.

30 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 9:18:17pm

Good Night, All.

31 freetoken  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 9:19:38pm

re: #27 Single-handed sailor

Ethel!! Ethel Smith was always my favorite. Her best known performance (of that same song) was in the Disney animation short that gets played decade after decade.

Her “Latin” organ recordings strike me as being simultaneously the highs and lows of post WWII American pop schmaltz and artificial lilly-white “hipness”.

32 dragonath  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 9:22:08pm
33 Gus  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 9:25:04pm

You are what’s inside your brain.

34 freetoken  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 9:25:16pm

Korla Pandit and Ethel Smith in one thread… probably will cause a slight perturbation in the universe’s wave function.

35 freetoken  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 9:25:38pm

re: #33 Gus

You are what’s inside your brain.

The fungus under my big toe doesn’t count?

36 Gus  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 9:28:38pm
37 Gus  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 9:34:25pm

I think part of the problem with police PR is that we see these acts by cops out in the open. We see recruiting videos like this. Cops, while they still need to be treated more harshly when they do wrong, are public. The problem is that people seem to forget whom they’re dealing with. They’re dealing with some of the most violent members of society on a daily basis. They’re dealing people that would stab you to death for 20 bucks. Murderers. Rapists. Serial killers. Sure, they’re bad ass and scary. But they’re dealing with bad ass scary people.

38 Shvaughn  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 9:43:38pm

re: #37 Gus

I don’t disagree with that, but I do worry that sometimes the cops themselves are bad ass scary people themselves. Then I don’t feel safe at all.

If I weren’t a pale as heck white lady I might feel even less safe from the police.

39 Gus  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 9:46:23pm

re: #38 Shvaughn

I don’t disagree with that, but I do worry that sometimes the cops themselves are bad ass scary people themselves. Then I don’t feel safe at all.

If I weren’t a pale as heck white lady I might feel even less safe from the police.

I’m typically shaking like a leaf when I encounter cops. It’s been ages. Except for that one time I was in back seat of a park police screaming my bloody head off with and and ounce of weed in my underwear. Boy was I livid. He finally let us go. His last words were, “and you’re lucky I didn’t search you.” Ha! That was back in the day when cops had shag hair styles and porn staches.

40 Gus  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 9:53:48pm

Looks like now they’ve introduced the stereotypical “someone in Unite Blue is a pedophile” conspiracy into the mix. Yawn.

41 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 10:33:19pm

New Storm in Egypt Over Citizen Arrests

An official statement encouraging Egyptian civilians to arrest lawbreakers and hand them over to police has set off a new political storm in a country already mired in crisis.

A senior leader of a hard-line Islamist faction loyal to President Mohammed Morsi said his group was preparing lists of volunteers ready to take over police duties if needed.

The main opposition coalition saw the statement on citizen arrests by the attorney general’s office as a prelude to the substitution of the police by militias belonging to Morsi’s powerful Muslim Brotherhood group and allied Islamist groups who swept to power after Egypt’s uprising two years ago.

“It is now clear why the regime insists on pitting the police against the people and relying on security measures to tackle problems that need social, economic and political solutions,” the opposition National Salvation Front said in a statement on Monday.

42 Gus  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 11:06:33pm
43 Gus  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 11:18:00pm

USS John C. Stennis (CVN 74)

Published on Mar 10, 2013

Courtesy Video Defense Imagery Management Operations Center
Produced by MC2. Armando Gonzales.

The Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS John C. Stennis (CVN 74) entertains distinguished visitors to include Peyton Manning of the Denver Broncos with flight operations and a fly-by that breaks the sound barrier (signaled with flares). The video was shot from guided-missile cruiser USS Mobile Bay (CG 53) in restricted maneuvering about 500 yards from John C. Stennis’ port side.

44 dragonath  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 11:22:19pm

Joe Lieberman Joining Conservative Think Tank

Lieberman was never too far from the conservative establishment, even from the beginning. Buckley endorsed him against a moderate Republican in 1988.

45 Gus  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 11:26:19pm

re: #44 dragonath

AEI

Lieberman is why I stayed home in 2000. That and that asshole Al Gore.

46 Gus  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 11:26:34pm
47 Gus  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 11:34:32pm

Snowing again. It’s nice to watch the snow fall.

48 Gus  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 11:35:37pm
49 dragonath  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 11:38:50pm

re: #45 Gus

AEI

Lieberman is why I stayed home in 2000. That and that asshole Al Gore.

In a sane world, it would have been Bradley vs. McCain in 2000…

50 Gus  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 11:43:16pm
51 Gus  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 11:51:55pm
53 freetoken  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:29:23am

re: #47 Gus

Snowing again. It’s nice to watch the snow fall.

54 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:04:26am

Mark Kelly Brushes Off Breitbart Report: Who?

On Friday, Kelly revealed on his Facebook page that he bought a used AR-15 at a Tucson, Ariz. gun store in an effort to illustrate the uninvasive nature of background checks. In the post, which included a picture of Kelly filling out a background check form, he said that he intended to submit the weapon to the Tucson police department. A story published Saturday by Breitbart suggested that the Facebook post appeared days after Kelly made the purchase. According to the report, Breitbart received a tip from pro-gun activist Neil McCabe regarding the purchase and was on the verge of breaking the news when Kelly’s Facebook post “suddenly” surfaced.

Appearing on CNN Monday, Kelly sought to rebut those claims while indicating that he’s not all that familiar with the conservative online empire, founded by the late right-wing firebrand Andrew Breitbart.

“Well, I don’t know anything about who Breitbart is or anything about his website,” Kelly told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer. The leading gun control advocate then insisted that the purchase of the AR-15 and the timing of the subsequent Facebook post was all part of a plan.

“We had a plan to go in there to buy a .45 and if we had the opportunity to buy an AR-15 as well,” Kelly said. “And you know, I don’t know the timing but we had a plan on when we were going to announce that on Facebook.”

55 freetoken  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:05:08am
56 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:22:47am

re: #54 Kragar (Antichrist )

Mark Kelly Brushes Off Breitbart Report: Who?

Really at this point, it looks like in the year since Andy expired, his little “empire” has been in decline. None of the major “stories” they’ve taken up have gone anywhere or accomplished anything, and without their figurehead to work the media circuit, they’re becoming even more of a laughing stock amongst real reporters.

Won’t be surprised if, come the second anniversary of his demise, Breitbart.com is either gone or devolved into another Prison Planet.

57 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:33:08am

3-D Gun printing advocate: “They’re real and they’re not going anywhere”

Who needs background checks when you can create your own arsenal at home?
Oh and the guy has already printed an AR-15.

58 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:38:09am

re: #57 Eclectic Cyborg

3-D Gun printing advocate: “They’re real and they’re not going anywhere”

Who needs background checks when you can create your own arsenal at home?
Oh and the guy has already printed an AR-15.

I keep wondering how long it’ll be before the government tries to limit or even ban domestic 3d printing. After all, with the advances in just recent years, plus ones projected in the near term, it won’t be long before such tech starts eating into the profits of major corporations. When that happens, you can bet they’ll be on Capital Hill, squealing about patents, copyrights, and demanding something be done to kill the cottage industries before they slay the giants.

59 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:16:14am

re: #45 Gus

AEI

Lieberman is why I stayed home in 2000. That and that asshole Al Gore.

I will up and admit, he was one reason that I voted for Bush. The other was Tipper Gore. I regretted it the moment I cast my vote, but I just could not bring myself to vote for Gore, nor was I about to just cast a “protest” vote.

60 freetoken  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:42:51am
61 freetoken  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:15:12am

Dan Brown territory:

THE OATH SWORN BY CARDINALS BEFORE PAPAL VOTE

Before cardinals start voting for a new pope, they will swear an oath of secrecy in the Sistine Chapel. It will be administered by Cardinal Giovanni Battista Re, the conclave’s presiding cardinal. After he reads it, each cardinal elector will touch the Holy Gospels and “promise, pledge and swear” to uphold the oath.

Here’s the full text of the oath:

“We, the Cardinal electors present in this election of the Supreme Pontiff promise, pledge and swear, as individuals and as a group, to observe faithfully and scrupulously the prescriptions contained in the Apostolic Constitution of the Supreme Pontiff John Paul II, Universi Dominici Gregis, published on 22 February 1996.

We likewise promise, pledge and swear that whichever of us by divine disposition is elected Roman Pontiff will commit himself faithfully to carrying out the munus Petrinum of Pastor of the Universal Church and will not fail to affirm and defend strenuously the spiritual and temporal rights and the liberty of the Holy See.

In a particular way, we promise and swear to observe with the greatest fidelity and with all persons, clerical or lay, secrecy regarding everything that in any way relates to the election of the Roman Pontiff and regarding what occurs in the place of the election, directly or indirectly related to the results of the voting; we promise and swear not to break this secret in any way, either during or after the election of the new Pontiff, unless explicit authorization is granted by the same Pontiff; and never to lend support or favor to any interference, opposition or any other form of intervention, whereby secular authorities of whatever order and degree or any group of people or individuals might wish to intervene in the election of the Roman Pontiff.”

62 freetoken  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:23:01am

Fascinating….

The Congressman, the Safari King, and the Woman Who Tried to Look Like a Cat

IN AUGUST 2012, as most members of Congress were hitting the campaign trail, three Republican lawmakers were enjoying an all-expenses-paid retreat at Ol Jogi, a private 66,000-acre ranch in Kenya’s lush highlands. This “African Versailles” features a golf course, racetrack, dozens of man-made lakes, around 120 miles of road, more than 200 major buildings, and some 350 employees. The representatives—including Alabama’s Jo Bonner, then the chairman of the House ethics committee—were ostensibly there to learn about threats to the ranch’s idyllic landscapes and herds of wild animals, which were made famous in the Oscar-winning 1985 film Out of Africa.

Ol Jogi is owned by a trust benefiting the Wildenstein family, a secretive, embattled Franco-American aristocratic line; the clan has been accused of buying art looted by the Nazis, among other misdeeds. Over five generations, the Wildensteins have amassed a fortune estimated to be worth as much as $10 billion by dealing art, breeding horses, and—according to French authorities—evading a reported $800 million in taxes. One family member received a multimillion-dollar mansion for her 17th birthday; another has spent millions on plastic surgery to make herself look more like a cat. Since 1990, the Wildensteins and a family firm have given nearly $150,000 to Republican candidates and campaign committees.

Given the family’s history of support for the party, it’s no surprise that Bonner, along with top GOP fundraiser Rep. Diane Black (R-Tenn.) and Rep. Kay Granger (R-Texas), chose to overlook their hosts’ legal difficulties and visit the site of Meryl Streep and Robert Redford’s African love affair. What’s more intriguing is who paid for the 10-day, $47,000 adventure for the legislators (as well as Bonner’s and Black’s spouses and Granger’s son): the International Conservation Caucus Foundation, a mysterious charity based out of a two-story townhouse in the posh Georgetown neighborhood of Washington, DC.

[…]

… and scary.

63 freetoken  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:34:46am

MJ dumped several stories over the transom this morning that should get any good liberal’s blood boiling, such as this one:

The White House Is for Sale Under Barack Obama, Too

64 freetoken  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:52:23am

And finally, because this is America…

Ken Ham has competition:

The Ark Grand Opening

I’ll just note that Cornerstone Church is John Hagee’s business church, the same Hagee with whom John McCain has had a long, complex relationship.

65 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:18:08am

re: #61 freetoken

Dan Brown territory:

THE OATH SWORN BY CARDINALS BEFORE PAPAL VOTE

Every pirate votes for hisself.

66 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:42:02am

Dim Jim’s Latest Spin on Mark Kelly AR-15 OUTRAGEOUS OUTRAGE:

68 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:03:26am

Well, if the editorial Ryan put out in the WSJ today is any indication, today should be a laugh riot. Time to watch the GOP wriggle and squirm as they try to sell folks on gutting the budget in order to balance it far sooner than any level-headed economist thinks we can:

Paul Ryan: The GOP Plan to Balance the Budget by 2023

Krugman’s gonna have a field-day with this one.

69 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:34:45am

Wingnuts are gloating over the apocalyptic hellscape of Detroit, where everybody is on food stamps & welfare and NOBODY has a job, except for me and hundreds of my co-workers in this building, and all the workers in the other buildings in this tech park, and all the other tech parks on this campus, and all the other workers for the other auto companies and all the workers for the auto suppliers and all the workers for all the other industries.

Except for them, nobody has a jrrb.

70 freetoken  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:37:12am

re: #69 Vicious Babushka

Shhh… you’ll disturb their moment.

71 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:37:49am

re: #69 Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts are gloating over the apocalyptic hellscape of Detroit, where everybody is on food stamps & welfare and NOBODY has a job, except for me and hundreds of my co-workers in this building, and all the workers in the other buildings in this tech park, and all the other tech parks on this campus, and all the other workers for the other auto companies and all the workers for the auto suppliers and all the workers for all the other industries.

Except for them, nobody has a jrrb.

Had it been up to Mitt Romney, none of them would be on the jrrb right now, either.

72 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:40:39am

re: #71 Sol Berdinowitz

Had it been up to Mitt Romney, none of them would be on the jrrb right now, either.

If it would be up to Mitt Romney, Detroit would really be the apocalyptic hellscape that the wingnuts so desperately want it to be.

The Bridge Troll is responsible for some of the most spectacular ruins in Detroit.

73 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:41:31am

re: #67 Vicious Babushka

DERP.

Ahmadinejad in hot water with the mullahs after giving Chavez’ mom a hug.

Sigh. I’d expect Chavez’s mom to mourn her child & is the one person I’d give a pass to dinner jacket for comforting. Doesn’t make him any better a person but still.

74 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:43:51am

re: #72 Vicious Babushka

If it would be up to Mitt Romney, Detroit would really be the apocalyptic hellscape that the wingnuts so desperately want it to be.

The Bridge Troll is responsible for some of the most spectacular ruins in Detroit.

Did you see that Wonkette picked up your AskFLOTUS thread?

[Link: wonkette.com…]

75 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:44:18am

re: #73 William Barnett-Lewis

Sigh. I’d expect Chavez’s mom to mourn her child & is the one person I’d give a pass to dinner jacket for comforting. Doesn’t make him any better a person but still.

If I was a grieving relative who had just lost a loved one I would pass on the hug from Dinnerjacket. Can’t imagine what circumstances he would even show up at a funeral of someone that I know, but Zedushka has some distant cousins who are in Neturei Karta so it’s not totally out of the question.//

76 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:44:18am

re: #73 William Barnett-Lewis

Sigh. I’d expect Chavez’s mom to mourn her child & is the one person I’d give a pass to dinner jacket for comforting. Doesn’t make him any better a person but still.

That’s because you lack the spiritual purity of a mullah. Focused like a laser on morals, morals and morals.

77 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:46:27am

re: #76 Sol Berdinowitz

That’s because you lack the spiritual purity of a mullah. Focused like a laser on morals, morals and morals.

Who has more spiritual purity, Bryan Fischer or the mullahs?

78 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:47:29am

re: #77 Vicious Babushka

Who has more spiritual purity, Bryan Fischer or the mullahs?

I would like to toss them all in a cesspit and see which one crawls out first…

79 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:51:23am

South Park new season not starting until September, and will only be 10 episodes instead of 14.

I haz a sad. :(

80 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 6:05:42am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. It’s rather soggy today, which is rather appropriate considering the events from last night in Brooklyn. While there were reports of a riot along Nostrand Avenue and Synder Avenue, the facts indicate something a little different.

Events started with a peaceful protest. Among those leading the protesters was NYC Councilman Charles Barron. After the group approached the 67th Precinct, some bottles and rocks were thrown as the crowd dispersed.

The crowd of about 20 teens and other residents gathered at Nostrand and Synder avenues, outside the 67th Precinct station, 1010 WINS’ Sonia Rincon reported. Some people screamed, and rocks and bottles were thrown, all in protest of the police-involved shooting Saturday of 16-year-old Kimani Gray.

The crowd then headed toward the scene of the shooting, in front of a home on East 52nd Street, in East Flatbush, Rincon reported.

During the march, crowd members rushed into a Rite Aid at Albany and Church avenues around 9:20 p.m. In the melee a store worker suffered a gash to the head, police confirmed to CBS 2 and 1010. The worker was taken to a nearby hospital and is expected to recover, police said.

Once the crowd arrived at the scene of the shooting, emotions remained tense, 1010 WINS reported. However, City Councilman Jumaane Williams (D-45th) and Gray’s sister appealed for calm, and the crowd complied.

Some group members laid flowers at the scene, and eventually everyone went their separate ways.

WCBS 880 reported that by 9:50 p.m., the situation had calmed down and that there were no initial reports of arrests or injuries. Police told WCBS 880 the melee was a “disorderly gathering of people” rather than a riot.

As I indicated last night, this was something less than a riot, but more than just a peaceful protest. The Daily News, on the other hand, treats this as “the end of the world” on their website and touting the event in the worst possible terms. It’s the lede for the Daily News.

The Daily News also indicates that police sources provided video clips allegedly showing that Gray was a member of the Bloods and involved in altercations with Crips.

Interestingly, the Post downplays the protest/altercations/rioting, and instead focuses on the events in the Rite Aid with a photo showing the store’s front end with merchandise strewn all over the place. The Post indicates that a splinter group peeled off the main peaceful demonstration group to wreak havoc in the store, among other disorderly conduct.

At about 9 p.m., a splinter group broke off from the main ceremony and ran wild, causing havoc in several stores, including a Rite Aid.

“They poured in here, like 40 or 50 of them. They pulled the registers off the counter. They flipped over everything. They punched me in the face, several of them did, not just one. It was insane,” said Lorenzo Evans, 56, manager of the Rite Aid.

Evans also said a guard and two customers were roughed.

The gang also destroyed a bodega, ripped up trash bags, threw fruit and bottles at police officers and even pummeled residents.

They destroyed a CD-DVD store on Church Street.

“They damaged my store,” said Mamadou Bah, 31, owner of Hallmark African Movies.

“They knocked on my door, broke the glass, and ran in. They were throwing the DVDs around.”

81 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 6:17:17am

re: #80 lawhawk

Persons are smart. People are idiots. (sigh)

82 Lidane  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 6:19:00am

Residents of Byron, Maine, reject bid to force people to own guns

After a brief discussion, residents elected to skip debate and vote. Not even Bruce Simmons, the resident who originally came up with the proposal, voted to support it.

Backers said the point of the measure, which was considered unenforceable, was to send a message to state and federal lawmakers trying to pass gun control laws.

“I feel we accomplished what we set out to do and I hope we will wake this town up,” Simmons said. “We made a statement to the federal government that they can’t take our guns away.”

OK, I’m confused. How the hell does it send a message to anyone to propose an unenforcable bill then have it unanimously voted down?

I’m not well-versed in gun nut logic. Anyone want to parse this for me?

83 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 6:20:49am

WTF!!

84 Lidane  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 6:21:53am
85 Lidane  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 6:22:25am

re: #83 Vicious Babushka

Wow. That’s some weapons-grade stupid right there.

86 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 6:22:48am

re: #84 Lidane

How does guzzling a bunch of sugary soft drinks prove that you love liberty more than you love diabetes?

87 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 6:25:24am

re: #84 Lidane

88 Lidane  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 6:26:28am

re: #86 Vicious Babushka

How does guzzling a bunch of sugary soft drinks prove that you love liberty more than you love diabetes?

As Patrick Henry put it, “Give me a Big Gulp or give me death!”

Why do you hate America?

///

89 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 6:27:54am

re: #86 Vicious Babushka

How does guzzling a bunch of sugary soft drinks prove that you love liberty more than you love diabetes?

“Choice,” that elusive creature that is a-okay if you want to stuff your arteries with cholesterol, your gut with high-fructose corn syrup, or your lungs with carcinogens, but God help us all if a woman is allowed to choose to end a pregnancy.

90 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 6:30:07am

The soda ban was enjoined yesterday by the judge (who mrs. lawhawk has appeared before in the past and gives careful consideration to his decisions in her opinion) because it arbitrarily sets beverages that are banned from those that aren’t - not because of caloric intake or nutritional value, but by who sells. A 7-11 could sell Big Gulps, but a restaurant next door would be prohibited from selling beverage of same size.

Milk and juice products, including stuff sold at places like Starbucks could have twice the calories as the sodas being banned from sale in the same premises. It creates all kinds of enforcement issues, which is why the injunction was issued.

The judge by issuing the injunction also would seem to lay out a path to getting a ban lawfully enacted - namely get the City Council to approve and to ban all beverages sold in cups over 16 ounces instead of selective bans on specific product.

91 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 6:31:19am
92 Lidane  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 6:32:05am

Hurr durr…

93 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 6:32:42am

re: #90 lawhawk

The soda ban was enjoined yesterday by the judge (who mrs. lawhawk has appeared before in the past and gives careful consideration to his decisions in her opinion) because it arbitrarily sets beverages that are banned from those that aren’t - not because of caloric intake or nutritional value, but by who sells. A 7-11 could sell Big Gulps, but a restaurant next door would be prohibited from selling beverage of same size.

Milk and juice products, including stuff sold at places like Starbucks could have twice the calories as the sodas being banned from sale in the same premises. It creates all kinds of enforcement issues, which is why the injunction was issued.

The judge by issuing the injunction also would seem to lay out a path to getting a ban lawfully enacted - namely get the City Council to approve and to ban all beverages sold in cups over 16 ounces instead of selective bans on specific product.

True, but it also rather nicely demonstrates that futility of this particular crusade, namely that this ban got through only because the City Council wasn’t involved. With them involved, the odds of a ban becoming enacted are already slim. When you plug up all those holes, it’ll become virtually impossible.

94 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 6:34:33am

re: #92 Lidane

Hurr durr…

TheWorldMadeSense before social media let America’s untamed id run free.

95 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 6:35:58am

re: #90 lawhawk

The soda ban was enjoined yesterday by the judge (who mrs. lawhawk has appeared before in the past and gives careful consideration to his decisions in her opinion) because it arbitrarily sets beverages that are banned from those that aren’t - not because of caloric intake or nutritional value, but by who sells. A 7-11 could sell Big Gulps, but a restaurant next door would be prohibited from selling beverage of same size.

Milk and juice products, including stuff sold at places like Starbucks could have twice the calories as the sodas being banned from sale in the same premises. It creates all kinds of enforcement issues, which is why the injunction was issued.

The judge by issuing the injunction also would seem to lay out a path to getting a ban lawfully enacted - namely get the City Council to approve and to ban all beverages sold in cups over 16 ounces instead of selective bans on specific product.

So they’re going to ban high capacity cups.

Wenchwrench needs to stock up on high capacity water bottles for bikes. They’re next since Big Gulp fanatics will be buying them in order to have self-filling cup capacity.
/ (sorta)

96 iossarian  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 6:36:42am

re: #93 Targetpractice

True, but it also rather nicely demonstrates that futility of this particular crusade, namely that this ban got through only because the City Council wasn’t involved. With them involved, the odds of a ban becoming enacted are already slim. When you plug up all those holes, it’ll become virtually impossible.

The arc of history is long, but it bends towards sophisticated cafe-bars selling citron presse in frosted glasses.

97 iossarian  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 6:38:09am

I lurve me some citron presse. Mm hm.

98 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 6:42:40am

re: #17 Shvaughn

New York Times, 2 Feb 2013: Why Police Officers Lie Under Oath

[snip]

Police departments have been rewarded in recent years for the sheer numbers of stops, searches and arrests. In the war on drugs, federal grant programs like the Edward Byrne Memorial Justice Assistance Grant Program have encouraged state and local law enforcement agencies to boost drug arrests in order to compete for millions of dollars in funding. Agencies receive cash rewards for arresting high numbers of people for drug offenses, no matter how minor the offenses or how weak the evidence. Law enforcement has increasingly become a numbers game. And as it has, police officers’ tendency to regard procedural rules as optional and to lie and distort the facts has grown as well. Numerous scandals involving police officers lying or planting drugs — in Tulia, Tex. and Oakland, Calif., for example — have been linked to federally funded drug task forces eager to keep the cash rolling in.

But private, for profit prisons will pose no problems. Couldn’t see police and judges making a little on the side to steer business their way.

99 Lidane  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 6:46:18am

BLAME THE OLD PEOPLE!

100 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 6:48:16am

The ultimate goal of the TP - eliminating entire departments of government:

101 iossarian  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 6:54:01am

Is the “New Comments” button showing the number of “pending” comments for anyone else? I’m not getting it here.

102 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 6:56:54am
103 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:04:05am

DERP

104 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:04:48am

DERP DERP

105 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:06:44am

re: #104 Vicious Babushka

Another factoid pulled from his ass? None of the lesbians I know are obese. In fact, some are pretty hot, but alas! not interested in me.

106 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:07:00am

re: #104 Vicious Babushka

DERP DERP

Because every heterosexual woman I’ve ever met was trim, fit, and worked out every day.

////

107 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:08:32am

DERP DERP HURR HURR BUSH=RINO!!!1111

108 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:10:09am

Looks like FAT LESBIANS is becoming Derp O’Teh Day.

109 iossarian  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:11:32am

re: #108 Vicious Babushka

Looks like FAT LESBIANS is becoming Derp O’Teh Day.

Combines many right-wing resentments into one easy-to-swallow package.

110 The Mountain That Blogs  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:11:43am

re: #86 Vicious Babushka

How does guzzling a bunch of sugary soft drinks prove that you love liberty more than you love diabetes?

Because nothing says “I love liberty” more than cutting off your nose to spite your face. Consider Mississippi:

111 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:12:51am

re: #107 Vicious Babushka

DERP DERP HURR HURR BUSH=RINO!!!1111

Republicans run on repealing Obamacare, lose spectacularly, proceed to ignore election results and act as if they won anyway by having their VP candidate write a budget in which they repeal Obamacare.

It’s no wonder the GOP doesn’t want to negotiate anymore, they put up all their ideas to the American people and lost.

112 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:13:22am

re: #110 The Mountain That Blogs

Because nothing says “I love liberty” more than cutting off your nose to spite your face. Consider Mississippi:

Even though I think Bloomberg is a primo control freak who has turned NYC into his own person Sim City, I do not consume sugared beverages.

113 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:13:25am

re: #108 Vicious Babushka

Right, because all lesbians are fat. Except when they’re not (see Anne Heche or Ellen DeGeneres or Portia de Rossi, for 3 high profile counterexamples).

114 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:13:47am

re: #113 lawhawk

Right, because all lesbians are fat. Except when they’re not (see Anne Heche or Ellen DeGeneres or Portia de Rossi, for 3 high profile counterexamples).

Rachel Maddow that fat lump o’lard.

115 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:14:38am

re: #111 Targetpractice

Republicans run on repealing Obamacare, lose spectacularly, proceed to ignore election results and act as if they won anyway by having their VP candidate write a budget in which they repeal Obamacare.

It’s no wonder the GOP doesn’t want to negotiate anymore, they put up all their ideas to the American people and lost.

There was nothing wrong with their ideas. It was simply that they were failed by Romney. The GOP just has to change the face which presents them and the citizenry will accept their forthcoming slavery liberation with open arms!
//

116 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:15:05am

DERP DERP HURR HURR

117 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:16:40am

WINGNUTS FREAKING OUT. WANT TO RESCIND THE DONALD’S INVITATION TO CPAC.

118 iossarian  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:16:41am

re: #110 The Mountain That Blogs

Because nothing says “I love liberty” more than cutting off your nose to spite your face. Consider Mississippi:

Small government! Unless the government can prevent librul things from happening! Then big government!

119 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:19:25am

re: #116 Vicious Babushka

See, I think the soda ban is pretty dumb, partially because of the backlash and partially because it just motivates people to work around it in some way or another.

My solution, however, is far more collectivist and big-government than most people would be fine with. I think that to the extent a company makes money off of causing problems and doing no good, it should get taxed on that profit. Cigarette companies should be punitively taxed because they sell poison. Soda companies should be significantly taxed because their product isn’t actually nutritious. Etc.

I’m not actually making this a proposal because it would be politically impossible— we’re far too far from that sort of actual accountability for actions in the current day. I’d say that’s the difference between me and Bloomberg. Ideally, sure, I’d like to constrain, one way or another, the sale of shit that just makes everyone worse off, but we’re not in an ideal world so I’m not going to pretend we can actually achieve that right now.

120 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:20:22am

re: #110 The Mountain That Blogs

I actually get the rationale behind the anti-Bloomberg law. It allows a consistent approach statewide as opposed to higher costs to businesses trying to comply with a patchwork of laws/rules across a state - mostly to chain businesses that get cost efficiencies from a standardized setup.

Problem is that Mississippi has one of the worst obesity epidemics in the nation, and that directly relates to health care costs incurred by residents there (and affects overall health care costs to federal health care programs).

Oh, and Mississippi’s population is a fraction of that of NYC all told (or slightly larger than the population of Brooklyn).

My issues with the Bloomberg soda ban was that it had far too many loopholes, acts as a back door tax/cost on purchasers in selected stores, and ignores that far more products have a higher calorie count and aren’t covered by the ban. It also ignores the personal choice and that people can choose their own eating options and portion control. And soda manufacturers could counter by fortifying their product with vitamins/minerals (the way that milk and juice is fortified with vitamins and minerals) to show that they aren’t simply empty calories.

Besides, junk food tax/soda tax would achieve a similar goal and wouldn’t run into the problems that Bloomberg had with the selective soda ban. High calorie count products could be taxed.

121 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:22:18am

re: #119 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

See, I think the soda ban is pretty dumb, partially because of the backlash and partially because it just motivates people to work around it in some way or another.

My solution, however, is far more collectivist and big-government than most people would be fine with. I think that to the extent a company makes money off of causing problems and doing no good, it should get taxed on that profit. Cigarette companies should be punitively taxed because they sell poison. Soda companies should be significantly taxed because their product isn’t actually nutritious. Etc.

I’m not actually making this a proposal because it would be politically impossible— we’re far too far from that sort of actual accountability for actions in the current day. I’d say that’s the difference between me and Bloomberg. Ideally, sure, I’d like to constrain, one way or another, the sale of shit that just makes everyone worse off, but we’re not in an ideal world so I’m not going to pretend we can actually achieve that right now.

I think Walmart should be taxed for the amount that their employees receive in food stamps and medicaid because they are not paid enough to live on.

122 iossarian  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:24:56am

re: #121 Vicious Babushka

I think Walmart should be taxed for the amount that their employees receive in food stamps and medicaid because they are not paid enough to live on.

I know! I know! We could make it illegal to hire someone to work at a pay rate that makes them reliant on the government to provide them with enough food to survive! We could call it, I don’t know, a minimum wage or something.

123 Bulworth  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:25:10am

re: #117 Vicious Babushka

Seriously, I worry for Ashley Judd’s safety and well-being. I hope she knows what she’s getting into and the kind of crap she’ll be dealing with if she runs.

But I sure do loves me Ashley Judd. She’s a lovely lady and a great humanitarian.

124 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:25:22am

re: #120 lawhawk

I actually get the rationale behind the anti-Bloomberg law. It allows a consistent approach statewide as opposed to higher costs to businesses trying to comply with a patchwork of laws/rules across a state - mostly to chain businesses that get cost efficiencies from a standardized setup.

Problem is that Mississippi has one of the worst obesity epidemics in the nation, and that directly relates to health care costs incurred by residents there (and affects overall health care costs to federal health care programs).

Oh, and Mississippi’s population is a fraction of that of NYC all told (or slightly larger than the population of Brooklyn).

My issues with the Bloomberg soda ban was that it had far too many loopholes, acts as a back door tax/cost on purchasers in selected stores, and ignores that far more products have a higher calorie count and aren’t covered by the ban. It also ignores the personal choice and that people can choose their own eating options and portion control. And soda manufacturers could counter by fortifying their product with vitamins/minerals (the way that milk and juice is fortified with vitamins and minerals) to show that they aren’t simply empty calories.

Besides, junk food tax/soda tax would achieve a similar goal and wouldn’t run into the problems that Bloomberg had with the selective soda ban. High calorie count products could be taxed.

Ah, so a Twinkie Tax on Ding Dongs?!?
;)

125 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:28:17am

Good morning lizards!

127 Bulworth  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:32:06am

re: #99 Lidane


BLAME THE OLD PEOPLE!

Oppression! Tyranny! ///

128 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:33:56am

Why do they keep on spamming these Fake Quotes? WHY?

129 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:34:21am

Saudi Arabia has a shortage of head choppers.

A Lack of Swordsmen May Lead Saudis to Abolish Beheadings

Is this what progress looks like in Saudi Arabia? The Kingdom is considering ending execution by beheading in favor of firing squads, reports the Egyptian English-language news website Ahram Online. A committee consisting of representatives from the Ministries of Interior, Justice and Health says there are shortages in government swordsmen and argue that a change to execution by firing squad would not violate Islamic law, the Saudi daily newspaper al-Youm writes. According to an official statement from the committee, “This solution seems practical, especially in light of shortages in official swordsmen or their belated arrival to execution yards in some incidents.”

Execution by beheading in Saudi Arabia has continually been condemned by human-rights groups. According to Human Rights Watch (HRW), at least 69 people were executed by beheading in 2012, while Amnesty International says 79 were killed under the death penalty in the same period. In 2012 HRW wrote, “Saudi Arabia has no penal code, so prosecutors and judges largely define criminal offenses at their discretion.” Rape, murder, armed robbery, drug trafficking and even suspected “sorcery” are punishable by death under Saudi Arabia’s Islamic law.

130 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:34:23am

re: #13 Shvaughn

Here’s a Think Progress article on the protest in Brooklyn.

Image: vigil1.jpg

comments…

The cops will say they feared for their lives the reason they shot the teen. This is nationwide excuse cops use after a kill. “I feared for my life”; “I feared for my partner’s life.” Witnesses will be treated like liars or not asked for an official statement. The police have already written their reports and each of them will back each other. Another mother and father will have to suffer and cry because their son’s killers will go unpunished. New York has a history of killing African American males on a hunch. “I thought I saw a gun.”

There’s one big problem with the whole “gun” story; there was no gun. Did someone run up to the dead body of the boy and steal the gun when the officer wasn’t looking?

The pigs murder a teen member of a community, then riot police come to *cause* a riot at that community’s vigil.

….

There is an epidemic of police violence against youth of color. Gun control should begin with disarming the real perpetrators of violence and terror - the police and the military. The police are not workers, they are the paramilitary arm of the state whose sole mission is to protect state/corporate/wealthy private property and to perpetuate racism. they do this by arresting, terrorizing and murdering predominantly youth of color. Enough is enough! Bring the killer cops to justice, real justice!

131 Bulworth  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:34:34am

re: #116 Vicious Babushka

DERP DERP HURR HURR

Well, I’m pretty tobacco can and does lead to death. But I guess it’s “political correctness” to point that out.

And I’m pretty sure we who want to mandate dope in every house also want higher incomes in the form of a higher minimum wage.

132 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:34:57am

If Mikey Nothem doesn’t block me I’ll know it’s a Fake Quote spamming bot.

133 Bulworth  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:35:53am

re: #128 Vicious Babushka

What’s the quote they’re alledging?

134 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:37:11am
135 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:38:51am

re: #129 NJDhockeyfan

Saudi Arabia has a shortage of head choppers.

A Lack of Swordsmen May Lead Saudis to Abolish Beheadings

Progress!

136 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:38:59am

re: #130 Killgore Trout

Is that all comments, or is part of it your add on to it? Hard to tell with the current formatting.

137 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:40:15am

re: #136 Feline Fearless Leader

Is that all comments, or is part of it your add on to it? Hard to tell with the current formatting.

Sorry, I botched the formatting. Those are individual comments.

138 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:40:16am

re: #134 Vicious Babushka

“Government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take away everything you have.”

Just about any government is big enough to do that.

Oh, and I like the revised Babushka Cat avatar - just noticed it. :)

139 Lidane  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:45:24am
140 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:47:46am

Two Scoops of Marijuana?: Texas ice cream truck carried more than frozen treats, police say

(CBS) EL PASO, Texas - Two men were arrested in west Texas after they were found to be in possession of marijuana…that they were transported in an ice cream truck, CBS affiliate KDBC reports.

According to the El Paso Times, 29-year-old Anthony Arellano and 19-year-old Elijah Sanchez are facing multiple charges after deputies from the El Paso County Sheriff’s Office caught the pair in possession of the drug.

KDBC reported that on Saturday, authorities observed a dilapidated ice cream truck with an expired registration sticker and a cracked windshield.

When police stopped the vehicle, the station reported, Sanchez made a run for it. He was soon caught, however, and police said they found that Sanchez had two tupperware bowls with him containing a green leafy substance that cops believed to be marijuana.

Arellano was also arrested when additional supplies of the drug were allegedly found in the ice cream truck itself.

Here is a picture of the culprits.

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141 Bulworth  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:51:02am

re: #134 Vicious Babushka

Yeah but they just know Jefferson said that. /

142 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:51:52am

re: #141 Bulworth

Yeah but they just know Jefferson said that. /

SOMEBODY SAID IT AND IT’S TOTALLY TRUE!!!1111!!!!!

143 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:53:11am
144 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:54:25am

THIS IS TEH DERP THAT NEVER ENDS

145 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:54:36am

Mother of the year:

Rachelle Braaten arrested for giving 22-month-old pot

Police say this is video of a Centralia mother having her 22-month-old boy take a hit off her marijuana bong. He coughs and people can be heard laughing. The boy’s mother, 24-year-old Rachelle Braaten was arrested for allegedly giving the child pot. The boy and his five year old brother are now in state custody and neighbors are shocked.

Police raided the mother’s home the other day after investigating the cellphone video of the boy sent to them anonymously.

Inside the mother’s house they also found a marijuana grow of 40 plants and several weapons that were allegedly illegal for a convicted felon living at the house to possess. But it is the short video clip of a toddler inhaling marijuana from a bong that has people disgusted.

146 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:56:48am

re: #145 NJDhockeyfan

I am totally pro-pot, but it is completely scientifically established that smoking up while you’re still growing will have adverse effects. Parents who let— or in this case, make— their kids toke are idjits.

147 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:57:57am

Mikey Nothem has blocked me for correcting his Fake Quote.

148 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:59:37am

Well folks, here’s the Ryan budget for this year, all 91 pages of it. Anybody needs me, I’ll be rolling on the floor, laughing my ass off.

READ: Paul Ryan’s Budget

149 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:03:05am

I remember when I was 16. I knew back then that carrying around a handgun might get you into BIG trouble with the cops.

150 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:03:53am

DERP O’TEH DAY PICKING UP TWEET STEAM

151 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:04:47am

re: #149 Gus

I remember when I was 16. I knew back then that carrying around a handgun might get you into BIG trouble with the cops.

But carrying around guns is awesomely patriotic. It’s all so confusing.

152 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:05:31am

re: #151 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

But carrying around guns is awesomely patriotic. It’s all so confusing.

Think it has something to do with intent and setting.

153 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:06:27am

I think cops should all go on strike. Maybe quit.

154 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:06:50am

re: #151 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

But carrying around guns is awesomely patriotic. It’s all so confusing.

U TOTALLY NEED TO CARRY A GUN AT ALL TIMES IN CASE SOMEBODY TRIES TO RAPE U!!!1111!!!! GUNZ IS A RAPE PREVENTER!!!1111 NOBODY WITH A GUN WAS EVER RAPED EVER!!1111

155 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:07:46am

Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya
Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya
Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya
Oh Lord, kumbaya

156 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:08:09am

re: #152 Gus

Think it has something to do with intent and setting.

Yeah, I think it’s:

Carrying guns around to have a shootout with DHS when they come to seize your weapons in their 2177 tanks they’ve bought is awesomely patriotic.

Carrying guns around when you’re a black teenager to have a shootout with the cops is very unpatriotic.

157 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:08:29am

re: #153 Gus

I think cops should all go on strike. Maybe quit.

I think the cops need better bosses.

158 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:09:08am

re: #156 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Yeah, I think it’s:

Carrying guns around to have a shootout with DHS when they come to seize your weapons in their 2177 tanks they’ve bought is awesomely patriotic.

Carrying guns around when you’re a black teenager to have a shootout with the cops is very unpatriotic.

WHITE PEOPLE HAVING GUNZ=TOTALLY PATRIOTIC
BLACK PEOPLE HAVING GUNZ=CRIMINALS

159 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:09:27am

So. Caught a little TV this morning. Local news and commercials. It’s like non-stop babbling. Talk, talk, hype, hype. No wonder Americans are so whacked. Then they had this segment about some new show on The History Channel about some book called the bible. Pretty freaky segment. Kind of had a new age feel to it.

160 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:10:06am

BUT NRA WAS TOTALLY ESTABLISHED TO HELP FREED SLAVES DEFEND AGAINST TEH KKK BECAUSE WE SAY SO!!!! AND MLK WAZ A HONORARY NRA MEMBER!!!11!!!!

161 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:10:27am

re: #157 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

I think the cops need better bosses.

I thought Bloomberg was the great savior. You know. Banning smoking and sugary soft drinks. Same with LA mayor, what’s his name. The Gucci shoes guy.

162 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:10:50am

re: #159 Gus


Yeah, I’ve been seeing ads for the Bible thing, looks fucking awful and exploitative as shit. And you’re completely right about the news people just fucking babbling. I think it’s because what they’re saying has little to no actual meaning, and if they stopped to give you time to think about what they were saying it’d be ineffective.

The news is basically a giant Gish Gallop. Unintentionally.

163 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:11:03am

re: #159 Gus

So. Caught a little TV this morning. Local news and commercials. It’s like non-stop babbling. Talk, talk, hype, hype. No wonder Americans are so whacked. Then they had this segment about some new show on The History Channel about some book called the bible. Pretty freaky segment. Kind of had a new age feel to it.

Bryan Fischer said it was SO BOGUS. All about Sodom being punished because they were mean to the poor, nothing at all about Teh Ghey.

164 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:11:25am


Red, White & Blue = Patriotic!
Red, Black & Blue = OMG! Gang WAR!

(spit)

165 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:11:56am

re: #161 Gus

I thought Bloomberg was the great savior. You know. Banning smoking and sugary soft drinks. Same with LA mayor, what’s his name. The Gucci shoes guy.

Banning smoking indoors I can get behind, just because asthma is so freaking common. Banning sugary soft drinks is an entirely different and more petty kettle of fish.

I don’t know anyone that considers Bloomberg a great savior.

166 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:13:28am

re: #153 Gus

I think cops should all go on strike. Maybe quit.

I think the protesters should stop protesting and go to the family and see if they need help with other children that are headed for trouble. If that kid hadn’t tried to kill those cops he would have eventually killed someone else.

167 iossarian  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:13:48am

re: #165 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

I don’t know anyone that considers Bloomberg a great savior.

People who are in burning need of nifty financial data terminals?

168 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:14:26am

re: #165 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Banning smoking indoors I can get behind, just because asthma is so freaking common. Banning sugary soft drinks is an entirely different and more petty kettle of fish.

I don’t know anyone that considers Bloomberg a great savior.

Michael Bloomberg believes that.

169 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:15:29am

DERP DERP

170 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:15:42am

Has anybody bothered to wade through Bradley Manning’s manifesto yet?

171 iossarian  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:16:27am

re: #166 Killgore Trout

If that kid hadn’t tried to kill those cops he would have eventually killed someone else.

On what basis is this assessment made?

172 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:17:00am

Nun, Poll Worker, Widower Charged With Voter Fraud

A nun, a poll worker and a widowed husband all stand accused of voter fraud in Hamilton County. Prosecutors say the three, who do not know each other, all voted in the 2012 Presidential Election using the names of relatives or deceased Hamilton County residents-and in one case, voted twice using the same name.

54 year old Sister Marguerite Kloos and 75 year old Russell Glassop each face one count of illegal voting and 58 year old Melowese Richardson faces eight counts of Illegal Voting.

173 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:17:03am

re: #166 Killgore Trout

I think the protesters should stop protesting and go to the family and see if they need help with other children that are headed for trouble. If that kid hadn’t tried to kill those cops he would have eventually killed someone else.

I’m not going to grind my teeth over this. The summer before some cop was shot and killed trying to break up some gang incident. Dead.

174 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:17:11am

MAKE THEM STARVE & THEN THEY’LL BE GRATEFUL TO WORK FOR RICE & GRUEL!!!1111


175 kirkspencer  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:20:55am

I’m rereading the incident, what there is to read, and I’m terribly confused.

A group of 16-18 year old blacks - male and female - are standing in a group. The car carrying two unmarked policemen is driving along the street. They stop to approach Gray because he steps slightly away from the group and adjusts his waistband “in a peculiar manner.”

really? ok. let’s continue.

External observer. I see a car stop and two men (race unknown at this time) in suits approach the kids. I see the kids turn, and Gray’s got his hands at his waist. The two men stop, draw, and start shooting. Police testimony as reported says nothing about the officers identifying themselves. No witness testimony says anything like it. Follow up questions from reporters get “I never heard them say anything.”

So the really weird thing going through my head is this. How, when Gray turned, did he /KNOW/ these were police and that he needed to draw on them (according to police story) or try to run (some of the witnesses testimony)? Or maybe he did neither but instead yelled “Stop, I’m not running.” (other witness testimony). But how did he know - or believe - these were police? Because it’s plain to me that despite not announcing themselves Gray knew who they were.

Another odd bit that’s not settling well for me is the recovered pistol. It has a known owner - one of the other boys that was in the group. Who really had, and dropped, that pistol when the shooting began?

See, my problem is that I don’t trust the NYPD to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. There’s been too much lying recently. At the same time I don’t think they are tyrannical bullies who will lie in every instance - I don’t think they’re always wrong. So I’m having to start with the assumption that everybody’s testimony has to be matched to evidence or treated as untrustworthy.

So the first thing I think I’d like to know is about the pistol. Whose fingerprints are on its butt and trigger, maybe the safety? If they can get the partial off the hammer, whose thumbprint will it show? At this instant the whole question of which story to trust leans heavily on that pistol, and I’d really like to know if Gray was or was not holding it last.

176 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:21:31am

re: #174 Vicious Babushka

Is Reaganite some odd conservative mineral that is supposed to repel liberals and communists?
;P

Probably keeps away tigers as well. But might well be an elephant attractant.

177 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:23:41am

re: #176 Feline Fearless Leader

Is Reaganite some odd conservative mineral that is supposed to repel liberals and communists?
;P

Probably keeps away tigers as well. But might well be an elephant attractant.

It’s made out of Derp.

178 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:26:33am

re: #166 Killgore Trout

I think the protesters should stop protesting and go to the family and see if they need help with other children that are headed for trouble. If that kid hadn’t tried to kill those cops he would have eventually killed someone else.

Why are you claiming that the kid tried to kill the cops?

179 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:27:18am

Heh. Skeptics.

180 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:27:57am

DERP DERP HURR HURR

181 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:28:43am

DERP DERP HURR HURR

182 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:31:13am

Thank goodness they caught this guy.

Police: Stamford man charged with making bombs had neo-Nazi photos

STAMFORD - A Stamford man charged Monday with making a bomb had photos of mass murderers and neo-Nazi white supremacy posters at his Stamford house and told authorities he was planning for the end of the world, police said.

…Stamford officials went to Saturno’s home Jan. 30 to investigate allegations of housing code violations. Stamford police say they found a suspected pipe bomb, suspicious powders and shotguns.

Saturno told police he was planning to use the device to break a large rock on his property, according to his arrest affidavit. Saturno initially said that he used the device to polish rocks and metal pieces and that he was engaged in welding, police said.

…Police said they found photos of serial killers Jeffrey Dahmer and Charles Manson on walls of a small office area in the basement. Police said they also found newspaper clippings of funeral photos of a Stamford police officer with a note attached, “Just keeping score… RIH.”

…Police said they also found numerous martial arts weapons and literature pertaining to the chemistry of explosives and military comb! at survival.
“Donald openly and repeatedly stated that he believ ed the economy was leading to the end of the world and advised that he was planning for the end of the world,” the affidavit states. “Donald advised that he was stockpiling items for the end of the world and appeared to portray a very survivalist approach who was not very happy with the economy and current state of domestic affairs.”

183 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:32:17am

re: #182 NJDhockeyfan

Thank goodness they caught this guy.

Police: Stamford man charged with making bombs had neo-Nazi photos

Life imitates “Criminal Minds”

184 makeitstop  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:32:29am

re: #178 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Why are you claiming that the kid tried to kill the cops?

He’s got his narrative and he’s rolling with it. Case solved.
///

185 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:33:06am

re: #183 Vicious Babushka

Life imitates “Criminal Minds”

Except the blonde chick with the glasses that match every outfit is totally bogus.

186 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:33:09am

Cops are human. Very human. They commit crimes at the same rate as the rest of the population— actually, they commit violent crimes slightly more often than the rest of the population. They can make mistakes, lie, cover stuff up, etc. This is not shocking— we just had the incident in LA where the cops shot the shit out of two cars because they were jumpy as fuck. It is not in any way a weird conspiracy theory to say that it’s possible that the cops might have fired without sufficient provocation and be corralling the narrative to cover their asses.

And again, I think that cops who kill someone in the performance of their duty shouldn’t face the same justice system as the rest of us. We ask cops to carry around guns and make these decisions. Even the best, most level-headed cop would, given infinite time, shoot someone because he panicked or made a mistake. And yet we treat them, when they do, the same as any other person, as if every person has the same opportunity to fuck up with a firearm as a cop.

The vast majority of problems in police departments do not flow up from the cops on the beat, they flow down from policies put in place by DAs and mayors and the rest. And we vote for those people.

187 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:33:10am

re: #180 Vicious Babushka

Except that Arizona, where he bought the guns, has some of most lax firearms laws in the nation and there’s no requirement on long guns - such as the AR-15 he bought with the intention of turning in to the Tuscon PD.

Some states limit the sale of multiple rifles or ban the sale of any assault weapon, but Arizona has no such restrictions. Buyers must pass a federal background check, but the decision to sell dozens, even hundreds, of rifles to the same customer is up to gun dealers and store employees. So too is any decision to notify authorities of any repeat customers or suspicious purchases.

According to federal authorities, the lack of laws limiting sales or requiring reports has turned Arizona into a shopping bazaar for Mexican drug lords. They supply their soldiers with guns that were first legally purchased at gun stores then smuggled south of the border.

The straw purchase law in AZ is also quite lax (and treats it as a misdemeanor):

Arizona’s state laws allow straw purchases to be prosecuted as a misdemeanor, and strengthening the federal laws will help fill in that gap.

The legislation passed out of the Senate Judiciary Committee last week on an 11-7 vote, with one Republican voting in support. This is a simple, logical measure that deserves widespread support.

A “straw purchase” happens when a person who can pass a gun-purchase background check fills out the necessary paperwork to legally acquire a firearm on behalf of a “prohibited purchaser.” A person can be barred from owning a firearm because of a criminal record, having been involuntarily committed for mental illness, or drug use.

The Tuscon PD isn’t a prohibited purchaser.

188 kirkspencer  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:35:21am

re: #180 Vicious Babushka

DERP DERP HURR HURR

He doesn’t even know the law he wants to keep. I can, in most states, purchase a weapon for someone else if I reasonably believe they can legally possess the weapon. I can pretty much guess that the police office can legally own any weapon I can purchase, and probably any such that Mr. Kelly can purchase.

The more of this sort of thing I see, the less reason I have to activate my twitter account. I do not want to know what my cousin is eating now (Yes, every meal and snack, throughout most of them.) I do not want to read a bunch of snarky one-liners meant to demean, insult, or disparage people — usually based on lies or confusion. I don’t have enough time as it is, why burden myself with hours of trash?

189 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:37:46am

G-D Hates Tweeters who Tweet Fake Quotes

190 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:38:58am

re: #189 Vicious Babushka

G-D Hates Tweeters who Tweet Fake Quotes

Because before Obama we weren’t selling weapons to Egypt and Saudi Arabia.

191 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:39:54am

re: #190 Gus

Or buying oil from Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Iraq, all of which remain in a state of war with Israel?

192 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:40:20am

re: #191 lawhawk

Or buying oil from Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Iraq, all of which remain in a state of war with Israel?

Reagan sold AWACS to the Saudis.

193 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:40:27am

Earlier today, I made my now usual morning pass by Gander Mountain (taking care to stay out of easy handgun range). Sure enough, the ammo and gun hoarders were out in force, waiting for their shot at whatever happens to have arrived overnight. There were about a hundred people in line, more than in past days, perhaps because it is warmer today.
A while back I jokingly suggested that I should go into the ammo manufacturing business. Turns out my brother, who already manufactures guns, has considered doing just that. He found that the necessary equipment is back-ordered basically till doomsday. Go figure. His line of super-quality M-1911 pistols is, itself, back-ordered for over a year, though nobody with any influence at all has suggested any kind of ban on these weapons.

194 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:41:56am
195 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:42:03am

Dennis Rodman plans to meet the new pope

After bringing “basketball diplomacy” to North Korea, the former NBA star has set his sights on the Vatican

LOL!

196 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:42:22am

re: #194 Gus

This is interesting.

That is creepy as fuck.

197 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:43:39am

re: #192 Vicious Babushka

And F-15s to Saudi Arabia.

And before that, we were giving gear to the Iranians under the Shah, including F-14s (a few of which may still be operable in the Iranian Air Force such as it is now).

198 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:44:22am

re: #193 Shiplord Kirel

I made my now usual morning pass by Gander Mountain today (taking care to stay out of easy handgun range). Sure enough, the ammo and gun hoarders were out in force, waiting for their shot at whatever happens to have arrived overnight. There were perhaps a hundred people in line, more than in past days, perhaps because it is warmer today.
A while back I jokingly suggested that I should go into the ammo manufacturing business. Turns out my brother, who already manufactures guns, has considered doing just that. He found that the necessary equipment is back-ordered basically till doomsday. Go figure. His line of super-quality M-1911 pistols is, itself, back-ordered for over a year, though nobody with any influence at all has suggested any kind of ban on these weapons.

I talked to one of the new gun owners on my block yesterday. He just bought a .22 pistol and is having a hard time finding ammo.

199 wrenchwench  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:46:18am
200 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:46:35am

re: #198 Killgore Trout

I talked to one of the new gun owners on my block yesterday. He just bought a .22 pistol and is having a hard time finding ammo.

201 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:46:46am

re: #197 lawhawk

And F-15s to Saudi Arabia.

And before that, we were giving gear to the Iranians under the Shah, including F-14s (a few of which may still be operable in the Iranian Air Force such as it is now).

Pakistan is also a very good F-16 customer. Been so for a long time now. Also, a lot of them train stateside including Red Flag.

202 Lidane  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:47:18am
203 CuriousLurker  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:47:32am

re: #191 lawhawk

Or buying oil from Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Iraq, all of which remain in a state of war with Israel?

re: #192 Vicious Babushka

Reagan sold AWACS to the Saudis.

Seems those two things kinda went hand in hand (emphasis mine):

Reagan on Reasoning Behind AWACS Sales to Saudi Arabia

THE PRESIDENT. This morning Congress was notified of our intention to sell AWACS aircraft and F-15 enhancement items to Saudi Arabia. I have proposed this sale because it significantly enhances our own vital national security interests in the Middle East. By building confidence in the United States as a reliable security partner, the sale will greatly improve the chances of our working constructively with Saudi Arabia and other states of the Middle East toward our common goal— a just and lasting peace. It poses no threat to Israel, now or in the future. Indeed, by contributing to the security and stability of the regions, it serves Israel’s long-range interests.

Further, this sale will significantly improve the capability of Saudi Arabia and the United States to defend the oil fields on which the security of the free world depends.

As President, it’s my duty to define and defend our broad national security objectives. The Congress, of course, plays an important role in this process. And while we must always take into account the vital interests of our allies, American security interests must remain our internal responsibility. It is not the business of other nations to make American foreign policy. An objective assessment of U.S. national interest must favor the proposed sale. And I say this as one who holds strongly the view that both a secure state of Israel and a stable Mideast peace are essential to our national interests.

204 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:49:03am

The NRA’s worst nightmare has come true: The average law-abiding American can no longer just walk into a store and buy the gun of his or her choice.

It is not evil liberals and gun-grabbing comsymps who have caused this, however. It is the NRA itself with its promotion of the insane conspiracy theories that in turn are fueling the speculative hysteria.

205 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:49:32am

Behold, the next pope!

Image: pope_rodman.jpg

206 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:50:06am

Kirk D. Relford will now totally block Babushka!

207 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:51:46am

OBAMACARE WILL KILL JRRBZ!!!1111
MINIMUM WAGE WILL KILL JRRBZ!!!11111
YOONYUNZ KILL JRRBZ!!!11111!!!
SUSTAINABLE ENERGY KILLS JRRBZ!!!!!!
PAYING WORKERS MOAR THEN RICE & GRUEL KILLS JRRBZ!!!!!!


208 iossarian  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:53:56am

re: #178 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Why are you claiming that the kid tried to kill the cops?

Not only that - if he hadn’t been shot by the cops he would just have ended up “shooting someone else”.

Which you can only read in two ways: either gun ownership is inherently unsafe to the point where cops killing a gun owner is justified on the basis of preventing future harm, or black kids who have guns available to them are just going to use them to kill people.

209 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:53:58am

Breaking:

City Police Officer Guilty in Plot to Kill and Eat Women

A New York police officer was convicted on Tuesday in a bizarre plot to kidnap, torture, kill and eat women.

The officer, Gilberto Valle, 28, could be sentenced to life in prison for one count of kidnapping conspiracy.

210 Dr. Matt  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:54:43am

How exactly does an extra 30 million people with access to health care “kill jobs”? I would loooooovvveee to hear this explanation.

211 Mattand  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:54:51am

re: #204 Shiplord Kirel

The NRA’s worst nightmare has come true: The average law-abiding American can no longer just walk into a store and buy the gun of his or her choice.

It is not evil liberals and gun-grabbing comsymps who have caused this, however. It is the NRA itself with its promotion of the insane conspiracy theories that in turn are fueling the speculative hysteria.

I know some seniors who are gun-owning Glenn Beck worshipers, and they were bitching about the lack of ammo in ‘09. Didn’t we go through this bullet hoarding horseshit 4 years ago, or has it been going on the whole time?

212 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:55:05am

re: #209 NJDhockeyfan

Breaking:

City Police Officer Guilty in Plot to Kill and Eat Women

Next on “Criminal Minds!”

I love that show. I know it’s lame but SHEMAR MOORE IS SO TOTALLY SMOKING HOT!!!!111

213 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:55:15am

re: #210 Dr. Matt

Because. OBAMA!

214 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:58:28am

re: #209 NJDhockeyfan

Breaking:

City Police Officer Guilty in Plot to Kill and Eat Women

OK. It appears that the NYPD has a serious PR problem! //

215 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:58:46am

re: #210 Dr. Matt

It wont cause a loss of jobs - and health care is one of those growing job fields because higher demand due to retiring baby boomers who need specialized care etc. One of the criticisms over the PPACA was that there’d be a shortage of primary care physicians to handle the demand, leading to higher wait times for seeing doctors, and that the pipeline for new doctors wouldn’t keep up with demand in general practice areas (not as much a problem for specialities).

216 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:00:03am

re: #215 lawhawk

It wont cause a loss of jobs - and health care is one of those growing job fields because higher demand due to retiring baby boomers who need specialized care etc. One of the criticisms over the PPACA was that there’d be a shortage of primary care physicians to handle the demand, leading to higher wait times for seeing doctors, and that the pipeline for new doctors wouldn’t keep up with demand in general practice areas (not as much a problem for specialities).

Nurse Practitioners also qualify as PCP’s under ACA, good news for my daughter who just earned her Master’s in Nursing from Columbia.

217 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:01:27am

Welcome back Twinkies (and Yodels), we missed you… but all those laid off when Hostess went bankrupt wont be hired back.

Billionaire private equity mogul Leon Black is the new Mr. Twinkie.

Black’s Apollo Global Management was the only entity to make a bid for the snacks business of bankrupt Hostess Brands – grabbing ownership of the stable of well known brands for $410 million, The Post has learned.

The private equity firm — known for making money off distressed assets — teamed with veteran food exec Dean Metropoulos on the bid for the business, which also includes Ho-Hos, Donettes and Dolly Madison in addition to Twinkies.

The headline for bids was Monday at 5 p.m.

Hostess creditor Silver Point Capital and Hurst Capital in recent days had submitted letters indicating an intention to bid – but in the end neither stepped up to the plate with a firm proposal.

For the 18,000 workers who lost their jobs in November when Hostess closed its doors — this is not good news as Apollo, sources said, plans to outsource distribution to third-party drivers, and there is talk that much of Hostess snack production will be done through in conjunction with existing bakeries, not at one or more of the 33 shuttered Hostess bakeries.

Apollo will purchase and run some plants but will not look to hire all the laid off bakers, sources close to the company said.

218 Mattand  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:01:30am

re: #208 iossarian

Not only that - if he hadn’t been shot by the cops he would just have ended up “shooting someone else”.

Which you can only read in two ways: either gun ownership is inherently unsafe to the point where cops killing a gun owner is justified on the basis of preventing future harm, or black kids who have guns available to them are just going to use them to kill people.

Yeah, they’re just as dangerous and out-of-control as Occupy Wall Street protestors.

///

219 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:03:13am

re: #215 lawhawk

The criticism about jobs loss is that employers would rather shed jobs than provide health care benefits as required. Or that they wouldn’t hire as many people to avoid having to provide health care benefits.

220 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:04:11am

re: #210 Dr. Matt

How exactly does an extra 30 million people with access to health care “kill jobs”? I would loooooovvveee to hear this explanation.

The argument goes, as I’ve been able to understand it, that limits on how many hours a company can make you work before you qualify for coverage or how many workers a company can have before it must provide insurance will force those companies to work people just under the time limit and hire just up to the limit so as to avoid paying for anything. In other words, in a global marketplace where the US is competing against many nations whose corporations benefit from having the government pick up the tab for health care, corporations in the US will just bleed more blood from the stone in the name of “profit.”

221 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:08:55am
222 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:10:59am
223 kirkspencer  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:13:32am

re: #219 lawhawk

re: #220 Targetpractice

Both amounting to saving pennies by sacrificing dollars.

The best asset a company has is trained, knowledgeable, and experienced staff which is enthusiastic about the company. If the company’s measure of a worker’s worth is ‘not worth a penny more than forced to give’, then the company should not be surprised when the worker gives not a second more than that for which they’re paid - and then leaving for better fields the instant the opportunity is offered. And if a company is going to stretch its existing force to the maximum under those conditions, it has no ability to seize new opportunities.

A company that plans to grow and grow well needs some muscle that is lightly used - possibly even thought of as fat.

But yeah, a lot of companies’ leaders will decide a few pennies now and the ability to make a rude gesture in Obama’s direction beats long term profits down the road. After all, they’ll have theirs regardless.

224 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:14:06am

I’ll save folks time on this year’s iteration of the Ryan Plan: Just assume that everything about the last two still applies and you’ve saved yourself most of the time you’d need to leaf through it. And to save more time, go ahead and start laughing now that he really believes that Obama and Senate Democrats will sign off on repealing Obamacare.

225 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:15:49am

re: #223 kirkspencer

And the hit will be hardest in those industries where salaries are often lower - like say in the food service industry (see Darden for their policy changes on hour restrictions to reduce the numbers working full time equivalents - as well as resulting pushback).

226 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:17:31am

Hackers spill sensitive info on Jay-Z, Michelle Obama, lots of others

Social Security numbers, addresses and credit reports belonging to Michelle Obama, Jay-Z, Mel Gibson and Kim Kardashian were posted Monday on a site originating in the Soviet Union. Other apparent victims of this uploading-sensitive-information scheme, known as “doxxing,” include Beyonce, Ashton Kutcher, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden and Paris Hilton, marking the first time in years anyone cared enough about Paris Hilton to include her. A Twitter profile was created after the site went live and included an anti-police message (LAPD Chief Charlie Beck was among those doxxed), written in Russian. The FBI is now investigating — probably partly because Director Robert Mueller’s info was also posted.

227 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:18:49am

“Religious persecution”=FORCED to provide employees with healthcare that includes reproductive choice.

228 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:20:28am

re: #224 Targetpractice

Heh. Ryan’s trying another bite of the 2012 elections and the tax argument, but this time with even less specificity about how to achieve his goals so that no one can actually score his proposal and what it would do to individual taxes, let alone revenues.

229 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:21:37am
230 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:22:28am

They’re still at it. 2 minutes ago.

231 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:22:49am

re: #228 lawhawk

Heh. Ryan’s trying another bite of the 2012 elections and the tax argument, but this time with even less specificity about how to achieve his goals so that no one can actually score his proposal and what it would do to individual taxes, let alone revenues.

GMTA, I just read that same article. Yeah, Ryan’s learned a bit from the last few go arounds, this time he’s leaving himself some breathing room so when folks lean in to ask him “How do you make all this balance,” he just shrugs his shoulders and goes “That’s for other people to figure out, after we’ve passed this.”

232 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:23:25am

Gun manufacturers need to look at using some of their windfall loot to plan for the future; that is, retirement. This bubble will burst eventually. When it does, the huge cache of “pre-owned” but new-in-box guns will depress the market for newly manufactured guns for years, perhaps decades. Comparing pre-Obama sales rates with the recent rates, the extra guns sold during the Obama administration would be enough by themselves to meet “normal” (pre-Obama) demand for 3-5 years even if no new guns were sold at all. Of course, what we will actually see is a varying mix of factory new and hoarded guns in the market. If the latter take an average of only 15-20% of the sales, still more than enough to significantly affect manufacturers, they will last more than 20 years.

233 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:23:29am

re: #230 Gus

They’re still at it. 2 minutes ago.

Any of the “Top 9” featured on yesterday’s thread?

235 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:24:49am

re: #233 Vicious Babushka

Any of the “Top 9” featured on yesterday’s thread?

Don’t know. I just dropped two mortar rounds in there. :D

236 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:25:27am

‘course, it gets better. Ryan doesn’t even want to totally repeal Obamacare, he just wants to do away with any of the benefits of it. He still wants to keep the taxes and the $716 billion in cuts, because that’s the only way he can make his budget balance in 10 years.

237 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:26:48am
238 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:27:26am

re: #237 lawhawk

Hey Paul, your Freudian slip is showing.

239 iossarian  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:29:15am

re: #238 Targetpractice

Hey Paul, your Freudian slip is showing.

2016 here we come!!!

240 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:29:42am

I know most of you folks are smart and have subscriptions so you don’t see ads, but I just had to share this pop up ad that came up while I was browsing LGF the other day.

I think it’s from the Jim Hoft marketing agency or something.

241 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:31:43am
242 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:33:35am

Looks like they’re missing the Top 2 and want Twitter to help out. :)

243 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:34:40am

If semi-auto rifles really are banned (which I am not at all sure will happen), gunsmiths can do a lucrative business converting the vast stockpile of civilian AR-15s to bolt action. It’s fairly simple and is already being done for various reasons:
Bolt action AR-15
The altered gun looks like the original and shoots just as well, just not as fast.

244 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:35:32am

WHAT RIGHT-WING RACISM?

245 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:37:07am

re: #242 Vicious Babushka

Looks like they’re missing the Top 2 and want Twitter to help out. :)

The one I always love is the bit about costing people their employer-provided insurance. Wasn’t that something that McCain ran on, and even Republicans on Capital Hill were agreeing with during the Obamacare debates, the need to disconnect health insurance from employment? So why would a program that promotes that be seen as a bad thing? Oh right, because they’re being thrown off because their bosses are greedy bastards who think losing benefits will motivate workers to maintain the same level of production.

246 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:39:57am
Ran into a guy last night that was buy several boxes of .410 shotgun ammo.

“Didn’t you her, they bought 2,700 armored personnel carriers.”

“What’s that have to do with .410 ammo?”

247 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:43:34am

GE, aren’t they the corporation that paid, like, ZERO TAXES.

248 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:45:20am

The very scary looking British SA-80 “bullpup” rifle exists in a factory made manual (bolt) action version: L98 Cadet General Purpose Rifles

The L98A1 Cadet GP Rifle was a general purpose (GP) rifle used by the Combined Cadet Force and Sea, Marine, Army and Air Cadets in the United Kingdom. It was introduced in 1987 replacing the .303 Lee Enfield No 4 rifles and .303 Bren guns used for weapons training. The L98A1 rifle began a phased decommission in early 2009 and is now no longer in use. UK cadet forces have now received the updated L98A2 rifles.

There are also .22 LR conversion kits.

249 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:46:39am

‘There’s a lot of anger here’: Riot breaks out in Brooklyn following candlelight vigil for 16-year-old shot by cops

Before the riot Monday, a police source told The News that investigators believe Kimani was a member of the Bloods street gang. The source pointed to two YouTube videos, published last year, that featured violence between Bloods and Crips. The source said Kimani appears in both videos, which The News has refrained from publishing due to graphic content.

In one video, Kimani is clad in a red Adidas hoodie and goes by the nickname “Shapow,” the source said. He can be seen taunting and hitting a 13-year-old rival on Nostrand Ave. near Glenwood Rd. in Flatbush after the adversary flashed gang signs and said he runs with the Crips.

Kimani also swiped a beaded necklace from the Crip and then stomped on it, the video shows, while his friends in the background identified themselves as Bloods.

The second video captured an apparent Crips retaliation following the smackdown. A group of self-identified Crips stormed a McDonald’s on Utica Ave. and Ave. H in Flatbush after they spotted Kimani and other alleged Bloods inside, according to the video.

After a minute of heckling and heated exchanges inside the McDonald’s, the Crips retreated outside. They mocked Kimani for refusing to come out into the parking lot.

These appear to be the videos mentioned in the article
[Link: www.youtube.com…]

250 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:47:26am

re: #240 Eclectic Cyborg

I know most of you folks are smart and have subscriptions so you don’t see ads, but I just had to share this pop up ad that came up while I was browsing LGF the other day.

I think it’s from the Jim Hoft marketing agency or something.

I seem to remember wingnuts freaking out in 2000 that if the “hanging chad” election dispute wasn’t resolved quickly, Bill Clinton would DECLARE HIMSELF PRESIDENT FOR LIFE!!!1111

Don’t remember moonbats freaking out over GWB in 2008.

251 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:49:33am

re: #193 Shiplord Kirel

Earlier today, I made my now usual morning pass by Gander Mountain (taking care to stay out of easy handgun range). Sure enough, the ammo and gun hoarders were out in force, waiting for their shot at whatever happens to have arrived overnight. There were about a hundred people in line, more than in past days, perhaps because it is warmer today.
A while back I jokingly suggested that I should go into the ammo manufacturing business. Turns out my brother, who already manufactures guns, has considered doing just that. He found that the necessary equipment is back-ordered basically till doomsday. Go figure. His line of super-quality M-1911 pistols is, itself, back-ordered for over a year, though nobody with any influence at all has suggested any kind of ban on these weapons.

That’s interesting. What model does he make (since I know of no Shiplord Kirel Model)? When things calm down my wife is interested in a 1911 and I’d like to get her a good one when I can afford to.

252 Bulworth  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:49:56am

re: #247 Vicious Babushka

And the tweeter is linking to newsmax.

253 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:50:02am

re: #247 Vicious Babushka

GE, aren’t they the corporation that paid, like, ZERO TAXES.

GE, (disclaimer - I own GE stock), also happens to be going quite well over the past year or so - bouncing off the low of $18.69 is now trading above $23.

In fact, since its lows in 2009 of about $7 a share, it’s more than tripled in value.

GE also suffered hard because it was exposed to the financial crisis through its GE Capital lending branch. That same branch helped with outsized profits before the crash, but it weighed heavily on the company.

254 dragonath  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:51:52am
255 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:52:11am

re: #197 lawhawk

And F-15s to Saudi Arabia.

And before that, we were giving gear to the Iranians under the Shah, including F-14s (a few of which may still be operable in the Iranian Air Force such as it is now).

I’ve read that they have kept one or two running based on cannibalizing the rest and the spares that Reagan sold them. They use them as AWACS as they have the longest ranged radars that Iran owns.

That was a couple of years ago though.

256 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:53:18am
257 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:57:15am

re: #255 William Barnett-Lewis

I’ve seen similar reports - that they simply don’t have the parts to keep them aloft and that cannibalizing parts has its limits - gear wears out over time, and even the US eventually decommissioned the F-14 over cost/complexity compared to the F-18.

But it’s also telling that they’ve had decades to study the F-14 and take them apart, and yet they can’t manufacture gear to replace the parts as they wear. That informs on their other capabilities too. It could be a combination of lack of materials, manufacturing equipment, or inability to reverse-engineer, or all of the above.

258 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:04:55am

re: #256 Gus

Jonathan Watkins told the Chicago Sun-Times Tuesday that he has no idea who opened fire on him and his child, but sources told the paper that the shooting may have been prompted by an angry Facebook post.

Jonylah’s mother, Judy Watkins, was previously shot while carrying the child. She was working at McDonald’s at the time of the Monday shooting, according to the Tribune. Judy and Jonathan had recently gotten married.

That’s really fucked up.

259 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:05:26am

re: #195 NJDhockeyfan

Dennis Rodman plans to meet the new pope

LOL!

So which nation will the Vatican rescind an armistice with following Rodman’s visit? Or perhaps a Swiss Guard led led attempt to take over Italy?
//

260 iossarian  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:07:49am

re: #258 Killgore Trout

That’s really fucked up.

Maybe he was in a gang?

Then it would be OK.

261 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:08:50am

re: #256 Gus

Clearly, that little baby should have had an AR-15 to protect herself.

///

262 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:09:52am

Oh brother.

Let Another Nation Declare War for U.S. — Seriously?

Derp.

simple resolution - Designated “S. Res.,” simple resolutions are used to express nonbinding positions of the Senate or to deal with the Senate’s internal affairs, such as the creation of a special committee. They do not require action by the House of Representatives.

S.RES.65.IS

263 iossarian  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:10:14am

re: #260 iossarian

Maybe he was in a gang?

Then it would be OK.

Aha! From the article:

Police say he has known gang affiliations.

264 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:10:38am

DERP.

265 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:12:10am

Just as bad as the Agenda 21 BS.

266 Bulworth  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:12:35am

re: #264 Vicious Babushka

DERP.

So, what’s the deal with these tcot hashtags? I mean, are we supposed to be afraid of these guys?

267 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:12:47am

re: #264 Vicious Babushka

DERP.

Leave it to a dumb cracker to take Malcolm X’s “ballots or bullets” and adopt it as a war cry.

268 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:14:04am

re: #266 Bulworth

So, what’s the deal with these tcot hashtags? I mean, are we supposed to be afraid of these guys?

I looked at TCOT once. It’s just a bunch of spam and pr0nbots.

269 iossarian  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:15:55am

By ballots, bullets, or the combination of styled facial hair, combat fatigues and a certain avoirdupois, restoration is coming.

270 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:16:29am

re: #262 Gus

(7) declares that the United States has a vital national interest in, and unbreakable commitment to, ensuring the existence, survival, and security of the State of Israel, and reaffirms United States support for Israel’s right to self-defense; and
(8) urges that, if the Government of Israel is compelled to take military action in self-defense, the United States Government should stand with Israel and provide diplomatic, military, and economic support to the Government of Israel in its defense of its territory, people, and existence.

Key graf:

EC. 2. RULES OF CONSTRUCTION.

Nothing in this resolution shall be construed as an authorization for the use of force or a declaration of war.

271 Bulworth  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:16:37am

re: #268 Vicious Babushka

Seinfeld on cereals: So what’s the deal with Count Chocula? I mean, are we supposed to be afraid of this guy?

272 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:17:54am

re: #270 lawhawk

Key graf:

Thanks. Seriously. So many people working themselves up into a frenzy over a resolution. I stopped reading when I got to the word, resolution. Yeesh.

273 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:18:02am

THEY WAZ JRRB CREATERZ!!!1111!!!

(Link goes to some Ayn Rand fanblog)
They robbed workers of their pay and lived like barons, that’s why they earned the nickname “Robber Barons”

274 jaunte  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:19:33am

re: #273 Vicious Babushka

Plutocrats: Neither Disney Characters, Nor ‘Crats.

275 iossarian  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:20:48am

re: #274 jaunte

Plutocrats: Neither Disney Characters, Nor ‘Crats.

The filthy rich: actually quite well-scrubbed.

276 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:21:06am

re: #273 Vicious Babushka

(Link goes to some Ayn Rand fanblog)

I watched that series on History Channel a few months back, The Men Who Built America. And even it had no problem admitting that Vanderbuilt, Rockefeller, and Carnegie exploited their workers where they could and did whatever it took to make their fortunes. Any that think otherwise need to look up the Homestead Strike.

277 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:22:55am

re: #276 Targetpractice

I watched that series on History Channel a few months back, The Men Who Built America. And even it had no problem admitting that Vanderbuilt, Rockefeller, and Carnegie exploited their workers where they could and did whatever it took to make their fortunes. Any that think otherwise need to look up the Homestead Strike.

There’s a Cracked.com article “6 Most Horrific Bosses” which describes how they treated the people who worked for them (left them to die in a fire, made them work with toxic chemicals that rotted their faces, etc.) Cracked is firewalled here but you can Google it.

278 Bulworth  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:24:28am

re: #273 Vicious Babushka


THEY WAZ JRRB CREATERZ!!!1111!!!

(Link goes to some Ayn Rand fanblog)
They robbed workers of their pay and lived like barons, that’s why they earned the nickname “Robber Barons”

Their no good lazy workers stold from the job creatorz! //

279 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:25:11am

re: #278 Bulworth

(Link goes to some Ayn Rand fanblog)
They robbed workers of their pay and lived like barons, that’s why they earned the nickname “Robber Barons”

Their no good lazy workers stold from the job creatorz! //

YOONYUNZ!!111!!!!

280 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:25:45am

re: #251 William Barnett-Lewis

That’s interesting. What model does he make (since I know of no Shiplord Kirel Model)? When things calm down my wife is interested in a 1911 and I’d like to get her a good one when I can afford to.

He makes the basic M1911A-1 model, but with the addition of the original’s double diamond grips. Any degree of customization can be ordered. He is especially good with accurized barrels and custom trigger groups. Mine is a regular A-1 with some gold inlay engraving and faux ivory grips. This was inspired by the Japanese general’s presentation pistol in Letters from Iwo Jima but the artwork is quite a bit different.

281 Charles Johnson  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:28:30am

This morning I posted this tweet:

And I immediately got replies from right wingers denying there was any racism in that hashtag thread.

282 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:28:31am

re: #275 iossarian

The filthy rich: actually quite well-scrubbed.

I remember Uncle Scrooge McDuck’s lament when he lost his money (temporarily as it turned out):
“I used to be filthy rich, now I live in a filthy ditch.”

283 jaunte  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:29:04am

re: #273 Vicious Babushka

While his brother Frank fought in the Civil War, Rockefeller tended his business and hired substitute soldiers. He gave money to the Union cause, as did many rich Northerners who avoided combat. [Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

Establishing a long-honored robber-baron tradition of getting the poor people to go fight the wars for you, while you stay home and get richer.

284 dragonath  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:30:11am

re: #277 Vicious Babushka

Frick was a character aaaaaand I see he’s on the Cracked list too.

285 iossarian  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:30:50am

re: #283 jaunte

Establishing a long-honored robber-baron tradition of getting the poor people to go fight the wars for you, while you stay home and get richer.

You fasten all the triggers
For the others to fire
Then you set back and watch
When the death count gets higher
You hide in your mansion’
As young people’s blood
Flows out of their bodies
And is buried in the mud.

— Bob Dylan

286 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:30:53am

re: #281 Charles Johnson

This morning I posted this tweet:

And I immediately got replies from right wingers denying there was any racism in that hashtag thread.

WE’RE JUST ASKIN’ QUESTIONS!111!!

287 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:34:31am

re: #281 Charles Johnson

This morning I posted this tweet:

And I immediately got replies from right wingers denying there was any racism in that hashtag thread.

They were still Derping on #askFLOTUS last night and I added a bunch of sickening Tweets to the bottom of that thread.

288 Charles Johnson  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:37:37am
289 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:38:42am

re: #288 Charles Johnson

None so blind and all that.

What a pathetic group of people.

290 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:38:58am

re: #287 Vicious Babushka

They were still Derping on #askFLOTUS last night and I added a bunch of sickening Tweets to the bottom of that thread.

Do you think it would be worth Michelle’s time to write an intelligent, thoughtful response to those people (by which I mean not answering their questions but something more along the lines of addressing racism in America and the like).

291 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:39:22am

re: #290 Eclectic Cyborg

Do you think it would be worth Michelle’s time to write an intelligent, thoughtful response to those people (by which I mean not answering their questions but something more along the lines of addressing racism in America and the like).

No.

292 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:39:33am

Conservative logic 101: If it doesn’t include the N-word, it’s not racist.

/ (half)

293 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:40:40am

Ahmadinejad Under Fire For Hugging Chavez’s Mother

Senior Iranian clerics have scolded President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for consoling Hugo Chavez’s mother with a hug — a physical contact considered a sin under Iran’s strict Islamic codes.

The rebuke follows a widely published photo showing Ahmadinejad embracing Chavez’s mother at the funeral of the late Venezuelan president in what is seen as taboo-breaking behavior in Iran.

Iranian papers on Tuesday cited clerics from the religious center of Qom who described the hug as “forbidden,” inappropriate behavior and “clowning around.”

Iran’s strict Islamic codes prohibit physical contact between unrelated members of the opposite sex.

294 Charles Johnson  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:41:12am
295 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:41:12am

re: #288 Charles Johnson

Even if you discount the Tweets posted by the “Teen Twins” that was plenty of racist feces in the selection on yesterday’s thread. They are archived for all posterity, even if Twitter deletes them.

296 jaunte  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:42:25am

re: #288 Charles Johnson

I guess they all missed those ‘Teens Against Obama” tweets.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

297 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:49:41am

re: #280 Shiplord Kirel

He makes the basic M1911A-1 model, but with the addition of the original’s double diamond grips. Any degree of customization can be ordered. He is especially good with accurized barrels and custom trigger groups. Mine is a regular A-1 with some gold inlay engraving and faux ivory grips. This was inspired by the Japanese general’s presentation pistol in Letters from Iwo Jima but the artwork is quite a bit different.

My nic should be blue with my email. If you could send me contact info, I’d appreciate it.

298 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:49:59am
299 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:51:52am

re: #298 Vicious Babushka

RACISM.
RACISM.
RACISM.
RACISM.
RACISM.
RACISM.

But they don’t use the N word, so its all cool.
/

300 dragonath  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:52:11am

re: #296 jaunte

I guess they all missed those ‘Teens Against Obama” tweets.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

I know this is old, but I wonder if this is referring to the same “Teens Against Obama”.

301 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:52:25am

re: #294 Charles Johnson


More here.

Also.


302 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:52:40am

re: #299 Kragar (Antichrist )

But they don’t use the N word, so its all cool.
/

I didn’t even count all the YOUR FAT! YOUR UGLY! YOUR A COMMUNIST!

303 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:56:07am
304 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:56:55am
305 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:57:29am
306 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:58:04am

DERP

307 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:58:56am

Nugent claims to have killed 455 pigs with machine gun ‘for Bill Maher’

“I took my machine gun in the helicopter — in the Texas hill country – me and my buddy ‘Pigman’ … his name is ‘Pigman’ – I’m the swine czar,” said Nugent. “I killed 455 hogs with my machine gun. i did it for Bill Maher and all those other animal rights freaks out there.”

Boasting that the weapon he used fired 750 rounds a minute, the right-wing provocateur said, “My haters will hate me more for that.”

According to the Associated Press, the state of Texas awards prize money during an annual three-month event in which hunters are urged to kill as many feral pigs as they can. The animals have bred out of control in the Texas wilderness and cause millions of dollars in crop and property damage every year.

“We saved the environment from the destruction of these out-of-control pigs,” said the Michigan-born rocker, “and I’m not talking about Washington D.C. or San Francisco … I’m actually talking about actual pigs.”

308 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:02:05am

3 minutes ago:

309 dragonath  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:02:24am

re: #307 Kragar (Antichrist )

From the MSU website:

Introduction of the Eurasian Wild Boar

In the early 1900’s, Eurasian or Russian wild boar were introduced into portions of the United States.

Additional introductions and escapes of Eurasian wild boar from privately owned, “game-proof” fenced hunting preserves have continued through the present.

310 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:02:44am
311 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:03:20am
312 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:03:47am
313 iossarian  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:09:23am

re: #308 Vicious Babushka

3 minutes ago:

Well, Mike, the reason you’re not doing so well on $50K is that right-wing economic policy has redirected the benefits of productivity gains to the wealthy, while cutting support for programs, such as cheap state-provided higher education, from which you and your family would have benefited in the past.

It may also benefit you to realize that the capital-owning class has got away with this economic program by portraying a relatively powerless unemployed underclass as the cause of your problems (harnessing latent race-based antagonism towards this effort) in order to distract you from their success in capturing an increased share of your labor output.

Does that answer your question?

314 kirkspencer  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:09:42am

re: #306 Gus

DERP

Now this one is particularly full of stupid and lies.

Whitney Houston did not get a half-mast flag pronouncement from the white house.
The four at Benghazi, to include Chris Kyle, did.
And has been shown over and over, DHS is not buying 2700 tanks. Nor are they buying 2700 MRAPs.

315 palomino  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:10:10am

re: #308 Vicious Babushka

3 minutes ago:

Why do people making 50k a year think people on welfare live better than they do? This is an urban legend that’s been around for decades. It’s bullshit.

The few folks I’ve known on welfare hardly lived large. And when you take a look at average welfare payments, it’s hard to imagine most recipients living very well in material terms.

316 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:11:23am

re: #315 palomino

Why do people making 50k a year think people on welfare live better than they do? This is an urban legend that’s been around for decades. It’s bullshit.

The few folks I’ve known on welfare hardly lived large. And when you take a look at average welfare payments, it’s hard to imagine most recipients living very well in material terms.

I was unemployed for 6 years during the Bush administration. It sucked. In 2010 I got a job paying 48K/yr, I thought I won the lottery!

317 Bulworth  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:11:32am
why do people on welfare live better than I do with my 50k/yr job?

Because you’re spending all your money on p0rn and gunz?
/

318 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:11:33am
319 AlexRogan  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:11:46am

re: #314 kirkspencer

Now this one is particularly full of stupid and lies.

Whitney Houston did not get a half-mast flag pronouncement from the white house.
The four at Benghazi, to include Chris Kyle, did.
And has been shown over and over, DHS is not buying 2700 tanks. Nor are they buying 2700 MRAPs.

Wrong on that point, Kirk; the Marines bought them (via the Navy), not DHS.

The DHS has 16-17 of them, bought a few years ago.

320 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:12:08am

Twitterlanche for the askFLOTUS article.

321 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:13:04am

Vanguard just sent me an email titled “Be happier living with less”. Maybe they’re trying to tell me something.

O_o

322 kirkspencer  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:13:51am

re: #313 iossarian

I’d add to this the challenge of actually finding someone on welfare with whom to compare your situation instead of taking a “he says” approach. Go find out exactly what the requirements are, and what reliefs you get, and see if maybe you aren’t better off at $50000 per year.

I would, if I had that income instead of welfare.

323 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:13:57am
324 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:15:00am
325 Bulworth  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:15:18am

re: #318 Gus

More “not racism”:

#AskFLOTUS What was it like working w/Redd Foxx on Sanford & Son playing Aunt Esther? “You old fish eyed fool.”
— kuji kiri (@jigoku_aisatsu) March 11, 2013

326 kirkspencer  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:15:41am

re: #319 AlexRogan

Wrong on that point, Kirk; the Marines bought them (via the Navy), not DHS.

The DHS has 16-17 of them, bought a few years ago.

You might want to re-read what I said.

327 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:15:45am
328 Bulworth  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:15:52am

re: #324 Vicious Babushka

And still more “not-racism”…

//

329 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:16:00am

Klayman: Obama Doesn’t Like Jews, the Rich, People of Faith, or White People

Klayman: I’m frightened for this country. I really [am.] I don’t feel that he represents the majority of Americans. I have a Jewish background, Alan, like you do and what I’ve seen in the last four years is someone who has a disdain, I believe, for Jewish people and Israel.

Colmes: Why did he have a Jewish Chief of Staff, Rahm Emanuel? Why does he have so many Jewish advisers? It doesn’t make any sense.

Klayman: This is a bad analogy and I’ll take it a little too far. Many times throughout history, Jewish people have been their own worst enemy. I mean, we had Karl Marx. We had people who were in and around Adolf Hitler even … The fact that these people are around him, they are just simply cover.

The references to rich people, the constant ‘we’ve got to pay our fair share,’ it’s kind of like we’re talking about reparations. It does lead one to think - and we should be allowed to talk about it too; you know, white people should be able to raise these issues just like black people legitimately raised them over the years in terms of racism - is I believe this guy has a tinge of racism towards whites and he wants to pay reparations. I don’t believe that he likes Jewish people … I don’t think he likes people of faith.

330 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:16:18am
rac·ism [rey-siz-uhm]
noun

1.
a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one’s own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2.
a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3.
hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
331 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:17:21am
332 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:17:42am

1087 Tweets.

333 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:17:51am

re: #324 Vicious Babushka

“Oder now”

Can’t they ever come up with something that has no misspellings?

334 Bulworth  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:18:11am
Klayman: I’m frightened for this country. I really [am.] I don’t feel that he represents the majority of Americans.

Although, strangely, PBO did receive a majority of votes in November.

335 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:18:17am
336 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:18:43am
337 Bulworth  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:18:51am

re: #331 Vicious Babushka

Still more “not-racist” tweets. /

338 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:19:04am
339 iossarian  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:19:26am

re: #322 kirkspencer

I’d add to this the challenge of actually finding someone on welfare with whom to compare your situation instead of taking a “he says” approach. Go find out exactly what the requirements are, and what reliefs you get, and see if maybe you aren’t better off at $50000 per year.

I would, if I had that income instead of welfare.

It’s a transparently false claim that $50K a year is “worse off” than welfare. If it were, why not quit your job? Rational economic decisions and all that.

340 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:19:42am
341 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:19:52am

Heh.

342 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:19:56am

Glenn Beck’s The Blaze To Premiere Investigative Program

The Blaze, Glenn Beck’s TV network, on Wednesday is set to premiere an investigative news magazine program called “For the Record,” BuzzFeed reported Tuesday.

The show is inspired by “60 Minutes,” and the first episode will focus on the state of the intelligence community after Sept. 11, 2001. According to BuzzFeed’s report, the program is an effort to establish a reputation of credible reporting on the conservative news network.

No, not the Onion.

343 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:20:21am

re: #340 Vicious Babushka

344 jaunte  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:20:24am

The white-hot stink of frustrated privilege.

345 kirkspencer  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:20:35am

re: #335 Vicious Babushka

re: #336 Vicious Babushka

I get the impression both of these are meant to be sarcastic digs at the idiots using the tags. Could be wrong given some of the real posts. But that tag of “just trying to fit in with the others using this hashtag” remark smacks of it.

346 dragonath  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:20:44am

re: #318 Gus

Yeah, I looked at the timeline of that account. Did you know SXSW is a LIBERAL POT SMOKE FESTIVAL OF SODOMY?

Whatever. Let that divided house fall in on itself. Conservatives are using twitter as a distraction. There is nothing constructive to be gained by it.

347 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:21:49am

TEH TWITTER IS BROKE.

348 Bulworth  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:21:55am

re: #329 Kragar (Antichrist )

I guess Klayman didn’t care much when Mittens and the GOP disaparaged 47% of Americans as “takers”, just wanting “free stuff”. For wingnuts class-warfare only goes in one direction.

349 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:22:45am

re: #345 kirkspencer

re: #336 Vicious Babushka

I get the impression both of these are meant to be sarcastic digs at the idiots using the tags. Could be wrong given some of the real posts. But that tag of “just trying to fit in with the others using this hashtag” remark smacks of it.

You can usually tell if an account is parody by looking at the followers (or lack).

350 Interesting Times  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:23:33am

Is this true? Seems too good to be :(

351 Charles Johnson  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:24:52am

Markos Moulitsas just retweeted the #askFLOTUS post. Did you ever think you’d be recommended by Kos, Alouette?

352 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:25:31am

re: #351 Charles Johnson

Markos Moulitsas just retweeted the #askFLOTUS post. Did you ever think you’d be recommended by Kos, Alouette?

I hope I can get some more followers! :)

353 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:25:43am

Beck: Rand Paul filibuster was ‘the birth’ of the Tea Party

Conservative host Glenn Beck described Sen. Rand Paul’s (R-KY) March 6 filibuster on Monday in terms seemingly resembling those of a mother carrying a pregnancy to term.

“A historic movement has begun,” he intoned. “You were here to hear the heartbeat when the Tea Party started. And last week, you witnessed the birth.”

According to Right Wing Watch, Beck said the 13-hour filibuster would spark a “global freedom movement” that would soon spread across the political board.

“What started out last week with Rand Paul, in the end, will take the school boards, the city council and elect state representatives that people can trust, and then it will take seats in the House and the Senate,” Beck said. “And it will eventually claim the White House.”

354 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:25:51am

re: #350 Interesting Times

Is this true? Seems too good to be :(

Nope. Tweetdeck will do that though.

355 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:26:16am

re: #351 Charles Johnson

Markos Moulitsas just retweeted the #askFLOTUS post. Did you ever think you’d be recommended by Kos, Alouette?

DOGS AND CATS LIVING TOGETHER! MASS HYSTERIA!

356 Charles Johnson  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:26:23am

re: #350 Interesting Times

Is this true? Seems too good to be :(

It’s true, they’re improving the block feature. However, it’s still possible to see tweets from people you’ve blocked, in searches and sometimes in replies.

357 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:27:00am

re: #353 Kragar (Antichrist )

I think there was a birth, a rebirth, and an afterbirth involving the Tea Party.

It most certainly wasn’t the birth, or else I’d like to get the last couple of years back on posting about the Tea Party.

358 Charles Johnson  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:27:08am

re: #354 Gus

Nope. Tweetdeck will do that though.

Yes, Tweetdeck’s global filter is the best solution to make stalkers and haters go away.

359 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:27:15am

re: #351 Charles Johnson

Markos Moulitsas just retweeted the #askFLOTUS post. Did you ever think you’d be recommended by Kos, Alouette?

Hey, have an idea for an edit on that page. Maybe add a comment on the bottom that say, “Click on comments to see more vile Tweets.” Something like that.

360 Interesting Times  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:28:21am

re: #356 Charles Johnson

It’s true, they’re improving the block feature. However, it’s still possible to see tweets from people you’ve blocked, in searches and sometimes in replies.

By the way, I saw that tweet because it was RT’d by Soledad O’Brien (who, thanks to breitbart scum, would need to make constant use of such a feature)

361 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:29:01am

DERP. Does he even know how the Queen of England lives? Or the King of Saudi?

362 Interesting Times  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:31:28am
363 Bulworth  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:32:40am

re: #361 Vicious Babushka

And PBO’s life in the WH is different from every preceding prez exactly how?

364 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:32:53am

DERP

365 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:33:50am

re: #363 Bulworth

And PBO’s life in the WH is different from every preceding prez exactly how?

He’s black.

366 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:34:13am

re: #363 Bulworth

And PBO’s life in the WH is different from every preceding prez exactly how?

LITWHWBB

367 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:34:27am
368 jaunte  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:36:03am

re: #367 Gus

Oh nice, blackface in a zombie disguise.

369 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:36:33am

re: #367 Gus

I’d go, but I’m already booked to see the Sarah Palin lookalike wet T-Shirt contest.
/

370 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:37:35am

DERP
Imagine the howls of Outrageous Outrage if he visited a Muslim country during Ramadan and refrained from eating in public during the day.

371 iossarian  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:37:43am

re: #368 jaunte

Oh nice, blackface in a zombie disguise.

Satire.

372 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:38:17am

DERP.

373 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:38:19am
374 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:38:44am

re: #368 jaunte

Oh nice, blackface in a zombie disguise.

Tweet that. Maybe in response to my Tweet.

375 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:39:04am

DERP

376 dragonath  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:39:19am

Can’t wait until someone cosplays as Buckley.

377 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:39:57am

BTW “Room 101” and “Voting Female” both blocked me for correcting their Fake Quotes. Wingnuts sure does love them some Fake Quotes.

378 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:44:09am

re: #377 Vicious Babushka

BTW “Room 101” and “Voting Female” both blocked me for correcting their Fake Quotes. Wingnuts sure does love them some Fake Quotes.

“Its easier to fake quotes than actually do research” - Stephen Glass

379 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:44:39am

DERP

380 Bulworth  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:45:02am

re: #373 Gus

It’s just like at the Liberal Action Conference each year where a whole bunch of libtards dress up as Sarah Palin. You mean there isn’t a liberal conference like the idiotic conservative conference? //

381 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:45:12am

“I never said any of that stupid shit that is attributed to me on the Internet.”—George Washington.

382 dragonath  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:45:48am

re: #373 Gus

Whee! Shutterstock zombies!

383 dragonath  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:47:27am

So are there going to be any pictures of this event?

384 iossarian  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:47:53am

re: #383 dragonath

So are there going to be any pictures of this event?

Oh, I hope so.

385 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:47:56am

re: #381 Vicious Babushka

“I never said any of that stupid shit that is attributed to me on the Internet.”—George Washington.

“I feel you, Bro. I know exactly what you mean.” - Jesus.

386 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:49:04am

Black smoke!

387 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:49:10am

My second and LAST Pages Post for the day.

This is probably the most the scariest topic I’ve encountered all year. Literally equal with the War on Women

388 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:49:18am

re: #385 Kragar (Antichrist )

“I feel you, Bro. I know exactly what you mean.” - Jesus.

“Stop whining, have a glass of cider, and get on with it.”
- John Adams

389 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:50:31am

re: #372 Vicious Babushka

DERP.

I think her physique and activity level prove her diet.

Mom dance anyone?

390 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:50:39am

Black Smoke hasn’t looked this good since the Island. /

391 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:52:08am

re: #355 Kragar (Antichrist )

DOGS AND CATS LIVING TOGETHER! MASS HYSTERIA!

In my house, dogs and Cat live together in complete harmony as directed by the Feline.

I must live within a black hole.

392 Lidane  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:52:19am

re: #390 lawhawk

Black Smoke hasn’t looked this good since the Island. /

393 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:53:11am

How is everyone today?

394 Lidane  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:53:32am

BTW, if anyone wants a mental health break from all the derp and fail on the right, the new David Bowie album is streaming on Spotify.

Ziggy it ain’t, but I like it. :D

395 dragonath  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:54:33am
Each living dead attendee will also get a “mingle stick,” which holds all of his or her contact information and can be tapped with another mingle stick to get someone else’s information, “somebody that YOU want to survive with in the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy,” the invite cautions.

Whoa. Hillary Clinton quotes from more than 20 years ago. Now that’s Zombie.

396 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:56:59am

Taking Bo For a Walk

Presidental Dog pics

397 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:57:28am

re: #351 Charles Johnson

Markos Moulitsas just retweeted the #askFLOTUS post. Did you ever think you’d be recommended by Kos, Alouette?

Currently an ironic referrer from Hugh Hewitt.

398 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:57:28am

IRS revokes ‘Pray away gay’ group’s tax-exempt status

On Monday, the IRS notified the public that it has revoked The National Association for the Research and Therapy of Homosexuality’s (NARTH) tax-exempt status for failure to file proper forms for three consecutive years, according to psychology professor Warren Throckmorton, who focuses on sexual identity, religion and public policy.

While NARTH “respect[s] the right of all individuals to choose their own destiny,” the group — like similar ones across the country — believes that being gay is purely a choice. NARTH, according to its website, is a “professional, scientific organization that offers hope to those who struggle with unwanted homosexuality” disseminating “educational information, conduct and collect scientific research, promote effective therapeutic treatment, and provide referrals to those who seek our assistance.”

399 Bulworth  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:58:28am

re: #396 FemNaziBitch

Taking Bo For a Walk

Presidental Dog pics

Cue the wingnut outrage….

400 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:58:41am

re: #392 Lidane

Ah, is the Archbishop of Memphis in the conclave?

401 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:58:59am

re: #399 Bulworth

Cue the wingnut outrage….

THE PICTURE TAKING OF BO MUST BE STOPPED!&($))

402 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:59:49am

re: #401 Gus

THE PICTURE TAKING OF BO MUST BE STOPPED!&($))

HOW MUCH IS THIS COSTING TEH TAXPAYERS!!!11111

403 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:00:14pm

re: #308 Vicious Babushka

3 minutes ago:

#askflotus why do people on welfare live better than I do with my 50k/yr job?
— Mike (@TPCMike) March 12, 2013

Better money management skills? Better math skills? Am I getting close yet Mike?

404 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:00:20pm

Has one of them complained yet at the very idea of the First family having a dog yet?

405 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:00:54pm

re: #402 Vicious Babushka

THIS IS COSTING THE TAX PAYER 30 BILLION BILLION DOALLAR PER YEAR!)(*%)^#%(^ REMEMBER BENGHAZI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

406 dragonath  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:00:59pm

re: #400 FriendsofHummus

Ah, is the Archbishop of Memphis in the conclave?

I’m pulling for the Archbishop of Kansas City, myself…

407 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:01:42pm

JOHN KERRY HAS A PURPLE HEART

408 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:01:47pm

re: #406 dragonath

I’m pulling for the Archbishop of Kansas City, myself…

Yes, he’d be good too.

409 kirkspencer  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:02:19pm

re: #398 Kragar (Antichrist )

IRS revokes ‘Pray away gay’ group’s tax-exempt status

One of the things the IRS has been careful about - arguably too careful - is treading on “religious” exemptions. The most common reason for an organization losing such an exemption is the one listed here: failure to file the paperwork for multiple sequential years.

The IRS is even nice enough each year to send you a warning letter that you forgot to file and need to correct the issue.

But you know everyone will go on about the religious aspect, ignoring the fact it’s really just a case of paying the price for being stupid.

410 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:02:33pm

re: #407 Vicious Babushka

JOHN KERRY HAS A PURPLE HEART

Mocking Kerry was different, he’s a Democrat.//

411 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:02:38pm

Maybe I should change my name to Dgus. The “d” is silent.

412 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:03:33pm

re: #410 FriendsofHummus

Mocking Kerry was different, he’s a Democrat.//

I totally remember FReepers in 2004 posting cute little graphics of Purple Heart band aids.

413 Bulworth  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:03:49pm

re: #407 Vicious Babushka

JOHN KERRY HAS A PURPLE HEART

Did this guy watch the 2004 GOP convention?

414 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:03:56pm

re: #402 Vicious Babushka

I tried to find a section for Bo, like Barney had, but couldn’t find one.

415 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:04:22pm

re: #412 Vicious Babushka

I totally remember FReepers in 2004 posting cute little graphics of Purple Heart band aids.

Shit, someone at the RNC handed out band-aids mocking it.

416 iossarian  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:04:32pm

Support our troops! Except if they are Democrats! Then, insult them and question their loyalty!

417 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:04:55pm

re: #413 Bulworth

Did this guy watch the 2004 GOP convention?

She looks young so I can forgive her for not remembering that in specific.

418 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:05:21pm

re: #413 Bulworth

Did this guy watch the 2004 GOP convention?

I think it was, like, 8 years old at the time.

419 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:05:52pm

If prisoners were included in statistics, in Chicago alone, 80% of black men would be counted as disenfranchised.

That a huge waste of human resources, IMHO.

420 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:06:29pm

re: #412 Vicious Babushka

I totally remember FReepers in 2004 posting cute little graphics of Purple Heart band aids.

Right here.

421 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:06:30pm

DERP

422 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:06:45pm

Of course, let’s not forget Joe Walsh belittling Tammy Duckworth.

423 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:08:31pm

So, on fb, if someone is no longer listed in your “friends” list, but other people who are friends with that person, are constantly being suggested to you to friend, and listed as having that friend in common, what does that mean?

The person unfriended me, or hid me, or what?

424 Bulworth  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:08:45pm

re: #418 Vicious Babushka

Hopefully Red in a Blue can read up on it sometime….

425 Lidane  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:10:03pm

re: #422 FriendsofHummus

Of course, let’s not forget Joe Walsh belittling Tammy Duckworth.

Or Saxby Chambliss and his campaign against Max Cleland.

426 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:10:12pm

re: #423 FemNaziBitch

So, on fb, if someone is no longer listed in your “friends” list, but other people who are friends with that person, are constantly being suggested to you to friend, and listed as having that friend in common, what does that mean?

The person unfriended me, or hid me, or what?

Means since you are no longer friends with them but still have friends in common that it counts you as a mutual friend and suggests that you ad. It from what I understand is random programming and won’t take into account things like friend removing.

427 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:10:24pm
428 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:10:30pm

re: #425 Lidane

Or Saxby Chambliss and his campaign against Max Cleland.

Yep.

429 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:11:44pm

re: #427 Vicious Babushka

WTFF?

Image: Reagan-71810582744.jpeg

431 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:12:41pm

re: #429 Gus

Image: Reagan-71810582744.jpeg

I guess that’s ok BECAUSE HE WAS A TRUE PATRIOT. He also wiped his mouth on the flag.

432 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:13:38pm

re: #429 Gus

Image: Reagan-71810582744.jpeg

See, it’s Reagan so it’s okay. Shit I could careless. If you’re so butt hurt that you can’t handle an American president’s face on the flag, then you’re really immature and I’d say that about a president I don’t like such as Reagan.

433 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:14:53pm

Now we know where all those Fake Quotes come from.

434 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:14:54pm

Gets me thinking about how crazy the wingnuts would go if Iran-Contra happened in this president’s term. They’d use it to confirm all their paranoid fantasies about secret Muslims.

435 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:14:57pm

Prophetic?

I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.

436 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:15:03pm

re: #427 Vicious Babushka

WTFF?

You do apparently make shitty looking shirts and jackets with it though.

437 dragonath  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:15:16pm

re: #427 Vicious Babushka

Image: BeckFlag.png

438 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:15:24pm

re: #426 FriendsofHummus

Means since you are no longer friends with them but still have friends in common that it counts you as a mutual friend and suggests that you ad. It from what I understand is random programming and won’t take into account things like friend removing.

ah, I obviously offended another bigot.

439 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:17:02pm

STAY CLASSY WINGNUTS

440 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:17:08pm

Nancy Reagan and POTUS Obama

pic #17, I can’t seem to get it to stop scrolling thru and settle on just that pic —GUS!!!!

441 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:18:06pm

re: #440 FemNaziBitch

Nancy Reagan and POTUS Obama

He’s oppressing her.//

442 Stanley Sea  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:18:08pm

re: #433 Vicious Babushka

Now we know where all those Fake Quotes come from.

Lol, such idjits.

Goggle it?

443 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:19:08pm

re: #439 Vicious Babushka

STAY CLASSY WINGNUTS

Attention Whore? What does that make Rand Paul or Glenn Beck? Attention Bukkake Gangbang pros?

444 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:19:39pm

re: #443 Kragar (Antichrist )

Attention Whore? What does that make Rand Paul or Glenn Beck? Attention Bukkake Gangbang pros?

Trying to keep from LOL here.

445 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:19:59pm

re: #443 Kragar (Antichrist )

Attention Whore? What does that make Rand Paul or Glenn Beck? Attention Bukkake Gangbang pros?

Seriously calling Kelly an attention whore but STANDING WITH RAND or buying the crybaby’s bullshit.

446 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:20:06pm

re: #440 FemNaziBitch

Nancy Reagan and POTUS Obama

Nancy Reagan, President Obama, and an American flag.

Alouette! Tweet that image to TGDN. :D

447 dragonath  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:20:42pm

re: #442 Stanley Sea

I think if you’re writing Madison quotes in the shitter, you’ve already been goggling. All night.

448 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:20:59pm
449 iossarian  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:21:54pm

re: #448 Gus

Image: Obama-Nancy-Reagan-8-10-10.jpg

That’s taken right before he mugged her and stole her jewelry.

450 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:22:00pm

re: #447 dragonath

I think if you’re writing Madison quotes in the shitter, you’ve already been goggling. All night.

Would Patrick Henry, after a bad burrito, be writing “Give me Pepto, or give me Death!” on the side of the stall?
;)

451 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:23:32pm

re: #450 Feline Fearless Leader

Would Patrick Henry, after a bad burrito, be writing “Give me Pepto, or give me Death!” on the side of the stall?
;)

I’d be more worried about a GOP congressman reaching up under the side of the stall.

452 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:24:10pm

re: #446 Gus

Nancy Reagan, President Obama, and an American flag.

Alouette! Tweet that image to TGDN. :D

I never really considered Nancy a super attractive women, but man, does she have eyes.

453 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:24:39pm

re: #451 Kragar (Antichrist )

I’d be more worried about a GOP congressman reaching up under the side of the stall.

while acting undercover on a stealth super sekrit operation for the CIA?

454 Lidane  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:27:18pm

This just made me laugh out loud at my desk:

455 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:28:22pm

I now know 3 people with broken ankles and casts because of the ice this year. I think it’s an Ice Conspiracy!

456 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:28:52pm

re: #454 Lidane

This just made me laugh out loud at my desk:

Would it produce white smoke or black smoke?

:0

457 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:35:57pm

re: #455 FemNaziBitch

I now know 3 people with broken ankles and casts because of the ice this year. I think it’s an Ice Conspiracy!

Does that include us Lizards?

458 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:40:59pm

re: #433 Vicious Babushka

Now we know where all those Fake Quotes come from.

Goggle it.

459 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:40:59pm

re: #457 Gus

Does that include us Lizards?

yes, you

460 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:41:36pm

re: #459 FemNaziBitch

yes, you

Ah, yeah. It sucks. Still sucks. Can’t wait for the weekend… 70s.

461 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:41:51pm

actually all 3 are internet friends, one for nearly 15 years!

what does that say about my life?


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