Right Wing Media Incites Hatred of Michelle Obama

Stoking the racism and rage
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As we noted yesterday, the Twitter topic started by First Lady Michelle Obama to discuss her fitness campaigns, #AskFLOTUS, was absolutely swarmed by conservatives tweeting horrifically hateful, sexist and racist “questions.”

The depth of the contempt and hatred would be shocking, except that it’s so incredibly common on the right. As we’ve documented many times, whenever an article about Michelle Obama appears at a right wing site, it provokes a deluge of vile comments.

One of the contributing factors to this disgusting mass hatred phenomenon is the tacit (and sometimes not so tacit) encouragement of this behavior by the right wing media.

At two very popular right wing propaganda websites today, we find an orgy of back-slapping and gloating over their “hijack” of the #AskFLOTUS topic; Michelle Malkin’s twitchy.com and Glenn Beck’s theblaze.com:

Boom! #AskFLOTUS Hashtag Hijack: Michelle Obama Asks for Questions; Happy Warriors Deliver | Twitchy

Backfire: 9 of the Top Hijacked Responses the #AskFlotus Fitness Campaign by Michelle Obama | TheBlaze.com

The comments at the Twitchy site are just chock full of racism and hatred, of course. But one of them caught my eye as a perfect candidate for the Wingnut Free Verse of the Day:

Press conference?

Naw,…
some uppity journalist might
ask her
about some of these questions
from her Happy Warriors
at Twitchy.

Flotus Mooche will
probably have her
$ 100,000/yr Royal Court Calligraphers
pen a pretty note and send it to Kim IL Duh
advising him
to let his malnourished NK children eat cake or lobster.

That ought to get our truce back in effect,
eh?

Remember,
SOS,
John “Gigolo” Kerry,
now says
we all have a Right to act
Stupidly,…

just like Bozo did
when he blamed the Cambridge Police
for busting
his resistant prof. pal,
Gates.

Jump to bottom

463 comments
1 iossarian  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:23:51pm

That poem is actually pretty good. I may try and track down the author to see if he or she will let me include it in my forthcoming tome of contemporary American verse.

2 leftynyc  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:24:39pm

And two members of the Supreme Court really believe there is no more racism. I honestly don’t know which is more pathetic - these morons who don’t think tweets can be traced or the judges who are supposed to have superior minds.

3 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:25:20pm
4 dragonath  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:26:15pm

tweet tweet
racist robin

yeah

5 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:26:37pm

“The happy warriors.” Never seen such miserable people.

6 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:29:06pm

re: #5 Gus

“The happy warriors.” Never seen such miserable people.

When your only joy comes from being a complete asshole, you’ve got some serious fucking mental problems.

7 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:30:32pm

Of course, if you even so much as criticize any right wing woman, you’re a liberal sexist hypocrite. But engaging in the antics on the FLOTUS’s twitter feed was exposing hypocrisy!

8 makeitstop  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:31:06pm

Do those ‘Happy Warriors’ have any idea who the nickname originated with? Probably not.

9 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:31:32pm

Speaking of serious mental problems…

FRC: No Right to Have Sex Outside of Marriage, Society Should ‘Punish It’

Family Research Council senior fellow Pat Fagan appeared alongside Tony Perkins, the head of FRC, on Washington Watch yesterday to discuss his article which claims that Eisenstadt v. Baird, the 1972 case that overturned a Massachusetts law banning the distribution of contraceptives to unmarried people, may rank “as the single most destructive decision in the history of the Court.”

Fagan argued that the Supreme Court decision was wrong because it effectively meant that “single people have the right to engage in sexual intercourse.” “Society never gave young people that right, functioning societies don’t do that, they stop it, they punish it, they corral people, they shame people, they do whatever,” Fagan said.

What bitter hateful nonsense.

10 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:31:46pm

re: #6 Kragar (Antichrist )

When your only joy comes from being a complete asshole, you’ve got some serious fucking mental problems.

You ever live in a bad neighborhood? I did for a few years when I was a kid. Some people are miserable and will actually go out of their way to be an asshole to you on a daily basis. Every, single, day. These people remind me of that.

11 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:32:57pm

re: #9 Kragar (Antichrist )

Speaking of serious mental problems…

FRC: No Right to Have Sex Outside of Marriage, Society Should ‘Punish It’

What bitter hateful nonsense.

What conservative nanny state policies. Seriously, if you think Eisenstadt is among the most destructive decisions the court has ever made, you really need to go out and get laid, or failing that, find some good whack off material.

12 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:32:59pm

re: #8 makeitstop

Do those ‘Happy Warriors’ have any idea who the nickname originated with? Probably not.

I don’t know that. Where?

13 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:33:20pm

re: #8 makeitstop

Do those ‘Happy Warriors’ have any idea who the nickname originated with? Probably not.

Admiral Nelson was who it was based on.

14 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:33:20pm
15 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:33:45pm

re: #12 The Ghost of a Flea

I don’t know that. Where?

Al Smith, 1928 Democratic nominee and a proud Wet. Hubert Humphrey also later got the moniker. My regular username is a tribute to both.

16 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:34:03pm

re: #13 Kragar (Antichrist )

Admiral Nelson was who it was based on.

Now that I did not know.

17 erik_t  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:34:33pm

re: #9 Kragar (Antichrist )

Speaking of serious mental problems…

FRC: No Right to Have Sex Outside of Marriage, Society Should ‘Punish It’

Fagan argued that the Supreme Court decision was wrong because it effectively meant that “single people have the right to engage in sexual intercourse.” “Society never gave young people that right, functioning societies don’t do that, they stop it, they punish it, they corral people, they shame people, they do whatever,” Fagan said.

In the very next statement, Fagan will ramble on about Ninth or Tenth Amendment something or other, because boo regulations and wooooo unenumerated rights are the bee’s knees.

I bet you a dollar.

18 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:34:44pm

Everything I heard regarding Bill and HIllary from the right-wingers is being recycled for this administration.

Now, the same people tell me that the Clintons weren’t that bad and even had some good points.

What will they say about the Obama’s in 15 years?

19 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:35:45pm

re: #16 FriendsofHummus

Now that I did not know.

And its from 1806.

Character of the Happy Warrior

20 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:36:08pm

re: #9 Kragar (Antichrist )

Speaking of serious mental problems…

FRC: No Right to Have Sex Outside of Marriage, Society Should ‘Punish It’

What bitter hateful nonsense.

Who are these “functioning societies” that supposedly have laws against sexy time outside the bonds of matrimony?

21 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:36:26pm

I’m fascinating about the insane “hyprocrisy” cries about what the POTUS/FLOTUS eat.

Because what is served at diplomatic events is indicative of personal preference and some inherent decadence, not the way that chefs have prepared for major social events in the White House, um, forever.

22 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:36:34pm

re: #18 FemNaziBitch

Everything I heard regarding Bill and HIllary from the right-wingers is being recycled for this administration.

Now, the same people tell me that the Clintons weren’t that bad and even had some good points.

What will they say about the Obama’s in 15 years?

That’s something I wonder about too. Seeing the same people who bashed the Clintons relentlessly now openly pine for Bill. And yeah we’ll see the same thing with Obama by the same people trashing him and Mrs. Obama now. It’s all cyclical nonsense.

23 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:36:51pm

re: #9 Kragar (Antichrist )

Speaking of serious mental problems…

FRC: No Right to Have Sex Outside of Marriage, Society Should ‘Punish It’

What bitter hateful nonsense.

I think the lady doth protest too much

24 Skip Intro  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:36:56pm
“Society never gave young people that right, functioning societies don’t do that, they stop it, they punish it, they corral people, they shame people, they do whatever,” Fagan said.

Dreaming of the good old days, eh Fagan?

Image: Stocks.gif

25 erik_t  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:37:05pm

re: #20 Targetpractice

Who are these “functioning societies” that supposedly have laws against sexy time outside the bonds of matrimony?

ZOMG SHARIA LAW

Er wait today it’s a good thing.

26 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:37:06pm

re: #19 Kragar (Antichrist )

And its from 1806.

Character of the Happy Warrior

Ah thanks.

27 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:37:40pm

re: #20 Targetpractice

Who are these “functioning societies” that supposedly have laws against sexy time outside the bonds of matrimony?

Everyone I can think of is an Islamic theocracy.

Every thing to these nutjobs is about punishment, fear, and shame.

28 EPR-radar  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:37:52pm

re: #2 leftynyc

And two members of the Supreme Court really believe there is no more racism. I honestly don’t know which is more pathetic - these morons who don’t think tweets can be traced or the judges who are supposed to have superior minds.

Scalia and Roberts have the minds to see why section 5 of the VRA is still needed. Their ideology gives them a justification for not caring.

29 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:38:36pm

re: #27 Kragar (Antichrist )

Everyone I can think of is an Islamic theocracy.

Every thing to these nutjobs is about punishment, fear, and shame.

Because we all know that society works best when it lives in constant fear of its government…wait a second…

30 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:39:48pm

I mean honestly it’s one thing to have a problem with Roe. I disagree and what not but to have a problem with the decision that decriminalizes birth control use for non married couples. To have a problem with that which by the way was a 8-1 decision, you’re out of your fuckin’ mind.

31 Joanne  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:40:23pm

re: #18 FemNaziBitch

Everything I heard regarding Bill and HIllary from the right-wingers is being recycled for this administration.

Now, the same people tell me that the Clintons weren’t that bad and even had some good points.

What will they say about the Obama’s in 15 years?

That Obama was a republican and the Tea Party was at fault for all current and past woes.

32 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:40:41pm

re: #30 FriendsofHummus

I mean honestly it’s one thing to have a problem with Roe. I disagree and what not but to have a problem with the decision that decriminalizes birth control use for non married couples. To have a problem with that which by the way was a 8-1 decision, you’re out of your fuckin’ mind.

Yep, laser like focus on the economy —needing a devalued labor pool.

33 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:40:42pm

Once again, my random knowledge of 19th century English poetry wins the day!

34 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:41:13pm

re: #20 Targetpractice

Who are these “functioning societies” that supposedly have laws against sexy time outside the bonds of matrimony?

I can think of a lot of “functioning societies” in history that punish non-marital sex.

They “functioned” by being okay with beating, flogging, and/or killing women that have non-marital sex.
Except for the ones they drive into prostitution and concubinage, of course.

35 Destro  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:41:21pm

The only thing that can explain this hatred of the First Lady is racism.

36 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:42:29pm

Iron Maiden - The Rime of the Ancient Mariner

37 engineer cat  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:43:12pm

re: #1 iossarian

That poem is actually pretty good. I may try and track down the author to see if he or she will let me include it in my forthcoming tome of contemporary American verse.

resembles the style of william carlos williams

Details for Paterson
by William Carlos Williams

I just saw two boys.
One of them gets paid for distributing circulars
and he throws it down the sewer.

I said, Are you a Boy Scout?
He said, no.
The other one was.
I have implicit faith in
the Boy Scouts

If you talk about it
long enough
you’ll finally write it—
If you get by the stage
when nothing
can make you write—
If you don’t die first

I keep those bests that love
has given me
Nothing of them escapes—
I have proved it
proven once more in your eyes

Go marry! your son will have
blue eyes and still
there’ll be no answer
you have not found a cure
No more have I for that enormous
wedged flower, my mind
miraculously upon
the dead stick of night

38 iossarian  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:45:45pm

re: #36 Kragar (Antichrist )

Iron Maiden - The Rime of the Ancient Mariner

[Embedded content]

Did you know that the Ancient Mariner was a terrible hockey goalie?

“He stoppeth one of three.”

39 iossarian  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:46:02pm

My coat, I will get it.

40 engineer cat  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:46:50pm

re: #18 FemNaziBitch

Everything I heard regarding Bill and HIllary from the right-wingers is being recycled for this administration.

Now, the same people tell me that the Clintons weren’t that bad and even had some good points.

What will they say about the Obama’s in 15 years?

i remember being in the convenience store area of a rural truck stop in the 1990s and seeing a whole rack of anti-clinton novelty items, e.g. little ceramic statuettes of a fat, red nosed president clinton caricature, with an insulting joke painted on it

41 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:47:13pm

New GOP Budget: Same as it ever was

The key fact about this GOP budget is that the differences between it and the last GOP budget — and to a lesser extent between it and the Romney/Ryan plan — are so trivial they’re hardly worth belaboring.

Like his previous budgets, Paul Ryan’s new budget pockets Affordable Care Act savings and revenue as well as revenue from the fiscal cliff tax deal and nominally devotes them to deficit reduction.

However, as in previous budgets, he proposes scrapping the existing progressive income tax rate structure in favor of a system with two-brackets, without identifying how he’d broaden the revenue base. Specifically, he drops the top marginal rate dramatically from 39.6 percent to 25 percent, which is a huge boon to people with high incomes, but pretty meaningless if you’re in the middle class.

As in previous budgets, he doesn’t identify which tax expenditures he’d limit or eliminate to make his overall tax reforms revenue neutral, but as we learned during the presidential campaign, we know this likely means a middle-income tax increase.

As in previous budgets he calls for turning Medicare into a voucher program, but only after 10 years, so that current seniors — who of course are overwhelmingly Republican but overwhelmingly support Medicare as it is — are held harmless

As in previous budgets he repeals the rest of the Affordable Care Act.

As in previous budgets he calls for cutting Medicaid spending by an enormous amount and turning it into a block grant program to be administered by the states.

As in previous budgets he proposes huge but unidentified cuts to other domestic programs, which by and large benefit the poor and middle class.

42 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:47:39pm

There’s something immensely amusing and yet disturbing about those preaching “small government” also calling on that government to enforce morality upon people. What will they call for next, a Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice?

43 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:48:51pm

re: #42 Targetpractice

There’s something immensely amusing and yet disturbing about those preaching “small government” also calling on that government to enforce morality upon people. What will they call for next, a Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice?

See, that’s what amuses me. I bet you Perkins thinks ACA is an example of tyrannical big government at its worse yet here he is saying that the government should punish people who have premarital sex and use birth control. He’s a goddamned little fascist weasel.

44 leftynyc  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:49:28pm

re: #14 Gus

I hope it’s okay I linked to yesterday’s thread in that diary today.

45 dragonath  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:50:16pm

re: #40 engineer cat

i remember being in the convenience store area of a rural truck stop in the 1990s and seeing a whole rack of anti-clinton novelty items, e.g. little ceramic statuettes of a fat, red nosed president clinton caricature, with an insulting joke painted on it

Last time I was in Tennessee, a country music store was selling picaninny figurines.

46 Destro  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:50:30pm

re: #41 Kragar (Antichrist )

As in previous budgets he calls for turning Medicare into a voucher program, but only after 10 years, so that current seniors — who of course are overwhelmingly Republican but overwhelmingly support Medicare as it is — are held harmless

I don’t get how the GOP thinks that seniors would support shafting their children or grandchildren off of a program they love?

It is a weird calculation to say: hey seniors, we will keep your socialism which you love but your kids and grandkids? Screw them!

How is that a winning message? It’s not but they keep pushing it over and over.

47 erik_t  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:50:40pm

re: #41 Kragar (Antichrist )

New GOP Budget: Same as it ever was

The Republican Party either doesn’t understand or doesn’t give a damn about the difference between campaign grandstanding and responsible governing. It’s terribly sad.

48 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:50:51pm

re: #41 Kragar (Antichrist )

New GOP Budget: Same as it ever was

Ah, Ryan’s taken the Microsoft approach: Keep the same shit, put it in a shiny new wrapper, increment the number, and call it “new.”

49 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:51:07pm
50 Lidane  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:51:34pm

re: #47 erik_t

The Republican Party either doesn’t understand or doesn’t give a damn about the difference between campaign grandstanding and responsible governing. It’s terribly sad.

It’s par for the course. They have to keep the mouth-breathing morons ZOMG OUTRAGED 24/7 so they keep doing this shit over and over and over.

51 Tigger2  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:51:57pm

re: #41 Kragar (Antichrist )

New GOP Budget: Same as it ever was

The Republican want us to have no healthcare and working 70 hrs a week for 50 cents an hr.

52 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:52:23pm

re: #49 FemNaziBitch

much needed cuteness break

Insulin…need insulin…*collapse*

53 leftynyc  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:52:24pm

re: #40 engineer cat

i remember being in the convenience store area of a rural truck stop in the 1990s and seeing a whole rack of anti-clinton novelty items, e.g. little ceramic statuettes of a fat, red nosed president clinton caricature, with an insulting joke painted on it

And now he’s the most popular politician in the US. Who’s laughing now?

54 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:52:39pm

NOW, you know.

if you didn’t before.

55 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:53:02pm

re: #43 FriendsofHummus

See, that’s what amuses me. I bet you Perkins thinks ACA is an example of tyrannical big government at its worse yet here he is saying that the government should punish people who have premarital sex and use birth control. He’s a goddamned little fascist weasel.

Theocrats and Reactionaries love a strong Federal government when it back up their views (look at DOMA or the run away slave laws pre-civil war). When public policy swings against them, that is when everything becomes a “States rights” or overreach of government authority isssue.

56 Bulworth  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:53:42pm

re: #15 FriendsofHummus

Al Smith, 1928 Democratic nominee and a proud Wet. Hubert Humphrey also later got the moniker. My regular username is a tribute to both.

I was wondering what had happened to “our” own Happy Warrior….

57 dragonath  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:53:45pm
58 b_sharp  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:54:26pm

re: #49 FemNaziBitch

much needed cuteness break

That woman has furry boobs.

59 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:54:26pm

re: #56 Bulworth

I was wondering what had happened to “our” own Happy Warrior….

Ha, present and accounted for. Thanks for the thought.

60 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:54:49pm

The things that were said about Hillary!!!

Strong intelligent women always get the worst of it.

61 b_sharp  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:55:05pm

re: #57 dragonath

Epic Clinton

Image: tumblr_kwxissNKCf1qz8tj3.jpg

Damn hippies.

62 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:55:08pm

re: #57 dragonath

Epic Clinton

Image: tumblr_kwxissNKCf1qz8tj3.jpg

Even more Epic Clinton:

63 Bulworth  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:55:18pm

re: #59 FriendsofHummus

I am rather offended that the Twitchies usurped your moniker…

64 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:55:42pm

re: #58 b_sharp

That woman has furry boobs.

Is that a bad thing?

65 engineer cat  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:55:52pm

re: #57 dragonath

Epic Clinton

Image: tumblr_kwxissNKCf1qz8tj3.jpg

a coupla dirty, dishevelled, disrespectful hippies who will clearly never amount to anything in life

66 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:56:22pm

re: #65 engineer cat

a coupla dirty, dishevelled, disrespectful hippies who will clearly never amount to anything in life

Bet they’re pot smokers too.

67 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:56:51pm

re: #63 Bulworth

I am rather offended that the Twitchies usurped your moniker…

Heh yeah, oh well.

68 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:57:16pm

Sodomy? No One Told Us About This!

“Concerned Minnesotan father and husband” Mike Frey testifies against gay marriage before Minnesota state house, takes it upon himself to explain that gay marriage can lead to “ejaculation inside of a colon.”

Yeah, and?

69 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:57:24pm

re: #66 Targetpractice

Bet they’re pot smokers too.

and under today’s drug laws would be felons… . .

70 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:57:32pm

re: #57 dragonath

Epic Clinton

Image: tumblr_kwxissNKCf1qz8tj3.jpg

I think that’s my favorite “before they were president and first lady” photo.

71 erik_t  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:57:52pm

re: #68 Kragar (Antichrist )

Sodomy? No One Told Us About This!

Yeah, and?

I’m glad Captain Brilliance is on hand to explain these things.

72 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:57:59pm

re: #68 Kragar (Antichrist )

Sodomy? No One Told Us About This!

Yeah, and?

heterosexual marriage can lead to that too!

73 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:58:06pm

re: #68 Kragar (Antichrist )

Sodomy? No One Told Us About This!

Yeah, and?

Ejaculation inside a colon………Yeah because only gays have anal.

74 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:58:28pm

re: #72 FemNaziBitch

heterosexual marriage can lead to that too!

Drunk nights at the bar can lead to it as well. Ban the bottle!//

75 engineer cat  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:58:34pm

re: #66 Targetpractice

Bet they’re pot smokers too.

clearly, they must both be suffering from brain damage and de-motivational syndrome from their illegal drug use

76 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:59:04pm
77 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:59:28pm

And this one is for Mike Frey…

78 Lidane  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:00:05pm

re: #68 Kragar (Antichrist )

Sodomy? No One Told Us About This!

Yeah, and?

Isn’t sodomy defined as anything other than missionary sex anyway?

WTF. Apparently no one has told this guy about saddlebacking.

79 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:00:54pm

re: #78 Lidane

Isn’t sodomy defined as anything other than missionary sex anyway?

WTF. Apparently no one has told this guy about saddlebacking.

THE HORROR!

80 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:01:33pm

Health care reform tyrannical. Telling other people how they can and cannot consensually screw, reasonable. And they wonder why young people want nothing to do with their prudish party.

81 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:01:37pm

I keep forgetting that only married people have sex.

82 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:02:12pm

re: #48 Targetpractice

Ah, Ryan’s taken the Microsoft approach: Keep the same shit, put it in a shiny new wrapper, increment the number, and call it “new.”

For the True Microsoft Way, one must also replace perfectly useful features from the older version with a “wizard” that purports improve on the old features, but actually only makes them less useful and harder to use or impossible to access. Also, obfuscate important technical details under layers of obnoxious counterintuitive contrived interface controls, and without a hint of irony call it “simplification”.

83 Lidane  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:02:19pm

re: #81 FemNaziBitch

I keep forgetting that only married people have sex.

Heh.

84 Charles Johnson  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:02:26pm

OK, I went and read a lot of the tweets posted by those racist “twin teens” from yesterday’s post, who use the picture of Prussian Blue.

It’s a perfect example of Poe’s Law. I really cannot tell whether this is supposed to be a parody account. If so, they’re posting vile stuff that’s indistinguishable from the real thing - so at what point does it stop being a “parody” and become simply racist?

I think if it is a parody account, whoever’s doing it crossed that line long ago.

85 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:02:34pm

Why am I repeatedly shocked by hte stpid?

86 erik_t  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:02:38pm

I wonder if Concerned Father and Husband would support taxpayer-funded condoms so that the nasty icky ejaculate never actually touches the surface of the colon.

87 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:02:44pm

re: #81 FemNaziBitch

I keep forgetting that only married people have sex.

Obviously its because society isn’t heaping enough punishment and shame on people.

88 makeitstop  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:02:55pm

re: #13 Kragar (Antichrist )

Admiral Nelson was who it was based on.

I thought it was Hubert Humphrey’s nickname in the Senate?

89 engineer cat  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:03:12pm

re: #68 Kragar (Antichrist )

clearly, this person wants to have these kind of thoughts

please pass the brain bleach

90 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:03:45pm

re: #88 makeitstop

I thought it was Hubert Humphrey’s nickname in the Senate?

The poem came first.

91 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:03:55pm

re: #86 erik_t

I wonder if Concerned Father and Husband would support taxpayer-funded condoms so that the nasty icky ejaculate never actually touches the surface of the colon.

If we just armed all colons, this wouldn’t be an issue.

92 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:04:00pm

re: #87 Kragar (Antichrist )

Obviously its because society isn’t heaping enough punishment and shame on people.

Because that has worked so well in the past.

93 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:04:21pm

re: #88 makeitstop

I thought it was Hubert Humphrey’s nickname in the Senate?

Yeah but usually you reference the older thing which is the aforementioned poem.

94 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:04:52pm

which came first? The reference, the poem or the person?

95 Lidane  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:05:59pm

re: #91 The Ghost of a Flea

If we just armed all colons, this wouldn’t be an issue.

You almost owed me a new monitor. Just so you know. ;)

96 Charles Johnson  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:06:07pm
97 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:06:19pm

re: #68 Kragar (Antichrist )

Sodomy? No One Told Us About This!

Yeah, and?

Really? Well, thank you for illuminating us to the obvious. Did you graduate 6th grade yet?

98 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:06:23pm

re: #94 FemNaziBitch

which came first? The reference, the poem or the person?

First came Nelson, then the poem about him, and later the references.

99 Charles Johnson  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:06:36pm
100 Single-handed sailor  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:06:41pm

re: #58 b_sharp

That woman has furry boobs.

nice ‘sweater puppies’.

101 wrenchwench  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:06:56pm

re: #91 The Ghost of a Flea

If we just armed all colons, this wouldn’t be an issue.

Your entendre. It is double.

102 Charles Johnson  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:06:57pm
103 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:07:07pm

re: #91 The Ghost of a Flea

If we just armed all colons, this wouldn’t be an issue.

Some already violate chemical and biological weapons treaties.

104 Charles Johnson  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:07:09pm
105 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:07:28pm

re: #99 Charles Johnson

heh what the fuck. Next, we’ll have documentaries that allege that Joe Biden stole Christmas.

106 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:07:38pm

re: #97 FemNaziBitch

Really? Well, thank you for illuminating us to the obvious. Did you graduate 6th grade yet?

I blame GOP sponsored Sex Ed Classes.

107 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:08:33pm

I’ve seen sixth graders more mature on sex and sexual acts than some elected GOPers.

108 makeitstop  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:08:42pm

re: #90 Kragar (Antichrist )

The poem came first.

Ah. Was there explanation upthread? I had to duck out for a while. If it was previously explained and I missed it, my apologies.

109 Bulworth  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:08:47pm

re: #68 Kragar (Antichrist )

He probably thinks that’s icky. So that disqualifies teh gay right there. No icky things allowed ever. Freedom. ///

110 leftynyc  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:09:30pm

re: #78 Lidane

Isn’t sodomy defined as anything other than missionary sex anyway?

WTF. Apparently no one has told this guy about saddlebacking.

Actually described as any sex that doesn’t lead to procreation.

111 leftynyc  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:10:49pm

re: #99 Charles Johnson

Just in time for the Dick Cheney documentary on Showtime on Friday. I wonder which one will have more eyes on it.

112 engineer cat  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:10:49pm

i knew a woman who named her parrot ‘sodom’

“because he spills his seed”

113 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:11:13pm

re: #110 leftynyc

Actually described as any sex that doesn’t lead to procreation.

So, in other words, all the fun stuff.

114 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:11:29pm

It is snowing in my part of the world.

115 HappyWarrior  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:11:35pm

re: #110 leftynyc

Actually described as any sex that doesn’t lead to procreation.

So in other words, a ridiculously high amount of sex that is had. Yeah let’s make pretty much the whole adult population criminals.

116 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:11:52pm

From the “Why is this being reported widely?” Department:

usnews.nbcnews.com

Well, for one she wasn’t ticketed for speeding. The ticket was for “failing to move to the right”; which is the catch-all for hogging the left lane, especially at speeds slower than all the other passing cars do. Most interstates have these nice signs that say “Keep right. Left lane for passing only.”

And I’d be willing to get said trooper came up behind her in the left lane, sat there for 10-15 seconds, and then pulled her over for being oblivious and not getting out of the way. (A behavior pattern I have seen more than once on I-95 in PA.)

117 engineer cat  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:11:53pm

but nobody ever talks about gomorrah-ism

118 leftynyc  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:12:02pm

re: #113 Kragar (Antichrist )

So, in other words, all the fun stuff.

;-)

119 b_sharp  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:12:52pm

re: #64 FemNaziBitch

Is that a bad thing?

Not at all, just unusual.

120 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:13:28pm

re: #119 b_sharp

Not at all, just unusual.

I beginning to wonder if you had a prejudice against neanderthals …

121 b_sharp  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:13:45pm

re: #68 Kragar (Antichrist )

Sodomy? No One Told Us About This!

Yeah, and?

He thinks it should always be ejaculation inside a sock.

122 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:14:16pm

Have fun Lizards! Off to see the accountant about taxes.

:p

123 iossarian  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:14:43pm

re: #116 Feline Fearless Leader

I cannot stand the “anything goes” approach to lane discipline in the US. It’s dangerous and incredibly inefficient in terms of avoiding slowdowns.

STAY IN THE RIGHTMOST LANE UNLESS PASSING

That is all.

124 b_sharp  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:14:47pm

re: #72 FemNaziBitch

heterosexual marriage can lead to that too!

The phrase ‘tight ass’ came to mind for some reason.

125 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:15:25pm

re: #124 b_sharp

The phrase ‘tight ass’ came to mind for some reason.

your mind is always in the gutter

126 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:16:41pm
127 b_sharp  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:16:44pm

re: #91 The Ghost of a Flea

If we just armed all colons, this wouldn’t be an issue.

An AR-15 up every ass.

128 dragonath  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:17:15pm

re: #111 leftynyc

THE WORLD ACCORDING TO DICK CHENEY

Advisories: Adult Language, Adult Content, Nudity, Violence

O god no

129 b_sharp  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:18:03pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

That is the joke.

130 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:18:32pm

going thru my friends list on fb. looks like I lost a couple (few) others I hadn’t noticed. My friend count has gone up tho.

Oh well.

131 Joanne  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:18:58pm

re: #81 FemNaziBitch

I keep forgetting that only married people have sex.

I think that’s news to most married people. :-)

132 b_sharp  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:20:06pm

re: #114 FemNaziBitch

It is snowing in my part of the world.

Yesterday, while I was driving on the highway, we had white-out conditions. Today while I’m home, supposedly working on a database, the sun is shining.

Chaos is trying to kill me.

133 engineer cat  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:20:30pm

re: #46 Destro

As in previous budgets he calls for turning Medicare into a voucher program, but only after 10 years, so that current seniors — who of course are overwhelmingly Republican but overwhelmingly support Medicare as it is — are held harmless

I don’t get how the GOP thinks that seniors would support shafting their children or grandchildren off of a program they love?

It is a weird calculation to say: hey seniors, we will keep your socialism which you love but your kids and grandkids? Screw them!

How is that a winning message? It’s not but they keep pushing it over and over.

they are genuinely confused that we are not selfish and short sighted enough to fall for it

people judge other people by themselves. this is one of the things that is killing the gop

134 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:20:53pm

re: #132 b_sharp

Yesterday, while I was driving on the highway, we had white-out conditions. Today while I’m home, supposedly working on a database, the sun is shining.

Chaos is trying to kill me.

All you have to do is praise the glories of the 4 Powers.
/

135 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:21:32pm
136 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:22:00pm

FAKE QUOTE RAGE. Stay classy, TGDN

137 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:22:11pm

Fox News Anchor Shouts Down Criticism Of Ryan Budget

Fox News host Bill Hemmer tried to shout down Rep. Chris Van Hollen’s (D-MD) criticism of the GOP budget on Tuesday morning by loudly reading from Rep. Paul Ryan’s (R-WI) editorial promoting the newly-released Republican plan.

Hemmer dismissed Van Hollen’s claims that Ryan’s proposal would benefit the richest Americans while severely underfunding programs like Medicare, Medicaid, and food stamps as “talking points” and claimed that the plan would make the government “healthier.”

Then, as Van Hollen explained that steep cuts in spending would undermine job growth, Hemmer proceeded to angrily read from Ryan’s Wall Street Journal opinion piece

138 b_sharp  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:22:23pm

re: #123 iossarian

I cannot stand the “anything goes” approach to lane discipline in the US. It’s dangerous and incredibly inefficient in terms of avoiding slowdowns.

STAY IN THE RIGHTMOST LANE UNLESS PASSING

That is all.

Here it’s illegal to pass on the right, so every once in a while the cops stop and fine everybody going the speed limit in the right lane and ignore the turtles slowing everybody down in the left lane.

People have become stupid.

139 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:22:27pm

I would have love to the the person responding to the idiot regarding anal sex.

140 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:22:50pm

re: #132 b_sharp

Yesterday, while I was driving on the highway, we had white-out conditions. Today while I’m home, supposedly working on a database, the sun is shining.

Chaos is trying to kill me.

It does that to everyone.

141 b_sharp  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:23:03pm

re: #125 FemNaziBitch

your mind is always in the gutter

I know, that’s why you’ll find me there looking for it.

142 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:23:07pm

re: #133 engineer cat

they are genuinely confused that we are not selfish and short sighted enough to fall for it

people judge other people by themselves. this is one of the things that is killing the gop

Meanwhile, the Senate Dems are set to come out tomorrow with their own budget proposal, that would not only mix cuts and tax reform together to cut the deficit, but will also spend $100 billion in stimulus spending to offset the economic damage of the cuts being proposed, geared towards infrastructure repair and job training.

Look for the same media today who are talking about how “serious” Ryan’s budget is to declare that the Dem budget is “tax and spend,” along with how “everybody knows” stimulus spending doesn’t work.

143 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:23:08pm

re: #135 NJDhockeyfan

Fucking hell.

144 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:23:15pm

re: #138 b_sharp

Here it’s illegal to pass on the right, so every once in a while the cops stop and fine everybody going the speed limit in the right lane and ignore the turtles slowing everybody down in the left lane.

People have become stupid.

I hear that screws Amerian’s badly when they drive in Europe.

145 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:24:30pm

re: #101 wrenchwench

Your entendre. It is double.

teehee

146 Interesting Times  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:24:37pm

re: #137 Kragar (Antichrist )

Fox News Anchor Shouts Down Criticism Of Ryan Budget

He who derps last, and loudest, wins.

147 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:26:02pm

re: #146 Interesting Times

argumentum ad derpum

148 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:26:11pm

Koch Brothers Looking To Purchase Several Major American Newspapers

Right-wing funders and business industrialists David and Charles Koch may purchase the Tribune Company newspapers, which include the Chicago Tribune, Baltimore Sun, and the Los Angeles Times. The brothers are “interested in the clout they could gain through the Times’ editorial pages,” the Hollywood Reporter notes. Responding to the report, a spokesperson for Koch told the website that the brothers are “constantly exploring profitable opportunities in many industries and sectors”:

Missy Cohlmia, a spokeswoman for Koch Companies Public Sector, LLC, issued the following statement to THR: “As an entrepreneurial company with 60,000 employees around the world, we are constantly exploring profitable opportunities in many industries and sectors. So, it is natural that our name would come up in connection with this rumor. We respect the independence of the journalistic institutions referenced in today’s news stories, but it is our long-standing policy not to comment on deals or rumors of deals we may or may not be exploring. ”

The Los Angeles Weekly was the first to report that the Kochs could be mulling the purchase of the newspaper assets, which make up $623 million of the company’s $7 billion holdings.

Another reason to disregard newspaper editorial pages from now on.

149 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:28:04pm

re: #142 Targetpractice

Meanwhile, the Senate Dems are set to come out tomorrow with their own budget proposal, that would not only mix cuts and tax reform together to cut the deficit, but will also spend $100 billion in stimulus spending to offset the economic damage of the cuts being proposed, geared towards infrastructure repair and job training.

Look for the same media today who are talking about how “serious” Ryan’s budget is to declare that the Dem budget is “tax and spend,” along with how “everybody knows” stimulus spending doesn’t work.

Cutting taxes on rich assholes doesn’t put money into the economy where it can actually see some use. Public projects, training, and programs does.

150 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:28:12pm

re: #148 Kragar (Antichrist )

Koch Brothers Looking To Purchase Several Major American Newspapers

Another reason to disregard newspaper editorial pages from now on.

WSJ’s gone to shit ever since Murdoch added it to his little empire.

151 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:28:25pm

Video has been released showing the group of people who swarmed into the Brooklyn Rite Aid store following protests over the NYPD-involved death of Kimani Gray.

You see a large group stream in, and then they swarm out, several assaults occur of an employee at the checkout counter in the process and knocking over displays while taking shopping carts. Several people are seen swinging at the employee as others run past.

152 wrenchwench  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:29:07pm

re: #145 FemNaziBitch

teehee

Damn, I spoke French again.

153 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:29:50pm

re: #150 Targetpractice

WSJ’s gone to shit ever since Murdoch added it to his little empire.

Yup, looks like several more papers are going to end up as worthless fishwrappers pretty soon too.

154 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:30:18pm

re: #84 Charles Johnson

OK, I went and read a lot of the tweets posted by those racist “twin teens” from yesterday’s post, who use the picture of Prussian Blue.

It’s a perfect example of Poe’s Law. I really cannot tell whether this is supposed to be a parody account. If so, they’re posting vile stuff that’s indistinguishable from the real thing - so at what point does it stop being a “parody” and become simply racist?

I think if it is a parody account, whoever’s doing it crossed that line long ago.

Poe’s Law: when you read something from The Onion only it’s not in The Onion.

155 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:33:05pm

Police in standoff with double murder suspect at Oregon hotel

LINCOLN CITY, Ore. — Police are negotiating with a man barricaded inside a Lincoln City, Ore. hotel, who they say murdered his grandparents in Fairwood.

The Westshore Oceanfront Suites has been evacuated and locked down, police said. Officers have the hotel surrounded.

“He’s not wanting to come out. He checked in using his correct name, and his driver’s license, so we suspect it’s one and the same,” said Lincoln City Police Chief Keith Kilian.

A night clerk at the hotel told police they recognized Boysen from a news report as a man who checked into the hotel.

The desk clerk was watching Good Morning America, or some other morning program, and she saw information on a guy that was outstanding,” said Kilian. “She checked the hotel registration and thought, ‘My God, he checked in last night.’ “

156 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:33:09pm

Barton: People who claim the Constitution is a secular document are biblically illiterate

And if you know the Bible and you know and read the Constitution, you will see Bible verses and Bible phrases all over the Constitution. It quotes Bible phrases everywhere. People today say ‘oh, it’s a godless Constitution, it’s a secular document.’ If somebody tells me it’s a secular document, I know that they’re biblically illiterate. They don’t recognize a Bible verse when they see one because the Constitution is loaded up with direct quotations out of the Bible.

Except where it totally doesn’t have them at any point, its loaded with them.

157 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:33:15pm
158 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:33:16pm

re: #153 Kragar (Antichrist )

Yup, looks like several more papers are going to end up as worthless fishwrappers pretty soon too.

Guess I can’t really call it surprising. Most of these newspapers never took seriously the idea that one day, bloggers and Internet-only news sources would put their asses out of a job.

159 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:37:00pm

I see the newspaper buy out as further proof as the Koch Brothers being thoroughly corrupt, evil bastards trying to buy credibility. Looking forward to seeing a new wave of editorials telling us how Global warming is bullshit, the minimum wage is evil, and only by complete deregulation of the energy industry can we ever achieve economic prosperity and freedom.

160 erik_t  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:37:10pm

re: #156 Kragar (Antichrist )

Barton: People who claim the Constitution is a secular document are biblically illiterate

Except where it totally doesn’t have them at any point, its loaded with them.

Repeat the Big Lie enough…

161 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:37:19pm

Charles. BOGONs in the referrers?

162 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:38:34pm

re: #159 Kragar (Antichrist )

I see the newspaper buy out as further proof as the Koch Brothers being thoroughly corrupt, evil bastards trying to buy credibility. Looking forward to seeing a new wave of editorials telling us how Global warming is bullshit, the minimum wage is evil, and only by complete deregulation of the energy industry can we ever achieve economic prosperity and freedom.

The thing is that their market are people who have no internet or smart phone presence —they read the news paper.

Further proof of our divided world.

163 dragonath  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:39:34pm

The Tribune Newspapers don’t have too far to fall, honestly. The real prize is the TV stations. WPIX Philadelphia and KTLA Los Angeles are the big ones.

164 Charles Johnson  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:42:31pm

re: #161 Gus

No, those are just referrers from a page that’s being accessed through an IP instead of a domain name.

165 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:43:30pm

re: #159 Kragar (Antichrist )

I see the newspaper buy out as further proof as the Koch Brothers being thoroughly corrupt, evil bastards trying to buy credibility. Looking forward to seeing a new wave of editorials telling us how Global warming is bullshit, the minimum wage is evil, and only by complete deregulation of the energy industry can we ever achieve economic prosperity and freedom.

That reminds me, another item in Ryan’s Plan for this year: Opening more federal land to oil and natural gas companies with as little oversight as possible, while also taking the choice of greenlighting Keystone XL out of the administration’s hands by approving of it immediately.

166 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:43:52pm

re: #164 Charles Johnson

No, those are just referrers from a page that’s being accessed through an IP instead of a domain name.

OK. Was wondering.

167 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:45:07pm

re: #165 Targetpractice

That reminds me, another item in Ryan’s Plan for this year: Opening more federal land to oil and natural gas companies with as little oversight as possible, while also taking the choice of greenlighting Keystone XL out of the administration’s hands by approving of it immediately.

Same old GOP horseshit: 2013 edition

168 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:45:35pm

Yep, it seems it’s the bigots and the religious whackos who have unfriended me.

Strangely, none are young(er) people.


One I know, she isn’t either, just couldn’t handle my in-your-faceness. She messaged me about it.

169 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:46:36pm

re: #167 Kragar (Antichrist )

Same old GOP horseshit: 2013 edition

Pretty much. I leafed through all 91 pages of it (including cover, index, and separation pages) and might as well have just watched a 30 second advert. For a party that bitches about Obama’s “constant campaign mode,” their budget proposal amounts to one line stump speech.

170 Single-handed sailor  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:47:11pm

If you say the radius of a pizza is “z” and its thickness is “a” — The volume of the pizza will be calculated by pi*z*z*a.

171 A Mom Anon  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:47:35pm

re: #168 FemNaziBitch

I have exactly 25 friends on facebook. Husband, my kids, my grandson, a couple other random family members and the rest are friends or my dog park buddies. I like it that way.

172 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:47:39pm

GOP Congressman Threatens To Shut Down The Government Unless Obamacare Is Defunded

Rep. Jim Bridenstine (R-OK), who entered Congress this year after defeating former Rep. John Sullivan (R-OK) in last year’s GOP primary, told Mike Huckabee on his radio show today that he’s “hoping and praying” his Party will finally defund Obamacare.

Rather than going through the normal legislative process, Bridenstine proposed a more pernicious approach: making a government-funding bill contingent on Congress defunding Obamacare. “If they want to fund the government, they’ve got to defund Obamacare,” Bridenstine said. “I support that 100%.”

Go stand in the corner and hold your breath waiting for that, Jimmy.

Fucking tired of these fucking clown school GOP antics.

173 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:48:42pm

I skipped Facebook.

174 Tigger2  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:49:00pm

re: #137 Kragar (Antichrist )

Fox News Anchor Shouts Down Criticism Of Ryan Budget

Assholes on Fox have no class.

175 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:49:55pm

I want there to be an antisocial media:

“You just searched for: Kragar”

“If he wanted to talk to you, you would already know how to get in touch with him, now piss off.”

176 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:50:06pm

3/14 1:59 AM

177 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:51:17pm

re: #173 Kragar (Antichrist )

I skipped Facebook.

It seems to be the way my family operates and I keep in touch with a lot of people I wouldn’t otherwise.

I also like Pages and Organizations who’s stuff isn’t in the news a lot. So I keep updated on their shit.

So, in that respects it’s very useful.

I have in-laws who are not on fb, but their kids are. Their kids are my friends. What the parents report on their children to other family members is illuminating in regards to what I see their kids actually doing. Gives one perspective.

178 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:52:03pm

Outside is sounding ominous.

Should go on weather.com and find-out what is going on.

:0

179 wrenchwench  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:52:28pm

re: #175 Kragar (Antichrist )

I want there to be an antisocial media:

“You just searched for: Kragar”

“If he wanted to talk to you, you would already know how to get in touch with him, now piss off.”

Gotta know when to do an about-Facebook.

180 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:52:32pm

re: #178 FemNaziBitch

Outside is sounding ominous.

Should go on weather.com and find-out what is going on.

:0

They’re here.

181 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:52:50pm
182 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:53:03pm

Oh boy, more of this nitwit:

‘Concerned’ Minnesota man explains how butt ‘enzymes’ cause AIDS

Speaking before a State House committee, which is voting soon on a gay marriage bill, “concerned Minnesotan and father and husband” Mike Fry presented his own version of how gay men contract AIDS.

When there’s ejaculation into a vagina, there’s a barrier there — as in your packet it states there — of a cellular tissue that doesn’t allow the sperm that has an enzyme at the head of it to penetrate the blood flow. It is designed to go to the egg, that enzyme is meant to burn the outside membrane of the egg cell, go inside the egg and then deposit …

When ejaculation occurs inside of a colon, it’s highly absorbent material, the cells do not have a barrier for the sperm and those enzyme get into the blood flow. When those enzymes enter into the blood flow and a continued and prolonged environment to that happens — these enzymes into blood flow — it causes what we know as AIDS.

AIDS, of course, brings upon common diseases, colds and things.

Apparently the House Civil Law Committee was not convinced by such medical testimony. The committee successfully passed the bill. And the Senate Judiciary Committee voted 5-3 to approve same-sex enzyme swapping, as well.

183 A Mom Anon  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:53:38pm

re: #175 Kragar (Antichrist )

Facebook IS anti-social most of the time,lol. Twitter is probably worse though, I’ve avoided that like the plague. Mean people suck, Twitter seems to bring out the worst in a lot of people. Ick. If I want that I can go drive around GA with an Obama magnet on my car.

184 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:54:26pm

re: #183 A Mom Anon

Facebook IS anti-social most of the time,lol. Twitter is probably worse though, I’ve avoided that like the plague. Mean people suck, Twitter seems to bring out the worst in a lot of people. Ick. If I want that I can go drive around GA with an Obama magnet on my car.

I’ve skipped Twitter as well.

185 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:54:59pm

re: #181 FemNaziBitch

yep, just as I suspected.

Yuck.

186 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:56:00pm

re: #185 Gus

Yuck.

and, of course, the dogs want to go out …

187 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:56:33pm
188 sattv4u2  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:57:15pm

re: #171 A Mom Anon

I have exactly 25 friends on facebook. Husband, my kids, my grandson, a couple other random family members and the rest are friends or my dog park buddies. I like it that way.

less IS better

I was up to just over 125 at one time. Started looking it over and said “I don’t really know “whoever” all that well, and I’ll probably never see them in the real world, and I really don’t care what they’re having for dinner nor care about their friends/ relatives birthdays,, so,,,, Syonara”

I’m down to about 45

189 sattv4u2  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:58:07pm

re: #184 Kragar (Antichrist )

I’ve skipped Twitter as well.

Same here

From what I’ve seen ,,,, yawn

190 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:58:59pm

Faith Leaders Slam House GOP Budget As ‘Immoral And Counter To Our Values’

Hours after Ryan’s announcement, a diverse group of faith leaders condemned the budget as “unacceptable” and “immoral.” “Today we are convinced more than ever that the voices of the people must be heard and that Rep. Ryan’s cuts to vital human-needs programs to benefit the wealthy must be defeated,” wrote Sister Simone Campbell, a Catholic nun and executive director of NETWORK, a Catholic social justice lobby. “We are a nation for the 100 percent, and his budget cuts are both immoral and counter to our values.”

Other faith leaders echoed Campbell in a statement from the Center for American Progress and Faith in Public Life:

191 sattv4u2  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:59:21pm

heh

CHASE online banking site is down
Our website is temporarily unavailable. We’re working to quickly restore access. Please log on later.

Any chatter of it being hacked anywhere??

192 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:59:50pm

re: #191 sattv4u2

heh

CHASE online banking site is down
Our website is temporarily unavailable. We’re working to quickly restore access. Please log on later.

Any chatter of it being hacked anywhere??

Could just be a hardware issue.

193 sattv4u2  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:00:21pm

re: #192 Kragar (Antichrist )

Could just be a hardware issue.

Probably

But in these days and times, one wonders!

194 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:00:30pm

re: #190 Kragar (Antichrist )

Faith Leaders Slam House GOP Budget As ‘Immoral And Counter To Our Values’

Sister, no offense, but the GOP only likes you when you’re silent about all matters other than when and in what manner people are engaging in sexy time. All that compassion and giving business? Yeah, they couldn’t give a shit less if people are in the streets, that’s what churches exist to address, right?

195 erik_t  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:00:32pm

re: #182 Kragar (Antichrist )

Oh boy, more of this nitwit:

‘Concerned’ Minnesota man explains how butt ‘enzymes’ cause AIDS

……

196 Destro  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:01:05pm

re: #84 Charles Johnson

OK, I went and read a lot of the tweets posted by those racist “twin teens” from yesterday’s post, who use the picture of Prussian Blue.

It’s a perfect example of Poe’s Law. I really cannot tell whether this is supposed to be a parody account. If so, they’re posting vile stuff that’s indistinguishable from the real thing - so at what point does it stop being a “parody” and become simply racist?

I think if it is a parody account, whoever’s doing it crossed that line long ago.

If they know who Prussian Blue is and post such stuff they are not a parody account.

197 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:02:13pm

More drone news

198 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:02:29pm
199 wrenchwench  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:02:34pm

re: #191 sattv4u2

heh

CHASE online banking site is down
Our website is temporarily unavailable. We’re working to quickly restore access. Please log on later.

Any chatter of it being hacked anywhere??

You could probably find out on Twitter.

200 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:04:24pm

re: #197 NJDhockeyfan

More drone news

We’re gonna die! Help!

201 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:04:40pm

re: #199 wrenchwench

You could probably find out on Twitter.

I saw nothing!

202 sattv4u2  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:05:31pm

re: #199 wrenchwench

You could probably find out on Twitter.

I don’t want to know what it’s having for lunch, so,, no!!

203 Destro  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:06:02pm

re: #133 engineer cat

they are genuinely confused that we are not selfish and short sighted enough to fall for it

people judge other people by themselves. this is one of the things that is killing the gop

David Frum had an observation which I posted:

littlegreenfootballs.com

David Frum: What Tea Party really stands for: Screw Young in Favor of Big Govt for Old White People

David Frum:

Post-2008 hard-right conservatives did rally around one new idea: the Ryan plan praised above by William Voegeli. And what was the Ryan plan? Simply this: a plan to load almost all the burden of fiscal adjustment onto Americans under age 55, while largely exempting Americans over age 55. Even beyond the Ryan plan, the Tea Party championed causes dear to the hearts of retirees and near-retirees. Remember, the issue that launched the Tea Party in the summer of 2009 was…opposition to Medicare cuts for current beneficiaries. That’s a strange rallying cry for a purportedly limited government movement. Once you begin to think of the Tea Party as a vehicle for advancing the economic interests of the old against the young, though, a lot of otherwise mysterious behaviors suddenly begin to make sense.

So now the “Get your socialist govt hands off my medicare” makes more sense to me reading that. The Tea Party and by extension the whole limited govt movement has been about a certain demographic wanting all the govt goodies for themselves (because they deserve it and it’s not socialism if they earned it) and none for the “others” and the “others” are usually the people this old demographic hates like “minorities” or “hippies” or whatever which they charge is stealing their hard earned white people money (even if they had govt jobs and pensions, etc).

204 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:06:30pm
205 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:07:02pm

re: #188 sattv4u2

less IS better

I was up to just over 125 at one time. Started looking it over and said “I don’t really know “whoever” all that well, and I’ll probably never see them in the real world, and I really don’t care what they’re having for dinner nor care about their friends/ relatives birthdays,, so,,,, Syonara”

I’m down to about 45

I don’t get much of the boring stuff. Occasional, food pr0n, but that’s ok.

206 JeffFX  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:08:41pm

re: #197 NJDhockeyfan

I’m starting a no drone ships in my swimming pool protest.

207 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:08:45pm
208 erik_t  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:09:16pm

re: #204 Gus

@JeffreyGoldberg It seems as if Pamela Geller is still trying to ignite a broad religious war, this time in San Francisco: www.bizpacreview.com

Life’s hard for a culture warrior when everyone else wants to be at peace.

209 wrenchwench  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:09:51pm

re: #202 sattv4u2

I don’t want to know what it’s having for lunch, so,, no!!

Hmmmm,,,, I must not be using the Lunch feed.

210 efuseakay  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:10:10pm

Like I said yesterday, the DNC will be missing out on a huge opportunity if they don’t use this for campaign ads.

211 sattv4u2  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:10:46pm

re: #205 FemNaziBitch

I don’t get much of the boring stuff. Occasional, food pr0n, but that’s ok.

Had one guy, at least 40 times a day he’d post some type of New Age/ Holistic/ Inspirational sayings and videos. It was nice, for awhile. Then,, overkill!

212 kirkspencer  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:10:53pm

re: #207 Gus

but notice how he gives no link to this issue. Just trust him, it’s a different issue than the one that was debunked.

213 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:11:20pm

re: #207 Gus

Because why would a government the size of the United States, with multiple military and law enforcement organizations, ever need to buy ammo in bulk?

214 sattv4u2  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:12:08pm

re: #209 wrenchwench

Hmmmm,,,, I must not be using the Lunch feed.

Maybe you should

Lots of good gossip during lunch!

215 Tigger2  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:12:14pm

re: #207 Gus

Big fucking deal Bruce, I would be more concerned if they were not be buying any ammunition.

216 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:12:39pm

re: #211 sattv4u2

Had one guy, at least 40 times a day he’d post some type of New Age/ Holistic/ Inspirational sayings and videos. It was nice, for awhile. Then,, overkill!

Some people feel that way about me …

:0

217 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:13:07pm

re: #212 kirkspencer

but notice how he gives no link to this issue. Just trust him, it’s a different issue than the one that was debunked.

218 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:13:24pm

FEMA CAMPS!!

219 sattv4u2  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:13:38pm

re: #216 FemNaziBitch

Some people feel that way about me …

:0

Nahh,,, you usually limit it to a few Cuteness links per day

220 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:14:25pm

re: #218 Gus

FEMA CAMPS!!

And if they did buy the ammo, so what?

221 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:14:31pm

re: #171 A Mom Anon

I have exactly 25 friends on facebook. Husband, my kids, my grandson, a couple other random family members and the rest are friends or my dog park buddies. I like it that way.

Same here, Facebook is for family, Twitter is for bad craziness.

222 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:15:54pm

re: #219 sattv4u2

Nahh,,, you usually limit it to a few Cuteness links per day

No one has come right out and said I’m going to hell or anything. They are probably afraid of my response.

223 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:16:33pm

The Feds spend billions on submarines, tanks, and jets we don’t need.

Wingnuts: “We need to spend money on defense to protect us from our enemies.”

The Feds buy ammo.

Wingnuts: “OBAMA IS GOING TO KILL US ALL!”

224 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:17:45pm

I had to LOL the other day. Some guy promoted his fb page, so it appeared on my page. The name of the page was something like “Stop Masterbation Now”

225 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:17:49pm

re: #220 Kragar (Antichrist )

And if they did buy the ammo, so what?

The 1.6 billion is likely for all of these agencies.

226 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:19:22pm

fb users: here you go

he has over 3000 likes.

228 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:20:36pm

re: #226 FemNaziBitch

fb users: here you go

he has over 3000 likes.

POE

229 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:20:37pm

Yeah, you totally are.

230 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:20:57pm
231 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:21:13pm

re: #229 Vicious Babushka

Yeah, you totally are.

More deep fried corn syrup crunchies!

232 sattv4u2  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:21:34pm

re: #226 FemNaziBitch

fb users: here you go

he has over 3000 likes.

Please help us make parents aware of Masturbation in the home and hopefully to make it illegal.

Yeah. Keep it where in belongs, in the workplace !!!

wait,, WHAT !?!?

233 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:21:42pm

re: #228 Gus

POE

I wish

234 sattv4u2  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:22:33pm

re: #226 FemNaziBitch

fb users: here you go

he has over 3000 likes.

I’m not Brad Pitt, but he doesn’t look as if he could get laid in a womens prison with a handful of pardons!!

235 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:23:30pm

WHAT RACISM?

236 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:25:21pm

WE HATE MILLIONAIRES WHO PROVIDE US WITH JOBS.
WAIT, WHAT? DERP. FAIL.

237 wrenchwench  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:25:32pm
238 erik_t  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:29:33pm

re: #236 Vicious Babushka

WE HATE MILLIONAIRES WHO PROVIDE US WITH JOBS.
WAIT, WHAT? DERP. FAIL.

Stockholm syndrome is a sad sight to behold.

239 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:29:34pm

Rep. Paul Ryan: Republicans won’t ‘give up on destroying the health care system’

House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-WI) said Tuesday that Republicans would continue to push to repeal health care reform.

“We believe that this law is going to collapse under its own weight… This to us is something that we’re not going to give up on, because we’re not going to give up on destroying the health care system for the American people,” he said during a news conference to unveil his latest budget plan. “We want to prevent this law, which we really do believe will do great damage to families and the health care system in America.”

Did he just misspeak? Yeah, probably, but its still funny.

240 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:31:00pm

He can’t even provide himself with a job.
Happy Birthday, Loser.

241 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:31:14pm

Fake. He has some fake poster about an imaginary Fappy The Anti-Masturbation Dolphin complete with dates and locations. Then I find this at a SATIRE website: Fappy® The Anti-Masturbation Dolphin Kicks Off Nationwide School Tour. And it links to him. And of course everyone in the comments there thinks it real and are outraged. LOL Fucking internet.

www.superofficialnews.com

242 erik_t  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:31:15pm

re: #238 erik_t

Stockholm syndrome is a sad sight to behold.

Oh my FSM in the Great Ethereal Strainer, you cannot make this shit up.

Stockholm syndrome, or capture–bonding, is a psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward their captors, sometimes to the point of defending them. These feelings are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims, who essentially mistake a lack of abuse from their captors for an act of kindness.[1][2] The FBI’s Hostage Barricade Database System shows that roughly 27% of victims show evidence of Stockholm syndrome.[3]

There’s that fucking number again.

243 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:31:33pm
244 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:31:52pm

re: #241 Gus

Fake. He has some fake poster about an imaginary Fappy The Anti-Masturbation Dolphin complete with dates and locations. Then I find this at a SATIRE website: Fappy(r) The Anti-Masturbation Dolphin Kicks Off Nationwide School Tour. And it links to him. And of course everyone in the comments there thinks it real and are outraged. LOL Fucking internet.

[Link: www.superofficialnews.com…]

I sure hope so.

245 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:32:00pm
246 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:32:34pm

Factcheck

Is STOP Masturbation NOW - Photos | Facebook real?

FALSE

247 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:33:30pm
248 kirkspencer  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:33:48pm

re: #235 Vicious Babushka

WHAT RACISM?

Doesn’t this make u well w/national pride?

Yes, Kate, yes it does make me swell with national pride. The first lady of the United states is out there with few hundred kids and some celebrities and they’re dancing - not worrying about looking prim and proper, but moving and living and laughing and, just by doing, fighting against obesity.

Too bad you’ve zoomed in so you can’t see anyone else. Let me open your eyes a little bit by sending you here.

249 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:34:47pm

Documents Reveal Anti-Gay Parenting Study Was Manipulated To Influence Supreme Court

Mark Regnerus has admitted his “family structures” study didn’t actually measure gay parenting, comparing the children of separated parents who had same-sex relationships with those of married opposite-sex parents. An internal auditor of the journal that published the Regnerus study last year concluded its findings were “bullshit” because this false comparison doesn’t adequately measure same-sex parenting. Nevertheless, conservatives have repeatedly cited the study, even to the Supreme Court, claiming same-sex couples are unfit to raise children to substantiate their opposition to marriage equality, even though medical professionals have thoroughly debunked its claims. Now, documents reveal that the anti-gay conservatives who originally funded the study conspired before data was even collected to produce results that could influence “major decisions of the Supreme Court.”

The American Independent collected internal documents through public-records requests from the anti-gay Witherspoon Institute, which funded the Regnerus study, and found that its president intended the study to produce a result against gay parenting before it was even conducted. This is not surprising, as both the Witherspoon Institute, as well as the study’s other funder, the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation, are connected to Robert George, founding co-chair of the National Organization for Marriage and prominent legal opponent of marriage equality. Now these emails confirm that suspicion.

250 sattv4u2  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:34:49pm

re: #246 Gus

Factcheck

Is STOP Masturbation NOW - Photos | Facebook real?

FALSE

You mean I can continue?

What a relief!!

251 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:35:56pm

re: #245 Gus

Fappy The Anti-Masturbation Dolphin

such things are better left to the Onion

252 Lidane  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:38:30pm

Looks like someone over at GOP HQ wants to try and change the hamsters in their IT department and try to drag the CompuServe generation that runs the party into the new century:

253 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:41:21pm

re: #252 Lidane

Looks like someone over at GOP HQ wants to try and change the hamsters in their IT department and try to drag the CompuServe generation that runs the party into the new century:

They’re getting someone to set up their Geocities page finally?

254 Tigger2  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:41:54pm

re: #239 Kragar (Antichrist )

Rep. Paul Ryan: Republicans won’t ‘give up on destroying the health care system’

Did he just misspeak? Yeah, probably, but its still funny.

The way they have been trying to repeal Obamacare, Turning Medicare into a voucher program and limit Medicaid, If it was a slip it could have been a slip on how they really feel about the healthcare system.

255 sunnygal  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:43:05pm

re: #73 HappyWarrior

Ejaculation inside a colon………Yeah because only married gays have anal.

FIFY

256 Lidane  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:43:25pm
257 Lidane  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:43:59pm

re: #253 Kragar (Antichrist )

They’re getting someone to set up their Geocities page finally?

Right after they get their AltaVista news feeds set up.

258 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:44:11pm

re: #236 Vicious Babushka

WE HATE MILLIONAIRES WHO PROVIDE US WITH JOBS.
WAIT, WHAT? DERP. FAIL.

They’ve had five years, yet they could never pin down how many jobs were “created” under Romney’s watch. Probably because Bain refused to let anybody look in their books and told us to take their word that any deal that created/saved jobs, he was the leader behind it all.

259 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:44:31pm

re: #256 Lidane

My state, y’all:

Image: Tea-Party_CSCOPEad.jpg

Looks like something from the 50s.

260 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:44:53pm
261 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:45:46pm

Alex McFarland on Spiritual Town Hall: Survival of America Depends on Revival of Christianity

Christian apologist Alex McFarland says that in order for America to survive there needs to be a revival of Christianity. He plans to host a spiritual town hall meeting tonight (Tuesday evening) in Charlotte, N.C., to address the position that a Christian worldview in America needs to be re-established.

“We encourage people everywhere to get serious about prayer, get serious about living out their Christian faith because I personally believe that to save America, to preserve our Constitution, we have to again in this culture reassert and proclaim and even defend the Christian worldview,” McFarland recently told The Christian Post.

“The survival of America depends on a revival of Christianity. It is time for God’s people to join together and pray,” he states.

I’ll make a deal with all these Evangelical bastards. You let Christianity die in the US, and if it comes back in three days, I’ll be your first convert. Deal?

262 erik_t  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:46:09pm

re: #256 Lidane

My state, y’all:

Image: Tea-Party_CSCOPEad.jpg

God, some people will fucking believe anything.

263 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:46:29pm
264 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:47:08pm

Sarah Palin writing book about Christmas

The former Republican vice presidential candidate and Alaska governor has a deal with HarperCollins for “A Happy Holiday IS a Merry Christmas,” scheduled for November. HarperCollins announced Monday that the book will criticize the “over-commercialism” and “homogenization” of Christmas.
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“Amidst the fragility of this politically correct era, it is imperative that we stand up for our beliefs before the element of faith in a glorious and traditional holiday like Christmas is marginalized and ignored,” Palin said in a statement released through her publisher. “This will be a fun, festive, thought provoking book, which will encourage all to see what is possible when we unite in defense of our faith and ignore the politically correct Scrooges who would rather take Christ out of Christmas.”

265 EPR-radar  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:47:30pm

re: #170 Single-handed sailor

If you say the radius of a pizza is “z” and its thickness is “a” — The volume of the pizza will be calculated by pi*z*z*a.

Reminds me of one of the few math jokes that is any good.

Q: What yellow and undecidable?

A: Zorn’s lemon.

266 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:48:17pm
267 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:48:46pm

re: #264 Kragar (Antichrist )

Sarah Palin writing book about Christmas

Slush fund must be running low.

268 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:50:13pm

re: #267 Targetpractice

Slush fund must be running low.

I feel sorry for all the relatives of Wingnuts who are going to get this piece of shit for a Christmas gift.

269 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:50:56pm
270 Tigger2  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:52:06pm

re: #268 Kragar (Antichrist )

I feel sorry for all the relatives of Wingnuts who are going to get this piece of shit for a Christmas gift.

Ya have to start a fire in the fireplace with something, the pages should work great.

271 EPR-radar  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:52:09pm

re: #268 Kragar (Antichrist )

I feel sorry for all the relatives of Wingnuts who are going to get this piece of shit for a Christmas gift.

Relatives of wingnuts face much worse trials than receiving bound packages of emergency toilet paper.

272 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:52:46pm

“Here you go Bob. I know you’re a fan, so I got you the special edition collectors edition of Red Dawn.”

“Thanks Bro, and here is your gift. Its the Sarah Palin Christmas Book.”

“Gee.. thanks. *pause* GET IN THE CAR, KIDS!”

273 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:52:46pm

I have a hard time with the idea of of burning books, but . …

274 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:52:49pm

re: #271 EPR-radar

Relatives of wingnuts face much worse trials than receiving bound packages of emergency toilet paper.

The paper is probably too heavy to wipe your ass with.

275 kirkspencer  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:53:05pm

re: #271 EPR-radar

Relatives of wingnuts face much worse trials than receiving bound packages of emergency toilet paper.

Sometimes, they deliver them personally. //

276 Bear  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:54:56pm

re: #274 Vicious Babushka

Worse than Sears or Wards catalog?

277 makeitstop  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:55:10pm

re: #269 Vicious Babushka

Free Republic - Plastic US - Themes and Skins for Freerepublic

If there’s ever been a better representation of the phrase ‘lipstick on a pig,’ I’ll be damned if I’ve seen it.

278 kirkspencer  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:56:50pm

re: #265 EPR-radar

Reminds me of one of the few math jokes that is any good.

Q: What yellow and undecidable?

A: Zorn’s lemon.

Given a copse of trees and a pile of manure, make ten.

A: you add a tree and a turd and a tree and a turd and a tree and a turd.

279 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:57:12pm

California lieutenant governor: ‘Do the damn right thing’ and legalize marijuana

California Lieutenant Governor Gavin Newsom on Tuesday called on politicians to be honest about legalizing marijuana, claiming many lawmakers and officials secretly opposed the drug’s outlaw status.

“I am sick and tired of politicians saying one thing in private and saying another in public,” he said on HuffPost Live. “Love me or hate me, I can’t participate in that. I didn’t on gay marriage, and I watched as so many politicians, particularly in my party, said I’m with you on gay marriage, and then years went by and they were still arguing for second-class citizenship of the gay and lesbian community.”

Newsom claimed the same was true of the war on drugs, which he described as an “abject failure.” He noted that drug prohibition had been particularly harmful to racial minorities, who are imprisoned at a disproportionately high rate for drug offenses.

“It’s time for politicians of all strips to come out of the closet in this respect and say what they think on the issue, do the damn right thing on this.”

280 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:58:33pm

re: #269 Vicious Babushka

He. “Who was in America first…” Soultreans. Wonder what he means by that? Gee… let me think. Wonder if it has something to do with America in theory having been “discovered by Europeans.”

281 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:58:53pm

It’s interesting how people hide their racism these days.

282 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:59:33pm

later all!

Have a great one.

283 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:59:44pm

Elizabeth Warren Slams Republicans For Filibustering Consumer Protection Agency Chief

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), who crafted the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau as part of the 2010 financial reform law and initially helped lead it, excoriated Republicans on Tuesday for refusing to confirm a nominee to lead the agency.

“From the way I see how other agencies are treated, I see nothing here but a filibuster threat against Director Cordray as an attempt to weaken the consumer agency,” she said at a Senate Banking Committee hearing on the CFPB nomination. “I think the delay in getting him confirmed is bad for consumers, it’s bad for small banks, it’s bad for credit unions, it’s bad for anyone trying to offer an honest product in an honest market.

“The American people,” Warren said, “deserve a Congress that worries less about helping big banks and more about helping regular people who have been cheated on mortgages, on credit cards, on student loans, on credit records.”

284 Mattand  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:00:08pm

re: #268 Kragar (Antichrist )

I feel sorry for all the relatives of Wingnuts who are going to get this piece of shit for a Christmas gift.

Heh. I got a set of biographies from the GF’s parents a few years ago; one of Washington, Franklin, and Jefferson.

I got halfway through the Washington one and started noticing odd things like the authors claiming Washington was against slavery, and that it seemed every 3 pages, it was pointed out how devout he was.

Put down the book and Googled the authors. Turns out the book I was reading, The Real George Washington, was part of a series of books endorsed by Glenn Beck. Basically, they try to paint the Founders as Christian Superheroes.

I flipped to the index and not surprisingly, Washington signing the Fugitive Slave Act had somehow not made the final edit. Surprise, surprise. Gave up on the book right then and there.

I didn’t bother with the other two, although I wished I had, given that Jefferson and Franklin weren’t model Christians.

285 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:00:13pm

re: #279 Kragar (Antichrist )

California lieutenant governor: ‘Do the damn right thing’ and legalize marijuana

At this point, I think societal momentum is a large part of the resistance to legalization. The campaign against pot smoking has been going on so long that if it ended tomorrow, society wouldn’t know what to do with itself. And it would raise a big-ass fucking question of what to do about all those people doing a nickel, dime, or more behind bars for getting caught with a baggie that smelled like pot.

286 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:01:04pm

re: #283 Kragar (Antichrist )

Elizabeth Warren Slams Republicans For Filibustering Consumer Protection Agency Chief

So Sen. Reid, how’s that bipartisan filibuster reform working out for ya?

287 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:01:45pm

re: #279 Kragar (Antichrist )

California lieutenant governor: ‘Do the damn right thing’ and legalize marijuana

This can only be done through congress.

288 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:01:59pm

re: #285 Targetpractice

At this point, I think societal momentum is a large part of the resistance to legalization. The campaign against pot smoking has been going on so long that if it ended tomorrow, society wouldn’t know what to do with itself. And it would raise a big-ass fucking question of what to do about all those people doing a nickel, dime, or more behind bars for getting caught with a baggie that smelled like pot.

“We can’t decriminalize pot because of the economic impact it would have on the private prison industry” - GOP strategist

289 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:03:07pm

re: #288 Kragar (Antichrist )

“We can’t decriminalize pot because of the economic impact it would have on the private prison industry” - GOP strategist

Not to mention if they legalize pot, then they have no way of proving just how “strong” they are on crime prevention.

290 EPR-radar  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:04:20pm

re: #286 Targetpractice

So Sen. Reid, how’s that bipartisan filibuster reform working out for ya?

About as well as any other ‘bipartisan’ effort these days. In other words, like ten pounds of crap stuffed into a five pound bag.

291 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:04:37pm

re: #289 Targetpractice

Not to mention if they legalize pot, then they have no way of proving just how “strong” they are on crime prevention.

They can always pepper spray and beat a few minorities.

292 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:06:53pm

The run on ammunition has gotten so bad that the only rimfire cartridges Midway has in stock are 5mm Remington, so esoteric that the the most recently produced firearm chambered in that caliber was manufactured in 1974, and .22 short blanks. The people at Walmart say that anything that’s brought in and stocked over night is cleared out within 15 minutes of their 7AM opening. This is the new normal, people stockpiling like crazy with no end in sight. The two cans of Fiocchi .22lr I ordered before Christmas finally arrived today. Just the talk of new legislation has been able to effectively induce a near three month waiting period simply through panic buying.

293 kirkspencer  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:07:23pm

re: #285 Targetpractice

At this point, I think societal momentum is a large part of the resistance to legalization. The campaign against pot smoking has been going on so long that if it ended tomorrow, society wouldn’t know what to do with itself. And it would raise a big-ass fucking question of what to do about all those people doing a nickel, dime, or more behind bars for getting caught with a baggie that smelled like pot.

The pot-only crowd would get released over a period of a couple of months. The prison systems would have enough time to get the mechanism in place.

Most of the ones in for pot-AND-… will just have their sentences reduced.

The fun - the challenges - will come where the presence of pot was used as a reason for warrant, or where the additional charges were things like evading or resisting arrest, or where the AND was conspiracy to deal or something like that.

So ~5% out in a couple of months, and another ~10 to 15% out over the next couple of years.

The real fun comes from suits over property seizures.

294 EPR-radar  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:09:16pm

re: #293 kirkspencer


The real fun comes from suits over property seizures.

Good point. People accused of drug crimes pretty much have no property rights at all in the US, unless they can afford the really expensive lawyers

295 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:09:22pm

re: #292 goddamnedfrank

The run on ammunition has gotten so bad that the only rimfire cartridges Midway has in stock are 5mm Remington, so esoteric that the the most recently produced firearm chambered in that caliber was manufactured in 1974, and .22 short blanks. The people at Walmart say that anything that’s brought in and stocked over night is cleared out within 15 minutes of their 7AM opening. This is the new normal, people stockpiling like crazy with no end in sight. The two cans of Fiocchi .22lr I ordered before Christmas finally arrived today. Just the talk of new legislation has been able to effectively induce a near three month waiting period simply through panic buying.

Yet the same folks who are snapping up those bullets in 15 minutes are sure that there’s some grand government conspiracy behind the scarcity, which is why they’re so quick to believe that a bulk buy of ammunition by DHS is somehow proof that the government is “arming up” for war.

296 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:09:39pm


297 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:10:43pm

re: #296 Gus

I wonder how much he bitched about DHS when Bush set it up.

298 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:10:58pm

re: #296 Gus

Dollars to donuts, Brucey was one of those who cheered on the creation of DHS when it was Bush trying to get all the intelligence community under the same roof so as to better battle “the terrorists.”

299 EPR-radar  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:11:00pm

re: #292 goddamnedfrank

The run on ammunition has gotten so bad that the only rimfire cartridges Midway has in stock are 5mm Remington, so esoteric that the the most recently produced firearm chambered in that caliber was manufactured in 1974, and .22 short blanks. The people at Walmart say that anything that’s brought in and stocked over night is cleared out within 15 minutes of their 7AM opening. This is the new normal, people stockpiling like crazy with no end in sight. The two cans of Fiocchi .22lr I ordered before Christmas finally arrived today. Just the talk of new legislation has been able to effectively induce a near three month waiting period simply through panic buying.

The NRA’s marketing campaign appears to be working splendidly. Therefore, we can expect it to be turned up a notch or two.

I can hardly wait. //dripping

300 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:11:23pm

re: #299 EPR-radar

The NRA’s marketing campaign appears to be working splendidly. Therefore, we can expect it to be turned up a notch or two.

I can hardly wait. //dripping

The NRA: Best friend a gun dealer could ever ask for.

301 erik_t  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:12:51pm

re: #293 kirkspencer

The fun - the challenges - will come where the presence of pot was used as a reason for warrant, or where the additional charges were things like evading or resisting arrest, or where the AND was conspiracy to deal or something like that.

Dismissed with a wave of the pen because it was illegal at the time. I don’t know of anyone suggesting retroactive legalization.

302 EPR-radar  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:13:26pm

re: #298 Targetpractice

Dollars to donuts, Brucey was one of those who cheered on the creation of DHS when it was Bush trying to get all the intelligence community under the same roof so as to better battle “the terrorists.”

Oddly enough, many people only have civil liberties concerns when the opposite party has the Presidency. I don’t give Democrats a pass on this, so I’m certainly not about to cut the Republicans any slack either.

303 Charles Johnson  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:13:59pm
304 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:15:01pm

re: #301 erik_t

Dismissed with a wave of the pen because it was illegal at the time. I don’t know of anyone suggesting retroactive legalization.

Yeah, except in possible a few extreme examples, I don’t see anyone getting any compensation or reparations out of legalization occurring.

305 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:15:58pm

re: #295 Targetpractice

Yet the same folks who are snapping up those bullets in 15 minutes are sure that there’s some grand government conspiracy behind the scarcity, which is why they’re so quick to believe that a bulk buy of ammunition by DHS is somehow proof that the government is “arming up” for war.

What’s interesting is that the only ammo I’ve seen available with any regularity are the more effective, flatter shooting hunting calibers for what passes as big game in SoCal. Stuff like 270 Winchester and 25-06.

306 kirkspencer  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:16:11pm

re: #297 Kragar (Antichrist )

I wonder how much he bitched about DHS when Bush set it up.

fwiw, I don’t like the DHS. I’d rather all the various departments be returned to the the agencies from which they were pulled. But it is done and changing would be difficult and expensive in the indirect costs - it might not be worth it now.

But not liking it because it’s big? There are people who just don’t understand that there is more to this nation than their home town. Heck, I’ve learned in some cases that some people can’t grok how big their home towns are.

Me, mine, friends of mine, people who do what I do, and other.

307 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:16:18pm

re: #300 Targetpractice

The NRA: Best friend a gun dealer could ever ask for.

A person on my Facebook from Colorado has been writing about how “heroic” MagPull is for providing free shipping for the last-minute sale of 30+ round magazines.

It’s really sort of set into focus how the continuous alarmism about “gun grabbing” has created this kind of false intimacy between producers and consumers.

Yeah, we you’re buddies…now buy more of our stuff…for freedom.

308 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:16:28pm

re: #303 Charles Johnson

Linked at Kos: Daily Kos: Racist Right converges on first lady on Twitter.

And Feministing: Daily Feminist Cheat Sheet.

LGF linked at KOS?!?!?!

That does it, I’m leaving!

Actually, its more to do with its time for me to go home, and I will be back later, but I’m still leaving for now.

Take that.
/

309 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:17:57pm

re: #281 Gus

It’s interesting how people hide their racism these days.

310 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:19:32pm

re: #307 The Ghost of a Flea

A person on my Facebook from Colorado has been writing about how “heroic” MagPull is for providing free shipping for the last-minute sale of 30+ round magazines.

It’s really sort of set into focus how the continuous alarmism about “gun grabbing” has created this kind of false intimacy between producers and consumers.

Yeah, we you’re buddies…now buy more of our stuff…for freedom.

Seems too much to me like the relationship between a drug dealer and his customers. “Look man, the cops have been snooping around, so I only got a little. You want it, it’s double the price.”

311 erik_t  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:21:11pm

re: #309 Vicious Babushka

Is that person actually using the phrase ‘BenghaziGate’ in a non-ironic way?

Stop the planet; I’m getting off.

312 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:21:57pm

re: #301 erik_t

Dismissed with a wave of the pen because it was illegal at the time. I don’t know of anyone suggesting retroactive legalization.

Which will make plain that we’re arguing obedience to the State solely for the sake of being obedient to the State, completely glazing over how utterly the courts have failed the people. We’re going to ignore completely any question or examination of what the State’s compelling interest was in making marijuana illegal in the first place.

313 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:22:36pm

re: #311 erik_t

Is that person actually using the phrase ‘BenghaziGate’ in a non-ironic way?

Stop the planet; I’m getting off.

314 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:22:51pm

I don’t trust the DHS! Trying to figure that one out. Then why trust the FBI over DHS? What about the DOJ? What about the CIA?

315 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:24:23pm

Prudence is one of the more prolific whackjobs and Fake-Quote Tweeters at TGDN.

316 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:25:22pm

DERP

317 EPR-radar  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:25:37pm

re: #315 Vicious Babushka

Prudence is one of the more prolific whackjobs and Fake-Quote Tweeters at TGDN.

Ah. Sitting in a cesspool and contributing more then her share. I suppose it counts as a hobby…

318 erik_t  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:25:52pm

re: #312 goddamnedfrank

Which will make plain that we’re arguing obedience to the State solely for the sake of being obedient to the State, completely glazing over how utterly the courts have failed the people. We’re going to ignore completely any question or examination of what the State’s compelling interest was in making marijuana illegal in the first place.

Obviously we are arguing exactly that, because that’s how our judicial framework is constructed. Ignoring this most basic fact in such a conversation nearly guarantees that a moderately sympathetic listener will dismiss the legalization-proponent as a fringe wacko.

319 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:26:10pm

DERP DERP HURR HURR & U R SO TOTALLY GONNA LOSE.

320 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:27:15pm

re: #319 Vicious Babushka

DERP DERP HURR HURR & U R SO TOTALLY GONNA LOSE.

It also won’t be fought against an army whose reinforcements are months away by sail.

321 kirkspencer  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:28:27pm

re: #301 erik_t

Dismissed with a wave of the pen because it was illegal at the time. I don’t know of anyone suggesting retroactive legalization.

re: #304 Kragar (Antichrist )

Yeah, except in possible a few extreme examples, I don’t see anyone getting any compensation or reparations out of legalization occurring.

Disagree in part. Oh, not wholesale, but I do see a lot of them occurring. The egregious nature of some of these is, after all, part of what’s driving the legalization movement. Joe, carrying two ounces, sees his parents’ home seized by the police because it’s “in connection”. Mary, who was caught carrying but refuses to turn in anyone else, gets the additional charges of conspiracy to traffic (and some others).

In the end, the purpose of law is to serve justice, not to control it. Or so our philosophy of law holds. There will be a lot that won’t happen, but many of the more egregious will be relieved at least in part.

322 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:29:26pm

re: #320 Targetpractice

It also won’t be fought against an army whose reinforcements are months away by sail.

And the neo-seesesh with their AR-15s will be fighting against Yankees with DRONES.

323 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:31:44pm

re: #318 erik_t

Obviously we are arguing exactly that, because that’s how our judicial framework is constructed.

Wasn’t always. At one time our government pretended that it needed an entire constitutional amendment in order to ban the manufacture and sale of alcohol. Even then federal law carved out exemptions for medicinal use and religious observance.

Now we just blindly pretend that the 18th Amendment wasn’t even necessary to have accomplished that goal, that everything could have been done by acts of Congress and massively over-broad interpretations of what constitutes interstate commerce.

324 EPR-radar  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:32:54pm

re: #321 kirkspencer

re: #304 Kragar (Antichrist )

Disagree in part. Oh, not wholesale, but I do see a lot of them occurring. The egregious nature of some of these is, after all, part of what’s driving the legalization movement. Joe, carrying two ounces, sees his parents’ home seized by the police because it’s “in connection”. Mary, who was caught carrying but refuses to turn in anyone else, gets the additional charges of conspiracy to traffic (and some others).

In the end, the purpose of law is to serve justice, not to control it. Or so our philosophy of law holds. There will be a lot that won’t happen, but many of the more egregious will be relieved at least in part.

I hope it works out this way. The alternative philosophy of law that views the law as a tool to benefit the privileged while maintaining a veneer of fairness is accumulating entirely too much evidence in its favor these days.

325 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:35:00pm

re: #320 Targetpractice

It also won’t be fought against an army whose reinforcements are months away by sail.

And the new “revolutionaries” won’t be extensively, expensively backed by a powerful wealthy nation.

326 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:36:04pm

re: #325 The Ghost of a Flea

And the new “revolutionaries” won’t be extensively, expensively backed by a powerful wealthy nation.

Neither will there be any will on the part of the remaining states to go to war to force them back into the Union.

Sorry.

327 engineer cat  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:36:46pm

If the government is doing it

be my guest, stimulate the economy for the rest of us by wasting your cash

328 kirkspencer  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:37:55pm

re: #324 EPR-radar

I hope it works out this way. The alternative philosophy of law that views the law as a tool to benefit the privileged while maintaining a veneer of fairness is accumulating entirely too much evidence in its favor these days.

It’s likely to do so.

Probably the best guidance is to see what happened when alcohol prohibition was lifted. It was a tangle and nobody says it was fair, but the attempt was made.

329 EPR-radar  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:37:59pm

re: #325 The Ghost of a Flea

And the new “revolutionaries” won’t be extensively, expensively backed by a powerful wealthy nation.

One of history’s better bits of irony is the likelihood that French war debt accrued as part of their anti-British effort during the America Revolution contributed significantly to the weakness of the French regime in the run-up to the French Revolution.

330 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:38:25pm

re: #325 The Ghost of a Flea

And the new “revolutionaries” won’t be extensively, expensively backed by a powerful wealthy nation.

Oh, I’m sure there’s other nations, Chinese and Russians on the top of my list, who’d be happy to funnel money to “revolutionaries” through third parties in order to con the rednecks into believing that they’re getting support from like-minded “patriots.”

331 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:40:36pm

DERP. They still haven’t figured out the #2 and #1 reasons for KILLING OBAMACARE


332 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:42:09pm

Who wants to think of #2 and #1 reasons to DEFUND OBAMACARE?

2. Poor people will get Medical treatment without going bankrupt!

1. WOMEN will have access to all forms of REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE.

333 erik_t  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:43:17pm

re: #328 kirkspencer

It’s likely to do so.

Probably the best guidance is to see what happened when alcohol prohibition was lifted. It was a tangle and nobody says it was fair, but the attempt was made.

My google-fu was too weak to determine what happened with prohibition-inmates after the repeal. If anyone can find out, I’d love to know. I just can’t think of any real precedent for releasing people rightly convicted of crimes that later ceased to be crimes.

IANAL, etc.

334 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:43:32pm

Prudence is so full of DERP

335 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:44:08pm

And she has 12,634 followers.

336 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:44:52pm

re: #331 Vicious Babushka

DERP. They still haven’t figured out the #2 and #1 reasons for KILLING OBAMACARE

How will it “kill jobs” except by forcing companies to take care of their employees? Folks seem to have forgotten that health insurance through your employer didn’t start because companies did it out of the kindness of their hearts, it started because companies wanted to cut back on turnover rates and get maximum productivity by keeping workers healthy and on the line.

Folks wanna turn back to the clock to the Gilded Age, more power to them. Just don’t be surprised when you’re working 12 hours on Sunday because your boss wants that bonus he was promised for improving productivity yet again.

337 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:44:52pm

DERP

338 erik_t  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:45:53pm

re: #337 Vicious Babushka

DERP

#Shit30yosSay

EDIT: Oh christ, 17. Kid’s never even held a fucking full time job and he’s got the nerve to tell other people they can’t retire.

339 EPR-radar  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:46:05pm

re: #332 Vicious Babushka

Who wants to think of #2 and #1 reasons to DEFUND OBAMACARE?

2. Poor people will get Medical treatment without going bankrupt!

1. WOMEN will have access to all forms of REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE.

Small correction to #2 above: Poor and middle class people will get medical treatment without going bankrupt.

This is especially painful to the masters of the universe, because there is more profit in bankrupting members of the middle class.

340 kirkspencer  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:46:12pm

re: #334 Vicious Babushka

Prudence is so full of DERP

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding.

341 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:46:13pm

SRSLY THIS MORON DOESN’T THINK THERE IS A DIFFERENCE. BEYOND DERP.

342 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:46:28pm

re: #337 Vicious Babushka

DERP

How ‘bout we knock it down to 55, get all those folks who are past their primes off the line so we can get fresh, young workers in there? How do you expect to create new jobs when you keep people working into their 70s?

343 kirkspencer  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:46:38pm

re: #337 Vicious Babushka

DERP

Mr. Butler appears to be old enough to know. ///

344 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:47:53pm

RIGHT WING USING FACTS & LOGIC

345 kirkspencer  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:48:45pm

re: #335 Vicious Babushka

And she has 12,634 followers.

All it takes for that half to start paying is for them to be paid a living wage.

346 EPR-radar  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:48:45pm

re: #342 Targetpractice

How ‘bout we knock it down to 55, get all those folks who are past their primes off the line so we can get fresh, young workers in there? How do you expect to create new jobs when you keep people working into their 70s?

We should have a 4 day work week. That should help with unemployment and underemployment.

Far more than a 20% productivity increase has already been swallowed up by the top fraction of 1%. Time to see productivity increases actually benefitting those who are more productive.

347 Varek Raith  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:48:57pm

re: #319 Vicious Babushka

DERP DERP HURR HURR & U R SO TOTALLY GONNA LOSE.

I fart in your general direction.
Image: M1a2-2_large.jpg

348 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:50:27pm

Prudence U R a Virus.

349 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:51:02pm

LOL TEH DERP

350 Varek Raith  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:51:48pm

re: #349 Vicious Babushka

LOL TEH DERP

Your avatar is awesome.

351 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:52:45pm

re: #350 Varek Raith

Your avatar is awesome.

Babushka Cat looks too serene. I have to find pissed-off kitteh in babushka.

352 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:57:35pm
353 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:58:12pm

re: #347 Varek Raith

I fart in your general direction.
Image: M1a2-2_large.jpg

Here’s a sample of what they would face. Watch to the end. 45 seconds.

354 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 3:59:56pm


355 allegro  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:01:07pm

re: #349 Vicious Babushka

LOL TEH DERP

Piss off a liberal Watch liberals point and laugh when numbnuts buy Sarah Palin ‘s Christmas book.I will buy 3 copies …. just to try to piss off liberals. #tgdn #tcot .
— Michael (@CoolChange80) March 12, 2013

356 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:01:36pm

re: #354 Vicious Babushka

Should Obama cut down on ammo purchases rather than White House tours?

Yes, the massive ammunition purchases make me fear what our government is up to (76%, 1,000 Votes)
Yes, it seems to me the Founding Fathers warned against a ‘standing army’ (9%, 124 Votes)
Yes, the amount of money they’re spending during federal budget cuts is ludicrous (4%, 50 Votes)
Yes, why in the world do feds need five bullets for every person in the United States? (3%, 42 Votes)
Yes, if the feds weren’t buying so much ammunition, maybe Americans could get their hands on some (3%, 36 Votes)

357 makeitstop  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:02:33pm

re: #356 Gus

Should Obama cut down on ammo purchases rather than White House tours?

No ‘no’ options? HA!

358 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:02:36pm
359 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:05:16pm

re: #357 makeitstop

No ‘no’ options? HA!

Or the “No” option got no votes.

360 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:05:35pm

re: #357 makeitstop

No ‘no’ options? HA!

Oh… that was just the top…

Yes, the massive ammunition purchases make me fear what our government is up to (76%, 1,000 Votes)
Yes, it seems to me the Founding Fathers warned against a ‘standing army’ (9%, 124 Votes)
Yes, the amount of money they’re spending during federal budget cuts is ludicrous (4%, 50 Votes)
Yes, why in the world do feds need five bullets for every person in the United States? (3%, 42 Votes)
Yes, if the feds weren’t buying so much ammunition, maybe Americans could get their hands on some (3%, 36 Votes)
Closing down the tours is a good first step. We should shut down the rest of the White House next (2%, 29 Votes)
Yes, especially since police and even Marines are now being told to ration ammunition (2%, 26 Votes)
Other (less than 1%, 8 Votes)
No, apparently you can still get a White House tour for a $500,000 donation (less than 1%, 1 Votes)
No, the government needs ammunition to keep us safe (less than 1%, 1 Votes)
No, it takes a lot of money to build up a civilian security force equal to the military (0%, 0 Votes)
No, the amount of ammunition being purchased is normal and seems reasonable (0%, 0 Votes)
No, Obama is doing the right thing by cutting back on White House tours (0%, 0 Votes)
No, the government needs to buy up ammunition to keep it out of the hands of kooks and murderers (0%, 0 Votes)

361 Varek Raith  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:07:36pm

GAU-8; there’s a sound you never forget.

362 engineer cat  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:14:12pm

Piss off a liberal buy Sarah Palin ‘s Christmas

Obama Discovered To Be Plot By Liberals To Make True Conservatives Waste Their Money On Stupid Books, Ammunition, And Powdered Milk

obama family will be dismantled after 2016 election when ayatolla adolf marx fonda takes over and confiscates your penis

363 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:14:23pm

re: #182 Kragar (Antichrist )

Oh boy, more of this nitwit:

‘Concerned’ Minnesota man explains how butt ‘enzymes’ cause AIDS

Rectal Enzymes. Great band name.

364 wrenchwench  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:15:48pm
365 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:15:52pm

re: #361 Varek Raith

GAU-8; there’s a sound you never forget.

Yeah. That is a terrifying noise.

366 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:16:04pm

re: #292 goddamnedfrank

The run on ammunition has gotten so bad that the only rimfire cartridges Midway has in stock are 5mm Remington, so esoteric that the the most recently produced firearm chambered in that caliber was manufactured in 1974, and .22 short blanks. The people at Walmart say that anything that’s brought in and stocked over night is cleared out within 15 minutes of their 7AM opening. This is the new normal, people stockpiling like crazy with no end in sight. The two cans of Fiocchi .22lr I ordered before Christmas finally arrived today. Just the talk of new legislation has been able to effectively induce a near three month waiting period simply through panic buying.

Things are proceeding as planned.

367 Targetpractice  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:17:57pm

re: #364 wrenchwench

“Men’s Rights Activists”? What rights are they being denied? Oh shit, I forgot, they’re not treated as blameless in the eyes of the law anymore.

368 wrenchwench  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:21:23pm

re: #367 Targetpractice

“Men’s Rights Activists”? What rights are they being denied? Oh shit, I forgot, they’re not treated as blameless in the eyes of the law anymore.

Specifically in this case, the right to be creepy without being called creepy. It’s a good little article.

[…]

Though the word may be occasionally used unfairly (for example, to describe a physically unattractive guy’s genuinely respectful attempt at striking up a conversation), “creepy” serves a vital function. No other word is as effective as describing when a man has crossed a woman’s boundary; no other word forces a man to reflect on how his behavior makes other people feel. A guy can disprove accusations of being weak by displaying strength (often in foolish ways.) But a guy can only disprove the charge of creepiness by fundamentally altering his behavior to be more genuinely respectful of women.

[…]

If I were ggt, I’d have Paged it. She may have already….

369 kirkspencer  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:23:42pm

Fun playing with words.

Both sexes commit domestic abuse at about the same rates. Add the word physical in there, however, and the traditional perception shows up. She yells, he hits. She uses passive aggression, he uses a gun.

There is a proportion - five to ten percent - where the reverse is true. As with a lot of other human misery I think we should not bury it or ignore it — it exists, its victims need protection. But the vast majority of abusers are seeking cover of the victims of their ilk, and it has pretty much made the MRA movement what it is; a Protect the Power organization, aimed at sustaining the so-called “natural order”.

370 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:23:43pm

WHAT RIGHT WING RACISM?

371 Mich-again  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:25:23pm

To me the increasing volume of the far right wing hyperbole is just a death spasm of their political movement. The further out the Derpsters go the more they will convince each other that they now represent the middle America. They’ll get so far out there and then realize no one followed them out there except a bunch of other raging idiots. Stay calm and keep making fun of them.

372 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:25:34pm

WHAT RIGHT-WING RACISM?

373 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:26:26pm

re: #363 Eventual Carrion

Rectal Enzymes. Great band name.

As in, Ted Nugent and The?

374 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:26:31pm

HE’S NOT THE PRESIDENT. DEAL WITH IT.

375 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:27:11pm

I remember how in 2000 there were some Democrats who claimed that GW Bush was NOT THE PRESIDENT. Eventually they got over it and moved on.

376 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:28:13pm

re: #367 Targetpractice

“Men’s Rights Activists”? What rights are they being denied? Oh shit, I forgot, they’re not treated as blameless in the eyes of the law anymore.

manboobz.com does an excellent job of illustrating and mocking what concerns MRAs.

Bitches want money, don’t like “nice” guys, act all “wanting sex” but won’t put out, are totally asking to be raped with their going out in public and stuff, but incidentally most rapes are actually are evil bitches making stuff up.

Also, feminists are just giant, toothed attack vaginas that will create a gender-flipped Handmaiden’s Tale. Like a crack corps of dick-amputating Nazis that shouldn’t have comparable wages to us alphas.

Served with a side order of racism (Asian women are better because they’re naturally less bitch), assorted sex predator apologism (pick up artists, bein’ a shorteyes), and evo psych woo-woo.

377 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:29:55pm

Because of all that shit he tweets on the Internet.

378 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:31:09pm

re: #377 Vicious Babushka

Because of all that shit he tweets on the Internet.

Also, the slave raping.

I’m just sayin’.

379 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:31:15pm

re: #292 goddamnedfrank

The run on ammunition has gotten so bad that the only rimfire cartridges Midway has in stock are 5mm Remington, so esoteric that the the most recently produced firearm chambered in that caliber was manufactured in 1974, and .22 short blanks. The people at Walmart say that anything that’s brought in and stocked over night is cleared out within 15 minutes of their 7AM opening. This is the new normal, people stockpiling like crazy with no end in sight. The two cans of Fiocchi .22lr I ordered before Christmas finally arrived today. Just the talk of new legislation has been able to effectively induce a near three month waiting period simply through panic buying.

I still have a fair bit of powder & bullets but I’m out of large rifle primers. I do have plenty of large pistol and sold my small pistol recently to a new reloader at my cost. He was pretty happy about that. I may have to see if I can track down some of the Russian made primers if I run out of primed rifle brass before things calm down.

Feeping morons out there making things worse with their paranoia.

380 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:31:22pm

KOCH BROS. BUYING THEMSELVES A STATE LEGISLATURE.

381 Varek Raith  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:33:54pm
382 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:34:49pm

re: #319 Vicious Babushka

DERP DERP HURR HURR & U R SO TOTALLY GONNA LOSE.

and it won’t fought with the help of the other two superpowers of the day - France and, to a lesser extent, Spain.

383 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:34:57pm
384 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:36:26pm

re: #373 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

As in, Ted Nugent and The Santorum’s?

MTC (my two cents)

385 Varek Raith  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:36:59pm

re: #383 Gus

This is your AR-15. This is the government’s B-52.

Molon labe!

I could totally shoot that out of the air with a well placed shot at 50000ft!
/wingnut

386 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:39:34pm

MOLRON LABME

387 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:40:46pm

re: #385 Varek Raith

I could totally shoot that out of the air with a well placed shot at 50000ft!
/wingnut

This is your AK-47. This is the government’s B-1 Lancer.

Molon lame!

388 Varek Raith  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:42:57pm

This is your ammo;
Image: prvi223x350.jpg

This is a B-52s ammo;
Image: AGM-129_ACM_-_ID_DF-SD-04-03208.JPEG

Any questions?

389 Mich-again  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:43:41pm

woah.. The principal at the Catholic school I attended was arrested for embezzling milk money. link

390 Mich-again  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:44:32pm

I might even have to unfriend him on FB for that. geesh.

391 Stanley Sea  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:45:56pm

re: #389 Mich-again

woah.. The principal at the Catholic school I attended was arrested for embezzling milk money. link

What a jackoff.

392 Varek Raith  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:47:43pm

You can mount your gun on the bed of a pickup.
Image: Nissan_Truck_Technical.jpg

The government mounts planes on its’ guns.
Image: 051128-F-1234P-005.jpg

393 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:48:19pm

A puzzling photo from North Korea

The above photo, released by the North Korean state media agency KCNA on Jan. 20, purports to show leader Kim Jong Eun visiting a new hospital, Taesongsan General Hospital, being built by the national army.

Here’s what confused me, and what also confused the Atlantic’s David Graham, who pointed this out on Twitter, where it puzzled a number of other people: Why is that surgeon dressed like a chef?

394 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:48:58pm

The funny thing about MOLON LABE is, it would actually be a pretty good idea to take the weapons from a society of pederastic slavers that created a culture of traumatized child soldiers.

I mean, comparatively, being a satrapy in the comparatively lax, locally-ruled Persian Empire might be considered better. You know, than being a raped beaten child soldier or a slave.

395 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:49:53pm

re: #379 William Barnett-Lewis

I still have a fair bit of powder & bullets but I’m out of large rifle primers. I do have plenty of large pistol and sold my small pistol recently to a new reloader at my cost. He was pretty happy about that. I may have to see if I can track down some of the Russian made primers if I run out of primed rifle brass before things calm down.

Feeping morons out there making things worse with their paranoia.

Prohibition had the same effect, to make alcohol even more popular.

re: #383 Gus

This is your AR-15. This is the government’s B-52.

Molon labe!

I’m curious as to what makes you think this is a compelling line of argument? I mean, if push comes to shove you really can’t be looking forward to the government using such assets inside the US borders, against its own citizens. Also, the real world track record such air power has against actual insurgencies is rather dubious at best.

Honest to God it just comes off as a different flavor of Derp. At best a kind of “bring it on” polarization that to no small degree legitimizes right wing reactionary fears. There has to be a better way of addressing right wing fantasy than implying that the US military is ever going to be bombing US soil.

396 DelusionDeluge  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:51:56pm

This hashtag is perfect… when you can combine misogyny and racism for a “happy warrior” that’s like telling a little kid they can have both candy and ice cream for dessert.

397 Varek Raith  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:52:09pm

re: #395 goddamnedfrank

There has to be a better way of addressing right wing fantasy

Good luck with that.
Seriously, they seriously think they can overthrow the Federal Government. We are simply pointing out they have no chance at doing so.

398 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:52:12pm

re: #377 Vicious Babushka

Because of all that shit he tweets on the Internet.

What the heck is he talking about? We liberals love Thomas Big Daddy Jefferson.

399 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:54:01pm
400 EPR-radar  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:54:53pm

re: #397 Varek Raith

Good luck with that.
Seriously, they seriously think they can overthrow the Federal Government. We are simply pointing out they have no chance at doing so.

Right wing fantasy should be mocked at every opportunity. In general, this tripe is not mocked nearly enough.

The mainstream media is particularly prone to presenting RW delusions as one of two sides of a story to tell.

401 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:55:50pm

re: #387 Gus

This is your AK-47. This is the government’s B-1 Lancer.

Molon lame!

Show them in perspective.

402 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:56:48pm

re: #395 goddamnedfrank

Prohibition had the same effect, to make alcohol even more popular.

re: #383 Gus

I’m curious as to what makes you think this is a compelling line of argument? I mean, if push comes to shove you really can’t be looking forward to the government using such assets inside the US borders, against its own citizens. Also, the real world track record such air power has against actual insurgencies is rather dubious at best.

Honest to God it just comes off as a different flavor of Derp. At best a kind of “bring it on” polarization that to no small degree legitimizes right wing reactionary fears. There has to be a better way of addressing right wing fantasy than implying that the US military is ever going to be bombing US soil.

WOLVERINES!

403 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:56:59pm

re: #383 Gus

This is your AR-15. This is the government’s B-52.

Molon labe!

I don’t think the AR-15 is the same size as the B-52. Show them in scale.

404 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:58:11pm

re: #397 Varek Raith

Good luck with that.
Seriously, they seriously think they can overthrow the Federal Government. We are simply pointing out they have no chance at doing so.

I watched right wing jack offs masturbate to US military power as used in Iraq and Afghanistan for almost a decade. Hell, at one point Bush had a 90% approval rating because lots of people are go along to get along and love being on the most popular, powerful side.

So, if they do somehow manage to get a few red states to secede are you going to advocate sending soldiers to kill and die to take them back? If not, then why pretend otherwise.

405 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:59:31pm

re: #395 goddamnedfrank

Prohibition had the same effect, to make alcohol even more popular.

re: #383 Gus

I’m curious as to what makes you think this is a compelling line of argument? I mean, if push comes to shove you really can’t be looking forward to the government using such assets inside the US borders, against its own citizens. Also, the real world track record such air power has against actual insurgencies is rather dubious at best.

Honest to God it just comes off as a different flavor of Derp. At best a kind of “bring it on” polarization that to no small degree legitimizes right wing reactionary fears. There has to be a better way of addressing right wing fantasy than implying that the US military is ever going to be bombing US soil.

Well, like what? We line up our bluecoats in rows and they line up their graycoats in rows and they fire volleys at each other with cannon balls?

406 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 4:59:47pm

re: #393 Killgore Trout

A puzzling photo from North Korea

IT’S A COOKBOOK!

407 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:01:44pm

re: #403 Vicious Babushka

I don’t think the AR-15 is the same size as the B-52. Show them in scale.

Here ya’ go.

408 sattv4u2  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:02:03pm

re: #406 Eventual Carrion

IT’S A COOKBOOK!

Twighlight Zone reference gets you an upding on this and one extra for your next post, regardless of content!!

409 sattv4u2  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:03:46pm

re: #406 Eventual Carrion

re: #408 sattv4u2

Twighlight Zone reference gets you an upding on this and one extra for your next post, regardless of content!!

ADDENDUM

ORIGINAL Twighlight Zone ,,, not the version produced and broadcast in the late 80’s and early 2000’s !

410 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:04:20pm

re: #406 Eventual Carrion

IT’S A COOKBOOK!

Clearly you’ve never had Chicken a la MRA.

411 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:04:36pm

re: #407 Gus

Here ya’ go.

412 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:05:15pm

Most of the people engaging in this shit were applauding Bush when he was in power, voted for the man twice and only recently came to realize the grass is greener on the other side. Really, there’s almost nil in the way of self awareness or reflection going on, just more of people defining themselves against some common perception about the opposition. And Twitter is great for that.

re: #405 Vicious Babushka

Well, like what? We line up our bluecoats in rows and they line up their graycoats in rows and they fire volleys at each other with cannon balls?

How about just letting them go.

413 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:06:02pm

re: #412 goddamnedfrank

Most of the people engaging in this shit were applauding Bush when he was in power, voted for the man twice and only recently came to realize the grass is greener on the other side. Really, there’s almost nil in the way of self awareness or reflection going on, just more of people defining themselves against some common perception about the opposition. And Twitter is great for that.

How about just letting them go.

Go where?

414 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:08:28pm

re: #413 Vicious Babushka

Go where?

Their own way. Secede, if they want to.

415 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:08:38pm

re: #411 Vicious Babushka

Ha! I knew you’d put these to good use. :D

416 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:09:02pm

If all wingnuts do about “secessions” is babble about it on Twitter and Facebook, we can just point and laugh.

If some state legislature actually votes to withdraw from the Union, Federal gov. can put an end to that real quick, they won’t even have to arrest the entire state legislature like Lincoln did with Maryland.

417 EPR-radar  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:09:27pm

re: #404 goddamnedfrank

I watched right wing jack offs masturbate to US military power as used in Iraq and Afghanistan for almost a decade. Hell, at one point Bush had a 90% approval rating because lots of people are go along to get along and love being on the most popular, powerful side.

So, if they do somehow manage to get a few red states to secede are you going to advocate sending soldiers to kill and die to take them back? If not, then why pretend otherwise.

For my part, I would. I prefer that the issue of seccession from the US remain settled once and for all by the civil war, but if some knuckleheads want to go for lost cause version 2.0, on their own heads be it.

The last thing we need are miniature failed states on US borders or within the country. Furthermore, any state that would secede from the US would promptly create a humanitarian crisis by severely oppressing some fraction of its inhabitants.

418 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:10:08pm

re: #411 Vicious Babushka

I find a better transliteration of that Greek phrase to be “Moron Label”, just in case you want to use that instead… /// ;)

You’d think they’d at least use the Texican flag with the star, canon & “come and take it” on it since at least that would be North American history, but no, they worship the worst elements of Greek civilization instead. < shakes head >

419 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:13:55pm

What would they call their new Confederacy?

A Confederacy of Dunces
Walmartistan
AynRandLand
Kochtopia
Texas

420 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:15:39pm

re: #416 Vicious Babushka

If some state legislature actually votes to withdraw from the Union, Federal gov. can put an end to that real quick, they won’t even have to arrest the entire state legislature like Lincoln did with Maryland.

But why? What’s the compelling interest in doing that, beyond simply imposing our will. This won’t be like the 1800’s, when every state that left openly stated that maintaining slavery was the reason.

If you’re openly advocating the use of massive military power to bring them to bear, fine I guess, but lets be honest about what that means, huge numbers of American casualties.

I’m just not convinced that should such a situation come to pass that popular will for forcing any fleeing states back into the fold will be (or even should be) there.

421 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:18:03pm

re: #420 goddamnedfrank

Physically speaking, we cannot separate. We cannot remove our respective sections from each other nor build an impassable wall between them. A husband and wife may be divorced and go out of the presence and beyond the reach of each other; but the different parts of our country cannot do this.—Abraham Lincoln

1st Inaugural Address, 1861

422 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:19:00pm
Plainly, the central idea of secession is the essence of anarchy. A majority, held in restraint by constitutional checks and limitations and always changing easily with deliberate changes of popular opinins and sentiments, is the only true sovereign of a free people. Whoever rejects it does of necessity fly to anarchy or despotism. Unanimity is impossible; the rule of a minority, as a permanent arrangement, is wholly inadmissible; so that, rejecting the majority principle, anarchy or despotism in some form is all that is left.—Abraham Lincoln

1st Inaugural Address, 1861

423 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:20:19pm

re: #421 Vicious Babushka

That’s a one hundred and fifty year old raw assertion, not a compelling interest. The compelling interest at the time, in my opinion, was to ensure that slavery ended.

424 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:23:07pm

re: #361 Varek Raith

GAU-8; there’s a sound you never forget.

You will if it hits you.

425 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:23:14pm

re: #423 goddamnedfrank

That’s a one hundred and fifty year old raw assertion, not a compelling interest. The compelling interest at the time, in my opinion, was to ensure that slavery ended.

No, Lincoln was concerned that Secession would destroy democracy. Slavery did not become an issue until later on in the war.

426 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:24:25pm
First Inaugural Address March 4, 1861

I hold that, in contemplation of universal law, and of the Constitution, the union of these States is perpetual….It follows….that no State, upon its own mere motion, can lawfully get out of the Union; that resolves and ordinances to that effect are legally void; and that acts of violence, within any State or States, against the authority of the United States, are insurrectionary or revolutionary, according to circumstances. I, therefore, consider that, in view of the Constitution and the laws, the Union is unbroken.

I am pretty certain that NPS.gov would not promote fake quotes.

427 EPR-radar  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:29:41pm

re: #425 Vicious Babushka

No, Lincoln was concerned that Secession would destroy democracy. Slavery did not become an issue until later on in the war.

Slavery was always the primary issue. At first, Lincoln tried to do what he could to stave off secession and fight the civil war without directly confronting the slavery issue.

428 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:33:41pm

re: #414 goddamnedfrank

Their own way. Secede, if they want to.

Well, first off there’s the problem of the people behaving this way not being contained in any one particular region. So “secession” would actually look like something the Partition of India and Pakistan both in the debacle of planning and execution.

The other issue is the precise shape of what that What Happens Next is by no means, we all go our separate ways. The rhetoric by this (admittedly small) community is revanchist, authoritarian, and explicitly rooted retaliatory and eliminationist language. If a government is built on that basis, it’s going to be North Korea Next Door.

Not that any of that is really a real concern, because the cadre of genuine revolutionaries/secessionists is small and populated by a number of people that are bluffing, incompetent, or literally unable to act on their plans.

The sadder, scarier, and more likely problem is one of terror action or a few paranoids establishing themselves as “insurgents” within a civilian population they’re hostile to.

I can’t speak for everyone here, but I laugh about this because I’m whistling past the graveyard. Living in KY makes me intensely aware of the paradox of being surrounded by super-nice people that deeply think we need to be a socially conservative Christian nation and are always careful to duck around my family’s secularism, liberalism, and general foreign-ness (see: two-ton Buddha in the yard, Pakistani “family” visiting in the summer). If shit got…tribal…would that courtesy suddenly dissipate?

429 kirkspencer  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:34:54pm

re: #420 goddamnedfrank

But why? What’s the compelling interest in doing that, beyond simply imposing our will. This won’t be like the 1800’s, when every state that left openly stated that maintaining slavery was the reason.

If you’re openly advocating the use of massive military power to bring them to bear, fine I guess, but lets be honest about what that means, huge numbers of American casualties.

I’m just not convinced that should such a situation come to pass that popular will for forcing any fleeing states back into the fold will be (or even should be) there.

Yes, yes it does. And I’d hate every minute of it. But the nation, riven, would never stand again. Once one was allowed to separate, others would follow, and this would continue until we became a balkanized patchwork of bitter citystates, bristling in fear and anger against all outsiders. Because the people who push the separation never forget or forgive, and they would be convinced we’d force them back.

This would destroy us. Logistically it turns a free and powerful powerhouse into a plethora of jack-straws, subject to pickup by anyone with quick wits and deep pockets - or backed by a unified strong military, of course. We need only look at Africa or South America to see the consequences (if we can’t learn from Czechoslovakia, of course. Which we won’t because that was “over there” and they “weren’t Godly Americans, of course.”)

If we cannot snuff this separatism out and it reaches the point of conflagration, of states actually trying to leave the union, then a second civil war is necessary. Lincoln was right. We will hate it. My daughter will likely fight - heck, with that type of war I at over 50 may find myself bearing arms and killing those with whom I’d rather share drinks and games. I may die - my daughter may die.

But Lincoln was right.

It is for us the living rather to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain, that this nation under God shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people shall not perish from the earth.

430 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:35:55pm

re: #425 Vicious Babushka

No, Lincoln was concerned that Secession would destroy democracy. Slavery did not become an issue until later on in the war.

That was Lincoln’s excuse, he scrambled to come up with that fig leaf to avoid having to convince an overwhelmingly racist culture and himself that they were fighting to free enslaved black people. Thank God he was able to convince the Union to go along with the war, but absent ending slavery I’m not sure the price paid would have been worth it.

431 kirkspencer  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:37:20pm

re: #427 EPR-radar

Slavery was always the primary issue. At first, Lincoln tried to do what he could to stave off secession and fight the civil war without directly confronting the slavery issue.

Slavery was not the primary issue for Lincoln in this. He said so, repetitively. His letter to Horace Greeley was not unique:

“My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union.

432 EPR-radar  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:38:16pm

re: #430 goddamnedfrank

That was Lincoln’s excuse, he scrambled to come up with that fig leaf to avoid having to convince an overwhelmingly racist culture and himself that they were fighting to free enslaved black people. Thank God he was able to convince the Union to go along with the war, but absent ending slavery I’m not sure the price paid would have been worth it.

If the South hadn’t fired first on Ft. Sumter, things could have played out differently in significant ways.

433 kirkspencer  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:38:31pm

re: #430 goddamnedfrank

That was Lincoln’s excuse, he scrambled to come up with that fig leaf to avoid having to convince an overwhelmingly racist culture and himself that they were fighting to free enslaved black people. Thank God he was able to convince the Union to go along with the war, but absent ending slavery I’m not sure the price paid would have been worth it.

I’d suggest a fuller reading of Lincoln’s writings. It was, truly, about sustaining and retaining the Union.

434 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:42:24pm

re: #429 kirkspencer

I don’t think it would be North Korea Next Door. It would be Yugoslavia during its civil war.

Any New Confederacy, since it is based on the idea, “If I don’t wanna, I don’t haveta,” will devolve eventually into a area of 3rd World States complete with warlords and militias.

And I’ll say to them, “Sometimes you get what you wish for, and it’s not what you want.”

435 EPR-radar  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:43:26pm

re: #431 kirkspencer

We pretty much agree. The Greeley letter etc. is what I had in mind in saying that at first Lincoln avoided directly confronting the slavery issue.

Of course, the Greeley letter was published while the early drafts of the emancipation proclamation (that freed no slaves) were being worked out.

436 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:45:28pm

MOLON LARB

(it’s a Thai food joke.)

437 kirkspencer  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:46:16pm

re: #434 Romantic Heretic

I don’t think it would be North Korea Next Door. It would be Yugoslavia during its civil war.

Any New Confederacy, since it is based on the idea, “If I don’t wanna, I don’t haveta,” will devolve eventually into a area of 3rd World States complete with warlords and militias.

And I’ll say to them, “Sometimes you get what you wish for, and it’s not what you want.”

My contention is that if we let them start, they’d drag us down with them.

And of equal importance, in all these nations there are at least some who do not want to join the descent to savagery.

438 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:49:59pm

re: #414 goddamnedfrank

Their own way. Secede, if they want to.

“They” isn’t going to include, say, the black population in the South.

We’ve got responsibilities towards them.

439 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 5:56:01pm

re: #414 goddamnedfrank

Their own way. Secede, if they want to.

Do you even begin to realize the refugee mess that would be? In both directions? And that’s without the Ethnic cleansing that would inevitably happen. After which we end up with disease ridden third world hell holes next to the remaining states?

No, the question was settled, permanently, in April 1865. IF it happens again, the answer needs to remain the same, with the spirit of Sherman guiding us.

440 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 6:12:40pm

re: #438 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

“They” isn’t going to include, say, the black population in the South.

We’ve got responsibilities towards them.

I assume that includes us not bombing the States they live in with B52s. I simply think the rhetoric is getting out of hand and that people are feeding off it to justify some pretty disturbing imagery. That the rhetoric, on both sides, is by and large being carried out by the same people who couldn’t get enough of Bush’s wars in the beginning is, I’m sure, entirely coincidental.

441 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 6:15:43pm

re: #440 goddamnedfrank

I assume that includes us not bombing the States they live in with B52s.

Sure. I don’t think the point of that was that the US government was going to bomb places, but that the idea of resisting the government with small arms is dumb.

I simply think the rhetoric is getting out of hand and that people are feeding off it to justify some pretty disturbing imagery. That the rhetoric, on both sides, is by and large being carried out by the same people who couldn’t get enough of Bush’s wars in the beginning is, I’m sure, entirely coincidental.

I really don’t see anywhere near the same amount of jonesing for bombing the secessionary state as I do people talking about resisting the government or seceding.

And anyway: Just let them is not an option.

442 EPR-radar  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 6:16:19pm

re: #440 goddamnedfrank

I assume that includes us not bombing the States they live in with B52s. I simply think the rhetoric is getting out of hand and that people are feeding off it to justify some pretty disturbing imagery. That the rhetoric, on both sides, is by and large being carried out by the same people who couldn’t get enough of Bush’s wars in the beginning is, I’m sure, entirely coincidental.

Thinly veiled agitation for another civil war has been baked into the RW nut house for some time now (at least back to Buchanan’s culture war speech).

443 Charles Johnson  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 6:16:51pm

re: #377 Vicious Babushka

Andrew Breitbart avatar = instant block.

444 makeitstop  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 6:19:56pm

re: #419 Vicious Babushka

What would they call their new Confederacy?

A Confederacy of Dunces
Walmartistan
AynRandLand
Kochtopia
Texas

Jesustan

445 EPR-radar  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 6:22:29pm

re: #444 makeitstop

Jesustan

As a joke, I’m still partial to the partition between the United States of Canada and Jesusland that was floating around after the 2004 election.

446 kirkspencer  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 6:27:33pm

re: #444 makeitstop

Jesustan

With no hint of irony, the Confederate States of America.

447 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 6:30:10pm

re: #439 William Barnett-Lewis

Do you even begin to realize the refugee mess that would be? In both directions? And that’s without the Ethnic cleansing that would inevitably happen. After which we end up with disease ridden third world hell holes next to the remaining states?

No, the question was settled, permanently, in April 1865. IF it happens again, the answer needs to remain the same, with the spirit of Sherman guiding us.

Obama got 32% of the vote in Alabama. I don’t think many of us are going to pass the SCV loyalty test.

448 Mentis Fugit  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 6:31:30pm

re: #444 makeitstop

Jesustan

Glenbeckistan.

(Jesustan sounds like a skin-bronzing product.)

449 makeitstop  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 6:36:08pm

re: #448 Mentis Fugit

Glenbecki-becki-becki-stan-stan.

Now with extra Herman Cain!

450 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 6:37:01pm

re: #448 Mentis Fugit

Glenbeckistan.

(Jesustan sounds like a skin-bronzing product.)

Pfft. Jesus is porcelain white.

451 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:20:03pm

re: #446 kirkspencer

With no hint of irony, the Confederate States of America.

The Confederate States of Amercia.

452 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:26:39pm

That crazy bit of poetry reminds me irresistibly of that lunatic peon “Somebody Blew Up America” which Hamidi Baraka (who is American-American, not Arabic) wrote after 9/11. Both are anti-American, show utter indifference to the facts, and exemplify a mind beholden to foolish rage.

453 chadu  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:30:57pm

re: #325 The Ghost of a Flea

And the new “revolutionaries” won’t be extensively, expensively backed by a powerful wealthy nation.

IF the government wanted to come for them (which, it never would, having BEEN ELECTED BY THEM!), they’d fold like a house of cards.

454 chadu  Wed, Mar 13, 2013 12:21:54am

re: #280 Gus

He. “Who was in America first…” Soultreans. Wonder what he means by that? Gee… let me think. Wonder if it has something to do with America in theory having been “discovered by Europeans.”

My Lenni Lenape ancestors might have an issue with that construction.

455 chadu  Wed, Mar 13, 2013 12:25:19am

re: #377 Vicious Babushka

Because of all that shit he tweets on the Internet.

Because he was a hypocrite, despite being a goddamn genius?

456 chadu  Wed, Mar 13, 2013 12:26:39am

re: #386 The Ghost of a Flea

MOLRON LABME

Moron Lave

“Wash the idiot.”

457 chadu  Wed, Mar 13, 2013 12:30:59am

re: #393 Killgore Trout

Why is that surgeon dressed like a chef?

Cannibalism?

458 chadu  Wed, Mar 13, 2013 12:32:14am

re: #398 moderatelyradicalliberal

What the heck is he talking about? We liberals love Thomas Big Daddy Jefferson.

I don’t. I think he was a douche.

(Go, John Adams!)

459 chadu  Wed, Mar 13, 2013 12:33:35am

re: #409 sattv4u2

re: #408 sattv4u2

ADDENDUM

ORIGINAL Twighlight Zone ,,, not the version produced and broadcast in the late 80’s and early 2000’s !

New Twilight Zone was okay. Be nice.

460 chadu  Wed, Mar 13, 2013 12:36:01am

re: #427 EPR-radar

Slavery was always the primary issue. At first, Lincoln tried to do what he could to stave off secession and fight the civil war without directly confronting the slavery issue.

And, in fact, Lincoln had to deal with his own inured racial opinions. Major props for at least coming halfway above that in 1860s.

461 chadu  Wed, Mar 13, 2013 12:38:22am

re: #431 kirkspencer

Yup; preserving the Union was Abe’s big deal; slavery was an important secondary concern. And when he dropped the hammer on slavery, he kinda dropped the hammer (for the time). But it was to preserve the Union. Human rights were, alas, a secondary concern, IMAO.

462 chadu  Wed, Mar 13, 2013 12:42:26am

re: #450 The Ghost of a Flea

Pfft. Jesus is porcelain white.

Jebus is at least as olive-skinned as I, probably more, and probably has the same size nose.

(The LaSalvia side of my family, Italian/Sicilian: we have big honkers THAT CAN SMELL THROUGH TIME.)

463 Patricia Kayden  Wed, Mar 13, 2013 6:21:55pm

re: #35 Destro

The only thing that can explain this hatred of the First Lady is racism.

True. Perhaps Mrs. Obama is going to have to police her twitter account more carefully. She shouldn’t have to endure racist nonsense from stupid people.


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