And Now, the National Review Chimes In: “Putting the Shine on CPAC”

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The National Review’s Jillian Kay Melchior is ecstatic to find a black man shining shoes at the convention center where CPAC is being held.

With the amazingly tone-deaf title: Putting the Shine on CPAC.

CPAC participants enjoyed a particularly rare service at the Gaylord National Resort and Convention Center: The simple shoe shine.

And yes, they really did use this photo to illustrate the article:

You know that Republican “rebranding” meme they’ve been trying to push since they lost the election? In two days, CPAC has pretty much killed that meme dead.

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1 jamesfirecat  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 8:09:13pm

They couldn’t find a black guy who dispenses wise wisdom to white people in between eating watermelon and playing a banjo?

2 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 8:11:32pm

Shine it as much as you like, but you can’t polish a turd.

3 AlexRogan  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 8:11:38pm

re: #1 jamesfirecat

They couldn’t find a black guy who dispenses wise wisdom to white peopel in between eating watermelon and playing a banjo?

Apparently not.

4 freetoken  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 8:12:27pm
You know that Republican “rebranding” meme they’ve been trying to push since they lost the election? In two days, CPAC has pretty much killed that meme dead.

That meme was DOA. I consider CPAC to be the wake.

5 dragonath  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 8:12:37pm

Every paragraph of that article is jaw dropping

“I was able to create a pension for myself by creating an entrepreneurial activity,” Wright says. He noticed that fewer people were entering the shoe-shining profession, and “I saw that as an entrepreneurial opportunity” – an ethic that sits well with the CPAC crowd.

At events like CPAC, Wright says he’s polished the shoes of some heavy hitters. But—especially at this conference, which seemed to put an emphasis on up-and-coming conservative leaders—Wright takes an appealingly egalitarian attitude to power.

“Everyone’s a VIP in my chair,” he says. And here, “They’re all as interesting as the last.”

6 jaunte  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 8:12:51pm

“Wright began shining shoes after the airline he once worked for defaulted on its pension obligations, driving him to find a source of income in retirement.”

“See, if you have gumption and get-up-and-go, you don’t need a pension!

7 AlexRogan  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 8:13:12pm

re: #2 Kragar (Antichrist )

Shine it as much as you like, but you can’t polish a turd.

Actually, you can.

Adam and Jamie of MythBusters did indeed polish turds, so that idiom’s pretty much toast.

8 jaunte  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 8:13:56pm

re: #5 dragonath

“They’re all as interesting as the last.”

I believe him on that one.

9 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 8:14:01pm

re: #7 AlexRogan

Actually, you can.

Adam and Jamie of MythBusters did indeed polish turds, so that idiom’s pretty much toast.

Even the soft, mustard colored ones with peanuts?

10 freetoken  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 8:14:49pm

re: #5 dragonath

To me the biggest guffaw came from this line:

“…provides a very important service to this very image-conscious group.”

11 EPR-radar  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 8:16:18pm

OK. It is now apparent that the only things conservatives should talk about in public is how trickle down economics is good for everyone, and the pleasures of endless warfare.

Sure this is stupid and demonstrably false, but it is not actively offensive like nearly every other issue they could talk or write about.

12 dragonath  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 8:16:21pm

I’m sure if you ask the NRO guys, they’d cite that picture as proof racism is dead or something. Instead they killed irony. Again.

13 darthstar  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 8:19:32pm

re: #1 jamesfirecat

They couldn’t find a black guy who dispenses wise wisdom to white people in between eating watermelon and playing a banjo?

He’s busy negotiating with Congress on a new budget.
/

14 Irving  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 8:20:30pm

I wonder if he does that charming shuck-and jive as he polishes the white men’s shoes? Maybe a little towel snapping as he sings a merry tune?

Really? Seriously? The shoe-shine boy? And no one at TNR thought this might… oh. Yeah. It’s TNR. Duh.

15 EPR-radar  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 8:21:36pm

re: #14 Irving

I wonder if he does that charming shuck-and jive as he polishes the whine men’s shoes? Maybe a little towel snapping as he sings a merry tune?

Really? Seriously? The shoe-shine boy? And no one at TNR thought this might… oh. Yeah. It’s TNR. Duh.

You just know that 80% or more of the readership see the picture and substitute Obama as the shiner of shoes.

16 Thundermother(it will turn your head around)  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 8:24:30pm

re: #6 jaunte

“Wright began shining shoes after the airline he once worked for defaulted on its pension obligations, driving him to find a source of income in retirement.”

Bootstraps.

17 Lidane  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 8:25:21pm

Remind me again how the National Review isn’t a completely racist pile of shit.

Oh, right. It’s the messaging, not the message. I forgot. Silly me.

18 b_sharp  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 8:30:45pm

Racism has been rebranded as race realism. That’s as far as their rebranding will go.

19 EPR-radar  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 8:33:52pm

re: #17 Lidane

Remind me again how the National Review isn’t a completely racist pile of shit.

Oh, right. It’s the messaging, not the message. I forgot. Silly me.

The National Review is fulfilling its traditional role —- presenting a thin veneer of quasi-civilization as somehow representative of US conservatism.

The veneer is getting very thin these days, and the criteria for what qualifies as quasi-civilized are getting very lax.

20 Thundermother(it will turn your head around)  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 8:37:33pm

re: #6 jaunte

I wonder if the same folks attending CPAC who freaked out over the Scott Terry statements would bat an eye over this crap.

21 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 8:40:15pm

Shockingly, a guy in a service profession that is particularly dependent on tips presents himself as affable and interested in people, and has nothing bad to say about his customers or potential customers.

And clearly his professionalism reflects well on his clients and their compleat worldview, possibly via some sort of magical conduit or stream of unicorn piss.

22 BongCrodny  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 8:40:46pm

re: #9 Kragar (Antichrist )

Even the soft, mustard colored ones with peanuts?

I am absolutely not going to be able to fall asleep tonight.

23 jaunte  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 8:41:15pm

re: #20 Thundermother(it will turn your head around)

I think you had it right, they’ll focus on the ‘bootstraps’ part of the story.

24 EPR-radar  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 8:42:26pm

re: #22 BongCrodny

Kragar went easy on us all. I guarantee that GI wards in every hospital abound with the unpolishable.

25 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 8:43:06pm

re: #21 The Ghost of a Flea

Shockingly, a guy in a service profession that is particularly dependent on tips presents himself as affable and interested in people, and has nothing bad to say about his customers or potential customers.

And clearly his professionalism reflects well on his clients and their compleat worldview, possibly via some sort of magical conduit or stream of unicorn piss.

Note: unicorn piss is really fucking magical.

26 dragonath  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 8:54:49pm

Has NRO ever come to grips with it’s racist past? Like, gee, we’re deeply ashamed of employing writers who swore to uphold the segregationist system? We’re fucking embarrassed we had Ann Coulter, John Derbyshire and Robert Novak as contributors? That we feel just a little bit guilty for considering an anti-vaxx dominionist worth celebrating?

Yeah, I didn’t think so.

27 Ming  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 8:57:53pm

Mitt Romney had the opportunity to show some moral leadership, and stay away from CPAC. It’s unfortunate that he chose to attend, and speak at CPAC, but it’s not that surprising.

28 freetoken  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 9:00:52pm

re: #27 Ming

Jeb Bush tried to steal the high-ground crown (if there is much of a crown to be had) with his little sermonette at CPAC, but no one was listening.

Which is Jeb’s problem in general - no one is going to listen to him.

29 EPR-radar  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 9:01:59pm

re: #27 Ming

Mitt Romney had the opportunity to show some moral leadership, and stay away from CPAC. It’s unfortunate that he chose to attend, and speak at CPAC, but it’s not that surprising.

My question is what is in it for Mitt? Unless he plans to run for office again, shouldn’t he be back to making crooked deals and evading taxes? After all, he needs to fulfill his role as a precious ‘job creator’ and at least provide tax work for shyster lawyers and accountants.

30 dragonath  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 9:03:56pm

Politics is like a game of Monopoly to Mitt, he just passed Go and landed on Mediterranean Ave.

31 EPR-radar  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 9:04:26pm

re: #28 freetoken

Jeb Bush tried to steal the high-ground crown (if there is much of a crown to be had) with his little sermonette at CPAC, but no one was listening.

Which is Jeb’s problem in general - no one is going to listen to him.

From the Huffpost article, it sounds like Jeb Bush talked sanity at CPAC (which is actually insane).

32 BongCrodny  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 9:05:29pm

re: #6 jaunte

“Wright began shining shoes after the airline he once worked for defaulted on its pension obligations, driving him to find a source of income in retirement.”

Not saying these are the facts associated with Mr. Wright’s background, but they could be. Keep in mind, however that it could be another airline Mr. Wright is referring to.

But for the sake of causing a little bit of a stink, let’s assume it is.

United Air Lines defaulted on its pension obligations in 2005.

Glenn Tilton was Chairman, President and CEO of United Air Lines from 2002-2010.

His five-year salary and bonus history from 2002-2006 was listed at $11.05 million.

His total compensation for 2006 was reported at $39 million.

He owns five homes.

He is now Chairman of The Midwest at JP Morgan Chase.

His political contributions in 2012 included $2,500 to Romney Victory Inc., $2,500 to Romney for President, Inc., $7,500 to Bohner for Speaker, $2,500 to the McConnell Senate Committee ‘14, $2,500 to Tim Kaine and $300 to Obama for America.

Nice fucking work if you can get it.

33 dragonath  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 9:06:41pm

You know, this NRO article practically defines the phrase “mighty white”

34 EPR-radar  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 9:08:56pm

re: #32 BongCrodny

One thing I’d like to see is any company that defaults on its pension obligation also has to default to the exact same degree on all future obligations it has to its executives.

35 AlexRogan  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 9:22:13pm

Is it wrong of me to think of the Tommy vs. Billy Batts incident in Goodfellas, where these CPAC pricks play the role of Billy Batts?

/we all know what happened to Batts after he told Tommy to get his shine box…

36 Tigger2005  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 9:28:58pm

re: #27 Ming

Mitt Romney had the opportunity to show some moral leadership, and stay away from CPAC. It’s unfortunate that he chose to attend, and speak at CPAC, but it’s not that surprising.

I doubt the notion that CPAC is something you steer away from to show moral leadership ever occurred to him. In fact “moral leadership”is probably an alien notion to him.

37 freetoken  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 9:41:05pm

PZed tackles the latest numbers-as-magic proposal by the IDiots, who unfortunately in this instance were helped my for-profit journal publisher Elsevier, who seems more than willing these days to let their journals print about anything:

The Genetic Code is not a synonym for the Bible Code

38 Gus  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 9:42:22pm

Poor Scott. It’s kind of tragic that he likes the Mustang and I once wanted to be a photographer in the Navy.

39 darthstar  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 9:43:48pm

re: #38 Gus

Poor Scott. It’s kind of tragic that he likes the Mustang and I once wanted to be a photographer in the Navy.

The Mustang II was a pretty hot ride.

// need I?

40 dragonath  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 9:45:49pm

Nice page, Gus.

41 Gus  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 9:46:37pm

re: #39 darthstar

The Mustang II was a pretty hot ride.

// need I?

Dude’s manic. I was listening to him earlier talk about Apologetics. He was shaking like a leaf. Hates teh Juice too. Really freaky stuff that Kinism.

42 palomino  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 9:50:17pm

Heckuva minority outreach, CPAC.

The three black guys getting attention today:

1) a shoe shiner
2) a guy who got thrown out after being screamed at that he’s not really black and race doesn’t exist
3) a panel leader who was told by a neo-confed CPACer that Frederick Douglass should have been thankful for the “free” food and lodging.

43 palomino  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 9:57:16pm

All in all, where does this CPAC rank compared to other recent ones?

Or is that like trying to compare Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan and Lebron James? All so “great” that there’s very little air separating them.

44 HappyWarrior  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 10:02:45pm

re: #42 palomino

Heckuva minority outreach, CPAC.

The three black guys getting attention today:

1) a shoe shiner
2) a guy who got thrown out after being screamed at that he’s not really black and race doesn’t exist
3) a panel leader who was told by a neo-confed CPACer that Frederick Douglass should have been thankful for the “free” food and lodging.

As I said earlier today, if I were a conservative, I’d be embarrassed to have CPAC speaking for me.

45 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 10:04:02pm

This is the only song about shoe shining I know of:

46 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 10:06:05pm

re: #45 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society

This is the only song about shoe shining I know of:

[Embedded content]

47 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 10:14:23pm

re: #46 Kragar (Antichrist )

[Embedded content]

Thirty years later:

48 Gus  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 10:18:24pm

re: #40 dragonath

Nice page, Gus.

Thanks. Almost gave up and decided to make it a visual. I used to be able to write walls of text in my 20s. Anyway, Tea Party guy makes friends with some nutty white nationalist Kinism weirdo that probably thinks of him as 3/5ths a man. Film at 11. Ain’t conservatism grand?

49 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 10:20:46pm

re: #48 Gus

Thanks. Almost gave up and decided to make it a visual. I used to be able to write walls of text in my 20s. Anyway, Tea Party guy makes friends with some nutty white nationalist Kinism weirdo that probably thinks of him as 3/5ths a man. Film at 11. Ain’t conservatism grand?

It’s not cognitive dissonance, it’s cognitive disconnection.

50 dragonath  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 10:25:34pm

re: #48 Gus

The goofy “we work for a living” graphic reminds me of that stupid We Built That thing that was going on over the summer. I’m sure that you noticed that the racist cartoon is from the same “artist” whose stuff was on one of those recently highlighted twitter feeds.

51 austin_blue  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 10:41:33pm

*groan*

52 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 10:44:39pm
53 Gus  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 10:45:24pm

re: #52 wrenchwench

Boom! The referrers are lighting up. :D

54 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 10:47:13pm

re: #53 Gus

Boom! The referrers are lighting up. :D

She has a few followers.

Followers
13,707

I have 62. :)

55 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 10:48:35pm

re: #48 Gus

Thanks. Almost gave up and decided to make it a visual. I used to be able to write walls of text in my 20s. Anyway, Tea Party guy makes friends with some nutty white nationalist Kinism weirdo that probably thinks of him as 3/5ths a man. Film at 11. Ain’t conservatism grand?

I figure that closing statement was less about reality and more about closing ranks: the racist southern guy is brought back into the fold rather than cast out. And it’s set in direct contrast to the not-conservative woman who asked an interrupting question, so was so rude that there was no reason to dialogue with or tolerate her. So rude is contrast to unabashedly racist.

That’s a measure of something ugly.

56 Gus  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 10:49:03pm

re: #54 wrenchwench

She has a few followers.

I have 62. :)

I’ve got 671. Goes up and down depending on my mood. You know how I get. =)

57 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 10:53:06pm
58 dragonath  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 10:54:14pm

Were you being followed by Benjy Sarlin before, Gus?

Nevermind. I’m blind.

59 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 10:56:33pm
▼ Tweeted Pages

Gus 802
Memes: The #Emptywheel, World Net Daily, Weekly Standard Oath Taking Brennan #Derp Fest (102)


Gus 802
About Scott Terry - CPAC Slavery Defender and Disenfranchised Whites Illustrated (73)

Don’t look back, you’re gaining on yourself.

60 Gus  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 11:00:00pm

re: #59 wrenchwench

Don’t look back, you’re gaining on yourself.

I sting like a bee. :D

61 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 11:04:14pm

re: #60 Gus

I sting like a bee. :D

You might float like a butterfly over to this commenter.

Jesus christ, you people are stupid.

[…]

Not sure who he’s referring to…

62 Gus  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 11:07:03pm

re: #61 wrenchwench

You might float like a butterfly over to this commenter.

Not sure who he’s referring to…

Just another nut. Summarily down dinged.

63 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 11:09:14pm

re: #62 Gus

Just another nut. Summarily down dinged.

Is that any way to treat a hatchling…..

64 Gus  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 11:10:20pm

re: #63 wrenchwench

Is that any way to treat a hatchling…..

I know. But I see no hope. :D

65 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 11:13:12pm
66 Mich-again  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 11:19:45pm

I for one am glad that the GOP has this little shindig every year to reinforce in everyone’s mind what they really stand for. The Democrats could use CPAC footage in campaign ads. It’s that bad.

67 Gus  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 11:21:22pm
68 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 11:37:47pm

Image: h5AEBBE94.jpg

Later, lizards.

69 freetoken  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 11:43:31pm

Oh look, a news wire company noticed something:

Segregationists show up at CPAC panel

70 freetoken  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 11:48:40pm
71 chadu  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 12:30:41am

re: #47 wrenchwench

Even Better:

72 Kragar (Antichrist )  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 2:10:12am

Steubenville, Ohio, rape and India gang rape show India isn’t so ‘backward’

Indian reaction to the New Delhi gang rape is in many ways more promising than American reactions to US rapes. Take the Steubenville, Ohio, case, which hasn’t generated the same public outrage as the case in India. Indian protesters’ calls for justice are a heartening sign of progress.

73 EdDantes  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 2:36:51am

re: #72 Kragar (Antichrist )

I would have guessed that the incidences of rape were higher in the west so that is no surprise. Although India does lead in bride burning.

74 freetoken  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 2:50:37am

Ok, so nobody has that latin feeling… so let’s do some Borodin:

75 EdDantes  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 3:03:58am

re: #74 freetoken

Borodin inspired the song Stranger in Paradise from his polovtsian dances.

76 Targetpractice  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 3:16:49am

Ya gotta love it. Thursday seemed to be the day of GOP mea culpas, with various calls for the GOP to moderate their message and to make serious outreach efforts to those minority voter blocs that they need to remain a viable party.

Then Friday comes and all their speakers and guests pretty much go “Forget everything you heard yesterday, we’re every bit the loons we’ve always been and you need to accept that.”

77 Targetpractice  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 3:40:58am

And on the sequester front, that regular at our sub shop that I’ve talked about, the rich business owner who’s every bit the stereotypical Republican? Yeah, he came in yesterday with a hang-dog look and admitted out loud that the sequester is kicking his company’s ass. His is an IT company that does contract work for the DoD and it’s already lost 9 workers and will likely lose more before things are over, while the company’s production is already 73% down from its previous high.

But I’ll bet, if I’d asked him, he’d say that he thinks the problem is not the sequester entirely, just the defense portion, and he thinks that the Dems need to agree to entitlement “reform” in order to protect his business.

78 BongCrodny  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 4:09:52am

re: #43 palomino

All in all, where does this CPAC rank compared to other recent ones?

Or is that like trying to compare Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan and Lebron James? All so “great” that there’s very little air separating them.

I’d kinda go with David Spade, Rob Schneider and Pauly Shore instead of those three guys, but that’s just me.

79 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 6:33:50am

How is it?

80 wrenchwench  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 6:36:21am

re: #71 chadu

Even Better:

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That’s very cool, but ‘Better’ than Ry Cooder, or than Johnny Cash, are very high bars.

81 chadu  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 6:54:48am

re: #80 wrenchwench

That’s very cool, but ‘Better’ than Ry Cooder, or than Johnny Cash, are very high bars.

But but but… The vid I posted *is* Johny Cash with some extra back-beats, rearranged lyrics, and some masterful mixing.

82 wrenchwench  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 7:02:57am

re: #81 chadu

But but but… The vid I posted *is* Johny Cash with some extra back-beats, rearranged lyrics, and some masterful mixing.

New and Improved? Matter of opinion, I suppose.

The Cooder is the one to beat, IMHO.

bbl

83 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 7:05:08am

More in the mood for this after reading Gus’ page…

84 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 7:24:03am

Good morning lizards!

85 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 7:26:30am

re: #83 William Barnett-Lewis

More in the mood for this after reading Gus’ page…

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Looks like another front page promotion for Gus.

86 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 7:26:49am

re: #84 NJDhockeyfan

Good morning lizards!

No such thing.

*grr*

I hate mornings.

87 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 7:28:26am

re: #86 FemNaziBitch

No such thing.

*grr*

I hate mornings.

I have to work today. I would rather be working on my house.

88 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 7:29:41am

RC Church is so fucked.

‘Paedophilia not criminal condition’ says Durban cardinal

direct link, also paged

89 Eventual Carrion  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 7:31:13am

re: #86 FemNaziBitch

No such thing.

*grr*

I hate mornings.

Snow/ice mix been coming down all morning. Just gonna hibernate today.

90 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 7:31:59am

Where is KT?

Extinct frog hops back into the gene pool

In what may be considered an early Easter miracle, an extinct species of native frog has begun its rise from the dead.

Australian scientists have grown embryos containing the revived DNA of the extinct gastric-brooding frog, the crucial first step in their attempt to bring a species back to life.

The team from the aptly named Lazarus project inserted the dead genetic material of the extinct amphibian into the donor eggs of another species of living frog, a process similar to the technique used to create the cloned sheep Dolly. The eggs continued to grow into three-day-old embryos, known as blastulas.

“This is the first time this technique has been achieved for an extinct species,” said one of the project scientists, conservation biologist Michael Mahony.

While many scientists have argued it would be impossible to bring a species back from the dead like in the film Jurassic Park, the Lazarus project’s breakthrough suggested the revival of extinct species was no longer the realm of science fiction.

Over five years the team led by University of NSW palaeontologist Mike Archer painstakingly inserted DNA extracted from a frozen specimen of the bizarre gastric-brooding frog, which incubated its eggs in its stomach before giving birth through its mouth, into hundreds of donor eggs from a distant relative, the great barred frog, whose DNA had been deactivated by UV light.

91 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 7:34:20am

re: #88 FemNaziBitch

He said he knew at least two priests, who became paedophiles after themselves being abused as children.


“Now don’t tell me that those people are criminally responsible like somebody who chooses to do something like that. I don’t think you can really take the position and say that person deserves to be punished. He was himself damaged.”

They’re criminally responsible. I was raped as a child. While there are ways that sexual abuse can make someone more likely to become an abuser, it is still their responsibility and a choice every step of the way. Maybe it’s not a choice to have feelings of pedophilia; it’s certainly a choice to act on them.

92 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 7:41:33am
93 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 7:50:59am

re: #91 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

They’re criminally responsible. I was raped as a child. While there are ways that sexual abuse can make someone more likely to become an abuser, it is still their responsibility and a choice every step of the way. Maybe it’s not a choice to have feelings of pedophilia; it’s certainly a choice to act on them.

For the few, the select, the Priests: Free will does not apply.

I guess they get an “opt-out” clause with their Ordination Papers.

94 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 7:53:57am

re: #91 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

They’re criminally responsible. I was raped as a child. While there are ways that sexual abuse can make someone more likely to become an abuser, it is still their responsibility and a choice every step of the way. Maybe it’s not a choice to have feelings of pedophilia; it’s certainly a choice to act on them.

This should be the biggest story of the century. What those of us who grew-up in the church have always known: There is a Double Standard—in the Church not all animals are equal in G-d’s eyes.

NOT ONE PENNY.

95 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 7:59:11am

Pope Francis wants ‘poor Church for the poor’

Of course he does, the poor and ignorant keep him in steak and Gucci shoes.

96 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 7:59:21am
97 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 8:00:03am

re: #95 FemNaziBitch

Pope Francis wants ‘poor Church for the poor’

Of course he does, the poor and ignorant keep him in steak and Gucci shoes.

No, he himself actually has lived an abstemious lifestyle. There’s hope that he might actually reform the Curia. Of all his sins, greed isn’t one of them, and he’s spoken out about ‘princes of the church’ living it up.

98 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 8:02:19am

On a more awesome note:

loc.gov

Just another thing our government does for us and we take for granted. Look at this amazing shit from the Library of Congress.

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99 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 8:02:39am

re: #95 FemNaziBitch

Pope Francis wants ‘poor Church for the poor’

Of course he does, the poor and ignorant keep him in steak and Gucci shoes.

Meh, he’s a Jesuit. (Good piece on that here: religion.blogs.cnn.com ) If nothing else, he’s sincere in his vow of poverty. Now the people in the Curia that he will now be governing? They do think that way and the battle between him and them will define if the church of Rome has any relevance in the foreseeable future.

100 Bear  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 8:04:56am

Will shortly be heading out to see if the fish are in Salt Creek, Death Valley yet. The weather is to be a little bit cooler today than it was yesterday - only 98 today.

101 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 8:06:11am

re: #97 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

No, he himself actually has lived an abstemious lifestyle. There’s hope that he might actually reform the Curia. Of all his sins, greed isn’t one of them, and he’s spoken out about ‘princes of the church’ living it up.

I don’t know Obdi, I seen 3 (maybe 4) Popes now and I don’t think the church will change. It’s always been a den of vipers. On the local Parish Level, you can get some dediated people, but at the Vatican Level, it’s worse than Washington D.C. could ever be.

If we see some transparency regarding finances, I might start to believe.

102 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 8:06:12am

It’s so weird that so many people tell themselves that the government is incompetent, over and over again, while stuff like the Library of Congress exists. Why do they need to lie to themselves?

If they didn’t vote based on that idiotic belief it wouldn’t be as bad, but they do.

103 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 8:06:35am

re: #99 William Barnett-Lewis

Meh, he’s a Jesuit. (Good piece on that here: [Link: religion.blogs.cnn.com…] ) If nothing else, he’s sincere in his vow of poverty. Now the people in the Curia that he will now be governing? They do think that way and the battle between him and them will define if the church of Rome has any relevance in the foreseeable future.

ah, I know Jesuits. They eat steak.

104 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 8:07:03am

re: #99 William Barnett-Lewis

Meh, he’s a Jesuit. (Good piece on that here: [Link: religion.blogs.cnn.com…] ) If nothing else, he’s sincere in his vow of poverty. Now the people in the Curia that he will now be governing? They do think that way and the battle between him and them will define if the church of Rome has any relevance in the foreseeable future.

Jesuits don’t take a vow of poverty.

105 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 8:07:16am

re: #101 FemNaziBitch

Oh, I don’t think he’ll succeed. The power base in the Vatican is too entrenched. Unless he moves, very, very boldly from the start and just shocks the Curia by imposing a vow of poverty on everyone or something whatever he does will be rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

106 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 8:07:28am

re: #98 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

On a more awesome note:

[Link: www.loc.gov…]

Just another thing our government does for us and we take for granted. Look at this amazing shit from the Library of Congress.

Image: 3b48562r.jpg

Image: 3g04164r.jpg

Image: 3g04240r.jpg

Image: 3b49031r.jpg

LOC is truly awesome. As is the National Archives.

107 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 8:09:00am

re: #105 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Oh, I don’t think he’ll succeed. The power base in the Vatican is too entrenched. Unless he moves, very, very boldly from the start and just shocks the Curia by imposing a vow of poverty on everyone or something whatever he does will be rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

Starting out by using the phrase princes of the church isn’t a good thing, IMHO.

108 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 8:10:12am
109 Stanley Sea  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 8:18:39am

Good morning! Everyone excited for Sister Sarah’s CPAC routine today?

110 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 8:19:39am

re: #104 FemNaziBitch

Jesuits don’t take a vow of poverty.

Yes, they do.

In 1534, Ignatius and six other young men, including St. Francis Xavier and Bl. Pierre Favre, gathered and professed vows of poverty, chastity, and later obedience, including a special vow of obedience to the Pope.

en.wikipedia.org

The same vows are still required. The new pope was officially released from his vow upon being raised to the episcopate by the Pope but has lived in accordance with it anyway. Whatever his sins, that’s not one of them.

111 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 8:22:56am

re: #110 William Barnett-Lewis

Yes, they do.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

The same vows are still required. The new pope was officially released from his vow upon being raised to the episcopate by the Pope but has lived in accordance with it anyway. Whatever his sins, that’s not one of them.

hmmmmm, I’ve obviously confusing something. Will have to investigate.

112 Lidane  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 8:26:00am

Man threatens president’s life … using White House comment form

An Illinois man was charged with threatening to kill President Barack Obama after putting his message on a contact-the-White-House online form.

Normally, the man’s comments, including — “I am going to kill Obama and no one I repeat no one is going to stop me” — is not the kind of comment the White House site is looking for when it comes to public discourse. But the Secret Service was quite interested and acted on the tip about the Feb. 27 posting.

113 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 8:26:19am

I guess they’ll be dying the Chicago River green today.

114 Eventual Carrion  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 8:27:28am

re: #108 NJDhockeyfan

Photo: North #Korea’s smiling, dancing #missile is a children’s favorite in #Pyongyang twitpic.com

How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb.

116 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 8:33:20am

re: #114 Eventual Carrion

How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb.

Those girls look like they are from the Ed Sullivan Show. Did the PRNK get stuck in 1970?

117 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 8:33:56am
118 Skip Intro  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 8:35:32am

re: #29 EPR-radar

My question is what is in it for Mitt? Unless he plans to run for office again, shouldn’t he be back to making crooked deals and evading taxes? After all, he needs to fulfill his role as a precious ‘job creator’ and at least provide tax work for shyster lawyers and accountants.

He thinks he’s going to be the candidate again in 2016. At least that’s what his wife keeps telling him, or else.

119 dragonath  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 8:36:27am

re: #108 NJDhockeyfan

Best Lawrence Welk show ever!

120 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 8:37:09am

re: #119 dragonath

Best Lawrence Welk show ever!

Bubbles!

121 Skip Intro  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 8:38:11am

re: #42 palomino

Heckuva minority outreach, CPAC.

The three black guys getting attention today:

1) a shoe shiner
2) a guy who got thrown out after being screamed at that he’s not really black and race doesn’t exist
3) a panel leader who was told by a neo-confed CPACer that Frederick Douglass should have been thankful for the “free” food and lodging.

None of which was reported today in California’s two largest newspapers, the SF Chronicle and LA Times.

122 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 8:38:25am

re: #120 NJDhockeyfan

Bubbles!

Don Ho!

123 dragonath  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 8:43:39am

re: #121 Skip Intro

None of which was reported today in California’s two largest newspapers, the SF Chronicle and LA Times.

I hate how provincial newspapers are, or have become. At least the twitter counter lit up on this story.

124 kirkspencer  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 8:47:08am

re: #123 dragonath

I hate how provincial newspapers are, or have become. At least the twitter counter lit up on this story.

I don’t think the problem is provincialism. If’n I had a guess, it’s that large media (such as newspapers) have been brought into the power fold, and so hesitant to publish things that embarrass themselves and their powers.

125 Romantic Heretic  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 8:48:43am

re: #18 b_sharp

Racism has been rebranded as race realism. That’s as far as their rebranding will go.

In the same way anarchy has been rebranded as libertarianism.

126 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 8:53:54am

re: #118 Skip Intro

He thinks he’s going to be the candidate again in 2016. At least that’s what his wife keeps telling him, or else.

This is what Romney’s remind me of.

127 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 8:54:38am

re: #6 jaunte

“Wright began shining shoes after the airline he once worked for defaulted on its pension obligations, driving him to find a source of income in retirement.”

It’s good that Wright didn’t whine, but its extremely bad the airline failed him. Faith was broken in that, which is always a very bad thing.

128 wrenchwench  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 8:54:45am

The stupid-per-minute from Trump would be hard to beat. But hey—it’s CPAC. They can do it.

129 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 8:56:01am

Brat Puppy had his first experience at theP Play Ground yesterday. He loved the slide.

I had to play with the photo in photoshop, he was moving too fast for my point and click.

130 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 8:57:30am

re: #107 FemNaziBitch

Starting out by using the phrase princes of the church isn’t a good thing, IMHO.

Oh, I used that phrase. It’s just another way of talking about Cardinals.

131 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 8:58:25am

re: #127 Dark_Falcon

It’s good that Wright didn’t whine, but its extremely bad the airline failed him. Faith was broken in that, which is always a very bad thing.

I’m glad you recognize this, since I had thought you’d previously advocated throwing over pension obligations.

132 Eclectic Cyborg  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 8:58:38am

re: #108 NJDhockeyfan

I love you,
You love me,
We’ll blow up the U.S.
you see.

133 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 8:58:58am

re: #110 William Barnett-Lewis

Yes, they do.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

The same vows are still required. The new pope was officially released from his vow upon being raised to the episcopate by the Pope but has lived in accordance with it anyway. Whatever his sins, that’s not one of them.

William is correct on that point. The special vow of obedience to the pope is also the reason why Jesuits were fixated upon by a great deal of anti-Catholic paranoia. Another reason was that the Society of Jesus also ran (and still does run) a great schools throughout the world.

Full Disclosure: I myself attended and graduated from a Jesuit high school.

134 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 9:02:48am

re: #131 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

I’m glad you recognize this, since I had thought you’d previously advocated throwing over pension obligations.

If a pension can’t be paid for than it cannot be paid for, but failing to pay it is still a breech of faith. The greatest wrongs of a pension crisis occur long before the crisis becomes acute, as for an entity to promise to aid its employees’ retirements is not a commitment to be made lightly, and that once made should be treated as a debt of honor.

135 CuriousLurker  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 9:07:26am

Feline Overlord problem:

I had to run down to the corner store yesterday, and along the way I picked up a couple of bunches of evergreen leaves form the ground to use them with a new gel printing plate I bought.

One of my cats came over to my side desk to inspect what I’d brought in and immediately went nuts, first smelling them, then grabbing them & tossing them around, followed by rubbing them on her face, and finally throwing herself down on the desk and rolling around on like them as if they were catnip. (Oddly enough, the other cat smelled them and walked away, completely uninterested.)

So I said to myself, “Okay, she’ll tire of this in a few minutes and I can take them back and use them as planned.” WRONG. She then proceeded to lie down on them in the sphinx position and give me The Look™—y’know the one that says “These are MINE now, and if you try to take them from me, I will cut you.

*SIGH* I guess the monoprints are gonna have to wait till later.

136 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 9:07:33am

re: #133 Dark_Falcon

William is correct on that point. The special vow of obedience to the pope is also the reason why Jesuits were fixated upon by a great deal of anti-Catholic paranoia. Another reason was that the Society of Jesus also ran (and still does run) a great schools throughout the world.

Full Disclosure: I myself attended and graduated from a Jesuit high school.

hubby went to Jesuit College. I have to wait for him to figure-out what it is I am confused about.

137 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 9:07:38am

re: #134 Dark_Falcon

If a pension can’t be paid for than it cannot be paid for, but failing to pay it is still a breech of faith. The greatest wrongs of a pension crisis occur long before the crisis becomes acute, as for an entity to promise to aid its employees’ retirements is not a commitment to be made lightly, and that once made should be treated as a debt of honor.

Good. Do you think, for example, that in the case of the airline above, that the compensation for the CEOs and other officers should have been slashed in order to pay the pension obligations?

The other solution, of course, is for the government to guarantee the pensions.

138 BongCrodny  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 9:08:11am

So I went to the VA clinic yesterday to get the bronchitis looked at.

Met a fellow veteran, rather chatty fellow, in the waiting room.

He said he was a 20-year man, and then spent a career in civil law enforcement.

Without prompting, he offered “I don’t know you you feel about Barack Obama, but I have to say he’s not my President and I don’t agree with anything he stands for.”

Uh.

20 year veteran, collecting a pension from the U.S. government, then a career in civil law enforcment — which he’s also presumably collecting a pension from, and now he’s at the VA getting the free medical care.

And he doesn’t agree with anything Obama stands for.

What the fuck is wrong with this picture?

139 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 9:08:37am

re: #135 CuriousLurker

Feline Overlord problem:

I had to run down to the corner store yesterday, and along the way I picked up a couple of bunches of evergreen leaves form the ground to use them to use them with a new gel printing plate I bought.

One of my cats came over to my side desk to inspect what I’d brought in and immediately went nuts, first smelling them, then grabbing them & tossing them around, followed by rubbing them on her face, and finally throwing herself down on the desk and rolling around on like them as if they were catnip. (Oddly enough, the other cat smelled them and walked away, completely uninterested.)

So I said to myself, “Okay, she’ll tire of this in a few minutes and I can take them back and use them as planned.” WRONG. She then proceeded to lie down on them in the Sphinx position and give me The LookTM—y’know the one that says “These are MINE now, and if you try to take them from me, I will cut you.

*SIGH* I guess the monoprints are gonna have to wait till later.

Yes, you may have to choose another design.

140 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 9:09:01am

re: #133 Dark_Falcon

Even though I’m an Episcopalian (of the seriously High Church Anglo-Catholic variety, I’ll admit) I have much admiration for the Jesuits & the Franciscans. Both do great works in the world and live by the vows they have made.

141 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 9:09:02am

re: #138 BongCrodny

So I went to the VA clinic yesterday to get the bronchitis looked at.

Met a fellow veteran, rather chatty fellow, in the waiting room.

He said he was a 20-year man, and then spent a career in civil law enforcement.

Without prompting, he offered “I don’t know you you feel about Barack Obama, but I have to say he’s not my President and I don’t agree with anything he stands for.”

Uh.

20 year veteran, collecting a pension from the U.S. government, then a career in civil law enforcment — which he’s also presumably collecting a pension from, and now he’s at the VA getting the free medical care.

And he doesn’t agree with anything Obama stands for.

What the fuck is wrong with this picture?

He offered his political views for no reason?

142 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 9:10:37am

Since it’s World Sleep Day …

Have a great one all!

143 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 9:11:04am

re: #142 FemNaziBitch

lol.

144 BongCrodny  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 9:12:13am

re: #141 FemNaziBitch

He offered his political views for no reason?

Yeah, but I kept mine to myself. Just nodded politely.

Didn’t even want to take the chance that a screaming match would erupt in a VA clinic.

145 Romantic Heretic  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 9:12:53am

re: #103 FemNaziBitch

ah, I know Jesuits. They eat steak.

Whenever I hear ‘Jesuits’ I think of the movie The Mission. One of those movies guaranteed to make me cry.

That leads to this piece of music, which causes the same reaction.

146 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 9:13:18am

re: #137 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Good. Do you think, for example, that in the case of the airline above, that the compensation for the CEOs and other officers should have been slashed in order to pay the pension obligations?

Yes, absolutely.

147 wrenchwench  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 9:14:03am

re: #133 Dark_Falcon

Full Disclosure: I myself attended and graduated from a Jesuit high school.

My parents went to a Jesuit university. My dad graduated. My mom quit to marry him and have lots of kids. She didn’t get her degree until 20 years later, after 7 kids and a divorce.

148 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 9:15:19am

re: #147 wrenchwench

My late mom told me that women need their degrees more than men. I am inclined to agree.

149 Skip Intro  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 9:15:26am

re: #137 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

The other solution, of course, is for the government to guarantee the pensions.

Wait a minute here. I’d consider that as a last option, after the CEO’s salary, benefits, and assets were attached, along with those of everyone else in senior management and the board of directors, to cover the shortfall.

Why should they be able to slink off unscathed and financially whole while the obligations they were responsible for go unpaid? There’s no way I’d agree that they can just dump them on the government’s back without first doing everything possible to make the pension fund whole.

150 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 9:20:14am

re: #146 Dark_Falcon

Yes, absolutely.

Good. That makes me very happy to hear, Dark, and it’s stand-up of you to say it.

151 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 9:20:46am

re: #149 Skip Intro

Wait a minute here. I’d consider that as a last option, after the CEO’s salary, benefits, and assets were attached, along with those of everyone else in senior management and the board of directors, to cover the shortfall.

Why should they be able to slink off unscathed and financially whole while the obligations they were responsible for go unpaid? There’s no way I’d agree that they can just dump them on the government’s back without first doing everything possible to make the pension fund whole.

Well, I’m afraid the current situation is normally that they do exactly that, but I agree that it’s a terrible option. I didn’t say it was a good option.

152 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 9:21:31am

re: #135 CuriousLurker

(Oddly enough, the other cat smelled them and walked away, completely uninterested.)

That happens with catnip too. We have one cat with no interest in catnip at all.

153 kirkspencer  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 9:21:58am

re: #137 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Good. Do you think, for example, that in the case of the airline above, that the compensation for the CEOs and other officers should have been slashed in order to pay the pension obligations?

The other solution, of course, is for the government to guarantee the pensions.

Yeah. The way that neat bundle of laws got written: government guarantees pensions, but government has no teeth to ensure that a company can’t stuff a bunch of debt into the company using the pension as collateral, pull the profits, and bail — letting the pension protect the executive parachutes. I really wish instead that the PBGC had better teeth and could go after the pirates and raiders. Ain’t gonna happen, but I do so wish.

154 BongCrodny  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 9:23:06am

re: #149 Skip Intro

Wait a minute here. I’d consider that as a last option, after the CEO’s salary, benefits, and assets were attached, along with those of everyone else in senior management and the board of directors, to cover the shortfall.

Why should they be able to slink off unscathed and financially whole while the obligations they were responsible for go unpaid? There’s no way I’d agree that they can just dump them on the government’s back without first doing everything possible to make the pension fund whole.

It’s not just “unscathed and financially whole”; if the Wright and Tilton histories belong to the same timeline, Tilton was more than made whole — his total compensation frigging skyrocketed the year after the pension fund went bust.

This “I’m entitled to everything and you’re entitled to nothing” mentality pisses me off to no end.

I don’t think there was anything intrinsically wrong with President Bush’s “growing the pie” metaphor, but when you grow the pie and the guys up top still take everything, all the rest of us are left with are nothing but crumbs.

155 wrenchwench  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 9:24:41am
156 CuriousLurker  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 9:28:08am

re: #152 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

That happens with catnip too. We have one cat with no interest in catnip at all.

I’m not surprised. I’ve had cats whose reactions ranged from showing a mild interest in catnip to going completely berserk and bouncing off the walls over it.

157 thedopefishlives  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 9:28:20am

re: #154 BongCrodny

I don’t think there was anything intrinsically wrong with President Bush’s “growing the pie” metaphor, but when you grow the pie and the guys up top still take everything, all the rest of us are left with are nothing but crumbs.

I’ve been saying this for a little while now. Growing the pie is perfectly feasible, but the real problem right now is the distribution within the pie. Even as the pie is growing, the share of the pie occupied by the richest is growing as well. That is the real problem.

158 Ojoe  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 10:04:26am

All work is honorable.

159 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 10:13:11am

re: #158 Ojoe

All work is honorable.

Nope. Some of it is dishonorable. Coming up with ways to make cigarettes more addictive isn’t honorable. Working to spread confusion about climate change isn’t honorable. Writing racist songs isn’t honorable. Selling people stuff you know won’t do them any good isn’t honorable.

160 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 10:13:43am

re: #158 Ojoe

All work is honorable.

Who said otherwise?

Apparently you missed the point of this post, by a mile.

161 funky chicken  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 4:22:24pm

re: #6 jaunte

“Wright began shining shoes after the airline he once worked for defaulted on its pension obligations, driving him to find a source of income in retirement.”

And they see this as a positive thing?

Also, has this woman not been in an airport lately? Don’t most airports still have shoeshine stations?

162 AlexRogan  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 9:36:06pm

re: #138 BongCrodny

So I went to the VA clinic yesterday to get the bronchitis looked at.

Met a fellow veteran, rather chatty fellow, in the waiting room.

He said he was a 20-year man, and then spent a career in civil law enforcement.

Without prompting, he offered “I don’t know you you feel about Barack Obama, but I have to say he’s not my President and I don’t agree with anything he stands for.”

Uh.

20 year veteran, collecting a pension from the U.S. government, then a career in civil law enforcment — which he’s also presumably collecting a pension from, and now he’s at the VA getting the free medical care.

And he doesn’t agree with anything Obama stands for.

What the fuck is wrong with this picture?

Basically, IOKIYAR.

RWNJs say they “earned” their benefits, but everyone else in a similar situation are a bunch of freeloaders and layabouts.

/RWNJ logic


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