Oh, and by the way, while the Supreme Court was pondering whether DOMA had a legitimate basis or whether it was simply an expression of reactionary hatred, the founder of right wing website redstate.com, Erick Erickson, contributed this to the debate:
You’re not really loving your neighbor when you’re cool with him staying on the road to hell.
— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) March 27, 2013
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Iwouldprefernotto Wed, Mar 27, 2013 6:11:53pm |
And you thought it would be hard for Eric to fit in on Fox….
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alexknyc Wed, Mar 27, 2013 6:15:11pm |
Every time some overzealous religious individual tells me I’m going to hell because I don’t believe what he/she does, I remind them that whether I go to hell is not theirs to decide.
Always seems to confuse them a bit.
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Dr. Matt Wed, Mar 27, 2013 6:15:55pm |
Erickkk’s outfit consists of wool, cotton, and polyster. He’s wearing mixed fabrics. He’s going to be Hitler’s butt boy in Hell.
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Joanne Wed, Mar 27, 2013 6:16:20pm |
re: #1 Iwouldprefernotto
Yeah, him, Hannity, Bill O and Lou Dobbs…that should be awesomely funny. Derp for miles.
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William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Mar 27, 2013 6:18:23pm |
I agree, Erick Erickson, and that is why I continue to pray you’ll repent and turn away from that path to hell.
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BongCrodny Wed, Mar 27, 2013 6:22:42pm |
You’re not really helping yourself when you believe in talking snakes.
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Gus Wed, Mar 27, 2013 6:24:25pm |
Right. Hell for eternity. Eternity as not for 100 years but for billions and billions of years to be in a state of burning. To feel the pain from hot fire as though a man who feel pain as he is burned to death. For being gay. For billions and billions of years. I think one would have to have a rather sadistic mind to accept such a concept.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Mar 27, 2013 6:26:15pm |
Enjoyed the holiday for 2 days! What fun did I miss?
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 27, 2013 6:27:18pm |
Sorry, but I need to break in to ask for others to report a pair of seriously bad comments by “Billy the Weatherman” (War on Music). The asshole is saying that setting off bombs is a “moral right”, and comparing Greece to Wiemar Germany. I can tolerate plenty of DERP, but saying it is OK to blow up the offices of a political party, even a fascist one, is a clear violation of the forum rules.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Mar 27, 2013 6:28:15pm |
If G-D is merciful why would He send anyone to eternal torture? People are judged by the good & the evil that they do but ultimately all souls achieve salvation.
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Blue Point Wed, Mar 27, 2013 6:30:23pm |
Eric the Lover. Right. Sure. You betcha. I’ll bet if you burn his home down he’ll see the light./ Major Jerkoff.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 27, 2013 6:30:58pm |
re: #10 Vicious Babushka
If G-D is merciful why would He send anyone to eternal torture? People are judged by the good & the evil that they do but ultimately all souls achieve salvation.
I disagree, respectfully.
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Mar 27, 2013 6:32:37pm |
re: #3 Dr. Matt
Upding for Hitlers butt boy!
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 27, 2013 6:32:51pm |
re: #9 Dark_Falcon
Thank you, Charles, for giving “War on Music” the stick.
I’ll get the charcoal going…
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sauceruney Wed, Mar 27, 2013 6:35:22pm |
Because sabotaging the planet to fulfill a stupid prophesy for the promise of an afterlife, is far worse than terrorists flying airplanes into buildings.
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Gus Wed, Mar 27, 2013 6:36:10pm |
“OK, says here that this guy was gay while he was alive. What shall we do with him God?”
“Oh, I don’t know. Put him down in the basement and torture him with a welding torch for 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years.”
“Sounds like a great idea. You know, have I ever told you how merciful and loving you are?”
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Mar 27, 2013 6:36:27pm |
re: #14 Dark_Falcon
Thank you, Charles, for giving “War on Music” the stick.
I’ll get the charcoal going…
He has previously posted in support of terrorists who firebomb medical research facilities. I don’t why he didn’t get the club for that. What a douche.
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Kragar Wed, Mar 27, 2013 6:38:08pm |
And yet these are the same guys who scream about “The Nanny State.”
Fuck you Erickson.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Mar 27, 2013 6:40:40pm |
The only — the only conclusion that can be drawn is what was in the House Report, which is moral disapproval of gay people, which the Congress thought was permissible in 1996 because it relied on the Court’s Bowers decision, which this Court has said was wrong, not only at the time it was overruled in Lawrence, but was wrong when it was decided.-Roberta A. Kaplan, from today’s oral argument before the Supreme Court in US v. Windsor.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 27, 2013 6:45:10pm |
re: #17 Vicious Babushka
He has previously posted in support of terrorists who firebomb medical research facilities. I don’t why he didn’t get the club for that. What a douche.
Just checked that thread and it looks like WoM’s comments have been nuked. Everyone has been deleted.
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Gus Wed, Mar 27, 2013 6:48:20pm |
So this Christian God can control my mind, soul after I die and send me to this hell place for being this big bad atheist yet why can’t this supreme being control my mind/soul while I’m a alive?
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sauceruney Wed, Mar 27, 2013 6:50:39pm |
re: #21 Gus
This is where they burn you at the stake or stone you to death for asking questions.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Mar 27, 2013 6:51:10pm |
New feature - if a Page has a rating of -10 or less, it will no longer show up in the Recent Pages listings, to make room for better stuff.
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EPR-radar Wed, Mar 27, 2013 6:51:36pm |
re: #7 Gus
Right. Hell for eternity. Eternity as not for 100 years but for billions and billions of years to be in a state of burning. To feel the pain from hot fire as though a man who feel pain as he is burned to death. For being gay. For billions and billions of years. I think one would have to have a rather sadistic mind to accept such a concept.
Even for the monsters of history, it seems difficult to justify eternal torment in hell. All crimes/sins are finite, after all.
The customary theological argument that sins are infinite because the offended party is an infinite god is, to put it politely, unpersuasive.
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Gus Wed, Mar 27, 2013 6:56:17pm |
re: #22 sauceruney
This is where they burn you at the stake or stone you to death for asking questions.
Which of course would have been done out of love.
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Gus Wed, Mar 27, 2013 6:57:18pm |
I’m going to intervene, control souls, after death, with those gay people. Intervene for other things, not so much.
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Kragar Wed, Mar 27, 2013 6:57:28pm |
Ah, a creationism debate in an MMO chat, what fun.
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Gus Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:00:27pm |
re: #27 Kragar (Antichrist )
Ah, a creationism debate in an MMO chat, what fun.
Intelligent design would have included tooth regeneration. Amongst other things.
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Gus Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:00:58pm |
If I were going to design humans I’d make it so arms would grow back.
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Kragar Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:02:09pm |
GOP discovers sequestration sucks
We’ve noted previously that outside Washington D.C. — where politicians and reporters obsess endlessly over inconsequential but high-valence things like White House tours and Easter egg hunts — sequestration is beginning to cause real harm, and political pain.
Now, nearly a month after President Obama was forced to issue the sequestration order, the central source of GOP’s real sequestration anxiety is becoming clear.
“I am disappointed to learn of the FAA’s decision to implement the budget sequestration by closing the air traffic control tower in Columbia,” wrote Rep. Vicky Hartzler (R-MO). “This decision is disappointing not only because it presents a safety concern, but it is unwise from a budget perspective as Columbia’s tower is part of the Contract Tower Program that is cost-effective for taxpayers. There is plenty of waste that can be trimmed by administrators implementing the budget sequester and there is absolutely no need to put Columbia workers on unemployment because of the Obama Administration’s poor choices on where to cut.”
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ProBosniaLiberal Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:02:29pm |
re: #9 Dark_Falcon
Greece is turning scary in a hurry though.
Turkey had the best week ever last week though. Hopefully the idiotic hyper-nationalism will be able to stand-down in regard to the Kurds.
Turkey is the reason why I am against the Laïcité version of the separation of Church and State. It can lead to a massive backlash, as being seen now.
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EPR-radar Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:02:42pm |
re: #28 Gus
Intelligent design would have included tooth regeneration. Amongst other things.
Many of the Intelligent Design fools are old men. Do they not have prostates? How is that an example of intelligent design?
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:04:50pm |
Wingnuts are still Tweeting this totally bogus map (2004 election map, not “Gun Violence”)
Want to stop gun violence?Just ban Democrats from owning guns.Here is the problem… #NRA #2A #tgdn #tcot twitter.com/Liberty_1st/st…— Liberty First (@Liberty_1st) March 27, 2013
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:05:07pm |
re: #32 ProBosniaLiberal
Greece is turning scary in a hurry though.
Turkey had the best week ever last week though. Hopefully the idiotic hyper-nationalism will be able to stand-down in regard to the Kurds.
Turkey is the reason why I am against the Laïcité version of the separation of Church and State. It can lead to a massive backlash, as being seen now.
“Laïcité”?
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Kragar Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:05:08pm |
re: #33 EPR-radar
Many of the Intelligent Design fools are old men. Do they not have prostates? How is that an example of intelligent design?
If we’re products of intelligent design, explain the human appendix.
I win.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:06:31pm |
The rationale of Bowers does not withstand careful analysis. In his dissenting opinion in Bowers Justice Stevens came to these conclusions:“Our prior cases make two propositions abundantly clear. First, the fact that the governing majority in a State has traditionally viewed a particular practice as immoral is not a sufficient reason for upholding a law prohibiting the practice; neither history nor tradition could save a law prohibiting miscegenation from constitutional attack. Second, individual decisions by married persons, concerning the intimacies of their physical relationship, even when not intended to produce offspring, are a form of “liberty” protected by the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. Moreover, this protection extends to intimate choices by unmarried as well as married persons.” 478 U.S., at 216 (footnotes and citations omitted).
Justice Stevens’ analysis, in our view, should have been controlling in Bowers and should control here.
Bowers was not correct when it was decided, and it is not correct today. It ought not to remain binding precedent. Bowers v. Hardwick should be and now is overruled.
-Justice Kennedy, writing for the majority in Lawrence v. Texas.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:07:31pm |
re: #32 ProBosniaLiberal
Greece is turning scary in a hurry though.
Turkey had the best week ever last week though. Hopefully the idiotic hyper-nationalism will be able to stand-down in regard to the Kurds.
Turkey is the reason why I am against the Laïcité version of the separation of Church and State. It can lead to a massive backlash, as being seen now.
And Greece is scary, and Golden Dawn are scum. But claim that it is moral to bomb their offices is beyond the pale.
I’ve got the troll over the fire now. Should be good to eat in about 40 minutes.
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ProBosniaLiberal Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:07:35pm |
re: #31 Kragar (Antichrist )
Translation from the Republican: Only Liberals can waste money.
They wonder why people like me want to treat them so nastily, look in the mirror. Though in my case, I admit I am still angry about Norway.
I tend to hold on to things emotionally. The horrific response to Katrina for example. It wasn’t until 2009-2010 that I finally cooled off on that. And I had no personal involvement there.
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Targetpractice Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:09:04pm |
re: #31 Kragar (Antichrist )
They all say the same thing “There’s waste that could be cut to prevent cuts in my district!” But if every agency undergoing cuts has 5% in “waste,” then why are these idiots just whining instead of working together to compile a list of “waste”?
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Kragar Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:14:12pm |
re: #40 Targetpractice
They all say the same thing “There’s waste that could be cut to prevent cuts in my district!” But if every agency undergoing cuts has 5% in “waste,” then why are these idiots just whining instead of working together to compile a list of “waste”?
That would require them to compromise with a democrat, which would destroy them with the party base.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:15:01pm |
Evening lizards!
Enjoyed seeing that troll finally go on the burner. That was a long time coming.
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:15:04pm |
re: #36 Kragar (Antichrist )
You used to eat grass, and needed the appendix then.
Today you need gunz!
//sorta
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ProBosniaLiberal Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:15:32pm |
re: #35 Dark_Falcon
The really hard-line version of secularism. Best known in France and Turkey.
You know, banning of hijabs in Universities and the crappy treatment of the Greek Orthodox Church in Turkey (though, that is also caused by stupid Turkish Hyper-Nationalism). Or the French ban on Sikh Turbans, Hijabs in public schools in the country.
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Targetpractice Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:15:45pm |
re: #41 Kragar (Antichrist )
That would require them to compromise with a democrat, which would destroy them with the party base.
Yep. It’s like all the talk about a “Grand Bargain,” the odds of Republicans allowing Obama any sort of victory are vanishingly small.
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Kragar Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:16:41pm |
re: #43 Dancing along the light of day
You used to eat grass, and needed the appendix then.
Today you need gunz!
//sorta
Sounds like evolution to me.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:18:53pm |
re: #44 ProBosniaLiberal
The really hard-line version of secularism. Best known in France and Turkey.
You know, banning of hijabs in Universities and the crappy treatment of the Greek Orthodox Church in Turkey (though, that is also caused by stupid Turkish Hyper-Nationalism). Or the French ban on Sikh Turbans, Hijabs in public schools in the country.
OK, thanks.
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William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:21:08pm |
re: #10 Vicious Babushka
If G-D is merciful why would He send anyone to eternal torture? People are judged by the good & the evil that they do but ultimately all souls achieve salvation.
I agree and believe in ultimate universal salvation. God loves and that wins in the end. “Love Wins” as the book puts it.
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Kragar Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:21:34pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:24:02pm |
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:25:33pm |
Support Biblical Marriage? TWEET THIS PIC! #tgdn #tcot #SSM #Uniteblue twitter.com/viciousbabushk…— Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) March 28, 2013
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ProBosniaLiberal Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:27:23pm |
re: #48 Dark_Falcon
And it hasn’t helped them. Turkey is a nation hyper-polarized between Nutcase Nationalists and Nutcase Religious Fanatics. There is a reason why the rapidly aging Abdullah II of Jordan is wary of Erdogun. But, of the Leaders in the MENA that is East of the Sinai, the only ones I approve of are Abdullah II and Qaboos of Oman.
France has a massively influential Far-Right that is gaining strength, not losing it. In fact, with the exception of a handful of states mostly in Scandinavia, this seems to be a Europe-wide problem.
Contrast this to the Right in the US, which has become a dead clade walking. Hopefully, there are more people like me on the left that don’t want reconciliation, but retribution for over 2 decades of the Culture Wars and being accused of being Anti-American for being Liberal.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:29:23pm |
re: #54 ProBosniaLiberal
Retribution would be the surest thing to turning culture war to civil war.
Don’t talk like that, PLL. If you actually got what it is you’re talking about you’d be very sorry.
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Jocko's Rocket Ship Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:29:26pm |
I love it. Live a good life, try to respect everyone, but reject what appears to be a cult because I was given free will and critical thinking skills by HIM. God’s Verdict: Eternity of torture.
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palomino Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:31:26pm |
And we’re supposed to believe that this man’s party isn’t filled with bigotry and religious fundamentalism? He doesn’t speak just for himself, but for millions…especially, but not limited to, the red states he loves so much.
This is not how a serious political party or commentator behaves in a modern democracy. Not all developed countries have gay marriage, but few have people with Erickson’s views who are considered mainstream. Truly disgusting, wrong side of history garbage. Worthy only of his segregationist forebears, as he’s strikingly similar in attitude.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:36:08pm |
Good night, folks. My son & his family going home tomorrow, my daughter & her husband are coming! The holiday continues. (But must go back to work tomorrow)
See u at the bottom of the thread in the morning. Don’t forget to Retweet #52!
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CuriousLurker Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:36:10pm |
re: #52 Vicious Babushka
There you are. I’ve been saving this one for you—I’ve heard of this before, but this is the first time I’ve read much about it (emphasis mine):
Of all the surprises promised by the recent TLC reality show “The Sisterhood,” which followed the lives of five Atlanta preachers’ wives, the only one that truly amazed me was the Christian bar mitzvah, an event organized by Pastor Tara Lewis and her husband, Pastor Brian, for their son, Trevor. Brian was born to Jewish parents; Tara was not. Both are born-again Christians, and they’re of one mind about their son’s bar mitzvah as a Christ-centered take on the traditional Jewish coming-of-age ceremony. […]
Their Jesus-fied version of the Jewish ritual is intended to celebrate both Trevor’s ethnic heritage through his father and, even more important, his spiritual identity through salvation. For, in the eyes of the Lewises and many fundamentalists like them, born-again Christians are in some sense more truly Jewish than actual Jews are. […]
Obviously a reality show is no metric by which to judge the reality of anything, but when I dug into the concept of a Christian bar mitzvah — or a bar barakah, meaning “son of the blessing,” as Craig Hill calls it in his 1998 book on the subject — I discovered that the ritual is gaining traction among some evangelicals. It’s an outgrowth of the fundamentalist fascination with Judaism that has emerged and intensified since the publication of Hal Lindsey’s “Late Great Planet Earth” in 1970. […]
O_o
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stabby Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:36:29pm |
re: #24 EPR-radar
Even for the monsters of history, it seems difficult to justify eternal torment in hell. All crimes/sins are finite, after all.
The customary theological argument that sins are infinite because the offended party is an infinite god is, to put it politely, unpersuasive.
It’s not a matter of justifying eternal torment.
It should be 100% obvious that eternal torture is the story that has the maximum possible ability to scare and thus control people. In the same sense it should be obvious that the promise heaven is also meant to be maximally manipulative.
The fact that people don’t step back and notice that they’re being controlled, manipulated, mentally crippled, emotionally crippled to the maximum extent that words are capable of, is pathetic.
That is all religion is, the attempt to use words and concepts to utterly control other people.
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CuriousLurker Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:37:02pm |
Damn, looks like I just missed her.Oh, well. *sigh*
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Joanne Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:39:55pm |
re: #40 Targetpractice
They all say the same thing “There’s waste that could be cut to prevent cuts in my district!” But if every agency undergoing cuts has 5% in “waste,” then why are these idiots just whining instead of working together to compile a list of “waste”?
Because “waste” is never in their districts and it only affects “others”.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:40:07pm |
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ProBosniaLiberal Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:42:49pm |
re: #55 Dark_Falcon
I admit to not being in the best place right now.
My job means dealing with customer service, and I find that many of them are extraordinarily mean people. I can no count the people who are still loyal friends on one hand, and my grandfather just last week bashed me for being depressed and not finding a job in my field that I got a degree in.
That last one was particularly bad.
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Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:43:18pm |
re: #12 Dark_Falcon
I disagree, respectfully.
So do I, but I’m willing to bet it’s for a different reason.
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stabby Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:44:43pm |
re: #67 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi
I’m annoyed that neither of you bothered to tell us what you meant by that. What’s the point of commenting on a board if you’re not going to make your opinion clear to other people?
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freetoken Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:45:18pm |
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Targetpractice Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:45:26pm |
Well, looks like I’ve got a long day ahead of me tomorrow. Old man managed to download some malware on his computer and now I’m gonna have to spend tomorrow trying to get rid of it. This despite assuring me that his copy of Kaspersky is up to date and he runs regular scans.
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Romantic Heretic Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:46:31pm |
I wonder when God died and put Eric, son of Eric, in charge? Did anyone see the will?
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:46:48pm |
Some things from the Syrian Civil War:
Two FSA men patrolling in the mountains of Idlib Province on March 13th. Note that the men are exercising proper trigger discipline, with the man advancing resting his finger above the trigger guard and the man on overwatch keeping his finger near, but not inside the trigger guard of his AKM.
The FSA training vids seem to be doing good for these two gents. They are using their rifles properly, and as a result are unlikely to suffer the sort of accidental discharge accidents seen too often in Arab insurgencies and security forces.
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Joanne Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:46:52pm |
re: #66 ProBosniaLiberal
Family is joyous. My grandmother used to call me weird for not watching television. )Then my “friends” called me cultureally illiterate…so I started watching TV again after not once turning it on for four years.)
My grandmother’s many harsh words still burn years after her passing.
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freetoken Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:47:40pm |
re: #65 Dark_Falcon
How so?
16 centuries of religious warfare followed his decree that there was a new official religion for the Empire.
Without Constantine and his new found fascination with religion, we wouldn’t be arguing about “gay marriage”.
Then again, we wouldn’t be here, too.
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palomino Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:48:22pm |
re: #54 ProBosniaLiberal
And it hasn’t helped them. Turkey is a nation hyper-polarized between Nutcase Nationalists and Nutcase Religious Fanatics. There is a reason why the rapidly aging Abdullah II of Jordan is wary of Erdogun. But, of the Leaders in the MENA that is East of the Sinai, the only ones I approve of are Abdullah II and Qaboos of Oman.
France has a massively influential Far-Right that is gaining strength, not losing it. In fact, with the exception of a handful of states mostly in Scandinavia, this seems to be a Europe-wide problem.
Contrast this to the Right in the US, which has become a dead clade walking. Hopefully, there are more people like me on the left that don’t want reconciliation, but retribution for over 2 decades of the Culture Wars and being accused of being Anti-American for being Liberal.
No need for retribution. We on the left are actually winning the culture wars. And winning is far better than retribution. Revenge may be a dish best served cold, but winning on these issues will demoralize the far right. Which is much better than pissing them off…as we’ve seen for years, a bunch of really angry right wingers does nothing to promote sane governance.
Gay marriage, immigration reform, drug decriminalization, etc., all moving left.
Red state laws on women’s health are certainly a setback. But it’s largely because their state legislatures are 80%+ male. The next generation of female leaders will better represent the overall population numerically (ie, more elected female officials), and they won’t be down with having old men all up in their va-jay-jays.
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William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:48:37pm |
re: #63 freetoken
I blame Constantine for all this mess.
A fair number do. I’m not sure he made all that much difference. The infusion of Platonic thinking into Jewish theology did far more to create the present mess than any emperor.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:49:12pm |
re: #66 ProBosniaLiberal
I admit to not being in the best place right now.
My job means dealing with customer service, and I find that many of them are extraordinarily mean people. I can no count the people who are still loyal friends on one hand, and my grandfather just last week bashed me for being depressed and not finding a job in my field that I got a degree in.
That last one was particularly bad.
I’ve done customer service work myself, so I know exactly how you feel. in the modern age of inflated egos, it often really sucks to have to be the one to tell someone they aren’t going to get want they wanted.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:50:53pm |
re: #77 William Barnett-Lewis
A fair number do. I’m not sure he made all that much difference. The infusion of Platonic thinking into Jewish theology did far more to create the present mess than any emperor.
And without Constantine, would there have been Mohammad? How Christianity grew and changed certainly influence Islam’s birth.
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ProBosniaLiberal Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:51:23pm |
re: #74 Joanne
It’s just on top of everything, which means I am right now in the mental equivalent on this picture.
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Gus Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:51:24pm |
Joseph Kilna MacKenzie - Sgt.MacKenzie: youtu.be/m-PVSK05Ans— Gus (@Gus_802) March 28, 2013
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freetoken Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:52:24pm |
re: #77 William Barnett-Lewis
A fair number do. I’m not sure he made all that much difference. The infusion of Platonic thinking into Jewish theology did far more to create the present mess than any emperor.
Well, in this case I believe that the form was more important than the substance.
That is, if an emperor elevates a religious system above what other people believe, conflict will follow.
The #1 success of the US Constitution writers, IMO, was how they dealt with religion. They were not dumb. They were aware of history, both late and ancient.
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Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:53:11pm |
re: #16 Gus
“OK, says here that this guy was gay while he was alive. What shall we do with him God?”
“Oh, I don’t know. Put him down in the basement and torture him with a welding torch for 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years.”
“Sounds like a great idea. You know, have I ever told you how merciful and loving you are?”
It’s worse than that. Eternity means he’s tortured with a welding torch for 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years, and that happens again 99,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999 more times, and that whole cycle then repeats 99,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999 more times — and even then that’s only the beginning.
If there’s anything one could do during a single human lifespan that would actually merit an eternity of punishment - much less loving another person of the same sex - I can’t imagine what it would be.
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ProBosniaLiberal Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:54:56pm |
re: #83 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi
And then I remember Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Milosevic, and Pol Pot, among others.
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Romantic Heretic Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:55:46pm |
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Joanne Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:55:58pm |
re: #80 ProBosniaLiberal
It’s just on top of everything, which means I am right now in the mental equivalent on this picture.
Hang in there. It’ll get better. I know how much the Right Now can suck. {{hugs}}
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:56:52pm |
And one more from Syria, this time with video:
A Remote Controlled Rifle – The Latest DIY Syrian Rebel Tool
Syria’s current civil war has brought about a slew of ingenious do it yourself weaponry by rebel forces who are up against the modernized Bashar Assad army. In the video above that hit the internet today, we see a young Syrian rebel who has outfitted what looks to be a FN Herstal rifle with a mechanical tripod, a wired connection and homemade computer control system set inside a wooden box.
Unfortunately we don’t get to see the gun actually fire, but we imagine the red button on the operators computer is what triggers the rifle. We will keep you up to date on whether or not another video surfaces of this setup.
The rifle in question looks like an FN FAL. It’s a very good 7.63mm battle rifle, and it is made in the US by DS Arms. So if you want the rifle seen in this vid, you can own it (minus the full-auto ability, of course).
The video:
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Gus Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:57:54pm |
re: #83 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi
It’s worse than that. Eternity means he’s tortured with a welding torch for 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years, and that happens again 99,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999 more times, and that whole cycle then repeats 99,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999 more times — and even then that’s only the beginning.
If there’s anything one could do during a single human lifespan that would actually merit an eternity of punishment - much less loving another person of the same sex - I can’t imagine what it would be.
I better not kill that person. Otherwise I’ll burn in hell for infinity.
//
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klys Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:58:09pm |
re: #59 CuriousLurker
My favorite quote from the article:
Rabbi Rebecca Einstein Schorr, who debated the Lewises in a fascinating (and cringe-inducing) conversation on Huffington Post Live, takes a different view. “Bar mitzvah, by its very language, indicates that the honoree is a Jew,” she tells me. “Belief in Jesus as a deity or savior is incompatible with Judaism. It takes a special kind of presumption to declare oneself a more authentic version of a religion other than one’s own.”
That really is a special kind of special, right there.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:58:16pm |
re: #80 ProBosniaLiberal
It’s just on top of everything, which means I am right now in the mental equivalent on this picture.
And which wingnuts are playing the role of the “4th Divine Wind”?
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dragonath Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:01:22pm |
re: #77 William Barnett-Lewis
{Roger Williams] would write that he saw no warrant in the New Testament to use the sword to promote religious belief. Indeed, he said that Constantine had been a worse enemy to true Christianity than Nero, because Constantine’s support corrupted Christianity and led to the death of the Christian church. In the strongest language, he described the attempt to compel belief as rape of the soul, and spoke of the “oceans of blood” shed as a result of trying to command conformity.
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Gus Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:02:41pm |
DOMA LAWYER: The Defense Of Marriage Act Is Valid Because The Government Recognized Marriages Of Freed Slaves ow.ly/jucce #lgbt— R.Saddler (@Politics_PR) March 28, 2013
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ProBosniaLiberal Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:03:03pm |
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CuriousLurker Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:03:50pm |
re: #89 klys
My favorite quote from the article:
That really is a special kind of special, right there.
Indeed, LOL.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:04:22pm |
re: #93 ProBosniaLiberal
I swear I have heard stuff like this from some Anti-Semites, but I can’t remember the ideology in question.
re: #90 Dark_Falcon
Not wingnuts. Just the me getting worn down, and now feeling a bit of siege mentality.
Don’t give up the ship, PLL. The crew of the Franklin didn’t, and they saved their ship.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:05:39pm |
The Syrian boy soldier with a thousand-yard stare: The sad image of child aged SEVEN
A shocking photo of a small boy smoking a cigarette and clutching a high-powered rifle has emerged from the violence in war-torn Syria.
In the captivating images taken on Wednesday, 7-year-old Ahmed - the son of a rebel fighter - takes a drag from the cigarette and exhales a cloud of smoke like he’s been doing it for years.
With his right hand, he holds the back of his weapon.
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Romantic Heretic Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:07:03pm |
re: #87 Dark_Falcon
And one more from Syria, this time with video:
A Remote Controlled Rifle - The Latest DIY Syrian Rebel Tool
The rifle in question looks like an FN FAL. It’s a very good 7.63mm battle rifle, and it is made in the US by DS Arms. So if you want the rifle seen in this vid, you can own it (minus the full-auto ability, of course).
The video:
Fired the FN FAL nack when it was the Canadian Forces main battle rifle. Very nice gun.
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Romantic Heretic Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:11:09pm |
re: #80 ProBosniaLiberal
It’s just on top of everything, which means I am right now in the mental equivalent on this picture.
Oh yes. The Princeton. Pretty horrible incident.
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Gus Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:11:49pm |
Interesting how people that are always crying about nuclear waste are also the same bunch that oppose Yukka Mountain. Meanwhile, nuclear waste is sitting off the side of many nuclear power plant and sometimes improperly stored or short of funding. If they think Yukka is a poor choice than find an alternative. The Europeans are already doing this. Quit the damn magical thinking.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:13:24pm |
re: #96 NJDhockeyfan
The Syrian boy soldier with a thousand-yard stare: The sad image of child aged SEVEN
“It’s so easy even a child can use it, and they do.”
- Yuri Orlov (Nicholas Cage) in Lord of War, referring to the AK-47.
And no, I do not mean this post to be approving.
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Targetpractice Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:14:13pm |
re: #99 Gus
Interesting how people that are always crying about nuclear waste are also the same bunch that oppose Yukka Mountain. Meanwhile, nuclear waste is sitting off the side of many nuclear power plant and sometimes improperly stored or short of funding. If they think Yukka is a poor choice than find an alternative. The Europeans are already doing this. Quit the damn magical thinking.
What killed the Yucca Repository plan was NIMBYism at its finest. Folks in Nevada didn’t want all that toxic waste buried under their land, while every state whose railroads or highways the containers would have to travel through got tipsy over the idea of a major contamination disaster due to an unforeseen accident.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:15:39pm |
re: #98 Romantic Heretic
Oh yes. The Princeton. Pretty horrible incident.
No, the photo is of the USS Franklin, one of the larger Essex-class of CVs. Franklin survived a kamikaze attack, whereas the Princeton was lost to a standard dive-bombing attack.
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Gus Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:15:56pm |
re: #101 Targetpractice
What killed the Yucca Repository plan was NIMBYism at its finest. Folks in Nevada didn’t want all that toxic waste buried under their land, while every state whose railroads or highways the containers would have to travel through got tipsy over the idea of a major contamination disaster due to an unforeseen accident.
Yes. Which means we currently have nothing. Yes, it was NIMYism but the movement against such sites wasn’t completely controlled by the locals but advanced by irrational anti-nuclear activists. No containment facilities, regardless, is far more dangerous in the long term.
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ProBosniaLiberal Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:17:15pm |
re: #101 Targetpractice
Never mind the containers for the stuff were unbelievably safe.
Persons are smart, people are dumb.
re: #100 Dark_Falcon
I would love to know who The Daily Heil would have us support in Syria. Al-Assad is evil, and the FSA has been hijacked by Salafists and the Muslim Brotherhood. There is a reason why Libya mistrusts the brotherhood, along with King Abdullah and Sultan Qaboos. They are damn good reasons.
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ProBosniaLiberal Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:17:54pm |
re: #103 Gus
See Fukushima. I am correct that waste was stored on site there?
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Gus Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:18:19pm |
re: #105 ProBosniaLiberal
See Fukushima. I am correct that waste was stored on site there?
Don’t know off hand.
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engineer cat Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:19:32pm |
“Stonyfield Oikos [greek youghurt] gets a new Name”
‘oikos’ is an ancient greek work roughly encompassing farm and household. it’s important since it is the root of our words ‘economy’ and ‘ecology’
but it don’t sell no damn youghurt
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darthstar Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:21:05pm |
Awesome facebook reply.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:21:12pm |
re: #105 ProBosniaLiberal
See Fukushima. I am correct that waste was stored on site there?
Yes, stored in ponds (as I remember). No major leak of the waste, but it came too close for comfort.
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Targetpractice Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:21:23pm |
re: #103 Gus
Yes. Which means we currently have nothing. Yes, it was NIMYism but the movement against such sites wasn’t completely controlled by the locals but advanced by irrational anti-nuclear activists. No containment facilities, regardless, is far more dangerous in the long term.
True enough. But the question of what to do with the waste remains an illusive one. Storing it long-term, as in Yucca, raises all sorts of questions about transport, storage, and of course the possibility that this noxious shit might leak out into the environment centuries hence when a witless savage comes along and can’t understand that that trefoil on the door means “radioactive.”
A perfectly viable alternative would be reprocessing, as most of the major nuke users others than us do, but the problem there is less about NIMBYism and more about the irrational fear that somebody’s gonna sneak onto the line and sneak out with a couple pounds of reprocessed nuclear fuel to turn into a bomb. That’s largely a Cold War leftover, particularly the post-Three Mile aftermath when the US realized that nuke power is inherently dangerous and went bugnuts insane with its regulation of such.
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prairiefire Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:21:38pm |
I thought it was the “Highway to Hell”. I will spare everyone the YouTube link.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:21:57pm |
re: #109 darthstar
Awesome facebook reply.
Downding for the Godwin. That really is inappropriate, and liable to start fights.
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ProBosniaLiberal Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:22:10pm |
re: #110 Dark_Falcon
And if I am not mistaken, they also have some sort of special monitoring because that stuff could still get out of hand.
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darthstar Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:22:22pm |
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Gus Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:22:52pm |
re: #111 Targetpractice
True enough. But the question of what to do with the waste remains an illusive one. Storing it long-term, as in Yucca, raises all sorts of questions about transport, storage, and of course the possibility that this noxious shit might leak out into the environment centuries hence when a witless savage comes along and can’t understand that that trefoil on the door means “radioactive.”
A perfectly viable alternative would be reprocessing, as most of the major nuke users others than us do, but the problem there is less about NIMBYism and more about the irrational fear that somebody’s gonna sneak onto the line and sneak out with a couple pounds of reprocessed nuclear fuel to turn into a bomb. That’s largely a Cold War leftover, particularly the post-Three Mile aftermath when the US realized that nuke power is inherently dangerous and went bugnuts insane with its regulation of such.
Yes, but potential military use regulations prevent prepossessing at this time. Forgot the exact regulation on this. But it’s related to possible use for weapons.
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dragonath Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:24:10pm |
re: #115 darthstar
Thomas has been pretty quiet during the hearings…
Oh wait, he always is.
Carry on.
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Gus Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:24:24pm |
re: #111 Targetpractice
True enough. But the question of what to do with the waste remains an illusive one. Storing it long-term, as in Yucca, raises all sorts of questions about transport, storage, and of course the possibility that this noxious shit might leak out into the environment centuries hence when a witless savage comes along and can’t understand that that trefoil on the door means “radioactive.”
A perfectly viable alternative would be reprocessing, as most of the major nuke users others than us do, but the problem there is less about NIMBYism and more about the irrational fear that somebody’s gonna sneak onto the line and sneak out with a couple pounds of reprocessed nuclear fuel to turn into a bomb. That’s largely a Cold War leftover, particularly the post-Three Mile aftermath when the US realized that nuke power is inherently dangerous and went bugnuts insane with its regulation of such.
So reprocess it or store it in a well designed location. Otherwise, people are just blowing smoke and delving into wishful thinking. We’re talking what here? 150K year half life sitting in some podunk state?
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darthstar Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:24:25pm |
re: #113 Dark_Falcon
Downding for the Godwin. That really is inappropriate, and liable to start fights.
This was someone getting Godwinned by her friends for being a dick. It’s not serious Godwinning. I swear, you conservatives are so defensive about what is and isn’t an appropriate use of Nazi imagery…it’s not like you own it.
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Targetpractice Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:25:34pm |
re: #115 darthstar
The past two days, as oral arguments have gone on, TPM made it a point to note that it’s customary of Thomas not to do much of anything during oral arguments but occupy a spot on the bench. Not that anybody holds any hope that he’ll suddenly find in himself an inner liberal that can support same-sex marriage.
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freetoken Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:25:54pm |
re: #99 Gus
Interesting how people that are always crying about nuclear waste are also the same bunch that oppose Yukka Mountain.
I didn’t know about this particular horticulturally bigoted group.
All plant lovers should be disturbed.
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Gus Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:26:25pm |
re: #121 freetoken
I didn’t know about this particular horticulturally bigoted group.
All plant lovers should be disturbed.
:P
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:26:26pm |
re: #114 ProBosniaLiberal
And if I am not mistaken, they also have some sort of special monitoring because that stuff could still get out of hand.
You are correct.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:26:28pm |
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Belafon Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:26:35pm |
Well, we keep trying to save you, Erick, but you just won’t listen.
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prairiefire Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:27:44pm |
re: #120 Targetpractice
The past two days, as oral arguments have gone on, TPM made it a point to note that it’s customary of Thomas not to do much of anything during oral arguments but occupy a spot on the bench. Not that anybody holds any hope that he’ll suddenly find in himself an inner liberal that can support same-sex marriage.
But he can get dinner reservations in DC at the drop of a hat.
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:27:53pm |
re: #102 Dark_Falcon
No, the photo is of the USS Franklin, one of the larger Essex-class of CVs. Franklin survived a kamikaze attack, whereas the Princeton was lost to a standard dive-bombing attack.
Nit pick. That particular attack on the Franklin was being hit by two bombs while off the coast of Japan. The damage the Franklin took off the Philippines earlier in the war was due to kamikazes.
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Targetpractice Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:27:56pm |
re: #118 Gus
So reprocess it or store it in a well designed location. Otherwise, people are just blowing smoke and delving into wishful thinking. We’re talking what here? 150K year half life sitting in some podunk state?
Nuke power, even with the most modern nuclear reactor designs, is still a power source that beats all the others in long-term damage to the environment. CO2 will eventually be scrubbed from the atmosphere, and most of the long-term byproducts of burning coal and oil will be flushed from the environment or buried under the soil. But nuke power leaves byproducts that will still be dangerous centuries from now.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:28:22pm |
re: #126 Gus
Yukka, Yucca. American “English” is a pain in the ass.
‘Specially if you talk out of your butt.
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Gus Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:28:46pm |
re: #129 Targetpractice
Nuke power, even with the most modern nuclear reactor designs, is still a power source that beats all the others in long-term damage to the environment. CO2 will eventually be scrubbed from the atmosphere, and most of the long-term byproducts of burning coal and oil will be flushed from the environment or buried under the soil. But nuke power leaves byproducts that will still be dangerous centuries from now.
I agree but we’re talking about people who have their hair on fire.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:29:02pm |
Hehehe #Cats twitter.com/lovelycatquote…— Cat Quotes And Pics(@lovelycatquotes) March 27, 2013
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prairiefire Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:29:16pm |
re: #108 engineer cat
“Stonyfield Oikos [greek youghurt] gets a new Name”
‘oikos’ is an ancient greek work roughly encompassing farm and household. it’s important since it is the root of our words ‘economy’ and ‘ecology’
but it don’t sell no damn youghurt
But it is a delish yogurt.
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Gus Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:29:53pm |
re: #130 Walking Spanish Down the Hall
‘Specially if you talk out of your butt.
Nah. I’m right. I’m looking at a bunch of folks who have their hair on fire over rice GMOs and something about Monsanto while drinking a box of wine. Or something.
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CuriousLurker Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:30:17pm |
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Targetpractice Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:30:35pm |
re: #131 Gus
I agree but we’re talking about people who have their hair on fire.
There’s little that they’ve not got their hair on fire about. No matter how environmentally friendly you make something, there will be a group screaming that it’s a blight upon the planet and those who indulge in it should be put to the sword.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:31:43pm |
re: #129 Targetpractice
Nuke power, even with the most modern nuclear reactor designs, is still a power source that beats all the others in long-term damage to the environment. CO2 will eventually be scrubbed from the atmosphere, and most of the long-term byproducts of burning coal and oil will be flushed from the environment or buried under the soil. But nuke power leaves byproducts that will still be dangerous centuries from now.
It came from the ground, it can be returned to the ground. Northern Canada has large areas of shield that are highly stable. Drill a vertical tunnel a km down and drop the spent fuel there.
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darthstar Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:32:31pm |
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prairiefire Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:32:46pm |
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prairiefire Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:33:26pm |
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dragonath Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:33:28pm |
re: #137 Walking Spanish Down the Hall
It came from the ground, it can be returned to the ground. Northern Canada has large areas of shield that are highly stable. Drill a vertical tunnel a km down and drop the spent fuel there.
I’ll blame you later, when the nuclear moose start appearing
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:33:54pm |
re: #136 Targetpractice
There’s little that they’ve not got their hair on fire about. No matter how environmentally friendly you make something, there will be a group screaming that it’s a blight upon the planet and those who indulge in it should be put to the sword.
And they panic based on a misunderstanding of the science.
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freetoken Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:34:15pm |
re: #129 Targetpractice
Approximately half the CO2 that gets deposited in the atmosphere will still be there for many, many centuries. Given that about half of the CO2 being emitted is already being absorbed in the upper ocean, the oceans will not be any more of a sink than they currently are. Eventually the pH of the ocean will increase as sediments are continually deposited and webs of living things deal with the chemistry, but this is a very long term process.
The problem with Yucca mountain is simply this - Nevada is sort of swing state when it comes to Senators, so whether it be a (D) or (R) senator from NV, their party in the Senate tends to want to not put them in a weakened position, which has given politics an oversized influence in the Yucca mountain decision.
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Gus Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:34:19pm |
Shouldn’t #Monsanto Protection Act be more appropriately renamed: The Right to Kill US & Laugh All The Way To The Bank Bill? #GMO #GMORider— Joan Lemont (@PositivelyJoan) March 28, 2013
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:35:06pm |
re: #139 prairiefire
You look so studious! How’s the growing boy?
I haven’t seen him in a couple of weeks. :(
He’s coming over with his mom and big brother for Easter supper. :)
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:35:46pm |
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Gus Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:36:19pm |
MONSANTO! MONSANTO! MONSANTO! MONSANTO! MONSANTO! MONSANTO! MONSANTO! MONSANTO! MONSANTO! MONSANTO! MONSANTO! MONSANTO! MONSANTO! MONSANTO!
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:36:32pm |
re: #128 Feline Fearless Leader
Nit pick. That particular attack on the Franklin was being hit by two bombs while off the coast of Japan. The damage the Franklin took off the Philippines earlier in the war was due to kamikazes.
Thank you for the correction.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:36:44pm |
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Gus Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:37:43pm |
Emoprogs harshing on PBO and calling some bill that he signed the “Monsanto Protection Act.”
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darthstar Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:38:00pm |
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:38:54pm |
re: #153 Gus
Emoprogs harshing on PBO and calling some bill that he signed the “Monsanto Protection Act.”
Members all of the Permanent Opposition.
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darthstar Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:39:03pm |
re: #153 Gus
Emoprogs harshing on PBO and calling some bill that he signed the “Monsanto Protection Act.”
We can’t have everything, which is why so many people act like they’re getting nothing. Almost makes me wish Romney won so they could remember what getting fucked with no grease really feels like.
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prairiefire Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:41:39pm |
re: #147 Walking Spanish Down the Hall
Oh, I know your wife puts out the spread. Try to be helpful with the baby. You can promise you’ll give him back. : )
Bury your nose deep next to his ear by his neck. Take a good sniff. That concentration of hormones has made our Homo Sapiens the longest surviving Humanoid species.
Enjoy.
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Gus Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:43:03pm |
re: #156 Dark_Falcon
Members all of the Permanent Opposition.
Homeopathy and holistic medicine works!
//
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:44:51pm |
re: #158 prairiefire
Oh, I know your wife puts out the spread. Try to be helpful with the baby. You can promise you’ll give him back. : )
Bury your nose deep behind his ear on his neck. Take a good sniff. That concentration of hormones has made our Homo Sapiens the longest surviving Humanoid species.
Enjoy.
Little Liam and I will be playing the entire afternoon. I sniff him all the time, even though I don’t really need to. He’s got me hooked already.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:45:10pm |
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ProBosniaLiberal Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:45:46pm |
re: #149 Gus
I’ve been hearing whining about this on my FB friends list, so what is actually occurring with that bill?
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Gus Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:46:25pm |
re: #163 ProBosniaLiberal
I’ve been hearing whining about this on my FB friends list, so what is actually occurring with that bill?
Let me go read…
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Kragar Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:47:02pm |
Pastor Robert Jeffress calls freedom from religion a ‘perverted idea’
Megachurch Pastor Robert Jeffress on Wednesday night claimed the First Amendment did not protect non-religious Americans in the same way it protected religious Americans.
The pastor of the First Baptist Church in Dallas appeared on The O’Reilly Factor to discuss a school in Arkansas that canceled an Easter Egg hunt due to religious concerns.
“I think the reason people aren’t standing up and fighting back — many Christians think it is un-Christian to stand up and fight for your rights,” Jeffress said. “I’ve reminded thousands of pastors this last year that the Apostle Paul spent two years fighting against the Roman legal system to preserve his right to speak freely. We need to do the same thing as well.”
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Gus Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:48:08pm |
re: #163 ProBosniaLiberal
I’ve been hearing whining about this on my FB friends list, so what is actually occurring with that bill?
Hard to find since the moonbats are calling it the “Monsanto Protection Act.”
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dragonath Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:50:33pm |
re: #165 Kragar (Antichrist )
Pastor Robert Jeffress calls freedom from religion a ‘perverted idea’
Mingling religion with politics may be disavowed and reprobated by every inhabitant of America.
-Thomas Paine
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CuriousLurker Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:53:33pm |
re: #165 Kragar (Antichrist )
Pastor Robert Jeffress calls freedom from religion a ‘perverted idea’
ZOMG, he’s pro-Sharia! The Muslim Brotherhood has infiltrated the evangelicals!! Quick, someone go check his house to see if it has a “mop sink”.
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SpaceJesus Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:53:46pm |
re: #165 Kragar (Antichrist )
translation: i’m mad that more people aren’t coming to my megachurch and giving me money
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:55:19pm |
Insert [Incredibly wise, poignant and appropriate quote from a highly regarded historical figure] here.
Win the argument and the Internetz.
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ProBosniaLiberal Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:56:09pm |
re: #165 Kragar (Antichrist )
And we can’t do retaliatory legal attacks by yanking their tax exempt status, why?
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Interesting Times Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:56:11pm |
I just noticed something - deleted stuff still shows up in the Bottom Comments list. I don’t think this has happened before.
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Kragar Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:57:38pm |
re: #172 ProBosniaLiberal
And we can’t do retaliatory legal attacks by yanking their tax exempt status, why?
No reason. We should tax the fuck out of them.
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Gus Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:58:09pm |
Sec. 733. In the event that a determination of non-regulated status made pursuant to section 411 of the Plant Protection Act is or has been invalidated or vacated, the Secretary of Agriculture shall, notwithstanding any other provision of law, upon request by a farmer, grower, farm operator, or producer, immediately grant temporary permit(s) or temporary deregulation in part, subject to necessary and appropriate conditions consistent with section 411(a) or 412(c) of the Plant Protection Act, which interim conditions shall authorize the movement, introduction, continued cultivation, commercialization and other specifically enumerated activities and requirements, including measures designed to mitigate or minimize potential adverse environmental effects, if any, relevant to the Secretary’s evaluation of the petition for non-regulated status, while ensuring that growers or other users are able to move, plant, cultivate, introduce into commerce and carry out other authorized activities in a timely manner: Provided, That all such conditions shall be applicable only for the interim period necessary for the Secretary to complete any required analyses or consultations related to the petition for non-regulated status: Provided further, That nothing in this section shall be construed as limiting the Secretary’s authority under section 411, 412 and 414 of the Plant Protection Act.
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ProBosniaLiberal Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:58:49pm |
I just found this guy from Idaho.
A question. How do the Mormons think of Muslims (I know Idaho is very Mormon-heavy). From the whole thing over the Ground Zero Mosque, my impression is that they use us to protect themselves from well-justified criticism, and bash us when convenient. Is my perception correct?
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Gus Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:59:56pm |
re: #177 ProBosniaLiberal
In non-legalese please.
I have no idea yet since all I’m seeing is a moonbat summary.
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Interesting Times Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:01:32pm |
re: #177 ProBosniaLiberal
In non-legalese please.
I want to see bills written in LOLCAT:
“O hai. All ur plantz are belong to us.”
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:03:36pm |
My head is sleeping. I’m going to join it.
Later.
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darthstar Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:04:10pm |
Can’t wait until the Keystone XL goes in and we start pumping this crap across the midwest…it’ll give us a reason to talk about Nebraska.
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darthstar Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:09:11pm |
Time to close my computer and open my Kindle and read a bit of Clive Cussler before bed…crappy hero fiction…gotta love it.
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Mich-again Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:10:04pm |
There is plenty of waste that can be trimmed by administrators implementing the budget sequester and there is absolutely no need to put Columbia workers on unemployment because of the Obama Administration’s poor choices on where to cut.”
The budget sequester happened because the Congressional “Super Committee” could not agree on even $1 of budget cuts.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:10:09pm |
re: #182 darthstar
Can’t wait until the Keystone XL goes in and we start pumping this crap across the midwest…it’ll give us a reason to talk about Nebraska.
Just think of the union jobs it’ll bring. Lefties like unions, and the steel workers and teamsters like Keystone XL.
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Mich-again Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:13:34pm |
re: #186 Dark_Falcon
Just think of the union jobs it’ll bring. Lefties like unions, and the steel workers and teamsters like Keystone XL.
No it won’t and you know it. The KXL is only needed so that Canada can export oil to Europe, it has nothing to do with economic growth in the USA.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:13:38pm |
Now those wonderful traits that made it such a good candidate for modification in the first place—its notorious aggressiveness and near omnipresence—are no longer such good things, are they? Because if there’s one thing you really don’t want your poison to be, it’s “notoriously aggressive.” And if there’s one place you absolutely do not want your “notoriously aggressive poison” to be, it’s “everywhere.” Keep in mind that this was not a theoretical scenario; far-flung, fictional and unlikely to ever actually occur. This bacterium was going to be released; it had all of the necessary approval. It was only a matter of proper marketing and shipping at this point. It was only by virtue of a random review by an independent scientist (Dr. Elaine Ingham, a professor at Oregon State University and possibly the savior of all mankind) that it was caught in time.
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Interesting Times Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:13:44pm |
re: #186 Dark_Falcon
Just think of the union jobs it’ll bring. Lefties like unions, and the steel workers and teamsters like Keystone XL.
PITTSBURGH, April 9 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ — The United Steelworkers (USW) announced it has challenged the pending federal permit in the controversial $5.4 billion TransCanada Keystone Pipeline that’s using under-standard thin-wall pipe for transport of crude oil from Alberta, Canada to Houston, Tex.
USW International Vice President Tom Conway transmitted a formal complaint to the U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) on Apr. 6, urging the special permit requested by TransCanada be denied. He said the 2,000 mile pipeline is planned using a 36-inch thin-wall pipe at higher maximum operation pressure than is safely permitted under existing regulations.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:14:22pm |
Image: tumblr_mk8edjJdmP1r9khx4o1_500.jpg
Patrol…
A female Norwegian soldier out on patrol in Afghanistan. Note the distinct pad on the stock of her H&K 416 rifle. Norway was one of the first European nations to adopt the 416.
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Mich-again Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:16:30pm |
re: #186 Dark_Falcon
Just think of the union jobs it’ll bring. Lefties like unions, and the steel workers and teamsters like Keystone XL.
And more than lefties like unions dark falcon. Everyone who likes getting bereavement pay for when a family member dies, and getting a handful of paid sick days and vacation time off, and health care, and earning more than minimum wage likes unions whether they admit it or not.
So will you answer that?
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:16:34pm |
re: #190 Interesting Times
They want the pipeline, just with thicker pipe. They still want to produce the pipe sections.
But what the USW says should be carefully examined in this case. That union has a great deal of institutional experience with steel pipe and so its arguments should be accorded some weight.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:17:57pm |
re: #192 Mich-again
And more than lefties like unions dark falcon. Everyone who likes getting bereavement pay for when a family member dies, and getting a handful of paid sick days and vacation time off, and health care, and earning more than minimum wage likes unions whether they admit it or not.
So will you answer that?
I respect private sector unions. They have a needed role to play in some professions.
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Mich-again Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:18:29pm |
The KXL is a temporary jobs program. As soon as it is operational it will only be needed so Canada can export their tar sand extract to Europe.
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ProBosniaLiberal Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:19:01pm |
re: #186 Dark_Falcon
There are better ways to do it.
Like Mass Transit Infrastucture projects. In order to adapt, will will have to become more densely populated, as Oil and Gas will Dwindle. The goal should be Europe-esque population densities. Suburbs will have to disappear in the long run.
In an addendum, I think the big cities should have Architecture Boards to approve of the Architecture of Buildings. Why? A, I hate glass and concrete boxes, and b, I got introduced to this atrocity earlier this week.
That box-on-a-box-on-a-box is 432 Park Avenue. Luxury Condos apparently. The Rich of Today apparently have no taste.
Come on, can’t we build good quality shit anymore?
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Mich-again Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:19:05pm |
re: #194 Dark_Falcon
I respect private sector unions. They have a needed role to play in some professions.
So then you have no respect for police, fire fighter, teacher unions?
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Mich-again Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:21:02pm |
re: #194 Dark_Falcon
What are you like 25 years old? Have you raised any kids? Do you know of the world beyond the comfort your parents provided to you? Where does your loyalty to the Koch Brothers originate?
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:21:09pm |
re: #197 Mich-again
So then you have no respect for police, fire fighter, teacher unions?
For police and fire unions, I have respect. My opinions on teacher unions are a matter of record on LGF; I will not rehash them here.
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Targetpractice Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:21:12pm |
The piping of Albertan tar sands isn’t just controversial down here. The proposed alternate pipeline, which would have gone to Canada’s west coast and allowed the exporting oil said sludge to Asian markets has been pretty much 86’d by British Columbia’s government saying “No fucking way.”
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:21:55pm |
re: #198 Mich-again
What are you like 25 years old? Have you raised any kids? Do you know of the world beyond the comfort your parents provided to you? Where does your loyalty to the Koch Brothers originate?
I’m actually 35. That’s the only one of those questions I’m going to answer.
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Gus Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:23:49pm |
re: #200 Targetpractice
The piping of Albertan tar sands isn’t just controversial down here. The proposed alternate pipeline, which would have gone to Canada’s west coast and allowed the exporting oil said sludge to Asian markets has been pretty much 86’d by British Columbia’s government saying “No fucking way.”
Yet that same Canadian government is still allowing the digging up of that shale or sludge.
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Mich-again Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:24:17pm |
re: #199 Dark_Falcon
For police and fire unions, I have respect. My opinions on teacher unions are a matter of record on LGF; I will not rehash them here.
Which is your own version of saying Google it. Thats fucked up. If you have to tell people to Google it.. thats weak.
Have you ever stepped foot in a public school in Chicago to meet and work with children there?
I have volunteered in many Detroit public schools. The teachers are not the problem.
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Interesting Times Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:25:54pm |
re: #193 Dark_Falcon
They want the pipeline, just with thicker pipe. They still want to produce the pipe sections.
No, it’s not nearly so simple:
United Steelworkers (USW) International President Leo W. Gerard expressed support for the Administration’s decision to challenge partisan politics and not bow to Republican pressure to prematurely approve TransCanada’s permit to develop a proposed 1,700-mile pipeline. The Keystone XL Pipeline would transport crude oil and bitumen from Alberta, Canada to the Texas Gulf Coast.
“The Administration made the right decision to ensure that a project of this scale is done in a way that is good for both jobs and the environment,” said Gerard. “The White House is facing forces in Congress that have decided to use this project as a litmus test for their commitment to jobs, at the same time as they have blocked the door to every one of the Administration’s job proposals, but the fact is more time is needed to ensure that this project will have the economic and environmental benefits claimed by the developer.”
And we know damn well that it won’t, since the latest State Department whitewash was written by oil lobbyists with no regard for safety.
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Mich-again Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:27:18pm |
re: #201 Dark_Falcon
I’m actually 35. That’s the only one of those questions I’m going to answer.
The notion that teacher’s unions are the problem in public education is indefensible in my own experience and my own views. It is just an extension of the GOP war on women.
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Interesting Times Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:28:01pm |
re: #204 Gus
Which is it?
Our stupid and idiotic “first past the post” election system made it such that 40% of the electorate was able to foist the Harper government upon us. I’m presently involved with a group trying to arrange strategic cooperation between the opposition parties to ensure this vote-splitting doesn’t screw us again (like parties agreeing not to run a candidate who could take votes away from the progressive most likely to win a “conservative” riding)
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Kronocide Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:28:04pm |
re: #23 Charles Johnson
New feature - if a Page has a rating of -10 or less, it will no longer show up in the Recent Pages listings, to make room for better stuff.
CHALLENGE ACCEPTED.
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Gus Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:32:02pm |
re: #209 Interesting Times
Our stupid and idiotic “first past the post” election system made it such that 40% of the electorate was able to foist the Harper government upon us. I’m presently involved with a group trying to arrange strategic cooperation between the opposition parties to ensure this vote-splitting doesn’t screw us again (like parties agreeing not to run a candidate who could take votes away from the progressive most likely to win a “conservative” riding)
Everyone is on their micro agenda.
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Interesting Times Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:35:10pm |
re: #211 Gus
Everyone is on their micro agenda.
You seem to be implying hypocrisy on Canada’s part. I’m trying to explain, as someone who lives here, that the majority of us do not approve of Harper’s actions, especially re the environment. But because of how our system presently works, you won’t see our wishes reflected in government policy. So don’t conflate the two, if that’s what you’re doing. Canada and Canadians != the Harper government
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freetoken Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:36:59pm |
Mullah Mohler goes hyperbolic:
Marriage in the Dock—The Supreme Court Considers Same-Sex Marriage
The next two days are destined to stand among the most significant days in our nation’s constitutional history, but the issues at stake reach far beyond the U.S. Constitution. Nothing less than marriage is in the dock, with the nation’s highest court set to consider two cases that deal with the question of the legalization of same-sex marriage.
[…]
Both cases are significant. Together they represent a monumental set of issues for the justices.
[…]
Taken together, these cases threaten nothing less than the redefinition of the most basic and essential institution of human society—any society. […]
Nothing seems to strike fear into the heart of the pharisee like teh ghey.
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Mich-again Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:38:09pm |
It is stupid trade policy to export energy or raw materials and then import the finished products produced with that energy or raw materials. The KXL is not about making energy cheaper for American consumers or American manufacturers. On the other hand the KXL promotes the exact opposite. The KXL will enable Canada to export their tar sand oil to the rest of the world where they can fetch about $20 more per barrel than they could get for it here.
KXL has nothing to do with promoting American energy independence. It is a temporary jobs program for a few people who will build the pipeline to export the energy we need here.
I question the patriotism and/or the intelligence of any American who promotes KXL.
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engineer cat Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:38:49pm |
re: #196 ProBosniaLiberal
what is that geometric apparition doing ruining the skyline of central park south???
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freetoken Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:39:37pm |
re: #214 Mich-again
The Keystone pipeline system is more than just about transporting Canadian tar products. It’s southern end is about increasing the ability to export product from the US via ports on the Gulf.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:40:07pm |
re: #199 Dark_Falcon
For police and fire unions, I have respect.
Be honest, you’re on record stating that it’s about pure political expediency. Respect has nothing to do with it.
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Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:40:35pm |
re: #84 ProBosniaLiberal
And then I remember Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Milosevic, and Pol Pot, among others.
No, sorry. No matter how much pain and suffering they caused, it was, ultimately, a finite quantity. An eternity of punishment means they’ll still be writhing in agony long after the heat death of not only this universe, but an infinite number of subsequent universes. I just don’t see how any conceivable evil that even the worst human being imaginable could perpetrate in a finite lifespan could justify that degree of punishment.
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Interesting Times Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:40:50pm |
re: #214 Mich-again
I question the patriotism and/or the intelligence of any American who promotes KXL.
And it’s not good for Canada either, turning us into a one-trick-pony petro-state. But Honey Harper don’t care. Honey Harper only cares about Alberta and the Kochs who invest there. The rest of the country can go swim in tar sludge (and so can Native Canadians who live downwind from the tailing ponds).
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:41:02pm |
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Mich-again Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:44:06pm |
re: #216 freetoken
The Keystone pipeline system is more than just about transporting Canadian tar products. It’s southern end is about increasing the ability to export product from the US via ports on the Gulf.
That is even worse yet.. I say any energy that is sitting there below the ground here should be used as a cash cow to provide investment for a sustainable energy infrastructure for America’s long term future. People like Dark Falcon and Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck and the rest of the GOP think we should build KXL so that Canada and other petroleum/gas corporations can earn quick profits now.
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freetoken Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:48:12pm |
re: #221 Mich-again
Peace Tar Is Flowing Like a River
PeaceTar is flowing like a river,
Flowing out through you and me,
Spreading out into the desert,
Setting all thecaptivessubway riders free.
Let it flow through me,
Let it flow through me,
Let the mightypeacetar of God
Flow out through me.
Let it flow through me,
Let it flow through me,
Let the mightypeacetar of God
Flow out through me.
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Mich-again Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:49:24pm |
re: #220 Dark_Falcon
That’s humanity.
My agenda is about maybe leaving a habitable planet for my kids. Climate denial is a cop out for people who really don’t give a shit about future generations.
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Mich-again Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:52:58pm |
re: #222 freetoken
PeaceTar Is Flowing Like a River
To some people the Earth is a big giant pinata that just got busted open and the object is to grab all you can quick before anyone else can..
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:53:25pm |
re: #189 goddamnedfrank
This is really an overblown article. There’s no reason to believe that the new type could outcompete the original, and reason to believe it couldn’t. It wouldn’t be a worldwide holocaust, it’d be some really annoying outbreaks and soil that’d have to be sterilized, most likely.
The points about testing not being done are legitimate, but Cracked really isn’t very solid on science.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:53:49pm |
re: #221 Mich-again
That is even worse yet.. I say any energy that is sitting there below the ground here should be used as a cash cow to provide investment for a sustainable energy infrastructure for America’s long term future. People like Dark Falcon and Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck and the rest of the GOP think we should build KXL so that Canada and other petroleum/gas corporations can earn quick profits now.
Well, there is major demand for natural gas, and increasing our ability to export Liquified Natural Gas is a smart way for us to meet that demand in the world and make some money.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:54:04pm |
Whosoever shall be guilty of Rape, Polygamy, or Sodomy with man or woman shall be punished, if a man, by castration, if a woman, by cutting thro’ the cartilage of her nose a hole of one half inch diameter at the least.-Thomas Jefferson
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freetoken Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:54:45pm |
Now that the hangover is wearing off:
George Zimmerman’s brother apologizes for offensive tweets
Robert Zimmerman Jr., the brother of the man who shot and killed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, apologized for his controversial and offensive tweets.
[…]
“I realize those were controversial and offensive and I did publicly apologize for them,” he said. “I’m a human being. I’m being upfront about what I did. I made a mistake … Unfortunately (it) may not have helped George.”
[…]
Um, Robert, the “I’m human” excuse is just that, an excuse.
But wait… he goes on to then defend himself, making the “apology” not quite an apology:
His brother said he was trying to make a larger point in his tweets about the “media and their honesty in portraying the person who encountered my brother February 26 (2012).
“We’ve been led to believe that it’s a junior-high-school-aged person because of the pictures,” he said, referring to Martin.
“The analogy is these are two people who chose to represent themselves in this way. One was accused of killing a baby, and whatever’s in his social media makes the rounds immediately … However, the other person who almost killed my brother had he disarmed him — my brother had every indication to believe he would have killed him — his social media is off limits.”
Yeah, some “apology”. This is just rationalization.
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freetoken Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:55:54pm |
What a lame ass “apology”. It’s simply a way to accuse the deceased of being the guilty party.
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William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:57:39pm |
It’s lawyer speak for “Make an apology NOW before you ratfuck your brother’s trial!!!”
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freetoken Wed, Mar 27, 2013 10:01:17pm |
Theocracy runs deep in Kentucky, home of the Ken Ham’s creation museum and Noah’s Ark park… and it crosses party lines:
Ky. lawmakers override religious freedom veto
Kentucky’s General Assembly voted overwhelmingly March 26 to override Gov. Steve Beshear’s veto of House Bill 279, also known as the religious freedom bill. The Democratic House passed the measure 79-15 and the Republican-controlled Senate voted 32-6.
“This important law will protect the rights of people of faith in Kentucky,” said Paul Chitwood, executive director of the Kentucky Baptist Convention.
“Religious freedom was a good ideal when Kentucky became the 15th state of the Union on June 1, 1792. It still is,” Chitwood said. “I praise God for this victory.”
[…]
“Religious freedom” is double speak for “preferential treatment”.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Mar 27, 2013 10:05:28pm |
re: #225 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut
This is really an overblown article. There’s no reason to believe that the new type could outcompete the original, and reason to believe it couldn’t. It wouldn’t be a worldwide holocaust, it’d be some really annoying outbreaks and soil that’d have to be sterilized, most likely.
The points about testing not being done are legitimate, but Cracked really isn’t very solid on science.
It’s a good point and I thought the same thing. The scary thing is that it got approved though, and could have faced widespread dissemination before recall. It’s also not hard to imagine scenarios where the bacteria breaks quarantine pretty quickly, carried in dry, windblown soil, or by birds and other animals.
Also if only a little bit of it can kill a plant, then it doesn’t necessarily have to outcompete the non modified strain to spread, both can thrive side by side in a kind of hunter / scavenger relationship.
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freetoken Wed, Mar 27, 2013 10:05:29pm |
Yes, the GOP is Hezbollah:
GOP leader: Nation should follow ID values
[…]
Speaking was Idaho Republican Party Chairman Barry Peterson, who traveled from Boise to Sandpoint for the occasion.
Inspired by the conservative ideals expressed by Barry Goldwater during the 1964 presidential campaign, Peterson said he felt the GOP was the party that best advocated personal liberty and a reverence for God.
“It makes my heart hurt that we have turned aside from the deity that gave us the opportunity to pursue liberty,” he said.[…]
As if US politics ought to “advocate reverence for God”.
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CuriousLurker Wed, Mar 27, 2013 10:05:35pm |
re: #228 freetoken
Self-justification is worse than the original offense.
—Sufi proverb
And on that note, I’m outta here. Later. lizards.
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Mich-again Wed, Mar 27, 2013 10:09:02pm |
re: #226 Dark_Falcon
Well, there is major demand for natural gas, and increasing our ability to export Liquified Natural Gas is a smart way for us to meet that demand in the world and make some money.
It makes more sense to use limited resources like energy as a raw material to produce goods and products here and promote employment of many people instead of just exporting the raw material for others to use to produce the finished products.
It is economics 101. The object is to export finished products, not raw materials and natural gas is a raw material. It is foolish economic policy for a country to export energy and then import finished products that required energy usage for production.
Unless of course you run the domestic gas production facilities which employ relatively few people.
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William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Mar 27, 2013 10:10:35pm |
re: #234 CuriousLurker
Self-justification is worse than the original offense.
—Sufi proverbAnd on that note, I’m outta here. Later. lizards.
Amen & good night, CL.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 27, 2013 10:11:44pm |
re: #235 Mich-again
It makes more sense to use limited resources like energy as a raw material to produce goods and products here and promote employment of many people instead of just exporting the raw material for others to use to produce the finished products.
It is economics 101. The object is to export finished products, not raw materials and natural gas is a raw material. It is foolish economic policy for a country to export energy and then import finished products that required energy usage for production.
Unless of course you run the domestic gas production facilities which employ relatively few people.
That assumes you have little or no surplus. Right now, the amount of natural gas we expect to be able to tap into is a good deal more than we can use ourselves. And with Europe in major need of natural gas supplies, we have a major opportunity. Europe would much rather buy from the US than from Russia, after all.
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Targetpractice Wed, Mar 27, 2013 10:13:50pm |
re: #237 Dark_Falcon
That assumes you have little or no surplus. Right now, the amount of natural gas we expect to be able to tap into is a good deal more than we can use ourselves. And with Europe in major need of natural gas supplies, we have a major opportunity. Europe would much rather buy from the US than from Russia, after all.
We have a great deal of need to replace our present energy infrastructure built around coal and oil-fueled power plants with natural gas, which is at the present moment the cleanest burning fossil fuel (relatively speaking). Better we use the surplus, and the cheap prices as a result, to promote its adoption as a near-term solution to our energy needs.
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freetoken Wed, Mar 27, 2013 10:15:26pm |
As if any more evidence is needed, popular wingnut outlet Daily Caller finds a black Democrat state rep who trash talks and runs a story about how horribly racist he is… just so all the faithful Daily Caller commenters can prove they can out-rant the racist droolies over at WND:
Alabama state representative launches into race-fueled rant over Second Amendment rights
Amazingly, all those ugly commenters seem doubly blind to how their racist rants are far worse than anything the state rep said, and yet whine about how they aren’t the ones who are racists.
The utter blindness of the current resurgence of racism is something to behold.
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wheat-dogghazi Wed, Mar 27, 2013 10:15:41pm |
re: #231 freetoken
Beshear will have the last laugh when this law inevitably goes to court. This is the unofficial text of the law, from the Kentucky Legislative Research Council website:
SECTION 1. A NEW SECTION OF KRS CHAPTER 446 IS CREATED TO READ AS FOLLOWS:
Government shall not substantially burden a person’s freedom of religion. The right to act or refuse to act in a manner motivated by a sincerely held religious belief may not be substantially burdened unless the government proves by clear and convincing evidence that it has a compelling governmental interest in infringing the specific act or refusal to act and has used the least restrictive means to further that interest. A “burden” shall include indirect burdens such as withholding benefits, assessing penalties, or an exclusion from programs or access to facilities.
The impetus for the law (supposedly) was a state requirement that Amish buggies have a bright orange triangle mounted on the back, for safety. Several Amish refused to mount the safety triangles, claiming it violated their religious principle of not calling attention to themselves, and got thrown in the pokey as a result.
Beshear in vetoing the bill said it was worded too broadly, and suggested there would be legal issues with it.
Of course, the state legislators could have amended the original law requiring the safety triangles, but no! Let’s hunt mosquitoes with bazookas instead.
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Mich-again Wed, Mar 27, 2013 10:16:19pm |
re: #237 Dark_Falcon
That assumes you have little or no surplus. Right now, the amount of natural gas we expect to be able to tap into is a good deal more than we can use ourselves. And with Europe in major need of natural gas supplies, we have a major opportunity. Europe would much rather buy from the US than from Russia, after all.
I give a crap about the gas shortage in Europe. I say let it sit in the ground here. We will eventually need it. Test the logic with an extreme example. So why not pump all of it out in one day and create a huge glut in the supply and crash the price? Silly right.. We need the natural gas here to make manufacturing more efficient and to let people heat their homes for less money. Far more Americans benefit from a glut in the domestic natural gas supply than will benefit by hurrying up and pumping it all to Europe quickly.
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Kragar Wed, Mar 27, 2013 10:16:52pm |
re: #233 freetoken
Yes, the GOP is Hezbollah:
GOP leader: Nation should follow ID values
As if US politics ought to “advocate reverence for God”.
But we need to be on guard against creeping Sharia.
///
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 27, 2013 10:22:47pm |
re: #241 Mich-again
I give a crap about the gas shortage in Europe. I say let it sit in the ground here. We will eventually need it. Test the logic with an extreme example. So why not pump all of it out in one day and create a huge glut in the supply and crash the price? Silly right.. We need the natural gas here to make manufacturing more efficient and to let people heat their homes for less money. Far more Americans benefit from a glut in the domestic natural gas supply than will benefit by hurrying up and pumping it all to Europe quickly.
How about a middle ground, allowing export but only set amounts?
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wheat-dogghazi Wed, Mar 27, 2013 10:24:30pm |
re: #242 Kragar (Antichrist )
But we need to be on guard against creeping Sharia.
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Well, sharia-loving folks can go to Kentucky, where there is now “religious freedom.” If your religious principles contradict civil laws or regulations, the onus is on the government to show why civil law trumps religious law.
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freetoken Wed, Mar 27, 2013 10:26:09pm |
This is America, 2013:
Pediatrics Academy Supports Gay Marriage
Let me be precise on my position on gay marriage: I abhor the concept with every fiber of my soul. That this is not a universally-supported position I understand but if it were, please explain how the human species would continue?
The feel-good children’s medical crowd disagrees with me and, in my opinion, has hit the bottom of the hog pen. If any of you have ever been around a hog operation you know that isn’t a place you want to be.[…]
Well, ok, so this is typical in Godly America. Then the writer continues:
In going through the report twice, I was left with the same feeling I had about NOAA’s environmental study of the acidic level in the oceans three years ago. Then my question, still unanswered, was “You claim the oceans’ acidic levels are higher than anytime in the last 800,000 years and blame this on human, specifically American, population. Where was the human population that caused the oceans’ acidic level to be higher 800,000 years ago?”
I think the academics went in with a preconceived notion and included only those situations that most closely followed their predetermined outcome; an outcome that would benefit whoever sponsored and paid for the four-year study.[…]
Um… well, what can we say? I’m surprised he didn’t jump on evolution and ask why monkeys are still around if we evolved from them.
Oh, look, at the bottom of the page, what do I see …?
I have been invited to speak at the Larimer County (CO) Republican breakfast Monday, April 1 which begins. The meeting will be at the Best Western motel on the SW corner of the I-25/U.S. 34 junction beginning at 7 am and is scheduled to last until 8:30. The BW motel is directly south of the Outlet Mall at Loveland. There is a $10 charge for the buffet breakfast. I will attempt to analyze the Texas Legislative proposal to stockpile its own gold reserve and enforce the language of the Constitution’s 10th Amendment.
Someone didn’t get the Rinsed One’s memo.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Mar 27, 2013 10:28:03pm |
re: #228 freetoken
However, the other person who almost killed my brother had he disarmed him — my brother had every indication to believe he would have killed him
I’m not persuaded. To put it in NHL terms, instigating a fight is bad, but instigating a fight while wearing a visor is really, really, really bad. One’s own unfair advantage shouldn’t be allowed to precipitate a crisis they can then legitimately react to.
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Kragar Wed, Mar 27, 2013 10:28:19pm |
re: #244 wheat-dogghazi
Well, sharia-loving folks can go to Kentucky, where there is now “religious freedom.” If your religious principles contradict civil laws or regulations, the onus is on the government to show why civil law trumps religious law.
Because its the 21st century and we don’t live in a fucking theocracy?
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dragonath Wed, Mar 27, 2013 10:37:08pm |
re: #244 wheat-dogghazi
Well, sharia-loving folks can go to Kentucky, where there is now “religious freedom.” If your religious principles contradict civil laws or regulations, the onus is on the government to show why civil law trumps religious law.
Sometimes I would prefer they went all 15th century in description as well as intent, because the cute euphemisms really grate.
Fweedom!
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wheat-dogghazi Wed, Mar 27, 2013 10:39:04pm |
re: #247 Kragar (Antichrist )
Because its the 21st century and we don’t live in a fucking theocracy?
Well, depends on which state you live in, it seems. As usual, the authors of such bills only look at it from their own narrow perspective. Like Beshear, I can see a whole host of problems with this Kentucky law. For one example, suppose a science teacher objects to teaching evolution at all in the classroom, on the basis of his religious belief. (There is a KY statute that actually allows teaching creationism, IIRC.) His superiors cannot compel him to follow state standards, if he invokes this new law as protection. (See John Freshwater, Ohio, for a whole saga about just such a teacher.)
The law opens up the possibility of religious believers subverting the whole legislative process, post facto. It’s a stupid law, and unnecessary.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Mar 27, 2013 10:40:20pm |
What right to remain silent?
If any offender stand mute of obstinancy, or challenge peremptorily more of the jurors than by law he may, being first warned of the consequence thereof, the court shall proceed as if he had confessed the charge.
-Thomas Jefferson
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freetoken Wed, Mar 27, 2013 10:47:48pm |
Hiding behind “God” to not see one’s own criminality:
Convicted Pa. Supreme Court Justice Joan Orie Melvin resigns from bench
Joan Orie Melvin [Republican], the disgraced Pennsylvania Supreme Court Justice recently convicted on corruption charges, has resigned her seat on the high court.
The announcement, made by the Administrative Office of Pennsylvania Courts, comes after Orie Melvin was convicted by an Allegheny County jury in late February of using her then-Superior Court staff to work on her campaign for the Supreme Court.
The justice was convicted on several felony counts, including theft of services, conspiracy and the misappropriation of state property.
[…]
In her letter of resignation to Gov. Tom Corbett, which was posted to the website of the Pittsburgh Tribune Review, Orie Melvin wrote […] “My faith has endured and is strengthened, and I thank God for the great gift of serving in the judiciary.”
[…]
Her wikipedia page has a brief summary of her conviction.
When this all broke last year, she said:
“I’m a woman of faith,” Melvin, 56, a Marshall Republican, told reporters gathered outside Pittsburgh Municipal Court, Downtown, following her arraignment on nine charges. “My strong faith in God is the cornerstone of my life. My faith will see me through this.”
Apparently she didn’t realize that “God” is not a get-out-of-jail-free card for committing felony.
As with so many, especially these Republican politicians, “God” is a magic word that keeps them from having to look at their own ugliness.
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wheat-dogghazi Wed, Mar 27, 2013 11:00:02pm |
re: #215 engineer cat
What a coincidence! I just read a story about a Chinese mother who bought a condo in the One57 project for her daughter to live in while she goes to college.
The kid is two years old.
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freetoken Wed, Mar 27, 2013 11:01:00pm |
Still picking out gems from the EMI freebies:
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ProBosniaLiberal Wed, Mar 27, 2013 11:01:11pm |
re: #252 wheat-dogghazi
Hey wasn’t that the tower with the half-collapsed crane?
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Kragar Wed, Mar 27, 2013 11:01:41pm |
Idaho teacher investigated for saying ‘vagina’ during biology lesson
A high school science teacher in Idaho is under investigation by the state’s professional standards commission because he reportedly used the word “vagina” during a biology lesson.
Tim McDaniel, who teaches 10th grade science at Dietrich School, told the Twin Falls Times-News that four parents were upset when they learned that his lesson included the word “vagina” and information about the biology behind female orgasm.
“I teach straight out of the textbook, I don’t include anything that the textbook doesn’t mention,” McDaniel remarked. “But I give every student the option not attend this class when I teach on the reproductive system if they don’t feel comfortable with the material.”
McDaniel said that he had never before received a complaint in the 18 years that he had taught science class at Dietrich School.
According to students who have set up a Facebook page to “SAVE THE SCIENCE TEACHER!!” certain parents may have had a political agenda in going after McDaniel. Sixty-six percent of church goers in Lincoln County, where Dietrich is located, are affiliated with the Mormon LDS Church, according to 2002 Glenmary Research Center data.
OH FOR FUCKS SAKE!
Go live in a fucking cave if the real world offends you, you dark age fuckwits.
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freetoken Wed, Mar 27, 2013 11:02:30pm |
re: #255 Kragar (Antichrist )
A high school science teacher in Idaho is under investigation by the state’s professional standards commission because he reportedly used the word “vagina” during a biology lesson.
**gasp**
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dragonath Wed, Mar 27, 2013 11:07:03pm |
Aren’t the people supposed to be smarter than the potatoes?
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wheat-dogghazi Wed, Mar 27, 2013 11:07:11pm |
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klys Wed, Mar 27, 2013 11:11:12pm |
re: #255 Kragar (Antichrist )
I’m going to guess the real objection here is to explaining to young women than they should be getting some enjoyment out of sex too.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 27, 2013 11:13:55pm |
re: #259 klys
I’m going to guess the real objection here is to explaining to young women than they should be getting some enjoyment out of sex too.
No, I think it’s just parental prudishness at work.
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wheat-dogghazi Wed, Mar 27, 2013 11:14:24pm |
re: #259 klys
Or that their ladyparts have a name that can be used in public and in textbooks.
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klys Wed, Mar 27, 2013 11:16:29pm |
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klys Wed, Mar 27, 2013 11:18:55pm |
re: #260 Dark_Falcon
Also, my mom totally lost any claim to prudishness after she gave me Jean Auel’s Clan of the Cave Bear to read when I was bored one day. I was 10.
On the bright side, it saved an awkward discussion of mechanics. And in her defense, it had been a while since she’d read the books. Although I still don’t quite understand how she could have forgotten that.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 27, 2013 11:23:18pm |
Another game mini painted, the 9th one completed for this game. Now some job-related research, though I’ll only do a little before bed. This is a very busy week for me, but I’m holding together.
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Kragar Wed, Mar 27, 2013 11:25:04pm |
re: #264 Dark_Falcon
Another game mini painted, the 9th one completed for this game. Now some job-related research, though I’ll only do a little before bed. This is a very busy week for me, but I’m holding together.
I’m going to be spending at least a week prepping some new stuff. Resin is the devil.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 27, 2013 11:26:29pm |
re: #265 Kragar (Antichrist )
I’m going to be spending at least a week prepping some new stuff. Resin is the devil.
No, yellow paint is the devil… to get right. It clumps way too much compared to other colors.
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klys Wed, Mar 27, 2013 11:28:37pm |
re: #266 Dark_Falcon
This is why I just stitch little squares everywhere instead.
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Kragar Wed, Mar 27, 2013 11:31:53pm |
re: #266 Dark_Falcon
No, yellow paint is the devil… to get right. It clumps way too much compared to other colors.
I used to have that problem a lot, but the citadel “Averland Sunset” yellow base paint has been nothing but smooth and shiny since I got it.
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Kragar Wed, Mar 27, 2013 11:34:17pm |
Meanwhile, I’ve got to mess around with getting a nice blue gloss scheme, with burnished gold highlights just right.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 27, 2013 11:34:37pm |
re: #268 Kragar (Antichrist )
I used to have that problem a lot, but the citadel “Averland Sunset” yellow base paint has been nothing but smooth and shiny since I got it.
I may have a chance to get some of that tomorrow. I’ll see if I can use that to help move things along. I only have two minis left that’ll need yellow.
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Kragar Wed, Mar 27, 2013 11:36:57pm |
re: #270 Dark_Falcon
I may have a chance to get some of that tomorrow. I’ll see if I can use that to help move things along. I only have two minis left that’ll need yellow.
I had been struggling to get some Wolf Guard painted right, the golden yellow I had was taking forever to get a good coat on. Got some Averland and I knocked out all the shoulderpads and other trim in less than an hour. Good stuff. Going to be using it for the trim and insignia on some Thousand Sons.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 27, 2013 11:38:56pm |
re: #269 Kragar (Antichrist )
Meanwhile, I’ve got to mess around with getting a nice blue gloss scheme, with burnished gold highlights just right.
Let me know how that works out, since if I get the time I may try the scheme in the photo:
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Single-handed sailor Wed, Mar 27, 2013 11:41:12pm |
re: #272 Dark_Falcon
Gah, that “image scroll back in the thread” bug is frustrating. it comes and goes. It’s like it happens after the thread hits 100 posts.
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Kragar Wed, Mar 27, 2013 11:41:30pm |
re: #272 Dark_Falcon
Let me know how that works out, since if I get the time I may try the scheme in the photo:
Here is what I’ll be working towards:
Image: m2610401a_99800102019_ThousandSonsUpgradePack_873x627.jpg
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Kragar Wed, Mar 27, 2013 11:42:08pm |
re: #273 Single-handed sailor
Gah, that “image scroll back in the thread” bug is frustrating. it comes and goes. It’s like it happens after the thread hits 100 posts.
Yeah, started again for me as well.
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ProBosniaLiberal Wed, Mar 27, 2013 11:42:58pm |
Before I go to bed, should mention that one of the plot center-points in the Ace Combat series, the Earth colliding with a number of fragments from a disrupted asteroid, seem a whole lot less out there since the Chelyabinsk Meteorfall.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 27, 2013 11:44:19pm |
re: #273 Single-handed sailor
Gah, that “image scroll back in the thread” bug is frustrating. it comes and goes. It’s like it happens after the thread hits 100 posts.
Sorry.
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Kragar Wed, Mar 27, 2013 11:44:38pm |
I’ve also got to scratchbuild the insignia and head ornamentation for some 1k Sons terminators, removing the regular chaos spikes, hooks, and chains, which will be something new I’ll be trying.
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Single-handed sailor Wed, Mar 27, 2013 11:46:30pm |
re: #276 ProBosniaLiberal
Before I go to bed, should mention that one of the plot center-points in the Ace Combat series, the Earth colliding with a number of fragments from a disrupted asteroid, seem a whole lot less out there since the Chelyabinsk Meteorfall.
Well, we’ve certainly had an increase of bolides in the past year over other years. You have to wonder what the period of these large chunks is, how many years between when they take their inward swing into the solar system.
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Kragar Wed, Mar 27, 2013 11:56:27pm |
So I’ll be taking something like this:
Image: m1252614_99120102021_ChaosTermmain_873x627.jpg
And turning it into something like this:
So lots of xacto and file work
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ProBosniaLiberal Wed, Mar 27, 2013 11:57:20pm |
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goddamnedfrank Thu, Mar 28, 2013 12:07:50am |
re: #266 Dark_Falcon
No, yellow paint is the devil… to get right. It clumps way too much compared to other colors.
Probably has more to do with how the human eye / brain perceive yellow than any property of the paint itself. We don’t really see yellow well, at least not directly. There’s no cone with a peak responsiveness to yellow wavelengths. Instead our eyes / brains read yellow when green and red cones in a portion of the retina are activated together but the blue one’s aren’t. Also, each type of cone has a different overall sensitivity and range of wavelengths it’s most sensitive to. The most common Photoshop formula for grayscale conversions that approximate human vision is:
Gray = 30% Red plus 59% Green plus 11% Blue
A by product of all this is that yellow is the least saturated color in the human perceptual palate, because our brains mostly infer it in signal processing. Take a look at the CIE color space. Notice how deep the blues and greens get. The reds we can perceive are a lot darker than that image conveys, think of a very deep crimson. Now think of the deepest yellow you can make out of a pure pigment, it simply doesn’t compete.
So yellow paint is going to appear more granular in thick coats, because the contrast of the thick vs. thin areas is going to be much more apparent. We are very prone to notice that contrast though, which is why yellow against black is such an effective warning pattern employed by poisonous species.
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Kragar Thu, Mar 28, 2013 12:09:34am |
re: #282 goddamnedfrank
I’m sticking with the “shitty yellow paint” scenario.
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Mar 28, 2013 1:02:37am |
re: #137 Walking Spanish Down the Hall
It came from the ground, it can be returned to the ground. Northern Canada has large areas of shield that are highly stable. Drill a vertical tunnel a km down and drop the spent fuel there.
And who will we get to pay for this venture? Monsanto?
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Mar 28, 2013 4:02:04am |
re: #259 klys
I’m going to guess the real objection here is to explaining to young women than they should be getting some enjoyment out of sex too.
We are not supposed to teach our teenagers anything other than abstinence until marriage. Sex is wicked, sinful, immoral, perverted, twisted, sick, depraved, animalistic and oh so fascinating, which is why you are supposed to save it until marriage.
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Romantic Heretic Thu, Mar 28, 2013 4:12:31am |
re: #102 Dark_Falcon
No, the photo is of the USS Franklin, one of the larger Essex-class of CVs. Franklin survived a kamikaze attack, whereas the Princeton was lost to a standard dive-bombing attack.
Opp. My bad. Sorry.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 4:45:22am |
re: #59 CuriousLurker
There you are. I’ve been saving this one for you—I’ve heard of this before, but this is the first time I’ve read much about it (emphasis mine):
O_o
Sorry I missed this last night, you got me 2 SECONDS after I logged off and went to bed.
“Bar Mitzvah” or “Bat Mitzvah” means “Son/Daughter of the Commandments.” It is an acknowledgement that this child has achieved adulthood (in a spiritual sense) is now responsible for performing the Commandments (“Mitzvot”) of the Torah.
Some people think that it is just a big fancy party, like a “Sweet Sixteen” or something like that.
If other cultures or religions which to observe “coming of age” ceremonies, I’m cool with that. I do think it is disrespectful when people have a “Bark Mitzvah” for their dog. That is stupid.
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steve_davis Thu, Mar 28, 2013 4:59:52am |
re: #7 Gus
Right. Hell for eternity. Eternity as not for 100 years but for billions and billions of years to be in a state of burning. To feel the pain from hot fire as though a man who feel pain as he is burned to death. For being gay. For billions and billions of years. I think one would have to have a rather sadistic mind to accept such a concept.
re: #24 EPR-radar
Even for the monsters of history, it seems difficult to justify eternal torment in hell. All crimes/sins are finite, after all.
The customary theological argument that sins are infinite because the offended party is an infinite god is, to put it politely, unpersuasive.
My sense of hell comes from my father’s theological position, and Charles Williams’. In Williams’ universe, people walk their own way to hell. They aren’t “sent” there by some thoroughly capricious God who thinks rapists and suicides deserve virtuallly equal treatment. By the time people have managed to walk to hell, there isn’t any reason to feel pity for their condition any longer, because there is nothing left of what they may once have been capable of becoming. So, Hitler may indeed spend all of eternity in Hell, but it will be because he reasched a point where Hell is the only place he is comfortable, and it is the place that he wants to be, and insists on being. And as John Calvin has said, the fact that there is a hell doesn’t mean there’s any reason why anyone has to be there.
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stabby Thu, Mar 28, 2013 5:05:11am |
re: #291 steve_davis
re: #24 EPR-radar
My sense of hell comes from my father’s theological position, and Charles Williams’. In Williams’ universe, people walk their own way to hell. They aren’t “sent” there by some thoroughly capricious God who thinks rapists and suicides deserve virtuallly equal treatment. By the time people have managed to walk to hell, there isn’t any reason to feel pity for their condition any longer, because there is nothing left of what they may once have been capable of becoming. So, Hitler may indeed spend all of eternity in Hell, but it will be because he reasched a point where Hell is the only place he is comfortable, and it is the place that he wants to be, and insists on being. And as John Calvin has said, the fact that there is a hell doesn’t mean there’s any reason why anyone has to be there.
It’s funny how people have infinite flexibility to find excuses for dogma, but no flexibility to admit that it’s maximally manipulative mind control in the first place.
It holds your mind because some of it was designed by manipulative people to hold your mind, and because other parts evolved to be that way.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Thu, Mar 28, 2013 5:15:03am |
re: #291 steve_davis
So Hitler can walk out of hell again, right?
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aagcobb Thu, Mar 28, 2013 5:44:07am |
re: #292 stabby
It’s funny how people have infinite flexibility to find excuses for dogma, but no flexibility to admit that it’s maximally manipulative mind control in the first place.
It holds your mind because some of it was designed by manipulative people to hold your mind, and because other parts evolved to be that way.
Exactly, memes evolve, in an analagous way to organisms, to fill the environmental niches available to them in human minds. This is one reason why religion is so much more vigorous in the US than in Europe. Here, with no state support, churchs have to compete to win converts to survive, and they have diversified into numerous sects so that most everyone of a religious bent can find one they feel comfortable in. In Europe, lots of churches were suppressed and genuine believers driven away (many to America) because each state had an official church, and that church, as a virtual arm of the state, didn’t have to work to attract converts. People went into ministry, not because they had a calling, but because it was a respectable career. Its kind of ironic observing Darwinian principles in action in the area of religion.
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aagcobb Thu, Mar 28, 2013 5:51:20am |
re: #290 Vicious Babushka
Sorry I missed this last night, you got me 2 SECONDS after I logged off and went to bed.
“Bar Mitzvah” or “Bat Mitzvah” means “Son/Daughter of the Commandments.” It is an acknowledgement that this child has achieved adulthood (in a spiritual sense) is now responsible for performing the Commandments (“Mitzvot”) of the Torah.
Some people think that it is just a big fancy party, like a “Sweet Sixteen” or something like that.
If other cultures or religions which to observe “coming of age” ceremonies, I’m cool with that. I do think it is disrespectful when people have a “Bark Mitzvah” for their dog. That is stupid.
I like pets ok, but I don’t think its emotionally healthy the way some people become obsessively attached to them. For one thing, a teenage dog or cat is very old, is likely to develop serious health problems and will die soon, and you see people who think of their pets like children spent obscene amounts of money on vet bills (when tens of millions of Americans are uninsured) and make the animals suffer trying to extend their lives when they should really be humanely euthanized.
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wheat-dogghazi Thu, Mar 28, 2013 5:52:26am |
re: #293 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut
So Hitler can walk out of hell again, right?
Only Odysseus, Orpheus and few other heroes managed to do it, and they entered alive. Eurydice, who was a resident, was not so lucky.
Hades is fine with immigration, not so much with emigration.
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lawhawk Thu, Mar 28, 2013 6:00:27am |
You’re not really loving your neighbor when you’re cool with him staying on the road to hell.
I’m on a highway to hell, and if there is a hell, I’ll see you there. For all your talk of loving your neighbor and wishing them well, you’re more concerned with imposing your religious views on others who may not share them. You have a right to your own religious views, but you don’t have the right to impose them on others.
That’s the core tenet of religious freedoms in this country. It is so that you can freely practice your religion personally without government sanction promoting one religion over another, as well as preventing religious groups from cramming their views on to others.
It’s also why all the same crowd is so irksome and unintentionally funny. They complain and worry about sharia law being imposed and some of them are the same people who are more than willing to impose their own version of Christian laws and morals and don’t see the parallels.
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lawhawk Thu, Mar 28, 2013 6:04:35am |
Oh, and I find it rather comical that pundits and prognosticators are busy trying to divine whether the Supreme Court will strike down DOMA or take other action. Just exactly how accurate were they in predicting the PPACA ruling? Not particularly well. They didn’t get the grounds right, nor did they understand the reach and limitations on how that case was decided.
So why do they think they’ll do any better with the DOMA case before the court over the past two days based on oral arguments? Do they really think that they can figure out what the justices will do?
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Eclectic Cyborg Thu, Mar 28, 2013 6:07:46am |
re: #251 freetoken
Apparently she didn’t realize that “God” is not a get-out-of-jail-free card for committing felony.
Unless you belong to the Catholic church that is…
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Thu, Mar 28, 2013 6:11:35am |
re: #295 aagcobb
I often think it’s awful when people put their aged pet through surgery. It’s selfish, really, most of the time. The surgery is a traumatic event and it’s rare that an older animal really fully recovers before other health problems kick in.
I also think that people continuing to breed ‘purebreed’ strains of dogs are dicks.
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Eclectic Cyborg Thu, Mar 28, 2013 6:14:55am |
re: #300 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut
I often think it’s awful when people put their aged pet through surgery. It’s selfish, really, most of the time. The surgery is a traumatic event and it’s rare that an older animal really fully recovers before other health problems kick in.
I also think that people continuing to breed ‘purebreed’ strains of dogs are dicks.
The fact is that, whether it’s a pet or human loved one, it can often be very, very hard to let go.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 6:21:13am |
re: #300 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut
I often think it’s awful when people put their aged pet through surgery. It’s selfish, really, most of the time. The surgery is a traumatic event and it’s rare that an older animal really fully recovers before other health problems kick in.
I also think that people continuing to breed ‘purebreed’ strains of dogs are dicks.
OK but what is the point of a “Bark Mitzvah”? What do people get out of this? Is it just that they hate religion so much they have to mock it in this elaborate way? I can understand that there are caterers and even rabbis who are OK with this because $$$$$.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Thu, Mar 28, 2013 6:24:00am |
re: #302 Vicious Babushka
OK but what is the point of a “Bark Mitzvah”? What do people get out of this? Is it just that they hate religion so much they have to mock it in this elaborate way? I can understand that there are caterers and even rabbis who are OK with this because $$$$$.
Oh, it’s got nothing at all to do with mocking religion. Kind of the opposite. It’s kind of like how those orthodox Jews that you showed a picture of on Purim dressed up as American Indians don’t mean to be massively disrespectful to American Indians, and if asked would probably say they were doing it out of admiration for American Indians or whatever. It’s still co-opting another culture and getting it all fucking wrong in an insulting way. But usually the people doing it don’t know that.
Or, if they’re secular Jews who just like a bit of Jewish culture, then obviously it’s just a cultural thing to them already, not a religious one. Then it just falls into the ‘stupid shit people do for their pets’ category.
It is not at all about mocking religion.
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Eclectic Cyborg Thu, Mar 28, 2013 6:25:43am |
re: #303 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut
Or, if they’re secular Jews who just like a bit of Jewish culture, then obviously it’s just a cultural thing to them already, not a religious one. Then it just falls into the ‘stupid shit people do for their pets’ category.
It is not at all about mocking religion.
That was my first thought.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 6:26:05am |
re: #303 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut
Oh, it’s got nothing at all to do with mocking religion. Kind of the opposite. It’s kind of like how those orthodox Jews that you showed a picture of on Purim dressed up as American Indians don’t mean to be massively disrespectful to American Indians, and if asked would probably say they were doing it out of admiration for American Indians or whatever. It’s still co-opting another culture and getting it all fucking wrong in an insulting way. But usually the people doing it don’t know that.
It is not at all about mocking religion.
The “Jewish Daily Forward” is always promoting shit like this and I have to ask if it’s because they think they are being “edgy” and “hip” or if they are really just clueless.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Thu, Mar 28, 2013 6:26:56am |
re: #304 Eclectic Cyborg
That was my first thought.
Fucking Jim Carrey bought a three-bedroom house for his dog at one point.
I think he’s funny, but goddamn, that’s a dick move. I wonder if he hired someone who lived in a cramped studio to do the dogwalking too, just to really rub it in.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 6:27:53am |
re: #306 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut
Fucking Jim Carrey bought a three-bedroom house for his dog at one point.
I think he’s funny, but goddamn, that’s a dick move. I wonder if he hired someone who lived in a cramped studio to do the dogwalking too, just to really rub it in.
Leona Helmsley left her entire fortune to her pets.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Thu, Mar 28, 2013 6:28:07am |
re: #305 Vicious Babushka
The “Jewish Daily Forward” is always promoting shit like this and I have to ask if it’s because they think they are being “edgy” and “hip” or if they are really just clueless.
I dunno. It’s something I could easily see the Upper-East-Side Jewish-on-the-Holidays women I know doing, and they wouldn’t mean anything bad by it, they’re just kinda spoiled.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 6:29:49am |
re: #308 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut
I dunno. It’s something I could easily see the Upper-East-Side Jewish-on-the-Holidays women I know doing, and they wouldn’t mean anything bad by it, they’re just kinda spoiled.
Kinda like the liberal hipsters who attended the 100th Anniversary Memorial for the Triangle Shirtwaist disaster, decked out in the latest fashions from H&M.
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aagcobb Thu, Mar 28, 2013 6:29:58am |
re: #298 lawhawk
Oh, and I find it rather comical that pundits and prognosticators are busy trying to divine whether the Supreme Court will strike down DOMA or take other action. Just exactly how accurate were they in predicting the PPACA ruling? Not particularly well. They didn’t get the grounds right, nor did they understand the reach and limitations on how that case was decided.
So why do they think they’ll do any better with the DOMA case before the court over the past two days based on oral arguments? Do they really think that they can figure out what the justices will do?
I don’t see Roberts doing anything unexpected; this really is Kennedy’s case to decide, base on the balance he strikes between individual rights and state rights, or he can just punt it for lack of standing or as improvidently granted. Given Kennedy’s dislike for federal mandates, I can’t see him voting to affirm DOMA.
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aagcobb Thu, Mar 28, 2013 6:31:32am |
re: #302 Vicious Babushka
OK but what is the point of a “Bark Mitzvah”? What do people get out of this? Is it just that they hate religion so much they have to mock it in this elaborate way? I can understand that there are caterers and even rabbis who are OK with this because $$$$$.
There are people who literally view their dogs as their children, little people in fur, and give them anything they would give a child.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 6:32:16am |
re: #311 aagcobb
There are people who literally view their dogs as their children, little people in fur, and give them anything they would give a child.
Pre-school? Playdates? Nannies?
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aagcobb Thu, Mar 28, 2013 6:33:29am |
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lawhawk Thu, Mar 28, 2013 6:34:07am |
CT prosecutors say that Newtown shooter fired off 155 rounds in less than five minutes.
That’s all it took to kill 26 people. Twenty kids and six adults.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 6:35:17am |
re: #315 lawhawk
CT prosecutors say that Newtown shooter fired off 155 rounds in less than five minutes.
That’s all it took to kill 26 people. Twenty kids and six adults.
BUT MOAR PEOPLE GOT KILLED WITH HAMMERS THEN WITH RIFLES!11!!!!
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Eclectic Cyborg Thu, Mar 28, 2013 6:35:19am |
College students face discipline for distributing condoms from dorm rooms
The Boston College chapter of the American Association of University Professors issued a statement today supporting a group of students who may face discipline from BC for distributing contraceptives out of their dorm rooms.
“While it is the university’s right to distribute or not distribute contraceptives through the student health center, we believe that taking disciplinary action against students for lawful actions undertaken in the privacy of their dorm rooms constitutes an infringement of their rights,” the chapter said in a statement. “The issues regarding sexual health raised by BCSSH are important to the welfare of our students who come from a variety of faith traditions; taking disciplinary action against them on such matters of individual conscience sends the wrong message to the campus community, alumni, and prospective students.”
Boston College officials sent a letter to students on March 15 demanding an end to student-run “Safe Sites,” a network of dorm rooms and other locations where free contraceptives and safe sex information are available.
Students living in the “Safe Sites” were told in the letter that the distribution of condoms is in conflict with their “responsibility to protect the values and traditions of Boston College as a Jesuit, Catholic institution.”
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Eclectic Cyborg Thu, Mar 28, 2013 6:36:11am |
re: #315 lawhawk
CT prosecutors say that Newtown shooter fired off 155 rounds in less than five minutes.
That’s all it took to kill 26 people. Twenty kids and six adults.
That’s approximately one kill per every six shots.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 6:36:11am |
Look Mr. Wingnut, go into a mall with a hammer. How many people can you kill in 5 minutes? (assuming you’re not Thor)
How many people can you kill with a rifle?
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Mar 28, 2013 6:38:02am |
We are letting that little runt know we mean business if he starts a war. He probably changed his underwear after our B-2s flew by.
U.S. flies Stealth bombers over South Korea in warning to North
(Reuters) - The United States flew two Stealth bomber practice runs over South Korea on Thursday, in a second show of force to North Korea after a B52 bomber made a similar run earlier this week amid rising tensions on the Korean peninsula.
The flights came after North Korea said it would attack American bases in the Pacific following a U.S.-led drive to impose sanctions on North Korea for its third nuclear weapons test.
The North has also threatened U.S. “puppet” South Korea with war and the U.S. mainland with nuclear attack.“This mission by two B-2 Spirit bombers assigned to 509th Bomb Wing…demonstrates the United States’ ability to conduct long-range, precision strikes quickly and at will,” the United States Forces in Korea said in a statement.
….The U.S. military said that its bombers had flown more than 6,500 miles to stage a trial bombing raid from their bases in Missouri as part of Foal Eagle war drills being held with South Korea.
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aagcobb Thu, Mar 28, 2013 6:41:51am |
re: #317 Eclectic Cyborg
College students face discipline for distributing condoms from dorm rooms
MYOFB
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Eclectic Cyborg Thu, Mar 28, 2013 6:43:31am |
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lawhawk Thu, Mar 28, 2013 6:43:44am |
re: #321 NJDhockeyfan
That’s on top of military exercises that involved B-52s. Stationing the B-2s in South Korea actually exposes them more than if they were positioned in Okinawa or Diego Garcia, although their proximity to the North means that they could be over target far quicker than if located safely further away. The exercises are not only meant to show resolve against Kim in the North, but to bolster the South’s leadership.
On that front, positioning the front line gear shows American resolve and intention to protect South Korea from the North’s crazy threats. It also ratchets up the pressure where a mistake could lead to terrible consequences on both sides of the DMZ.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Thu, Mar 28, 2013 6:44:27am |
re: #317 Eclectic Cyborg
Just say they’re handing out the condoms as props and to make shitty balloons.
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Eclectic Cyborg Thu, Mar 28, 2013 6:45:48am |
re: #326 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut
Just say they’re handing out the condoms as props and to make shitty balloons.
I was thinking set up shop at some off campus student housing. May not be ideal, but better than shutting the whole thing down.
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Bulworth Thu, Mar 28, 2013 6:54:57am |
You have a right to your own religious views, but you don’t have the right to impose them on others.
That’s the core tenet of religious freedoms in this country.
When Lizzy Dole was running for re-election to the U.S. Senate in NC she was quoted as saying that the freedom of religion doesn’t mean freedom from religion. I seem to recall other rightwing politicos saying the same thing. I wondered if that phraseology might catch on. I thought it was a pretty authoritarian, not-freedom-like, take on the 1st Amendment. I expect we’ll hear it again as the freedom-loving, I mean “values voters” seek to make America “free” again.
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Targetpractice Thu, Mar 28, 2013 6:55:04am |
Remember how the wingnuts were dancing in the streets when the initial reports came out that the economy had actually shrank in the last quarter of 2012? Yeah, about that…
US economy expands at 0.4 percent rate
WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. economy grew at a slightly faster but still anemic rate at the end of last year. However, there is hope that growth accelerated in early 2013 despite higher taxes and cuts in government spending.
The economy grew at an annual rate of 0.4 percent in the October-December quarter, the Commerce Department said Thursday. That was slightly better than the previous estimate of 0.1 percent growth. The revision reflected stronger business investment and export sales.
Analysts think the economy is growing at a rate of around 2.5 percent in the current January-March quarter, which ends this week.
Steady hiring has kept consumers spending this year. And a rebound in company stockpiling, further gains in housing and more business spending also likely drove faster growth in the first quarter.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:02:51am |
Wingnuts seething this morning over allegation that head of Steubenville NAACP claimed rape victim “asked for it.”
Can not find any verification of this outside the usual wingnut echo chamber.
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Eclectic Cyborg Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:05:39am |
re: #330 Vicious Babushka
Wingnuts seething this morning over allegation that head of Steubenville NAACP claimed rape victim “asked for it.”
Can not find any verification of this outside the usual wingnut echo chamber.
I’m confused, I thought a lot of wingnuts thought most rapes were actually “consensual”
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Bulworth Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:06:13am |
re: #297 lawhawk
So never mind all the stuff coming from the NOM and hate radio and Faux and the bishops about how teh gays are ‘degraded’ and ‘vile’ and ‘pedophiles’ and ‘unnatural’ and all that. The opposition to SSM is really all about Christian love. //
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:06:16am |
Ga. woman’s camera washes ashore in Taiwan
(AP) NEWNAN, Ga. - A Georgia woman has been reunited with her camera and photos after the camera she lost during a 2007 trip to Hawaii washed ashore in Taiwan.
Lindsay Scallan says she was on a scuba diving trip when she lost her camera during a night dive.
Scallan tells WGCL-TV (bit.ly she recently got a Facebook message from a high school friend saying his wife found an article on a Hawaiian television station’s website about a lost camera. Scallan says a China Airlines employee found the camera and says all the images were still on the memory card.
The airline has offered to pay for Scallan to travel to Taiwan to retrieve her camera and meet the man who found it.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:06:27am |
re: #331 Eclectic Cyborg
I’m confused, I thought a lot of wingnuts thought most rapes were actually “consensual”
HERE IS SOMETHING WE CAN BLAME ON TEH BLAH PEOPLE!!111
Steubenville’s NAACP President Says Rape Victim Was Drunk And Willing [EXCLUSIVE]: ibtimes.com/steubenvilles-… #tcot #TGDN #WIRight #wiunion— LizzieFiles (@LizSchmidt3) March 28, 2013
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Dr. Matt Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:12:47am |
re: #330 Alouette
Wingnuts seething this morning over allegation that head of Steubenville NAACP claimed rape victim “asked for it.”
Can not find any verification of this outside the usual wingnut echo chamber.
She asked to be urinated on and raped…..while unconscious? How is that even possible?
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:13:06am |
re: #315 lawhawk
CT prosecutors say that Newtown shooter fired off 155 rounds in less than five minutes.
That’s all it took to kill 26 people. Twenty kids and six adults.
He’s a shitty shot! Less than 2 percent. Kind of par for the course of a madman.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:14:38am |
re: #335 Dr. Matt
She asked to be urinated on and raped…..while unconscious? How is that even possible?
I can’t find any reliable verification that someone actually said this, it’s just the latest Wingnut Outrageous Outrage Du Jour.
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:15:37am |
re: #326 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut
Giggles. Shitty balloons? Naughty thought this early in the morning!
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Dr. Matt Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:16:09am |
re: #315 lawhawk
CT prosecutors say that Newtown shooter fired off 155 rounds in less than five minutes.
.
And all he needed was five 30 round mags + one 5 round mag.
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wheat-dogghazi Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:18:43am |
re: #337 Vicious Babushka
I can’t find any reliable verification that someone actually said this, it’s just the latest Wingnut Outrageous Outrage Du Jour.
Same here. Also, I’m not sure if the guy is the current NAACP president, or a former one. The RW Noise machine has the intertubes all clogged up with reposts.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:20:33am |
re: #340 wheat-dogghazi
Same here. Also, I’m not sure if the guy is the current NAACP president, or a former one. The RW Noise machine has the intertubes all clogged up with reposts.
Does Steubenville even have its very own NAACP chapter?
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:25:41am |
re: #335 Dr. Matt
She asked to be urinated on and raped…..while unconscious? How is that even possible?
She drank alcohol in public, that is like hanging a “Rape Me!” sign on her back…
/
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:26:44am |
DERP
Revealed: Most Illegal Immigrant Families Are On Welfare is.gd/XcLlzz #tcot #lnyhbt #tgdn #resist44 #pjnet #WAR #teaparty #gop— Patrick Dollard (@PatDollard) March 28, 2013
Why do you suppose that is? Could it be because they are working at menial, subminimum wage jrrbz that don’t pay enough to survive?
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lawhawk Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:30:32am |
re: #336 Dancing along the light of day
Not so sure that you can draw that conclusion. 26 people were killed with 155 bullets. 154 were fired from the AR-15 Bushmaster. The final 155th bullet was fired from the 9mm handgun and was a self-inflicted gunshot wound killing the shooter.
The new report doesn’t say how many struck the victims, but the information that came out in the hours and days after the attack make it seem that many of the victims were hit multiple times.
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Targetpractice Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:32:02am |
*facepalm*
Well, that was short-lived. Tried to fix my old man’s laptop, only to find that the scamware he installed so badly borked his computer that it won’t even boot to a command prompt. The one time I managed to get it to boot to Safe Mode, I find that his antivirus program that he assures me is up to date isn’t even installed. And it looks like the reason might because he got conned into buying a knock-off antispyware program that uninstalled it. So even if he had a repair disk from that program, which most allow you to create, it would be useless.
Yeah, this puppy’s going in the shop. If he’s lucky, they might have something that’ll allow them to perform a System Restore. Otherwise, it’s back to factory fresh and he’s lost everything he didn’t have backed up.
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wheat-dogghazi Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:32:05am |
re: #343 Vicious Babushka
How can they get welfare? Don’t you need a SSN to qualify? Most undocumented aliens avoid government offices like the plague.
I figure anything Dullard tweets is bogus.
As for the Steubenville NAACP, it does exist. And the current president listed here is not the guy the RWNJ are quoting.
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lawhawk Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:34:59am |
Whoops. North Korea photos ostensibly showing its military exercises (including amphibious assaults using hovercraft) appear to be photo edited to make them appear to be more substantial than they are.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:35:12am |
re: #346 wheat-dogghazi
How can they get welfare? Don’t you need a SSN to qualify? Most undocumented aliens avoid government offices like the plague.
I figure anything Dullard tweets is bogus.
As for the Steubenville NAACP, it does exist. And the current president listed here is not the guy the RWNJ are quoting.
It’s wingnut meme that all illegals sneak over the border
JUST TO TAKE FOOD STAMPS!!!111111 Also ONLY UNEMPLOYED PEOPLE VOTED FOR OBAMA and LIBRULZ WOULD RATHER TAKE WELFARE THEN WURK!!!11!!!!
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Targetpractice Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:35:15am |
re: #344 lawhawk
Not so sure that you can draw that conclusion. 26 people were killed with 155 bullets. 154 were fired from the AR-15 Bushmaster. The final 155th bullet was fired from the 9mm handgun and was a self-inflicted gunshot wound killing the shooter.
The new report doesn’t say how many struck the victims, but the information that came out in the hours and days after the attack make it seem that many of the victims were hit multiple times.
5.56 is not much of a man-stopper. It’s high-velocity, small caliber, which means if your target’s small and not that heavily built, the bullet may expend most of its energy passing cleanly through unless you hit a major organ or blood vessel. So six shots per target would seem about right.
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iossarian Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:35:53am |
re: #345 Targetpractice
I used to have a cheap USB interface for laptop hard drives that saved me a couple of times. Remove hard drive, plug into desktop, retrieve needed files, wipe hard drive, start over. PITA but still quicker (and cheaper) than the “pros” (who are probably just going to go through a similar routine anyway.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:36:37am |
re: #343 Vicious Babushka
DERP
Why do you suppose that is? Could it be because they are working at menial, subminimum wage jrrbz that don’t pay enough to survive?
Almost certainly a lie, too. The standard is ‘use at least one welfare program’. So I bet if a kid gets a free lunch at school, that’s ‘The family is on welfare’.
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iossarian Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:38:22am |
re: #349 Targetpractice
So six shots per
targetkindergartner would seem about right.
Not being snarky. Let’s remember that these were kindergartners. The NRA would most likely want us to be thinking of them in more abstract terms.
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Targetpractice Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:39:04am |
re: #350 iossarian
I used to have a cheap USB interface for laptop hard drives that saved me a couple of times. Remove hard drive, plug into desktop, retrieve needed files, wipe hard drive, start over. PITA but still quicker (and cheaper) than the “pros” (who are probably just going to go through a similar routine anyway.
He’s got an extended warranty plan through Best Buy, so I figure drop it off tonight and let them fuck with it. If he loses his music, which seems to be his major worry, too bad, so sad. He won’t listen to me when I tell him what he needs to do to keep his computer safe, so he only has himself to blame.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:39:40am |
re: #352 iossarian
Not being snarky. Let’s remember that these were kindergartners. The NRA would most likely want us to be thinking of them in more abstract terms.
The wingnut meme that keeps coming most frequently:
WHY U CARE MOAR ABOUT 6-YEAR-OLDS AND NOT ABOUT 55 MILLION ABORTED FETUSUS!!!11111
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wheat-dogghazi Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:40:00am |
From here ohioconferencenaacp.org
Royal Mayo of Steubenville sits on the executive committee of the Ohio NAACP. It seems he is a former president of the Steubenville branch.
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Targetpractice Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:41:35am |
re: #352 iossarian
Not being snarky. Let’s remember that these were kindergartners. The NRA would most likely want us to be thinking of them in more abstract terms.
No offense meant or taken.
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Mattand Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:42:47am |
re: #345 Targetpractice
*facepalm*
Well, that was short-lived. Tried to fix my old man’s laptop, only to find that the scamware he installed so badly borked his computer that it won’t even boot to a command prompt. The one time I managed to get it to boot to Safe Mode, I find that his antivirus program that he assures me is up to date isn’t even installed. And it looks like the reason might because he got conned into buying a knock-off antispyware program that uninstalled it. So even if he had a repair disk from that program, which most allow you to create, it would be useless.
Yeah, this puppy’s going in the shop. If he’s lucky, they might have something that’ll allow them to perform a System Restore. Otherwise, it’s back to factory fresh and he’s lost everything he didn’t have backed up.
I feel your pain. My father, a very intelligent guy, has been bit twice by spyware/phishing scams. The big problem is that since he has an antivirus running, he feels he’s bulletproof.
I finally forced him to let me re-install Windows a few months ago, as he claimed the PC was running slow and I feared he got bit again. And here’s the corker: it’s 9 year old Dell running Win XP with 512 MB of RAM (yes, you read that right.)
Mentioned this before, but he’s been making noises about getting a new computer. I pleaded with him that if wanted to stick with Windows, buy one before November before Win 8 became the default OS. I can only imagine how miserable he’s going to be using that.d
I personally don’t have problem with Win 8, but trying to get a narrow-minded guy in his 70’s to learn a new OS is going to hell on earth.
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CuriousLurker Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:43:33am |
re: #290 Vicious Babushka
Sorry I missed this last night, you got me 2 SECONDS after I logged off and went to bed.
“Bar Mitzvah” or “Bat Mitzvah” means “Son/Daughter of the Commandments.” It is an acknowledgement that this child has achieved adulthood (in a spiritual sense) is now responsible for performing the Commandments (“Mitzvot”) of the Torah.
Some people think that it is just a big fancy party, like a “Sweet Sixteen” or something like that.
If other cultures or religions which to observe “coming of age” ceremonies, I’m cool with that. I do think it is disrespectful when people have a “Bark Mitzvah” for their dog. That is stupid.
A “Bark Mitzvah”? *facepalm*
I think you’re probably right that some think it’s just a big party. The article mentioned one Hispanic guy who gave his son a “Christian” Bar Mitzvah because he was looking for a male equivalent of the quinceañera that girls have.
A quinceañera is basically just a big party, sometimes almost as elaborate as a wedding. No one knows it’s origins for sure, but religion tends to be incorporated to some degree (depending on the country). Not surprising, I guess, since that happenes with a lot of cultural practices to make them seem more legit.
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Mattand Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:45:01am |
re: #353 Targetpractice
He won’t listen to me when I tell him what he needs to do to keep his computer safe, so he only has himself to blame.
That’s where I am at this point with people. They ask, I tell them how to fix it, they ignore me. He once wiped photos of his newborn grandson off of his camera because he thought he knew more than me.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:45:33am |
re: #357 Mattand
I feel your pain. My father, a very intelligent guy, has been bit twice by spyware/phishing scams. The big problem is that since he has an antivirus running, he feels he’s bulletproof.
I finally forced him to let me re-install Windows a few months ago, as he claimed the PC was running slow and I feared he got bit again. And here’s the corker: it’s 9 year old Dell running Win XP with 512 MB of RAM (yes, you read that right.)
Mentioned this before, but he’s been making noises about getting a new computer. I pleaded with him that if wanted to stick with Windows, buy one before November before Win 8 became the default OS. I can only imagine how miserable he’s going to be using that.d
I personally don’t have problem with Win 8, but trying to get a narrow-minded guy in his 70’s to learn a new OS is going to hell on earth.
My mom also got her computer infested with malware. How did this happen? Because she always clicks on emails she thinks are from her 95-year-old girlfriends who clicked on a spam and it replicated itself to everyone in their contacts.
She also neglected to update her virus software “isn’t it supposed to do that automatically?”
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iossarian Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:45:39am |
re: #356 Targetpractice
No offense meant or taken.
Thanks. I just get a bit antsy when that topic of conversation becomes too abstract.
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Targetpractice Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:46:07am |
re: #357 Mattand
I feel your pain. My father, a very intelligent guy, has been bit twice by spyware/phishing scams. The big problem is that since he has an antivirus running, he feels he’s bulletproof.
I finally forced him to let me re-install Windows a few months ago, as he claimed the PC was running slow and I feared he got bit again. And here’s the corker: it’s 9 year old Dell running Win XP with 512 MB of RAM (yes, you read that right.)
Mentioned this before, but he’s been making noises about getting a new computer. I pleaded with him that if wanted to stick with Windows, buy one before November before Win 8 became the default OS. I can only imagine how miserable he’s going to be using that.d
I personally don’t have problem with Win 8, but trying to get a narrow-minded guy in his 70’s to learn a new OS is going to hell on earth.
Yeah, this is a still (relatively) new laptop, he bought last year running Win7, so he avoided that headache. I’ve seen Win8 on display at the local stores and…well…Microsoft seems to be holding true to its business strategy of meeting every good/great OS with an absolute hot mess. I know it wants to get in on that sweet, sweet tablet market money, but making every computer into a tablet PC isn’t going to work.
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CuriousLurker Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:46:42am |
re: #345 Targetpractice
…If he’s lucky, they might have something that’ll allow them to perform a System Restore. Otherwise, it’s back to factory fresh and he’s lost everything he didn’t have backed up.
Ouch. Which reminds me, I haven’t backed up mine in a while.
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Eclectic Cyborg Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:46:54am |
Judge, DOJ question $20M severance for outgoing American Airlines CEO
According to the Wall Street Journal, the judge overseeing American’s bankruptcy proceedings said yesterday that while it’s now okay for the beleaguered carrier to let its creditors vote on the merger, it would be “inappropriate” for the court to sign off the sizable severance package that Horton would receive for handing over the reins of the merged companies to US Airways CEO Dough Parker.
The judge’s decision comes about a week after the trustee in the bankruptcy case expressed skepticism over Horton’s huge package, telling the airline that, under bankruptcy law, severance packages can not be handed out “without factual and circumstantial justification.”
And the trustee isn’t alone. The Justice Dept. has objected to Horton’s severance, referring to it as an “end run around” laws intended to curb payouts and bonuses to companies under Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection. Under the law, the severance would need to be less than 10 times the average severance paid to non-management employees during the same calendar year.Lawyers for American say that stipulation of the Bankruptcy Code doesn’t apply because the severance wouldn’t be paid by American, but by the new, merged, no-longer-bankrupt airline.
“We do not believe a company can evade congressional requirements in the Bankruptcy Code simply by delaying payment of a $20 million severance until the day after confirmation” said the director of the DOJ’s U.S. Trustee Program, which monitors bankruptcy proceedings.
The judge’s hesitance doesn’t mean Horton won’t get his money. It just means that the matter of his payout won’t delay letting the creditors vote on the merger.
He’ll probably still get his money, but at least some people are scrutinizing these kinds of payouts a little more closely.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:47:44am |
re: #360 Vicious Babushka
I have actually trained my mom to be responsible about computer security and maintenance. It took a long time but now she can run through the standard sweep of checking this and running that that I’d do, so she only has to call me when things are seriously fubared. She also hasn’t gotten a virus in about two years— and that was from the goddamn SF Symphony’s infected site.
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Eclectic Cyborg Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:49:05am |
re: #347 lawhawk
Whoops. North Korea photos ostensibly showing its military exercises (including amphibious assaults using hovercraft) appear to be photo edited to make them appear to be more substantial than they are.
Well what do you know? They HAVE been getting help from Iran.
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Targetpractice Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:49:24am |
re: #363 CuriousLurker
Ouch. Which reminds me, I haven’t backed up mine in a while.
Yeah, one of the wonderful things I love about Win7 is the new Backup and Restore utility. I’ve got it set to backup once a week, which is about right for me because I haven’t been in the habit of downloading a lot lately and most of the games I have bought were either through Steam or on disk.
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iossarian Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:49:33am |
re: #358 CuriousLurker
A “Bark Mitzvah”? *facepalm*
I think you’re probably right that some think it’s just a big party. The article mentioned one Hispanic guy who gave his son a “Christian” Bar Mitzvah because he was looking for a male equivalent of the quinceañera that girls have.
A quinceañera is basically just a big party, sometimes almost as elaborate as a wedding. No one knows it’s origins for sure, but religion tends to be incorporated to some degree (depending on the country). Not surprising, I guess, since that happenes with a lot of cultural practices to make them seem more legit.
Do Evangelicals tend to do some kind of first communion, or is that TOO CATHOLIC, I wonder?
A coming-of-age party is an obvious thing to do so it’s not surprising to me that non-Jewish people glom onto the Bar/Bat Mitzvah if they don’t have one readily available in their own cultural stream.
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Mattand Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:50:06am |
re: #360 Vicious Babushka
My mom also got her computer infested with malware. How did this happen? Because she always clicks on emails she thinks are from her 95-year-old girlfriends who clicked on a spam and it replicated itself to everyone in their contacts.
She also neglected to update her virus software “isn’t it supposed to do that automatically?”
The thing is, I don’t expect people to know as much about computers as I do. Hell, I am by no means an expert by any stretch. And people are going to make mistakes. It’s just when they repeatedly do it over and over and over again, and then fight me on when they plead for help, I get pissed.
That’s great that your mom is that old and is using this stuff. Any possibility of getting her on an iPad, or some sort of tablet? That might cut down on some this stuff.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:50:58am |
re: #368 iossarian
I love the Bar Mitzvah preparation scene from “Keeping the Faith”. It ends with a kid playing a bongo and saying “I love that I suck.”
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iossarian Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:51:01am |
re: #364 Eclectic Cyborg
Judge, DOJ question $20M severance for outgoing American Airlines CEO
He’ll probably still get his money, but at least some people are scrutinizing these kinds of payouts a little more closely.
The new CEO’s name is “Dough Parker”?
The mind boggles.
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William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:51:22am |
re: #357 Mattand
I feel your pain. My father, a very intelligent guy, has been bit twice by spyware/phishing scams. The big problem is that since he has an antivirus running, he feels he’s bulletproof.
I finally forced him to let me re-install Windows a few months ago, as he claimed the PC was running slow and I feared he got bit again. And here’s the corker: it’s 9 year old Dell running Win XP with 512 MB of RAM (yes, you read that right.)
Mentioned this before, but he’s been making noises about getting a new computer. I pleaded with him that if wanted to stick with Windows, buy one before November before Win 8 became the default OS. I can only imagine how miserable he’s going to be using that.d
I personally don’t have problem with Win 8, but trying to get a narrow-minded guy in his 70’s to learn a new OS is going to hell on earth.
I am grateful that my father isn’t terribly computer literate and knows it - he is very happy to do what little computer work he wants to do on an Ipad.
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Eclectic Cyborg Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:52:00am |
re: #371 iossarian
The new CEO’s name is “Dough Parker”?
The mind boggles.
I am guessing it’s pronounced “Doug” with the H silent, but it is humourous nevertheless.
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iossarian Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:52:09am |
“Hi, I’m the new CEO.”
“What’s your name?”
“Cash McRichfucker.”
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Eclectic Cyborg Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:52:50am |
I’m no expert but I was under the impression that iOS stuff is generally less susceptible to viruses than Android devices.
Can anyone here confirm?
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:53:57am |
re: #365 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut
I have actually trained my mom to be responsible about computer security and maintenance. It took a long time but now she can run through the standard sweep of checking this and running that that I’d do, so she only has to call me when things are seriously fubared. She also hasn’t gotten a virus in about two years— and that was from the goddamn SF Symphony’s infected site.
And she is always forwarding me these stupid email urban legends even though I sent her snopes.com years ago!
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:54:27am |
WHAT RIGHT-WING RACISM?
Blacks claim they can’t get ID’s to vote, yet they ALL HAVE one to claim Federal Benefits…. make ID (picture) MANDATORY PERIOD #tcot #tgdn— Cool Car Guy (@JoeSixpackSays) March 28, 2013
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Targetpractice Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:54:41am |
re: #369 Mattand
The thing is, I don’t expect people to know as much about computers as I do. Hell, I am by no means an expert by any stretch. And people are going to make mistakes. It’s just when they repeatedly do it over and over and over again, and then fight me on when they plead for help, I get pissed.
That’s great that your mom is that old and is using this stuff. Any possibility of getting her on an iPad, or some sort of tablet? That might cut down on some this stuff.
The only thing more frustrating, at least in my personal experience, is the person who obviously needs help but keeps chugging along because “it still works.” My sister’s computer can still play games, but any sort of web browsing moves at a snail’s pace. Her last two computers were pretty much the same, so stuffed with malware and useless junk that I would have felt compelled to melt their HDDs with thermite on general principle.
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iossarian Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:55:23am |
I was re-reading Dr. Seuss’s “23 Daves” last night for the first time since I was about 8 last night. Awesome made-up names in there - I could still remember about half of them.
“Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate”
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Targetpractice Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:55:41am |
re: #375 Eclectic Cyborg
I’m no expert but I was under the impression that iOS stuff is generally less susceptible to viruses than Android devices.
Can anyone here confirm?
iOS isn’t less susceptible to viruses…it’s just that nobody’s writing viruses for the handful of Apple users.
*ducks and runs*
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wheat-dogghazi Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:57:12am |
I have checked the websites of the Steubenville newspaper, the Cincinnati Enquirer and the Columbus Dispatch and found nothing about a Steubenville NAACP saying anything about the rape victim.
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Interesting Times Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:57:13am |
re: #374 iossarian
“Hi, I’m the new CEO.”
“What’s your name?”
“Cash McRichfucker.”
Speaking of rich fuckers:
Remember last year when angry old sportswriter Harry “Buzz” Bissinger endorsed Mitt Romney because Mittens was totally lying about everything? It was probably non-sports fans’ first introduction to the douchepile that is Buzz Bissinger, so here is a quick primer.
…
Tuesday we learned that Buzz Bissinger is a worse human being than anyone previously imagined.Back when this Romney booster was complaining about poors not putting “skin in the game” because they don’t make enough money to pay federal income tax (though they do pay payroll taxes, excise taxes, sales taxes, and property taxes while struggling to eke out a living in an economy that’s seen record corporate profits and 30 years of real wage stagnation) he also purchased $600,000 in hideous poseur clothes.
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iossarian Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:57:29am |
re: #380 Targetpractice
iOS isn’t less susceptible to viruses…it’s just that nobody’s writing viruses for the handful of Apple users.
*ducks and runs*
I think it’s more that the scammers don’t want to hand over 33% of their gross revenue to Apple :)
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Interesting Times Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:58:20am |
re: #381 wheat-dogghazi
I have checked the websites of the Steubenville newspaper, the Cincinnati Enquirer and the Columbus Dispatch and found nothing about a Steubenville NAACP saying anything about the rape victim.
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Mattand Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:58:30am |
re: #375 Eclectic Cyborg
I’m no expert but I was under the impression that iOS stuff is generally less susceptible to viruses than Android devices.
Can anyone here confirm?
To a degree. For your typical virus, yeah. I’m a little fuzzy on phishing scams, where you click on a link thats supposedly from your bank or Comcast.
My recommendation is usually that if you’re doing real basic stuff, like surfing and photos, and you can live with the touch keyboard, get a tablet.
I get hung up on tablets because I write a lot and am a touch typist. The lack of feed back from the onscreen keyboard really slows me down.
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Mattand Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:00:41am |
re: #379 iossarian
I was re-reading Dr. Seuss’s “23 Daves” last night for the first time since I was about 8 last night. Awesome made-up names in there - I could still remember about half of them.
“Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate”
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:01:11am |
Wingnuts are seething because Granny didn’t fall for Paul “Grannykiller” Ryan’s plan, so now they’re blaming it on Obama:
Seniors….. REMEMBER who brought you Obamacare next election. If you are still living. #tcot #ctot #TGDN— ?Jeannie’s View (@jeanniemcbride) March 28, 2013
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makeitstop Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:01:45am |
re: #385 Mattand
My recommendation is usually that if you’re doing real basic stuff, like surfing and photos, and you can live with the touch keyboard, get a tablet.
I get hung up on tablets because I write a lot and am a touch typist. The lack of feed back from the onscreen keyboard really slows me down.
I bought a Kindle Fire last week, and you’re right - it’s great for passive surfing. But anything that requires typing becomes a chore, and I go back to my trusty laptop for that.
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CuriousLurker Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:02:10am |
re: #368 iossarian
Do Evangelicals tend to do some kind of first communion, or is that TOO CATHOLIC, I wonder?
A coming-of-age party is an obvious thing to do so it’s not surprising to me that non-Jewish people glom onto the Bar/Bat Mitzvah if they don’t have one readily available in their own cultural stream.
I don’t think they do first communions—definitely too Catholic, heh.
I would’ve thought that quinceañeras were something brought to the New World by the Spaniards, but Google says no one knows for sure. There’s a myth about it being related to Aztec culture, but if that were true it wouldn’t explain why it appears from Brazil to the Caribbean to Mexico.
Yeah, I guess it’s natural for people to want to mark the transition from childhood to… well, not really adulthood… at least it’s not considered so nowadays.
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iossarian Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:02:59am |
re: #386 Mattand
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Indeed. I wonder if the MST3K people consciously recreated the Dr. Seuss idiom there, or whether it was just latent from their childhoods.
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wheat-dogghazi Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:03:23am |
re: #384 Interesting Times
The source seems to be this story in the International Business Times ibtimes.com
I have no idea how reliable this story is, or what bearing it has on the rape. Many of the same (white) bloggers screaming about Mayo’s comments probably would agree with what he allegedly says.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:04:22am |
re: #391 wheat-dogghazi
IBT is pretty wingnutty.
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Targetpractice Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:06:28am |
re: #385 Mattand
To a degree. For your typical virus, yeah. I’m a little fuzzy on phishing scams, where you click on a link thats supposedly from your bank or Comcast.
My recommendation is usually that if you’re doing real basic stuff, like surfing and photos, and you can live with the touch keyboard, get a tablet.
I get hung up on tablets because I write a lot and am a touch typist. The lack of feed back from the onscreen keyboard really slows me down.
Tablets are becoming everything that netbooks were supposed to be, the only redeeming quality of the latter remaining that it’s cheaper. And with the increasing power and complexity of Kindles, even that will eventually be moot.
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wheat-dogghazi Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:06:45am |
re: #392 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut
That’s what I gather. Kinda like a wingnut version of the HuffPost
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Mattand Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:06:47am |
re: #390 iossarian
Indeed. I wonder if the MST3K people consciously recreated the Dr. Seuss idiom there, or whether it was just latent from their childhoods.
I’m ashamed to admit I’ve never heard of the book before. And I was a huge Dr. Seuss fan as a kid.
My second thought after hearing the name “23 Daves” was the 30 Helens Agree sketches from The Kids in the Hall.
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AlexRogan Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:07:41am |
re: #390 iossarian
Indeed. I wonder if the MST3K people consciously recreated the Dr. Seuss idiom there, or whether it was just latent from their childhoods.
Blast Hardcheese…
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iossarian Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:09:47am |
re: #382 Interesting Times
Buzz Bissinger is indeed dickish in his political views, but I think the criticism of his sportswriting is somewhat misplaced.
What’s odd is that in “Friday Night Lights” he pretty clearly spells out how hard-working, deserving high-school athletes basically get fucked over by the system, and the corrosive effects of racism on small-town America, but those observations don’t then seem to find a reflection in his personal opinions.
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CuriousLurker Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:09:47am |
re: #395 Mattand
I’m ashamed to admit I’ve never heard of the book before. And I was a huge Dr. Seuss fan as a kid.
Same here. O_o
Okay, time to get back to work…
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:09:54am |
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Bulworth Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:10:46am |
re: #387 Vicious Babushka
if you are still living…
Because death panels. /
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iossarian Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:11:22am |
re: #395 Mattand
I’m ashamed to admit I’ve never heard of the book before. And I was a huge Dr. Seuss fan as a kid.
My second thought after hearing the name “23 Daves” was the 30 Helens Agree sketches from The Kids in the Hall.
“23 Daves” is actually a short-ish poem, so you might have read it in a longer book without remembering the name of the piece itself. It’s really just a list of what the mother should have called her 23 kids, instead of just “Dave”, which is confusing.
“But she didn’t do it, and now it’s too late.”
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:12:07am |
re: #403 Bulworth
if you are still living…
Because death panels. /
Funny how I got hate Tweets from wingnuts “Go die in a ditch with a rape whistle!” just for correcting their Fake Quotes now they claim to be the ones who “care” about seniors (which BTW I am not old enough to retire).
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Bulworth Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:12:38am |
re: #387 Vicious Babushka
Because Obamacare gets rid of Medicare and cuts Medicare spending but Obamacare sucks because it doesn’t cut spending and DEFICITS. /
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:13:15am |
Now why would that be? Because people who have JRRBZ at Walmart don’t get paid enough to support themselves & their families?
OP: Food stamp use continues to grow to unprecedented levels - even when unemployment shrinks dlvr.it/38M2XD #tcot #TGDN— Wayne Mathison (@wmathison) March 28, 2013
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Bulworth Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:15:17am |
re: #407 Vicious Babushka
Unprecedented levels!!!
Seriously. Do wingnuts not realize that Food Stamps are used to buy food, and that buying food is Good, because it enables low income people to have more to eat AND it provides income for JOB CREATORS, who grow the food and sell the food?
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AlexRogan Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:15:21am |
“Slab Bulkhead”, “Fridge Largemeat”, “Punt Speedchunk”, “Butch Deadlift”, “Bold Bigflank”, “Splint Chesthair”, “Flint Ironstag”, “Bolt Vanderhuge”, “Thick McRunfast”, “Blast Hardcheese”, “Buff Drinklots”, “Trunk Slamchest”, “Fist Rockbone”, “Stump Beefgnaw”, “Smash Lampjaw”, “Punch Rockgroin”, “Buck Plankchest”, “Stump Chunkman”, “Dirk Hardpeck”, “Rip Steakface”, “Slate Slabrock,Crud Bonemeal”, “Brick Hardmeat”, “Rip Sidecheek”, “Punch Sideiron, “Gristle McThornBody”, “Slake Fistcrunch”, “Buff Hardback”, “Bob Johnson, oh wait..”, “Blast Thickneck”, “Crunch Buttsteak”, “Slab Squatthrust”, “Lump Beefrock, “Touch Rustrod”, “Reef Blastbody”, “Big McLargeHuge”, “Smoke Manmuscle, “Beat Punchbeef”, “Pack Blowfist”, “Roll Fizzlebeef”
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:16:40am |
re: #408 Bulworth
Unprecedented levels!!!
Seriously. Do wingnuts not realize that Food Stamps are used to buy food, and that buying food is Good, because it enables low income people to have more to eat AND it provides income for JOB CREATORS, who grow the food and sell the food?
BUT THEY USE EBT CARD TO BUY STEAKS & LOBSTERZ & BREYER’S ICE CREAMS!!111!!!!I SEED PICTUR UF RECEIPT ON TEH INTERWEBZ AN EVEN TEH SNOAPS SEZ IT TEH TROOF!!!111!!!!!
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Bulworth Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:17:59am |
OP: Food stamp use continues to grow to unprecedented levels - even when unemployment shrinks
Do wingnuts not realize that employed people, people who work, who have jobs, receive food stamps? Some people’s jobs happen to pay very little so they have access to food stamps, which help them pay their other bills, like rent and stuff. And being able to pay bills and spend money helps the economy. Not sure I see the OUTRAGE here.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:19:30am |
re: #411 Bulworth
Do wingnuts not realize that employed people, people who work, who have jobs, receive food stamps? Some people’s jobs happen to pay very little so they have access to food stamps, which help them pay their other bills, like rent and stuff. And being able to pay bills and spend money helps the economy. Not sure I see the OUTRAGE here.
POOR PEOPLES IS BUYING STEAKZ N LOBSTERZ WITH TEH EBT CARD!1!! TEHY SHUD ONLY GET BEANS RICE & GRUEL1!!!1111
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wheat-dogghazi Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:19:42am |
re: #411 Bulworth
Eligibility also depends on household size. A single mom with two or three kids needs food stamps to feed them, if her pay is too small.
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iossarian Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:20:18am |
re: #411 Bulworth
Do wingnuts not realize that employed people, people who work, who have jobs, receive food stamps? Some people’s jobs happen to pay very little so they have access to food stamps, which help them pay their other bills, like rent and stuff. And being able to pay bills and spend money helps the economy. Not sure I see the OUTRAGE here.
I remember the kerfuffle a few years back about airline pilots being eligible for food stamps, and the airlines trying to pressure them into not using them, because NO SHIT no-one wants to fly on a plane where the pilot isn’t paid enough to feed his family.
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AlexRogan Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:20:44am |
re: #408 Bulworth
Unprecedented levels!!!
Seriously. Do wingnuts not realize that Food Stamps are used to buy food, and that buying food is Good, because it enables low income people to have more to eat AND it provides income for JOB CREATORS, who grow the food and sell the food?
re: #410 Vicious Babushka
“Strapping young bucks” and T-bone steaks.
That is all one needs to remember when they hear someone rail against SNAP, WIC, or any other federal food assistance program.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:22:10am |
re: #415 AlexRogan
re: #410 Vicious Babushka
“Strapping young bucks” and T-bone steaks.
That is all one needs to remember when they hear someone rail against SNAP, WIC, or any other federal food assistance program.
Pic: Debit Food Stamps.. #tcot #teaparty #obama #tlot #gop #PJNET #Patriot #TGDN #LNYHBT twitter.com/UlyssesRN/stat…— UlyssesRN (@UlyssesRN) March 27, 2013
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AlexRogan Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:27:22am |
re: #416 Vicious Babushka
That receipt has been altered; while it may be true, it also may be equally true that someone chopped it. Seeing as it has been altered, I wouldn’t trust it any further that I could throw the person who posted that pic.
RWNJs tend to be dumb sheep, willing to believe almost anything that reinforces their POV.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:27:33am |
What does Jesus crucifixion have to do with picking up painted eggs? BOYCOTT EGG HUNTS THEY ARE PAGAN!
Stop being PC! Don’t let them tell us how to celebrate our Christian holidays ! It’s an Easter Egg hunt. Not Egg Hunt! #tgdn #tcot #pjnet— Lucy (@mcgregorgirl1) March 28, 2013
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William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:28:10am |
re: #414 iossarian
I remember the kerfuffle a few years back about airline pilots being eligible for food stamps, and the airlines trying to pressure them into not using them, because NO SHIT no-one wants to fly on a plane where the pilot isn’t paid enough to feed his family.
A US Army Staff Sergeant (~10 years of service to that rank), married with 2 children qualifies for food stamps. That says a lot about Republican priorities and none of it is good.
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The Mountain That Blogs Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:28:15am |
re: #416 Vicious Babushka
Who the heck drinks diet Mountain Dew?
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:28:59am |
re: #417 AlexRogan
That receipt has been altered; while it may be true, it also may be equally true that someone chopped it. Seeing as it has been altered, I wouldn’t trust it any further that I could throw the person who posted that pic.
RWNJs are dumb sheep, willing to believe almost anything that reinforces their POV.
Snopes says True. However they also say the card was stolen and the person who used it was arrested for fraud.
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calochortus Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:29:29am |
re: #416 Vicious Babushka
From whence did this receipt come? Did the ebil food stamp recipients highlight the “food stamps” part, copy it and put it on the internet, laughing all the while?
Or did someone fake it?
In any event, it looks like a party to me and even poor people should get to party occasionally. Would it make any difference to the wingnuts if this was part of an enormous church picnic celebrating some socially acceptable event?
eta: in light of the previous post-OK, fraud, but I still stand by my statement that the poor should get to party now and then. :)
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Bubblehead II Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:30:00am |
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The Mountain That Blogs Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:30:34am |
re: #423 Bubblehead II
Oh. Well…carry on then.
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AlexRogan Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:31:50am |
re: #420 The Mountain That Blogs
Who the heck drinks diet Mountain Dew?
Our household does…lots of it.
Aside from me (who often drinks Kroger’s version of Coke Zero and Diet Dr. Pepper), everyone else in the house drinks it almost exclusively whenever they have a soda.
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geoffm33 Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:31:52am |
re: #421 Vicious Babushka
Snopes says True. However they also say the card was stolen and the person who used it was arrested for fraud.
And honestly whats the big deal? There is a monthly allowance on the EBT card. It’s not a a no-limit debit card tied to the state savings account. While there are certain items (booze/lapdances/etc) that should be exempt form EBT use, if someone wants to indulge on “rich people” food, who cares!
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Bulworth Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:32:11am |
re: #421 Vicious Babushka
Snopes says True. However they also say the card was stolen and the person who used it was arrested for fraud.
Well if there’s even one case of fraud or misuse, even if an EBT is stolen, then I guess we have to get rid of the whole program. //
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GunstarGreen Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:32:46am |
re: #10 Vicious Babushka
If G-D is merciful why would He send anyone to eternal torture? People are judged by the good & the evil that they do but ultimately all souls achieve salvation.
The issue is that The Bible™ describes two entirely different Gods.
The Old Testament God is a vengeful and wrathful God that will kill you in the most vile ways possible for even the slightest offense, even ones committed purely by accident. This is the God of Leviticus, that book that comes after The Ten Commandments™ and lays out ‘oh yeah, and here are all the other rules you have to follow after the Big Ten’. Mostly to do with how women are inferior, the specific circumstances under which you may kidnap and enslave other races and/or force-marry (rape) the women of other races, and the various things that one can do to justify forgoing Thou Shalt Not Kill and go straight to Thou Shalt Kill With Extreme Prejudice, usually stoning.
Eventually people started wising up to this act and realizing that, if this God is real and really does condemn people to eternities of pain and torment for finite offenses over the course of a life that lasts less than 100 years, then God is a malevolent and evil entity that must be fought and destroyed.
So the religious leaders of the world had to come up with The Bible 2.0, also known as The New Testament™, in which God pretends that all of the incredibly vile shit he did previously no longer counts and now he loves everyone through Jay Cee.
The problem with all of this, of course, is that in order to continue using The Bible™ to justify hating Teh Gayz, you have to go back to the Old Testament, so modern conservative christian types end up having to piece together a hodgepodge of a religion sewn together from those parts of both books that are most convenient for them personally.
See also: How Erick, Son of Erick can talk about Teh Gayz going to hell while eating shellfish and wearing mixed fabrics.
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Bulworth Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:32:56am |
re: #426 AlexRogan
Our household does…lots of it.
Aside from me (who often drinks Kroger’s version of Coke Zero and Diet Dr. Pepper), everyone else in the house drinks it almost exclusively whenever they have a soda.
Yeah I drink the diet Dew from time to time.
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darthstar Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:34:10am |
@kagrox The Pistorius family needs a new hobby.— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) March 28, 2013
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:34:10am |
re: #422 calochortus
From whence did this receipt come? Did the ebil food stamp recipients highlight the “food stamps” part, copy it and put it on the internet, laughing all the while?
Or did someone fake it?
In any event, it looks like a party to me and even poor people should get to party occasionally. Would it make any difference to the wingnuts if this was part of an enormous church picnic celebrating some socially acceptable event?
According to Snopes, some guy stole his girlfriend’s card and used it to buy the steak & lobsters, then was arrested for trying to sell the food he bought.
Wingnuts love to circulate these images (there is another one showing something like $84 spent on candy) to claim that EVERYBODY ON FOOD STAMPS IS BUYING THIS STUFF.
The fact is that EBT card can be used to buy any food items, it’s not limited to rice & gruel.
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Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:34:25am |
re: #418 Vicious Babushka
What does Jesus crucifixion have to do with picking up painted eggs? BOYCOTT EGG HUNTS THEY ARE PAGAN!
People should be reminded that the word “Easter” itself most likely comes from the name of a pagan goddess.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:35:14am |
re: #427 geoffm33
And honestly whats the big deal? There is a monthly allowance on the EBT card. It’s not a a no-limit debit card tied to the state savings account. While there are certain items (booze/lapdances/etc) that should be exempt form EBT use, if someone wants to indulge on “rich people” food, who cares!
You can’t use an EBT card to buy non-food items or alcohol.
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AlexRogan Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:35:42am |
re: #427 geoffm33
And honestly whats the big deal? There is a monthly allowance on the EBT card. It’s not a a no-limit debit card tied to the state savings account. While there are certain items (booze/lapdances/etc) that should be exempt form EBT use, if someone wants to indulge on “rich people” food, who cares!
It all goes back to that (barely) veiled “strapping young bucks and T-bone steaks” remark that Reagan made in ‘76; a lot of RWNJs apparently still feel that way.
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Bulworth Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:35:46am |
re: #432 Vicious Babushka
And what the hell is wrong with steak and lobster anyway?
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:36:01am |
DERP
In 2012, less than 2,000 kids killed by guns; more than one million killed by abortion. #prolife #guncontrol #tcot #ccot #tgdn #pjnet— Peter M. Abraham (@PeterMAbraham) March 28, 2013
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Jolo5309 Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:36:28am |
re: #209 Interesting Times
Our stupid and idiotic “first past the post” election system made it such that 40% of the electorate was able to foist the Harper government upon us. I’m presently involved with a group trying to arrange strategic cooperation between the opposition parties to ensure this vote-splitting doesn’t screw us again (like parties agreeing not to run a candidate who could take votes away from the progressive most likely to win a “conservative” riding)
Yes, because we weren’t stuck with other governments with 40% of the vote. If you go back and look, you will see that in the last 60 years exactly 2 governments were formed when they got more then 50% of the vote, Diefenbaker & Mulroney. I notice it is an issue now that it is a Conservative government, where was the outrage when it was Chretien winning with 40%?
All that being said, who will lead this new government as PM, Trudeau or Mulcair?
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calochortus Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:37:30am |
re: #432 Vicious Babushka
And they better buy the original, long cooking gruel too. No luxurious instant gruel for the poor!
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geoffm33 Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:37:43am |
re: #434 Vicious Babushka
You can’t use an EBT card to buy non-food items or alcohol.
I know, but up here in MA you can/could make cash withdrawals to be used on any item you wish.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:39:00am |
re: #440 geoffm33
I know, but up here in MA you can/could make cash withdrawals to be used on any item you wish.
I did not know that because I AM ONE OF THOSE MYTHICAL LIBRULZ WHO WORKS.
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Bulworth Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:39:18am |
re: #437 Vicious Babushka
OK, then, let’s not worry or try to address the 2000 kids outside the womb killed by guns because abortionz. //
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geoffm33 Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:39:24am |
re: #440 geoffm33
I know, but up here in MA you can/could make cash withdrawals to be used on any item you wish.
Just to add….
The bad behavior of a few (making cash withdrawals to buy cigs, etc) shouldn’t make policy for the majority that follow the rules.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:40:52am |
re: #443 geoffm33
Just to add….
The bad behavior of a few (making cash withdrawals to buy cigs, etc) shouldn’t make policy for the majority that follow the rules.
Isn’t it strange wingnuts make the exact same argument
THE BAD BEHAVIOR OF A FEW (MASS MURDERERS IN SCHOOLS, MALLS, MOVIE SHOWS) SHOULDN’T MAKE POLICY FOR THE MAJORITY OF LAW ABIDING ASSAULT GUN OWNERS!11!!!!!
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iossarian Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:41:56am |
re: #427 geoffm33
And honestly whats the big deal? There is a monthly allowance on the EBT card. It’s not a a no-limit debit card tied to the state savings account. While there are certain items (booze/lapdances/etc) that should be exempt form EBT use, if someone wants to indulge on “rich people” food, who cares!
If you are poor, you should feel guilty for any assistance you receive.
Standard right-wing divide-and-conquer BS.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:42:07am |
When I have pointed that out,
FOOD STAMPZ IS NOT A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT U LIBRUL TROLL!!!!1111SPAM BLOCK TEH LIBRUL!!!!111
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:43:35am |
MOAR FOOD STAMP RAGE
THE TRUE OBAMA LEGACY! WSJ: Food Stamp Rolls Surge 70% Since Obama Took Office… shar.es/dfeK1 #TGDN #TCOT #RedNationRising— Nah Baby Nah (@NahBabyNah) March 28, 2013
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Bulworth Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:44:14am |
re: #446 Vicious Babushka
And obviously the right to own machine gun bazookas is absolutely Constitutional and completely barred from regulation even if the law abiding gun owner isn’t a part of the state’s militia, which the Constitution says is part of the whole law-abiding gun owner thing. /
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AlexRogan Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:44:26am |
re: #445 iossarian
If you are poor, you should feel guilty for any assistance you receive.
Standard right-wing divide-and-conquer BS.
Sins and the required penance: the RRWNJs’ tools of the trade to to guilt trip others.
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Bulworth Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:45:16am |
re: #447 Vicious Babushka
MOAR FOOD STAMP RAGE
THE TRUE OBAMA LEGACY! WSJ: Food Stamp Rolls Surge 70% Since Obama Took Office… shar.es/dfeK1 #TGDN #TCOT #RedNationRising
— Nah Baby Nah (@NahBabyNah) March 28, 2013
So how’s that ‘rebranding’ going, TeabagGOP?
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darthstar Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:47:34am |
re: #450 Bulworth
So how’s that ‘rebranding’ going, TeabagGOP?
I heard this morning SarahPac released a new web ad. Not that Sarah or SarahPac mean a damn thing, but she sucks attention away from the rest of the GOP like a leech hooked into the femoral artery.
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Ian G. Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:50:58am |
re: #447 Vicious Babushka
Why, it’s almost as if we saw a terrible economic contraction during Obama’s administration, and all the automatic stabilizers that help people thrown out of work kicked in…..
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:51:01am |
re: #417 AlexRogan
That receipt has been altered; while it may be true, it also may be equally true that someone chopped it. Seeing as it has been altered, I wouldn’t trust it any further that I could throw the person who posted that pic.
RWNJs tend to be dumb sheep, willing to believe almost anything that reinforces their POV.
tl;dr -
scam artist arrested for felony food stamp trafficking and sentenced to jail + probation.
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:55:23am |
re: #413 wheat-dogghazi
Eligibility also depends on household size. A single mom with two or three kids needs food stamps to feed them, if her pay is too small.
This sort of nuance is like a pin dropping in the RW echo shouting outrage chamber
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Mattand Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:56:58am |
re: #447 Vicious Babushka
MOAR FOOD STAMP RAGE
I’m guessing the “70% food stamp increase” isn’t true, or is incredibly distorted.
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geoffm33 Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:57:21am |
re: #454 Sol Berdinowitz
This sort of nuance is like a pin dropping in the RW echo shouting outrage chamber
Also lost on them is the fact that many of their friends, relatives, neighbors are on government assistance (or gay for that matter).
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Mattand Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:00:44am |
re: #455 Mattand
I’m wondering if the 70% thing started here with this Bloomberg article:
Seventy percent of counties with the fastest-growth in food-stamp aid during the last four years voted for the Republican presidential candidate in 2008, according to U.S. Department of Agriculture data compiled by Bloomberg. They include Republican strongholds like King County, Texas, which in 2008 backed Republican John McCain by 92.6 percent, his largest share in the nation; and fast-growing Douglas County, Colorado.
Has all the hallmarks of a right-wing meme: take something out of context and spin it into the ground.
EDIT: I guess it’s true. Here’s the CBO report, although this line I find interesting:
Why Have SNAP Participation and Spending Increased So Much?
Almost two-thirds of the growth in spending on SNAP benefits between 2007 and 2011 stemmed from the increase in the number of participants. Labor market conditions deteriorated dramatically between 2007 and 2009 and have been slow to recover; since 2007, both the number of people eligible for the program and the share of those who are eligible and who participate in the program have risen.
So who was President in 2007 and 2008?
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Interesting Times Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:03:12am |
re: #438 Jolo5309
All that being said, who will lead this new government as PM, Trudeau or Mulcair?
Way to miss the point by several parsecs. On the other hand, perhaps you’re not familiar with Cooperate4Canada:
Thousands of Canadians are joining the party of their choice to support a one-time agreement between the Liberals, NDP and Greens to cooperate during the next election to defeat Prime Minister Harper’s government and then pass crucial reforms.
…
In the last federal election, 61% of voters cast ballots for change, but the vote split and our broken electoral system gave Prime Minister Harper a majority of seats in Parliament.Now, Prime Minister Harper is damaging our democracy, destroying our environmental protections, and undermining our economy. We can hold Prime Minister Harper accountable, renew our democracy and rise to the challenges of our times – but we need to work together.
It has nothing to do with the current government being “conservative” - it’s about it being batshit insane and destructive. Case in point, if you care about government waste, you should care about Harper trying to destroy the independent Parlimentary Budget Office watchdog:
Kevin Page, Canada’s federal budget watchdog, is the man who showed Canadians that this government’s plan to buy F-35 fighter jets would cost $29 billion – not the $9 billion Canadians were promised.3 So now, just as Harper is trying to rush another secretive budget through Parliament, he’s replacing Kevin Page and quietly destroying the Parliamentary Budget Office (PBO).
And yes, I’m in “anyone but Harper” mode. Given these facts, you can hardly blame me and everyone else who feels the same.
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William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:04:32am |
re: #429 GunstarGreen
That belief is a long time heresy according to orthodox christian theology but it is a popular justification for anti-semitism.
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wrenchwench Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:04:42am |
what the fuck? = research question.how the fuck?= methodology.those fucks. = lit. review.— Nein. (@NeinQuarterly) March 28, 2013
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:05:27am |
re: #443 geoffm33
Just to add….
The bad behavior of a few (making cash withdrawals to buy cigs, etc) shouldn’t make policy for the majority that follow the rules.
OH LOOKY HERE
We the honest gun owners of America will NOT be blamed for the actions of mad men. Freedom rules not fear. #NRA #TCOT #LNYHBT #TGDN #Redeye— Jerry NRA Reichardt (@NRA2ndAmendment) March 28, 2013
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efuseakay Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:05:37am |
What’s all this stink about the Monsanto Protection Act? Seeing a lot of buzz from the usual suspects.
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AlexRogan Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:05:41am |
re: #457 Mattand
I’m wondering if the 70% thing started here with this Bloomberg article:
Has all the hallmarks of a right-wing meme: take something out of context and spin it into the ground.
In other words, the RWNJs are pulling “IOKIYAR”, but purposely leave that point out as they try to beat President Obama and the Feds over the head with it.
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Lidane Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:06:33am |
One of my Senators, y’all:
Top Republican Senator warns of French people illegally crossing Mexican border in South Texas thkpr.gs/YGjd9W— ThinkProgress (@thinkprogress) March 28, 2013
Good luck with that GOP rebranding, Reince! You’re going to need it.
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The Mountain That Blogs Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:08:32am |
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Mattand Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:08:39am |
re: #463 AlexRogan
In other words, the RWNJs are pulling “IOKIYAR”, but purposely leave that point out as they try to beat President Obama and the Feds over the head with it.
Sort of. I edited my original post. Short story: the 70% number is accurate, but the report cites the years 2007 to 2009 as when the bottom fell out. Who was running the country in 2007 and 2008?
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geoffm33 Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:11:07am |
re: #461 Vicious Babushka
OH LOOKY HERE
Well, the next time an EBT holder takes a cash withdrawal to go to the nudie bar and 26 teachers and 5 year olds die, I’ll rethink my position :)
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darthstar Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:12:32am |
re: #464 Lidane
One of my Senators, y’all:
Good luck with that GOP rebranding, Reince! You’re going to need it.
You try lugging 40lbs of unpasteurized cheeze across 35 miles of hot desert…mon dieu!
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lawhawk Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:12:59am |
re: #455 Mattand
According to MoJo, food stamp usage has increased during Obama’s term in office, but not by 70%. It’s gone from about 14% to 18% (a jump of about 28%). But that’s after the food stamp usage increased from just about 8.5% to 14% during President Bush’s presidency. During Bush, that would be about a 55% increase.
Neither particular figure is good, but there’s further context too. States and the feds were trying to make sure that people who were eligible for SNAP and WIC were actually getting on the programs. The increase was also due to economic conditions. Not nearly a 140 character summation, but it’s far more nuanced than the bogus 70% increase.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:13:34am |
re: #468 darthstar
You try lugging 40lbs of unpasteurized cheeze across 35 miles of hot desert…mon dieu!
Why would French people go all the way down to Mexico to cross the border when there are thousands of miles of unprotected border and people speak French?
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Lidane Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:14:15am |
re: #465 The Mountain That Blogs
And the less embarrassing one at that.
Scary thought, that.
I can’t believe these imbeciles are my Senators. WTF.
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AlexRogan Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:14:21am |
re: #466 Mattand
Sort of. I edited my original post. Short story: the 70% number is accurate, but the report cites the years 2007 to 2009 as when the bottom fell out. Who was running the country in 2007 and 2008?
Doesn’t really matter to the hardcore RWNJs, since they tend to consider W as a RINO these days and/or everything bad that happened at the hind end of W’s administration (and the requisite mopping-up) is still Obama’s fault.
It’s pathological with them.
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Jolo5309 Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:16:27am |
re: #458 Interesting Times
So like I said, was it ok for Chretien to become PM when he got less than 40% and 62% of Canadians voted for change? The man who lied about the GST, cancelled the helicopters that Mulroney ordered, signed onto Kyoto but failed to implement anything and treated Western Canada with contempt, but vote splitting there was ok, because it was on the right.
Want to get Harper out of the government? Get a leader that is better then him. It sure isn’t Trudeau, it isn’t Mulcair, it isn’t May, it wasn’t Ignatieff or Martin.
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Lidane Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:16:29am |
re: #470 Vicious Babushka
Why would French people go all the way down to Mexico to cross the border when there are thousands of miles of unprotected border and people speak French?
Seriously. You’d think they’d start in Québec, since assimilation would be easier. After that, they could just make their way to Michigan New York then on down to the South.
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Bulworth Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:20:36am |
We the honest gun owners of America will NOT be blamed for the actions ofmad menother honest law-abiding gun owners.
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EmmaAnne Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:22:44am |
re: #375 Eclectic Cyborg
I’m no expert but I was under the impression that iOS stuff is generally less susceptible to viruses than Android devices.
Can anyone here confirm?
Yes, because Apple has set up a walled garden for apps - only approved apps are allowed unless you jailbreak your iPhone. Techie types hate the control and want Android, but aged parents are probably much happier in their garden. :-)
You said iOS (which is the phone/tablet/iPod OS) but in case you meant MacOS: there are many fewer viruses for Macs. Almost none (maybe none still) of the self-replicating type that the experts call “viruses.” But nothing can protect any computer from trojan horses, where the user installs something that does something other than what it is supposed to do. Like delete your virus protection instead of update it (yikes).
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Eclectic Cyborg Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:23:39am |
re: #447 Vicious Babushka
MOAR FOOD STAMP RAGE
Ugh, this kind of crap drives me nuts. The economy was in a TAILSPIN when Obama took office, of course that causes a lot of associated problems that He was barely, if at all, responsible for. How GWB magically gets a pass for sending us IN to the tailspin to begin with is mind boggling.
It’d be like if Captain Edward Smith turned over command of the Titanic to someone else about 30 minutes after it hit the Iceberg and THAT person alone then received the blame for the entire chain of events that led to the ship sinking.
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GunstarGreen Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:23:55am |
re: #459 William Barnett-Lewis
That belief is a long time heresy according to orthodox christian theology but it is a popular justification for anti-semitism.
Which one?
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GunstarGreen Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:26:32am |
re: #480 Eclectic Cyborg
Ugh, this kind of crap drives me nuts. The economy was in a TAILSPIN when Obama took office, of course that causes a lot of associated problems that He was barely, if at all, responsible for. How GWB magically gets a pass for sending us IN to the tailspin to begin with is mind boggling.
It’d be like if Captain Edward Smith turned over command of the Titanic to someone else about 30 minutes after it hit the Iceberg and THAT person alone then received the blame for the entire chain of events that led to the ship sinking.
There’s nothing magic or mind-boggling about it: Republicanism cannot be wrong, therefore it was not the Republican’s fault. 8 years of Bush presidency and the fallout from it cut off immediately as soon as Obama won the election (before he actually took office), and everything after that point is purely his fault because that’s what is required to maintain the belief that Republicanism did not put us in the situation we’re in now.
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Eclectic Cyborg Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:28:51am |
Wal-Mart considers using customers as (almost) free labor
So you’ve ordered something from Walmart.com, but when it arrives, it doesn’t come on a UPS/FedEX/USPS truck, or even in one of the vehicles Walmart currently uses for same-day delivery. No, it is handed to you by a fellow Walmart shopper getting paid to run an errand for the retailer.
It’s an idea the company is kicking around, and can actually see trying out.
“I see a path to where this is crowd-sourced,” Walmart.com’s CEO tells Reuters about using customers for home deliveries.Basically, Walmart customers would sign up to serve as messengers for the company, willing to deliver online orders to customers who are on the way home from the store. They probably wouldn’t be paid a wage for their efforts, but would instead get a discount on their Walmart tab that would cover the cost of fuel.
“This is at the brain-storming stage, but it’s possible in a year or two,” says the Sr. VP of Walmart U.S. innovations.
A retail industry analyst tells Reuters that he would expect to see Walmart give this a test in a handful of stores, but points out some of the potential pitfalls — lost, stolen or damaged items, unreliable messengers, lack of insurance, and a general ick-factor.
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Ian G. Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:29:26am |
re: #464 Lidane
One of my Senators, y’all:
Good luck with that GOP rebranding, Reince! You’re going to need it.
OK, the headline is a bit misleading, because Cornyn said “French-speaking”, which of course means Haitians or West Africans or the like.
The headline didn’t make much sense, given that France seems to be a positive thing to wingers now, given the recent anti-gay marriage marches there. Plus, I’m sure there are more than a few wingers who want more white people moving to the US.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:29:49am |
re: #483 Eclectic Cyborg
What is that, a coupon for speakers but all the manufacturers of decent speakers opt out?
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:29:54am |
re: #484 GunstarGreen
There’s nothing magic or mind-boggling about it: Republicanism cannot be wrong, therefore it was not the Republican’s fault. 8 years of Bush presidency and the fallout from it cut off immediately as soon as Obama won the election (before he actually took office), and everything after that point is purely his fault because that’s what is required to maintain the belief that Republicanism did not put us in the situation we’re in now.
I will concede that it was Clinton that who repealed the Glass-Steagall Act separating mortgage banking from investment banking and opening the door to all sorts of abuses, but it was under the GOP that the finance industry was able to run roughshod over the US economy and get away almost unscathed.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:31:08am |
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Eclectic Cyborg Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:32:36am |
re: #488 Vicious Babushka
What is that, a coupon for speakers but all the manufacturers of decent speakers opt out?
Basically yes, it’s for an Easter Sale at Guitar Center.
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makeitstop Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:33:29am |
re: #488 Vicious Babushka
What is that, a coupon for speakers but all the manufacturers of decent speakers opt out?
More like a discount on store items, but all the manufacturers of store items opted out.
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Bulworth Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:33:58am |
re: #486 Eclectic Cyborg
Nope, can’t see anything risky here. Should work out just fine. //
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:34:40am |
re: #493 Bulworth
Nope, can’t see anything risky here. Should work out just fine. //
What could possibly go wrong?
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Mattand Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:35:18am |
re: #469 lawhawk
According to MoJo, food stamp usage has increased during Obama’s term in office, but not by 70%. It’s gone from about 14% to 18% (a jump of about 28%). But that’s after the food stamp usage increased from just about 8.5% to 14% during President Bush’s presidency. During Bush, that would be about a 55% increase.
Neither particular figure is good, but there’s further context too. States and the feds were trying to make sure that people who were eligible for SNAP and WIC were actually getting on the programs. The increase was also due to economic conditions. Not nearly a 140 character summation, but it’s far more nuanced than the bogus 70% increase.
Thanks, boss. Appreciate the info. I should have trusted my initial judgement that it was a RWNJ meme spinning like a top.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:35:26am |
Walmart would like to pay its employees NOTHING. Maybe rice & gruel if they are full time.
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Gus Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:36:03am |
Roundel Version 4.0 twitter.com/Gus_802/status…— Gus (@Gus_802) March 28, 2013
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Eclectic Cyborg Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:37:13am |
re: #494 Vicious Babushka
What could possibly go wrong?
Someone commented on another site the possibility of a person dropping off say, a 70 inch TV at a house one day and then returning a day later to rob said house for said TV.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:39:12am |
re: #499 Eclectic Cyborg
Someone commented on another site the possibility of a person dropping off say, a 70 inch TV at a house one day and then returning a day later to rob said house for said TV.
Why bother going to the trouble of dropping off the TV at somebody’s house?
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:39:16am |
re: #499 Eclectic Cyborg
Someone commented on another site the possibility of a person dropping off say, a 70 inch TV at a house one day and then returning a day later to rob said house for said TV.
said person would probably be #1 on the suspect list…
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:42:52am |
*FACE PALM*
Who do you trust- Founding Fathers on Guns or Obama’s “Common Sense” Gun Control Plea! #nea #TCOT #tgdn ##RedNationRising #pjnet— carla lykins (@carlalykins) March 28, 2013
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:44:22am |
Flotilla 3.0: International ‘activists’ work with Hamas affiliates to sail OUT of Gaza
A new propaganda initiative designed to test the resolve of the Israeli blockade on Hamas in Gaza is seeking to highlight how trade from Gaza has been affected by Israel.
The focus of the ‘Gaza Ark’ is the fact that while goods do indeed enter the Hamas-run, Palestinian enclave, goods are said to rarely ever leave. The premise of the trip is that Gaza wants to trade with the world, rather than receive aid. Critics have called the trip “intentionally misleading”, pointing to the fact that on a weekly basis, dozens of trucks export products from Gaza.
These facts haven’t stopped the ‘Gaza Ark’ committee, however, a group which is supported by the hard-Left Noam Chomsky and disgraced Baroness Jenny Tonge. The organisation’s “Who We Are” section also lists the public relations head of the Hamas-run Gaza Chamber of Commerce, Maher Al-Tabaa, and ‘one-state solution’ advocates such as Haidar Eid, who also works at the Al-Aqsa University, an institution that Hamas boasted about ‘taking over’ in 2009.
The Gaza Ark initiative is led by international anti-Israel activists, rather than ordinary Palestinians. Gaza’s Ark entails “purchasing a run-down boat from a local fishing family,” says Michael Coleman, a member of Free Gaza Australia and on the Gaza’s Ark steering committee.
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GunstarGreen Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:44:58am |
re: #502 Vicious Babushka
*FACE PALM*
I trust the Founding Fathers on guns. You have a constitutional right to own a muzzle-loading musket in your capacity as a member of a well-regulated militia.
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:45:53am |
re: #502 Vicious Babushka
Who do you trust- Founding Fathers on Guns or Obama’s “Common Sense” Gun Control Plea!
Who do you trust, a Jewish guy writing 4,000 years ago or a consensus of 99.9% of the world’s scientists?
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:46:08am |
re: #504 GunstarGreen
I trust the Founding Fathers on guns. You have a constitutional right to own a muzzle-loading musket in your capacity as a member of a well-regulated militia.
I’m sure carla lykins is referring to all the Founding Fathers’ FAKE QUOTES that are being spammed all over Teh Interwebz.
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Bulworth Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:46:42am |
re: #496 Vicious Babushka
Full-time employees? FTE’s require stuff, like healthcare. Part-time temps much better./
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:47:43am |
re: #507 Bulworth
Full-time employees? FTE’s require stuff, like healthcare. Part-time temps much better./
PART-TIMERS NOT WORTH THE RICE & GRUEL! THEY CAN GET RICE & GRUEL FROM THEIR OTHER 2 JRRBZ!
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Eclectic Cyborg Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:48:45am |
re: #507 Bulworth
Full-time employees? FTE’s require stuff, like healthcare. Part-time temps much better./
I’ve done temp work before. Didn’t like it. It’s ok for some money to get by but bouncing around from job to job to job means you are constantly dealing with new people, new companies and new tasks. There’s zero chance to move up anywhere. I’d really like to know how many “Temps” actually get hired full time, since the apologists are always saying temp work can be a “foot in the door” leading to full time work.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:48:49am |
DERP FAIL *FACE PALM*
@onebigassmistak Obama is causing the internal strife. turning poor against rich, 4 example. many more & shifts blame. #2A #prolife #TGDN— Steelmagnolia (@SteelMagn) March 28, 2013
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Lidane Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:49:25am |
Oh, this should be fun:
First love child of human, Neanderthal believed found nbcnews.to/103lGdR— NBC News (@NBCNews) March 28, 2013
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:51:04am |
re: #507 Bulworth
Full-time employees? FTE’s require stuff, like healthcare. Part-time temps much better./
We are bucking up against a much bigger discussion that cannot be managed in the form of tweets, sound bytes or bullet points: There is an economic aspect of labor - that it is a commodity that is to be traded on a free market, and there is a social component to work.
The latter has been massively overlooked except by certain fundamentalists who believe it is the duty of every good Christian to get out and work as long and hard as they can, except on Sunday morning, regardless of who profits from the labor in the end.
There is also the notion that work is uplifting, dignifying and liberating, but that is totally demolished when the minimum wage is low and there are few chances promotion or self-improvement.
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Eclectic Cyborg Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:51:17am |
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:52:23am |
re: #511 Lidane
Oh, this should be fun:
Marriage is defined as between one cro-magnon male to another cro-magnon female!
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chadu Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:54:47am |
re: #509 Eclectic Cyborg
I’ve done temp work before. Didn’t like it. It’s ok for some money to get by but bouncing around from job to job to job means you are constantly dealing with new people, new companies and new tasks. There’s zero chance to move up anywhere. I’d really like to know how many “Temps” actually get hired full time, since the apologists are always saying temp work can be a “foot in the door” leading to full time work.
QFT.
I temped when I first moved down here to DC, and spent about two years doing that until I did manage to get a foot in the door somewhere. The key is a “long-term” temp job of at least a couple months, and the company’s desire to not just finish a project, but fill a new or open position.
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wrenchwench Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:55:12am |
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Gus Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:55:28am |
NASA Logo on Aluminum twitter.com/Gus_802/status…— Gus (@Gus_802) March 28, 2013
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iossarian Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:01:11am |
re: #517 Gus
Is that the hatch you have to get into before dying of vacuum exposure, so you can disconnect the killer computer?
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lawhawk Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:01:44am |
re: #509 Eclectic Cyborg
Both the Mrs. and I have done temping work. The Mrs. temp position could have led to a permanent hiring. Mine wouldn’t have due to the nature of the work/type of employer.
But in both of our cases, our being employed on a temp basis made it possible to go to a direct hire elsewhere. Firms/businesses are looking for people who are already employed - showing marketable skills, active participation in the marketplace, rather than someone who has been out of work for a period. They’ll poach from a temp hire (even from outside the current employer’s purview) rather than take someone who is unemployed figuring that there’s marketable skills in the temp hire or that there are other reasons the person is unemployed - a method of screening out those who might be good hires.
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Gus Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:02:18am |
re: #519 iossarian
Is that the hatch you have to get into before dying of vacuum exposure, so you can disconnect the killer computer?
That would work too. :D I was just thinking some access panel.
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lawhawk Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:02:46am |
re: #519 iossarian
You have to punch in a sequence of numbers at regular intervals, of course. And if you don’t, a harsh red glare-y eye will scold you in a monotone voice that you’re doing it wrong. /
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Kragar Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:04:30am |
Robertson: Government Is Preparing For Battle ‘Against Us’
Televangelist Pat Robertson is joining the ranks of right-wing commentators who claim that the Department of Homeland Security is stockpiling vehicles and ammunition to use against Americans.
“Long trains full of armored vehicles, personnel carriers with armor, what are they for, the army going into battle against the enemy? They’re used by Homeland Security against us,” Robertson ominously warned. “Imagine what Homeland Security is doing is just awful and we’re going to talk about how much ammunition they’re stockpiling: who are they going to shoot, us?”
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Kragar Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:09:04am |
Steubenville NAACP leader: ‘Alleged victim’ was ‘drunk’ and asking to get raped
The head of the Steubenville chapter of the NAACP is under fire on Thursday after he reportedly told a conservative publication that a 16-year-old rape survivor was “drunk” and willing to have sex.
In an interview with International Business Times, Royal Mayo, who the NAACP lists as the leader of the Steubenville chapter in Ohio, defended the actions of former football players Trent Mays and Ma’lik Richmond after they were convicted of raping the 16-year-old girl.
Calling the girl an “alleged victim,” Mayo suggested that the sex may have been consensual.
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Eclectic Cyborg Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:09:22am |
re: #523 Kragar (Antichrist )
My entire city could be wiped out and it would barely make a blip on the Military’s balance sheet. We’re talking extremely unevenly matched sides here.
Heck, most “Rebellions” could probably be easily enough shut down with a few Apaches and some tear gas.
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Interesting Times Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:09:45am |
re: #473 Jolo5309
Want to get Harper out of the government? Get a leader that is better then him. It sure isn’t Trudeau, it isn’t Mulcair, it isn’t May, it wasn’t Ignatieff or Martin.
You owe Martin a debt of gratitude for not loosening our banking regulations like Harper would have done, which spared us the worst effects of the financial crisis.
And if you consider climate change denial, muzzling scientists, and violating the free speech of artists to be “good leadership”, you ought to feel right at home with the tgdn types.
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Eclectic Cyborg Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:09:52am |
re: #524 Kragar (Antichrist )
Steubenville NAACP leader: ‘Alleged victim’ was ‘drunk’ and asking to get raped
Didn’t we debunk this one earlier?
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:10:24am |
re: #524 Kragar (Antichrist )
Steubenville NAACP leader: ‘Alleged victim’ was ‘drunk’ and asking to get raped
Earlier this story was making the wingnut rounds and appears to have originated at ibtimes.com, a wingnut site. Is that where rawstory found it or do they have a more reliable source?
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Kragar Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:11:00am |
re: #527 Eclectic Cyborg
Didn’t we debunk this one earlier?
Looking further, I see the original story was updated:
This story has been corrected. Royal Mayo is no longer the president of the Steubenville chapter of the NAACP, a post he left in late 2010. He is currently a member of the group’s Ohio executive committee but does not speak on behalf of the NAACP.
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Kragar Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:11:31am |
re: #528 Vicious Babushka
Earlier this story was making the wingnut rounds and appears to have originated at ibtimes.com, a wingnut site. Is that where rawstory found it or do they have a more reliable source?
They were quoting IBTIMES
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:12:14am |
re: #523 Kragar (Antichrist )
I am worried about any scenario that involves a man-made/natural disaster that is big enough to warrant calling out the National Guard or FEMA with armed troops to restore or maintain order.
It could set off a major clusterfuck of head-assploding overreaction in which the government could do nothing right.
Which is the case now in the eyes of many, but nobody has started shooting yet.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:12:35am |
re: #529 Kragar (Antichrist )
Looking further, I see the original story was updated:
This story has been corrected. Royal Mayo is no longer the president of the Steubenville chapter of the NAACP, a post he left in late 2010. He is currently a member of the group’s Ohio executive committee but does not speak on behalf of the NAACP.
He’s still a douche.
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dragonath Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:13:17am |
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:14:46am |
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Charles Johnson Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:15:35am |
re: #534 Gus
Our daily troll is still at it.
Yep. He’s setting records for passive aggressive behavior and cheap shots using dead children.
Getting kinda fed up.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:15:41am |
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:15:44am |
re: #532 NJDhockeyfan
He’s still a douche.
I thought the NAACP were all racists…or do they get a special exemption when they espouse RWNJ talking points?
/
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Gus Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:16:13am |
re: #537 Charles Johnson
Yep. He’s setting records for passive aggressive behavior and cheap shots using dead children.
Getting kinda fed up.
Yep…
Taking full responsibility, a rare trait among the former pro-war voices.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:20:19am |
WTFF? Wingnut Math, how does it work?
POP QUIZ: T or F ~66 Million Leftists voted 4 #Obama in 2012; ~154 Million registered voters did NOT. #Uniteblue #TCOT #TGDN #TLOT #CCOT— William J. Green (@wjgreen_) March 28, 2013
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Kragar Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:22:35am |
re: #541 Vicious Babushka
WTFF? Wingnut Math, how does it work?
F
As of Noon on Friday, with nearly all votes in, Obama assuredly will win the popular vote, leading Romney by a count of 61,173,739 or 50.5% to 58,167,260 or 48.0%. At this point, a few final votes are being counted and then all that’s left is for the results to be officially certified.
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Kragar Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:24:51am |
Beck: ‘System X’ Is Upon Us and ‘it Will Destroy America and the System of Freedom as We Know it’
You know that you are in for a treat when Glenn Beck kicks off his program by warning his audience that what he is about to explain to them “is going to sound like a crazy conspiracy theory” but, he assures them, it most certainly is not.
In the case of last night’s program, Beck went about explaining how the 2009 stimulus legislation was intentionally filled with outrageous spending programs because the “progressives” knew that they would serve as fodder to distract people from the really dangerous things also contained in the legislation, such as money for the states to develop a “longitudinal data system” that will track student performance in public schools.Citing random passages out of a document entitled “Promoting Grit, Tenacity, and Perseverance—Critical Factors for Success in the 21st Century” [PDF] from the Department of Education’s Office of Educational Technology, Beck declared that these data systems will be collecting a cornucopia of sensitive personal information on children and their families while placing monitoring sensors in the chairs and on their skin and filming them with cameras that can detect emotions; they’d even be installing MRI systems in the classroom.
And this is all happening because the corporations have merged with the government in order to implement “System X: a government run by a single party in control of labor, media, education and banking; joined by big business to further their mutual collective goals.”
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Charles Johnson Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:25:22am |
Remember - there’s a new feature: if a Page’s rating goes below -10, it won’t show up in the front page lists.
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Lidane Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:25:46am |
The hardest part of monitoring Glenn Beck is figuring out how to summarize an hour of crazy in one short post &video: bit.ly/XJsKJU— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) March 28, 2013
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wrenchwench Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:29:48am |
re: #544 Charles Johnson
Remember - there’s a new feature: if a Page’s rating goes below -10, it won’t show up in the front page lists.
I missed that! When did it start?
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Eclectic Cyborg Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:32:48am |
re: #543 Kragar (Antichrist )
Beck: ‘System X’ Is Upon Us and ‘it Will Destroy America and the System of Freedom as We Know it’
That actually sounds like a pretty sweet idea for a Dystopian sci-fi film. I even like the title “System X”.
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Interesting Times Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:33:12am |
re: #546 wrenchwench
Remember - there’s a new feature: if a Page’s rating goes below -10, it won’t show up in the front page lists.
I missed that! When did it start?
It’s all a part of the sinister “System X” plot Glenn Beck’s enlightening us about, since X is the Roman numeral for “10”.
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Kragar Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:33:37am |
Rush Limbaugh Expects Gay Marriage Will Eventually Be Legal Nationwide
Rush Limbaugh on Wednesday conceded that gay marriage will eventually become the law of the land in the U.S., agreeing with proponents of same-sex marriage that “the genie’s not getting put back in the bottle” on the issue.
“A lot of people have no personal animus against gay people at all,” Limbaugh said on his radio show, according to a transcript. “It’s instead, you know, a genuine, I don’t know, love/respect for the things they believe define this country as great. They get up every day and they see all this stuff under attack. They see it all under assault. And I think they’re just worried about the survivability of the country. And to which the opponents say, ‘Well, the country’s changing and you better get with it and understand it because this genie’s not getting put back in the bottle.’ And I think that’s right. I don’t care what this court does with this particular ruling, Proposition 8. I think the inertia is clearly moving in the direction that there is going to be gay marriage at some point nationwide.”
Limbaugh added that the political ramifications of same-sex marriage are still unknown, especially for the Republican Party: “I mean, the Republican Party, for example, could be looking at its ultimate demise here, depending on how it deals with this.”
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Kragar Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:34:02am |
re: #548 Eclectic Cyborg
That actually sounds like a pretty sweet idea for a Dystopian sci-fi film. I even like the title “System X”.
Plan 9 from System X.
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iossarian Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:34:40am |
re: #549 Interesting Times
It’s all a part of the sinister “System X” plot Glenn Beck’s enlightening us about, since X is the Roman numeral for “10”.
Also, if you say “x” and then “10” it sounds just like the start of “extinguish” (sort of) which is what libruls want to do to honest god-fearin Americans.
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Bulworth Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:35:13am |
re: #541 Vicious Babushka
WTFF? Wingnut Math, how does it work?
POP QUIZ: T or F ~66 Million Leftists voted 4 #Obama in 2012; ~154 Million registered voters did NOT. #Uniteblue #TCOT #TGDN #TLOT #CCOT
— William J. Green (@wjgreen_) March 28, 2013
This is compelling and conclusive data and information. WHERES THE COVERAGE?!?!?!?!!!!!!!1111111
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Bulworth Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:36:37am |
re: #550 Kragar (Antichrist )
Sounds like Rusty and Meg Gallagher can get together for a collective sadz pretty soon.
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Kragar Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:36:48am |
Lanza fired 155 rounds in 5 minutes. Only way he could have been stopped: a teacher with a gun. openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/…— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) March 28, 2013
Or by making sure people were restricted from owning the kinds of weapons capable of doing that.
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wrenchwench Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:37:10am |
re: #549 Interesting Times
I missed that! When did it start?
It’s all a part of the sinister “System X” plot Glenn Beck’s enlightening us about, since X is the Roman numeral for “10”.
CENSORRRRRSHIIIIIP!!!!1!!
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kirkspencer Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:37:39am |
re: #541 Vicious Babushka
WTFF? Wingnut Math, how does it work?
Mr Green? They also didn’t vote for Romney. And based on a number of polls, you should be just as happy they didn’t vote at all (whether they intended to and were stopped or just didn’t want to vote) as it appears we’d have Democratic control of the house as well in that case.
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Bulworth Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:38:50am |
re: #543 Kragar (Antichrist )
This System X sounds really exciting. Do you all remember when Glenn Beck went absolutely livid when the Bush Administration’s (NSA) illegal eavesdropping was revealed? Yeah, me neither.
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Bulworth Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:39:40am |
re: #555 Kragar (Antichrist )
OK, Fischer is just trolling himself now.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:40:17am |
North Korea ‘burning with hatred’ for US after stealth bomber missions
North Korea claimed its people were “burning with hatred” for the US after Washington confirmed it had flown B-2 stealth bomber “deterrence” missions over South Korea.
Big deal, they’ve been burning with hatred for decades.
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Kragar Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:41:21am |
Boom. Kagan, confirmation, 2009: “There is no federal constitutional right to same-sex marriage.” rightwingnews.com/uncategorized/…— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) March 28, 2013
Technically, there is no federal constitutional right to heterosexual marriage either. The definition of marriage is not covered in the Constitution. There is that pesky bit about equal rights for all citizens though.
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:41:57am |
re: #560 NJDhockeyfan
North Korea ‘burning with hatred’ for US after stealth bomber missions
Big deal, they’ve been burning with hatred for decades.
You can get in trouble for not burning hatefully enough.
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Dr. Matt Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:41:58am |
re: #544 Charles Johnson
Remember - there’s a new feature: if a Page’s rating goes below -10, it won’t show up in the front page lists.
It works. I was the magical number 10 downding. Time to update my CV.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:42:10am |
re: #555 Kragar (Antichrist )
Or by making sure people were restricted from owning the kinds of weapons capable of doing that.
Because we know that Lanza for sure would never think to sneak up behind the teacher and put a bullet in his head before he could get his gun out of the lockbox!
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Lidane Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:42:36am |
Hurr durr…
200 years ago many people couldn’t read BC they had no access to public schools. Now many people can’t read BC they do. #tcot #P2 #TGDN #CVN— Woofula (@Woofula) March 28, 2013
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Bulworth Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:42:52am |
“It’s instead, you know, a genuine, I don’t know, love/respect for the things they believe define this country as great. They get up every day and they see all this stuff under attack. They see it all under assault. And I think they’re just worried about the survivability of the country.
So, the TeabagGOP party, which was willing to sink the U.S. economy through defaulting on the debt, thinks teh gay marriage will put the country’s survival at risk?
Also, too: Teh gay getting married is assaulting and attacking the “things that make this country great.”
Seriously I wonder if Rusty is just trolling himself and his audience now.
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Bulworth Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:43:38am |
re: #565 Lidane
OK, but enough about anti-intellectual wingnuts who hate education.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:44:11am |
re: #562 Sol Berdinowitz
You can get in trouble for not burning hatefully enough.
It’s hard to believe since they’ve been lead by such a happy family.
//
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wrenchwench Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:49:31am |
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CuriousLurker Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:51:19am |
re: #546 wrenchwench
I missed that! When did it start?
Me too. O_o
re: #569 wrenchwench
Oh. Yesterday.
Thanks.
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wrenchwench Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:53:56am |
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Eclectic Cyborg Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:54:46am |
re: #555 Kragar (Antichrist )
Or by making sure people were restricted from owning the kinds of weapons capable of doing that.
Not necessarily. He could have had a heart attack mid massacre or car trouble on the way to the school…
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CuriousLurker Thu, Mar 28, 2013 10:59:27am |
re: #571 wrenchwench
We’re gonna have to work in shifts, so we can cover this place 24 hours!
/
Heh, LGF gulag—it’s a conspiracy to suppress unpopular free speech! The echo chamber strikes again! Blah, blah, blah…
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BeenHereAwhile Thu, Mar 28, 2013 3:23:51pm |
re: #375 Eclectic Cyborg
I’m no expert but I was under the impression that iOS stuff is generally less susceptible to viruses than Android devices.
Can anyone here confirm?
We do technical forensics. The general consensus is that to date, there have been more Android viruses than iPhone. There have been iPhone Safari exploits, but iOS software updates tend to fix such issues. My 2 year old 4S received an alert today for its 4th software upgrade since purchase.
OTOH, our office personnel uses Androids, iPhones and Blackberrys, and one of the Android users has commented that he can no longer upgrade his two year old orphaned Android. But he is going to replace it with another Android.
If you’re concerned about installation of smartphone spyware, off the shelf iPhones are more secure than other off the shelf smartphones in terms that spyware can only be installed on a jailbroke iPhone.
Off the shelf Android and Blackberry are open for spyware installation. Blackberry has a reputation for being secure, but that is only for a Blackberry configured for a BEM network, or one like PBO carries.
If you want an Android, get one. Android users in our office love them.
Whatever you purchase, remember “all smartphones suck in their own way.”
HTH
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wheat-dogghazi Thu, Mar 28, 2013 7:10:31pm |
re: #529 Kragar (Antichrist )
Looking further, I see the original story was updated:
This story has been corrected. Royal Mayo is no longer the president of the Steubenville chapter of the NAACP, a post he left in late 2010. He is currently a member of the group’s Ohio executive committee but does not speak on behalf of the NAACP.
Ha! I knew it. I did my homework. IBTimes didn’t.
Wonder what else they fucked up?
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