Great Neck Synagogue Pulls the Plug on Pamela Geller Hatefest

Geller proceeds to rant about “fascist” tactics
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Anti-Muslim hate group leader Pamela Geller haz a sad tonight, because her speech at the prestigious Great Neck Synagogue has been called off after a chorus of outrage from the community. As is her wont, Ms Geller is now ranting about fascism and sounding exactly like the type of loon whose event gets canceled:

PAMELA GELLER EVENT AT GREAT NECK SYNAGOGUE CANCELLED: “THE SYNAGOGUE IS UNABLE TO BEAR THE BURDEN.”

Due to relentless intimidation, bullying and threats, the Great Neck Synagogue is cancelling my talk at the Great Neck Synagogue on Sunday. It is a very sad day for freedom-loving peoples when fascist tactics trump free speech.

They win. Again.

The synagogue board could not take the extraordinary pressures and issued the following statement that, as the board said, while “these important issues must be discussed, the synagogue is unable to bear the burden.” The event is cancelled.

“As the notoriety and media exposure of the planned program this Sunday have increased, so has the legal liability and potential security exposure of our institution and it’s [sic] member families. In an era of heightened security concerns it is irresponsible to jeopardize the safety of those who call Great Neck Synagogue home, especially our children, even at the risk of diverting attention from a potentially important voice in the ongoing debate. Accordingly, the Great Neck Synagogue Men’s Club will no longer be sponsoring the appearance of Pamela Geller this coming Sunday, and no event will be taking place in our facility.”

Executive Board
Great Neck Synagogue

Notice how she added a ‘[sic]’ to draw attention to a typo in the statement.

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346 comments
1 HappyWarrior  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 5:42:50pm

Fascist tactics? I thought you liked fascism, Pam. Your friends in the EDL think it’s wonderful.

2 Targetpractice  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 5:44:36pm

So, is this the part where she starts screaming that those who attend services at the synagogue but wanted her not to give her speech to be “collaborators”?

3 wrenchwench  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 5:45:31pm

LMF[sic]AO

4 HappyWarrior  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 5:45:36pm

re: #2 Targetpractice

So, is this the part where she starts screaming that those who attend services at the synagogue but wanted her not to give her speech to be “collaborators”?

Kapos I believe is her slur of choice. Because you know thinking Muslims and Jews can coexist peacefully is the same as people who helped the Nazis.//

5 bratwurst  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 5:46:58pm

Any day that hate speech loses out is a very good day indeed.

6 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 5:49:32pm

Just wait until later when the tequila kicks in, and out comes the series of drunken, disjointed tweets. It will be sweet!

RBS

7 Kragar  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 5:53:29pm

CENSORSHIP!11!1!1!
/

8 Charles Johnson  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 5:54:31pm

Creating this kind of discord in the community is exactly what Pamela Geller wants - I’m surprised she hasn’t gone raving batshit ballistic yet. Her usual MO is to post all the phone numbers and email addresses of everyone who works for the synagogue, and call their leaders “kapos.”

9 Targetpractice  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 5:56:20pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

Creating this kind of discord in the community is exactly what Pamela Geller wants - I’m surprised she hasn’t gone raving batshit ballistic yet. Her usual MO is to post all the phone numbers and email addresses of everyone who works for the synagogue, and call their leaders “kapos.”

Hateful, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life.

10 CuriousLurker  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 5:58:33pm

Hiya, everyone. Excuse me while I…

11 Locker  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 6:05:28pm

That picture is soooo scary.

12 Skip Intro  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 6:07:16pm

re: #11 Locker

That picture is soooo scary.

Pretty hard to find a pic of Geller that isn’t.

13 lawhawk  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 6:08:49pm

For someone like Geller who cozies up to the EDL and excuses the Vlaams Belang (VB) and their tactics as actual fascists, to turn around and claim that fascists are busy denying her the right to spread her propaganda is, in a word, ironic.

I bet that she ends up posting names, numbers, and other personal details of the people who pulled the plug on her. She simply wont be able to help herself.

Her hatred knows no end or bounds. It’s her marketplace. It’s why she’s cozied up to VB and EDL in the past, and why she continues to demonize all Muslims and warns of deep conspiracies to impose sharia (among others).

14 Charles Johnson  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 6:11:02pm

re: #11 Locker

That picture is soooo scary.

PAMELA GELLER HATES YOU.

15 Kragar  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 6:11:27pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

Creating this kind of discord in the community is exactly what Pamela Geller wants - I’m surprised she hasn’t gone raving batshit ballistic yet. Her usual MO is to post all the phone numbers and email addresses of everyone who works for the synagogue, and call their leaders “kapos.”

Then she can extort some kind of settlement from them and call it a victory.

16 HappyWarrior  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 6:14:07pm

re: #13 lawhawk

For someone like Geller who cozies up to the EDL and excuses the Vlaams Belang (VB) and their tactics as actual fascists, to turn around and claim that fascists are busy denying her the right to spread her propaganda is, in a word, ironic.

I bet that she ends up posting names, numbers, and other personal details of the people who pulled the plug on her. She simply wont be able to help herself.

Her hatred knows no end or bounds. It’s her marketplace. It’s why she’s cozied up to VB and EDL in the past, and why she continues to demonize all Muslims and warns of deep conspiracies to impose sharia (among others).

No kidding. Really for someone who’s made her reputation by palling around with actual fascists. For Pamela Geller to complain about fascist tactics is pathetic.

17 CuriousLurker  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 6:14:23pm

It’s too quiet in here. Is it some kind of weird holiday or something? //

Okay, how about a Mullah Nasruddin story in honor of the cancellation?

Nasruddin’s Mom

Three sons left home, went out on their own and prospered. Getting back together, they discussed the gifts they were able to give their elderly mother:

The first said, “I built a big house for our mother.”

The second said, “I sent her a camel with a driver.”

The third smiled and said, “I’ve got you both beat. You remember how Mom enjoyed reading the Divan-e Hafez? And you know she can’t see very well. So I sent her a remarkable parrot that recites the entire Divan. It took elders of the town 19 years to teach him. He’s one of a kind. Mama just has to name the Ghazal number, and the parrot recites it.”

Soon thereafter, mom sent out her letters of thanks:

“Ali,” she wrote one son, “The house you built is so huge. I live in only one room, but I have to clean the whole house.

“Reza,” she wrote to another, “I am too old to travel. I stay most of the time at home, so I rarely use the camel. And the driver is so rude!”

“My Dearest Nasruddin,” she wrote to her third son, “You have the good sense to know what your mother likes. The chicken was delicious.”

18 Blue Point  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 6:15:23pm

Maybe they saw some pictures of her “friends”? She’s a stone cold viper. Bestest Buddies! Stink all over the place and that is as good as it gets. From there it’s a short trip to Seen Kyle?

19 PhillyPretzel  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 6:17:02pm

re: #17 CuriousLurker

lol especially the “chicken.”

20 HappyWarrior  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 6:19:28pm

re: #18 Blue Point

Maybe they saw some pictures of her “friends”? She’s a stone cold viper. Bestest Buddies! Stink all over the place and that is as good as it gets. From there it’s a short trip to Seen Kyle?

Lovely.

21 Charles Johnson  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 6:20:34pm

I’m pretty sure Pamela Geller really does hate me, a lot.

/badge of honor

22 CuriousLurker  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 6:20:47pm
The Soup of the Soup

A kinsman came to see the Mullah from somewhere deep in the country, bringing a duck as a gift. Delighted, Nasruddin had the bird cooked and shared it with his guest. Presently, however, one countryman after another started to call, each one “the friend of the friend of the man who brought you the duck.” No further presents were forthcoming.

At length the Mullah was exasperated. One day yet another stranger appeared. “I am the friend of the friend of the friend of the relative who brought you the duck.”

He sat down, like all the rest, expecting a meal. Nasruddin handed him a bowl of water.

“What is this?” he asked.

“That is the soup of the soup of the duck which was brought by my relative.”

23 CuriousLurker  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 6:21:21pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

I’m pretty sure Pamela Geller really does hate me, a lot.

/badge of honor

Heh, nothing could recommend you more highly.

24 HappyWarrior  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 6:23:14pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

I’m pretty sure Pamela Geller really does hate me, a lot.

/badge of honor

Sure you’re familiar with the saying that you can tell a lot about a man by who his enemies are. Simply put, better that you’re despised by her than loved by her.

25 ProBosniaLiberal  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 6:24:16pm

Hilarious to see Pam whining so much on this.

Also, ironic for her to accuse us of Fascism, considering she is the demented person who attacked those killed at Utoya.

I have to imagine that someone as vicious as she is has chemical help. Though, to be fair, wasn’t there some legal hinkiness with her and her no-deceased husband regarding a car dealership.?

26 AlexRogan  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 6:26:39pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

I’m pretty sure Pamela Geller really does hate me, a lot.

/badge of honor

Let it be a long and healthy hate.

/Benjamin Franklin “Hawkeye” Pierce

27 Targetpractice  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 6:32:16pm

OT:

Club For Growth Questions GOP Rep. For Attacking Obama On Social Security Cuts

The conservative advocacy group Club for Growth is calling on Rep. Greg Walden (R-OR) to answer for his comments Wednesday, in which he attacked President Barack Obama for proposing cuts to entitlements — a goal ordinarily sought by a majority of the Republican party.

“Greg Walden doesn’t seriously oppose even the most modest of reforms to social security, right?” said Club for Growth President Chris Chocola in a statement. “With nearly $100 trillion in unfunded liabilities, the last thing Republicans should attack the Democrats for is for making the most minor reforms to our entitlement programs. If anything, President Obama nibbles around the edges of entitlement reform and doesn’t do anything to put entitlements on a permanently sustainable path.

“Greg Walden ought to think about clarifying his remarks on chained CPI, and think about clarifying soon. I’m sure his constituents would like to know his opinion,” he added.

It’s like goldy or bronzy, only it’s made of iron.

28 Stanley Sea  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 6:41:46pm

re: #10 CuriousLurker

Hiya, everyone. Excuse me while I…

Lol Elaine.

29 majii  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 6:43:25pm

Geller seems to think that when anyone opposes her, it’s fascism. I find it fascinating that she speaks of having her freedom of speech stifled just because her detractors have made their thoughts about her known to the group that invited her to GNS. I always get a huge kick out of seeing people like Geller who seem to think that freedom of speech exists only for them. Extreme authoritarianism is more closely related to fascism than it is to democracy, and we know that Geller believes in extreme authoritarianism. From her POV, we should all just sit down, STFU, and allow her to have her way. I expect her to begin to unravel pretty soon. CPAC put her in a room away from the main venue last month, and now this happens. This is the second time in less than a month that she’s received the message that folks don’t want to be bothered by whatever it is that she has to say.

30 dragonath  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 6:50:54pm

At this rate, the 2011 Marlins look like they’ll be the next 1899 Cleveland Spiders.

31 HappyWarrior  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 6:52:57pm

re: #30 dragonath

At this rate, the 2011 Marlins look like they’ll be the next 1899 Cleveland Spiders.

Jeffrey Loria is the worst owner in all of pro sports.

32 Stanley Sea  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 6:53:07pm

OT. Cell phone companies own us.

33 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 6:56:47pm

Any empty seats?

34 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:03:44pm

You can see the hate oozing out of Geller in that picture.

36 bratwurst  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:06:59pm

Anyone want to read a REALLY dumb tweet?

37 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:08:38pm

re: #36 bratwurst

Anyone want to read a REALLY dumb tweet?

I bet he feels no shame at all in putting out such obvious panic mongering bullshit.

38 HappyWarrior  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:09:57pm

re: #36 bratwurst

Anyone want to read a REALLY dumb tweet?

Paranoid much Erick?

39 HappyWarrior  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:10:17pm

re: #37 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

I bet he feels no shame at all in putting out such obvious panic mongering bullshit.

It’s what he lives for. Sad really.

40 Decatur Deb  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:12:14pm

re: #36 bratwurst

Anyone want to read a REALLY dumb tweet?

What Would Jesus Pack?

41 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:12:34pm

As usual, Pamz tries to portray herself as “Teh VICTIM” and whine that this is a “Free Speech” issue.

This has NOTHING whatever to do with “Free Speech.”

“Free Speech” does not mean anyone owes you a venue.

42 Stanley Sea  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:13:24pm

re: #36 bratwurst

Anyone want to read a REALLY dumb tweet?

The history books will show the media driven fear. That was done for profit, the goal. The crazies they cultivated? Collateral damage.

43 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:17:08pm

re: #27 Targetpractice

OT:

Club For Growth Questions GOP Rep. For Attacking Obama On Social Security Cuts

It’s like goldy or bronzy, only it’s made of iron.

Like Grover Norquist, the Club for Growth is getting tired of the worst of the Obama-hate. In Norquist’s case it’s over immigration reform, which he has long supported:

Grover Norquist is known as an anti-tax crusader, but in the coming weeks he will be just as much a pro-immigration crusader, combatting what he calls the “bitter enders” who oppose comprehensive immigration reform.

Norquist says that he’s trying to counteract the effect of “a handful of radio talk-show hosts who talk loudly.”

“The bitter-enders who are still responding to radio talk-show hosts from eight years ago haven’t noticed that the world has shifted from underneath them,” he says. “The people who need cover are the guys who are still voting like they were Pat Buchanan.”

44 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:21:57pm

re: #43 Dark_Falcon

Like Grover Norquist, the Club for Growth is getting tired of the worst of the Obama-hate. In Norquist’s case it’s over immigration reform, which he has long supported:

A nice box and some gift wrap.

What’s inside the box?

45 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:23:07pm

TEH BUTTHURT IT HURTZ

46 Flavia  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:42:20pm

re: #17 CuriousLurker

“My Dearest Nasruddin,” she wrote to her third son, “You have the good sense to know what your mother likes. The chicken was delicious.”

I could see where this was going to end up; there’s one that was originally told by Jewish comedians, but has been passed around by everyone else about a parrot that “spoke five languages” & the mother says - like in this story - “It was delicious!”

But it doesn’t end there!

The son remonstrates w/his mother: “How could you eat that bird? It cost thousands of dollars! It spoke 5 languages!”

Unperturbed, the mother retorts, “Well, why didn’t it say something?”

Ba-DUMP-dum!

47 Single-handed sailor  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:42:40pm

re: #45 Vicious Babushka

TEH BUTTHURT IT HURTZ

Great, she’s gonna be drunk-dialing and tweeting about it all night long.

48 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:44:39pm

Uh oh…

49 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:45:35pm

re: #48 NJDhockeyfan

Uh oh…

Yes, but enough about Kim Jong Un’s penis.

/rimshot

50 HoosierHoops  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:45:52pm

re: #36 bratwurst

Anyone want to read a REALLY dumb tweet?

What the fuck is the matter with the right? Never in our history before today or in the future, does anybody care if you should or not believe in Jesus to own a damn gun.
I’m speechless with the stupidity of the right these days.

51 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:46:01pm

re: #44 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

A nice box and some gift wrap.

What’s inside the box?

Open it and find out…

52 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:48:01pm

re: #50 HoosierHoops

What the fuck is the matter with the right? Never in our history before today or in the future, does anybody care if you should or not believe in Jesus to own a damn gun.
I’m speechless with the stupidity of the right these days.

Actually Hoops, that comment is an attack on a conservative senator, Pat Toomey, who is planning not to fillibuster the background checks bill. For this he is being attacked for “betrayal” by the usual members of the Permanent Opposition.

53 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:49:43pm

re: #49 Dark_Falcon

Yes, but enough about Kim Jong Un’s penis.

/rimshot

He must have gotten his new porn movie in the mail.

54 ProBosniaLiberal  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:52:28pm

re: #49 Dark_Falcon

I COULD post a picture as a snarky comment.

But that would be immature.

55 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:55:49pm

re: #36 bratwurst

Anyone want to read a REALLY dumb tweet?

Eric? Believing in a resurrected Jesus does not make you crazy. Believing that said resurrected Jesus tells you to hate and kill His enemies does.

56 CuriousLurker  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:58:40pm

re: #46 Flavia

I could see where this was going to end up; there’s one that was originally told by Jewish comedians, but has been passed around by everyone else about a parrot that “spoke five languages” & the mother says - like in this story - “It was delicious!”

But it doesn’t end there!

The son remonstrates w/his mother: “How could you eat that bird? It cost thousands of dollars! It spoke 5 languages!”

Unperturbed, the mother retorts, “Well, why didn’t it say something?”

Ba-DUMP-dum!

LOL. it must be one of those universal jokes that exists in almost every culture in one form or another, but whose origins are lost in the mists of time. Same with stuff like Romeo & Juliet, Cinderella, etc.

Speaking of the mists of time, I just had a weird thought: I wonder what cavemen joked about? I have no idea if Neanderthals had language skills, but if they did, what would have made them laugh? And I wonder what kind of practical jokes they played on each other?

Heh, okay, dialing back the overactive imagination and going back into lurk mode…

57 CuriousLurker  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 8:04:00pm

Oh, before I go: Some of you might be interested in this full-length NatGeo documentary about rage/violence, theories of nature vs. nurture, and the “warrior gene”. I watched it last night and it was pretty interesting.

58 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 8:04:21pm

Everyone is on edge out there…

Yokohama misfires tweet about North Korea missile launch

The city of Yokohama in Japan has had to offer up some quick apologies to its nearly 42,000 followers for erroneously tweeting that North Korea had launched a missile at its homeland.

Earlier today, the Crisis Management Office Affairs Bureau for Yokohama tweeted that North Korea had launched a missile at Japan. The tweet stayed up for 20 minutes before being taken down and replaced with an apology from the city, saying that its tweet was sent out in error.

Oops!

59 Political Atheist  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 8:07:59pm

re: #58 NJDhockeyfan

They were mistweeted?

60 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 8:08:35pm

The Drama Queen says what?

Not shy, Ted Nugent doubles down on ‘dead or in jail’ statement (AUDIO)

NUGENT: Sure. Well that’s why. I mean come on. And I know that the moderates, by the way if you are a moderate we’d like to thank you for standing up for nothing. If you’re a moderate I suppose you would have been playing poker while Davy Crockett was on the wall of the Alamo. It’s time to take a side.

That’s why I said almost a year ago, Cam, and people recoiled in horror. And I know it caught a lot of my friends off guard, when I said if this America-hater, if this freedom-hater, if this enemy of America becomes the president again I’ll either be dead or in jail. And remember when I was on the stage with you and some people chuckled?

(CAM) EDWARDS: Yup.

NUGENT: So we find humor in a disastrous statement from a guy who is on the frontlines, who has been in the frontlines of the war against gun ownership for at least forty-plus years. So it’s funny that I might be dead or in jail. And that is so indicative of how callous and disconnected some are, because you are talking about arbitrary, punitive, capricious draconian felonies.

61 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 8:09:55pm

re: #59 Political Atheist

They were mistweeted?

It’s like the emergency broadcast system for twitter but that tweet wasn’t supposed to go out.

62 Political Atheist  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 8:12:19pm

re: #61 NJDhockeyfan

Lots of people are mistweeted on twitter.
(Just punning)

63 Decatur Deb  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 8:13:34pm

re: #56 CuriousLurker

LOL. it must be one of those universal jokes that exists in almost every culture in one form or another, but whose origins are lost in the mists of time. Same with stuff like Romeo & Juliet, Cinderella, etc.

Speaking of the mists of time, I just had a weird thought: I wonder what cavemen joked about? I have no idea if Neanderthals had language skills, but if they did, what would have made them laugh? And I wonder what kind of practical jokes they played on each other?

Heh, okay, dialing back the overactive imagination and going back into lurk mode…

They had flutes, so they undoubtedly had flautist jokes. Flautist jokes write themselves:

Q: What’s the difference between an onion and a flute?
A: Nobody cries when you chop up a flute

Neanderthal flute
hourgold.tumblr.com

64 Stanley Sea  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 8:15:59pm

re: #60 Dark_Falcon

The Drama Queen says what?

Not shy, Ted Nugent doubles down on ‘dead or in jail’ statement (AUDIO)

Huh Ted? Put up or shut up. Loser making bank with his new RWNJ persona.

65 CuriousLurker  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 8:16:27pm

re: #63 Decatur Deb

They had flutes, so they undoubtedly had flautist jokes jokes. Flautist jokes write themselves:

Q: What’s the difference between an onion and a flute?
A: Nobody cries when you chop up a flute

Neanderthal flute
hourgold.tumblr.com

LOL! Interesting about the flute. I had no idea there was a musical instrument that old.

66 kirkspencer  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 8:16:54pm

re: #63 Decatur Deb

They had flutes, so they undoubtedly had flautist jokes jokes. Flautist jokes write themselves:

Q: What’s the difference between an onion and a flute?
A: Nobody cries when you chop up a flute

Neanderthal flute
hourgold.tumblr.com

Undoubtedly they also had the running joke. “I don’t have to outrun the tiger, I just have to outrun you.”

67 CuriousLurker  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 8:18:25pm

re: #60 Dark_Falcon

The Drama Queen says what?

Not shy, Ted Nugent doubles down on ‘dead or in jail’ statement (AUDIO)

Well, since he seems to hate moderates, then he must be a big fan of the radical jihadi types. What an ass.

68 calochortus  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 8:19:22pm

re: #38 HappyWarrior

Paranoid much Erick?

Eh, there are a lot of people over there worrying that a doctor,

practically any doctor

can put your name on the list of people who can’t own guns and you will have no recourse. It will be like the Soviet gulags and

anyone who doesn’t agree with the Glorious Leader will be declared mentally ill!!!!

Their rights and gunz will be forfeit.

69 kirkspencer  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 8:21:18pm

re: #68 calochortus

Eh, there are a lot of people over there worrying that a doctor,

can put your name on the list of people who can’t own guns and you will have no recourse. It will be like the Soviet gulags and

Their rights and gunz will be forfeit.

Yep. And some worry (some true, others fauxtrage) that the list of medical issues will be publicly readable, sidestepping HIPAA.

70 Mich-again  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 8:22:55pm

re: #60 Dark_Falcon

arbitrary, punitive, capricious draconian felonies.

Mr. Poopy Pants must have gotten a thesaurus for his birthday!

71 Decatur Deb  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 8:23:10pm

re: #66 kirkspencer

Undoubtedly they also had the running joke. “I don’t have to outrun the tiger, I just have to outrun you.”


“Every time I eat a Giant Three-toed Sloth, I want to nap for a week”

—Try the dinotherium, it’s great.

72 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 8:25:21pm

re: #70 Mich-again

Mr. Poopy Pants must have gotten a thesaurus for his birthday!

He needed new hysterical turns of phrase to keep his follower’s outrage at ELEVENTY!!1. It’s rather sad, really.

73 Stanley Sea  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 8:25:36pm

Nighty. See ya tomorrow!

74 calochortus  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 8:26:19pm

re: #69 kirkspencer

Yep. And some worry (some true, others fauxtrage) that the list of medical issues will be publicly readable, sidestepping HIPAA.

Of course, if we had actual universal healthcare HIPAA wouldn’t be quite as important as it is. You couldn’t be denied health insurance…

75 Mich-again  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 8:31:09pm

re: #72 Dark_Falcon

He needed new hysterical turns of phrase to keep his follower’s outrage at ELEVENTY!!1. It’s rather sad, really.

Yeah the 11ty syndrome is kind of like how a body builds resistance to alcohol. Over time you have to drink more to get the same buzz. Ted is now up to the equivalent of a half gallon of vodka for breakfast.

76 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 8:32:07pm

re: #74 calochortus

Of course, if we had actual universal healthcare HIPAA wouldn’t be quite as important as it is. You couldn’t be denied health insurance…

It would still be relevant, though. Mental illness retains a pretty serious social stigma, and in addition someone known to have had mental health problems in the past might find their job in jeopardy if their boss got wind of it.

77 kirkspencer  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 8:32:25pm

re: #74 calochortus

Of course, if we had actual universal healthcare HIPAA wouldn’t be quite as important as it is. You couldn’t be denied health insurance…

Actually, the deal about HIPAA isn’t (for most people) about being denied healthcare. It’s about your employer or associates no longer wanting you around because of your medical condition(s). The easy disease to point to is HIV/AIDS, but there are a bunch of others than can cause almost as much hysteria when people find out you had or have them. Heck, consider the reaction some people would have if they discovered someone had a history of STDs.

78 calochortus  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 8:35:18pm

re: #76 Dark_Falcon

re: #77 kirkspencer

I know. That’s why I said it wouldn’t be quite as important. I was just whining…

79 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 8:36:32pm

re: #71 Decatur Deb


“Every time I eat a Giant Three-toed Sloth, I want to nap for a week”

—Try the dinotherium, it’s great.

“I’ll be in this cave all week. Try the marmot with juniper berries and tip your hunter.”

80 aagcobb  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 8:38:20pm

Ultimate cuteness

t.now.msn.com

81 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 8:39:45pm

night all. Thunderstorm came through and cooled things off a little bit.

Also have a giant weather vane across the street as the construction crane gimbals in the gusts.

82 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 8:42:00pm
Notice how she added a ‘[sic]’ to draw attention to a typo in the statement.

You could have added a ‘[sic]’ yourself after “freedom-loving peoples”.

83 Gus  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 8:43:41pm
84 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 9:07:25pm

re: #83 Gus

Okie From Muskogee - Merle Haggard

[Embedded content]

Nice going, Gus. Your country music just broke the thread.

/

85 Gus  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 9:08:06pm

Norwegian Breakaway Float Out / Undocking / Ausdocken

1,081 feet. Home ported in NYC. Made in Germany. One big ass mother fucking ship.

86 Gus  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 9:10:47pm
87 Gus  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 9:11:55pm

Build. I was thinking the other night. Thank goodness for planes, trains, and automobiles. And ships.

88 Gus  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 9:16:41pm

re: #84 Dark_Falcon

Nice going, Gus. Your country music just broke the thread.

/

I love that song. It’s about that time anyway. The LNDTs are long gone.

89 chadu  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 9:22:19pm

What a hateful, ugly person.

90 chadu  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 9:26:10pm

re: #36 bratwurst

91 chadu  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 9:29:34pm

re: #60 Dark_Falcon

Nugent is a waste of freaking skin.

(spits)

92 Mich-again  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 9:29:38pm

re: #89 chadu

What a hateful, ugly person.

Old saying.. Beauty is only skin deep, but ugly goes down to the bone. Pam Gellar is a good example.

93 Gus  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 9:30:04pm

“Until the millennium arrives and countries cease trying to enslave others, it will be necessary to accept one’s responsibilities and be willing to make sacrifices for one’s country - as my comrades did. As the troops used to say, “If the country is good enough to live in, it’s good enough to fight for.” With privilege goes responsibility.”
― Eugene B. Sledge

94 Mich-again  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 9:31:53pm

re: #91 chadu

Nugent is a waste of freaking skin.

(spits)

He should write into his will to donate his brain to science after he dies so maybe some scientist can figure out what the fuck went haywire and turned him into such a raving idiot.

95 chadu  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 9:31:57pm

I feel the need to post some positive country.

Paging.

96 Gus  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 9:33:18pm

re: #95 chadu

I feel the need to post some positive country.

Paging.

97 Mich-again  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 9:36:21pm

re: #95 chadu

I feel the need to post some positive country.

Paging.

How bout some Hank..

98 Gus  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 9:38:16pm
99 Gus  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 9:41:44pm

...

100 engineer cat  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 9:45:58pm

o.t. what is on my mind right now:

“non angli sed angeli”

some people are beautiful like that

101 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 9:51:59pm

Greetings from cold, snowy Estes Park Colorado. My wife and I had a long journey here today from Vegas but we made it safely to our lodge here on Fall River.

On our last day in Nevada we visited Hoover Dam. It was very powerful to see the “bathtub ring” in Lake Mead from water depletion. The impacts of climate change become a lot more real when something like that is spread out in front of you. It concerns me greatly because Lake Mead isn’t something that will become a problem in say, 50-75 years but something that IS a problem now and may very well become a critical problem in less than FIVE YEARS.

102 freetoken  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 9:55:58pm

re: #101 Eclectic Cyborg

The record high rain a few years ago bought 3 years for the demise of the LV water supply, and just last month the flushing of extra water down from the upstream reservoir (nominally for the purpose of moving sediments to create some new sand bars) bought a few months too… but this year the rain has been missing here in SoCal and most likely the Colorado River basin too.

It’s a well known long term problem that people choose to ignore because… well, we just don’t like to look at these things.

103 Gus  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 9:57:27pm

...

104 freetoken  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 9:57:47pm

Same fact… two headlines:


‘Dancing With the Stars’: Still has ratings power

Ratings: No One’s Ready for Love; NCIS, Dancing Hit Season Lows

The “truth” can be packaged in just about any fashion one wishes.

105 Gus  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 9:58:03pm

...

106 chadu  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 10:02:57pm

re: #96 Gus

Dude, while that’s cool, that’s not country.

It’s just Souza (actually, Zimmerman/Miles, but whatevs).

The song that restores my faith in humanity?

Ok, actually, no. Joke.

This one, for reals:

That song clutches my heart in a way I want to describe.

107 Gus  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 10:04:14pm

...

108 chadu  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 10:05:30pm

re: #107 Gus

Yeah, I sort of expect that response at the new LGF. Thanks expert.

Not an expert, just a tyro with Wikipedia at hand. ;)

109 Gus  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 10:05:37pm

...

110 chadu  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 10:08:17pm
111 Gus  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 10:09:10pm

re: #110 chadu

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Stupid actors with fake beards.

112 Gus  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 10:09:24pm

I’m out. This place is getting really old.

113 chadu  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 10:11:11pm

re: #112 Gus

Hm. Getting grumpy.

How did I piss on your shoes?

114 freetoken  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 10:14:14pm

Back when country was country… this wasn’t:

115 chadu  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 10:23:28pm

re: #114 freetoken

I’m guessing that was either 1938 or 1952. I tend towards the latter. (Outside chance it’s 1931, but the sound quality is too good.)

NOT WIKIPEDIA-ING.

116 freetoken  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 10:25:12pm

re: #115 chadu

1949

117 chadu  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 10:27:19pm

re: #116 freetoken

Oh, snap!

You said that, and I locked into improved sound quality and 30s/40s performance style, and said, “yeah, that makes sense!”

COOL.

Thank you!

118 Lidane  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 10:38:25pm

WTF. There’s no shortage of free porn online, dude:

119 freetoken  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 11:00:31pm

Not quite 1938…

1936:

120 Kragar  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 11:30:40pm

re: #119 freetoken

Not quite 1938…

1936:

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1947

121 Kragar  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 11:38:30pm

Alberta Hunter - You Can’t Tell The Difference After Dark - 1935

122 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 11:44:27pm

re: #60 Dark_Falcon

The Drama Queen says what?

Not shy, Ted Nugent doubles down on ‘dead or in jail’ statement (AUDIO)

I used to have a bit of begrudging respect for Nugent as a rugged, idiosyncratic individualist who at least seemed true to his principles.

But he has gone full off the rails lately. And yes, it is funny to hear him whine about how he is going to be persecuted and then he is not. But no worry, Obama still has nearly six months to have him killed or put in jail.

/

123 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Apr 10, 2013 11:50:53pm

re: #56 CuriousLurker

Speaking of the mists of time, I just had a weird thought: I wonder what cavemen joked about?

Who that blonde female I see you with last night?
-That not female, that ground sloth!

Homonid come to me and say “I have not had bite for three days”, so I gave him food.

I go to medicine man and say “It hurt when I do this!” (raises arm)
Medicine man say “Put dried yak bladder under armpit during new moon!”

124 freetoken  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 1:20:20am

Addressing Rob Zombie’s complaint:

125 Tigger2  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 1:46:19am

re: #60 Dark_Falcon

The Drama Queen says what?

Not shy, Ted Nugent doubles down on ‘dead or in jail’ statement (AUDIO)

To bad Nugent wasn’t this brave during the Nam war.

126 abolitionist  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 1:53:02am

re: #57 CuriousLurker

Oh, before I go: Some of you might be interested in this full-length NatGeo documentary about rage/violence, theories of nature vs. nurture, and the “warrior gene”. I watched it last night and it was pretty interesting.

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Interesting that women have two of the gene that’s related to bringing down high levels of seratonin.

Presently, civilization is now at a point where human evolution can be influnced significantly by means other than incarceration, war, violence, etc.

By way of thanks, a short clip from one the most fascinating sci-fi series I’ve ever seen. This clip is nominally about human evolution.
FRINGE 5x11 Season 5 Episode 11 Micheal Is September’s Son Scene 6
(Lizards at 2:22)

Another: Fringe 5.13 Scene - Destiny Can Be Changed

127 freetoken  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 2:05:38am

re: #57 CuriousLurker

Oh, before I go: Some of you might be interested in this full-length NatGeo documentary about rage/violence, theories of nature vs. nurture, and the “warrior gene”. I watched it last night and it was pretty interesting.

[Video]

Many stories on “genes” tend to overstate the case for this or that cause or effect.

One thing to also remember is that gene deletions can lead to positive results, as far as the breeding population is concerned. Indeed, it’s not clear to me why heightened violence is necessarily a negative trait, just from the biological perspective.

As a species we’ve created culture, a form of social existence far more complicated than even what other social species exhibit. It’s a fascinating thing, culture, as it is transmitted from generation to generation and group to group, and changes our species, though it is not (to the best of our knowledge) encoded in DNA.

In our society we view the individual who is more prone to violence as “bad”, but that is due to our own decision on how we want to live, an expression of culture. But strictly from the DNA’s perspective, promulgation of the species might be heightened by a more aggressive male.

128 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 2:12:36am

re: #125 Tigger2

To bad Nugent wasn’t this brave during the Nam war.

I halfway expect him to pull some stunt to get himself arrested over First or Second Amenment issues just to prove that he was right.

Then he can just shit his pants for a week before the trial and plead diminished (magazine) capacity.

129 freetoken  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 2:32:51am

This one too goes out to Rob Zombie:

130 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 3:24:53am

Poor Pamela. And I hear she gives such Great Neck, too…

131 freetoken  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 3:26:33am
132 BongCrodny  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 3:37:48am

re: #126 abolitionist

Interesting that women have two of the gene that’s related to bringing down high levels of seratonin.

Presently, civilization is now at a point where human evolution can be influnced significantly by means other than incarceration, war, violence, etc.

By way of thanks, a short clip from one the most fascinating sci-fi series I’ve ever seen. This clip is nominally about human evolution.
FRINGE 5x11 Season 5 Episode 11 Micheal Is September’s Son Scene 6
(Lizards at 2:22)

Another: Fringe 5.13 Scene - Destiny Can Be Changed

I love Fringe. In the history of TV, there’s maybe only a half-dozen science-fiction themed series I’d rank above it, and it baffles me to this day why people gave up on it.

For anyone interested, Netflix now has seasons 1-4 available for streaming.

133 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 3:43:33am

re: #132 BongCrodny

I love Fringe. In the history of TV, there’s maybe only a half-dozen science-fiction themed series I’d rank above it, and it baffles me to this day why people gave up on it.

For anyone interested, Netflix now has seasons 1-4 available for streaming.

From a personal perspective, it suffered from the same problem that a lot of episodic series do when they start tackling story arcs, namely if you didn’t watch every episode, you missed a piece of the puzzle. X-Files suffered the same problem in its later seasons.

134 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 3:48:15am

And here’s one for Jimmah. If he shows up after I leave will someone please link to this comment so he doesn’t miss it? Thanks.

The Tactical Kilt Returns!

Last week, Scruffy Wallace of the Dropkick Murphys threw down the kilt. That’ll paint a picture you won’t soon forget. Wallace directly challenged 5.11 Tactical’s CEO Tom Davin, putting him in the spotlight for discontinuing the most tactical, breathable piece of kit ever made, at least in the dresses for men category.

Not only did Wallace demand that 5.11 bring back the Tactical Kilt, but that they also use it as a fundraiser for charity, including Wallace’s own We Salute You Veterans, an organization that works to get homeless vets off the streets.

Davin has accepted the challenge, and he’s taking things up a notch, too.

“I met with the product team — we’ve been swingin’ some kettle bells because that’s what we do here at 5.11 Tactical — but we will bring back the tactical kilt!

“We’re gonna give you the multiple colors … I even talked to the people at Realtree. We’re gonna do a Realtree Tactical Duty Kilt for the hunters out there. We’re gonna have a lot of fun with this.

135 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 3:58:55am

re: #134 Dark_Falcon

And here’s one for Jimmah. If he shows up after I leave will someone please link to this comment so he doesn’t miss it? Thanks.

The Tactical Kilt Returns!

The original “Tactical Kilt” was the plaid: nine square yards of fabric, wrapped about the waist and thrown over the shoulder. Not only was it comfortable to wear, it also doubled as a shelter: a Highlander could drape one end over a branch, roll up in the rest and sleep in any weather…

136 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 4:25:16am

Pam still Tweeting Teh Butthurt

137 Jimmah  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 4:25:40am

re: #134 Dark_Falcon

And here’s one for Jimmah. If he shows up after I leave will someone please link to this comment so he doesn’t miss it? Thanks.

The Tactical Kilt Returns!

Heh. I made my millions from the “Festival Kilt” - a stealth device which allows the wearer to attend music festivals such as Glastonbury without having to get in line to use the horrible toilets.

FREEDOM!!!

138 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 4:32:41am

re: #137 Jimmah

Heh. I made my millions from the “Festival Kilt” - a stealth device which allows the wearer to attend music festivals such as Glastonbury without having to get in line to use the horrible toilets.

FREEDOM!!!

Glad it worked for you. [smiles]

BBT

139 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 4:53:18am

Carnival offers cruise for $38/night.

Bring your own plunger.

140 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 5:13:50am

re: #134 Dark_Falcon

Saw those were back. Wish I had the money - be a good way to carry my .45 Colt 625 as a CCW!

O_o

141 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 5:29:09am

Got a live wingnut on the line, splitting hairs over what “well regulated” really means.

142 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 5:31:07am

re: #141 Vicious Babushka

Got a live wingnut on the line, splitting hairs over what “well regulated” really means.

What’s his bit? That there’s too many regulations or that only the states can regulate them?

143 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 5:34:27am

re: #142 Targetpractice

What’s his bit? That there’s too many regulations or that only the states can regulate them?





144 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 5:35:58am

So “well regulated” is just a historical artifact, but the real intent of the Constitution is to give everyone AZ MUCH GUNZ AS THEY ALL WANTZ!!11!!!

145 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 5:39:18am
146 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 5:40:29am

re: #144 Vicious Babushka

So “well regulated” is just a historical artifact, but the real intent of the Constitution is to give everyone AZ MUCH GUNZ AS THEY ALL WANTZ!!11!!!

I’m sure you’d get some interesting derp if you discussed the “historical” definition of “militia” with them as well.
:p

147 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 5:40:30am

Besides obviously not having read Heller and the conclusions reached there, he’s arguing “historical context” while completely missing it. The 2nd Amendment had everything to do with the distrust amongst anti-Federalists of a standing army and the power over such army resting in a central government rather than the states. Perhaps he supports the 2A because he believes able-bodied men should be members of their state militia?

148 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 5:45:06am

re: #147 Targetpractice

Besides obviously not having read Heller and the conclusions reached there, he’s arguing “historical context” while completely missing it. The 2nd Amendment had everything to do with the distrust amongst anti-Federalists of a standing army and the power over such army resting in a central government rather than the states. Perhaps he supports the 2A because he believes able-bodied men should be members of their state militia?

He spewed a bunch of talking points before concluding with the standard U R A DUMB LIBRUL!!11!!

149 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 5:45:55am

re: #148 Vicious Babushka

He spewed a bunch of talking points before concluding with the standard U R A DUMB LIBRUL!!11!!

And he’s a half-wit trying to play at being an intellectual.

150 A Mom Anon  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 5:46:17am

Is it possible that the only people against background checks to purchase firearms know they couldn’t pass those background checks? When surveys show anywhere from 70-90 percent of the country supports these checks, what the hell is the problem?

I’ll also be totally fascinated to see how many right wingers suddenly are no longer nearly as paranoid after the black family in the White House moves on and a new President moves in that isn’t so Communist/Marxist/Kenyan. Yes, that shall be an interesting thing to observe….

151 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 5:46:50am

What RW racism?

152 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 5:48:55am

re: #150 A Mom Anon

Is it possible that the only people against background checks to purchase firearms know they couldn’t pass those background checks? When surveys show anywhere from 70-90 percent of the country supports these checks, what the hell is the problem?

I’ll also be totally fascinated to see how many right wingers suddenly are no longer nearly as paranoid after the black family in the White House moves on and a new President moves in that isn’t so Communist/Marxist/Kenyan. Yes, that shall be an interesting thing to observe….

The biggest driver of the opposition to background checks is the batshit crazy theory, primarily pushed by the NRA, that the records obtained through expanded background checks will be used by the federal government to compose an unofficial gun registry, the purpose of which is to make a future ban on gun ownership easier to enforce.

153 A Mom Anon  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 5:50:00am

re: #151 Vicious Babushka

I wouldn’t call it gutsy. I would however say it takes balls the size of a small city to be a white guy going to a black college and then proceed to explain to a room full of well educated young people that they’re stupid, don’t know their history and need to vote for Republicans because they used to be the party of Lincoln. Go Rand Go!!!

154 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 5:52:07am

re: #153 A Mom Anon

I wouldn’t call it gutsy. I would however say it takes balls the size of a small city to be a white guy going to a black college and then proceed to explain to a room full of well educated young people that they’re stupid, don’t know their history and need to vote for Republicans because they used to be the party of Lincoln. Go Rand Go!!!

It takes 1) arrogance combined with 2) cluelessness. I don’t see “balls” anywhere in the equation.

155 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 5:52:15am

re: #151 Vicious Babushka

What RW racism?

Rand Paul, just another fascist with a libertarian fig leaf & channeling the Kingfish. Thankfully he’s not even as smart as daddy fascist…

156 A Mom Anon  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 5:52:20am

re: #152 Targetpractice

Yep, but again, I do have to wonder if the ones protesting the loudest and spouting the most loony theories would even pass the check. I’m betting a big huge NOPE. IMO, that’s precisely what this is about.

157 A Mom Anon  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 5:54:18am

re: #154 Vicious Babushka

In my neck of the woods, “balls” means it takes a lot of freaking arrogant nerve to even consider such a move, in this context at least.

158 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 5:56:41am

re: #157 A Mom Anon

In my neck of the woods, “balls” means it takes a lot of freaking arrogant nerve to even consider such a move, in this context at least.

We call it “chutzpah”

159 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 5:57:20am

re: #150 A Mom Anon

Is it possible that the only people against background checks to purchase firearms know they couldn’t pass those background checks? When surveys show anywhere from 70-90 percent of the country supports these checks, what the hell is the problem?

I’ll also be totally fascinated to see how many right wingers suddenly are no longer nearly as paranoid after the black family in the White House moves on and a new President moves in that isn’t so Communist/Marxist/Kenyan. Yes, that shall be an interesting thing to observe….

That, and the NRA promising to “punish” anyone who votes for any of the bills currently being discussed and passed.

I do wonder if GOP politicians (and Democrats too) will ever realize that allowing themselves to be so simply blackmailed on issue after issue by specialty interest groups with pocket books is:
1. Showing a lack of guts
2. Showing a lack of principles
3. Present the politician (and by association most politicians) as a commodity to be openly bought or intimidated by threat of primary opposition
4. A lousy way to run a country
5. The politician will ultimately end up with the dilemma of having two deep-pocketed interest groups on opposite sides of an issue

Though I expect they tell themselves in bed at night that they are on the side of Right, bravely resisting those who will destroy America, and will be retired and gone with a nice bank account when things collapse.

160 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 6:08:34am

re: #159 Feline Fearless Leader

That, and the NRA promising to “punish” anyone who votes for any of the bills currently being discussed and passed.

I do wonder if GOP politicians (and Democrats too) will ever realize that allowing themselves to be so simply blackmailed on issue after issue by specialty interest groups with pocket books is:
1. Showing a lack of guts
2. Showing a lack of principles
3. Present the politician (and by association most politicians) as a commodity to be openly bought or intimidated by threat of primary opposition
4. A lousy way to run a country
5. The politician will ultimately end up with the dilemma of having two deep-pocketed interest groups on opposite sides of an issue

Though I expect they tell themselves in bed at night that they are on the side of Right, bravely resisting those who will destroy America, and will be retired and gone with a nice bank account when things collapse.

The GOP’s signed one too many Faustian pacts. They’ve gerrymandered themselves into “safe” districts that are in reality locked wards where the inmates are running the asylum. At this point they have no other choice, they have to keep screaming “NO!” to anything that Democrats support just to avoid going home to a primary challenge from a “true conservative” who’s getting bankrolled courtesy of Citizens United.

161 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 6:10:16am

Cue the screeching of “CENSORSHIP!”:

Ben Carson Stepping Down As Graduation Speaker At Johns Hopkins

Bowing to pressure from students, Dr. Ben Carson on Wednesday stepped down as commencement speaker at Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, the Baltimore Sun reported.

In a letter sent to Dr. Paul B. Rothman, dean of the medical school, Carson said his withdrawal from the ceremony “would be in the best interest of the students.”

“Given all the national media surrounding my statements as to my belief in traditional marriage, I believe it would be in the best interest of the students for me to voluntarily withdraw as your commencement speaker this year,” Carson, the director of pediatric neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins, wrote. He will also step down as the speaker for the diploma ceremony at the university’s school of education.

162 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 6:10:41am

re: #160 Targetpractice

The GOP’s signed one too many Faustian pacts. They’ve gerrymandered themselves into “safe” districts that are in reality locked wards where the inmates are running the asylum. At this point they have no other choice, they have to keep screaming “NO!” to anything that Democrats support just to avoid going home to a primary challenge from a “true conservative” who’s getting bankrolled courtesy of Citizens United.

Yea. The various nut groups threatening Toomey here in PA actually amuses me. Since if they primary him from even farther to the right I expect the Democrats to walk away with another US Senate seat.

163 Political Atheist  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 6:13:28am

Here we go again=Man Points Smartphone Camera at Cop, Gets Arrested for Brandishing “Weapon” Takes a beat down that put him in the hospital briefly, SDPD is just F.O.S.
Paged

164 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 6:15:17am

Pammy, having a tantrum.

165 A Mom Anon  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 6:20:31am

re: #164 Vicious Babushka

I’m not entirely sure she’s capable of NOT having a tantrum. Over anything.

If I had her money, I think I’d make sure my finances were in order and then I’d take my kids and go on a nice long vacation. I certainly wouldn’t be talking about myself in self written blog articles titled in the 3rd person (“Geller wronged again!! Geller Victim of Evil Leftists!!”) or hanging out with racist douchenozzles.

166 lawhawk  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 6:22:25am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.

Manchin and Toomey’s plan on background checks is weak tea. It falls short of universal checks (something that LaPierre and the NRA supported way back in 1999 - when LaPierre testified on their utility and benefits before Congress):

We think it is reasonable to provide mandatory, instant criminal background checks for every sale at every gun show. No loopholes anywhere for anyone. That means closing the Hinckley loophole so the records of those adjudicated mentally ill are in the system.

This is not new or a change of position or a concession. I have been on the record on this point consistently, from our national meeting in Denver to paid national ads and position papers, to news interviews, and press appearances. But I have repeatedly emphasized that this administration must stop illegally keeping records of lawful gun buyers.

In fact, it is the media’s well-kept secret that the NRA was an early architect and supporter of the National Instant Check System now in place. Chairman McCollum knows; we worked with him on Instant Checks, gosh, more than a decade ago now.

We think it is reasonable to provide for instant gun checks at shows just like at gun stores and pawn shops. But what is unreasonable is how the proposed Lautenberg legislation ignores the 250,000 prohibited people, like felons, who walked away from gun stores, instead of being prosecuted for a Federal felony for trying to buy a gun.We think it is reasonable to prevent all juveniles convicted of violent felonies from owning guns for life. What is unreasonable is how Lautenberg can prevent your law-abiding son from inheriting his grandpa’s shotgun collection because Lautenberg classifies him as a gun-show dealer who must be Federally regulated.

We think it is reasonable to prosecute more than just two dozen thugs last year for putting illegal guns in criminals’ hands. What is unreasonable is that Lautenberg considers legal guns in private hands subject to intrusive Federal regulation even in they privacy of your home.

Note that the NRA’s objections are based on a lack of prosecutions of the rejected applicants (ignoring that some could have been underage attempts). Prosecutors need funds to prosecute, and this is one area that hasn’t gotten sufficient funding. Moreover, state laws may provide for greater penalties and some can be prosecuted quicker and easier in state courts. But a sale prevented is a gun that didn’t get into the wrong hands - prosecution or not.

Now, it wouldn’t have prevented Newtown. But that’s not the only gun violence to occur on a daily basis. Universal checks would have prevented the Columbine massacre - both the shooters there were under age and would have been rejected in a background check at gun shows. It’s possible that it could have prevented Virginia Tech if methods were in place to get mental health warnings included in the check process.

The background check wont eliminate all gun crime. It is likely to reduce it - the degree to which is something that is debatable.

But the NRA today doesn’t want a debate. They don’t want anything - even a check that isn’t creating permanent government databases all while scare-mongering to goose sales even further.

It’s also telling that while there’s a consensus that the Toomey-Manchin plan has Senate support, the House GOP is going to balk and attempt to water down the plan even further, if not attempt to kill it outright. That’s despite all the polling that suggests that universal checks have overwhelming support.

167 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 6:28:16am

re: #166 lawhawk

That’s not the half of it. In order to get Snowe not to join the filibuster, they agreed to allowing debate on all proposed amendments to the bill, which means it’s likely to get watered-down before it even leaves the Senate.

I’m not even going to say that it’s “better than nothing,” because it is nothing. It’s a joke, if only because it’s being sold as “bipartisan” because the two authors, between whom there’s not enough room to shine a flashlight, happen to have different letters after their names.

168 Bulworth  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 6:32:16am

re: #167 Targetpractice

Snowe’s still in the Senate?

169 lawhawk  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 6:32:45am

This is one of those “Only in New Jersey” stories. One of the owners of the famous Tick Tock Diner in Clifton NJ was arrested and charged in a murder for hire plot to kill another owner of the diner because he thought the other owner was taking too much from the diner operations.

A manager of the Tick Tock Diner in Clifton, who was in danger of losing his home because of unpaid taxes, plotted to kill his boss and family member for money that he believed was kept in a safe, state officials said.

Georgios Spyropoulos, 45, of Clifton, offered $20,000 to a state trooper posing as a hit man to torture the owner, his wife’s uncle, to obtain the combination to the safe, the state attorney general said Wednesday. He also told the trooper it would be OK to kill not only the owner, but the owner’s wife as well if she happened to be at home.

“That’s how coldblooded he was,” Attorney General Jeffrey S. Chiesa said during a press conference at the state police barracks in Totowa. Spyropoulos provided an unregistered revolver, a map to the murder target’s Clifton home and instructions on how to disarm the security system to the two undercover operatives, Chiesa said.

I’ve gone to the diner on numerous occasions and they’ve got fantastic food - they’ve been featured on Diners Drive Ins and Dives and foodies regularly note they are one of the best diners in the state and country.

But this whole episode is something straight out of the Sopranos (which filmed episodes there as well IIRC).

170 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 6:34:37am

re: #168 Bulworth

Snowe’s still in the Senate?

Sorry, meant Collins. Keep getting those two mixed up.

171 Bulworth  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 6:35:49am

re: #161 Targetpractice

I’m not sure there are enough fainting couches and pearls left in the whole wide world for all the people sure to fall and clutch to this news. Because Carson and other anti-gay “Christians” have a Constitutional right to say whatever they want and not have people disagree. //

172 Bulworth  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 6:36:36am

re: #170 Targetpractice

Well, I’m sure Collins wouldn’t have filibustered. She’s a moderate. /

173 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 6:40:55am

re: #170 Targetpractice

Sorry, meant Collins. Keep getting those two mixed up.

Snowe retired and was replaced by Angus King (Ind, but caucuses with the Democrats.) Collins’ current term is up in 2014.

174 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 6:43:15am

re: #173 Feline Fearless Leader

Snowe retired and was replaced by Angus King (Ind, but caucuses with the Democrats.) Collins’ current term is up in 2014.

Which I should know, but for some reason my mind has linked Snowe and Collins together, probably because whenever one had “concerns,” the other was sure to follow.

175 Bulworth  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 6:43:16am

The Twitters are telling me that the state of Delaware is set to introduce legislation to approve same-sex marriage. Cue the Santorum-Fischer-Perkins hysteria.

176 Bulworth  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 6:44:14am

re: #174 Targetpractice

Both were, and are, Very Serious although they have many Concerns about many things but they’re very Bipartisany. /

177 aagcobb  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 6:47:00am

re: #161 Targetpractice

Cue the screeching of “CENSORSHIP!”:

Ben Carson Stepping Down As Graduation Speaker At Johns Hopkins

It wasn’t about your defense of traditional marriage, its about your offensive anti-gay bigotry.

178 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 6:47:12am

re: #176 Bulworth

Both were, and are, Very Serious although they have many Concerns about many things but they’re very Bipartisany. /

Sometimes appeared that they were the sole moderates left in the GOP side of the Senate. And both have had “RINO” labels stuck on them by the fanatics.

And I expect that if the nuts primaried Collins out somehow the Democrats (or an Independent that would essentially act like a Democrat) would walk away with the seat and be another step in the GOP losing any and all national representation from New England.

179 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 6:47:31am

re: #175 Bulworth

The Twitters are telling me that the state of Delaware is set to introduce legislation to approve same-sex marriage. Cue the Santorum-Fischer-Perkins hysteria.

Kinda wonder if the passage of such would have any bearing on the Prop 8/DOMA double-header that SCOTUS is deliberating on. Knowing our luck with the court, they’ll argue that it’s “proof” that same-sex marriage is fast becoming accepted at the state level and there’s no reason for them to hinder or help that process along.

180 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 6:50:20am

Good morning lizards!

181 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 6:51:21am

re: #179 Targetpractice

Kinda wonder if the passage of such would have any bearing on the Prop 8/DOMA double-header that SCOTUS is deliberating on. Knowing our luck with the court, they’ll argue that it’s “proof” that same-sex marriage is fast becoming accepted at the state level and there’s no reason for them to hinder or help that process along.

Which is sort of stupid since differing state rules regarding SSM is just going to generate multiple 14th Amendment based equal protection suits until the Supreme Court makes a broader ruling regarding it. And cause more disturbance the longer they wait since allowing the separate standards is simply going to fuel the current iteration of nullification and “state’s rights” further.

182 sattv4u2  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 6:53:10am

re: #180 NJDhockeyfan

Good morning lizards!

How do you know that? There are still over 2 hours left (here on the east coast) Anything could happen to change that!!!

183 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 6:53:15am

re: #181 Feline Fearless Leader

Which is sort of stupid since differing state rules regarding SSM is just going to generate multiple 14th Amendment based equal protection suits until the Supreme Court makes a broader ruling regarding it. And cause more disturbance the longer they wait since allowing the separate standards is simply going to fuel the current iteration of nullification and “state’s rights” further.

Could be worse. Kennedy’s looking to try to overturn DOMA on 10th Amendment grounds. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see what that sort of precedent would lead to.

184 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 6:56:11am

re: #182 sattv4u2

How do you know that? There are still over 2 hours left (here on the east coast) Anything could happen to change that!!!

You are right. I’m about to go to a sales meeting!

185 lawhawk  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 6:58:02am

re: #179 Targetpractice

Speaking of SSM:

There’s analysis at the link about how the Court might find that the sponsors of the Prop 8 lacked standing to bring suit, and that the Court might remand to trial court for disposition. If that happens, the SSM couples who sued would have to file a summary judgment motion and see if the State defends (a party that would have standing to sue/defend). If the State opts not to defend and the SSM couples win on default, the judge could issue a permanent injunction invalidating the Prop 8.

186 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 6:59:48am

re: #185 lawhawk

Speaking of SSM:

There’s analysis at the link about how the Court might find that the sponsors of the Prop 8 lacked standing to bring suit, and that the Court might remand to trial court for disposition. If that happens, the SSM couples who sued would have to file a summary judgment motion and see if the State defends (a party that would have standing to sue/defend). If the State opts not to defend and the SSM couples win on default, the judge could issue a permanent injunction invalidating the Prop 8.

Considering who’s in the governor’s mansion right now? I don’t think the state would choose to defend, which would pretty much mean Prop 8 is DOA. But that does nothing but punt on the issue of state-level law.

187 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 7:02:15am

Even after being shot, store owner fights off gunman with bat

Luis Quizhpe would take the shirt off his back for someone who needed it, his son said Wednesday.

On Tuesday he took a bullet — while swinging a baseball bat at a gun-wielding robber — defending the Logan Square novelty store he’s run for 28 years.

…The elder Quizhpe can be seen grabbing a baseball bat and swinging as the robber fires continuous rounds at him at close range. Just one bullet pierced Quizhpe’s leg.

Still Quizhpe kept on swinging, even after being shot, and even as one of the robbers hopped back over the counter and shot at him again at close range. The video captured Quizhpe’s brother-in-law hitting one of the robbers with an extension rod, then grabbing a stool and throwing it at him. Just after the robber had hopped over the counter to escape, Quizhpe’s brother-in-law can be seen throwing a fire extinguisher at him on the way out.

Lets go to the video tape!

abclocal.go.com

188 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 7:06:59am

re: #187 NJDhockeyfan

Even after being shot, store owner fights off gunman with bat

Lets go to the video tape!

abclocal.go.com

No one would have even tried any of that at the Hardy-Har Hut due to…
Christopher Walken!

:)

On a serious note it’s good that the store owner was not seriously injured.

189 sattv4u2  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 7:07:29am

re: #184 NJDhockeyfan

You are right. I’m about to go to a sales meeting!

Image: sails_for_patterns.jpg

190 sattv4u2  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 7:09:13am

re: #187 NJDhockeyfan

Even after being shot, store owner fights off gunman with bat

Lets go to the video tape!

abclocal.go.com

After the story broke, the Chicago Cubs have contacted the store owner and offered him a contract to bat clean up!!!
/

191 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 7:11:05am

re: #189 sattv4u2

Image: sails_for_patterns.jpg

Trying to canvass up some deals?

192 sattv4u2  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 7:11:50am

re: #191 Feline Fearless Leader

Trying to canvass up some deals?

Any port in a storm!

193 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 7:14:09am
194 stabby  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 7:19:43am

I can see on the blogs that British right wingers are painting the celebrations as proof that the far left is vile. It could be for all I know. Perhaps, as they claim, there is more hatred because she ended a welfare system and broke up entire neighborhoods that were near no source of jobs.

But the poll tax is still enough of a crime to make her deserve to be spit on.

195 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 7:20:49am
196 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 7:20:52am
197 stabby  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 7:23:02am

re: #196 Feline Fearless Leader

uh… “poll tax” in England has nothing to do with voting.

en.wikipedia.org

It’s more of the local tax charge for services. The issue that caused riots was changing it to per person from per house/property.

As I heard it on KPFA, back then, it was a regressive fee and one could not vote without paying it. Was it a poll tax or not?

198 stabby  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 7:23:46am

Was it designed to discourage the poor from voting or was it not?

199 stabby  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 7:24:24am

re: #195 Mattand

One doesn’t solve things with politically-motivated murder, either.

One can’t solve things otherwise if you’re prevented from voting.

200 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 7:27:06am

re: #198 stabby

Was it designed to discourage the poor from voting or was it not?

In the US, yes. Thus that attachment here since it was used to disenfranchise.

In the UK, no. It was a regressive per-head (poll) tax replacing a previous system that was based on the value of property. If you read the link I provided there is a history of the issues with it when it was championed and implemented by the Conservatives while under Thatcher’s leadership.

201 stabby  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 7:28:28am

From the Wikipedia article

There is also some evidence that the community charge had a lasting effect of people not registering themselves on the electoral register to evade collection attempts. This may have had an effect on the results of the 1992 general election, which ended in a fourth successive Conservative victory, despite most opinion polls pointing to a hung parliament or narrow Labour majority.[3]

So you’re not entirely right.

202 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 7:30:11am

re: #201 stabby

From the Wikipedia article

So you’re not entirely right.

Do you think this was the primary intention of the law? Or to shift tax liability away from the wealthy to the poor by basing the majority of local taxation on a per person basis rather than a property value basis?

203 Mattand  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 7:30:54am

re: #199 stabby

One can’t solve things otherwise if you’re prevented from voting.

Seriously, dude, substitue “Obama” for “Thatcher” and “Obamacare” for “poll tax”. There’s a good chunk of this country “just saying” that something should “happen” to the President over it.

Your line of thought is no different from the horseshit coming out of Free Republic, Fox Nation, and any gathering of more than two Tea Partiers.

Do you really want to lower yourself that to that level? It’s fine to be angry with Thatcher’s policies. But murder? Fuck that.

204 stabby  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 7:31:19am

re: #202 Feline Fearless Leader

Do you think this was the primary intention of the law? Or to shift tax liability away from the wealthy to the poor by basing the majority of local taxation on a per person basis rather than a property value basis?

What would you say if the Republicans introduced a regressive tax that the poor could evade by not voting?

You would give them the benefit of the doubt that it was merest error?

205 danarchy  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 7:32:10am

re: #194 stabby

I can see on the blogs that British right wingers are painting the celebrations as proof that the far left is vile. It could be for all I know. Perhaps, as they claim, there is more hatred because she ended a welfare system and broke up entire neighborhoods that were near no source of jobs.

But the poll tax is still enough of a crime to make her deserve to be spit on.

So I’m not an expert on British history, but I have been doing a little searching and as far as I can tell, the “poll tax” or “community charge” had nothing to do with voting? The big complaint was that it was a very regressive tax. Which may be bad policy and bad enough in itself, but destroying democracy, really? If losing ones voting rights was a consequence of non payment that’s is very bad, but I am not seeing that anywhere.

206 stabby  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 7:32:33am

re: #203 Mattand

Substitute “poll tax” for “deliberately disenfranchising black voters” and my opinion hasn’t changed at all.

207 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 7:32:52am
208 Mattand  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 7:38:29am

re: #206 stabby

Substitute “poll tax” for “deliberately disenfranchising black voters” and my opinion hasn’t changed at all.

You want to advocate political assassination, that’s on you. Just don’t get your panties in a wad next time someone calls for the murder of a politician you support, but they disagree with.

You have to be very stupid or very fanatical to not see where that fucking road leads.

209 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 7:45:20am

ANOTHER CLASSY WINGNUT (Self-described “Christian”)

210 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 7:51:59am

Pammy found another venue:

211 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 7:55:07am

DERP

212 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 7:58:14am

FISH IN A BARREL

213 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 8:04:59am

Of course the response was the usual

TEH MSM IZ A COMMUNIZT PROPAGANDA MACHINE!!11!! ONLY INFOWARS HAS TEH TROOF!!11!!

214 lawhawk  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 8:05:58am

Geller’s busy shrieking that her free speech rights are being violated.

Ummm.. survey says? *****BZZZZ******

First Amendment is for state/government action. There’s no state action. It’s private entities, in this case, the Great Neck Synagogue, which first extended and then revoked its invite to Geller.

Geller’s perfectly free to spew her hate in the public space, but private groups do not have to give her that opportunity.

But that kind of nuance and fact doesn’t fit her narrative, so she’s going to complain about being repressed for speaking her truth to power about Islamofascism.

215 Decatur Deb  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 8:06:57am

re: #212 Vicious Babushka

FISH IN A BARREL

Good fishing this morning.

216 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 8:07:22am

re: #214 lawhawk

Geller’s busy shrieking that her free speech rights are being violated.

Ummm.. survey says? *****BZZZZ******

First Amendment is for state/government action. There’s no state action. It’s private entities, in this case, the Great Neck Synagogue, which first extended and then revoked its invite to Geller.

Geller’s perfectly free to spew her hate in the public space, but private groups do not have to give her that opportunity.

But that kind of nuance and fact doesn’t fit her narrative, so she’s going to complain about being repressed for speaking her truth to power about Islamofascism.

The First Amendment does not guarantee anyone the right to a venue.

217 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 8:09:10am

Pam, it’s Great Neck’s party and they decided to withdraw their invitation after they learned that you would get drunk and puke all over their carpet and furniture.

218 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 8:25:21am
219 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 8:26:34am

There is more than one Temple Beth-El in New Jersey.

I think Pam may try to pull a fast one by tricking protestors into showing up at the wrong one.

220 lawhawk  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 8:28:48am

re: #218 Vicious Babushka

Temple Beth El of Edison, New Jersey. They’ve got a Rabbi Rosenberg presiding.

221 wrenchwench  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 8:31:16am

re: #220 lawhawk

Temple Beth El of Edison, New Jersey. They’ve got a Rabbi Rosenberg presiding.

This Rabbi Rosenberg, specifically.

‘Rabbis For Romney’ Founder Isn’t Saying Which Rabbis Are For Romney

222 lawhawk  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 8:34:35am

re: #220 lawhawk

Also, that particular congregation already has an event scheduled for this Sunday:

Sunday 4/14/13
Please join Rabbi Gerald Zelizer at Congregation Neve Shalom for a Lecture at 10:00 AM on “Moral Challenges in Contemporary Warfare: The Case of Israel.” The speaker is Professor Moshe Halbertal who, as you know, is one of the authors of the Code of Ethics of the Israel Defense Force.

223 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 8:37:58am

re: #222 lawhawk

Also, that particular congregation already has an event scheduled for this Sunday:

Pam’s event is scheduled for the evening, that one is in the morning.

224 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 8:38:34am

Greetings again from the Rocky Mountains in Colorado. Estes Park is quite beautiful but boy did we have a long ride up here last night. Daylight fading, snow blowing across the windy roads and the occasional squall to drive through does not make for a winning combination.

We made it though and I must say I think it was worth it. I like it up here though its still very cold (about 26 degrees outside).

225 Decatur Deb  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 8:40:13am

re: #224 Eclectic Cyborg

Greetings again from the Rocky Mountains in Colorado. Estes Park is quite beautiful but boy did we have a long ride up here last night. Daylight fading, snow blowing across the windy roads and the occasional squall to drive through does not make for a winning combination.

We made it though and I must say I think it was worth it. I like it up here though its still very cold (about 26 degrees outside).

What wine do you bring to a Donner party?

226 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 8:40:37am

re: #225 Decatur Deb

What wine do you bring to a Donner party?

A nice Chianti.

227 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 8:41:31am

re: #224 Eclectic Cyborg

Greetings again from the Rocky Mountains in Colorado. Estes Park is quite beautiful but boy did we have a long ride up here last night. Daylight fading, snow blowing across the windy roads and the occasional squall to drive through does not make for a winning combination.

We made it though and I must say I think it was worth it. I like it up here though its still very cold (about 26 degrees outside).

I’ve been up over the pass in Estes in April as well. Bracing cold air and high altitude. Enjoy.

228 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 8:41:54am

re: #225 Decatur Deb

What wine do you bring to a Donner party?

A nice chianti is my guess.

229 lawhawk  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 8:41:57am

re: #223 Vicious Babushka

I get that - it’s going to be tough to drum up folks who will attend on such short notice. Having been involved in planning/prep for my own shul’s events, they want to give enough lead time and want to avoid scheduling multiple events on the same day.

230 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 8:43:15am

re: #229 lawhawk

I get that - it’s going to be tough to drum up folks who will attend on such short notice. Having been involved in planning/prep for my own shul’s events, they want to give enough lead time and want to avoid scheduling multiple events on the same day.

I’m guessing they are promoting a Sunday morning event at another venue:

Please join Rabbi Gerald Zelizer at Congregation Neve Shalom

231 lawhawk  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 8:46:20am

re: #230 Vicious Babushka

I’m guess that there may be more press than actual attendees.

232 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 8:47:06am

*FACE PALM*

233 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 8:47:15am

re: #226 Vicious Babushka

A nice Chianti.

Only if you have a side of fava beans as well…

234 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 8:47:25am

re: #204 stabby

What would you say if the Republicans introduced a regressive tax that the poor could evade by not voting?

You would give them the benefit of the doubt that it was merest error?

There is historical precedence *in the United States* for using a tax as a method of disenfranchisement, thus no.

And also a history of disenfranchisement attempts in the United States as well which makes one generally suspicious of law changes that appear to have an impact on the ability to vote (Voter ID, polling station locations and hours, etc.)

235 Decatur Deb  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 8:51:22am

re: #234 Feline Fearless Leader

There is historical precedence *in the United States* for using a tax as a method of disenfranchisement, thus no.

And also a history of disenfranchisement attempts in the United States as well which makes one generally suspicious of law changes that appear to have an impact on the ability to vote (Voter ID, polling station locations and hours, etc.)

Everyone understands that you are talking about two completely different things called ‘poll tax’, m’right?

236 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 8:51:59am

re: #190 sattv4u2

After the story broke, the Chicago Cubs have contacted the store owner and offered him a contract to bat clean up!!!
/

Speaking of the Cubs. Their fans will do just about anything to remove the dreaded billy goat curse.


More Cubs lore: Goat’s head delivered to Wrigley

Police are looking for the man who dropped off a goat’s head at Wrigley Field addressed to Cubs owner Tom Ricketts.

The man drove up to the ballpark around 2 p.m. Wednesday and handed a package to a security guard at Gate K, according to police and Cubs spokesman Julian Green.

The man asked the guard to deliver the package to Ricketts, then got back into his truck and drove away, police said. Security officials found the goat’s head inside. The head was all black and had a U.S. Department of Agriculture tag on its ear, police said.

The package did not contain a note and was never delivered to Ricketts, police said. The head was taken to the city’s Animal Control department, police said.

Police are investigating the “intimidating package,” Police News Affairs Officer Veejay Zala said.

237 wrenchwench  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 8:54:47am

He’s concerned about Benghazi. (He’s all over the comments here. This is his last one.)

RABBI DR. BERNHARD ROSENBERG

September 12, 2012

•last night I WAS THE KEYNOTE SPEAKER AT OUR TOWNSHIP 9/11 PROGRAM. I was one of the chaplains at 9/11 and now have asthma. . I am angry and will be on several media outlets todays. The right wing Muslims should BURN IN HELL. HOW DARE THE U.S. apologize as our ambassador to LIBYA LIES DEAD. . THE NEW Nazis ARE THESE Islamic EXTREMISTS. Rabbi DR. Bernhard ROSENBERG

238 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 8:56:51am

OH SHIT


I am contacting the Shliach of that Chabad congregation.

239 Lidane  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 8:59:34am

Focusing on the important issues:

240 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:00:52am

I don’t have access to my Foundation email, as soon as I get home I will contact that congregation using the Jewish-History.com email address.

241 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:01:48am

re: #239 Lidane

Focusing on the important issues:

WTF is the obsession with Cuba? They are no longer a Cold War listening post for the Sovieet Bloc, nor are they a political threat to the stability of the region…this is really sad.

242 Lidane  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:01:49am

More GOP rebranding:

243 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:03:30am
244 efuseakay  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:05:00am

re: #236 NJDhockeyfan

Speaking of the Cubs. Their fans will do just about anything to remove the dreaded billy goat curse.

More Cubs lore: Goat’s head delivered to Wrigley

Probably the rooftop freeloaders/profiteers across Waveland trying to send a message to not obstruct their views with the future renovation/additions.

245 Lidane  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:07:44am

re: #243 Vicious Babushka

WTF. He was at his partner’s bedside. Why should he leave?

The laws in this country are so fucked up.

246 Destro  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:09:19am

re: #243 Vicious Babushka

Can I ask why hospitals, which you pay for like you pay for a hotel room, restricts who sees whom? I am paying for this room!

247 efuseakay  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:09:42am

re: #245 Lidane

WTF. He was at his partner’s bedside. Why should he leave?

The laws in this country are so fucked up.

It’s Missouri. You expected anything else?

248 Lidane  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:10:07am

If this happened, it would be a net positive for the GOP:

249 Lidane  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:11:04am

re: #247 efuseakay

It’s Missouri. You expected anything else?

Yeah, I know.

Cases like this exemplify why we need marriage equality in all 50 states. It’s bullshit that loving couples have to go through this stuff.

250 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:13:40am

That’s such an aggravating case. Really, there are so many things that are taken for granted.

251 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:15:34am

re: #248 Lidane

If this happened, it would be a net positive for the GOP:

They always threaten but they always come home. Amused that they’re upset because they don’t think they’ve been unkind to gays. Yeah calling gays pedophiles is what a kind person does.

252 Pamela Gellar [sic(k)]  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:15:38am

on the plus side, this gives me an incentive to change my screen name again.

253 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:16:51am

Hopefully USSC reverses DOMA but unfortunately you got a lot of states that have already banned not only gay marriage but also civil unions as well.

254 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:17:10am

re: #252 Pamela Gellar [sic(k)]

on the plus side, this gives me an incentive to change my screen name again.

sicK transit gelloria mundi

255 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:19:54am

Apparently in 2010 Obama ordered all Hospitals that accept Medicare to allow patients to decide who can and cannot be in the room with them but despite this, many hospitals still discriminate in these matters.

256 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:23:34am

re: #255 Eclectic Cyborg

IMHO, this one of the key rights that need to be addressed by repealing DOMA.

257 lawhawk  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:26:47am

re: #246 Destro

Can I ask why hospitals, which you pay for like you pay for a hotel room, restricts who sees whom? I am paying for this room!

Because of health care privacy rules and access rules in hospitals that generally restrict access to family/relatives.

It’s why the SSM issue goes beyond just marriage and relates to how estate, health care, and other issues are addressed - including health care privacy/access.

258 Pamela Gellar [sic(k)]  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:28:23am

re: #254 Sol Berdinowitz

sicK transit gelloria mundi

The Daily News (or maybe it was the NY Post) once headlined an article about an ill Gloria Vanderbilt’s travels with “Sick Gloria in Transit Monday”.

259 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:28:43am

GAH

260 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:31:52am

re: #244 efuseakay

Probably the rooftop freeloaders/profiteers across Waveland trying to send a message to not obstruct their views with the future renovation/additions.

Those people up there have been fighting that idea for years. I hope they win.

261 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:35:02am

re: #258 Pamela Gellar [sic(k)]

The Daily News (or maybe it was the NY Post) once headlined an article about an ill Gloria Vanderbilt’s travels with “Sick Gloria in Transit Monday”.

One of my faves showed Aristotle Onassis in town shopping for apartments, including one once owned by Buster Keaton with the title:

“Aristotle Contemplating a Home of Buster”

262 Pamela Gellar [sic(k)]  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:36:57am

re: #261 Sol Berdinowitz

One of my faves shoewd Aristotle Onassis in town shopping for apartments, including one once owned by Buster Keaton with the title:

“Aristotle Contemplating a Home of Buster”

haha— hadn’t heard that one before! Almost as good as “Headless Body Found in Topless Bar”. :)

263 Lidane  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:38:32am

Because the courts aren’t overwhelmed enough already:

264 Bulworth  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:41:27am

re: #259 Vicious Babushka

Sounds like it’ll do wonders for interfaith dialogue./

265 ProBosniaLiberal  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:42:39am

Meanwhile, in Bangladesh….

Bangladesh police hold editor Mahmudur Rahman from the leading opposition Amar Desh newspaper in custody after his arrest on charges alleging sedition, illegal publication of Skype conversations of a judge in Bangladesh’s ongoing war crimes trial, and inciting violence in recent protests.

266 Bulworth  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:42:57am

re: #263 Lidane

And if PBO won’t agree to this Very Serious proposal our ‘librul’ media can write about how PBO is obstructing things and not being all non-bi-partisany. //

267 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:47:03am

re: #264 Bulworth

Sounds like it’ll do wonders for interfaith dialogue./

Yeah well, my email to them will mention just how this is FUCKING SHIT UP for other rabbis (like my sons) who are working across faiths.

Also, how would they like it if some mosque or church invited a speaker who wants to ban Jewish rituals like circumcision, mikvah, kosher slaughter?

268 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:47:55am
269 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:49:38am

re: #268 ProBosniaLiberal

And the US, Canada, and Jordan had the moral gumption to boycott a meeting where the Serbian Prime Minister is caterwauling that the War Crimes Tribunal is persecuting Serbs.

Serbia hasn’t learned, have they. They never will. We do need to prepare for the inevitability of another war in the Balkans. This time, let’s take the gloves off.

Who is this “we” that you think should plunge into an all out war?

270 CuriousLurker  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:50:13am

re: #259 Vicious Babushka

GAH

She’s getting help characterizing the cancellation as being due to threats against Sunday school kids (WebCite link):

“The synagogue didn’t turn on me, it did what it felt it needed to do to protect the Sunday School children. Once the thugs announced they were going to organize a mob march of leftist Jews and Muslims on the shul on Sunday morning, when all the children are there to attend Sunday School – the parents were terrified and the shul had to respond,” Geller told The Jewish Press, just hours after she learned of the cancellation.

“Still, it’s a sad day. The synagogue should not have had to make a choice between protecting Sunday School children and allowing me to speak about the dangers of Sharia.”

Apparently if “leftist” Jews & Muslims are involved, a peaceful demonstration immediately becomes a sinister & potentially violent “mob march” composed of thugs who would harm children. Utter wingnut bullshit.

271 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:51:40am
272 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:52:20am

re: #271 ProBosniaLiberal

The US and NATO.

The Serbians will try to purge and wipe out the Bosnians and Croats in Bosnia again. Let’s prepare for it, and wait for them to try again.

No. Just no.

273 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:52:55am

re: #235 Decatur Deb

Everyone understands that you are talking about two completely different things called ‘poll tax’, m’right?

stabby seems to think they should be granted higher equivalence then I am giving them.

And that I consider them completely different might currently be unclear due to some deleted comments upthread.

274 Destro  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:53:37am

re: #257 lawhawk

Because of health care privacy rules and access rules in hospitals that generally restrict access to family/relatives.

It’s why the SSM issue goes beyond just marriage and relates to how estate, health care, and other issues are addressed - including health care privacy/access.

I do know for a fact that hospitals have suite like rooms for the rich and these is ZERO restrictions and private access to said rooms generally (different elevator banks in newer hospitals) and there are no said restrictions.

275 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:53:39am

re: #271 ProBosniaLiberal

The US and NATO.

The Serbians will try to purge and wipe out the Bosnians and Croats in Bosnia again. Let’s prepare for it, and wait for them to try again.

I have not seen any signs of it beyond the Serbs being unrepentant and impermeable to learning any lessons from history. But they no longer have a tacit ally in the for of the UK giving them a fairly free hand in the region any more, and they have a lot more to lose in terms of trade.

276 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:54:19am

re: #270 CuriousLurker

She’s getting help characterizing the cancellation as being due to threats against Sunday school kids (WebCite link):

Apparently if “leftist” Jews & Muslims are involved, a peaceful demonstration immediately becomes a sinister & potentially violent “mob march”. Utter wingnut bullshit.

The Chewish Fress, as well as the Chewish Voice & Opinion, are wingnut extremist publications. Chewish Fress used to carry regular features by Kahane and his followers.

277 Jimmah  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:54:41am

And today the Wheel of Genocide stops at…The Balkans!

278 Destro  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:55:33am

re: #261 Sol Berdinowitz

re: #262 Pamela Gellar [sic(k)]

haha— hadn’t heard that one before! Almost as good as “Headless Body Found in Topless Bar”. :)

PLus one for “Headless boddy in topless bar” one of the most famous headlines ever.

279 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:55:35am
280 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:58:23am

re: #279 ProBosniaLiberal

Then what do you suggest? They quite clearly have not learned their lesson.

What do “I” suggest? How about WHAT DOES THE UN SUGGEST.

281 Destro  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 9:58:29am

re: #271 ProBosniaLiberal

The US and NATO.

The Serbians will try to purge and wipe out the Bosnians and Croats in Bosnia again. Let’s prepare for it, and wait for them to try again.

Last I heard, it was the Serb populations that were purged out of Croatia and Kosovo under NATO’s supervision. Though Croatia is trying to lure the Serbs back because it depopulated a third of it’s farm land when it did that.

282 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:02:34am
283 CuriousLurker  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:03:43am

re: #276 Vicious Babushka

The Chewish Fress, as well as the Chewish Voice & Opinion, are wingnut extremist publications. Chewish Fress used to carry regular features by Kahane and his followers.

Yeah, I run across them every once in a while.

284 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:03:50am

Someone else is going to be purged around here. Getting very weary of this.

285 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:04:29am

re: #270 CuriousLurker

She’s getting help characterizing the cancellation as being due to threats against Sunday school kids (WebCite link):

Apparently if “leftist” Jews & Muslims are involved, a peaceful demonstration immediately becomes a sinister & potentially violent “mob march” composed of thugs who would harm children. Utter wingnut bullshit.

Hey, CL. are you still here?

286 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:06:44am

re: #270 CuriousLurker

She’s getting help characterizing the cancellation as being due to threats against Sunday school kids (WebCite link):

Apparently if “leftist” Jews & Muslims are involved, a peaceful demonstration immediately becomes a sinister & potentially violent “mob march” composed of thugs who would harm children. Utter wingnut bullshit.

The Synagogue said absolutely nothing about any “threats.” They’re totally making this up out of thin air.

287 CuriousLurker  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:07:00am

re: #285 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Hey, CL. are you still here?

I’m still here—you guys aren’t gonna get rid of me that easily. //

Just been really busy with work. Haven’t even had much time to lurk lately.

288 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:07:01am

re: #270 CuriousLurker

She’s getting help characterizing the cancellation as being due to threats against Sunday school kids (WebCite link):

Apparently if “leftist” Jews & Muslims are involved, a peaceful demonstration immediately becomes a sinister & potentially violent “mob march” composed of thugs who would harm children. Utter wingnut bullshit.

One of the rabbis that invited Pam is a wingnut GOP activist. The other rabbi does not seem to have a political footprint, but suffered a massive heart attack a few months ago. I will give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he really is clueless about Pam and has no idea how toxic she is.

289 lawhawk  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:07:36am

RWers are busy complaining that the trial of Kermit Gosnell isn’t getting enough attention from the press because it somehow would somehow increase opposition to abortion.

Gosnell has been on trial in PA for multiple counts of murder - against the women who came to his office where he performed illegal late term abortions and botched procedures, allowing women to bleed out.

The trial’s descriptions of procedures are indeed brutal and one of the former employees copped a deal and is testifying against Gosnell:

Testifying under a plea agreement with prosecutors, Williams, 44, had told the Common Pleas Court jury of a time when she followed Gosnell’s practice of “snipping” the spines of late-term fetuses born alive during abortions.

One of her duties, Williams said, was to clean up and dispose of fetuses some women spontaneously aborted in the waiting room after getting large doses of drugs to dilate the cervix.

One day, Williams testified, a woman expelled a fetus into the toilet and she saw its arm moving. Williams said she took a pair of scissors and snipped the spine as Gosnell showed her.

“I did it once and I didn’t do it again because it gave me the creeps,” Williams said.

Back in the witness stand for a second day, Williams told McMahon that Gosnell reassured her that what she saw was “involuntary movement, a last breath” and that abortion drugs had already doomed the fetus.

“He told you that it was dead already,” said McMahon.

“Yes,” Williams said.

“So when you snipped the neck, you didn’t think it was a live baby, you thought you were snipping a dead baby?”

“Yes,” said Williams.

Prosecutors have argued that the babies were killed because Gosnell either did not use the drug Digoxin or did not administer it properly so that a live birth resulted and Gosnell allegedly killed them with scissors.

According to earlier trial testimony, after the U.S. Supreme Court affirmed a federal ban on the rare, so-called live-birth abortion procedure in 2007, late-term abortion providers like Gosnell switched to Digoxin, a heart drug, to kill the fetus in the womb.

Gosnell’s lawyers are claiming that the fetus were already dead when he carried out the procedure, but that’s not likely to sway the jury.

Gosnell’s atrocities were uncovered only after cops raided his offices in a pill-mill investigation. Turned out that he was carrying out illegal late term abortions and had patients die after his procedures in often unsanitary conditions.

After those reports surfaced, a wave of legislation began appearing calling for stricter restrictions on abortion clinics, including additional sanitary requirements - and in PA that resulted in several clinics shutting down to deal with compliance issues. In PA, it’s worth noting that the Department of Health and law enforcement didn’t do much in the way of preventing the clinic from operating until the pill-mill investigation, and didn’t take reports seriously that Gosnell was running a house of horrors.

So why did women go to Gosnell’s clinic in the first place? He offered a cheap alternative to Planned Parenthood and without the hassle of the protesters that often lined the street around those clinics.

290 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:08:13am

AN AFFRONT TO THE SECOND AMENDMENT!!!

A well-doobulated militia being necessary to the well being of a free state and all…

291 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:08:44am

re: #287 CuriousLurker

I’m still here—you guys aren’t gonna get rid of me that easily. //

Just been really busy with work. Haven’t even had much time to lurk lately.

Question for you. How do you find which WordPress file contains a specific feature?

292 CuriousLurker  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:09:04am

re: #286 Charles Johnson

The Synagogue said absolutely nothing about any “threats.” They’re totally making this up out of thin air.

Yeah, wingnuts making shit up—imagine my surprise. //

293 iossarian  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:09:16am

My work had its traditional baseball opening day potluck meal this week, which means I’ve been eating leftover hotdogs, cheesy potatoes and corn bread ever since.

So I could do with a good purge!

294 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:09:22am

DERP! Of course “ITZ ALL OBAMUZ FAULT!!11!!” not the ultimate results of 30 years of “trickle down economics”

295 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:09:51am

re: #270 CuriousLurker

She’s getting help characterizing the cancellation as being due to threats against Sunday school kids (WebCite link):

Apparently if “leftist” Jews & Muslims are involved, a peaceful demonstration immediately becomes a sinister & potentially violent “mob march” composed of thugs who would harm children. Utter wingnut bullshit.

Yeah it’s not that you have a toxic message and that you pal around with known fascists, it’s that ebil leftist Jews and Muslims threatened kids. Fucking nutcase lights a cigarette in a fire land acts shocked when there’s a chemical reaction.

296 Bulworth  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:11:53am

re: #294 Vicious Babushka


Wait, wingnuts care about unemployment now? Thought unemployed were lazy welfare takers?

297 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:12:40am

re: #296 Bulworth

Wait, wingnuts care about unemployment now? Thought unemployed were lazy welfare takers?

They don’t give a shit about unemployed people BUT OBAMA!!!!!11111

298 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:12:52am

There are currently EIGHT front page posts at Geller’s hate site raging and spewing insults about the cancellation.

299 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:12:54am

Time to change systems. BBL

300 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:12:58am

re: #296 Bulworth

Wait, wingnuts care about unemployment now? Thought unemployed were lazy welfare takers?

Only when it’s a means of attacking Obama. Le typical.

301 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:13:37am

re: #298 Charles Johnson

There are currently EIGHT front page posts at Geller’s hate site raging and spewing insults about the cancellation.

Happy Hour came early I guess or in this case Rage Hour.

302 CuriousLurker  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:14:28am

re: #291 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Question for you. How do you find which WordPress file contains a specific feature?

You don’t, not if you’re talking about the core functionality. Pretty much everything can be modified via WP functions that you add to your templates (or in some cases the functions.php file).

303 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:15:03am

*FACE PALM* *FACE PALM* *FACE PALM* *FACE PALM* *FACE PALM* *FACE PALM* *FACE PALM* *FACE PALM* *FACE PALM* *FACE PALM* *FACE PALM*

DOV YOU SUCK

304 Gus  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:16:32am

re: #303 Vicious Babushka

*FACE PALM* *FACE PALM* *FACE PALM* *FACE PALM* *FACE PALM* *FACE PALM* *FACE PALM* *FACE PALM* *FACE PALM* *FACE PALM* *FACE PALM*

DOV YOU SUCK

Will Dov be appearing in black face?

305 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:16:53am

re: #304 Gus

Will Dov be appearing in black face?

BWAHAHAA!

306 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:17:04am

re: #235 Decatur Deb

Everyone understands that you are talking about two completely different things called ‘poll tax’, m’right?

Just reposting a link to clarify my opinion that “poll tax” in the UK and “poll tax” in the US have generally different meanings at this point in history and the the UK version is not at its core a disenfranchisement attempt.

en.wikipedia.org

(Solely my error in attaching it before to a comment that was later deleted due to my comment quoting an earlier comment that stupidly advocated murder as a means to a political end.)

307 lawhawk  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:17:19am

re: #303 Vicious Babushka

308 lawhawk  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:17:57am

re: #298 Charles Johnson

Hategasm.

309 Kragar  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:20:36am

Beck: ‘I Have a Feeling We’re Headed for a Monarchy’

On Tuesday evening, the President and the First Lady hosted the latest “In Performance at the White House” event which consisted of a tribute to Memphis soul music.

And Glenn Beck was reasonably outraged about it on last night’s program, demanding to know why the Obama’s are living like royalty when global economic and social collapse is imminent. Beck even posted paintings of Barack and Michelle dressed like Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette while warning that “we’re headed for a monarchy,” only this time “maybe Marie Antoinette and King Louis keep their heads while all of their subjects lose theirs”:

310 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:21:04am

re: #308 lawhawk

Hategasm.

Is that what you get when you refine an oregasm in the fires of inhumanity?

311 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:21:07am

DERP. THANKS LOADS PAM.

312 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:21:45am
313 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:22:00am

re: #309 Kragar

Beck: ‘I Have a Feeling We’re Headed for a Monarchy’

Bourbons liked Memphis soul music? Learn something new everyday.

314 Kragar  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:25:21am

Coulter: The killing of politicians’ children should ‘start with Meghan McCain’

Bashir suggested that members of Congress should not have to experience the death of a family member to understand that gun violence was a problem.

“But Congressman, is that what needs to happen to move these senators to stop threatening a filibuster?” Bashir asked. “Is that really what needs to happen? That you need to have a member of your family killed in order for you to do what the American people want you to do?”

Conservative websites interpreted Bashir’s statement to mean that he was advocating the murder of politicians’ family members.

And on Thursday, Coulter decided it would be funny to suggest the daughter of Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) should be the first to die.

“MSNBC’s Martin Bashir suggested that Republican senators need to have a member of their families killed for them to support the Democrats’ gun proposals,” Coulter wrote. “Let’s start with Meghan McCain!”

315 Lidane  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:26:52am

GOP rebranding:

316 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:26:55am

re: #314 Kragar

Coulter: The killing of politicians’ children should ‘start with Meghan McCain’

Behold, someone who may be more demented than Pam Geller.

317 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:27:30am

re: #313 HappyWarrior

Bourbons liked Memphis soul music? Learn something new everyday.

Tennesee Bourbon…

318 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:29:21am

re: #317 Sol Berdinowitz

Tennesee Bourbon…

Why yes but I just have a hard time imagine Louie and Marie enjoying it.

319 Kragar  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:30:52am

Rand Paul and the Sweet Smell of Your Own Crap

The gist of what happened yesterday was that Paul took this clown show to an audience at an historically black college where, yeah, they actually do know that Lincoln freed the slaves and that Frederick Douglass was a Republican. And they’ve even heard about the Dixiecrats. After I reading Benjy Sarlin’s account I was surprised Paul didn’t introduce himself by thanking the crowd for welcoming him to the ‘Democrat Party Plantation.’

Rand’s surprise was akin to one of those old Buggs Bunny cartoons when Buggs’ nemesis walks over a loose floorboard and the board flies up and whaps the guy right in the face. You can become so lost in your own story that you confuse your conciliation with your aggression. The GOP is so deep into its own self-justifying racial alternative reality that there’s some genuine surprise when the claptrap doesn’t survive first contact with actual black people.

320 Bulworth  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:32:22am
Coulter decided it would be funny to suggest….

Ah, I think I’ve spotted the problem.

321 Gus  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:33:10am

re: #314 Kragar

Coulter: The killing of politicians’ children should ‘start with Meghan McCain’

322 Bulworth  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:33:44am

re: #309 Kragar

Does the monarchy come before or after the FEMA death panel trailer camps? ///

323 AlexRogan  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:34:05am

re: #317 Sol Berdinowitz

Tennesee Bourbon…

No, it’s Kentucky Bourbon and Tennessee Whiskey (even though it is legally classed as ‘bourbon’, but rarely put on the label).

324 iossarian  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:34:37am

re: #322 Bulworth

Does the monarchy come before or after the FEMA death panel trailer camps? ///

When crowns are made of tinfoil, every right-winger shall be king!

325 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:35:10am

re: #323 AlexRogan

No, it’s Kentucky Bourbon, Tennessee Whiskey (even though it is legally classed as ‘bourbon’, but rarely put on the label).

That’s right. Me I prefer Mr. Beam to Mr. Daniel.

326 Bulworth  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:35:37am
Beck: ‘I Have a Feeling…

Anything that comes after that statement is bound to be full of deranged.

327 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:36:10am

re: #325 HappyWarrior

That’s right. Me I prefer Mr. Beam to Mr. Daniel.

Jim and Jack are anarchists though.

328 Kragar  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:36:48am

Poll: One in Three Americans Support Establishing Christianity As Their Official State Religion

Following up on a failed effort by eleven North Carolina lawmakers to declare that their state can ignore the Constitution’s ban on government establishments of religion, a Huffington Post/YouGov poll finds that just over one in three American adults would actually support making Christianity their state’s official faith. The same poll shows that only 11 percent of the country incorrectly believes that the Constitution would permit such an outcome.

Madness.

329 Lidane  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:38:30am

ZOMG LIBRUL PLANTS! IT’S JUST LIKE WATERGATE!

330 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:40:02am

re: #328 Kragar

Poll: One in Three Americans Support Establishing Christianity As Their Official State Religion

Madness.

And that’s a pretty weak tea poll since it completely ignores the fact that “Christianity” is a catch-all category for a monstrous spectrum of sects within that umbrella. Make that poll specify the flavor to be enforced and you’d possibly get some interesting results.

331 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:41:18am

re: #328 Kragar

Poll: One in Three Americans Support Establishing Christianity As Their Official State Religion

Madness.

If you make Christianity the official religion, you’d inevitably find people who would want their brand of Christianity whether it’s Catholicism, Methodism, Baptist, etc to be the official. It’s not only unconstitutional but it’s just a bad idea.

332 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:41:55am

re: #302 CuriousLurker

You don’t, not if you’re talking about the core functionality. Pretty much everything can be modified via WP functions that you add to your templates (or in some cases the functions.php file).

I guess what I’m asking is how do you identify the component on the screen so you can add CSS, HTML or PHP code regarding it to the child-theme or plugin?

Do you use a specific app like Firebug? Do you search for it through the CSS or PHP files? Or some other method?

333 Kragar  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:42:49am

re: #330 Feline Fearless Leader

I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump off. So I ran over and said “Stop! don’t do it!”

“Why shouldn’t I?” he said. I said, “Well, there’s so much to live for!”

He said, “Like what?” I said, “Well…are you religious or atheist?”

He said, “Religious.” I said, “Me too! Are you christian or buddhist?”

He said, “Christian.” I said, “Me too! Are you catholic or protestant?”

He said, “Protestant.” I said, “Me too! Are you episcopalian or baptist?”

He said, “Baptist!” I said,”Wow! Me too! Are you baptist church of god or baptist church of the lord?”

He said, “Baptist church of god!” I said, “Me too! Are you original baptist church of god, or are you reformed baptist church of god?”

He said,”Reformed Baptist church of god!” I said, “Me too! Are you reformed baptist church of god, reformation of 1879, or reformed baptist church of god, reformation of 1915?”

He said, “Reformed baptist church of god, reformation of 1915!”

I said, “Die, heretic scum”, and pushed him off.

334 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:44:52am

re: #333 Kragar

I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump off. So I ran over and said “Stop! don’t do it!”

“Why shouldn’t I?” he said. I said, “Well, there’s so much to live for!”

He said, “Like what?” I said, “Well…are you religious or atheist?”

He said, “Religious.” I said, “Me too! Are you christian or buddhist?”

He said, “Christian.” I said, “Me too! Are you catholic or protestant?”

He said, “Protestant.” I said, “Me too! Are you episcopalian or baptist?”

He said, “Baptist!” I said,”Wow! Me too! Are you baptist church of god or baptist church of the lord?”

He said, “Baptist church of god!” I said, “Me too! Are you original baptist church of god, or are you reformed baptist church of god?”

He said,”Reformed Baptist church of god!” I said, “Me too! Are you reformed baptist church of god, reformation of 1879, or reformed baptist church of god, reformation of 1915?”

He said, “Reformed baptist church of god, reformation of 1915!”

I said, “Die, heretic scum”, and pushed him off.

Someone should make a “choose your own” tree for that joke so that you can plug in any religious denomination.

335 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:45:29am

re: #316 HappyWarrior

Behold, someone who may be more demented than Pam Geller.

Not demented more or less, just slightly differently.

336 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:46:57am

re: #335 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Not demented more or less, just slightly differently.

Ah true. I do appreciate Coulter reminding us that Pam doesn’t have a monopoly on lunacy though.

337 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:47:03am

re: #322 Bulworth

Does the monarchy come before or after the FEMA death panel trailer camps? ///

You don’t have a copy of the schedule?

338 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:47:48am

re: #333 Kragar

I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump off. So I ran over and said “Stop! don’t do it!”

“Why shouldn’t I?” he said. I said, “Well, there’s so much to live for!”

He said, “Like what?” I said, “Well…are you religious or atheist?”

He said, “Religious.” I said, “Me too! Are you christian or buddhist?”

He said, “Christian.” I said, “Me too! Are you catholic or protestant?”

He said, “Protestant.” I said, “Me too! Are you episcopalian or baptist?”

He said, “Baptist!” I said,”Wow! Me too! Are you baptist church of god or baptist church of the lord?”

He said, “Baptist church of god!” I said, “Me too! Are you original baptist church of god, or are you reformed baptist church of god?”

He said,”Reformed Baptist church of god!” I said, “Me too! Are you reformed baptist church of god, reformation of 1879, or reformed baptist church of god, reformation of 1915?”

He said, “Reformed baptist church of god, reformation of 1915!”

I said, “Die, heretic scum”, and pushed him off.

It’s funny cuz it’s true.

339 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:55:22am

re: #330 Feline Fearless Leader

And that’s a pretty weak tea poll since it completely ignores the fact that “Christianity” is a catch-all category for a monstrous spectrum of sects within that umbrella. Make that poll specify the flavor to be enforced and you’d possibly get some interesting results.

Do not expect much overlap between religion and (fundamentalist) religion.

We are starting to see the failings of our school system in teaching civics, history and basic logic.

340 Lidane  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 10:56:23am

re: #314 Kragar

Coulter: The killing of politicians’ children should ‘start with Meghan McCain’

341 iossarian  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 11:02:05am

re: #340 Lidane

I’m not all about Meghan McCain but that’s a pretty good response to Coulter’s bullshit.

342 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 11:02:56am

re: #340 Lidane

She’s a good person. I think sometimes she’s delusional about her and her father’s party but she’s not a hateful psycho like Coulter is either. Pretty pathetic that Coulter is so bothered by her.

343 CuriousLurker  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 11:04:03am

re: #332 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

I guess what I’m asking is how do you identify the component on the screen so you can add CSS, HTML or PHP code regarding it to the child-theme or plugin?

Do you use a specific app like Firebug? Do you search for it through the CSS or PHP files? Or some other method?

I use both Firebug & the Web Developer add-on.

344 Jolo5309  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 11:55:36am

re: #132 BongCrodny

I love Fringe. In the history of TV, there’s maybe only a half-dozen science-fiction themed series I’d rank above it, and it baffles me to this day why people gave up on it.

For anyone interested, Netflix now has seasons 1-4 available for streaming.

My wife watched it, I gave it a couple of episodes and then decided I had better things to do with my time.

345 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 12:31:24pm

re: #343 CuriousLurker

I use both Firebug & the Web Developer add-on.

Thanks.

Sorry for the delay. I got pulled away by a customer in crisis.O_o

346 GunstarGreen  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 1:06:26pm

re: #328 Kragar

Poll: One in Three Americans Support Establishing Christianity As Their Official State Religion

Madness.

I keep saying it, and it keeps having to be repeated as people continually express disbelief or surprise with this sort of thing: For these people, it is a holy war of the Christian faith vs. heresy. They cannot be reasoned or compromised with because as far as they are concerned, the only way to save the country from divine retribution is to institute Christianity as the state religion and to base our laws on their book.

They do not approach abortion or gay marriage or any other social issue from the angle of what is just or fair or equal. They do not see it as an issue of an individual’s rights under the law. They approach from the angle of “The Bible says it is wrong therefore it should be illegal”. There is no room for debate, reason, or convincing. Not even the constitution matters, because The Bible is above the constitution as far as they are concerned — God’s law is superior to man’s law.

As long as they are entertained by people that are afraid to stand up for actual freedom, this will continue. Adults with imaginary friends are considered strange and probably a bit mentally unhealthy, unless they point to The Bible and say they got it from that book.


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