Gov. Bobby “Don’t Be Stupid” Jindal Comes Out in Favor of Teaching Creationism in Public Schools

What Republican war on science?
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Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal is on the defensive; his far right social agenda has been soundly rejected by voters, and his popularity has imploded as the public understands exactly what Jindal has been trying to pull. And yesterday he gave an interview that made it even clearer: despite his talk about “moderation,” Bobby Jindal is just as much of a religious fanatic reactionary as any other Republican: Jindal Defends School Vouchers in NBC Interview.

I believe this is the first time Jindal has come right out and said he’s in favor of teaching creationism in public schools, although it’s been obvious from his political agenda. This is the GOP “reformer” — just another anti-science caveman.

In a way I’m glad to see him finally dropping all the pretense and openly admitting what his voucher program is intended to do: put right wing religious mythology on an equal footing with modern science, and instill government-sanctioned ignorance in the children of Louisiana. It’s nauseating, but at least it’s now out in the open.

Jindal also said he has no problem with creationism being taught in public schools as long as a local school board OK’s it. Since the state is committed to national academic standards, he said, as long as schools are teaching evolution they should be allowed to teach other theories as well. “What are we scared of?” he said. “Let (students) debate and learn … give them critical thinking skills.”

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193 comments
1 Iwouldprefernotto  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 11:32:14am

Other theories? Like Scientology?

2 aagcobb  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 11:36:04am

Imagine how stupid the GOP has to be for this guy to think its the stupid party.

3 AntonSirius  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 11:41:22am

re: #1 Iwouldprefernotto

Other theories? Like Scientology?

Lamarckian transmutation

4 Skip Intro  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 11:41:42am
Since the state is committed to national academic standards, he said, as long as schools are teaching evolution they should be allowed to teach other theories as well.

For the 1,000th time, Bobby, there is no such thing as the “theory of Creationism”.

It is 100% faith based, and as such has no place in a science curriculum in any country in the 21st - or any other - century.

5 HoosierHoops  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 11:41:58am

A must read on teaching science in the classroom.
Wall Street Journal Editorial Board Member Gets Schooled on Science Funding.

slate.com

6 Lidane  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 11:48:13am

Creationism = a shining example of scientific illiteracy. It’s right there with homeopathy, anti-vax paranoia, and chemtrails.

It’s not a competing theory with evolution. It’s magical thinking and fantasy.

7 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 11:54:46am

The Social Conservatives keep threatening to take their ball and go home (and form their own party) if the Republicans don’t follow their edicts in lockstep.

I dream that the Republicans will grow a spine and tell the SoCons to pound sand. But they won’t and we will be stuck with a political party being strangled by people afraid of change, and a country being gridlocked by a party determined to make sure America fails so they can regain power.

The day we get a rational conservative leaning party, is the day America will begin moving forward again.

8 Political Atheist  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 11:57:58am

Sorry if this is a bit repetitive but it’s too relevant to not post again.

One name to remember. Zack Kopplin

huffingtonpost.com

You know what I like about him besides the obvious? He makes no complaint about faith, or it’s doctrine or it’s adherents in the right place and time. He just wants science to rule in places of learning that are secular. I applaud his point and his style.

9 122 Year Old Obama  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 11:58:47am

Republican rebranding!

10 Kronocide  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 12:02:38pm
“Let (students) debate and learn … give them critical thinking skills.”

Orwell is spinning in his grave.

11 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 12:12:13pm

Allen West is leading the fight against the radical Left—says so right at the top of the page. Wants us to join today.

13 stabby  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 12:17:53pm

re: #2 aagcobb

Imagine how stupid the GOP has to be for this guy to think its the stupid party.

If that doesn’t become the most updinged comment of the day I’ll be disappointed in you guys.

14 Kragar  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 12:19:56pm

How about supporting the teaching of Alchemy and the medicinal value of treppaning while he’s at it?

15 bratwurst  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 12:24:35pm

re: #14 Kragar

How about supporting the teaching of Alchemy and the medicinal value of treppaning while he’s at it?

TEACH THE CONTROVERSY!

16 Kronocide  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 12:25:25pm
Dousing vs Hydrology: Teach the Debate
17 elizajane  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 12:31:24pm

I am all for teaching the controversy between religion and science. In History class, where it belongs.

18 Skip Intro  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 12:32:57pm

Why should this just be limited to science? How about law?

Trial by ordeal worked well for our ancestors before we disobeyed God and went to the Satanic system of trial by jury.

Ordeal by fire and water, ordeal by ingestion, by boiling oil, and by poison. These should be taught in LA law schools too.

After all, as Bobby says, “What are we scared of?; Let (students) debate and learn … give them critical thinking skills.”

19 Kid A  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 12:37:14pm

Flat earth v round earth. Teach the controversy.

20 Kid A  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 12:37:59pm

Brain needing oxygen to survive; no life form can survive without water. Teach the controversy.

21 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 12:44:50pm

Greedo shot first.
Teach the controversy!

22 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 12:46:40pm

re: #5 HoosierHoops

A must read on teaching science in the classroom.
Wall Street Journal Editorial Board Member Gets Schooled on Science Funding.

slate.com

Also of note is that the snail is being studied because it carries a parasite that can and has killed children.

23 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 12:53:44pm

re: #22 Varek Raith

Also of note is that the snail is being studied because it carries a parasite that can and has killed children.

nsf.gov
Bam!

24 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 12:57:20pm

re: #1 Iwouldprefernotto

Other theories? Like Scientology?

Lysenko and Determinism

25 darthstar  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:07:28pm
26 jaunte  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:07:50pm

re: #5 HoosierHoops

“…It’s an uphill climb, to be sure; the forces of antiscience are strong and loud. One of them is the Wall Street Journal, which frequently publishes ridiculous OpEds baselessly denying global warming. Stephen Moore is on the editorial board for the WSJ, and, as you’ll see, another person who doesn’t understand why we need to fund science.

Moore was on “Real Time with Bill Maher” recently, sitting with none other than Zack Kopplin. Moore talked about “wasting money” on science research, and Kopplin rhetorically handed him his head at the 1:10 mark…”slate.com

As a bonus, Stephen Moore has one of the most gratingly annoying voices on television.

27 darthstar  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:08:55pm

Jindal just wants people to save some of the stupid for him.

28 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:09:53pm
From my laundry folding tiredly
I glance out the window past the blinds
Big fluffy snowflakes are gently
Falling on the old white pines

If it were December, it’d be a cheer.
It’s April though and I just want to jeer.

Sorry for the doggerel, but it did just sort of happen that way. I am so ready for spring and a chance to grab my field camera and go.

29 Eventual Carrion  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:15:36pm

re: #24 Sol Berdinowitz

Lysenko and Determinism

Lycans vs Vampires

30 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:18:14pm

A Republican who stood with Michael Bloomberg got caught with his pants down this past week:

A member of “Mayors Against Illegal Guns” arrested for firing handgun at 20-year male during sexual encounter.

31 DO WINGNUT WORDS SHOW THEY EVOLVED BRAINS?11!!  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:20:47pm

Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don’t.
Teach the controversy!!11!!1

32 darthstar  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:21:51pm

re: #30 Dark_Falcon

A Republican who stood with Michael Bloomberg got caught with his pants down this past week:

Link

Bad link but I fixed it in my quote. And let this be a lesson to you about letting someone else clean your barrel.

33 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:24:15pm

re: #32 darthstar

Bad link but I fixed it in my quote. And let this be a lesson to you about letting someone else clean your barrel.

Thanks for letting me know. I fixed the link.

34 darthstar  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:24:58pm

FYI, if they build the Keystone XL pipleline, it’ll create thousands of jobs when it ruptures.

35 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:27:06pm

re: #34 darthstar

FYI, if they build the Keystone XL pipleline, it’ll create thousands of jobs when it ruptures.

So lets use high-grade pipes that won’t rupture. I’ll even go you one better and mandate they be US-made (since nothing made in China should be trusted with a job like this).

36 aagcobb  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:29:46pm

re: #5 HoosierHoops

A must read on teaching science in the classroom.
Wall Street Journal Editorial Board Member Gets Schooled on Science Funding.

slate.com

Pretty stunning that someone allowed on the editorial board of the Wall Street Journal thinks scientific research is a waste of money. Ever hear if Google? How about Microsoft, or Apple? Or the pharmaceutical industry?

37 darthstar  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:31:36pm

re: #35 Dark_Falcon

So lets use high-grade pipes that won’t rupture. I’ll even go you one better and mandate they be US-made (since nothing made in China should be trusted with a job like this).

There’s no such thing. Imperfections happen. Never mind how toxic the process of converting solid matter into something barely liquid enough to pump out of the ground itself is. And we’ve got four bitumen spills in the US already that are multi-year clean-up projects. They’re using the same strategies for those that they do for light crude spills on the ocean. And it doesn’t work. Keystone XL is about as well thought out as the Romney campaign for President was. A clusterfuck of epic proportions in the making.

38 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:31:59pm

re: #32 darthstar

Bad link but I fixed it in my quote. And let this be a lesson to you about letting someone else clean your barrel.

Red card.

39 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:32:10pm

re: #35 Dark_Falcon

So lets use high-grade pipes that won’t rupture. I’ll even go you one better and mandate they be US-made (since nothing made in China should be trusted with a job like this).

They will pay for and order high-grade pipes, but how will they discover what they are getting until one ruptures and they discover that that it was sub-grade materials and the contractors have long since disappeared?

You really have too much faith in the ability of our captains of industry to think far beyond anything but their short-term, personal interests.

Was listening to another discussion today about how limiting banker’s bonuses would damage the finance industriy’s ability to attract top talent.

All it does in increase their attraction to people who think in terms of making as much money as possible and then f*ckling off before it blows up in their faces.

40 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:33:52pm

Our oil cleanup tech is still in the 70’s.
Our tarsands cleanup tech is nonexistent.

41 Iwouldprefernotto  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:34:00pm

re: #36 aagcobb

Pretty stunning that someone allowed on the editorial board of the Wall Street Journal thinks scientific research is a waste of money. Ever hear if Google? How about Microsoft, or Apple? Or the pharmaceutical industry?

How about the entire Internet — started out as a DOD research project. Probably more than paid for decades of other research???

42 Bear  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:34:43pm

re: #35 Dark_Falcon

Good idea about US made pipe. But I doubt there is any mill in the US now that could make the pipe needed. Was not the pipe used in building the Alaska pipe line made in the Orient?

43 allegro  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:35:37pm

re: #36 aagcobb

Pretty stunning that someone allowed on the editorial board of the Wall Street Journal thinks scientific research is a waste of money. Ever hear if Google? How about Microsoft, or Apple? Or the pharmaceutical industry?

It’s spin-offs from the research as well, for instance the space industry. Research into space exploration has given us such wonders as Teflon, superglue, and space blankets - stuff with valuable everyday applications. And Tang, can’t forget Tang.

44 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:38:08pm

I’ve been out-of-town for a couple of days.

did you miss me?

LOL

How is everyone?

45 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:39:35pm

re: #42 Bear

Good idea about US made pipe. But I doubt there is any mill in the US now that could make the pipe needed. Was not the pipe used in building the Alaska pipe line made in the Orient?

Then build out the facilities at an existing mill. The president should just make it public: “I’ll let this pipeline be built, but only if we use US pipe [though I permit some percentage of the steel products to be sourced from Canada]. I’m requiring this so that quality control can be assured and that in the event of a spill caused by faulty steel, the accountable parties will not be able to evade responsibility.”

This a case where I’ll actually support Barack Obama leveling a mandate.
Upding me, please.

46 darthstar  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:39:37pm

re: #44 FemNaziBitch

I’ve been out-of-town for a couple of days.

did you miss me?

LOL

How is everyone?

I skied for a couple of hours, had a beer and some French onion soup, and now I’m ready for a nap.

47 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:39:54pm

re: #36 aagcobb

Pretty stunning that someone allowed on the editorial board of the Wall Street Journal thinks scientific research is a waste of money. Ever hear if Google? How about Microsoft, or Apple? Or the pharmaceutical industry?

It is starting to take an ugly turn, but the basic problem is this: if you believe in a literalist interpretation of the Bible, you must reject science.

In fact, you must reject logic, as there are many passages in the Bible that contradict themselves.

There is not much you can do with people like that except to try and limit the amount of damage they can do to education and public policy.

48 wrenchwench  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:40:04pm
49 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:40:05pm

I was inundated with Fox News the whole time.

One tidbit I gleaned —Sarbanes-Oxley didn’t work and just cost taxpayer money and the same goes for Dodd-Frank.

50 Stanley Sea  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:41:27pm

re: #45 Dark_Falcon

Then build out the facilities at an existing mill. The president should just make it public: “I’ll let this pipeline be built, but only if we use US pipe [though I permit some percentage of the steel products to be sourced from Canada]. I’m requiring this so that quality control can be assured and that in the event of a spill caused by faulty steel, the accountable parties will not be able to evade responsibility.”

This a case where I’ll actually support Barack Obama leveling a mandate.
Upding me, please.

Sure, why not. It’s the weekend, I’m happy.

51 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:41:53pm

This was on my fb, I had to share.

Proof that Michele Bachmann is batshit crazy. Not that it was needed. I also paged it.

52 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:43:31pm

re: #46 darthstar

I skied for a couple of hours, had a beer and some French onion soup, and now I’m ready for a nap.

I love French Onion Soup, but I’ve had to largely give it up to cut costs.

53 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:43:43pm

re: #45 Dark_Falcon

Then build out the facilities at an existing mill. The president should just make it public: “I’ll let this pipeline be built, but only if we use US pipe [though I permit some percentage of the steel products to be sourced from Canada]. I’m requiring this so that quality control can be assured and that in the event of a spill caused by faulty steel, the accountable parties will not be able to evade responsibility.”

This a case where I’ll actually support Barack Obama leveling a mandate.
Upding me, please.

No.

54 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:45:16pm
55 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:45:35pm

re: #53 Varek Raith

No.

;)

56 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:45:35pm
57 darthstar  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:47:52pm

re: #52 Dark_Falcon

I love French Onion Soup, but I’ve had to largely give it up to cut costs.

Buy an onion or three, some beef broth a little butter, and some bread and maybe some mozzarella. Carmelize onions in butter, add some beef broth, float a piece of toast in it with cheese on top and bake. Should cost less than $10.

58 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:48:43pm

re: #57 darthstar

Buy an onion or three, some beef broth a little butter, and some bread and maybe some mozzarella. Carmelize onions in butter, add some beef broth, float a piece of toast in it with cheese on top and bake. Should cost less than $10.

That was one of the first things I learned to make as a bachelor.

59 Stanley Sea  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:49:22pm

re: #57 darthstar

Buy an onion or three, some beef broth a little butter, and some bread and maybe some mozzarella. Carmelize onions in butter, add some beef broth, float a piece of toast in it with cheese on top and bake. Should cost less than $10.

Yeah, skip the gruyere!!

60 darthstar  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:51:11pm

re: #59 Stanley Sea

Yeah, skip the gruyere!!

Gruyere, yes, but keeping it cheap and easy…besides, Gruyere sounds French and that scares Republicans.

61 darthstar  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:52:47pm

This guy was also probably cleaning his gun when it went off.

Image: 561440_567730099913973_1143211834_n.png

62 bubba zanetti  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:53:30pm

re: #59 Stanley Sea

Yeah, skip the gruyere!!

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo

63 Stanley Sea  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:54:58pm

So I splurged and ordered these online. 37.00 for three cans & shipping.

Madagascar green peppercorns from France

My dad used to buy at the grocery store, no more. And make Madagascar filets: filet mignon & chicken breast with a green peppercorn sauce.

I’m going to repeat. My dog I remember it being so good.

64 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:57:39pm

re: #18 Skip Intro

Why should this just be limited to science? How about law?

Trial by ordeal worked well for our ancestors before we disobeyed God and went to the Satanic system of trial by jury.

Ordeal by fire and water, ordeal by ingestion, by boiling oil, and by poison. These should be taught in LA law schools too.

After all, as Bobby says, “What are we scared of?; Let (students) debate and learn … give them critical thinking skills.”

IIRC, they are passing or are trying to pass a blasphemy law in Russia.

All because some uppity women decided to protest.

65 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:59:23pm

re: #64 FemNaziBitch

IIRC, they are passing or are trying to pass a blasphemy law in Russia.

Good grief.

66 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 2:00:29pm

re: #65 Varek Raith

Good grief.

That would be a bit of a 180—no?

67 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 2:01:18pm

re: #51 FemNaziBitch

This was on my fb, I had to share.

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Proof that Michele Bachmann is batshit crazy. Not that it was needed. I also paged it.

When she looks at the camera all I can picture is this:

68 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 2:03:47pm

re: #54 Varek Raith

I’d fly that.
Image: 322c9d29-db56-4f12-8e81-30505459d9c4.jpg

How would you like one of these?

69 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 2:05:16pm

re: #68 Dark_Falcon

How would you like one of these?

I dunno, the Kestrel has missiles.
Lots o missiles…

70 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 2:05:56pm

In case anyone is wondering, while in my 4 day immersion in the Roger Ailes World, I learned that:

-Beyonce and Jay-Z went to Cuba and I don’t give a shit;
-North Korea is causing their legs to tingle;
-The Christian Minister, Mike Huckabee cannot ever forgive and thinks no one else should ever forgive Jane Fonda and it is outrageous she is portraying Nancy Reagan in a biopic.
-Everything Obama does is wrong
-Mel Brooks is going to be very politically incorrect on some special that is going to be aired on Fox.

Yeah, that was the line-up for the past 4 days. I swear they just repeat everything with ever more evocative language and sell advertising time.

71 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 2:08:56pm

re: #67 Dark_Falcon

When she looks at the camera all I can picture is this:

[Embedded content]

She had glamour make-up on —false eyelashes. Totally FOXIFIED!

Sad, she used to do some good work for children. Foster care law and stuff, as I remember. She’s totally gone off the deep end.

72 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 2:10:25pm

re: #51 FemNaziBitch

This was on my fb, I had to share.

[Embedded content]

Proof that Michele Bachmann is batshit crazy. Not that it was needed. I also paged it.

Brilliant performance to her base constituency. All they hear is “blablabl WHITE HOUSE bla bla bla DRONE STRIKE bla blabla BENGHAZI bla blabla 9/11.”

And that is all they want to hear.

73 Stanley Sea  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 2:11:20pm

re: #70 FemNaziBitch

In case anyone is wondering, while in my 4 day immersion in the Roger Ailes World, I learned that:

-Beyonce and Jay-Z went to Cuba and I don’t give a shit;
-North Korea is causing their legs to tingle;
-The Christian Minister, Mike Huckabee cannot ever forgive and thinks no one else should ever forgive Jane Fonda and it is outrageous she is portraying Nancy Reagan in a biopic.
-Everything Obama does is wrong
-Mel Brooks is going to be very politically incorrect on some special that is going to be aired on Fox.

Yeah, that was the line-up for the past 4 days. I swear they just repeat everything with ever more evocative language and sell advertising time.

Jane Fonda playing Nancy Reagan! Oh that makes my day.

74 AlexRogan  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 2:12:33pm

re: #70 FemNaziBitch

In case anyone is wondering, while in my 4 day immersion in the Roger Ailes World, I learned that:

-Beyonce and Jay-Z went to Cuba and I don’t give a shit;
-North Korea is causing their legs to tingle;
-The Christian Minister, Mike Huckabee cannot ever forgive and thinks no one else should ever forgive Jane Fonda and it is outrageous she is portraying Nancy Reagan in a biopic.
-Everything Obama does is wrong
-Mel Brooks is going to be very politically incorrect on some special that is going to be aired on Fox.

Yeah, that was the line-up for the past 4 days. I swear they just repeat everything with ever more evocative language and sell advertising time.

Wha???

75 engineer cat  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 2:12:47pm

Gov. Bobby “Don’t Be Stupid”

i have no doubt that his office has been receiving many apoplectic letters excoriating him for being insufficiently stupid

76 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 2:15:41pm

re: #74 AlexRogan

Yeah, pretty sure it’s Mel Brooks.

Oh, yeah, Dick Morris is now peddling some anti-Obama Care book. That was advertised quite a bit.

77 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 2:17:10pm

re: #73 Stanley Sea

Jane Fonda playing Nancy Reagan! Oh that makes my day.

I’m not thrilled, but I reserve judgement until the biopic is released. I want to see how she portrays Nancy Reagan before rendering judgement.

78 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 2:19:40pm

re: #76 FemNaziBitch

Yeah, pretty sure it’s Mel Brooks.

Oh, yeah, Dick Morris is now peddling some anti-Obama Care book. That was advertised quite a bit.

I’m surprised Ailes let Morris back on the air to plug his book, after Morris screwed up by the numbers on FNC last year.

Note: “Screwed up” is the milder way to put it, which is appropriate when replying to a lady.

79 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 2:21:21pm

re: #78 Dark_Falcon

I’m surprised Ailes let Morris back on the air to plug his book, after Morris screwed up by the numbers on FNC last year.

Note: “Screwed up” is the milder way to put it, which is appropriate when replying to a lady.

I could be wrong. I’m not going to the fox site to figure it out. I don’t think anyone really cares anyway. I know I don’t.

80 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 2:22:46pm

ANd OMG, Pope Francis is going to call some sort of Vatican III that seems to be a big deal. I think Fox is really the Catholic Channel sometimes.

81 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 2:23:08pm

re: #79 FemNaziBitch

I could be wrong. I’m not going to the fox site to figure it out. I don’t think anyone really cares anyway. I know I don’t.

I only care in a “Don’t be a Dick!” sense.

82 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 2:24:40pm

the Jane Fonda thing made me wonder a bit. I mean, we have a relationship with Vietnam now. A lot of time has passed. If a young naive man did what she did and apologized when they grew-up, would he be forgiven?

How much of the outrage is that she was and is an outspoken woman?

83 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 2:24:40pm

re: #77 Dark_Falcon

I’m not thrilled, but I reserve judgement until the biopic is released. I want to see how she portrays Nancy Reagan before rendering judgement.

Then you are not a True Conservative. Anything with Hanoi Jane in it deserves condemnation without the need to see it at all.

/

84 Kragar  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 2:26:06pm

re: #83 Sol Berdinowitz

Then you are not a True Conservative. Anything with Hanoi Jane in it deserves condemnation without the need to see it at all.

/

Barbarella with the volume turned off?

85 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 2:26:59pm

re: #80 FemNaziBitch

ANd OMG, Pope Francis is going to call some sort of Vatican III that seems to be a big deal. I think Fox is really the Catholic Channel sometimes.

If the Pope is planning to call a Council of the Catholic Church, then that is a very big deal. The Catholic Church has a great deal of social and, even today, political importance in the world. The course it plots is a major issue.

86 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 2:28:51pm

re: #85 Dark_Falcon

If the Pope is planning to call a Council of the Catholic Church, then that is a very big deal. The Catholic Church has a great deal of social and, even today, political importance in the world. The course it plots is a major issue.

I’ll give you a prediction.

Priests will not be allowed to marry
Women will not be allowed to use chemical contraception
LBGT community will not be allowed to marry
Women will not be allowed to be ordained.

This meeting is about money. The only thing the Church truly cares about.

87 Amory Blaine  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 2:31:01pm

Applied critical thinking skills will boot Jindal out of office. I hold my breath.

88 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 2:32:02pm

re: #83 Sol Berdinowitz

Then you are not a True Conservative. Anything with Hanoi Jane in it deserves condemnation without the need to see it at all.

/

Oh, I’ll never fullly respect her as a person after what she did in Hanoi. But it’s like Janine Garafalo playing an FBI agent on 24 :
She’s an actress, and the role Jane Fonda is cast in does not mean the picture is doomed to be a flop. It is possible that Fonda will accurately portray someone who believe in different things than her, and if she does so then she will have earned a modicum of respect from me. Because I respect skill and professionalism.

89 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 2:32:08pm

ah, gotta go,

Have a great afternoon all!

90 Stanley Sea  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 2:37:10pm

re: #88 Dark_Falcon

Oh, I’ll never fullly respect her as a person after what she did in Hanoi. But it’s like Janine Garafalo playing an FBI agent on 24 :
She’s an actress, and the role Jane Fonda is cast in does not mean the picture is doomed to be a flop. It is possible that Fonda will accurately portray someone who believe in different things than her, and if she does so then she will have earned a modicum of respect from me. Because I respect skill and professionalism.

The film is about the many years White House butler. Cameo part for Jane.

91 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 2:39:45pm

re: #90 Stanley Sea

The film is about the many years White House butler. Cameo part for Jane.

Then no big deal either way. If FNC is talking about it, its just another “OUTRAGEOUS OUTRAGE!!1” for me to ignore.

92 DisturbedEma  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 2:45:59pm

re: #6 Lidane

Creationism = a shining example of scientific illiteracy. It’s right there with homeopathy, anti-vax paranoia, and chemtrails.

It’s not a competing theory with evolution. It’s magical thinking and fantasy.

I admit that I am the local pariah in my community because I not only had my autistic sons fully vaccinated I allowed my younger children to be as well, when you know, Jenny McCarthy said I shouldn’t…feh!

93 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 2:48:03pm

Let’s test a little something: Échale Salsita!

94 DisturbedEma  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 2:51:18pm

re: #82 FemNaziBitch

An interesting question- should she have to offer any kind of apology for her actions? I admit I am conflicted- my dad was in that war. I don’t have any first hand knowledge of the impact of her actions, I just know that members of my family were/are very bitter about a lot of things and her actions are noted. I admit I watched Monster in Law and found her funny.

95 DisturbedEma  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 2:55:20pm

re: #77 Dark_Falcon

Ahhh, how well I remember my family’s reaction to her. It was most unkind. They sided with Patti.

96 engineer cat  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 2:55:38pm

re: #1 Iwouldprefernotto

Other theories? Like Scientology?

i’m trying to think of what the differences would be between ‘creationism’ and ‘scientology’ under law as regards school instruction

97 stabby  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 3:00:21pm

re: #54 Varek Raith

I’d fly that.
Image: 322c9d29-db56-4f12-8e81-30505459d9c4.jpg

Oh hell yeaahs

98 Amory Blaine  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 3:04:13pm

Tremble in fear!!

99 CuriousLurker  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 3:07:21pm

From the article:

Jindal also said he has no problem with creationism being taught in public schools as long as a local school board OK’s it. Since the state is committed to national academic standards, he said, as long as schools are teaching evolution they should be allowed to teach other theories as well. “What are we scared of?” he said. “Let (students) debate and learn … give them critical thinking skills.”

Those two sentences are so full of FAIL I don’t even know where to begin.

How about we give kids critical thinking skills by actually teaching them how to think critically? You know, like teaching them about the different types of logical fallacies—how to spot them, what makes them fallacious, etc.

Oh, I see—that’s what you meant, right Bobby? You meant you want schools to teach creationism so the teachers can point out the logical fallacies in religion, which is all about faith/belief, NOT science. And you’ll totally be okay with schools teaching different religions’ versions of creation so the kids can compare them, right? RIGHT?

*facepalm, headdesk*

100 DisturbedEma  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 3:07:54pm

re: #96 engineer cat

Well because ONE is a cult…/// (you get to pick which one…oh, wait…:)

101 DisturbedEma  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 3:10:41pm

re: #99 CuriousLurker

The Critical Thinking Model that the school district where my kids attend school uses would not allow the Bible or L. Ron Hubbard books to be used to support a scientific hypothesis…just saying…

102 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 3:14:30pm

re: #95 DisturbedEma

Ahhh, how well I remember my family’s reaction to her. It was most unkind. They sided with Patti.

Over what? I know Patti Davis was estranged from her father for a long time, but I’ve never understood over what, really.

103 CuriousLurker  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 3:22:02pm

re: #101 DisturbedEma

The Critical Thinking Model that the school district where my kids attend school uses would not allow the Bible or L. Ron Hubbard books to be used to support a scientific hypothesis…just saying…

Exactly. They’re two different things, each with its own limitations. If I have a religious question or a spiritual crisis, then I go see an imam or a (Sufi) sheikh. If I have a health crisis, then I go see a doctor; if I wanted to grow plants that’ll thrive here in NJ, then I’d go see a horticulturist. It’s pretty freaking simple.

104 sauceruney  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 3:23:05pm

Will the vouchers be redeemable in Bitcoins?

105 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 3:25:47pm

Testing time again…

Échale Salsita!!!

106 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 3:26:23pm

re: #94 DisturbedEma

An interesting question- should she have to offer any kind of apology for her actions? I admit I am conflicted- my dad was in that war. I don’t have any first hand knowledge of the impact of her actions, I just know that members of my family were/are very bitter about a lot of things and her actions are noted. I admit I watched Monster in Law and found her funny.

Already has, though I don’t know the depth of it. Said she knew it was a trap as she stepped into the iconic AAA photo.

107 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 3:30:12pm

And again!

Échale Salsita!

108 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 3:32:16pm

Échale Salsita?

109 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 3:32:35pm

Is it Échale Salsita yet?

110 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 3:33:58pm

What about this Échale Salsita?

111 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 3:37:11pm

Character encoding is so much fun.

112 CuriousLurker  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 3:38:37pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

Character encoding is so much fun.

You forgot the sarc tags. //

113 freetoken  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 3:42:51pm

What struck me in particular about Jindal’s statement is his playing stupid (an act, I’m presuming) about the legal and Constitutional history of teaching creationism, and exactly why it is not allowed in publicly funded schools.

114 stabby  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 3:42:58pm

I would have thought that teaching critical thinking would be how you teach students that religion is bullshit, and that pseudo science like creationism is double bullshit.

If they really taught critical thinking in schools Jindal would have kittens.

Don’t these religious fanatics all know that? Didn’t Texas come out against teaching critical thinking?

115 stabby  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 3:44:30pm

re: #113 freetoken

You’re talking about the LIBERAL constitution, not the real one that Republicans and “constitutionalists” have invented over the last decade.

116 freetoken  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 3:47:52pm

The circular firing squad is starting to turn ugly:

ILL. GOP CHAIRMAN SURVIVES LATEST OUSTER ATTEMPT

Illinois’ GOP chairman emerged from another ouster attempt Saturday and said his party must be more welcoming of diversity and inclusive of people who disagree if it’s going to grow and win future elections.

More conservative members of Illinois’ Republican Party have been trying to oust Pat Brady for months, largely because he took a position in favor of gay marriage when a bill to legalize it was before the Legislature earlier this year. About 50 party members attended Saturday’s meeting of the GOP’s State Central Committee to ask that Brady step down or that the committee fire him.

[…]

Tensions mounted when the committee went into the closed-door session without first taking public comment and remained behind closed doors for several hours. At one point, people gathered in a hallway outside the meeting began yelling and chanting, “Throw him out.”

[…]

117 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 3:51:51pm

Let’s try it again… ?chale Salsita!

118 CuriousLurker  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 3:56:29pm

re: #103 CuriousLurker

Exactly. They’re two different things, each with its own limitations. If I have a religious question or a spiritual crisis, then I go see an imam or a (Sufi) sheikh. If I have a health crisis, then I go see a doctor; if I wanted to grow plants that’ll thrive here in NJ, then I’d go see a horticulturist. It’s pretty freaking simple.

Speaking of doctors, my primary care physician is Muslim, and I occasionally a specialist who’s Jewish. If either one of them proposed treating me by praying over me or by writing some words from the Qur’an or Torah on a piece of paper and placing it in an amulet, then directing me to wear around my neck or whatever, I’d be out the door and on the phone so damned fast it’d make their heads spin.

119 stabby  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 3:58:23pm

re: #109 Charles Johnson

That one looks correct in firefox on windows 7

120 freetoken  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 4:00:04pm

NBC News finally has the video available of Jindal, found it here:

noladefender.com

121 stabby  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 4:00:18pm

re: #93 Charles Johnson

That one also looks correct.

122 stabby  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 4:01:45pm

My Firefox seems to be set for UTF-8 according to the menu.

123 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 4:02:16pm

Trying to switch completely over to UTF-8 encoding, and running into a few glitches. Just need to figure out why the encodeURIComponent() function of Javascript doesn’t want to play well with the comment posting PHP script.

124 freetoken  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 4:03:44pm

The pertinent question starts at 9:00 . Jindal is so fixated on selling test scores that he totally ignores the bigger picture.

125 Romantic Heretic  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 4:05:54pm

re: #69 Varek Raith

I dunno, the Kestrel has missiles.
Lots o missiles…

I thought this was a Kestrel.

126 freetoken  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 4:06:09pm

“… controversial issues … global warming…” That part didn’t make it into the the news story.

127 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 4:07:17pm

re: #125 Romantic Heretic

I thought this was a Kestrel.

Also a good ship.
M5 with ZOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!

128 freetoken  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 4:10:01pm

This roadshow (on “education”) that NBC and their sponsors have been putting on is probably nothing more than a feel-good exercise. The interlocutor, I’m betting, had instructions to not be combative or in any sense cross examine.

The slickness of Jindal is that he mentioned “private school” but then ignored that his plan sends public money to said “private” schools.

And of course he wasn’t pressed on this.

129 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 4:12:12pm

re: #128 freetoken

This roadshow (on “education”) that NBC and their sponsors have been putting on is probably nothing more than a feel-good exercise. The interlocutor, I’m betting, had instructions to not be combative or in any sense cross examine.

The slickness of Jindal is that he mentioned “private school” but then ignored that his plan sends public money to said “private” schools.

And of course he wasn’t pressed on this.

Barbara Forrest comments at that page:

Jindal was referring to public schools in his reference to the LA Science Education Act, not private and parochial schools.

130 freetoken  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 4:19:10pm

re: #129 Charles Johnson

In regards to the LA SEA, yes, but Jindal’s little speech-lette made the spin, just briefly, as if he was defending private schools teaching what they want to. Then he slid right back into talking about public schools.

The camera showed a woman nodding her head.

Jindal intentionally set up a strawman real quickly, got the feeling he needed in his audience, then oh so smoothly moved on.

131 Amory Blaine  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 4:20:18pm

Iranian scientist claims to have invented ‘time machine’

Ali Razeghi, a Tehran scientist has registered “The Aryayek Time Traveling Machine” with the state-run Centre for Strategic Inventions.

The device can predict the future in a print out after taking readings from the touch of a user, he told the Fars state newsagency.

Razaeghi, 27, said the device worked by a set of complex algorithims to “predict five to eight years of the future life of any individual, with 98 percent accuracy”.

132 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 4:22:06pm

re: #131 Amory Blaine

Iranian scientist claims to have invented ‘time machine’

Bullshit, I have the only funtioning time machine.

133 sattv4u2  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 4:23:53pm

re: #132 Varek Raith

Bullshit, I have the only funtioning time machine.

Can you take me back to 1971? I have some unfinished business with my prom date !! ((if I only knew then what i know now !!!))

//

134 freetoken  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 4:24:56pm

Part of Jindal’s sales pitch is how intense he looks when he speaking about education, and how intent he appears when he mentions giving parents a choice.

Everyone wants a choice, right? (Well, except for raped women, but that’s another topic…)

135 Romantic Heretic  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 4:25:00pm

re: #127 Varek Raith

Also a good ship.
M5 with ZOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes. It’s snuck me past many a Xenon task force.

I haven’t played X3:TC in a while. thinking of picking it up again.

Mostly because I want to fly around in my Boreas again. You cannot miss it when that thing opens fire.

136 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 4:25:32pm

re: #125 Romantic Heretic

I thought this was a Kestrel.

No, THIS is a Kestrel.

137 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 4:28:28pm

re: #131 Amory Blaine

Iranian scientist claims to have invented ‘time machine’

Hah! Dinnerjacket’s boys must be running out of ‘prototypes’ that could exist in the real world, because they’ve gone completely over-the-top with this one.

138 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 4:29:37pm

Let’s try that again…

Échale Salsita!

139 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 4:31:44pm

I have Échale Salsita fever!

140 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 4:33:15pm

And there’s no cure except more Échale Salsita!

141 sattv4u2  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 4:37:14pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

And there’s no cure except more Échale Salsita!

142 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 4:40:29pm

Échale Salsita! It’s sleek!

143 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 4:42:04pm

re: #135 Romantic Heretic

Yes. It’s snuck me past many a Xenon task force.

I haven’t played X3:TC in a while. thinking of picking it up again.

Mostly because I want to fly around in my Boreas again. You cannot miss it when that thing opens fire.

I do miss the LX.

144 engineer cat  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 4:49:44pm

¡vamos a echar un poco!

145 CuriousLurker  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 4:51:31pm

re: #142 Charles Johnson

Oh, look—Spencer is now blaming John Coltrane & Miles Davis for ruining jazz. He even manages to work in a totally nonsensical jab at Islam in the next to the last sentence. What a pretentious, hateful idiot (but we already knew that):

How Miles Davis and John Coltrane Ruined Jazz
Time to pinpoint who is really responsible for preparing American culture for the likes of Kenny G and the horrors of muzak.

[…] It is Miles Davis who brought us the likes of Kenny G, David Sanborn, David Benoit and other handsomely remunerated purveyors of musical pap; it is John Coltrane to whom we owe self-important dweebs wearing dirty turtlenecks and black horn-rims, grating the ears on saxophones and trumpets while one is trying to get a beer in a college town bar – Miles Davis aptly termed them “no-playing m—–f—–s.” Jazz was so much healthier and more interesting when these two disparate strands of the music were still germinating within a larger unity, when Coltrane was the star member of Davis’s quintet, and the two titans had not yet torn it all apart. (And don’t get me started on Wynton Marsalis. If he’s jazz, Lindsey Lohan is Elizabeth Taylor.)

And so now jazz is not dead, and Islam is a religion of peace.
For the former, we have Miles Davis and John Coltrane to thank.

webcitation.org

146 jaunte  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 4:54:27pm

…Y antes de morirme quiero
Echar mis codigos del alma.

147 bratwurst  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 4:54:41pm

re: #145 CuriousLurker

Oh, look—Spencer is now blaming John Coltrane & Miles Davis for ruining jazz. He even manages to work in a totally nonsensical jab at Islam in the next to the last sentence. What a pretentious, hateful idiot (but we already knew that):

Wow…is he ever RIGHT about something?

148 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 4:55:04pm

re: #146 jaunte

…Y antes de morirme quiero
Echar mis codigos del alma.

Yo soy un hombre sincero…

149 stabby  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 4:55:33pm

babies with guns!
Image: 507f6f8c3716e.jpg

150 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 4:55:35pm

re: #145 CuriousLurker

Oh, look—Spencer is now blaming John Coltrane & Miles Davis for ruining jazz. He even manages to work in a totally nonsensical jab at Islam in the next to the last sentence. What a pretentious, hateful idiot (but we already knew that):

Is he being racist or just stupid?

BBIAB

151 CuriousLurker  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 4:55:49pm

re: #147 bratwurst

Wow…is he ever RIGHT about something?

Only in his own mind.

153 stabby  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 4:58:48pm

re: #145 CuriousLurker


I like to listen to Miles Davis occasionally, but talking down John Coltrane is blasphemy! … They can declare Jihad on Robert Spencer any time they want, they have my blessing now.

154 AlexRogan  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 4:59:17pm

re: #145 CuriousLurker

Oh, look—Spencer is now blaming John Coltrane & Miles Davis for ruining jazz. He even manages to work in a totally nonsensical jab at Islam in the next to the last sentence. What a pretentious, hateful idiot (but we already knew that):

I’m surprised that the bastard didn’t find a way to get in a slight against Charles, seeing as he is also a jazz musician.

Robert Spencer, like his partner-in-crime Pam Geller, is so full of shit.

156 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 5:01:33pm

re: #145 CuriousLurker

That’s a WTF of the first rank. Just for him I’m going to go put on, oh, Giant Steps? Then Kind of Blue & maybe A Love Supreme after that… what a dork.

157 Amory Blaine  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 5:01:44pm

re: #152 Varek Raith

N. Korea Propaganda Vid Threatens Attack On Colorado Springs, Misses By About 1,000 Miles

Americas schlong has shrunk as well. Cuba is quite ominous too.

158 freetoken  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 5:02:39pm

re: #155 Varek Raith

Oh great, now the black market will be flooded with Nutella. I can see it now, in the back alleys of every major city, little bars of brownish stuff under over-sized overcoats…

159 freetoken  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 5:04:18pm
160 AlexRogan  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 5:04:45pm

re: #155 Varek Raith

Thieves Make Off With Five Tons Of Nutella In Germany

I know Nutella is pretty good, but how in the hell are they gonna fence this?

161 Amory Blaine  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 5:05:11pm

re: #160 AlexRogan

Bitcoins!!!/

162 CuriousLurker  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 5:05:14pm

re: #156 William Barnett-Lewis

That’s a WTF of the first rank. Just for him I’m going to go put on, oh, Giant Steps? Then Kind of Blue & maybe A Love Supreme after that… what a dork.

I know, right? I’m not a jazz fan or music buff, but even I am well aware that Davis & Coltrane were giants. Play one for me too. Sheesh. O_o

163 AlexRogan  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 5:06:22pm

re: #161 Amory Blaine

Bitcoins!!!/

Indeed…

164 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 5:06:57pm

I haz Mongolian beef.

165 jaunte  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 5:08:51pm

re: #145 CuriousLurker

“…self-important dweebs…”

Perfect Spencer self-description.

166 CuriousLurker  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 5:11:59pm

re: #165 jaunte

Perfect Spencer self-description.

LOL, that’s exactly what I thought—he sounds envious. What an insufferable little troll. Ugh.

167 stabby  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 5:13:02pm

re: #160 AlexRogan

Toast!!

168 Stanley Sea  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 5:15:56pm

re: #145 CuriousLurker

Oh, look—Spencer is now blaming John Coltrane & Miles Davis for ruining jazz. He even manages to work in a totally nonsensical jab at Islam in the next to the last sentence. What a pretentious, hateful idiot (but we already knew that):

Such a weird hateful human being. JAZZ? His opinion matters?

169 freetoken  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 5:17:36pm
170 gwangung  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 5:17:47pm

re: #153 stabby


I like to listen to Miles Davis occasionally, but talking down John Coltrane is blasphemy! … They can declare Jihad on Robert Spencer any time they want, they have my blessing now.

I…I…can’t even.

Blasphemy is too mild a term….

171 jaunte  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 5:19:18pm

re: #168 Stanley Sea

His opinion matters?

PJ Merdia has column inches to fill.

Oops. Left the typo in.

172 AlexRogan  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 5:20:17pm

On the continuing subject of RWNJ dickhead douchebags, let’s talk about another one:

WBBJ: James Yeager Gets His Gun License Back

CAMDEN, Tenn. - In a Tactical Response YouTube video, CEO and founder James Yeager had some choice words regarding control stating: “I am not letting my country be ruled by a dictator. I am not letting anyone take my guns. If it goes one inch forward I’m gonna start killing people.”

Following the video that went viral, Yeager was forced to surrender his gun carrying permit on the grounds he may cause harm to others. Nearly three months later, he has it back.

“I believe that my video sparked a national discussion of ‘okay what is going to happen if things continue down this path?,” he said.

[…]

As for his comments about President Obama being a dictator, Yeager said his comments were in the heat of the moment, but said that heat still burns.

“Most folks middle America, we’ll pay our taxes, just leave our guns alone. And it seems they aren’t willing to do that. I am not overly optimistic things are gonna go well,” he said.

Yeager said following the debate over gun control policy in Washington and his viral video, business is booming.

Fucking punk hasn’t learned shit; I wonder how hard Yeager’s state reps leaned on the TN Department of Safety in his behalf to get him his CCP back, especially with him being a ‘job creator’.

173 jaunte  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 5:21:14pm
174 CuriousLurker  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 5:21:55pm

re: #168 Stanley Sea

Such a weird hateful human being. JAZZ? His opinion matters?

I’m still trying to figure out what jazz has to do with Islam since this appears to be “Part 9” of a series of articles titled Jazz and Islam.

No doubt he’s somehow managed to blame Islam for whatever he perceives is “wrong” with jazz nowadays, but I have no desire to read the rest of his BS to try and figure out what the imaginary connection is. Hell, I didn’t even read this one in its entirety—I just skimmed it.

175 CuriousLurker  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 5:22:19pm

re: #169 freetoken

Speaking of musicians:

Chicago Bluesman Jimmy Dawkins Dead at 76

Islam prolly killed him. //

176 Amory Blaine  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 5:23:50pm

re: #172 AlexRogan

On the continuing subject of RWNJ dickhead douchebags, let’s talking about another one:

WBBJ: James Yeager Gets His Gun License Back

Fucking punk hasn’t learned shit; I wonder how hard his state reps leaned on the Department of Safety in his behalf to get him his CCP back.

Basically the action was a show until the heat died down.

177 AlexRogan  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 5:23:56pm

re: #174 CuriousLurker

I’m still trying to figure out what jazz has to do with Islam since this appears to be “Part 9” of a series of articles titled Jazz and Islam.

No doubt he’s somehow managed to blame Islam for whatever he perceives is “wrong” with jazz nowadays, but I have no desire to read the rest of his BS to try and figure out what the imaginary connection is. Hell, I didn’t even read this one in its entirety—I just skimmed it.

I’m guessing he’s trying to work a possible Black Muslim angle; it’s the only one I can see, at this point.

178 freetoken  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 5:24:39pm

re: #174 CuriousLurker

I’m still trying to figure out what jazz has to do with Islam since this appears to be “Part 9” of a series of articles titled Jazz and Islam.

Well, if you were a real American you’d know it was pronounced IZZ-lam.

Everything with ‘ZZ’ in the name are known to be connected.

179 AlexRogan  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 5:25:23pm

re: #178 freetoken

Well, if you were a real American you’d know it was pronounced IZZ-lam.

Everything with ‘ZZ’ in the name are known to be connected.

How about jizz?

///

180 Stanley Sea  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 5:27:33pm

re: #171 jaunte

PJ Merdia has column inches to fill.

Oops. Left the typo in.

So he collected a check. Running low on fumes he is. Or he’s branching out his hate. What next? Restaurants in NYC?

181 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 5:29:08pm

re: #178 freetoken

Well, if you were a real American you’d know it was pronounced IZZ-lam.

Everything with ‘ZZ’ in the name are known to be connected.

Not ZZ Top! That just can’t be right… //

182 Stanley Sea  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 5:29:58pm

re: #178 freetoken

Well, if you were a real American you’d know it was pronounced IZZ-lam.

Everything with ‘ZZ’ in the name are known to be connected.

BINGO

183 CuriousLurker  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 5:30:09pm

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

Not ZZ Top! That just can’t be right… //

C’mon, the beards are a dead giveaway. //

184 stabby  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 5:30:21pm

re: #174 CuriousLurker

His next series will be how Islam led to then end of twinkies and ho hos

185 Stanley Sea  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 5:31:18pm

Way OT, bought new sponges. Yeah. They are very expensive, why?

186 jaunte  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 5:32:59pm

re: #178 freetoken

Well, if you were a real American you’d know it was pronounced IZZ-lam.

Everything with ‘ZZ’ in the name are known to be connected.

I heard Jay ZZ and Beyonzzce went to Czzuba.

187 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 5:33:48pm

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188 CuriousLurker  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 5:34:17pm

re: #185 Stanley Sea

Way OT, bought new sponges. Yeah. They are very expensive, why?

What kind of sponges are they? Brawny stopped making theirs, which I really liked—they were like foam sponges not sponge sponges, you know what I mean? I hate sponge sponges ‘cause they get all icky & stinky.

189 Stanley Sea  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 5:36:30pm

re: #188 CuriousLurker

What kind of sponges are they? Brawny stopped making theirs, which I really liked—they were like foam sponges not sponge sponges, you know what I mean? I hate sponge sponges ‘cause they get all icky & stinky.

Sponge sponges with the safe for pots side. Yes they get stinky, but these were 2.99 for 3. I’m cheap I guess.

190 CuriousLurker  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 5:36:31pm

re: #187 Varek Raith

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So when you fall asleep and make that “zzzzz” noise… O_o //

191 CuriousLurker  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 5:38:01pm

re: #189 Stanley Sea

Sponge sponges with the safe for pots side. Yes they get stinky, but these were 2.99 for 3. I’m cheap I guess.

$2.99 for 3 is a little bit on the steep side.

192 CuriousLurker  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 5:39:13pm

Okay, I’ve got emails to answer. Talk to you guys later.

193 Stanley Sea  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 5:41:18pm

re: #191 CuriousLurker

$2.99 for 3 is a little bit on the steep side.

Tell me! But I’m already grumpy from housework and hate shopping so it was one stop or nothing.

Good part, new Vanity Fair that I will devour cover to cover. Audrey Hepburn’s son writes of their life in Italy. :)


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