Pamela Geller Cites Holocaust Denial Group as Source for Attack on ADL

Geller accuses ADL of being anti-Israel - by citing an antisemitic hate group
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In other Pamela Geller news, she’s been spewing hatred at the Anti-Defamation League for calling her out, and earlier today she posted another attack on them — and cited a Holocaust denial group as a source: ADL CONDEMNS PAMELA GELLER AND …..ISRAEL - Atlas Shrugs.

Here’s a screenshot; the link in that last paragraph goes to the vile Institute for Historical Review:

Here’s a Google cache of the antisemitic article to which she linked: Anti-Defamation League Suffers Major Legal Defeat.

And here’s a cache of her page at WebCite, because she’ll probably try to delete this and pretend it never happened.

(h/t: Jacob Alperin-Sheriff.)

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398 comments
1 Targetpractice  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 9:18:51pm

It’s like goldy or bronzy, only it’s made of iron.

2 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 9:19:12pm

Pam Geller has truly hit a new low: She’s gotten so unable to take criticism that she’ll even use material from those who hate her to attack a critic.

Pure Filth.

3 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 9:22:32pm

re: #2 Dark_Falcon

Pam Geller has truly hit a new low: She’s gotten so unable to take criticism that she’ll even use material from those who hate her to attack a critic.

Pure Filth.

The entire anti-Islam industry is rooted in recycling anti-Semitic tropes, and has consistently rubbed elbows with organizations rooted in European anti-Semitism and Nazism. This is not a surprising development.

4 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 9:25:39pm

Off topic, if anybody needs to decompress from today I noticed hulu is showing the April 29th episode of Warehouse 13 two weeks early.

5 Pawn of the Oppressor  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 9:26:14pm

This woman deserves a parody character on The Onion or maybe even SNL.

I think I might have bought one of Robert Spencer’s books years ago. I feel icky.

6 CriticalDragon1177  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 9:26:28pm

Charles Johnson,

Pamela shows us one more time, why she is never to be trusted.

7 Lidane  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 9:27:48pm

re: #2 Dark_Falcon

Pam Geller has truly hit a new low: She’s gotten so unable to take criticism that she’ll even use material from those who hate her to attack a critic.

That’s not new. She’s been using recycled anti-Semitic slurs against Muslims for years.

8 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 9:44:14pm

re: #3 The Ghost of a Flea

The entire anti-Islam industry is rooted in recycling anti-Semitic tropes, and has consistently rubbed elbows with organizations rooted in European anti-Semitism and Nazism. This is not a surprising development.

Not surprising, but still sickening.

9 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 9:45:30pm

Wow, the third comment to her post is so far out into nationalistic xenophobia I’ll go out on a limb and say it’s Nazi-like rhetoric.

10 Four More Tears  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 9:45:55pm
11 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 9:51:44pm

re: #10 Four More Tears

Doesn’t mean it’s not Islamists, but it does mean it almost certainly wasn’t that group of Islamists.

12 austin_blue  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 9:57:11pm

Pam is bugshit crazy, a nutcase, and completely disassociated from reality.

But I will ignore any post concerning her on this board from this day forward. No up dings, no down dings. She should be dead to all of us. We are all agreed that she and her ilk are beyond the pale.

Can’t we discuss individual policies and issues that are relevant to the common good and relate to the real world instead of the extreme whacko right? Granted that the pundits are are humorous, and dangerous, but shouldn’t we be concentrating on the State Legislatures, where the travesties of law are created?

Late night musing, and time for bed. Please discuss!

13 Gus  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 9:59:07pm

re: #11 Dark_Falcon

Doesn’t mean it’s not Islamists, but it does mean it almost certainly wasn’t that group of Islamists.

Just had to read some BS from some moonbats saying we bomb people like this everyday. Twitter. I have to admit though, there is a plus side. Twitter has increased my productivity as of late. Just can’t stand reading the BS much anymore.

14 Gus  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 9:59:43pm
15 CriticalDragon1177  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 10:00:38pm

Charles Johnson,

By the way, sorry to have to tell you this, but I’m having trouble getting the cache of here page to open. You might want to see if anything is wrong with it, before Pam deletes the original.

16 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 10:00:57pm

re: #13 Gus

Just had to read some BS from some moonbats saying we bomb people like this everyday. Twitter. I have to admit though, there is a plus side. Twitter has increased my productivity as of late. Just can’t stand reading the BS much anymore.

The Taliban are Islamists, and there’s nothing wrong with bombing Islamists.

17 Gus  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 10:03:10pm

re: #16 Dark_Falcon

The Taliban are Islamists, and there’s nothing wrong with bombing Islamists.

In any event we don’t set off IEDs at civilian events. I unfollowed the idiot and had to block 3 of his cult followers. Just another weirdo lefty pundit that’s gone. I don’t give a crap. I have my life and my troubles.

18 Lidane  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 10:11:07pm
19 GunstarGreen  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 10:18:31pm

re: #17 Gus

In any event we don’t set off IEDs at civilian events. I unfollowed the idiot and had to block 3 of his cult followers. Just another weirdo lefty pundit that’s gone. I don’t give a crap. I have my life and my troubles.

True, we don’t set off IEDs.

But things like this are why I take such a hardline stance on the unacceptability of harming civilians in the course of performing our various overseas actions.

Every innocent person dead is some nutcase’s justification for retaliating.

20 CriticalDragon1177  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 10:21:49pm

Charles Johnson,,

Okay, seems to be working now.

21 Decatur Deb  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 10:59:50pm

re: #19 GunstarGreen

…snip
Every innocent person dead is some nutcase’s justification for retaliating.

Calibrated that fer ya.

22 CriticalDragon1177  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 11:18:43pm

re: #13 Gus

Just had to read some BS from some moonbats saying we bomb people like this everyday. Twitter. I have to admit though, there is a plus side. Twitter has increased my productivity as of late. Just can’t stand reading the BS much anymore.

There are some cool science websites and youtube channels I can recommend, if you want to get away from politics for awhile.

23 Kragar  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 11:26:55pm

Louisiana governor: I’ve got no problem with creationism in public schools

During an interview with NBC host Hoda Kotb, Jindal said students should be taught “the best science” in public schools, but implied that teaching creationism would not interfere with that.

“We have what’s called the Science Education Act that says that if a teacher wants to supplement those materials, if the school board is okay with that, if the state school board is okay with that, they can supplement those materials,” he explained.

“Bottom line, at the end of the day, we want our kids to be exposed to the best facts. Let’s teach them about the big bang theory, let’s teach them about evolution, let’s teach them — I’ve got no problem if a school board, a local school board, says we want to teach our kids about creationism, that people, some people, have these beliefs as well, let’s teach them about ‘intelligent design.’”

Jindal said students should be free to question “controversial issues” like climate change and other scientific theories, adding, “What are we scared of?”

Wasting time, money, and resources on catering to crack pots and zealots.

24 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Apr 15, 2013 11:42:55pm

It would appear that Fox News has moved their comments section from Fox Nation to Fox News Insider. Not many of their readers have found it yet.

25 Mentis Fugit  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:28:23am

re: #21 Decatur Deb

Calibrated that fer ya.

Innocent dead are a great recruiting aid though.

26 EdDantes  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 2:03:06am

“I must down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,
And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,
And the wheel’s kick and the wind’s song and the white sail’s shaking,
And a grey mist on the sea’s face, and a grey dawn breaking.”
-John Masefield

27 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 2:51:11am

Will engage in no speculation about perpetrators until we hear some official statements, would prefer to be spared accusatory derpulation based on preconceived prejudices.

28 freetoken  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 2:51:51am
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29 EdDantes  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 2:55:36am

re: #27 Sol Berdinowitz

Will engage in no speculation about perpetrators until we hear some official statements, would prefer to be spared accusatory derpulation based on preconceived prejudices.

Would a recapitulation of the situation be indication of substantiation?

30 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 3:05:46am

re: #29 EdDantes

Would a recapitulation of the situation be indication of substantiation?

Does it involve anything we don’t know so far?

31 EdDantes  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 3:07:22am

re: #30 Sol Berdinowitz

What do we know so far?

Bombs exploded. Dead and injured. No suspects.

32 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 3:09:22am

re: #31 EdDantes

Bombs exploded. Dead and injured. No suspects.

Exactly, and a lot of unsubstianted stories being spread by those who know already.


And if it is not a Muslim, then it certainly was not a True Patriot.

Point is to keep up the buzz.

33 EdDantes  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 3:14:46am

re: #32 Sol Berdinowitz

Much speculation all around depending on your political beliefs. I have not speculated. I am waiting for a thorough investigation and, I hope, arrests.

34 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 3:16:19am

re: #33 EdDantes

Much speculation all around depending on your political beliefs. I have not speculated. I am waiting for a thorough investigation and and, I hope, arrests.

I is unfortunate that too many people are so ravingly ideological that they have no patience or use for facts and official statements.

35 EdDantes  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 3:18:50am

re: #34 Sol Berdinowitz

The truth is ultimately more satisfying than preconceived notions.

36 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 3:21:19am

re: #35 EdDantes

The truth is ultimately more satisfying than preconceived notions.

Except to those those who see the Higher Truths: i.e. that Islam (and not just militant Islam but the entire religion) is a threat to civilzation and Obama is its willing servant.

37 EdDantes  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 3:21:47am

re: #35 EdDantes

The truth is ultimately more satisfying than preconceived notions.

Cripes! I just reminded myself of one my favorite Robert Burns verses:

O wad some Power the giftie gie us
To see oursels as ithers see us!
It wad frae mony a blunder free us,
An’ foolish notion:
What airs in dress an’ gait wad lea’e us,
An’ ev’n devotion!

38 EdDantes  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 3:28:48am

re: #36 Sol Berdinowitz

Except to those those who see the Highter Truths: i.e. that Islam (and not just militant Islam but the entire religion) is a threat to civilzation and Obama is its willing servant.

i.e. It was home grown terrorism, it was a disgruntled runner, it was “local boys” (as in OKC), etc.

39 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 3:36:47am

re: #37 EdDantes

Cripes! I just reminded myself of one my favorite Robert Burns verses:

O wad some Power the giftie gie us
To see oursels as ithers see us!
It wad frae mony a blunder free us,
An’ foolish notion:
What airs in dress an’ gait wad lea’e us,
An’ ev’n devotion!

I shot my wad o’er that one…

40 EdDantes  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 3:58:04am

Nite all

41 Charleston Chew  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:07:45am

re: #5 Pawn of the Oppressor

This woman deserves a parody character on The Onion or maybe even SNL.

I think I might have bought one of Robert Spencer’s books years ago. I feel icky.

Star Trek parodied her and her ilk back in ‘69 in an episode called “Day Of The Dove” (you can watch it for free on the CBS website):

…Meanwhile, the Klingons have taken over engineering and begin to shut down life support to the rest of the ship; however, their attempts are futile and life support is restored completely on its own. Also, inexplicably, severely injured crew who fought during the skirmish find their wounds have rapidly healed, keeping both sides of the battle on a matched footing. Kirk and Spock surmise that the alien intruder is playing some kind of twisted wargame, but its motives are unknown.

Kirk wants his crew to stop fighting, but they find themselves uncontrollably driven to violence through fearful paranoia. Kirk and Spock decide to try to reach Kang, in order to alert him to the situation, and to reason with him. Meanwhile, Mr. Chekov roams the ship seeking revenge for the murder of his brother Piotr - even though Lt. Sulu points out that Chekov is an only child. When Chekov finds the Klingon female Mara, who is Kang’s wife and science officer, he threatens to rape and kill her. Mara is rescued by Kirk and Spock who manage to knock Chekov out.

Mara remains wary of Kirk’s help. She tells him she has heard that Klingons that are captured are put into Federation concentration camps for later execution or experiments. Kirk tries to calm her down telling her there are no such camps, and that an alien force is behind what is going on. Mara still refuses to believe Kirk; however, the alien entity finally makes an appearance just outside Sickbay. The being lingers for a moment and then vanishes through a bulkhead. Spock believes the entity may be feeding off everyone’s negative emotions, especially fear and anger. He suggests it may have faked the colony distress call and set up this battle between the crew and Klingons so that it has a convenient source of nourishment.

42 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:19:27am

It’s old news by now, but I got some DMs yesterday from people telling me that Pam had a freakout (isn’t she like constantly in freakout meltdown mode?) over my rather nerdy little “Message” to the congregations she visited on Sunday. Did anybody catch what she said about me? Am I a “self-hating Jewicidal Moslem-loving Kapo”?

43 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:20:37am

re: #42 Vicious Babushka

It’s old news by now, but I got some DMs yesterday from people telling me that Pam had a freakout (isn’t she like constantly in freakout meltdown mode?) over my rather nerdy little “Message” to the congregations she visited on Sunday. Did anybody catch what she said about me? Am I a “self-hating Jewicidal Moslem-loving Kapo”?

Your own personal Godwin. Someone who cares, someone who’s there.

44 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:21:13am

re: #43 Sol Berdinowitz

Your own personal Godwin. Someone who cares, someone who’s there.

(cries)

45 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:23:24am

Bryan is in fine form this morning, Can’t decide whether to blame Teh Ghey, Teh Islam or Teh Abortion.

46 Charleston Chew  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:31:48am

re: #45 Vicious Babushka

Bryan is in fine form this morning, Can’t decide whether to blame Teh Ghey, Teh Islam or Teh Abortion.

He needs to install a big Wheel-Of-Fortune-style wheel that he can just spin and go with whatever the arrow lands on. It would actually make slightly more sense.

47 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:33:27am

re: #46 Charleston Chew

He needs to install a big Wheel-Of-Fortune-style wheel that he can just spin and go with whatever the arrow lands on. It would actually make slightly more sense.

He should have that flashing light board like the one on the Jon Stewart show: SODOMY-WELFARE-SHARIA-ZYGOTES!

48 iossarian  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:35:49am

re: #43 Sol Berdinowitz

Your own personal Godwin. Someone who cares, someone who’s there.

Reach out, touch (wingnut) base.

49 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:36:54am

re: #48 iossarian

Reach out, touch (wingnut) base.

I am proud to have done my little part. (sniff)

50 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:38:36am

This morning on TGDN:

OBUMO MADE THIS HAPEN TO TAEK AWAY ARE GUNZ!!11!!

51 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:45:19am

re: #50 Vicious Babushka

This morning on TGDN:

Surprise, surprise.

52 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:48:00am

re: #51 Dr Lizardo

Surprise, surprise.

BAU.

53 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:49:20am

Wow. I wonder if any of the synagogues that invited her are now regretting it.

This kind of reminds me of when Mandy Manners cited some virulent anti-semites in order to attack Soros, and then couldn’t really understand why I flipped out on her because, after all, she hadn’t know they were virulent anti-semites. She thought that was a defense of her actions. It also reminds me of people who get sucked into the anti-circumcision silliness without taking the time to discover that the roots of almost all those movements are anti-semitic in nature. That’s one reason I was glad that that whole Foreskin Man actually happened, it really ripped the cover off of that. For most people.

The only reason to cite something, as Geller is doing, is to say “See, this person agrees with me”. It is so fucking obvious that the merits of that person matter deeply that I am continually astonished by people who cite someone who supports them and then, when that person is revealed as a fucker, say “Well, I didn’t know.” If you didn’t know anything about them, then why’d you cite them? Simply because they said the same things as you. Which is without value.

People.

54 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:50:43am

Wingnuts are so ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE that “AMUSLIMDIDIT” they are arguing over whether it’s the MB, AQ, Pakistanis or Chechens.

55 Stoatly  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:51:41am

re: #26 EdDantes

I must go down to the sea again, the lonely sea and sky. I left my socks and pants there, I wonder if they’re dry? - Spike Milligan.

56 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:53:51am

BRYAN U MAKE BABY JESUS CRY

57 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:55:10am

re: #54 Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts are so ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE that “AMUSLIMDIDIT” they are arguing over whether it’s the MB, AQ, Pakistanis or Chechens.

And if it was one of their ilk that did it, the silence will be deafening. From their point of view, it’ll all disappear down the memory hole.

58 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:56:33am

re: #57 Dr Lizardo

And if it was one of their ilk that did it, the silence will be deafening. From their point of view, it’ll all disappear down the memory hole.

If it turns out that it was another Tim McVeigh we won’t stop hearing:

IT WAZ A FALSE FLAG REICHSTAG FIRE TO TAEK ARE GUNZ AWAY!!11!!

59 iossarian  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:58:25am

re: #53 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

I cannot resist the pedant’s urge to point out that you *could* also be citing someone just in order to handle a part of your argument that has already been established, to avoid going over old ground.

“As Smith has successfully argued, blancmange is very like trifle. Therefore…”

But I agree that isn’t what Gellar’s doing here.

60 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:00:08am

re: #58 Vicious Babushka

If it turns out that it was another Tim McVeigh we won’t stop hearing:

IT WAZ A FALSE FLAG REICHSTAG FIRE TO TAEK ARE GUNZ AWAY!!11!!

Of that, I have little doubt. They’ll claim it was a conspiracy to discredit them, to focus attention on them, etc., etc. Their same old tiresome arguments. They’ll do anything to avoid taking responsibility if it was one of their own.

This could also have been done by a Howard Payne-type - Dennis Hopper’s character in Speed - a “mad bomber”.

61 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:00:08am

re: #57 Dr Lizardo

And if it was one of their ilk that did it, the silence will be deafening. From their point of view, it’ll all disappear down the memory hole.

I don’t know if there’s a word for this. Jumping to conclusions based on bias, or doing stupid shit like thinking that a guy in Jordan being happy about this bombing gives us any insight into who did it, is always wrong. Even if you wind up being right, you were wrong to jump to the conclusion. But for a lot of people, when their evidence-less assumption turns out to be right, they see this as a confirmation that speculation sans evidence is actually just fine and dandy, and that people who said to not do so are idiots and PC and stupid. They think they actually had some insight that led them to the correct conclusion.

It’s aggravating.

62 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:01:57am

re: #59 iossarian

Yeah, you could cite someone’s logical argument, but in general, it’s accepted that people with extreme biases— like holocaust deniers— aren’t going to be good sources of those, either.

63 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:02:41am

And if you have ever enjoyed a “Heist” movie, the scenario that pops into your mind is that the bomb was set off by criminals to create a diversion so that they could rob a nearby securities vault.//

64 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:03:27am

re: #63 Vicious Babushka

And if you have ever enjoyed a “Heist” movie, the scenario that pops into your mind is that the bomb was set off by criminals to create a diversion so that they could rob a nearby securities vault.//

CURSE YOU, JEREMY IRONS!! YOU’VE STOLEN ALL THE GOLD!!

65 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:04:54am

re: #64 Dr Lizardo

CURSE YOU, JEREMY IRONS!! YOU’VE STOLEN ALL THE GOLD!!

Alan Rickman will kill Jeremy Irons and escape with the loot, but then he’ll get double crossed and Don Cheadle gets it all.

66 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:06:02am

re: #65 Vicious Babushka

Alan Rickman will kill Jeremy Irons and escape with the loot, but then he’ll get double crossed and Don Cheadle gets it all.

Sounds like the script for an epic heist film; with the right director at the helm, I’d pay to see it.

67 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:07:30am

re: #66 Dr Lizardo

Sounds like the script for an epic heist film; with the right director at the helm, I’d pay to see it.

It’s the script for EVERY heist film. Let’s see which auto company will provide the vehicles for all the chase scenes.

68 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:08:52am

re: #67 Vicious Babushka

It’s the script for EVERY heist film. Let’s see which auto company will provide the vehicles for all the chase scenes.

Bluebird school buses vs DHS MRAPS. Maybe a GM Volt thrown in for environmental awareness.

69 iossarian  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:08:54am

re: #62 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Yeah, you could cite someone’s logical argument, but in general, it’s accepted that people with extreme biases— like holocaust deniers— aren’t going to be good sources of those, either.

Yup. Especially in the mainstream press. I think you really only get the “sound arguments in area A but offensively nutty in area B” in academia.

70 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:12:13am

re: #67 Vicious Babushka

It’s the script for EVERY heist film. Let’s see which auto company will provide the vehicles for all the chase scenes.

Very true. The director is important. Look at Conan the Barbarian (the 1982 original). Though John Milius is a nut, he directed the hell out of the film; along with the score by Basil Poledouris, it elevated what should’ve been a straight-up B-movie into a classic of its genre.

71 iossarian  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:13:31am

re: #61 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

It’s a kind of rhetorical gamble/gambit, isn’t it?

“Of course it must have been done by (persecuted group X).”

You force supporters of group X to defend them, and then if it turns out that group X was, in fact, responsible, you can use that as a further cudgel to bash the supporters. “You support baby-murderers!!!” etc.

There is also fairly little downside, since if it turns out not to have been group X, you tend not to lose much credibility, due to the already-polarized nature of the debate.

72 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:22:41am

Jesus. One of the guys who helped people at the finish line lost one son in Iraq, and then had his other son commit suicide. After all that, his first instinct is still to help people. Humanity. usnews.nbcnews.com

73 Lidane  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:26:34am
74 Shvaughn  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:37:43am

Ugh, 7.8 quake in Iran near Pakistan.

nytimes.com

75 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:39:08am

Outrageous Outrage du Jour:

OBAMA DISSES LADY THATCHER BY NOT SENDING AN OFFICIAL ENVOY TO THE FUNERAL!!11!!

Isn’t it the VP who usually attends these events?

76 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:47:18am

re: #68 Vicious Babushka

Bluebird school buses vs DHS MRAPS. Maybe a GM Volt thrown in for environmental awareness.

The hero drives a retired police Crown Victoria though… ;)

77 Decatur Deb  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:48:53am

re: #75 Vicious Babushka

Outrageous Outrage du Jour:

Isn’t it the VP who usually attends these events?

Live politician trumps a dead politician every time.

78 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:49:37am

re: #76 William Barnett-Lewis

The hero drives a retired police Crown Victoria though… ;)

A Mustang! It’s always a Mustang!

79 Decatur Deb  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 5:58:19am

re: #42 Vicious Babushka

It’s old news by now, but I got some DMs yesterday from people telling me that Pam had a freakout (isn’t she like constantly in freakout meltdown mode?) over my rather nerdy little “Message” to the congregations she visited on Sunday. Did anybody catch what she said about me? Am I a “self-hating Jewicidal Moslem-loving Kapo”?

Wandering among the nutcase caches, I’ve seen you earn two “Kapo Ups” for this. One was delicate enough to call you a ‘guitar kapo’. Fuck them all with an etrog.

80 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 6:12:10am
81 blueraven  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 6:16:27am

FBI briefing on Boston bombings at 9:30am ET

82 darthstar  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 6:17:09am

Mornin’ everyone

83 Decatur Deb  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 6:18:38am

Today someone with a degree governing responsibility will describe the origins and motives of the bomber(s). He/she will be wrong.

84 darthstar  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 6:19:19am

re: #42 Alouette

Wow…nobody’s ever called me anything close to that! Upding for originality!

85 darthstar  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 6:23:11am

re: #83 Decatur Deb

Today someone with a degree governing responsibility will describe the origins and motives of the bomber(s). He/she will be wrong.

If it takes more than a few seconds to describe your thoughts on the bombers, then you’re probably on camera more for your own benefit than anything else…and if you start a sentence with “It’s too soon to speculate but…” shut the fuck up.

86 blueraven  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 6:24:01am

What we think we know now.

there were only 2 bombs (no unexploded devices found)

One 20 yr old Saudi student was questioned, apartment searched.
Reports to be severely burned and was running away. Cooperating with officials, denies any involvement…so far no evidence to tie him to the bombings.

Anything else?

87 darthstar  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 6:25:19am

re: #23 Kragar

Louisiana governor: I’ve got no problem with creationism in public schools

Wasting time, money, and resources on catering to crack pots and zealots.

we should teach both sides of the bible…

88 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 6:28:22am
89 Bulworth  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 6:30:21am

re: #75 Vicious Babushka

Outrageous Outrage du Jour:


OBAMA DISSES LADY THATCHER BY NOT SENDING AN OFFICIAL ENVOY TO THE FUNERAL!!11!!

Isn’t it the VP who usually attends these events?

If PBO went himself:

Why is Obummer going to GB when we have Boston bombing and how much money is his trip costing hard-working taxpayers?!111!!!

90 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 6:33:36am

re: #86 blueraven

What we think we know now.

there were only 2 bombs (no unexploded devices found)

One 20 yr old Saudi student was questioned, apartment searched.
Reports to be severely burned and was running away. Cooperating with officials, denies any involvement…so far no evidence to tie him to the bombings.

Anything else?

I don’t think we evenknow that the apartment was that of the Saudi student, no.

91 geoffm33  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 6:34:48am

After a sleepless night listening to squad cars and helicopters, and pathetically watching twitter for more updates, I am a zombie at work. How are we all today?

92 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 6:34:56am

Conspiracy theorists grabbing on to this with both hands:


It was an accident, an electrical malfunction, totally unrelated to the bombings.

93 blueraven  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 6:36:12am

re: #90 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

I don’t think we evenknow that the apartment was that of the Saudi student, no.

Maybe. I heard that reported from multiple sources. I imagine they are following up on every possible lead.

94 Decatur Deb  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 6:36:34am

re: #92 Vicious Babushka

Conspiracy theorists grabbing on to this with both hands:


It was an accident, an electrical malfunction, totally unrelated to the bombings.

That’s what they want you to believe..

Dogwalk—BBL.

95 geoffm33  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 6:38:45am

re: #92 Vicious Babushka

Conspiracy theorists grabbing on to this with both hands:


It was an accident, an electrical malfunction, totally unrelated to the bombings.

false flag!

That was actually the one concerning me (personally) the most. My kids were with their pappa since the wife and I had to work with the schools closed for the holiday. My wife asked me if it was safe for him to bring them back to the city, I said yes since we are in South Boston. Then the reports start to pour in about the JFK Library directly across the the bay from us over in Columbia Point (Dorchester).

96 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 6:40:06am

re: #73 Lidane

Yunno, even if it were a “Saudi National”, aren’t those guys supposed to be on our side?

97 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 6:41:10am

re: #96 Sol Berdinowitz

Yunno, even if it were a “Saudi National”, aren’t those guys supposed to be on our side?

TEH 9/11 HIJACKERZ!!11!!11TY

98 iossarian  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 6:41:14am

re: #96 Sol Berdinowitz

Yunno, even if it were a “Saudi National”, aren’t those guys supposed to be on our side?

Allies in the war on other oil consumers terror!

99 Four More Tears  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 6:41:39am

Presser is on.

livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com

100 blueraven  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 6:42:06am

re: #96 Sol Berdinowitz

Yunno, even if it were a “Saudi National”, aren’t those guys supposed to be on our side?

Umm…the 911 hijackers were Saudi nationals

101 Four More Tears  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 6:45:40am
102 Political Atheist  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 6:46:54am

re: #100 blueraven

Umm…the 911 hijackers were Saudi nationals

Our domestic terrorists are American. Other than origin, let’s not read too much into that sort of thing. AFAIK all that tells us is there are violent Saudis as there are violent Americans.

Watching the news conference for a bit.

103 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 6:49:23am

re: #97 Vicious Babushka

Exactly. I still think we invaded the wrong country after 9/11…

/half

104 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 6:50:14am

Richard Rivette can eat a bag of dicks.

105 Four More Tears  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 6:50:58am
106 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 6:51:26am

Dim Jim can eat a bag of dicks.

107 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 6:53:47am

VB,

please!

We all know that those guys are not worthy to eat a bag of rotten donkey dicks…

As soon as we have any more info from the police we can determine if it was a terrorist attack (i.e., related to a teror cell/movement) or just a person acting alone.

And until then, please, spare us the derp, if I want derp, i will go on Twitter and get a day’s dose within fifteen minutes

108 Charleston Chew  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 6:54:41am

re: #92 Vicious Babushka

Conspiracy theorists grabbing on to this with both hands:


It was an accident, an electrical malfunction, totally unrelated to the bombings.

Every conspiracy theory can kinda be summed up as: “There are no coincidences!”

109 Four More Tears  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 6:54:46am

re: #107 Sol Berdinowitz

VB,

please!

We all know that those guys are not worthy to eat a bag of rotten donkey dicks…

As soon as we have any more info from the police we can determine if it was a terrorist attack (i.e., related to a teror cell/movement) or just a person acting alone.

And until then, please, spare us the derp, if I want derp, i will go on Twitter and get a day’s dose within fifteen minutes

There will be derp.

110 efuseakay  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 6:55:02am

re: #100 blueraven

Umm…the 911 hijackers were Saudi nationals

Not all of them… Even so, does that make all Saudis suspects?

111 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 6:55:35am

re: #110 efuseakay

Not all of them… Even so, does that make all Saudis suspects?

Everyone but the Royal Family, I guess…

112 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 6:55:36am

re: #107 Sol Berdinowitz

VB,

please!

please, spare us the derp, if I want derp, i will go on Twitter and get a day’s dose within fifteen minutes

There will be Derp. No one will be spared. Now shut up and eat your Derp.

113 blueraven  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 6:56:46am

re: #102 Political Atheist

Our domestic terrorists are American. Other than origin, let’s not read too much into that sort of thing. AFAIK all that tells us is there are violent Saudis as there are violent Americans.

Watching the news conference for a bit.

I am not reading anything into it. I am just saying that because Saudi Arabia is an ally of sorts, tells us nothing about the individuals that may or may not be involved. I am still on the 50/50 possibility of domestic vs international.

114 blueraven  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 6:57:25am

re: #110 efuseakay

Not all of them… Even so, does that make all Saudis suspects?

No

115 Four More Tears  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 6:58:41am

A crappy excuse for a man, I’d say.

116 efuseakay  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:02:53am

re: #114 blueraven

No

Ok guess it’s too early. Almost got snippy.

117 Four More Tears  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:05:26am
118 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:07:13am

re: #117 Four More Tears

Fail.

119 Bulworth  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:07:48am

re: #117 Four More Tears

I eagerly await Bryan’s retraction, because wingnuts always admit when they’ve been wrong….
//

120 blueraven  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:08:30am

re: #117 Four More Tears

facepalm…that is some crazy deduction.

121 Dr. Matt  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:08:37am

re: #86 blueraven

What we think we know now.

there were only 2 bombs (no unexploded devices found)

One 20 yr old Saudi student was questioned, apartment searched.
Reports to be severely burned and was running away. Cooperating with officials, denies any involvement…so far no evidence to tie him to the bombings.

Anything else?

I believe I heard on MSNBC that the Saudi student had one or two roomies and they were questioned as well.

122 Bulworth  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:08:57am

re: #112 Vicious Babushka

The derp you’re getting into with that “W knew what it was like to serve” tweeter is almost more than any normal human being can stands.

123 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:10:02am

re: #122 Bulworth

The derp you’re getting into with that “W knew what it was like to serve” tweeter is almost more than any normal human being can stands.

The Derp is coming from both sides, there’s also some moonbat who thinks the Killian memos were real.

124 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:11:42am

OT
Hello, dear lizard friends,

I’ve been off taking care of real-life things these last few days. Amid all this grief and hateration, may I inject some happy news? My daughter was married on Saturday in the White Chapel at Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology, Terre Haute, IN. It was a perfect wedding, and we had a great time at the reception.

I’ve been back in the States since April 8 and right now am relaxing in Louisville, KY. My university in China gave me leave until April 29.

125 blueraven  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:11:52am

re: #123 Vicious Babushka

The Derp is coming from both sides, there’s also some moonbat who thinks the Killian memos were real.

Yes, as well as joining the Alex Jones conspiracy theory that the FBI done it!!

126 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:12:18am

BRYAN JUST CAN’T STOP TEH DERP

127 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:15:07am

re: #124 wheat-dogghazi

OT
Hello, dear lizard friends,

I’ve been off taking care of real-life things these last few days. Amid all this grief and hateration, may I inject some happy news? My daughter was married on Saturday in the White Chapel at Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology, Terre Haute, IN. It was a perfect wedding, and we had a great time at the reception.

I’ve been back in the States since April 8 and right now am relaxing in Louisville, KY. My university in China gave me leave until April 29.

Congratulations to you and the happy couple.

128 blueraven  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:15:24am

re: #126 Vicious Babushka

BRYAN JUST CAN’T STOP TEH DERP

The clown doth protest too much, methinks.
Is he afraid to wait for the truth?

129 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:15:59am

re: #128 blueraven

The clown doth protest too much, methinks.
Is he afraid to wait for the truth?

*FACE PALM*

130 Dr. Matt  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:17:24am

Massachusetts Congressman: ‘Look at the symbols’ that were attacked in Boston

The Boston Marathon is the oldest marathon in the country, he [Bill Keating (D-MA)] said, with runners coming to compete from more than 100 nations. “So it’s that kind of symbol that a terrorist would look at,” he said. “And also, it’s Tax Day. It’s April 15th, and if it’s a domestic terrorist that hates the government and wants to rebel, that’s a symbol as well.”

131 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:18:04am

re: #115 Four More Tears

A crappy excuse for a man, I’d say.

His Freedom of Speech and Religion allows him to disapprove of contraception and to advise his employyes not to use it. But the law says he cannot deny it to them.

132 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:20:16am

re: #130 Dr. Matt

Massachusetts Congressman: ‘Look at the symbols’ that were attacked in Boston

Who gives a crap about “symbols” when HUMAN BEINGS died.

133 efuseakay  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:23:22am

And so it begins. Creepers claim to have found the Facebook page of the “Saudi person of interest”.

“Take screenshots of all his friends. They are all suspects”

“Another friend of Obama shows up”

“If Obama had a son, I don’t know if his son would look like the Boston bomber, but I’m quite confident I know whether the son would hate America and act like the bomber.”

“If it is him, look into everyone on his friends list.”

“Check all aircraft he’s worked on.”

“Freepers, grab your screenshots before Holder/Omoslem scrub the Facebook page and blame “white conservatives on the internet.”

“MEMO TO OBAMA: Order him returned to his home country.”

“Exactly.

I refuse to believe this 20-yr-old Saudi acted alone, and planted 2 (or more) bombs in that area crawling with cops, then detonated them, then escaped with only “burns.”

All by himself….?

It’s obviously a coordinated effort.”


“Ha! The mozzies don’t realize the jig is up, and nobody believes a word they say.

1,400 years of koran-ordered lying (taqqiya) tends to undermine their credibility.

I don’t trust them any more than I trust their leader (Obamatollah).”

————

Actual quotes. Apparently the OP got his name from a Townhall page. Surprise!

They really have their mind made up. Any news that doesn’t gel with their prejudice = coverup. Really sad.

134 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:26:09am

re: #127 Vicious Babushka

Thanks!

135 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:26:19am

Morning all! HOw is it?

Anyone know the origins of this? I doubt the queen said it, but I can’t find any credible source to explain it.

136 Bulworth  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:26:24am

re: #133 efuseakay

Stay classy, freepers

137 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:27:07am

re: #130 Dr. Matt

Massachusetts Congressman: ‘Look at the symbols’ that were attacked in Boston

Tax day would indicate a Sovereign Citizen type —no?

138 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:27:53am

re: #124 wheat-dogghazi

OT
Hello, dear lizard friends,

I’ve been off taking care of real-life things these last few days. Amid all this grief and hateration, may I inject some happy news? My daughter was married on Saturday in the White Chapel at Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology, Terre Haute, IN. It was a perfect wedding, and we had a great time at the reception.

I’ve been back in the States since April 8 and right now am relaxing in Louisville, KY. My university in China gave me leave until April 29.

I have a cousin at Rose-Hulman right now.

Congrats to your family!!!

139 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:28:12am

re: #137 FemNaziBitch

Tax day would indicate a Sovereign Citizen type —no?

Saudi sovereign citizen?

/

140 efuseakay  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:28:32am

re: #136 Bulworth

Stay classy, freepers

As they always do. Heh “Creepers” was a mobile auto-correct… It actually got something right for a change.

141 Donna Ballard  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:29:36am

Well, what did you expect? The woman is obviously unbalanced and deluded, I say consider the source when looking at anything she says. Garbage in, garbage out. I, for one, will not miss her one bit when she finally disappears from the lime light altogether. Good riddance to bad rubbage!

142 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:29:50am

re: #115 Four More Tears

A crappy excuse for a man, I’d say.

ah, because sex is a vice … .

143 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:30:05am

Really, guys, we don’t need direct references or documentation, it is sufficient to simply state that “there are a lot of ignorant people who are letting us know how stupid they re by making unfounded, bigoted comments on the Internet and Twitter”.

144 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:30:36am

re: #135 FemNaziBitch

Morning all! HOw is it?

Anyone know the origins of this? I doubt the queen said it, but I can’t find any credible source to explain it.

GEORGE WASHINGTON SAID IT!!11!!

145 Dr. Matt  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:31:21am

re: #137 FemNaziBitch

Tax day would indicate a Sovereign Citizen type —no?

Bingo. And don’t forget there was a teabag rally held in Boston this past weekend.

146 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:31:22am

re: #115 Four More Tears

A crappy excuse for a man, I’d say.

One of the major roles of government is to keep employers from treating their employees like chattel. That is not a violation of his religious freedom, it is a matter of upholding his employees personal freedoms

147 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:31:40am

re: #87 darthstar

we should teach both sides of the bible…

everyone should learn Hebrew so they can read it backwards and forwards!

148 Donna Ballard  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:33:47am

re: #124 wheat-dogghazi

Congratulations! I hope she and her new Hubby have a very Happy and Prosperous future ahead of them!

149 Bulworth  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:33:53am

re: #147 FemNaziBitch

Everybody should be made to read the Bible in the one language the whole book was written in—King James English. /

150 Decatur Deb  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:35:00am

It was Boston, people—obviously an IRA splinter group fighting over the NORAID tip jars. Or a Judean People’s Front spinoff cadre.

151 blueraven  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:36:31am

re: #137 FemNaziBitch

Tax day would indicate a Sovereign Citizen type —no?

Not necessarily. There is just not enough information yet to draw any conclusions.
It also could be possible that whoever did this, would try to throw off the feds by using tactics, materials that would point to other groups.

152 efuseakay  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:37:25am

In other news… something we all knew already:

U.S. Practiced Torture After 9/11, Nonpartisan Review Concludes

[quote]The sweeping, 577-page report says that while brutality has occurred in every American war, there never before had been “the kind of considered and detailed discussions that occurred after 9/11 directly involving a president and his top advisers on the wisdom, propriety and legality of inflicting pain and torment on some detainees in our custody.” The study, by an 11-member panel convened by the Constitution Project, a legal research and advocacy group, is to be released on Tuesday morning.

Debate over the coercive interrogation methods used by the administration of President George W. Bush has often broken down on largely partisan lines. The Constitution Project’s task force on detainee treatment, led by two former members of Congress with experience in the executive branch — a Republican, Asa Hutchinson, and a Democrat, James R. Jones — seeks to produce a stronger national consensus on the torture question.[/quote]

Duh… It goes on to say that they didn’t even have access to classified records. Oh, imagine if they did. That whole lot in charge back then could very well be put up for war crimes charges.

153 Donna Ballard  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:37:48am

Gotta go, just wanted to make a quick pop in. I haven’t been posting lately because I just started a new business and my Dads been in and out of the hospital again so I’ve been real busy. Take care all, try to Keep Smiling and Laughing, its laughter that will be the best revenge against those who would try to make us cower in fear with bombs.

154 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:38:19am

re: #153 Donna Ballard

Gotta go, just wanted to make a quick pop in. I haven’t been posting lately because I just started a new business and my Dads been in and out of the hospital again so I’ve been real busy. Take care all, try to Keep Smiling and Laughing, its laughter that will be the best revenge against those who would try to make us cower in fear with bombs.

{{{{Donna}}}}}

155 Donna Ballard  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:40:16am

re: #154 FemNaziBitch

{{{{Donna}}}}}

Thanks! Thant helps a lot, Hugs back to you my friend!

156 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:45:28am

re: #111 Sol Berdinowitz

Everyone but the Royal Family, I guess…

And the bin Laden’s daddy Bush does business with. And the Saudi’s that own part of Fox News network. And …

157 Charleston Chew  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:48:25am

re: #137 FemNaziBitch

Tax day would indicate a Sovereign Citizen type —no?

The fact that it happened on Tax Day does suggest a Timothy McVeigh type. But could be a coincidence.

158 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:48:32am

re: #151 blueraven

Not necessarily. There is just not enough information yet to draw any conclusions.

But more than enough to derp over!!!

If they are right, they gloat, if they are wrong they double down.

159 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:50:56am

re: #157 Charleston Chew

The fact that it happened on Tax Day does suggest a Timothy McVeigh type. But could be a coincidence.

Well, it really doesn’t indicate anything. If one cites tax day as the reason, then it wouldn’t indicate a foreign terrorist, IMHO.

160 Charleston Chew  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:51:56am

re: #157 Charleston Chew

The fact that it happened on Tax Day does suggest a Timothy McVeigh type. But could be a coincidence.

It’s also “Patriot’s Day” in New England commemorating the Battles Of Lexington and Concord, which might be significant to a domestic terrorist who sees themselves as part of a “new” American Revolution.

161 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:52:06am

re: #138 FemNaziBitch

Many thanks!

162 CriticalDragon1177  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:52:11am

re: #129 Vicious Babushka

Wow, like terrorists have never taken responsibility for their terrorist attacks.

163 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:52:51am

re: #162 CriticalDragon1177

Wow, like terrorists have never taken responsibility for their terrorist attacks.

What’s more surprising is that no one has claimed credit.

164 Decatur Deb  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:53:56am

And it could be someone who’s convinced marathoners are the shock force of the invasion fleet from Altair IV.

165 Charleston Chew  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:54:20am

re: #149 Bulworth

Everybody should be made to read the Bible in the one language the whole book was written in—King James English. /

Don’t you mean readeth the Bible?

166 CriticalDragon1177  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:56:33am

re: #163 Vicious Babushka

I know. We still have no idea who did this.

167 Bulworth  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:56:37am

re: #165 Charleston Chew

As thou sayeth…

168 Dr. Matt  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:56:48am

re: #160 Charleston Chew

It’s also “Patriot’s Day” in New England commemorating the Battles Of Lexington and Concord, which might be significant to a domestic terrorist who sees themselves as part of a “new” American Revolution.

Ah, the day Paul Revere was warning the American Patriotic militias about the socialist French invasion
~oSarah bin Palin, History Derp Oh One

169 Decatur Deb  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7:58:22am

re: #166 CriticalDragon1177

I know. We still have no idea who did this.

That comment will cost you 12,500 Internets Expertise Credits.

170 philosophus invidius  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:06:31am

re: #129 Vicious Babushka

*FACE PALM*

The wingnut Sherlock Holmes.

171 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:07:16am

re: #170 philosophus invidius

The wingnut Sherlock Holmes.

More like the wingnut Inspector Clouseau

172 Decatur Deb  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:07:21am

re: #124 wheat-dogghazi

OT
Hello, dear lizard friends,

I’ve been off taking care of real-life things these last few days. Amid all this grief and hateration, may I inject some happy news? My daughter was married on Saturday in the White Chapel at Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology, Terre Haute, IN. It was a perfect wedding, and we had a great time at the reception.

I’ve been back in the States since April 8 and right now am relaxing in Louisville, KY. My university in China gave me leave until April 29.

Sincere congratulation to the couple.

What do they worship in the chapel of an Institute of Technology?

173 bubba zanetti  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:09:06am

re: #143 Sol Berdinowitz

Really, guys, we don’t need direct references or documentation, it is sufficient to simply state that “there are a lot of ignorant people who are letting us know how stupid they re by making unfounded, bigoted comments on the Internet and Twitter”.

Can we get a modified version of the spoiler button marked “MEGADERP” so we can avoid this stuff?

174 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:09:12am
175 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:09:34am
176 Decatur Deb  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:12:51am

re: #173 bubba zanetti

Can we get a modified version of the spoiler button marked “MEGADERP” so we can avoid this stuff?

Kepping a calm eye on derp is important—it’s like watching the animal scat in the woods. Most of it is rabbit shit, but a little is from bears.

177 kirkspencer  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:14:59am

re: #163 Vicious Babushka

What’s more surprising is that no one has claimed credit.

I’ve been pointing this out to a number of people.

Our experience with foreign terrorists is that they always claim credit - sometimes more than one group even.

Our experience with domestic terrorists is mixed.

And I’m going to point out that it’s possible this was “just” a vengeance/ruination attack, by (to pick a hypothetical) a former “race official” who was kicked out and banned for misbehavior. Or a high school / college boy who did it ‘just because’. (See James Holmes aka the batman movie killer)

this silence is, to me, very interesting.

178 efuseakay  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:15:21am

re: #171 Vicious Babushka

More like the wingnut Inspector Clouseau

They’ve already got their own. Sheriff Arpaio.

179 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:15:54am

re: #178 efuseakay

They’ve already got their own. Sheriff Arpaio.

Inspector Clouseau is way classier than Joe Arpaio.

180 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:16:59am

re: #172 Decatur Deb

Sincere congratulation to the couple.

What do they worship in the chapel of an Institute of Technology?

Thanks!

I thought I saw a small statuette of Hephaestus somewhere inside …

181 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:17:04am

I see the Wingnut machine is in full gear blaming Obama. Whatever happened to not criticizing the gov’t after a terror attack?

182 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:17:16am

re: #176 Decatur Deb

Kepping a calm eye on derp is important—it’s like watching the animal scat in the woods. Most of it is rabbit shit, but a little is from bears.

When it comes from an elected official or has some bearing, then it is fine, but we already know that Bryan Fischer is an asshole who cannot keep it clamped even if he has nothing to say.

183 darthstar  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:18:05am

re: #181 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I see the Wingnut machine is in full gear blaming Obama. Whatever happened to not criticizing the gov’t after a terror attack?

That was when we had a white president.

184 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:18:08am

Good morning lizards!

185 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:19:29am

re: #179 Vicious Babushka

Inspector Clouseau is way classier more intelligent than Joe Arpaio.

FTFY.

186 Decatur Deb  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:20:06am

re: #182 Sol Berdinowitz

When it comes from an elected official or has some bearing, then it is fine, but we already know that Bryan Fischer is an asshole who cannot keep it clamped even if he has nothing to say.

He has too many followers to be a rabbit. If we publicize his self-lampooning crap, it’s a real-world gain.

187 philosophus invidius  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:20:40am

re: #177 kirkspencer

I think AQ took a few years before they claimed responsibility for 9/11. In retrospect, that failure to take responsibility added another degree of damage to the US in the form of the belief that the US or Israel was behind the attacks.

188 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:21:14am

re: #181 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I see the Wingnut machine is in full gear blaming Obama. Whatever happened to not criticizing the gov’t after a terror attack?

He is doing what any normal person would do, which is waiting for information before making a statement.

189 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:21:39am

Florida battles slimy invasion by giant snails

(Reuters) - South Florida is fighting a growing infestation of one of the world’s most destructive invasive species: the giant African land snail, which can grow as big as a rat and gnaw through stucco and plaster.

More than 1,000 of the mollusks are being caught each week in Miami-Dade and 117,000 in total since the first snail was spotted by a homeowner in September 2011, said Denise Feiber, a spokeswoman for the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services.

Residents will soon likely begin encountering them more often, crunching them underfoot as the snails emerge from underground hibernation at the start of the state’s rainy season in just seven weeks, Feiber said.

The snails attack “over 500 known species of plants … pretty much anything that’s in their path and green,” Feiber said.

In some Caribbean countries, such as Barbados, which are overrun with the creatures, the snails’ shells blow out tires on the highway and turn into hurling projectiles from lawnmower blades, while their slime and excrement coat walls and pavement.

“It becomes a slick mess,” Feiber said.

A typical snail can produce about 1,200 eggs a year and the creatures are a particular pest in homes because of their fondness for stucco, devoured for the calcium content they need for their shells.

The snails also carry a parasitic rat lungworm that can cause illness in humans, including a form of meningitis, Feiber said, although no such cases have yet been identified in the United States.

Glad these things aren’t in Virginia yet.

190 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:24:16am

re: #189 NJDhockeyfan

Image: 3409935543_ec9d28253d_z.jpg

That’s a pretty good-sized snail.

191 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:24:55am

re: #190 Dr Lizardo

Image: 3409935543_ec9d28253d_z.jpg

That’s a pretty good-sized snail.

I wonder if they are edible or good for fishing bait.

192 kirkspencer  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:25:15am

re: #187 philosophus invidius

I think AQ took a few years before they claimed responsibility for 9/11. In retrospect, that failure to take responsibility added another degree of damage to the US in the form of the belief that the US or Israel was behind the attacks.

A month for the formal claim: October 10, 2001. Bin Laden claimed he was not directly responsible several times during the month preceding the attack, not least because our intel was saying he was and our media was reporting it as such.

193 efuseakay  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:25:39am

re: #179 Vicious Babushka

Inspector Clouseau is way classier than Joe Arpaio.

And smarter.

194 Decatur Deb  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:26:20am

re: #180 wheat-dogghazi

Thanks!

I thought I saw a small statuette of Hephaestus somewhere inside …

Ah—My daughter lives near the Great Shrine.

Image: vulcan-park-statue-in-birmingham-kathy-clark.jpg

195 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:26:38am

re: #189 NJDhockeyfan

Florida battles slimy invasion by giant snails

Glad these things aren’t in Virginia yet.

hmm, why was it we were spending taxpayer dollars on the mating habits of snails?

196 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:26:48am

re: #192 kirkspencer

A month for the formal claim: October 10, 2001. Bin Laden claimed he was not directly responsible several times during the month preceding the attack, not least because our intel was saying he was and our media was reporting it as such.

The Wiki article didn’t say anything about escargot possibilities, but it did say they’re kept as pets.

197 efuseakay  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:27:12am

re: #191 NJDhockeyfan

I wonder if they are edible or good for fishing bait.

Anything is edible with enough garlic!

198 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:28:29am

re: #177 kirkspencer

I’ve been pointing this out to a number of people.

Our experience with foreign terrorists is that they always claim credit - sometimes more than one group even.

Our experience with domestic terrorists is mixed.

And I’m going to point out that it’s possible this was “just” a vengeance/ruination attack, by (to pick a hypothetical) a former “race official” who was kicked out and banned for misbehavior. Or a high school / college boy who did it ‘just because’. (See James Holmes aka the batman movie killer)

this silence is, to me, very interesting.

There are also random stupid assholes who like to make things go BOOM.

It could be Quasimodo for all we know at this point.

199 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:28:45am

re: #191 NJDhockeyfan

My mistake. Apparently, they are eaten by West African forest-dwelling tribes; they’re a source of protein.

200 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:29:28am

Dim Jim has an “exclusive” photo of the “Saudi terrorist” who BLUE UP TEH BOSTON MARATHON!!11

It’s a kid frolicking at Disneyland.

201 Decatur Deb  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:29:29am

re: #190 Dr Lizardo

Image: 3409935543_ec9d28253d_z.jpg

That’s a pretty good-sized snail.

Drawn butter, garlic, white wine—no problem.

re: #197 efuseakay

Anything is edible with enough garlic!

202 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:29:30am

re: #197 efuseakay

Anything is edible with enough garlic!

Always remember and never forget

203 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:30:28am

re: #197 efuseakay

Anything is edible with enough garlic!

There isn’t enough garlic in the known universe to make surströmming edible.

Yeech.

en.wikipedia.org

204 Decatur Deb  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:31:44am

re: #203 Dr Lizardo

(Some text problem with the link)

205 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:32:20am

re: #204 Decatur Deb

(Some text problem with the link)

en.wikipedia.org

206 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:33:29am

re: #204 Decatur Deb

(Some text problem with the link)

Surströmming (pronounced [sʉ̌ːʂtrœmːɪŋ], Swedish “soured (Baltic) herring”) is a staple of traditional northern Swedish cuisine and is fermented Baltic herring. The Baltic herring, known as strömming in Swedish, is smaller than the Atlantic herring, found in the North Sea, and traditionally the definition of strömming (Baltic herring) is herring fished in the brackish waters of the Baltic north of the Kalmar sound. The herring used for surströmming are caught just prior to spawning. The fermentation starts from a lactic acid enzyme in the spine of the fish, and so the fermentation is by autolysis; together with bacteria, pungent smelling acids are formed in the fish such as propionic acid, butyric acid and acetic acid. Hydrogen sulphide is also produced.

The salt raises the osmotic pressure of the brine above the zone where bacteria responsible for rotting (decomposition of proteins) can thrive and prevents decomposition of fish proteins into oligopeptides and amino acids. Instead the osmotic conditions enable the Haloanaerobium bacteria to prosper and decompose the fish glycogen into organic acids, making it sour (acidic). Fermented fish is an old staple in European cuisines; for example the ancient Greeks and Romans made a famous sauce from fermented fish called garum.

At one time a Swedish Royal decree (förordning) that the producers had lobbied for at the end of the 1940s to prevent fish not properly fermented being sold, set sales of the current years’ production in Sweden to begin no earlier than the third Thursday in August. The decree is no longer law, but the trade still abides by the date for the “premiere”.

When opened, the contents release a strong and sometimes overwhelming odour; the dish is ordinarily eaten outdoors. According to a Japanese study, a newly opened can of surströmming has one of the most putrid food smells in the world, even more so than similarly fermented fish dishes such as the Korean Hongeohoe or Japanese Kusaya.

207 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:33:34am

re: #199 Dr Lizardo

My mistake. Apparently, they are eaten by West African forest-dwelling tribes; they’re a source of protein.

We could sell them to France. They love eating snails.

208 Decatur Deb  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:33:36am

re: #205 Dr Lizardo

Wiki is searching on some kind of graphic character and failing.

209 Decatur Deb  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:34:34am

re: #206 Dr Lizardo

Ah—Swedish kimchee.

210 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:34:44am

re: #208 Decatur Deb

See my #206. That’s from the Wiki article.

211 Bulworth  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:35:03am

re: #200 Vicious Babushka

Dim Jim has an “exclusive” photo of the “Saudi terrorist” who BLUE UP TEH BOSTON MARATHON!!11

It’s a kid frolicking at Disneyland.

Well, case-closed then. /

212 efuseakay  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:35:07am

re: #203 Dr Lizardo

There isn’t enough garlic in the known universe to make surströmming edible.

Yeech.

en.wikipedia.org

Ok. A touch of bacon solves everything. It’s the duct tape of the culinary world.

213 A Mom Anon  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:35:24am

re: #200 Vicious Babushka

So now this kid is going to have a boatload of hateful assholes threatening him, publishing his address and phone number. Wonderful. I hope my son’s friends from Iran who live around here aren’t victimized by some moron with a racist ax to grind.

214 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:36:01am

President just spoke. He said “act of terror”.
Unleash the hounds!

215 Bulworth  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:36:05am

re: #200 Vicious Babushka

Better make that another “accuracy in media” award, even after all of this is disproved. /

216 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:36:11am

re: #206 Dr Lizardo

I treid natto, Japanese fermented (as in rotting) soybeans and found it quite tasty.

217 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:36:21am

re: #209 Decatur Deb

It makes kimchee smell like freshly laundered clothes that have been air-dried on a lovely early summer afternoon.

More accurately, it smells like the septic tank backed up and flooded your bathroom. The stench is epic - how anyone can eat is beyond me, and I’m part Swedish.

218 efuseakay  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:37:09am

re: #211 Bulworth

Well, case-closed then. /

This is their ticket out should those responsible be one of their own.

OMAMAO SAVES MOOSLIM TERRAIST FRENDZ AGAIN!!!

219 Bulworth  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:37:10am

re: #214 Backwoods_Sleuth

President just spoke. He said “act of terror”.
Unleash the hounds!

He didn’t say it soon enough!!111!!!! False flag!!

220 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:37:54am

re: #213 A Mom Anon

So now this kid is going to have a boatload of hateful assholes threatening him, publishing his address and phone number. Wonderful. I hope my son’s friends from Iran who live around here aren’t victimized by some moron with a racist ax to grind.

Reminds me of what happened after Newtown. Since Lanza’s brother’s ID was found on him, it was assumed that the brother was the perp and the brother’s FB page was spammed with people calling him a murderer. I do hope they catch whoever did it but people need to be better than that crap.

221 Bulworth  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:38:36am

A Saudi national is the terrorist and we should bomb the whole ME even though the whole thing is a false flag orchestrated by the govt to take away are libertays.

222 Charleston Chew  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:40:01am

According to NYTimes:

Late Monday night, law enforcement officials descended on an apartment building in the suburb of Revere, about five miles north of Copley Square, linked to a man the police took into custody near the scene of the bombings. But on Tuesday morning, one law enforcement official said investigators had determined that the man, who was injured in the blast and was questioned at the hospital, was not involved in the attack.

Saudi connection may be evaporating.

223 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:41:00am

re: #211 Bulworth

Well, case-closed then. /

Nope. This guy has cracked the case. It was North Korea!


224 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:41:12am

re: #222 Charleston Chew

According to NYTimes:

Saudi connection may be evaporating.

I read that earlier, but heaven knows the wingnuts will double down rather than admit they were possibly mistaken.

225 Decatur Deb  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:41:49am

re: #217 Dr Lizardo

It makes kimchee smell like freshly laundered clothes that have been air-dried on a lovely early summer afternoon.

More accurately, it smells like the septic tank backed up and flooded your bathroom. The stench is epic - how anyone can eat is beyond me, and I’m part Swedish.

Some of our neighbors in Seoul used fish in their family kimchee production. Our modern apartment building had large concrete pipes sunk into its perimeter to make fermentation pits for the tenants.

226 Charleston Chew  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:42:10am

re: #223 NJDhockeyfan

Nope. This guy has cracked the case. It was North Korea!

I’m going to start every post with “Guys, stop scrolling!” from now on.

227 Lidane  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:42:13am
228 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:43:37am

re: #227 Lidane

There’s money to be made from fanning the flames.

Sad but true.

229 Lidane  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:43:56am

All these RWNJs should remember:

230 darthstar  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:44:18am

After listening to the news conferences, it appears the letter R is also a casualty.

231 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:44:40am

re: #227 Lidane

Would they count as slander or libel? They’re going to get that guy hurt by continuing to publish his name as if he’s a legit suspect.

232 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:45:37am

Person of interest means just that - but to these bloodthirsty demagogues it is reason enough for a necktie party at the nearest lamp post

233 Charleston Chew  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:46:10am

I keep being reminded that we’re only waist deep in the “48 hrs” rule. MA Gov now says there were no “unexploded” devices found. Last night people were telling me there was one found at my local subway stop.

234 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:46:21am

re: #231 HappyWarrior

Would they count as slander or libel? They’re going to get that guy hurt by continuing to publish his name as if he’s a legit suspect.

I would suggest to the young man filing a rather epic lawsuit. Against FR, for starters, then GatewayPundit, et al.

235 Lidane  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:46:26am

re: #231 HappyWarrior

Would they count as slander or libel? They’re going to get that guy hurt by continuing to publish his name as if he’s a legit suspect.

I’m not an attorney so I have no idea. However, if the nutball bloggers keep targeting him and he gets attacked because of it, I would imagine there are grounds for a lawsuit.

236 Lidane  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:47:27am

Cue the ‘splodey heads:

237 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:47:37am

re: #172 Decatur Deb

Sincere congratulation to the couple.

What do they worship in the chapel of an Institute of Technology?

First Church of Jesus Christ, Computer Programmer.

However, being a member also makes you a traitor to The Computer by default.
O_o

238 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:48:20am

re: #235 Lidane

I’m not an attorney so I have no idea. However, if the nutball bloggers keep targeting him and he gets attacked because of it, I would imagine there are grounds for a lawsuit.

I really wish people would avoid publishing names until the police get a suspect in custody. I sincerely fear that one day we’re going to see someone get killed because some butthead blogger heard a rumor about a suspect in a crime and published it as fact. Vigilante justice is not justice.

239 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:48:53am

Keep Calm

What else is going on in the world that we are ignoring right now?

240 Lidane  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:48:55am

GOP rebranding, part eleventy bajillion:

241 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:49:34am

re: #234 Dr Lizardo

I would suggest to the young man filing a rather epic lawsuit. Against FR, for starters, then GatewayPundit, et al.

Does he have a case? I feel bad for the guy. Really, people can be fucking ghouls. Of course, in the same breath people can be fucking awesome. I read about Bostonians letting Marathon participants crash at their places of residences yesterday.

242 Charleston Chew  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:50:34am

re: #239 FemNaziBitch

Keep Calm

What else is going on in the world that we are ignoring right now?

M 7.8 Earthquake, 83km E of Khash, Iran

243 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:50:38am

re: #241 HappyWarrior

Does he have a case? I feel bad for the guy. Really, people can be fucking ghouls. Of course, in the same breath people can be fucking awesome. I read about Bostonians letting Marathon participants crash at their places of residences yesterday.

I read about Marathon runners who crossed the finish line, then kept running to the Red Cross tent to donate blood.

244 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:51:26am

re: #240 Lidane

GOP rebranding, part eleventy bajillion:

Yeah that was about as predictable as Alex Jones calling this a false flag operation. What’s Shit for Brains King have to say about Tim McVeigh, upstate New York born and raised. I think I can say this without sounding crazy but I think Steve King would have enthusiastically supported the internment of Japanese Americans in WWII.

245 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:51:52am

re: #217 Dr Lizardo

It makes kimchee smell like freshly laundered clothes that have been air-dried on a lovely early summer afternoon.

More accurately, it smells like the septic tank backed up and flooded your bathroom. The stench is epic - how anyone can eat is beyond me, and I’m part Swedish.

So it’s something bad enough that you’d eat durian afterwards in order to get a different taste in your mouth?

246 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:51:54am

WTF


Yeah, that “troubling process” is called INVESTIGATION.

247 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:52:00am

Of course the wingnuts will double down on the “Saudi Connection” because if the guy is let go and it turns out that it was some homegrown/born wacko they’ll claim it was all a conspiracy to let the real terrorist grow and blame some nut here so Obama can justify the tanks and buying all the ammo (heard the tanks/ammo conspiracy in an MMO yesterday).

248 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:52:00am

re: #243 Vicious Babushka

I read about Marathon runners who crossed the finish line, then kept running to the Red Cross tent to donate blood.

I read about that too. These tragedies show the best and worst mankind has to offer.

249 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:52:07am

re: #241 HappyWarrior

Does he have a case? I feel bad for the guy. Really, people can be fucking ghouls. Of course, in the same breath people can be fucking awesome. I read about Bostonians letting Marathon participants crash at their places of residences yesterday.

Good question. At the very least, someone needs to point out to Bryan Fischer and Dim Jim and others that the young man in question is not a suspect, and they need to retract their earlier statements.

250 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:52:57am

re: #246 Vicious Babushka

WTF


Yeah, that “troubling process” is called INVESTIGATION.

Mob justice baby! Bring back lynching! //

251 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:53:29am

Oh shit wingnuts are Tweeting the photos of this kid all over Teh Interwebz.

252 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:53:32am

re: #249 Dr Lizardo

Good question. At the very least, someone needs to point out to Bryan Fischer and Dim Jim and others that the young man in question is not a suspect, and they need to retract their earlier statements.

Believe me I would if I had twitter. Fuck those two.

253 makeitstop  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:53:54am

Some Paulian just called into WFAN (sports talk) in NYC, pushing the ‘false’ flag’ angle.

To the hosts’ credit, they dumped him in short order. But still.

254 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:53:57am

re: #245 Feline Fearless Leader

So it’s something bad enough that you’d eat durian afterwards in order to get a different taste in your mouth?

Pretty much. Eating garbage straight from a Dumpster would be a welcome pallative after surströmming.

255 Charleston Chew  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:54:23am

re: #240 Lidane

GOP rebranding, part eleventy bajillion:

For years I wondered if GOP bigotry was sincere or just a cynical strategy to win votes.

For that I owe them an apology. They’ve convinced me of their sincerity.

256 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:54:53am

re: #246 Vicious Babushka

WTF


Yeah, that “troubling process” is called INVESTIGATION.

I think the subtext is that acts of terror are at least supposed to give us the satisfaction of clearly having Islamist terrorists to blame.

/

257 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:55:12am

re: #241 HappyWarrior

Does he have a case? I feel bad for the guy. Really, people can be fucking ghouls. Of course, in the same breath people can be fucking awesome. I read about Bostonians letting Marathon participants crash at their places of residences yesterday.

I suspect he doesn’t. Libel is dependent in the US on proving malice by the perpetrators if I remember correctly. And what we’re seeing is stupidity and incompetence, which will unfortunately probably prove sufficient as a defense.

258 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:55:14am

re: #253 makeitstop

Some Paulian just called into WFAN (sports talk) in NYC, pushing the ‘false’ flag’ angle.

To the hosts’ credit, they dumped him in short order. But still.

Alex Jones did it not even a couple hours after the bombing happened. I hate that shit. I really do. It’s like everything has to be a sinister conspiracy with him and people like him.

259 Lidane  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:55:19am

re: #251 Vicious Babushka

Oh shit wingnuts are Tweeting the photos of this kid all over Teh Interwebz.

I sincerely hope that kid doesn’t get attacked or worse.

260 Charleston Chew  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:55:23am

re: #246 Vicious Babushka

WTF


Yeah, that “troubling process” is called INVESTIGATION.

He may just be referring to thought itself.

261 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:55:28am

re: #251 Vicious Babushka

Oh shit wingnuts are Tweeting the photos of this kid all over Teh Interwebz.

I’ve seen those photos. He’s hardly your ‘rabid Jihadi’.

The wingnuts are gonna get this kid hurt - or killed. Of course, that’s probably what they want.

262 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:56:40am

The truth is, and we all know this but I am going to say it anyway, that right wingers desperately want it to be a Muslim who did this because it gets them off the hook, justifies continued Islamophobia and fits their preferred narrative about who the real enemies of this country are.

Of course if it does turn out to be one of their own, they will simply dismiss it as a false flag operation, an Obama controlled plot to set them up or some similar Liberal frame job.

They honestly expect to have it both ways.

263 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:57:48am

Within minutes of the bombing people on an MMO I play were already calling it:

A) A false flag to justify attacking NK

B) A false flag to increase Homeland Security

C) A false flag to justify DHS buying tanks and ammo (both devunked)

My fear is it was some homegrown nutball with a grudge driven by the right’s rhetoric and trying to start some sort of rebellion.

264 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:58:08am

I hope the kid is aware of what’s happening and has called police.

265 Decatur Deb  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:58:17am

re: #255 Charleston Chew

For years I wondered is GOP bigotry was sincere or just a cynical strategy to win votes.

For that I owe them an apology. They’ve convinced me of their sincerity.

Some of them are ‘xenophobe-for-profit’ but it does seem to be a more critical element in the RWNJ syndrome. When you find xenophobia in the Left (and you can) it seems more like a pathological graft.

266 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:58:51am

re: #264 Eclectic Cyborg

I hope the kid is aware of what’s happening and has called police a lawyer.

ftfy

267 BongCrodny  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:58:58am

re: #200 Vicious Babushka

Dim Jim has an “exclusive” photo of the “Saudi terrorist” who BLUE UP TEH BOSTON MARATHON!!11

It’s a kid frolicking at Disneyland.

*First* comment from the Hoftbrau:

From Free Republic comment section:
‘NOTE: “About” section says “Interested in Women AND Men.” He also “liked” the Ellen DeGeneres show.

That’s an odd combo for a moslem. Could he be an angry/repressed homosexual moslem (like Obama)?’

Yeah, when I look at Obama that’s the first thing I think of as well: “Yeah, that’s one angry/repressed homosexual moslem.”

268 Lidane  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:59:19am

re: #263 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Was it EVE Online? I can see a lot of conspiracy nutbars and Paulian types loving that game.

269 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 8:59:19am

re: #258 HappyWarrior

Alex Jones did it not even a couple hours after the bombing happened. I hate that shit. I really do. It’s like everything has to be a sinister conspiracy with him and people like him.

Nothing is ever NOT a conspiracy for him. Nothing.

Jones then followed up on his tweet and expanded on his theories in a special webcast dedicated to the false flag conspiracy, claiming, “You saw them stage Fast and Furious. Folks, they staged Aurora, they staged Sandy Hook. The evidence is just overwhelming. And that’s why I’m so desperate and freaked out. This is not fun, you know, getting up here telling you this. Somebody’s got to tell you the truth.”

Jones’ Infowars site has not just one but two perma-links on RWNJ bullshit beacon Druge Report, incidentally.

270 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:00:00am

re: #263 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Within minutes of the bombing people on an MMO I play were already calling it:

A) A false flag to justify attacking NK

B) A false flag to increase Homeland Security

C) A false flag to justify DHS buying tanks and ammo (both devunked)

My fear is it was some homegrown nutball with a grudge driven by the right’s rhetoric and trying to start some sort of rebellion.

I share that fear too given the right’s obsession with thinking they alone are heirs of the Founding Fathers and revolutionaries. The revolution after all started in and around Boston. Whoever did it though and whatever group they’re a part of. I do not want a witch hunt.

271 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:00:14am

Hmm. A Facebook posting just reminded me that today is the 6th anniversary of the Virginia Tech shootings.

272 Charleston Chew  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:00:21am

re: #262 Eclectic Cyborg

The truth is, and we all know this but I am going to say it anyway, that right wingers desperately want it to be a Muslim who did this because it gets them off the hook, justifies continued Islamophobia and fits their preferred narrative about who the real enemies of this country are.

Of course if it does turn out to be one of their own, they will simply dismiss it as a false flag operation, an Obama controlled plot to set them up or some similar Liberal frame job.

They honestly expect to have it both ways.

The same way I really like candy but try to not eat it and then they come out with gummy vitamins “for adults” and it’s such a relief — this is candy I “have to” eat. For health!

273 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:00:43am

re: #237 Feline Fearless Leader

First Church of Jesus Christ, Computer Programmer.

However, being a member also makes you a traitor to The Computer by default.
O_o

Upding for the Paranoia reference, troubleshooter.

274 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:01:17am

re: #271 Feline Fearless Leader

Hmm. A Facebook posting just reminded me that today is the 6th anniversary of the Virginia Tech shootings.

Yeah Senator Warner had that on his facebook yesterday. I still remember that very well being a Virginian and having had many friends and some family attending VT at the time.

275 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:01:20am

re: #262 Eclectic Cyborg

Of course if it does turn out to be one of their own, they will simply dismiss it as a false flag operation, an Obama controlled plot to set them up or some similar Liberal frame job.

There’s another part to the equation: if it turns out to be “one of their own”, it allows them to indulge in their persecution mania.

Wingnut masturbatory fantasies, in other words. There’s nothin’ the wingnuts love more then being persecuted.

276 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:01:26am

Does cranberry juice stop cystitis?

All 24 studies involved a group of people taking some kind of cranberry product, whether in juice, capsule or extract form, for a least a month. If you took all these studies into account, cranberries were no more effective than drinking extra water, a placebo or even doing nothing. The review authors concede that some small studies showed an effect, just as the previous review found, but when they factored in the results of the newest and largest study, the net result was different to the previous review.

277 Charleston Chew  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:01:41am

re: #263 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Within minutes of the bombing people on an MMO I play were already calling it:

A) A false flag to justify attacking NK

B) A false flag to increase Homeland Security

C) A false flag to justify DHS buying tanks and ammo (both devunked)

My fear is it was some homegrown nutball with a grudge driven by the right’s rhetoric and trying to start some sort of rebellion.

God, it’s like people in that MMO live in some kind of fantasy world…

278 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:01:46am

re: #267 BongCrodny

*First* comment from the Hoftbrau:

Yeah, when I look at Obama that’s the first thing I think of as well: “Yeah, that’s one angry/repressed homosexual moslem.”

Well when you’re obsessed with gays and Muslims………….yeah……….

279 Decatur Deb  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:01:58am

re: #271 Feline Fearless Leader

Hmm. A Facebook posting just reminded me that today is the 6th anniversary of the Virginia Tech shootings.

When we have enough atrocities, we can celebrate an anniversary every day.

280 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:02:07am

re: #268 Lidane

Was it EVE Online? I can see a lot of conspiracy nutbars and Paulian types loving that game.

Nah. It was Age Of Conan. That place has been filled with Paultards, Beckites and other nuts since day one. I just turn off global chat and hang with my guild. For the most part my guild seems to be pretty relaxed even if some of them are “right wing”

281 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:02:46am

re: #276 FemNaziBitch

Does cranberry juice stop cystitis?

It’s good to drink, that’s good enough for me. I like having CJ more than OJ with breakfast.

282 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:03:03am

re: #274 HappyWarrior

Yeah Senator Warner had that on his facebook yesterday. I still remember that very well being a Virginian and having had many friends and some family attending VT at the time.

It comes up on mine annually due to one of the professors that was shot and killed being a member of my fraternity.

283 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:03:53am

re: #242 Charleston Chew

M 7.8 Earthquake, 83km E of Khash, Iran

I read about that.

Biggest earthquake in 40 years. No news yet on casualties, communications to the area have been cut.

284 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:04:23am

re: #270 HappyWarrior

Given the following:

A) devices appear to be pipe bombs loaded with shrapnel (ala the nutjob in washington)

B) Attack is on “Patriot’s Day”

C) Attack targets marathon featuring people from around the world

D) Attack happens in Boston (ala Boston tea party)

E) Attack occurs on “Tax Day”

I would be more inclined to believe it was some homegrown nutjob.

285 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:04:24am

Wingnuts excitedly Tweeting “Guy on the Roof” photo.

Did he have a violin?

ITZ TEH JUICE!!11!!

286 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:04:41am

re: #269 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Nothing is ever NOT a conspiracy for him. Nothing.

Jones’ Infowars site has not just one but two perma-links on RWNJ bullshit beacon Druge Report, incidentally.

Jones is a sick man. He really needs to be in a psych ward not hosting a nationally syndicated radio show.

287 geoffm33  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:04:58am

re: #243 Vicious Babushka

I read about Marathon runners who crossed the finish line, then kept running to the Red Cross tent to donate blood.

And on that note, I present this (sorry if already posted):

Image: nfl__g_andruzzi_gb1_600.jpg

and video: espn.go.com

288 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:04:58am

re: #271 Feline Fearless Leader

April is full of all sorts of lovely anniversaries. Tax day, OKC bombing, Waco siege, Titanic sinking, Columbine, VTech, Hitler’s birthday, failed Hitler assassination plot, Earth Day, and even Arbor Day.

I think we really need to be looking into the obvious Arbor Day connection…

289 Decatur Deb  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:05:30am

re: #285 Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts excitedly Tweeting “Guy on the Roof” photo.

Did he have a violin?

Nah. Chimney brush—Cockney.

290 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:05:32am

re: #282 Feline Fearless Leader

It comes up on mine annually due to one of the professors that was shot and killed being a member of my fraternity.

Gotcha. I can’t believe it’s been six years already.

291 Lidane  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:05:49am

re: #280 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Nah. It was Age Of Conan. That place has been filled with Paultards, Beckites and other nuts since day one. I just turn off global chat and hang with my guild. For the most part my guild seems to be pretty relaxed even if some of them are “right wing”

Heh. I played that game in beta. Couldn’t get past the first 20 levels. I tried, but it didn’t grab my attention, even with the nudity.

292 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:05:58am

re: #288 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

someone, I shit you not, said it was probably some eco-terrorist, again in the MMO I play.

293 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:06:14am

re: #288 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

I think we really need to be looking into the obvious Arbor Day connection…

My God! Why didn’t I think of that?! It’s all so obvious now!! //

294 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:06:36am

re: #291 Lidane

Heh. I played that game in beta. Couldn’t get past the first 20 levels. I tried, but it didn’t grab my attention, even with the nudity.

It is far, far better now and really is an awesome MMO. Especially since I am a fan of the stories.

295 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:06:38am

re: #288 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

April is full of all sorts of lovely anniversaries. Tax day, OKC bombing, Waco siege, Titanic sinking, Columbine, VTech, Hitler’s birthday, failed Hitler assassination plot, Earth Day, and even Arbor Day.

I think we really need to be looking into the obvious Arbor Day connection…

Obviously Arbor Day is a false flag to plant trees.

296 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:07:01am

re: #293 Dr Lizardo

I think we really need to be looking into the obvious Arbor Day connection…

My God! Why didn’t I think of that?! It’s all so obvious now!! //

The trees are out to get us. They go a few skiers a few years ago. John Denver, Sonny Bono.

297 Bulworth  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:07:18am

I’m not speculating and am withholding judgment until a real Murican, like Sheriff Joe, tells me who did it.
//

298 Charleston Chew  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:07:34am

re: #284 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Given the following:

A) devices appear to be pipe bombs loaded with shrapnel (ala the nutjob in washington)

B) Attack is on “Patriot’s Day”

C) Attack targets marathon featuring people from around the world

D) Attack happens in Boston (ala Boston tea party)

E) Attack occurs on “Tax Day”

I would be more inclined to believe it was some homegrown nutjob.

This is my gut feeling, but I’m prepared to be wrong.

299 makeitstop  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:07:41am

re: #296 FemNaziBitch

The trees are out to get us. They go a few skiers a few years ago. John Denver, Sonny Bono.

Didn’t Denver die in an ultralight crash?

300 Bulworth  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:08:09am

re: #295 HappyWarrior

Arbor Day is a false flag Agenda 21 scheme. /

301 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:08:10am

re: #296 FemNaziBitch

The trees are out to get us. They go a few skiers a few years ago. John Denver, Sonny Bono.

TEH TREEZ MUST BE DISTROYD!!1!

302 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:08:17am

And now for something completely different:

Syria crisis: UN issues rare joint appeal for action

In a statement, the chiefs of the WHO, Unicef, Ocha, WFP and UNHCR urged political leaders to use their influence to solve the crisis.

They said they were appealing for “something more important than funds”.

303 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:09:16am

re: #284 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Given the following:

A) devices appear to be pipe bombs loaded with shrapnel (ala the nutjob in washington)

B) Attack is on “Patriot’s Day”

C) Attack targets marathon featuring people from around the world

D) Attack happens in Boston (ala Boston tea party)

E) Attack occurs on “Tax Day”

I would be more inclined to believe it was some homegrown nutjob.

Yesterday was also Israel Independence Day.

304 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:09:18am

re: #299 makeitstop

Didn’t Denver die in an ultralight crash?

yeah, you are right.

I just remember a bunch of famous people dying in skiing accidents around the same time. There were tons of jokes about the dangers of trees going around.

305 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:09:24am

re: #301 Dr Lizardo

The trees’ rings say all treefindals should be killed. It’s in the rings! We should listen to Pam Gellwood.

306 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:09:25am

re: #299 makeitstop

Didn’t Denver die in an ultralight crash?

And what was he flying over? Trees. Case closed.

307 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:09:53am

re: #279 Decatur Deb

When we have enough atrocities, we can celebrate an anniversary every day.

Could probably dig around in Wikipedia and find something for every day of the calendar relating to a massacre, atrocity, and/or major war event.

I’m following a couple of WW2 day-by-day threads in a forum. Lots of merchant ships getting torpedoed - no survivors. Which means that 40-50 men are essentially just gone. And this goes completely under the radar in relation to the greater events of the war. Or, for instance, a “minor” raid on Kiska in the Aleutians where a few B-24s get shot down. Another 10-20 lives lost in something that is probably not even a footnote or table entry in a history.

Now military members are knowingly being put in harm’s way, which is quite a bit different than marathon runners getting subjected to an IED. But it is still loss of life and I much prefer not living in a country not in a continual state of war or rebellion.

308 Lidane  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:10:05am
309 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:10:10am

It’s the Planet. She wants us to all die. We itch and cause infections.

310 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:10:28am

re: #304 FemNaziBitch

yeah, you are right.

I just remember a bunch of famous people dying in skiing accidents around the same time. There were tons of jokes about the dangers of trees going around.

Sonny Bono and one of RFK’s son’s, Michael.

311 BongCrodny  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:10:33am

re: #284 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Given the following:

A) devices appear to be pipe bombs loaded with shrapnel (ala the nutjob in washington)

B) Attack is on “Patriot’s Day”

C) Attack targets marathon featuring people from around the world

D) Attack happens in Boston (ala Boston tea party)

E) Attack occurs on “Tax Day”

I would be more inclined to believe it was some homegrown nutjob.

I didn’t want to speculate further than what I’ve already done, but I confess to wondering whether the “dedicating mile 26 to Sandy Hook” and having the bomb go off *at* mile 26 were related.

312 Dr. Matt  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:10:39am

When it is discovered that the bomber is white teabagger “patriot”, the RWNJs will be able to claim it’s government conspiracy because in their heart-of-hearts have already convicted the Disney-loving Saudi.

313 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:11:22am

re: #311 BongCrodny

I didn’t want to speculate further than what I’ve already done, but I confess to wondering whether the “dedicating mile 26 to Sandy Hook” and having the bomb go off *at* mile 26 were related.

We could go thru all the similarities between Lincoln and Kennedy while we are at it. I’m sure there is a correlation in there as well.

314 Lidane  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:11:26am
315 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:11:44am

re: #312 Dr. Matt

When it is discovered that the bomber is white teabagger “patriot”, the RWNJs will be able to claim it’s government conspiracy because in their heart-of-hearts have already convicted the Disney-loving Saudi.

That pretty much sums up the RWNJ mentality.

316 Charleston Chew  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:12:41am

re: #303 Vicious Babushka

Yesterday was also Israel Independence Day.

It’s also the anniversary of Timur defeating Tokhtamysh of the Golden Horde at the Volga and the Golden Horde capital city, Sarai, being razed to the ground with Timur installing a puppet ruler on the Golden Horde throne and Tokhtamysh escaping to Lithuania.

So I guess I shouldn’t jump to conclusions.

317 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:12:42am

re: #313 FemNaziBitch

We could go thru all the similarities between Lincoln and Kennedy while we are at it. I’m sure there is a correlation in there as well.

On the last day of his life, Lincoln visited Monroe, Maryland.
On the last day of his life, Kennedy visited Marilyn Monroe.
//

318 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:13:13am

re: #316 Charleston Chew

It’s also the anniversary of Timur defeating Tokhtamysh of the Golden Horde at the Volga and the Golden Horde capital city, Sarai, being razed to the ground with Timur installing a puppet ruler on the Golden Horde throne and Tokhtamysh escaping to Lithuania.

So I guess I shouldn’t jump to conclusions.

You’re right! How could I have forgotten about that!

319 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:13:20am

Boston Marathon bombing truthers are already crying ‘false flag’

More than 35,000 people were still streaming the Boston Police, Fire and EMS scanner when conspiracy theorists like conservative radio host Alex Jones were already screaming “false flag” about the Boston Marathon bombing. Jones, who you know from his meltdown on Piers Morgan’s show in the wake of the Newtown massacre, took to Twitter and the radio to cry “conspiracy” almost immediately after the attack.

…Salon has more on Jones’ radio appearance on Monday afternoon.

On his radio show, Jones speculated that it may have to do with the sudden drop in the price of gold, a favorite commodity of paranoids everywhere. “With gold plunging, what could this signify?” he asked rhetorically. He also noted that Boston has special significance in American history, and because it’s where one of the planes took off from on 9/11. “I said on air that they’re getting ready to blow something up. To fire a shot heard round the world like at Lexington and Concord, and then they do it at this same place on the same day!” he said. [Salon]

Additionally, Dan Bidondi—of Jones’ InfoWars—managed to ask one of the questions at Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick’s nationally televised press conference.

Why were the loud speakers telling people in the audience to be calm moments before the bombs went off? Is this another false flag staged attack to take our civil liberties and promote homeland security while sticking their hands down our pants on the streets? [Slate]

Lol

320 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:13:25am

re: #314 Lidane

dammit. I have two pressure cookers…I’d better hide them…
//

321 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:14:07am

Amazing Acts of Kindness

322 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:14:30am

Jim Graves will run against Michele Bachmann again

323 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:14:56am

re: #321 FemNaziBitch

Amazing Acts of Kindness

And that’s why I am not a total cynic. People suck and are awesome.

324 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:15:11am

re: #320 Backwoods_Sleuth

dammit. I have two pressure cookers…I’d better hide them…
//

YOU CAN HAVE MY PRESSURE COOKER WHEN YOU PRY IT FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS! FREEDUMB!!1

325 Lidane  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:16:23am

re: #319 NJDhockeyfan

Boston Marathon bombing truthers are already crying ‘false flag’

Fuck those people sideways. Alex Jones and his miserable band of troofer retards can get bent.

326 Charleston Chew  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:16:36am

re: #320 Backwoods_Sleuth

dammit. I have two pressure cookers…I’d better hide them…
//

It’s owning that second one that seems suspicious.

327 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:18:09am

OK how did they use pressure cookers? I’m imagining a pot cooking over a little portable burner and the regulator is shaking away and somebody comes over and takes off the regulator…

328 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:18:35am

re: #326 Charleston Chew

It’s owning that second one that seems suspicious.

I own an assault pressure cooker.

329 blueraven  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:18:53am

re: #284 Dreggas

Given the following:

A) devices appear to be pipe bombs loaded with shrapnel (ala the nutjob in washington)

B) Attack is on “Patriot’s Day”

C) Attack targets marathon featuring people from around the world

D) Attack happens in Boston (ala Boston tea party)

E) Attack occurs on “Tax Day”

I would be more inclined to believe it was some homegrown nutjob.

Patriots day was also Waco…though that was on the 19th
Then Oklahoma city was on April 19th

Still just speculation though.

330 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:19:14am

re: #327 Vicious Babushka

OK how did they use pressure cookers? I’m imagining a pot cooking over a little portable burner and the regulator is shaking away and somebody comes over and takes off the regulator…

maximum shrapnel affect?

331 darthstar  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:20:03am

Win
bostonmarathonconspiracy.com

332 darthstar  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:20:56am

re: #331 darthstar

Win
bostonmarathonconspiracy.com

Hats off to whoever did that.

333 Charleston Chew  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:23:20am

re: #328 Vicious Babushka

I own an assault pressure cooker.

As the founding fathers intended.

334 Dr. Matt  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:23:43am

re: #332 darthstar

Hats off to whoever did that.

Probably a gay, scarf-wearing socialist Muslim

335 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:23:54am

re: #328 Vicious Babushka

I own an assault pressure cooker.

But do you have the semi-auto assault pressure cooker?

336 HoosierHoops  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:24:40am

re: #325 Lidane

Fuck those people sideways. Alex Jones and his miserable band of troofer retards can get bent.

I saw a student on Campus yesterday with a t-shirt that said 911 was an inside job with a stormfront web address on the back.
I walked past him and shook my head and said Jesus man! He didn’t have the balls to even look at me..Figures

337 Dr. Matt  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:24:57am

Westboro to picket Boston funerals, blames ‘fag marriage’ for bombings

I support bad things happening to bad people. That’s all I have to say.

338 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:25:06am

re: #328 Vicious Babushka

I own an assault pressure cooker.

but can it hold more than 30 rounds?

339 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:26:34am

re: #338 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

but can it hold more than 30 rounds?

It can hold more than 30 meatballs!

340 Bear  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:26:40am

Demand background checks before buying pressure cookers!
//

341 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:26:48am

“When pressure cookers are banned, only criminals will have pressure cookers!”
—communiqué from Occupy Mad Canners

342 darthstar  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:26:56am

re: #334 Dr. Matt

Probably a gay, scarf-wearing socialist Muslim

Impeccably dressed to kill wingnut hopes.

343 Dr. Matt  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:27:18am

Was the pressure cooker made by GE? That would result in a cumulative teabagger fake outrage.

344 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:27:34am

re: #342 darthstar

Impeccably dressed to kill wingnut hopes.

and totally FABULOUS!
with a pressure cooker…

345 Lidane  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:27:51am

re: #336 HoosierHoops

I’ve seen a bunch of Alex Jones/Infowars bumper stickers here in Austin. Yeah, it’s got a reputation of being a hippie enclave, but there are plenty of Jones fanboys and Paultards around here too.

346 philosophus invidius  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:28:18am

re: #192 kirkspencer

A month for the formal claim: October 10, 2001. Bin Laden claimed he was not directly responsible several times during the month preceding the attack, not least because our intel was saying he was and our media was reporting it as such.

I stand corrected. But my point still remains that terrorists have some reason to withhold claiming responsibility, namely to sow uncertainty and panic. And also that AQ was successful at this.

347 darthstar  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:28:29am

Man…wish I was there.

Image: 533653_10151345449282307_1648534450_n.jpg

348 Dr. Matt  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:30:09am

re: #345 Lidane

I’ve seen a bunch of Alex Jones/Infowars bumper stickers here in Austin. Yeah, it’s got a reputation of being a hippie enclave, but there are plenty of Jones fanboys and Paultards around here too.

I lived in Texas for 10 years and a lot of the hippies that I came across where libertarian and not liberals. Another reason why Texas is so fucked.

349 Lidane  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:32:08am
350 blueraven  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:32:30am

re: #327 Vicious Babushka

OK how did they use pressure cookers? I’m imagining a pot cooking over a little portable burner and the regulator is shaking away and somebody comes over and takes off the regulator…

More like a pressure cooker with the vent holes plugged up somehow, I would assume.

351 Lidane  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:34:03am

re: #348 Dr. Matt

I lived in Texas for 10 years and a lot of the hippies that I came across where libertarian and not liberals. Another reason why Texas is so fucked.

Tell me about it. SO many hippie types around here are of the anti-vax, conspiracy theory loving variety. Lots of libertarians, Paultards, and just plain dumb people.

352 gwangung  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:34:13am

re: #349 Lidane

What news purpose is served by naming the roommate?

353 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:34:49am

re: #351 Lidane

Tell me about it. SO many hippie types around here are of the anti-vax, conspiracy theory loving variety. Lots of libertarians, Paultards, and just plain dumb people.

Pot can make people mellow, but it can also make people paranoid.

354 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:36:01am

Who Stands Where In A Crowded Elevator And Why?

355 Mattand  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:36:34am

re: #352 gwangung

What news purpose is served by naming the roommate?

Dark-skinned people make great villains/scapegoats.

356 Lidane  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:37:21am

re: #353 Vicious Babushka

Pot can make people mellow, but it can also make people paranoid.

Never did like weed. The few times I smoked it, I always got a headache from it. I’ve been told that’s not supposed to happen, but I’ve never seen the need to try again.

357 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:37:39am

re: #347 darthstar

Man…wish I was there.

Image: 533653_10151345449282307_1648534450_n.jpg


I wish I were here

358 Mattand  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:37:44am

re: #336 HoosierHoops

I saw a student on Campus yesterday with a t-shirt that said 911 was an inside job with a stormfront web address on the back.
I walked past him and shook my head and said Jesus man! He didn’t have the balls to even look at me..Figures

Everyone should remember this the next time some asswipe like Rick Santorum accuses colleges of being liberal brain-washing centers.

359 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:37:55am
360 Lidane  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:38:04am

re: #352 gwangung

What news purpose is served by naming the roommate?

It sells newspapers.

361 Dr. Matt  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:38:42am

Pretty amazing audio and video capture of one of the explosions:

Youtube Video

That’s one hell of a “pressure cooker”.

362 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:39:26am

re: #360 Lidane

It sells newspapers.

People still buy newspapers?

My 89-year-old mom still has a subscription to the LA Times, but only for the crossword puzzle.

363 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:41:04am

re: #360 Lidane

It sells newspapers.

The modern version of that: it gets reTweets, Likes and clickthroughs.

364 Lidane  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:42:06am
365 Lidane  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:42:56am

re: #363 Vicious Babushka

The modern version of that: it gets reTweets, Likes and clickthroughs.

Well, yeah.

And for the old people who still buy newspapers, this sort of thing sells a few extra copies.

366 LWNJ  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:43:09am

On the “just can’t win” front, we just had a phone-in about the Boston Marathon bombings, in which the caller complained that the President was jumping the gun when he spoke of terrorism.

367 CriticalDragon1177  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:44:25am

re: #359 Vicious Babushka

As if we had enough to be upset about.

369 Lidane  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:44:49am

This won’t stop the racists and idiots:

370 Dr. Matt  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:44:50am

re: #327 Alouette

OK how did they use pressure cookers? I’m imagining a pot cooking over a little portable burner and the regulator is shaking away and somebody comes over and takes off the regulator…

I’m venturing a guess, but likely the pressure cooker was simply a vessel/container to hold the explosives and actual pressure cooking was not involved in the denotation. Packing explosives in an airtight (or nearly airtight) container along with ball bearings will magnify the effect. For example, in undergrad we used to pack dry ice in airtight lab vials and as the gas expanded the pressure inside increased until the container integrity failed and then……BANG!…..we would scare the shit out of the lab…. I imagine the same principle applies to using a pressure cooker.

371 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:44:50am

re: #354 FemNaziBitch

Who Stands Where In A Crowded Elevator And Why?

Interesting, but not really good data collection (and some of the comments actually covers some other potential explanations.)

My pet one is seeing how different numbers of people in an elevator sort themselves out; e.g. if four people on the elevator do they sort into the four corners (so to speak) or into some sort of 1-1-2 pattern. And so on.

:)

372 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:47:11am

re: #362 Vicious Babushka

People still buy newspapers?

My 89-year-old mom still has a subscription to the LA Times, but only for the crossword puzzle.

My wife just cancelled her subscription because the delivery person screwed up twice in 1 month. She goes out and buys a copy at least once a week even though I gave her an iPad.

Her main reason for buying the paper? The crossword puzzle and comics.

373 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:47:14am

hmmmmm

374 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:48:51am

re: #371 Feline Fearless Leader

Interesting, but not really good data collection (and some of the comments actually covers some other potential explanations.)

My pet one is seeing how different numbers of people in an elevator sort themselves out; e.g. if four people on the elevator do they sort into the four corners (so to speak) or into some sort of 1-1-2 pattern. And so on.

:)

I’ve never found I had that much choice in a crowded elevator. If you are first on you go to the back and make room for more people. If last one, you have to stand in front, that’s the only room left.

375 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:49:41am

re: #372 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

My wife just cancelled her subscription because the delivery person screwed up twice in 1 month. She goes out and buys a copy at least once a week even though I gave her an iPad.

Her main reason for buying the paper? The crossword puzzle and comics.

When I buy, it’s only for the coupons.

376 philosophus invidius  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:49:54am

re: #369 Lidane

OK, technically he is not a suspect. But then why are the police taking evidence from his apartment? It seems that recently law enforcement is very careful about calling people “suspects,” preferring terms like “person of interest.”

377 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:49:56am

re: #374 FemNaziBitch

I’ve never found I had that much choice in a crowded elevator. If you are first on you go to the back and make room for more people. If last one, you have to stand in front, that’s the only room left.

If you want space - fart.

378 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:52:12am

re: #374 FemNaziBitch

I’ve never found I had that much choice in a crowded elevator. If you are first on you go to the back and make room for more people. If last one, you have to stand in front, that’s the only room left.

I will never go to the back of an elevator, I will move over to the right or the left but never to the back.

That may have something to do with the fact that I am very short and I get claustrophobic if I am squashed up in the middle of a bunch of taller people.

379 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:53:22am

re: #374 FemNaziBitch

I’ve never found I had that much choice in a crowded elevator. If you are first on you go to the back and make room for more people. If last one, you have to stand in front, that’s the only room left.

Breaks down around seven passengers I think due to constriction. But from 3-6 there are some standard patterns I see repeated.

And “first to the back” is a general rule, though I’ve also seen first person in immediately go to a front side. Often a person getting off at one of the first few stops, though not always.

My personal opinion is that elevator dynamics are a socially agreed to suspension of the “personal space” rules due to mutual need to use the elevator. If the passenger number is small enough the people will tend to spread out to maximize personal space within the confines of the elevator car, or at least form a pattern that grants everyone equal additional space.

380 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:53:32am

re: #378 Vicious Babushka

I will never go to the back of an elevator, I will move over to the right or the left but never to the back.

That may have something to do with the fact that I am very short and I get claustrophobic if I am squashed up in the middle of a bunch of taller people.

Yeah, I don’t want anyone touching me.

381 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:54:59am

re: #378 Vicious Babushka

I will never go to the back of an elevator, I will move over to the right or the left but never to the back.

That may have something to do with the fact that I am very short and I get claustrophobic if I am squashed up in the middle of a bunch of taller people.

If five people enter the elevator ahead of you getting there how heavily do you consider passing on that car to take the next one?

382 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:57:03am

re: #381 Feline Fearless Leader

If five people enter the elevator ahead of you getting there how heavily do you consider passing on that car to take the next one?

I would probably wait for the next car.

383 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:58:16am

re: #381 Feline Fearless Leader

If five people enter the elevator ahead of you getting there how heavily do you consider passing on that car to take the next one?

What happens if 5 enter but only 4 leave?

384 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:58:47am

re: #381 Feline Fearless Leader

If five people enter the elevator ahead of you getting there how heavily do you consider passing on that car to take the next one?

depends how I feel and if I’m in a hurry. Usually, I don’t have the patience to wait. I, however, almost always wait for the next car if there is only one or two men in the car.

385 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:59:07am

re: #383 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

What happens if 5 enter but only 4 leave?

No one was polite enough to push the upper floor button for the midget.

386 iossarian  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 9:59:58am

re: #385 Feline Fearless Leader

No one was polite enough to push the upper floor button for the midget.

He was standing on a block of ice!

387 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:00:07am

I’ve gotten off if I see EVERY floor’s button lit-up.

NO patience.

388 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:03:30am

well, Andrea Mitchell has guest talking about pressure cooker bombs…

389 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:04:02am

re: #387 FemNaziBitch

I’ve gotten off if I see EVERY floor’s button lit-up.

NO patience.

Was going down in my apartment building one morning and the car stopped a few floors below mine. A father and son (about 5-6 years old) got on, and the child was disappointed about not being able to hit the “L” button as it was already lit.

So he hit the buttons for the bottom six floors.

The father was visibly upset, made eye contact with me, and I just shrugged without saying anything. Nothing said to the child and we just waited through the elevator stopping six extra times on the way down.

390 AlexRogan  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:04:17am

re: #296 FemNaziBitch

The trees are out to get us. They go a few skiers a few years ago. John Denver, Sonny Bono.

As was said above, Denver died flying a Rutan Long-EZ that he had just bought from the person who built it; he didn’t top off his fuel tanks and the fuel tank switch in the cockpit was in a nonstandard placement for that design that he apparently couldn’t reach inflight, so he ran out of gas and crashed.

As far as the “celebrities running into tress and dying”, besides Sonny Bono, you might have been thinking about one of the Kennedys that that happened to.

391 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:06:49am

re: #376 philosophus invidius

OK, technically he is not a suspect. But then why are the police taking evidence from his apartment? It seems that recently law enforcement is very careful about calling people “suspects,” preferring terms like “person of interest.”

When ‘U.S. law enforcement officials’ say he is not a suspect, why do you say ‘technically he is not a suspect’?

392 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:07:19am

re: #389 Feline Fearless Leader

Was going down in my apartment building one morning and the car stopped a few floors below mine. A father and son (about 5-6 years old) got on, and the child was disappointed about not being able to hit the “L” button as it was already lit.

So he hit the buttons for the bottom six floors.

The father was visibly upset, made eye contact with me, and I just shrugged without saying anything. Nothing said to the child and we just waited through the elevator stopping six extra times on the way down.

Yeah, not much you can do, kids will be kids.

393 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:07:57am

re: #388 Backwoods_Sleuth

well, Andrea Mitchell has guest talking about pressure cooker bombs…

Tell her to skip it, we’ve covered that already.

394 blueraven  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:08:06am

re: #376 philosophus invidius

OK, technically he is not a suspect. But then why are the police taking evidence from his apartment? It seems that recently law enforcement is very careful about calling people “suspects,” preferring terms like “person of interest.”

To rule him out as a suspect?

395 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:14:05am

re: #314 Lidane

BREAKING: Person briefed on probe: Boston explosives made of pressure cookers with metal, ball bearings -MM
— The Associated Press (@AP) April 16, 2013

Betty Crocker did it!

396 CuriousLurker  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:15:38am

re: #376 philosophus invidius

OK, technically he is not a suspect. But then why are the police taking evidence from his apartment? It seems that recently law enforcement is very careful about calling people “suspects,” preferring terms like “person of interest.”

The article said he was cooperating and agreed to the search, so I’m guessing there was no warrant. I didn’t hear anything about evidence being taken from his apartment, but it’s hard to keep up with all the stories and try to separate rumor & speculation from fact.

397 kirkspencer  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:27:01am

re: #352 gwangung

What news purpose is served by naming the roommate?

My opinion: it’s a shiny object. There are a lot of people - media and pundit - who jumped to a conclusion and (metaphorically) shouted it from the rooftops. There’s a nasty price for being wrong, so you’re going to see a lot of unnecessary, irrelevant, and in many cases immaterial information tossed out to reinforce the idea the original jump was correct.

It’s part of why Jewell suffered so much. Yes, he was a person of interest, but the echo chamber started hammering and it locked in a lot of people. Same thing happened in the Anthrax attacks - and there’s some reason to believe they still didn’t get it right. (But the primary suspect committed suicide and there was enough evidence to just let it go, so that’s “considered closed pending new evidence.”)

398 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:29:20am

re: #371 Feline Fearless Leader

Interesting, but not really good data collection (and some of the comments actually covers some other potential explanations.)

My pet one is seeing how different numbers of people in an elevator sort themselves out; e.g. if four people on the elevator do they sort into the four corners (so to speak) or into some sort of 1-1-2 pattern. And so on.

:)

A crowded elevator smells different to a midget.

- Can’t remember the comedian to give credit.


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