Right Wing Blogs’ Massive Fail: Injured Saudi Is a Witness, Not a Suspect

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Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, Jim Hoft, and practically every other right wing blogger on the Internet immediately jumped on a New York Post story that turned out to be false, claiming that a Saudi national had been taken into custody in the Boston bombings. Today the Washington Post reports that the Saudi man was injured in the blasts, and is a witness, not a suspect.

U.S. law enforcement officials said Tuesday that a Saudi national injured in the Boston Marathon bombing is regarded as a witness, not a suspect.

The Saudi, who is recuperating at a Boston hospital, is in his 20s and is in the United States on a Saudi scholarship to study at a university in the Boston area.

The federal officials’ explanation echoed comments by a Saudi official at the country’s embassy in Washington. The embassy official said that a Saudi national has been questioned as a witness but is not regarded as a suspect. The Saudi official cited information provided to the embassy by U.S. law enforcement officials.

“We’re not aware of any Saudi suspect or Saudi person of interest,” said the Saudi official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the preliminary nature of the information.

He declined to identify the young man, but said he sustained serious burn injuries. The official said the victim is cooperating with U.S. investigators and granted permission for his Boston area apartment to be searched.

“He volunteered to have it searched,” the Saudi official said. “He is fully cooperating with authorities.”

Jim Hoft, Dumbest Man on the Internet, is still at it today, showing absolutely no interest in the statements from authorities that the Saudi man is not a suspect: PHOTOS of SAUDI NATIONAL Person of Interest in Boston Custody | the Gateway Pundit.

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296 comments
1 sffilk  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:22:55am

Hopefully this gentleman will be able to shed some light on who the actual perpetrator is.

2 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:22:57am

This is an epic FAIL even for Dim Jim. The photo shows a happy kid frolicking at Disneyland. WTF.

3 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:25:12am

As I said downthread, this shit is going to get someone hurt one day. This is low even for Hoft to keep at it even when it’s been made fully aware that the man in question is not a suspect. Usually his shit is just silly fauxrages but this, this could get someone hurt or even killed.

4 Archangelus  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:25:23am

You just know that the raving idiots will double down and continue to cling to the “Saudi man did it!!1eleventy” line even long after it’s proven utterly false. Behold the birth of a new conspiracy theory…

5 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:26:37am

re: #4 What’s in the box, Jokey?!

You just know that the raving idiots will double down and continue to cling to the “Saudi man did it!!1eleventy” line even long after it’s proven utterly false. Behold the birth of a new conspiracy theory…

Yep even when the actual perp confesses and is found guilty, you’ll have those like DimJim, Alex Jones, and Bryan Fischer just dying to find the sinister conspiracy.

6 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:28:44am
7 William of Orange  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:29:43am

Charles,

I know you don’t have much influence on the Google ads on your blog but the one I’m seeing…. is very tasteless!

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8 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:31:52am

*HEAD DESK*

9 Bulworth  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:32:26am

Will someone please think of the real victims here…wingnut “patriots” and their gunz. //

10 efuseakay  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:34:33am

re: #4 What’s in the box, Jokey?!

You just know that the raving idiots will double down and continue to cling to the “Saudi man did it!!1eleventy” line even long after it’s proven utterly false. Behold the birth of a new conspiracy theory…

Said it a few posts down. This is their way out in the event it’s one of them. Screams of a coverup by the gay Moslem terrorist in the WH covering for his friends.

11 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:37:54am

*HEAD DESK*
*FACE PALM*
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?

12 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:39:00am

re: #8 Vicious Babushka

*HEAD DESK*

#Americans are being slain because the #democrats are clueless when it comes to security. George, come back! #tcot #ctot #p2 #ocra #TGDN
— Rocco (@alcaseltza) April 16, 2013

Yes George, come back. We didn’t lose a few skyscrapers and a few thousand people in this one. You knew how to do it.

// Fucking idiot

13 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:39:39am

bbl

14 Bulworth  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:40:44am

re: #11 Vicious Babushka

PBO not keeping us safe, Americans dead!! but FALSE FLAG!

//

15 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:42:13am

re: #14 Bulworth

PBO not keeping us safe, Americans dead!! but FALSE FLAG!

//

ITZ A DISTRACTION TO TAKE ARE ATTENSHON AWAYE FROM BENGHAZI!!11!!!!

16 Lidane  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:43:08am
17 William of Orange  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:43:27am

re: #11 Vicious Babushka

*HEAD DESK*
*FACE PALM*
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?

Failing to realize the fuck up at Fox is indeed a reason for a *face palm*.

18 Lidane  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:43:31am
19 sugikoi  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:44:54am

I am against all speculation and frankly don’t care so much which variety of scumbag did this, only that we catch them and deal with them in a way that does not lessen us as Americans.

But is it not clear now that the same Saudi has had his apartment searched and that investigators have carried away material including a spool of wire (clearly seen in pictures)?

I think the lesson is to avoid putting your own political stencil on events and let the evidence come out, but that applies to everyone.

20 CuriousLurker  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:45:06am
21 Lidane  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:47:04am
22 Dr. Matt  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:47:39am

news.yahoo.com

“I have done post-attack analyses on attacks around the world, trying to learn lessons. … The timing here, the devices themselves, the ball bearings used—you know, that’s not some kid in his garage putting something together,” Lynch said [Rep. Stephen Lynch, a Massachusetts Democrat].

Though he repeatedly said he didn’t want to get ahead of investigators, Lynch disputed speculation that the devices strongly indicated domestic, rather than international terrorism.

“I don’t think the trappings are … hokey or homegrown,” Lynch said. “Having two explosions, 11 seconds apart, that points to someone who has more competence at this and has training.”

23 Skip Intro  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:48:10am

re: #18 Lidane

Beck Mentioned Bombing To Promote Owning Gold

Ingraham Uses Bombing To Stoke Fears About Immigration Reform

Goddamn asswipes.

24 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:48:13am

re: #19 sugikoi

I am against all speculation and frankly don’t care so much which variety of scumbag did this, only that we catch them and deal with them in a way that does not lessen us as Americans.

But is it not clear now that the same Saudi has had his apartment searched and that investigators have carried away material including a spool of wire (clearly seen in pictures)?

I think the lesson is to avoid putting your own political stencil on events and let the evidence come out, but that applies to everyone.

Is there something unclear about this statement?

U.S. law enforcement officials said Tuesday that a Saudi national injured in the Boston Marathon bombing is regarded as a witness, not a suspect.

25 EXCLUSIVE!  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:49:06am

Oh to be as smart as these Members Of Mensa and have it all figured out. Once again “Conservative” pundits and supporters cover themselves in filth. Oh and let’s not forget GOP politicians. A very hearty fuck you to the entire lot of them. Re-Branding continuing.

26 Lidane  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:49:14am

re: #19 sugikoi

I think the lesson is to avoid putting your own political stencil on events and let the evidence come out, but that applies to everyone.

Try applying it to yourself, too.

The authorities have outright said he’s not a suspect. He’s a witness.

27 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:49:40am

re: #19 sugikoi

But is it not clear now that the same Saudi has had his apartment searched and that investigators have carried away material including a spool of wire (clearly seen in pictures)?

Link? Don’t bother if it’s the NY Post.

28 Dr. Matt  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:49:44am

I think the vast majority of these teabagging RWNJs want to believe the government is involved because it will give them a chance to break out their 9 mms and 45 ACPs and attempt overthrow the gov.

29 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:50:19am

Early media sources said he was “acting suspiciously” and “trying to run away.”

Yes he was TRYING TO RUN AWAY BECAUSE HE WAS ON FREAKING FIRE!!11

30 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:50:38am

re: #21 Lidane

An outstanding point.

While it’s tempting to imagine the bomber(s) could’ve been wingnuts, jihadis, Sovereign Citizens, or what have you, until someone is apprehended, it’s all guessing.

For all anyone knows, it could’ve been a ‘mad bomber’ - a psychopath who just wanted to blow some folks up for no particular reason whatsoever.

31 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:50:56am

re: #26 Lidane

Try applying it to yourself, too.

The authorities have outright said he’s not a suspect. He’s a witness.

They’re obviously lying so the illegal alien, muslim, atheist hordes become complacent.

32 Dr. Matt  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:51:42am

re: #19 sugikoi

But is it not clear now that the same Saudi has had his apartment searched and that investigators have carried away material including a spool of wire (clearly seen in pictures)?
.

booga booga booga…..scary spools of wire!!! booga booga booga…..scary spools of wire in a Saudi’s apartment?!?!?!?! ewwwwwwwwww. *trembling*

33 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:52:09am

re: #20 CuriousLurker

Oh, noes!! A ‘laborious process’? Where’s the fun in that?

34 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:52:40am
35 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:53:03am

I hate all those unpopped kernels.

36 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:53:09am

re: #32 Dr. Matt

booga booga booga…..scary spools of wire!!! booga booga booga…..scary spools of wire in a Saudi’s apartment?!?!?!?! ewwwwwwwwww. *trembling*

Uh, I have several spools of wire, and two friends of ours were in Boston at the time.

37 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:53:58am

re: #19 sugikoi

I think you should take your own advice.

38 geoffm33  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:54:03am

re: #36 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Uh, I have several spools of wire, and two friends of ours were in Boston at the time.

BUT….can you account for all of your registered crock pots?

39 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:54:12am

re: #19 sugikoi

I am against all speculation and frankly don’t care so much which variety of scumbag did this, only that we catch them and deal with them in a way that does not lessen us as Americans.

But is it not clear now that the same Saudi has had his apartment searched and that investigators have carried away material including a spool of wire (clearly seen in pictures)?

I think the lesson is to avoid putting your own political stencil on events and let the evidence come out, but that applies to everyone.

I have a couple spools of wire in my basement. Also have a cell phone. Should I be a suspect?

40 Lidane  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:54:36am

re: #30 Dr Lizardo

Sure.

Personally, I suspect that it’s a homegrown far right nutter. The bombings were on April 15th — Tax Day. They were in Boston, home of the tea party that the nutters have latched on to as a symbol. And with all the far right crazy we’ve seen in this country since Obama got elected, it wouldn’t surprise me.

Still, we don’t know anything yet. It’s ALL meaningless guesswork until law enforcement figures out what the hell happened and why and who did it.

41 sugikoi  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:54:38am

re: #27 wrenchwench

Link? Don’t bother if it’s the NY Post.

Let me repeat that I really don’t think it matters why the person who did this thinks they did it or what cause they think they are promoting (and of course actually smearing).

Calling a suspect a witness is obviously the smartest thing to do in light of past rush to judgments and to keep the witness from becoming uncooperative. I believe the police are acting very appropriately.

Isn’t any speculation kind of using tragedy for one’s own politics?

Let the facts come out.

Here is the link:
Link

42 Lidane  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:55:32am

re: #41 sugikoi

The Daily Fail is your source? Really?

LOL forever.

43 bratwurst  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:55:35am

re: #41 sugikoi

Here is the link:
Link

Wow, you are off to a great start around here!

44 Dr. Matt  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:55:46am

re: #39 Eventual Carrion

I have a couple spools of wire in my basement. Also have a cell phone. Should I be a suspect?

I have several spools of wire and a cell phone PLUS a pressure cooker! Oh crap…..Charles, delete my IP addie!

45 CuriousLurker  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:55:52am

re: #27 wrenchwench

Link? Don’t bother if it’s the NY Post.

I’m wondering how many people don’t have a spool of wire in their house/apartment, not to mention how many other tools, appliances, etc. any one of us owns that might be considered “suspicious” in the context of a bombing. I’ll bet your bike shop if full of stuff.

46 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:55:57am

re: #41 sugikoi

The Daily Mail. Now there’s a shock. The British equivalent of the New York Post.

47 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:56:15am

“Person of Interest” is not a suspect.

But it was enough to have people ready to hold a necktie party.

But don’t expect these people to understand nuances of criminal investigations, they failed Civics 101

48 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:56:22am

My ever-expanding surveillance and espionage network now has a source inside a local sporting goods outlet. The source reports an attempted run on guns and ammunition after the news from Boston broke. I say “attempted” because the store had in fact been cleaned out during earlier runs. This time, a number of the usual suspects showed up looking for any scraps of ammunition that might have been overlooked earlier. In the minds of the wingnuts, the Boston bombing is simply another false flag or lefty/Muslim outrage that can be exploited to take their guns, even though no guns were involved.

49 Dr. Matt  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:57:00am
sugikoi
Registered since: Apr 16, 2013 at 10:41 am
No. of comments posted: 3
Karma: -11

Bravo.

50 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:57:16am

re: #38 geoffm33

BUT….can you account for all of your registered crock pots?

I had two pressure cookers.

51 sugikoi  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:57:18am

re: #39 Eventual Carrion

I have a couple spools of wire in my basement. Also have a cell phone. Should I be a suspect?

uh… I don’t think spools of wire are necessarily proof of anything.

I do think the police removed wire from the apartment of the witness, which makes me think they consider him more than just a witness.

I don’t want this to be a Muslim. I hate that kind of speculation too. Whoever did this is a scumbag and why they think they did it does not matter to me.

52 geoffm33  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:57:58am

re: #50 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

I had two pressure cookers.

Damnit I botched the joke!

53 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:58:15am

re: #41 sugikoi

Concern troll is concerned.

54 CuriousLurker  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:58:15am

re: #33 wrenchwench

Oh, noes!! A ‘laborious process’? Where’s the fun in that?

Yeah, let’s just form some posses, round up some suspects, lynch ‘em, and let God sort ‘em out.

55 sugikoi  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:58:28am

re: #46 Charles Johnson

The Daily Mail. Now there’s a shock. The British equivalent of the New York Post.

Wait, so a picture in the NY Post or Daily Mail is not a picture?

56 gwangung  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:58:30am

re: #51 sugikoi

uh… I don’t think spools of wire are necessarily proof of anything.

I do think the police removed wire from the apartment of the witness, which makes me think they consider him more than just a witness.

Why? Because if I were police, I’d be thorough, taking evidence out to rule out a person.

57 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:58:41am

re: #46 Charles Johnson

The Daily Mail. Now there’s a shock. The British equivalent of the New York Post.

LOL. The New York Post meets the National Enquirer and has a child that redefines the meaning of “ugly kid”.

58 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:58:41am

re: #41 sugikoi

Isn’t any speculation kind of using tragedy for one’s own politics?

Let the facts come out.

Here is the link:
Link

From your link:

Bomb squad among 20 officers combing flat, bags of evidence removed
Saudi suspect, 20, under guard in hospital after ‘acting suspiciously’ in area
Police also hunting dark skinned man with hooded dark-colored sweatshirt and backpack seen trying to get into restricted area
Speculation mounts over who could be behind the attack that left three dead
Fingers point towards either Islamic militants or right-wing extremists who chose to attack on symbolic Patriot’s Day

Did they leave anyone out? Oh, wait, speculation is bad….

59 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:58:58am

re: #52 geoffm33

Damnit I botched the joke!

The fail is mine.

60 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:59:06am

re: #52 geoffm33

Damnit I botched the joke!

Badumpbump! Ksssh!

Did that help?

61 Tigger2  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:59:07am

re: #8 Vicious Babushka

*HEAD DESK*

We haven’t even approached 3000, George stay away.

62 abolitionist  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 10:59:27am

re: #41 sugikoi

There seems to be much editorializing in that headline/link, etc.

63 Dr. Matt  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:00:02am
re: #51 sugikoi
uh… I don’t think spools of wire are necessarily proof of anything.

Then why did you make this comment?

re: #19 sugikoi
But is it not clear now that the same Saudi has had his apartment searched and that investigators have carried away material including a spool of wire (clearly seen in pictures)?

64 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:00:19am

re: #55 sugikoi

Wait, so a picture in the NY Post or Daily Mail is not a picture?

How do you know that spool of wire didn’t belong to the investigators? If it was evidence of something, they wouldn’t be carelessly carrying it with their bare hands.

This is really stupid.

65 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:01:05am

re: #64 Charles Johnson

How do you know that spool of wire didn’t belong to the investigators? If it was evidence of something, they wouldn’t be carelessly carrying it with their bare hands.

This is really stupid.

They didn’t have a specimen bag handy.

66 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:01:34am

re: #55 sugikoi

Do you seriously believe this is how police would treat evidence in a terrorist attack?

Image: ZZ554B71E4.jpg

67 sugikoi  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:01:58am

re: #63 Dr. Matt

Then why did you make this comment?

Because the fact that the police went to his house and removed potentially relevant things (sometimes a pressure cooker is just a pressure cooker) means that while they are calling him a witness they are investigating him.

If he is innocent I am happy for him and for the cooling down of speculative flames about Muslims.

Not sure why saying we should never apply political stencils to unfolding events is controversial.

68 Lidane  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:02:11am
69 CriticalDragon1177  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:02:24am

As you guys might imagine, Spencer is still refusing to admit to even the possibility that he was wrong.

70 Dr. Matt  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:03:56am

re: #67 sugikoi

Because the fact that the police went to his house and removed potentially relevant things .

What “relevant things” were removed?

71 Lidane  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:04:13am

re: #67 sugikoi

Because the fact that the police went to his house and removed potentially relevant things (sometimes a pressure cooker is just a pressure cooker) means that while they are calling him a witness they are investigating him.

NO. That’s not how it works. You’re just proving your ignorance here.

They wouldn’t be carrying evidence with their bare hands. There are enough goddamn cop shows and CSIs on TV for even the dumbest Fox News addled viewer to know that cops handle all evidence with gloves on.

72 sugikoi  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:04:58am

re: #66 Charles Johnson

Do you seriously believe this is how police would treat evidence in a terrorist attack?

Image: ZZ554B71E4.jpg

If it is not live than yes.

The thing is we don’t know.

It may be a jihadi, why not? It might be a right wing whacko or a former Occupier.
I only commented because I find the investment into which type of bad guy it is to be a creepy after effect. It seems a fight in itself whose favorite boogie man did this.

73 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:05:00am

re: #66 Charles Johnson

Do you seriously believe this is how police would treat evidence in a terrorist attack?

Image: ZZ554B71E4.jpg

How do we know that picture is of the FBI leaving a specific apartment?

74 dragonath  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:05:07am

Whoa, spools of wire. Hey, I bet some people own guns too.

Spooling while muslim, man.

75 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:05:23am

re: #69 CriticalDragon1177

As you guys might imagine, Spencer is still refusing to admit to even the possibility that he was wrong.

Tell Mr. Assclown there that he’s be cleared. As per the Saudi Embassy. See post #34.

76 Lidane  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:06:05am

re: #72 sugikoi

If it is not live than yes.

The thing is we don’t know.

We DO know. And you’re an idiot.

77 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:06:10am

re: #72 sugikoi

If it is not live than yes.

Good thing you’re not a policeman, then.

This is getting even stupider.

78 Dr. Matt  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:06:23am

re: #75 Dr Lizardo

Tell Mr. Assclown there that he’s be cleared. As per the Saudi Embassy. See post #34.

But, but, but….wire spools!!! YELLOW wire spools!!!!!!

79 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:06:52am

re: #78 Dr. Matt

But, but, but….wire spools!!! YELLOW wire spools!!!!!!

You wireist!

80 Lidane  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:06:56am

re: #74 dragonath

Whoa, spools of wire. Hey, I bet some people own guns too.

Spooling while muslim, man.

I don’t own any guns, but I DO have a few spools of wire lying around.

Scary!

81 Skip Intro  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:07:12am

re: #64 Charles Johnson

How do you know that spool of wire didn’t belong to the investigators? If it was evidence of something, they wouldn’t be carelessly carrying it with their bare hands.

This is really stupid.

In the picture the third guy is holding a smoke, the second guy could be carriying the fuse, and the first guy obviously has the bomb in his backpack.

I say book ‘um, Danno.

82 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:07:49am

re: #54 CuriousLurker

Look what else is in that article:

Fifth, police and federal agents will contact all of their informants in Islamist cells and American right wing and Aryan supremacist groups. They will offer rewards for leads, for suspicions.

Islamist cells, right wingers and Aryan supremacists in the same sentence!!!

83 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:07:55am

re: #78 Dr. Matt

But, but, but….wire spools!!! YELLOW wire spools!!!!!!

Yes, the infamous SPOOL OF YELLOW WIRE! Saints preserve us. /

I’m sure the bigot brigade will be having a sad very, very soon.

84 bubba zanetti  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:08:02am

re: #66 Charles Johnson

Do you seriously believe this is how police would treat evidence in a terrorist attack?

Sure looks like cat 6 to me. but whatever it is, seems a little overkill in gauge and length for something detonated remotely.

85 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:08:04am

re: #72 sugikoi

If it is not live than yes.

The thing is we don’t know.

It may be a jihadi, why not? It might be a right wing whacko or a former Occupier.
I only commented because I find the investment into which type of bad guy it is to be a creepy after effect. It seems a fight in itself whose favorite boogie man did this.

Excuse me, but where exactly have I ever said anything about which “favorite boogie man” did this?

It’s pretty clear that you’ve swallowed the right wing propaganda whole, and lecturing anyone else about not jumping to conclusions is rich.

86 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:09:01am

My first thought when I read a news report that a do-gooder had tackled a Saudi national and detained him until police arrive was that some innocent Saudi man was tackled for no reason. (A news report that I’m not sure was completely accurate either.)

Sadly, my 6th sense was accurate.

87 dragonath  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:09:14am

Newark Electronics, your clearinghouse for terrorist supplies

88 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:09:25am

re: #73 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

How do we know that picture is of the FBI leaving a specific apartment?

The caption at Getty Images names the building, but no specific apartment.

89 geoffm33  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:09:41am

re: #84 bubba zanetti

Sure looks like cat 6 to me. but whatever it is, seems a little overkill in gauge and length for something detonated remotely.

Maybe he got a good deal at a Circuit City liquidation sale?

90 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:10:22am

re: #84 bubba zanetti

Sure looks like cat 6 to me. but whatever it is, seems a little overkill in gauge and length for something detonated remotely.

I don’t think Ethernet cable is the wire of choice for bomb-makers.

91 CuriousLurker  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:10:36am

re: #87 dragonath

Newark Electronics, your clearinghouse for terrorist supplies

Home Depot! Lowe’s! Ace! True Value!

92 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:11:39am

re: #91 CuriousLurker

Home Depot! Lowe’s! Ace! True Value!

ALL TEH HOME IMPROOFMINT STOREZ MUST BE SHUT DOWN!!1!

93 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:11:46am

You would think that the Right would try to blame “Occupy Boston” rather than some random Saudi. Wouldn’t that advance their cause more?

94 jaunte  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:11:56am

My building is surrounded by wires. I can’t go home.

95 Lidane  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:12:16am

Well, that solves everything:

96 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:12:17am

re: #55 sugikoi

Wait, so a picture in the NY Post or Daily Mail is not a picture?

So was a picture of the union protesters in Wisconsin, with palm trees in the background. I can attribute a picture as anything I want. And I can photo shop a man standing in the foreground picking his nose with a wire brush. Consider the source and their track record when viewing/reading.

97 bubba zanetti  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:12:35am

I feel stupid for even googling this.

98 simoom  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:12:59am

nytimes.com

Late Monday night, law enforcement officials descended on an apartment building in the suburb of Revere, about five miles north of Copley Square, linked to a man the police took into custody near the scene of the bombings. But on Tuesday morning, one law enforcement official said investigators had determined that the man, who was hurt in a blast and was questioned at the hospital, was not involved in the attack.

[edit: oops, I see this was already posted a couple threads back: littlegreenfootballs.com ]

99 sugikoi  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:13:01am

re: #85 Charles Johnson

Excuse me, but where exactly have I ever said anything about which “favorite boogie man” did this?

It’s pretty clear that you’ve swallowed the right wing propaganda whole, and lecturing anyone else about not jumping to conclusions is rich.

I looked at your site because I remember years ago it was good for live unfolding commentary and yes, it seems to me that it is important for you that Robert Spencer is wrong.

I know for a fact that it is important for Spencer that a Muslim did this but I hold him to less of a standard.

The conclusion I lept to is that when police are taking bags out of an apartment and calling someone a witness they are calculating legally and strategically. That is to say there are good reasons (besides begin a bigot who wants this to be a Muslim) for thinking that he is in fact a suspect.

I hope the Saudi kid is cleared. I don;t care which variety of freak did this.

100 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:13:25am

re: #93 ReamWorks SKG

You would think that the Right would try to blame “Occupy Boston” rather than some random Saudi. Wouldn’t that advance their cause more?

Not at all; the right has it in for Muslims. If you go deep into RWNJ territory, they openly espouse exterminationist sentiment toward Muslims.

101 Kragar  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:13:35am

Beck: Muslims Responsible for Boston Bombing Because American Terrorists Always Target the Government

Last night, Glenn Beck went on the air shortly after the bombing at the Boston Marathon happened and even though very little was known at the time, Beck understandably felt obligated to cover it.

It was fascinating to watch the reporters who actually work for The Blaze try to do their job of reporting what is actually known while answering questions from Beck, who is under no such constraints and feels free to just randomly speculate about how this couldn’t have been carried out by an America, because Americans who do things like this always target the government, not streets filled with people [tell that to Eric Rudolph.]

Beck also speculated that we might never know the “true story” of what happened because the Obama administration is soft of Islamic terrorism and doesn’t think al Qaeda exists, so they will have to “spin this” to hide the truth if it was carried out by Islamic extremists:

102 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:14:39am

Certainly, nearly everyone who speculates will end up with his foot in his mouth! (But, at least, they’re not blaming the Jews. yet)

103 CuriousLurker  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:15:11am

re: #94 jaunte

My building is surrounded by wires. I can’t go home.

I have all kinds of wires coming out of my computers, printers, modem, router, WAP, etc. Luckily, none of them are yellow, so I hope that means I’m in the clear.

104 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:15:13am

re: #101 Kragar

Beck: Muslims Responsible for Boston Bombing Because American Terrorists Always Target the Government

Right. I’m sure the little girls at the 16th Street Baptist Church would disagree with that Glenn. Stupid scumbag.

105 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:15:32am

re: #99 sugikoi

I looked at your site because I remember years ago it was good for live unfolding commentary and yes, it seems to me that it is important for you that Robert Spencer is wrong.

I know for a fact that it is important for Spencer that a Muslim did this but I hold him to less of a standard.

The conclusion I lept to is that when police are taking bags out of an apartment and calling someone a witness they are calculating legally and strategically. That is to say there are good reasons (besides begin a bigot who wants this to be a Muslim) for thinking that he is in fact a suspect.

I hope the Saudi kid is cleared. I don;t care which variety of freak did this.

The authorities have said outright that the Saudi man is NOT A SUSPECT. This has nothing to do with my history with Robert Spencer, who is a raving bigot and hate group leader. It has to do with FACTS.

106 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:15:44am

re: #102 ReamWorks SKG

Certainly, nearly everyone who speculates will end up with his foot in his mouth! (But, at least, they’re not blaming the Jews. yet)

You should try reading zerohedge.

107 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:16:05am

re: #90 Charles Johnson

I don’t think Ethernet cable is the wire of choice for bomb-makers.

I only use it for quad-core bombs.

Oops, just say that out loud?

108 Lidane  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:16:24am

re: #102 ReamWorks SKG

(But, at least, they’re not blaming the Jews. yet)

Alex Jones will get there eventually.

109 Dr. Matt  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:16:46am

re: #95 Lidane

Glenn Beck says Boston bombing must have been carried out by Muslims b/c Americans always target the government: bit.ly/11acnaf
— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) April 16, 2013

Debunked: RWNJs murdering OB/Gyn physicians

110 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:17:14am

re: #107 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

I only use it for quad-core bombs.

Oops, just say that out loud?

GOOD GOD, MAN, INNER MONOLOGUE! INNER MONOLOGUE!!

111 celticdragon  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:17:54am

re: #19 sugikoi

But is it not clear now that the same Saudi has had his apartment searched and that investigators have carried away material including a spool of wire (clearly seen in pictures)?

TPM reports that the individual invited the police to search the apartment and has been fully cooperating.

I am not sure what I would do in his circumstance, since talking to the police when you are under suspicion can be dangerous for you even if you are as pure as the driven snow. Normally innocuous behavior can be interpreted as suspicious and damning when cast under the right light. (like running away from a bomb that just badly burned you, for instance)

112 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:18:13am

I just checked Al*x J*n*s. They’re blaming the Jews!

113 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:18:30am

re: #99 sugikoi

I looked at your site because I remember years ago it was good for live unfolding commentary and yes, it seems to me that it is important for you that Robert Spencer is wrong.

I know for a fact that it is important for Spencer that a Muslim did this but I hold him to less of a standard.

The conclusion I lept to is that when police are taking bags out of an apartment and calling someone a witness they are calculating legally and strategically. That is to say there are good reasons (besides begin a bigot who wants this to be a Muslim) for thinking that he is in fact a suspect.

I hope the Saudi kid is cleared. I don;t care which variety of freak did this.

Police took stuff out of an apartment building. You say it was the Saudi man’s apartment.

You hold Spencer to less of a standard. What standard do you hold yourself to?

114 Dr. Matt  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:18:46am

I’ll give you my spool of yellow wire when you pry it from my cold, dead hands.

115 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:18:57am

re: #112 ReamWorks SKG

I just checked Al*x J*n*s. They’re blaming the Jews!

So the Guy on the Roof had a violin!

116 Dr. Matt  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:19:31am

re: #112 ReamWorks SKG

I just checked Al*x J*n*s. They’re blaming the Jews!

Was it a Kosher pressure cooker?

117 CuriousLurker  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:20:15am

re: #102 ReamWorks SKG

Certainly, nearly everyone who speculates will end up with his foot in his mouth! (But, at least, they’re not blaming the Jews. yet)

Um, yes, they are. Don’t remember where I saw it—maybe someone’s Twitter feed—but yesterday there were claims of a Zionist conspiracy (you know, the Jewish cabal that controls our government when the Muslim Kenyan usurper isn’t looking).

118 celticdragon  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:20:18am

re: #99 sugikoi

The conclusion I lept to is that when police are taking bags out of an apartment and calling someone a witness they are calculating legally and strategically.

The same thing happened right after the Oklahoma City bombing. The FBI detained an Arabic man at the airport, took his luggage and announced they found “tools and items that would be useful to a bomb maker”.

That worked out real well, right? The “tools” were a pair of pliers or some such and some tape, I think.

119 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:20:21am

re: #112 ReamWorks SKG

I just checked Al*x J*n*s. They’re blaming the Jews!

On a day that ends with a ‘y’??? You can’t be serious!!

120 bubba zanetti  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:20:26am

When cat 6 is outlawed only the outlaws will have cat 6, the rest of us will have cable modems with integrated wifi.

121 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:20:27am

re: #101 Kragar

Beck: Muslims Responsible for Boston Bombing Because American Terrorists Always Target the Government

Unless they are shooting at random bastards on freeways, movie theaters, colleges, elementary schools, etc… If nothing else they just mail their bombs to people from their backwoods hideaway.

122 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:20:48am

re: #109 Dr. Matt

Debunked: RWNJs murdering OB/Gyn physicians

Yep or the children murdered in OKC. But of course I bet Glenn has convinced himself that McVeigh and Nichols were lefties because no true conservative.

124 celticdragon  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:21:09am

re: #116 Dr. Matt

Was it a Kosher pressure cooker?

Damn those explosive gefilte fish!

125 CuriousLurker  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:21:39am

re: #107 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

I only use it for quad-core bombs.

Oops, just say that out loud?

Dude, don’t even joke like that right now. You don’t want your door getting bashed in at 3am.

126 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:21:55am

re: #117 CuriousLurker

Um, yes, they are. Don’t remember where I saw it—maybe someone’s Twitter feed—but yesterday there were claims of a Zionist conspiracy (you know, the Jewish cabal that controls our government when the Muslim Kenyan usurper isn’t looking).

Hey, yesterday was Israel Independence Day!

127 jaunte  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:22:59am

The Only Logical Response To Boston Marathon Bombing Is To Make Glenn Beck Wealthier

“…A quick check of Beck’s website showed banner ads from both Goldline and another gold dealer, APMEX, both of which accept your useless so-called “dollars” in exchange for their precious stores of gold, the fools.”

128 celticdragon  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:23:17am

re: #122 HappyWarrior

Yep or the children murdered in OKC. But of course I bet Glenn has convinced himself that McVeigh and Nichols were lefties because no true conservative.

Yeah, I have noticed that particular zombie version of No True Scotsman. Any RWNJ who kills cops or is caught on the Oakland Bridge with stuff to blow up the Tides Foundation immediately becomes a lefty moonbat. False flag, also, too.

129 stabby  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:24:25am

re: #15 Vicious Babushka

ITZ A DISTRACTION TO TAKE ARE ATTENSHON AWAYE FROM BENGHAZI!!11!!!!

Oh noes!!! Wingnut has merged with lolcat!
Image: b2983afe-8c08-4351-808f-131f787f6ca9.jpg

130 Kragar  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:24:31am

Pat Buchanan Calls For ‘A New Era Of Civil Disobedience’ Against LGBT Equality

As the LGBT community continues to challenge and win discrimination — be it by florists, bed & breakfasts, or T-shirt printers — conservatives have claimed that they are victims because their religious privilege should entitle them to discriminate. These arguments have increasingly become transparent, revealing that their intent to mistreat the LGBT community supersedes what their beliefs actually require of them. This is most apparent in a new op-ed from Fox New contributor Pat Buchanan. Writing for the extremist site WorldNetDaily, Buchanan argues that the advent of LGBT equality could mean the so-called “culture wars” might have to become literal with conservatives brazenly violating the law.

Buchanan juxtaposes LGBT rights with the racial civil rights movement, openly admitting that religious leaders will have to preach “principled rejection” and encourage their congregations to disobey laws. He believes “treating black folks decently” is the Christian thing to do, but the same can not be said for the LGBT community:

131 sugikoi  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:25:51am

re: #113 wrenchwench

Police took stuff out of an apartment building. You say it was the Saudi man’s apartment.

You hold Spencer to less of a standard. What standard do you hold yourself to?

The man’s room mate was on tv talking about the search and saying he thought his friend was innocent (which he might be).

The Times is now saying that after the apt investigation they are ruling him out. I hope that is true.

132 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:25:52am

re: #125 CuriousLurker

Dude, don’t even joke like that right now. You don’t want your door getting bashed in at 3am.

Things a little different in Canada. We aren’t as nervous as Americans are right now. Nothing seems to happen here. (relatively speaking)

133 stabby  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:26:29am

re: #130 Kragar

There’s already one nutcase preacher calling kidnapping the children of gays and lesbians “the new underground railroad”

134 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:26:53am

re: #131 sugikoi

The man’s room mate was on tv talking about the search and saying he thought his friend was innocent (which he might be).

The Times is now saying that after the apt investigation they are ruling him out. I hope that is true.

Way to not answer the question.

135 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:27:06am

re: #130 Kragar

He believes “treating black folks decently” is the Christian thing to do…….

Why, that’s mighty white of him. //

GOP rebranding. If at first you don’t succeed, double down on the bullshit.

136 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:27:19am

re: #130 Kragar

Pat Buchanan Calls For ‘A New Era Of Civil Disobedience’ Against LGBT Equality

Why does that man feel so threatened by people having sex?

137 celticdragon  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:27:27am

re: #103 CuriousLurker

I have all kinds of wires coming out of my computers, printers, modem, router, WAP, etc. Luckily, none of them is yellow, so I hope that means I’m in the clear.

I have wires coming out of my computer and I have half a can of FF black powder for my Brown Bess musket.

Damn. I guess that looks bad for me. Then again, I don’t have any pressure cookers. Does a Lodge cast iron Dutch oven count?

138 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:27:46am

re: #128 celticdragon

Yeah, I have noticed that particular zombie version of No True Scotsman. Any RWNJ who kills cops or is caught on the Oakland Bridge with stuff to blow up the Tides Foundation immediately becomes a lefty moonbat. False flag, also, too.

The worst are those who claim that they were lefties trying to make conservatives look bad. Yeah because that’s how we spend our time- not with our friends/families, hobbies, etc but planning atrocities to make the right wing look bad. Shit gets old real fast.

139 Tigger2  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:28:34am

re: #136 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Why does that man feel so threatened by people having sex?

Because he probably hasn’t had any for about 40 years, lol

140 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:28:40am

re: #130 Kragar

Pat Buchanan Calls For ‘A New Era Of Civil Disobedience’ Against LGBT Equality

Yeah how dare LGBT people have equality under the law Pat. It’s just tyrannical. Fucking Franco apologist has a lot of nerve.

141 Kragar  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:29:17am

Sandy Rios Likens Boston Attack to When Nero ‘Burned Rome’ and ‘Blamed Christians’

Sandy Rios on her radio show today was joined by her boss, American Family Association president Tim Wildmon, to discuss the bombing at the Boston marathon, and said the attack “reminds” her of when the Roman emperor Nero “burned Rome” and then “blamed Christians.”

“It’s that psychological process of blaming people that you hate so that they will take the blame for something and it solves two problems for you,” Rios claimed. “So this is nothing new.”

Rios accused the Obama administration of trying to stop security officials from referencing Islam while supposedly identifying conservatives, like gun owners and AFA radio listeners, as “enemies on equal footing with Islamists.”

She said that this alleged policy makes America “less safe” while Wildmon criticized the media for saying that the bombing could have been an “anti-government” attack when he thinks it was almost certainly an act of “Islamic jihadism.”

142 CuriousLurker  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:29:23am

re: #137 celticdragon

I have wires coming out of my computer and I have half a can of FF black powder for my Brown Bess musket.

Damn. I guess that looks bad for me. Then again, I don’t have any pressure cookers. Does a Lodge cast iron Dutch oven count?

Shit—I hope not. I have one of those. (No pressure cooker though.)

143 sugikoi  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:29:30am

re: #134 wrenchwench

Way to not answer the question.

What standard I hold myself to? Kind of a big question.

I would like to think I separate my biases from my conclusions. I am sure I fail here often like any person but I just have the sense that the conversation about who did this is already political and that people are actually hoping that their preferred bad guy did this so they can advance and support their world view.

144 celticdragon  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:29:40am

re: #130 Kragar

He believes “treating black folks decently” is the Christian thing to do, but the same can not be said for the LGBT community:

Pogrom Pat is at it again…or should we call him Krystalnacht Buchanan?

145 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:30:17am

re: #131 sugikoi

The man’s room mate was on tv talking about the search and saying he thought his friend was innocent (which he might be).

The Times is now saying that after the apt investigation they are ruling him out. I hope that is true.

Look, you simply don’t know that the “spool of wire” belonged to the Saudi in question. You’re assuming it, and I’m telling you that there is absolutely no way that ANY investigator would carry evidence in such an important case with their bare hands. This is simply not how it is done.

The fact that you keep insisting it is perfectly normal for police to risk contaminating evidence makes your own agenda very clear.

146 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:30:32am

re: #141 Kragar

Sandy Rios Likens Boston Attack to When Nero ‘Burned Rome’ and ‘Blamed Christians’

Ah there goes the AFA with its amazing persecution complex. Acts like any criticism of conservative Christians is tyranny but is perfectly willing to witchhunt Muslims, Gays, and non-Christians. Fuck that shit.

147 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:31:17am

re: #139 Tigger2

Because he probably hasn’t had any for about 40 years, lol

Far worse than tiny penis syndrome, he suffers from tiny (Freudian) ego syndrome.

148 Kragar  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:31:30am
149 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:31:33am

re: #143 sugikoi

What standard I hold myself to? Kind of a big question.

I would like to think I separate my biases from my conclusions. I am sure I fail here often like any person but I just have the sense that the conversation about who did this is already political and that people are actually hoping that their preferred bad guy did this so they can advance and support their world view.

That doesn’t match up with you registering today to post that the Saudi man is a suspect, despite the fact that law enforcement says he is not.

150 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:31:35am

re: #146 HappyWarrior

Ah there goes the AFA with its amazing persecution complex. Acts like any criticism of conservative Christians is tyranny but is perfectly willing to witchhunt Muslims, Gays, and non-Christians. Fuck that shit.

Groups like AFA and other wingnut orgs revel in feeling persecuted.

151 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:31:55am

re: #137 celticdragon

I have wires coming out of my computer and I have half a can of FF black powder for my Brown Bess musket.

Damn. I guess that looks bad for me. Then again, I don’t have any pressure cookers. Does a Lodge cast iron Dutch oven count?

I have a 6-liter pressure cooker and it has a 30-meatball capacity!

152 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:32:31am

re: #148 Kragar

Bryan. THERE IS NO ONE IN CUSTODY! Are you really so dim-witted or are you simply wilfully ignorant?

153 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:32:59am

re: #151 Vicious Babushka

I have a 6-liter pressure cooker and it has a 30-meatball capacity!

I thought high capacity pots were illegal.

154 Tigger2  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:33:22am

re: #148 Kragar

Or it could mean the authorities know he has nothing to do with it.

155 Decatur Deb  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:33:24am

re: #151 Vicious Babushka

I have a 6-liter pressure cooker and it has a 30-meatball capacity!

We’ll have a one-time buyback of pressure cookers, then it’s fast food for y’all.

156 celticdragon  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:33:32am

re: #136 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Why does that man feel so threatened by people having sex?

Irish Catholics of a bygone age had some reeeeally fucked up notions about sex, virginity and women. I researched that while writing a paper on the Magdalene Laundry penal system for women in Ireland. Ireland was running de-facto religious prisons up until 1996 for women who were raped, too pretty for their own good or who just got frisky with a soldier one night.

157 Kragar  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:33:35am

re: #152 Dr Lizardo

Bryan. THERE IS NO ONE IN CUSTODY! Are you really so dim-witted or are you simply wilfully ignorant?

Of course they’re not going to say they have anyone in custody, because Obama is covering up for the Islamic terrorists who set off the bombs.
///

158 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:34:00am

Anyone want to guess how boring it is to watch an Athlon II system update Win 7?

159 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:35:18am

re: #158 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Anyone want to guess how boring it is to watch an Athlon II system update Win 7?

Something like this?

Image: watching-paint-dry-5.jpg

160 sugikoi  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:35:31am

re: #149 wrenchwench

That doesn’t match up with you registering today to post that the Saudi man is a suspect, despite the fact that law enforcement says he is not.

I registered today because the account I used years ago was suspended for inactivity. (I left on good terms and never had too many beefs with people here)
I cam back today because I remember this place as one where reasonably informed people talked about unfolding events.

I thought from reading comments that it was really important to people here that Spencer is definitely wrong and that this is definitely not the work of a JIhadi.

I also saw a lot of people on Facebook already concluding it was a right wing nut.

Police were saying he was not a suspect even while going to his house and taking things from his apartment (his room mate confirmed this).

Thanks for chatting, and I appreciate being allied to do so even though the host and others disagree with my conclusions.

161 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:35:54am

re: #159 Dr Lizardo

Something like this?

Image: watching-paint-dry-5.jpg

Yup.

162 CuriousLurker  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:36:06am

re: #158 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Anyone want to guess how boring it is to watch an Athlon II system update Win 7?

Watching paint dry would be more interesting?

163 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:36:07am
164 celticdragon  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:36:19am

re: #145 Charles Johnson

Look, you simply don’t know that the “spool of wire” belonged to the Saudi in question. You’re assuming it, and I’m telling you that there is absolutely no way that ANY investigator would carry evidence in such an important case with their bare hands. This is simply not how it is done.

The fact that you keep insisting it is perfectly normal for police to risk contaminating evidence makes your own agenda very clear.

My spouse is finishing up her degree in forensic biology. No, they would not be contaminating evidence that way.

165 sugikoi  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:36:25am

… and btw I am living overseas which is why I wanted to know what people are thinking in the States and why I am seeing this from (I think) the vantage of how quickly these events are politicized.

166 CuriousLurker  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:36:53am

re: #159 Dr Lizardo

Something like this?

Image: watching-paint-dry-5.jpg

re: #162 CuriousLurker

Watching paint dry would be more interesting?

Coke jinx!

167 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:37:24am

re: #162 CuriousLurker

Watching paint dry would be more interesting?

I’m watching it tell me “Installing update 77 of 137…”

I wish I was naked.

168 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:37:27am

DERP

169 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:37:35am

re: #163 Charles Johnson

And the wingnut howling begins in 5….4….3….2….1….

170 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:38:03am

re: #150 Dr Lizardo

Groups like AFA and other wingnut orgs revel in feeling persecuted.

They totally do. It amazes me how they think they can be intolerant as shit to gays, non-Christians, or really anyone who doesn’t see the world like them but the second someone says something critical of them, they act like they’re the Jews in Nazi Germany and Occupied Europe. Was doing my weekly reading of the NYT Book Review and Dan Savage, the gay/atheist columnist was talking about how his son has said some harsh things about Christians around him before. Savage is very well known for being critical of religion but he even pointed out that he had to remind his son of people like MLK and the boy’s own grandmother who was a devout Christians. You never ever see AFA like minded people doing that with homosexuals.

171 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:39:00am

re: #170 HappyWarrior

They totally do. It amazes me how they think they can be intolerant as shit to gays, non-Christians, or really anyone who doesn’t see the world like them but the second someone says something critical of them, they act like they’re the Jews in Nazi Germany and Occupied Europe. Was doing my weekly reading of the NYT Book Review and Dan Savage, the gay/atheist columnist was talking about how his son has said some harsh things about Christians around him before. Savage is very well known for being critical of religion but he even pointed out that he had to remind his son of people like MLK and the boy’s own grandmother who was a devout Christians. You never ever see AFA like minded people doing that with homosexuals.

Being a martyr for the cause is blessed.

172 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:39:05am

re: #163 Charles Johnson

The Pentagon unfortunately saying that will only add to the conspiracy nuts because if the Pentagon says it, it can’t be true.

173 Bulworth  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:39:29am

re: #148 Kragar

Bryan’s right. No one, I mean, NO ONE, is talking about the man in custody who police and everyone else have already said Isn’t A Suspect and Isn’t In Custody. /

174 sugikoi  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:39:35am

re: #169 Dr Lizardo

And the wingnut howling begins in 5….4….3….2….1….

Actually, of that ilk they just care if its a Muslim foreign or domestic.

175 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:39:48am
176 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:40:01am

re: #171 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Being a martyr for the cause is blessed.

Yeah, yeah but there’s a world of difference of some dude calling you an asshole for calling gays pedophiles and being jailed for being a Christian. Of course to the idiots who run the AFA, the two are the same thing.

177 celticdragon  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:40:01am

re: #170 HappyWarrior

The “persecuted Christians against the Satanic world” meme is built into evangelical and charismatic Christianity, and it is utterly impervious to empiricism.

178 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:40:30am

re: #173 Bulworth

Bryan’s right. No one, I mean, NO ONE, is talking about the man in custody who police and everyone else have already said Isn’t A Suspect and Isn’t In Custody. /

That fucking prick is doing his best to get this kid lynched. Fuck him.

179 Bulworth  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:40:39am

re: #163 Charles Johnson

Lies! False Flag!

180 celticdragon  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:40:43am

re: #175 Vicious Babushka

WTF???

181 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:40:48am

re: #174 sugikoi

Actually, of that ilk they just care if its a Muslim foreign or domestic.

I think they’ll start howling once they come to believe that attention may now start to focus on them. Of course, that may take longer than five seconds.

182 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:40:51am

re: #160 sugikoi

I thought from reading comments that it was really important to people here that Spencer is definitely wrong and that this is definitely not the work of a JIhadi.

You’re making generalizations about comments, never a good sign. You obviously know that commenters here are aware that Spencer is frequently wrong. I don’t see where that fact is ‘important to people here’. And I don’t see anyone making any claims about who did the bombing, Jihadi or otherwise.

These things make it look like your agenda is to claim that others have an agenda.

183 Shvaughn  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:41:06am

re: #163 Charles Johnson

RT @RickSanchezTV: CNN BREAKING: pentagon official says there is no indication of al Qaeda or any foreign connection in #Boston bombings.

Oooh, that’s kind of risky of them. Unless they have a good idea who is behind it.

184 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:41:11am

re: #176 HappyWarrior

Yeah, yeah but there’s a world of difference of some dude calling you an asshole for calling gays pedophiles and being jailed for being a Christian. Of course to the idiots who run the AFA, the two are the same thing.

When you have nothing of your own, a crumb is a full meal deal.

185 jaunte  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:41:15am

re: #160 sugikoi

I thought from reading comments that it was really important to people here that Spencer is definitely wrong and that this is definitely not the work of a JIhadi.

I also saw a lot of people on Facebook already concluding it was a right wing nut.

Roger Simon’s original quote:

“Excuse me for playing my screenwriter card, but it seems to me the subtext here is that Bergen wants the perpetrators to be “right-wing extremists.”

186 sugikoi  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:41:47am

re: #182 wrenchwench

You’re making generalizations about comments, never a good sign. You obviously know that commenters here are aware that Spencer is frequently wrong. I don’t see where that fact is ‘important to people here’. And I don’t see anyone making any claims about who did the bombing, Jihadi or otherwise.

These things make it look like your agenda is to claim that others have an agenda.

Well I apologize for looking like I have an agenda, or at least that one.

187 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:42:38am

Do women really give pity fucks?

188 makeitstop  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:43:51am

re: #163 Charles Johnson

The field suddenly narrows.

189 Single-handed sailor  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:44:01am

re: #187 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Do women really give pity fucks?

Not for updating Windows 7 on slow computers.

190 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:44:43am

re: #189 Single-handed sailor

Not for updating Windows 7 on slow computers.

Shit.

191 Sionainn  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:44:46am

re: #64 Charles Johnson

How do you know that spool of wire didn’t belong to the investigators? If it was evidence of something, they wouldn’t be carelessly carrying it with their bare hands.

This is really stupid.

That’s what I was thinking. I notice that there are no photos of the investigators going into the apartment. What they were carrying out could have been carried in by them.

192 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:45:29am

re: #188 makeitstop

Indeed it does. If not foreign-connected, then it’s domestic.

193 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:45:57am

re: #191 Sionainn

That’s what I was thinking. I notice that there are no photos of the investigators going into the apartment. What they were carrying out could have been carried in by them.

If that was evidence they would be wearing latex gloves.

194 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:46:44am

re: #191 Sionainn

That’s what I was thinking. I notice that there are no photos of the investigators going into the apartment. What they were carrying out could have been carried in by them.

If that is cat 6 cable (which it does look like), it was almost certainly used by the investigators to connect their own equipment. There’s no way this is “evidence.” Investigators do not handle evidence like that with their bare hands.

195 CuriousLurker  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:46:47am

re: #160 sugikoi

I thought from reading comments that it was really important to people here that Spencer is definitely wrong and that this is definitely not the work of a JIhadi.

Most people here have said it could be anyone. What’s important to the group—if I may be so presumptuous as to speak for everyone—is that an innocent person (Muslim/Saudi or otherwise) not be presumed guilty.

The rest of what you’ve said is just smoke and jabs at Charles.

196 geoffm33  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:47:25am

re: #148 Kragar

197 celticdragon  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:48:00am

re: #188 makeitstop

The field suddenly narrows.

It was mentioned numerous times last night that there was no chatter at all in the foreign Jihadi sites in the days leading up to the attack. That just about rules out foreign involvement right there, although you still have to make absolutely sure. It should be noted that major foreign attacks are always preceded by excited chatter.

198 celticdragon  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:49:13am

re: #193 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

If that was evidence they would be wearing latex gloves.

And it would be tagged for identification and bagged to prevent cross contamination.

199 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:50:18am

re: #198 celticdragon

And it would be tagged for identification and bagged to prevent cross contamination.

Not to mention preserving the chain of custody. Any investigator who handled evidence like that would have just destroyed his own case.

200 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:53:16am

re: #196 geoffm33

Yeah no shit. The bombing happened just over a day ago. That the police don’t have a profile means it’s a Muslim? Well, Mr. Fischer just showed he’s as about intelligent about criminal investigation as he is about homosexuality, Islam, the Congressional Medal of Honor, and the environment. He really should give himself a gag order. The world’s IQ drops a bunch when he tweets.

201 celticdragon  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:54:00am

re: #199 Charles Johnson

Not to mention preserving the chain of custody. Any investigator who handled evidence like that would have just destroyed his own case.

Exactly. My spouse had to do a simulated forensic dig of a shallow grave last winter while being being examined by North Carolina Bureau of Investigation agents. One of her classmates screwed up big time by handling evidence before it had been photographed in place in the grave. Mistakes like that can kill a case.

202 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:54:58am

re: #186 sugikoi

Well I apologize for looking like I have an agenda, or at least that one.

It can be avoided by being more specific about what you’re responding to. Stuff like

I thought from reading comments that it was really important to people here …

never leads anywhere good. And your first comment was so self-contradictory it was kind of funny.

203 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:56:47am

Where’s Richard Jewell?

(Nevermind! According to the Wikipedia, he died 6 years ago en.wikipedia.org )

204 CuriousLurker  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:57:47am

re: #195 CuriousLurker

Most people here have said it could be anyone. What’s important to the group—if I may be so presumptuous as to speak for everyone—is that an innocent person (Muslim/Saudi or otherwise) not be presumed guilty.

The rest of what you’ve said is just smoke and jabs at Charles.

I would add that this wasn’t simply a case of people saying, “It could’ve been sovereign citizens, jihadis, etc.” This (Saudi) guy’s name & photo as well as that of one of his roommates is being plastered all over the internet as if he’s guilty. Shit like that is how innocent people end up hurt or dead.

205 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:58:51am

Man just read about the little boy, Martin Richard killed yesterday. Hard not tear up a little there. I have no children of my own or nieces/nephews but I have plenty of cousins with small kids. I think of them whenever I hear about a little kid being killed in one of these things and it just teared me up. Not the crying type but damn it, why are people such assholes?

206 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:59:11am

re: #204 CuriousLurker

I would add that this wasn’t simply a case of people saying, “It could’ve been sovereign citizen’s, etc.” This (Saudi) guy’s name & photo as well as that of one of his roommates is being plastered all over the internet as if he’s guilty. Shit like that is how innocent people end up hurt or dead.

Richard Jewell’s life was ruined and this was long before Facebook, Twitter, and blogging!

207 CuriousLurker  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:00:25pm

re: #206 Vicious Babushka

Richard Jewell’s life was ruined and this was long before Facebook, Twitter, and blogging!

Exactly.

208 William of Orange  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:00:31pm

I hope anyone of these bastards in this video get to feel the full penalty of law!!

While personnel of this merchandise stand ran away in panic, and security was trying to manage a disaster, these looters ran away with a fortune of clothing. Well assholes! You’re on candid camera and I hope you’re proud of yourself!!

209 Bulworth  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:00:46pm

The Twitters (@BostonGlobe) is telling me that ‘investigators have found the circuit board they believe was used to trigger the bombs.’

210 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:01:58pm
211 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:03:15pm

re: #207 CuriousLurker

Exactly.

It makes me wonder what would have happened to him if we had the access to IT that we do now back then. Really, this shit is going to get someone hurt or heaven forbid killed. People need to restrain themselves.

212 blueraven  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:03:37pm

re: #208 William of Orange

I hope anyone of these bastards in this video get to feel the full penalty of law!!

While personnel of this merchandise stand ran away in panic, and security was trying to manage a disaster, these looters ran away with a fortune of clothing. Well assholes! You’re on candid camera and I hope you’re proud of yourself!!

[Embedded content]

This cant be true…those people are white!

//

213 William of Orange  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:04:43pm

re: #212 blueraven

This cant be true…those people are white!

//

It’s happening…
ebay.com

214 Sionainn  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:05:15pm

re: #208 William of Orange

I hope anyone of these bastards in this video get to feel the full penalty of law!!

While personnel of this merchandise stand ran away in panic, and security was trying to manage a disaster, these looters ran away with a fortune of clothing. Well assholes! You’re on candid camera and I hope you’re proud of yourself!!

[Embedded content]

How do you know these are looters? Seems rather odd that people are taking one jacket each.

215 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:05:27pm

This could be a big break.

216 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:06:29pm

106 of 137.

Are we there yet?

217 Shvaughn  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:06:56pm

So, like, here’s an image that shows what else they took from the Saudi guy’s apartment! Some weird contraption thingy.

Image: 74210736.jpg

OBVIOUSLY a bomb! He’s guilty! Who would have that crazy shit in their apartment?! Arrest him! Execute h—

… oh … wait, hold on a sec.

Here’s another picture…

Image: 21987802_BG2.jpg

And another, showing the investigator carrying that item into the apartment…

Image: apt-searched-pic.jpg

Wow, forensic investigation teams apparently use all kinds of advanced high equipment — with wires, even!

WHO KNEW?!

218 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:08:40pm

The 10,000,000th comment will be impossible to miss. ;-)

219 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:09:01pm
220 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:09:14pm

re: #218 Charles Johnson

The 10,000,000th comment will be impossible to miss. ;-)

Sparklies happen?

221 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:10:00pm

re: #217 Shvaughn

So, like, here’s an image that shows what else they took from the Saudi guy’s apartment! Some weird contraption thingy.

Image: 74210736.jpg

OBVIOUSLY a bomb! He’s guilty! Who would have that crazy shit in their apartment?! Arrest him! Execute h—

… oh … wait, hold on a sec.

Here’s another picture…

Image: 21987802_BG2.jpg

And another, showing the investigator carrying that item into the apartment…

Image: apt-searched-pic.jpg

Wow, forensic investigation teams apparently use all kinds of advanced high equipment — with wires, even!

WHO KNEW?!

Obviously the Boston PD are in on the false flag, Alex Jones.// Seriously, what I fucking hate about cases like this is that if the perp is of a certain background, the nutjobs basically say WE NEED TO START PROFILING MUSLIMS(or whatever minority group_. Of course, when the Obama DHS and really the Bush DHS to be totally truthful pointed out that white supremacist groups would try to recruit veterans, the right went ballistic and accused the Obama administration of hating veterans. Nevermind the fact that it was the Bush administration and goddamn the fact that it’s true that white supremacist groups attempt to recruit veterans.

222 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:11:09pm

My left foot is bigger than my right.

223 Tigger2  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:12:02pm

re: #208 William of Orange

I hope anyone of these bastards in this video get to feel the full penalty of law!!

While personnel of this merchandise stand ran away in panic, and security was trying to manage a disaster, these looters ran away with a fortune of clothing. Well assholes! You’re on candid camera and I hope you’re proud of yourself!!

[Embedded content]

Wow look at all those disgusting minority people looting.///

224 Lidane  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:12:54pm
225 efuseakay  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:13:06pm

Random thought… With all these RWNJ stocking up on guns and ammo, has it even dawned on them that people are stocking up to defend themselves against them?

226 William of Orange  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:13:40pm

re: #218 Charles Johnson

The 10,000,000th comment will be impossible to miss. ;-)

?

227 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:14:01pm

DANA LOESCH FAIL

228 William of Orange  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:15:28pm

re: #224 Lidane

And then the ad on the right…..

229 efuseakay  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:16:25pm

re: #208 William of Orange

I hope anyone of these bastards in this video get to feel the full penalty of law!!

While personnel of this merchandise stand ran away in panic, and security was trying to manage a disaster, these looters ran away with a fortune of clothing. Well assholes! You’re on candid camera and I hope you’re proud of yourself!!

[Embedded content]

Or they knew who the stuff belonged to and were getting it out if the danger zone.

230 William of Orange  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:17:00pm

re: #227 Vicious Babushka

DANA LOESCH FAIL

Do you really think she’s listening? People like that have some truth-blocking device embedded in their brain.

231 Lidane  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:17:13pm
232 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:17:46pm

JESUS CHRIST SHE IS SO FREAKING DUMB

233 geoffm33  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:18:03pm

re: #205 HappyWarrior

Man just read about the little boy, Martin Richard killed yesterday. Hard not tear up a little there. I have no children of my own or nieces/nephews but I have plenty of cousins with small kids. I think of them whenever I hear about a little kid being killed in one of these things and it just teared me up. Not the crying type but damn it, why are people such assholes?

Yep, boy lived next town over from me. I plan to attend any services that the Westboro assholes try to picket.

234 geoffm33  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:19:35pm

re: #217 Shvaughn

So, like, here’s an image that shows what else they took from the Saudi guy’s apartment! Some weird contraption thingy.

Image: 74210736.jpg

OBVIOUSLY a bomb! He’s guilty! Who would have that crazy shit in their apartment?! Arrest him! Execute h—

… oh … wait, hold on a sec.

Here’s another picture…

Image: 21987802_BG2.jpg

And another, showing the investigator carrying that item into the apartment…

Image: apt-searched-pic.jpg

Wow, forensic investigation teams apparently use all kinds of advanced high equipment — with wires, even!

WHO KNEW?!

Maybe he was a Ghostbuster?

235 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:19:45pm

Wingnuts are ganging up on me now, they have total faith in the DailyCaller.

236 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:19:54pm

re: #224 Lidane


Well, there are several other people wearing backpacks, some are wearing hoodies.
Guess I’m just not conspiratorial enough to see what the pictures are trying to portray.

237 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:20:19pm

re: #233 geoffm33

Yep, boy lived next town over from me. I plan to attend any services that the Westboro assholes try to picket.

Crazy. But yeah reading about young Martin just reminded me of my cousins’ children. Seems like he was a sweet kid and wise beyond his years. Fucking Westboro ghouls though. Already heard that they’re planning on picketing the funerals. That poor family man.

238 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:22:05pm

re: #235 Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts are ganging up on me now, they have total faith in the DailyCaller.

Piss on them.

239 Shvaughn  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:22:09pm

This has all you need to know about the conspiracy:

bostonmarathonconspiracy.com

240 Lidane  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:23:05pm
241 CuriousLurker  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:23:42pm

Okay, gotta get back to work. BBL

242 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:23:45pm

re: #148 Kragar

I really no longer care what Bryan Fischer has to say about anything at all

243 geoffm33  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:24:26pm
244 Lidane  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:24:29pm

Somewhere out there, heads are exploding:

245 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:24:36pm

re: #240 Lidane

If I could Alex Jones mad at me, I’d be happy too. That guy’s a pathetic dickhead who uses tragedies like this and others to justify his paranoia. He’s a fucking ghoul.

246 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:26:16pm

re: #132 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Things a little different in Canada. We aren’t as nervous as Americans are right now. Nothing seems to happen here. (relatively speaking)

Yeah. I was in high school the last time any political terrorism occurred in Canada.

247 klys  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:26:51pm

re: #99 sugikoi

I looked at your site because I remember years ago it was good for live unfolding commentary and yes, it seems to me that it is important for you that Robert Spencer is wrong.

I know for a fact that it is important for Spencer that a Muslim did this but I hold him to less of a standard.

The conclusion I lept to is that when police are taking bags out of an apartment and calling someone a witness they are calculating legally and strategically. That is to say there are good reasons (besides begin a bigot who wants this to be a Muslim) for thinking that he is in fact a suspect.

I hope the Saudi kid is cleared. I don;t care which variety of freak did this.

So, I’m kind of curious what the authorities would need to say for you to consider the kid cleared. Because apparently saying he is not a suspect (even after searching his apartment with his cooperation) and calling him a witness (which, umm, he did witness it if he was injured in the blast) is insufficient.

248 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:27:09pm

re: #136 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Why does that man feel so threatened by people having sex?

He’s not threatened. He’s jealous. I doubt the man can even buy a date.

249 Bulworth  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:27:30pm

re: #235 Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts are ganging up on me now, they have total faith in the DailyCaller.

The Daily Caller has never failed. It has only been failed. //

250 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:27:52pm

re: #248 Romantic Heretic

He’s not threatened. He’s jealous. I doubt the man can even buy a date.

Somebody needs to get that man laid.

251 AlexRogan  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:28:18pm

re: #26 Lidane

Try applying it to yourself, too.

The authorities have outright said he’s not a suspect. He’s a witness.

But, but…SCARY BROWN MAN!!!11ty

/

252 leftynyc  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:28:39pm

re: #244 Lidane

Somewhere out there, heads are exploding:

My mouth is literally hanging open. Good job Bombers!!! (wow, just realized what an unfortunate nickname that is today)

253 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:28:47pm

re: #232 Vicious Babushka

JESUS CHRIST SHE IS SO FREAKING DUMB

We know that. please spare us her twitters…

254 Shvaughn  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:29:32pm

re: #243 geoffm33

Boston Marathon Bombings: What Happened And What Didn’t

That article is inaccurate, since it doesn’t include the information that the Saudi student was cleared.

255 Skip Intro  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:30:15pm

re: #232 Vicious Babushka

JESUS CHRIST SHE IS SO FREAKING DUMB

And she homeschools. Think about that.

256 geoffm33  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:30:23pm

re: #254 Shvaughn

That article is inaccurate, since it doesn’t include the information that the Saudi student was cleared.

Good catch, I’ll tweet them that.

257 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:33:47pm

re: #254 Shvaughn

That article is inaccurate, since it doesn’t include the information that the Saudi student was cleared.

The so-called “government” says he was “cleared”, but TRUE PATRIOTS (TM) know better…

258 geoffm33  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:34:50pm

re: #254 Shvaughn

That article is inaccurate, since it doesn’t include the information that the Saudi student was cleared.

Do you have a link I can tweet them with? I’m coming up dry, best I’ve found is “expects to be cleared this afternoon”.

259 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:40:21pm

re: #257 Sol Berdinowitz

The so-called “government” says he was “cleared”, but TRUE PATRIOTS (TM) know better…

You jest, but that’s the view going around the RW fever swamps.

260 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:41:51pm

re: #259 Dr Lizardo

You jest, but that’s the view going around the RW fever swamps.

Yes, of course, these people have a monopoly on the truth. And they don’t retreat, they reload…

/

261 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:42:17pm

re: #259 Dr Lizardo

You jest, but that’s the view going around the RW fever swamps.

And that’s the damndest thing. There are people in the nutosphere who believe Obama and the government would actually let a Muslim perp go because they don’t want to make Muslims look bad. Yeah explains why Obama ordered the Seals to give Osama Bin Laden a nice pat on the head errr shot in the back of the head.

262 Lidane  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:42:59pm
263 Shvaughn  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:44:33pm

re: #258 geoffm33

Do you have a link I can tweet them with? I’m coming up dry, best I’ve found is “expects to be cleared this afternoon”.

bostonglobe.com

264 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:45:53pm

re: #262 Lidane

Aww Marco’s just realizing that his base is in fact batshit insane.

265 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:46:13pm

re: #261 HappyWarrior

And that’s the damndest thing. There are people in the nutosphere who believe Obama and the government would actually let a Muslim perp go because they don’t want to make Muslims look bad. Yeah explains why Obama ordered the Seals to give Osama Bin Laden a nice pat on the head errr shot in the back of the head.

The hardcore right, especially those with anti-Muslim inclinations, are no different than those who believed in the various tropes of anti-Semitism one hundred years ago. No logic can penetrate their worldview. There is no ‘nuance’ for them; no shades of gray.

They adhere to a strictly Manichean view of life and the world at large, absolute good and absolute evil. There is nothing else for them; they simply haven’t the intellectual capacity to handle anything else.

266 Shvaughn  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:47:45pm

re: #258 geoffm33

Do you have a link I can tweet them with? I’m coming up dry, best I’ve found is “expects to be cleared this afternoon”.

cbsnews.com

267 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:47:58pm

re: #265 Dr Lizardo

The hardcore right, especially those with anti-Muslim inclinations, are no different than those who believed in the various tropes of anti-Semitism one hundred years ago. No logic can penetrate their worldview. There is no ‘nuance’ for them; no shades of gray.

They adhere to a strictly Manichean view of life and the world at large, absolute good and absolute evil. There is nothing else for them; they simply haven’t the intellectual capacity to handle anything else.

It’s actually downright eerie how the Anti-Semitic CTs of a 100 years ago resemble the Anti-Muslim ones of today. I don’t think it’s a consequence since the people who echo them are the ideological descendants of the people who insisted the Protocols of Elders of Zion were real. Makes me wonder if we’ll ever learn.

268 Lidane  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:48:30pm

re: #264 HappyWarrior

Aww Marco’s just realizing that his base is in fact batshit insane.

269 Skip Intro  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:48:34pm

re: #262 Lidane

Rubio: Don’t Tie Immigration Reform To Boston Bombing

Hey Marco, better tell that to your idiot base.

Laura Ingraham Suggests Boston Bombings Should Raise Concerns About Immigration Reform

mediaite.com

270 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:49:38pm

re: #268 Lidane

My surprise is nil at this point. And if the perp ends up being American born and raised, they’ll find someway to blame Obama and the left for it.

271 Kragar  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:49:51pm

Barton: Instead of Passing Obamacare, Congress Should Have Called on People ‘to be More Religious’

… Barton commented that the problem in America today is that while the vast majority of people consider themselves to be Christians, not enough are reading the Bible regularly and applying it to their daily lives.

After comparing the Bible to an owner’s manual for a car, Barton said that “the more religious you are, the better your health is” and suggested that instead of passing health care reform legislation, Congress should have passed legislation “calling on people to be more religious”

272 Kragar  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:50:52pm

re: #268 Lidane

I assume they mean RWNJ would bomb anyone advocating Immigration reform.
/

273 AlexRogan  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:50:55pm

re: #55 sugikoi

Wait, so a picture in the NY Post or Daily Mail is not a picture?

It’s not necessarily the pictures, it’s the “commentary”.

274 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:50:57pm

re: #269 Skip Intro

Hey Marco, better tell that to your idiot base.

mediaite.com

Yeah no kidding. This is why I think he’s ultimately doomed. Rick Perry was plenty cf conservative but remember how he was done in. It wasn’t just that he was an idiot, it’s that Romney moved far to this right on immigration and that shit works in the Republican primary. Fortunately for America, it works less in a general election.

275 geoffm33  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:51:02pm

re: #266 Shvaughn

cbsnews.com

Thanks, I sent them those two links.

276 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:51:52pm

Two White House Petitions Related To The Boston Marathon Bombing Have Been Created

A petition to the ban the crazy people at the Westboro Baptist Church from picketing the funerals of the victims of the Boston Marathon has already 7,640 signatures. The WBC has announced they intend to picket the funerals whenever and wherever they happen.

Another petition calls for the the Presidential Citizens Medal to be awarded to Carlos Arredondo for “exemplary deeds at the Boston Marathon.”

277 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:51:55pm

re: #267 HappyWarrior

It’s actually downright eerie how the Anti-Semitic CTs of a 100 years ago resemble the Anti-Muslim ones of today. I don’t think it’s a consequence since the people who echo them are the ideological descendants of the people who insisted the Protocols of Elders of Zion were real. Makes me wonder if we’ll ever learn.

There’s a group of people in any society that needs someone to hate. Without hate, their lives are meaningless, shallow and empty. Hate defines them. Hate makes them feel productive. Hate fills the void in their hearts. In any society, in any era of history, in any culture you will find such people. It has nothing to do with religion, or politics, or race or ethnicity or anything else.

it’s just the voracious need to hate someone else in order to make them feel better about themselves.

278 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:52:10pm

re: #271 Kragar

Barton: Instead of Passing Obamacare, Congress Should Have Called on People ‘to be More Religious’

Yeah because telling people how to live their lives should be the priority of government not getting more people insured. Fuck this clerical fascist because that’s what he is. He wants his theological ideas to be the basis of society. He’s a fascist who would have felt at home with many of the rightist movements in itnerwar Europe.

279 Kragar  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:53:45pm

Westboro to picket Boston funerals, blames ‘fag marriage’ for bombings

I think intolerant assholes are to blame, but thats just me.

280 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:53:56pm

re: #277 Dr Lizardo

There’s a group of people in any society that needs someone to hate. Without hate, their lives are meaningless, shallow and empty. Hate defines them. Hate makes them feel productive. Hate fills the void in their hearts. In any society, in any era of history, in any culture you will such people. It has nothing to do with religion, or politics, or race or ethnicity or anything else.

it’s just the voracious need to hate someone else in order to make them feel better about themselves.

Absolutely. Some people are just hateful people and it’s what they thrive on for their existence. It would be sad honestly save for the fact that these people want their hatred fo be state policy.

281 Bulworth  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:54:24pm

re: #271 Kragar

Yeah, why didn’t we think of this? Cancer, heart disease, and all the rest will go away. //

282 Lidane  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:55:18pm
283 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:56:06pm

re: #280 HappyWarrior

Absolutely. Some people are just hateful people and it’s what they thrive on for their existence. It would be sad honestly save for the fact that these people want their hatred fo be state policy.

History offers instructive lessons on what happens when such small and petty people end up in charge. And none of those lessons have positive outcomes.

284 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:57:15pm

re: #283 Dr Lizardo

History offers instructive lessons on what happens when such small and petty people end up in charge. And none of those lessons have positive outcomes.

Absolutely. Happens way too much.

285 Skip Intro  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:58:28pm

re: #274 HappyWarrior

Yeah no kidding. This is why I think he’s ultimately doomed. Rick Perry was plenty cf conservative but remember how he was done in. It wasn’t just that he was an idiot, it’s that Romney moved far to this right on immigration and that shit works in the Republican primary. Fortunately for America, it works less in a general election.

He’s doomed because half of the dickheads who would vote for him think he’s an illegal, and not Konstitoonality eligible to be president.

286 Lidane  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:58:34pm
288 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 12:58:53pm

re: #278 HappyWarrior

Yeah because telling people how to live their lives should be the priority of government not getting more people insured. Fuck this clerical fascist because that’s what he is. He wants his theological ideas to be the basis of society. He’s a fascist who would have felt at home with many of the rightist movements in itnerwar Europe.

Barton would’ve fit in perfectly with the Christian Social Party of Austria under Engelbert Dollfuss. He probably would’ve thought he’d died and gone to heaven.

289 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 1:01:44pm

re: #287 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Alex Jones “correspondent” asked Gov. if the attack was a false flag so that “TSA agents cen put their hands down our pants”

I’m waiting for an official who responds to the Jonsians with “No, are you fucking out of your mind,? do you morons always have to pull this ridiculous shit whenever something like this happens”“

290 gwangung  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 1:07:41pm

re: #267 HappyWarrior

It’s actually downright eerie how the Anti-Semitic CTs of a 100 years ago resemble the Anti-Muslim ones of today. I don’t think it’s a consequence since the people who echo them are the ideological descendants of the people who insisted the Protocols of Elders of Zion were real. Makes me wonder if we’ll ever learn.

Not to me. It’s the same crap Japanese Americans went through in WWII and Chinese Americans at the height of the Red Scare.

291 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 1:47:01pm

re: #287 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Alex Jones “correspondent” asked Gov. if the attack was a false flag so that “TSA agents cen put their hands down our pants”

No, I think that was the shoe bomber.

292 delosgatos  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 2:12:36pm

re: #11 Vicious Babushka

<facepalm>Morans.</facepalm>

“Dawn Hochsprung” was the Sandy Hook principal killed in the massacre.

Donna Page” was the previous principal, who retired in 2010 and came out of retirement after the massacre to act as interim principal.

So I’m thinking what happened is that some news report mentioned Donna Page was at the Marathon (as were a number of Sandy Hook folks) but ran a stock image of Dawn Hochsprung (in fact, the very same image in the older news image the tweeting twit posted) and the moran couldn’t figure out the difference.

Can we get the Israelis to bomb the centrifuges the RWNJs are using to concentrate weapons-grade stupidity?

293 BongCrodny  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 2:42:14pm

re: #292 delosgatos

<facepalm>Morans.</facepalm>

“Dawn Hochsprung” was the Sandy Hook principal killed in the massacre.

Donna Page” was the previous principal, who retired in 2010 and came out of retirement after the massacre to act as interim principal.

So I’m thinking what happened is that some news report mentioned Donna Page was at the Marathon (as were a number of Sandy Hook folks) but ran a stock image of Dawn Hochsprung (in fact, the very same image in the older news image the tweeting twit posted) and the moran couldn’t figure out the difference.

Can we get the Israelis to bomb the centrifuges the RWNJs are using to concentrate weapons-grade stupidity?

Ooh, a new hatchling!

Welcome, welcome! Allow me to present you with your first gold-plated upding.

294 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 2:48:16pm

re: #222 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

My left foot is bigger than my right.

We should get together. My right is bigger than my left. Together we might have 2 pairs of matching feet.

For a while when I was a kid, my parents actually had to buy two pairs of shoes at a time to get the proper size for each foot.

295 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 2:50:51pm

re: #271 Kragar

Barton: Instead of Passing Obamacare, Congress Should Have Called on People ‘to be More Religious’

After comparing the Bible to an owner’s manual for a car, Barton said that “the more religious you are, the better your health is” and suggested that instead of passing health care reform legislation, Congress should have passed legislation “calling on people to be more religious”

Funny, the owner’s manual for my car doesn’t say anything about pelting it with stones when it misbehaves.

296 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Apr 16, 2013 2:52:08pm

re: #112 ReamWorks SKG

I just checked Al*x J*n*s. They’re blaming the Jews!

They use wires for odd things all the time.
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