Sen. Lindsey Graham Says We Should Deny Bombing Suspect’s Constitutional Rights

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It’s amazing how conservatives’ loud reverence for the US Constitution goes right out the window when they get a hankering to torture somebody. From South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham today on Twitter:

This guy is no random Twitter troll — he’s an elected official, seriously suggesting that a US citizen should be stripped of his constitutional rights. Unreal.

For all that right wing Constitutionism, they seem to have very little faith in it when the rubber hits the road.

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238 comments
1 erik_t  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:07:06pm

Jesus, that one’s even worse than the Miranda one.

HE’S A UNITED STATES FUCKING CITIZEN. HE’S A DOMESTIC CRIMINAL.

2 Kragar  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:07:19pm

There is literally not one single issue the GOP is right about, ever.

3 HappyWarrior  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:08:04pm

Yeah constitutional rights should go out the window just because this happened. Seriously Lindsay. You’re a trained lawyer, act like one. We don’t have to agree on policy but suggesting that we deny someone their constitutional rights is asinine. I said it downstairs but the most American thing we can do is prosecute Tsaranaev to the fullest extent of the law. No torture, no execution without trial but an actual trial. This is America. These are the principles we were founded upon. Funny as you say Charles that the right’s love of Constitution is out the window as soon as they have torture fantasies.

4 klys  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:08:42pm

This is why the GOP knows all about slippery slopes and fights against them so hard - they just can’t resist the temptation when it’s put in front of them.

5 Randall Gross  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:08:45pm

Some one needs to see if McCain agrees.

6 A Mom Anon  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:08:46pm

I bet he has no idea the remaining fugitive is a citizen.

7 erik_t  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:09:42pm

re: #6 A Mom Anon

I bet he has no idea the remaining fugitive is a citizen.

Which, of course, would still be no excuse. We have a fucking Constitution. It applies to everyone.

8 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:09:45pm

re: #5 Randall Gross

Some one needs to see if McCain agrees.

As I recall, McCain loves the Chechens.

9 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:09:51pm
10 brennant  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:11:26pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

Oh my.

11 Kragar  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:12:33pm

My last post for a while. Stay safe everyone.

Where the hell did Kragar go?

12 HappyWarrior  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:12:49pm

re: #8 Backwoods_Sleuth

As I recall, McCain loves the Chechens.

Not sure but I know he was supportive of the Georgians in their conflict over South Ossetia back in ‘08. Perhaps you’re confusing that. Wouldn’t shock me if he is Pro-Chechen since McCain’s anti-Russian in his foreign policy.

13 EPR-radar  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:13:32pm

re: #6 A Mom Anon

I bet he has no idea the remaining fugitive is a citizen.

Once someone is in custody of US authorities, there is either rule of law (due process etc.) or there is not (torture, indefinite detention, etc.).

The citizenship of the detainee is pretty much irrelevant to this distinction.

14 erik_t  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:13:34pm

re: #12 HappyWarrior

McCain: “anti-Russian” is his foreign policy.

FTFY

15 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:13:48pm

re: #11 Kragar

My last post for a while. Stay safe everyone.

Where the hell did Kragar go?

Take care, man.

16 Dr. Matt  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:14:10pm

re: #11 Kragar

My last post for a while. Stay safe everyone.

Where the hell did Kragar go?

Godspeed.

17 Bulworth  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:14:32pm

re: #3 HappyWarrior

But PBO is a tyrant and ripping up the Constitution and hates are Libertays. //

18 HappyWarrior  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:15:13pm

re: #11 Kragar

My last post for a while. Stay safe everyone.

Where the hell did Kragar go?

Take care man. Sorry about your Dad. I think I speak for many here in saying that I know you’ll be missed by the community.

19 makeitstop  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:15:25pm

re: #11 Kragar

My last post for a while. Stay safe everyone.

Where the hell did Kragar go?

Return when ready, we’ll be here.

20 HappyWarrior  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:15:39pm

re: #14 erik_t

FTFY

I wonder if that policy extends to his vodka shopping.

21 Bulworth  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:15:54pm

re: #11 Kragar

Be well, and we’ll see you when you get back.

22 HappyWarrior  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:16:09pm

re: #13 EPR-radar

Once someone is in custody of US authorities, there is either rule of law (due process etc.) or there is not (torture, indefinite detentions, etc.).

The citizenship of the detainee is pretty much irrelevant to this distinction.

Something that Graham would be aware of. He’s a lawyer.

23 SpaceJesus  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:16:19pm

Why yes Sen. Graham, let’s leave open the possibility of giving him the ability to walk away from the charges because of intentional procedural misconduct

24 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:16:46pm

We are going to be back to the “should terrorists be tried as war criminals or civilian criminals” argument. Since this guy was a naturalized citizen, it’s going to be a zoo of DERP.

I’m so tired of it all.

“Do MIranda Rights apply” I can hear the Sean Hannity Intro in 5 . 4 . 3 . 2

25 SpaceJesus  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:16:54pm

Kid is a citizen since 2012 yes?

26 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:17:16pm

re: #12 HappyWarrior

Not sure but I know he was supportive of the Georgians in their conflict over South Ossetia back in ‘08. Perhaps you’re confusing that. Wouldn’t shock me if he is Pro-Chechen since McCain’s anti-Russian in his foreign policy.

yes, Georgians as well, but he accused Putin of a bloody war against Chechyna and threatened all sorts of stuff.

27 Dr. Matt  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:17:26pm

re: #25 SpaceJesus

Kid is a citizen since 2012 yes?

Sept 11, 2012.

True story.

28 HappyWarrior  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:18:32pm

re: #26 Backwoods_Sleuth

yes, Georgians as well, but he accused Putin of a bloody war against Chechyna and threatened all sorts of stuff.

Ah okay. Didn’t know

29 erik_t  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:18:32pm

re: #24 FemNaziBitch

We are going to be back to the “should terrorists be tried as war criminals or civilian criminals” argument. Since this guy was a naturalized citizen, it’s going to be a zoo of DERP.

One reason to hope he’s caught alive. A bunch of dipshits need to be reminded of how the law works, preferably by clue-by-four.

30 HappyWarrior  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:18:57pm

re: #27 Dr. Matt

Sept 11, 2012.

True story.

Great now we’ll see a Benghazi conspiracy from Jones linking that and this.

31 EPR-radar  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:19:21pm

re: #23 SpaceJesus

Why yes Sen. Graham, let’s leave open the possibility of giving him the ability to walk away from the charges because of intentional procedural misconduct

I’m sure the scenario Sen Graham has in his tiny mind involves a relocation to Gitmo, where nuisances like letting people go need not apply.

32 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:21:09pm

re: #1 erik_t

Jesus, that one’s even worse than the Miranda one.

HE’S A UNITED STATES FUCKING CITIZEN. HE’S A DOMESTIC CRIMINAL.

Once you accept the idea that 9/11 was war, not crime, everything gets a little ‘fuzzy’.

33 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:21:14pm

re: #28 HappyWarrior

Anyway, it will be interesting to see McCain’s response.

34 SpaceJesus  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:22:07pm

Did we send the Aurora shooter to Gitmo? Go home Senator, you’re drunk

35 HappyWarrior  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:22:43pm

re: #33 Backwoods_Sleuth

Anyway, it will be interesting to see McCain’s response.

It will be. McCain’s unpredictable. He sometimes shows he’s got some decency left- voted yes on that background check that failed the other day. Othertimes, he acts like a real ass. I am glad he’s not president or ever going to be. Too unpredictable. Forget his age, this would be a problem if he were 10-20 years younger too.

36 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:23:20pm

re: #11 Kragar

take care of yourself!

37 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:23:53pm

Well, okay, Senator Lindsey. If you want to waive your’s as well.

What’s that? It hurts when it’s your prick in the vice?

38 Olsonist  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:23:58pm

re: #34 SpaceJesus

Did we send the Aurora shooter to Gitmo? Go home Senator, you’re drunk

Incorrect. He’s getting primaried by the Tea Party.
Yes, that’s a small difference but it is different.

39 Bulworth  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:25:06pm

re: #34 SpaceJesus

But,but,but,but,but LONE WOLF!!

/

40 HoosierHoops  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:26:25pm

re: #11 Kragar

My last post for a while. Stay safe everyone.

Where the hell did Kragar go?

Kind regards..And best wishes

41 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:27:48pm

Lindsey Graham reminds me of that DOG.

The senator:
Image: 220px-Lindsey_Graham,_Official_Portrait_2006.jpg

The dog:
Image: tumblr_lzjrsoo61q1r50h4io1_400.png

42 danarchy  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:27:59pm

re: #27 Dr. Matt

Sept 11, 2012.

True story.

Once he is caught and given due process I sincerely hope they can find grounds to denaturalize him too on top of the death penalty/life in prison.

43 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:28:00pm
44 HappyWarrior  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:28:37pm

re: #38 Olsonist

Incorrect. He’s getting primaried by the Tea Party. Yes, that’s a small difference but it is different.

The difference being that you’re more responsible drunk than you are when you’re worried about being primaried by the Tea Party.

45 Kurt Princeton  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:28:44pm

re: #2 Kragar

There is literally not one single issue the GOP is right about, ever.

I can tell you one issue that Rush Limbaugh was correct about - he predicted that the second the bombers were proven to be Muslim, Leftists would fall over themselves defending those baby killing monsters.

46 efuseakay  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:29:34pm

So torture this guy. Refuse to read him his rights. But Obama offing all-Awlaki while he was overseas and actively engaging our soldiers in war is somehow grounds for impeachment? There they go, making sense like they never do.

47 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:29:42pm

re: #11 Kragar

My last post for a while. Stay safe everyone.

Where the hell did Kragar go?

Best regards and best wishes during a difficult time.

48 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:29:43pm

STINKY!!!!!!!

49 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:30:04pm

re: #11 Kragar

My last post for a while. Stay safe everyone.

Where the hell did Kragar go?

Best regards and best wishes during a difficult time.

50 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:30:25pm

re: #45 Kurt Princeton

What the fuck are you talking about?

51 bubba zanetti  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:30:32pm

Do I smell lighter fluid?

52 Ian G.  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:30:39pm

Because the Constitution only applies to Real Americans: white, Christian registered Republicans not from New England, New York, or the West Coast.

Oh, and Peter King, the genius GOP Congressman from Long Island, wants to step up surveillance of Muslim-Americans. King does know what he’s talking about when it comes to terrorism: the fucker was a proud supporter of the IRA for decades. Oh right, it’s not terrorism when white people do it.

My head hurts from teh stoopid.

53 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:30:43pm

I swear, these people are just not right in the head.

54 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:31:03pm

re: #45 Kurt Princeton

I can tell you one issue that Rush Limbaugh was correct about - he predicted that the second the bombers were proven to be Muslim, Leftists would fall over themselves defending those baby killing monsters.

Who might those leftists be? Answer quick, there won’t be much time.

55 HappyWarrior  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:31:09pm

re: #45 Kurt Princeton

I can tell you one issue that Rush Limbaugh was correct about - he predicted that the second the bombers were proven to be Muslim, Leftists would fall over themselves defending those baby killing monsters.

Fuck off. No leftist is defending these guys and you know and that pathetic fucker Limbaugh know it.

56 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:31:14pm

For the love of god why does Chris Mathews have Rudi Guliani on his show right now? It was bad enough that they had Tom Ridge on during Bubbles Greenspan’s show but Mr. 911? Really?

57 erik_t  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:31:47pm

re: #45 Kurt Princeton

Go pound sand.

58 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:31:50pm

I smell troll barbecuing. Smells like……..victory chicken.

59 HappyWarrior  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:31:59pm

I know a lot of lefties in Boston. I mean real lefties. These people are fucking pissed. But hey Rush Limbaugh said some shit that he pulled from his ass so by golly it must be true.

60 HoosierHoops  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:32:01pm

re: #45 Kurt Princeton

I can tell you one issue that Rush Limbaugh was correct about - he predicted that the second the bombers were proven to be Muslim, Leftists would fall over themselves defending those baby killing monsters.

Really? Really? Name one person in America defending them..Name just one or shut the f*ck up.

61 darthstar  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:32:32pm

The suspect is a US citizen, Lindsey…

62 Randall Gross  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:33:07pm

Warning this report was heard on CNN,

Authorities found the makings of another pressure cooker bomb and significant amounts of homemade explosives in the apartment

63 Bulworth  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:33:23pm

re: #45 Kurt Princeton

Which ‘leftists’? Please show your work.

64 Ian G.  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:33:51pm

re: #45 Kurt Princeton

I can tell you one issue that Rush Limbaugh was correct about - he predicted that the second the bombers were proven to be Muslim, Leftists would fall over themselves defending those baby killing monsters.

The hell are you talking about? What “baby killing monsters” are we defending? Did the country collapse because we followed the Constitution when dealing with Timothy McVeigh or Ramzi Yousef?

Come back here when you’re capable of making an ounce of sense.

65 Olsonist  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:34:20pm

Lindsay Graham is an Air Force reserve colonel in the Judge Advocate General’s Corps.

en.wikipedia.org

66 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:34:44pm

re: #62 Randall Gross

Warning this report was heard on CNN,

Authorities found the makings of another pressure cooker bomb and significant amounts of homemade explosives in the apartment

Heh—good info, but I love that CNN is coming with a Surgeon General’s warning.

67 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:34:47pm

re: #62 Randall Gross

Warning this report was heard on CNN,

Authorities found the makings of another pressure cooker bomb and significant amounts of homemade explosives in the apartment

Not surprising - they were obviously planning more attacks, and had several grenades and at least one pressure cooker bomb when they battled the cops.

68 jaunte  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:35:44pm

re: #65 Olsonist

Now that he’s in Congress he doesn’t have to think about the law anymore.

69 Randall Gross  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:36:07pm

Live news conference coming up

70 brennant  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:36:12pm

re: #67 Charles Johnson

Not surprising - they were obviously planning more attacks, and had several grenades and at least one pressure cooker bomb when they battled the cops.

Would this explain why we did not hear a claim of responsibility?

71 Bulworth  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:36:12pm

re: #68 jaunte

Confirmed. FACT. //

72 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:37:14pm

re: #67 Charles Johnson

Not surprising - they were obviously planning more attacks, and had several grenades and at least one pressure cooker bomb when they battled the cops.

I suspect the grenades might be sleepy citizens’ descriptions of some kind of small IED. Real grenades are hard to come by, and they would have been more deadly at the marathon.

73 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:37:41pm

re: #70 brennant

Would this explain why we did not hear a claim of responsibility?

That’s possible.

Seems to me like these two planned out everything. Except, of course, what to do in the event they were identified.

74 Bulworth  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:38:54pm

re: #73 Dr Lizardo

And how to avoid identification by the gazillion cameras in the area.

75 A Mom Anon  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:39:07pm

re: #73 Dr Lizardo

I’d guess that the cameras all over the place didn’t occur to them. OR they thought they could blend in enough that no one would have been able to pick them out even if they were caught on camera.

76 Randall Gross  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:39:19pm

re: #73 Dr Lizardo

That’s possible.

Seems to me like these two planned out everything. Except, of course, what to do in the event they were identified.

The 7-11 robbery that got the chase started tells me they aren’t highly trained terrorists.

77 klys  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:39:49pm

Man, just tired of a lot of the stupid today.

78 jaunte  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:39:50pm

re: #76 Randall Gross

The 7-11 robbery that got the chase started tells me they aren’t highly trained terrorists.

Or particularly well-funded.

79 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:39:50pm

re: #72 Decatur Deb

I suspect the grenades might be sleepy citizens’ descriptions of some kind of small IED. Real grenades are hard to come by, and they would have been more deadly at the marathon.

True - but check out this tweet by Tsarnaev the day after the attack:

80 A Mom Anon  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:40:06pm

re: #76 Randall Gross

I’m hearing now that there was no robbery, but again this was on TV awhile ago, so that may not be the case.

81 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:40:09pm

The account he’s tweeting to is locked.

82 erik_t  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:40:10pm

re: #75 A Mom Anon

I’d guess that the cameras all over the place didn’t occur to them. OR they thought they could blend in enough that no one would have been able to pick them out even if they were caught on camera.

Might have worked if not for a GRADE-AAA SUPER HARDCORE BADASS currently resting comfortably in a Boston-area hospital.

83 Bulworth  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:40:21pm

And just to review, what religion(s) did the Newtown shooter and the Aurora, CO gunman claim?

84 HappyWarrior  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:41:54pm

re: #83 Bulworth

And just to review, what religion(s) did the Newtown shooter and the Aurora, CO gunman claim?

None that I know of. Saw something earlier that the FRC is blaming sexual liberalism for the bombings. Yeah because thinking homosexuals should have equal rights under the law makes you bomb a popular sporting event in one of the first states to legalize gay marriage.

85 klys  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:42:26pm

re: #72 Decatur Deb

I suspect the grenades might be sleepy citizens’ descriptions of some kind of small IED. Real grenades are hard to come by, and they would have been more deadly at the marathon.

For what it’s worth, the grenades reference actually came over the police scanner during the chase. Probably from police, not civilians.

86 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:42:30pm

re: #81 Charles Johnson

The account he’s tweeting to is locked.

Abdul might be otherwise engaged.

87 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:42:41pm

re: #74 Bulworth

re: #75 A Mom Anon

re: #76 Randall Gross

The young often think they’re invulnerable. I’d factor that into it as well.

88 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:42:53pm

He was looking to buy something illegal, obviously, and given the timing I think it’s very likely weapons of some kind. Not impossible that he found some real grenades, but I guess we’ll have to wait to find out.

89 wrenchwench  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:43:09pm

re: #80 A Mom Anon

I’m hearing now that there was no robbery, but again this was on TV awhile ago, so that may not be the case.

I read no gas station robbery, but there’s still a 7-11 robbery…

90 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:43:24pm

re: #83 Bulworth

And just to review, what religion(s) did the Newtown shooter and the Aurora, CO gunman claim?

I don’t think religion was a motivating factor. He is, quite literally insane in the clinical sense of the word.

91 wrenchwench  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:43:34pm

re: #88 Charles Johnson

He was looking to buy something illegal, obviously, and given the timing I think it’s very likely weapons of some kind. Not impossible that he found some real grenades, but I guess we’ll have to wait to find out.

One source called ‘em pipe bombs.

92 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:43:39pm

re: #88 Charles Johnson

He was looking to buy something illegal, obviously, and given the timing I think it’s very likely weapons of some kind. Not impossible that he found some real grenades, but I guess we’ll have to wait to find out.

Yeah—they’re not very subtle.

93 Shvaughn  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:44:25pm

re: #90 Killgore Trout

I don’t think religion was a motivating factor. He is, quite literally insane in the clinical sense of the word.

Religion is only a motivating factor for Muslims.

//

94 wrenchwench  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:44:36pm

re: #90 Killgore Trout

I don’t think religion was a motivating factor. He is, quite literally insane in the clinical sense of the word.

Only a clinician can say it’s literally in the clinical sense.

95 erik_t  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:45:01pm

re: #86 Decatur Deb

Abdul might be otherwise engaged.

He’s been…
(puts on sunglasses)
sent to the gulag.

YEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

96 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:45:26pm

re: #90 Killgore Trout

re: #94 wrenchwench

Only a clinician can say it’s literally in the clinical sense.

KT stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night

97 klys  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:45:35pm

re: #95 erik_t

He’s been…
(puts on sunglasses)
sent to the gulag.

YEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

Normally I hate that, but you get points for good effect.

98 DesertDenizen  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:46:50pm

One has to remember that when a modern Republican says “our liberties” the words have very specific meanings.

“Our” = Well-off, white, male, heterosexual, Christian, reactionary
“Liberties” = ability to do whatever we want to some one who doesn’t meet the six criteria above

99 HappyWarrior  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:47:00pm

re: #95 erik_t

He’s been…
(puts on sunglasses)
sent to the gulag.

YEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

Okay that one literally made me laugh aloud because I read that in Caruso’s voice.

100 EPR-radar  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:48:50pm

re: #98 DesertDenizen

One has to remember that when a modern Republican says “our liberties” the words have very specific meanings.

“Our” = Well-off, white, male, heterosexual, Christian, reactionary
“Liberties” = ability to do whatever we want to some one who doesn’t meet the six criteria above

Commendably efficient summary.

101 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:50:03pm

re: #98 DesertDenizen

One has to remember that when a modern Republican says “our liberties” the words have very specific meanings.

“Our” = Well-off, white, male, heterosexual, Christian, reactionary
“Liberties” = ability to do whatever we want to some one who doesn’t meet the six criteria above

The only thing I think you forgot is something about moar gunz.

102 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:50:05pm

CNN (yeah, I know) now reporting that they threw one grenade and five pipe bombs at police. So apparently they did have at least one real grenade.

103 Kurt Princeton  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:50:34pm

re: #3 HappyWarrior

Yeah constitutional rights should go out the window just because this happened…..

Wow - Lefties have become Constitutional purists now that one of their own are in trouble. Where was the concern for the Constitution when Obama wanted to destroy the Second Amendment? Remember Nakoula Basseley Nakoula? No, of course you don’t. How about then the Obama admin threatened the Catholic Church, if they don’t pay for contraception, sterilization and abortifacient drugs for their employees?

Remember the Second Amendment? Obama has declared that he’s going to destroy that through executive orders. In 2010, Obama’s attorney general Eric Holder sought to soften Miranda protections for anyone accused of being a terrorist - a designation which includes, anti-abortion activists, gun owners, military veterans — and Ron Paul supporters.

The Fourth Amendment protections against unreasonable search and seizure are null and void as soon as you step into an airport, where you, your grandmother, and your infant children become subject to public sexual assault at the blue-gloved hands of Transportation Safety Administration (TSA) “workers.”

Then there’s the Fifth Amendment with Obama’s takeover of General Motors, whereupon, the first-in-line creditors and bondholders were denied the monies due them and gave them to his union supporters, thereby violating the Fifth Amendment’s last provision that no “private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.”

Ninth and Tenth Amendments. In May 2011, the President directed his attorney general to threaten Texas with a shutdown of all air travel into and out of the state if its legislature persisted in passing a law that would hold TSA workers criminally responsible for conduct defined as sexual assault. This came a year after Obama attacked Arizona for passing state laws that supported federal immigration laws — but not Obama immigration policy.

But now that it’s someone you like in trouble, you’ve suddenly become a Constitutional purist.

104 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:51:04pm

And now the copy pasta.

105 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:51:08pm

re: #102 Charles Johnson

CNN (yeah, I know) now reporting that they threw one grenade and five pipe bombs at police. So apparently they did have at least one real grenade.

CNN grenade==bag of burning dog shit.

106 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:52:10pm

Ok, I must take a moment to share my OUTRAGE at this statement:

“The verdict of misadventure does not mean that system failure or deficiencies contributed to her death,” explained Dr McLoughlin. They are findings in relation to the management of her treatment.

This in reference to the death of Savita Halappanavar, the Irish woman who died because she did not receive an abortion.

The inquest returned a verdict of Medical Misadventure.

107 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:52:18pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

And now the copy pasta.

Al dente, please

108 HappyWarrior  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:52:23pm

re: #103 Kurt Princeton

Wow - Lefties have become Constitutional purists now that one of their own are in trouble. Where was the concern for the Constitution when Obama wanted to destroy the Second Amendment? Remember Nakoula Basseley Nakoula? No, of course you don’t. How about then the Obama admin threatened the Catholic Church, if they don’t pay for contraception, sterilization and abortifacient drugs for their employees?

Remember the Second Amendment? Obama has declared that he’s going to destroy that through executive orders. In 2010, Obama’s attorney general Eric Holder sought to soften Miranda protections for anyone accused of being a terrorist - a designation which includes, anti-abortion activists, gun owners, military veterans — and Ron Paul supporters.

The Fourth Amendment protections against unreasonable search and seizure are null and void as soon as you step into an airport, where you, your grandmother, and your infant children become subject to public sexual assault at the blue-gloved hands of Transportation Safety Administration (TSA) “workers.”

Then there’s the Fifth Amendment with Obama’s takeover of General Motors, whereupon, the first-in-line creditors and bondholders were denied the monies due them and gave them to his union supporters, thereby violating the Fifth Amendment’s last provision that no “private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.”

Ninth and Tenth Amendments. In May 2011, the President directed his attorney general to threaten Texas with a shutdown of all air travel into and out of the state if its legislature persisted in passing a law that would hold TSA workers criminally responsible for conduct defined as sexual assault. This came a year after Obama attacked Arizona for passing state laws that supported federal immigration laws — but not Obama immigration policy.

But now that it’s someone you like in trouble, you’ve suddenly become a Constitutional purist.

Someone I like? Is that really the best you got? You think I like this murdering scumbag? I got news for you. I’ve got a problem when people’s constitutional rights are violated regardless of who is president.

109 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:52:27pm

The dreary architecture of the wingnut mind.

110 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:52:39pm

re: #105 Decatur Deb

CNN grenade==bag of burning dog shit.

ftfy

111 Randall Gross  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:52:39pm

re: #103 Kurt Princeton

Yeah, we live under such freaking tyranny

///

112 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:53:46pm

STINKY!!!!!

113 klys  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:53:51pm

Puppies! Kittens! Bunnies! Unicorns!

This seems about as productive as attempting a conversation with wingnuts, right now.

114 Skip Intro  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:54:01pm

If anybody thinks the right wing isn’t going to use this to restrict civil liberties for all of us even more, they’re living in fantasy land. This is a right wing fantasy come true.

115 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:54:16pm

re: #111 Randall Gross

Yeah, we live under such freaking tyranny

///

I know I do

Hey, I’ve been married for 23 years!!

OUCH ,, oh, hi honey. Didn’t see you standing behind me !!
//

116 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:54:16pm

re: #102 Charles Johnson

CNN (yeah, I know) now reporting that they threw one grenade and five pipe bombs at police. So apparently they did have at least one real grenade.

since it’s CNN, maybe that grenade was actually a real pineapple that they picked up at 7-11.

117 thedopefishlives  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:54:30pm

re: #112 FemNaziBitch

STINKY!!!!!

Nah. We’re sharpening our claws on this one. Gamey buttocks grilled with spicy habanero for dinner tonight - after this week’s winter storm, we need the heat.

118 HappyWarrior  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:54:45pm

re: #115 sattv4u2

I know I do

Hey, I’ve been married for 23 years!!

OUCH ,, oh, hi honey. Didn’t see you standing behind me !!
//

Well played Satt, well played.

119 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:55:03pm

re: #118 HappyWarrior

Well played Satt, well played.

:)

120 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:55:14pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

And now the copy pasta.

the foodie wars resume!

121 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:55:43pm

re: #117 thedopefishlives

Nah. We’re sharpening our claws on this one. Gamey buttocks grilled with spicy habanero for dinner tonight - after this week’s winter storm, we need the heat.

Troll kebab. Sounds good. I’ll take the yogurt sauce. Extra feta and tomatoes, please.

122 Randall Gross  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:55:44pm

re: #103 Kurt Princeton

Eric Holder sought to soften Miranda protections for anyone accused of being a terrorist - a designation which includes, anti-abortion activists, gun owners, military veterans — and Ron Paul supporters.

Right. show me the Ron Paul supporters who have been designated as terrorists, or the anti-abortion activists who have been designated as terrorists. I don’t mean mentioned in reports, I mean officially designated as terrorist by the authorities. Can’t do it?

123 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:56:18pm

re: #108 HappyWarrior

It must be hell on the nerves to live in the fantasy land you’ve obviously concocted for yourself.

124 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:56:43pm

Here’s the account Dzhokhar Tsarnaev tweeted to about “black market” items:

@therealAbdul_

They seem nice.

125 danarchy  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:56:45pm

So there is a pretty gory image going around that claims to be the older brother. Won’t link to it here, but this article seems to lend it some credence.

boston.com

126 thedopefishlives  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:57:22pm

re: #121 Dr Lizardo

Troll kebab. Sounds good. I’ll take the yogurt sauce. Extra feta and tomatoes, please.

Side dishes and sauces/dressings are all on the side table.

127 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:57:57pm

re: #109 Charles Johnson

The dreary architecture of the wingnut mind.

I’m waiting for him to tell us that Ricin Guy is a DEMOCRAT because he took a picture of a bumper sticker on a Lexus.

128 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:57:57pm

re: #114 Skip Intro

If anybody thinks the right wing isn’t going to use this to restrict civil liberties for all of us even more, they’re living in fantasy land. This is a right wing fantasy come true.

Oh no—that only works when the atrocity is on a Republican president’s watch. They’re all champions of civil liberties now, with one of Them in the White Hut.

129 Sionainn  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:58:23pm

re: #45 Kurt Princeton

I can tell you one issue that Rush Limbaugh was correct about - he predicted that the second the bombers were proven to be Muslim, Leftists would fall over themselves defending those baby killing monsters.

Nobody is defending them, asshole.

130 Lidane  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:58:24pm

re: #11 Kragar

My last post for a while. Stay safe everyone.

Where the hell did Kragar go?

*hugs*

Take care.

131 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:59:29pm

re: #126 thedopefishlives

Side dishes and sauces/dressings are all on the side table.

Excellent.

132 klys  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:59:33pm

Speculation, it’s so fun!
Speculation for everyone!
Who needs facts when we have news?
Everyone wears detective shoes!

On the net or on the air,
Verification just ain’t there.
If you do, you won’t be first:
Reporting last is just the worst.

…

It feels like it needs one more stanza but I give up.

133 HappyWarrior  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:59:37pm

re: #127 Vicious Babushka

I’m waiting for him to tell us that Ricin Guy is a DEMOCRAT because he took a picture of a bumper sticker on a Lexus.

That would actually be an upgrade. He thinks we like Tsaranaev because we don’t like Graham saying his rights shouldn’t be read to him. Yeah makes total sense. Makes total sense if you believe what Limbaugh says as the gospel and undisputed truth.

134 EPR-radar  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:59:42pm

re: #103 Kurt Princeton

You’re over a target rich environment (Obama/Democratic party failures on civil liberties issues) and not hitting a single target.

Of course, it has to be pointed out that as bad as Obama/the Democrats have been on civil liberties, the GOP (especially under Bush II) was much worse.

135 Lidane  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:00:18pm

re: #45 Kurt Princeton

Youtube Video
136 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:00:22pm

re: #106 FemNaziBitch

Ok, I must take a moment to share my OUTRAGE at this statement:

This in reference to the death of Savita Halappanavar, the Irish woman who died because she did not receive an abortion.

The inquest returned a verdict of Medical Misadventure.

Sorry, I am so pissed, I forgot the link. Yeah, It’s a Pages link.

137 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:00:50pm

re: #132 klys

Speculation, it’s so fun!
Speculation for everyone!
Who needs facts when we have news?
Everyone wears detective shoes!

On the net or on the air,
Verification just ain’t there.
If you do, you won’t be first:
Reporting last is just the worst.

…

It feels like it needs one more stanza but I give up.

so on my fb (if you don’t mind)

138 efuseakay  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:01:09pm

Just dawned on me. Are they checking the sewers for this guy…

139 klys  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:01:23pm

re: #137 FemNaziBitch

so on my fb (if you don’t mind)

Go ahead.

140 BongCrodny  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:01:27pm

re: #103 Kurt Princeton

294 words to say “derp.”

141 HappyWarrior  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:01:59pm

re: #136 FemNaziBitch

Sorry, I am so pissed, I forgot the link. Yeah, It’s a Pages link.

That’s a shame. There should be criminal charges there. I love the Irish people but they’ve got to get over the stigma on abortion. They really do.

142 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:02:00pm

Wingnuts are wetting themselves because someone at PJ Media discovered that THE BOSTON BOMBER WAS AN OBAMA SUPPORTER OMG based on some lame Tweets.

I just can’t even…

143 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:02:04pm

re: #138 efuseakay

Just dawned on me. Are they checking the sewers for this guy…

Good question.

144 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:02:20pm

There’s another news conference starting shortly.

145 EPR-radar  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:02:41pm

re: #140 BongCrodny

294 words to say “derp.”

Maybe it was really ‘herp a derpity doo dah’ ?

146 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:02:47pm
147 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:03:39pm

re: #141 HappyWarrior

That’s a shame. There should be criminal charges there. I love the Irish people but they’ve got to get over the stigma on abortion. They really do.

I can’t imagine what her husband is going thru …

148 HappyWarrior  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:03:43pm

re: #138 efuseakay

Just dawned on me. Are they checking the sewers for this guy…

I would imagine that they’re not ruling that out as a possibility.

149 Skip Intro  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:03:44pm

re: #127 Vicious Babushka

I’m waiting for him to tell us that Ricin Guy is a DEMOCRAT because he took a picture of a bumper sticker on a Lexus.

You haven’t been paying attention. Been there, done that, all on Dim Jim’s site today.

150 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:03:46pm

re: #103 Kurt Princeton

Could I please have some Blue Cheese Dressing to go with that word salad??

151 Kurt Princeton  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:04:01pm

re: #98 DesertDenizen

One has to remember that when a modern Republican says “our liberties” the words have very specific meanings.

“Our” = Well-off, white, male, heterosexual, Christian, reactionary
“Liberties” = ability to do whatever we want to some one who doesn’t meet the six criteria above

OK, you hate whites, men, heterosexuals, Christians and conservatives…. and you cheer on others who kill the above.

I have less contempt for the bombers than I do for you.

152 HappyWarrior  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:04:04pm

re: #147 FemNaziBitch

I can’t imagine what her husband is going thru …

I know. That poor guy. Didn’t they have other children too?

153 Shvaughn  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:04:53pm

re: #151 Kurt Princeton

OK, you hate whites, men, heterosexuals, Christians and conservatives…. and you cheer on others who kill the above.

I have less contempt for the bombers than I do for you.

This troll is boring as fuck.

154 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:04:59pm

re: #149 Skip Intro

You haven’t been paying attention. Been there, done that, all on Dim Jim’s site today.

I’m talking about our guest Mr. Princeton.

155 klys  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:05:24pm

re: #153 Shvaughn

This troll is boring as fuck.

Would plus-1 again.

156 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:05:28pm

re: #152 HappyWarrior

I know. That poor guy. Didn’t they have other children too?

yeah

157 wrenchwench  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:05:33pm

re: #151 Kurt Princeton

OK, you hate whites, men, heterosexuals, Christians and conservatives…. and you cheer on others who kill the above.

I have less contempt for the bombers than I do for you.

A bit angry, are we?

158 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:05:36pm

re: #138 efuseakay

Just dawned on me. Are they checking the sewers for this guy…

said it before ,, but ,,

12 hours after the shootout that ended with his brother dead, White Hat found some hole to hide in because he sustained serious injuries in the shootout and can’t move and/ or has bled to death. The cops just haven’t found the “hole” yet

159 Kurt Princeton  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:05:38pm

re: #105 Decatur Deb

CNN grenade==bag of burning dog shit.

Your friends murdered an eight year old boy and two others. He wounded, mained and crippled 170 other innocent people.

They are not Merry Pranksters.

160 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:05:42pm

re: #153 Shvaughn

This troll is boring as fuck.

INORITE?

161 stabby  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:05:47pm

I was going to say something about the troll till I saw the copypasta, just ban and delete already, what trash!

162 jaunte  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:05:49pm

Derpitty doo dah, derpity yay.

163 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:05:54pm

re: #151 Kurt Princeton

OK, you hate whites, men, heterosexuals, Christians and conservatives…. and you cheer on others who kill the above.

I have less contempt for the bombers than I do for you.

I find that surprisingly easy to believe.

164 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:05:54pm

re: #154 Vicious Babushka

I’m talking about our guest Mr. Princeton.

guest

good one!

165 Skip Intro  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:06:06pm

re: #154 Vicious Babushka

I’m talking about our guest Mr. Princeton.

Sorry. I didn’t get much sleep last night. Probably best if I just take the rest of the day off.

166 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:06:24pm

Presser still calling them “suspects”

167 EPR-radar  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:06:29pm

re: #151 Kurt Princeton

OK, you hate whites, men, heterosexuals, Christians and conservatives…. and you cheer on others who kill the above.

I have less contempt for the bombers than I do for you.

Hey dipshit, the bombers have killed people. Being mean to conservative ideology on the internet is worse than killing people?

168 jaunte  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:06:49pm

re: #167 EPR-radar

He’s sensitive.

169 wrenchwench  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:06:59pm

re: #166 FemNaziBitch

Presser still calling them “suspects”

It’s a legal term for people who have not been convicted in a court of law.

170 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:07:19pm

re: #45 Kurt Princeton

Yep. I had you pegged as an America hating troll. Bet you’re a chicken hawk too.

171 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:07:23pm

re: #159 Kurt Princeton

Your friends murdered an eight year old boy and two others. He wounded, mained and crippled 170 other innocent people.

They are not Merry Pranksters.

What the fucking fuck are you blathering on about, you fucktard? Whose friends?

172 klys  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:07:31pm

re: #168 jaunte

He’s sensitive.

I laughed.

173 thedopefishlives  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:07:36pm

re: #151 Kurt Princeton

Pay attention to my avatar. Otherwise, the door is that way. —>

174 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:07:41pm

Why do trolls always invoke zero-sum illogic.

?

175 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:07:44pm

re: #168 jaunte

He’s sensitive.

Yes indeed.

176 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:07:46pm

I have to take the pie out of the oven.

177 Lidane  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:07:59pm

re: #167 EPR-radar

Hey dipshit, the bombers have killed people. Being mean to conservative ideology on the internet is worse than killing people?

Conservative persecution!

Y U hate RWNJ troll?

178 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:08:02pm

re: #169 wrenchwench

It’s a legal term for people who have not been convicted in a court of law.

Yes, I know. I like to be specific in these things.

:0

179 klys  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:08:02pm

re: #176 Vicious Babushka

I have to take the pie out of the oven.

Can I have a piece?

180 wrenchwench  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:08:12pm

re: #176 Vicious Babushka

I have to take the pie out of the oven.

More room for gamey buttocks?

181 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:08:26pm

re: #159 Kurt Princeton

Your friends murdered an eight year old boy and two others. He wounded, mained and crippled 170 other innocent people.

They are not Merry Pranksters.

Words fail me.

No, they don’t—-fuck off.

182 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:08:56pm

re: #165 Skip Intro

Sorry. I didn’t get much sleep last night. Probably best if I just take the rest of the day off.

I agree, go ahead. You’ve earned it.

183 Lidane  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:09:35pm

re: #159 Kurt Princeton

Merry Pranksters?

Try moving your cultural references forward a few decades. Not everyone here was alive when the Vietnam War was a thing.

184 bubba zanetti  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:09:37pm

yummmm, troll bbq, copypasta salad, and martyr cookies!

185 thedopefishlives  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:09:42pm

So let me get this straight: My choices are either hate Islam, or love terrorists. Sorry, I choose door #3.

186 gwangung  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:09:45pm

re: #159 Kurt Princeton

Your friends murdered an eight year old boy and two others. He wounded, mained and crippled 170 other innocent people.

They are not Merry Pranksters.

The east Timor judge gives a 2.0 then goes back to sleep.

Need to up your game, dude.

187 klys  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:09:46pm

re: #165 Skip Intro

Sorry. I didn’t get much sleep last night. Probably best if I just take the rest of the day off.

We’ve all got days like that and today of all days is a good day to take care of yourself.

188 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:09:52pm

re: #151 Kurt Princeton

You sad little hater. Bet you claim to be a Christian too? Guess what? God is laughing at you, fool.

189 klys  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:10:32pm

re: #183 Lidane

Merry Pranksters?

Try moving your cultural references forward a few decades. Not everyone here was alive when the Vietnam War was a thing.

Wait, that was like an actual reference to something?

History always ended up sputtering out of momentum around WWII.

190 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:10:48pm

re: #166 FemNaziBitch

Presser still calling them “suspects”

have to. If White Hat survives and goes to trial, calling him anything else is an opening for his lawyer

191 HappyWarrior  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:10:54pm

re: #185 thedopefishlives

So let me get this straight: My choices are either hate Islam, or love terrorists. Sorry, I choose door #3.

And behind door number 3 is a pony.

192 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:11:03pm

re: #188 William Barnett-Lewis

You sad little hater. Bet you claim to be a Christian too? Guess what? God is laughing at you, fool.

Krom, the FSM and Cthulhu are chuckling as well.

193 Sionainn  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:11:13pm

re: #151 Kurt Princeton

OK, you hate whites, men, heterosexuals, Christians and conservatives…. and you cheer on others who kill the above.

I have less contempt for the bombers than I do for you.

Weak. Surely you can do better than that.

194 klys  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:11:31pm

re: #191 HappyWarrior

And behind door number 3 is a pony.

With kittens and puppies and reasonable human being status!

195 The Mountain That Blogs  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:11:34pm

re: #183 Lidane

Try moving your cultural references forward a few decades. Not everyone here was alive when the Vietnam War was a thing.

Seriously. Had to look that one up.

196 Sionainn  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:12:21pm

re: #157 wrenchwench

A bit angry, are we?

He seems to be defending the bombers. Another case of projection, I see.

197 thedopefishlives  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:12:28pm

re: #191 HappyWarrior

And behind door number 3 is a pony.

Oh good. The new little fishspawn will love that when she grows older.

198 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:12:37pm

I have to concur.

199 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:13:26pm

re: #194 klys

With kittens and puppies and reasonable human being status!

BABIES, PUPPIES, KITTENS and horses!!!!!!!!!

I like Door #3.

200 HappyWarrior  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:13:58pm

re: #197 thedopefishlives

Oh good. The new little fishspawn will love that when she grows older.

Yeah my cousin’s little girl is a rider too. Our grandmother used to own horses. Beautiful creatures.

201 HappyWarrior  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:14:16pm

re: #199 FemNaziBitch

BABIES, PUPPIES, KITTENS and horses!!!!!!!!!

I like Door #3.

I do too even if I have cat allergies.

202 Sionainn  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:14:20pm

re: #176 Vicious Babushka

I have to take the pie out of the oven.

Mmmmmm…..pie.

203 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:14:28pm

re: #191 HappyWarrior

And behind door number 3 is a pony.

Great. just what I wanted

Horse shit!!

204 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:14:51pm

re: #203 sattv4u2

Great. just what I wanted

Horse shit!!

Party Pooper!

205 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:15:18pm

re: #204 FemNaziBitch

Party Pooper!

That pun belongs in the crapper

206 HappyWarrior  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:16:02pm

re: #203 sattv4u2

Great. just what I wanted

Horse shit!!

Ah true but I think this is the rare case where real horse shit is preferable to figurative horse shit.

207 thedopefishlives  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:16:08pm

re: #200 HappyWarrior

Yeah my cousin’s little girl is a rider too. Our grandmother used to own horses. Beautiful creatures.

I rode one once. It definitely knew that I was an inexperienced rider. I would love to be able to actually ride.

208 abolitionist  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:20:29pm

Had 3 extreme alerts (tornado warnings) to phone in last hour; expecting another soon. A very strong storm cell is now close to Petersburg VA, on a northeast heading. I’m a little north of that, but on the path. Anticipating I’ll be under it by 6:40; guessing it will pass just east of Richmond. Hearing thunder now.

209 Whack-A-Mole  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:22:26pm

re: #208 abolitionist

Be safe. Hope everything misses you.

210 efuseakay  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:24:46pm

re: #148 HappyWarrior

I would imagine that they’re not ruling that out as a possibility.

Sure hope not. Release the TMNT!

211 HappyWarrior  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:35:44pm

re: #210 efuseakay

Sure hope not. Release the TMNT!

Now there’s an idea.

212 Wargala  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:53:34pm

Actually, in an article you posted, right before this one, it mention’s he’s NOT a US citizen.

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is a native of Kyrgyzstan.

bostonglobe.com

He should be put on trial, and I believe he should be given the same Constitutional protections as anyone else.

But let’s not let facts get into the way of your argument. :)

213 philosophus invidius  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:55:32pm

re: #174 FemNaziBitch

Why do trolls always invoke zero-sum illogic.

?

The logic of a “racial realist.”

214 DesertDenizen  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 3:56:21pm

Oh no, troll holds me in contempt. Whatever shall I do. Oh, wait, I’m a liberal atheist public employee in rural southern Arizona, your internet contempt is about a 0.2 on my personal richter scale of contempt.

215 wrenchwench  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 4:04:34pm

re: #212 Wargala

Actually, in an article you posted, right before this one, it mention’s he’s NOT a US citizen.

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is a native of Kyrgyzstan.

bostonglobe.com

He should be put on trial, and I believe he should be given the same Constitutional protections as anyone else.

But let’s not let facts get into the way of your argument. :)

It is possible to be born elsewhere and subsequently become a US citizen, much as that fact might pain you.

216 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 4:07:06pm

re: #212 Wargala

Actually, in an article you posted, right before this one, it mention’s he’s NOT a US citizen.

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is a native of Kyrgyzstan.

bostonglobe.com

He should be put on trial, and I believe he should be given the same Constitutional protections as anyone else.

But let’s not let facts get into the way of your argument. :)

I love it when a total fail is expressed so smugly.

He’s a naturalized American citizen.

Oops.

217 Wargala  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 4:09:59pm

re: #216 Charles Johnson

Well to be fair, you are the expert on “smug”.

And “total fail” is something kids say.

218 wrenchwench  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 4:11:30pm

re: #217 Wargala

And “total fail” is something kids say.

I bet you hear it a lot.

219 CuriousLurker  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 4:14:02pm

re: #212 Wargala

Actually, in an article you posted, right before this one, it mention’s he’s NOT a US citizen.

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is a native of Kyrgyzstan.

bostonglobe.com

He should be put on trial, and I believe he should be given the same Constitutional protections as anyone else.

But let’s not let facts get into the way of your argument. :)

re: #215 wrenchwench

It is possible to be born elsewhere and subsequently become a US citizen, much as that fact might pain you.

As usual, wrenchwench is correct.

A government official confirmed that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev became a naturalized American citizen on Sept. 11, 2012, and Tamerlan Tsarnaev had a green card.

nytimes.com

220 Wargala  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 4:14:12pm

re: #218 wrenchwench

Yes I do. I come here often and see Charles say it.

221 AlexRogan  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 4:15:16pm

re: #45 Kurt Princeton

I can tell you one issue that Rush Limbaugh was correct about - he predicted that the second the bombers were proven to be Muslim, Leftists would fall over themselves defending those baby killing monsters.

Hey, jackass…that “baby killing monster” is still, as of last year, a naturalized US citizen, which means that, if caught, he still has the constitutional right of due process.

If caught alive and found guilty in a court of law, I have no problem with the kid spending the rest of his life in prison, without the possibility of parole.

You can just get fucked.

222 wrenchwench  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 4:19:43pm

re: #220 Wargala

Yes I do. I come here often and see Charles say it.

Strange motivation for your visits.

223 Varek Raith  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 4:20:02pm

re: #212 Wargala

Actually, in an article you posted, right before this one, it mention’s he’s NOT a US citizen.

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is a native of Kyrgyzstan.

bostonglobe.com

He should be put on trial, and I believe he should be given the same Constitutional protections as anyone else.

But let’s not let facts get into the way of your argument. :)

Facts? Ok.
He’s a US citizen as of 9-11-2012.
Why do you hate the Constitution? Why so eager to throw it out the window when it suits you types?
NEXT!

224 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 4:24:19pm

re: #217 Wargala

So, in other words, you were wrong, and instead of copping to it you’re going to act like an even bigger jerk.

225 EPR-radar  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 4:41:17pm

re: #221 AlexRogan

Hey, jackass…that “baby killing monster” is still, as of last year, a naturalized US citizen, which means that, if caught, he still has the constitutional right of due process.

If caught alive and found guilty in a court of law, I have no problem with the kid spending the rest of his life in prison, without the possibility of parole.

You can just get fucked.

For the record, someone in the US who is not a citizen is still entitled to due process protection if arrested for a crime, recent and deplorable innovations in US legal theory notwithstanding.

226 Varek Raith  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 4:42:41pm

re: #225 EPR-radar

For the record, someone in the US who is not a citizen is still entitled to due process protection if arrested for a crime, recent and deplorable innovations in US legal theory notwithstanding.

Wingnuts are pathetically ignorant of the Constitution they claim to be the defenders of.

227 stockman  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 5:11:25pm

The idea of a limited Miranda disclosure has been floated before this.

nytimes.com

228 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 5:16:42pm

Right wingers really REALLY want to torture somebody.

229 spiderx  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 5:53:35pm

NBC reporting has been very good compared to the epic fail that has been Fox/CNN.

230 spiderx  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 5:56:48pm

after Oklahoma City you didn’t hear republicans suggesting not to read McVeigh his miranda rights. What’s changed? Well for one, the right sees fear as a political tool.

231 Kurt Princeton  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 8:33:21pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

What the fuck are you talking about?

Sorry, but what I wrote was abundantly clear. Rush predicted that, if the Boston bombing was proven to be unleashed by Muslims, Leftists would fall over themselves standing up for this animal’s rights.

Rush was, once again, proven correct.

232 Kurt Princeton  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 8:35:19pm

re: #170 William Barnett-Lewis

Yep. I had you pegged as an America hating troll.

Rush predicted that if the bomber(s) were proven to be Muslim, the Left would become hysterical.

Thank you for providing an excellent example of what Mr. Limbaugh foresaw.

233 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 8:37:34pm

Dead thread wingnut hero tries for another final comment — denied!

234 Kurt Princeton  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 8:43:39pm

re: #221 AlexRogan

Hey, jackass…that “baby killing monster” is still, as of last year, a naturalized US citizen, which means that, if caught, he still has the constitutional right of due process.

My, my. Look who’s suddenly rediscovered the Constitution.

You didn’t have any trouble with Obama attempting to shred the First Amendment during the Citizen’s United SCOTUS ruling. Or by bringing back the Fairness Doctrine.

You don’t care that Obama wants to shred the Second Amendment by simply signing executive orders.

Obama trashed the Fourth Amendment.

About the Fifth - I find it interesting that Obama can use drones to kill US Citizens - but suddenly you’re worried about due process?

Would you like me to continue?

235 Kurt Princeton  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 8:44:49pm

re: #233 Charles Johnson

Dead thread wingnut hero tries for another final comment — denied!

Run like the coward you are.

236 klys  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 8:45:26pm

Please, Charles? I’ll ask nicely.

237 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 8:55:40pm

re: #236 klys

Please, Charles? I’ll ask nicely.

Oh, OK.

238 danhenry1  Fri, Apr 19, 2013 10:23:42pm

re: #231 Kurt Princeton

Rush has gotten exactly what he demands from all of his sheep.
He has convinced you that he is THE ONE with the answers, and then, proves it to YOU, by your obvious inability to think for yourself.
That is sad.


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