Updates: Ricin Letter Suspect Released on Bond; No Ricin Found in His Home or Car

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Investigators in Mississippi were unable to find any evidence of ricin poison in the home or car of Elvis impersonator Paul Kevin Curtis, and today he was released on bond.

Slate also has some interesting details on the ricin found in those letters:

Investigators believe that the ricin in the letters was made by crudely chopping castor beans in a food processor or blender, but authorities found neither device in Curtis’ home. Bolstering his case was the fact that police also found no trace of the poison in his home or car, and no Internet searches for how to make the drug on his computer.

If that’s accurate, then this wasn’t much of an attack at all — the only way that kind of crude ricin would be dangerous is if you sprinkled it on your salad.

And there may be another suspect, according to Curtis’ attorney:

Earlier this week, Curtis’ attorney, Christi McCoy, pointed to another possible suspect she said may have framed her client: alleged child molester and former political hopeful J. Everett Dutschke. Dutschke apparently has a long history with both the judge who was sent the third letter and her son, Steve Holland, a state lawmaker. As the son explained to USA Today, Dutschke “hates the Hollands with a passion.” He ran against, and lost to, Holland in 2007, no doubt explaining at least some of the ill will.

…Here’s USA Today with more on the similarities between Curtis and Dutschke:

According to their online posts, Dutschke and Curtis are both musicians, martial artists and members of Mensa, an international society for people with high IQs. Dutschke says he is an officer in the organization. Both were known for ranting online and writing Internet posts and emails to prominent figures.

MENSA! I knew it. This proves that it’s time to start rounding up and deporting all Mensa members.

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42 comments
1 Lidane  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 12:26:33pm

Weirdness abounds:

2 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 12:26:55pm

IT WAS JUST A HARMLESS PRANK! YOU STUPID 100IQ PEOPLE DON’T APPRECIATE SUBTLE HUMOR!!11!!!

I have 167IQ and I play 3D chess in a 2D checkers world!!11

3 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 12:30:09pm
4 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 12:30:26pm
MENSA! I knew it. This proves that it’s time to start rounding up and deporting all Mensa members.

Send ‘em someplace nice so I can enjoy visiting my several family members…

Frank says:

I’ll do the stupid thing first and then you shy people follow…

5 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 12:32:37pm

Have to wonder how the Men In Black would portray MENSA members.

6 Greup  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 12:34:21pm

Is this the start of the Zombie Apocalypse? They are coming for the Brains!

7 lawhawk  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 12:34:22pm

re: #1 Lidane

Weirdness indeed:

The FBI originally focused on Paul Kevin Curtis, a Mississippi Elvis impersonator, due to his initials and similar language to his many online writings that appeared in the poisoned letters. Curtis was released from jail on bond Tuesday and his attorneys have a joint press conference with federal officials scheduled for 5 p.m. Central time.

On Monday, Curtis’ lawyer, Christi McCoy, said she believed Dutschke could have been responsible for mailing the letters noting he had argued with Curtis over email.

Dutschke denied any involvement in the ricin case in an interview with a local newspaper, though he admitted he spoke with FBI agents on Thursday and allowed them to search his home. TPM spoke with Dutschke Tuesday shortly after the news of Curtis’ release.

“I’m alive,” Dutschke said when asked how he was.

Dutschke expressed disbelief when told of Curtis’ release.

“What did you just say?” he asked.

We repeated that Curtis had been released.

“You’re kidding me,” said Dutshke. “For what?”

We told him we were unsure and asked whether he knew if officials were still investigating him in the case.

“I really can’t answer that question at this exact second,” he said.

Dutschke then said he had to go. Subsequent attempts to speak with him were unsuccessful. Less than an hour later FBI agents arrived at Dutschke’s house and he told local reporters on the scene they were there to question him.

This is not Dutschke’s first brush with the law. Earlier this year, Dutschke, who operates a taekwondo studio in Tupelo, Miss., was charged with one count of child molestation for a case involving a 7-year-old female. He was then released on bond.

Note, the charges haven’t been dropped. He’s just been released on bail for the moment. That will probably change if the FBI arrests someone else (Dutschke’s looking like a probable suspect as per this article).

8 Mattand  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 12:34:25pm
MENSA! I knew it. This proves that it’s time to start rounding up and deporting all Mensa members.

MEEEEENNNNSSSSSAAAAAA!!!!!!!

9 Bulworth  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 12:36:22pm

Law enforcement officers now report seeking the Saudi National from the Boston Marathon attacks in connection with the letters.

Confirmed. FACT.

//

10 dragonath  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 12:39:32pm

Didn’t this guy have screwiness on his twitter feed as well? Anyway, I don’t remember too many wingers complaining when Zimmerman posted bail.

11 simoom  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 12:41:03pm

Sen. Grassley joins other congressional Glenn Beck enablers in using government resources to humor Beck’s conspiracy theories:

thelead.blogs.cnn.com

The ranking Republican on the Senate Judiciary committee, Sen. Charles Grassley of Iowa, sent letters Monday night to Department of Homeland Security Sec. Janet Napolitano, and FBI Dir. Robert Mueller about the Boston terrorist attacks and the subsequent investigation.

Some of Grassley’s questions are based on reports in conservative media such as Townhall.com and The Blaze that the DHS and other officials state are just false - these are the ones that seem to conflate two different Saudi nationals, according to government officials.

“He was not on a watch list. What happened is this student was in, really when you back it out – he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. He was never a subject. He was never even really a person of interest,” Sec. Napolitano said at Tuesday’s Senate Judiciary Committee hearing. “Because he was being interviewed he was - at that point put - on a watch list, and when it was quickly determined he had nothing to do with the bombing the watch listing status was removed.”

Alharbi is not “out of status,” authorities say, he is in the country legally.

In addition to Alharbi, there is a second Saudi national from the Boston area who was in government custody for visa violations, and is in the middle of removal proceedings. Some of the reporting regarding this matter has conflated the two individuals, Department of Homeland Security officials say.

Also, from the Senate immigration hearing today:

huffingtonpost.com

WASHINGTON — A Saudi national briefly reported last week to be a person of interest in the Boston bombings was quickly cleared as an innocent bystander, but that didn’t stop Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) on Tuesday from questioning whether the man was on a terrorist watch list.

“Before the brothers became the focus of the investigation, authorities questioned a Saudi student who reportedly was on a terrorist watch list,” Grassley said to Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano at a Senate Judiciary hearing on immigration. “I sent a letter to you this morning asking for answers to the questions about the bombers and how they interacted with your agency. I request that you would promptly respond given the impact this could have on the immigration debate.”

“With regard to the Saudi student, was he on a watch list and if so, how did he obtain a student visa?” he continued.

Napolitano said the man wasn’t on a watch list before coming to the United States and isn’t now, although he was very briefly added last week while he was being questioned.

“He was not on a watch list,” she said of his entrance to the country. “What happened is this student was … in the wrong place at the wrong time. He was never a subject, he was never even really a person of interest.”

Conservative commentators and websites have insisted that the man may have had something to do with the bombings — regardless of law enforcement saying he was simply an innocent bystander — and have also reported that he is being be deported. Commentator Glenn Beck said on Monday that the Saudi man was set to be deported for “terrorist activities.” The website Townhall.com ran a story on Monday with the headline “Saudi National Questioned in Boston Attack was on Terror Watch List,” but it appears to have been removed from the site.

This all amounts to continued, pervasive harassment of one of the victims injured in the bombing, and it’s generating little outrage because of widespread anti-Muslim bigotry.

12 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 12:41:23pm

Several days ago, when the pressure cookers hit the news, an NPR newsperson referred to them as ‘you know, something you might cook rice in.’ Thus were the two stories entwined in my brain. If I figure out which newsperson it was, she’s getting a nasty email.

Nobody cooks rice in a pressure cooker anyway, do they?

13 erik_t  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 12:42:10pm

re: #12 wrenchwench

Nobody cooks rice in a pressure cooker anyway, do they?

I might cook brown or wild rice in a pressure cooker. Damned stuff takes forever.

14 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 12:42:59pm

In order to be dangerous when dispersed into the air, a poison like ricin has to be milled very finely, to a very specific size. It takes lab equipment. You couldn’t do it with a blender.

15 engineer cat  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 12:43:35pm

and of course there’s the close association of mensa members with violins on tv

16 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 12:43:35pm

re: #13 erik_t

I might cook brown or wild rice in a pressure cooker. Damned stuff takes forever.

Might, or have done so?

We need definitive answers!

17 Political Atheist  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 12:44:36pm

re: #12 wrenchwench

Also used for canning BTW. Best way to sterilize the cans or jars. I used to fish foe salmon up north and Grandma would can it up. Great stuff.

18 erik_t  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 12:45:11pm

re: #16 wrenchwench

CONFESSION TIME: I have never actually seen a pressure cooker. Reading recipes growing up, I half-thought they were a myth.

19 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 12:45:55pm

MENSA backwards is ASNEM- American Saudi Naughty Emigrant Muslims!

20 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 12:47:05pm
21 RadicalModerate  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 12:47:51pm

re: #13 erik_t

I might cook brown or wild rice in a pressure cooker. Damned stuff takes forever.

Rice, no, but I have been known to cook a pot roast or two in one, if I don’t have the time to do a slow roasting.

22 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 12:48:22pm

re: #17 Political Atheist

Also used for canning BTW. Best way to sterilize the cans or jars. I used to fish foe salmon up north and Grandma would can it up. Great stuff.

My mom never got into canning, but I do recall the baby bottles being sterilized in ours. Also, my favorite meal when I was a kid was pork chops and apples in the pressure cooker, and sour cream added to the juices afterwards for dunking crusty rolls in….I think I need a pressure cooker….

23 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 12:50:33pm

Source: Marathon Bombing Suspect Admitted That He and Brother Detonated Bombs, Killed Police Officer - Metro - the Boston Globe

Police sources told the Globe that the carjack victim has told police that Tamerlan Tsarnaev and his brother pointed guns at him and, in an apparent effort to intimidate the victim and dissaude him from trying anything foolish, Tamerlan Tsarnaev told him, “We just killed a cop. We blew up the marathon. And now we’re going to New York. Don’t [expletive] with us.”

24 Political Atheist  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 12:50:46pm

re: #22 wrenchwench

My mom never got into canning, but I do recall the baby bottles being sterilized in ours. Also, my favorite meal when I was a kid was pork chops and apples in the pressure cooker, and sour cream added to the juices afterwards for dunking crusty rolls in….I think I need a pressure cooker….

I think I need to order lunch now. ;-)>

25 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 12:50:54pm

OMG

26 brennant  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 12:51:09pm

re: #22 wrenchwench

….I think I need a pressure cooker….

I would like to formally welcome you to the terrorist watch list. /

27 celticdragon  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 12:51:17pm

re: #20 NJDhockeyfan

I don’t think the police really wanted to let this go to trial…

They were mocked for days afterwards, and rightly so.

28 celticdragon  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 12:54:16pm

re: #21 RadicalModerate

Rice, no, but I have been known to cook a pot roast or two in one, if I don’t have the time to do a slow roasting.

My grandmother on my dad’s side would can fresh salmon that the guys would catch daily up in Crescent City, California. Delicious! I remember seeing the big pressure cooker and all the canning equipment and it fascinated me.

29 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 12:54:35pm

re: #21 RadicalModerate

Rice, no, but I have been known to cook a pot roast or two in one, if I don’t have the time to do a slow roasting.

That’s why they turn up on Iron Chef a lot — quick cooking of meat or something else that otherwise would take hours.

30 RadicalModerate  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 12:55:27pm

re: #20 NJDhockeyfan

#BREAKING: Deal reached with women mistakenly shot at in Dorner manhunt 4.nbcla.com

Replacement cost for the truck, full cost of medical treatment required by both as a result of being shot, and significant punitive damages at the bare minimum had better be part of this settlement. And if there were true justice, these trigger-happy cops would be looking at criminal charges themselves or at the very least would not be ever be wearing a badge again.

31 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 12:55:49pm
32 RadicalModerate  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 12:58:27pm

re: #25 NJDhockeyfan

New info:

33 leftynyc  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 1:00:46pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

Source: Marathon Bombing Suspect Admitted That He and Brother Detonated Bombs, Killed Police Officer - Metro - the Boston Globe

Then I’d like to thank the Boston PD and the feds (again) for catching this guy before he got down here.

34 klys  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 1:02:45pm

For what it is worth, that type of crude ricin can be deadly - but it does need to be surreptitiously added to food consumed by the intended victim.

Putting it in an envelope accomplishes nothing.

35 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 1:05:55pm

re: #34 klys

For what it is worth, that type of crude ricin can be deadly - but it does need to be surreptitiously added to food consumed by the intended victim.

Putting it in an envelope accomplishes nothing.

Last incident I heard about, the perp basically poisoned himself.

36 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 1:07:28pm

My cats are indoors-only.

37 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 1:08:32pm

re: #36 wrenchwench

My cats are indoors-only.

Who did we lose?

38 klys  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 1:12:16pm

re: #35 wrenchwench

Last incident I heard about, the perp basically poisoned himself.

It’s a fantastically nasty way to die. Oral consumption of ricin (from ground up castor beans) was how Debora Green tried to kill her husband.

39 Inner Partisan  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 1:20:51pm

Deport all members of Mensa? Sounds good to me!!11!11one

Seriously, though: Almost all members of this, ahem, esteemed organisation I’ve met in RL or online have been - to put it politely - colossal, egocentric assholes.
I guess that just comes with the territory, when all you have to validate your own self-worth is a (pretty arbitrary, if you ask me) number.

40 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 1:25:42pm

re: #12 wrenchwench

Several days ago, when the pressure cookers hit the news, an NPR newsperson referred to them as ‘you know, something you might cook rice in.’ Thus were the two stories entwined in my brain. If I figure out which newsperson it was, she’s getting a nasty email.

Nobody cooks rice in a pressure cooker anyway, do they?

There are actually rice cookers, for people who cook rice on a regular basis.

41 klys  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 1:26:40pm

re: #40 FemNaziBitch

There are actually rice cookers, for people who cook rice on a regular basis.

FTFY.

Seriously, screw cooking rice without a rice cooker.

42 SpaceJesus  Tue, Apr 23, 2013 5:01:06pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

remind me to never piss off charles


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