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1 engineer cat  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 3:14:53pm

if we didn’t keep politicians employed in keeping government from functioning, we’d only end up having to support them on welfare

2 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 3:18:11pm

I almost felt sorry for that gun guy.

3 EPR-radar  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 3:23:15pm

Very good.

Right up there with the Onion masterpiece: ‘Our long national nightmare of peace and prosperity is over’ (in response to the election of GW Bush in 2000)

4 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 3:52:54pm

Finally discovered how to delete individual cookies with Safari. They moved it into the Web Inspector.

With Safari’s Preferences, you can only delete ALL the cookies for a site. But if you enable the Developer Tools (in Prefs), you can use Web Inspector -> Storage -> Cookies to view and delete individual cookies.

I had been using an app called “Cookie” (from the App Store) that has gotten increasingly buggy and slow. Now I can toss it. This makes me happy.

5 wrenchwench  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 3:54:39pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Tossing your cookie tosser? Meta, man.

6 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 3:55:52pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Thanks for the tip. I usually hit Safari Reset at the end of every internet session.

7 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 3:57:05pm

re: #5 wrenchwench

Well, when I’m testing a feature that uses cookies, it’s very helpful to be able to delete them, especially if it’s some kind of timeout — better than waiting around for the timeout to expire!

8 wrenchwench  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 3:58:52pm

Now I want some unexpired cookies.

9 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 4:02:19pm

Yes, I am tossing Cookie.

10 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 4:03:07pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Finally discovered how to delete individual cookies with Safari. They moved it into the Web Inspector.

With Safari’s Preferences, you can only delete ALL the cookies for a site. But if you enable the Developer Tools (in Prefs), you can use Web Inspector -> Storage -> Cookies to view and delete individual cookies.

I had been using an app called “Cookie” (from the App Store) that has gotten increasingly buggy and slow. Now I can toss it. This makes me happy.

I wonder if they deliberately made it harder for you to remove cookies so sites would be more easily able to track you.

11 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 4:03:42pm

[ Homer simpson]

mmmm….cookies….

[/ Homer Simpson]

12 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 4:04:23pm

re: #8 wrenchwench

Now I want some unexpired cookies.

*Hides new package of Oreos* Back off, they’re mine!!

//

13 engineer cat  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 4:04:50pm

grumble grumble “it’s easy! it should only take you an hour!” grumble grumble rodrammit bloddy hell grumble grumble

14 klys  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 4:05:12pm

re: #12 Targetpractice

*Hides new package of Oreos* Back off, they’re mine!!

//

Why do they even make non-Double Stuff Oreos anymore? Does anyone eat them?

15 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 4:05:24pm

re: #10 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t know, I think it was a design decision. You can still delete all the cookies set at any website very easily, from the Preferences menu. Deleting individual cookies is more suited for developers - makes sense for it to be there.

16 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 4:05:56pm

re: #14 klys

Why do they even make non-Double Stuff Oreos anymore? Does anyone eat them?

I will admit I prefer the regular to the double stuff. I just don’t like that much icing in my cookies.

17 klys  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 4:06:20pm

re: #16 Eclectic Cyborg

I will admit I prefer the regular to the double stuff. I just don’t like that much icing in my cookies.

You could scrape off the extra and give it to me…

18 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 4:06:21pm

The real difference, besides Australia’s lack of anything resembling the 2nd Amendment, is that they also don’t have anything resembling the kind of strong prohibition against ex post facto law that’s built into Article 1 Section 9 of the US Constitution.

19 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 4:07:27pm

re: #18 goddamnedfrank

The real difference, besides Australia’s lack of anything resembling the 2nd Amendment, is that they also don’t have anything resembling the kind of strong prohibition against ex post facto law that’s built into Article 1 Section 9 of the US Constitution.

Could it be that Australia also has a someone different cultural attitude toward guns than America does?

20 wrenchwench  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 4:08:25pm

re: #12 Targetpractice

*Hides new package of Oreos* Back off, they’re mine!!

//

I settled for an expired Clif Bar, of an expired flavor: Gary’s Panforte. It was a limited edition, and they expired in March, but it’s still the best that Clif Bar ever made.

Now, 20 years later, Erickson wanted to create GARY’s PANFORTE, embodying the flavors of a traditional Italian Panforte, which is full of fruits, nuts, spices and citrus notes, and has been a staple in Italy for hundreds of years. The bar delights taste buds with a flavorful blend of 23 ingredients, including many new to CLIF Bar but typical in Italian Panforte, including crunchy hazelnuts and pistachios, sweet figs and pears, citrus peel and hints of cinnamon, ginger and coriander.

21 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 4:09:51pm

::: hides Pepperidge Farm Milano cookies from Targetpractice, klys, and wrench- wench :::

22 engineer cat  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 4:10:09pm

traditional Italian Panforte

these are really great, i wish we could get them here, but the only problem is that every single location in italy makes the only true and original version of it

23 Renaissance_Man  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 4:11:37pm

I’ve been here 11 years and I have never wanted to go home as strongly as I do after watching those.

“What the fuck are you talking about?” Classic Aussie reaction. And that farmer candidly admitting to feeling a duty to society. I’d almost forgotten.

24 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 4:11:59pm

re: #20 wrenchwench

I settled for an expired Clif Bar, of an expired flavor: Gary’s Panforte. It was a limited edition, and they expired in March, but it’s still the best that Clif Bar ever made.

Expiration dates for most things are a best guess most of the time. So long as its been packaged properly, sealed tight, and stored in a favorable environment, it can lasts weeks to months past the date stamped on it.

25 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 4:12:01pm

re: #18 goddamnedfrank

The real difference, besides Australia’s lack of anything resembling the 2nd Amendment, is that they also don’t have anything resembling the kind of strong prohibition against ex post facto law that’s built into Article 1 Section 9 of the US Constitution.

To illustrate how deep the prohibition against ex post facto criminal law goes in the US, even during Prohibition under the 18th Amendment it was legal (had to be legal) to continue private possession of alcohol purchased and owned prior to the law going into effect. And that situation was pretty much the exact opposite of the gun debate, inasmuch as an amendment specifically banned the manufacture, sale and transportation of a product.

26 blueraven  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 4:18:51pm

re: #22 engineer cat

traditional Italian Panforte

these are really great, i wish we could get them here, but the only problem is that every single location in italy makes the only true and original version of it

Make it your own

lovefood.com

Image: gino-de-acampo-panforte-534x356.jpg

Thanks y’all, now I really need to make this and I will most likely have to eat it all! //

27 engineer cat  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 4:21:46pm

re: #26 blueraven

Make it your own

lovefood.com

Image: gino-de-acampo-panforte-534x356.jpg

Thanks y’all, now I really need to make this and I will most likely have to eat it all! //

i bought some panforte at lake como - it wasn’t chocolate like the one in your picture - it was so packed with nuts and fruit that i kept it in my pocket for three days, nibbling on it for dessert after every meal and for the odd snack

28 klys  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 4:22:15pm

re: #26 blueraven

Make it your own

lovefood.com

Image: gino-de-acampo-panforte-534x356.jpg

Thanks y’all, now I really need to make this and I will most likely have to eat it all! //

It’s Friday afternoon on LGF. And there are no manhunts today. We’re in for an afternoon of productive discussions about food!

29 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 4:25:18pm

re: #19 Eclectic Cyborg

Could it be that Australia also has a someone different cultural attitude toward guns than America does?

Of course, they didn’t. They didn’t fight a war to win independence from the British crown, weren’t reinvaded in anything resembling the war of 1812, never fought a Civil War, never faced anything resembling a real rebellion from any of their aborigines (they just slaughtered them), and never fought a war on their own territory with a foreign state (Mexico.)

However the legal structural differences are what really matters, the 2nd Amendment and other various constitutional protections limiting legislative and executive power are fundamental elements of the documents we ostensibly live and demand our government officials swear by. We can change them, there’s a procedure for that, but we can’t pretend they don’t exist or hold sway.

30 blueraven  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 4:25:57pm

re: #27 engineer cat

i bought some panforte at lake como - it wasn’t chocolate like the one in your picture - it was so packed with nuts and fruit that i kept it in my pocket for three days, nibbling on it for dessert after every meal and for the odd snack

I do that with homemade trail mix…like it is really healthy or something just because it has dried fruit and nuts in it. Who I am kidding, it’s all about the chocolate!

31 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 4:32:24pm

Here is the menu for this Friday night.

Homemade challah
Baked gefilte fish
Broiled rainbow trout
Romaine/avocado/arugula salad with pecans and raspberry vinaigrette
Redskin Potato salad
Chicken noodle soup

Dessert: Blueberry pie!

Wine: Baron Herzog White Zinfandel

32 GeneJockey  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 4:34:24pm

re: #31 Vicious Babushka

You chad me at challah.

33 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 4:34:32pm

re: #31 Vicious Babushka

Have a good Shabbos. That menu sounds great.

34 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 4:35:52pm

I also made a burnt sugar noodle kugle for Shabbos lunch, and there’s cold chicken and salad and MOAR PIE!

35 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 4:43:26pm

Good night!

36 klys  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 4:43:53pm

re: #35 Vicious Babushka

Good night!

G’night!

37 StephenMeansMe  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 4:52:59pm

Playing semi-devil’s advocate here, but…

Shootings and mass shootings would certainly decrease with an Aussie-style gun ban. What about violence and violent crime more generally? I think it’s sort of an open question whether stricter gun control (that is, stricter than background checks or whatever) should precede or follow a general decrease in violence below a certain threshold.

And I don’t really like guns.

38 CarleeCork  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 4:54:06pm

re: #31 Vicious Babushka

Can I come live with you?

39 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 4:58:29pm

re: #37 StephenMeansMe

Playing semi-devil’s advocate here, but…

Shootings and mass shootings would certainly decrease with an Aussie-style gun ban. What about violence and violent crime more generally? I think it’s sort of an open question whether stricter gun control (that is, stricter than background checks or whatever) should precede or follow a general decrease in violence below a certain threshold.

And I don’t really like guns.

Here’s some comparative stats. It’s hard to argue against the US policy resulting in a lot more dead people. More than 80% of that though is handguns, which have always been the vast, vast majority of the problem at every level of gun crime. The best medium term answer for the US would be to try and move handguns into the NFA category that governs machineguns, SBRs and SBSs - require a $200 tax stamp and several months of ATF background check for every single transfer.

40 engineer cat  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 4:58:30pm

shabbos

i always like to hear the good old ashkenazi hebrew forms. ‘shabbat’ sounds too up-to-date for an alte pischkudnik like me

41 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 4:59:07pm

re: #39 goddamnedfrank

Edited for link.

42 Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 4:59:44pm

re: #37 StephenMeansMe

I’m not sure what you’re really asking. Crime and violence in the US has been decreasing for about twenty years now. If you do think that gun restrictions should be when violence has sunk below a threshold, then you’re saying we should be enacting some new restrictions, right?

43 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 5:04:33pm

re: #40 engineer cat

I usually spell it shabbat but I know VB has used shabbos in the past.

44 engineer cat  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 5:12:01pm

re: #43 PhillyPretzel

I usually spell it shabbat but I know VB has used shabbos in the past.

‘shabbat’ is the sephardic form, and it is considered more correct and up to date since when israel was founded they decided to use sephardic hebrew instead of ashkenazi

at least that’s what i heard but i haven’t checked it out on the google…

45 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 5:22:20pm

I have now tossed Cookie. Cookie had a daemon. I had to terminate it first.

46 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 5:22:46pm

re: #29 goddamnedfrank

Of course, they didn’t. They didn’t fight a war to win independence from the British crown, weren’t reinvaded in anything resembling the war of 1812, never fought a Civil War, never faced anything resembling a real rebellion from any of their aborigines (they just slaughtered them), and never fought a war on their own territory with a foreign state (Mexico.)

However the legal structural differences are what really matters, the 2nd Amendment and other various constitutional protections limiting legislative and executive power are fundamental elements of the documents we ostensibly live and demand our government officials swear by. We can change them, there’s a procedure for that, but we can’t pretend they don’t exist or hold sway.

Quoted for Truth.

47 EPR-radar  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 5:24:09pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

I have now tossed Cookie. Cookie had a daemon. I had to terminate it first.

How did you know Cookie had a daemon? Did Cookie’s head turn around 360 degrees, or was it the projectile puking?

48 jaunte  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 5:24:11pm
49 engineer cat  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 5:25:17pm

Cookie had a daemon

meme-worthy

50 lawhawk  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 5:25:20pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

I have now tossed Cookie. Cookie had a daemon. I had to terminate it first.

Sounds dirty.

51 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 5:26:06pm

The daemon’s name was “cookied.”

52 GeneJockey  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 5:26:27pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

I have now tossed Cookie. Cookie had a daemon. I had to terminate it first.

Must have been Devil’s Food.

53 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 5:27:16pm

I discovered the daemon by going into Activity Monitor and searching for “cookie.”

54 engineer cat  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 5:28:06pm

re: #51 Charles Johnson

The daemon’s name was “cookied.”

reminds me too much of ex-girlfriends

55 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 5:31:33pm

Checked out Django Unchained last night - great movie. I don’t think it was one of Tarantino’s best, but there were plenty of off the wall moments and some surprising emotional resonance. Definitely not a waste of time, but not on the same level as his best films.

56 wrenchwench  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 5:31:34pm

re: #52 GeneJockey

Must have been Devil’s Food.

That one takes the cake.

57 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 5:32:47pm

And wouldn’t you know it … I check for updates, and there’s a new version of … COOKIE.

IT BEGINS.

58 Kragar  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 5:36:56pm

How Matt Drudge Serves As Alex Jones’ Web Traffic Pipeline

Matt Drudge has long been conspiracy theorist Alex Jones’ biggest ally. According to a Media Matters review, the heavily-trafficked Drudge Report has promoted at least 50 separate articles at Jones’ Infowars website in 2013, and has linked to at least 244 different articles on the site in the past two years.

Drudge announced this week that he had privately told friends that 2013 would be the “year of Alex Jones.” Considering Drudge’s penchant for promoting Jones and his Infowars website, those comments are more of a promise than a prediction.

Alex Jones is a radio host famous for pushing absurd conspiracy theories about a host of issues, including that the U.S. government perpetrated or was otherwise involved in the 9-11 attacks, the Sandy Hook elementary school massacre, the Oklahoma City bombing, the Space Shuttle Colombia disaster, and the Aurora movie theater shooting.

Jones has lately made headlines for his most recent conspiracy that the Boston Marathon bombings were a “false flag” attack staged by the government. Drudge has provided several links to Jones’ site in the days since Jones started floating Boston conspiracies, including an article highlighting the father of the bombing suspects claiming his sons had been set up.

The links to Jones’ site in the wake of the Boston bombings are not surprising; he has sent a steady stream of traffic there in 2013.

59 lawhawk  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 5:41:15pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

I think the biggest problem with the movie is the pacing. It could have been tighter paced and better editing could have made a compelling movie even more so. I figure 15-20 minutes in the middle third could have been condensed without losing any of the story.

60 klys  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 5:43:44pm

I just finished transferring all the spices into the new spice rack (part of my crusade to organize the kitchen better which has been put off for 2+ years but I am finally getting around to it) and it looks fabulous.

Now I have to clean out the rest of that cabinet. But hey. PROGRESS.

61 Kragar  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 5:45:54pm

South Carolina House Passes Insidious New Form Of Obamacare Nullification

“26 U.S.C. Section 5000A” refers to the so-called individual mandate that was the primary subject of a losing attempt to convince the Supreme Court to repeal Obamacare last year. That provision works by requiring people who are not insured to pay slightly more income taxes in order to give them an incentive to buy insurance. Such an incentive is necessary because the Affordable Care Act also prohibits insurers from denying coverage to people with preexisting conditions. So if people did not have a financial incentive to buy insurance before they get sick, they would wait until they got sick to buy insurance, and would eventually drain all the money out of an insurance plan that they paid virtually nothing into.

The South Carolina bill would erase this incentive by effectively having the state refund taxpayers hit with additional taxes because they did not purchase insurance. What the federal government takes, the state of South Carolina would give back. As a result, smart South Carolina residents would soon figure out that they can drop their insurance plans, save the cost of paying premiums, and then pick those plans back up the minute they are about to be hit with an expensive medical bill. Beginning in the 1990s, seven different states passed laws allowing health care consumers to behave this way, and it ended in disaster every single time. Some consumers saw their premiums rise over 350 percent. Others lost access to individual insurance plans entirely.

Beyond the fact that this bill could literally collapse the individual health insurance market in South Carolina, it is also a tribute to fiscal irresponsibility. By giving a tax deduction to South Carolinians who do not carry insurance, the state is essentially paying people to free ride. That’s money, by the way, that will not go to hiring teachers or putting cops on the streets or building schools because it is being diverted to this crusade against Obamacare.

62 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 5:49:48pm
64 EPR-radar  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 5:51:35pm

re: #61 Kragar

Showing my age, but I remember when one of the GOP’s claims was that they were ‘the adults in the room’.

Not any more.

65 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 5:52:36pm

Ban slams Falk for tying Boston attack to US policy

The United States mission to the United Nations on Tuesday rejected Falk’s comments on the Boston marathon bombings as “provocative and offensive.”

“The United States has previously called for Mr. Falk’s resignation for his numerous outrageous statements, and these comments underscore once more the absurdity of his service as a UN special rapporteur,” Erin Pelton, spokeswoman for US mission to the United Nations, said in a statement.

66 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 5:53:54pm

re: #65 Killgore Trout

Ban slams Falk for tying Boston attack to US policy

I think I just saw a pig fly!!

67 Iwouldprefernotto  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 5:54:14pm

From Downstairs. On the topic of abortion and discussion.

We can have reasonable discussion about abortion when you stop calling me a baby killer for supporting a woman’s right to choose.

/rant

68 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 5:54:54pm

re: #66 sattv4u2

I think I just saw a pig fly!!

Heh.

69 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 5:56:09pm

“Chickens coming home to roost”!
/

70 Political Atheist  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 5:56:19pm

re: #65 Killgore Trout

Good catch KT.

71 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 5:56:38pm

re: #65 Killgore Trout

Amazing what can happen if you don’t treat the UN as an enemy.

72 kirkspencer  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:00:57pm

re: #64 EPR-radar

Showing my age, but I remember when one of the GOP’s claims was that they were ‘the adults in the room’.

Not any more.

They are. They’re just into senescence.

73 Varek Raith  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:03:27pm
Alex Jones Has His Day In Congress: House Republicans Hold Conspiracy Theory Hearing
Oversight Committee Investigates InfoWars Theory About Government Ammunition Stockpile

But, hey, some guy at the UN is more important!
;)

74 lawhawk  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:04:22pm

Hmmm… just got back from vacation and already contemplating the next one. Methinks Crater Lake, Redwoods, and Portland will be on the agenda.

75 lawhawk  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:05:04pm

Then again, I might be making a return trip to Grand Canyon before that… ooooh, choices choices…

76 HoosierHoops  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:07:49pm

re: #74 lawhawk

Hmmm… just got back from vacation and already contemplating the next one. Methinks Crater Lake, Redwoods, and Portland will be on the agenda.

*cough* Napa Valley…

77 lawhawk  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:09:19pm

re: #76 HoosierHoops

That was the honeymoon and 1st anniversary. Stopped in Lodi last week.

Napa makes sense if I’m heading back to SF, but not sure when.

78 prairiefire  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:15:59pm

re: #74 lawhawk

Hmmm… just got back from vacation and already contemplating the next one. Methinks Crater Lake, Redwoods, and Portland will be on the agenda.

Cayman Islands, go snorkeling.

79 HoosierHoops  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:19:44pm

re: #77 lawhawk

That was the honeymoon and 1st anniversary. Stopped in Lodi last week.

Napa makes sense if I’m heading back to SF, but not sure when.

Awesome! I grew up in Yountville. I love the Valley.

80 Iwouldprefernotto  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:20:19pm

re: #78 prairiefire

Cayman Islands, go snorkeling.

I can’t decide if I want to spend my next vacation searching for Bigfoot, The Loch Ness Monster, or Moderate Republicans. Perhaps a week at a unicorn ranch.

81 CuriousLurker  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:21:20pm

re: #60 klys

I just finished transferring all the spices into the new spice rack (part of my crusade to organize the kitchen better which has been put off for 2+ years but I am finally getting around to it) and it looks fabulous.

Now I have to clean out the rest of that cabinet. But hey. PROGRESS.

Crusade, did you just say CRUSADE??

*reaches for scimitar…*

Oh, spices. Never mind. //

82 Varek Raith  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:24:45pm

Flash why u always crash?!

83 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:27:12pm

re: #81 CuriousLurker

Crusade, did you just say CRUSADE??

*reaches for scimitar…*

Oh, spices. Never mind. //

84 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:30:33pm

The Mountain Three Wolf Moon Short Sleeve Tee

This item has wolves on it which makes it intrinsically sweet and worth 5 stars by itself, but once I tried it on, that’s when the magic happened.

85 klys  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:31:50pm

re: #81 CuriousLurker

Crusade, did you just say CRUSADE??

*reaches for scimitar…*

Oh, spices. Never mind. //

BEHOLD! My beautiful new spice racks with the spice names handwritten on the lids. I had to go to the bookstore to find silver permanent markers today, because apparently I didn’t have anything in the house that would work despite collecting rainbow pen sets for years.

Yes, they came with labels, but not for all the spices I needed and my OCD wouldn’t allow mismatches.

86 klys  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:33:00pm

re: #85 klys

As an added bonus, below the cabinet you can see a prime example of why “call electricians for home rewiring estimates” is high on next week’s to do list.

87 CuriousLurker  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:33:02pm

re: #85 klys

Nice!

88 efuseakay  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:35:23pm

Single-shot muzzle loaders for everyone. That’s what the founders had intended. Seriously.

89 klys  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:36:45pm

re: #85 klys

For the (non-existent) curious, the spice rack can be found here and is quite good quality. I like that the stainless steel encloses the glass jars, which keeps the spices out of the light even if they weren’t in the cabinet. It worked out that they were exactly the right height for the cabinet, but they come with wall mount slots (and hardware) as well. Stable enough that I don’t worry about them falling over (except, perhaps during an earthquake, at which point I expect everything to come out of those cabinets because they don’t latch worth a damn).

90 CuriousLurker  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:38:03pm

re: #84 Charles Johnson

The Mountain Three Wolf Moon Short Sleeve Tee

LOL! Did you check out the reviews for the unicorn t-shirt? Every tree-hugging liberal should have one. //

I should probably preface this review by stating the obvious: This shirt is clearly meant for people who aren’t serious about our one-horned magic friends. I mean, the shirt’s fabric construction and lavender color base are terrific, and as a casual-Friday garment, hey, it’s better than a stupid Polo shirt. But the devil, as they say, is in the details, so caveat emptor!

First, the grass pictured is quite clearly Italian Ryegrass, and as everyone knows, unicorns prefer to frolic in Dog’s Tooth Grass. Second…

91 freetoken  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:38:50pm

re: #81 CuriousLurker

Crusade, did you just say CRUSADE??

*reaches for scimitar…*

Oh, spices.

Spices and Crusades - there’s a link:

The importance of the Crusades (at least the first four) in European history cannot be understated. The Crusades helped to re-link Western Europe to the Silk and Spice roads. After the fall of the Western Roman Empire that part of the world remained largely isolated and outside of various trade routes (too unstable). Crusaders returning home often brought with them “exotic” eastern goods and Western Europeans were willing to trade for them. The desire for silks and spices encouraged the Western Europeans to try and find ways to cut out the middlemen and trade directly with China and India, […]

92 EPR-radar  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:39:24pm

re: #88 efuseakay

Single-shot muzzle loaders for everyone. That’s what the founders had intended. Seriously.

This line of argument doesn’t work so well. Is the first amendment limited only to printing presses as they were at the time of the founding?

93 lawhawk  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:40:30pm

re: #78 prairiefire

Not a beach person. The mrs isn’t much into swimming/snorkeling either. Though, the USVI could do the trick (national park).

94 CuriousLurker  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:41:10pm

re: #91 freetoken

Spices and Crusades - there’s a link:

Well, in that case… *glares menacingly at klys*

95 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:41:12pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

I don’t know, I think it was a design decision. You can still delete all the cookies set at any website very easily, from the Preferences menu. Deleting individual cookies is more suited for developers - makes sense for it to be there.

Delete cookies?!

96 klys  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:42:00pm

re: #93 lawhawk

Not a beach person. The mrs isn’t much into swimming/snorkeling either. Though, the USVI could do the trick (national park).

Have you been to Dry Tortugas National Park?

The husband and I are slowly working our way through the list and we did that one on the unofficial honeymoon (e.g., the only one we’ve gotten to do so far). Went snorkelling, toured the fort, and I got stung by a jellyfish! Fortunately they let me go after I signed liability forms because the seaplane had to take off.

97 engineer cat  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:42:20pm

re: #91 freetoken

Spices and Crusades - there’s a link:

a giant case of the law of unintended consequences

this should piss off islamophobes since if the pope had never called for the first crusade, the scary islams would have remained isolated longer than they did

98 klys  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:42:50pm

re: #94 CuriousLurker

Well, in that case… *glares menacingly at klys*

But I’m only crusading to make my kitchen cleaner! Really! And maybe get rid of the plates from the ex-girlfriend.

99 HoosierHoops  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:43:21pm

Good evening lizards.. I’m multitasking on this fine Friday night.
Running around the net..
Switching channels between the NFL draft, The Kicks-Celtics game, The NASCAR race and the Neanderthal Code on NatGeo..
Oh and eating dinner on the side..
Hope today finds everyone well..Especially PT Barnum.

100 klys  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:43:57pm

re: #99 HoosierHoops

Good evening lizards.. I’m multitasking on this fine Friday night.
Running around the net..
Switching channels between the NFL draft, The Kicks-Celtics game, The NASCAR race and the Neanderthal Code on NatGeo..
Oh and eating dinner on the side..
Hope today finds everyone well..Especially PT Barnum.

Clearly, what you need is 4 TVs.

101 CuriousLurker  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:44:20pm

re: #99 HoosierHoops

Good evening lizards.. I’m multitasking on this fine Friday night.
Running around the net..
Switching channels between the NFL draft, The Kicks-Celtics game, The NASCAR race and the Neanderthal Code on NatGeo..
Oh and eating dinner on the side..
Hope today finds everyone well..Especially PT Barnum.

Hiya, Hoops. Good to see you. ;)

102 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:45:23pm

re: #100 klys

Clearly, what you need is 4 TVs.

or he can pull up a seat in the control room here at work

Image: atlantateleport.jpg

103 HoosierHoops  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:45:50pm

re: #101 CuriousLurker

Hiya, Hoops. Good to see you. ;)

Hi You! Nice to see you also…

104 klys  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:45:57pm

re: #102 sattv4u2

or he can pull up a seat in the control room here at work

Image: atlantateleport.jpg

Yeah, but do you actually get to *watch* any of the TVs?

105 lawhawk  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:46:25pm

re: #96 klys

Haven’t done Dry Tortugas - time constraints kept me from doing it when we went to the Keys and Everglades (and visited the land part of Biscayne - have to check out the snorkeling/scuba for that).

106 dragonath  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:46:32pm

re: #58 Kragar

How Matt Drudge Serves As Alex Jones’ Web Traffic Pipeline

Their message doesn’t even make sense anymore. In a sane world, entertaining the guy behind “9/11 Was An Inside Job” should undercut their decade long hatred of muslims, but that’s the only consistent thing they’ve got going.

107 klys  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:48:05pm

re: #105 lawhawk

Haven’t done Dry Tortugas - time constraints kept me from doing it when we went to the Keys and Everglades (and visited the land part of Biscayne - have to check out the snorkeling/scuba for that).

It was definitely worth it.

I haven’t gotten to do the Everglades - what we would really love to do is take the teardrop cross-country - but finding the time to do a trip of that magnitude is hard.

The trip out to pick it up and bring it home was over 6,000 miles and I hit 7 national parks. In two weeks. That was maybe just a little rushed.

108 HoosierHoops  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:48:33pm

re: #102 sattv4u2

or he can pull up a seat in the control room here at work

Image: atlantateleport.jpg

Nice! That looks like our support center..But your center is more awesome.
I have picture in picture on a 73” Samsung. You like apples? How do you like those apples? *wink*
You working?

109 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:48:37pm

re: #104 klys

Yeah, but do you actually get to *watch* any of the TVs?

Every single one of them. Right now i have 4 MLB games up, the Celts/ Knicks, 4 different NFL draft channels, 2 NHL games ,, various news feeds ,,, etc

110 klys  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:49:22pm

re: #109 sattv4u2

Every single one of them. Right now i have 4 MLB games up, the Celts/ Knicks, 4 different NFL draft channels, 2 NHL games ,, various news feeds ,,, etc

So really, two channels worth watching and a whole lotta junk?

/ducks

111 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:49:22pm

re: #108 HoosierHoops

Nice! That looks like our support center..But your center is more awesome.
I have picture in picture on a 73” Samsung. You like apples? How do you like those apples? *wink*
You working?

Yup,, till midnight,, and back again in the morning 11 a.m. till midnight ,, THEN ,,, 3 WHOLE DAYS OFF !!

112 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:50:04pm

re: #110 klys

So really, two channels worth watching and a whole lotta junk?

/ducks

just like home ,,, only without the commercials ,,, and in more than just Spanish and English

113 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:52:10pm

The gun control advocates should be pleased to learn that I was wrong. I’ve found a Supreme Court decision that defends making continuing possession of a once legal product a criminal offense. I disagree with the Court’s reasoning at the time, but the precedent is undeniable.

Samuels v. McCurdy, Sheriff.

Basically, even though the 18th Amendment said nothing about preventing continued possession of alcohol purchased before it or any laws banning it went into effect, the Supremes defended a Georgia statute that made continued possession a crime.

114 Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:54:31pm

re: #113 goddamnedfrank

Wasn’t there a gold grab, too?

115 CuriousLurker  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:54:37pm

re: #113 goddamnedfrank

I wasn’t following whatever debate you were having, but have an up-ding for honesty.

116 HoosierHoops  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:56:38pm

re: #111 sattv4u2

Yup,, till midnight,, and back again in the morning 11 a.m. till midnight ,, THEN ,,, 3 WHOLE DAYS OFF !!

Great..Starting my weekend..Have a few Heinekens in the fridge.
I talked to my daughter back in Napa..She got engaged! My Girl
is getting Married and I’m giving her away!
My heart is full of joy..My little girl…
( I want grandkids!)

117 Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:56:49pm

Yeah.

Executive Order 6102, which Roosevelt passed that said everyone had to turn in their gold by X date. Legislated as The Gold Reserve Act of 1934.

Arguably different because it related to currency.

118 klys  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:57:28pm

re: #116 HoosierHoops

Congratulations!

(I continue to disappoint my parents and in-laws on that front. BUT I HAVE BEEN HONEST FROM THE GET-GO.)

119 CuriousLurker  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 6:58:42pm

re: #116 HoosierHoops

Great..Starting my weekend..Have a few Heinekens in the fridge.
I talked to my daughter back in Napa..She got engaged! My Girl
is getting Married and I’m giving her away!
My heart is full of joy..My little girl…
( I want grandkids!)

Congrats!

120 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 7:01:09pm

re: #114 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Wasn’t there a gold grab, too?

Yes, but those cases rested in the inherent Constitutional authority (plenary power) of the government to regulate money. In the thinking of the time that was why a whole constitutional amendment was needed to enact alcohol prohibition, because that power was outside the scope. A ban prior to the 18th probably would’ve been ruled a violation of the 9th Amendment, rights not specifically enumerated still being held by the people.

Nowadays we just regulate everything under crazy broad interpretations of interstate commerce.

121 EPR-radar  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 7:03:55pm

re: #113 goddamnedfrank

Thanks for the link. It was amusing how the court in this case brushed aside the issue of taking property without compensation with ‘alcohol is of the debbil’.

In legalese, the argument ended up being a lot longer, but that is all the reasoning I could see there. The same kind of thinking no doubt permeates the case law relating to the war on drugs.

In contrast, the reasoning in the opinion on ex post facto seemed respectable to me.

122 HoosierHoops  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 7:06:52pm

re: #119 CuriousLurker

Congrats!

I’m so proud of Nikki. She went to UC Davis and started a career in Administration.. Went through the tough times ( Dad sent her money so she could continue her journey ) She is a runner and golfer and beautiful. ( Athletics is in our genes ) Never had a kid.
She called and said she found the guy.. He is the guy.
I’m beaming with pride.. She done it right

123 Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 7:06:53pm

re: #120 goddamnedfrank

Yes, but those cases rested in the inherent Constitutional authority (plenary power) of the government to regulate money.

Well, they might not be able to make the ownership of them illegal, though they could probably make the conditions of ownership change so much that it amounted to the same thing.

They could also make the use of the gun illegal, even if the ownership wasn’t, in one of those delightful “Legal but nonsensical so I bet it happens at some point” things you get in the law.

124 EPR-radar  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 7:09:00pm

re: #123 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Well, they might not be able to make the ownership of them illegal, though they could probably make the conditions of ownership change so much that it amounted to the same thing.

They could also make the use of the gun illegal, even if the ownership wasn’t, in one of those delightful “Legal but nonsensical so I bet it happens at some point” things you get in the law.

That last possibility has probably been ruled out. “keep and bear arms” in the second would seem to explicitly protect both ownership and use.

125 thedopefishlives  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 7:09:37pm

Evening again, Lizardim.

126 CuriousLurker  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 7:10:52pm

re: #122 HoosierHoops

I’m so proud of Nikki. She went to UC Davis and started a career in Administration.. Went through the tough times ( Dad sent her money so she could continue her journey ) She is a runner and golfer and beautiful. ( Athletics is in our genes ) Never had a kid.
She called and said she found the guy.. He is the guy.
I’m beaming with pride.. She done it right

And you should be proud! Give her a hug & a big thumbs-up for me.

127 CuriousLurker  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 7:11:58pm

re: #126 CuriousLurker

And you should be proud! Give her a hug & a big thumbs-up for me.

And on that happy note, I’m off to go read & watch videos.

G’nite, scaly ones. ;)

128 Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 7:12:51pm

re: #124 EPR-radar

That last possibility has probably been ruled out. “keep and bear arms” in the second would seem to explicitly protect both ownership and use.

As far as I know, legislation about actually using a weapon has been pretty much universally upheld.

129 klys  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 7:16:57pm

re: #122 HoosierHoops

I’m so proud of Nikki. She went to UC Davis and started a career in Administration.. Went through the tough times ( Dad sent her money so she continue her journey ) She is a runner and golfer and beautiful. ( Athletics in our genes ) Never had a kid.
She called and said she found the guy.. He is the guy.
I’m beaming with pride.. She done it right

She’ll still be daddy’s girl. :)

Dancing with my daddy.

130 EPR-radar  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 7:21:26pm

re: #128 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

As far as I know, legislation about actually using a weapon has been pretty much universally upheld.

?! We may have some confusion here. In #123, you seem to say that use of guns could be broadly banned, even if ownership remained legal. “bear arms” in the 2nd amendment would seem to rule that kind of legal move out.

131 Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 7:33:02pm

re: #130 EPR-radar

?! We may have some confusion here. In #123, you seem to say that use of guns could be broadly banned, even if ownership remained legal. “bear arms” in the 2nd amendment would seem to rule that kind of legal move out.

Bearing them isn’t using them, as far as I know, legally. And there’s tons of legislation about when you’re allowed to fire— viz the difference between states with Castle Doctrine (and it’s even stupider cousin, Stand Your Ground) and states without it.

I dunno. I’m not a lawyer. It’s not going to happen that there will be some torturous route to gun confiscation, anyway.

132 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 7:36:04pm

re: #124 EPR-radar

That last possibility has probably been ruled out. “keep and bear arms” in the second would seem to explicitly protect both ownership and use.

At least in as much as such use doesn’t blatantly conflict with public safety, for hunting, plinking on large swaths of private property and official firing ranges.

re: #128 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

As far as I know, legislation about actually using a weapon has been pretty much universally upheld.

Heller specifies self-defense as a protected use however:

3. The handgun ban and the trigger-lock requirement (as applied to self-defense) violate the Second Amendment . The District’s total ban on handgun possession in the home amounts to a prohibition on an entire class of “arms” that Americans overwhelmingly choose for the lawful purpose of self-defense.

I know it’s a 5 to 4 decision by the usual suspects, but it is current binding precedent and none of that majority has left the court.

133 HoosierHoops  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 7:36:13pm

re: #131 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Bearing them isn’t using them, as far as I know, legally. And there’s tons of legislation about when you’re allowed to fire— viz the difference between states with Castle Doctrine (and it’s even stupider cousin, Stand Your Ground) and states without it.

I dunno. I’m not a lawyer. It’s not going to happen that there will be some torturous route to gun confiscation, anyway.

Oklahoma has an open carry law.. I can strap on my 9mm and walk the streets and nobody can do a damn thing about it..
How crazy is that Obdi?

134 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 7:38:22pm

Ooo… “The Professional” is on. Time to watch Gary Oldman chew scenery.

Not to mention very good performances by Jean Reno and Natalie Portman.

135 Kaessa  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 7:40:28pm

re: #133 HoosierHoops

Oklahoma has an open carry law.. I can strap on my 9mm and walk the streets and nobody can do a damn thing about it..
How crazy is that Obdi?

We have an open carry law here in Colorado as well. It still feels weird to just take my gun out of the house at all, let alone strap it on my hip and go shopping.

136 Kragar  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 7:42:42pm
137 Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 7:42:57pm

re: #132 goddamnedfrank

It’s only lawful to the extent self-defense is lawful, though. Really, this is a not-gonna-happen theoretical aside and I don’t care enough about it. It’s the definition of moot. I’m going to go to bed.

138 HoosierHoops  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 7:44:19pm

re: #135 Kaessa

We have an open carry law here in Colorado as well. It still feels weird to just take my gun out of the house at all, let alone strap it on my hip and go shopping.

It’s weird for sure..I wonder why you can’t walk into a bank with a gun here?
Crazy law.
/

139 Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 7:44:31pm

re: #133 HoosierHoops

Oklahoma has an open carry law.. I can strap on my 9mm and walk the streets and nobody can do a damn thing about it..
How crazy is that Obdi?

Even in cities where something can be done about it, there are scary-ass types, too. In San Francisco, there was a retired fed of some variety who kept his gun on him while he got liquored up. What an asshole he was. He eventually got it taken away from him but it took awhile.

I like reminding the wanna-be cowboys that in the Wild West you generally had to check your guns in with the Marshall.

140 engineer cat  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 7:51:55pm

re: #136 Kragar

Alex Jones opens dating site for ‘Freedom Lovers’

i keep on getting the christian mingle mixed up with the muskrat ramble

141 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 7:54:38pm

re: #65 Killgore Trout

Ban slams Falk for tying Boston attack to US policy

Not an incredible surprise, really. Ban Ki-moon is from South Korea and the threat posed by North Korea has given him a better understanding of reality than some within the UN.

142 PT Barnum  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 7:54:56pm

re: #136 Kragar

Alex Jones opens dating site for ‘Freedom Lovers’

10,000 people with 6 genes among them.

143 EPR-radar  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 7:56:26pm

re: #142 PT Barnum

10,000 people with 6 genes among them.

Or sharing 6 neurons among the group…

144 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 7:57:04pm
145 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 7:57:39pm

re: #131 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Bearing them isn’t using them, as far as I know, legally. And there’s tons of legislation about when you’re allowed to fire— viz the difference between states with Castle Doctrine (and it’s even stupider cousin, Stand Your Ground) and states without it.

I dunno. I’m not a lawyer. It’s not going to happen that there will be some torturous route to gun confiscation, anyway.

The Castle Doctrine isn’t stupid. It is absurd for one to have to retreat in one’s own home.

146 PT Barnum  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 7:59:01pm

re: #116 HoosierHoops

Congrats! Grandbabies are a lot of fun. For one thing they aren’t old enough to know when Grandpa is telling a whopper. My youngest is starting to get wise. Although he did fall for it when I told him I was putting a parking meter on the computer and that he was going to have to start putting in money to be able to use the computer.

147 PT Barnum  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 7:59:32pm

re: #143 EPR-radar

Or sharing 6 neurons among the group…

Not enought neurons to make a ganglia.

148 klys  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 8:00:00pm

I am reminded, once again, that the CA real estate market is fucking insane.

That is all.

149 engineer cat  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 8:01:01pm

re: #148 klys

I am reminded, once again, that the CA real estate market is fucking insane.

That is all.

we all move here in order to be insane

150 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 8:01:12pm

re: #139 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Even in cities where something can be done about it, there are scary-ass types, too. In San Francisco, there was a retired fed of some variety who kept his gun on him while he got liquored up. What an asshole he was. He eventually got it taken away from him but it took awhile.

There was a cop down here in Riverside who just executed some random dude in a bar because the dude was sass mouthing him during a game of darts.

An altercation allegedly broke out after the police officer told one of the friends ‘I’m better at darts than you are’, Chris Hull, 39, told Patch.com.

‘My buddy says, “Aw, you suck at darts”. (The man) says, “That’s why I’m a cop, I can do whatever I want to do”.’

Hull said his friend asked; ‘Really, you can do anything?’

The police officer then pulled out his gun, Hull claimed and after the group repeatedly asked him to put it away he ‘pops three rounds into my friend Sam’.

151 PT Barnum  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 8:02:20pm

Spent the afternoon listening to old B-52s songs. The one thing that stood out immediately, that if it wasn’t for Cindy Wilson and Kate Piersen’s sublime harmonies they would have been unlistenable.

152 klys  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 8:02:48pm

re: #149 engineer cat

we all move here in order to be insane

There’s insane, and then there’s insane.

153 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 8:06:17pm

re: #148 klys

I am reminded, once again, that the CA real estate market is fucking insane.

That is all.

Not as insane, perhaps, as some of those who seek profit in its rebound. Not home building workers or developers, mind you, but here, read for your self:

Alas, years of zero-interest-rate policy by the Federal Reserve has yet again triggered a chase for yield, and in response the banks are gingerly dipping their toes back into the private mortgage-securitization pool. History won’t repeat itself, right?

Well, not so fast. As with all things related to Wall Street, it’s all about the incentives. And the individuals behind the securitization machine before the crisis made a lot of money. Like buy-your-own-island type of money. And when everything collapsed, they largely kept that money. No indictments, no handcuffs, no jail time and no significant financial penalties for the architects of a crisis built on a foundation of fraud (they were called liar loans for a reason).

Although the government has brought some civil cases, they have been settled on terms that can only be compared to the proverbial slap on the wrist, and we are reminded almost daily that there remain banks that are both too big to fail and too big to jail.

The one silver lining to this very dark cloud is that the banks haven’t yet proved to be too big to nail, as the wronged purchasers and insurers of their toxic bonds have been waging an occasionally successful multiyear legal battle against the banks and, indirectly, actually punishing them financially for their misconduct. It, therefore, shouldn’t be surprising that, as the banks re-enter the securitization market, their biggest concern seemingly isn’t to ensure that they aren’t once again peddling fraudulent products that might bring government scrutiny, but rather to deal with private civil litigation.

So, as reported in the Wall Street Journal, they have proposed stripping away investors’ ability to later sue them by putting an expiration date on the representations and warranties in the bonds and altering some of the presumptions when a borrower defaults.

Put simply, the old bonds contained legal clauses in the contracts that essentially said: “Hey, we promise that what we say are in these bonds are actually in the bonds. And if not, you can sue us.” The new bonds? “Good luck with that.”

Read the rest. (Links in original. Edited only to correct a minor spacing mistake.)

154 engineer cat  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 8:07:25pm

re: #152 klys

There’s insane, and then there’s insane.

that’s the kind i am

155 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 8:08:22pm

re: #150 goddamnedfrank

There was a cop down here in Riverside who just executed some random dude in a bar because the dude was sass mouthing him during a game of darts.

That’s a man who should not have been a cop at the time of the incident, if ever.

156 Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 8:09:47pm

re: #150 goddamnedfrank

Drunks like loaded guns. As an ex-bartender, goddamn I hated to have to deal with armed customers. I had one guy in Chicago who was just so proud of his carry license, it creeped me the fuck out. Told it to everyone, showed it to everyone. Thought he was going to get ‘recruited’ by the mob. I could never quite tell if he was serious or just a gigantic weirdo playing a role.

157 klys  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 8:12:38pm

re: #153 Dark_Falcon

Not as insane, perhaps, as some of those who seek profit in its rebound. Not home building workers or developers, mind you, but here, read for your self:

Read the rest. (Links in original. Edited only to correct a minor spacing mistake.)

What gets me about the CA market is they recommend you spend 3x your annual income on a house, right? If you want to be financially sensible about it.

Yeah, good luck with that. The main reason we own a home is because my husband bought it in ‘96.

158 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 8:13:48pm

A more pleasant link than my previous one. If you’re a fan of aircraft, World War Two history, strong women, or just Kodachrome, you’re in for a treat. Here are a couple samples:

Image: Wingwomen-1a35340_1u_0.jpg

Image: Wingwomen-1a35331u.jpg

159 engineer cat  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 8:14:15pm

re: #157 klys

What gets me about the CA market is they recommend you spend 3x your annual income on a house, right? If you want to be financially sensible about it.

Yeah, good luck with that. The main reason we own a home is because my husband bought it in ‘96.

when i lived back in manhattan people used to ask me how to get a good deal on an apartment

i told them ‘move here thirty years ago’

160 Charles Johnson  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 8:15:48pm

How to Avoid Huge Ships (9780870334337): John W. Trimmer: Books

As the father of two teenagers, I found this book invaluable. I’m sure other parents here can empathize when I say I shudder at the thought of the increasing influence and presence of huge ships in the lives my children. I certainly remember the strain I caused so long ago for my own parents when I began experimenting with huge ships. The long inter-continental voyages that kept my mom and dad up all night with worry. Don’t even get me started on the international protocols when transporting perishable cargo. To think, I was even younger than my kids are now! huge ships are everywhere and it doesn’t help that the tv and movies make huge ships seem glamorous and cool. This book helped me really approach the subject of huge ships with my kids in an honest, open and non judgmental way. Because of the insights this book provided, I can sleep a little better and cope with the reality that I can’t always be there to protect my kids from huge ships, especially as they become adults. I’m confident that my teens, when confronted by a huge ship, are much better prepared to make wiser decisions than I did. At the very least my children certainly know that they can always come to me if they have any concerns, questions or just need my support when it comes to the topic of huge ships.

161 jaunte  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 8:18:16pm
162 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 8:19:39pm

re: #160 Charles Johnson

[headdesk]

163 Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 8:24:14pm

re: #160 Charles Johnson

According to a friend of mine who sails out of San Francisco, that’s actually a must-have.

164 Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 8:24:38pm
165 jaunte  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 8:25:39pm

re: #164 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Mimes with digestive issues love David Hasselhof.

166 sattv4u2  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 8:26:54pm

re: #165 jaunte

Mimes with digestive issues love David Hasselhof.

I was thinking it was a John Wayne Gacy starter set!!

167 jaunte  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 8:28:17pm
I ordered this product last Tuesday, and after it was delivered to me by the usual delivery falcons, I immediately began applying it to my face and neck. However, something was wrong. No matter how much I applied, or no matter where I applied it, I just wasn’t as happy as the gentleman on the box. I bought several more packages of it, just in case I’d received a defective batch, but alas, I couldn’t recreate the male model’s sheer sense of happiness and general well being. Then I began to think “What if it’s not a problem with the product? What if it’s a problem with ME?!”

I realized that it was indeed my own problems that prevented me from achieving inner peace and true joy, so I began selling all my possessions. In fact, the only thing I didn’t sell was the face paint, because I keep the packaging so I can look at that man’s face every day and swear that one day, I will be as content with life as he is.

But I must cut this review short, as the manager of this internet cafe doesn’t take kindly to people sitting naked in their seats and attempting to pay with positive thoughts. I’ll just wrap up with this: Thank you, AMSCAN. Thank you. When I bought your product, I didn’t just receive one ounce of white face paint. I received one ounce of truth.
amazon.com

168 engineer cat  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 8:28:21pm

re: #161 jaunte

Image: Screen_Shot_2013-04-26_at_10.17.53_PM.png

this is a very esoteric form of humor

made me laugh

169 dragonath  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 8:43:48pm

re: #168 engineer cat

this is a very esoteric form of humor

made me laugh

Hasselhoff is priceless

170 engineer cat  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 8:55:56pm

i am testing and finalizing these application wide changes i made

it’s a little bit like driving a car until you crash into something, then getting out and fixing what made you crash, then getting back in and driving until you crash into something else

171 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 9:03:14pm

re: #170 engineer cat

i am testing and finalizing these application wide changes i made

it’s a little bit like driving a car until you crash into something, then getting out and fixing what made you crash, then getting back in and driving until you crash into something else

Heh. I can dig it. I’m trying to bring up an old free LISP that was distributed on the 4.2 & 4.3 BSD tapes _WAY_ back in the day. On my modern Ubuntu 12.10 Linux box. Let’s just say there are a whole lot of different assumptions between Berkeley and Linus that make the differences between 4.3 & SYSV look trivial. “But they’re all UNIX, right???” Yeesh.

(Franz Lisp Opus 38.92. Someone else did the dirtiest work back around NetBSD 0.8 when they wrote the x86 code generator or I’d not be trying this game.)

172 engineer cat  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 9:04:19pm

re: #171 William Barnett-Lewis

Heh. I can dig it. I’m trying to bring up an old free LISP that was distributed on the 4.2 & 4.3 BSD tapes _WAY_ back in the day. On my modern Ubuntu 12.10 Linux box. Let’s just say there are a whole lot of different assumptions between Berkeley and Linus that make the differences between 4.3 & SYSV look trivial. “But they’re all UNIX, right???” Yeesh.

(Franz Lisp Opus 38.92. Someone else did the dirtiest work back around NetBSD 0.8 when they wrote the x86 code generator or I’d not be trying this game.)

unixes are like the balkans or so i’ve heard

173 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 9:09:19pm

re: #172 engineer cat

unixes are like the balkans or so i’ve heard

Nah, the Balkans were organized compared the the herd of Unixen.

bhami.com shows all the different ways different versions of supposedly the same system have come up with to do the exact same things.

174 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 9:28:38pm

Well, I am now at the end of Old World Blues.

What should I do regarding the brain?

175 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 9:31:03pm

Regarding SC precedents on the right to self-defense here’s part of a decision from an old but interesting case from 1894, Starr v. United States.

This Cherokee, when riding across the country, was entitled to protect his life, although he may have forfeited a bail bond, and been seeking to avoid arrest on that account, of which there was some slight evidence incidentally given. But, if such were the fact, he could not be considered as doing exactly what he had a right to do, or as having an especially pure heart and clean hands. In a subsequent part of the charge the learned judge said, referring to the defendant: ‘He was a fugitive from justice, if he had jumped the bond he had in this court, as they say. If he had forfeited his bond, and was up in that country, hiding out from his usual place of abode, to avoid arrest, he was then a fugitive from justice; and you have a right to take that condition into consideration. And in passing upon the question as to what was the probable action of these parties at that time,—as to what would be the rights of the officer and of this defendant,—you have a right to see this transaction in the condition that surrounded it, and as it was characterized by the position of the parties towards it. You have a right to look at that condition, and see if he was expecting officers to pursue him. If he was hiding away from them, he was then a fugitive from justice; and, if that was true, it is a fact that becomes pertinent for you to take into consideration, and the question whether he had reasonable ground, from what transpired, to know that Floyd Wilson was an officer, and was seeking to arrest him.’ This was duly excepted to, but apart from the exception, and assuming that the circumstance that he may have anticipated arrest for the reason suggested tended to show that he knew or believed that such was the mission of Wilson, these comments put it beyond question that the defendant was not doing what he had a right to do; and if the jury understood that the scope of what had previously been said embraced the rightfulness of his conduct generally, rather than his conduct in respect of the immediate transaction, they could not but have been materially influenced to his prejudice.

In Selfridge’s Case, the defendant was walking up State street, in Boston, on an errand to the bank, and undoubtedly was in the lawful pursuit of his business when he was attacked, and it was in reference to that fact that the first proposition in the charge in that case was laid down; but here the particular words were inapplicable, and their use calculated to create an erroneous impression.

The motive of the accused in being where he was had nothing to do with the question of his right of self-defense, in itself; and the unlawfulness of his previous conduct formed, in itself, no element in the solution of that question, but was to be considered only in so far as it threw light on his belief that his arrest was sought by the officer.

In this case a man was convicted of murder for shooting and killing a deputy attempting to serve an arrest warrant. The decision actually revolves around judicial misconduct in terms of statements the presiding Judge made to the jury, which the SC deemed prejudicial. In the section quoted the Court is saying that the Judge’s reasoning and interpretations of self defense law was flawed, that the previous bad conduct by Mr. Starr was irrelevant to dismissing his attempted legal defense on the grounds of self-defense, that if the Deputy never identified himself and Starr honestly didn’t know he was a law enforcement officer, even if only because evasive posturing from Starr motivated the deputy to immediately start shooting. According to all witnesses, including a surviving marshall, the deputy shot first four times without identifying himself, Starr then ran up to the deputy and shot him a point blank range, killing him.

The Court ordered a retrial.

176 Amory Blaine  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 9:35:23pm

Richard Collins who played Phil Collins on Trailer Park Boys passed away 4/15/13.

RIP Mustard Tiger.

177 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 10:54:39pm

Well, well beyond a usual dead thread for me so good night, god bless & we’ll see you all soon enough.

178 HoosierHoops  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 10:58:01pm

re: #177 William Barnett-Lewis

Well, well beyond a usual dead thread for me so good night, god bless & we’ll see you all soon enough.

Good Night and be well..
Winston is sleeping and I’m watching Sportscenter..

179 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 11:11:09pm

re: #78 prairiefire

St. Martins! Sailing & snorkeling & sea turtles!

180 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 11:13:38pm

re: #116 HoosierHoops

Smoochies!

181 HoosierHoops  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 11:14:09pm

re: #179 Dancing along the light of day

St. Martins! Sailing & snorkeling & sea turtles!

Hi you! Nikki got engaged! Pops is happy and full of joy

182 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 11:18:51pm

re: #181 HoosierHoops

Just don’t be pushing on the Grandkids. Let them have some time!
So happy for her!

183 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 11:27:35pm

There’s something immensely amusing about watching my sister, who loves hack and slash games like Fable, trying to get the hang of Mass Effect.

184 prairiefire  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 11:27:53pm

re: #181 HoosierHoops

Hi, Hoops!

185 HoosierHoops  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 11:29:49pm

re: #184 prairiefire

Hi, Hoops!

Hi you! how is life?

186 prairiefire  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 11:36:06pm

re: #185 HoosierHoops

Hi you! how is life?

It’s great and mysterious. I discovered through Ancestry that I share a grandfather with President Barack Obama. Johan Wolfley, born 1728 in Germany and an immigrant to America. On his mother’s Kansas side. I am honored, and I always pegged him for a Kansas man. Kansas values, pragmatic mid-west logic.

187 Gus  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 11:41:29pm
188 HoosierHoops  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 11:44:23pm

re: #186 prairiefire

It’s great and mysterious. I discovered through Ancestry that I share a grandfather with President Barack Obama. Johan Wolfley, born 1728 in Germany and an immigrant to America. On his mother’s Kansas side. I am honored, and I always pegged him for a Kansas man. Kansas values, pragmatic mid-west logic.

That is amazing!

189 Cheechako  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 11:46:42pm

re: #188 HoosierHoops

Did you ever retire and move to the Lake? I spent most of the winter in the Arizona desert and missed a lot of the happenings on LGF.

190 Gus  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 11:51:17pm

Loretta Lynn - Coal Miner’s Daughter

191 Kragar  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 11:57:41pm

re: #190 Gus

The Buoys - ‘Timothy’

192 HoosierHoops  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 11:57:43pm

re: #189 Cheechako

Did you ever retire and move to the Lake? I spent most of the winter in the Arizona desert and missed a lot of the happenings on LGF.

not yet..I have dealt with tax issues and retirement package issues.
things will work out soon

193 Gus  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 12:01:58am

re: #191 Kragar

The Buoys - ‘Timothy’

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194 Kragar  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 12:05:51am

re: #193 Gus

The Blues Image - Ride Captain Ride

195 Gus  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 12:06:45am

Bob Dylan - Meet Me In The Morning

196 Gus  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 12:10:33am

John Basilone Death in The Pacific

197 Kragar  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 12:31:18am

Elf - Stay With Me (1972)

198 EdDantes  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 2:12:29am

re: #197 Kragar

Elf - Stay With Me (1972)

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Nice version, but that is a Rod Stewart song.

199 EdDantes  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 2:20:46am
200 Kragar  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 2:54:18am

re: #198 EdDantes

Nice version, but that is a Rod Stewart song.

Dio > Stewart

201 Kragar  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 2:55:46am

Ronnie Dio & The Prophets - Gonna Make It Alone - 1963

202 Kragar  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 3:01:33am

The Electric Elves - Hey, Look Me Over {feat. RONNIE JAMES DIO} -1967

203 Kragar  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 3:05:42am

Dio - The Last in Line

204 boredtechindenver  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 4:51:10am

re: #85 klys

Yes, they came with labels, but not for all the spices I needed and my OCD wouldn’t allow mismatches.

Your labels aren’t lined up properly enough for my OCD.

205 Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 6:11:04am

Professor Solomon has a helmet.

206 Four More Tears  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 7:49:03am
207 Four More Tears  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 7:49:52am
208 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 7:53:38am

re: #207 Four More Tears

Well, ain’t that just a kick in the head. :)

209 A Mom Anon  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 7:55:01am

re: #208 Dark_Falcon

(groan)… but I did laugh…

210 Four More Tears  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 7:58:49am

re: #209 A Mom Anon

(groan)… but I did laugh…

Don’t encourage him!

211 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 8:07:45am

re: #210 Four More Tears

Don’t encourage him!

Sorry. I’ve been trying to up my game in humor in order to be a better engaged co-worker. Sometimes the jokes are a bit lame, since its still new territory for me. But it is largely working and it helps me appear in a better light to my colleagues at work.

212 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 8:13:26am

re: #208 Dark_Falcon

Well, ain’t that just a kick in the head. :)

Chop to it!

213 Iwouldprefernotto  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 8:13:46am

re: #211 Dark_Falcon

Sorry. I’ve been trying to up my game in humor in order to be a better engaged co-worker. Sometimes the jokes are a bit lame, since its still new territory for me. But it is largely working and it helps me appear in a better light to my colleagues at work.

I gave you an upding for effort. My sense of humor has gotten me into my trouble than it has helped, but someday it will pay off.

214 Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 8:14:26am

re: #211 Dark_Falcon

You have a genuinely good sense of humor combined with an incredibly lame and yet somehow sweet sense of humor, and the overall combination is charming enough over the interwebs. no clue how it goes in person.

215 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 8:17:46am

re: #212 William Barnett-Lewis

re: #213 Iwouldprefernotto

re: #214 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Thanks.

216 Four More Tears  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 8:19:28am

re: #211 Dark_Falcon

Sorry. I’ve been trying to up my game in humor in order to be a better engaged co-worker. Sometimes the jokes are a bit lame, since its still new territory for me. But it is largely working and it helps me appear in a better light to my colleagues at work.

Work on recognizing humor. More times than I can count, one of us on this blog have made a joke and you’ve replied with a straight-faced, serious answer. You need to see the joke, grasshopper. Just a piece of unsolicited advice.

217 jaunte  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 8:21:48am
218 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 8:28:20am

re: #217 jaunte

Are those penguins?

219 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 8:30:27am

re: #216 Four More Tears

Work on recognizing humor. More times than I can count, one of us on this blog have made a joke and you’ve replied with a straight-faced, serious answer. You need to see the joke, grasshopper. Just a piece of unsolicited advice.

About 40% of the time when I do that, I do see the joke. But I like using “straight man” answers in situations like that. Is is my way.

220 jaunte  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 8:31:36am

re: #218 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Looks like it; apparently the same group dressed as smurfs last year.
metro.co.uk

telegraph.co.uk

222 Amory Blaine  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 8:37:13am

re: #206 Four More Tears

Huh. Can’t help but think if the factory were here they’d vilify some lower level employee(s) in the media then give the owners a tax break and a platform to spew bullshit about unions. Good for them.

223 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 8:44:33am

re: #222 Amory Blaine

Huh. Can’t help but think if the factory were here they’d vilify some lower level employee(s) in the media then give the owners a tax break and a platform to spew bullshit about unions. Good for them.

No, too similar to the Triangle Shirtwaist fire for that. More fines and lawsuits. Probably no prison time here though, at least not for the people at the top. Some low-level flunkies would do some time, but that would be it.

224 Four More Tears  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 8:45:38am

Exactly what Jesus would have said.

225 jaunte  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 8:51:37am

re: #224 Four More Tears

I wonder if Fischer would argue that he’s not a true representative of Christian thought.

226 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 8:52:39am

I sometimes wonder if Fischer isn’t like really some kind of satanist trying to damage christianity with his idiotic unchristian blatherings. Sort of a half sarc kind of pondering.

227 jaunte  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 9:06:14am

Amanda Marcotte:
There Are No Trolls, Only Bigots

“…I’d like to offer a revised theory of trolling: Mean-spirited people who run around saying bigoted things in an obvious bid for attention aren’t just doing it for the lulz. They really mean those horrible things.”

228 efuseakay  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 9:18:07am

re: #92 EPR-radar

This line of argument doesn’t work so well. Is the first amendment limited only to printing presses as they were at the time of the founding?

Let’s see… printing presses, or weapons. Uh…

229 Gus  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 9:21:04am

re: #227 jaunte

Amanda Marcotte:
There Are No Trolls, Only Bigots

She’s responding to one douche bag who made some public display. He also happens to have all of 265 followers on dumb Twitter. The future of civilization is at stake here.

230 jaunte  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 9:21:59am

re: #229 Gus

He looks nice.
thinkprogress.org

231 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 9:23:27am

re: #224 Four More Tears

Exactly what Jesus would have said.

I do defend their right to starve—Bobby Sands, H-Block, consistency.

232 Gus  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 9:24:32am

re: #230 jaunte

He looks nice.
thinkprogress.org

I quit Twitter. Tired of all of this tiny news crap and then the subsequent outrage. One asshole in redneck, backwards, Arizona.

233 jaunte  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 9:26:28am

re: #232 Gus

I think it’s news because he’s representative of a wider mindset. He’s just acting it out in the open.

234 jaunte  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 9:28:41am

“You made me feel x, therefore you are bad and at fault for my reaction.”

235 Four More Tears  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 9:29:05am

re: #230 jaunte

He looks nice.
thinkprogress.org

Is this a Phelps audition?

236 Gus  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 9:29:10am

re: #233 jaunte

I think it’s news because he’s representative of a wider mindset. He’s just acting it out in the open.

There’s a lot of creeps out there. Thinking about them every day makes for a bad existence.

237 Gus  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 9:29:50am

And on that note.

238 jaunte  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 9:30:00am

re: #236 Gus

I also think about groups of people dressed like penguins.

239 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 9:33:50am

re: #158 Dark_Falcon

A more pleasant link than my previous one. If you’re a fan of aircraft, World War Two history, strong women, or just Kodachrome, you’re in for a treat. Here are a couple samples:

Image: Wingwomen-1a35340_1u_0.jpg

Image: Wingwomen-1a35331u.jpg

Those are great photos, with amazing preservation. One of my 90 yr old friends was a riveter at the Boeing plant in Wichita.

(The total lack of eye protection really makes me hope they were all posed re-enactments.)

240 Romantic Heretic  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 9:34:21am

re: #172 engineer cat

unixes are like the balkans or so i’ve heard

I always regarded UNIX as being like an F-15. It’s big and fast. It will get you to the target, paste the target and get you back in jig time.

But…

You need a shit hot pilot sitting in the cockpit, and for every hour in the air you need several man hours, at least, of maintenance. Otherwise you end up with a big hole in the ground.

Unix is one of the reasons I stopped being a computer programmer. I believe, and still do, it’s the wrong way to go. It’s like Latin is in the Catholic Church: a way to keep the peasants away from understanding so they must go to priests (programmers) to have a relationship with God (computers).

Also at some point you must make the transition from programmer to manager and there are few people less suited to being a manager than I. Plus I went insane.

241 jaunte  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 9:40:24am
242 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 9:41:48am

re: #239 Decatur Deb

Those are great photos, with amazing preservation. One of my 90 yr old friends was a riveter at the Boeing plant in Wichita.

(The total lack of eye protection really makes me hope they were all posed re-enactments.)

Most were, as Kodachrome wasn’t as fast then as it later became. The only sour note of the gallery was this one:

Image: Wingwomen-1a35326u1_0.jpg

The brown object pinned to the young lady’s vest is a hyper-stereotyped charactercher of an African-American woman. While that sort of thing did start its decline during WWII, racism was still common. The aircraft plants in Texas at the time still had a good number of men and even women who were openly and apologetically racist.

243 HoosierHoops  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 9:45:09am

re: #240 Romantic Heretic

I always regarded UNIX as being like an F-15. It’s big and fast. It will get you to the target, paste the target and get you back in jig time.

But…

You need a shit hot pilot sitting in the cockpit, and for every hour in the air you need several man hours, at least, of maintenance. Otherwise you end up with a big hole in the ground.

Unix is one of the reasons I stopped being a computer programmer. I believe, and still do, it’s the wrong way to go. It’s like Latin is in the Catholic Church: a way to keep the peasants away from understanding so they must go to priests (programmers) to have a relationship with God (computers).

Also at some point you must make the transition from programmer to manager and there are few people less suited to being a manager than I. Plus I went insane.

Any project over 100,000 lines of code should be written in C++.
C is normally used for device drivers anymore.
UNIX certainly has it’s strong points

244 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 9:50:03am

re: #242 Dark_Falcon

Most were, as Kodachrome wasn’t as fast then as it later became. The only sour note of the gallery was this one:

Image: Wingwomen-1a35326u1_0.jpg

The brown object pinned to the young lady’s vest is a hyper-stereotyped charactercher of an African-American woman. While that sort of thing did start its decline during WWII, racism was still common. The aircraft plants in Texas at the time still had a good number of men and even women who were openly and apologetically racist.

re: #242 Dark_Falcon

Most were, as Kodachrome wasn’t as fast then as it later became. The only sour note of the gallery was this one:

Image: Wingwomen-1a35326u1_0.jpg

The brown object pinned to the young lady’s vest is a hyper-stereotyped charactercher of an African-American woman. While that sort of thing did start its decline during WWII, racism was still common. The aircraft plants in Texas at the time still had a good number of men and even women who were openly and apologetically racist.

Are you sure about the pin? I saw it as a paratroop with a camo-mesh helmet cover. (Had my second laser eye surgery yesterday—everything is a bit blurred.) At any rate, it’s no shock—I grew up reading Uncle Remus and Little Black Sambo. It’s ridiculous to get bent out of shape because our forebears were not more advanced than their times. That applies to TR’s, Lincoln’s, Wilson’s and Margaret Sanger’s racism.

245 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 9:53:13am

re: #244 Decatur Deb

re: #242 Dark_Falcon

Are you sure about the pin? I saw it as a paratroop with a camo-mesh helmet cover. (Had my second laser eye surgery yesterday—everything is a bit blurred.) At any rate, it’s no shock—I grew up reading Uncle Remus and Little Black Sambo. It’s ridiculous to get bent out of shape because our forebears were not more advanced than their times. That applies to TR’s, Lincoln’s, Wilson’s and Margaret Sanger’s racism.

I’m not bent out of shape, but it is a sour note in my eyes.

246 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 9:55:31am

re: #245 Dark_Falcon

I’m not bent out of shape, but it is a sour note in my eyes.

S’OK—it was sort of a sour century.

247 Four More Tears  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 9:55:33am

re: #244 Decatur Deb

re: #242 Dark_Falcon

Are you sure about the pin? I saw it as a paratroop with a camo-mesh helmet cover. (Had my second laser eye surgery yesterday—everything is a bit blurred.) At any rate, it’s no shock—I grew up reading Uncle Remus and Little Black Sambo. It’s ridiculous to get bent out of shape because our forebears were not more advanced than their times. That applies to TR’s, Lincoln’s, Wilson’s and Margaret Sanger’s racism.

Pretty sure I see two big, fat red lips there.

248 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 9:59:06am

re: #247 Four More Tears

Pretty sure I see two big, fat red lips there.

Wouldn’t argue at the moment—can only hang online for a an hour at a time for then next few days. Doc knocked holes through my irises to prevent further sneaky optic nerve damage.

249 wrenchwench  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 10:01:56am

re: #248 Decatur Deb

Wouldn’t argue at the moment—can only hang online for a an hour at a time for then next few days. Doc knocked holes through my irises to prevent further sneaky optic nerve damage.

And you’re concerned about eye protection for the riveters??!??!

/

250 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 10:02:18am

re: #246 Decatur Deb

S’OK—it was sort of a sour century.

In many ways, yes. But still, those Kodachromes and the stories behind them have endured in the memory of the United States, and have continued to influence popular cultures in ways great and small. An example from over 25 years ago, a music video I immediately though of when viewing the photo gallery:

251 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 10:04:14am

re: #247 Four More Tears

Pretty sure I see two big, fat red lips there.

and a nose ring.

252 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 10:04:16am

re: #249 wrenchwench

And you’re concerned about eye protection for the riveters??!??!

/

They were young—and I’m probably more sensitive to it than usual this week. My numbers have fallen back into the ‘amber’ zone and the doc says any number of things will probably kill me before I’d go blind.

253 klys  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 10:06:29am

re: #204 boredtechindenver

Your labels aren’t lined up properly enough for my OCD.

Hehe.

My husband came home, looked at them, and told me once again that my handwriting is freakish. And inhuman.

254 wrenchwench  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 10:07:07am

re: #252 Decatur Deb

They were young—and I’m probably more sensitive to it than usual this week. My numbers have fallen back into the ‘amber’ zone and the doc says any number of things will probably kill me before I’d go blind.

I hope it’s extreme old age.

255 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 10:09:11am

re: #254 wrenchwench

I hope it’s extreme old age.

Careful what you wish. “Jealous husband” is the proper offering.

256 klys  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 10:09:47am

re: #252 Decatur Deb

They were young—and I’m probably more sensitive to it than usual this week. My numbers have fallen back into the ‘amber’ zone and the doc says any number of things will probably kill me before I’d go blind.

Eye protection is genuinely important. I have a pair of safety glasses at the house and like 6 pairs at the office. Doesn’t take much to do damage.

I hope stuff heals up quickly.

257 jaunte  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 10:12:01am

re: #242 Dark_Falcon

That might be, as Decatur Deb suggested, a crudely carved soldier face.
I googled “wooden soldier brooch” and found this, which looks somewhat similar:
Image: Screen_Shot_2013-04-27_at_12.09.17_PM.png

258 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 10:12:58am

re: #256 klys

Eye protection is genuinely important. I have a pair of safety glasses at the house and like 6 pairs at the office. Doesn’t take much to do damage.

I hope stuff heals up quickly.

True that. There is a reason your saw so many of the police and feds engaged in hunting the Boston bombers wearing eye protection. Gunfire often creates fragments of concrete and stone and splinters of wood, any of which can ruin an eye.

259 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 10:13:19am

re: #257 jaunte

That might be, as Decatur Deb suggested, a crudely carved soldier face.
I googled “wooden soldier brooch” and found this, which looks somewhat similar:
Image: Screen_Shot_2013-04-27_at_12.09.17_PM.png

“Mein Fuhrer—I’m cured!!”

260 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 10:13:32am

re: #240 Romantic Heretic

I always regarded UNIX as being like an F-15. It’s big and fast. It will get you to the target, paste the target and get you back in jig time.

But…

You need a shit hot pilot sitting in the cockpit, and for every hour in the air you need several man hours, at least, of maintenance. Otherwise you end up with a big hole in the ground.

Unix is one of the reasons I stopped being a computer programmer. I believe, and still do, it’s the wrong way to go. It’s like Latin is in the Catholic Church: a way to keep the peasants away from understanding so they must go to priests (programmers) to have a relationship with God (computers).

Also at some point you must make the transition from programmer to manager and there are few people less suited to being a manager than I. Plus I went insane.

Perhaps it’s because it was the first real (non-PC that is) environment I ever worked with, but I’ve come to love Unix. The earlier versions were lean and mean - you could (and still can ;) run 2.11BSD on a PDP-11 with 4mb of ram and support 32 users simultaneously. Nothing else of that generation could come close unless you spent a much bigger pile of money.

The problem does come from the balkanization that was discussed last night and the fact that most of the proprietary unixen, where most of the really interesting things relating to filesystems & graphics were being done, have gone away leaving us with a gazillion linuxen & the BSDs.

OTOH, it can’t be too hard to manage when you can get boxes with uptimes of 3.737 days :) littlegreenfootballs.com

261 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 10:16:38am

re: #257 jaunte

That might be, as Decatur Deb suggested, a crudely carved soldier face.
I googled “wooden soldier brooch” and found this, which looks somewhat similar:
Image: Screen_Shot_2013-04-27_at_12.09.17_PM.png

Possible. I admit I try to make sure I spot racism in pages I post links to, mostly because I don’t want to be an insensitive asshole. I also want to set an example of how conservatives can act better on matters of race, and that might mean I on rare occasions see something as problematic that really isn’t.

262 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 10:17:49am

re: #259 Decatur Deb

“Mein Fuhrer—I’m cured!!”

“Children’s ice cream, Mandrake!”

/One good riff deserves another.

263 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 10:24:54am

BBL—

264 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 10:25:29am

re: #211 Dark_Falcon

Sorry. I’ve been trying to up my game in humor in order to be a better engaged co-worker. Sometimes the jokes are a bit lame, since its still new territory for me. But it is largely working and it helps me appear in a better light to my colleagues at work.

Sad to say, this post of mine has been fixated on by “Daedalus” AKA Rodan AKA Dorkus, who have gotten on early start today, hating on LGF in general and me in specific. To Dorkus, I offer the following reply:

265 Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 10:40:11am

re: #264 Dark_Falcon

I always forget they exist and expect that they’ve found something better to do. It’s like being told that some guy who got dumped by a girl ten years ago still drunk-dials her.

266 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 10:41:46am

A man walks into a bar… ouch.

267 stabby  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 10:47:12am

“Lifestyle” headline and I think “Popular Page” on PJ Media last night:
No Matter How Evil a Soul Becomes, Can It Still Find A Way to Return to The Creator?

It consists, entirely, of a picture of a mean looking middle aged woman in a Hijab and a photograph of a page of some Christian text on the topic, but the top 2/3rds is too blurry to read.

268 stabby  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 10:48:59am

No one thought the picture was inappropriate.

269 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 11:04:30am

...

270 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 11:06:13am

re: #269 Dark_Falcon

It’s not a problem.

271 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 11:12:54am

re: #270 Charles Johnson

It’s not a problem.

Understood. Previous post deleted. BBL


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