Feel Good Video of the Day: Cambridge Resident Unloads on Alex Jones Clown

“You’re an asshole and so is Alex Jones”
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This is a terrific moment, as a Cambridge resident confronts Dan Bidondi, the Alex Jones stooge who disrupted press conferences about the Boston bombings with inane questions about “false flags.”

In a perfect world, every time one of these delusional creeps showed up in public, people would be there to treat them exactly like this. This unnamed Bostonian is our hero of the day.

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1 Kragar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:10:52am

“Keep running your piss flaps.”

2 HappyWarrior  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:12:18am

You tell em Cambridge!

3 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:14:02am

That video is so filled with awesome.

4 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:14:37am

I cannot wait to see this spun as part of a left-wing conspiracy to suppress AJ’s right to free speech…

5 HappyWarrior  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:14:40am

re: #3 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

That video is so filled with awesome.

Nuddnik.

6 HappyWarrior  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:15:51am

“He’s your Jim Jones is what he is.” Yes!

7 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:16:20am

re: #4 Sol Berdinowitz

The thing that gets me is if you ask what freedoms they think they’re losing all they can say is they FEEL like they are losing freedom. They can’t say which ones. None of them have any clue what it’s like to live in a real dictatorship and they should be damn glad they don’t.

8 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:16:37am

Can’t wait to hear how AJ and this numbnuts was oppressed.

Next on Drudge.

9 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:17:24am

re: #7 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

The thing that gets me is if you ask what freedoms they think they’re losing all they can say is they FEEL like they are losing freedom. They can’t say which ones. None of them have any clue what it’s like to live in a real dictatorship and they should be damn glad they don’t.

“Freedom of speech” is taken as the right to say any damn thing that pops into your head without having to face the consequences for saying it.

10 HappyWarrior  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:17:35am

re: #7 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

The thing that gets me is if you ask what freedoms they think they’re losing all they can say is they FEEL like they are losing freedom. They can’t say which ones. None of them have any clue what it’s like to live in a real dictatorship and they should be damn glad they don’t.

Teh other thing is that Jones has been pulling this crap since Bush’s first term. This is the most incompetent dictatorship ever.

11 GunstarGreen  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:18:17am

re: #7 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

The thing that gets me is if you ask what freedoms they think they’re losing all they can say is they FEEL like they are losing freedom. They can’t say which ones. None of them have any clue what it’s like to live in a real dictatorship and they should be damn glad they don’t.

Facts are irrelevant, there is only the outrage.

The people that screech the loudest about FREEDOM™ are those that know the least about what our laws actually have to say regarding freedoms.

12 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:19:29am

re: #7 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

The thing that gets me is if you ask what freedoms they think they’re losing all they can say is they FEEL like they are losing freedom. They can’t say which ones. None of them have any clue what it’s like to live in a real dictatorship and they should be damn glad they don’t.

THEIRR TAKIN AWAY ARR GUNZ!!11!!

Sir, did anyone from the government come to take away your guns?

NO AND THEY AINT GETTIN EM. MOLOM LABE!!111!!

13 wrenchwench  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:19:34am

A masterful job. I don’t think I could keep that up for four minutes.

14 Lidane  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:20:02am

This is beautiful. I love it. That unnamed guy is awesome.

If only more people insulted Alex Jones and his Infowars/Prison Planet goons just like this.

15 thedopefishlives  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:20:05am

re: #13 wrenchwench

A masterful job. I don’t think I could keep that up for four minutes.

Comparable to the immortal Chevy Chase speech from National Lampoon’s Christmas Vacation, but even more epic.

16 BLUE POINT 09  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:20:32am

That is exactly how you should treat these hyenas. A tip of my hat to this MAN behind the post. “Drink a dick, dude.” Line of the week.

17 Kragar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:21:13am

re: #16 BLUE POINT SAVORY

That is exactly how you should treat these hyenas. A tip of my hat to this MAN behind the post. “Drink a dick, dude.” Line of the week.

Another golden moment.

18 HappyWarrior  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:22:31am

I think the only thing that would have made this more epic is if he had a thick Southie accent but this was awesome. I don’t blame the guy for going off on Jones and his sheepish followers. So funny that they call other people sheep when they’re sheep for one of the biggest shepherds in the country.

19 jaunte  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:23:27am

“OWN IT.”

20 Kragar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:25:04am

Speaking of asshats…

Ron Paul: Government Response Scarier Than Boston Bombing

“The Boston bombing provided the opportunity for the government to turn what should have been a police investigation into a military-style occupation of an American city,” Paul wrote Monday. “This unprecedented move should frighten us as much or more than the attack itself.

“Forced lockdown of a city. Militarized police riding tanks in the streets. Door-to-door armed searches without warrant. Families thrown out of their homes at gunpoint to be searched without probable cause. Businesses forced to close. Transport shut down,” Paul wrote. “These were not the scenes from a military coup in a far off banana republic, but rather the scenes just over a week ago in Boston as the United States got a taste of martial law. The ostensible reason for the military-style takeover of parts of Boston was that the accused perpetrator of a horrific crime was on the loose.”

Paul argued that these measures were ineffective in catching alleged bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev because “Only after this police state move was ended did the owner of the boat go outside to check on his property, and in so doing discover the suspect.” Government’s job “is to protect our liberties,” Paul argued, not to keep Americans safe.

Daubenmire: Hunt For Boston Marathon Bomber Was a Dry Run for Martial Law

…the hunt for Dzhokhar Tsarnaev that essentially locked-down the city of Boston earlier this month was a test run by the government to see how citizens would respond when martial law is imposed.

“There was a day in America when we wouldn’t have sat around inside of our houses, hiding from a nineteen year old kid,” Daubermire declared, “but we would have grabbed our guns and gone to the street and found that young man ourselves.”

“If you live in a city,” he continued, “and you have any way that you possible can, find a place to move outside of the outer belt in your city”:

21 Dr. Matt  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:25:37am

Has the libertarian freakshow starting howling that the Cambridge resident is actually an Obama employee/informant/paid-stooge??

22 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:26:40am

re: #21 Dr. Matt

Has the libertarian freakshow starting howling that the Cambridge resident is actually an Obama employee/informant/paid-stooge??

any minute now…

23 thedopefishlives  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:26:59am

re: #21 Dr. Matt

Has the libertarian freakshow starting howling that the Cambridge resident is actually an Obama employee/informant/paid-stooge??

No, but you know it’s only a matter of time. I wouldn’t be surprised if Jones himself came out and said that this guy was a paid disinfo agent to make his intrepid reporter look bad.

24 Kragar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:28:42am

re: #23 thedopefishlives

No, but you know it’s only a matter of time. I wouldn’t be surprised if Jones himself came out and said that this guy was a paid disinfo agent to make his intrepid reporter look bad.

I see what you’re trying to do, but you can’t make me check Infowars for you.

25 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:28:52am

re: #20 Kragar

Speaking of asshats…

Ron Paul: Government Response Scarier Than Boston Bombing

Daubenmire: Hunt For Boston Marathon Bomber Was a Dry Run for Martial Law

I am worried that should a major, unexpected catastrophe hit that really does entail martial law over a large area that it will set off all the crackpots who see it as a coup and takeover attempt.

And once one side starts shooting, the general climate is only going to lead to massive escalation.

26 thedopefishlives  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:29:31am

re: #24 Kragar

I see what you’re trying to do, but you can’t make me check Infowars for you.

I would never wish that on anyone. I think we should take up a collection from time to time for the people who take their hip waders into the cesspools of the Internet, like Infowars and #TGDN.

27 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:30:21am

re: #20 Kragar

“There was a day in America when we wouldn’t have sat around inside of our houses, hiding from a nineteen year old kid,” Daubermire declared, “but we would have grabbed our guns and gone to the street and found that young man ourselves.”

Yes, by all means, bring back lynch mobs. What glorious Constitution-venerating days those were. Exactly what the founders had in mind.

“If you live in a city,” he continued, “and you have any way that you possible can, find a place to move outside of the outer belt in your city”

As a person who lives in a city, I hope all of his audience follows his advice.

28 Kragar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:32:02am

Really CNN, this is what you’re going with?

CNN pretends tent on sidewalk is bombing suspect’s prison cell

CNN helped viewers visualize Boston bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev’s life in a 10-by-10-foot prison cell by pitching a small party tent outside Federal Medical Center Devens in Massachusetts on Monday.

Throughout the day, CNN anchor Wolf Blitzer returned to Don Lemon for live updates from the tent.

“We just happen to have a tent that’s 10 by 10,” Lemon explained.

29 jaunte  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:32:31am

re: #24 Kragar

“STATIST NAZI ASSAULTS INFOWARS REPORTER DAN BIDONDI AFTER BOMBING”
Image: Screen_shot_2013-04-29_at_1.30.41_PM.png

30 Cardio (formerly JRCMYP)  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:32:36am

I love how all the people standing around are *laughing.* That was beautiful.

31 thedopefishlives  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:33:10am

re: #28 Kragar

Really CNN, this is what you’re going with?

CNN pretends tent on sidewalk is bombing suspect’s prison cell

CNN: The spectacular fail never stops.

32 Kragar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:33:47am

re: #27 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Yes, by all means, bring back lynch mobs. What glorious Constitution-venerating days those were. Exactly what the founders had in mind.

Because there certainly was no misidentification of suspects from a variety of sources going on through out the course of the investigation or anything.
/

33 Targetpractice  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:35:08am

re: #28 Kragar

Really CNN, this is what you’re going with?

CNN pretends tent on sidewalk is bombing suspect’s prison cell

CNN, trying so hard to be Fox Lite.

34 Lidane  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:36:35am

re: #28 Kragar

Really CNN, this is what you’re going with?

CNN pretends tent on sidewalk is bombing suspect’s prison cell

I’m surprised they didn’t just rip off The Onion:

35 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:37:10am

I wonder what that guy’s lizard screen name is?

Fess up folks, which of you magnificent bastards took this Alex Jones sycophant on?

36 Kragar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:38:09am

re: #34 Lidane

I’m surprised they didn’t just rip off The Onion:

I work in a cubicle. I already know what its like living in a cell all damn day.
/

37 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:39:09am

re: #36 Kragar

I work in a cubicle. I already know what its like living in a cell all damn day.
/

I live inside my head.

It’s really dark in here.

38 Kragar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:39:42am

re: #37 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

I live inside my head.

It’s really dark in here.

Yeah, but at least you’re not alone.

39 DisturbedEma  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:41:17am

re: #23 thedopefishlives

I blame “reality” tv for the fact that it appears that spontanous moments that do not include asshts car surfing or animals getting it on have the default assumption of being staged.

I blame America’s Funniest Home videos for it as well…

40 Ian G.  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:41:42am

re: #27 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

As a person who lives in a city, I hope all of his audience follows his advice.

As someone who also lives in a city, I can tell you the paranoid, gun-toting, older white people who he is appealing to already fled the cities decades ago out of fear of teh black.

41 iossarian  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:41:57am

re: #19 jaunte

“OWN IT.”

That was my favorite aspect of the video. The name-calling is funny and obviously cathartic but the main thing is - these guys are ashamed of the shit they’re peddling. Forcing them to stand by their professed beliefs is a big thing.

42 Bulworth  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:42:50am

re: #31 thedopefishlives

CNN: The spectacular fail never stops.

Yeah, CNN has responded to its initial Boston Bombing coverage FAIL by doubling down. And if my half hour on the gym eliptical yesterday was any evidence, CNN must have some requirement to show the pictures of the bombers nonstop. Maybe they think we’ll forget what the dudes look like.

43 DisturbedEma  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:43:42am

re: #30 Cardio (formerly JRCMYP)

I noticed that as attention in real time…among the masses increased, the conviction ebbed quite a bit…”own in man” indeed! Funny how saying something in public in person, as opposed to banging away on a keyboard or cell phone isn’t all it’s cracked up to be hmmmmm

44 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:43:46am

re: #39 DisturbedEma

I blame “reality” tv for the fact that it appears that spontanous moments that do not include asshts car surfing or animals getting it on have the default assumption of being staged.

I blame America’s Funniest Home videos for it as well…

We’re all to blame.

We hate the images inside our head that don’t match what we experience, so we escape to fantasy where everybody is happy to be miserable.

45 Bulworth  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:43:55am

re: #4 Sol Berdinowitz

I cannot wait to see this spun as part of a left-wing conspiracy to suppress AJ’s right to free speech…

Confirmed. FACT. /

46 S'latch  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:44:36am

That was so awesome it made my eyes tear up. I love that.

47 engineer cat  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:44:38am

a cubicle is, in fact, a sensory deprivation environment

48 DisturbedEma  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:45:53am

re: #44 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

I just remember an interview shortly after AFV left the air- an assistant to the show explained that she had to leave her job because you could hear people coaching the action. Kids being put in danger on purpose to get the “shot”

I have to agree with you to some extent- just wish/hope for the best

49 Bulworth  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:47:29am

re: #29 jaunte

Is there a conspiracy theory that says the bombing was the work of the two Muslim guys AND the FBI? Seems it would have to be one or the other.

50 jaunte  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:47:38am

re: #41 iossarian

Bidondi stays uncomfortably quiet. I think Alex Jones would have responded loudly in the same situation (because he has the loud form of insanity).

51 jaunte  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:48:31am

re: #49 Bulworth

I think they can make any combination fit the conspiracy.

52 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:49:37am

re: #50 jaunte

Bidondi stays uncomfortably quiet. I think Alex Jones would have responded loudly in the same situation (because he has the loud form of insanity).

It would have become a yelling war.

53 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:50:06am

OT, but:

My baby sister got the internship she interviewed for! Huge thank you to all the Lizards who offered their advice on the biggest weakness question - it turns out it never came up in the interview, but having an answer planned out helped her feel confident and prepared which always helps.

I will belatedly offer major congrats to Obdicut’s brother as well! Being past that is the awesomest feeling ever, once it finally sinks in.

54 engineer cat  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:50:25am

re: #50 jaunte

Bidondi stays uncomfortably quiet. I think Alex Jones would have responded loudly in the same situation (because he has the loud form of insanity).

acting like a person w good manners and letting the other person finish talking is never a good strategy for moron wingnuts

55 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:51:03am

re: #49 Bulworth

Is there a conspiracy theory that says the bombing was the work of the two Muslim guys AND the FBI? Seems it would have to be one or the other.

The FBI used them as distractions planting fake bombs while agents planted the real ones.

56 jaunte  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:51:59am

re: #54 engineer cat

“Let me stop you right there.”
— Bill O’Reilly

57 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:52:06am

Islam itself is a false-front religion for Beelzebub, you know.

/

58 CreepyClown  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:54:20am

re: #13 wrenchwench

That guy was awesome and made great points to boot!!!

59 iossarian  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:54:26am

re: #52 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

It would have become a yelling war.

The Andrew Breitbart approach to debating.

Not good for your health apparently.

60 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:54:51am

re: #57 Sol Berdinowitz

Islam itself is a false-front religion for Beelzebub, you know.

/

I thought that was Scientology,,, or The Nation of Yahweh,,, or Nuwaubianism,
I’M SO CONFUSED !!!

61 Bulworth  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:55:40am
This is a terrific moment, as a Cambridge resident confronts Dan Bidondi, the Alex Jones stooge who disrupted press conferences about the Boston bombings with inane questions about “false flags.”

Oh, that guy. Good on the Bostonian for confronting him.

62 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:55:56am

re: #60 sattv4u2

I thought that was Scientology,,, or The Nation of Yahweh,,, or Nuwaubianism,
I’M SO CONFUSED !!!

Anything and everything except my particular denomination of fundamentalist Christianity.

/

63 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:56:13am

re: #58 CreepyClown

That guy was awesome and made great points to boot!!!

Are you new?

Like a shiny squirrel?

64 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:56:53am

re: #60 sattv4u2

I thought that was Scientology,,, or The Nation of Yahweh,,, or Nuwaubianism,
I’M SO CONFUSED !!!

We noticed that quite a while ago.

65 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:57:52am

re: #63 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Are you new?

Like a shiny squirrel?

I ain’t polishing it!

66 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:59:12am

re: #64 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

We noticed that quite a while ago.

The last one is really ,,, out there

Among some of their beliefs ,,,
1. It is important to bury the afterbirth so that Satan does not use it to make a duplicate of the recently-born child
2. Furthermore, some aborted fetuses survive their abortion to live in the sewers, where they are being gathered and organized to take over the world
3. People were once perfectly symmetrical and ambidextrous, but then a meteorite struck Earth and tilted its axis causing handedness and shifting the heart off-center in the chest
4. Each of us has seven clones living in different parts of the world
5. Women existed for many generations before they invented men through genetic manipulation
6. Homo sapiens is the result of cloning experiments that were done on Mars using Homo erectus
7. Nikola Tesla came from the planet Venus

67 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:59:28am

re: #65 sattv4u2

I ain’t polishing it!

Should we poke it with a stick? Just to be sure?

68 jaunte  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:59:36am

Another enjoyable video:

69 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:00:22pm

re: #66 sattv4u2

The last one is really ,,, out there

Among some of their beliefs ,,,
1. It is important to bury the afterbirth so that Satan does not use it to make a duplicate of the recently-born child
2. Furthermore, some aborted fetuses survive their abortion to live in the sewers, where they are being gathered and organized to take over the world
3. People were once perfectly symmetrical and ambidextrous, but then a meteorite struck Earth and tilted its axis causing handedness and shifting the heart off-center in the chest
4. Each of us has seven clones living in different parts of the world
5. Women existed for many generations before they invented men through genetic manipulation
6. Homo sapiens is the result of cloning experiments that were done on Mars using Homo erectus
7. Nikola Tesla came from the planet Venus

Where the F did you find this?

70 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:00:27pm

re: #67 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Should we poke it with a stick? Just to be sure?

I ain’t using MY stick!

71 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:01:03pm

re: #69 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Where the F did you find this?

It’s all in the Bible, you just have to know how to interpret it…

72 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:01:14pm

re: #70 sattv4u2

I ain’t using MY stick!

You have to, mine just broke.

73 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:01:15pm

re: #69 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Where the F did you find this?

Googled “Weird Religions”

It’s #1
Nuwaubianism
listverse.com

74 freetoken  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:02:06pm

re: #68 jaunte

Duncan the Lesser is more of an idiot than his father ever was.

75 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:02:52pm

re: #69 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

re: #73 sattv4u2

Googled “Weird Religions”

It’s #1
Nuwaubianism
listverse.com

I recall the story about them a couple of years back here in Georgia, their “home” base

76 CreepyClown  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:03:51pm

re: #63 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Yes. Don’t know what else to tell you except I only found out about this site today liked what I saw. I mean the other sites I went to are difficult to post on even though I agree with them. This site confused me at first, but now I think I get it. That’s why I joined.

77 freetoken  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:05:11pm

The NCSE joins in in the Post-Gazette story about teaching creationism in PA, but hones in on another issue in the story that I didn’t have time to cover:

Evolution in Pennsylvania

[…]


At the end of the presentations, the Post-Gazette noted, “a teacher in the audience submitted a written question asking … how a teacher can introduce creationism into the classroom without facing sanctions.” The answer, from the chief counsel from the Pennsylvania Family Institute, “which is spearheading the campaign for a Pennsylvania academic freedom bill,” was “There is a lot that a teacher can get away with in the classroom if you do it wisely and gently.”


[…]

These “academic freedom” bills are nothing but deception, as demonstrated here.

78 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:06:15pm

re: #73 sattv4u2

Googled “Weird Religions”

It’s #1
Nuwaubianism
listverse.com

The last flickering light in my head just went out.

79 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:06:27pm

re: #76 CreepyClown

This site confused me at first,

How so?

80 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:07:46pm

re: #78 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

The last flickering light in my head just went out.

81 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:09:22pm

re: #76 CreepyClown

Yes. Don’t know what else to tell you except I only found out about this site today liked what I saw. I mean the other sites I went to are difficult to post on even though I agree with them. This site confused me at first, but now I think I get it. That’s why I joined.

I have an avatar for you.

Image: killerklown.jpeg

82 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:11:04pm

re: #77 freetoken

The NCSE joins in in the Post-Gazette story about teaching creationism in PA, but hones in on another issue in the story that I didn’t have time to cover:

Evolution in Pennsylvania

These “academic freedom” bills are nothing but deception, as demonstrated here.

Can a teacher introduce spontaneous generation without facing sanctions?

83 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:11:21pm

re: #73 sattv4u2

Googled “Weird Religions”

It’s #1
Nuwaubianism
listverse.com

Even more wierdness at wiki:
en.wikipedia.org

84 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:13:03pm

re: #82 Sol Berdinowitz

Can a teacher introduce spontaneous generation without facing sanctions?

Ewww.

85 CreepyClown  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:13:34pm

re: #77 freetoken

This is so insane! Teaching our children about this nonsense is just that… nonsense. Where are our leaders on this? They talk a lot but nothing happens to stop this indoctrination. Seems to me it is happening everywhere.

86 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:14:37pm

and….they’re off and running!

87 freetoken  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:15:27pm

re: #85 CreepyClown

Where are our leaders on this?

Well, Bobby Jindal is all for creationism being taught in schools.

Marco Rubio, the anointed next GOP President, will deny any knowledge of how old the Earth is… unless really pressed, in which case he will deny denying any knowledge.

88 CreepyClown  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:17:06pm

re: #79 sattv4u2

I didn’t know how the comments showed up. Some sites I went to it took time I guess for my posts to show up and then people didn’t know what I was talking about. I guess joining a new blog takes time, but this one seemed like a new posts showed up soon.

89 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:17:28pm

re: #85 CreepyClown

This is so insane! Teaching our children about this nonsense is just that… nonsense. Where are our leaders on this? They talk a lot but nothing happens to stop this indoctrination. Seems to me it is happening everywhere.

Stick around, we have stories that will fill your bowl with popcorn, some that will fill your wings but strangely, most will simply curl your ruby slippers.

90 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:18:30pm

re: #87 freetoken

Well, Bobby Jindal is all for creationism being taught in schools.

Marco Rubio, the anointed next GOP President, will deny any knowledge of how old the Earth is… unless really pressed, in which case he will deny denying any knowledge.

He will however, stop to grab a quick shot of water.

91 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:19:05pm

re: #88 CreepyClown

I didn’t know how the comments showed up. Some sites I went to it took time I guess for my posts to show up and then people didn’t know what I was talking about. I guess joining a new blog takes time, but this one seemed like a new posts showed up soon.

Pretty much instantly.

92 Kragar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:19:09pm

Animal-Death Profiteering State Lawmaker Suggests Animal Rights Activists Are Like Rapists

A Tennessee lawmaker sponsoring a new bill shutting down animal cruelty investigations suggested animal rights activists were engaging in “tape and rape” tactics, and were “intent on using animals the same way human-traffickers use 17 year old women.” The representative in question, Andy Holt (R-Dresden), owns and operates a facility that raises pigs, cows, and goats for slaughter.

Holt’s outburst came in response to an email from Humane Society Public Policy Coordinator Kayci McCloud, in which McCloud asked Holt to reconsider his support for Tennessee’s recently passed “ag-gag” law. Ag-gag laws contain a variety of provisions (varying from law to law) designed to make it impossible for undercover investigators to document animal cruelty or unsafe farming conditions on farms like Holt’s. The Tennessee law Holt sponsored and pushed through the legislature accomplishes this end by forcing groups to turn over any documentary evidence of illegal activity on farms to the authorities within 48 hours, making it functionally impossible for them to put together a comprehensive case that could lead to arrests.

Holt responded viciously to McCloud’s inquiry, accusing the Humane Society of America — the country’s leading animal welfare organization, whose investigations have repeatedly led to pro-animal prosecutions and legislation — of functionally supporting the sexual abuse of animals:

93 Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:19:10pm

re: #88 CreepyClown

Some forums have active approval, meaning that a comment has to be approved before it’s shown. This one works more that if you wind up saying ludicrously dumb or offensive shit you’ll get banned.

And welcome, though your name makes me want to throw my monitor out the window.

94 engineer cat  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:19:39pm

5. Women existed for many generations before they invented men through genetic manipulation

no weirder than the people who tell me that it is a myth that women need men to reproduce since parthenogenesis in humans is real and the proof is that nuns sometimes get pregnant

95 thedopefishlives  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:20:15pm

re: #88 CreepyClown

I didn’t know how the comments showed up. Some sites I went to it took time I guess for my posts to show up and then people didn’t know what I was talking about. I guess joining a new blog takes time, but this one seemed like a new posts showed up soon.

Welcome aboard. Hope you enjoy your stay.

96 Kragar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:22:45pm

re: #93 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Some forums have active approval, meaning that a comment has to be approved before it’s shown. This one works more that if you wind up saying ludicrously dumb or offensive shit you’ll get banned.

And welcome, though your name makes me want to throw my monitor out the window.

Coulrophobia?

97 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:25:06pm

re: #93 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Some forums have active approval, meaning that a comment has to be approved before it’s shown. This one works more that if you wind up saying ludicrously dumb or offensive shit you’ll get banned.

But generally not before there’s a nice slow roasting of gamey backsides…

98 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:25:18pm

re: #85 CreepyClown

This is so insane! Teaching our children about this nonsense is just that… nonsense. Where are our leaders on this? They talk a lot but nothing happens to stop this indoctrination. Seems to me it is happening everywhere.

If a science teacher really wants to teach Creationism, they can volunteer to teach a Sunday School class at their local church. Or go to work for a church-sponsored school. Guaranteed sanction-free.

99 CreepyClown  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:26:04pm

re: #93 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Sorry about that! I just have a clown that plays Fur Elise out of its head on my desk so the name from came that. I also had a nightmare last night about creepy clowns, so I guess that clown needs to go.

100 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:26:11pm

re: #94 engineer cat

5. Women existed for many generations before they invented men through genetic manipulation

no weirder than the people who tell me that it is a myth that women need men to reproduce since parthenogenesis in humans is real and the proof is that nuns sometimes get pregnant

that would be called mirucals…

101 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:27:43pm

re: #94 engineer cat

5. Women existed for many generations before they invented men through genetic manipulation

no weirder than the people who tell me that it is a myth that women need men to reproduce since parthenogenesis in humans is real and the proof is that nuns sometimes get pregnant

I took a quick sideways glance at myself in my wife’s full length mirror yesterday on my way to the bedroom from taking a shower. I’m now positive that I’m pregnant.

102 freetoken  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:28:29pm

I’ve taken my eye off the Paleocreeps the past week… which is good for my mental health, but I just checked and noticed that PaleoPat had another full on anti-brown-people article a couple of days ago.

The article is titled “The Dark Side of Diversity”. The banner uses an abbreviated version of his last sentence: “Why are we bringing all of the world’s quarrelsome minorities into our home?”

Most of the article is an anti-Islam rant, with a long laundry list of the sins of Islamicists, real or imagined.

But then he concludes:

What benefit do we derive as a people to justify the risks we take by opening up America to mass migration from a world aflame with hatred and hostility over race, ethnicity, culture, history and faith?

Why are we bringing all of the world’s quarrelsome minorities, and all the world’s quarrels with them, into our home?

What we saw in Boston was the dark side of diversity.

See what he did there?

“Dark” == Islamic terror.
“Minorities” in this case become equated with Islamic terror, and “dark”ness.

It’s a welding together of racism with anti-Muslim under the guise of protecting America from terrorism.

This is the racist right at its word-smithing best.

103 GunstarGreen  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:28:43pm

re: #98 Sol Berdinowitz

If a science teacher really wants to teach Creationism, they can volunteer to teach a Sunday School class at their local church. Or go to work for a church-sponsored school. Guaranteed sanction-free.

But that fails to accomplish the objective of teaching dogma as basic, standard fact to all children.

If, however, the existence of such a teapot were affirmed in ancient books, taught as the sacred truth every Sunday, and instilled into the minds of children at school, hesitation to believe in its existence would become a mark of eccentricity and entitle the doubter to the attentions of the psychiatrist in an enlightened age or of the Inquisitor in an earlier time.

~Bertrand Russell

104 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:28:48pm

re: #99 CreepyClown

Sorry about that! I just have a clown that plays Fur Elise out of its head on my desk so the name from came that. I also had a nightmare last night about creepy clowns, so I guess that clown needs to go.

Not before you use the avatar I posted for you, I hope.

105 thedopefishlives  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:28:54pm

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

But generally not before there’s a nice slow roasting of gamey backsides…

Yes, our mysterious host has been unusually generous in allowing us to play with our food before cooking it over the last couple of weeks.

106 CreepyClown  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:28:54pm

re: #98 Sol Berdinowitz

Agreed. I simply do not understand how teachers who claim to understand science think it’s okay to teach unfounded and unscientific information to kids! It makes no sense and is hurting our children as well.

108 CreepyClown  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:30:50pm

re: #104 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

I clicked and liked it, but don’t know how to make it an avatar.

109 Kragar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:30:58pm

I’m deeply disturbed by the pro-biblical bent to creationism, while mention of humanity being the byproduct of experimentation by the Elder Things during their development of the Shoggoths, or the opposing theory that humans were in fact spawn of Abhoth who escaped being reabsorbed into his primordial mass, has been pushed aside by a group of people pushing 2 thousand year old farmer’s tales.

Teach the Controversy.

110 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:30:59pm

My new PC after my old one blew up yesterday

frys.com

111 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:32:32pm

re: #106 CreepyClown

Agreed. I simply do not understand how teachers who claim to understand science think it’s okay to teach unfounded and unscientific information to kids! It makes no sense and is hurting our children as well.

For the same reason Ayn Rand inspired Paulian libertarian economics will never work, the horrible chemical mess that is our evolved brain.

112 engineer cat  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:34:14pm

Ron Paul: Government Response Scarier Than Boston Bombing

i suppose the libertarian approach would be to let free market forces investigate the bombing and capture the suspects?

113 freetoken  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:36:03pm

Speaking of paleocreeps, I see that Matt Drudge is getting some luv these days from the VDARE crowd.

That should tell you something about Matt Drudge.

114 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:36:11pm

re: #77 freetoken

The NCSE joins in in the Post-Gazette story about teaching creationism in PA, but hones in on another issue in the story that I didn’t have time to cover:

Evolution in Pennsylvania

These “academic freedom” bills are nothing but deception, as demonstrated here.

The Pennsylvania Family Institute is officially non-partisan, but they are yet another religious, pro-traditional marriage organization. Their website contains this doozy of a document, essentially inviting churches to break the law at election time.

115 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:36:42pm

re: #110 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

My new PC after my old one blew up yesterday

frys.com

Too much power for you, you’ll never be able to handle it.

I’ll tell you what, since I’m an old hand at handling overpowered systems, I’ll trade you my Phenom X6 system for that one. The AMD system is better suited for a young person like yourself.

I’ll email you my address and you can ship it. Once I get it I’ll use the same box to ship you the Phenom system.

116 jaunte  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:36:47pm

re: #112 engineer cat

The free market forces would have captured a lot more suspects, you betcha.

117 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:37:46pm

re: #113 freetoken

The only time I ever went to his website was in college, during the Super Bowl with Justin Timberlake and Janet Jackson. I missed what actually happened because I was working on calculus homework and he had the first summary up.

His website design was atrocious by the standards then.

118 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:37:59pm

re: #116 jaunte

The free market forces would have captured a lot more suspects, you betcha.

All the usual suspects, I’m sure.

119 jaunte  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:38:47pm

re: #118 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Step 2. Hold for ransom

Step 3. Profit!

120 CreepyClown  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:39:19pm

re: #109 Kragar

LOL! Lovecraft is as close to reality as creationists will ever come.

121 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:39:31pm

re: #119 jaunte

Step 2. Hold for ransom ??????

Step 3. Profit!

FTFY. Never let on the plan.

122 engineer cat  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:39:35pm

re: #116 jaunte

The free market forces would have captured a lot more suspects, you betcha.

do i get to sell them as slaves if they aren’t convicted?

123 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:39:52pm

re: #117 klys

The only time I ever went to his website was in college, during the Super Bowl with Justin Timberlake and Janet Jackson. I missed what actually happened because I was working on calculus homework and he had the first summary up.

His website design was atrocious by the standards then.

Did you just say the ‘C’ word? Really?

Not nice!

124 jaunte  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:39:59pm

re: #121 klys

Somalia shows the way.

125 jaunte  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:40:53pm

Meeting. AFK for now.

126 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:41:34pm

re: #123 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Did you just say the ‘C’ word? Really?

Not nice!

Which one, calculus or college?

Calc 2 represents the only time I ever calculated my grade during the final exam and realized there was no way in hell I could get an A. And I needed over an 80 to get a B.

Thankfully I pulled off the B.

127 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:43:24pm

re: #115 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Too much power for you, you’ll never be able to handle it.

I’ll tell you what, since I’m an old hand at handling overpowered systems, I’ll trade you my Phenom X6 system for that one. The AMD system is better suited for a young person like yourself.

I’ll email you my address and you can ship it. Once I get it I’ll use the same box to ship you the Phenom system.

ROFL. Believe me I can handle TEH POWER!

128 Kragar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:43:52pm

re: #120 CreepyClown

LOL! Lovecraft is as close to reality as creationists will ever come.

I like you. You may stay for a bit.

129 engineer cat  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:44:20pm

re: #126 klys

Thankfully I pulled off the B.

you’re not supposed to pull it off. put it back on

130 freetoken  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:44:45pm

Speaking of paleocreeps, again, I learn courtesy of Chuck Baldwin that one of the cheif atavists died a week ago - Howard Phillips.

Who was Howard Phillips?

Well, when Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon are too liberal for you, then you’re in Howard Phillips territory.

A Christian Reconstructionist, he wrote an entry in Judicial Tyranny: The New Kings of America?, part of the religious far right stew that brought us TYRANTS IN BLACK ROBES!! a la Rick Perry.

Will I dance on Howard Phillips’ grave? No, there is no dancing to be had. We’re just better off without him.

131 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:44:50pm

re: #126 klys

Which one, calculus or college?

Calc 2 represents the only time I ever calculated my grade during the final exam and realized there was no way in hell I could get an A. And I needed over an 80 to get a B.

Thankfully I pulled off the B.

You said it again, twice.

You’re trying to terrify me aren’t you?

132 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:45:11pm

re: #129 engineer cat

you’re not supposed to pull it off. put it back on

*glues a B to the cat*

133 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:45:32pm

re: #131 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

You said it again, twice.

You’re trying to terrify me aren’t you?

Just wait until we get to differential equations.

134 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:46:35pm

re: #129 engineer cat

you’re not supposed to pull it off. put it back on

See, she’s talking about pulling me off, and using the ‘C’ word. She’s out to destroy me. I just know it.

135 Kragar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:47:15pm

I was a B-/C+ student in algebra, but got As in geometry, Trig and Calc.

Go figure.

136 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:47:47pm

re: #134 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

See, she’s talking about pulling me off, and using the ‘C’ word. She’s out to destroy me. I just know it.

You know what you get if you sharp a B?

A C!!!

137 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:47:54pm

re: #133 klys

Just wait until we get to differential equations.

Nooo!

I can feel myself shaking.

138 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:48:25pm

re: #135 Kragar

I was a B-/C+ student in algebra, but got As in geometry, Trig and Calc.

Go figure.

I crushed Geometry and Trigonometry but never quite caught ahold of Algebra (darn you, quadratic equations!)

139 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:49:05pm

re: #135 Kragar

I was a B-/C+ student in algebra, but got As in geometry, Trig and Calc.

Go figure.

I have an issue with the math II classes, apparently. Fine in algebra I, sucked in algebra II. Fine in calc I, sucked in calc II. Calc III just being calc I in 3D, that was fine.

I only did diffeq I. I figured I should stop while ahead.

140 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:49:15pm

re: #136 klys

You know what you get if you sharp a B?

A C!!!

You know what mark I got in Calc 2?

A ‘C’!!!

141 thedopefishlives  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:49:39pm

I was a math head. I tested out of two semesters of college calc after nailing the AP Calc test. You may abuse me now.

142 Kragar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:49:44pm

Fox News on Beck’s leaving: “No good deed goes unpunished.”

“Glenn Beck wasn’t trying to save his soul, he was trying to save his ass,” a Fox News spokesperson told Allen in an email. “Advertisers fled his show and even Glenn knows what that means in our industry. Yet, we still tried to give him a soft landing. Guess no good deed goes unpunished.”

For the record, that’s the first official acknowledgment that Fox News really felt the advertiser boycott launched in part by the activist group Color of Change.

For months on end, activists pelted Beck’s advertisers with tens of thousands of letters, emails and phone calls complaining about the host’s racist rhetoric that hundreds of companies backed away. Beck saw so many advertisers flee from his program during that period, his show actually ran without any ads at all in the U.K. for a time.

143 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:50:41pm

re: #141 thedopefishlives

I was a math head. I tested out of two semesters of college calc after nailing the AP Calc test. You may abuse me now.

I really, really hate you.

I failed my first go at Calc 2.

144 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:51:21pm

re: #140 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

You know what mark I got in Calc 2?

A ‘C’!!!

I am convinced calc 2 is of the devil.

re: #141 thedopefishlives

I was a math head. I tested out of two semesters of college calc after nailing the AP Calc test. You may abuse me now.

Getting to calc 2 in high school required taking additional evening classes at the point I went, and circumstances meant I couldn’t. It sucks. I probably would have understood it far better with the teacher I had in high school than the guy I took it under in college.

145 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:51:23pm

re: #133 klys

Just wait until we get to differential equations.

I used to solve differential equations just for fun.
yep…I was a laugh riot to be around in high school…

146 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:52:25pm

re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth

I used to solve differential equations just for fun.
yep…I was a laugh riot to be around in high school…

They are kind of fun.

I preferred redox reactions, though.

147 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:54:23pm

I don’t like you guys any more.

All I was ever good at was Phil, Logic, Psych, Sleeping and Linear.

148 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:55:23pm

re: #147 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

I don’t like you guys any more.

All I was ever good at was Phil, Logic, Sleeping and Linear.

Awww… But we still like you!

149 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:56:10pm

re: #146 klys

They are kind of fun.

I preferred redox reactions, though.

I misread that as redbox reactions and wondered what the hell you were talking about.

150 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:56:38pm

re: #148 klys

Awww… But we still like you!

Sometimes I feel like the token stupid guy around here. :(

151 engineer cat  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:57:06pm

re: #132 klys

*glues a B to the cat*

now i get to have a spot on ‘stuff on my cat’!!!

152 wrenchwench  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:57:27pm

re: #110 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

My new PC after my old one blew up yesterday

frys.com

Ouch. That’s a very expensive future paperweight.

153 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 12:58:18pm

re: #150 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Sometimes I feel like the token stupid guy around here. :(

How can you be stupid? You like logic and critical thinking.

Math is no indication of intelligence. Just a brain that works well with numbers.

154 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:00:09pm

re: #152 wrenchwench

Ouch. That’s a very expensive future paperweight.

If it lasts me 6+ years I’ll be happy. I game a lot plus I work from home a few days a week so I need a beefy system.

155 engineer cat  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:00:26pm

re: #152 wrenchwench

Ouch. That’s a very expensive future paperweight.

the specs say it’s very gamey

156 thedopefishlives  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:00:40pm

re: #143 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

I really, really hate you.

I failed my first go at Calc 2.

My sister hates me too. She didn’t even get to Calculus and was barely able to waddle through enough algebra to pass remedial college math. But she’s definitely brilliant in areas I’m not.

157 taserian  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:02:07pm

re: #126 klys

I had a great Calc 2 professor. After not doing well in the first exam, suddenly everything clicked for me, and I started improving substantially. Because of that first exam, though, I was only eligible for a B, with a non-comfortable probability that I could get a C.

But because he noticed my improvement, as well as my turning in a perfect final exam, I actually got an A.

158 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:02:35pm

re: #155 engineer cat

It is insanely fast for just about everything. The only downside was Windows 8 but I have that figured out so not as big of a problem as I first thought.

159 wrenchwench  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:03:03pm

re: #157 taserian

I had a great Calc 2 professor. After not doing well in the first exam, suddenly everything clicked for me, and I started improving substantially. Because of that first exam, though, I was only eligible for a B, with a non-comfortable probability that I could get a C.

But because he noticed my improvement, as well as my turning in a perfect final exam, I actually got an A.

Walking Spanish Down the Hall hates you.

160 Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:03:09pm

re: #154 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

If it lasts me 6+ years I’ll be happy. I game a lot plus I work from home a few days a week so I need a beefy system.

That’s a good video card. I build my computers myself, but that one is actually not vastly overpriced for the components.

My only real problem with it is that it comes with Win8

161 Skip Intro  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:03:32pm

re: #152 wrenchwench

Ouch. That’s a very expensive future paperweight.

Ask me sometime how much I paid for my Compaq 286 back in the day, or better yet, my Apple II +, or better, better yet how much I paid for 4 megabytes of ram for the Compaq.

162 Kragar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:04:37pm

ESPN sportscaster says Jason Collins is ‘in open rebellion to God,’ incapable of being Christian

And in case you didn’t realize, Mr. Broussard is actually God’s spokesperson. That’s actually one of the Lord’s mysterious ways: he uses sports pundits to push his condemnations. Sorry about that, Christian Bible Network anchors and reports. Better luck the next time heaven’s assignment desk doles out the duties.

163 abolitionist  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:05:37pm

re: #127 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

There was a line in the movie Hackers, where the in-group was ragging on a newby about his new laptop that featured a super-fast 33KBaud modem —something like “You can’t handle that much power.”

164 Bulworth  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:05:43pm
The Pennsylvania Family Institute is officially non-partisan, but they are yet another religious, pro-traditional marriage organization. Their website
contains this doozy of a document,
essentially inviting churches to break the law at election time.

Yeah but no matter how stone-age their organization is, it has the word “family” in it, which means it’s all around Murican and wholesome. //

165 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:05:53pm

re: #160 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Yeah it’s a beautiful rig that will definitely get put to the test.

166 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:06:34pm

re: #163 abolitionist

There was a line in the movie Hackers, where the in-group was ragging on a newby about his new laptop that featured a super-fast 33KBaud modem —something like “You can’t handle that much power.”

I remember that movie/quote. Hard to believe that 33KBaud was top of the line once.

167 Kragar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:08:45pm

re: #166 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I remember that movie/quote. Hard to believe that 33KBaud was top of the line once.

Remember when you could make a disk double sided by punching a hole in it and flipping it over?

MIND BLOWN!

168 iossarian  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:09:57pm

re: #167 Kragar

Remember when you could make a disk double sided by punching a hole in it and flipping it over?

MIND BLOWN!

Dude, I used to fine-tune the treble balance on the hi-fi to get my ZX-81 to load from tape.

169 wrenchwench  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:10:06pm

re: #165 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Yeah it’s a beautiful rig that will definitely get put to the test.

I need a little-old-lady computer, just to drive to LGF on Sundays (and the other days that end in ‘y’) and do some minor bookkeeping, make a few sale signs, etc. ‘Gaming’ to me is solitaire. I’ve decided I can get by with a laptop. Got one for home in December for $400. Win 8 seems like it adds a useless layer, but otherwise doesn’t get in the way.

170 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:10:31pm

re: #162 Kragar

ESPN sportscaster says Jason Collins is ‘in open rebellion to God,’ incapable of being Christian

He is probably the first of many to express such sentiments. That’s the risk Collins took when he was one of the first to come out.

171 efuseakay  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:10:48pm

re: #41 iossarian

That was my favorite aspect of the video. The name-calling is funny and obviously cathartic but the main thing is - these guys are ashamed of the shit they’re peddling. Forcing them to stand by their professed beliefs is a big thing.

Force them to stand by their beliefs in public, and not behind a keyboard, or in a meeting room amongst each other.

They never do.

172 Bulworth  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:10:51pm

re: #162 Kragar

ESPN sportscaster says Jason Collins is ‘in open rebellion to God,’ incapable of being Christian

There may be no limit to the pile of derp that piles up in response to an openly teh gay athlete.

173 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:11:27pm

re: #166 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I remember that movie/quote. Hard to believe that 33KBaud was top of the line once.

The first time I ever got online (in 1996) it was with a 14.4 modem.

174 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:11:34pm

re: #169 wrenchwench

I need a little-old-lady computer, just to drive to LGF on Sundays (and the other days that end in ‘y’) and do some minor bookkeeping, make a few sale signs, etc. ‘Gaming’ to me is solitaire. I’ve decided I can get by with a laptop. Got one for home in December for $400. Win 8 seems like it adds a useless layer, but otherwise doesn’t get in the way.

My annoyance with 8 was more that the “Start Screen” looks like something vomitted in 8 bit on my monitor. Now that i have that screen configured and have my desktop setup it’s tolerable.

175 Bulworth  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:11:37pm

re: #170 Eclectic Cyborg

Be prepared for much more derp than this derp. The derp cannot be quenched.

176 engineer cat  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:12:35pm

Calc 2

i understood calc 1

calc 2, not so much

177 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:13:27pm

re: #172 Bulworth

There may be no limit to the pile of derp that piles up in response to an openly teh gay athlete.

And let me say for the record I would have no problem sharing a locker room with a gay teammate. I don’t give any thought to “oh what if he’s checking me out?”, etc. because 1. I don’t care and 2. If I were approached by a gay man, I would simply thank him for the interest but say that I am straight. Gay people are usually smart enough to figure out who else is playing their side of the field. I don’t think too many straight men have been victims of romantic passes by gays.

178 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:13:34pm

re: #163 abolitionist

There was a line in the movie Hackers, where the in-group was ragging on a newby about his new laptop that featured a super-fast 33KBaud modem —something like “You can’t handle that much power.”

gosh…I still remember how excited I was when 1200 baud modems became available…

179 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:14:19pm

re: #178 Backwoods_Sleuth

gosh…I still remember how excited I was when 1200 baud modems became available…

I remember how cool it was listening to my first audio CD.

180 iossarian  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:14:38pm

laterz all

181 Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:15:17pm

re: #177 Eclectic Cyborg

We had a few gay guys in the kickboxing club back in Chicago. Who fucking cares? Even if a gay guy does check you out— welcome to like 85% of women’s lives. Sheesh.

182 Kragar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:15:42pm

re: #175 Bulworth

Be prepared for much more derp than this derp. The derp cannot be quenched.

“I want the derp.”

“YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE DERP! WE USE WORDS LIKE NOBAMA, DEATH PANELS AND TEH GHEY WITH RESPECT. YOU USE THEM LIKE A PUNCHLINE!”

183 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:16:00pm

re: #179 Eclectic Cyborg

I remember how cool it was listening to my first audio CD.

and I remember how floppy disks were like a MAJOR breakthrough improvement over tape…

184 Lidane  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:16:24pm

*sigh*

185 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:16:35pm

LOL I had to wait until I came home from work to watch this. Totally worth the wait. CLASSIC.

186 abolitionist  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:17:34pm

re: #168 iossarian

Dude, I used to fine-tune the treble balance on the hi-fi to get my ZX-81 to load from tape.

I used a pair of diodes (oppositely oriented) in series with a resistor in order to “re-shape” the waveform in a way that made the data much more reliable. Having an oscilloscope helped with that, and the ‘scope doubled as a 32-character terminal display (using a teeny bit of hardware and software).

187 taserian  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:17:46pm

re: #173 Eclectic Cyborg

Try 2400 here. Man, those were the days (not).

Heck, an old friend of my father’s purchased one of these for way more than it was worth, believing it to be a full-fledged computer; when we told him it wasn’t, he gave it to me. It had a switch to set the speed for either 110 or 300 baud. Now that was un-speed!

188 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:18:28pm

re: #86 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s false flags all the way down.

189 Mattand  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:18:48pm

re: #184 Lidane

*sigh*

190 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:18:56pm

DERP
Came home to find this waiting for me & b_sharp.

191 kirkspencer  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:19:48pm

re: #174 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

My annoyance with 8 was more that the “Start Screen” looks like something vomitted in 8 bit on my monitor. Now that i have that screen configured and have my desktop setup it’s tolerable.

As I’ve said a time or two, I like 8. Once I figured out how to make a proper touchpad, I even find the start screen useful for the most part.

192 engineer cat  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:20:18pm

re: #183 Backwoods_Sleuth

and I remember how floppy disks were like a MAJOR breakthrough improvement over tape…

i do recall that i submitted exactly one (1) punchcard program

24 hr turnaround even to find out if you had a compile error

193 efuseakay  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:20:32pm

re: #184 Lidane

*sigh*

Yes Ben… and even with our “low standards”, you still couldn’t shine a candle to someone like Mr. Collins.

194 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:21:13pm

re: #191 kirkspencer

As I’ve said a time or two, I like 8. Once I figured out how to make a proper touchpad, I even find the start screen useful for the most part.

Win8 is designed for use with touchscreens.

Unfortunately, Microsoft forgot that MOST OF US DON’T HAVE THOSE YET. And nor do I want one on my desktop.

Fortunately I have enough Win7 licenses to last for a few years yet.

195 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:21:23pm

heh…

196 ProBosniaLiberal  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:21:39pm

re: #102 freetoken

Sadly, I hear this at home from my Dad. All the time.

197 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:22:00pm

re: #189 Mattand

Rather odd that he’s the arbiter of heroism.

Kinda like those idiots who think the Medal of Honor is somehow dishonored by giving it to medics or those engaged in rescue operations and not for killing the enemy with their bare hands, with guns wrestled away from the enemy, or falling on grenades etc.

198 jaunte  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:23:01pm

re: #189 Mattand

As if no one in the Normandy invasion was gay.

199 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:23:45pm

re: #198 jaunte

As if no one in the Normandy invasion was gay.

Well, duh. Homosexuality is this new-fangled thing that just shows how morally degenerate our society has become.

//

200 Kragar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:24:43pm

Limbaugh agrees with listeners: Liberals kill in ‘mass numbers’ like jihadis

“Now the comparison here with jihadis and liberals, I understand it, but the one thing the liberals don’t do is order mass killings,” he continued. “I don’t want to let that stand. I know you’re talking about the mind, I know you’re talking about the requirement that everybody must follow the right path or else they’re going to be excommunicated or discharged or what have you. I get the point.”

But after the commercial break, Limbaugh noted that he had gotten a “deluge” of email that had caused him to rethink his defense of liberalism.

“Many of you people out there think that nobody ever disagrees with me because there would be no point,” he explained. “Ah, but you would be wrong in this case. I am in the midst of a deluge of email from people who say, ‘Rush you’re not thinking. When you say that liberalism doesn’t kill people in mass numbers, you’re not thinking.’”

“And I have to say, they have a point.”

The top of their heads doesn’t count, Rush.

201 Lidane  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:25:45pm

re: #198 jaunte

As if no one in the Normandy invasion was gay.

UNPOSSIBLE! Everyone storming the beaches of Normandy was a shining example of hetero male machismo and testosterone.

202 blueraven  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:25:46pm

Possible entertainment tonight for nerds and political junkies (or those who are simply fascinated with train-wrecks)…Elizabeth Colbert-Busch - Mark Sanford debate. live stream at 7pm ET

scetv.org

203 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:26:05pm

re: #192 engineer cat

i do recall that i submitted exactly one (1) punchcard program

24 hr turnaround even to find out if you had a compile error

I did a punchcard program back in the late 60s as part of a high school project.
Who knew those massive computers had sooooo many lights that would start flashing maniacally whilst it spit punchcards all over the room?

204 Bulworth  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:26:25pm

re: #190 Vicious Babushka

Confirmed. FACT. /

So this is the derp now? It used to be about the ‘delay’ in calling the attack ‘terrorism’.

205 leftynyc  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:27:29pm

re: #189 Mattand

While I have “issues” with the website I’m linking to (nothing computer related), this post shows Shapiro has a weird definition of hero:

mediaite.com

206 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:27:46pm

re: #204 Bulworth

Confirmed. FACT. /

So this is the derp now? It used to be about the ‘delay’ in calling the attack ‘terrorism’.

IT’S ALREADY PROVEN SO I DON’T HAVE TO PROVE ANYTHING!!!11!! U LIBRUL TROLL, U JUST BELIEVE EVERYTHING U SEE ON MSM!!11 #OPSLAM

207 Bulworth  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:27:54pm
I know you’re talking about the requirement that everybody must follow the right path or else they’re going to be excommunicated or discharged or what have you. I get the point.”

Um, what kind of group ‘excommunicates’ people, Rush? I’ll wait for your answer.

208 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:27:57pm

re: #198 jaunte

As if no one in the Normandy invasion was gay.

and Normandy is so close to Gay Paree! Almost neighbors if ya think on a global scale!

209 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:30:21pm

re: #206 Vicious Babushka

There’s a real gap between what the far right believes facts to be and what we believe are facts. (I’m not going to mention the weird shit going on in the heads of the far left)

210 Mattand  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:30:58pm

re: #200 Kragar

On the bright side, they got the “Rush, you’re not thinking” part correct.

211 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:31:15pm

re: #209 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

There’s a real gap between what the far right believes facts to be and what we believe are facts. (I’m not going to mention the weird shit going on in the heads of the far left)

Fixed.

212 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:31:49pm

well, this is interesting. How much spare time do these people have on their hands to come up with this stuff?
Never mind….

213 kirkspencer  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:32:00pm

re: #194 klys

Win8 is designed for use with touchscreens.

Unfortunately, Microsoft forgot that MOST OF US DON’T HAVE THOSE YET. And nor do I want one on my desktop.

Fortunately I have enough Win7 licenses to last for a few years yet.

Yes it is, and yes most of us don’t, today, on our desktops.

Thing is I don’t think desktops are going to be common choices for most users within a handful of years. And I think between kinect and leap motion, de facto touchscreens are going to be common for the desktops that are left.

I think that Microsoft had a window of opportunity where it could lead into that future, setting standards by its very size, or it could follow. For a change, it led.

Where I suspect this whole thing’s going to get real interesting is when the Bay Trail Atoms come out. Not for the obvious reason (a tablet chip that’ll handle 64 bit). No, but because it’ll mean the Clover Trails will drop a lot in price, leading to what I call $200 tablets. Probably a bit more, but still extremely inexpensive but solid non-cutting edge tablets.

214 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:36:08pm

How dumb are wingnuts?

They are retweeting SPAMBOTS.

215 GunstarGreen  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:36:11pm

re: #213 kirkspencer

The average person no longer has any need for a dedicated computing device, because their smartphone does everything that they would ever use a dedicated computer for. Win8 was designed as a smartphone OS that also happens to run on PCs.

216 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:36:15pm

re: #213 kirkspencer

Yes it is, and yes most of us don’t, today, on our desktops.

Thing is I don’t think desktops are going to be common choices for most users within a handful of years. And I think between kinect and leap motion, de facto touchscreens are going to be common for the desktops that are left.

I think that Microsoft had a window of opportunity where it could lead into that future, setting standards by its very size, or it could follow. For a change, it led.

Where I suspect this whole thing’s going to get real interesting is when the Bay Trail Atoms come out. Not for the obvious reason (a tablet chip that’ll handle 64 bit). No, but because it’ll mean the Clover Trails will drop a lot in price, leading to what I call $200 tablets. Probably a bit more, but still extremely inexpensive but solid non-cutting edge tablets.

I think that, while it’s possible to make this argument for casual interaction, desktops are still going to stick around for a wide variety of uses. From a productivity standpoint, there’s a lot to be said for mouse manipulation. Touchscreens aren’t accurate enough yet to replicate that.

217 Kragar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:36:48pm

re: #214 Vicious Babushka

How dumb are wingnuts?

They are retweeting SPAMBOTS.

Why bother with spambots when you can just have wingnuts do it for you?
///

218 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:36:49pm

re: #213 kirkspencer

Yes it is, and yes most of us don’t, today, on our desktops.

Thing is I don’t think desktops are going to be common choices for most users within a handful of years. And I think between kinect and leap motion, de facto touchscreens are going to be common for the desktops that are left.

I think that Microsoft had a window of opportunity where it could lead into that future, setting standards by its very size, or it could follow. For a change, it led.

Where I suspect this whole thing’s going to get real interesting is when the Bay Trail Atoms come out. Not for the obvious reason (a tablet chip that’ll handle 64 bit). No, but because it’ll mean the Clover Trails will drop a lot in price, leading to what I call $200 tablets. Probably a bit more, but still extremely inexpensive but solid non-cutting edge tablets.

Touchscreen computers are uncomfortable to use for any length of time, and typing on a tablet sucks because the onscreen keyboard takes up too much room.

Even Microsoft advertises their tablets with external keyboards shown. Not much of an advantage to moving your hand to the screen over moving it to a mouse.

219 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:36:58pm

re: #194 klys

I had tried to get the new machine to boot from my old Hard drive that had Win 7 on it but apparently when the other machine decided to die out it may have corrupted something in the boot up because my new Machine won’t do it.

I could uninstall Windows 8, format the drive and install Vista then run the upgrade to 7 but at this point I have 8 running and configured the way I want it, I’ve copied over most of the stuff I need from the old drive, now I just need to tweak a few more things and it’ll all be good.

220 freetoken  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:38:24pm

re: #218 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Agree. And the abandonment of any type of input that is tactile - keyboard or writing instrument, is a step backwards for many operations.

221 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:38:25pm

Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux, …

222 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:38:29pm

re: #219 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I had tried to get the new machine to boot from my old Hard drive that had Win 7 on it but apparently when the other machine decided to die out it may have corrupted something in the boot up because my new Machine won’t do it.

I could uninstall Windows 8, format the drive and install Vista then run the upgrade to 7 but at this point I have 8 running and configured the way I want it, I’ve copied over most of the stuff I need from the old drive, now I just need to tweak a few more things and it’ll all be good.

Yeah, my husband has it running on his desktop and is fairly happy with it (had to switch at work and so is fairly used to it) and I admit there are some features that are extremely tempting.

But I hate the start screen with the fiery passion of a billion suns. So.

223 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:38:56pm

BRYAN’S SEEKRIT IDENTICAL TWIN SEPARATED AT BIRTH IS A GAY MUSLIM

224 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:39:42pm

re: #218 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Touchscreen computers are uncomfortable to use for any length of time, and typing on a tablet sucks because the onscreen keyboard takes up too much room.

Even Microsoft advertises their tablets with external keyboards shown. Not much of an advantage to moving your hand to the screen over moving it to a mouse.

I will say, the external keyboard is one of the most attractive features of their tablet and turns the Surface Pro into a serious contender for my next laptop/travel thing. I’ve typed on the raised one and it’s no worse than a standard laptop keyboard - no adaptation required.

225 freetoken  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:40:00pm

Having said that, PC sales did decline last quarter, which got a lot of attention in some press. Hard to tell if that is the start of a trend or not, but I do think global saturation is at hand.

Sure, there are many people in the world without personal computers. And, they’ll probably never have one, as these same people are too poor and may even live in areas without electricity.

226 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:40:28pm

re: #222 klys

Yeah, my husband has it running on his desktop and is fairly happy with it (had to switch at work and so is fairly used to it) and I admit there are some features that are extremely tempting.

But I hate the start screen with the fiery passion of a billion suns. So.

I use Start8 and I never see the MS Win 8 startup screen.

227 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:40:42pm

re: #222 klys

I hate the start screen too, but I can deal with it now that I have it customized. It just took me a bit to get used to navigating through the drive and using explorer. I was kinda annoyed that all the apps that came with it seem to really require a touch screen unless one wants to be overly frustrated but in the end I don’t use those much anyway.

228 GunstarGreen  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:40:56pm

re: #223 Vicious Babushka

That would be relevant if DNA determined everything. It does not. Identical twins do not always have the same personalities, even when raised in the same environment. This is, however, also irrelevant: It doesn’t matter whether people are ‘born that way’ or not. There is no justification for discrimination.

229 Lidane  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:41:04pm

OUTRAGE!

230 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:41:15pm

re: #223 Vicious Babushka

BRYAN’S SEEKRIT IDENTICAL TWIN SEPARATED AT BIRTH IS A GAY MUSLIM

Argh. Whenever I hear this argument, I want to ask the person when they decided to be straight.

231 wrenchwench  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:41:49pm

re: #223 Vicious Babushka

BRYAN’S SEEKRIT IDENTICAL TWIN SEPARATED AT BIRTH IS A GAY MUSLIM

Jason Collins’s IDENTICAL TWIN BROTHER SAME DNA!!!1 was 3 ounces heavier at birth. OMG!

232 Kragar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:42:37pm

re: #223 Vicious Babushka

BRYAN’S SEEKRIT IDENTICAL TWIN SEPARATED AT BIRTH IS A GAY MUSLIM

Because everyone knows twins are exactly the same person down to every single thought, molecule and gene.

233 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:42:58pm

I just watched one of the kitties sneeze. It was kind of adorable and hysterical at the same time.

234 Cap'n Magic  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:43:05pm

Alex Jones is a grifting carny for the conspiracy whackbags who uses select past unsavory US clandestine operations, takes UN publications out of context, and makes a living off of the dead and damaged caused by the US Government, all while pearl-clutching at the same time.

Uh, Alex, y’know what your problem is, dude? The answer is right in front of you when you stand a look in a mirror.

235 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:43:13pm

re: #163 abolitionist

There was a line in the movie Hackers, where the in-group was ragging on a newby about his new laptop that featured a super-fast 33KBaud modem —something like “You can’t handle that much power.”

Let me introduce you to my 300 baud accoustic coupler connected teletype. Delightful old beast for talking to a vaxen at the university from my Jr. High School… ;)

236 Amory Blaine  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:43:15pm

Excellent video. I hope he inspires others.

237 Stanley Sea  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:43:48pm

re: #229 Lidane

OUTRAGE!

AWESOME!

238 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:44:07pm

re: #225 freetoken

Not sure if it signals a trend. For all intents and purposes I think PC’s will be around for some time to come given that gaming is huge and really does require a KB/Mouse. The only place I have seen tablets be really useful is in retail.

For example the vape shop I go to for e-cig juices and such use iPads with an app and card reader to process sales. It makes it more convenient so you don’t necessarily have to wait in line for one of their 2 actual registers.

239 ProBosniaLiberal  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:44:27pm

re: #229 Lidane

Oh, tonight is going to be insufferable.

240 Bulworth  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:45:30pm

re: #223 Vicious Babushka

BRYAN’S SEEKRIT IDENTICAL TWIN SEPARATED AT BIRTH IS A GAY MUSLIM

Thanks, Bryan. Your derp never lets me down.

241 Bulworth  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:46:56pm

re: #223 Vicious Babushka

I don’t think the wingnut creationist right really wants to have a discussion about DNA, does it?

242 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:47:02pm

re: #130 freetoken

Speaking of paleocreeps, again, I learn courtesy of Chuck Baldwin that one of the cheif atavists died a week ago - Howard Phillips.

Who was Howard Phillips?

Well, when Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon are too liberal for you, then you’re in Howard Phillips territory.

A Christian Reconstructionist, he wrote an entry in Judicial Tyranny: The New Kings of America?, part of the religious far right stew that brought us TYRANTS IN BLACK ROBES!! a la Rick Perry.

Will I dance on Howard Phillips’ grave? No, there is no dancing to be had. We’re just better off without him.

H. P. Lovecraft’s initials stood for “Howard Phillips.” Coincidence? I think not.

243 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:47:08pm

I was under the impression that no two people, not even identical twins and 100% matching DNA.

244 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:47:45pm

re: #228 GunstarGreen

That would be relevant if DNA determined everything. It does not. Identical twins do not always have the same personalities, even when raised in the same environment. This is, however, also irrelevant: It doesn’t matter whether people are ‘born that way’ or not. There is no justification for discrimination.

Epigenetics can be a factor even with twins.

245 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:48:33pm

re: #238 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Not sure if it signals a trend. For all intents and purposes I think PC’s will be around for some time to come given that gaming is huge and really does require a KB/Mouse. The only place I have seen tablets be really useful is in retail.

For example the vape shop I go to for e-cig juices and such use iPads with an app and card reader to process sales. It makes it more convenient so you don’t necessarily have to wait in line for one of their 2 actual registers.

Tablets definitely have a use - I have an iPad for reading scientific papers, for example. Hell of a lot easier than killing thousands of trees so I can print them out and lose the copy. Being able to watch movies with my husband when flying is an added bonus. I may also be minorly addicted to some of the cell-phone games.

I would never try to do actual work on the iPad, of the paper-writing variety. It really only works for short e-mail replies, unless I pair it with a external keyboard - which sort of defeats the point. I have an easier time replying to stuff on my smartphone/Android tablet because the text prediction is much better.

I have a minor love of tech toys. But I don’t spend money on clothing or makeup to make up for it.

246 freetoken  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:50:12pm

re: #243 Eclectic Cyborg

There was a recent publication that addressed that, which did discover some minor DNA differences between “identical” twins.

The likelihood being that after conception, and after the first cells split into two groups (thus giving two “identical” babies) that DNA duplication errors continue to accrue in cell division at this early stage.

247 kirkspencer  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:50:17pm

re: #216 klys

re: #218 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

I’m going to reiterate that desktop machines are not going away. They’re just going to get less common.

I agree that trying to use a vertical touchscreen is pretty much a failure. But I’m also going to say from experience that there are some solid viable alternatives to the mouse that work with W8 that are very near-term.

a) using a phone or tablet as a touchpad. The current working way is to RPC it to the desktop. Problem is while it’s more precise than touching with long reach it’s not as precise as careful mouse-work. Counterpoint - testing shows that most people don’t use careful mouse-work.

b) kinect/leap motion device “projecting” the touch area closer to the user. One major weakness of the desktop touchscreen is that reaching to it is awkward. You’re trying to make fine muscle movements at arm’s reach. By being able to ‘touch’ just in front of you the fine muscle control is restored. Further since you can reach to any depth it’s still your reach, not the computer’s, that matters. Two weaknesses here - you’re still having to reach up instead of sliding across the desk adjacent to the keypad; and there are training difficulties to prevent clicking a file when you take a sip of coffee.

c) kinect/leap motion projecting a virtual touchpad to the side of your keyboard. Now you’re tracking on the desktop. Both systems are sensitive enough to detect the difference between reaching (pointing) and tapping (clicking). And in fact both are able to tell if your finger is hovering a bit above the table, which in turn allows a pointer in that zone and “clicking” when actually touching. Major difficulty is clutter, followed by training recognition of particular fingers. There’s also the problem of someone or something running through that area and wreaking havoc (stupid cats).

248 freetoken  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:51:40pm

Speaking of reproductive biology:

Adults lack stem cells for making new eggs

Mammalian females ovulate periodically over their reproductive lifetimes, placing significant demands on their ovaries for egg production. Whether mammals generate new eggs in adulthood using stem cells has been a source of scientific controversy. If true, these “germ-line stem cells” might allow novel treatments for infertility and other diseases. However, new research from Carnegie’s Lei Lei and Allan Spradling demonstrates that adult mice do not use stem cells to produce new eggs. Their work is published by the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences the week of April 29.

[…]

249 GunstarGreen  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:52:08pm

re: #245 klys

Eh, keep a mini-keyboard in the bag/cover along with the tablet. Need to do some serious typing work, just dock the tablet onto the keyboard and voila, you now have what is effectively a laptop, except you can leave 50% of it at home most of the time.

250 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:52:24pm

re: #243 Eclectic Cyborg

I was under the impression that no two people, not even identical twins and 100% matching DNA.

Identicals come from a split fertilized ovum so they have the same DNA. How that expresses can be slightly different and brain pathways such as sight develop by making hundreds of connections and having most die out, so some pathways can be different between identical twins.

251 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:53:08pm

re: #245 klys

I was in BestBuy the other day and saw a tablet case (not sure if it was iPad compatible) that was a case and flat keyboard.

252 efuseakay  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:54:38pm

re: #198 jaunte

As if no one in the Normandy invasion was gay.

That’s the manly part of France!

253 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:55:53pm

re: #251 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I was in BestBuy the other day and saw a tablet case (not sure if it was iPad compatible) that was a case and flat keyboard.

Asus has that as well.

254 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:56:30pm

re: #253 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

That Benghazi nut is still Derping away. You’d think it would have blocked us by now.

255 kirkspencer  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:56:51pm

re: #245 klys

Tablets definitely have a use - I have an iPad for reading scientific papers, for example. Hell of a lot easier than killing thousands of trees so I can print them out and lose the copy. Being able to watch movies with my husband when flying is an added bonus. I may also be minorly addicted to some of the cell-phone games.

I would never try to do actual work on the iPad, of the paper-writing variety. It really only works for short e-mail replies, unless I pair it with a external keyboard - which sort of defeats the point. I have an easier time replying to stuff on my smartphone/Android tablet because the text prediction is much better.

I have a minor love of tech toys. But I don’t spend money on clothing or makeup to make up for it.

For papers, I talk. I use Dragon NaturallySpeaking. It runs on a 4 gb windows tablet just fine, W7 or W8.

See, I’ve got this little condition - cervical stenosis, for those who care. Most days I can type fine - over 60 wpm. Some days, however, and they’re getting more common, I can’t feel my outer two fingers on either hand. Going to hunt and peck just doesn’t do it, and touch typing without all the fingers is major retraining as well.

But I can still point, and even on the really bad days when it’s the whole hand I can keep it still enough to point, and that combined with talking means I can do pretty much everything.

I want the 64 bit tablets when they come out. I want the 8+GB memory tablet that’ll do pretty much everything I need and want to do. I’ll leave my desktop set up and use remote to use it as the monster processor when those needs arise, and in the meantime be perfectly fine with just my tablet.

256 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:57:03pm

re: #249 GunstarGreen

Eh, keep a mini-keyboard in the bag/cover along with the tablet. Need to do some serious typing work, just dock the tablet onto the keyboard and voila, you now have what is effectively a laptop, except you can leave 50% of it at home most of the time.

re: #251 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I was in BestBuy the other day and saw a tablet case (not sure if it was iPad compatible) that was a case and flat keyboard.

The other problem is that, for me, getting serious work done requires a full operating system, not a blown up smartphone one. I need the ability to run multiple programs at once, preferably side by side.

Which is fine - I enjoy my iPad for what it is. But I also have a laptop which I can do real work on. For me, trying to turn the iPad into a work device doesn’t make sense when laptops are out there and fill the niche just fine.

257 Lidane  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:57:56pm

As long as we’re talking about science:

Lamar Smith, GOP Push Politicization Of Scientific Research

Republicans on the House science committee are making an unprecedented move to require oversight of the scientific research process, pushing a bill that would in effect politicize decisions made by the National Science Foundation, according to a draft of the legislation acquired by The Huffington Post. As part of the same effort, Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas), chairman of the Committee on Science, Space and Technology, sent a letter to the NSF Thursday demanding that it provide supporting materials to justify research that its panels of independent scientists have approved.

The bill, titled the High Quality Research Act and authored by Smith, would require the director of the NSF to certify in writing that every grant handed out by the federal agency is for work that is “the finest quality, is ground breaking, and answers questions or solves problems that are of utmost importance to society at large; and … is not duplicative of other research project being funded by the Foundation or other Federal science agencies.” The bill has not been officially introduced, but HuffPost acquired a draft copy that Smith circulated among colleagues.

The measure would also require federal officials to report back to Congress on how the NSF was implementing the new regulations. Additionally, the bill solicits recommendations for how to place similar restrictions on other federal science agencies.

258 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:59:59pm

re: #257 Lidane

As long as we’re talking about science:

Lamar Smith, GOP Push Politicization Of Scientific Research

259 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:00:23pm

I just had a call from a very concerned Windows guy centred in India who informed my my computer is sending him notification that there is something wrong.

I told him I’m a frikken’ computer expert and he’s full of shit.

He kept going!

One of these days I’m going to let one of those twits connect to a VM and reverse the tables on him.

260 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:01:14pm

re: #256 klys

good point. The ability to multitask is a big deal to me too. I personally don’t like tablets, I love my Galaxy SIII phone but that is the only touch screen device I plan to have.

261 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:01:42pm

re: #258 klys

Fucking brilliant.

They want to follow the Harper plan I guess.

262 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:02:14pm

re: #259 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

I just had a call from a very concerned Windows guy centred in India who informed my my computer is sending him notification that there is something wrong.

I told him I’m a frikken’ computer expert and he’s full of shit.

He kept going!

One of these days I’m going to let one of those twits connect to a VM and reverse the tables on him.

An infected VM that tries to fry his system?

263 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:02:39pm

re: #259 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

I just had a call from a very concerned Windows guy centred in India who informed my my computer is sending him notification that there is something wrong.

I told him I’m a frikken’ computer expert and he’s full of shit.

He kept going!

One of these days I’m going to let one of those twits connect to a VM and reverse the tables on him.

They don’t work for MS. It’s a scam. (As well you know, I’m sure.) It’s probably not worth trying to stay on the phone long enough to get there.

My favorite way to play with them is to try to answer their questions but using my Mac.

264 freetoken  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:03:18pm

BTW, that PaleoPat article I mentioned upstream - well, it’s being pushed (in its Human Events incarnation) on the front page of RedState, because, well, Eric son of Erick ♥’s Human Events, a definite paleo-hangout and home of all sorts of bigotry.

265 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:03:58pm

re: #262 William Barnett-Lewis

An infected VM that tries to fry his system?

Exactly. In my line of work I run across all sorts of bugs I could collect. Or I could even write my own.

Maybe talk one of them into formatting his own drive.

266 abolitionist  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:04:07pm

re: #213 kirkspencer

Yes it is, and yes most of us don’t, today, on our desktops.

Thing is I don’t think desktops are going to be common choices for most users within a handful of years. And I think between kinect and leap motion, de facto touchscreens are going to be common for the desktops that are left.

I think that Microsoft had a window of opportunity where it could lead into that future, setting standards by its very size, or it could follow. For a change, it led.

[snip]

Due to ergonomics, I’m very confident that touchscreens will never be popular on desktop machines —at least until the displays change from vertical to horizontal, like a real desktop, as depicted in some sci-fi. And maybe not even then.

I speak from experience. Using a keyboard and mouse for several hours a day, day after day over many years, even with custom support for my elbows and right forearm, repetative stress syndrome kicks in.

If anyone doubts that, try extending one or both arms horizontally for just five minutes. Or try writing on a blackboard 1000 times, “The mouse is dead.”

267 dragonath  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:05:27pm

Yikes:

Massacre in Nigeria Spurs Outcry Over Military Tactics

The village, Baga, found itself in the cross hairs of Nigerian soldiers enraged by the killing of one of their own, said survivors who fled here to the state capital, 100 miles south. Their home had paid a heavy price: as many as 200 civilians, maybe more, were killed during the military’s rampage, according to refugees, senior relief workers, civilian officials and human rights organizations.

By 2050, Nigeria is projected to have a population of 500 Million people- in a country only a little larger than Texas. If the government can’t figure things out, it’s going to be the failed state of failed states.

268 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:05:41pm

re: #263 klys

They don’t work for MS. It’s a scam. (As well you know, I’m sure.) It’s probably not worth trying to stay on the phone long enough to get there.

My favorite way to play with them is to try to answer their questions but using my Mac.

I have a Linux box with several virtual machines I could let him connect to with no worries the crap they want to put on my machine would do any harm.

269 Decatur Deb  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:06:21pm

re: #203 Backwoods_Sleuth

I did a punchcard program back in the late 60s as part of a high school project.
Who knew those massive computers had sooooo many lights that would start flashing maniacally whilst it spit punchcards all over the room?

The kids in our Pittsburgh neighborhood got to use a computer in the 1950s. Buhl Planetarium had a vacuum tubed machine that would play tic-tac-toe when you pressed the buttons in the display matrix. It could be tied, but never lost.

Update: It wasn’t even vacuum tube, it was mechanical relay arrays built by Bell Labs.

venustransit.pghfree.net

270 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:06:42pm

re: #261 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Fucking brilliant.

They want to follow the Harper plan I guess.

It’s like when I sat with my in-laws one Christmas and listened to my mother-in-law bitching about how some of this science funding was totally useless and the NSF is just wasting money and blah blah blah Fox News talking point blah.

Until I reminded her that my salary, pitiful though it may be as a grad student, is paid for by one of those grants. And perhaps maybe the grant process, which I know something about, does a pretty good job of weeding out the shit.

271 Joanne  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:07:28pm

re: #17 Kragar

Another golden moment.

I don’t know…there is something about drinking a dick and golden moments that just seems wrong. :-)

272 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:07:31pm

re: #268 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

I have a Linux box with several virtual machines I could let him connect to with no worries the crap they want to put on my machine would do any harm.

Yeah, but you easily have to stay on the phone with them for a half an hour before they get you to that point. It’s like pulling teeth.

273 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:08:18pm

re: #265 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Exactly. In my line of work I run across all sorts of bugs I could collect. Or I could even write my own.

Maybe talk one of them into formatting his own drive.

I’m suddenly remembering I.C.E. from Gibson’s Neuromancer… ;)

274 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:09:08pm

re: #270 klys

It’s like when I sat with my in-laws one Christmas and listened to my mother-in-law bitching about how some of this science funding was totally useless and the NSF is just wasting money and blah blah blah Fox News talking point blah.

Until I reminded her that my salary, pitiful though it may be as a grad student, is paid for by one of those grants. And perhaps maybe the grant process, which I know something about, does a pretty good job of weeding out the shit.

I lived off grant money for three years. I didn’t get rich.
Most people fail to think about the potential benefits even the silly sounding studies can bring to areas not listed in the grant.

275 jaunte  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:09:21pm

Chrales P. Pierce:

“The Republican party exists today on a foundation of empowered ignorance and weaponized paranoia, and what party leaders there are know it, and they have shown no indication that they’re going to do anything substantive to change it.”

276 Joanne  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:09:51pm

re: #33 Targetpractice

CNN, trying so hard to be Fox Lite.

And they fail at everything they do. I can’t even bring myself to watch it because I always have to ask myself…is this true?

When you, as a news org, loses credibility like that, you’re done. But maybe that doesn’t matter…Fox has been doing that for years, and for the true believers, it doesn’t matter.

277 freetoken  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:09:59pm

How will Republicans get Latinos to vote for them?


GOD!

Of course.

Religious leader says Latinos could flock to Republican Party

As much as the paleo-right loves to publicly love GOD!, brown people are still brown people and only a few token brown God-talkers are allowed on the podiums.

278 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:11:52pm

re: #263 klys

They don’t work for MS. It’s a scam. (As well you know, I’m sure.) It’s probably not worth trying to stay on the phone long enough to get there.

My favorite way to play with them is to try to answer their questions but using my Mac.

Also, for those who get these calls and don’t want to listen, inform them a relative works for Microsoft.

They hang up pretty fast at that point.

279 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:12:19pm

re: #277 freetoken

How will Republicans get Latinos to vote for them?

GOD!

Of course.

Religious leader says Latinos could flock to Republican Party

As much as the paleo-right loves to publicly love GOD!, brown people are still brown people and only a few token brown God-talkers are allowed on the podiums.

How much do you want to bet that this thing b_sharp and I have been playing with is not “Latino” although it might have taken a Latin class at church school?

280 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:12:21pm

re: #261 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Fucking brilliant.

They want to follow the Harper plan I guess.

I assume you are referring to Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper?

281 Kragar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:12:44pm

re: #277 freetoken

How will Republicans get Latinos to vote for them?

GOD!

Of course.

Religious leader says Latinos could flock to Republican Party

As much as the paleo-right loves to publicly love GOD!, brown people are still brown people and only a few token brown God-talkers are allowed on the podiums.

“Because if we tell them Jesus wants them to vote for us, they’ll totally overlook every way we’ve been systematically screwing them over for generations! Hell, it worked in the South.”

282 Amory Blaine  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:14:15pm

The rise of the tablet has helped stagnate the PC market. Focus on apps for low speed tablets peels talent away. Business seems more “on the move” than ever. Many computer tasks can be performed on a cell phone nowadays. Competing gaming platforms (I know a small overall segment) are closing in on 8 year old technology. This stagnated the video processor race for a while. Windows laptops out there have lower resolutions than these tablets do. I think most young people coming up see more allure with the casualness of a tablet than sitting at a desk.

SSD Drives are finally becoming cheap enough to go mainstream. Intel has Haswell coming out and it seems more geared towards efficiency than speed (not a bad thing). Maybe there’ll be a resurgence with the new gaming systems coming out at the end of the year. Game developers will have better hardware to work with and maybe start pushing graphics again.

283 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:16:42pm

How is it today?

284 Kragar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:16:44pm

re: #279 Vicious Babushka

How much do you want to bet that this thing b_sharp and I have been playing with is not “Latino” although it might have taken a Latin class at church school?

2 minutes from Italy to Libya?

Catania, Sicily to Benghazi is 500 miles.

I’ll wait for brainchild to expand on his “reasoning”

285 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:17:52pm

Which Congress Critter was it that recently used the term “wetback”?

286 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:18:22pm

re: #284 Kragar

2 minutes from Italy to Libya?

Catania, Sicily to Benghazi is 500 miles.

I’ll wait for brainchild to expand on his “reasoning”

1 hour, 56 minutes by commercial airliner!

That’s not counting the time spent checking in at the airport, going through security, landing, going through customs, etc. SOP for a crack rescue team!

287 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:18:55pm

re: #282 Amory Blaine

Maybe there’ll be a resurgence with the new gaming systems coming out at the end of the year. Game developers will have better hardware to work with and maybe start pushing graphics again.

There are plenty of games that push graphics to be better, but they’re all for PC. And there are some things a console can’t do/provide that only a PC can. I couldn’t imagine playing an MMO on a console (even if they have them). I remember trying the original Diablo on a PS1 and controls just sucked. There are other games that have the same issue, they’re absolutely phenomenal on a good PC but on Console they are horrible.

288 freetoken  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:18:55pm

re: #281 Kragar

“Because if we tell them Jesus wants them to vote for us, they’ll totally overlook every way we’ve been systematically screwing them over for generations! Hell, it worked in the South.”

That’s Jeezzzussss to you, Je$u$ to me.

289 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:19:13pm

re: #266 abolitionist

Due to ergonomics, I’m very confident that touchscreens will never be popular on desktop machines —at least until the displays change from vertical to horizontal, like a real desktop, as depicted in some sci-fi. And maybe not even then.

I speak from experience. Using a keyboard and mouse for several hours a day, day after day over many years, even with custom support for my elbows and right forearm, repetative stress syndrome kicks in.

If anyone doubts that, try extending one or both arms horizontally for just five minutes. Or try writing on a blackboard 1000 times, “The mouse is dead.”

I agree, I hate my husband’s iPad. I could never do it full-time with my shoulder/neck issues.

290 Stanley Sea  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:20:47pm

re: #285 FemNaziBitch

Which Congress Critter was it that recently used the term “wetback”?

Don Young AK-Idiot

291 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:20:57pm

Wingnuts are already going crazy with this one!

Female DNA Found on Bomb in Boston Attack

OMG it was a Girl Bomb!

292 Decatur Deb  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:21:09pm

re: #286 Vicious Babushka

1 hour, 56 minutes by commercial airliner!

That’s not counting the time spent checking in at the airport, going through security, landing, going through customs, etc. SOP for a crack rescue team!

The whole issue is idiocy. Rapid rseponse teams don’t just sit around suited up, waiting for a map coordinate. Rapid response is measured in hours and often days.

293 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:21:17pm

re: #290 Stanley Sea

Don Young AK-Idiot

Yeah, great way to pander for the Latina Vote.

294 Decatur Deb  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:21:43pm

re: #291 Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts are already going crazy with this one!

Female DNA Found on Bomb in Boston Attack

OMG it was a Girl Bomb!

It was a kitchen pot.

295 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:22:04pm

re: #265 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Exactly. In my line of work I run across all sorts of bugs I could collect. Or I could even write my own.

Maybe talk one of them into formatting his own drive.

I’d recommend a recurring single beep from the PC speaker that happens at a randomly chosen interval between 10 and 25 minutes. This can cause mental breakdowns.

296 Stanley Sea  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:22:27pm

re: #294 Decatur Deb

It was a kitchen pot.

Wonder if they found rice DNA on it too?

297 Kragar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:22:42pm

re: #292 Decatur Deb

The whole issue is idiocy. Rapid rseponse teams don’t just sit around suited up, waiting for a map coordinate. Rapid response is measured in hours and often days.

I was just going to say “Yeah, because rescue teams are just sitting around, fully geared on the planes and awaiting the go order 24/7.”

298 Amory Blaine  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:23:04pm

re: #287 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I completely agree with that position. I’m just saying that because of the age of the XBox and PS3 that it’s holding graphics back. Take 2004, PC games of the year Half Life 2 and Far Cry could not even be ran in max graphics on 1080p. Now a more midrange card can max any game at that resolution.

299 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:23:39pm

re: #280 Eclectic Cyborg

I assume you are referring to Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper?

Of course.

300 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:23:50pm

Just watched all 3 parts of this PBS series.

It is linked in this Pages Post.

Rather important, actually.

The Xenophobes are using religion/ have always used religion to influence. Phyllis Shafley and her ilk are rich white women who don’t want to lose their pedestal. They make me ill.

301 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:24:57pm

re: #284 Kragar

2 minutes from Italy to Libya?

Catania, Sicily to Benghazi is 500 miles.

I’ll wait for brainchild to expand on his “reasoning”

The nearest US military base in Italy is 950 miles from Bengazi.

302 freetoken  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:25:26pm

The derp doesn’t end at just Alex Jones.

Rarely do I ever visit the CafeMom site, but a link just took me there… and it’s like a cross between WND and Oprah. Some seriously (probably willingly) misled folk over there.

303 dragonath  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:27:49pm

re: #300 FemNaziBitch

Just watched all 3 parts of this PBS series.

It is linked in this Pages Post.

Rather important, actually.

The Xenophobes are using religion/ have always used religion to influence. Phyllis Shafley and her ilk are rich white women who don’t want to lose their pedestal. They make me ill.

I wonder how many modern scientists would be labeled as heretics in the old days. And in his time, not so long ago, Einstein had to flee a country that had politicized science.

304 Bulworth  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:27:55pm
Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas), chairman of the Committee on Science, Space and Technology

Wait, I think I’ve spotted the problem..

305 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:29:01pm

re: #304 Bulworth

Wait, I think I’ve spotted the problem..

Well, with the space center there in TX, he had to be on the committee, all that money and land involved, you know

306 ProBosniaLiberal  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:31:11pm

And that little fucking freak Kucinich is at it again.

U.S. manufactured false intel on chemical weapons in Syria, winks Dennis Kucinich

And he hasn’t been tried of Treason and/or Sedition why? He is also now a Conspiracy Theorist, insisting it was a “False Flag.”

I want Kucinich tried and convicted for his communications with Qaddafi while we were intervening in the Libyan Revolutionary War, and his attempts to cripple that intervention on Qaddafi’s behalf.

307 dragonath  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:33:05pm

People should check out “Deutsche Physik” when someone denies the Theory of Relativity on religious grounds. Schlafy’s Conservapedia comes to mind.

308 engineer cat  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:33:55pm

Religious leader says Latinos could flock to Republican Party

ronald reagan predicted this back in the early 80s

could happen any century now

309 engineer cat  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:34:45pm

re: #307 dragonath

Deutsche Physik

i went out with a german girl who had a very nice deutsche physik

310 Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:35:00pm

re: #306 ProBosniaLiberal

Fuck Kucinich, but fuck your calling out “Treason” all the fucking time too.

311 Kragar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:35:33pm

Bryan Fischer still thinks he is under attack:

Bryan Fischer: Did the military in fact classify SBC as terrorist threat? Looks like it

Thanks to the AFA breaking the story and cranking up the heat on the U.S. military, the Pentagon is now scrambling to unblock the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) website on military computers.

The reason given by the military’s IT unit for the original blockage is that the SBC website contained “hostile content.” The Pentagon has since claimed the blockage was due to the detection of malware on the SBC website. This may be so.

Pentagon officials have stumbled all over themselves trying to deflect the accusation that the occlusion represented an expression of anti-Christian bias.

Not so fast.


Conspiracy fail: Baptist website was blocked for Malware, not anti-Christian agenda at DoD

312 Lidane  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:35:48pm

My co-worker is currently telling me about how a friend of hers was taking some kind of dowsing lessons with a pendulum to divine the answers for her life. And she just told me about how she tried it once herself and believed it because she “got a response” and it freaked her out.

Help me. Give me something concrete and scientific to latch on to.

313 dragonath  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:36:57pm

re: #304 Bulworth

Wait, I think I’ve spotted the problem..

Houston, we have a prob…

Ah, screw it

314 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:37:08pm

re: #312 Lidane

My co-worker is currently telling me about how a friend of hers was taking some kind of dowsing lessons with a pendulum to divine the answers for her life. And she just told me about how she tried it once herself and believed it because she “got a response” and it freaked her out.

Help me. Give me something concrete and scientific to latch on to.

Ask her if she has ever heard of the Self-Fulfilling Prophecy.

315 ProBosniaLiberal  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:37:09pm

re: #310 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

I think he committed a crime of some sort with this little thing:

On August 31, Al Jazeera reported that a document had been found in the headquarters of the Libyan intelligence agency which according to the author appears to be a summary of a conversation between Kucinich and an intermediary for Saif al-Islam Gaddafi in which the congressman asked for information about the anti-Gaddafi National Transitional Council (NTC), possible links of it to al-Qaeda and corruption evidences, to lobby US lawmakers to put an end to NATO airstrikes and suspend their support for the NTC. It also listed information necessary to defend Saif al-Islam against International Criminal Court war crimes charges.

There is no way he didn’t break a law in doing that. Aiding and abetting the enemy?

316 Kragar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:38:48pm

From Bryan Fischer:

“According to the Pentagon’s own definition of cyberwar, the DOD may in fact have been accusing the SBC of being a domestic terror threat. My search of the term “hostile content” and “malware” yielded nothing but one obscure reference, in a veterinary journal of all places.”

Google Search: Hostile Content Malware

About 8,340,000 results (0.14 seconds)

317 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:39:25pm

I gotta eat somfin.

318 dragonath  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:39:31pm

re: #312 Lidane

I divine positive responses from putting dirty words in “Mad Libs”

319 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:40:29pm

re: #316 Kragar

His google foo is not good. /

320 ProBosniaLiberal  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:40:58pm

Also, apparently Germany is once again specializing in Moral Cowardice. An old pattern, that pushed for Croatian Recognition way too early, and always opposed Bosnia and Kosovo’s interventions.

For a country that so trumpets Human Rights, they do fuck all to actually defend them, or enforce them.

321 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:43:00pm

re: #257 Lidane

As long as we’re talking about science:

Lamar Smith, GOP Push Politicization Of Scientific Research

So, the GOP intends to stifle science research in the U.S.? Nice of them to come out and admit it.

322 Kragar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:43:47pm

re: #321 Romantic Heretic

So, the GOP intends to stifle science research in the U.S.? Nice of them to come out and admit it.

Why do you need to research anything when the Bible has all the answers?
///

323 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:45:25pm

re: #263 klys

They don’t work for MS. It’s a scam. (As well you know, I’m sure.) It’s probably not worth trying to stay on the phone long enough to get there.

My favorite way to play with them is to try to answer their questions but using my Mac.

I like to keep asking them to repeat themselves.
over and over and over….

324 taserian  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:46:37pm

re: #259 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

I take it you’ve seen the scammer trolls on Youtube, keeping them engaged for close to 30-40 minutes with a VM.

If they call you again, how about recording and sending us a link?

325 abolitionist  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:48:19pm

re: #323 Backwoods_Sleuth

I like to keep asking them to repeat themselves.
over and over and over….

Tell them your Start Menu is on the right side, and ask if they can help get it back to the bottom left. ;)

326 Lidane  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:53:08pm

re: #318 dragonath

I divine positive responses from putting dirty words in “Mad Libs”

At least Mad Libs makes sense.

This friend once pulled out a pendulum to divine whether or not there was some food she was allergic to in what she had ordered. You know, because asking the server and explaining that you have an allergy is so goddamn difficult.

I didn’t have the heart to say that using a pendulum to divine the answers of life is about as effective as a Magic 8 Ball. I just let the subject drop.

327 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:53:38pm

re: #288 freetoken

That’s Jeezzzussss to you, Je$u$ to me.

and jeebus to everyone else…

328 dragonath  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:55:42pm

re: #320 ProBosniaLiberal

Germany is once again specializing in Moral Cowardice.

I thought Germany was the Land of Chocolate?

329 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:56:46pm

re: #328 dragonath

I thought Germany was the Land of Chocolate?

That was 10 minutes ago!

330 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:57:07pm

re: #328 dragonath

I think it is Switzerland.

331 Kragar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 2:58:05pm

re: #312 Lidane

My co-worker is currently telling me about how a friend of hers was taking some kind of dowsing lessons with a pendulum to divine the answers for her life. And she just told me about how she tried it once herself and believed it because she “got a response” and it freaked her out.

Help me. Give me something concrete and scientific to latch on to.

Dowsing? Pendulums?

What a load of horseshit.

Everyone knows you need to cast the runes for proper divinations!

332 Kragar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 3:00:39pm

So apparently the guy they currently have in custody for the ricin letters was previously a Wayne Newton impersonator.

I don’t even ….

333 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 3:02:08pm

Apparently there was a fight on Mount Everest. So far this is the best response I have read, although somewhat sparse on details.

It’ll be interesting to see how the incident plays out.

334 ProBosniaLiberal  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 3:02:46pm

re: #330 PhillyPretzel

When I think Chocolate, I think Belgium.

335 Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 3:02:57pm

re: #315 ProBosniaLiberal

Yeah, let’s execute people based on 2nd-hand accounts from Al Jazeera!

336 Lidane  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 3:04:53pm

re: #327 Backwoods_Sleuth

and jeebus to everyone else…

“Thanks Jesus for this food.” “De nada.”

337 Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 3:06:06pm

re: #333 klys

Send Brian Blessed up there to sort it out.

Image: Brian+Blessed.jpg

338 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 3:06:17pm

re: #326 Lidane

At least Mad Libs makes sense.

This friend once pulled out a pendulum to divine whether or not there was some food she was allergic to in what she had ordered. You know, because asking the server and explaining that you have an allergy is so goddamn difficult.

I didn’t have the heart to say that using a pendulum to divine the answers of life is about as effective as a Magic 8 Ball. I just let the subject drop.

You could venture to tell her (if she is Christian) that she is using the devil’s tool.

339 A Mom Anon  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 3:07:06pm

re: #274 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

My mom used to bitch about the “fruit fly study…in FRANCE” that some of our tax money went to or some such Beckian nonsense. I then explained to her that the DNA of that goofy little fly might also lead to the key to autism or maybe something like MS. You know,autism, like her grandson has.Or MS like her youngest child has. I could almost literally see the light go on. “Oh, well that makes more sense then”.

340 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 3:07:51pm

re: #307 dragonath

People should check out “Deutsche Physik” when someone denies the Theory of Relativity on religious grounds. Schlafy’s Conservapedia comes to mind.

Isn’t Deutsche the latest ricin letter guy?

341 ProBosniaLiberal  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 3:08:03pm

re: #335 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

No, I would prefer we throw him in prison for a decade or so.

342 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 3:08:20pm

re: #298 Amory Blaine

I completely agree with that position. I’m just saying that because of the age of the XBox and PS3 that it’s holding graphics back. Take 2004, PC games of the year Half Life 2 and Far Cry could not even be ran in max graphics on 1080p. Now a more midrange card can max any game at that resolution.

Oh no doubt. Consoles have held back some games from being better graphically. The only way that could change is if there was a way to upgrade a consoles graphics engine. But doing that, you might as well have a PC.

343 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 3:08:38pm

re: #341 ProBosniaLiberal

I think you’re missing the whole burden-of-proof bit.

344 Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 3:09:02pm

re: #341 ProBosniaLiberal

No, I would prefer we throw him in prison for a decade or so.

Based on a 2nd hand account from Al Jazeera.

What you want tends to be really undemocratic. Do you actually think of yourself as someone who supports democracy?

345 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 3:10:06pm

re: #344 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Based on a 2nd hand account. from Al Jazeera.

What you want tends to be really undemocratic. Do you actually think of yourself as someone who supports democracy?

ftfy

346 Lidane  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 3:13:07pm

re: #338 FemNaziBitch

You could venture to tell her (if she is Christian) that she is using the devil’s tool.

My co-worker isn’t the one using this nonsense. It’s a friend of hers that’s doing it. I just didn’t have the heart to insult my co-worker’s friend.

347 bws58  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 3:13:27pm

re: #141 thedopefishlives

I was a math head. I tested out of two semesters of college calc after nailing the AP Calc test. You may abuse me now.

But did you understand what you were doing? LOL I got A’s in 3 quarters of Calc, but had no idea why/how/what, just could doing. Thank god I had a cal prof who would left me take alternate routes to the answers, as long as there were no errors in my weird logic

348 kirkspencer  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 3:14:24pm

re: #315 ProBosniaLiberal

I think he committed a crime of some sort with this little thing:

There is no way he didn’t break a law in doing that. Aiding and abetting the enemy?

As I recall there was a wee bit more to the story, something about the actual documents not quite matching what the reporter claimed, and something else about time frames.

Sorta like how various officials had legitimate conversations with Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden once upon a time.

349 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 3:15:36pm

re: #292 Decatur Deb

Rapid response teams.

First you have to identify the situation, get a sense of what’s going on and then prepare a mission plan. You aren’t going to send in a six person team if the attackers numbered in the dozens or hundreds. Likewise, you aren’t going to send in 100-200 troops (and all the support gear) if you’re up against 5 guys.

The Entebbe raid comes to mind. Hijackers took the plane June 27. The IDF’s Sayeret Matkal was the spearhead of the team. They didn’t just rush in. They planned the raid (using intel and knowledge of the airport/layout) first.

Moreover, it takes time to scramble a HRT, even here in the US. They aren’t there right away and even then, they’re going to approach the situation with caution. With Benghazi the nearest response team was hours away by plane.

This is just another example of the right wing grasping on to something with which to hate the Administration and the President personally.

350 ProBosniaLiberal  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 3:17:26pm

re: #343 klys

Well, bring in the Rebels and Journalists involved for questioning, and try to get these documents. Start some sort of investigation.

re: #344 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

I do. I do tend to jump the gun, and tend to go for harshness. It’s something I do need to work on.

351 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 3:19:15pm

re: #315 ProBosniaLiberal

I think he committed a crime of some sort with this little thing:

There is no way he didn’t break a law in doing that. Aiding and abetting the enemy?

Oh bullshit, he has the 1st Amendment right to petition his government, which includes lobbying US lawmakers based on information solicited from foreign princes. This isn’t material aid to an enemy and it isn’t a Logan Act violation because he wasn’t negotiating US foreign policy.

352 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 3:22:24pm

re: #346 Lidane

My co-worker isn’t the one using this nonsense. It’s a friend of hers that’s doing it. I just didn’t have the heart to insult my co-worker’s friend.

I know, I’d have a hard time not laughing tho.

353 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 3:24:45pm

bbl

354 thedopefishlives  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 3:25:48pm

re: #347 bws58

But did you understand what you were doing? LOL I got A’s in 3 quarters of Calc, but had no idea why/how/what, just could doing. Thank god I had a cal prof who would left me take alternate routes to the answers, as long as there were no errors in my weird logic

Actually, yes, I was quite good on the theory, enough so that I could write programs on my graphing calculator. Too bad I wasn’t enough of an entrepreneur to charge for them.

355 Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 3:28:42pm

re: #350 ProBosniaLiberal

I do. I do tend to jump the gun, and tend to go for harshness. It’s something I do need to work on.

If we replaced the names in what you said, you would fit seamlessly into Freep, Red State, or anywhere else in Wingnuttia. You obviously get something out of this behavior, or you wouldn’t keep doing it. It needs more than work. You are legitimately frightening in your bloodlust.

356 Lidane  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 3:30:03pm

re: #352 FemNaziBitch

I know, I’d have a hard time not laughing tho.

Heh. My initial reaction was o_O immediately followed by “WTF that was debunked as nonsense at least a century ago!” Then I laughed.

I just didn’t press the issue. Haha.

357 EPR-radar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 3:39:01pm

re: #350 ProBosniaLiberal

Well, bring in the Rebels and Journalists involved for questioning, and try to get these documents. Start some sort of investigation.

re: #344 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

I do. I do tend to jump the gun, and tend to go for harshness. It’s something I do need to work on.

Harshness is a bit of a euphemism here. Your default intensity level on many issues seems to be “kill them all and let God sort them out”. It is seriously off-putting.

358 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 3:40:46pm

re: #350 ProBosniaLiberal

Well, bring in the Rebels and Journalists involved for questioning, and try to get these documents. Start some sort of investigation.

This should be the default starting point. Not calling for 10 years in prison before we know all the facts. Or, indeed, any facts.

359 Amory Blaine  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 3:42:48pm

re: #312 Lidane

My co-worker is currently telling me about how a friend of hers was taking some kind of dowsing lessons with a pendulum to divine the answers for her life. And she just told me about how she tried it once herself and believed it because she “got a response” and it freaked her out.

Help me. Give me something concrete and scientific to latch on to.

Run!!!!

360 Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 3:42:49pm

re: #358 klys

This should be the default starting point. Not calling for 10 years in prison before we know all the facts. Or, indeed, any facts.

Kucinich’s explanation is that the ‘document’ is a note from one Libyan to another, basically recounting Kucinich’s publicly stated positions

361 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 3:53:37pm

re: #350 ProBosniaLiberal

Well, bring in the Rebels and Journalists involved for questioning, and try to get these documents. Start some sort of investigation.

Even if everything alleged is true, there’s no obvious violation of the law here. It doesn’t pass the test established under Holder v. Humanitarian Law Project because neither Saif al-Islam Gaddafi nor his representative belong to a designated terrorist organization, and Holder is the only case ever to meet the test for political speech established in Brandenburg v. Ohio. Even if Gaddafi did belong to a terrorist org, it’s not clear that Kucinich was in any way offering material support or advice, but only seeking information, and anyway the Holder ruling is purely hypothetical and can be revisited in the future if an actual prosecution is ever made.

362 jamesfirecat  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 3:55:49pm

re: #287 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

There are plenty of games that push graphics to be better, but they’re all for PC. And there are some things a console can’t do/provide that only a PC can. I couldn’t imagine playing an MMO on a console (even if they have them). I remember trying the original Diablo on a PS1 and controls just sucked. There are other games that have the same issue, they’re absolutely phenomenal on a good PC but on Console they are horrible.

I can not recall or even properly imagine a RTS game for a console which would not feel frustrating.

363 EPR-radar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 3:58:35pm

re: #362 jamesfirecat

I can not recall or even properly imagine a RTS game for a console which would not feel frustrating.

It can go the other way around too, where a game originally designed for a console feels strange playing it on a PC with keyboard/mouse. Of course, a real game controller can always be added to a PC, while the consoles aren’t so flexible.

364 jamesfirecat  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:01:33pm

re: #363 EPR-radar

It can go the other way around too, where a game originally designed for a console feels strange playing it on a PC with keyboard/mouse. Of course, a real game controller can always be added to a PC, while the consoles aren’t so flexible.

I still think a computer port of an orignally consol based bame is not as bad as trying to play an RTS port of a PC game. Chiefly because RTSs.require you to have a mouse to easily click on the units or buildings you want to select, and that does not even go into a game where you have heavy micro of units special abilities.

365 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:19:54pm

re: #364 jamesfirecat

I still think a computer port of an orignally consol based bame is not as bad as trying to play an RTS port of a PC game. Chiefly because RTSs.require you to have a mouse to easily click on the units or buildings you want to select, and that does not even go into a game where you have heavy micro of units special abilities.

Is this authentic gameplayer gibberish?

366 kmg  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 8:43:58pm

He could have made his point without f*cking this and a**hole that. Obviously “the FBI” blowing up the Boston Marathon is crazy, but I had to stop watching because the guy doing the talking was nauseating himself.


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