NBA Player Jason Collins Says He’s Gay, Breitbrats Get Their Smear On

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You may have heard already that NBA free agent Jason Collins came right out of the closet today. As far as I know, this makes him the first openly gay NBA player; you should read his entire well-written piece in Sports Illustrated.

When the news broke, breitbart.com editor and professionally persecuted victim of the left Ben Shapiro sprang into action and took to the Twitters to denigrate Collins’ playing abilities. That’s how the Breitbrat weirdos respond to all news that involves their major targets of hatred, gay people and black people — by smearing.

I’m only surprised that Shapiro didn’t find a way to work in a hate-Obama angle too.

UPDATE at 4/29/13 4:05:32 pm

Meanwhile, religious right caveman Bryan Fischer sees this as scientific proof that people like Jason Collins are sinners.

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250 comments

1 thedopefishlives  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 3:57:51pm

One thing that’s been a bright spot for me, watching the derp develop over Twitter, is the support he’s gotten from sports figures such as ESPN writers and even Kobe Bryant. Good thing the sports community isn’t all as bigoted as the Breitbrats.

2 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 3:59:11pm
3 thedopefishlives  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:00:12pm

re: #1 thedopefishlives

re: #2 Vicious Babushka

Obviously not THAT ESPN writer. Bah.

4 TheSwedish  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:00:16pm

Cut Mr. Shapiro a little slack, folks; he looks like a lost Addams Family member, and he hasn’t gotten over that.

5 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:00:52pm
6 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:01:48pm

WAIT, WHAT? KOCH BROTHER IS SPONSORING THIS?

7 Jimmah  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:02:56pm

re: #4 TheSwedish

Cut Mr. Shapiro a little slack, folks; he looks like a lost Addams Family member, and he hasn’t gotten over that.

Or one of Dwight Schrute’s strange idiot-boy cousins.

8 Pamela Gellar [sic(k)]  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:03:41pm
So Jason Collins is a hero because he’s gay? Our standard for heroism has dropped quite a bit since Normandy.

What makes him so sure no gay people fought at Normandy?

9 Varek Raith  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:04:58pm

Hi everyone!

10 Kid A  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:05:12pm

Ben, go fornicate yourself.

11 Lidane  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:05:23pm

re: #8 Pamela Gellar [sic(k)]

What makes him so sure no gay people fought at Normandy?

UNPOSSIBLE! Gay people were invented by hippies in the 60’s!

////

12 efuseakay  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:05:53pm

Ben Shapiro is gay.

FACT1!!

13 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:06:04pm

Colbert-Busch vs Sanford debate starting now…
popcorn!!!!

14 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:06:40pm

Teh Twitterz is overrun by spambots.

15 Kragar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:08:44pm

re: #12 efuseakay

Ben Shapiro is gay.

FACT1!!

And the problem with that would be?

16 Kid A  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:08:47pm
17 blueraven  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:08:51pm

re: #13 Backwoods_Sleuth

Colbert-Busch vs Sanford debate starting now…
popcorn!!!!

Livestream

scetv.org

18 Mattand  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:11:22pm

re: #6 Vicious Babushka

WAIT, WHAT? KOCH BROTHER IS SPONSORING THIS?

I should go, learn their tactics and use every one against them.

Oh, wait, I have morals.

19 Joanne  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:16:41pm

re: #11 Lidane

UNPOSSIBLE! Gay people were invented by hippies in the 60’s!

////

Best fake quote du jour.

20 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:17:39pm

re: #5 Vicious Babushka

I saw that earlier! SAME DNA, STRAIGHT AS AN ARROW!!! There’s your proof, science liberals.

21 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:17:58pm

re: #5 Vicious Babushka

That Fischer person has a lot to learn about DNA. Just because someone has a twin does not necessarily mean that they are a duplicate of the other. Maybe he should study some more biology than the bible.

22 Joanne  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:19:06pm

re: #17 blueraven

Livestream

scetv.org

My feed died. Freaking iPhone. Do share highlights, please.

23 Joanne  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:20:09pm

re: #18 Mattand

I should go, learn their tactics and use every one against them.

Oh, wait, I have morals.

That would be moral. Greater good and all.

24 blueraven  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:23:37pm

re: #22 Joanne

My feed died. Freaking iPhone. Do share highlights, please.

Sanford getting booed and heckled for bringing up Pelosi

25 wrenchwench  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:24:25pm

From Collins’s SI article:

No one wants to live in fear. I’ve always been scared of saying the wrong thing. I don’t sleep well. I never have. But each time I tell another person, I feel stronger and sleep a little more soundly. It takes an enormous amount of energy to guard such a big secret. I’ve endured years of misery and gone to enormous lengths to live a lie. I was certain that my world would fall apart if anyone knew.

Little pissants like Ben Shapiro should realize they aren’t upholding some proper tradition or protecting civilization, they are holding civilization back and hurting real people. Causing real pain. Sometimes death, either by suicide or an early death from stress.

I want to turn the Cambridge guy loose on Benny. Then I want to see Jason set a hard pick in front of him.

But really, I wish he would just wise up, grow up, and stop hurting people. His words do matter, in conjunction with those of all the other haters who make good people, even 7’ tall people, afraid to be themselves.

26 Varek Raith  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:25:28pm

re: #5 Vicious Babushka

Image: images.jpg

27 EPR-radar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:26:05pm

re: #5 Vicious Babushka

The following questions can cut through the BS spewed by Fischer et al.:

1) When did you choose to be straight?

2) In an alternate reality where sexual orientation is simply a conscious choice, what difference would it being a choice make and why?

28 efuseakay  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:26:38pm

re: #15 Kragar

And the problem with that would be?

Nothing. But that’s not how Ben would see it.

29 EPR-radar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:27:32pm

re: #25 wrenchwench

Haters gotta hate.

This really is the essential point of present-day ‘social conservatism’ in the US.

30 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:27:50pm

re: #25 wrenchwench

From Collins’s SI article:

Little pissants like Ben Shapiro should realize they aren’t upholding some proper tradition or protecting civilization, they are holding civilization back and hurting real people. Causing real pain. Sometimes death, either by suicide or an early death from stress.

I want to turn the Cambridge guy loose on Benny. Then I want to see Jason set a hard pick in front of him.

But really, I wish he would just wise up, grow up, and stop hurting people. His words do matter, in conjunction with those of all the other haters who make good people, even 7’ tall people, afraid to be themselves.

He’s pissed because most people don’t take him seriously.
I hope for his sake he doesn’t have a Mickey Mouse voice.

31 Sionainn  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:27:53pm

From the debate, it’s not “Ne-VAH-duh.” Grrr.

32 blueraven  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:28:30pm

re: #31 Sionainn

From the debate, it’s not “Ne-VAH-duh.” Grrr.

He wants to privatize SS

33 Sionainn  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:28:50pm

re: #32 blueraven

He wants to privatize SS

Yep. I really dislike him.

34 Varek Raith  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:29:46pm

re: #32 blueraven

He wants to privatize SS

Brilliant.
And if Bush had done that when he wanted to, SS would’ve been wiped out by the depression of 2008.

35 Sionainn  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:31:31pm

She’s knowledgeable. I’m impressed so far. Sanford is a joke.

36 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:31:34pm

re: #32 blueraven

He wants to privatize SS

and used someplace in south Texas in 1983 to “prove” his argument.

arrrghhhhhh

37 GeneJockey  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:31:42pm

re: #21 PhillyPretzel

Maybe he should study some more biology than the bible.

BLASPHEMER!!! The Bible contains all the Science Man needs to know!!!

As a side note, I’d observe that a Creationist with whom I’ve previously tussled uses the term ‘operational science’ to refer to that science which gives him the answers he likes, and the kind that doesn’t as, in essence, ‘not REAL science’.

And he’s a Scientist! Well, a chemist. Somehow he thinks this means he knows all about Biology.

38 EPR-radar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:32:12pm

re: #34 Varek Raith

Brilliant.
And if Bush had done that when he wanted to, SS would’ve been wiped out by the depression of 2008.

Sanford must be counting on voters who have very short attention spans, or who like to vote against their own interests.

SOP for Republicans these days.

39 EPR-radar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:33:47pm

re: #37 GeneJockey

As a side note, I’d observe that a Creationist with whom I’ve previously tussled uses the term ‘operational science’ to refer to that science which gives him the answers he likes, and the kind that doesn’t as, in essence, ‘not REAL science’.

And he’s a Scientist! Well, a chemist. Somehow he thinks this means he knows all about Biology.

Creationists with some technical background are an interesting sub-species. Back in the days, one of the most notorious internet creationists was a Tektronix engineer.

40 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:33:55pm

my drinking game was for every time Sanfraud said “Pelosi”.
I may not make it through the entire debate…

41 wrenchwench  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:34:41pm

re: #29 EPR-radar

Haters gotta hate.

This really is the essential point of present-day ‘social conservatism’ in the US.

Hate is so much easier than thinking things through and realizing one might be in error. Or worse; one’s parents may have taught lies to their kids.

42 EPR-radar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:35:15pm

re: #40 Backwoods_Sleuth

my drinking game was for every time Sanfraud said “Pelosi”.
I may not make it through the entire debate…

This is the jackass that used a life size poster of Pelosi as some kind of political prop, IIRC. Spare your liver.

43 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:35:40pm

re: #29 EPR-radar

Haters gotta hate.

This really is the essential point of present-day ‘social conservatism’ in the US.

Back in the goode olde days, people like Bryan enjoyed a privileged position because of their religious beliefs. Minorities were kept on one side of the tracks, the affluent white men on the other. Crime was as segregated as the people. Women were taking care of the children, house keeping and supper. Golf clubs had men only links and rooms. Kids and women who refused to do as they were told could be beat with impunity. Churches enforced the belief that all was as it should be.

That’s a lot to give up because of liberal causes.

44 Bubblehead II  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:35:54pm

Evening Lizards. Hope all is well with you.

45 allegro  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:37:52pm

Speaking of gay acceptance issues… I just saw on my local NBC affiliate news that there was a vote here today by the local BSA board regarding their ban on gay employees, volunteers, and scouts. They voted to uphold the ban saying they wanted to concentrate on the “positives” of scouting. That, to me, sounds like an admission that the ban is a negative but frankly don’t expect them to acknowledge that point.

For fun, I went to the affiliate website to see if they allowed comments on their stories. They do. But hmmm, though that is the top story listed on their website, clicking the link gets a “page unknown.” They pulled it. What do we want to bet that they pulled it due to unconscionable, homophobic comments?

46 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:37:53pm

re: #44 Bubblehead II

Evening Lizards. Hope all is well with you.

Did you bring the beer?

47 EPR-radar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:37:53pm

re: #43 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Back in the goode olde days, people like Bryan enjoyed a privileged position because of their religious beliefs. Minorities were kept on one side of the tracks, the affluent white men on the other. Crime was as segregated as the people. Women were taking care of the children, house keeping and supper. Golf clubs had men only links and rooms. Kids and women who refused to do as they were told could be beat with impunity. Churches enforced the belief that all was as it should be.

That’s a lot to give up because of liberal causes.

Spot on.

Cue up the wicked witch of the West: My privilege! My beautiful privilege! It’s melting!

48 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:38:11pm

On topic:

A Texas man says he and his partner were together for 34 years but his partner’s sister has now forced them apart, taken their home, and his partner’s finances — and done it legally because they weren’t married. For the last six years his partner, Jim, who is older, suffered from Alzheimer’s. Jim’s estranged sister, Lon Watts writes on Facebook, was able to take their home and Jim’s finances through the courts by filing for guardianship — despite Lon having power of attorney.

49 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:38:13pm

Sanford chose to answer a question about education by spouting Cato Institute nonsense about the debt.
Big roll of thunder…Thor spoke.

50 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:38:35pm

re: #47 EPR-radar

Spot on.

Cue up the wicked witch of the West: My privilege! My beautiful privilege! It’s melting!

Pfft, there’s no such things as privilege. See Kim Kardashian.

//////// dripping.

51 Bubblehead II  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:41:14pm

re: #46 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Did you bring the beer?

Yep. Here you go.

52 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:41:40pm

re: #50 klys

Pfft, there’s no such things as privilege. See Kim Kardashian.

//////// dripping.

Here you go, take this napkin to clean up that mess.

53 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:42:44pm

re: #51 Bubblehead II

Yep. Here you go.

Mmmm.

Now to break out the peanuts.

54 wrenchwench  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:43:08pm

re: #48 goddamnedfrank

On topic:

People need the law to protect them from their families. Sad, but way too often true.

55 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:43:35pm

re: #52 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

I think “Conservative Latino” has been waiting for 6 WHOLE MONTHS to use its talking points on SUM LIBRULZ.

It lost me when it said the attack on Yemen embassy didn’t count because only brown people died.

56 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:43:38pm

According to Weather Underground, tomorrow is forecast to be “much cooler” than today.

Tomorrow’s predicted high? 88 degrees. We don’t have a predicted high below 80 until next Monday.

Fuck this shit.

57 Sionainn  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:44:43pm

LOL, she just called him out on his bullshit.

58 GeneJockey  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:44:54pm

re: #39 EPR-radar

And various of the prominent Climate Change Deniers are engineers, physicists, geologists. In other words, trained in Science, but not in Climate Science.

59 wrenchwench  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:46:01pm

You can tweet him too. Click on his name.

60 EPR-radar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:46:12pm

re: #35 Sionainn

She’s knowledgeable. I’m impressed so far. Sanford is a joke.

It seems possible that Sanford could find a way to lose, even though the district usually leans R.

61 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:46:58pm

“What do you think I fought for in Omaha Beach?”

62 CriticalDragon1177  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:48:18pm

re: #2 Vicious Babushka

You mean just like he deserves, Bryan?

63 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:49:54pm

re: #55 Vicious Babushka

I think “Conservative Latino” has been waiting for 6 WHOLE MONTHS to use its talking points on SUM LIBRULZ.

It lost me when it said the attack on Yemen embassy didn’t count because only brown people died.

That math of his, followed by the admonition we should be more rational and ‘do the math’, was pretty funny considering it exposed his own inability to do the math and to think beyond his ideology.

He’s a funny guy.

64 Grackle  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:50:33pm

bleacherreport.com

Bad players can be an inspiration if they’re the kind of people you like, I guess.

65 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:51:01pm

re: #56 klys

According to Weather Underground, tomorrow is forecast to be “much cooler” than today.

Tomorrow’s predicted high? 88 degrees. We don’t have a predicted high below 80 until next Monday.

Fuck this shit.

Up here we’re bitching about how cold it’s been this spring.

Frikken’ weather, never does what it’s told.

66 EPR-radar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:51:08pm

re: #58 GeneJockey

And various of the prominent Climate Change Deniers are engineers, physicists, geologists. In other words, trained in Science, but not in Climate Science.

One doesn’t have to be a climate scientist to recognize the fallacies the deniers engage in. Any reasonable capacity for critical thinking will do, and such critical thinking is often essential in technical disciplines.

Thus, the creationists and climate deniers with science degrees should know better (and usually do).

But supporting politically useful lies is a convenient way to cash out on credentials without having to do any real work.

67 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:52:34pm

jeez… Sanford has a hardon for Pelosi. He just can NOT stop talking about her. It’s like he’s running against Pelosi instead of Colbert-Busch.

68 Grackle  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:52:37pm

And then:

69 palomino  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:52:58pm

re: #61 goddamnedfrank

“What do you think I fought for in Omaha Beach?”

[Embedded content]

That’s beautiful. Thanks for posting it.

70 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:53:07pm

re: #64 Grackle

bleacherreport.com

Bad players can be an inspiration if they’re the kind of people you like, I guess.

Shapiro sounds like a street corner thumper.

71 Lidane  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:53:25pm

re: #61 goddamnedfrank

“What do you think I fought for in Omaha Beach?”

[Embedded content]

That man just brought me to tears. Beautiful!

72 Kid A  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:54:14pm
73 engineer cat  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:55:50pm

So Jason Collins is a hero because he’s gay? Our standard for heroism has dropped quite a bit since Normandy

it’s gotten so bad that even former hollywood actors can get elected governor and president

74 Kragar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:58:29pm

“Our standard for heroism has dropped quite a bit since Normandy.”

Says the guy dry humping Breitbart’s corpse.

75 austin_blue  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4:59:58pm

Evening all. Another perfect day in CenTex.

76 EPR-radar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:00:00pm

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeez… Sanford has a hardon for Pelosi. He just can NOT stop talking about her. It’s like he’s running against Pelosi instead of Colbert-Busch.

Sanford probably has no idea how to run a campaign that is actually a contest between R and D. The 1st district in SC has been R continuously since 1981, so Sanford may have assumed that all he needs is the (R) next to his name on the ballot.

This assumption didn’t work for Coakley in MA, and hopefully doesn’t work for Sanford in SC.

77 GeneJockey  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:00:58pm

re: #66 EPR-radar

One doesn’t have to be a climate scientist to recognize the fallacies the deniers engage in. Any reasonable capacity for critical thinking will do, and such critical thinking is often essential in technical disciplines.

True. Interestingly, I know a Microbiologist who routinely posts a flowchart of Creationist “thinking”, laden with the usual dodges and fallacies. But he has completely bought into Climate Denial, even when I point out they do the same damned things as Creationists.

Go figure.

78 freetoken  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:01:08pm

re: #58 GeneJockey

And various of the prominent Climate Change Deniers are engineers, physicists, geologists. In other words, trained in Science, but not in Climate Science.

It’s usually the same old group of emeriti or near-emeriti, which get trotted out over and over to convince the general populace there are masses of them. Only a handful have any relevance to atmospheric physics or climate change, and all of them have made it clear through various outlets that their opposition is rooted in religious or political beliefs, not science.

79 palomino  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:02:15pm

re: #73 engineer cat

So Jason Collins is a hero because he’s gay? Our standard for heroism has dropped quite a bit since Normandy

it’s gotten so bad that even former hollywood actors can get elected governor and president

The heroic actor/president you refer to, who never set foot outside US soil during the entirety of WWII. I guess Reagan, like Cheney, had “other priorities” during wartime.

80 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:02:59pm

re: #25 wrenchwench

I had to come back and reply to this, because what you highlight right here, this is what breaks my heart.

These are human beings. Lives. And never once have I heard any argument about the supposed harm that can even remotely explain the very real, very present harm that is being done to these people every day. The sick hatred that it perpetuates is disgusting and no, I don’t have to ‘tolerate’ intolerance by allowing it to be codified into law.

At least I have hope that there will be significant change on this in the US legal arena in my lifetime, even if the bigoted attitudes take longer to change.

81 Joanne  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:03:47pm

re: #38 EPR-radar

Sanford must be counting on voters who have very short attention spans, or who like to vote against their own interests.

SOP for Republicans these days.

But privatizing SS was never popular, which is why Bush dropped it like a hot potato. This is a gen election, right? He might win a primary with that tripe, but not a general.

82 freetoken  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:04:13pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

Even if sexual choices are not rooted in genetics, how does that excuse those who just want to hate?

And btw, how does Fischer know his brother is “straight as an arrow”?

83 engineer cat  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:05:03pm

re: #58 GeneJockey

And various of the prominent Climate Change Deniers are engineers, physicists, geologists. In other words, trained in Science, but not in Climate Science.

as a software engineer, i will prove the non existence of man made climate change by showing that the theory is NP-complete

84 EPR-radar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:05:55pm

re: #81 Joanne

But privatizing SS was never popular, which is why Bush dropped it like a hot potato. This is a gen election, right? He might win a primary with that tripe, but not a general.

This is an R-leaning district in South Carolina having a special election with a weak R candidate. Hard to predict.

85 freetoken  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:06:38pm

Genes are not destiny.

From the moment of fertilization through childhood, developmental factors shape what an organism becomes.

Fischer doesn’t care, of course. All he wants to do is play out his own hate, which very well may come from a lot of suppressed… well, desire.

86 Kid A  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:06:46pm

And then there is this, via HotAir…

I lost all respect for the gay rights movement as soon as they started referring to themselves as LGBT.

There may be some people who are born bi-sexual, but if there’s anywhere near as many of them as there are gay people, they’d demand their own separate movement, as they would have less in common with both gays and straights than gays and straights have in common with each other, in terms of the various dilemmas they face.

The vast majority of people who engage in bisexuality are heterosexuals engaging in deviant sexual behavior, most likely due to the fact that they were either sexually molested as children or lured into a bisexual experience at an impressionable age via peer pressure by deviant friends.

As far as the transgender crowd, these people are just plain freaks mutilating themselves. I don’t care if you’re the most flaming queen who ever lived, if you’re born a man, you’re still a man and you’ll never be anything else but a man. You can cut off your penis and grow breasts, but you’ll still have man hands, man shoulders, and man biceps.

I have nothing against gay people and believe that they are born that way. It’s a birth defect, nothing more nothing less. But the gay rights crowd can go to hell. They’re nothing but a bunch of anti-American Leftists trying to further undermine the Judeo-Christian values that serve as the foundation of the principles that this country was founded on.

They don’t give a crap about gay people. If feeding gay people into a wood chipper would bring about the destruction of Western Capitalism, they’d support that.

Stay classy, wingnuts!

87 jaunte  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:07:00pm

re: #62 CriticalDragon1177

ESPN’s Chris Broussard: homosexuality a sin. Watch voices of tolerance pulverize him to ashes. j.mp

88 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:08:19pm

re: #66 EPR-radar

One doesn’t have to be a climate scientist to recognize the fallacies the deniers engage in. Any reasonable capacity for critical thinking will do, and such critical thinking is often essential in technical disciplines.

Thus, the creationists and climate deniers with science degrees should know better (and usually do).

But supporting politically useful lies is a convenient way to cash out on credentials without having to do any real work.

A number of studies indicate that intelligent people highly confident in their abilities are the most likely to not deviate from preconceived ideas. Engineers are well trained algorithmic thinkers who are predisposed to see structure and design. With something like organic nature that admittedly looks designed, they will naturally look for a designer.

89 wrenchwench  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:09:29pm

re: #80 klys

I had to come back and reply to this, because what you highlight right here, this is what breaks my heart.

These are human beings. Lives. And never once have I heard any argument about the supposed harm that can even remotely explain the very real, very present harm that is being done to these people every day. The sick hatred that it perpetuates is disgusting and no, I don’t have to ‘tolerate’ intolerance by allowing it to be codified into law.

At least I have hope that there will be significant change on this in the US legal arena in my lifetime, even if the bigoted attitudes take longer to change.

When wingnuts feel persecuted, they have a sense of powerlessness that makes them feel like they can’t cause anyone any real harm, so they never even look to see if there’s a real person being hurt by their hate. And the feeling persecution makes them feel saintly for continuing. Like they are putting themselves in harm’s way. DARVO all the way.

90 Joanne  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:10:23pm

re: #68 Grackle

And then:

I understand thinking Tim Tebow is not a good pro QB. I don’t get the hatred for him. It springs from hatred for his religious conviction.
5:35 PM - 6 Nov 2011

Ben doesn’t get that football IS a religion to many people who could give two shits about his religion, but a bad pass? Blasphemy!

91 GeneJockey  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:10:47pm

re: #80 klys

These are human beings. Lives. And never once have I heard any argument about the supposed harm that can even remotely explain the very real, very present harm that is being done to these people every day. The sick hatred that it perpetuates is disgusting and no, I don’t have to ‘tolerate’ intolerance by allowing it to be codified into law.

You know, in over a decade of arguing this (and other things) on an archery/bowhunting forum, I STILL do not get why it is SO FUCKING IMPORTANT to them. I even joke “Do you suppose gay men sit around online discussing Bowhunters?”

I have never understood it, but there is something visceral in the response - hatred, fear, whatever. And they obsess on the mechanics of gay sex - “Do you know what they do to each other?” And of course, this leads inevitably to “You must be gay!”

I wish I knew what their issue is. They claim, of course, that it’s Biblical, but they don’t post thread after thread about the evils of adultery, or shellfish, so it’s pretty clear they simply use the Bible to make their hatred not only okay, but actually GOOD.

92 austin_blue  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:11:13pm

re: #85 freetoken

Genes are not destiny.

From the moment of fertilization through childhood, developmental factors shape what an organism becomes.

Fischer doesn’t care, of course. All he wants to do is play out his own hate, which very well may come from a lot of suppressed… well, desire.

Hard to explain how some Identicals have different handedness. There is no such thing as completely identical genomes.

93 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:14:04pm

re: #85 freetoken

Genes are not destiny.

From the moment of fertilization through childhood, developmental factors shape what an organism becomes.

Fischer doesn’t care, of course. All he wants to do is play out his own hate, which very well may come from a lot of suppressed… well, desire.

Ironic he has a homonymous last name to one of the most influential of the evolution proponents.

94 austin_blue  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:14:56pm

re: #91 GeneJockey

You know, in over a decade of arguing this (and other things) on an archery/bowhunting forum, I STILL do not get why it is SO FUCKING IMPORTANT to them. I even joke “Do you suppose gay men sit around online discussing Bowhunters?”

I have never understood it, but there is something visceral in the response - hatred, fear, whatever. And they obsess on the mechanics of gay sex - “Do you know what they do to each other?” And of course, this leads inevitably to “You must be gay!”

I wish I knew what their issue is. They claim, of course, that it’s Biblical, but they don’t post thread after thread about the evils of adultery, or shellfish, so it’s pretty clear they simply use the Bible to make their hatred not only okay, but actually GOOD.

Fear of The Other.

95 Joanne  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:15:10pm

re: #84 EPR-radar

This is an R-leaning district in South Carolina having a special election with a weak R candidate. Hard to predict.

R leaning doesn’t sound hard core teabagger territory to me. I don’t know the district but you have to be hard core GOP to want to privatize SS. No old folks there? I think no matter the district, but for where the baggers go, privatizing SS is a big time uphill battle.

But hey, I could be completely wrong.

96 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:17:04pm

re: #95 Joanne

R leaning doesn’t sound hard core teabagger territory to me. I don’t know the district but you have to be hard core GOP to want to privatize SS. No old folks there? I think no matter the district, but for where the baggers go, privatizing SS is a big time uphill battle.

But hey, I could be completely wrong.

Can I steal that as my sig?

——
But hey, I could be completely wrong.

97 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:18:10pm

Charles have you ever considered giving us the ability to have a one or two line signature autoplaced in our comments?

98 Joanne  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:19:06pm

re: #96 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Can I steal that as my sig?

——
But hey, I could be completely wrong.

Heh. Enjoy.

99 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:19:31pm

OT. My wife and I went to the New Orleans Jazz Festival yesterday (I was lucky enough to win tickets). The Dave Matthews set was amazing. I really do believe he and his bind are some of the most talented musicians on the planet. It poured rain during his entire set and most of the way home. Still had a great time though.

100 engineer cat  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:21:00pm

re: #93 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Ironic he has a homonymous last name to one of the most influential of the evolution proponents.

are you endorsing the homonymous agenda for destroying american society?

if this thing isn’t stopped, soon all words will sound the same

101 GeneJockey  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:21:38pm

re: #95 Joanne

I don’t know the district but you have to be hard core GOP to want to privatize SS. No old folks there? I think no matter the district, but for where the baggers go, privatizing SS is a big time uphill battle.

Hence Paul Ryan’s schtick of “But only if you’re younger than 55!” It allows current Olds to get “What I Worked For All My Life”, while punishing those younger layabouts for their profligacy.

Last year when I was 54, it seemed like a really shitty thing to do. Now, with me 55 and my wife 54, I’m on the fence. Of course, she turns 55 in May…

///

102 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:21:55pm

re: #100 engineer cat

are you endorsing the homonymous agenda for destroying american society?

if this thing isn’t stopped, soon all words will sound the same

Way to go dood.

103 freetoken  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:22:44pm

re: #94 austin_blue

Fear of The Other.

Yes, but also the fascination with what others find sexually stimulating has an element of voyeurism embedded in it.

And, it’s not just fear the other, but also fear of sex in general. Fundamentalists approaches their late antiquity magickal writings as sources of just that - magick. However, the magick won’t work if you don’t follow the forumula, and that includes 2300 year old hang-ups about sexuality in a particular group of religious leaders in one tiny corner of the planet.

Even the 1st century writings, including the NT, rarely touches this subject. I can think of only one NT reference that explicitly addresses the issue (and yes, it is condemnatory), but the whole passage condemns various practices that many people today think nothing of.

Using the religious mumbo-jumbo as a way of covering up their own fears and hang-ups (and voyeurism) is what Fischer et. al. practice.

104 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:24:29pm

re: #103 freetoken

Yes, but also the fascination with what others find sexually stimulating has an element of voyeurism embedded in it.

And, it’s not just fear the other, but also fear of sex in general. Fundamentalists approaches their late antiquity magickal writings as sources of just that - magick. However, the magick won’t work if you don’t follow the forumula, and that includes 2300 year old hang-ups about sexuality in a particular group of religious leaders in one tiny corner of the planet.

Even the 1st century writings, including the NT, rarely touches this subject. I can think of only one NT reference that explicitly addresses the issue (and yes, it is condemnatory), but the whole passage condemns various practices that many people today think nothing of.

Using the religious mumbo-jumbo as a way of covering up their own fears and hang-ups (and voyeurism) is what Fischer et. al. practice.

You could write an entire book about the psychology of religious fundamentalists.

105 Joanne  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:24:48pm

re: #101 GeneJockey

Hence Paul Ryan’s schtick of “But only if you’re younger than 55!” It allows current Olds to get “What I Worked For All My Life”, while punishing those younger layabouts for their profligacy.

Last year when I was 54, it seemed like a really shitty thing to do. Now, with me 55 and my wife 54, I’m on the fence. Of course, she turns 55 in May…

///

Too bad for Lyin’ Ryan that he felt all our elders were as self-centered, prickish, sociopathic as he. Few are. Most care about their kids and grand kids. Go figure.

106 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:24:49pm

snerk…

107 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:26:17pm

Well, I suppose that if today’s high was indeed 9-fucking-8, 88 degrees is considered much cooler.

I think dinner is going to be out, preferably somewhere with AC.

108 Joanne  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:26:48pm

re: #104 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

More like psychopathy than psychology.

109 freetoken  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:27:01pm

re: #107 klys

It’s been a very warm and dry spring here in SD. Too warm and too dry - the loquats are in sad shape.

110 thedopefishlives  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:28:09pm

re: #107 klys

Well, I suppose that if today’s high was indeed 9-fucking-8, 88 degrees is considered much cooler.

I think dinner is going to be out, preferably somewhere with AC.

Wednesday’s high here is going to be 43. Care to visit?

111 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:28:25pm

re: #110 thedopefishlives

Wednesday’s high here is going to be 43. Care to visit?

Yes.

112 thedopefishlives  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:28:44pm

re: #111 klys

Yes.

Snow on Friday, still game?

113 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:29:12pm

The next time someone comments on how nice the weather in the SF Bay Area must be, I’m not responsible for my actions. Just saying.

114 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:29:35pm

re: #112 thedopefishlives

Snow on Friday, still game?

I’ll even shovel for you.

115 engineer cat  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:29:36pm

the iphone tells me it’s 77 and sunny outside, but i can’t tell because i am trapped in the cube farm breathing air conditioning set to 62 degrees

116 thedopefishlives  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:29:52pm

re: #114 klys

I’ll even shovel for you.

Wow. Now that’s an offer I can’t refuse.

117 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:29:57pm

re: #113 klys

erh.noaa.gov It is raining in Philly. :(

118 GeneJockey  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:29:57pm

re: #113 klys

The next time someone comments on how nice the weather in the SF Bay Area must be, I’m not responsible for my actions. Just saying.

Well, I’m glad I saw THAT before I hit ‘submit’!

119 Joanne  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:30:35pm

re: #112 thedopefishlives

Snow on Friday, still game?

Does she have to walk barefoot, backwards, and uphill - both ways?

120 engineer cat  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:30:44pm

re: #113 klys

The next time someone comments on how nice the weather in the SF Bay

the weather on which street?

121 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:31:56pm

re: #118 GeneJockey

Well, I’m glad I saw THAT before I hit ‘submit’!

I get to live in that tiny microclimate that is frequently 5 degrees warmer than everywhere else. But still no AC. And I hate the heat (you might be able to tell) and it is 80 degrees in the house (which is still cooler than outside but that’s not saying much) and I am very bitchy as a result.

Apologies to all the Lizards. My mother just laughed at me.

122 freetoken  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:32:10pm
123 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:32:31pm

re: #109 freetoken

It’s been a very warm and dry spring here in SD. Too warm and too dry - the loquats are in sad shape.

You live in SD, eh? That’s just a hop, skip and a jump from me.

124 wrenchwench  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:32:33pm
125 freetoken  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:33:53pm

re: #123 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

You live in SD, eh? That’s just a hop, skip and a jump from me.

That’s San Diego, not South Dakota.

126 GeneJockey  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:36:23pm

re: #122 freetoken

Speaking of sex in antiquity:

Uncovered: Ritual public drunkenness and sex in ancient Egypt

And look what happened to them! The Egyptian Empire fell!!!

Sure, it took thousands of years for that to happen, but still….

127 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:36:34pm

re: #125 freetoken

That’s San Diego, not South Dakota.

Yah, ruin my fun. Way to go.

Are there no lizards near central Canuckistan?

128 Joanne  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:37:37pm

re: #127 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Yah, ruin my fun. Way to go.

Are there no lizards near central Canuckistan?

Sorry…western eastern Canuckistan here.

129 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:39:10pm

re: #128 Joanne

Sorry…western eastern Canuckistan here.

Actually I forgot about Jolo who is just 250 kms away.

Is western eastern Canuckistan anywhere near SK?

130 bratwurst  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:39:59pm

re: #124 wrenchwench

Now Tim Brando is trying to play this for “tune in factor”:

131 thedopefishlives  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:40:54pm

re: #127 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Yah, ruin my fun. Way to go.

Are there no lizards near central Canuckistan?

Define central. Presumably you know whereabouts I am.

132 Kid A  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:41:01pm

Tim Brando hasn’t been relevant since, well, never actually.

133 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:42:43pm

re: #131 thedopefishlives

Define central. Presumably you know whereabouts I am.

Sask/Alta/Man

134 thedopefishlives  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:44:24pm

re: #133 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Sask/Alta/Man

You’re a little ways over from the fishbowl, which is just southwest of the Twin Cities metro in Minnesota (the “wild north country”).

135 DelusionDeluge  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:45:17pm

Thankfully for the gay movement there are less and less Ben Shapiros out there to impede progress. Normandy Ben and his ilk are storming the beaches and finding them occupied by generations of people who could give a flip that they showed up.

136 Joanne  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:45:18pm

re: #129 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Actually I forgot about Jolo who is just 250 kms away.

Is western eastern Canuckistan anywhere near SK?

No, I’m in western ON (hence western eastern :-)~

137 Minor_L  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:46:42pm

re: #64 Grackle

I’ve seen lots of talk on Twitter about how oppressed Christians are (in the context of, “we get crapped on for saying we’re Christian, and Jason Collins gets called a hero for saying he’s gay!”). One of the comments was that Tebow got hammered for being Christian. This is, of course, the complete opposite of the truth. He got tons and tons of good press, including constant ESPN coverage, and it had nothing to do with his talent or abilities. It was all about his religion.

I don’t know which universe these people live in. It’s not the same one I do, where Christians are a prevailing majority, and have far more power than most other religious groups.

138 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:46:46pm

re: #136 Joanne

No, I’m in western ON (hence western eastern :-)~

I thought you might be in MB.

139 Amory Blaine  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:46:53pm

Anyone else see the talking fetus “abortion hurts” commercial?

140 Kragar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:47:02pm

Fox News host Geraldo Rivera: GOP crippled by right wing radio hosts

On HuffPost Live, Rivera described those who listened to conservative hosts like Rush Limbaugh as “absolutists” who were fond of the 1950s. He said Republicans could never hope to regain the White House if they pandered to such demographics, who were stubbornly opposed to immigration reform and same-sex marriage.

“I think talk radio has driven the platform drafters in the GOP for at least the last several election cycles,” Rivera continued.

Rivera warned right wing radio had “helped cripple the GOP” through its influence on the party. He said Mitt Romney was defeated “right out of the gate” because of the conservative party platform that Republicans approved in 2012.

141 Joanne  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:48:39pm

re: #139 Amory Blaine

Anyone else see the talking fetus “abortion hurts” commercial?

OFFS.

142 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:49:33pm

re: #134 thedopefishlives

You’re a little ways over from the fishbowl, which is just southwest of the Twin Cities metro in Minnesota (the “wild north country”).

I watched the Yanks hammer the Twins there back in the ’70s. I was impressed with the number of turtles crossing the road.

143 Amory Blaine  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:49:35pm

re: #139 Amory Blaine

Anyone else see the talking fetus “abortion hurts” commercial?

144 engineer cat  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:52:31pm

i tried a little ‘stupid user tricks’ stress testing on lgf just like i’ve been doing to our application here at work, but nothing bad happened

i never get to have any fun

145 thedopefishlives  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:52:46pm

re: #142 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

I watched the Yanks hammer the Twins there back in the ’70s. I was impressed with the number of turtles crossing the road.

One of the first news stories on the TV when I moved here was a moose running around the downtown area. I knew I was in trouble then.

146 HoosierHoops  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:54:35pm

OK..It’s on
Fuck Ben and Fisher.
I’ll be finding the best forum to challenge the smear of a brave man by them.
I’m angry about this.. Really angry.
Yes, It’s on and I’ve only begun to fight and they ain’t going to like it.
BTW.. There was another gay basketball player who came out after his retirement and I need to research the facts cause I forgot his name.
Jason is the first Active player to come out and he revealed courage that the jerks on the right have never known..
Yes..It’s fucking on.. I’m pissed and you all know me..I’m seldom pissed about anything..I played ball for 2 colleges and know how difficult this was for Jason. Locker rooms can be fun and brutal..
If I were gay I could never have the courage Jason has exhibited.

147 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:55:21pm

re: #104 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

You could write an entire book about the psychology psychosis of religious fundamentalists.

FTFY.

148 Bubblehead II  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:57:43pm

Night Lizards. A message to the radical Right Wing Crowd.

I am am not only a 80’s survivalist, but a Social Liberal and I have weapons.

I know how to use them.

There are others like me out there. They to know how to use them as well.

Think long and hard about it. Do you really want to go this path?

Sleep well.

149 The Dude Abides  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:58:10pm

re: #95 Joanne

R leaning doesn’t sound hard core teabagger territory to me. I don’t know the district but you have to be hard core GOP to want to privatize SS. No old folks there? I think no matter the district, but for where the baggers go, privatizing SS is a big time uphill battle.

But hey, I could be completely wrong.

I believe this district went for Romney 58-42, or something very close to that. In last week’s PPP poll, Colbert-Busch was leading Sanford by nine points.

150 freetoken  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:58:11pm

Your child’s brain on math: Don’t bother?

Parents whose children are struggling with math often view intense tutoring as the best way to help them master crucial skills, but a new study released on Monday suggests that for some kids even that is a lost cause.

According to the research, the size of one key brain structure and the connections between it and other regions can help identify the 8- and 9-year olds who will hardly benefit from one-on-one math instruction.

“We could predict how much a child learned from the tutoring based on measures of brain structure and connectivity,” said Vinod Menon, a professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at Stanford University School of Medicine, who led the research.

The study, published in the online edition of Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, is the first to use brain imaging to look for a connection between brain attributes and the ability to learn arithmetic. But despite its publication in a well-respected journal, the research immediately drew criticism.

[…]

The PNAS paper:

Neural predictors of individual differences in response to math tutoring in primary-grade school children

Now, more than ever, the ability to acquire mathematical skills efficiently is critical for academic and professional success, yet little is known about the behavioral and neural mechanisms that drive some children to acquire these skills faster than others. Here we investigate the behavioral and neural predictors of individual differences in arithmetic skill acquisition in response to 8-wk of one-to-one math tutoring. Twenty-four children in grade 3 (ages 8–9 y), a critical period for acquisition of basic mathematical skills, underwent structural and resting-state functional MRI scans pretutoring. A significant shift in arithmetic problem-solving strategies from counting to fact retrieval was observed with tutoring. Notably, the speed and accuracy of arithmetic problem solving increased with tutoring, with some children improving significantly more than others. Next, we examined whether pretutoring behavioral and brain measures could predict individual differences in arithmetic performance improvements with tutoring. No behavioral measures, including intelligence quotient, working memory, or mathematical abilities, predicted performance improvements. In contrast, pretutoring hippocampal volume predicted performance improvements. Furthermore, pretutoring intrinsic functional connectivity of the hippocampus with dorsolateral and ventrolateral prefrontal cortices and the basal ganglia also predicted performance improvements. Our findings provide evidence that individual differences in morphometry and connectivity of brain regions associated with learning and memory, and not regions typically involved in arithmetic processing, are strong predictors of responsiveness to math tutoring in children. More generally, our study suggests that quantitative measures of brain structure and intrinsic brain organization can provide a more sensitive marker of skill acquisition than behavioral measures.

Will these types of discoveries change education?

151 bratwurst  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:58:34pm

re: #146 HoosierHoops

BTW.. There was another gay basketball player who came out after his retirement and I need to research the facts cause I forgot his name.

John Amaechi

152 Mentis Fugit  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:58:42pm

I wonder how Bryan Fischer accounts for the fact that identical twins do not have identical fingerprints. “Jesus did it”?

153 DelusionDeluge  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 5:59:16pm

re: #146 HoosierHoops

Be proud that the reaction to this has been mostly positive across most spectra, especially in the NBA. It’s a sure sign of progress that David Stern, Kobe Bryant et al are celebrating with Jason today. As the persecuted pissants watch their influence and ideas swept aside by history, they will bray with all their might. It’s ugly and upsetting, but more sad than anything. No use wasting stress on these peculiar creatures on their road to the dustbins of history.

154 freetoken  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 6:00:05pm

More on brain wiring:


Do you obsess over your appearance? Your brain might be wired abnormally

Body dysmorphic disorder is a disabling but often misunderstood psychiatric condition in which people perceive themselves to be disfigured and ugly, even though they look normal to others. New research at UCLA shows that these individuals have abnormalities in the underlying connections in their brains.

Dr. Jamie Feusner, the study’s senior author and a UCLA associate professor of psychiatry, and his colleagues report that individuals with BDD have, in essence, global “bad wiring” in their brains — that is, there are abnormal network-wiring patterns across the brain as a whole.

[…]

155 prairiefire  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 6:02:16pm

Hello, lizardum, I hope all is well. We continue with our suburban prairie fight with the critters as I had to remove a Robin’s nest from the dryer vent today.

156 BigPapa  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 6:03:46pm

What a good start to the week. Cambridge man giving an Alex Jones douche the only response he deserves, and a pro player finally came out.

I hope there’s more of both. A lot more.

157 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 6:04:18pm

re: #150 freetoken

Your child’s brain on math: Don’t bother?

The PNAS paper:

Neural predictors of individual differences in response to math tutoring in primary-grade school children

Will these types of discoveries change education?

The right already complains about new math.

158 jaunte  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 6:06:49pm

Ben Shapiro’s incredible shrinking character:

159 kirkspencer  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 6:06:50pm

re: #152 Mentis Fugit

I wonder how Bryan Fischer accounts for the fact that identical twins do not have identical fingerprints. “Jesus did it”?

twins are not clones. (usually)

160 jaunte  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 6:07:54pm

You just don’t think he can get any smaller, and then he pulls it off.

161 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 6:08:00pm

Just when you thought Teh Stupid couldn’t get any Stupider:

162 freetoken  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 6:09:43pm

re: #159 kirkspencer

Identical twins would originate from a single zygote.

This, btw, ought to be proof enough against those who argue that a zygote is a “person” a la Personhood Movement.

If a zygote is a person, are identical twins just one person?

163 freetoken  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 6:09:57pm

re: #161 Vicious Babushka

He even looks the part.

164 JeffFX  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 6:10:43pm

re: #158 jaunte

Ben Shapiro’s incredible shrinking character:

If that’s the lesson Ben took today, he obviously IS homophobic.

165 philosophus invidius  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 6:11:38pm

re: #162 freetoken

They were one person, then became two?

166 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 6:13:10pm

re: #165 philosophus invidius

The

one person, then became two?

One goes in, two come out.

167 Interesting Times  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 6:13:11pm

re: #91 GeneJockey

I have never understood it, but there is something visceral in the response - hatred, fear, whatever. And they obsess on the mechanics of gay sex - “Do you know what they do to each other?” And of course, this leads inevitably to “You must be gay!”

I wish I knew what their issue is.

The best explanation I’ve ever heard goes as follows:

“Homophobia: the fear gay men will treat you the way you treat women.”

168 engineer cat  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 6:14:13pm

re: #165 philosophus invidius

They were one person, then became two?

is this gonna be like homoiousian vs homoousian?

169 freetoken  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 6:15:14pm

re: #161 Vicious Babushka

Just when you thought Teh Stupid couldn’t get any Stupider:

His website says of him:

[…]

Mullen was obsessed with getting that information. President Gerald Ford had replaced Richard Nixon due to governmental coverups, and Mullen fired off a series of letters to Ford reminding him of his pledge to be open with the public. It was time to release those papers. It took multiple attempts, but Mullen eventually got those five thousand documents from Ford as he left office.

To a fledgling writer looking for a best selling book, Mullen had uncovered The Holy Grail. Senior editors from every major publisher in the country contacted him. A movie studio called Mullen and work and told him, “Do not sign with anyone until we get the last bid.”

And then…IT happened.

Mullen was supernaturally pulled from his body by the man whose image was embedded in the Shroud of Turin. The Shroud Man told Mullen, “Do not write that (U.S.S. Indianapolis). Write this.” Thus began a series of supernatural encounters lasting over three decades that resulted in the book, “War of the Angels.” Mullen’s writing career came to a grind and War of theAngels became more than a book. It was a movement. A popular website with a “supernatural” message board visited by millions, WOTA Radio and more.

Now, the Shroud Man is returning Michael to his journalistic roots. He has recently published “Angel of Lake Placid,” and “Adventures of a Bubba in Greater Metropolitan Gnaw Bone.” But the ultimate project being demanded of Mullen by the Shroud Man is, “War of the Angels II: Reign of the Antichrist.”

It is well underway.

Okie-dokie…

170 prairiefire  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 6:17:07pm

re: #163 freetoken

He even looks the part.

Hey, FT, I’ve read an article on genealogy that says most likely 10’s of thousands of Americans are cousins of President Obama. He has about 16 Rev. War Vets in his lineage. I will make a page soon with all of these old surnames. Who knows,maybe another lizard is related.
Apparently, I will have to get in line for my family White House tour!

171 freetoken  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 6:21:12pm

re: #170 prairiefire

I wouldn’t be surprised if I am. I have several ancestors who were in the Revolution, and many of their ancestors were here much earlier.

And, it depends on what one means by “related”. 10th cousin?

Most Americans who have colonial ancestry that significantly predates 1776 will all be related somehow. If your ancestry goes back to 1609 then it will be hard to not be related to everybody else who has ancestors in the 17th century in NA.

172 Four More Tears  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 6:23:47pm

These same people were about to play a game where you shoot people up, set them on fire, and throw them off of a city flying 30,000 feet in the sky. Sometimes in that order…

Some Don’t Like BioShock’s Forced Baptism. Enough To Ask For A Refund.

173 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 6:24:18pm
I’m only surprised that Shapiro didn’t find a way to work in a hate-Obama angle too.

Wingnuts never disappoint.

174 prairiefire  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 6:24:25pm

re: #171 freetoken

For me, it is about a sixth or seventh cousin. We share a common grandfather who was born in 1728.

175 Kragar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 6:30:16pm

Jennifer Rubin goes after Ted Cruz

Sen. Ted Cruz’s (R-TX) recent antics in the Senate drew the ire of right-wing columnist and blogger Jennifer Rubin of the Washington Post on Monday.

After several Republican colleagues privately confronted the conservative firebrand over his effort to filibuster all debate on expanding background checks, Cruz broke protocol and recounted to a gathering of Texas tea partiers that he had called them “squishes” not worthy of the cause.

“There is being principled, and then there is being a jerk,” Rubin wrote. “Putting down your colleagues to boost your own street cred with the base falls into the latter category.”

Image: stephen-colbert-popcorn-gif.gif

176 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 6:41:59pm
177 AlexRogan  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 6:44:09pm

re: #140 Kragar

Fox News host Geraldo Rivera: GOP crippled by right wing radio hosts

I’d normally say that Geraldo can eat a bag of dicks on a lot of stuff, but this is his “broken clock” moment.

Too bad he can’t have more of them.

178 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 6:45:23pm

I keep replaying that Cambridge Guy Confronts Infowars over and over.

179 EPR-radar  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 6:46:47pm

re: #150 freetoken

Learning math is a strange thing. In my own experience, in high school I was briefly in an enriched math learning program where more advanced material than normal grade-level was taught. At that time, I simply did not get it, at all. Later on, I ended up learning that same material in college without trouble.

It is also remarkable that math is one of the few fields where authentic child prodigies exist —- some few really do seems to be nearly hard-wired for math.

180 AlexRogan  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 6:46:57pm

re: #161 Vicious Babushka

Just when you thought Teh Stupid couldn’t get any Stupider:

Whoops…forgot an “as” in there.

181 freetoken  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 6:48:16pm

Christianity Today publishes an article that is very similar to one they did weeks ago, covering essentially the same territory … makes me wonder if they are being driven by a doctrinal agenda or simply trying to get web hits knowing it will be a hot topic for their religious readers:

A New Creation Story

Christian homeschool science textbooks have long taught young earth creationism (YEC) almost exclusively. But observers say a growing number of parents want texts that also teach evolution.

“Homeschooling has broadened so much, and now includes many Christian groups who have never adopted [YEC],” said homeschool pioneer Susan Wise Bauer, a history professor at Virginia’s College of William and Mary. “Also, there are a lot of younger evangelicals who have come to a different way of understanding Genesis, while still holding [on to their] evangelical roots.”

Numbers on the trend are hard to pin down. Still, BioLogos president Deborah Haarsma says that it’s “fairly common” for homeschooling families to request materials from her organization, which promotes theistic evolution. Some of these parents still believe in a young earth, says program director Kathryn Applegate, but they want their children exposed to different perspectives.

Doug Hayworth, coordinator of homeschool science resources for the American Scientific Affiliation, agrees. Inquiries to his Christian association reveal not a wave of old-earth converts, but instead frustrated young-earth believers who believe that “the standard [YEC] curricula … are very strident,” said Hayworth, who homeschools. “They’re looking for some advice.

[…]

It’s beginning to look like Templeton (funders of Biologos) are getting their way at CT. Evangelicals are trying to adapt to the modern worldview in some ways, but the bridge is tenuous at best.

However, let’s go on:

[…] Sonlight Curriculum is an exception. It offers a diversity of homeschool curricula that allow parents to teach various theories of origins. “The YEC position is strong and ingrained in the homeschool movement,” said Sonlight president Sarita Holzmann, who homeschools her children and believes in a young earth. “That might be to our detriment.” She says students need to be able to evaluate different positions.

BJU Press, one of the largest providers of Christian homeschooling resources, said demand for its YEC curriculum remains strong—and it already includes other viewpoints. “We don’t hedge on [YEC] at all,” said Brad Batdorf, who supervises authors of 7th to 12th grade curriculum. “We talk about other views … [and] even go so far as to give some scriptures they use. But then we present what we feel is the strongest, most supportable position.”

[…]

That some homeschoolers are looking for non-YEC material sounds nice, until one realizes that they are still in the minority, given what the publishers have said.

182 Mattand  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 6:51:14pm

re: #177 AlexRogan

I’d normally say that Geraldo can eat a bag of dicks on a lot of stuff, but this is his “broken clock” moment.

Too bad he can’t have more of them.

Eh. I wouldn’t put too much stock in his statements. IIRC, he was making noises about running for office as a Republican. The cynic in me says this is a calculated gamble to appeal to moderates.

183 AlexRogan  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 6:53:39pm

re: #182 Mattand

Eh. I wouldn’t put too much stock in his statements. IIRC, he was making noises about running for office as a Republican. The cynic in me says this is a calculated gamble to appeal to moderates.

He may be trying to set himself up as a “moderate” for some run for office after his media career, but it doesn’t make what he said in this instance any less true.

184 jaunte  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 6:55:30pm
185 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 6:58:37pm

DERP

186 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 6:59:53pm

re: #21 PhillyPretzel

That Fischer person has a lot to learn about DNA. Just because someone has a twin does not necessarily mean that they are a duplicate of the other. Maybe he should study some more biology than the bible.

And moreover, why does it matter what gender which twin prefers to have sex with? It clearly crucial to Bryan Fischer, but it shouldn’t be.

187 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 7:01:43pm

re: #185 Vicious Babushka

DERP

BENGHAAAAZZZII!!!11

188 Kid A  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 7:06:35pm

These people really need to get laid:

189 Kid A  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 7:12:03pm

Well, I guess it’s post-a-tweet fail night for the iPhone. More TEH GAYZ craziness.

190 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 7:12:28pm

re: #188 Kid A

These people really need to get laid:

Maybe, but I’d pity the woman who accepted that job. And yes I said ‘job’; With his repulsive personality and unimpressive looks, the only way Ben Shapiro is getting any action is if the lady’s time is bought and paid for!

191 Kid A  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 7:14:13pm

Okay Lizardom, I’m clicking the copy tweet link and pasting it here, but nothing is showing up. I’m doing this via iPhone, and have never had problems before?

Any ideas?

192 Kid A  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 7:16:22pm
193 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 7:16:50pm

I’m having pretzels with a mayo-horseradish-ketchup based dipping sauce (think Outback) and watching the posts go by and by… I really love to watch them roll.

Lizards are the best!

RBS

194 Kid A  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 7:18:28pm

Heh. About little Bennie…

195 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 7:18:58pm

DERP


This is the reason Donald Trump hates wind farms.

196 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 7:23:05pm

re: #195 Vicious Babushka

I agree. Good Night to my fellow Lizards.

197 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 7:23:58pm

re: #195 Vicious Babushka

DERP


This is the reason Donald Trump hates wind farms.

[snicker]

198 Joanne  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 7:25:23pm

re: #195 Vicious Babushka

Woe that I have but one upding to give.

199 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 7:25:57pm

re: #195 Vicious Babushka

DERP


This is the reason Donald Trump hates wind farms.

That’s funny. Last summer I took part in RAGBRAI (an annual bicycle ride across Iowa (10,000 cyclists taking part), and saw windmills for miles and miles. I really didn’t think it ruined anything, and as far as I know, nobody I talked to thought otherwise. All I can say is they were a LOT bigger than I thought they were.

RBS
Who pedals his tail for recreation.

200 jaunte  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 7:27:08pm

re: #195 Vicious Babushka

Plus, greed.
A wind farm might change the view from his golf course, and cost him a few bucks.

201 Joanne  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 7:29:09pm

re: #199 RealityBasedSteve

The first time I drove from SoCal into SanFran, I almost crashed countless times when I came upon the wind farms. Miles of different kinds of windmills. It was so beautiful, stunning actually.

Unlike Trump who is ugly inside and out.

202 Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 7:31:43pm

Jason Collins wrote a goddamn gorgeous piece there.

He’s also a pretty terrible player.

But that doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter for two reasons: One, he’s still active, Boston might sign him again, and being a ‘terrible’ NBA player means you’re a world-class athlete.

Two, it gives straight athletes who are cool with gay people a chance to step up publicly and say “I’m alright with this. I support this guy.”

And a lot of them are:

Image: 7x8tABe.png

“I am extremely happy and proud of Jason Collins,” Rivers said in a statement on Monday. “He’s a pro’s pro. He is the consummate professional and he is one of my favorite ‘team’ players I have ever coached. If you have learned anything from Jackie Robinson, it is that teammates are always the first to accept. It will be society who has to learn tolerance. One of my favorite sayings is: ‘I am who I am, are who we are, can be what I want to be. [It’s] not up to you, it’s just me being me.’”

Image: JKtl7P0.png

Image: 2rYyOEA.png

This could really be a watershed moment.

203 Kid A  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 7:35:03pm

Sadly, we knew this would happen…

204 Kid A  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 7:40:33pm

re: #202 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

30 teams x 12 players a team = 460 total players. There are over 120 division 1 college teams, not counting the smaller schools, and I’m not even counting the international players. I think there are three rounds in the NBA draft every year for a total of 90 players drafted, and maybe 30% amount to anything remotely above average.

My point is that it is pretty fucking hard to make it in the NBA.

You rock, Jason Collins.

205 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 7:44:20pm

Steven Spielberg’s Obama

206 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 7:45:04pm
207 Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 7:45:24pm

re: #204 Kid A

I really loved what Rivers had to say. Tying it to Jackie Robinson is great, as is saying that Collins is a team player. Collin’s job is to go in at the end of the game and get six fouls. But he can’t just waste those, they’ve got to be when the drive is about to lead to a score. It’s still a complex job that requires athleticism. And it takes a certain kind of humility to do, and a definite sense of teamwork.

208 Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 7:47:45pm

re: #206 lawhawk

I have only one nitpick, and that’s that doctors with DO after their name are not quacks. Doctor of Osteopathy makes you just as much a medical doctor as MD.

209 Kid A  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 7:49:22pm

I absolutely agree, and I have tears in my eyes as I just read his column.

But I don’t let my race define me any more than I want my sexual orientation to. I don’t want to be labeled, and I can’t let someone else’s label define me.

God bless this man.

210 Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 7:51:56pm

re: #206 lawhawk

Also, there is such thing as Western medicine. It tends to be pharmacologically based long-term, with interventionist responses to crisis. People really do practice legitimate medicine differently in other places, where more of a concept of whole-body wellness rather than a doctor responding to illness, and less of a dependence on pharmacopiea. We’ve actually been trying to promote the concept in the West for quite awhile now, with mixed results. In the US, a lot of the resistance to changing that is the procedure-based remuneration system, which cheats primary care doctors and over-rewards specialists.

211 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 7:59:16pm

re: #207 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

I really loved what Rivers had to say. Tying it to Jackie Robinson is great, as is saying that Collins is a team player. Collin’s job is to go in at the end of the game and get six fouls. But he can’t just waste those, they’ve got to be when the drive is about to lead to a score. It’s still a complex job that requires athleticism. And it takes a certain kind of humility to do, and a definite sense of teamwork.

It’s a breakthrough, but I don’t rate Collins on Robinson’s level. Jackie Robinson was the ‘first first’, if you will, and broke the color barrier at a time when bigotry was much more open and more openly deadly. Moreover, there is the fact that Collins could conceal or even simply not act on his sexual preferences. Jackie Robinson, by contrast, was visibly black and could not hide who he was.

For those reasons, while I think Jason Collins is a good and brave man and a good athlete, I do feel that Jackie Robinson’s entering major league baseball was a greater feat of courage than Collins’ coming out as gay.

/No disrespect intended, just my two cents.

212 Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 8:01:19pm

re: #211 Dark_Falcon

Jesus, it’s not a fucking competition.

213 Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 8:03:33pm

In a way, I can see it being harder for a not-that-great player to come out. A totally dominant guy could come out and a lot of people would support him based on that skill. Instead, Collins has to deal with people rumoring that he only revealed this because he’s nearing the end of his career and blah blah.

Well, if this basketball thing winds down, I think he can take up writing, because the man can tug at some heartstrings.

214 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 8:06:22pm

re: #213 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

In a way, I can see it being harder for a not-that-great player to come out. A totally dominant guy could come out and a lot of people would support him based on that skill. Instead, Collins has to deal with people rumoring that he only revealed this because he’s nearing the end of his career and blah blah.

Well, if this basketball thing winds down, I think he can take up writing, because the man can tug at some heartstrings.

Agreed.

215 Kid A  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 8:07:19pm

Remember, Branch Rickey signed Jackie not because he was the best player, but because he was the right player. He was the only one (in Rickey’s eyes) that could handle what inevitably happened. I can’t believe I live in a country that was that backwards back then.

217 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 8:20:00pm

re: #107 klys

Well, I suppose that if today’s high was indeed 9-fucking-8, 88 degrees is considered much cooler.

I think dinner is going to be out, preferably somewhere with AC.

Yeah, it was a nice 95 here in sunny central CCC. I’m up against a hill so I run 6F above the airport, which is only 1 mile away. I fear it may be a brutal summer for CA.

218 AlexRogan  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 8:21:33pm

re: #215 Kid A

Remember, Branch Rickey signed Jackie not because he was the best player, but because he was the right player. He was the only one (in Rickey’s eyes) that could handle what inevitably happened. I can’t believe I live in a country that was that backwards back then.

John McClain of the Houston Chronicle relayed pretty much the same story to one of our local radio sports shows here in Nashville (he’s on a couple of times a week and has been for years, since the Oilers moved here and became the Titans) on more than one occasion lately, coming at it from the side of the Negro League players.

I’m paraphrasing a bit here, but some of the Negro League players were being honored in a ceremony up in Chicago some time ago and one of the local Chicago sports reporters (who is a friend of McClain’s) was interviewing them. McClain was sitting in on the interview and Robinson came up, because Robinson wasn’t on the Negro League all-star list; McClain asked about that and one of the players said something to the effect of “Robinson wasn’t a great player in the Negro League, but he was the right player to go to the majors because he was smart and had the temperament to handle the inevitable abuse.”

219 Kid A  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 8:34:59pm

I live in the Houston area, and have been reading McClain for years. The refreshing thing about McClain is that he never ever goes full metal on twitter with opinions like so many others. His dry humor and knowledge of football makes him a rare treasure. We’re very happy to have that voice if sanity at the Houston Chronicle.

220 palomino  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 8:40:56pm

re: #201 Joanne

The first time I drove from SoCal into SanFran, I almost crashed countless times when I came upon the wind farms. Miles of different kinds of windmills. It was so beautiful, stunning actually.

Unlike Trump who is ugly inside and out.

Spot on. Those windfarms in the desert on the way to Palm Springs are like a giant, if unintentional, art installation. A work of minimalist art, heightened by the starkness of the desert location. Like a work by Christo, but way better because it’s permanent, functional and actually looks cooler.

221 jaunte  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 8:53:39pm

Texas lege bravely fighting imaginary voter fraud.

222 jaunte  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 8:57:14pm

[Texas Attorney General] Greg Abbott claims 50 election fraud convictions since 2002

Half-true:

Looking at all 57 election fraud prosecutions from 2002 to 2012, we tallied up the resolutions (some had multiple outcomes, when charges were pursued as separate cases):

Specified as convictions: 26
Guilty plea resulting in conviction: 2
Deferred adjudication: 19
Pre-trial diversion: 10
Acquitted: 2
Dismissed: 4

223 bratwurst  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 8:59:20pm
224 Kid A  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 9:02:41pm

re: #223 bratwurst

Tweet of the year.

225 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 9:03:05pm

re: #223 bratwurst

We’ve already gotten that, thanks to Hollywood.

/Just having fun.

226 Gus  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 9:14:17pm

Must have been really brave for this millionaire NBA player to come out of the closet.

227 Kid A  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 9:15:36pm

Now that is some funny shit, DF. Thanks for the spewed adult beverage.

228 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 9:27:04pm

re: #226 Gus

Must have been really brave for this millionaire NBA player to come out of the closet.

Braver than anything I did in the military. At least Ivan wasn’t trying to kill me out of hate.

Hell, braver than probably ~90% of us ever have to deal with.

I’ve never known anyone, much less myself, for whom right vs easy was anything other than a bitch of a moment in their life…

229 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 9:51:50pm

Once again, I’m wishing for a WTF button.

230 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 10:12:11pm

re: #226 Gus

You probably should talk to your specialist about pain control dude…

And, with that, good night to all.

231 Gus  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 10:25:50pm

Testing.

232 Gus  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 10:41:25pm

re: #230 William Barnett-Lewis

You probably should talk to your specialist about pain control dude…

And, with that, good night to all.

You’re right. I am in pain. I can also barely walk. I have to keep my leg elevated otherwise I get edema in my right leg. I’ve been taking Ibuprofen for so long that my stomach make louder and louder noises every day. My foot feels like it has a mind of its own sometimes. Wobbling like a feather sometimes. Other times, I can feel no pain. I haven’t driven or left the house since the end of January. I also don’t have a specialist. I’m not that privileged. It hurts and I get to sleep on a couch with broken springs. So yeah, I don’t think I’ll be talking to my specialist about pain control, dude.

233 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 10:49:50pm

re: #232 Gus 802

Maybe it’s a stupid question, but do you at least have a pair of crutches?

234 CriticalDragon1177  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 10:50:26pm

re: #232 Gus 802

You’re right. I am in pain. I can also barely walk. I have to keep my leg elevated otherwise I get edema in my right leg. I’ve been taking Ibuprofen for so long that my stomach make louder and louder noises every day. My foot feels like it has a mind of its own sometimes. Wobbling like a feather sometimes. Other times, I can feel no pain. I haven’t driven or left the house since the end of January. I also don’t have a specialist. I’m not that privileged. It hurts and I get to sleep on a couch with broken springs. So yeah, I don’t think I’ll be talking to my specialist about pain control, dude.

Get well, soon Gus. I hope you’ll be able to walk again soon. I also really hope you’re able to get a better bed soon. Maybe that will help you sleep and get rid of some of the pain you’re experiencing. It sounds like you’re having some serious problems.

By the way, did you leave twitter? It seems that you’re account is no longer there.

235 Gus  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 10:52:45pm

re: #233 klys

Maybe it’s a stupid question, but do you at least have a pair of crutches?

Yes, I have crutches. Was hoping to use a cane by now. Just use one crutch though. I still owe the hospital for those crutches.

236 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 10:54:04pm

re: #235 Gus 802

Yes, I have crutches. Was hoping to use a cane by now. Just use one crutch though. I still owe the hospital for those crutches.

Ok. If you didn’t have, I was going to say, I have a pair from when I had some foot issues a while back and I could work out how to send them your direction.

I don’t suppose they’d let you return them in exchange for cancelling most of the bill.

237 Gus  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 10:55:16pm

re: #234 CriticalDragon1177

Get well, soon Gus. I hope you’ll be able to walk again soon. I also really hope you’re able to get a better bed soon. Maybe that will help you sleep and get rid of some of the pain you’re experiencing. It sounds like you’re having some serious problems.

By the way, did you leave twitter? It seems that you’re account is no longer there.

Thanks. Was thinking about going to a motel for a couple of days. Either that or replace this couch. Yeah, I left Twitter. Can’t handle it anymore. Part of it is the addiction thing. Yes, I’m in pain but my productivity sky rocketed. Just got tired of the constant complaining. Can’t handle that now. I know that might seem ironic to some. Considering.

238 CriticalDragon1177  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 10:58:06pm

re: #237 Gus 802

Sorry, to hear that. I was enjoying communicating with you there. Well, Get well soon, friend.

239 Gus  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:04:44pm

re: #236 klys

Ok. If you didn’t have, I was going to say, I have a pair from when I had some foot issues a while back and I could work out how to send them your direction.

I don’t suppose they’d let you return them in exchange for cancelling most of the bill.

I didn’t think it would be this bad. My guess is that they’re going to have to go in and reattach whatever I tore up.

240 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:08:51pm

re: #239 Gus 802

I didn’t think it would be this bad. My guess is that they’re going to have to go in and reattach whatever I tore up.

{{Gus}}

Seriously, if there is some kind of Lizard care package that would cheer you up, let us know. I’d be more than happy to chip something in and I think that’s the case for others too. Even if it’s just some badly Photoshopped pictures or something.

241 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:09:26pm

re: #240 klys

I say badly not because yours are bad but because my attempts would be.

242 Gus  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:10:05pm

re: #240 klys

{{Gus}}

Seriously, if there is some kind of Lizard care package that would cheer you up, let us know. I’d be more than happy to chip something in and I think that’s the case for others too. Even if it’s just some badly Photoshopped pictures or something.

:D I needed the laugh.

243 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:11:30pm

re: #242 Gus 802

:D I needed the laugh.

I could probably manage a patch of ice in the fires of hell for you.

Ok, I won’t lie, my Photoshop skills suck. It’d look pretty bad. But maybe the thought counts for something.

244 Gus  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:15:59pm

re: #243 klys

I could probably manage a patch of ice in the fires of hell for you.

Ok, I won’t lie, my Photoshop skills suck. It’d look pretty bad. But maybe the thought counts for something.

Funny. I’m trying fire and ice. Heating pad and ice. I like the heat now because it loosens up the flow. Sometimes, often than not, my foot also feels cold. Good times.

245 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:18:52pm

re: #244 Gus 802

Funny. I’m trying fire and ice. Heating pad and ice. I like the heat now because it loosens up the flow. Sometimes, often than not, my foot also feels cold. Good times.

Heat is supposed to encourage blood flow.

My feet are just normally cold, except on days like today when nothing is cold. I hate the heat.

246 Gus  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:26:48pm

re: #245 klys

Heat is supposed to encourage blood flow.

My feet are just normally cold, except on days like today when nothing is cold. I hate the heat.

That’s why I started doing the heat. Three weeks ago the swelling started from sitting on my butt doing computer work. Plus this weird chair I was using didn’t help. I kind of panicked. Took off the cast and almost felt kind of faint. Started doing heat baths. Keeping my leg up more. Got it on a heating pad now. I hate too hot and too cold. I like warm. If given a choice between too hot and too cold I prefer too hot. I was never like that in my youth. Now that I’m getting older I prefer the hotter climates.

247 Gus  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:27:52pm

re: #238 CriticalDragon1177

Sorry, to hear that. I was enjoying communicating with you there. Well, Get well soon, friend.

I’m in purge mode. Maybe it’s temporary. I can see a plus side to some of this.

248 klys  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:29:57pm

re: #246 Gus 802

That’s why I started doing the heat. Three weeks ago the swelling started from sitting on my butt doing computer work. Plus this weird chair I was using didn’t help. I kind of panicked. Took off the cast and almost felt kind of faint. Started doing heat baths. Keeping my leg up more. Got it on a heating pad now. I hate too hot and too cold. I like warm. If given a choice between too hot and too cold I prefer too hot. I was never like that in my youth. Now that I’m getting older I prefer the hotter climates.

You would probably appreciate CA right now then. Over 90 for the high today. I am just miserable instead. Nauseous, irritable, hot, bitchy, cranky, whatever.

On the plus side (hah), tomorrow’s high is only supposed to be 88.

249 plansbandc  Tue, Apr 30, 2013 12:28:11am

re: #195 Vicious Babushka

You made me chortle.

250 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 30, 2013 9:47:48am

re: #246 Gus

{{{Gus}}}


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Unshaken Defiance
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Masterpiece Theater-Little WomenTonight Masterpiece Theater presents Little Women. This latest production promises to be a good one with some well known actors and actresses. The March girls are played by relative unknowns. Please check your local PBS stations for the times in ...
PhillyPretzel
1 week, 4 days ago
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Ry Cooder - the Prodigal Son (Live in Studio) "The Prodigal Son", Ry' Cooder's first new solo release in six years, is set for release May 11, 2018! Pre-order / stream "The Prodigal Son" here: found.ee Directed by Jeff Coffman Follow Ry:Official Website: rycooder.comFacebook: facebook.comInstagram: instagram.com LYRICSnow, the ...
Thanos
1 week, 6 days ago
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Charlie Puth - ‘How Long’ [Official Video] Download and Stream "How Long": atlantic.lnk.to Pre-Order Voicenotes: atlantic.lnk.to Exclusive VoiceNotes Merchandise Bundles Available Here: smarturl.it Follow Charlie:charlieputh.comtwitter.comfacebook.cominstagram.com THE VOICENOTES TOURwith Charlie Puth and Hailee SteinfeldTickets & VIP: charlieputh.com #VoicenotesTour Dates:07/11 – Toronto, ON – Budweiser Stage07/13 – Boston, ...
Thanos
1 week, 6 days ago
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Welles - Rock N Roll [Audio Only] PreOrder Welles Album "Red Trees and White Trashes" featuring "Seventeen" and "Rock N Roll"ffm.to Listen to Rock N Roll: ffm.toListen to Seventeen: ffm.to CONNECT: wellesmusic.comfacebook.cominstagram.com@wellesmusic--ROCK N ROLLdoesn't eatdoesn't sleepdoes drugsjus shrugs & says leave me beROCK N ROLLis a ...
Thanos
2 weeks, 5 days ago
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WALK the MOON - Kamikaze (Official Video) Get WALK THE MOON's new album 'What If Nothing' featuring "Kamikaze" and "One Foot":iTunes - wtmband.comSpotify - wtmband.comApple Music - wtmband.comAmazon - wtmband.comGoogle Play - wtmband.comMerch Store - wtmband.com Catch WTM On Tour - wtmband.com Follow WALK THE MOON:walkthemoonband.comfacebook.com@WALKTHEMOONbandinstagram.com ...
Thanos
2 weeks, 5 days ago
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Trump Is Watching You Closer Than You Watch Him, Thanks NSA I would love to see my friends offer a string of sensible suggestions for protecting our meta data, our digital privacy as best we can in the comments. Technology cuts both ways. Corporation and governments have scale, money. We ...
Unshaken Defiance
2 weeks, 6 days ago
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