Right Wing Blogs Fall for Yet Another Ridiculous Daily Mail Unsourced Story

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Every single right wing blogger on the Innernets is freaking out today. Yes, again.

Would you believe they’re all falling for yet another unsourced story from UK tabloid The Daily Mail, claiming that Saudi Arabia sent a letter warning about the elder Tsarnaev brother in 2012? Universally falling for it, despite the fact that the Daily Fail’s coverage of the Boston bombings has been absolutely horrible, and ridiculously full of falsehoods?

Well, of course they are! Because they see it as an opportunity to attack the Obama administration again, and they have no credibility left to waste, so why not just go nuts?

Look at ‘em go again!

Meanwhile, both the Saudi government and the US government say the Daily Mail has failed again, coming as no surprise to anyone with half a brain (which excludes the entire right wing blogosphere): White House Denies Saudis Sent Warning About Boston Suspect.

The Obama administration on Wednesday strongly denied reports that Saudi Arabia warned U.S. law enforcement officials last year that Boston bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev posed a threat.

Saudi Arabia sent the Department of Homeland Security a letter in 2012 singling out Tsarnaev and three Pakistanis as potential jihadists, Britain’s Daily Mail reported, citing an unnamed Saudi official.

The Obama administration and the Saudi government said the story was false.

“We and other relevant U.S. Government agencies who deal with this kind of information have no record of any such letter being received,” National Security Council spokeswoman Caitlin Hayden told The Hill in a statement.

A Homeland Security official likewise said the agency “has no knowledge of any communication from the Saudi government regarding information on the suspects in the Boston Marathon Bombing prior to the attack.”

The Saudi embassy in Washington also denied the report, along with allegations that it rejected a visa application from Tsarnaev to make a pilgrimage to Mecca.

“The Saudi government had no prior information about the Boston bombers. Therefore, it is not true that any information, written or otherwise, was passed to U.S. Department of Homeland Security or any other U.S. agency in this regard,” the embassy said in a statement. “The Saudi government also does not have any record of any application by Tamerlan Tsarnaev for an Ummrah visa.”

Right Wing Blogs Turning to UK Tabloids; US Media Not Unreliable Enough

UPDATE at 5/1/13 11:31:09 am

OK, this is pretty funny; LGF right at the top of Memeorandum, followed by the deluge of right wing fail.

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167 comments

darthstar Wed, May 1, 2013 10:15:36am

Well, if Obama denies it, it must be true!
//

lawhawk Wed, May 1, 2013 10:18:56am

Repeated from the overnight thread:

You know, there’s another puzzling question (really, dozens) about this. You’ve got two American reporters, Miniter and Martsko, who have ready access to American media outlets, but instead chose to run the story in the Daily Mail. Is it easier to get lax reporting and thinly veiled hit pieces in the British media than American media outlets?

But another reason to be skeptical is that the byline on the Daily Mail report is that it’s by Martsko and the American Media Institute - not an individual. That normally doesn’t happen. AMI is a stand-in for Miniter, but if he was the contributing author to the story, why use AMI in the byline except to obfuscate.

Look, the actual story they reported is thinly sourced and contains enough caveats to question whether there’s anything actually there. They admit that they’ve got only one source, and never actually saw the original letter they claim the Saudis sent (and which the Saudis say doesn’t exist). DHS officials say they never saw any such letter, and the story even indicates that it’s possible that the White House never saw any such warnings.

In other words - there’s a whole lot of innuendo that someone dropped the ball, but not more. Someone could have dropped the ball, but it will take a whole lot more than this thinly-sourced article.

GeneJockey Wed, May 1, 2013 10:20:04am

re: #1 darthstar

Well, if Obama denies it, it must be true!
//

Sadly, that’s how it will go. Once the statement is out there from anywhere, no matter how unreliable, it becomes part of Wingnut Dogma, like the ‘Stand Down’ order in Benghazi, or the Saudi ‘Person Of Interest’ in Boston.

darthstar Wed, May 1, 2013 10:21:27am

Heh…just saw this on fb:
What’s the difference between Tim Tebow and Jason Collins?

Jason Collins is employed.

Image: 947298_10151648938086081_1187241845_n.jpg

Charles Johnson Wed, May 1, 2013 10:21:55am

re: #2 lawhawk

Miniter and Martosko are complete hacks, who’ve been caught lying many times. Miniter just makes shit up. Last time he was featured at LGF, he was claiming that Obama “called off the Osama bin Laden mission,” and had to be overridden by the military.

He’s a clown.

littlegreenfootballs.com

Feline Fearless Leader Wed, May 1, 2013 10:22:26am

re: #2 lawhawk

Simple. By employing US reporting the UK press (Daily Mail) can blame the Americans, and the US media can blame the British when it is decided that all this is an outrageous lie.

Besides the obvious question of how the Saudis know all these details about a couple of Central Asian bombers. Oh wait, it’s that Muslim ESP thing, isn’t it?
// :p

Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, May 1, 2013 10:25:10am

“The Saudi government also does not have any record of any application by Tamerlan Tsarnaev for an Ummrah visa.”

They will jump all over that as a carefully coached statement by the Saudis.

but it’s not saying there wasn’t ANOTHER kind of visa application!!!111!!!

Dr. Matt Wed, May 1, 2013 10:25:14am

So, teahadists believe a foreign newspaper/propaganda….because it fits their narrative. How telling.

GunstarGreen Wed, May 1, 2013 10:27:40am

re: #8 Dr. Matt

It’s not exactly new or surprising. I’d repeat my usual small government vs. Small Gub’mint™ spiel, but honestly… I think everyone gets the point by now.

It’s not about principles, it’s about being selfish, mean-spirited assholes.

Vicious Babushka Wed, May 1, 2013 10:31:45am

Media Matters:

Reasons To Be Wary Of The Daily Mail’s Saudi Letter “Exclusive”

Kragar Wed, May 1, 2013 10:32:14am

Rep. Issa: Christianity’s Roots Would Justify US Mission in Syria

Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., told reporters last Friday part of the reason he favors a US mission there is to preserve the region that was home to Christianity’s genesis.

“There’s a huge US interest in the region. Our commitment to the Levante is long-standing, partially because of our relationship with Israel and with Lebanon,” Issa told a handful of reporters after leaving a classified briefing on the Syria intel assessment and possible US options.

“Partially, if you will, because of this being an area of the Holy Land,” Issa added. “The oldest churches. So much of Christianity is there.”

Issa went on to describe other reasons he believes Washington should get involved in the civil conflict that the United Nations says has killed at least 70,000 people. But it is rare for US lawmakers to so bluntly urge combat operations for, in part, religious reasons.

Lots of reasons to take action in Syria. Christianity doesn’t even make it onto the list.

Eclectic Cyborg Wed, May 1, 2013 10:32:49am

re: #4 darthstar

Heh…just saw this on fb:
What’s the difference between Tim Tebow and Jason Collins?

Jason Collins is employed.

Image: 947298_10151648938086081_1187241845_n.jpg

In fairness to Tebow, from a football perspective he really, REALLY got shafted by the Jets.

Eclectic Cyborg Wed, May 1, 2013 10:33:57am

If these people enjoy writing fiction, why not go into the entertainment business?

erik_t Wed, May 1, 2013 10:34:29am

Why/how the fuck would the Saudis know anything about the Tsarnaevs? Was there some chatter on the Secret Muslim Terrorist Universal Network?

The story is laughable on its face, and does not improve with deeper consideration.

Charles Johnson Wed, May 1, 2013 10:34:41am

A little more context about Richard Miniter: he’s a supporter of European fascist groups.

Miniter Misrepresents LGF Vlaams Belang Posts (Aka Vlaams Belang Nazi Links)

Vicious Babushka Wed, May 1, 2013 10:35:39am

re: #13 Eclectic Cyborg

If these people enjoy writing fiction, why not go into the entertainment business?

Everyone knows that the easiest way to get fiction published is to promote it as “non-fiction.”

erik_t Wed, May 1, 2013 10:35:59am

re: #12 Eclectic Cyborg

In fairness to Tebow, from a football perspective he really, REALLY got shafted by the Jets.

Eh. He’s a rather shitty QB in the context of the professional game. Not worth spending any further words on him.

antpogo Wed, May 1, 2013 10:37:32am

So how, exactly, does this right-wing conspiracy theory pushed by these blogs fit with the other right-wing conspiracy theory pushed by these blogs about the Saudi student “suspect”?

Or are we not supposed to ask them that question?

HappyWarrior Wed, May 1, 2013 10:38:02am

re: #12 Eclectic Cyborg

In fairness to Tebow, from a football perspective he really, REALLY got shafted by the Jets.

He did but he’s just not that good. He’s already at a natural disadvantage being a left handed QB and at an even greater one being that he’s not accurate. Jets should have used him better but it’s not a travesty that he’s been cut either. If Tebow was a non-religious guy or even more quiet about his faith, the people who boost him up wouldn’t give two shits about him.

Eclectic Cyborg Wed, May 1, 2013 10:38:28am

re: #17 erik_t

Eh. He’s a rather shitty QB in the context of the professional game. Not worth spending any further words on him.

If he’s that terrible, how do you explain his managing to get Denver into the playoffs two seasons ago? Granted, I think he’s highly overrated, but with ability a bit above “terrible”.

GeneJockey Wed, May 1, 2013 10:38:36am

re: #13 Eclectic Cyborg

If these people enjoy writing fiction, why not go into the entertainment business?

“…because fiction has to make sense”

aagcobb Wed, May 1, 2013 10:38:58am

Three more suspects held in Boston bombing. Apparently college friends of Dzhokhar who aided him after the bombing.

Feline Fearless Leader Wed, May 1, 2013 10:39:21am

re: #12 Eclectic Cyborg

In fairness to Tebow, from a football perspective he really, REALLY got shafted by the Jets.

A friend on FB posted yesterday about now hating the Jets more than the Patriots due to Tebow being let go.

This nutty religious fanaticism controlling all viewpoints is sort of creepy.

aagcobb Wed, May 1, 2013 10:40:15am

re: #20 Eclectic Cyborg

If he’s that terrible, how do you explain his managing to get Denver into the playoffs two seasons ago? Granted, I think he’s highly overrated, but with ability a bit above “terrible”.

Denver has a really good defense. Look how much better their season was last year with Manning.

Eclectic Cyborg Wed, May 1, 2013 10:40:35am

Tebow’s ability aside, I believe the Jets really should have at least given him a chance at starter after Sanchez started to struggle. If Tebow bombed as well, then fine, lesson learned, but to not even give him a chance seemed like poor decision making by the team.

dragonath Wed, May 1, 2013 10:40:48am

The Daily Mail likes to publish stories about the Polish immigrant “threat” all the time. This brand of populism is why the UKIP is the third largest party in opinion polls right now.

Kragar Wed, May 1, 2013 10:41:28am

re: #21 GeneJockey

“…because fiction has to make sense”

As I keep finding out as I continue working on this indie film. I’ve been designated official plot hole detector.

Charles Johnson Wed, May 1, 2013 10:42:17am

David Martosko Rap Sheet. It’s not short.

Controversial Daily Caller Editor Admitted to Posing as Radical Animal Rights Activist | Mother Jones.

A first-class scumbag.

aagcobb Wed, May 1, 2013 10:42:25am

re: #25 Eclectic Cyborg

Tebow’s ability aside, I believe the Jets really should have at least given him a chance at starter after Sanchez started to struggle. If Tebow bombed as well, then fine, lesson learned, but to not even give him a chance seemed like poor decision making by the team.

Thay made a poor decision acquiring him. No need to compound the error by making him a starter when he would clearly fail. The NFL is a passing league, and Tebow isn’t a passer. Tebow is being treated the same way any other mediocre QB would be treated.

Feline Fearless Leader Wed, May 1, 2013 10:42:43am

re: #27 Kragar

As I keep finding out as I continue working on this indie film. I’ve been designated official plot hole detector.

Do you find them by stepping into them like Wile E Coyote?
:)

Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, May 1, 2013 10:43:09am

re: #23 Feline Fearless Leader

There you are! I wanted to tell you about the stray Siamese kitty who suddenly and suspiciously “got fat”.
Monday night, she showed up on the front porch looking rather svelte.
Yesterday morning, I found her out in the shop and I HEARD KITTENS!!!!
She has them buried somewhere deep in a pile of junk in the storage area, so I don’t expect to see them until after their eyes open and they start exploring sometime next week.

darthstar Wed, May 1, 2013 10:43:41am

re: #12 Eclectic Cyborg

In fairness to Tebow, from a football perspective he really, REALLY got shafted by the Jets.

I blame god.

HappyWarrior Wed, May 1, 2013 10:44:28am

re: #24 aagcobb

Denver has a really good defense. Look how much better their season was last year with Manning.

They also had the number one running offense that year. That goes a long way. And there was one game where the Broncos kicker made a 58 yard field goal. Tebow isn’t horrible but he didn’t get the Broncos in the playoffs. The Broncos got the Broncos in the playoffs and Tebow was yes a part of that but he wasn’t the only reason. Should also add that the AFC West that year was really weak. I think the JEts should have used Tebow more effectively honestly but he wasn’t going to make them a playoff team and he honestly doesn’t make any team a playoff team at this point.

lawhawk Wed, May 1, 2013 10:45:03am

re: #12 Eclectic Cyborg

In fairness to Tebow, he should have gone to Jacksonville when he had the chance. Now, no one is going to take him on.

Denver and the Jets have both seen that the guy is awful in practice, and that he’s even worse in gameday situations. A couple of miracle throws against a secondary whose corners fell down doesn’t make you a good quarterback.

The Jets didn’t do him any favors (aside from paying him far more than he’s worth to mostly sit on the bench - though he did play more than the average backup in the league).

It’s just that he’s not as good as any of the current backups in the league.

Oh, and Jets fans, get ready for the Geno Smith disaster. Guy’s already bitching he should have gone in the first round and fired his agent. Right. That’s going to be some attitude to work with.

Feline Fearless Leader Wed, May 1, 2013 10:45:21am

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

There you are! I wanted to tell you about the stray Siamese kitty who suddenly and suspiciously “got fat”.
Monday night, she showed up on the front front porch looking rather svelte.
Yesterday morning, I found her out in the shop and I HEARD KITTENS!!!!
She has them buried somewhere deep in a pile of junk in the storage area, so I don’t expect to see them until after their eyes open and they start exploring sometime next week.

You helping out with Mom’s nutrition in the meantime?

I’ve seen a few litters not end well due to the mother having issues with milk production. Comes from having friends who do foster care.

GeneJockey Wed, May 1, 2013 10:45:26am

re: #30 Feline Fearless Leader

Do you find them by stepping into them like Wile E Coyote?
:)

Then he holds up a little sign that says, “Uh-oh.” just before falling?

erik_t Wed, May 1, 2013 10:45:37am

re: #34 lawhawk

Oh, and Jets fans, get ready for the Geno Smith disaster. Guy’s already bitching he should have gone in the first round and fired his agent. Right. That’s going to be some attitude to work with.

I’d fire my agent too if I got drafted by the Jets.

Kragar Wed, May 1, 2013 10:45:47am

re: #30 Feline Fearless Leader

Do you find them by stepping into them like Wile E Coyote?
:)

Think of my more like Jay at the End of Dogma.

“What the fuck is this shit? Who the fuck are you, lady? Why the fuck did you hug my head? What the fuck is this, The Piano? Why ain’t this broad talking? What the fuck does that mean? Has everyone gone fuckin’ nuts? What the fuck happened to that guy’s head?”

Charles Johnson Wed, May 1, 2013 10:46:17am

Martosko is now the US Political Editor for the Daily Mail, by the way. Which explains why his bullshit story showed up there.

HappyWarrior Wed, May 1, 2013 10:47:39am

re: #34 lawhawk

In fairness to Tebow, he should have gone to Jacksonville when he had the chance. Now, no one is going to take him on.

Denver and the Jets have both seen that the guy is awful in practice, and that he’s even worse in gameday situations. A couple of miracle throws against a secondary whose corners fell down doesn’t make you a good quarterback.

The Jets didn’t do him any favors (aside from paying him far more than he’s worth to mostly sit on the bench - though he did play more than the average backup in the league).
t
It’s just that he’s not as good as any of the current backups in the league.

Oh, and Jets fans, get ready for the Geno Smith disaster. Guy’s already bitching he should have gone in the first round and fired his agent. Right. That’s going to be some attitude to work with.

Geno was upset that he didn’t go number one from what Mike Wilbon and Tony Kornheiser were saying yesterday. Don’t know what he’s smoking since it was apparent for a while that the Chiefs would go OL with their pick. If he feels he should have gone in Rd-1, then prove it on the football field and don’t come off as a whiny brat. That said, I’d like the Jets, Dolphins, and Bills to all look better so NE can’t walk away with the AFC East division all the time.

Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, May 1, 2013 10:47:56am

re: #35 Feline Fearless Leader

You helping out with Mom’s nutrition in the meantime?

I’ve seen a few litters not end well due to the mother having issues with milk production. Comes from having friends who do foster care.

yes, made special shopping trip this morning.
Also, even though she technically is NOT my cat, she’s off to the vet at earliest opportunity so this does not happen again.

Dr. Matt Wed, May 1, 2013 10:48:02am

re: #4 darthstar

Heh…just saw this on fb:
What’s the difference between Tim Tebow and Jason Collins?

Jason Collins is employed.

Image: 947298_10151648938086081_1187241845_n.jpg

When did the media imply Timmy should “keep it to himself”? Moreover, since when is Christianity a minority group, a protected class, or persecuted group?

HappyWarrior Wed, May 1, 2013 10:49:03am

re: #42 Dr. Matt

When did the media imply Timmy should “keep it to himself”? Moreover, since when is Christianity a minority group, a protected class, or persecuted group?

Hell if anything one could say the media’s gone overboard with the praise of Tebow for his Christianity. I am sorry but he’s not the first devout Christian to play in the NFL and being a devout Christian shouldn’t give him a pass for being a mediocre talent. Of course, I totally expect fundies to bitch if Collins has a job and Tebow doesn’t. The difference is of course that Collins knows he’s a role player at best and Tebow still thinks he’s starting material.

darthstar Wed, May 1, 2013 10:50:28am

Republican Rebranding FAIL #3241.5:

“It will virtually guarantee that it won’t pass,” Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), a member of the Gang of Eight negotiating group, told POLITICO in a brief interview. “This issue is a difficult enough issue as it is. I respect everyone’s views on it. But ultimately, if that issue is injected into this bill, the bill will fail and the coalition that helped put it together will fall apart.”

That issue? Teh GHEY!

GeneJockey Wed, May 1, 2013 10:51:10am

re: #42 Dr. Matt

Moreover, since when is Christianity a minority group, a protected class, or persecuted group?

The most discriminated-against group in America is straight white Christian males!!

I’ve actually seen that posted in all seriousness, a number of times. They actually believe it.

HappyWarrior Wed, May 1, 2013 10:51:48am

re: #44 darthstar

Republican Rebranding FAIL #3241.5:

That issue? Teh GHEY!

And Marco that is why your party will continue to lose big with Hispanics. But hey at least you got the angry dickhead vote. Maybe stop appealing to that and your party may actually have something resembling a coalition rather than the bag of angry dicks that is currently is.

Kragar Wed, May 1, 2013 10:52:26am

re: #45 GeneJockey

I’ve actually seen that posted in all seriousness, a number of times. They actually believe it.

People being given the same rights and treatment you’ve grown up with equals discrimination.
/

darthstar Wed, May 1, 2013 10:52:59am

re: #46 HappyWarrior

heh…you said ‘dick’ and ‘head’ in the same sentence…same word, even!

Political Atheist Wed, May 1, 2013 10:53:31am

Well the street lanes are closing and the helicopters orbiting the downtown LA May Day marches. Stores closed, FedEx cancelled all pickups and bus lines are all re routed around Broadway/Hill/Spring.

Kragar Wed, May 1, 2013 10:53:48am

National Review: Ted Cruz Mulling Presidential Bid

After making a hostile debut in the U.S. Senate, Ted Cruz (R-TX) has set his sights on a higher office, according to National Review’s Robert Costa.

Citing “friends and confidants,” National Review reported on Wednesday that Cruz is considering a run for president:

Cruz won’t talk about it publicly, and even privately he’s cagey about revealing too much of his thought process or intentions. But his interest is undeniable.

HappyWarrior Wed, May 1, 2013 10:53:56am

re: #45 GeneJockey

I’ve actually seen that posted in all seriousness, a number of times. They actually believe it.

Of course, they believe it but at the same time, they believe discrimination against women, gays, and racial minorities is pretty much a non issue but that the SWCCM-Straight White Christian Conservative Male can’t get a break in this society now that Obammer’s president.

wrenchwench Wed, May 1, 2013 10:55:12am

re: #45 GeneJockey

I’ve actually seen that posted in all seriousness, a number of times. They actually believe it.

It’s all part of being a martyr for the cause. Can’t be a martyr if you’re not being persecuted. Also gets them off the hook for actual damage they are doing to fellow humans.

erik_t Wed, May 1, 2013 10:55:48am

re: #50 Kragar

National Review: Ted Cruz Mulling Presidential Bid

Please, God, I don’t ask you for much.

Kragar Wed, May 1, 2013 10:56:34am

re: #53 erik_t

Please, God, I don’t ask you for much.

Cruz/Palin ‘16

Vicious Babushka Wed, May 1, 2013 10:57:16am

re: #50 Kragar

National Review: Ted Cruz Mulling Presidential Bid

Do you think the Birthers will freak out?

dragonath Wed, May 1, 2013 10:57:28am

Ted Cruz vs. Rand Paul! The one with the most crazed supporters wins!

GeneJockey Wed, May 1, 2013 10:57:50am

re: #47 Kragar

People being given ~~the same~~ rights ~~and treatment you’ve grown up with~~ equals discrimination.
/

FTFY

HappyWarrior Wed, May 1, 2013 10:57:57am

re: #50 Kragar

National Review: Ted Cruz Mulling Presidential Bid

So all those right wingers who complained Obama wasn’t experienced enough will be surely okay with Cruz having just as much experience in the SEnate as Obama did.*
*Not saying that Cruz is unqualified because of the amt time he’s spent in the SEnate but I do think he’s unqualified because he’s a bonafide wacko.

Bulworth Wed, May 1, 2013 10:58:33am

(Issa) favors a US mission (in Syria)
Issa went on to describe other reasons he believes Washington should get involved in the civil conflict

Hmmmm. Issa says US should have a “mission” in and get “involved” in Syria’s conflict.

What could go wrong?

Bulworth Wed, May 1, 2013 10:59:05am

re: #58 HappyWarrior

Get the popcorn ready

GeneJockey Wed, May 1, 2013 10:59:51am

re: #59 Bulworth

Hmmmm. Issa says US should have a “mission” in and get “involved” in Syria’s conflict.

What could go wrong?

“It could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months.”

Bulworth Wed, May 1, 2013 11:00:03am

re: #50 Kragar

Only Ted Cruz can save us from UN’s Common Core Standards Agenda 21.

dragonath Wed, May 1, 2013 11:00:32am

May I remind everybody that Nixon Supreme Court appointee Rehnquist first hired Cruz as one of his law clerks, so the crazy goes back pretty far.

HappyWarrior Wed, May 1, 2013 11:01:30am

re: #63 dragonath

May I remind everybody that Nixon Supreme Court appointee Rehnquist first hired Cruz as one of his law clerks, so the crazy goes back pretty far.

Ah Rehnquist, another great Republican judicial appointee. Up there with Clarence Thomas and Antonin Scalia.

Bulworth Wed, May 1, 2013 11:07:40am

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Ah, the Leading From Behind guy. Another brilliant wingnut meme. //

dragonath Wed, May 1, 2013 11:07:41am

re: #59 Bulworth

Hmmmm. Issa says US should have a “mission” in and get “involved” in Syria’s conflict.

What could go wrong?

So, what’s the deal with Reagan when he evacuated Lebanon?

Issa line of thinking is the same stupid irredentialism that got Russia and Europe involved in the middle east back in the 1800s.

Kragar Wed, May 1, 2013 11:07:51am

New Hampshire Lawmaker Warns Of Revolution Over Immigration Reform

As New Hampshire residents pressed Ayotte to respond to questions about her vote against enhanced background checks for gun purchasers, her hand-picked moderator instead called on Gionet. Ayotte had earlier recognized him among the honored guests present. Gionet praised Ayotte’s vote against background checks and then asked her about whether she shared his fear that fellow conservatives might need to overthrough the government.

GIONET: One of the things that concerns my constituents — the majority of my constituents –- is the appointments that are now being made in Washington by our President and the way he is handling the illegal immigrants, nationalizing them and giving them the opportunity to vote, and wanting to keep track of our guns. They are worried that they are going to have to use these guns because of our own government. Now is there anything in Washington that says — any telltale signs that maybe we might be headed for an internal revolution given the fact that these kinds of things are going on? This is what’s said in the groups that I sit in.

AYOTTE: Obviously, I hope not.

Bulworth Wed, May 1, 2013 11:09:39am

Now is there anything in Washington that says — any telltale signs that maybe we might be headed for an internal revolution given the fact that these kinds of things are going on? This is what’s said in the Really Freaky Non-Reality-Based groups that I sit in.

Fxd

Eclectic Cyborg Wed, May 1, 2013 11:10:06am

re: #45 GeneJockey

I’ve actually seen that posted in all seriousness, a number of times. They actually believe it.

Very true. They feel everyone else in America has special rights except them.

Eclectic Cyborg Wed, May 1, 2013 11:10:58am

I can honestly say, and it pains me greatly to say this, as an immigrant…I don’t know If I really feel welcome in this country anymore…

kirkspencer Wed, May 1, 2013 11:11:29am

re: #69 Eclectic Cyborg

Very true. They feel everyone else in America has special rights except them.

Nevermind they’re the majority of the House, of the Senate, of CEOs of Fortune 1000 companies …

Kragar Wed, May 1, 2013 11:12:01am

Smithsonian: New evidence shows Jamestown colonists ate 14-year-old girl’s brain

The first American colonists at Jamestown, Virginia resorted to cannibalism to survive harsh conditions between 1607 and 1625, according to a new find by scientists at the Smithsonian’s National Museum of Natural History.

The remains of a 14-year-old girl whose skull was split open after her death and later dumped in a trash pit with slaughtered animals were recovered in Jamestown during an excavation in 2012. Researchers were able to date the bones to the winter of 1609-1610, known to historians as the “starving time” when hundreds of colonists died.

“Our team has discovered partial human remains before, but the location of the discovery, visible damage to the skull and marks on the bones immediately made us realize this finding was unusual,” archaeologist Bill Kelso said in an advisory. “We approached the Smithsonian’s National Museum of Natural History for further research because of their proven understanding of the contextual history in this part of Virginia.”

Eclectic Cyborg Wed, May 1, 2013 11:13:02am

re: #71 kirkspencer

Nevermind they’re the majority of the House, of the Senate, of CEOs of Fortune 1000 companies …

Bingo. And that’s where the logic of the argument totally falls apart.

Vicious Babushka Wed, May 1, 2013 11:13:17am

re: #72 Kragar

Smithsonian: New evidence shows Jamestown colonists ate 14-year-old girl’s brain

Next on History Channel: Brain-eating Zombies in Jamestown Colony!

Eclectic Cyborg Wed, May 1, 2013 11:13:26am

re: #70 Eclectic Cyborg

I can honestly say, and it pains me greatly to say this, as an immigrant…I don’t know If I really feel welcome in this country anymore…

I feel compelled to add that I meant this more in the political sense than the personal.

Bulworth Wed, May 1, 2013 11:13:28am

Now is there anything in Washington that says — any telltale signs that maybe we might be headed for an internal revolution given the fact that these kinds of things are going on? This is what’s said in the groups that I sit in.

Hey we’re just asking questions here!!111!!1

lawhawk Wed, May 1, 2013 11:13:30am

Federal prosecutors just handed down the complaint against Dias Kadyrbayev and Azamat Tazhayakov. Charges stem from obstruction of justice and taking Tsarnaev’s backpack containing fireworks and laptop computer so as to impede the investigation.

Also named is Robel Phillipos - there’s probable cause that he too made false statements in the course of the investigation violating 18 USC 1001. It’s alleged that he hid from investigators that he and the other two went to Tsarnaev’s dorm room and instead claimed that he was at his apartment. There isn’t a separate charge sheet for him in this complaint, but expect to see that forthcoming.

Charles Johnson Wed, May 1, 2013 11:14:18am

This is kinda funny - LGF is right at the top, followed by the deluge of fail:

Image: ZZ2FB3CB53.jpg

Vicious Babushka Wed, May 1, 2013 11:15:12am

re: #78 Charles Johnson

This is kinda funny - LGF is right at the top, followed by the deluge of fail:

Image: ZZ2FB3CB53.jpg

BWAHAHAA!

erik_t Wed, May 1, 2013 11:15:17am

re: #78 Charles Johnson

This is kinda funny - LGF is right at the top, followed by the deluge of fail:

Image: ZZ2FB3CB53.jpg

IRRELEVANCE WOOOOOO

Targetpractice Wed, May 1, 2013 11:15:41am

re: #72 Kragar

Smithsonian: New evidence shows Jamestown colonists ate 14-year-old girl’s brain

Note to self: If ever food shortage here in VA, run the fuck away.

Bear Wed, May 1, 2013 11:19:34am

re: #81 Targetpractice

Just don’t go to Donner Lake.

Kragar Wed, May 1, 2013 11:19:46am

re: #81 Targetpractice

Note to self: If ever food shortage here in VA, run the fuck away.

Youtube Video

Charles Johnson Wed, May 1, 2013 11:20:41am

re: #72 Kragar

Smithsonian: New evidence shows Jamestown colonists ate 14-year-old girl’s brain

Frontier zombies.

Kragar Wed, May 1, 2013 11:26:25am

re: #84 Charles Johnson

Frontier zombies.

Less zombies, more creepy Robert Carlyle.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, May 1, 2013 11:28:12am

The tundra tart is tweeting again:

President Barack Obama had better clear this up today, right now. Surely he is just allowing his handlers to… fb.me/27q1yo6UE

— Sarah Palin (@SarahPalinUSA) May 1, 2013

But I’ll defer to Wonkette to explain the finer details:

wonkette.com

Targetpractice Wed, May 1, 2013 11:32:47am

re: #86 Backwoods_Sleuth

The tundra tart is tweeting again:

But I’ll defer to Wonkette to explain the finer details:

wonkette.com

Hey, Caribou Barbie, there’s this thing we got called the Bill of Rights. Guess what the first one says you can’t do? And no, it’s not “Hands off my guns!”

Killgore Trout Wed, May 1, 2013 11:32:52am

These idiots knew what they were doing…
FBI: 3 men removed Boston suspect’s backpack from his dorm room after bombing

The affidavit says Tazhayakov and Kadyrbayev agreed to get rid of it after concluding from news reports that Tsarnaev was one of the bombers.

chadu Wed, May 1, 2013 11:33:27am

Just posted a page that finally explains to me how RWNJs can hold mutually contradictory conspiracy theories in their head at the same time without burning out their logic circuits:

Moon Landing Faked!!!—Why People Believe in Conspiracy Theories: Scientific American

littlegreenfootballs.com

Kragar Wed, May 1, 2013 11:33:50am

re: #86 Backwoods_Sleuth

Image: jesusfacepalm.jpg

jaunte Wed, May 1, 2013 11:34:14am

Media Matters:

CNN national security analyst Peter Bergen described Miniter’s reporting on Bin Laden as “a pile of poppycock served up with heaps of hogwash.”

Fittingly enough, Miniter’s completely inaccurate account of the Bin Laden saga was first reported exclusively by David Martosko.

Olsonist Wed, May 1, 2013 11:36:42am

The Terrorista license plate guys, Azamat Tazhayakov and Dias Kadyrbayev, got re-arrested along with a third unnamed person.

talkingpointsmemo.com
littlegreenfootballs.com

Kragar Wed, May 1, 2013 11:36:54am

re: #86 Backwoods_Sleuth

Boykin: ‘Liberal-Marxist Agenda’ Set to ‘Destroy our Military’

The Family Research Council believes the military is preparing to court martial Christians based on an Air Force memo which reminds officers and supervisors to “avoid the actual or apparent use of their position to promote their personal religious beliefs to their subordinates or to extend preferential treatment for any religion.”

FRC vice president Jerry Boykin appeared yesterday on The Janet Mefferd Show to warn that the memo is part of a “liberal-Marxist agenda” that seeks to destroy the military in order to remove “traditional American values” and “take God out of society so that people become dependent upon government.”

Big Steve Wed, May 1, 2013 11:37:03am

re: #86 Backwoods_Sleuth

“tundra tart”

rather sexist don’t you think……are we now into slut shaming Mrs Palin?

Kragar Wed, May 1, 2013 11:40:28am

Air Force rules limit size of tattoos, role of gospel

Just days before retiring as Chief of Staff of the Air Force, Gen. Norton Schwartz issued a document designed to dictate the conduct of U.S. airmen worldwide — all violations enforceable by military law. For the first time, amid regulations on tattoo size and flag handling etiquette, it laid down the law on religious proselytizing by leaders: Don’t do it.

Section 2.11 of the 27-page Air Force Instruction AFI 1-1 Standards of Conduct is the latest salvo in a battle over religious bias and Christian proselytizing in the military branch. It calls on officers and supervisors to “avoid the actual or apparent use of their position to promote their personal religious beliefs to their subordinates or to extend preferential treatment for any religion.”

The document’s section on religion echoes a memo Schwartz sent out to all Air Force leadership on religion last September, but adds the threat of penalty for violations.

“COMPLIANCE WITH THIS PUBLICATION IS MANDATORY,” the memo says in bold, adding that “failure to adhere to the standards set out in this instruction can form the basis for adverse action under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ).”

Can you be prosecuted for being Christian? No
Can you be prosecuted for forcing it onto others or using it as justification for discrimination? Yup

Targetpractice Wed, May 1, 2013 11:42:14am

re: #93 Kragar

Related:

Boykin: ‘Liberal-Marxist Agenda’ Set to ‘Destroy our Military’

Thing is, such policy is neither new to the military or is it unique. As we’ve heard from the whines of the poor oppressed Christian minority, many private businesses also have rules against using company time to try to convert ones fellow workers or use positions of authority to promote ones religious beliefs.

Vicious Babushka Wed, May 1, 2013 11:43:20am

Bryan comes late to the party:

Criminal negligence: even SAUDI ARABIA warned us about Tamerlan: youtu.be/L5uSpNFPPTo via @youtube
— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) May 1, 2013

Kragar Wed, May 1, 2013 11:43:34am

re: #96 Targetpractice

Thing is, such policy is neither new to the military or is it unique. As we’ve heard from the whines of the poor oppressed Christian minority, many private businesses also have rules against using company time to try to convert ones fellow workers or use positions of authority to promote ones religious beliefs.

Apparently the Air Force finally codified the policy, and made its violation a court martial offense.

I fail to see a problem here.

aagcobb Wed, May 1, 2013 11:43:41am

re: #95 Kragar

From the stories I’ve heard about the Air Force Academy, these rules are sorely needed.

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Targetpractice Wed, May 1, 2013 11:45:42am

re: #98 Kragar

Apparently the Air Force finally codified the policy, and made its violation a court martial offense.

I fail to see a problem here.

Black Man In White House Syndrome.

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Vicious Babushka Wed, May 1, 2013 11:45:44am

#Saudi Arabia denies today’s Daily Mail story, Saudi government had no prior information about the Boston bombers.bit.ly/13M6gw2
— Saudi Embassy (@SaudiEmbassyUSA) May 1, 2013

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stabby Wed, May 1, 2013 11:46:45am

Good morning all (still morning in California for 15 more minutes).

I just put up a page:
Newt Gingritch talks to wingnut blogs, says Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is an enemy combatant:
Says you’re not a criminal if you: ‘attempt to kill a lot of Americans’ and are ‘influenced by an outside ideology’

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Kragar Wed, May 1, 2013 11:46:51am

re: #101 Vicious Babushka

Well, of course they’ll claim that…
/

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Vicious Babushka Wed, May 1, 2013 11:47:17am

re: #103 Kragar

Well, of course they’ll claim that…
/

TAQQIYA!!1!!11

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HoosierHoops Wed, May 1, 2013 11:48:43am

re: #33 HappyWarrior

They also had the number one running offense that year. That goes a long way. And there was one game where the Broncos kicker made a 58 yard field goal. Tebow isn’t horrible but he didn’t get the Broncos in the playoffs. The Broncos got the Broncos in the playoffs and Tebow was yes a part of that but he wasn’t the only reason. Should also add that the AFC West that year was really weak. I think the JEts should have used Tebow more effectively honestly but he wasn’t going to make them a playoff team and he honestly doesn’t make any team a playoff team at this point.

Tebow really hurt his stock by refusing to play Tight end and stubbornly only wants to be a NFL QB. His only hope is to be a backup on some team willing to take a chance on a poor passer. The Jets thought he could run the wildcat or change of pace offense. The NFL has clamped down on the Wildcat schemes. Defenses have adjusted and one rarely sees Wildcat plays now..
I watched some NFL film that showed Tebow making passes in practice in NY. You could hear coaches groan in the background. The Jets realized what they had acquired and this is why he didn’t replace Sanchez when he got hurt.. So he didn’t get screwed at all..You have to earn a start in practice before anybody gives you the reins to lead a team on Sunday.

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NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 1, 2013 11:50:43am

re: #101 Vicious Babushka

Falseflag!

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engineer cat Wed, May 1, 2013 11:51:00am

“take God out of society so that people become dependent upon government.”

i thought it was about taking dogs out into society so that government becomes dependent on cats

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Varek Raith Wed, May 1, 2013 11:51:13am

Breaking News;
RWNJ’s support Saudi Arabia over the USA.

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Kragar Wed, May 1, 2013 11:52:16am

re: #100 Targetpractice

Black Man In White House Syndrome.

And you damn well these fucktards would be the first to go apeshit if it ever came out servicemen were forced to sit and listen to a Muslim, Buddhist or other religious speaker urging conversion.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, May 1, 2013 11:52:24am

re: #94 Big Steve

rather sexist don’t you think……are we now into slut shaming Mrs Palin?

since she keeps throwing her sex appeal around (have you SEEN her latest humongous fake tatas???) it’s not slut shaming. I think she actually enjoys the attention.

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engineer cat Wed, May 1, 2013 11:53:00am

re: #98 Kragar

Apparently the Air Force finally codified the policy, and made its violation a court martial offense.

I fail to see a problem here.

so no more mandatory attendance at the human sacrifices before battle?

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Targetpractice Wed, May 1, 2013 11:53:40am

re: #111 engineer cat

so no more mandatory attendance at the human sacrifices before battle?

No blood for the blood god or skulls for the skull throne. I’m very disappointed.

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Bulworth Wed, May 1, 2013 11:54:39am

FRC vice president Jerry Boykin appeared yesterday on The Janet Mefferd Show to warn that the memo is part of a “liberal-Marxist agenda”

And gay secular Islamacistic agenda, too. Don’t forget that. /

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Kragar Wed, May 1, 2013 11:54:54am

re: #112 Targetpractice

No blood for the blood god or skulls for the skull throne. I’m very disappointed.

//

You can still take them, you just can’t demand your troops do the same.

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Vicious Babushka Wed, May 1, 2013 11:55:15am

Bryan doubles down on Teh Derp:

Obama was warned about Tamerlan by name in the Oval Office on Jan. 14, 2…: youtu.be/rysUjdtgBsc via @youtube
— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) May 1, 2013

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Targetpractice Wed, May 1, 2013 11:55:22am

re: #114 Kragar

You can still take them, you just can’t demand your troops do the same.

Bah, the military ain’t what it used to be!

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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, May 1, 2013 11:56:27am

re: #93 Kragar

They’re still all pissed about being caught about the bible verses engraved on military gunsights.

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Kragar Wed, May 1, 2013 11:57:52am

Soldier Becomes First Amputee to Graduate From Air Assault School

Sgt. 1st Class Greg Robinson endured 10 grueling days of navigating obstacle courses, strenuous runs and repelling out of helicopters in Army Air Assault school, and he did it all with a prosthetic leg.

“A disability is only a disability if you let it hold you down,” he told ABCNews.com.

On Monday, Robinson, 34, became the first amputee to graduate from Fort Campbell’s Sabalauski Air Assault School in Kentucky, where he said he “was treated like any other student.”

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Mike Lamb Wed, May 1, 2013 11:58:37am

Even assuming that Russia and the Saudis had warned us about the older Tsarnaev, what, pray tell, was the play there? Just round him up for…what again?

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engineer cat Wed, May 1, 2013 11:58:55am

Bryan Fischer @BryanJFischer

Obama was warned about Tamerlan

and thus obama did nothing while tamerlane brutally conquered vast areas of asia

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Vicious Babushka Wed, May 1, 2013 12:00:25pm

Obama SUCKS at Communism! latimes.com/business/money… #tgdn #UniteBlue #tcot #LibCrib
— Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) May 1, 2013

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erik_t Wed, May 1, 2013 12:00:26pm

re: #119 Mike Lamb

Even assuming that Russia and the Saudis had warned us about the older Tsarnaev, what, pray tell, was the play there? Just round him up for…what again?

For ~~being Muslim~~ ~~being American While Brownish~~ mumble mumble terrorist plot.

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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Wed, May 1, 2013 12:01:00pm

re: #105 HoosierHoops

Tebow really hurt his stock by refusing to play Tight end and stubbornly only wants to be a NFL QB. His only hope is to be a backup on some team willing to take a chance on a poor passer. The Jets thought he could run the wildcat or change of pace offense. The NFL has clamped down on the Wildcat schemes. Defenses have adjusted and one rarely sees Wildcat plays now..
I watched some NFL film that showed Tebow making passes in practice in NY. You could hear coaches groan in the background. The Jets realized what they had acquired and this is why he didn’t replace Sanchez when he got hurt.. So he didn’t get screwed at all..You have to earn a start in practice before anybody gives you the reins to lead a team on Sunday.

He’ll end up with the Toronto Argos, or the Hamilton Tiger Cats.

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erik_t Wed, May 1, 2013 12:01:41pm

re: #123 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

He’ll end up with the Toronto Argos, or the Hamilton Tiger Cats.

The CFL is a much more passing-oriented league than the NFL. I don’t know if he has a future there, either.

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leftynyc Wed, May 1, 2013 12:01:54pm

re: #12 Eclectic Cyborg

In fairness to Tebow, from a football perspective he really, REALLY got shafted by the Jets.

But it wasn’t because he is a Christian - it’s because he was a terrible quarterback who couldn’t roll right and throw worth a damn.

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simoom Wed, May 1, 2013 12:04:39pm

buzzfeed.com

Officials from the Department of Homeland Security, the National Security Council, and the Saudi government have all flatly denied the story.

“DHS has no knowledge of any communication from the Saudi government regarding information on the suspects in the Boston Marathon Bombing prior to the attack,” a DHS official told BuzzFeed.

The Saudi Embassy in Washington also denied in a statement that Tsarnaev had applied for a visa to make the pilgrimage to Mecca.

“The Saudi government had no prior information about the Boston bombers. Therefore, it is not true that any information, written or otherwise, was passed to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) or any other US agency in this regard. The Saudi government also does not have any record of any application by Tamerlan Tsarnaev for any visa to Saudi Arabia,” the embassy said in the emailed statement through its public relations agency.

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Kragar Wed, May 1, 2013 12:04:50pm

Wisconsin Church Cancels Former NFL Player’s Speech For Supporting Jason Collins

LeRoy Butler, former safety for the Green Bay Packers, was scheduled to give an anti-bullying presentation at a Wisconsin church this summer, but now the speech is off because he supported Jason Collins for coming out this week. Butler shared the following in a series of tweets today:

Wow, I was schedule to speak at a church in WI, and a member said that the pastor wants to cancel my event, I said ok why? Then I was told, because I said congrats to Jason Collins on twitter, I said really? we have a contract, he said check the moral cause. FYI the fee was 8500$,then I was told if i removed the tweet, and apologize and ask god forgiveness, I can have the event, I said no.

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Mike Lamb Wed, May 1, 2013 12:05:02pm

re: #125 leftynyc

But it wasn’t because he is a Christian - it’s because he was a terrible quarterback who couldn’t roll right and throw worth a damn.

Or roll left or stand in the pocket…

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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Wed, May 1, 2013 12:05:04pm

re: #124 erik_t

The CFL is a much more passing-oriented league than the NFL. I don’t know if he has a future there, either.

You mean he can’t throw?

QBs who can run with the ball as well as throw do the best up here.

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Charles Johnson Wed, May 1, 2013 12:05:31pm

#BREAKING: FBI releases photos of 3 people wanted for questioning in relation to attack on US Mission in Benghazi. twitter.com/AaronKatersky/…
— Aaron Katersky (@AaronKatersky) May 1, 2013

BENGHAZI!

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erik_t Wed, May 1, 2013 12:07:02pm

re: #129 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

You mean he can’t throw?

QBs who can run with the ball as well as throw do the best up here.

He can throw the ball about as well as I can.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, May 1, 2013 12:08:10pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

Looks like another John King exclusive…

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NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 1, 2013 12:09:02pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

BENGHAZI!

That’s some long hair on the guy on the right.

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Vicious Babushka Wed, May 1, 2013 12:09:25pm

re: #133 NJDhockeyfan

That’s some long hair on the guy on the right.

And he’s wearing a DRESS!//

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Wed, May 1, 2013 12:10:03pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

The Geico Caveman, Montell Williams, and one of the members of the Black Eyed Peas?

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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, May 1, 2013 12:10:41pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

BROWN PEOPLE!!!11!!!

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NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 1, 2013 12:11:01pm

RT @stevenportnoy: NEW: DOJ photo of the fireworks and gunpowder the FBI says the alleged bombers’ friends threw away twitter.com/stevenportnoy/…
— ABC News (@ABC) May 1, 2013

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Targetpractice Wed, May 1, 2013 12:11:58pm

re: #137 NJDhockeyfan

Well, that explains how they got gunpowder.

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Eclectic Cyborg Wed, May 1, 2013 12:12:09pm

In addition to the Tebow/Collins comparison posted earlier, here’s a slightly darker variation on the same theme, courtesy of my facebook feed.

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lawhawk Wed, May 1, 2013 12:12:52pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

The guy on the right is featured here.

The guy in the middle is featured here (and includes a different image as well).

Nothing further about guy on left though.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, May 1, 2013 12:12:58pm

re: #139 Eclectic Cyborg

that’s the best they got? good freakin grief…

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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Wed, May 1, 2013 12:13:58pm

re: #131 erik_t

He can throw the ball about as well as I can.

Then what the heck is he doing as a QB?

(No offence to your throwing arm)

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dragonath Wed, May 1, 2013 12:14:01pm

re: #33 HappyWarrior

They also had the number one running offense that year. That goes a long way. And there was one game where the Broncos kicker made a 58 yard field goal. Tebow isn’t horrible but he didn’t get the Broncos in the playoffs. The Broncos got the Broncos in the playoffs…

Why do you hate MIRRRAACCCLES

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Decatur Deb Wed, May 1, 2013 12:14:08pm

re: #137 NJDhockeyfan

Seeing that as good news. If the bad guys are reduced to that, their logistics are fucked.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, May 1, 2013 12:14:44pm

re: #140 lawhawk

The guy on the right is featured here.

Is that Jesus with a gun?
//

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Eclectic Cyborg Wed, May 1, 2013 12:15:59pm

Another RW outrage of the day is a supposed survey out that shows something like 60% of Americans do NOT support Obamacare. I saw it being promoted on Fox News this morning and see a few posts about it on my Facebook page as well.

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dragonath Wed, May 1, 2013 12:16:38pm

The Miracle at the New Meadowlands, aye, now there’s something you can believe in.

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erik_t Wed, May 1, 2013 12:18:39pm

re: #142 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Then what the heck is he doing as a QB?

(No offence to your throwing arm)

GOOD QUESTION.

Actual answer: he was enough of a scary bulldozer in the college game to force defenses to crowd the box, and he’s accurate enough to pick on a weak corner one-on-one. Against the larger and faster athletes of the NFL, where his legs are less of an up-the-middle threat (and with NFL offensive coordinators, who are borrrrrrrrrring as shit), he has to face a more populated secondary and he’s not accurate enough to deal with that.

Think Eric Crouch.

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GunstarGreen Wed, May 1, 2013 12:21:42pm

re: #127 Kragar

Wisconsin Church Cancels Former NFL Player’s Speech For Supporting Jason Collins

The American Taliban cannot be reasoned with.

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NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 1, 2013 12:22:34pm

Here is the FBI affidavit on these 3 douchebags.

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leftynyc Wed, May 1, 2013 12:23:30pm

re: #137 NJDhockeyfan

Does that mean they also have the laptop?

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NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 1, 2013 12:24:42pm

re: #151 leftynyc

Does that mean they also have the laptop?

I think so. It was put in the trash bag with the backpack.

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leftynyc Wed, May 1, 2013 12:25:17pm

re: #152 NJDhockeyfan

I think so. It was put in the trash bag with the backpack.

I hope so - that could lead to some interesting details.

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Vicious Babushka Wed, May 1, 2013 12:25:54pm

WERE VICTIMZ!!11 TEH SECOND HOLOCAUST IZ A COMIN!!11!! THEIR TAKIN AWAY ARE RIGHTS 2 TELL TEH GHEYS AN TEH MUZLIMS TAHT THEIR GOIN 2 HELL 4EVR!!11!!

The very troops who defend our religious freedom are at risk of having their own taken away. Sign the petitionfrc.org/alert/pentagon…
— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) May 1, 2013

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Kragar Wed, May 1, 2013 12:27:04pm

re: #154 Vicious Babushka

AKA the “screw non-christian troops” petition.

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erik_t Wed, May 1, 2013 12:27:38pm

re: #154 Vicious Babushka

@BryanJFischer The very troops who defend our religious freedom are at risk of having their own taken away. Sign the petition

Only if you write it in a snowbank and then promise to look away.

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NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 1, 2013 12:28:44pm

re: #156 erik_t

Only if you write it in a snowbank and then promise to look away.

In urine

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engineer cat Wed, May 1, 2013 12:29:24pm

“take God out of society so that people become dependent upon government.”

i think it’s very refreshing that fischer can express himself with such incoherence and meaninglessness

i think he should try speaking in tongues as the next step

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danarchy Wed, May 1, 2013 12:29:55pm

re: #124 erik_t

The CFL is a much more passing-oriented league than the NFL. I don’t know if he has a future there, either.

I bet he would make a pretty good Arena league QB…

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GunstarGreen Wed, May 1, 2013 12:30:31pm

re: #154 Vicious Babushka

I refuse to give twitland any business of any kind, but it’s times like these when I would dearly love to be able to ask this man if he’d be fine with Muslim or Buddhist commanders getting to force their conversions speeches on the troops as well as the Christian ones, and then follow up with WHY DO YOU HATE FREEDOM?!

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NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 1, 2013 12:30:53pm

re: #153 leftynyc

I hope so - that could lead to some interesting details.

I’m not seeing the part of the laptop in the trash in that affidavit.

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engineer cat Wed, May 1, 2013 12:31:23pm

re: #146 Eclectic Cyborg

Another RW outrage of the day is a supposed survey out that shows something like 60% of Americans do NOT support Obamacare

they only support the policies in obamacare, not obamacare

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GunstarGreen Wed, May 1, 2013 12:34:50pm

re: #162 engineer cat

they only support the policies in obamacare, not obamacare

The results would be quite interesting, I think, if you took out the phrase “Obamacare” or “Affordable Care Act” and instead replaced it with an actual description of the policies with no identifying mark of where they came from.

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simoom Wed, May 1, 2013 12:45:55pm

Does anyone else get the impression that now that this story is getting some scrutiny some higher-ups at the Mail forced a rewrite? It’s kind of interesting what’s changed between the initial version and the current. For example:

The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia sent a written warning about accused Boston Marathon bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security in 2012, long before pressure-cooker blasts killed three and injured hundreds, according to a senior Saudi government official with direct knowledge of the document.

The Saudi warning, the official told MailOnline, was separate from the multiple red flags raised by Russian intelligence in 2011, and was based on human intelligence developed independently in Yemen.

Citing security concerns, the Saudi government also denied an entry visa to the elder Tsarnaev brother in December 2011,when he hoped to make a pilgrimage to Mecca, the source said. Tsarnaev’s plans to visit Saudi Arabia have not been previously disclosed.

In the rewrite, the definitive, confident tone is replaced by “allegedly”s and the background attribution has subtly changed for no apparent reason:

According to a highly placed source who spoke to MailOnline, the Saudis sent a written warning about Tsarnaev to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security in 2012. That was long before pressure-cooker blasts killed three and injured hundreds.

The official told MailOnline about a written warning from the Saudi government to the Department of Homeland Security, and said he had direct knowledge of that document.

But the Middle Eastern nation’s embassy in Washington died that account on Wednesday.

It issued a statement which read: ‘The Saudi government had no prior information about the Boston bombers. Therefore, it is not true that any information, written or otherwise, was passed to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) or any other US agency in this regard,’ an embassy statement statement claimed.

‘The Saudi government also does not have any record of any application by Tamerlan Tsarnaev for any visa to Saudi Arabia.’

…

Citing security concerns, the Saudi government also allegedly denied an entry visa to the elder Tsarnaev brother in December 2011, when he hoped to make a pilgrimage to Mecca, the source said. Tsarnaev’s plans to visit Saudi Arabia have not been previously disclosed.

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Eventual Carrion Wed, May 1, 2013 12:59:14pm

re: #61 GeneJockey

“It could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months.”

And will be greeted with flowers and candy.

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Eventual Carrion Wed, May 1, 2013 1:50:54pm

re: #127 Kragar

Wisconsin Church Cancels Former NFL Player’s Speech For Supporting Jason Collins

… I said no.

Good for him.

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AlexRogan Wed, May 1, 2013 3:31:32pm

re: #127 Kragar

Wisconsin Church Cancels Former NFL Player’s Speech For Supporting Jason Collins

Get a load of this:

Butler believes the church’s decision constitutes bullying. In fact, when he tried to resolve the situation with the church’s pastor by saying, “We agree to disagree,” the anti-gay pastor countered, “No, I’m right and you’re wrong.”

Butler’s controversial tweet?

Congrats to Jason Collins

— leroy butler (@leap36) April 29, 2013

Wow, the irony is thick with this one.

BTW, “Pastor”, you’re a very un-Christlike dickhead.

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