1 PhillyPretzel  Sat, May 4, 2013 11:51:23am

That was cute.

2 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, May 4, 2013 11:51:51am

Never met the smaller critters, but I saw the big pink one shopping at Walmart.

3 klys  Sat, May 4, 2013 11:54:29am

I bet as a back massage, that felt kind of good.

4 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 4, 2013 11:56:01am

Another good one from the Dkos rec list today….
Both MSNBC & Daily Kos appear focused on anti-Republican tribalism. How do we effect change?

I hope this becomes a national trend. I think the partisan noise machines are burning out their audience.

5 Varek Raith  Sat, May 4, 2013 11:56:17am

Me likey bouncy!

6 jaunte  Sat, May 4, 2013 11:58:32am

re: #4 Killgore Trout

How do we change the culture of the bribery of politicians and endemic corruption? Real action to overturn Citizens United vs. FEC would be one example.

Any clues as to what that would be?

7 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:01:14pm

re: #6 jaunte

It’s obvious, but will be incredibly hard to do.

A Constitutional Amendment to strip Corporate Personhood.

The issue is getting it to pass.

8 A Mom Anon  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:01:36pm

I went to PetSmart this morning to get food for the critters and this lady was in there with a teeny, tiny little baby pig. Cutest thing ever. She said it wouldn’t get very big, it’s a miniature pig of some sort. It wags its little tail like a puppy when it’s happy, too much cuteness.

9 jaunte  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:03:06pm

17 bills to overturn Citizens United proposed by members of Congress;
none have made it to the floor.

united4thepeople.org

10 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:04:08pm

re: #6 jaunte

Any clues as to what that would be?

Me? No. I suppose that would require stacking the court or ammending the constitution. I also notice the first suggestion in the comments is “OWS!” (lol) I’m not a progressive so I’m not really that interested in seeing them advance their agenda but I applaud them for realizing that they’ve been on an unproductive path. I think the national conversation would improve greatly if more people gave up the tribalism and started thinking more about providing their own solutions.

11 Gus  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:04:53pm

That’s a huge pig.

12 A Mom Anon  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:05:21pm

re: #9 jaunte

The crazy asses and obstructionists have to be voted out first. Get some sane people in office who aren’t easily intimidated and then those bills might have a chance of seeing daylight.

13 Varek Raith  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:05:34pm

re: #10 Killgore Trout

Me? No. I suppose that would require stacking the court or ammending the constitution. I also notice the first suggestion in the comments is “OWS!” (lol) I’m not a progressive so I’m not really that interested in seeing them advance their agenda but I applaud them for realizing that they’ve been on an unproductive path. I think the national conversation would improve greatly if more people gave up the tribalism and started thinking more about providing their own solutions.

A lot have
See, the problem is a certain party blocks everything. Everything.
Kind of hard to get shit done with that, no?

14 allegro  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:06:11pm

re: #12 A Mom Anon

The crazy asses and obstructionists have to be voted out first. Get some sane people in office who aren’t easily intimidated and then those bills might have a chance of seeing daylight.

Shhh, yer being all tribal and shit. That’s a bad, bad thing doncha know.

///

15 PhillyPretzel  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:06:23pm

re: #11 Gus

Huge pigs are referred to as hogs.

16 Varek Raith  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:07:02pm

re: #15 PhillyPretzel

Huge pigs are referred to as hogs.

This one prefers ‘Bob’.

17 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:07:53pm

re: #13 Varek Raith

A lot have
See, the problem is a certain party blocks everything. Everything.
Kind of hard to get shit done with that, no?

If there was more public support for solutions and getting things done politicians would be less likely to obstruct.

18 Political Atheist  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:08:17pm

re: #2 Shiplord Kirel

Never met the smaller critters, but I saw the big pink one shopping at Walmart.

Did you walk in on an Undercover Boss episode at the time? ///

19 klys  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:09:26pm

re: #17 Killgore Trout

If there was more public support for solutions and getting things done politicians would be less likely to obstruct.

You mean like the 90% support for universal background checks?

20 Varek Raith  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:10:56pm

re: #19 klys

You mean like the 90% support for universal background checks?

Or ending the Bush tax cuts.
Or closing Gitmo.
Yep.

21 A Mom Anon  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:11:21pm

re: #17 Killgore Trout
You honestly think the people who are doing the most obstruction and fear mongering give a shit about what their constituents think at this point?

22 Varek Raith  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:11:36pm

See, the GOP doesn’t give a shit what the majority want. They only care about not getting primaried by a nutty TPer. All thanks to GOP gerrymandering.

23 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:12:48pm

re: #6 jaunte

Any clues as to what that would be?

BTW, I consider Citizen’s United to be a bit of a red herring. Between PAC’s, soft money, “Think tanks”, partisan activists and dedicated propaganda news networks the lines have become blurred beyond all recognition or legislative fix.

24 A Mom Anon  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:13:04pm

re: #14 allegro

I know, I’m so awful and unreasonable.

25 Varek Raith  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:13:15pm
26 klys  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:13:22pm

re: #20 Varek Raith

Or ending the Bush tax cuts.
Or closing Gitmo.
Yep.

I look forward to hearing about Republicans discussing their need to evaluate actually advocating solutions instead of having their strategy just be about winning against that black man in the white house.

27 A Mom Anon  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:19:17pm

re: #26 klys

Another case in point: all the idiotic nullification laws being proposed, and in some cases passed. Yeah, that’s just Democrats and lefties being tribal.

Some days I swear if I rolled my eyes at some of this bullshit they’d get stuck in the back of my head.

29 freetoken  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:23:51pm

re: #23 Killgore Trout

The idea of “one man one vote” sounds good on paper, but society has always had a pecking order (we are primates, after all) and, put simply, some people get their way more than others.

30 AlexRogan  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:26:31pm
31 Eclectic Cyborg  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:26:56pm
32 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:29:27pm

re: #11 Gus

That’s a huge pig.

Domestic pigs can be huge. That girl looks about 300lbs. Most pigs go to market at about 200lbs.

33 Eclectic Cyborg  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:29:56pm

re: #25 Varek Raith

Senators Who Voted To Kill Background Checks Dodge Meetings With Gun Victims
Case in point; not giving a shit.

The article cites SIX different senators either declining meetings or refusing to respond to the people inquiring about them.

34 Eclectic Cyborg  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:30:25pm

re: #32 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Domestic pigs can be huge. That girl looks about 300lbs. Most pigs go to market at about 200lbs.

So much for “this little piggy went to market…”

35 freetoken  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:30:26pm

re: #11 Gus

Should we ask you how your leg is coming along?

36 BigPapa  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:31:05pm

We don’t need no stinkin Big Tents.

37 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:32:38pm

re: #34 Eclectic Cyborg

So much for “this little piggy went to market…”

Yup.
They are incredibly strong too. I got tossed out of a pen by a boar one day while changing his straw. I must have pissed him off, because he just jammed his snout under my foot and lifted.

38 Lidane  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:33:09pm

re: #17 Killgore Trout

If there was more public support for solutions and getting things done politicians would be less likely to obstruct.

Bullshit.

As long as the GOP’s troglodyte base wants nothing to do with the ni-CLANG in the White House, it doesn’t matter what the public wants.

See: background checks for guns. Also see: closing corporate tax loopholes.

39 Lidane  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:33:58pm

re: #28 BigPapa

Conservative Says Hispanics Are Lazy Liberals So GOP Shouldn’t Reach Out To Them (AUDIO)

Looks like Reince is doing a stellar job with his rebranding efforts.

40 AlexRogan  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:37:23pm

re: #39 Lidane

Looks like Reince is doing a stellar job with his rebranding efforts.

“Helluva job Priebus…ie!”

41 jaunte  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:38:44pm

re: #28 BigPapa

Conservative Says Hispanics Are Lazy Liberals So GOP Shouldn’t Reach Out To Them (AUDIO)

Krikorian: “Hispanics as a whole are the biggest supporters of Obamacare, are big supporters of gun control, are opposed to reducing the size of government. Native-born Hispanic Americans, who make up most Hispanic voters, have a majority of the children that are born to them are illegitimate, very high rates of welfare use. So this is a description of an overwhelmingly Democratic voter group. Not all of them, obviously, because there’s a big group and there’s a lot of differences among them. But generally speaking, Hispanic voters are Democrats, and so the idea of importing more of them as a solution to the Republican Party’s problems is kind of silly.”

Is the tribal part the part where we listen, or the part where he says it in the first place?

42 AntonSirius  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:39:04pm

Little Benny Shapiro is taking that ‘standing on the shoulders of giants’ thing a bit too literally there with Limbaugh, isn’t he?

43 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:40:52pm

Yay!

The Doctor Who fandom is the first to be recognized with a word in the OED.

Whovian!

Now, we just need to convince a Big Three network to pick up Dr. Who.

44 freetoken  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:42:07pm

It’s been raining in Churchill Downs… and thus a sloppy field for today’s race. I don’t watch horse racing, but I do remember as a boy going to a few of the buggy races. I preferred the demolition derby, however.

45 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:42:23pm

re: #29 freetoken

The idea of “one man one vote” sounds good on paper, but society has always had a pecking order (we are primates, after all) and, put simply, some people get their way more than others.

Which is why I applaud the effort of the Dkos diary but they’re only beginning to to ask the right questions. The focus on something like Citizen’s is still a vestige of the noise machine. Removing the money from politics is probably not practical and I think they’d be disappointed that the end result would probably not be a progressive utopia. However, they’d be much more likely to succeed in their goal by thinking about solutions rather than just pointing fingers at Republicans. For example, they’d be much more likely to succeed in pressuring Obama for appointing donors and blunderers than stopping the next Republican president for doing the same thing.

46 engineer cat  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:42:36pm

so basically we are sticking w the pig theme for almost all the comments in this thread so far

47 RadicalModerate  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:44:03pm

re: #43 ProBosniaLiberal

Yay!

The Doctor Who fandom is the first to be recognized with a word in the OED.

Whovian!

Now, we just need to convince a Big Three network to pick up Dr. Who.

I think that “trekkie” predates it by more than a decade.

48 freetoken  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:44:14pm

Speaking of “tribal” warfare:

1,000 attend anti-Semitic rally in Budapest

A far-right political party in Hungary said 1,000 people attended an anti-Semitic rally in Budapest, where the World Jewish Congress is meeting.

Jewish groups have noted a steady uptick in anti-Semitism in the country, with some polls suggesting more than 60 percent of Hungarians hold disapproving opinions of Jewish people.

[…]

49 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:44:34pm

re: #43 ProBosniaLiberal

Yay!

The Doctor Who fandom is the first to be recognized with a word in the OED.

Whovian!

Now, we just need to convince a Big Three network to pick up Dr. Who.

I finally caught a few episodes. I hadn’t seen the show since the old late 70’s version. They did a great job updating it while still keeping the campy humor and “soft sci fi” (like the original star trek) vibe to it. Very well done.

50 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:44:34pm

re: #41 jaunte

Is the tribal part the part where we listen, or the part where he says it in the first place?

He’s also calling Hispanics sluts and bastards. That should go a long way in 2014.

51 Varek Raith  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:44:59pm

re: #46 engineer cat

so basically we are sticking w the pig theme for almost all the comments in this thread so far

Oink!

52 engineer cat  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:45:10pm

i think progressives might be able to make progress if we pooled our resources & started to buy up republican congressmen

53 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:45:16pm

re: #46 engineer cat

so basically we are sticking w the pig theme for almost all the comments in this thread so far

Oink, oink.

54 freetoken  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:46:10pm

re: #45 Killgore Trout

At this point I’m sort of accepting that my society isn’t going to change for the better very quickly, that change takes time and is driven as much or more so by inventions and discoveries than by intentionally trying to manage society.

55 thedopefishlives  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:46:47pm

Afternoon Lizardim from the cold and breezy wild north country. How go things among the Lizardfolk this afternoon?

56 Varek Raith  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:47:34pm

re: #55 thedopefishlives

Afternoon Lizardim from the cold and breezy wild north country. How go things among the Lizardfolk this afternoon?

Jumping on pigs.
You?

57 stabby  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:48:14pm

re: #52 engineer cat

i think progressives might be able to make progress if we pooled our resources & started to buy up republican congressmen

So wrong, you have to be able to use money and hate preachers to do hostile takeovers of Republican primaries just like the big guys do (Koch, Norquest, religious nuts) otherwise they won’t vote your way.

58 thedopefishlives  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:48:19pm

re: #56 Varek Raith

Jumping on pigs.
You?

Me, I hurt. Just went through a taekwondo exam. But the fishfolk are all good, resting this afternoon now that both the fishspawn are asleep.

59 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:48:36pm

re: #54 freetoken

At this point I’m sort of accepting that my society isn’t going to change for the better very quickly, that change takes time and is driven as much or more so by inventions and discoveries than by intentionally trying to manage society.

I’ve come to the same conclusion and changed my focus inwards towards what I believe and things I should do. I’m still very interested in the way the world works and the religious/political machines and how they work but I’m fairly passive in my observations.

60 Political Atheist  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:48:55pm

re: #58 thedopefishlives

How did the exam go? Belt test?

61 A Mom Anon  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:49:33pm

re: #52 engineer cat

I’d just like to have a Democrat to vote for. My House member(s- there have been two since I moved here) has run unopposed for the last 15 yrs. I literally have never had anyone to vote for here.

62 BigPapa  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:49:44pm

re: #40 AlexRogan

“Helluva job Priebus…ie!”

Reince, lather slobber, repeat

63 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:49:47pm

re: #58 thedopefishlives

Me, I hurt. Just went through a taekwondo exam. But the fishfolk are all good, resting this afternoon now that both the fishspawn are asleep.

Did you up your belt?

64 engineer cat  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:49:48pm

re: #45 Killgore Trout

in my view the republican party exists exclusively for the purpose of lowering taxes on wealthy people and corporations and removing consumer and workplace protection

this may be simplistic but as a rule of thumb it works very well

65 thedopefishlives  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:49:49pm

re: #60 Political Atheist

How did the exam go? Belt test?

Brown belt, and I passed. It was a very strenuous exam.

66 stabby  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:49:53pm

re: #59 Killgore Trout

Heh, heh, society IS changing for the better, that’s why the right wingers are livid and trying to scuttle the boat.

67 Political Atheist  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:50:18pm

re: #52 engineer cat

If someone, anyone would step up and replace NRA campaign dollars it would be a huge step in the right direction. You can replace a congressman, but not his or her need to compete to keep the seat.

68 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:50:23pm

re: #65 thedopefishlives

Brown belt, and I passed. It was a very strenuous exam.

Congrats. Tests get pretty damn tough that high.

69 austin_blue  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:50:37pm

re: #55 thedopefishlives

Afternoon Lizardim from the cold and breezy wild north country. How go things among the Lizardfolk this afternoon?

Another achingly beautiful day in the ‘04!

Hope that didn’t come off as too tribal…

;-)

70 freetoken  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:50:48pm

This is what we are dealing with:

NRA’s LaPierre says gun rights struggle a ‘long war’

Wayne LaPierre, the nation’s most visible gun rights advocate, rallied supporters on Saturday for a renewed fight against gun-control, saying membership is up since the Newtown massacre and calling the effort to stop new limits a “long war” and a “fight for everything we care about.”

Remarks by the National Rifle Association’s executive vice president at the group’s annual convention in Houston were heavy with militaristic and sweeping patriotic rhetoric and were characteristically hard on President Barack Obama, who has pushed for new firearms restrictions following the Connecticut school massacre in December.

The worldview to which LaPierre clings is out of time, defunct, and stays around because people are easily scared.

LaPierre and his followers want an 18th century society in the 21st.

It won’t fit, and that becomes more evident every year.

But they cling to it, oh yes, they cling.

71 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:51:13pm

Stoned furby.
Dude!

72 thedopefishlives  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:51:22pm

re: #68 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Congrats. Tests get pretty damn tough that high.

Yes, they do, but it’s so worth it when it’s all over. I’m fiercely competitive and it satisfies my inner demon when I survive an exam like that.

73 engineer cat  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:52:05pm

re: #57 stabby

meant it more as a cynical crack

74 stabby  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:52:14pm

re: #71 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

ooo that looks like a furby cake!

75 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:52:15pm

re: #70 freetoken

This is what we are dealing with:

NRA’s LaPierre says gun rights struggle a ‘long war’

The worldview to which LaPierre clings is out of time, defunct, and stays around because people are easily scared.

LaPierre and his followers want an 18th century society in the 21st.

It won’t fit, and that becomes more evident every year.

But they cling to it, oh yes, they cling.

Fear is a damned good motivator, and it swings people to the conservative side.

76 Eclectic Cyborg  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:52:37pm

re: #74 stabby

ooo that looks like a furby cake!

I believe it is.

77 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:53:17pm

re: #72 thedopefishlives

Yes, they do, but it’s so worth it when it’s all over. I’m fiercely competitive and it satisfies my inner demon when I survive an exam like that.

I wish I could return to Hapkido and go for my blue.
Body says no.

78 Bubblehead II  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:55:03pm

re: #75 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Fear is a damned good motivator, and it swings people to the conservative dark side.

Someone had to do it. It’s is after all Star Wars Day.

May the 4th be with you.

79 freetoken  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:55:16pm

Meanwhile, down in Texas:

House OKs guns on campus, school marshals bills

The Texas House has approved contentious plans to let college students carry concealed weapons to class and create special marshals for public schools statewide.

Both measures were part of what has been unofficially dubbed “gun day” at the Texas House on Saturday.

[…]

80 thedopefishlives  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:55:32pm

re: #77 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

I wish I could return to Hapkido and go for my blue.
Body says no.

The Mrs. Fish is a first-degree black belt. She hasn’t been able to train much since we started having kids, but she was the one who dragged me into it back when we first met. She managed to arrange things so that I could go back and finish through my first degree. I haven’t decided if I’m going to keep training after that yet.

81 freetoken  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:56:25pm

Texas atavists want it to be 1836 again.

82 allegro  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:56:51pm

re: #77 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

I wish I could return to Hapkido and go for my blue.
Body says no.

I wish I could return to the days before leaf blowers. Damn I hate those things. There are TWO of them going outside my windows. My head is about to crack open from the decibels.

83 austin_blue  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:57:06pm

re: #71 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Stoned furby.
Dude!

The English produce curious artisans:

“Hand made!”

84 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:57:36pm

Oh shit, I hope they rescue this guy.

85 Political Atheist  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:57:41pm

re: #65 thedopefishlives

Congratulations. It does get hard at that level. The kicks are big fast and ridiculously powerful.

86 thedopefishlives  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:57:57pm

re: #82 allegro

I wish I could return to the days before leaf blowers. Damn I hate those things. There are TWO of them going outside my windows. My head is about to crack open from the decibels.

My neighborhood, collectively, is paranoid about keeping their lawns perfectly groomed. Not two days after the last snowstorm, I heard people out mowing. Not just tuning up their lawn mowers, oh no - they were actually out MOWING THE GRASS THAT HADN’T STARTED GROWING YET.

87 allegro  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:58:10pm

re: #79 freetoken

Meanwhile, down in Texas:

House OKs guns on campus, school marshals bills

Can I tell you how grateful I am now to be a RETIRED professor? Good lord, it’s going to be open fucking season.

88 sagehen  Sat, May 4, 2013 12:58:44pm

re: #43 ProBosniaLiberal

Yay!

The Doctor Who fandom is the first to be recognized with a word in the OED.

Whovian!

Now, we just need to convince a Big Three network to pick up Dr. Who.

I’m surprised… I’d have thought Trekkie or Trekker would have made the cut decades ago.

89 PhillyPretzel  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:00:05pm

re: #86 thedopefishlives

My postage stamp in the front and the strip in the back have been cut a couple of times.

90 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:00:13pm

re: #88 sagehen

We are either 1st or second.

91 sagehen  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:00:24pm

BTW, Blazing Saddles is just about to start on AMC.

92 Charles Johnson  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:01:56pm

re: #91 sagehen

I started watching that yesterday - but they’ve cut out so much of the dialog, it’s really annoying. I have the unedited version on DVD. It’s MUCH better.

93 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:02:02pm

Looks there are a few police officers up there with him.

94 AntonSirius  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:02:41pm

re: #91 sagehen

BTW, Blazing Saddles is just about to start on AMC.

The TV edit of the campfire scene should be seen by everyone at least once to truly understand the phrase ‘the banality of evil’.

95 austin_blue  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:03:33pm

re: #87 allegro

Can I tell you how grateful I am now to be a RETIRED professor? Good lord, it’s going to be open fucking season.

No shit. Drunken frat boys are little bags of testosterone as it is. But with guns?

Headline News!:

“Pi Phi shot to death after turning down Deke’s request for date”

96 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:04:39pm

re: #94 AntonSirius

The TV edit of the campfire scene should be seen by everyone at least once to truly understand the phrase ‘the banality of evil’.

And avoid beans.

97 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:04:43pm

re: #86 thedopefishlives

My neighborhood, collectively, is paranoid about keeping their lawns perfectly groomed. Not two days after the last snowstorm, I heard people out mowing. Not just tuning up their lawn mowers, oh no - they were actually out MOWING THE GRASS THAT HADN’T STARTED GROWING YET.

Lawns are a desert wasteland for wildlife. They are a bourgeois relic of middle class imitating the the great lawns of European aristocratic estates. The generate nothing but noise. A garden is another story.

98 AntonSirius  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:04:57pm

re: #92 Charles Johnson

I started watching that yesterday - but they’ve cut out so much of the dialog, it’s really annoying. I have the unedited version on DVD. It’s MUCH better.

Bad as the Blazing Saddles edit is though, the best/worst of all time is still Big Lebowski. “This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps!”

99 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:05:28pm

re: #89 PhillyPretzel

My postage stamp in the front and the strip in the back have been cut a couple of times.

I thought you were talking about a Brazilian wax.

Oops.

100 thedopefishlives  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:06:10pm

re: #99 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

I thought you were talking about a Brazilian wax.

Oops.

Oh good, I’m glad I’m not the only one who had that thought.

101 AntonSirius  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:06:47pm

re: #96 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

And avoid beans.

That’s just it… the TV edit removes all the fart sounds. It’s just a full minute of cowboys sitting around a campfire quietly eating dinner.

102 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:06:56pm
103 PhillyPretzel  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:07:05pm

re: #99 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

lol. I live in a city row house. There is no such thing as a “lawn.” It is a patch of grass in the front and a strip in the back.

104 thedopefishlives  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:07:38pm

re: #103 PhillyPretzel

lol. I live in a city row house. There is no such thing as a “lawn.” It is a patch of grass in the front and a strip in the back.

That’s what SHE said.///

105 freetoken  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:08:03pm

Atavism is not usually topically selective, as in the case of Chester Crandell - a name you might not recognize but he is the one who successfully passed that bill in AZ to get gold and silver as legal tender in that state:

Governor Vetoes Crandell’S Gold Bill

Gov. Jan Brewer Thursday vetoed a bill introduced by Sen. Chester Crandell (R-Heber) that would have made gold and silver coins and bullion legal tender in Arizona.

Crandell, whose district includes all of Rim Country, introduced Senate Bill 1439 and got it all the way through the House and Senate because he said the U.S. Constitution favors gold and silver as legal tender and gives the states the authority to produce their own money.

[…]

This year Crandell also sponsored Senate Concurrent Resolution (SCR) 1016, which prohibits state workers from enforcing any federal action that the people have deemed unconstitutional — presumably without waiting for a federal court to interpret the Constitution itself. That bill never made it to the governor.

[…]

GOLD!!

NULLIFICATION!!

The two seem to go together. Next thing you know he’ll want Bibles in schools. … oh… wait….

He also sponsored a measure to require science teachers to teach all sides of any controversial issues in science class, which many interpreted as an effort to make sure that science teachers teach not only the scientific theory of evolution but the Bible-based belief in creationism.

Crandell is like LaPierre - these people just don’t like the 21st century.

106 Charles Johnson  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:08:04pm

re: #98 AntonSirius

At least they didn’t dub over with stupid phrases in Blazing Saddles - they just cut out most of the movie’s best jokes.

If you saw the edited version for the first time you’d wonder WTF was supposed to be so funny about it.

107 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:08:12pm

re: #103 PhillyPretzel

lol. I live in a city row house. There is no such thing as a “lawn.” It is a patch of grass in the front and a strip in the back.

After reading the comment you were responding to I figured that out.

108 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:08:15pm

re: #97 Killgore Trout

I despise them as well, but for different reason.

Personally, I am in favor of housing which causes population density to go up.

109 austin_blue  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:08:31pm

re: #92 Charles Johnson

I started watching that yesterday - but they’ve cut out so much of the dialog, it’s really annoying. I have the unedited version on DVD. It’s MUCH better.

I love it when the guy introduces Lili von Shtupp. They’ve bleeped the word Shtupp, *but it is written on the sign immediately behind him*!

Inane, senseless, and as stupid as a box of hammers.

110 freetoken  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:09:09pm

Why is it they’re always creationists?

111 Charles Johnson  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:09:47pm

re: #101 AntonSirius

That’s just it… the TV edit removes all the fart sounds. It’s just a full minute of cowboys sitting around a campfire quietly eating dinner.

Thats what I meant - the funniest damn scene ever filmed, with all humor removed.

112 PhillyPretzel  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:10:12pm

flickr.com Here is what the lawn looks like.

113 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:10:13pm

re: #110 freetoken

Why is it they’re always creationists?

They have been working toward dominating RW politics for years.

114 thedopefishlives  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:10:43pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

Thats what I meant - the funniest damn scene ever filmed, with all humor removed.

Good thing I didn’t suggest to the Mrs. Fish that she watch it. I think the movie is funny as all hell, but she’s never seen it and exposing her to that travesty would not do it any justice.

115 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:11:03pm

re: #112 PhillyPretzel

flickr.com Here is what the lawn looks like.

Those two statues on the lawn look out of place.

116 bratwurst  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:11:59pm

re: #112 PhillyPretzel

flickr.com Here is what the lawn looks like.

What’s up with parking on both sides of a one way street?!?

117 PhillyPretzel  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:12:03pm

re: #115 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Those are “neighbors” who think my grass is their playground.

118 sagehen  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:12:32pm

re: #67 Political Atheist

If someone, anyone would step up and replace NRA campaign dollars it would be a huge step in the right direction. You can replace a congressman, but not his or her need to compete to keep the seat.

That’s what Bloomberg is doing with his PAC

119 PhillyPretzel  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:13:19pm

re: #116 bratwurst

It is a city row home. It is a hard to find a good parking spot.

120 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:13:31pm
121 austin_blue  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:16:01pm

re: #120 NJDhockeyfan

Yow. That’s a long way down. That cop sitting next to him has some balls on him.

122 thedopefishlives  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:17:18pm

Police officers never cease to amaze me. I know there are a lot of bad apples in that bunch, but there are so many good people who work hard to serve and protect and I love them for it. God bless ‘em.

123 Charles Johnson  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:17:20pm

re: #121 austin_blue

Yow. That’s a long way down. That cop sitting next to him has some balls on him.

Looks like the cop has a tether.

124 engineer cat  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:17:47pm

Wayne LaPierre, the nation’s most visible gun rights advocate, rallied supporters on Saturday for a renewed fight against gun-control, saying membership is up since the Newtown massacre and calling the effort to stop new limits a “long war” and a “fight for everything we care about.”

the nra and the gop are still better at using the modern sales technique of selling the lifestyle, not just the product

the democratic party does this well usually only at the national conventions, which i think is a big reason it tends to win the presidential elections and then lose the midterms. most of the time democrats and progressives get hung up in the details of the virtues of individual policies, as if people bought cars based on mileage and efficiency instead of coolness and glamour

the gop knows that it doesn’t really matter so much to their low info voters what most of the policies are that they want them to go along with, so they sell them as policies that All Raht Thinkin Amuricans Nachurally Support Because Y’All Are The Real Amuricans And Not A Buncha Lazy Welfare Queens And Snotty Elitists

125 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:18:11pm

re: #121 austin_blue

Yow. That’s a long way down. That cop sitting next to him has some balls on him.

Amazing seeing them in action like that. They regularly train for this.

126 Political Atheist  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:18:27pm

re: #71 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Stoned furby.
Dude!

Ever seen a G-Pen being used? I saw a couple at the theater using one, almost no one the wiser. E-cig style smoking of pot. Huh.

127 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:19:31pm

Wow.

128 monkeyfister  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:20:42pm

Is this the trailer to the prequel of George Orwell’s “Animal Farm?”

Is this what really set the pigs off?

129 allegro  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:21:14pm

re: #109 austin_blue

I love it when the guy introduces Lili von Shtupp. They’ve bleeped the word Shtupp, *but it is written on the sign immediately behind him*!

Inane, senseless, and as stupid as a box of hammers.

The Teutonic Titwillow.

130 monkeyfister  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:23:28pm

WOW.

Wouldn’t have known about the Brooklyn Bridge situation had I not been here. Good commenters!

131 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:26:53pm

Keeping fingers crossed…

132 jaunte  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:27:04pm

Brooklyn Bridge At Standstill Due To Possible Jumper

Reports at the scene indicate there is a lot of chaos on the bridge, with many people gathering to watch the standoff and some cars attempting to back up off the bridge: “Cop walking among the trapped cars screaming “MAKE YOUR OWN JUDGEMENT” re: backing up off the Brooklyn Bridge. This is gonna go well,” tweeted Jordana Rothman.
gothamist.com

133 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:30:13pm

Good news, it’s over.

134 A Mom Anon  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:30:19pm

re: #131 NJDhockeyfan

So what happens to the guy once they get him to come down? He’s obviously hurting, they wouldn’t arrest him or anything like that would they?(edited to add).. Glad he’s ok and didn’t jump.

135 austin_blue  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:31:46pm

re: #134 A Mom Anon

So what happens to the guy once they get him to come down? He’s obviously hurting, they wouldn’t arrest him or anything like that would they?

Trip to Riker’s for a check-up from the neck up.

136 steve_davis  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:32:53pm

re: #68 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Congrats. Tests get pretty damn tough that high.

Yep. No more Tiger 1 Form. By brown belt it’s trying to turn yourself into a piece of impenetrable leather while fellow students take turns seeing if they can kick you in the balls, which are technically unrackable if you are using proper technique. At least, that was how Goju Ryu did it.

137 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:32:57pm

My brain is an asshole.

My first thought was to tell him that as the one thousandth jumper, he’s won a million dollars.

138 thedopefishlives  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:33:05pm

re: #134 A Mom Anon

So what happens to the guy once they get him to come down? He’s obviously hurting, they wouldn’t arrest him or anything like that would they?

Probably just check him over, then encourage him to get counseling.

139 Lidane  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:33:06pm

re: #134 A Mom Anon

So what happens to the guy once they get him to come down? He’s obviously hurting, they wouldn’t arrest him or anything like that would they?(edited to add).. Glad he’s ok and didn’t jump.

I’d imagine he goes in for a psych eval.

140 jaunte  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:36:29pm

New York State Office of Mental Health
Suicide Prevention Education and Awareness Kit:

- Approximately 1,300 New Yorkers take their own lives each year, and it is estimated that for every suicide death, there are anywhere from 8-25 suicide attempts. ( NYS Dept. of Health)
- Approximately 150,000 New York teenagers attempt suicide each year, and 70 will die as a result. (Center for Disease Control)
- Suicide is now the third leading cause of death among young New Yorkers ages 15-24. (National Center for Health Statistics)

omh.ny.gov

141 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:38:42pm

Nice.

142 engineer cat  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:40:43pm

Frank says:
Anything played wrong twice in a row is the beginning of an arrangement.

now let me figure out how i am gonna make it sound like i meant to play that clam

143 wrenchwench  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:47:55pm

Arrrgh.

A friend/customer just told me about some hot info emailed to her by a (very) different friend. Apparently the Obamacare bill has the word ‘dhimmitude’ in it on page whatever and all health care for Muslims will be subsidized by Christians.

I told her it was all made up bullshit.

144 freetoken  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:50:58pm

For those who want some reading this fine day, James Tabor, the guy who is pushing the Talpiot tomb discovery as relating to “Jesus”, put up a PDF of his arguments from a recent conference:

bibleinterp.com

Two dissenting opinions put online this week:

bibleinterp.com

bibleinterp.com


One of the big problems I have with Tabor is that he continues to associate himself with Jacobovici, who is a producer of sensationalist material and has stated his agenda that as a Jew he’s trying to minimize or disprove “Jesus”.

145 jaunte  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:52:14pm

re: #143 wrenchwench

The Factcheck site has some more detail, if you want:

factcheck.org

146 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:52:58pm
147 sagehen  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:54:10pm

re: #135 austin_blue

Trip to Riker’s Bellevue for a check-up from the neck up.

A 3-day involuntary commitment and assessment… depending on results, either a hearing asking for longer commitment, or a hearing on charges of creating a public nuisance/disturbing the peace.

148 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:56:48pm

Heh.

149 wrenchwench  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:58:57pm

re: #145 jaunte

The Factcheck site has some more detail, if you want:

factcheck.org

Oh, thank you!

I happen to have her email address. She’s gonna get dueling emails now.

By the way, the new spell checker does not like your nic. Would you like to be Jaunt, Jaunty, Jauntier, or Janet?

150 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 4, 2013 1:59:57pm
151 stabby  Sat, May 4, 2013 2:02:13pm

re: #143 wrenchwench

Oh God. That and a similar story in a previous thread reminds me that one of my common thoughts these days:
Republicans’ all paranoid lies all the time stuff is very effective at capturing idiots.

I once argued with a kid whose parents had shipped him away from Lebanon because they could see that he’d been captured by Hezbollah propaganda… I also argued with an actual member of Hezbollah, a western idiot who’d been drawn in. You CAN’T IMAGINE Hezbollah’s derp - it makes the very worst American wingnuts look like the very models of sanity, intelligence, tolerance, knowledge, education and insight.

But still I feel like the wingnuts are slouching in that direction. How long would it take us to deteriorate that far?

152 wrenchwench  Sat, May 4, 2013 2:07:24pm

re: #137 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Dude, what are you doing up there?

153 thedopefishlives  Sat, May 4, 2013 2:09:22pm

re: #152 wrenchwench

Dude, what are you doing up there?

Wow. The sky is falling, indeed.

154 austin_blue  Sat, May 4, 2013 2:09:53pm

re: #152 wrenchwench

Dude, what are you doing up there?

Did this just turn into a boob thread?

155 sattv4u2  Sat, May 4, 2013 2:17:07pm

So

Sitting here at work about an hour ago and i hear a “SPLAT”

Look up and a ceiling tile crumbled and fell.

Upon further inspection (cause I’m a curious type-a-guy) the SPLATTED tile is kinda ,,,, SOAKED

Up the ladder i go to discover a leak in the roof,,,, RIGHT above our video wall (pictured below,,,,, right)
Image: atlantateleport.jpg

CLEAN UP IN AISLE 16 !!!!

156 Randall Gross  Sat, May 4, 2013 2:17:24pm

I’m pleased that the jumper is safe… however - When I see scenes like that I think of all the photographers who would just love to be able to take pictures from that location, but no… jumpers and attempted jumpers make is next to impossible to get to high places in many spots. I could probably hang out up there with my lens all day and all night and still not want to come down.

157 Randall Gross  Sat, May 4, 2013 2:21:35pm

Something weird going on with reply and quote buttons in chrome, wonder if Charles is doing something?

158 thedopefishlives  Sat, May 4, 2013 2:22:11pm

re: #157 Randall Gross

Something weird going on with reply and quote buttons in chrome, wonder if Charles is doing something?

Try reloading the page?

159 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 4, 2013 2:32:24pm

I can’t upding anything. When I try, it just kicks me back to the front page.

160 Gus  Sat, May 4, 2013 2:33:20pm

The page went belly up! Just a temporary glitch no doubt.

161 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, May 4, 2013 2:44:12pm

re: #152 wrenchwench

Dude, what are you doing up there?

Being boobs.

162 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, May 4, 2013 2:48:39pm

When my grandpa’s research on his ancestry gets here, I will post the big stuff. There is apparently a map included.

I expect the map to look kind of like the nations involved in the 30 Years War.

163 thedopefishlives  Sat, May 4, 2013 2:49:58pm

re: #162 ProBosniaLiberal

When my grandpa’s research on his ancestry gets here, I will post the big stuff. There is apparently a map included.

I expect the map to look kind of like the nations involved in the 30 Years War.

Good for you. Sometimes I wish my father’s side of the family had cared more about their ancestry. My mother’s side kept meticulous records.

164 engineer cat  Sat, May 4, 2013 2:52:40pm

Prof sorry for Keynes gay remark

Harvard history professor had said the economist was less invested in the future because he was gay and had no children.

another case of selling the lifestyle rather than the policy

165 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 4, 2013 2:53:07pm

re: #163 thedopefishlives

Good for you. Sometimes I wish my father’s side of the family had cared more about their ancestry. My mother’s side kept meticulous records.

Opposite way for me. My cousin has traced my father’s father’s family back to the mid-19th century. He’s traced our maternal grandmother’s family back to before the Revolutionary War.

166 thedopefishlives  Sat, May 4, 2013 2:55:45pm

re: #165 Dark_Falcon

Opposite way for me. My cousin has traced my father’s father’s family back to the mid-19th century. He’s traced our maternal grandmother’s family back to before the Revolutionary War.

As far as I can tell, my father’s father’s family only goes back 2 or 3 generations. Even my father’s mother’s family has more information than that. My mother’s side of the family has records all the way back to their Scottish heritage.

167 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 4, 2013 3:02:12pm

re: #162 ProBosniaLiberal

When my grandpa’s research on his ancestry gets here, I will post the big stuff. There is apparently a map included.

I expect the map to look kind of like the nations involved in the 30 Years War.

The people you really should show the map to: Your parents. It might make them realize how silly they are in matters of origins.

168 engineer cat  Sat, May 4, 2013 3:02:58pm

it seems all my great grandparents arrived from central and eastern europe in the 1870s and 1880s - which puts them before the bulk of jewish immigration that took place from the 1890s through WWI

…except for one grandparent whose people came over in the 1840s. his grandfather was recorded as a cigar maker and listed as eligible for service in the civil war

169 austin_blue  Sat, May 4, 2013 3:05:26pm

re: #159 Dark_Falcon

I can’t upding anything. When I try, it just kicks me back to the front page.

I’m fine (Safari on a Mac).

170 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 4, 2013 3:13:01pm

re: #169 austin_blue

I’m fine (Safari on a Mac).

The problem has cleared up. I think Charles was just working on something.

171 thedopefishlives  Sat, May 4, 2013 3:13:36pm

re: #168 engineer cat

it seems all my great grandparents arrived from central and eastern europe in the 1870s and 1880s - which puts them before the bulk of jewish immigration that took place from the 1890s through WWI

…except for one grandparent whose people came over in the 1840s. his grandfather was recorded as a cigar maker and listed as eligible for service in the civil war

My ancestors are of Irish and Scottish stock (with a dash of German for flavor, plus I’m sure some other stuff we don’t know about), and were among the first settlers to reach the Indiana Territory in the early 1800’s. We still have one of the trunks that came through Ellis Island.

172 engineer cat  Sat, May 4, 2013 3:25:11pm

re: #171 thedopefishlives

My ancestors are of Irish and Scottish stock (with a dash of German for flavor, plus I’m sure some other stuff we don’t know about), and were among the first settlers to reach the Indiana Territory in the early 1800’s. We still have one of the trunks that came through Ellis Island.

since the last of my ancestors to come over arrived in 1891, they all came over before ellis island was in operation

173 jaunte  Sat, May 4, 2013 3:36:45pm

re: #149 wrenchwench

Sorry for the late reply, I was out planting in the garden. I’ll always go for the jauntier option.


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