Climate Change Landmark of 400 PPM of CO2: More Evidence From 3 Million Years Ago

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In these days of continually streaming propaganda over nearly any politically sensitive issue, the subject of climate change has become so entangled with local and national political interests that it is good to step back and look at what the science is really saying, again.

Today Science magazine published a paper that presented analyses of lake sediments from a north-east Russian lake:

More: Pliocene Warmth, Polar Amplification, and Stepped Pleistocene Cooling Recorded in NE Arctic Russia

Understanding the evolution of Arctic polar climate from the protracted warmth of the middle Pliocene into the earliest glacial cycles in the Northern Hemisphere has been hindered by the lack of continuous, highly resolved Arctic time series. Evidence from Lake El’gygytgyn, NE Arctic Russia, shows that 3.6-3.4 million years ago, summer temperatures were ~8°C warmer than today when pCO2 was ~400 ppm. Multiproxy evidence suggests extreme warmth and polar amplification during the middle Pliocene, sudden stepped cooling events during the Pliocene-Pleistocene transition, and warmer than present Arctic summers until ~2.2 Ma, after the onset of Northern Hemispheric glaciation. Our data are consistent with sea-level records and other proxies indicating that Arctic cooling was insufficient to support large-scale ice sheets until the early Pleistocene.

From the press release:

The Arctic was very warm during a period roughly 3.5 to 2 million years ago—a time when research suggests that the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere was roughly comparable to today’s—leading to the conclusion that relatively small fluctuations in carbon dioxide levels can have a major influence on Arctic climate, according to a new analysis of the longest terrestrial sediment core ever collected in the Arctic.

“One of our major findings is that the Arctic was very warm in the middle Pliocene and Early Pleistocene—roughly 3.6 to 2.2 million years ago—when others have suggested atmospheric carbon dioxide was not much higher than levels we see today,” said Julie Brigham-Grette, of the University of Massachusetts Amherst.

[…]

She added that “this could tell us where we are going in the near future. In other words, the Earth system response to small changes in carbon dioxide is bigger than suggested by earlier climate models.”

[…]

The lake being examined is north of the Arctic Circle.

It is important to remember the phrase Polar Amplification. This lake evidence is just one more in a long list that indicates that the climate will change more significantly towards the poles of the planet. This is why an island in the Pacific, say Hawaii, will experience much less temperature change than the north side of Greenland.

As noted in today’s article in Scientific American, 400 PPM: Carbon Dioxide in the Atmosphere Reaches Prehistoric Levels:

[…]

The last time CO2 levels at Mauna Loa were this high [400 ppm], Homo sapiens did not live there. In fact, the last time CO2 levels are thought to have been this high was more than 2.5 million years ago, an era known as the Pliocene, when the Canadian Arctic boasted forests instead of icy wastes. The land bridge connecting North America and South America had recently formed. The globe’s temperature averaged about 3 degrees C warmer, and sea level lapped coasts 5 meters or more higher.

While the Science paper is behind a pay-wall, the supplemental material is not. Among the information that impressed me was the graph of vegetation changes (from pollen):

In that diagram we can see how the transition from the warmer Pliocene (on the right of the diagram) to the Pleistocene (the “Ice Age”, on the left of the diagram) was accompanied by a change in vegetation. There is no doubt that climate change does indeed change the biome.

Whether we are discussing changes in ecosystems or sea level, it is important to remember that we humans have such a short life and even shorter attention span that large changes are often just overlooked if we rely upon casual glances at the world around us. As common in all areas of science, only careful and systematic observations and analyses can take us out of our biases and “common sense” to gain a greater knowledge of the world around us.

That appears, though, by looking at our popular press and current political environment, to be quite a challenge for us today. There has been no substantive change in the production of CO2 in our modern industrialized world. Growth in CO2 output continues with only modest slowing during the deepest of economic recessions.

What will it take to change our way?

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248 comments
1 Bulworth  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:20:26am

Oh yeah, like we’ll believe Science. Cover-up! Lies!

2 lawhawk  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:20:44am

In a related issue of climate change denialism and WSJ perfidy by hosting op-ed after misguided op-ed that ignores actual science and cherry picked data to come to conclusions that don’t pass the smell test:

3 Bulworth  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:22:22am

re: #2 lawhawk

1. There is no ‘global warming’
2. OK, there is some global warming, but it’s natural and not caused by man and industry
3. OK, there is global warming and some of it is caused by man but global warming is teh awesome because shut up that’s why

/

4 dragonath  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:25:19am

Florida restaurant scraps lion-meat tacos after furor

Hey, but people are good at eating things!

5 lawhawk  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:26:19am

CO2 may have been present in the atmosphere in greater concentrations than right now, but the problem is the time frame for how quickly we’ve gotten there. In the past, there’s been gradual rises and declines. We’ve condensed the rise into the space of about 100 years. That can induce a tipping point from which the global environment cannot recover from.

In the link I posted above, Phil Plait takes the deniers to task for ignoring the combination of time and concentration, or the argument that having more CO2 will benefit plants - ignoring that temperatures and climate will shift where and what plants can survive - turning previously fertile areas (think the breadbaskets of the world) into areas that are facing persistent droughts and water shortages.

That’s why the ongoing persistent droughts across the US are so worrisome. Farmers are already seeing this effect, and consumers are seeing it too - in the form of higher beef, chicken, and produce prices.

6 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:32:17am

re: #4 dragonath

Florida restaurant scraps lion-meat tacos after furor

Hey, but people are good at eating things!

There’s nothing people won’t eat. Lion meat doesn’t sound too appetizing though. I’ve had gator before though.

7 kerFuFFler  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:42:55am

re: #5 lawhawk

“CO2 may have been present in the atmosphere in greater concentrations than right now, but the problem is the time frame for how quickly we’ve gotten there. In the past, there’s been gradual rises and declines. We’ve condensed the rise into the space of about 100 years.”

Exactly! The temperatures themselves don’t seem deathly high so many people don’t understand how serious the problem is. Sure ecosystems adapted to changing conditions on earth before, but the changes were gradual allowing organisms to evolve.

Too bad so many deny evolution, so the argument above makes no sense to them…

8 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:45:50am

OT but seeing mixed reviews at the Gatsby adaptation. Too bad if it’s so-so because this really could be a wonderful thing to adapt on screen. I really want someone to adapt Hemingway’s The Sun Also Rises, they apparently did in the mid 50’s but the actors playing the characters were apparently too old.

9 kerFuFFler  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:51:43am

What also bugs me about this debate is that the deniers seem to be making the argument that unless the science is 100% sure, then we should not do anything about it.

Hell, if there is a 1% chance that something horrible might happen, I would want to take precautions. If there were a bridge with a 1 % chance of failing (and that fact was disclosed), would you take it to make your commute 30 minutes shorter? Some people might make that choice——-but how much less likely would they be to make that choice if their kids were in the car? When it comes to climate change, all our kids are “in the car”.

10 sattv4u2  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:57:26am

re: #6 HappyWarrior

I’ve had gator before though

Prepared properly, gator (amongst other things you wouldn’t think of) is actually very good

I have a feeling that lion would fall into that category also

11 Kragar  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:59:43am

re: #8 HappyWarrior

OT but seeing mixed reviews at the Gatsby adaptation. Too bad if it’s so-so because this really could be a wonderful thing to adapt on screen. I really want someone to adapt Hemingway’s The Sun Also Rises, they apparently did in the mid 50’s but the actors playing the characters were apparently too old.

Review: The Great Gatsby

After eighty-eight years of continuous publication, decades of close critical analysis, and at least one anthropomorphic cat version, you might wonder if there was anything left to say about The Great Gatsby, F. Scott Fitzgerald’s classic novel about 1920s decadence as a masque for sympathetic, humanist tragedy. After watching Baz Luhrmann’s film version, you’ll know that there wasn’t.

Luhrmann, who is to parties what Michael Bay is to the U.S. military, actually seems well suited to Fitzgerald’s novel.
The director of Moulin Rouge and Romeo + Juliet has made a cottage industry of adapting classic literature into modern, orgiastic pop culture events that set classic storylines in a bombastic contemporary mold. Few eras of American history are considered more bombastic than the Roaring Twenties, where the excess of the rich translated famously into unruly parties worthy of Caligula. Or so the legend goes. Luhrmann recreates this environment with his usual flair for anachronistic pop songs and overdesigned crapulence, capturing the period’s superficiality and excess with a sometimes intoxicating verve.

12 Bulworth  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:59:47am

Read the Great Gatsby some time ago, I was for some reason immune to its charms. Haven’t been to a movie in quite a while, though.

13 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:02:56am

Good morning lizards!

Frank says:
Interviewer: “So Frank, you have long hair. Does that make you a woman?” FZ: “You have a wooden leg. Does that make you a table?”

14 sattv4u2  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:04:27am

re: #6 HappyWarrior

re: #10 sattv4u2


I’ve had gator before though

Prepared properly, gator (amongst other things you wouldn’t think of) is actually very good

I have a feeling that lion would fall into that category also

heh,,,, FTA ,,

bison, shark, ostrich, gator, gazelle, rabbit, duck, camel and kangaroo.

I’ve had the highlighted ones!!

15 sattv4u2  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:05:23am

((gator was supposed to be highlighted also))

16 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:09:31am

re: #14 sattv4u2

re: #10 sattv4u2

heh,,,, FTA ,,

bison, shark, ostrich, gator, gazelle, rabbit, duck, camel and kangaroo.

I’ve had the highlighted ones!!

I’ve had all that you’ve had except kangaroo and shark Satt. Yeah I liked gator though. Had it once at the bar my uncle worked at in the Keys and a few other times at this Mardi Gras themed dive bar I liked going to in college. Good eating.

17 Stanghazi  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:10:34am

Shark is really good. Fried in nuggets. Yum.

18 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:11:11am

If we’re going to turn this into most crazy food one’s had. I’ve got to put jellyfish at the top of my list. My family went to a co-worker of my Dad’s for dinner night and we had it there. I don’t remember how it tasted or heck more accurately I don’t remember it having much of a taste but it was my revenge for all the times I’ve been stung.

19 Kragar  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:11:22am

Rand Paul touts Benghazi conspiracy involving secret CIA arms trade

Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) on Thursday night offered a fresh conspiracy regarding the attack in Benghazi, claiming the Obama administration could be trying to hide a secret arms trade.

“I never have quite understood the cover-up — if it was intentional or incompetence,” he told CNN’s Erin Burnett. “But something went on. I mean, they had talking points that they were trying to make it out to be a movie when everybody seemed to be on the ground telling them it had nothing to do a movie. I don’t know if this was for political reasons.”

“I’ve actually always suspected that, although I have no evidence, that maybe we were facilitating arms leaving Libya going through Turkey into Syria.”

I’ve suspected, but have no evidence, that Rand Paul is actually a mollusk.

20 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:11:39am

re: #17 Stanghazi

Shark is really good. Fried in nuggets. Yum.

Yeah I sometimes hear that shark steaks are really good. I need to eat more fish.

21 Kragar  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:12:07am

2 words

Cat Sushi

22 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:12:23am

re: #19 Kragar

Rand Paul touts Benghazi conspiracy involving secret CIA arms trade

I’ve suspected, but have no evidence, that Rand Paul is actually a mollusk.

I’ve always suspected although I have no evidence that Rand Paul is actually two children standing on top of each other pretending to be an adult.

23 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:13:28am

re: #17 Stanghazi

Shark is really good. Fried in nuggets. Yum.

I used to get shark filets for a cajun blackened fish recipe I did. Main requirement was a firm fish that would hold up to being cooked in a nut-butter-spice mix in a cast iron pan on high heat. Shark (at the time) was pretty cheap and worked well.

24 Kragar  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:13:32am

re: #22 HappyWarrior

I’ve always suspected although I have no evidence that Rand Paul is actually two children standing on top of each other pretending to be an adult.

I still imagine Rand carrying Ron around Capital Hill Master-Blaster style.

25 Bulworth  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:13:41am
“I’ve actually always suspected that, although I have no evidence, that maybe we were facilitating arms leaving Libya going through Turkey into Syria.”

It would be irresponsible not to speculate.

Also, too, Erin Burnett has really amped up her Benghazi Boogaloo efforts. Maybe she and Sherry Atkisson can go work for Fauz.

26 sattv4u2  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:13:55am

re: #18 HappyWarrior

If we’re going to turn this into most crazy food one’s had. I’ve got to put jellyfish at the top of my list. My family went to a co-worker of my Dad’s for dinner night and we had it there. I don’t remember how it tasted or heck more accurately I don’t remember it having much of a taste but it was my revenge for all the times I’ve been stung.

Squid doesn’t have much taste on it’s own either

Fried is “eh” to me

I prefer it stuffed (bread stuffing) and covered in a nice tomato based sauce

27 Bulworth  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:14:55am
I never have quite understood the cover-up

Neither have the rest of us. But please proceed, GOP

28 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:15:26am

re: #4 dragonath

Florida restaurant scraps lion-meat tacos after furor

Hey, but people are good at eating things!

I didn’t know lion meat was available anywhere. Is there a lion farm somewhere that raises lions like a farm raises cows?

29 lawhawk  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:15:52am

re: #19 Kragar

That’s all they’ve got. Wishful thinking and fanciful and grandiose claims that are based nothing more than supposition.

The facts offered up as evidence don’t amount to scandal or a conspiracy. It shows a government that remains with problems of interdepartmental turf wars and Congressional GOP indifference to national security (yeah, that’s what you get when you not only refuse to fund security initiatives at diplomatic missions, but actively cut the funding and brag about it).

It’s a bunch of “ifs” that don’t amount to anything more than a manufactured outrage ahead of 2014 and 2016 elections.

30 sattv4u2  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:16:32am

re: #28 NJDhockeyfan

I didn’t know lion meat was available anywhere. Is there a lion farm somewhere that raises lions like a farm raises cows?

Nahh

They just sneak into the local zoo late at night!!
/

31 Bulworth  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:16:49am

re: #19 Kragar

Hey, we just have honest caring concerns and there remain many questions….and all we want to do is objectively look at why Obummer LIED and had faithful innocent Americans killed for Islam. Why do people still say we’re just politizing this worst scandal since Watergate?

//

32 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:18:16am

re: #30 sattv4u2

Nahh

They just sneak into the local zoo late at night!!
/

Free range lion meat is much more tasty!

33 iossarian  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:18:25am

Friday thought: does anyone else tend to read “libertarian” as “librarian” in political blog post titles?

34 sattv4u2  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:22:52am

re: #33 iossarian

Friday thought: does anyone else tend to read “libertarian” as “librarian” in political blog post titles?

Yes
Image: foot-librarian-650.jpg

Although in my scenario, she looks more like
Image: vindication-librarian-0061.jpg

35 GeneJockey  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:29:20am

re: #31 Bulworth

Hey, we just have honest caring concerns and there remain many questions….and all we want to do is objectively look at why Obummer LIED and had faithful innocent Americans killed for Islam. Why do people still say we’re just politizing this worst scandal since Watergate?

//

You know, I’m starting to think that the Right are being driven to that extreme (as posited by Eric Rush yesterday, IIRC) simply because they’ve been unable to find anything else - no real ‘Stand Down’ order, no White House rewriting of the CIAs talking points, no smoking gun emails. They can’t let go of BENGHAZI!!!11!!!, so they have to make the conspiracy even more grandiose and crazy.

36 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:29:55am

About that meteor spotted over the UK the other day…

Meteor ‘part of debris from Halley’s Comet’

STARgazers across Oxfordshire have told of the awe of seeing a green-tinged meteor flash across the evening sky.

The object, believed to have formed from the debris of Halley’s Comet, shot north over England and Wales at about 9.45pm on Wednesday.

…Space scientist Maggie Aderin-Pocock said the meteor’s size was unusual, adding: “It seems this one was particularly large and particularly bright, which is why it’s caught so much attention.

“It’s quite likely to be part of the Eta Aquarids, which is the debris left by Halley’s Comet.”

37 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:29:57am

re: #26 sattv4u2

Squid doesn’t have much taste on it’s own either

Fried is “eh” to me

I prefer it stuffed (bread stuffing) and covered in a nice tomato based sauce

Now that sounds good. I’ve never had squid on its own though.

38 dragonath  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:33:14am

The weirdest food I’ve eaten was hot dogs…

39 iossarian  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:33:20am

re: #34 sattv4u2

Yes
Image: foot-librarian-650.jpg

Although in my scenario, she looks more like
Image: vindication-librarian-0061.jpg

Dude, if that’s the best “sexy librarian” you can find, your google-fu skills need some updating!

40 iossarian  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:34:38am

re: #38 dragonath

The weirdest food I’ve eaten was hot dogs…

Mystery meat at the county fair.

41 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:35:10am

Most of the “weird foods” involve eating exotic animals.

What is the weirdest vegetarian food anyone has eaten?

42 Stanghazi  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:36:38am

re: #41 Vicious Babushka

Most of the “weird foods” involve eating exotic animals.

What is the weirdest vegetarian food anyone has eaten?

Black olive enchiladas. We at first thought it was meat. But no…

43 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:36:41am

re: #37 HappyWarrior

Now that sounds good. I’ve never had squid on its own though.

If you are in Monterey area you can check this out. I wish I lived near there. It looks like a lot of fun.

1st Annual Great Clam Chowder and Calamari Festival, Memorial Day Weekend 2012

44 dragonath  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:36:54am

re: #40 iossarian

Mystery meat at the county fair.

Is it really pork and chicken or just flying pigs?

45 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:37:14am

re: #41 Vicious Babushka

Most of the “weird foods” involve eating exotic animals.

What is the weirdest vegetarian food anyone has eaten?

Tofu. It tasted like a wet paper bag. Bleh.

46 stabby  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:37:51am

re: #41 Vicious Babushka

I don’t know if anyone has ever eaten this
Venus flytrap salad

47 wrenchwench  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:38:43am

re: #2 lawhawk

In a related issue of climate change denialism and WSJ perfidy by hosting op-ed after misguided op-ed that ignores actual science and cherry picked data to come to conclusions that don’t pass the smell test:

It was co-authored by New Mexico’s embarrassment and NASA’s dumbest-ever astronaut, Harrison Schmitt.

48 lawhawk  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:38:51am

re: #41 Vicious Babushka

Most of the “weird foods” involve eating exotic animals.

What is the weirdest vegetarian food anyone has eaten?

Veggie Heaven’s Malaysian curry hot pot.

Don’t know how they make their faux-meat, but they’ve got the texture and taste down pat. They also make a phenomenal faux-duck that tastes as rich as the real deal.

49 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:39:02am

re: #45 NJDhockeyfan

Tofu. It tasted like a wet paper bag. Bleh.

Tofu sucks.

I once saw vegan “cheez” at Whole Foods and I thought Great! Now I can haz cheezburger. But then I read the list of ingredients and it didn’t seem as though it contained much “food” so I decided to not haz cheezburger.

50 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:39:32am

re: #46 stabby

I don’t know if anyone has ever eaten this
Venus flytrap salad

In Soviet Russia, salad tosses you!

51 stabby  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:39:50am
And eating apples promotes violence against unborn apple trees. :O

Once a vegetarian BBC reporter was forced to eat a fly. He was right on the screen telling the news, and a fly flew in his mouth. And he couldn’t embarrass the middle-class British by spitting right before the camera, so he broke his vows.

52 iossarian  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:41:09am

re: #49 Vicious Babushka

Tofu sucks.

I once saw vegan “cheez” at Whole Foods and I thought Great! Now I can haz cheezburger. But then I read the list of ingredients and it didn’t seem as though it contained much “food” so I decided to not haz cheezburger.

I find that tofu’s pretty variable - it depends a lot on its texture, suitability for the dish etc. It’s great in a good Pad Thai for example.

Worst vegetarian food for me is probably various kinds of Asian dessert. Cold rice and sugar. Not yum.

53 wrenchwench  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:41:22am

re: #41 Vicious Babushka

Most of the “weird foods” involve eating exotic animals.

What is the weirdest vegetarian food anyone has eaten?

I went to a Seventh Day Adventist restaurant in Loma Linda, California, and had a variety plate with 5 kinds of faux meat. They all tasted like petroleum products.

54 lawhawk  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:41:30am

re: #47 wrenchwench

Denialists will point out that he’s an Apollo astronaut and a geologist, but ignore that he’s not a climatologist or that he’s gone Alex Jones conspiracy crazy.

55 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:41:30am

re: #51 stabby

There was an old lady who swallowed a fly!
Swallowed a fly!
I think she might die.

56 lawhawk  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:42:57am

re: #52 iossarian

Tofu exists in such a wide range of textures and types that one version could be great in a pad thai, but be horrible in another setting. I prefer the real firm types - less moisture makes them easier to stir fry.

57 wrenchwench  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:44:07am

re: #54 lawhawk

Denialists will point out that he’s an Apollo astronaut and a geologist, but ignore that he’s not a climatologist or that he’s gone Alex Jones conspiracy crazy.

He refused a background check when Gov. Martinez appointed him to be Secretary of the New Mexico Energy, Minerals and Natural Resources Department, so he didn’t get the job. I was glad.

58 iossarian  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:46:40am

re: #55 Vicious Babushka

There was an old lady who swallowed a fly!
Swallowed a fly!
I think she might die.

I know an old lady called Phyllis Schlafly.
I don’t know why she swallowed all that bullshit.
I guess she’s a Republican!

59 iossarian  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:48:21am

re: #56 lawhawk

Tofu exists in such a wide range of textures and types that one version could be great in a pad thai, but be horrible in another setting. I prefer the real firm types - less moisture makes them easier to stir fry.

Yup. I’ve gone with a seasoned extra-firm tofu recently for sandwiches - you can slice it like ham. It’s pretty good.

When I have time I squeeze water out of wet tofu for pad thai etc., but that’s a hassle and a mess so I often go with the firm dry stuff there too.

60 stabby  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:48:27am

re: #55 Vicious Babushka

Harry’s Place has been down for a couple days…
I once (well many times) got in an argument over climate change with that Doc guy there. He claims to be a medical researcher, but his total wingnut take on climate change involves using words that imply that it’s a total fraud, but when pressed admitting that there is climate change but that it isn’t big enough yet to worry about…

How does he do constant spinning like that without hating himself for the dishonesty? He also claims to be an atheist but spends a lot of time repeating wingnut resentment of people who disparage the worst far right theocratic christians. He even defends the Dominionists, you know the sorts who think that each area of the country is controlled by a demon or 10 and that the Statue of Liberty is a satanic idol.

61 Bulworth  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:48:29am

re: #53 wrenchwench

hah, as a former SDA I still do indulge in some of the vegemeat I can buy at their local store. Have some favorites from childhood.

62 stabby  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:49:41am

What’s with people who claim not to hold extreme beliefs but seem to consider extremists their tribe? And spend all their effort attacking that tribe’s enemies?

63 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:50:14am

re: #41 Vicious Babushka

Most of the “weird foods” involve eating exotic animals.

What is the weirdest vegetarian food anyone has eaten?

Does Durian count? :)

64 stabby  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:51:03am

Harry’s Place is oddly full of wingnuts who love Fox News, toe the wingnut line but claim not to hold those individual wingnut beliefs…

65 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:52:29am

re: #60 stabby

Harry’s Place has been down for a couple days…
I once (well many times) got in an argument over climate change with that Doc guy there. He claims to be a medical researcher, but his total wingnut take on climate change involves using words that imply that it’s a total fraud, but when pressed admitting that there is climate change but that it isn’t big enough yet to worry about…

How does he do constant spinning like that without hating himself for the dishonesty? He also claims to be an atheist but spends a lot of time repeating wingnut resentment of people who disparage the worst far right theocratic christians. He even defends the Dominionists, you know the sorts who think that each area of the country is controlled by a demon or 10 and that the Statue of Liberty is a satanic idol.

I haven’t looked at Harry’s Place for more than a year. Although the bloggers of HP are very nice and still occasionally send me Tweets and emails, some of the commenters there just creeped me out.

66 stabby  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:53:57am

re: #65 Vicious Babushka

The commenters are a lot worse than they used to be. The creeps have driven away the rest.

67 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:56:48am

The girl that let me try her tofu was a vegetarian who loved to save animals. She would be late for work often because she would stop her car on the street to pick up a turtle and place it across the road.

One night she invited me over for dinner. The meal was a bowl of parsley sprinkled with cayenne pepper seeds and a dash of oil and vinegar. This was a regular meal for her she said. It certainly explained why she was thin as a blade grass.

68 sattv4u2  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:58:18am

re: #39 iossarian

Dude, if that’s the best “sexy librarian” you can find, your google-fu skills need some updating!

Best one I could find that I cared to share on a public forum!!

:)

69 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:58:53am

re: #67 NJDhockeyfan

The girl that let me try her tofu was a vegetarian who loved to save animals. She would be late for work often because she would stop her car on the street to pick up a turtle and place it across the road.

One night she invited me over for dinner. The meal was a bowl of parsley sprinkled with cayenne pepper seeds and a dash of oil and vinegar. This was a regular meal for her she said. It certainly explained why she was thin as a blade grass.

Sounds to me like she used veganism to justify her anorexia.

70 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:00:16am

DERP
Let’s see how well their GUNZ can protect the workers at the fertilizer factory!
(Ray Gonzales is not a wingnut)

71 stabby  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:01:04am
72 iossarian  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:01:20am

re: #68 sattv4u2

Best one I could find that I cared to share on a public forum!!

:)

To be fair, googling “sexy librarian” is likely to produce some pretty eye-popping stuff. Not suitable for a good clean American family blog like this!

73 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:01:51am

re: #69 Vicious Babushka

Sounds to me like she used veganism to justify her anorexia.

That possible. She was very kooky. She said one of her professors was being followed to work and back home by a UFO. I don’t know which one of them is nuts.

74 stabby  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:02:05am
75 sattv4u2  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:02:05am

re: #72 iossarian

To be fair, googling “sexy librarian” is likely to produce some pretty eye-popping stuff. Not suitable for a good clean American family blog like this!

Yup

It’s EXACTLY what I put in as the search

Had to choose carefully!!

76 iossarian  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:02:45am

re: #70 Vicious Babushka

DERP
Let’s see how well their GUNZ can protect the workers at the fertilizer factory!

I like the lion mascot. Maybe if they had lions roaming the corridors, that would also deter would-be child killers?

Think of the children!

77 stabby  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:02:46am
78 Bulworth  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:03:41am

re: #72 iossarian

Oh great. Another time suck for when I get home.

/

79 iossarian  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:04:18am

re: #78 Bulworth

Oh great. Another time suck for when I get home.

/

OMG I’m sorry I gave away the “google sexy librarian for instant thrillz” secret!

80 Bulworth  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:04:53am

re: #79 iossarian

I’m being so corrupted over here. /

81 jaunte  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:08:54am
82 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:11:21am

I used to like this guy. What an asshole.

Mona Charen: Stephen Hawking visited Iran, but boycotts Israel

Stephen Hawking, the world-renowned physicist and celebrity, has cancelled a planned trip to Israel to participate in a conference sponsored by Israeli President Shimon Peres. His explanation: “I have received a number of emails from Palestinian academics. They are unanimous that I should respect the boycott. In view of this, I must withdraw from the conference.”

It’s an odd world isn’t it? By what inverted moral calculus does someone of Hawking’s stature find it morally problematic to set foot on the soil of the region’s only democracy? One wonders how many other nations has Hawking declined to visit in order to express his disapproval of their policies?

A glance at his CV reveals that Hawking visited the Soviet Union in 1973. Russia is no human rights picnic today (it is one of two chief sponsors of the Assad regime in Syria, for example), but those were the bad old days of Brezhnev, when uprisings for freedom in Hungary and Czechoslovakia were ruthlessly suppressed, the KGB inspired terror and scientists who displeased the regime were packed off to the Gulag.

The incredibly well traveled Hawking also visited Iran in 2007 for the International Physics Olympiad. His conscience was apparently untroubled by the stoning of adulteresses, imprisonment without trial, torture and the persecution of religious and ethnic minorities — to say nothing of arming terrorists and threatening to wipe countries off the map.

83 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:11:29am

The BENGHAZI!!11!! one-size-fits-all Answer To Everything:
And “What Difference Does It MakeTM

84 Lidane  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:13:13am
One of our major findings is that the Arctic was very warm in the middle Pliocene and Early Pleistocene—roughly 3.6 to 2.2 million years ago—when others have suggested atmospheric carbon dioxide was not much higher than levels we see today,” said Julie Brigham-Grette, of the University of Massachusetts Amherst.

LIES!

How could something have happened millions of years ago when the Earth is only 6,000 years old?

85 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:14:02am

Wingnuts do not give any more of a shit for the families of BENGHAZI!!11!! victims than they do for families of Newtown victims.

86 blueraven  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:16:41am

Interesting development in the West, TX explosion

EMS volunteer arrested on possession of destructive device charge

WEST — Bryce Reed, a volunteer EMS worker who frequently spoke with the media during the aftermath of the West explosion, was detained and faces a charge of possession of a destructive device.

Reed, who served as a volunteer EMS worker for West, was arrested Thursday morning and is being held at the McLennan County Jail.

Sources familiar with the case said Reed, 31, was in possession of possible bomb making materials. He is scheduled to appear before a federal magistrate judge Friday morning in Waco.

At this point, agents have not connected the arrest to April 17 West Fertilizer Co. explosion that killed 15, including 12 first responders.

During the April 25 memorial in Waco, Reed gave a previously recorded eulogy for Cyrus Reed, his best friend who was killed battling the blaze.

87 Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:16:56am

re: #82 NJDhockeyfan

I used to like this guy. What an asshole.

Mona Charen: Stephen Hawking visited Iran, but boycotts Israel

Why did you use to like him?

88 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:18:55am

re: #87 Bert’s House of Beef and Obdicuts

Why did you use to like him?

Because Stephen Hawking is a brilliant man. His TV programs are great.

89 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:19:58am

What a great picture of the spire.

Image: spire.jpg

90 Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:20:16am

re: #88 NJDhockeyfan

Because Stephen Hawking is a brilliant man. His TV programs are great.

Well, good news, he’s still a brilliant man, and his books and programs still inspire kids to get into science.

91 Decatur Deb  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:20:42am

re: #89 NJDhockeyfan

What a great picture of the spire.

Image: spire.jpg

Sometimes a spire is just a spire…

92 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:22:04am

re: #90 Bert’s House of Beef and Obdicuts

Well, good news, he’s still a brilliant man, and his books and programs still inspire kids to get into science.

He certainly is.

93 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:22:05am

re: #90 Bert’s House of Beef and Obdicuts

Well, good news, he’s still a brilliant man, and his books and programs still inspire kids to get into science.

It is possible for someone to be utterly brilliant and inspirational in one field, and average or even lame in a different topic. Mozart sucked at financial planning. Einstein was crappy at relationships.

94 Lidane  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:24:14am

re: #69 Vicious Babushka

Sounds to me like she used veganism to justify her anorexia.

Seriously. That wasn’t a meal. WTF.

95 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:25:47am

re: #94 Lidane

Seriously. That wasn’t a meal. WTF.

It wasn’t even a snack.

96 Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:25:49am

re: #93 Vicious Babushka

It is possible for someone to be utterly brilliant and inspirational in one field, and average or even lame in a different topic. Mozart sucked at financial planning. Einstein was crappy at relationships.

There are lots of people with terrible political views in one area or another who still aren’t just ‘assholes’. I don’t like litmus tests. Even global warming deniers— who are helping to drive humanity to the possibility of extinction— are normally just ignorant or foolish.

97 szilard  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:27:19am

A fat lot of good this kind of articles do to people who think the Earth is 4500 years old. How do you convince someone who thinks Pliocene is just part of a bad dream misguided scientists had after eating too much curry for dinner? These people vote, so politicians cater for them. This is pretty much the end of the story. Unless someone comes up with something that convinces young Earth believers about climate change, there will be 0 to nothing political will to do anything about the environment.

98 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:27:29am

re: #95 Vicious Babushka

It wasn’t even a snack.

I was so fucking hungry when I left.

99 Lidane  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:28:54am

re: #95 Vicious Babushka

It wasn’t even a snack.

It was just something to put in her stomach to give it something to do. That’s all.

Real vegan meals can be very filling and substantial.

100 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:28:58am

re: #98 NJDhockeyfan

I was so fucking hungry when I left.

It is totally possible to make some kickass vegan meals.

101 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:29:58am

from my fb this am. I thought it was worth a Page of it’s own.

Fill in the Blank—TOP 10 Government Programs

How is it by you?

102 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:30:31am

re: #100 Vicious Babushka

It is totally possible to make some kickass vegan meals.

I’m sure. Personally I still want meat on my plate no matter how delicious the veggies are.

103 Lidane  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:30:34am

re: #98 NJDhockeyfan

I was so fucking hungry when I left.

That’s because you didn’t eat anything. Parsley is a garnish for a reason.

104 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:31:44am

re: #103 Lidane

That’s because you didn’t eat anything. Parsley is a garnish for a reason.

She was a waitress at the time. You’d think she would have figured that out by then.

105 klys  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:33:43am

re: #103 Lidane

That’s because you didn’t eat anything. Parsley is a garnish for a reason.

Parsley was invented so I can honestly say that there are herbs I don’t like.

106 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:33:46am

Derpfest today about the

BENGHAZI TALKING POINTS WERE EDITED TWELVE TIMES!!11!!! COVERUP!!11!!

107 stabby  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:34:25am

rawstory.com

…. She seems to actually believe this “family values” and “traditional marriage” horseshit conservatives pump out!

Image: tumblr_m87g9v5DQK1qgfmalo1_500.gif

Image: tumblr_m9c7xfPt2B1r3agspo1_400.gif

Look, I’ll give it to you straight: Republicans are absolutely, 100% hypocrites if you take their blather about marriage and family at face value. But you’re not supposed to take it at face value. We all understand, or most of us not named “Hilary Towers” do, that “marriage” and “family” are all code words the right uses to mean good, old-fashioned gay-bashing, lady-controlling, child-abusing patriarchy. Straight white men get a behavior exemption from their moralism and god-bothering, as long as they make sure to repeat the pious bullshit that is used strictly to justify stripping women of reproductive rights, stifling gay rights, and treating children like property instead of full human beings in their own right. Taking a mistress is not in violation of their actual, pro-patriarchy values. In fact, nothing says you’re a powerful man who runs things like being able to fuck whoever you want, regardless of who it hurts, while making other people’s lives miserable for their own private sexual choices. Even those that are made by us boring people who aren’t causing personal pain and suffering with our choices. …

108 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:34:33am
109 Gus  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:35:11am

)($)(%&@#)(&*%! AT&T.

110 darthstar  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:35:39am

It was cool out this morning…a little misty, even.

Banjo doing his Friday jump:
Image: 965024_10151608159113024_164913218_o.jpg

GLOBALWARMINGISAMYTH!!!

111 Bulworth  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:36:47am

re: #83 Vicious Babushka

Morans!

112 Bulworth  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:37:26am

re: #106 Vicious Babushka

Anything to keep the Benghazi Boogaloo going…

113 stabby  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:38:49am

re: #111 Bulworth

I fully expect to hear a house Republican stand up on the floor and posture that Bengzi is the most important thing in history because it’s the end of America that our President works for the Muslim Brotherhood

114 Lidane  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:40:42am

re: #113 stabby

I fully expect to hear a house Republican stand up on the floor and posture that Bengzi is the most important thing in history because it’s the end of America that our President works for the Muslim Brotherhood

Louie Gohmert is already working on this speech, I’m sure.

115 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:40:58am

OMG! Israeli company advertises on right wing radio show!
Rush Limbaugh’s New National Advertiser SodaStream Illegally Profits from Palestinian Misery
One of the biggest pitfalls of hate based activism is crossover appeal between hate groups. It’s entirely possible to dislike Pam Geller without joining forces with Mondowiess, It’s also possible to dislike Limbaugh without joining the BDS movement.

116 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:42:42am

DERP

117 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:43:32am

delanceyplace.com 5/10/13 - charlie chaplin and his mother

sounds like a world Rush would approve of.

118 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:43:43am

OMG..please God, no. Not another trial!

119 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:44:12am

re: #115 Killgore Trout

OMG! Israeli company advertises on right wing radio show!
Rush Limbaugh’s New National Advertiser SodaStream Illegally Profits from Palestinian Misery
One of the biggest pitfalls of hate based activism is crossover appeal between hate groups. It’s entirely possible to dislike Pam Geller without joining forces with Mondowiess, It’s also possible to dislike Limbaugh without joining the BDS movement.

Yeah I’m seeing that on Twitter. Sodastream totally rocks. You can buy them at the Zionist Mall.

120 klys  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:44:38am

re: #115 Killgore Trout

You spend more time reading Daily Kos than I do.

121 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:44:41am
122 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:45:36am
123 klys  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:45:46am

re: #119 Vicious Babushka

That being said, I’m not going to give money to a company that advertises on Rush’s show.

124 Gus  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:45:49am

BENGHAZI IS WORSE THAN PEARL HARBOR!!11TY

125 Lidane  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:46:38am

WTF.

126 Bulworth  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:47:02am

re: #116 Vicious Babushka

Perjury! Ferocious! Severely Ferocious!

127 Lidane  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:47:23am

re: #124 Gus

BENGHAZI IS WORSE THAN PEARL HARBOR!!11TY

128 Bulworth  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:48:17am

re: #116 Vicious Babushka

DERP

Obummer is Billary’s puppet!!

Retweet!

129 iossarian  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:49:16am

re: #125 Lidane

WTF.

What was the 12-year old thinking? Should have shot the 11-year old first.

What are we teaching kids nowadays?

130 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:49:31am

Back in the 70s I knew people in Albany, Ga who made cake frosting mixing lard with powdered sugar.

131 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:49:48am
132 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:50:13am
133 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:50:38am

re: #130 NJDhockeyfan

There are some things that taste so much better when made with Lard vs using vegetable shortening.

134 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:51:05am

Missouri bill would nullify all federal gun control laws

Read more here: kansascity.com

135 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:51:59am

re: #105 klys

Parsley was invented so I can honestly say that there are herbs I don’t like.

Parsley as a garnish with the stereotypical sprig on the plate is a joke.

Freshly chopped is added to the dish at the right time (usually not long before serving) adds some interesting texture and flavors to a dish.

136 Gus  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:52:32am

re: #128 Bulworth

Retweet!

IMPEACH OBAMA!!11TY WE CAN DO THIS! MAKE THIS GO VIRAL! RETWEET!!11TY #TGDN

137 klys  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:53:02am

re: #135 Feline Fearless Leader

Parsley as a garnish with the stereotypical sprig on the plate is a joke.

Freshly chopped is added to the dish at the right time (usually not long before serving) adds some interesting texture and flavors to a dish.

I genuinely dislike the flavor of parsley. I may add a tiny bit if I think that the dish as a whole will fall apart without it, but I try to find a substitute when possible.

138 stabby  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:53:31am

The convenient thing about President Hillary Clinton is that the “Impeach Hillary” bumper stickers have been on cars for a whole decade now, at least in southern California.

Can it possibly be true that ImpeachObama.whatever was registered in 2004, before Obama was even a senator?

139 iossarian  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:53:38am

re: #133 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

There are some things that taste so much better when made with Lard vs using vegetable shortening.

Mmmm - Staffordshire oatcakes warmed in bacon fat. With the bacon on top.

I’m out - that vision of deliciousness requires me to go and lie down for a bit.

140 stabby  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:54:22am

g2g. :

141 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:54:28am

Bachmann: 9/11 and Benghazi Were God’s Judgment

There is a video, but I don’t think I can watch it.

142 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:54:48am

re: #122 NJDhockeyfan

Strange. I was taught as a child that crossing your fingers while lying made it alright. So I guess that lying for Jesus was socially acceptable even for children.
/

143 Gus  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:55:44am

re: #141 FemNaziBitch

Bachmann: 9/11 and Benghazi Were God’s Judgment

There is a video, but I don’t think I can watch it.

Blah, blah, blah, blah.
— Michele Bachmann

144 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:55:47am

re: #132 Vicious Babushka

Is that like those silly commercials where the car buyers need “more drama” associated with their purchase?
:p

145 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:56:16am

re: #137 klys

I genuinely dislike the flavor of parsley. I may add a tiny bit if I think that the dish as a whole will fall apart without it, but I try to find a substitute when possible.

I have an aversion to cilantro. I am told that it may be genetic. Once I was making chicken soup and I was out of parsley so I sent Zedushka to the store. He came home with a bunch of something that looked like parsley and I just grabbed it and put it in the soup.

That night all my kids complained that the soup tasted like soap!

I can stand arugula if I chop up ONE leaf and use it as a seasoning in a salad of other greens.

146 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:57:22am

re: #137 klys

I genuinely dislike the flavor of parsley. I may add a tiny bit if I think that the dish as a whole will fall apart without it, but I try to find a substitute when possible.

I tend to use basil quite often instead of parsley since I’m not growing parsley or cilantro in the window boxen, but do have 3-4 varieties of basil available.

147 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:57:32am

re: #144 Feline Fearless Leader

Is that like those silly commercials where the car buyers need “more drama” associated with their purchase?
:p

“Professional stunt driver—please do not attempt this maneuver.”

148 Lidane  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:57:47am

re: #134 FemNaziBitch

Missouri bill would nullify all federal gun control laws

Read more here: kansascity.com

Who needs a Supremacy Clause? WTF.

149 Gus  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:57:49am

Basil is my favorite.

150 klys  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:58:04am

re: #145 Vicious Babushka

I have an aversion to cilantro. I am told that it may be genetic. Once I was making chicken soup and I was out of parsley so I sent Zedushka to the store. He came home with a bunch of something that looked like parsley and I just grabbed it and put it in the soup.

That night all my kids complained that the soup tasted like soap!

I can stand arugula if I chop up ONE leaf and use it as a seasoning in a salad of other greens.

I have definitely met folks with the cilantro aversion before. I am not one of those people.

I know someone with an aversion to basil. I am also not that person.

151 Gus  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:58:19am

BENGHAZI IS WORSE THAN THE BATAAN DEATH MARCH! RETWEET! #TGDN

152 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:59:57am
153 Lidane  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:00:47am

re: #145 Vicious Babushka

Cilantro is an acquired taste. I happen to like it, but I know a few people who don’t.

It’s such a common ingredient in Mexican food that I don’t even think about it anymore.

154 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:02:17am

re: #149 Gus

Basil is my favorite.

GARLIC!

155 BigPapa  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:02:22am

My favorite Thai place has a salad with parsley, cilantro, and basil in it.

Mo’ fo’ me den.

156 BigPapa  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:03:18am

PARSLEY IS WORSE THAN BENGHAZI!!11ty #TGDN

157 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:03:57am

Hmm. Correction.

I *do* have cilantro planted. Just hasn’t come up yet. It’s next to the thyme. Also have a pots with dill and rosemary growing in them.

The rosemary and basil are large enough now that I can start gathering leaves. :)

Hope to get some peas as well, but the one cat has taken to chewing on them while leaving the catnip plant strictly alone.

158 darthstar  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:04:15am

re: #118 NJDhockeyfan

OMG..please God, no. Not another trial!

Wow…has it been six years already? Well, I suppose it’s been almost 20 years since the real killers got away on the Nicole Brown murder.

Why can’t he just go serve his time quietly? And why must we be told about his potential appeals?

159 Gus  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:04:34am

re: #156 BigPapa

PARSLEY IS WORSE THAN BENGHAZI!!11ty #TGDN

RETWEET! #PATRIOT

160 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:05:35am

Looks like some shit is heating up in Libya again

161 Stanghazi  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:05:37am

I top my linguine and white clam dish with chopped tomatoes and a lot of parsley. Its very good.

162 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:06:45am

re: #149 Gus

Basil is my favorite.

Any particular flavor of it?

The varieties I have in the boxes right now include a few that taste/smell like citrus (lemon/lime) and one that smells like licorice (anise) plus a few that are generally just default sweet basil smell.

163 Gus  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:08:03am

re: #162 Feline Fearless Leader

Any particular flavor of it?

The varieties I have in the boxes right now include a few that taste/smell like citrus (lemon/lime) and one that smells like licorice (anise) plus a few that are generally just default sweet basil smell.

Just your standard Safeway basil. :D

164 Gus  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:08:37am

BENGHAZI IS WORSE THAN PINEAPPLE PIZZA! RETWEET! #TGDN

165 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:08:49am

re: #155 BigPapa

My favorite Thai place has a salad with parsley, cilantro, and basil in it.

Mo’ fo’ me den.

tabuli!!!!

166 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:08:50am

Last night I made pasta tossed with mushrooms fried in butter, parmesan, and chopped parsley.

167 klys  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:09:21am

re: #152 FemNaziBitch

Fact vs. Fiction in Cleveland: How a Sick Story Became Too Sick to Be True

This is a pretty good article.

On the malleability of human memory, I have a very distinct memory of when I was 4, being outside in a thunderstorm and seeing a bolt of lightning strike my driveway not more than 10 feet away. I was terrified and ran inside and buried my face in the couch. I can describe the scene perfectly, up to and including the smell of the couch when I buried my face in it.

The problem, of course, is that this never happened. I don’t think it would be physically possible for me to be that close to a lightning bolt and not be knocked backwards - but I wasn’t. My mother has no recollection of anything along these lines happening. My best guess is that I dreamed the entire incident, but it is so vivid and real that it took a while to come to that conclusion.

This is why I tend to be skeptical of human memory.

168 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:09:39am

re: #166 Vicious Babushka

Last night I made pasta tossed with mushrooms fried in butter, parmesan, and chopped parsley.

last night I made a bowl of cereal —pumpkin flax

169 klys  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:10:00am

re: #166 Vicious Babushka

Last night I made pasta tossed with mushrooms fried in butter, parmesan, and chopped parsley.

It sounds good up until the parsley. I’ll just put some basil on mine.

170 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:10:24am

re: #161 Stanghazi

I top my linguine and white clam dish with chopped tomatoes and a lot of parsley. Its very good.

I see a lot of recipes in my cookbook that like dumping a few tbsp of freshly chopped parsely on the dish or into the sauce a few minutes before serving. From doing that with some tomato-heavy soup and sauce recipes I think the parsley bitterness is well masked, but you get some crunch from the small stalks not being cooked through and little sparks of the bitterness as a change-up as you do crunch a small piece.

(I compare this to being similar to my brother’s potato-leek soup - with wild leeks. You get chunks of leek and bite into them and get this little explosion of wonderful leek flavor on your tongue.)

171 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:13:24am

re: #169 klys

It sounds good up until the parsley. I’ll just put some basil on mine.

YMMV. I got the idea from reading a recipe for Spaghetti Alla Carbonara, but I don’t eat bacon (more for you guys!) so I looked for a vegetarian substitute.

172 Bulworth  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:14:27am

re: #171 Vicious Babushka

What. Does. YMMV mean? I just want to know the TROOF!

173 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:14:58am

re: #172 Bulworth

What. Does. YMMV mean? I just want to know the TROOF!

Your Mileage May Vary.

174 Charles Johnson  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:15:09am

Good lord. These people are such goddamned idiots, sometimes it honestly blows my mind.

Received through our contact form this morning - I knew it was a wingnut as soon as soon as I saw the email “address”.

From JoeBlow@Noneya.com

Seems like things have taken a turn for the worse via ABC news on talking points being altered 12 times. You should stick to things you know something about like man-made global warming. Oh that’s right…
Never mind ;)

The smiley face is always nice at the end of a stupid hate mail.

175 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:16:31am

Paul Cameron: ‘When They’re Partnered, Gays Do Nastier Things’ Than ‘When They’re Just Flirting From Bathroom To Park’

ROTFLAMO, all I can think if is that guy from Minnesota(?) who described what happens in anal sex at the town board meeting.

176 Gus  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:17:04am

re: #174 Charles Johnson

Good lord. These people are such goddamned idiots, sometimes it honestly blows my mind.

Received through our contact form this morning - I knew it was a wingnut as soon as soon as I saw the email “address”.

The smiley face is always nice at the end of a stupid hate mail.

Just another one of your run of the mill high IQ wingnuts. //

177 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:17:18am

re: #174 Charles Johnson

Good lord. These people are such goddamned idiots, sometimes it honestly blows my mind.

Received through our contact form this morning - I knew it was a wingnut as soon as soon as I saw the email “address”.

The smiley face is always nice at the end of a stupid hate mail.

Atlantic Wire has already debunked the “Talking Points” er, talking point.

178 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:17:58am

re: #172 Bulworth

What. Does. YMMV mean? I just want to know the TROOF!

I get more mileage discussing cooking and use of herbs here than having my blood pressure go up from watching idiocy, political and media pandering, and shoddy journalism repeated endlessly on CNN.

:D

179 Bulworth  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:19:11am

re: #175 FemNaziBitch

Cameron said that he was mildly “pro-gayish” before he started studying the issue but “then I saw what they did and I thought, ‘boy this is something that is really not only disgusting but this probably has medical consequences.’”

And you should see some of the stuff I have under my mattress, for research purposes. Yeah my wife wonders about all the time I spend on the Innertubes doing research. But I’m just trying to find The Truth

180 Lidane  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:20:43am
181 ProTARDISLiberal  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:21:24am

re: #160 NJDhockeyfan

Muslim Brotherhood is trying to overthrow the government. There is a hell of alot of resistance to that.

182 Charles Johnson  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:22:39am
183 Bulworth  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:22:49am

re: #177 Vicious Babushka

the ultra truthers believe the Obama administration colluded with terrorists to stage the kidnapping of Ambassador Chris Stevens in order to set up a prisoner exchange that would made President Obama look like a tough peace negotiator right before the election.

It would be irresponsible not to speculate.

184 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:24:02am

re: #165 FemNaziBitch

tabuli!!!!

Hmm… Tabbouleh.

I might try an experimental variation on that. See if I can substitute buckwheat for the bulgar, and perhaps add some basil in with the parsley for some flavor variation.

185 darthstar  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:24:12am
186 darthstar  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:25:18am

Okay…this is a onesie I’d wear.

Image: 921492_10151905573898916_966491349_o.jpg

187 klys  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:26:48am

re: #185 darthstar

Image: 62630_10151913531729966_4208253_n.jpg

That cracks me up.

Reading articles on CNN this morning, they have one about the guy who was bemoaning the 12 weddings he had been to in the past year and a half, including 3 that he was in. Including the $10k of credit card debt that he had as a result.

I think I recognize what the problem is, here, and it’s not necessarily the song and dance surrounding weddings these days.

188 Lidane  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:27:33am
189 Lawrence Schmerel  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:28:57am

“What will it take to change our way?”

I have absolutely no optimism about this. Zero. Those who can rise above the desire to serve their immediate needs as quickly and as efficiently as possible, which the production of CO2 serves well, are a tiny minority. Only the concerted effort of every nation on Earth can make people reduce their production of CO2 enough to matter. I can’t imagine anything bringing about that kind of international cooperation except for destruction on an unimaginable scale. Anything less will be tolerated and rationalized.

190 darthstar  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:29:02am

re: #187 klys

That cracks me up.

Reading articles on CNN this morning, they have one about the guy who was bemoaning the 12 weddings he had been to in the past year and a half, including 3 that he was in. Including the $10k of credit card debt that he had as a result.

I think I recognize what the problem is, here, and it’s not necessarily the song and dance surrounding weddings these days.

Dude needs to learn how to say ‘No.’

191 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:29:18am

Nullification: How States Are Making It a Felony to Enforce Federal Gun Laws

The roots of guns law nullification trace back nearly a decade.

In 2004, Montana gun rights activist Gary Marbut drafted a bill stating that any guns manufactured and retained in Montana are not part of interstate commerce, and thus are exempt from federal regulation. The bill failed twice, but it became law in 2009 after Republicans took control of the statehouse. By Marbut’s count, at least eight states soon enacted “clones” of the Montana law. (Those laws don’t go quite as far as the more recent nullification legislation. For instance, most of them don’t make it a crime to enforce federal law.)

The federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms responded to the earlier laws with letters to local firearms dealers explaining that federal laws and regulations “continue to apply.”

I’d forgotten about Montana’s law —that took advantage of the commerce clause.

192 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:29:21am

The Washington Redskins say they will never change their team name.

OK but they can change their mascot.

193 Bulworth  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:29:31am

re: #188 Lidane

Cover-Up!! Impeach!!

194 GeneJockey  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:29:43am

re: #180 Lidane

Combine it with a blow-up sex doll, and you’ve got the perfect Wingnut Weekend!
//

195 darthstar  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:30:41am

re: #194 GeneJockey

Combine it with a blow-up sex doll, and you’ve got the perfect Wingnut Weekend!
//

I’m sure the people who would buy this are shooting their loads while shooting their load.

196 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:31:57am

re: #184 Feline Fearless Leader

Hmm… Tabbouleh.

I might try an experimental variation on that. See if I can substitute buckwheat for the bulgar, and perhaps add some basil in with the parsley for some flavor variation.

You know, one of the greatest inventions in the world is Instant Tabuli —which really isn’t instant, but a hell-of-a-lot easier than making it from scratch! I, of course, add garlic.

197 A Mom Anon  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:32:01am

re: #180 Lidane

Yes because making it have green skin is soooo much better. Some days I swear if I roll my eyes at stupid shit one more time they’ll get stuck.

And people think I’m weird when I tell them my best friend is my awesome doggie, Abby.

198 GeneJockey  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:32:32am

re: #195 darthstar

I’m sure the people who would buy this are shooting their loads while shooting their load.

Adult Diapers: Not just for incontinence anymore!

//

199 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:32:54am

re: #180 Lidane

&^%*(!!!!!!!!!grr!!!!!*spit8@#$%^!!!!!

200 GeneJockey  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:33:28am

re: #196 FemNaziBitch

I, of course, add garlic.

As any sentient being would.

201 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:34:21am

re: #196 FemNaziBitch

You know, one of the greatest inventions in the world is Instant Tabuli —which really isn’t instant, but a hell-of-a-lot easier than making it from scratch! I, of course, add garlic.

heh. Today’s piece of individual culinary discovery. When there is a need, a solution is found.

en.wikipedia.org

202 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:35:32am

re: #201 Feline Fearless Leader

heh. Today’s piece of individual culinary discovery. When there is a need, a solution is found.

en.wikipedia.org

I HAVE some of this in the pantry and totally forgot about it. A restaurant near us makes it and it is UMMMMMM! Now, I have to find the recipe. White Chocolate Grill, I think is the name of the restaurant, it’s a chain.

203 prairiefire  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:36:47am

re: #184 Feline Fearless Leader

Hmm… Tabbouleh.

I might try an experimental variation on that. See if I can substitute buckwheat for the bulgar, and perhaps add some basil in with the parsley for some flavor variation.

Make sure it doesn’t turn into a pesto!

204 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:36:50am
205 klys  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:36:55am

re: #201 Feline Fearless Leader

heh. Today’s piece of individual culinary discovery. When there is a need, a solution is found.

en.wikipedia.org

That could be a lot of fun for all sorts of pasta salads. Hmmm.

206 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:38:43am

re: #202 FemNaziBitch

I HAVE some of this in the pantry and totally forgot about it. A restaurant near us makes it and it is UMMMMMM! Now, I have to find the recipe.

I know it by heart!

1 c. Israeli couscous
1 small onion, chopped
1 garlic clove, smashed
1 Tbsp. olive oil
1.5 c. chicken broth or water with a dissolved bullion cube.

In small saucepan, heat the olive oil, garlic and onion. Add the couscous and stir until browned.

Add the water/broth and bring to a boil. Cover and simmer until all the liquid is absorbed.

207 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:38:53am

re: #204 FemNaziBitch

Here is the recipe

never mind, wrong recipe

208 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:39:22am

re: #206 Vicious Babushka

I know it by heart!

1 c. Israeli couscous
1 small onion, chopped
1 garlic clove, smashed
1 Tbsp. olive oil
1.5 c. chicken broth or water with a dissolved bullion cube.

In small saucepan, heat the olive oil, garlic and onion. Add the couscous and stir until browned.

Add the water/broth and bring to a boil. Cover and simmer until all the liquid is absorbed.

Baba, you are awesome!

209 klys  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:39:32am

re: #207 FemNaziBitch

never mind, wrong recipe

Might not be the one you were looking for but definitely a lot of tasty looking things there anyway. :)

210 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:40:36am
211 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:40:52am
212 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:44:22am

re: #211 FemNaziBitch

This looks good too!

I got addicted to this stuff when I lived in Israel years ago. I also like the orzo (rice-shaped) and the spaetzle (farfel).

213 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:45:55am

I wish we could have a “Food” category for the pages. (Hoping the Pages Genie is listening)

214 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:46:24am

re: #204 FemNaziBitch

Here is the recipe

First recipe there used roasted hazelnuts. Bookmarked!

When I used roasted hazelnuts in a recipe I always roast 2-3x as many as I need because I know that I will start scarfing the nuts down before they’ve totally cooled. :)~~

215 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:46:26am

re: #213 Vicious Babushka

I wish we could have a “Food” category for the pages. (Hoping the Pages Genie is listening)

WE used to have a cookbook

216 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:47:41am

re: #215 FemNaziBitch

WE used to have a cookbook

We had two LGF cookbooks, the last one was printed in 2010. Reine used to edit them.

217 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:47:43am

US military units put on alert as security situation deteriorates in Libyan capital

The U.S. military has alerted two elite military units in Europe to be on standby if needed to respond to a deteriorating security situation in Tripoli, Fox News has learned.

In recent days both the U.S. embassy and British embassy in Libya have removed non-essential staff from their embassies.

A specialized Marine unit based in Moron, Spain, is in the process of being repositioned closer to Libya; and in Stuttgart, Germany, a special operations force assigned to AFRICOM has been placed on heightened alert.
Neither team has moved yet.

“We are repositioning assets in the region that could respond if necessary,” a senior military official told Fox News Friday. “If the situation deteriorates (in Tripoli) we would be positioned to respond.”

The positioning comes after a series of disturbing security developments. Protests broke out Sunday in the capital. The U.S., Britain and France — the coalition that overthrew Muammar Qaddafi — issued a joint warning Wednesday to the militias to observe the rule of law, amid concerns about rising tensions between armed rival factions. In Benghazi, there were two explosions at police stations.

218 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:48:02am

re: #211 FemNaziBitch

This looks good too!

Any cooking site referring to itself as “epicurious” wins by default.

219 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:51:11am

The N.L.R.B.’s Contested Poster

The subject of the latest outrageous ruling by the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit is an 11-by-17-inch poster. The National Labor Relations Board requires nearly six million private employers to display the poster, which informs employees of their right to join or form a union or to take action together to improve their working conditions.

220 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:55:17am

Kerry talking about Benghazi

221 ProTARDISLiberal  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:57:27am

re: #217 NJDhockeyfan

Good, someone is stepping to the plate to challenge the militias.

222 Charles Johnson  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:58:50am

re: #213 Vicious Babushka

I wish we could have a “Food” category for the pages. (Hoping the Pages Genie is listening)

Your wish is the Pages Genie’s command.

223 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:59:16am

re: #222 Charles Johnson

Your wish is the Pages Genie’s command.

YAYY!

224 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 11:00:08am

Baba is a goddess!

225 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 11:00:19am

re: #204 FemNaziBitch

Here is the recipe

Sounds delicious. I’m trying to eat more salads and veggies since I’m on a diet and better exercise routine.

226 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 11:00:44am

Wow, I had no idea that education conditions had changed so much in Afghanistan. Now 40% of students are girls.

227 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 11:01:46am

When we were dating, hubby lost 30 lbs just because he learned about all these meatless “side” dishes he never knew existed. He found himself filling-up on the side dishes and eating less meat and carbs (bread, potatoes, rice).

228 Tigger2  Fri, May 10, 2013 11:03:36am

re: #180 Lidane

This should really help them out with the women NRA members or even women in general.

229 GeneJockey  Fri, May 10, 2013 11:06:36am

re: #228 Tigger2

All part of the new outreach to women and minorities!

230 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 11:07:55am

re: #229 GeneJockey

All part of the new outreach to women and minorities!

Yet, they say their membership is up.

Scary shit

231 lawhawk  Fri, May 10, 2013 11:08:36am

re: #185 darthstar

Image: 62630_10151913531729966_4208253_n.jpg

Heh. I just got back from perusing the gear at B&H in NYC - a quick run to check out tripods (my current one is showing its age). It’s an electronics gear wonderland, and I could have spent the rest of the day (well up to 2pm since they close early on Friday for Shabbat) there.

Got a couple of ideas for replacement gear. Have to weigh the options - literally. My current one is very lightweight, but the leg locks are prone to cracking. The prospective ones may weigh a little more, but one is more compact, and they are more sturdy or allow the legs to be used as a monopod.

232 Tigger2  Fri, May 10, 2013 11:08:56am

re: #230 FemNaziBitch

Yet, they say their membership is up.

Scary shit

I for one don’t believe much of anything they say.

They have been caught lying so many times.

233 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 11:09:33am

re: #227 FemNaziBitch

When we were dating, hubby lost 30 lbs just because he learned about all these meatless “side” dishes he never knew existed. He found himself filling-up on the side dishes and eating less meat and carbs (bread, potatoes, rice).

Meat and carbs can really sneak up on you. One thing I am trying to do to get more protein is to have fish more often. Also need to find some portabella mushrooms sometime too. The great thing about this new workout though is I feel my endurance increasing daily. I may never be anything close to a marathon runner but if I can at least become a decent threat on the base paths in softball :).

234 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 11:10:37am

re: #180 Lidane

Ah that’s how they do outreach I see. Somehow, I doubt they have a male model.

235 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 10, 2013 11:11:09am

re: #231 lawhawk

Heh. I just got back from perusing the gear at B&H in NYC - a quick run to check out tripods (my current one is showing its age). It’s an electronics gear wonderland, and I could have spent the rest of the day (well up to 2pm since they close early on Friday for Shabbat) there.

Got a couple of ideas for replacement gear. Have to weigh the options - literally. My current one is very lightweight, but the leg locks are prone to cracking. The prospective ones may weigh a little more, but one is more compact, and they are more sturdy or allow the legs to be used as a monopod.

My daughter works at B&H! (Not on the sales floor, she is a senior account manager, handles large corporate accounts)

236 Bulworth  Fri, May 10, 2013 11:11:54am

re: #233 HappyWarrior

Happy to say I’m in a pretty good workout groove. Workout with trainer about once a week. Doing some weights on my own and burning up the eliptical in between.

237 GeneJockey  Fri, May 10, 2013 11:13:42am

re: #236 Bulworth

I personally have enough good intentions to pave an 8-lane freeway to Hell.

238 Bulworth  Fri, May 10, 2013 11:14:06am

re: #236 Bulworth

The eating/diet continues to be a challenge, although I’ve much improved from the days when Thursday Night=Take Out, Friday Night=Take Out and Saturday Night=Takeout.

239 Mike Lamb  Fri, May 10, 2013 11:14:13am

re: #174 Charles Johnson

Good lord. These people are such goddamned idiots, sometimes it honestly blows my mind.

Received through our contact form this morning - I knew it was a wingnut as soon as soon as I saw the email “address”.

The smiley face is always nice at the end of a stupid hate mail.

Apparently they don’t realize that most normal people review, edit, etc. before making public statements as opposed to wingnut stream of derp-ciousness…

240 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 11:15:43am

re: #236 Bulworth

Happy to say I’m in a pretty good workout groove. Workout with trainer about once a week. Doing some weights on my own and burning up the eliptical in between.

cool deal. I probably get more time at the gym than most since I am unemployed. I think I just needed to push myself to do this. My stubbornness which can be a vice in other stuff is proving to be a huge virtue in my working out. Can’t wait for the pool to open too since I’m going to be doing laps.

241 Lidane  Fri, May 10, 2013 11:16:20am
242 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 11:17:46am

So my kid was skyping with a friend who is in China right now —then they decided to switch to a “hangout” ?????

Is this hangout thing something new, or am I just that old?

243 Lidane  Fri, May 10, 2013 11:19:20am

re: #242 FemNaziBitch

So my kid was skyping with a friend who is in China right now —then they decided to switch to a “hangout” ?????

Is this hangout thing something new, or am I just that old?

It’s a Google thing:

google.com

244 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 11:21:13am

re: #243 Lidane

It’s a Google thing:

google.com

ah!

245 GeneJockey  Fri, May 10, 2013 11:22:25am

re: #239 Mike Lamb

Apparently they don’t realize that most normal people review, edit, etc. before making public statements as opposed to wingnut stream of derp-ciousness…

Or that there’s not really a prize for being the first to ring a bell and shout “TERRORISM!”

This is something that’s often lost in gloating over the ‘Please proceed, Governor’ moment - what is the big hairy deal about using the word ‘terrorism’? It’s one of those ‘everybody knows’ things on the Right, like that Obama wasn’t vetted, or that he can’t talk without a teleprompter, or he never hugged any soldiers - the belief that Obama won’t say ‘terrorism’ or ‘act of terror’. This belief, and the blind acceptance of Wingnut ‘truths’ led Romney to make a fool of himself on national TV.

246 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 11:22:35am

US orders website to remove 3D-printed handgun blueprints

from the Financial Times, I don’t know if everyone can access it. They have a 10 free articles a month registration thing.

247 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 11:23:35am

We’ve come a long way from AOL Instant Messager.

248 klys  Fri, May 10, 2013 11:25:40am

re: #243 Lidane

It’s a Google thing:

google.com

I used it when practicing for my defense, since Skype wants you to pay to enable screen sharing. I could do it for free there, so I sat at my computer and gave practice runthroughs of my talk to anyone I could corral into listening to it for an hour - sharing my screen with them so they could see the slideshow while listening.

Much better than doing it for the cats 8 times.


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