Michele Bachmann (R-Mars): 9/11 and Benghazi Were God’s Judgment

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On Wednesday, Religious Right activists and members of Congress gathered together for a prayer event held in Statuary Hall at the US Capitol called “Washington: A Man of Prayer.”

Among the speakers was Rep. Michele Bachmann, who used the opportunity to promote the 9/11 prayer event being organized by Birther-king Joseph Farah, saying that “it is no secret that our nation may very well be experiencing the hand of judgment” and declaring that both the original 9/11 attack and the attack in Benghazi on 9/11 of last year were God’s judgment.

As such, the only recourse, Bachmann said, is to humble ourselves before God and cry out in repentance for this nation.

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134 comments
1 Political Atheist  Fri, May 10, 2013 1:37:33pm

I thought God would be a bit more flood and earthquake, fire and brimstone rather than suicidal zealot. Care to comment Michelle?

2 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, May 10, 2013 1:46:24pm

The perpetrators of those two acts of violence thought the same thing, Rep. Bachmann.

3 OLDHEAD  Fri, May 10, 2013 2:00:39pm

She’d be selling smallpox blankets to the Indians in another life and saying that was Gods judgement. Cretinous pond slime.

4 shecky  Fri, May 10, 2013 2:16:51pm

God himself is, in fact, a Muslim terrorist.

5 Romantic Heretic  Fri, May 10, 2013 2:21:12pm

re: #1 Political Atheist

That was my thought. If God, Allah to Zeus, take your pick, wanted to punish a nation I think it would be more, um, spectacular than that.

Ya know, rains of frogs, first born sons dying, locusts. I mean He’s done it before.

6 shaggles  Fri, May 10, 2013 2:25:23pm

MY judgement is that Ms Bachmann is an idiot and kind of a jerk.

7 Godisdeadandburied  Fri, May 10, 2013 2:53:50pm

How many conservatives does that make that have now said that God was punishing an evil America with the 9/11 attacks? With Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Dinesh D’Souza, Mike Savage, and now Bachman, that makes it 5 and counting.

8 Decatur Deb  Fri, May 10, 2013 2:57:29pm

Doesn’t that make rebuilding the WTC tower sort of blasphemous?

9 Dr Lizardo  Fri, May 10, 2013 4:16:28pm

re: #5 Romantic Heretic

That was my thought. If God, Allah to Zeus, take your pick, wanted to punish a nation I think it would be more, um, spectacular than that.

Ya know, rains of frogs, first born sons dying, locusts. I mean He’s done it before.

If God, from Allah to Zeus, wanted to punish a nation I would think it’d look a helluva lot like the movie “2012”.

But that’s just me.

10 sizzzzlerz  Fri, May 10, 2013 4:43:23pm
How many conservatives does that make that have now said that God was punishing an evil America with the 9/11 attacks

Well, lets find out! [gets out slide rule, mumbles equations], divide by the exponential of .911, carry the one, and voila!

The final answer is: all of them.

11 aagcobb  Fri, May 10, 2013 4:53:13pm

No wonder they hate the President so much; he killed a servant of God, Osama bin Laden, who was only doing God’s will!/

12 RealityBasedSteve  Fri, May 10, 2013 5:43:04pm

Please Michele, please run for president the next election. God really wants you to run, the last time was just a test, but he’s really serious this time. The republican party and the tea party need and deserve someone like you running for president.

Think I over did it?

RBS

13 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:04:24pm

Please tell me that her opponent is going to run with this and the ethics charges she has in the next election. This woman is legit nutso.

14 BigPapa  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:12:57am

I think god put Michelle Bachmann here to entertain us. But satan got her elected to the Intelligence Committee.

15 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:13:37am

It is not the idios who belive this sort of hands-on theology. It is the hardened cynics behind the scenes to manipulate the “true believers” into getting them to promote their private agendas: the Koch Brothers, the Romney/Ryans, the Karl Roves, etc.

16 Iwouldprefernotto  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:15:21am

I wish Bachmann would act “humble.”

17 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:16:27am

re: #16 Iwouldprefernotto

I wish Bachmann would act “humble.”

She’s too much of a Prima DERPA for that.

18 BigPapa  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:17:06am

So many ways to go with this: maybe Michelle Bachmann is god’s punishment.

19 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:21:12am

re: #18 BigPapa

So many ways to go with this: maybe Michelle Bachmann is god’s punishment.

She is the GOP’s punishment for letting conservative fundamentalists run unchecked in the party.

20 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:21:31am

re: #17 Dark_Falcon

You see my response?

21 GeneJockey  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:22:50am

Oh, hell. I already wrote an excellent rant in response to Bachmann’s nonsense two threads ago. I’m not doing it again!

22 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:24:00am

The fact that she was considered - even for the briefest period - a serious contender for the nomination, during the 2012 campaign, speaks volumies about the state of the current GOP.

23 GeneJockey  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:27:26am

re: #22 Sol Berdinowitz

And sadly, what it says is that they wanted her, because they think like her, but they didn’t think she could get elected. It’s not that they saw through her stupidity and disavowed it.

24 Mattand  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:33:31am

re: #22 Sol Berdinowitz

This.

re: #23 GeneJockey

As well as this.

25 Varek Raith  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:35:03am

en.wikipedia.org
These are awesome!
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26 BigPapa  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:35:31am

Destined to be a Bachmann Classic:

Michele Bachmann embarrasses herself during House Intelligence Committee hearing [VIDEO]

27 Eclectic Cyborg  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:36:29am

re: #26 BigPapa

Destined to be a Bachmann Classic:

Michele Bachmann embarrasses herself during House Intelligence Committee hearing [VIDEO]

I’d rather have a Bachmann-Turner-Overdrive classic…

…Or a Bach classic.

28 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:37:36am

She plays perfectly to the base, but everyone outside the Bubble sees her as a complete airhead. They still don’t understand the reason for that to this day.

29 Varek Raith  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:39:48am
9/11 and Benghazi Were God’s Judgment

Then the course is clear.
Impeach God.

30 GeneJockey  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:40:31am

re: #28 Sol Berdinowitz

A lot of wingnuts think Sarah Palin is Kryptonite for Democrats, too. That’s even more impressively clueless.

31 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:41:47am

re: #28 Sol Berdinowitz

She plays perfectly to the base, but everyone outside the Bubble sees her as a complete airhead. They still don’t understand the reason for that to this day.

You can be conservative and not think Bachmann is presidential timber, but to do think those thoughts you need to actualy read stuff not written by conservatives.

Hence your bubble.

32 GeneJockey  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:42:46am

re: #29 Varek Raith

Then the course is clear.
Impeach God.

What did God know, and when did He know it?

Why did God leave those 4 Americans to die, and when did he issue the “Stand Down” order to Chuck Norris and Lee Marvin? (Yes, I know - Lee Marvin’s been dead for 26 years, but this is God we’re talking about)

33 BigPapa  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:47:05am

re: #31 Dark_Falcon

You can be conservative and not think Bachmann is presidential timber, but to do think those thoughts you need to actualy read stuff not written by conservatives.

Hence your bubble.

Take away Huma Abedin and the pool is pretty thin.

34 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:47:51am

re: #31 Dark_Falcon

You can be conservative and not think Bachmann is presidential timber, but to do think those thoughts you need to actualy read stuff not written by conservatives.

Hence your bubble.

Religious fundamentalism, antivax, full TP. That is the Bubble that is now a malignant tumor within the GOP.

35 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:50:10am

The bubble effect made its first famous appearance 1972, via Pauline Kael of the New York Times. While bubble effect is seen somewhat more on the right these days, it first showed up with a liberal lament: “I can’t believe Nixon won! No one I know voted for him.”

One gets that feeling that if Michelle Bachmann were to run for president, many wingnuts would have similar feelings when she lost. As for me, I said back in 2011 that I could never vote for her for president, and that remains my position.

36 wrenchwench  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:50:36am
As such, the only recourse, Bachmann said, is to humble ourselves before God and cry out in repentance for this nation.

This nation should humble itself before the world and cry out in repentance for Michele Bachmann.

37 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:52:55am

re: #34 Sol Berdinowitz

Religious fundamentalism, antivax, full TP. That is the Bubble that is now a malignant tumor within the GOP.

Objection: Anti-vaxxers are not a major force of either major party, though they exist on both the left and right. Neither the Democrats nor the Republicans should be depicted as the party of anti-vaxxers.

38 bratwurst  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:53:43am

Rand Paul’s new fundraising appeal:

Obama is working with ‘anti-American globalists plotting against our Constitution!

39 Eclectic Cyborg  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:54:55am

re: #38 bratwurst

Rand Paul’s new fundraising appeal:

Seems like recycled Agenda 21 crap.

40 darthstar  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:56:04am

re: #35 Dark_Falcon

As for me, I said back in 2011 that I could never vote for her for president, and that remains my position.

If she won three primaries in a row you’d be rationalizing away her crazy and you know it. It’s your party and it’s okay. It doesn’t make me think less of you.

41 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:58:50am

re: #37 Dark_Falcon

Objection: Anti-vaxxers are not a major force of either major party, though they exist on both the left and right. Neither the Democrats nor the Republicans should be depicted as the party of anti-vaxxers.

Fundamentalist GOP voters are not just antivax because they refuse to accept the science on vaccinations, they are against the ideology of the government telling people what to do for their own good.

42 darthstar  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:59:28am

Oh, crap…I accidentally flipped by MSNBC while they’re covering the Jodi Arias trial. Camera panning across a gallery of bawling women. Look, she killed someone. In a few years, your new neighbors in another town won’t even associate her with you. You’ll rebuild your lives and reputations.

43 Varek Raith  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:59:53am
Youtube Video
44 BigPapa  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:01:29am

The real bubble is thinking Bachmann represents some external element of the GOP and there’s a large contingent of GOP who don’t buy into at least some of her BS.

Bachmann is the GOP, not some kooky minor sect of it.

45 Targetpractice  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:01:37am

I don’t know whether to facepalm over this statement of utter insanity…or to cringe in fear that such insanity is an elected official who was once considered a potential candidate for the presidency.

46 BigPapa  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:04:17am

re: #45 Targetpractice

I don’t know whether to facepalm over this statement of utter insanity…or to cringe in fear that such insanity is an elected official who was once considered a potential candidate for the presidency.

Yes.

47 FemNaziBitch  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:04:26am

I can’t watch the video.

Maxine is so much better!

How is it today?

48 bratwurst  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:05:49am

re: #44 BigPapa

The real bubble is thinking Bachmann represents some external element of the GOP and there’s a large contingent of GOP who don’t buy into at least some of her BS.

Bachmann is the GOP, not some kooky minor sect of it.

George Will, as much of an establishment Republican as is walking the earth in 2013, called her “an authentic representative of the Republican base”.

49 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:06:39am

re: #40 darthstar

If she won three primaries in a row you’d be rationalizing away her crazy and you know it. It’s your party and it’s okay. It doesn’t make me think less of you.

No, I wouldn’t. If it had been her versus Obama I’d have voted for Obama. I might decline to vote if she faced Hillary Clinton, but I will not vote for Michele Bachmann for any office with authority. Period.

50 FemNaziBitch  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:07:49am

After she made it clear that Marcus would really be the in charge, I thought I would vomit.

51 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:07:54am

re: #49 Dark_Falcon

No, I wouldn’t. If it had been her versus Obama I’d have voted for Obama. I might decline to vote if she faced Hillary Clinton, but I will not vote for Michele Bachmann for any office with authority. Period.

I would have a hard time voting for Hillary, I really hope that the Democrats can come up with a viable candidate that is not Hilary Clinton.

52 wrenchwench  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:09:07am

There are a variety of downsides to Hillary Clinton. I can’t see them when she’s standing next to a Republican.

53 stabby  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:10:19am

re: #30 GeneJockey

A lot of wingnuts think Sarah Palin is Kryptonite for Democrats, too. That’s even more impressively clueless.

I’ve had that thrown at me so many times. So many morons think that Palin would win big if she ran…

I suspect their thought processes was like this guy:
trenchescomic.com

That’s right, his job was making video game assets. Instead he made a 3D model of Sarah Palin, probably a sexy one…

54 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:10:46am

re: #41 Sol Berdinowitz

Fundamentalist GOP voters are not just antivax because they refuse to accept the science on vaccinations, they are against the ideology of the government telling people what to do for their own good.

But the majority of the Republican party does accept the efficacy of vaccines, even many fundies do (notably including the Duggars, who are seriously wacked fundies, but all of their kids are vaccinated). Anti-vaxxers don’t rule the GOP, hence the objection. In both parties, they represent a conspiracist fringe whose real issue is fear of government and large corporate entities.

55 FemNaziBitch  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:11:47am

bbiab

56 stabby  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:11:56am

re: #48 bratwurst

George Will, as much of an establishment Republican as is walking the earth in 2013, called her “an authentic representative of the Republican base”.

Once you’ve had that insight, it’s time to leave the Republican party.

57 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:12:42am
(R-Mars)

Entirely too close. How about (R-Andromeda Galaxy)?

58 Political Atheist  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:13:14am

re: #5 Romantic Heretic

That was my thought. If God, Allah to Zeus, take your pick, wanted to punish a nation I think it would be more, um, spectacular than that.

Ya know, rains of frogs, first born sons dying, locusts. I mean He’s done it before.

At risk of repetition from way past posts, all who claim to speak for God are deluded or liars. Our wounds are of our own making.

59 Iwouldprefernotto  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:13:39am

re: #54 Dark_Falcon

But the majority of the Republican party does accept the efficacy of vaccines, even many fundies do (notably including the Duggars, who are seriously wacked fundies, but all of their kids are vaccinated). Anti-vaxxers don’t rule the GOP, hence the objection. In both parties, they represent a conspiracist fringe whose real issue is fear of government and large corporate entities.

So they agree with the science behind vaccines but deny the science behind evolution, climate science, the fact that abstinence only sex ed doesn’t work. 1 out of 4 is not that bad.

60 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:13:45am

re: #37 Dark_Falcon

Now they are beating protesters. Fuck the MB!

Also another bombing in the Turkish Town.

Also, this is getting ugly with Libya and the MB in another way:

The accusation that MB-supporting people in Libya are not loyal to the country, but to Cairo and Morsi/Mohammed Badie. Essentially, this is a repeat of the Anti-Semitic trope of Jews not being loyal to a nation, but to Israel/Jewish Community/What Have you.

If MB loses, you could see massive persecution of anybody MB related.

61 Varek Raith  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:14:35am

re: #5 Romantic Heretic

That was my thought. If God, Allah to Zeus, take your pick, wanted to punish a nation I think it would be more, um, spectacular than that.

Ya know, rains of frogs, first born sons dying, locusts. I mean He’s done it before.

Too subtle.
I’d have the Cubs win a World Series or two.

62 Eclectic Cyborg  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:14:39am

Bachmann/Arpaio 2016 - The GOP dream ticket

63 Political Atheist  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:15:02am

re: #57 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Entirely too close. How about (R-Andromeda Galaxy)?

Made of “Doesn’t Matter” particles. Kind of a cousin to anti matter particles and a dark lack of energy.

64 Eclectic Cyborg  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:15:41am

re: #57 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Entirely too close. How about (R-Andromeda Galaxy)?

Still too close.

65 Varek Raith  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:16:17am

(R) Parallel Universe Z.

66 Eclectic Cyborg  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:16:43am

I was thinking at breakfast this morning that all this GOP posturing for 2016 seems like a waste of resources and more “show than go” as it were.

I mean that election is OVER THREE YEARS AWAY!! Maybe we could, like, you know focus on the issues of 2013 and save all the Presidential crap for a year or so?

One thing I miss about Canada. There are no fixed elections. You never know when they are coming so you can’t be in permanent campaign mode like in the U.S. Also, a Canadian election from announcement to voting takes place in a few MONTHS. It’s a not years long ordeal like in America.

67 Eclectic Cyborg  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:17:46am

re: #65 Varek Raith

(R) Parallel Universe Z.

Suddenly I’m thinking of a Star Trek Mirror Universe scenario where Bachmann is one of the most intelligent, articulate people in the country and Joe Arpaio is a Gandhi like pacifist.

68 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:19:07am

Also, it appears the Alevi Community in Turkey is attacking Refugees, and may have played a part in the bombing.

The Syrian Civil War may be about to get even nastier.

69 kerFuFFler  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:19:32am

re: #2 The Ghost of a Flea

The perpetrators of those two acts of violence thought the same thing, Rep. Bachmann.

Maybe she is a secret Muslim. Her policy goals seem consistent with Sharia after all…

70 Eclectic Cyborg  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:19:38am

re: #68 ProTARDISLiberal

Also, it appears the Alevi Community in Turkey is attacking Refugees, and may have played a part in the bombing.

The Syrian Civil War may be about to get even nastier.

At what point do we consider use of force against Assad, if at all?

71 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:22:01am

re: #70 Eclectic Cyborg

Turkey should decide that, as part of NATO.

If the Turkish Alevis are found to be any way involved, this could end up having a horrific backlash.

Think “Operation Storm” bad.

72 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:22:23am
73 kerFuFFler  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:22:26am

re: #70 Eclectic Cyborg

At what point do we consider use of force against Assad, if at all?

Assad is horrible, but I fear whatever takes power there next will be even worse. What do you do?

74 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:23:33am

re: #70 Eclectic Cyborg

I would say we should be more worried about keeping the Libyan Government up, and be ready to help ASAP. The Troika (US, UK, and France) need to make clear to Libya we are there to assist if needed.

75 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:24:20am

re: #73 kerFuFFler

Revive Greater Syria.

Essentially, Syria+Jordan+Lebanon+Iraq.

76 Eclectic Cyborg  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:25:45am

Oy,

A right wing friend of mine said if Romney had been President on 9/11/12, he would have responded by “levelling Libya to the ground”.

Never mind September 11 was BEFORE the election, my friend just didn’t seem to understand why taking such an approach would have been a really, REALLY bad idea. He seemed to be of the opinion that there would be virtually no backlash from such a decision whatsoever.

77 Charles Johnson  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:26:42am

re: #44 BigPapa

The real bubble is thinking Bachmann represents some external element of the GOP and there’s a large contingent of GOP who don’t buy into at least some of her BS.

Bachmann is the GOP, not some kooky minor sect of it.

Absolutely right. This is the face of the Republican Party. There’s no one sane left in the room.

78 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:27:38am

re: #76 Eclectic Cyborg

I would have kicked his ass to the curb.

I have grown to love the Libyans. They have a will of steel.

79 stabby  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:31:17am

re: #75 ProTARDISLiberal

Worst. Idea. Ever.

80 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:31:40am

re: #71 ProTARDISLiberal

Turkey should decide that, as part of NATO.

If the Turkish Alevis are found to be any way involved, this could end up having a horrific backlash.

Think “Operation Storm” bad.

If you mean Croatia’s retaking of the Krajina, that actually wasn’t so bad. Yes most Serbs fled the area, but given Serbian chauvinism and inability to tolerate the presence of others of that time, Serbian flight from areas their military had been expelled from was inevitable.

It is also worth noting that Bosnia’s Muslims supported the Croat offensive, and 3000 Bosnian soldiers took part in it. Details here.

81 BigPapa  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:32:41am

re: #76 Eclectic Cyborg

Oy,

A right wing friend of mine said if Romney had been President on 9/11/12, he would have responded by “levelling Libya to the ground”.

This is the kind of thinking we’re supposed to be evolving from, not adhering to.

In the aftermath of the Boston Bombings multitudes of ramblings espousing torture and pitchfork populist rage flew all over Facebook.

Didn’t make me feel any better as a society.

82 Randall Gross  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:32:55am

This is a pretty historic genocide ruling for Guatemala,

cnn.com

Now the question is what happens next, it certainly wouldn’t be a good thing for the country to spiral into another civil war.

83 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:33:37am

re: #79 stabby

Worst. Idea. Ever.

I don’t agree with it either. But please don’t be nasty to PLL like that.

84 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:33:46am

re: #80 Dark_Falcon

I’m trying to think of a Mass Cleansing incident.

I suppose saying the Armenian Genocide would be more reasonable.

re: #79 stabby

I like larger regional states that are less easily pushed around. I think I have mentioned Greater Syria before, usually as a Hashemite Constitutional Monarchy.

85 stabby  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:34:03am

re: #77 Charles Johnson

She’s not quite as mean as Ann Coulter, but she’s stupid enough to be scary. I mean what I think makes a despot like Chavez is being far too fucking stupid to know what freedom or any other institution is good for.

86 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:34:17am

The USA enjoyed a brief moment in the sun when we were the only military/economic/cultural superpower in the world. We experienced a period of unparallelled prosperity and influence.

But that has already peaked, other powers are rising to challenge us. We cannot act like we are the only dawg in the pack.

87 Iwouldprefernotto  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:37:43am

re: #76 Eclectic Cyborg

Oy,

A right wing friend of mine said if Romney had been President on 9/11/12, he would have responded by “levelling Libya to the ground”.

Never mind September 11 was BEFORE the election, my friend just didn’t seem to understand why taking such an approach would have been a really, REALLY bad idea. He seemed to be of the opinion that there would be virtually no backlash from such a decision whatsoever.

In Republican land there are no backlashes ever.

88 stabby  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:37:44am

re: #86 Sol Berdinowitz

Meh, we had economic dominance because Europe had bombed itself into the stone age, and Asia wasn’t all that yet.

89 Romantic Heretic  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:38:48am

re: #18 BigPapa

So many ways to go with this: maybe Michelle Bachmann is god’s punishment.

God is not that cruel.

90 stabby  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:39:10am

Actually what’s scary about Bauchmann is that she’s the typical result of home scooling and fake bibble instead of books college.

91 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:43:12am

re: #84 ProTARDISLiberal

I’m trying to think of a Mass Cleansing incident.

I suppose saying the Armenian Genocide would be more reasonable.

re: #79 stabby

I like larger regional states that are less easily pushed around. I think I have mentioned Greater Syria before, usually as a Hashemite Constitutional Monarchy.

It would indeed be more reasonable. The Croats weren’t aiming for genocide; their objection was the expulsion of Serbian military forces from their territory and the 4-day duration of the operation is a proof of that. Operation Storm was a short blitzkrieg-style offensive intended to rout an enemy army out of an area, not to kill the area’s civilians. Civilian deaths occurred, but as a byproduct of the offensive, not as its object.

As an aside, it is worth noting that Israel Military Industries (IMI) had given Croatia a production license for their famed Uzi and Mini-Uzi, and Operation Storm was the license built Uzis first large scale use.

92 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:43:13am

re: #90 stabby

Actually what’s scary about Bauchmann is that she’s the typical result of home scooling and fake bibble instead of books college.

Why do conservatives hate college?

93 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:44:46am

re: #76 Eclectic Cyborg

Oy,

A right wing friend of mine said if Romney had been President on 9/11/12, he would have responded by “levelling Libya to the ground”.

Never mind September 11 was BEFORE the election, my friend just didn’t seem to understand why taking such an approach would have been a really, REALLY bad idea. He seemed to be of the opinion that there would be virtually no backlash from such a decision whatsoever.

I disagree. Mitt Romney isn’t that stupid or ham-handed. But his refusal to be so would have enraged many wingnuts.

Stupid is as stupid does.

94 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:49:26am

re: #93 Dark_Falcon

I disagree. Mitt Romney isn’t that stupid or ham-handed. But his refusal to be so would have enraged many wingnuts.

Stupid is as stupid does.

It would have been expected of him in any case.

95 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:49:34am

Seeing a number of my pakistani friends gushing about Imran Khan regarding the elections in Pakistan.

Frankly, looking up his history and politics, I wasn’t impressed.

96 stabby  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:53:15am

re: #93 Dark_Falcon

I disagree. Mitt Romney isn’t that stupid or ham-handed. But his refusal to be so would have enraged many wingnuts.

Stupid is as stupid does.

A presidential candidate who went to the NAACP in order to tell them to their faces that they’re scroungers for wanting health care for the working poor is scum below scum, he is limitlessly stupid and ham handed, he is Donald Trump with a better mask.

97 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:53:20am

re: #94 Sol Berdinowitz

It would have been expected of him in any case.

Expected, yes, because of the bubble.

BBL

98 kerFuFFler  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:57:56am

re: #96 stabby

…he is Donald Trump with a better mask.

Well, maybe better hair, but that is about it.

That reminds me, back when Trump was positioning himself for a possible run I read this farcical suggestion for a campaign slogan for him:
We Shall Overcomb!

99 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:58:56am

re: #95 ProTARDISLiberal

Is my assessment wrong?

100 jaunte  Sat, May 11, 2013 10:59:54am

re: #77 Charles Johnson

Absolutely right. This is the face of the Republican Party. There’s no one sane left in the room.

Another example:

Rand Paul: Obama is working with ‘anti-American globalists plot[ting] against our Constitution.’

101 Randall Gross  Sat, May 11, 2013 11:03:23am

Raw video from Turkey

Youtube Video
102 thedopefishlives  Sat, May 11, 2013 11:03:51am

Afternoon Lizardim. Happy early Mother’s Day to all the mothers and grandmothers out there among the lizardfolk. How go things in the war on derp on this beautiful cold spring day?

103 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 11, 2013 11:16:08am

re: #101 Randall Gross

Raw video from Turkey

[Embedded content]

Most of the speculoation I’m seeing is spillover from Syria, which is certainly possible, but Kurds have been blowing shit up in Turkey for quite some time. Could be anyone responsible but doesn’t look severe enough to create a game changing event for the region. It seems the “red line” with Syria was a bluff and nobody’s rushing to get involved. Despite some support for rebels, live is what non-interventionism looks like. It’s not pretty.

104 Romantic Heretic  Sat, May 11, 2013 11:17:38am

re: #66 Eclectic Cyborg

I was thinking at breakfast this morning that all this GOP posturing for 2016 seems like a waste of resources and more “show than go” as it were.

I mean that election is OVER THREE YEARS AWAY!! Maybe we could, like, you know focus on the issues of 2013 and save all the Presidential crap for a year or so?

One thing I miss about Canada. There are no fixed elections. You never know when they are coming so you can’t be in permanent campaign mode like in the U.S. Also, a Canadian election from announcement to voting takes place in a few MONTHS. It’s a not years long ordeal like in America.

Six weeks. The election writ is dropped by the Governor General and then in six weeks the election is over.

Although, as Our Dear Leader demonstrates, that is no guarantee of wise governance.

105 jaunte  Sat, May 11, 2013 11:20:29am

Wheeee!

106 bratwurst  Sat, May 11, 2013 11:24:25am

re: #105 jaunte

Wheeee!

FREE MARKET FIRE CODES!

107 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 11, 2013 11:33:03am

re: #105 jaunte

McLennan county Texas, home of the West Fertilizer explosion, has no fire code.

This is all about what Rick Perry and deregulation is about: reduce “government interference” and business will BOOM!

108 Varek Raith  Sat, May 11, 2013 11:34:58am

re: #107 Sol Berdinowitz

This is all about what Rick Perry and deregulation is about: reduce “government interference” and business will BOOM!

Image: PerryBusinessInTexasOhman.jpeg

109 wrenchwench  Sat, May 11, 2013 11:43:13am

I didn’t feel a thing.

110 thedopefishlives  Sat, May 11, 2013 11:45:59am

re: #109 wrenchwench

I didn’t feel a thing.

A testament to our host’s skill with a code scalpel.

111 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 11, 2013 11:52:13am

re: #108 Varek Raith

Image: PerryBusinessInTexasOhman.jpeg

Rick Perry was very butt-hurt about that cartoon…

112 jaunte  Sat, May 11, 2013 11:55:01am

Here’s another self-interested wealthy jerk abusing the legal system in Texas:

Hotze to File Suit Over Federal Health Reform

Because Hotze’s business, Braidwood Management, has more than 50 employees, the law requires him to purchase employee health insurance or pay a $2,000 penalty for every full-time employee above a 30-employee threshold.

My business has more than 30 employees, and we pay full medical insurance.
It’s very possible to do, but you might not get to squeeze your employees in order to be a “prominent Republican donor.”

113 BigPapa  Sat, May 11, 2013 11:58:30am

Sowell trying to sell the putrid lie laying blame for the economic meltdown on Dodd, Frank, and the government helping poor people.

This dude in an intellectual hack. I don’t understand what others see in him.

114 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 11, 2013 12:02:07pm

re: #113 BigPapa

Sowell trying to sell the putrid lie laying blame for the economic meltdown on Dodd, Frank, and the government helping poor people.

This dude in an intellectual hack. I don’t understand what others see in him.

It’s easy to grasp, fits hadily into a Twitter feed and confirms a preconceived notion that government interference int he Free market brought about our economic demise.

115 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, May 11, 2013 12:05:19pm

re: #103 Killgore Trout

You’re not up on events in Turkey, are you?

The PKK has pulled out of Turkey, into Iraq, and are now in talks with the Turkish Government for a permanent solution.

Hell, I would say that, if it does end up coming back to Syria, the solution will be hastened.

116 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, May 11, 2013 12:10:31pm

re: #113 BigPapa

Sowell trying to sell the putrid lie laying blame for the economic meltdown on Dodd, Frank, and the government helping poor people.

This dude in an intellectual hack. I don’t understand what others see in him.

They like him as a nice token the way they like Justice Thomas or Herman Cain. The second they say anything wrong though they’d be out on the stoop.

117 Mattand  Sat, May 11, 2013 12:11:38pm

re: #116 William Barnett-Lewis

They like him as a nice token the way they like Justice Thomas or Herman Cain. The second they say anything wrong though they’d be out on the stoop.

Seriously. Look what happened to Michael Steele.

118 GeneJockey  Sat, May 11, 2013 12:18:28pm

re: #116 William Barnett-Lewis

They like him as a nice token the way they like Justice Thomas or Herman Cain. The second they say anything wrong though they’d be out on the stoop.

Indeed. Herman Cain came near to getting kicked to the curb when he suggested the historic name of Perry’s ranch was insensitive.

119 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 11, 2013 12:19:59pm

re: #117 Mattand

Seriously. Look what happened to Michael Steele.

Micheale Steele signed his own death warrant when he dared criticize Rush Limbaugh. They made him eat (Jim) Crow and apologiuze, but I believe that was the point that they decided that they would rather risk firing the only black man in the upper GOP heirarchy than keep him on.

120 wrenchwench  Sat, May 11, 2013 12:31:56pm

Hatch green chile is going to be going up in price.

121 BigPapa  Sat, May 11, 2013 12:42:14pm

re: #111 Sol Berdinowitz

Rick Perry was very butt-hurt about that cartoon…

That’s because it’s glaringly obvious and challenges his feeble minded logic on tax and regulation.

122 wrenchwench  Sat, May 11, 2013 12:44:21pm

I finally got around to watching the video posted here.

It’s worse than I expected, and my expectations were really low.

Youtube Video
123 A Mom Anon  Sat, May 11, 2013 12:46:34pm

re: #112 jaunte

Did you see the original article about this guy? He’s a alternative medicine quack who used to have a radio show on a station owned by a member of the legislature.

Also, I thought I read somewhere that the entire state of Texas has no fire code, is that right or did I misunderstand? About a decade ago my husband did fire safety work for his old employer in Texas and he said they used to have some of the toughest codes in the country.

124 AlexRogan  Sat, May 11, 2013 12:46:55pm

re: #109 wrenchwench

I didn’t feel a thing.

What, it wasn’t good for you?

///

125 jaunte  Sat, May 11, 2013 12:50:00pm

re: #123 A Mom Anon

Yes, he’s a very wealthy marketer of ‘maybe this will keep me younger’ stuff.

Not sure about the statewide codes, I think it’s county and municipality driven.

126 Romantic Heretic  Sat, May 11, 2013 12:50:50pm

Edited because I thought this hadn’t posted.

127 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, May 11, 2013 12:55:59pm

kitteh emergency!
Momma cat vacated the shop sometime Tuesday night/Wednesday morning. Her food and water haven’t been touched since.
After digging around in the storage area, we just found FIVE kittens!!!
They will be two weeks old on Monday. Eyes are open and they are VERY noisy (driving the dogs nutzo).
I sent hubby off to the store for some Similac. Anything else I can/should do before I can get them to the vet’s office on Monday?

128 Kragar  Sat, May 11, 2013 12:56:52pm

re: #127 Backwoods_Sleuth

kitteh emergency!
Momma cat vacated the shop sometime Tuesday night/Wednesday morning. Her food and water haven’t been touched since.
After digging around in the storage area, we just found FIVE kittens!!!
They will be two weeks old on Monday. Eyes are open and they are VERY noisy (driving the dogs nutzo).
I sent hubby off to the store for some Similac. Anything else I can/should do before I can get them to the vet’s office on Monday?

Check them for fleas.

129 Amory Blaine  Sat, May 11, 2013 12:57:03pm

How did crazy aunt Shelly get out of her room?!?!

130 Amory Blaine  Sat, May 11, 2013 12:59:04pm

re: #127 Backwoods_Sleuth

Whatever you do don’t overfeed them. I mistakenly found some kittens as a child and kept feeding them. Apparently I fed them to death.

131 AlexRogan  Sat, May 11, 2013 12:59:31pm

re: #123 A Mom Anon

Did you see the original article about this guy? He’s a alternative medicine quack who used to have a radio show on a station owned by a member of the legislature.

Also, I thought I read somewhere that the entire state of Texas has no fire code, is that right or did I misunderstand? About a decade ago my husband did fire safety work for his old employer in Texas and he said they used to have some of the toughest codes in the country.

As with many states, the TX State Fire Marshal’s office uses the NFPA 101 Life Safety Code as its standard of inspection; many municipalities and counties may have their own fire marshals and their own specific fire codes (or not, as we’ve come to find out about West, TX).

132 A Mom Anon  Sat, May 11, 2013 1:08:49pm

re: #131 AlexRogan

OK, I am familiar with NFPA, the husband has/had some sort of certificate from them for classes he took several years ago. I wish I could remember where the hell I read that Texas has no codes now, but I swear I read it somewhere shortly after the mess in West, TX.

133 Lidane  Sat, May 11, 2013 1:35:46pm
134 wrenchwench  Sat, May 11, 2013 1:39:19pm

re: #133 Lidane


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