Tech Note: LGF Pages Bookmarklet Supports Scribd and SoundCloud

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I’m about to sling some code at you here, so watch out. There’s a new improved version of the LGF Pages bookmarklet, and if you have an LGF account you can install it by deleting the old one (if you already installed it) from your browser’s bookmarks bar, then dragging the “Create a Page” button to the bookmarks bar in its place.

The new version extends our exclusive auto-embed feature to add scribd.com and SoundCloud to the auto-detected embed types. If you open the bookmarklet on any page containing an embedded Scribd document or SoundCloud audio file, it will be automatically added to your Page. If you want to test it out, here’s a page at Right Wing Watch with an embedded SoundCloud file: Radio Host Frequented by Gun Activists Calls for Shooting of Bush Family & Obama, Sexual Violence Against Hillary Clinton | Right Wing Watch.

Here’s the source code for the bookmarklet, in the interest of full disclosure. (Also because I want to test the latest version of our source code formatter.)

There are a couple of interesting tricks in this one; notice the method of loading jQuery by injecting a script tag into the page. I’ll leave the rest as an exercise for the nerds amongst us.

The bookmarklet source code:

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And here’s the minified version created with Google Closure Compiler:

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183 comments
1 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 17, 2013 7:32:05pm

MY KID WENT TO SEE STAR TREK TODAY AND DIDN’T INVITE ME or even tell me ‘til he got back.

2 klys and whatnot  Fri, May 17, 2013 7:33:51pm

re: #1 FemNaziBitch

MY KID WENT TO SEE STAR TREK TODAY AND DIDN’T INVITE ME or even tell me ‘til he got back.

Ummm. Hooray independence?

I think it’s getting added to the calendar this weekend. What I have seen seems to indicate I should able able to go without making me an emotional mess for the next two weeks.

(To be fair, the last Star Trek coincided with losing my cell phone and - more importantly - our beloved Coco. So it was a kind of shitty weekend, even if it is a fantastic movie.)

3 klys and whatnot  Fri, May 17, 2013 7:35:21pm

Trivia fact: Wil Wheaton did several voices for the Star Trek reboot, uncredited.

4 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 17, 2013 7:40:37pm

re: #2 klys

Ummm. Hooray independence?

I think it’s getting added to the calendar this weekend. What I have seen seems to indicate I should able able to go without making me an emotional mess for the next two weeks.

(To be fair, the last Star Trek coincided with losing my cell phone and - more importantly - our beloved Coco. So it was a kind of shitty weekend, even if it is a fantastic movie.)

No worries, the last Star Trek put me into a state of Cognitive Dissonance.

5 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 17, 2013 7:41:05pm

re: #3 klys

Trivia fact: Wil Wheaton did several voices for the Star Trek reboot, uncredited.

Excellent narrator for sci-fi audio books, BTW.

6 klys and whatnot  Fri, May 17, 2013 7:42:07pm

re: #4 FemNaziBitch

No worries, the last Star Trek put me into a state of Cognitive Dissonance.

I adored the last Star Trek. I found it true to the original while finding its own path. It was mostly the rest of what happened that weekend that made it a total clusterfuck. But now I have so much invested in these characters that it’s like …I can’t take it. So I have totally spoiled it for myself.

7 klys and whatnot  Fri, May 17, 2013 7:43:38pm

re: #5 FemNaziBitch

Excellent narrator for sci-fi audio books, BTW.

We should totally exchange some audiobook recommendations, which I suspect will bore several other lizards, but I am always for, on a variety of topics. I love Wil Wheaton so much, and get to see him in person again at w00tstock in July, which I am thrilled about. His wife (on Twitter) is even more fabulous, if you can believe it.

E-mail me at sylkai (at) that Googly-eyed place .com

9 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 17, 2013 7:47:32pm

No, I’m sorry, it is NOT cute.

10 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 17, 2013 7:48:06pm

Charles, thank you very much for the enhancements to the bookmarklet. It does make my life much easier.

11 klys and whatnot  Fri, May 17, 2013 7:51:18pm

re: #9 FemNaziBitch

No, I’m sorry, it is NOT cute.

Aardvarks are just weird. End of discussion.

12 klys and whatnot  Fri, May 17, 2013 7:51:47pm

Ok, I have the pasta ready for the pasta salad. I need him to get home with the rest of the ingredients.

13 ProTARDISLiberal  Fri, May 17, 2013 7:52:25pm

re: #6 klys

Unfortunately, I stumbled two weeks ago onto the Doctor Who section of Reddit. Apparently, a poster there was on the Doctor Who production teams, and had been chatting up a storm in regards to the future episodes up to now.

Short of it is, I have already spoiled the finale for myself, to a point. There are still a number of things I have no clue on.

14 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, May 17, 2013 7:55:46pm

re: #8 FemNaziBitch

New App Lets You Boycott Koch Brothers, Monsanto And More By Scanning Your Shopping Cart

Just never mind the irony of spending money with megacorp A to avoid spending money with megacorp B…

15 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 17, 2013 8:03:07pm

re: #14 William Barnett-Lewis

Just never mind the irony of spending money with megacorp A to avoid spending money with megacorp B…

I know! LOL

16 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 17, 2013 8:06:46pm

Usually, when stories about men telling women how to be women are found the jerkwater male is some evangelical wingnut. Tonight we’ve got something a bit different, as professional “health conspiracy” lunatic Mike Adams attacks Angelina Jolie for having a double mastectomy due to her genetic risk for breast cancer. Orac’s blog is our window into Adam’s insanity, since I refuse to link to Adams:

Now that that point is out of the way (and it’s arguably the most important point, which is why I skipped to the end of Adams’ screed first), Let’s get a real taste of what Adams thinks, if you can stand it and if you can call it “thinking”:

Angelina Jolie announced yesterday that she had both of her breasts surgically removed even though she had no breast cancer. She carries the BRCA1 gene, and she has been tricked into believing that genetic code is some sort of absolute blueprint to disease expression — which it most certainly is not. Countless millions of women carry the BRCA1 gene and never express breast cancer because they lead healthy, anti-cancer lifestyles based on smart nutrition, exercise, sensible sunlight exposure and avoidance of cancer-causing chemicals.

Jolie, like many other women who have been deluded by cancer quackery, decided the best way to prevent the risk of breast cancer was not to lead a healthy, anti-cancer lifestyle, but rather to surgically remove her breasts in what she describes as “three months of medical procedures.”

…just in case, you know. Because you can never be too careful these days, with the cancer industry scaring women half to death at every opportunity. “My breasts might murder me!” seems to be the slogan of many women these days, all of whom are victims of outrageous cancer industry propaganda and fear mongering.

And later:

Oh, what a mess Jolie has made of herself. She has maimed her own body with no medical justification whatsoever, then celebrated this horrible disfiguration through some sort of twisted perception of what womanhood really is. Being an empowered woman doesn’t mean cutting off your breasts and aborting live babies — even though both of these things are often celebrated by delusional women’s groups. Being an empowered woman means protecting your health, your body and your womanhood by honoring and respecting your body, not maiming it.

And, the “coup de grace”:

Wonderful? To cut off parts of your body that have NO disease? With this logic, abortions are cancer prevention, too, because those babies might one day grow up and develop tumors. Better to kill them early and “prevent cancer,” right?

The mind boggles.

Indeed it does.

17 Joanne  Fri, May 17, 2013 8:11:51pm

re: #9 FemNaziBitch

No, I’m sorry, it is NOT cute.

OMG! That thing is adorable!! Look at those ears!

Your cuteometer needs recalibration! :-)

18 Mattand  Fri, May 17, 2013 8:17:03pm

re: #16 Dark_Falcon

Usually, when stories about men telling women how to be women are found the jerkwater male is some evangelical wingnut. Tonight we’ve got something a bit different, as professional “health conspiracy” lunatic Mike Adams attacks Angelina Jolie for having a double mastectomy due to her genetic risk for breast cancer. Orac’s blog is our window into Adam’s insanity, since I refuse to link to Adams:

And later:

And, the “coup de grace”:

The mind boggles.

Indeed it does.

Love me some Respectful Insolence. And to hell with Mike Adams. The guy’s a menace to logic and science.

EDIT: Also, what Jolie did was hard enough. To go public with it is an amazing act of courage. To have a cretin like Adams shit all over her, makes him that much worse.

19 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 17, 2013 8:21:43pm

I no longer like to link to Fox News, but CNN didn’t pick up this story so FNC gets the link. PLL, your thoughts on this are requested:

Tunisia: Salafi conference threat to public order, setting up weekend confrontation

Tunisia’s Interior Ministry on Friday banned a conference by the North African country’s most prominent ultraconservative Islamic group, setting up the possibility of a confrontation over the weekend.

The ministry statement, which appeared on their Facebook site, said Ansar al-Shariah’s annual conference to be held in Tunisia’s holy city of Kairouan was not in compliance with the laws governing assembly and was a threat to public order.

Part of the ultraconservative salafi Muslim trend that gained popularity following the overthrow of Tunisia’s secular dictatorship in 2011, Ansar al-Shariah calls for the strict application of Islamic law.

The group’s leader, Seifallah Ben Hassine, is wanted in connection with an attack by a mob on the U.S. Embassy in Tunisia last September. Salafi groups have also been accused of attacking cinemas, art galleries and police stations.

The Islamist group’s reaction is a textbook case of DARVO:

The group’s spokesman, Seifeddine Rais, warned the state in a news conference Thursday against police intervention against the conference.

“If the government tries to stop the Kairouan congress, it will bear full responsibility for any blood spilled,” he said in a mosque where the conference was held. “The greater the pressure put on us, the greater the risk of an explosion.”

He added that the group had not applied for a permit to hold their conference, which last year featured martial arts contests and displays of horsemanship, because “when we preach the words of God we do not need authorization.”

20 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 17, 2013 8:24:51pm

re: #18 Mattand

Indeed it does.

Love me some Respectful Insolence. And to hell with Mike Adams. The guy’s a menace to logic and science.

EDIT: Also, what Jolie did was hard enough. To go public with it is an amazing act of courage. To have a cretin like Adams shit all over her, makes him that much worse.

The shit gonna be on Adams, actually. He’s gonna find fans of his who turn on him over this. My prediction: Mike Adams’ attack on Angelina Jolie will going to hurt him as bad as Rush Limbaugh has gotten hurt for his attack on Sandra Fluke. People rightly dislike the spectacle of a loudly ranting man attacking a woman, and Adams is going to pay for having done so.

21 klys and whatnot  Fri, May 17, 2013 8:25:49pm

Oh man, so, dinner.

I used VB’s olive pasta salad and we topped with pan-fried chicken sausages. It’s fantastic. I can already see so many opportunities for playing with this salad base. It’s nicely balanced, with just a hint of mayo flavor without it being EVERYWHERE and that means you can also keep the calories down. Hats off to VB - this is going in my rotation.

22 ProTARDISLiberal  Fri, May 17, 2013 8:27:48pm

Okay, my dad usually has the stereo on on Friday nights, usually with a certain bands CDs in. In this case, Green Day. There is one song from them that I have questions on.

Wake Me Up When September Ends was released as a single shortly before Hurricane Katrina threw the US on our back, requiring the Aid of everyone to help.

But here are the parts that gets to me.

like my father’s come to pass
seven years has gone so fast
wake me up when September ends

Well, using Katrina as a reference, what happened seven years earlier?

This. The event that showed the Superdome to be a poor shelter of last resort.

And later in the song….

like my father’s come to pass
twenty years has gone so fast

1985. The Year Danny, Elena, and Juan hit New Orleans.

My question is this. How the hell do the stars align like that for a song?

23 stabby  Fri, May 17, 2013 8:34:31pm

re: #16 Dark_Falcon

Maybe he’s a breast man who had a thing for Angelina’s…

24 ProTARDISLiberal  Fri, May 17, 2013 8:35:48pm

re: #19 Dark_Falcon

Not surprised. Tunisia though won’t have any of it. I am worried about violence, but I don’t think this will be as threatening to the stability as the MB in Libya.

And this actually is in some ways good news. Tunisia is right now MB-ruled. So essentially, you have one group of radicals threatening the other, and its mutual. It’s good thing to see the radicals attacking each other, weakening each other. It allows more liberal groups to strengthen.

Combined with the Libyan Crackdown on Militias today in Tripoli and Benghazi, which will expand country-wide over the next weeks and months, and this song will describe my thoughts on this.

25 stabby  Fri, May 17, 2013 8:38:08pm

re: #20 Dark_Falcon

The shit gonna be on Adams, actually. He’s gonna find fans of his who turn on him over this. My prediction: Mike Adams’ attack on Angelina Jolie will going to hurt him as bad as Rush Limbaugh has gotten hurt for his attack on Sandra Fluke. People rightly dislike the spectacle of a loudly ranting man attacking a woman, and Adams is going to pay for having done so.

It can’t be THAT bad. Limbaugh is putting two large media companies out of business. And he’ll be fine of course.

I guess this means two things:
1) Limbaugh WAS their business.
and/or
2) He had an iron-clad contract that makes him unfireable.

26 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 17, 2013 8:39:45pm

re: #22 ProTARDISLiberal

Okay, my dad usually has the stereo on on Friday nights, usually with a certain bands CDs in. In this case, Green Day. There is one song from them that I have questions on.

Wake Me Up When September Ends was released as a single shortly before Hurricane Katrina threw the US on our back, requiring the Aid of everyone to help.

But here are the parts that gets to me.

Well, using Katrina as a reference, what happened seven years earlier?

This. The event that showed the Superdome to be a poor shelter of last resort.

And later in the song….

1985. The Year Danny, Elena, and Juan hit New Orleans.

My question is this. How the hell do the stars align like that for a song?

The song was part of the American Idiot album, and was recorded long before Hurricane Katrina formed in the Atlantic. It was just put out on the radio and its video released after Katrina, both things which had also been planned before the storm. So I have to say the juxtaposition is in fact only coincidence. But good catch in spotting it.

I wonder if your father has reflected on the conflict between his political beliefs and those expressed very clearly on the American Idiot album. For the video for “Wake Me Up When September Ends” was very clearly anti-Iraq War:

27 ProTARDISLiberal  Fri, May 17, 2013 8:46:09pm

re: #26 Dark_Falcon

To say there is conflict would be an understatement. I get the feeling he is someone who allows his emotions and anger to direct what he is thinking politically at any specific moment.

My politics don’t change, just the way I show it.

To be fair, Iraq was a dumb war. We should not have been there in the first place.

In regards to Afghanistan, I am curious about the documents that will leak as Pakistan fissions apart like Yugoslavia did. The number of similarities between the 2 is staggering.

I remain curious at the number of links between the ISI and the Taliban and Al Qaeda. I, for one, think that the ISI may have known things on 9/11, and not told us the details. Even Ahmed Shah Massoud was giving warnings to the US at that time.

28 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 17, 2013 8:46:30pm

re: #24 ProTARDISLiberal

Not surprised. Tunisia though won’t have any of it. I am worried about violence, but I don’t think this will be as threatening to the stability as the MB in Libya.

And this actually is in some ways good news. Tunisia is right now MB-ruled. So essentially, you have one group of radicals threatening the other, and its mutual. It’s good thing to see the radicals attacking each other, weakening each other. It allows more liberal groups to strengthen.

Combined with the Libyan Crackdown on Militias today in Tripoli and Benghazi, which will expand country-wide over the next weeks and months, and this song will describe my thoughts on this.

[Embedded content]

Tunisia’s governing party is aligned with the MB, but is somewhat more moderate than the majority of the Brotherhood. That’s part of why the Salafists hate them, seeing them as the Islamist equivalent of RINOs .

Tunisia has also got a active Islamist terror force with it’s borders, hiding near Kasserine Pass (yes, the same Kasserine Pass where Rommel beat up on the US II Corps in 1943). That plus the recent MB blockades of government offices in Libya have likely convinced the Tunisian government that it needs to take a hard line against the Salafists. They are correct in that conclusion.

29 ProTARDISLiberal  Fri, May 17, 2013 8:51:29pm

re: #28 Dark_Falcon

True. However, the MB in Tunisia last year was quite happy letting the nuts attack US restaurants and the like during the stupid video scandal. Likely to distract from the issues of a moribund economy and lack of a constitution.

Since then, nothing has changed. Libya, by contrast has made improvements, and apparently, this week a red line was passed, and the MB in Libya is now getting more blowback than ever.

I heard Anthony Bourdain’s interview of CNN regarding him being in Libya. He seems to have fallen in love with the country. I have too. I’m hoping, when I find someone, to have a honeymoon in Morocco and Libya. An old loyal ally, and the feistiest country on the planet.

30 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 17, 2013 8:56:13pm

re: #29 ProTARDISLiberal

True. However, the MB in Tunisia last year was quite happy letting the nuts attack US restaurants and the like during the stupid video scandal. Likely to distract from the issues of a moribund economy and lack of a constitution.

Since then, nothing has changed. Libya, by contrast has made improvements, and apparently, this week a red line was passed, and the MB in Libya is now getting more blowback than ever.

I heard Anthony Bourdain’s interview of CNN regarding him being in Libya. He seems to have fallen in love with the country. I have too. I’m hoping, when I find someone, to have a honeymoon in Morocco and Libya. An old loyal ally, and the feistiest country on the planet.

What changed was the presence of a hard core of insurgents/terrorists. A force like that has the ability to greatly increase the power of the Salafists to do damage, and in turn the Salafists would provide it with recruits. Tunisia has learned at least part of the lessons of Vietnam and the various insurgencies of Central and South America: You need to move quickly and smash a totalitarian insurgency before it can take root. But the government must while doing that learn and apply the rest of the lessons, which focus on dealing with the social problems that provided fertile soil for the insurgents.

32 Lidane  Fri, May 17, 2013 10:15:08pm

re: #22 ProTARDISLiberal

To be fair, that song is about the death of Billie Joe Armstrong’s father to cancer when he was a kid. According to the story, Billie Joe was so overcome by the loss that he locked himself in his bedroom. When his mother went to check on him, he told her to wake him up when September ended.

It’s just coincidence that the song got released before Katrina hit.

33 Lidane  Fri, May 17, 2013 10:35:59pm

re: #26 Dark_Falcon

A lot of people still think that Born in the USA is a jingoistic anthem, or that Rockin’ in the Free World is an anti-communist song.

People don’t always pay attention to the lyrics of a song they like.

34 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 17, 2013 11:17:23pm

Photoshopped?

Bush Umbrella-ella-ella

35 Kragar  Fri, May 17, 2013 11:29:32pm

re: #33 Lidane

A lot of people still think that Born in the USA is a jingoistic anthem, or that Rockin’ in the Free World is an anti-communist song.

People don’t always pay attention to the lyrics of a song they like.

Like the Pina Colada Song or Follow Me.

36 HoosierHoops  Fri, May 17, 2013 11:39:14pm

I’m having a Blast playing on the 24” iMac I bought today!
I installed Firefox for Mac..Safari is ok but I’m used to FF.
I’ve installed some cool apps already.
The iMac is awesome! Woot!

37 FemNaziBitch  Sat, May 18, 2013 12:04:12am
38 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 18, 2013 12:41:32am

re: #33 Lidane

A lot of people still think that Born in the USA is a jingoistic anthem, or that Rockin’ in the Free World is an anti-communist song.

People don’t always pay attention to the lyrics of a song they like.

That’s because nuance is dead in the sound byte-based, Twitter-addled world we live in.

Remember that the Beatles decided to change original lyrics to “Get Back”, they were originally mocking racist xenophobes like Enoch Powell, but they realized that that bit of subtley might get lost and they themselves be branded racists.

39 freetoken  Sat, May 18, 2013 1:04:42am
40 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Sat, May 18, 2013 1:09:03am

Mr T has apparently announced his intent to study poli-sci.

41 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 18, 2013 3:05:08am

re: #40 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Mr T has apparently announced his intent to study poli-sci.

I appreciate the great American tradition of questioning established authorities and established views.

But it has degenerated into the approach of people rejecting things out of hand because they do not understand them or how they work.

42 freetoken  Sat, May 18, 2013 3:14:41am

Tonight our feature is Glazunov’s “King of the Jews”. Previously was the introduction. Here is the second part, “Song of the disciples”:


And, “The Palace of Pontius Pilate”:

43 122 Year Old Obama  Sat, May 18, 2013 3:25:50am

I still can’t believe UmbrellaGate is a thing. How stupid are these people?

44 Decatur Deb  Sat, May 18, 2013 4:09:36am

re: #43 122 Year Old Obama

I still can’t believe UmbrellaGate is a thing. How stupid are these people?

The science on that isn’t settled.

45 Obdicut is an Obdislut apparently  Sat, May 18, 2013 4:45:01am

re: #43 122 Year Old Obama

I still can’t believe UmbrellaGate is a thing. How stupid are these people?

They’re stupid enough to not understand the chain of command. Despite claiming to love the military.

46 Obdicut is an Obdislut apparently  Sat, May 18, 2013 4:46:16am

I have hired a dude. I am paying him a fair wage— more than fair, really, $20/hr for stuff I’m training him to do— and yet i still somehow feel like an oppressor salting my margarita with the salt tears of the underclass.

I’m sure this feeling will fade as soon as he starts screwing up.

47 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, May 18, 2013 5:02:01am

A few days ago, I spoke briefly with the guns/ammo manager at a certain large retail outlet. He told me they are getting their normal allotments and shipments of ammunition, but “somehow” the employees and members of a certain local shooting range manage to arrive en masse at the same time the truck does and buy up every round before anyone else even knows about it. The range then re-sells the ammo to gullible conspira-fools for an 800% markup. I suspect this is going on all over the country. This reminds us that not all suggestions of conspiracy are foolish: I don’t think it is too much of a stretch to at least speculate that the range is being tipped off by one of the retailer’s employees, and that this person is getting a cut of the action.
As I have said before, it beggars belief that there are large numbers of people who actually believe Obama is going to ban the manufacture the sale of .22LR ammunition, so much so that they will pay 8 times what the price was a year ago and be happy to have it. I wonder how many of these doofi, these morons, have blown their kids’ college money paying hyper inflated prices for huge piles of ammunition? If nothing else, this outburst of insanity might put an end to the commercial conspiracy industry once the bubble bursts.
Retailers who have indulged directly in this gouging should be shown no mercy when the bubble does burst. “Cheaper Than Dirt,” for example, should be prepared to re-name itself “Deader than a Door Knob.” Hoarders who have reduced themselves to poverty with their vicious and foolish indulgence should similarly be allowed to suffer the consequences of their folly. If I see one of them begging outside the local mall, for example, I will tell him to eat lead and then report him to security.

48 Decatur Deb  Sat, May 18, 2013 5:05:16am

re: #47 Shiplord Kirel

A few days ago, I spoke briefly with the guns/ammo manager at a certain large retail outlet. He told me they are getting their normal allotments and shipments of ammunition, but “somehow” the employees and members of a certain local shooting range manage to arrive en masse at the same time the truck does and buy up every round before anyone else even knows about it. The range then re-sells the ammo to gullible conspira-fools for an 800% markup. I suspect this is going on all over the country. This reminds us that not all suggestions of conspiracy are foolish: I don’t think it is too much of a stretch to at least speculate that the range is being tipped off by one of the retailer’s employees, and that this person is getting a cut of the action.
As I have said before, it beggars belief that there are large numbers of people who actually believe Obama is going to ban the manufacture the sale of .22LR ammunition, so much so that they will pay 8 times what the price was a year ago and be happy to have it. I wonder how many of these doofi, these morons, have blown their kids’ college money paying hyper inflated prices for huge piles of ammunition? If nothing else, this outburst of insanity might put an end to the commercial conspiracy industry once the bubble bursts.
Retailers who have indulged directly in this gouging should be shown no mercy when the bubble does burst. “Cheaper Than Dirt,” for example, should be prepared to re-name itself “Deader than a Door Knob.” Hoarders who have reduced themselves to poverty with their vicious and foolish indulgence should similarly be allowed to suffer the consequences of their folly. If I see one of them begging outside the local mall, for example, I will tell him to eat lead and then report him to security.

Ammo and black guns have returned to our flea market, but at prices a couple times higher than 6 mos ago.

49 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, May 18, 2013 5:05:20am

A glimpse into the future, beggar’s sign observed outside a local sporting goods store:

“HELP! Ammo hoard now worthless! Will kill for food!”

50 freetoken  Sat, May 18, 2013 5:13:00am

re: #47 Shiplord Kirel

Yeah, someone in the supply chain is getting a spiff from the local shooting range.

Marks - our society is full of them.

51 lawhawk  Sat, May 18, 2013 5:13:25am

re: #48 Decatur Deb

Normal economic theory would suggest that if there’s higher demand for a good, that retailers would mark up the price accordingly, and supply and demand would reach an equilibrium. That isn’t happening because traditional sellers aren’t raising their prices because they think that buyers wouldn’t stand for it. But they’re not having any problem with those who are essentially scalping the ammo on alternative channels. That, they’re okay with.

An economics textbook would say this shouldn’t happen. It would say that Bob Viden, who has run the shop for almost 50 years, should respond to the increase in demand by raising prices. And some stores and online sellers have done just that. But, Viden told me, “We don’t want to do that. We want to be fair.”

Apparently so do some of the best-known ammo sources across the country. At the sporting goods store Cabela’s and at Wal-Mart, shelves are empty but prices are mostly flat. During my conversations at Bob’s Little Sport Shop, the word “fair” came up about two-dozen times. Or, as one customer put it, “There’s no reason to make a profit off of our misfortune.”

To a traditional economist, a shortage is evidence prices are too low. But Viden predicts if he raises his prices, his customers won’t come back because they’ll think he ripped them off.

“Traditional economic theory doesn’t really have room for fairness perceptions,” Margaret Campbell, a marketing professor at the University of Colorado, Boulder, told me. But about 30 years ago, she says, “people started noticing that there were these kind of quirks.”

In a famous study, the Nobel Laureate Daniel Kahneman and two colleagues found that people’s ideas of fairness are so strong that, even if it makes short-term sense to raise prices during a shortage, many retailers don’t. Campbell says that’s because when prices go up, consumers actually care about the reason behind the increase — the retailer’s motive.

“If a consumer sees a price go up in an unexpected fashion, they want to know, ‘Why? Why has it gone up?’ ” she says.

There are lots of reasons consumers approve of (if the price the store is paying for the goods has increased, for example). But research has consistently shown that a sudden increase in demand is not one of them. So rather than raise prices, Bob’s Little Sport Shop and other stores are rationing ammo in order to keep their customers’ loyalty.

No reason to make a profit off misfortune? Wait, what’s the misfortune - that there’s higher demand for a product? Not wanting to make a profit? Isn’t that anti-capitalist? What’s going on here - we’ve stepped off into bearded Spock territory. /

52 Eclectic Cyborg  Sat, May 18, 2013 5:13:41am

re: #33 Lidane

A lot of people still think that Born in the USA is a jingoistic anthem, or that Rockin’ in the Free World is an anti-communist song.

People don’t always pay attention to the lyrics of a song they like.

Let’s not forget all the people who request “The one I love” for their husband/wife/etc.

53 BongCrodny  Sat, May 18, 2013 5:37:38am

re: #47 Shiplord Kirel

A few days ago, I spoke briefly with the guns/ammo manager at a certain large retail outlet. He told me they are getting their normal allotments and shipments of ammunition, but “somehow” the employees and members of a certain local shooting range manage to arrive en masse at the same time the truck does and buy up every round before anyone else even knows about it. The range then re-sells the ammo to gullible conspira-fools for an 800% markup. I suspect this is going on all over the country. This reminds us that not all suggestions of conspiracy are foolish: I don’t think it is too much of a stretch to at least speculate that the range is being tipped off by one of the retailer’s employees, and that this person is getting a cut of the action.
As I have said before, it beggars belief that there are large numbers of people who actually believe Obama is going to ban the manufacture the sale of .22LR ammunition, so much so that they will pay 8 times what the price was a year ago and be happy to have it. I wonder how many of these doofi, these morons, have blown their kids’ college money paying hyper inflated prices for huge piles of ammunition? If nothing else, this outburst of insanity might put an end to the commercial conspiracy industry once the bubble bursts.
Retailers who have indulged directly in this gouging should be shown no mercy when the bubble does burst. “Cheaper Than Dirt,” for example, should be prepared to re-name itself “Deader than a Door Knob.” Hoarders who have reduced themselves to poverty with their vicious and foolish indulgence should similarly be allowed to suffer the consequences of their folly. If I see one of them begging outside the local mall, for example, I will tell him to eat lead and then report him to security.

Maybe there’s a niche market in there somewhere for “Bulletline,” a la “Goldline.”

“The prices will just keep going up and up and up and up!!”

All things considered, I guess I’d rather remain dirt poor.

54 BongCrodny  Sat, May 18, 2013 5:39:58am

re: #52 Eclectic Cyborg

Let’s not forget all the people who request “The one I love” for their husband/wife/etc.

I’ve always been at a loss as to how anybody could misinterpret “A simple prop to occupy my time.”

55 Obdicut is an Obdislut apparently  Sat, May 18, 2013 5:44:03am

re: #53 BongCrodny

Maybe there’s a niche market in there somewhere for “Bulletline,” a la “Goldline.”

“The prices will just keep going up and up and up and up!!”

All things considered, I guess I’d rather remain dirt poor.

Combine Bitcoins, gold, ammo, and seeds into one investment for the perfect trap for the survivalist ‘libertarian’ idiot.

56 HoosierHoops  Sat, May 18, 2013 5:51:51am

re: #55 Bert’s House of Beef and Obdicuts

Combine Bitcoins, gold, ammo, and seeds into one investment for the perfect trap for the survivalist ‘libertarian’ idiot.

You forgot to add Silver..

57 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 18, 2013 5:58:42am

re: #51 lawhawk

Normal economic theory would suggest that if there’s higher demand for a good, that retailers would mark up the price accordingly, and supply and demand would reach an equilibrium. That isn’t happening because traditional sellers aren’t raising their prices because they think that buyers wouldn’t stand for it. But they’re not having any problem with those who are essentially scalping the ammo on alternative channels. That, they’re okay with.

No reason to make a profit off misfortune? Wait, what’s the misfortune - that there’s higher demand for a product? Not wanting to make a profit? Isn’t that anti-capitalist? What’s going on here - we’ve stepped off into bearded Spock territory. /

My guess: Bob Viden does indeed want to be fair, thinking of the long term. Sooner or later, this run of panic ammo buying will end. It may not end till January of 2017, but it will end. And when it does, Bob will still be in business and his customers will think of him as a fair and decent man who always made sure to get them some of what they wanted.

So Bob Viden isn’t making record profits, but he’ll still have his customer base when the guy who squeezed as much as possible out of the panic buyers has seen his business go the way of the dodo.

58 A Mom Anon  Sat, May 18, 2013 6:18:51am

So I was reading this article yesterday that says one in five American kids has some kind of “mental disorder”. My bullshitometer usually starts beeping really loudly at these “studies” because other countries don’t have the same issues unless the country itself is experiencing severe economic issues leading to lots of poverty or war and terrorism are the norm. More of our kids are on various meds(which do have their place, but as a parent who spent more than her share of time fighting to keep her son OFF those meds, I can assure you that way too many times those drugs are pushed in lieu of creative teaching) than other nations, and yet these issues persist.

As I’m thinking about all this, I have to wonder if the way we design and operate our schools is part of the problem. There’s a caste system of sorts in middle and high school and IMO schools are too large and warehouse-y to invoke a sense of community and a sort of “team spirit”(and I am not talking about school sports, that is also part of the problem). If you aren’t all Abercrombie and Fitch enough, you aren’t going to be welcomed there. Adults let this happen, most likely because they feel like this crap is some sort of character building rite of passage. Um, no.

My son has been out of school for almost a year now, and I am only now finding out the extent of the abuse and bullying he endured since 7th grade. I am amazed at his courage, some of what was done to him is or borders on criminal. And yet he walked into that lion’s den every day and did his best, even when no one there believed in him.

What would be a better model for schools? We have this infrastructure of huge buildings to contend with, so how do we utilize those and make things less awful for our young people? Would that help this rise in unhappy, hurting and angry kids?

59 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 18, 2013 6:24:05am

re: #37 FemNaziBitch

I like Margaritaville

Nice choice of vid for the song. The concert it shows happened at Wrigley Field, hence the initial scene’s shot of a man wearing a Cubs shirt outside of the Billy Goat Tavern (the location in Wrigleyville, to be exact).

Northside, if it takes forever!

60 darthstar  Sat, May 18, 2013 6:54:21am

Charles…you’re going to kill people’s ability to copy/paste.

What this world really needs is a “redact widget,” that culls dishonest statements from the internet. Of course, the RNC website would be reduced to little more than a splash page and a link to Paypal, while Fox News would disappear altogether.

61 Obdicut is an Obdislut apparently  Sat, May 18, 2013 6:54:56am

re: #58 A Mom Anon

The uncomfortable truth is that there’s such a variety of ways in which kids learn that a single solution will not work for all. Some kids simply can’t learn well in a classroom setting. Other kids cannot learn from reviewing written material. What is necessary is an individual profile for each child, figuring out how best they learn.

A lot of the kids in school don’t treat it as an educational environment because it really isn’t. I’m not saying all bullies would be fine if they just were approached in the right way, but a lot of kids provide support and power to the bullies because they become bitter and cynical about the lack of purpose in school.

Finally, the anti-intellectualism, anti-science attitudine of the GOP and the right-wing is a large problem in this. Their constant shit-talking of teachers, of educators, of professors, of scientists along with their stupid hyping of ‘macho’ness both devalue the work that students do and glorify bullies.

62 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 18, 2013 6:56:56am

re: #43 122 Year Old Obama

I still can’t believe UmbrellaGate is a thing. How stupid are these people?

To paraphrase Joan Walsh: “When people criticize Obama for things that were perfectly acceptable under a white President, there is only one real reason I can see.”

63 darthstar  Sat, May 18, 2013 6:57:40am

Oh, and mornin’ y’all. Long day of dark, chewy reds ahead of me. Santa Lucia Highlands wine gala 2013…yum. And a night in Monterey.

64 BigPapa  Sat, May 18, 2013 6:57:57am

re: #58 A Mom Anon

I went to a smaller ‘continuation’ high school with a much different atmosphere, worked for me. Just an idea.

65 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 18, 2013 6:58:31am

re: #52 Eclectic Cyborg

Let’s not forget all the people who request “The one I love” for their husband/wife/etc.

and people who request “hallelujah” as a wedding song

66 A Mom Anon  Sat, May 18, 2013 7:03:07am

re: #61 Bert’s House of Beef and Obdicuts

Which also means spending more money, or spending what we have more efficiently. Which means of course things are not going to change except pushing for more idiotic vouchers and privatization. Yeah, that’ll help. I’m trying to visualize what a curriculum that taught the same things in many different ways would look like.

I’m kind of heartbroken that my kid went through all this shit and I kept pushing him to go to school. Had I known what I know now, some freaking charges would have been filed and I would have sued the school system. There’s no proof that would hold up in court or I’d do it now, I’m really fucking pissed off, at myself, at the kids responsible and at the adults who I trusted to have his back. GAH! And if my kid went through this, I know there’s a whole lot more that are suffering in silence. Damn it.

67 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 18, 2013 7:03:17am

re: #62 Sol Berdinowitz

To paraphrase Joan Walsh: “When people criticize Obama for things that wee perfectly acceptable under a white President, there is only one real reason I can see.”

It’s clear racism in that case, the idea being that a white man should not hold an umbrella for a black man.

I was going to call it “simple racism” originally, but the motivational factors behind it are anything but simple and some of them have been present in America since before the Revolutionary War.

68 Obdicut is an Obdislut apparently  Sat, May 18, 2013 7:11:42am

re: #66 A Mom Anon

I got viciously bullied at times in school, and I wasn’t even the one who got it worse. One guy got bullied so much that he started abusing steroids so that he could physically match up to his abusers. Fucked up.

As for a curriculum presented in different ways, people self-select for that at higher levels. My wife, for example, only learns from audible material if the person speaks quickly, so she records her lectures and plays them at 2x or 3x speed. She doesn’t learn from simply looking at images well, but she learns wonderfully from copying or free-drawing that image. So she does that.

These things are relatively easy to test for, and we have more than enough money in the bloated admin portion of the education budget to pay for such testing. The main monetary challenge would be signing this multipronged approach— textbooks for some, recorded videos for other, interactive games for others. But the rewards for our country would be huge.

69 A Mom Anon  Sat, May 18, 2013 7:20:58am

re: #68 Bert’s House of Beef and Obdicuts

I agree. Our county Superintendent of schools is paid a half million dollars a year. The rest of the board makes around 250K each. There’s 6 of them. The principals and assistant principals(the high schools have at least 3 each)make somewhere in the neighborhood of 125-170K, teachers, not so much. This is supposed to be one of the better districts in GA, but the cuts are not producing kids who are ready for college. I know of at least 6 kids who barely made it through the first year of college and are not going back in the fall. This county supposedly has one of the highest rates of adult college gradutates in GA, but their kids aren’t doing as well. Something’s wrong, or a whole lot of somethings. School isn’t a place to learn, in fact, it’s deemed “uncool” to be smart now, more than it was when I was in school(where you got called a bookworm or whatever and maybe made fun of if you wore glasses). So it makes you a target for hate if you are there to learn, and adults tolerate it.

70 darthstar  Sat, May 18, 2013 7:22:09am

Charles Blow…a must read about why the hat-trick of GOP scandal mongering fail this week will not work for them.

So an unpopular movement applied for tax-exempt status under conditions made possible by an unpopular court decision, in order to influence politics with unfathomable amounts money from unnamed donors? Good luck gaining sympathy for that.

71 darthstar  Sat, May 18, 2013 7:24:34am

re: #67 Dark_Falcon

It’s clear racism in that case, the idea being that a white man should not hold an umbrella for a black man.

I was going to call it “simple racism” originally, but the motivational factors behind it are anything but simple and some of them have been present in America since before the Revolutionary War.

You know what’s been present since before the Revolutionary War? Racism.

Maybe it’s because President Obama used a marine in fancy dress instead of fatigues.

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72 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 18, 2013 7:24:35am

re: #68 Bert’s House of Beef and Obdicuts

I got viciously bullied at times in school, and I wasn’t even the one who got it worse. One guy got bullied so much that he started abusing steroids so that he could physically match up to his abusers. Fucked up.

As for a curriculum presented in different ways, people self-select for that at higher levels. My wife, for example, only learns from audible material if the person speaks quickly, so she records her lectures and plays them at 2x or 3x speed. She doesn’t learn from simply looking at images well, but she learns wonderfully from copying or free-drawing that image. So she does that.

These things are relatively easy to test for, and we have more than enough money in the bloated admin portion of the education budget to pay for such testing. The main monetary challenge would be signing this multipronged approach— textbooks for some, recorded videos for other, interactive games for others. But the rewards for our country would be huge.

The problem with that approach is that it would be opposed from both the right and left. Conservatives would see it as needlessly experimental, not instilling discipline in students*, or “an attempt to use video and special classes to create socialists” (this last is pretty dumb, but it would get said). Liberals would feel it ruined the communitarian aspects of education*, would result in the restructuring of school budgets in a way not in the teacher’s unions favor, or “was a right-wing Koch Industires plot to use tech to create hyper-capitalists” (also dumb, but it would be said less often).

*: The two points marked with an astrix are really expressing the same type of concern, that being that games wouldn’t instill a child with needed social skills. Unlike the dumb points, this concern shouldn’t be dismissed casually.

73 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 18, 2013 7:25:06am

re: #70 darthstar

Charles Blow…a must read about why the hat-trick of GOP scandal mongering fail this week will not work for them.

It would not work except that their opponent is the IRS, for whom nobody has any sympathy.

74 Obdicut is an Obdislut apparently  Sat, May 18, 2013 7:25:49am

re: #69 A Mom Anon

The stupid part is the morons in the GOP howling about teacher salaries when the problem has actually been expansion of the admin and bureaucracy. Idiots can’t even hit an ideological broadside of the barn. Because they’re not actually complaining about the money and the waste, they just are opposed to public education.

75 Obdicut is an Obdislut apparently  Sat, May 18, 2013 7:26:45am

re: #72 Dark_Falcon

Liberals don’t value the communitarianism of education, whatever the hell that is.

And it would restructure the schools in the teacher’s union’s favor. Are you just not reading what I’m writing?

76 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 18, 2013 7:28:58am

re: #71 darthstar

You know what’s been present since before the Revolutionary War? Racism.

Maybe it’s because President Obama used a marine in fancy dress instead of fatigues.

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Well in Reagan’s case, he is shown with a Secret Service man, which is seen somewhat differently. In the case of George Bush the Elder, his WWII service and the extreme hardship it entailed mean that few would think less of him for the umbrella hold.

George Bush the Younger? No comment.

77 Obdicut is an Obdislut apparently  Sat, May 18, 2013 7:30:26am

re: #76 Dark_Falcon

But there is simply no problem in any case with the umbrella being held for them. At all. There are probably light birds out there on the golf course right now having a corporal hold their umbrella.

78 darthstar  Sat, May 18, 2013 7:30:34am

re: #73 Sol Berdinowitz

It would not work except that their opponent is the IRS, for whom nobody has any sympathy.

But, as Blow points out, the IRS is the GOP’s #1 bogeyman(next to the Kenyan in office). For the last 12 years we’ve heard nothing but ‘tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts’ from Republicans. They’ve been crying wolf for so long they have zero credibility when there is a possible scancal. The IRS is more popular among Americans than the GOP at this point.

And of course there’s Michele Bachmann who’s ready to help drive a nail into the GOP’s forehead:

“Since the I.R.S. also is the chief enforcer of Obamacare requirements, she asked whether the I.R.S.’s admission means it ‘will deny or delay access to health care’ for conservatives. At this point, she said, that ‘is a reasonable question to ask.’ “

“Reasonable” and “Bachmann” don’t even belong in the same conversation, let alone the same sentence, and yet she remains one of the most visible spokeswomen for the movement.

79 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 18, 2013 7:30:41am

re: #75 Bert’s House of Beef and Obdicuts

Liberals don’t value the communitarianism of education, whatever the hell that is.

And it would restructure the schools in the teacher’s union’s favor. Are you just not reading what I’m writing?

Call them the “socialization” aspects, them. That was what I really wanted to say, but given the word ‘socialist’ earlier in the paragraph it would have required a rather clunky disclaimer.

80 A Mom Anon  Sat, May 18, 2013 7:31:41am

re: #72 Dark_Falcon

In GA the teacher’s unions aren’t a concern since only 5 percent of teachers here have a union to belong to. No one to pander to here, except the companies panting to make a fortune off of charter schools. It’s about HOW the money gets spent and making learning a good experience while the kid actually gets the help they need to be successful. No one said a thing about playing games either, I have no clue where you got that from. Though there are games that help teach reading and the like, in addition to other ways of teaching. We are all different, schools have not grown and changed to adapt to what we have learned about human development, much of what we’re doing isn’t working because no one wants to be bothered to adapt. Or invest in kids. Schools shouldn’t be about making money or saving it, the investment is in PEOPLE, which takes time to see results.

81 Obdicut is an Obdislut apparently  Sat, May 18, 2013 7:32:09am

re: #79 Dark_Falcon

Call them the “socialization” aspects, them. That was what I really wanted to say, but given the word ‘socialist’ earlier in the paragraph it would have required a rather clunky disclaimer.

The classroom isn’t the place for socialization anyway. I have no clue what you’re talking about. This isn’t taking kids off by themselves and locking them in rooms with their preferred method of learning.

82 Obdicut is an Obdislut apparently  Sat, May 18, 2013 7:32:38am

re: #79 Dark_Falcon

And do you understand why this would actually be a good thing for the teacher’s union?

83 darthstar  Sat, May 18, 2013 7:34:15am

re: #76 Dark_Falcon

Nobody’s criticizing Reagan or either Bush for having someone hold an umbrella. Hell, they were fucking Presidents of the United States at the time. For white fuckers, that’s a title that demands a little fucking respect.

And I do mean ‘demands’…Remember the righteous indignation Bush 43’s girlfriend Condi would feign whenever she was asked about evidence…”How dare you impugn the office of the president!”

84 A Mom Anon  Sat, May 18, 2013 7:40:42am

re: #81 Bert’s House of Beef and Obdicuts

Socialization comes with being in social situations. Classrooms do provide some of that, and there would be more positive interactions in classrooms that had more hands on learning and project oriented assignments. Socialization seems to mean for some people at least, goofing off and yapping about what you saw on tv last night.

I totally believe that if you sat down liberal and conservative parents and just told them what the goal was, to better educate their kids and have a good end result without making it a fucking political team sport that there would be much disagreement regardless of politics. Anyone who says they don’t want their kid prepped for college or some sort of tech/vocational career path once they graduate is a lying sack of crap. Decent parents ALL want a good path forward for their kids, regardless of politics.

85 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 18, 2013 7:40:50am

re: #83 darthstar

Nobody’s criticizing Reagan or either Bush for having someone hold an umbrella. Hell, they were fucking Presidents of the United States at the time. For white fuckers, that’s a title that demands a little fucking respect.

And I do mean ‘demands’…Remember the righteous indignation Bush 43’s girlfriend Condi would feign whenever she was asked about evidence…”How dare you impugn the office of the president!”

or cast aspersions on my asparagus!

86 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 18, 2013 7:41:31am

re: #82 Bert’s House of Beef and Obdicuts

And do you understand why this would actually be a good thing for the teacher’s union?

No, I don’t.

87 Feline Fearless Leader  Sat, May 18, 2013 7:42:04am

re: #84 A Mom Anon

Socialization comes with being in social situations. Classrooms do provide some of that, and there would be more positive interactions in classrooms that had more hands on learning and project oriented assignments. Socialization seems to mean for some people at least, goofing off and yapping about what you saw on tv last night.

I totally believe that if you sat down liberal and conservative parents and just told them what the goal was, to better educate their kids and have a good end result without making it a fucking political team sport that there would be much disagreement regardless of politics. Anyone who says they don’t want their kid prepped for college or some sort of tech/vocational career path once they graduate is a lying sack of crap. Decent parents ALL want a good path forward for their kids, regardless of politics.

As long as they’re obedient little droids while they’re at home.
/

88 Obdicut is an Obdislut apparently  Sat, May 18, 2013 7:42:15am

re: #84 A Mom Anon

Decent parents ALL want a good path forward for their kids, regardless of politics.

Sadly, there are a lot of parents out there who feel it’s more important to keep their kid ignorance about science than provide for their future.

There are a lot of really, really, really shitty and selfish or just inept parents.

89 darthstar  Sat, May 18, 2013 7:43:56am
90 Obdicut is an Obdislut apparently  Sat, May 18, 2013 7:45:33am

re: #86 Dark_Falcon

No, I don’t.

The administration and bureaucracy of schools has ballooned, while salaries for teachers have not risen significantly. The standardized tests mean that teachers have to teach to the test, rather than just teaching. What I am proposing would remove power from the administration and return it to the teachers, because instead of some top-down educational plan, the plans would be specific to the student, bottom-up, and restore dignity to the teaching profession. It’s actually a position ‘conservatives’ should endorse, but sadly the modern GOP shits on its own face when it hears the phrase ‘teachers union’ and blinds itself with bullshit.

There is a real problem with bloated bureaucracy in schools, but it’s not the teachers. The GOP rails against the wrong target while supporting the bureaucracy that’s the problem, because they’re the ones ‘in charge’ and the GOP loves authoritarianism.

91 darthstar  Sat, May 18, 2013 7:45:55am

re: #86 Dark_Falcon

No, I don’t.

That’s because UNION BAD BAD just like SOCIALIST BAD BAD.

AMERICA FUCK YEAH!

92 A Mom Anon  Sat, May 18, 2013 7:45:56am

re: #88 Bert’s House of Beef and Obdicuts

I know, but I doubt the kids feel the same, most kids are naturally curious and want to learn. They end up hating school because of boredom and apathy, and that part is not their fault. I don’t know what the answers are, but the system is falling apart and it’s not about fucking teacher’s unions, that’s for sure.

I’m getting pissy about this, sorry, I think I’ll go walk the doggie and clear my head. Have a good Saturday morning lizards.

93 Feline Fearless Leader  Sat, May 18, 2013 7:48:07am

How about doing a nice crossword?

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94 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 18, 2013 7:54:18am

re: #84 A Mom Anon

Socialization comes with being in social situations. Classrooms do provide some of that, and there would be more positive interactions in classrooms that had more hands on learning and project oriented assignments. Socialization seems to mean for some people at least, goofing off and yapping about what you saw on tv last night.

I totally believe that if you sat down liberal and conservative parents and just told them what the goal was, to better educate their kids and have a good end result without making it a fucking political team sport that there would be much disagreement regardless of politics. Anyone who says they don’t want their kid prepped for college or some sort of tech/vocational career path once they graduate is a lying sack of crap. Decent parents ALL want a good path forward for their kids, regardless of politics.

That has some truth to it, but the problem is that the politics are reflective of other issues as well. Liberals from Wisconsin might well look down on conservatives from Mississippi, thinking them hicks living in a backwards state, and that impulse to look down would lead them to denigrate the latter’s ideas. The Mississippians, for their part, would have their own reasons for hostility, though theirs would be less based on current circumstances and more based on “Your ancestors burned my ancestors’ farm down and took our livestock and slaves away!”.

The politics is only part of larger cultural conflicts.

95 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 18, 2013 7:56:42am

re: #91 darthstar

He asked a question and I gave an honest answer, that being that I did not understand his logic. It was an honest exchange, and you do yourself no credit attacking me for engaging in it.

96 Sionainn  Sat, May 18, 2013 8:00:30am

re: #94 Dark_Falcon

That has some truth to it, but the problem is that the politics are reflective of other issues as well. Liberals from Wisconsin might well look down on conservatives from Mississippi, thinking them hicks living in a backwards state, and that impulse to look down would lead them to denigrate the latter’s ideas. The Mississippians, for their part, would have their own reasons for hostility, though theirs would be less based on current circumstances and more based on “Your ancestors burned my ancestors’ farm down and took our livestock and slaves away!”.

The politics is only part of larger cultural conflicts.

What does that have to do with schools and educating our children?

97 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 18, 2013 8:01:57am

re: #96 Sionainn

What does that have to do with schools and educating our children?

It makes coming together to find solutions much harder.

98 Sionainn  Sat, May 18, 2013 8:05:23am

re: #97 Dark_Falcon

It makes coming together to find solutions much harder.

I don’t agree. It’s not political (or shouldn’t be) to figure out what children need to know and have teachers collaborate to figure out the best way for children to learn it.

99 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 18, 2013 8:08:50am

Good morning lizards!

I’ve had 5 people look at me house so far. I think one couple is very interested. I’ll keep my fingers crossed.

100 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 18, 2013 8:21:13am

A suicide that was most certainly not ‘painless’:

The chilling 911 call legendary NASCAR Dick Trickle made to a hapless 911 operator before he ended his own life with a self-inflicted gunshot wound was released today.

In the recording, Trickle matter-of-factly tells the female operator that he is at ‘the Forest Lawn Cemetery at 150.’ - where he was later found dead.

When the woman asks him for his name, he repeats the address, not once identifying himself as the racer who entertained generations with his extrovert driving skills.

Trickle says that he is ‘on the back side of it. By a ‘93 pickup. There’s gonna be a dead body..it’s suicide.’

The confused operator asks Trickle if he was there to witness one, but instead he chillingly responds with ‘I’m the one’.

Stunned, the woman pleads with Trickle, saying ‘listen to me’ but Trickle simply repeats ‘150 Forest LAwn in the back by a Ford pickup.’

Really, Trickle’s last act prior to killing himself was horrible. Because to borrow from the MASH theme song again, the 911 dispatcher who got his suicide call is likely to have “many changes” in her head from that experience, and she won’t be “free to take them or leave them” as she pleases.

101 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 18, 2013 8:35:05am

Huge Rock Crashes Into Moon, Sparks Giant Explosion

The moon has a new hole on its surface thanks to a boulder that slammed into it in March, creating the biggest explosion scientists have seen on the moon since they started monitoring it.

The meteorite crashed on March 17, slamming into the lunar surface at a mind-boggling 56,000 mph (90,000 kph) and creating a new crater 65 feet wide (20 meters). The crash sparked a bright flash of light that would have been visible to anyone looking at the moon at the time with the naked eye, NASA scientists say.

“On March 17, 2013, an object about the size of a small boulder hit the lunar surface in Mare Imbrium,” Bill Cooke of NASA’s Meteoroid Environment Office said in a statement. “It exploded in a flash nearly 10 times as bright as anything we’ve ever seen before.”

NASA astronomers have been monitoring the moon for lunar meteor impacts for the past eight years, and haven’t seen anything this powerful before.

102 sattv4u2  Sat, May 18, 2013 8:40:14am

re: #101 NJDhockeyfan

Huge Rock Crashes Into Moon, Sparks Giant Explosion

Not only that, but it killed the dinosaurs!

On the plus side, the Man In The Moon has a new cute dimple on his cheek!!

/

103 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 18, 2013 8:43:16am

re: #102 sattv4u2

Not only that, but it killed the dinosaurs!

On the plus side, the Man In The Moon has a new cute dimple on his cheek!!

/

It was only a foot wide. A rock that small would likely just burn up in Earth’s atmosphere and never make impact. If it did, it wouldn’t do much damage.

104 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 18, 2013 8:44:59am

re: #102 sattv4u2

Not only that, but it killed the dinosaurs!

On the plus side, the Man In The Moon has a new cute dimple on his cheek!!

/

There is another one about to pass by. This one is huge.

Dark, massive asteroid to fly by Earth on May 31

It’s 1.7 miles long. Its surface is covered in a sticky black substance similar to the gunk at the bottom of a barbecue. If it impacted Earth it would probably result in global extinction. Good thing it is just making a flyby.

Asteroid 1998 QE2 will make its closest pass to Earth on May 31 at 1:59 p.m. PDT.

Scientists are not sure where this unusually large space rock, which was discovered 15 years ago, originated from. But the mysterious sooty substance on its surface could indicate it may be the result of a comet that flew too close to the sun, said Amy Mainzer, who tracks near-Earth objects at Jet Propulsion Laboratory in La Cañada Flintridge. It might also have leaked out of the asteroid belt between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter, she said.

105 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 18, 2013 8:45:53am

re: #84 A Mom Anon

Socialization comes with being in social situations. Classrooms do provide some of that, and there would be more positive interactions in classrooms that had more hands on learning and project oriented assignments.

I had a big problem in school. I was bored to tears academically and they bumped me up a grade from second to third. I still got ribbed for being a bookworm and a nerd.

And then I hit junior high. then I, a late pubertizer at that, and totally socially inept.

It really took until grad school before I hit my stride and began to be able to successfully interact socially, and even then, it took no small effort on my part.

106 sattv4u2  Sat, May 18, 2013 8:47:56am

re: #103 Dark_Falcon

It was only a foot wide. A rock that small would likely just burn up in Earth’s atmosphere and never make impact. If it did, it wouldn’t do much damage.

What part of ” / ” confused you??

107 A Mom Anon  Sat, May 18, 2013 8:50:26am

re: #94 Dark_Falcon

People in Wisconsin have nothing to do with educational issues in Mississippi DF. You made this, once again, a political team sport and make A LOT Of sweeping generalizations here. While this should be a national discussion, it’s at its heart a local and state issue. That means I have to sit down with my conservative neighbors and try to hammer out solutions that have more to do with wanting what’s best for our kids than who we align with politically. And honestly, the parents who care don’t give a damn what letter comes after the politicians name when it comes to our kids. We want freaking results.

108 sattv4u2  Sat, May 18, 2013 8:52:38am

re: #107 A Mom Anon

the parents who care don’t give a damn what letter comes after the politicians name when it comes to our kids. We want freaking results.

A and MEN !!!

109 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 18, 2013 8:57:37am

True enough. Point Conceded.

110 A Mom Anon  Sat, May 18, 2013 8:58:02am

re: #105 Sol Berdinowitz

I had similar issues. I was lucky though, my parents and my teachers really encouraged me to read and study stuff that interested me independently, outside of school. I was kind of a social chameleon, since I didn’t really stand out, I kind of was able to blend in with nearly every social group except the jocks and cheerleaders. I was bullied, but the bullying then and now IS different, it’s become much more hateful, and I think many adults have chosen to ignore that.

I think there’s two things at play here. One is that the social world of teens is pretty much completely foreign to most adults and they dismiss it as silly and don’t do anything until it effects their kid. Something should be done to discourage the social caste system our schools help foster. The other thing is the teaching to the test and rote teaching methods too many schools fall back on because they are either afraid or unwilling to change. I have no idea what the answers are, this is a many layered problem and it’s going to take much work to make it better.

111 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 18, 2013 9:00:24am

BBT

112 A Mom Anon  Sat, May 18, 2013 9:04:34am

re: #110 A Mom Anon

One other thing too, kids cannot learn to the best of their potential if they do not feel safe and like someone cares how well they do and offers to help if they’re having problems. For some kids, school is the only constant in their lives, and if that’s the case, then more needs to be done to make sure that place truly fosters a sense of security.

We cannot fix lousy parents, too many of them don’t do their jobs and a whole classroom or school can suffer as a result. But, there are many parents who do care, and those parents should be embraced and supported by the school system.

113 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 18, 2013 9:08:40am
114 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, May 18, 2013 9:10:50am

As a kid I thought other kids hated me because I was ugly and stupid. My grades started to slide in grade 2 and the schools gave me several IQ, hearing and sight tests to find out why. Had they been more aware of autism and the bullying that went along with it, I would not have had problems develop then that affect me to this day.

115 sattv4u2  Sat, May 18, 2013 9:11:22am

re: #113 NJDhockeyfan

timesofisrael.com

116 122 Year Old Obama  Sat, May 18, 2013 9:12:31am

re: #114 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

As a kid I thought other kids hated me because I was ugly and stupid. My grades started to slide in grade 2 and the schools gave me several IQ, hearing and sight tests to find out why. Had they been more aware of autism and the bullying that went along with it, I would not have had problems develop then that affect me to this day.

This was pretty much my situation exactly. Except it was grade 7 for me.

Augh.

117 sattv4u2  Sat, May 18, 2013 9:13:02am

re: #114 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

because I was ugly and stupid

I’m one of those!!

(amongst those that know me, there is a difference of opinion on which one !!)
/

118 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 18, 2013 9:28:22am

re: #115 sattv4u2

timesofisrael.com

Assad figures he can continue to kill his people with chemical weapons because the rest of the world will just watch.

119 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 18, 2013 9:28:46am
120 Political Atheist  Sat, May 18, 2013 9:54:17am

Good Morning, Happy Saturday to all. It’s nice out around my geography…

121 sattv4u2  Sat, May 18, 2013 9:58:07am

re: #120 Political Atheist

Good Morning, Happy Saturday to all.
it’s nice out around my geography…

well, put it back in before you get arrested, ya pervert!!

122 Lidane  Sat, May 18, 2013 10:01:07am
123 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 18, 2013 10:02:36am

re: #122 Lidane

What does a mountaineering Burkha look like?

124 sattv4u2  Sat, May 18, 2013 10:06:36am

re: #123 Sol Berdinowitz

What does a mountaineering Burkha look like?

Think Burkha

Add lottsa goose down!
/

125 Lidane  Sat, May 18, 2013 10:09:33am

This guy sounds calm and rational:

126 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 18, 2013 10:13:05am
127 Iwouldprefernotto  Sat, May 18, 2013 10:14:12am

re: #125 Lidane

This guy sounds calm and rational:

Shot in the Vagina. What would Sigmund Freud think about this form of punishment?

128 efuseakay  Sat, May 18, 2013 10:14:53am

GO HAWKS!

129 FemNaziBitch  Sat, May 18, 2013 10:18:11am

Please!

Share you thoughts in the Pages.

LET ME MAKE THIS VERY CLEAR

The struggle over reproductive rights is NOT ABOUT POPULATION CONTROL. It is to secure the right to CHOOSE PARENTHOOD. Something each of us must have secured by law. Something each child deserves —TO BE WANTED.

Leave it to individuals and I guarantee, population will not be an issue. THE LAST thing needed is any group, government or church deciding who and who cannot have children in the name of “population control.”

130 FemNaziBitch  Sat, May 18, 2013 10:19:53am

re: #125 Lidane

This guy sounds calm and rational:

I think I posted that.

I couldn’t believe someone would think that much less say it.

131 Political Atheist  Sat, May 18, 2013 10:21:43am

re: #125 Lidane

Creepy disturbing nut ya found there.

132 stabby  Sat, May 18, 2013 10:22:45am
According to a recent Gallup poll, when asked whether they thought Attorney General Eric Holder should be fired over the Justice Department’s alleged wiretapping of AP journalists, 47 percent of Americans replied, “Okay, sure,” 38 percent told pollsters, “Um, yeah, why not,” and 64 percent responded, “Who?”

Nearly 96 percent of respondents said they just wanted to make it clear that they think that everything currently going on in Washington is definitely bad and shouldn’t be happening, unless all of it is actually okay, in which case they are fine with it.

“Is it wrong that the IRS unfairly targeted groups who opposed President Obama’s agenda? Uh, yes. I guess it is,” said Chicago-based real-estate broker Daniel Kiernan, 41. “To be perfectly frank, though, none of this stuff really affects me in any way whatsoever. That’s the God’s honest truth right there.”

“But if you want me to tell you that I’m angry, then fine, I’m angry,” Kiernan added. “I’m incredibly outraged over all this. It’s absolutely terrible and an affront to every single American citizen, and something needs to be done. Happy?”

—the Onion

133 Political Atheist  Sat, May 18, 2013 10:23:29am

Not sure if other states are this… um, thorough. Just took a look at the relevant vehicle code to see where I can put my gps and or cameras in the truck. Starting with the windshield after getting a good dash cam app yesterday for my cellphone.

dmv.ca.gov

134 FemNaziBitch  Sat, May 18, 2013 10:24:16am
135 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 18, 2013 10:25:10am

I didn’t know these scumbags had conventions.

136 FemNaziBitch  Sat, May 18, 2013 10:25:38am

re: #134 FemNaziBitch

Crowd Led by Priests Attacks Gay Rights Marchers in Georgia

The Country, not the State in the US.

137 sattv4u2  Sat, May 18, 2013 10:26:34am

re: #136 FemNaziBitch

The Country, not the State in the US.

Was just going to add that

ALSO ,,, not Catholic priests, but rather Georgian Orthodox Church

138 Iwouldprefernotto  Sat, May 18, 2013 10:28:08am

re: #137 sattv4u2

Was just going to add that

ALSO ,,, not Catholic priests, but rather Georgian Orthodox Church

So Georgia is the new Georgia. Got it.

139 FemNaziBitch  Sat, May 18, 2013 10:28:42am
140 Lidane  Sat, May 18, 2013 10:29:11am

re: #131 Political Atheist

Creepy disturbing nut ya found there.

I didn’t find him. Right Wing Watch did.

Yeah, the guy is crazier than a shithouse rat, but he gets people like Ted Nugent and Larry Pratt on his radio show, and they have people who follow them.

141 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 18, 2013 10:31:34am

France least tolerant country in Western Europe of homosexuals

The information which has been monitoring the political and moral attitudes of various countries for more than two decades, shows that countries with more economic freedom have higher degrees of tolerance.

France was the least tolerant country in Western Europe, with 28.8 per cent of the population responding that they would not want a homosexual neighbour. This contrasts with 3.6 per cent of Swedish people, 7.4 per cent of Spaniards and 11.1 per cent of Swiss. 16.8 per cent of British people would not want a homosexual neighbour.

There is a clear divide across the iron curtain, with homophobia much more common in Russia and Ukraine, while Serbia and Moldova were even less tolerant than majority Muslim Indonesia. Georgia, was the third most homophobic country surveyed, with 92.6 per cent of the population unhappy with the idea of a homosexual neighbour.

Muslim countries were among the most homophobic, with 19 out of 20 Jordanians unwilling to live near to homosexuals. Iran was close behind, with 93.2 per cent of the population intolerant. Despite their Catholic heritage, liberal attitudes predominate in Latin America, with Uruguay, Argentina and Guatemala more tolerant than some Western countries. Colombia was an outlier, with 45.9 per cent of the population unwilling to have a homosexual neighbour.

142 Romantic Heretic  Sat, May 18, 2013 10:31:57am

re: #11 klys

Aardvarks are just weird. End of discussion.

Not as weird as the naked mole-rat

143 stabby  Sat, May 18, 2013 10:36:31am

re: #140 Lidane

The quotes in that article are so extreme that I won’t put them here, people would be disturbed and the comment might get deleted.

Shooting Hillary in the vagina is just the beginning of Santilli’s fantasy.

Also that article about Georgia is horrible, but I can’t say anything about it that isn’t obvious except perhaps that it’s worse than what could happen in the American Georgia - American wingnuts probably wouldn’t try to kill people in a gay march.

144 stabby  Sat, May 18, 2013 10:38:34am

re: #141 NJDhockeyfan

There you go “Georgia, was the third most homophobic country surveyed, with 92.6 per cent of the population unhappy with the idea of a homosexual neighbour.”

Wow. Also “Go Sweden!”

145 Lidane  Sat, May 18, 2013 10:38:50am

re: #142 Romantic Heretic

Not as weird as the naked mole-rat

146 stabby  Sat, May 18, 2013 10:39:18am

They should do the same survey, asking people if they’d want to live next to a Jew.

147 stabby  Sat, May 18, 2013 10:39:39am

I bet the results would be similar.

148 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 18, 2013 10:42:21am

re: #147 stabby

I bet the results would be similar.

Agreed. There is lots of hate out there.

149 FemNaziBitch  Sat, May 18, 2013 10:43:51am

bb

150 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 18, 2013 10:46:13am

Monkey balls?

151 stabby  Sat, May 18, 2013 10:52:33am

re: #150 NJDhockeyfan

All I can say is that now I’m even LESS likely to google “monkey balls”

152 sattv4u2  Sat, May 18, 2013 10:57:38am

BLT with cheese on a toasted baguette

It’s what’s for lunch!

153 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 18, 2013 11:00:56am

Wishing I was in Chicago today…

154 wrenchwench  Sat, May 18, 2013 11:01:16am

re: #152 sattv4u2

BLT with cheese on a toasted baguette

It’s what’s for lunch!

I was just thinking yesterday, “I’m glad that burrito lady quit coming around, she was making me fat.” She showed up this morning and said she had been working for someone else, but couldn’t take it any more and went back to working for herself. But she’s gone from burritos to stuffed sopapillas. I don’t stand a chance against her.

155 sattv4u2  Sat, May 18, 2013 11:03:54am

re: #154 wrenchwench

I was just thinking yesterday, “I’m glad that burrito lady quit coming around, she was making me fat.” She showed up this morning and said she had been working for someone else, but couldn’t take it any more and went back to working for herself. But she’s gone from burritos to stuffed sopapillas. I don’t stand a chance against her.

Burrito Lady 1
Wrench Wench 0

156 A Mom Anon  Sat, May 18, 2013 11:08:20am

re: #135 NJDhockeyfan

Sieg Heil Ya’All. Not only do they find many friendly venues down here, there’s also more than a few businesses around the state that are little more than fronts for neo-nazis and their pals. I can think of one in particular, not too far from my house that never seems to sell anything, certainly not enough to keep the place in business for 40 or so years. It’s full of lovely pictures of lynchings and has a sign on the front door that says White History Year.

157 sattv4u2  Sat, May 18, 2013 11:11:53am

re: #154 wrenchwench

re: #155 sattv4u2

Burrito Lady 1
Wrench Wench 0

Okay

I tore through that BLT in no time flat. Problem is

A) I’m still kinda hungry
B) I’m still at work for another 9 hours

Could ya send the Burrito lady this way please

158 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 18, 2013 11:13:06am

re: #157 sattv4u2

re: #155 sattv4u2

Okay

I tore through that BLT in no time flat. Problem is

A) I’m still kinda hungry
B) I’m still at work for another 9 hours

Could ya send the Burrito lady this way please

159 wrenchwench  Sat, May 18, 2013 11:13:20am

re: #157 sattv4u2

re: #155 sattv4u2

Okay

I tore through that BLT in no time flat. Problem is

A) I’m still kinda hungry
B) I’m still at work for another 9 hours

Could ya send the Burrito lady this way please

That’s a long trip for a lady with a stroller.

160 allegro  Sat, May 18, 2013 11:13:49am

re: #154 wrenchwench

I was just thinking yesterday, “I’m glad that burrito lady quit coming around, she was making me fat.” She showed up this morning and said she had been working for someone else, but couldn’t take it any more and went back to working for herself. But she’s gone from burritos to stuffed sopapillas. I don’t stand a chance against her.

OOoo, tamales. Dammit, you just had to make me think of those and now I gotta call a former grad student’s aunt who makes the most delicious pulled pork tamales and green salsa. She speaks no English at all but when she hears my voice says, “Hola! Dos?” (meaning in our developed short-hand, 2 dozen) In a few hours, one of her offspring will show up at my door with these culinary treasures.

161 sattv4u2  Sat, May 18, 2013 11:14:29am

re: #159 wrenchwench

That’s a long trip for a lady with a stroller.

Stroller ,,,= ,, wheels

What part of HERE FOR ANOTHER 9 HOURS was unclear!?!?!

162 Lidane  Sat, May 18, 2013 11:15:33am

Blasphemy!

163 stabby  Sat, May 18, 2013 11:22:58am

Theatergoer praised as hero for smashing woman’s cellphone

Yep, the NRO creep. He’s a hero in his own writing. Msn considers praise on twitter worth writing about.

164 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 18, 2013 11:23:15am

re: #162 Lidane

Blasphemy!

there is no such thing as aroma-free bacon

165 blueraven  Sat, May 18, 2013 11:25:01am

So far, all these so called scandals don’t seem to be affecting Obama’s approval

Gallup 51/42

Rasmussen 48/50 (which is about average for the right leaning Ras)

166 blueraven  Sat, May 18, 2013 11:27:16am

re: #163 stabby

Theatergoer praised as hero for smashing woman’s cellphone

Yep, the NRO creep. He’s a hero in his own writing. Msn considers praise on twitter worth writing about.

I think they are both assholes. Dude should have let management handle it.

167 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 18, 2013 11:27:30am

re: #164 Sol Berdinowitz

there is no such thing as aroma-free bacon

I guess they won’t be buying this product anytime soon.

168 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 18, 2013 11:28:09am

re: #163 stabby

Theatergoer praised as hero for smashing woman’s cellphone

Yep, the NRO creep. He’s a hero in his own writing. Msn considers praise on twitter worth writing about.

Shame they weren’t both armed: an armed populace is a POLITE populace, right?

169 stabby  Sat, May 18, 2013 11:33:39am

news.msn.com

And they were just talking about guns…

CONCORD, N.H. — A New Hampshire lawmaker apologized Wednesday for referring to women as “vaginas” in an email to his House colleagues during a debate over repealing a law allowing people to use deadly force to defend themselves.

“There were two critical ingredients missing in the illustrious stories purporting to demonstrate the practical side of retreat. Not that retreat may not be possible mind you. What could possibly be missing from those factual tales of successful retreat in VT, Germany, and the bowels of Amsterdam? Why children and vagina’s of course. While the tales relate the actions of a solitary male the outcome cannot relate to similar situations where children and women and mothers are the potential victims,” Hansen wrote, according to messages posted online this week by liberal blogger Susan Bruce.

170 stabby  Sat, May 18, 2013 11:36:06am

What’s getting slipped into the Republicans’ water?

Golmert’s asperagus.. Peter Hansen suddenly says “vaginas” and “bowels of Amsterdam” in an email about home defense…

171 stabby  Sat, May 18, 2013 11:43:13am

Electronic cigarettes are interesting.
Some have no smell and seem to turn nicotine into a clean drug. (I’d argue it’s a useful drug for a few reasons but that’s a different topic).

But some are designed to appeal to smokers who LIKE smoke and they’ve captured the smell of normal cigarette smoke (it probably IS burnt tobacco they’ve made a tincture of) and they even release something that smells a little STRONGER than real cigarette smoke in their mist.

While you could imagine people saying that you don’t need the second hand smoke controls on the first kind (can you smoke those in restaurants?).. what about the second kind? Mist made from preserved smoke?

172 Targetpractice  Sat, May 18, 2013 11:44:10am

re: #165 blueraven

So far, all these so called scandals don’t seem to be affecting Obama’s approval

Gallup 51/42

Rasmussen 48/50 (which is about average for the right leaning Ras)

Not only are they roughly in the average range for a second-term president, they’ve also moved very little from where he was even two weeks ago.

It would seem that the media’s constant obsession with “scandalmania” is not translating into public disapproval.

173 bratwurst  Sat, May 18, 2013 11:45:25am
174 stabby  Sat, May 18, 2013 11:47:26am

re: #173 bratwurst

I hope Rob realizes that it’s a joke.

175 Obdicut is an Obdislut apparently  Sat, May 18, 2013 11:51:30am

re: #174 stabby

I hope Rob realizes that it’s a joke.

Are you being serious?

176 stabby  Sat, May 18, 2013 11:53:58am

re: #175 Bert’s House of Beef and Obdicuts

That’s some radical bike riding…

177 A Mom Anon  Sat, May 18, 2013 11:54:07am

re: #166 blueraven

On the Balloon Juice blog they debunked this whole thing because the play in question is not your standard sit in the audience and shut up kind of play.
Link

Williamson is full of shit.

edited to fix link

178 Obdicut is an Obdislut apparently  Sat, May 18, 2013 11:54:34am

re: #176 stabby

That’s some radical bike riding…

Yeah, Rob really clearly gets the joke. Let me put that to rest for you.

179 Obdicut is an Obdislut apparently  Sat, May 18, 2013 11:56:23am

re: #177 A Mom Anon

Your link isn’t working for me. Here’s a picture of the theater piece:

Image: 17NATASHA-articleLarge.jpg

And clearly, texting in that environment wouldn’t really be distracting.

180 stabby  Sat, May 18, 2013 11:56:41am

re: #177 A Mom Anon

server down.

181 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 18, 2013 11:57:04am

Greece has some severe problems there.

Golden Dawn MP Shouts ‘Heil Hitler!’ in Greek Parliament [VIDEO]

An MP from the neo-Nazi Golden Dawn party repeatedly shouted “Heil Hitler!” in the Greek parliament after barred for insulting a fellow lawmaker.

Panayiotis Iliopoulos was expelled for “cursing” about major opposition leader Alexis Tsipras, of the Coalition of the Radical Left (Syriza). He allegedly called fellow MPS “goats” and “filthy people”.

Ioannis Dragasakis, another Syriza member who was sitting as parliament’s speaker in place of Evangelos Meimarakis, told the Golden Dawn member to “go away”.

But Iliopoulos continued with his broadside of insults, calling other MPs “scoundrels”, according to Greek Reporter. When Dragasakis called the security to remove him, the Golden Dawn MP started shouting “Heil Hitler!” for three times, before leaving the room.

Under the Greek law, MPs are not allowed to engage in personal attacks against each other.

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Golden Dawn MP Shouts ‘Heil Hitler!’ in Greek Parliament [VIDEO]

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