Third Ricin Letter Sent to President Obama, With Gun-Crazy Message

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Following up on our story from last night about the ricin-laced letters sent to New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, a similar threatening letter has been intercepted on its way to President Obama: Third Letter Sent to President Obama, Similar to NY Mayor Ricin Letters: Officials.

The letter, first reported by NBC 4 New York, is being tested for ricin. It was received Wednesday at an off-site facility, and did not reach the White House, according to the Secret Service. …

The text of that mailing was identical to the letters sent to the mayor and his gun group, which threatened: “what’s in this letter is nothing compared to what I’ve got planned for you,” police and law enforcement sources said.

One letter was discovered at City Hall’s mail sorting facility at 100 Gold St. on Friday, a law enforcement source told NBC 4 New York. It appeared to contain a pink, oily substance when a mail worker came across it and was immediately flagged as suspicious.

An initial field test didn’t bring up any sign of ricin, a source said. But more preliminary testing Wednesday showed the letter tested positive for ricin. An identical letter containing ricin was sent to the Mayors Against Illegal Guns headquarters in Washington, D.C. and was opened on Monday, police said. …

According to law enforcement sources, the three similar threatening letters were postmarked May 20 in Shreveport, La. and sent without a return address or signature. Sources said the NYPD tried to pull fingerprints off the letter discovered at the city’s mail sorting site, but nothing usable was found. Authorities also plan to check for any possible DNA.

It wasn’t known if any viable forensic evidence was discovered on the letters sent to Washington or the White House. All three mailings read in part: “You will have to kill me and my family before you get my guns. Anyone wants to come to my house will get shot in the face. The right to bear arms is my constitutional God given right and I will exercise that right till the day I die.”

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314 comments
1 erik_t  Thu, May 30, 2013 11:49:53am
constitutional God given right

Which is it? The Bill of Rights is a human construct, bud.

2 jaunte  Thu, May 30, 2013 11:51:18am

Second-and-a-half amendment: Face-shooting political opponents.

3 Kragar  Thu, May 30, 2013 11:53:15am

If ricin letters are outlawed, only outlaws will have ricin letters.
/

4 GunstarGreen  Thu, May 30, 2013 11:53:55am

The only thing that stops a bad guy with a ricin letter, is a good guy with a ricin letter.

5 aagcobb  Thu, May 30, 2013 11:54:13am

re: #1 erik_t

Which is it? The Bill of Rights is a human construct, bud.

But its based on the fact that God gave Adam a gun. Science!

6 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 30, 2013 11:54:38am

Wingnuts are seething:

7 Charles Johnson  Thu, May 30, 2013 11:55:34am

Pretty sure that if I check right wing blogs I’ll find lots and lots of comments saying this is a false flag liberal operation to make them look bad.

8 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 30, 2013 11:55:46am
9 Mattand  Thu, May 30, 2013 11:55:53am

According to our pal Wargala from two threads back, Obama and Bloomberg had it coming.

Sorry, just got done ripping he/she/it another one. I cannot honestly believe that people can all but endorse political assassination as a rational course of action.

10 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 30, 2013 11:56:00am
11 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 30, 2013 11:56:29am

Could this be Wargula?

12 Charles Johnson  Thu, May 30, 2013 11:56:34am

Yup.

13 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 30, 2013 11:56:52am
14 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 11:57:14am

re: #9 Mattand

According to our pal Wargala from two threads back, Obama and Bloomberg had it coming.

Sorry, just got done ripping he/she/it another one. I cannot honestly believe that people can all but endorse political assassination as a rational course of action.

Political assassination because every man has their breaking point, presumably related to guns = good.

Political violence by Muslims = terrorism.

I just can’t even.

15 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 30, 2013 11:57:29am
16 Kragar  Thu, May 30, 2013 11:57:58am

re: #5 aagcobb

But its based on the fact that God gave Adam a gun. Science!

Jesus once talked about swords, which means he wants everyone now to carry a drum fed assault rifle with them at all times.

17 jaunte  Thu, May 30, 2013 11:58:10am

Ur rights to Freefoam speling R thretenned!

18 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 30, 2013 11:58:40am
19 erik_t  Thu, May 30, 2013 11:59:11am

re: #8 Vicious Babushka

@nonsumdignus The ricin letters were probably sent by some #left fanatics who want 2make #2ndamendment proponents look bad :(! #liberals #gunrights #tcot

Oh, honey, I don’t think you need any help.

20 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:00:15pm

Wingnuts are convinced that it’s a “false flag” made up by “librulz” to make “Tea party look bad.” Because a REAL TEA PARTIER would just SHOOT!!11!! Oh wait…

21 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:00:20pm

re: #8 Vicious Babushka

I thought I was only kidding when I said someone would do that. Really, sorry wingnuts but we have better things to do than make you look bad. You guys do a great job all by yourselves so why would we help you?

22 Kragar  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:00:29pm

re: #8 Vicious Babushka

Does anyone actually think the gun nuts need help to make them look bad?

23 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:00:48pm

re: #11 Vicious Babushka

Has the rhetoric down pat.

24 lawhawk  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:00:57pm

The same kind of people who have no problems coming up with some manner of conspiracy theory to claim that Newtown was part of some government conspiracy to foist gun control and confiscation on the public will have absolutely no problem pushing a similar conspiracy theory that Obama and the government is creating false flag operations or simulating terrorist/attempted assassination attacks against government officials including the President himself, as a means to delegitimize the pro-gun lobby, right wing nutters, and the NRA in order to foist gun control and confiscation.

A segment of the population has no problem with assassinations and terrorism, and the extremists are getting bolder and bolder.

25 GunstarGreen  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:01:06pm

re: #9 Mattand

According to our pal Wargala from two threads back, Obama and Bloomberg had it coming.

Sorry, just got done ripping he/she/it another one. I cannot honestly believe that people can all but endorse political assassination as a rational course of action.

“If we don’t win at the ballot box, what will be the next step?”
“I’m hoping that we’re not getting to Second Amendment remedies. I hope that the vote will be the cure for the Harry Reid problems.”

— Sharon Angle, Nevada Assemblywoman

26 Mattand  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:01:23pm

re: #14 klys and whatnot

Political assassination because every man has their breaking point, presumably related to guns = good.

Political violence by Muslims = terrorism.

I just can’t even.

I never even made that connection until you just pointed out. The old “One person’s terrorist is another’s freedom fighter” meme.

Sorry to rant, but I’ve just been so frustrated with many of my countrymen’s reaction to electing a black man president. And let’s be honest, this is what’s at the heart of most of this.

It’s the same bullshit as people who call the Civil War “The War of Northern Aggression”. They’re in denial about the root cause of a problem.

EDIT: After re-reading that last paragraph, I’m not really sure I’m making my point clearly.

27 Kragar  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:03:25pm

Eagle Forum Rallies Anti-Immigrant Activists; Caller Suggests Shooting Senator

With immigration reform moving toward a vote in the Senate, anti-immigrant forces are ratcheting up their rhetoric. On Wednesday night, Eagle Forum hosted an “emergency” phone briefing intended to spur grassroots lobbying by their activists. It featured dire warnings about the Senate bill spelling doom for America, attacks on pro-reform Sen. Marco Rubio, and a joking suggestion that activists planning a visit to Sen. Susan Collins’ office “shoot her.”

28 Varek Raith  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:04:08pm

…Morons.
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29 chadu  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:04:29pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

Pretty sure that if I check right wing blogs I’ll find lots and lots of comments saying this is a false flag liberal operation to make them look bad.

Them libruls spend so much time on false flag operations I’m confused how they manage them flag operations. Prolly APBenchaziIRS gay commie Mooslim powers!

30 Kragar  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:05:57pm

re: #28 Varek Raith

…Morons.
Image: donilon-ff-53013.jpg

Wait a second…

WHERE THE FUCK WAS BOLTON WHEN BENGHAZI WAS GOING ON?

We need to drag him before Congress to explain himself.

31 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:06:14pm

Doubling down on Teh Stupid

32 Targetpractice  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:07:10pm

If they truly believe it’s a liberal sending letters to make Tea Partiers look bad, wouldn’t that make them all the more adamant to hunt down the responsible parties?

33 Kragar  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:07:16pm

White guy snaps = Lone wolf, no ties to anyone, a liberal plant

Anyone else snaps = trained terrorist, part of a global plot, can’t trust any of them

34 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:08:15pm

re: #31 Vicious Babushka

Doubling down on Teh Stupid

He refers to the Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood.

Here’s their board of directors.

35 iossarian  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:08:31pm

re: #33 Kragar

White guy snaps = Lone wolf, no ties to anyone, a liberal plant

Anyone else snaps = trained terrorist, part of a global plot, can’t trust any of them

WHERE ARE THE MODERATE WINGNUTS SPEAKING OUT AGAINST THIS???

36 lawhawk  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:08:43pm

re: #26 Mattand

And that just jogged my memory of reading about how right wingers are complaining that the media is giving Obama a pass on X,Y, and Z issues because of the bigotry of low/no expectations because racism.

Except that the reason that Obama isn’t getting anything accomplished is that the right wing/socon/GOP/tea Party is obstructionist at its core - and committed to thwarting any action on any issue, even if the GOP has expressed support for the issue previously.

I’m also reading that some people are criticizing Obama because he isn’t getting judicial nominees confirmed. Umm… that’s Obama’s fault? The GOP is looking to wait Obama out and hope that a GOPer can be the next president. They’re doing everything imaginable to prevent judicial nominees from being confirmed, or even getting recess appointments by hook and crook.

37 Kragar  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:09:10pm

Its funny how anyone who actually put the wingnuts thoughts into action suddenly isn’t one of them anymore.

38 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:09:25pm

re: #32 Targetpractice

If they truly believe it’s a liberal sending letters to make Tea Partiers look bad, wouldn’t that make them all the more adamant to hunt down the responsible parties?

Ah logic. Never one of their strong suits.

39 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:09:54pm

Nothing says objectivism and going Galt like a dark ages Christian organization.

40 Kragar  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:11:51pm

The same guys who say they’ll shoot anyone who comes for their guns will be the first ones to claim a guy who shoots a cop is a liberal plant to make them look bad.

41 iossarian  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:12:55pm

re: #37 Kragar

Its funny how anyone who actually put the wingnuts thoughts into action suddenly isn’t one of them anymore.

That’s why the RedNationRising thing is such a joke. If people actually step out of line and do something radical it’s all “not a real wingnut”.

It’s what you get when you combine a manufactured distrust of (non-Republican) government with a deeply authoritarian worldview. Quite weird.

42 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:13:26pm

re: #40 Kragar

The same guys who say they’ll shoot anyone who comes for their guns will be the first ones to claim a guy who shoots a cop is a liberal plant to make them look bad.

They have been retweeting a stupid debunked myth that all mass shooting sprees have been committed by “LIBRUL DEMOCRATS!!11!!”

43 jaunte  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:14:16pm

re: #41 iossarian

“RedNationRising” = “Don’t you dare privatize the TVA!!!”

44 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:14:25pm

Cults.

45 chadu  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:15:12pm

re: #38 HappyWarrior

Ah logic. Never one of their strong suits.

FTFY.

I’m convinced that Obama “Presidenting While Black” has unhinged the RWNJs so much down deep inside, that they are actively compartmentalizing their thoughts/beliefs and embrace illogic/alogic, because it makes them feel good and/or righteous.

46 Kragar  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:16:05pm

re: #42 Vicious Babushka

They have been retweeting a stupid debunked myth that all mass shooting sprees have been committed by “LIBRUL DEMOCRATS!!11!!”

It truly is amazing. They think they’ll have a glorious revolution because they will easily be able to take out a bunch of unarmed peacenik hippie liberals, all in the name of protecting themselves from violent gun toting liberals and brutal militant homosexuals.

47 Dr Lizardo  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:16:42pm

re: #46 Kragar

It truly is amazing. They think they’ll have a glorious revolution because they will easily be able to take out a bunch of unarmed peacenik hippie liberals, all in the name of protecting themselves from violent gun toting liberals and brutal militant homosexuals.

Epic cognitive dissonance.

48 Dr. Matt  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:17:56pm
49 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:19:16pm

Obviously the solution is to deport all the Gun nuts.

50 Kragar  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:19:19pm

re: #48 Dr. Matt

lol

51 Kragar  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:19:40pm

re: #49 Eclectic Cyborg

Obviously the solution is to deport all the Gun nuts.

We can send them all to their homeland.

52 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:20:59pm

DERP

53 Dr Lizardo  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:21:28pm

re: #51 Kragar

We can send them all to their homeland Mars.

FTFY.

54 Kragar  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:22:11pm

re: #53 Dr Lizardo

FTFY.

No. Mars belong to me, I don’t want gun nuts fucking it up.

55 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:23:37pm

OFFS

57 Kragar  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:25:06pm

re: #55 Vicious Babushka

OFFS

Where did the goalposts go? I swear they were over here a minute ago.

58 Dr Lizardo  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:26:36pm

re: #54 Kragar

No. Mars belong to me, I don’t want gun nuts fucking it up.

OK. Beta Pictoris b, then. 63 light years distant. Seems like a nice place; the wingnuts should love it.

en.wikipedia.org

59 Kragar  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:29:51pm

Utah top gun lobbyist arrested for threatening ex-wife with ‘Zombie Response Vehicle’

One of Utah’s top gun lobbyists was arrested this week after he allegedly used a 2.5-ton Army surplus vehicle to threaten the lives of his ex-wife’s family, but his lawyer insisted that he was simply “having fun in his big boy toy.”

According to a KTSU report, Utah Shooting Sports Council Chairman Clark Aposhian was arrested by Salt Lake police on Monday for domestic violence. If Aposhian is convicted, he would have to give up his arsenal of weapons and possibly his job as chairman.
…
Video of Aposhian’s M35 Army surplus truck — often referred to as a “deuce and a half” — showed that he spray-painted the words “CTWD HGTS NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH” and “ZOMBIE RESPONSE VEHICLE” on the side. Salon noted earlier this year that gun owners seemed to have an obsession with zombies. The National Rifle Association’s (NRA) conference earlier this month feature zombie targets resembling President Barack Obama and an “ex-girlfriend” that actually bleed when shot. And the NRA has even picked “Zombieland” as one of “Coolest Gun Movies.”

Aposhian’s attorney, Mitch Vilos, told The Salt Lake Tribune on Wednesday that his client was “having fun in his big boy toy.”

60 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:31:59pm

re: #59 Kragar

Nope, no need for background checks here. Not at all.

61 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:32:57pm

re: #59 Kragar

…”Big boy toy”…

Really?

62 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:34:15pm
63 Kragar  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:37:49pm

Barton: ‘You Can’t Drink Starbucks and be Biblically Right’

in this case, a pronouncement that Christians cannot drink Starbucks coffee because the company supports marriage equality.

“Biblically, there is no way a Christian can help support what is attacking God,” Barton said, adding “I’m sorry, you’ve got to find some other coffee to drink. You can’t drink Starbucks and be biblically right on this thing. It’s just a real simple principle”:

64 sffilk  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:38:04pm

The one question I have with regards to all these letters: is the “person” sending them a member in good standing of the NRA?

65 jaunte  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:38:56pm

re: #62 Gus

“God told me you have to change to please me. It is written.”

66 Kragar  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:39:03pm

re: #63 Kragar

Barton: ‘You Can’t Drink Starbucks and be Biblically Right’

Next up, you can’t drive a Ford, use an Apple product, or Google and be biblically right.

67 Lidane  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:39:31pm

re: #63 Kragar

Barton: ‘You Can’t Drink Starbucks and be Biblically Right’

Good. That means the line will be shorter when I get in the mood for a vanilla Caffè Americano.

68 steve_davis  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:40:08pm

re: #4 GunstarGreen

The only thing that stops a bad guy with a ricin letter, is a good guy with a ricin letter.

Uncle Ben’s Wild Ricin. For some reason, this is no longer available on store shelves.

69 wrenchwench  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:40:27pm

re: #66 Kragar

Next up, you can’t drive a Ford, use an Apple product, or Google and be biblically right.

Next, you can’t live in the USA because DOMA is repealed.

70 Kragar  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:40:46pm

Suddenly, Elvis Costello

Youtube Video

71 Lidane  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:41:19pm

re: #55 Vicious Babushka

72 aagcobb  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:41:30pm

re: #66 Kragar

Next up, you can’t drive a Ford, use an Apple product, or Google and be biblically right.

Walmart is going to be awfully empty when Barton tells his sheep they can’t buy anything made in Communist China, right David?

73 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:42:11pm

re: #5 aagcobb

But its based on the fact that God gave Adam a gun. Science!

You kid, but that’s exactly what it says in the Book of Armaments. I checked.

74 Varek Raith  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:44:11pm

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75 Ian G.  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:44:47pm

re: #59 Kragar

Utah top gun lobbyist arrested for threatening ex-wife with ‘Zombie Response Vehicle’

As a white male American, I apologize for the other white male Americans who feel the need for 2.5 ton army surplus vehicles (or assault rifles) in order to prove their masculinity. I’ll stick with assembling large pieces of furniture, and helping women carry strollers down the subway stairs as ways of affirming my masculinity.

76 Dr Lizardo  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:45:30pm

re: #63 Kragar

Barton: ‘You Can’t Drink Starbucks and be Biblically Right’

Mullah Barton expounds on his latest fatwa.

77 Bulworth  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:46:31pm

re: #76 Dr Lizardo

BartonFischerErickson are completely different than Taliban fundies because.

/

78 Ian G.  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:46:49pm

re: #76 Dr Lizardo

Mullah Barton expounds on his latest fatwa.

Seriously. Barton sounds like some official in the Iranian government with this idiocy.

79 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:46:59pm

re: #77 Bulworth

BartonFischerErickson are completely different than Taliban fundies because.

/

… Jesus!

80 Varek Raith  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:47:21pm

Ain’t called the American Taliban for nothin’!
;)

81 Dr Lizardo  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:48:23pm

re: #78 Ian G.

Seriously. Barton sounds like some official in the Iranian government with this idiocy.

I doubt he possesses the capacity for self-awareness to realize this.

82 Kragar  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:48:28pm

re: #78 Ian G.

Seriously. Barton sounds like some official in the Iranian government with this idiocy.

The man Mike Huckabee thinks all Americans should listen to, even if they have to be forced to at gunpoint.

Mike Huckabee Wants Every American To Be ‘Forced At Gun Point’ To Learn From Radical Historian

83 Bulworth  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:48:57pm

re: #52 Vicious Babushka

Science!

/

84 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:50:32pm
85 Lidane  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:50:42pm
87 Political Atheist  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:51:03pm

re: #4 GunstarGreen

The only thing that stops a bad guy with a ricin letter, is a good guy with a ricin letter.

Universal registration for all castor bean buyers! 10 day cooling off period?
J/K

88 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:52:13pm

re: #63 Kragar

Guess you can’t shop at these stores as well.

15 Major Brands That Unabashedly Support Gay Marriage

89 jaunte  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:55:12pm

re: #85 Lidane

Trolling is the default business model for conservative pundits.

90 Eventual Carrion  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:55:47pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

Pretty sure that if I check right wing blogs I’ll find lots and lots of comments saying this is a false flag liberal operation to make them look bad.

Yeah, all that talk of watering the tree, not letting him make it through his term, should be taken out before destroying the country, don’t retreat reload, etc. Who could think one of them would send something like that in the mail. Jeez.

91 Kragar  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:56:10pm

re: #88 Bubblehead II

Guess you can’t shop at these stores as well.

15 Major Brands That Unabashedly Support Gay Marriage

OK, all you people who want to be biblically right. Off the internet or God will punish you.

92 erik_t  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:56:44pm

re: #88 Bubblehead II

Guess you can’t shop at these stores as well.

Or, perhaps, go to Illinois (great orange satan warning):

SPRINGFIELD — In what will be seen as a historic moment in LGBT history, House lawmakers are expected to finally decide on a bill that would legalize same-sex marriage on Thursday or Friday—potentially making Illinois the 13th state to recognize gay and lesbian nuptials.
After months of intense lobbying by both sides of the issue and a clock ticking down to the end of the session Friday, the bill’s chief sponsor Rep. Greg Harris (D-Chicago) and other proponents of the measure are poised to bring victory to the LGBT community—that is if Harris has secured the 60 votes required for it to pass, as he has suggested.

93 jaunte  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:57:24pm

re: #91 Kragar

“God knows that’s not a mouse you’re touching.”

94 Jolo5309  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:58:02pm

re: #40 Kragar

The same guys who say they’ll shoot anyone who comes for their guns will be the first ones to claim a guy who shoots a cop is a liberal plant to make them look bad.

It is the “No true wingnut” fallacy

95 Lidane  Thu, May 30, 2013 12:58:19pm
96 Eventual Carrion  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:00:59pm

re: #27 Kragar

Eagle Forum Rallies Anti-Immigrant Activists; Caller Suggests Shooting Senator

But see that is shooting, not sending a letter. You can’t water the tree if you don’t first shoot a few holes in the water container.

//

97 Charles Johnson  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:04:54pm

re: #84 Gus

OK, that made me snicker.

98 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:07:41pm

Whelp, guy I watch on Mondays is having really bad time:

His Dad has COPD. :(

Prayers is really all I can do.

99 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:07:50pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

OK, that made me snicker.

Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard.
Leviticus 19:27

100 Varek Raith  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:08:53pm

re: #99 Gus

Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard.
Leviticus 19:27

Srsly?
XD

101 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:09:48pm

re: #100 Varek Raith

Srsly?
XD

That’s about it. Not like anyone was shaving back then. That’s just in the movies. :D

102 Dr Lizardo  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:10:22pm

re: #100 Varek Raith

Srsly?
XD

Yep. Seriously. One of the reason you’ll also see Muslim guys wear beards as well.

Well, not ALL, of course - I know plenty of clean-shaven Muslim fellows.

103 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:11:03pm

re: #98 ProTARDISLiberal

Whelp, guy I watch on Mondays is having really bad time:

His Dad has COPD. :(

Prayers is really all I can do.

There’s a lot of times where all we can do is pray/think of someone and let them know we are doing so - people often draw comfort knowing that others are thinking of them in whatever way.

Tomorrow marks the tenth anniversary of one of my closest friend’s death in a car accident. I need to find her parents’ e-mail address today and just send a note, because I know it helps them to know we remember her - and them - too.

104 Varek Raith  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:13:41pm

Such silliness that you must follow lest you bring the hammer of God on your ass.

105 Dr. Matt  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:14:33pm

Daily Caller + Racism = deleted tweet

106 Varek Raith  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:15:42pm

re: #105 Dr. Matt

Daily Caller + Racism = deleted tweet

Wow…
urbandictionary.com

107 Lidane  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:17:53pm

re: #105 Dr. Matt

108 Lidane  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:20:04pm

What’s a Supremacy Clause? Maybe Judge Napolitano will tell me:

109 jaunte  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:20:45pm

re: #105 Dr. Matt

110 Dr Lizardo  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:20:47pm

re: #107 Lidane

IT’S TOTALLY UNFAIR THAT WE CONSERVATIVES CAN’T CALL BLACK PEOPLE N*****S!!

111 jaunte  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:21:33pm
112 Timothy Watson  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:21:55pm

I haven’t seen a single right-wing/conservative organization denounce these assassination attempts, which obviously means that each and every conservative and Republican supports them.

SWIDT?

113 engineer cat  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:22:31pm

Anyone wants to come to my house will get shot in the face

i tried that but people came over for the party anyway

114 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:24:34pm

RDA likely cancelled for next week.

115 Lidane  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:25:36pm
116 engineer cat  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:25:44pm

mar the corners of thy beard

if you really want to see fundies stutter, ask them 1) where you can go to look up which passages of the old testament are God’s Law and which can be Completely Ignored, and 2) who was it that got to decide that in the first place

117 engineer cat  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:30:27pm

When you look at biology

Erick Erickson Looked At Biology Today

will submit book report tomorrow at latest he promises

118 Bulworth  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:31:47pm

re: #110 Dr Lizardo

The only thing racist about our tweet/blog/sign/mission statement/commenters/Facebook post is all you people calling it racism!!11!!

119 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:31:52pm

How pro-life of them:

Salvadoran Supreme Court denies woman a medically necessary abortion

120 Varek Raith  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:34:43pm

Gee, Erik, a quick google search shows lots of matriarchal species in the animal kingdom.

121 Dr Lizardo  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:34:49pm

re: #116 engineer cat

mar the corners of thy beard

if you really want to see fundies stutter, ask them 1) where you can go to look up which passages of the old testament are God’s Law and which can be Completely Ignored, and 2) who was it that got to decide that in the first place

I’m pretty sure it was St. Paul that decided that Christians could eat pork, because otherwise there was no way the pagans/gentiles were going to convert - along with circumcision not being necessary - but I’ve often wondered, what’s the theological justification for it? I mean, really, I just can’t picture Jesus [as] tucking into a BLT or a ham and swiss on rye.

122 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:34:58pm

re: #62 Gus

Fixed: Here’s the board of directors from the group that Erick Erickson gets his gender “science” from. pic.twitter.com/1SRV5a4srs

You left off the turbans.

123 Dr Lizardo  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:35:27pm

re: #118 Bulworth

And that, sadly, is their utterly twisted and depraved logic.

124 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:37:40pm
125 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:38:20pm

re: #121 Dr Lizardo

I’m pretty sure it was St. Paul that decided that Christians could eat pork, because otherwise there was no way the pagans/gentiles were going to convert - along with circumcision not being necessary - but I’ve often wondered, what’s the theological justification for it? I mean, really, I just can’t picture Jesus [as] tucking into a BLT or a ham and swiss on rye.

As I understand it, it had to do with the inapplicability of the Mosaic Law to gentiles. Paul was adamant that it was not just unnecessary, but actually wrong for gentiles to follow the Law, because it had not been given to them in the first place, and they might get the idea that it was following the Law that conferred salvation, rather than believing in Jesus’ sacrifice.

126 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:38:42pm

re: #124 Gus

Ah, now I understand. Thanks for the cogent explanation.

127 Dr. Matt  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:39:03pm

re: #120 Varek Raith

Gee, Erik, a quick google search shows lots of matriarchal species in the animal kingdom.

Grow up with an Italian mother. Nuff said.

128 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:39:10pm
129 Kragar  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:39:21pm

Southern Baptist Leader Equates Homosexuality with Cancer

LifeSiteNews posted a column today by Southern Baptist leader Al Mohler in which he equated homosexuality with cancer: “They argue that to tell a homosexual he is a sinner is uncompassionate and intolerant. This is like arguing that a physician is intolerant because he tells a patient she has cancer.”

Mohler writes that “there is no compassion in such a deadly deception,” referring to attempts by some churches and schools to, in his words, “promote homosexuality as a legitimate and attractive lifestyle option.”

130 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:39:39pm

Women in Combat
By Erick

Can I just say I am in favor of women in combat as long as it involves nakedness, Heidi Klum, and Elle McPherson? I’m very much in favor of that. I’ll determine who is “The Body.” I’m happy to help.

131 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:40:26pm
132 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:41:00pm
133 Bulworth  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:41:06pm

re: #130 Gus

“Oh that, I was just kidding. Can’t you libs take a friggin joke? Also, too: why are you smearing me by quoting my own words back to me?”

134 iossarian  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:41:10pm

re: #120 Varek Raith

Gee, Erik, a quick google search shows lots of matriarchal species in the animal kingdom.

Yeah but everyone knows about lions so I went with them.

/8th grade biology “report”

135 engineer cat  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:41:10pm

re: #125 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

As I understand it, it had to do with the inapplicability of the Mosaic Law to gentiles. Paul was adamant that it was not just unnecessary, but actually wrong for gentiles to follow the Law, because it had not been given to them in the first place, and they might get the idea that it was following the Law that conferred salvation, rather than believing in Jesus’ sacrifice.

do you know where that can be found in the NT or some other church documentation?

136 Dr Lizardo  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:41:30pm

And now, the greatest wedding photo ever.

Image: article-2333334-1A0E8CE7000005DC-261_964x616.jpg

137 lawhawk  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:41:44pm

Misogynists gotta be misogynistic.

138 iossarian  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:41:59pm

re: #130 Gus

Women in Combat
By Erick

That’s fantastic.

What a Christian!

139 Dr Lizardo  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:42:33pm

re: #125 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

As I understand it, it had to do with the inapplicability of the Mosaic Law to gentiles. Paul was adamant that it was not just unnecessary, but actually wrong for gentiles to follow the Law, because it had not been given to them in the first place, and they might get the idea that it was following the Law that conferred salvation, rather than believing in Jesus’ sacrifice.

OK. That makes sense, actually, and within context, it works.

140 jaunte  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:43:01pm
“That’s what the feminazis were enraged over? Seriously?!? Wow. That’s what being too ugly to get a date does to your brain”

Glass houses, man.

141 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:43:10pm

re: #130 Gus

Geez, what a creep.

142 iossarian  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:43:11pm

re: #136 Dr Lizardo

And now, the greatest wedding photo ever.

Image: article-2333334-1A0E8CE7000005DC-261_964x616.jpg

Whoah. That’s a big wedding party, with some serious matchy-matchiness going on. Love the cowboy boots on the second cheerleader bridesmaid from the right.

143 EPR-radar  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:43:23pm

re: #119 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

How pro-life of them:

Salvadoran Supreme Court denies woman a medically necessary abortion

If a just God existed and manifested itself, then every time a woman in El Salvador died as a result of their abortion laws, an appropriately chosen senior cleric or judge would be vaporized by lightning from a clear sky.

144 jaunte  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:43:24pm

Image: File:Erick_Erickson_by_Gage_Skidmore.jpg

145 Bulworth  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:43:29pm

re: #129 Kragar

Not big on the dignity of every human life, are we, Lifesitenews?

146 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:43:57pm

re: #137 lawhawk

Misogynists gonna misogynate.

147 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:44:08pm

re: #99 Gus

Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard.
Leviticus 19:27

Like these guys?

148 jaunte  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:44:54pm

Hotty.
Image: 220px-Erick_Erickson_by_Gage_Skidmore.jpg

149 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:45:27pm

re: #148 jaunte

Hotty.
Image: 220px-Erick_Erickson_by_Gage_Skidmore.jpg

He looks like Todd Kincannon. Seekrit twins?

150 Lidane  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:45:31pm

Cue the ZOMG AGENDA 21 bleating in 3…2…1…

151 Dr. Matt  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:46:28pm

re: #148 jaunte

Hotty.
Image: 220px-Erick_Erickson_by_Gage_Skidmore.jpg

That has ‘Derp’ written all over it.

152 jaunte  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:46:53pm

re: #149 Vicious Babushka

High pork and grits diet.

153 Lidane  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:48:29pm

Mental health break:

154 Varek Raith  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:49:22pm

re: #153 Lidane

Mental health break:

My mind!

155 Jolo5309  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:49:59pm

re: #105 Dr. Matt

Daily Caller + Racism = deleted tweet

HNIC = Hockey Night In Canada

Colour me confused

156 Varek Raith  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:50:52pm

re: #155 Jolo5309

HNIC = Hockey Night In Canada

Colour me confused

re: #106 Varek Raith

Wow…
urbandictionary.com

Explains it.

157 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:51:28pm

re: #155 Jolo5309

HNIC = Hockey Night In Canada

Colour me confused

Isn’t that just every night?

158 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:51:53pm

Temp job opening that probably will pull in a bunch of wingnut weekend warrior types.

OPPOSING FORCE ROLES FOR NATIONAL GUARD TRAINING - URGENT NEED!

From the job description

You will be handling blank firing weapons systems

159 Varek Raith  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:52:01pm

re: #157 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Isn’t that just every night?

If the day ends in y….

160 Varek Raith  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:52:39pm

re: #158 Bubblehead II

Temp job opening that probably will pull in a bunch of wingnut weekend warrior types.

OPPOSING FORCE ROLES FOR NATIONAL GUARD TRAINING - URGENT NEED!

From the job description

You will be handling blank firing weapons systems

Sounds fun.

161 iossarian  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:53:04pm

re: #158 Bubblehead II

Temp job opening that probably will pull in a bunch of wingnut weekend warrior types.

OPPOSING FORCE ROLES FOR NATIONAL GUARD TRAINING - URGENT NEED!

From the job description

You will be handling blank firing weapons systems

Omitted part of the job ad:

“The National Guard will be handling live firing weapons systems.”

162 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:54:36pm

re: #160 Varek Raith

Sounds fun.

You must be 18 years of age or older, can take direction, and be physically able to withstand rigorous 12 hour days outdoors to be eligible.

Yeah, right.

163 GunstarGreen  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:54:43pm

re: #129 Kragar

Southern Baptist Leader Equates Homosexuality with Cancer

In fairness, it is not possible to be simultaneously gay and christian without some serious cognitive dissonance. Leviticus 20:13 clearly and unequivocally states that God commands you to kill homosexuals. Even if you’re practicing one of the flavors of christianity that believes it’s okay to ignore the inconvenient parts of the old testament’s laws, the fact remains that at some point god said it was not only permissible, but required that homosexual people be murdered. Him saying “j/k gay people are totally cool” some time later doesn’t change that fact, and I for one cannot imagine worshiping a deity that at one point would have commanded his followers to kill me.

164 Varek Raith  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:55:23pm

re: #162 Bubblehead II

You must be 18 years of age or older, can take direction, and be physically able to withstand rigorous 12 hour days outdoors to be eligible.

Yeah, right.

I am Sith.
Easy.

165 Lidane  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:57:36pm

re: #136 Dr Lizardo

And now, the greatest wedding photo ever.

Image: article-2333334-1A0E8CE7000005DC-261_964x616.jpg

Needs more raptors.

166 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:58:48pm

re: #135 engineer cat

do you know where that can be found in the NT or some other church documentation?

Can’t find it at the moment. IIRC it’s in one of the Pauline epistles.

167 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:59:02pm

re: #136 Dr Lizardo

And now, the greatest wedding photo ever.

Image: article-2333334-1A0E8CE7000005DC-261_964x616.jpg

EPIC WIN

168 Dr. Matt  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:59:18pm

re: #165 Lidane

Needs more raptors.

Needs more Jesus-riding raptors.

169 Varek Raith  Thu, May 30, 2013 1:59:21pm

re: #165 Lidane

Image: raptor.jpg

170 Dr Lizardo  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:01:00pm

re: #167 Vicious Babushka

EPIC WIN

It’s brilliant, and clearly the bride and groom have a good sense of humor.

171 Occam's Guillotine  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:01:02pm

re: #112 Timothy Watson

I haven’t seen a single right-wing/conservative organization denounce these assassination attempts, which obviously means that each and every conservative and Republican supports them.

SWIDT?

Of course not. There is no such thing as a “moderate” conservative.
//

172 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:01:11pm

re: #152 jaunte

High pork and grits diet.

Or, as Hitchens said of Jerry Fallwell, “if you’d given him an enema you could’ve buried him in a match box.”

173 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:01:17pm

Beethoven wrote sucky operas.

Here is a great song about a girl whose boyfriend has just gone off to war, and she’s singing about how she wishes that she could be a man and go off to war with him.

So I thought so this opera must be about how she dresses as a man and marches off with her boyfriend!

Wrong. She stays home and then he gets captured and then she kills herself.

SUCK

Youtube Video

174 erik_t  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:01:44pm

re: #163 GunstarGreen

In fairness, it is not possible to be simultaneously gay and christian without some serious cognitive dissonance. Leviticus 20:13 clearly and unequivocally states that God commands you to kill homosexuals. Even if you’re practicing one of the flavors of christianity that believes it’s okay to ignore the inconvenient parts of the old testament’s laws, the fact remains that at some point god said it was not only permissible, but required that homosexual people be murdered. Him saying “j/k gay people are totally cool” some time later doesn’t change that fact, and I for one cannot imagine worshiping a deity that at one point would have commanded his followers to kill me.

Or you invoke the imperfect-human-writers exception. A guy who was inspired by god to some extent says that god told him that it was required to murder homosexual people.

175 GunstarGreen  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:04:58pm

re: #174 erik_t

Or you invoke the imperfect-human-writers exception. A guy who was inspired by god to some extent says that god told him that it was required to murder homosexual people.

I don’t subscribe to the “all of the parts of the bible that make god look like a malevolent tyrant bad were translator error” hypothesis.

176 Amory Blaine  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:05:43pm

Reading the comments of the story I get a whiff of approval from some of them.

177 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:10:30pm

re: #135 engineer cat

do you know where that can be found in the NT or some other church documentation?

This isn’t exactly what I was thinking of, but it does convey much the same the message (note that Paul here is addressing gentile Christians in Galatia, and that by “yoke of bondage” he means “obedience to the Mosaic Law”):

Gal.5
[1] Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
[2] Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
[3] For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
[4] Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
[5] For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
[6] For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth anything, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.

178 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:12:38pm

re: #147 Vicious Babushka

Like these guys?

I see round corners!

179 Jolo5309  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:12:54pm

re: #157 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Isn’t that just every night?

Nope, some nights I am coloured drunk

180 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:13:22pm

Felt a need to share this.

He shouldn’t have blinked…

181 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:14:35pm

re: #177 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

This isn’t exactly what I was thinking of, but it does convey much the same the message (note that Paul here is addressing gentile Christians in Galatia, and that by “yoke of bondage” he means “obedience to the Mosaic Law”):

At that time Judaism was popular among Roman intellectuals, but because of the many complicated laws it was difficult to become a convert. Paul promised “instant Judaism” without any of those inconvenient restrictions.

What is ironic is that Judaism has always taught that there are many paths to salvation and gentiles can seek their own path. That is why we do not proselytize.

182 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:15:22pm

re: #178 Gus

I see round corners!

They have payos, just very short.

183 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:17:31pm

re: #182 Vicious Babushka

They have payos, just very short.

I like the guy’s expression in the middle.

184 Lidane  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:18:12pm

Please proceed:

185 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:18:55pm

What could go wrong?

Russians draw liquid blood from frozen woolly mammoth

A team of researchers from Russia and South Korea claim to have taken the first sample of liquid blood from an adult woolly mammoth that was frozen in the permafrost of the New Siberian Islands

186 Ming  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:19:39pm

re: #35 iossarian

WHERE ARE THE MODERATE WINGNUTS SPEAKING OUT AGAINST THIS???

Well, Bob Dole recently spoke out about how crazy and destructive the GOP currently is. But I agree with you, we really need more “moderate Republicans” (or “sane Republicans”) to put country before party, and speak up. It doesn’t happen nearly enough.

187 Occam's Guillotine  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:19:43pm

More from the local cultural scene.
To any of Lubbock’s very numerous loud-muffler pickup drivin’ macho men who think my cute new minivan is “effeminate” or even gay:
I’m sorry your penis is so small, but there is nothing I can, or will, do about it. Good luck with the ladies, losers.
It really is simply adorable.

188 Ian G.  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:19:49pm

re: #129 Kragar

Analogies, Al, ur doing them wrong.

189 jaunte  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:20:28pm

re: #185 Bubblehead II

Mammoth Fever Sweeps Russia!

190 Lidane  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:23:05pm

re: #185 Bubblehead II

What could go wrong?

Russians draw liquid blood from frozen woolly mammoth

Nothing will go wrong. We’ll just get a whole new generation of vacuum cleaners and showers, like on The Flintstones.

191 Ian G.  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:25:46pm

re: #185 Bubblehead II

I once read that cloning extinct animals a la “Jurassic Park” would never work because, in addition to the extinct animals, you’d have to clone the millions of extinct microorganisms in, for example, the intestines, that made it possible for the animal to live in the first place.

192 engineer cat  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:25:59pm

re: #177 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

This isn’t exactly what I was thinking of, but it does convey much the same the message (note that Paul here is addressing gentile Christians in Galatia, and that by “yoke of bondage” he means “obedience to the Mosaic Law”):

while the debate that paul has with the rest of the apostles on the subject of circumcision is covered in detail in the NT, i don’t believe there is any scriptural authority, or any other kind of authority for that matter, on the subject of which other passages in the OT are still law and which not

the thing is, the conventional catholic and protestant church position on the OT is that the “old covenant” has been superseded and replaced by the “new covenant”. yet somehow passages from the OT are frequently cited as if the OT were still in force

the one evangelical leader that replied to my emails on the subject simply agreed with me that it was not correct for christians to cite OT

but i continue to hear christians cite OT passages that they like as law and declare passages they don’t like as superseded, yet there is no authority that can be cited for this

193 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:26:46pm

re: #189 jaunte

Mammoth Fever Sweeps Russia!

Cloned wooly mammoths with web cams crashing into cars on Russian highways. //

194 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:27:49pm

re: #190 Lidane

Bronto Mammoth Burgers

195 Occam's Guillotine  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:28:45pm

re: #185 Bubblehead II

What could go wrong?

Russians draw liquid blood from frozen woolly mammoth

A team of researchers from Russia and South Korea claim to have taken the first sample of liquid blood from an adult woolly mammoth that was frozen in the permafrost of the New Siberian Islands

I’ve been toying with a science fiction scenario in which not thousands, but millions, of feral hogs congregate near a middle size Texas city, then stampede through it destroying everything in their path. They would be brought together by a massive spill of a synthetic pheromone some ag chemical types have developed to help with control measures.

196 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:28:47pm

re: #191 Ian G.

I once read that cloning extinct animals a la “Jurassic Park” would never work because, in addition to the extinct animals, you’d have to clone the millions of extinct microorganisms in, for example, the intestines, that made it possible for the animal to live in the first place.

Guess we are going to find out if that is true or not. You know they are going to try and who knows, maybe succeed.

197 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:28:51pm
198 jaunte  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:29:16pm

Wooly mammoth Russian mafia oligarchs cornering sturgeon-roe market.

199 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:29:21pm

Dana Loesch. Always making a point of trying to place herself into the middle of any controversy.

200 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:43:34pm


Udder. Mooooo!

201 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:44:07pm

:’(

How bad is this?

202 ContraryLemming  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:44:12pm

re: #68 steve_davis

Uncle Ben’s Wild Ricin. For some reason, this is no longer available on store shelves.

Current winner of comment thread.

Unfortunately, your reward comes in the form of Ricin Krispie Cakes. Strangely absent from the card tables at bake sales.

203 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:47:25pm

frankly, if you read the stuff the NRA generates about Boomberg and Obama, (and you had that kind of mind) you might feel the need do something about it as well.

I still put the blame for this squarely on the NRA.

How are you all this afternoon.

204 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:48:30pm

Stabby and Wargalla are in a neck to neck race for the bottom 10. Stabby has a 2 post lead.

205 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:50:16pm

The first video offering on the NRA ILA link shows Obama and Bloomberg.

206 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:51:54pm

re: #203 FemNaziBitch

How are you all this afternoon.

Waiting for hubs to arrive home this evening for the weekend.
The very first thing he will do is put in the two window AC units; 90F at the end of May is ridiculous!

207 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:52:46pm

re: #203 FemNaziBitch

frankly, if you read the stuff the NRA generates about Boomberg and Obama, (and you had that kind of mind) you might feel the need do something about it as well.

I still put the blame for this squarely on the NRA.

How are you all this afternoon.

Doing good. NRA bears some responsibility, but the fr rwnj echo chamber(s) does so as well.

208 Lidane  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:53:08pm
209 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:53:14pm

re: #204 Bubblehead II

Wargalla?

210 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:54:24pm

re: #207 Bubblehead II

Doing good. NRA bears some responsibility, but the fr rwnj echo chamber(s) does so as well.

i guess I don’t distinguish the two as separate entities.

211 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:54:25pm

re: #204 Bubblehead II

Stabby and Wargalla are in a neck to neck race for the bottom 10. Stabby has a 2 post lead.

geez…is Wargalla still at it?

212 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:54:47pm

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

Waiting for hubs to arrive home this evening for the weekend.
The very first thing he will do is put in the two window AC units; 90F at the end of May is ridiculous!

Storms still coming thru my world. Hot and humid!

213 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:55:22pm

re: #209 ProTARDISLiberal

Wargalla?

wargala

Classic RWNJ.

214 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:57:15pm

re: #212 FemNaziBitch

Storms still coming thru my world. Hot and humid!

I am back on the left coast but only home for another day (after today) before it’s back to the airport. Ugh. At least this trip will be in the same timezone.

215 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:57:17pm

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

geez…is Wargalla still at it?

Haven’t checked. Just noting that the two a in are race to the bottom.
Myself, I predict that Stabby will once again make a clean sweep.

216 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:57:29pm

re: #204 Bubblehead II

Have to thank Obdicut later for taking Stabby to task.

There is only one area where I will allow myself to turn very aggressive anymore, and that will be those who have hijacked my faith into a Dark Age.

217 The Ghost of a Flea  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:57:45pm

re: #209 ProTARDISLiberal

Wargalla?

This guy:

re: #460 Wargala

I’m saying every man has his breaking point. Sooner or later, if we went down the road of imprisoning people for dissenting political views, you’ll see more and more of this type of thing.

This place USED to be a place where we would talk about external threats to the United States, such as Islamic terrorism. But everyone loses their minds when you talk about internal threats to individual freedoms.

218 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, May 30, 2013 2:58:55pm

re: #212 FemNaziBitch

Storms still coming thru my world. Hot and humid!

yikes! Storms are supposed to show up here tomorrow night, followed by a sort of cool off.
Waiting impatiently for a new charge controller to be delivered for the solar setup. Our last one melted last weekend…apparently the panels are generating too much power. The new one is rated for 10,000 watts and 440 amps with built-in breakers. Let the panels try to melt THAT!

219 Mattand  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:01:12pm

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

geez…is Wargalla still at it?

Yeah, I just had a go at him again about 4 minutes ago.

He comes strolling in saying “Hey, guys, we need to stop pushing people or there may be violence”, while refusing to acknowledge that many of his innocent, government-oppressed victims are paranoid, racist loons.

And then gets huffy when he gets called out for essentially endorsing political assassination.

I probably should let it go, but his whole shtick has a really disingenuous feel to it.

220 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:01:44pm

teehee

221 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:02:12pm

re: #210 FemNaziBitch

i guess I don’t distinguish the two as separate entities.

I do. The NRA is the brewer. The echo chamber is the brewing vat. The Brewer feeds the vat with ingredients (talking points), sits back and lets the vat (echo chamber) do its thing. The product of this fermintation is what we are now starting to see.

222 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:04:12pm

re: #219 Mattand

Wargalla’s blatant red meat trolling right off the bat made me just step away from the computer and play with kittens for a while. (But not before a downding or two…)

223 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:04:21pm

Man sentenced to 50 years for stealing rack of ribs

(yes, of course it’s Texas.)

224 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:04:46pm

UGH!

225 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:11:28pm

re: #223 Eclectic Cyborg

Man sentenced to 50 years for stealing rack of ribs

(yes, of course it’s Texas.)

with previus felony convictions, he may not have been able to get a job …

226 EPR-radar  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:13:22pm

re: #221 Bubblehead II

I do. The NRA is the brewer. The echo chamber is the brewing vat. The Brewer feeds the vat with ingredients (talking points), sits back and lets the vat (echo chamber) do its thing. The product of this fermintation is what we are now starting to see.

I’m fond of the phrase “stochastic terrorism” for this effect. The canonical example of this is O’Reilly’s effectively murdering Dr. Tiller with this tactic.

227 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:13:32pm

For anyone who may be curious, here’s the current solar panel setup.
There’s a fourth panel on the roof behind the three in the front. On the left side of the roof are two earlier generation versions. Right now, they are all static placement, but we’ll be transitioning to a tracking setup after we get the basic kinks sorted.

228 AlexRogan  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:15:37pm

re: #223 Eclectic Cyborg

Man sentenced to 50 years for stealing rack of ribs

(yes, of course it’s Texas.)

According to the Consumerist and Waco Tribune-Herald articles, Willie Smith Ward also had 5 previous felony (and 4 misdemeanor) convictions, not to mention that he threatened an employee who followed him out to the parking lot with a knife (though he apparently didn’t brandish it).

He also rejected a 20-year plea deal before trial; I’ll bet he wished he would have taken that deal now.

229 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:18:46pm

re: #226 EPR-radar

I’m fond of the phrase “stochastic terrorism” for this effect. The canonical example of this is O’Reilly’s effectively murdering Dr. Tiller with this tactic.

Stochastic Terrorism: Triggering the shooters.

from this?

230 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:18:54pm

21 A-DERPABLE ANIMAL DERPS

So totally bookmarked.

231 Mattand  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:20:42pm

re: #227 Backwoods_Sleuth

For anyone who may be curious, here’s the current solar panel setup.
There’s a fourth panel on the roof behind the three in the front. On the left side of the roof are two earlier generation versions. Right now, they are all static placement, but we’ll be transitioning to a tracking setup after we get the basic kinks sorted.

I so want to do this on my roof. Southern facing with no trees. I just keep crunching the numbers, and it seems like it will take 20 years to pay for itself. I could be doing the math wrong though.

232 kirkspencer  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:21:09pm

re: #228 AlexRogan

According to the Consumerist and Waco Tribune-Herald articles, Willie Smith Ward also had 5 previous felony (and 4 misdemeanor) convictions, not to mention that he threatned an employee who followed him out to the parking lot with a knife (though he apparently didn’t brandish it).

He also rejected a 20-year plea deal before trial; guess he should have took it, eh?

If I’m reading the charges right, he would normally have faced five years. It’s the habitual criminal sentence that does him in.

And even so, all things considered he probably did better with the habitual. Eligible for parole in 12.5, able to appeal conviction as excessive and judicial bias/influence on jury. (Judge recommended sentence to jury, prosecution did not request it.)

He may be scum. He may a personification of ValJean. Doesn’t matter. He got 50 for a rack of ribs, and that seems a bit excessive.

233 EPR-radar  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:22:06pm

re: #229 FemNaziBitch

Stochastic Terrorism: Triggering the shooters.

from this?

That is a good summary of the effect. I don’t recall whether or not that is where I’ve picked the term up. The idea itself is as old as the hills of course. Many pogroms of Jews in Europe follow this model precisely, with agitprop from Christian churches serving as the driver.

234 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:22:14pm

re: #232 kirkspencer

I’m inclined to agree with you.

235 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:24:08pm

Hey, Libya, what the hell are you doing?

236 The Ghost of a Flea  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:26:37pm

re: #233 EPR-radar

That is a good summary of the effect. I don’t recall whether or not that is where I’ve picked the term up. The idea itself is as old as the hills of course. Many pogroms of Jews in Europe follow this model precisely, with agitprop from Christian churches serving as the driver.

Also the case in Weimar Germany when the NSDAP was growing in power. The authority figures didn’t openly tell the SA to hurt folks…they just made a speech that suggested certain people weren’t German and deserved what they got. Violence and vandalism were “youthful exuberance” and “patriotic love for Germany”—or false flag operations by the Red Front Fighters.

237 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:27:52pm

re: #235 ProTARDISLiberal

The addendum to the guy’s statement of “Because We Can”

Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should.

238 Targetpractice  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:28:07pm

re: #235 ProTARDISLiberal

Hey, Libya, what the hell are you doing?

Somebody PLEASE shoot that poor thing and put it out of its misery.

239 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:28:31pm

Did I post this yet?

Youtube Video

Mothers are now the primary or sole breadwinners in 40% of American households with children, according to a new Pew study. Some (breadwinning women) reported actually wanting this change. Others (sniveling Fox pundits) say apocalypse is nigh and that it’s “anti-science” for women to “dominate.”

Watch above as a group of old Fox Business dudes one-up each other (and, astonishingly, out-Fox themselves — a Cirque De Soleil-worthy feat) by “analyzing” the study and chatting about “science.”

240 EPR-radar  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:29:02pm

re: #235 ProTARDISLiberal

So is this the truck equivalent of the guy that goes to the gym seven days a week and only does the bench press?

241 kirkspencer  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:29:45pm

re: #233 EPR-radar

That is a good summary of the effect. I don’t recall whether or not that is where I’ve picked the term up. The idea itself is as old as the hills of course. Many pogroms of Jews in Europe follow this model precisely, with agitprop from Christian churches serving as the driver.

As I recall (and I admit to imperfection) this particular model reflects the developments of so-called “leaderless resistance”. See in particular the writing of Louis Beam on the subject as guidance for the KKK.

242 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:33:22pm
A newlywed couple moves into their new house. One day the husband comes home from work and his wife says, “Honey, you know, in the upstairs bathroom one of the pipes is leaking, could you fix it?” The husband says, “What do I look like, Mr. Plumber?” A few days go by, and he comes home from work and his wife says, “Honey, the car won’t start. I think it needs a new battery. Could you change it for me?” He says: “What do I look like, Mr. Goodwrench?” Another few days go by, and it’s raining pretty hard. The wife finds a leak in the roof. She says, “Honey, there’s a leak on the roof! Can you please fix it?” He says, “What do I look like, Bob Vila?” The next day the husband comes home, and the roof is fixed. So is the plumbing. So is the car. He asks his wife what happened. “Oh, I had a handyman come in and fix them,” she says. “Great! How much is that going to cost me?” he snarls. Wife says: “Nothing. He said he’d do it for free if I either baked him a cake or slept with him.” “Uh, well, what kind of cake did you make?” asks the husband. “What do I look like,” she says, “Betty Crocker?”
243 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:34:04pm

OMFG DERP

ANSWER: NO.
I have a pro-Israel 501(c)(3) and totally did not get audited. Maybe it’s because I always submit the paperwork on time and don’t try to influence any elections.

244 abolitionist  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:35:44pm

re: #227 Backwoods_Sleuth

For anyone who may be curious, here’s the current solar panel setup.
[snip]

A small design change might significantly reduce chance of wind damage— allowing some airspace between the 3 major subpanels. Or better, break it into 6 or more subpanels, spaced a bit apart, on some sort of open frame.

245 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:35:59pm

re: #231 Mattand

We didn’t look at the financial payoff aspect as much as we did the convenience factor, because the power goes off here all the time (seriously, if a bird pisses on a wire, the power goes out).
We have a gas-powered generator but it’s a real pain and, of course, you have to buy gas for it, and it’s noisy and it stinks.
Also, since the electric bill is usually our biggest household expense, it will be nice to seriously cut that down as we head into our retirement years.
Plus, hubs and I have always been alternative energy geeks, so it’s like a hobby that has an inherent value in and of itself.
Prices are really dropping now. I think we have about $2-3,000 invested so far. Oh, and the panels are American-made, which is nice.

246 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:38:26pm

re: #243 Vicious Babushka


I knew that was coming…what took them so long?

247 Tigger2005  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:39:39pm

re: #186 Ming

Well, Bob Dole recently spoke out about how crazy and destructive the GOP currently is. But I agree with you, we really need more “moderate Republicans” (or “sane Republicans”) to put country before party, and speak up. It doesn’t happen nearly enough.

McCain has been a massive disappointment. If there is anybody you would expect to put country before party, it would be him. Instead he has tried to appease the wingnuts more often than not.

248 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:40:00pm

re: #244 abolitionist

A small design change might significantly reduce chance of wind damage— allowing some airspace between the 3 major subpanels. Or better, break it into 6 or more subpanels, spaced a bit apart, on some sort of open frame.

Very true, and I have mentioned that to hubs, especially when I watched the entire thing flex quite a lot during 30-40 mph wind gusts last month.
Apparently, hubs has a cunning plan to fix that…

249 Mattand  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:41:07pm

re: #245 Backwoods_Sleuth

We didn’t look at the financial payoff aspect as much as we did the convenience factor, because the power goes off here all the time (seriously, if a bird pisses on a wire, the power goes out).
We have a gas-powered generator but it’s a real pain and, of course, you have to buy gas for it, and it’s noisy and it stinks.
Also, since the electric bill is usually our biggest household expense, it will be nice to seriously cut that down as we head into our retirement years.
Plus, hubs and I have always been alternative energy geeks, so it’s like a hobby that has an inherent value in and of itself.
Prices are really dropping now. I think we have about $2-3,000 invested so far. Oh, and the panels are American-made, which is nice.

We’re on a fairly solid power grid, so we’re lucky there. Didn’t lose any power during Sandy, knock on formica.

It’s been a while since I’ve done an estimate, but the rig I was looking at would have covered our roof at $45,000, way out of our price range. There were a bunch of state and fed incentives that would have cut that back a bit, but it was still a massive outlay.

I also calculated our yearly kWh total and plugged them into some online estimators. The savings in electric use wasn’t quite what I was hoping for.

I get suckered in by stories of people who put in solar and then pay off their house in 5 years. I’m sure most of them are apocryphal. Still, it would be cool to use the sun to cut down on our energy bills.

250 Political Atheist  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:43:01pm

re: #227 Backwoods_Sleuth

Interesting. I have some limited experience with this, at a commercial property. Multiple bids, none suggested tracking gear. How much does that gain you? Our numbers crunched way better much sooner, but include tax incentives that are big.

251 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:44:12pm

Flash Flood and Hazardous Weather Conditions Warnings for my world.

252 kirkspencer  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:45:36pm

re: #249 Mattand

We’re on a fairly sold power grid, so we’re lucky there. Didn’t lose any power during Sandy, knock on formica.

It’s been a while since I’ve done an estimate, but the rig I was looking at would have covered our roof at $45,000, way out of our price range. There were a bunch of state and fed incentives that would have cut that back a bit, but it was still a massive outlay.

I also calculated our yearly kWh total and plugged them into some online estimators. The savings in electrify wasn’t quite what I was hoping for.

I get suckered in by stories of people who put in solar and then pay off their house in 5 years. I’m sure most of them are apocryphal. Still, it would be cool to use the sun to cut down on our energy bills.

Don’t forget to look and see if your local power company buys energy. They won’t do it at the rate they’ll sell, but it can still be another source for breaking even.

253 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:48:32pm

re: #249 Mattand


I think cutting down on the electricity bill is an inexpensive way to start. In most houses, the biggest energy hogs are the water heater, refrigerator, AC units, so you could look at powering one or more of those.
For us, our well pump is a HUGE energy hog, so that’s the only thing we’ve been running on solar so far (well, until the controller melted…)
Once we get the technical details sorted, we’ll transition more of the house to the solar.
It’s also good that we’re experimenting with the current house so we’ll be ready to move it to the new house out back.

254 freetoken  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:49:43pm

A number of tornado warnings have been popping up for the central part of the country, but so far no really major destruction.

Lots of rain, though.

255 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:49:47pm

re: #250 Political Atheist

Interesting. I have some limited experience with this, at a commercial property. Multiple bids, none suggested tracking gear. How much does that gain you? Our numbers crunched way better much sooner, but include tax incentives that are big.

Personally, I don’t think a tracking system is worth the trouble (just one more thing to break down), but hubs keeps talking about it.
I think a static array will work out just fine for us.

257 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:50:25pm
258 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:52:02pm

re: #252 kirkspencer

Don’t forget to look and see if your local power company buys energy. They won’t do it at the rate they’ll sell, but it can still be another source for breaking even.

I have friends in Arizona who have solar and their power company buys their excess.
We’re with a rural electric co-op that doesn’t buy excess, instead they apply excess as a credit against future use from the mains.

259 kirkspencer  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:52:41pm

re: #255 Backwoods_Sleuth

Personally, I don’t think a tracking system is worth the trouble (just one more thing to break down), but hubs keeps talking about it.
I think a static array will work out just fine for us.

A tracking array will give you 5 to 15 percent more energy, the actual amount depending on a lot of factors. Plan on the 5, and consider it if it’s enough to pay for the tracking system (which you’ll replace roughly every time you replace the panels).

260 Kragar  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:52:50pm

AFA spokesman: ‘Satan is using’ gay Boy Scouts

Some Christians suggest retaining a relationship with the Scouts in order to win homosexuals to Christ, but Randy Sharp, AFA director of special projects, reminds OneNewsNow that Satan is like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour.

And now Satan’s not just on the outside of the church, he’s on the inside.

“The adults may be wanting to take these kids and reach them for Christ,” Sharp explains, “but what’s happening is Satan is using these kids to indoctrinate and mislead other small children into a dangerous and unhealthy lifestyle.”
…
“We’re not going to allow it inside the door of the church,” he continues. “Sure we want to reach the lost child for Christ, but we can’t condone the sin and bring it inside the building to do so.”

261 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:53:58pm
262 Lidane  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:54:13pm

re: #257 Gus

Dear Greta,

Welcome to the 2013 right wing. It’s the same right wing that’s been around for the last 50+ years. And your job at Fox helps keep it going.

No love,
Me

263 freetoken  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:55:27pm

Interesting paper on genetics and education published today in Science:

GWAS of 126,559 Individuals Identifies Genetic Variants Associated with Educational Attainment

A genome-wide association study of educational attainment was conducted in a discovery sample of 101,069 individuals and a replication sample of 25,490. Three independent SNPs are genome-wide significant (rs9320913, rs11584700, rs4851266), and all three replicate. Estimated effects sizes are small (R2 ≈ 0.02%), approximately 1 month of schooling per allele. A linear polygenic score from all measured SNPs accounts for ≈ 2% of the variance in both educational attainment and cognitive function. Genes in the region of the loci have previously been associated with health, cognitive, and central nervous system phenotypes, and bioinformatics analyses suggest the involvement of the anterior caudate nucleus. These findings provide promising candidate SNPs for follow-up work, and our effect size estimates can anchor power analyses in social-science genetics.

This is a very small signal, for finding a cause.

The PR:


Multi-national study identifies links between genetic variants and educational attainment

A multi-national team of researchers has identified genetic markers that predict educational attainment by pooling data from more than 125,000 individuals in the United States, Australia, and 13 western European countries.

The study, which appears in the journal Science, was conducted by the Social Science Genetic Association Consortium (SSGAC), which includes researchers at NYU, Erasmus University, Cornell University, Harvard University, the University of Bristol, and the University of Queensland, among other institutions.

The SSGAC conducted what is called a genome-wide association study (GWAS) to explore the link between genetic variation and educational attainment—the number of years of schooling completed by an individual and whether he or she graduated college. In a GWAS, researchers test hundreds of thousands of genetic markers for association with some characteristics such as a disease, trait or life outcome.

[…]

Anticipating that very large samples would be required to credibly detect genetic associations, the SSGAC researchers assembled a total sample size more than 10 times larger than any previous genetic study of any social-scientific outcome. The team examined associations between educational attainment and genetic variants called single-nucleotide polymorphisms, or SNPs, which are tiny changes at a single location in a person’s genetic code.

The study found that the genetic markers with the strongest effects on educational attainment could each only explain two one-hundredths of a percentage point (0.02 percent). To put that figure into perspective, it is known from earlier research that the SNP with the largest effect on human height accounts for about 0.40 percent of the variation.

Combining the two million examined SNPs, the SSGAC researchers were able to explain about 2 percent of the variation in educational attainment across individuals, and anticipate that this figure will rise as larger samples become available.

[…]

The bottom line is that so far little connection has been shown as far as genetics and causality in intellectual achievement.

264 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:55:39pm

How come we have to be either very young or very old to get this?

265 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:58:36pm

re: #261 Vicious Babushka

I think I posted that —somewhere.

266 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, May 30, 2013 3:58:38pm

re: #230 Vicious Babushka

21 A-DERPABLE ANIMAL DERPS

So totally bookmarked.

That is freakin adorable!

267 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 4:01:09pm

GGT shakes head.

I’ve posted this before, but it just makes me so sad.

Salvadoran Woman Has Been Denied A Life-Saving Abortion Even Though Her Fetus Is Missing Its Brain

268 Kragar  Thu, May 30, 2013 4:02:26pm

re: #267 FemNaziBitch

GGT shakes head.

I’ve posted this before, but it just makes me so sad.

Salvadoran Woman Has Been Denied A Life-Saving Abortion Even Though Her Fetus Is Missing Its Brain

Because why have one death when your bullheaded ignorance can make sure 2 people die?

269 Lidane  Thu, May 30, 2013 4:03:08pm
270 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 30, 2013 4:03:21pm

re: #267 FemNaziBitch

GGT shakes head.

I’ve posted this before, but it just makes me so sad.

Salvadoran Woman Has Been Denied A Life-Saving Abortion Even Though Her Fetus Is Missing Its Brain

HOW IN THE FUCK IS THAT “PRO LIFE”? SO NOW 2 LIVES WILL BE LOST.

271 Lidane  Thu, May 30, 2013 4:04:06pm

re: #267 FemNaziBitch

Salvadoran Woman Has Been Denied A Life-Saving Abortion Even Though Her Fetus Is Missing Its Brain

If she prays hard enough, her baby’s brain will be restored, just like Terri Schiavo’s was.

////

272 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 30, 2013 4:07:13pm

re: #267 FemNaziBitch

GGT shakes head.

I’ve posted this before, but it just makes me so sad.

Salvadoran Woman Has Been Denied A Life-Saving Abortion Even Though Her Fetus Is Missing Its Brain

I went to the anti-abortion lifesitenews.com to see what they had to say about the Beatriz case.

Don’t go there. It will make you want to kill somebody, and that is not pro-life.

273 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 4:07:53pm

CAPTAIN PICARD!

274 abolitionist  Thu, May 30, 2013 4:08:54pm

re: #255 Backwoods_Sleuth

Personally, I don’t think a tracking system is worth the trouble (just one more thing to break down), but hubs keeps talking about it.
I think a static array will work out just fine for us.

I can’t point to any links on this, but I think the improvement of output with fancy tracking (vs fixed) would be about 2:1, at best. However, a simple tilt adjustment, done manually twice a year (near equinox), might improve output enough to be worthwhile. I’m guessing the bonus might be about 15% or so, for near-zero extra cost.

275 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 30, 2013 4:11:30pm
276 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, May 30, 2013 4:13:12pm

re: #274 abolitionist

I can’t point to any links on this, but I think the improvement of output with fancy tracking (vs fixed) would be about 2:1, at best. However, a simple tilt adjustment, done manually twice a year (near equinox), might improve output enough to be worthwhile. I’m guessing the bonus might be about 15% or so, for near-zero extra cost.

Yes! I agree that a tilt adjustment thingie (for winter/summer sun angle differences) is probably best.

277 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Thu, May 30, 2013 4:13:45pm

re: #202 ContraryLemming

Current winner of comment thread.

Unfortunately, your reward comes in the form of Ricin Krispie Cakes. Strangely absent from the card tables at bake sales.

I can’t find Ricin-A-Roni anywhere either. It’s eerie.

278 Dr Lizardo  Thu, May 30, 2013 4:13:48pm

re: #275 Vicious Babushka

Image: 37685480.jpg

279 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 30, 2013 4:14:38pm

re: #278 Dr Lizardo

Image: 37685480.jpg

request content could not be loaded.

280 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, May 30, 2013 4:15:29pm

Meanwhile in Oz, eight inch fluorescent pink slugs have been spotted on Mount Kaputar, a 5,000-foot peak in the Nandewar Range in northern New South Wales.

281 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 4:16:42pm

re: #275 Vicious Babushka

So there are sane people in the world.

282 Dr Lizardo  Thu, May 30, 2013 4:17:12pm

re: #279 Vicious Babushka

Weird. It works on my computer.

It’s the Grumpy Cat ‘GOOD’ photo.

283 GeneJockey  Thu, May 30, 2013 4:18:35pm

re: #257 Gus

Well, of course it only makes sense that a panel discussing the role of men as breadwinners should contain only men. After all, it was about the role of MEN, right?

284 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 30, 2013 4:18:40pm

re: #282 Dr Lizardo

Weird. It works on my computer.

It’s the Grumpy Cat ‘GOOD’ photo.

You can see it because it’s in your cache.

285 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 4:19:37pm

re: #280 Backwoods_Sleuth

Meanwhile in Oz, eight inch fluorescent pink slugseight inch fluorescent pink slug have been spotted on Mount Kaputar, a 5,000-foot peak in the Nandewar Range in northern New South Wales.

digusting!

286 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 4:20:36pm

Did I tell you that I know think Patrick Stewart is the new bestest, sexiest man on the planet.

Sean Connery just got blown out of the running for life.

Video made me cry

287 Dr Lizardo  Thu, May 30, 2013 4:21:17pm

re: #284 Vicious Babushka

You can see it because it’s in your cache.

Ah, OK.

I’m watching ‘Behind The Candelabra’. I must say Michael Douglas is pretty much spot-on as Liberace. Good film.

288 GeneJockey  Thu, May 30, 2013 4:21:18pm

re: #280 Backwoods_Sleuth

Meanwhile in Oz, eight inch fluorescent pink slugseight inch fluorescent pink slug have been spotted on Mount Kaputar, a 5,000-foot peak in the Nandewar Range in northern New South Wales.

This is why I absolutely frakkin’ LOVE Biology!!

289 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 4:21:55pm

re: #286 FemNaziBitch

Did I tell you that I know think Patrick Stewart is the new bestest, sexiest man on the planet.

Sean Connery just got blown out of the running for life.

Video made me cry

Make it so.

290 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 30, 2013 4:26:50pm

re: #275 Vicious Babushka

Sadly, they will ignore the order. They answer to a higher authority. The Vatican.

291 Dr Lizardo  Thu, May 30, 2013 4:27:51pm

re: #286 FemNaziBitch

Did I tell you that I know think Patrick Stewart is the new bestest, sexiest man on the planet.

Sean Connery just got blown out of the running for life.

Video made me cry

Someone must be cutting onions around here.

292 allegro  Thu, May 30, 2013 4:43:09pm

I’ve just noticed that my Buddy’s crocheted toy basket has only 2 toys in it that he doesn’t like. All of his many other toys are in a collected pile on the sofa. Think he’s trying to tell me something?

293 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 30, 2013 4:45:24pm

re: #292 allegro

I’ve just noticed that my Buddy’s crocheted toy basket has only 2 toys in it that he doesn’t like. All of his many other toys are in a collected pile on the sofa. Think he’s trying to tell me something?

Loose the basket and its contents?

294 allegro  Thu, May 30, 2013 4:46:26pm

re: #293 Bubblehead II

Loose the basket and its contents?

That’s what I’m thinking. But dammit I MADE that cute basket just for him. *grumble*

295 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 30, 2013 4:46:26pm
296 The Ghost of a Flea  Thu, May 30, 2013 4:54:37pm

re: #286 FemNaziBitch

Did I tell you that I know think Patrick Stewart is the new bestest, sexiest man on the planet.

Sean Connery just got blown out of the running for life.

Video made me cry

If I ever meet Patrick Stewart, chances are very good I’m going to bear-hug him while tearing up. That was…close to home.

297 Sionainn  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:00:21pm

re: #280 Backwoods_Sleuth

Meanwhile in Oz, eight inch fluorescent pink slugs have been spotted on Mount Kaputar, a 5,000-foot peak in the Nandewar Range in northern New South Wales.

Cool!

298 Sionainn  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:01:28pm

News on the woman in El Salvador. She will be receiving a C-section. Link

299 freetoken  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:01:54pm

Color me not surprised, but the media is getting it wrong on science, again:

Degrees of learning in the genes

Yeah, its about the new paper I linked just a bit ago.

Recommend reading the press release of that paper, then look again at that Australian Broadcasting headlines.

Anyway, in the body of that ABC entry:

It’s not quite the ‘smart gene’ but researchers have identified a small number of genetic markers associated with educational attainment.

A genome-wide association study using genetic data from more than 100,000 individuals found three genetic markers that were significantly linked to an individual’s numbers of years of schooling and highest degree of education.

[…]

Ok, as I say Math iz Hard, and statistics will throw most novices for a loop, but something needs to be set straight here.

As you can see from my links earlier, the actual effect detected by genetic differences is quite small. There was a statistically significant measurable difference, but when a scientist uses the phrase “statistically significant” what that means is that the variance in the data is small enough compared to the actual value of the data to pass an accepted threshold (and those thresholds are different depending on the nature of the science involved, and even the fields of study.)

For ABC to write “… found three genetic markers that were significantly linked to an individual’s … ” is to mislead their readers, as the readers will almost certainly interpret “significantly” in lay terms and as used in common English when discussing relative values of whatever (say, the price of cars.)

The ABC story then goes on to try and convey the actual meaning of the story, but what ABC has done is confuse their readers by the third paragraph enough that further elaboration in the article is unlikely to help. A particular bright reader might read the article and wonder why, if .02% is the largest difference for which any single allele can account, did the ABC writer call this “significant”, frankly I doubt few of the ABC readers will have read down that far and even if they do if they really catch this.

I’m not just being a pedant here. There is a real lack of communication and furthermore misses an important interpretation of the actual results.

300 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:05:11pm

re: #296 The Ghost of a Flea

If I ever meet Patrick Stewart, chances are very good I’m going to bear-hug him while tearing up. That was…close to home.

I hope this video goes viral. It’s very effective.

I think I fell totally in love when he asked the questioner if she was ok —and was serious.

301 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:08:26pm

So there is this new thing called Google Hangout …

White House is hosting one with Bill Nye the Science guy to geek out about the asteroid.

302 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:10:08pm

re: #298 Sionainn

News on the woman in El Salvador. She will be receiving a C-section. Link

Then feel free to down ding my 290. I didn’t think they would cave. My bad.

303 EPR-radar  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:11:36pm

re: #299 freetoken

Innumeracy is a real issue. It’s particularly disturbing when it is used in support of RW voodoo economics talking points.

304 EPR-radar  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:12:21pm

re: #302 Bubblehead II

Then feel free to down ding my 290. I didn’t think they would cave. My bad.

I’m pleasantly surprised by this as well.

305 wrenchwench  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:14:25pm

re: #298 Sionainn

News on the woman in El Salvador. She will be receiving a C-section. Link

Just what every woman with kidney failure and lupus needs. Major surgery. Inducing labor would probably be safer.

306 wrenchwench  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:23:02pm

re: #300 FemNaziBitch

I hope this video goes viral. It’s very effective.

I think I fell totally in love when he asked the questioner if she was ok —and was serious.

I fell in love when he said, ‘…to boldly go where no one has gone before’ instead of ‘where no man has gone before’. ‘Bout time you caught up.

307 Randall Gross  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:24:08pm

nbcnewyork.com

308 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:27:56pm

re: #306 wrenchwench

I fell in love when he said, ‘…to boldly go where no one has gone before’ instead of ‘where no man has gone before’. ‘Bout time you caught up.

Yeah, but those were Gene Roddenberry’s words. The posted Video was PURE PATRICK.

*swoon*

309 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:30:33pm

re: #299 freetoken

Color me not surprised, but the media is getting it wrong on science, again:

Degrees of learning in the genes

Yeah, its about the new paper I linked just a bit ago.

Recommend reading the press release of that paper, then look again at that Australian Broadcasting headlines.

Anyway, in the body of that ABC entry:

Ok, as I say Math iz Hard, and statistics will throw most novices for a loop, but something needs to be set straight here.

As you can see from my links earlier, the actual effect detected by genetic differences is quite small. There was a statistically significant measurable difference, but when a scientist uses the phrase “statistically significant” what that means is that the variance in the data is small enough compared to the actual value of the data to pass an accepted threshold (and those thresholds are different depending on the nature of the science involved, and even the fields of study.)

For ABC to write “… found three genetic markers that were significantly linked to an individual’s … ” is to mislead their readers, as the readers will almost certainly interpret “significantly” in lay terms and as used in common English when discussing relative values of whatever (say, the price of cars.)

The ABC story then goes on to try and convey the actual meaning of the story, but what ABC has done is confuse their readers by the third paragraph enough that further elaboration in the article is unlikely to help. A particular bright reader might read the article and wonder why, if .02% is the largest difference for which any single allele can account, did the ABC writer call this “significant”, frankly I doubt few of the ABC readers will have read down that far and even if they do if they really catch this.

I’m not just being a pedant here. There is a real lack of communication and furthermore misses an important interpretation of the actual results.

Most scientists I know are disgusted by the media’s inability to print accurate science stories. Your exposing their stupidity is quite useful, so keep doing it.

310 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:31:43pm

re: #308 FemNaziBitch

Yeah, but those were Gene Roddenberry’s words. The posted Video was PURE PATRICK.

*swoon*

Cool down ladies.

311 EPR-radar  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:33:29pm

re: #309 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Most scientists I know are disgusted by the media’s inability to print accurate science stories. Your exposing their stupidity is quite useful, so keep doing it.

This is especially bad for science, but in general the media will totally screw up any story that needs significant subject matter expertise to properly describe. (e.g., law, science, medicine, etc.).

Covering Justin Bieber’s latest traffic violations is, all too often, the limit of the capability the media provides.

312 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:34:39pm

re: #310 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Cool down ladies.

It’s ok, we’ll save Dr. Crusher for you.

//

313 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:54:19pm

re: #310 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Cool down ladies.

What can I tell you —good men are sexy.

314 Sionainn  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:49:08pm

re: #302 Bubblehead II

Then feel free to down ding my 290. I didn’t think they would cave. My bad.

Why would I do that? The story changes as more info comes in. :-)


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