Glenn Beck, Asking Questions: Did Obama Leak That Anti-Islam Video With an Off-the-Grid Secret Blackberry?

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Glenn Beck, last seen complaining that everybody wants to label him a conspiracy theorist — unfairly! — is now wondering whether President Obama himself spread that notorious anti-Islam video throughout the Middle East to deliberately cause riots, using a secret, off-the-grid Blackberry.

Nothing conspiratorial about that — he’s just asking questions! It’s perfectly plausible if you begin with the assumption that Barack Obama is some kind of comic-book super-villain.

Via: Beck Wants Records From Obama’s Blackberry to Determine if He Was the Source of ‘Innocence of Muslims’ Video | Right Wing Watch

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340 comments
1 lawhawk  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:03:08pm

Despite how insane Beck sounds (and he is absolutely insane), there’s far too many people who buy into his nonsense and believe it - hook, line, and stinker.

And how is it that Beck came up with this before Alex Jones? I smell conspiracy!

2 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:04:32pm

Why, why in the world do people think I’m a conspiracy theorist?!
— Glenn Beck

3 Targetpractice  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:07:30pm

Hold on a sec…

*toke toke cough*

Nope, still doesn’t make any sense.

/

4 Charles Johnson  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:07:40pm

Is it me or is the right getting even crazier than usual lately?

5 lawhawk  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:07:59pm

Glenn Beck has crossed over once and for all into Eric Cartman. They are one and the same.

6 Lidane  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:08:05pm

It would be irresponsible not to speculate.

7 Lidane  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:08:44pm

re: #5 lawhawk

Glenn Beck has crossed over once and for all into Eric Cartman. They are one and the same.

With one exception — Cartman is actually funny.

8 The Ghost of a Flea  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:08:55pm

If Glenn were really in the know, he’d be talking about Obama’s secret, off-the-grid Pinkberry.

9 EPR-radar  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:09:10pm

Pure drivel. Why would Obama want to create a foreign policy stink bomb in an election year?

Plausibility fail. At least the GOP would have a motive for inciting riots and anti-American demonstrations at that time.

10 lawhawk  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:09:20pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Definitely crazier than usual. The random scandal generator attempts haven’t successfully led to impeachment, so they think that attempting even more smears would do the trick. The more outlandish, the better.

11 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:09:36pm

There’s Glen and there’s the Geeks.

They could have a shout-out. (or whatever it’s called)

12 Bulworth  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:09:39pm

Sure, Glenn, we’ll get you those Blackberry records, coming right up. //

13 Charles Johnson  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:09:50pm

I mean, there has been some really weird shit coming out of the right lately. Seriously weird shit. Disturbingly weird shit.

14 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:09:56pm

Gawd. It’s even bad acting. His awkward movement. The goofy camera angles and movements. That jacket which is two sizes too small and looks like it’s been sitting in a hamper for at least a week.

15 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:10:27pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

I mean, there has been some really weird shit coming out of the right lately. Seriously weird shit. Disturbingly weird shit.

It’s the normal human reaction when one’s World View is shattered by Reality.

16 Kragar  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:10:37pm

Obviously Beck was behind Benghazi, and is just blaming Obama to cover his own involvement in the matter.

17 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:11:00pm

I like the way he can’t find his pocket at the end.

18 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:11:07pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

I mean, there has been some really weird shit coming out of the right lately. Seriously weird shit. Disturbingly weird shit.

Yeah, just look at the bottom comments.

19 PhillyPretzel  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:11:24pm

It is the heat on the East Coast that is driving these nuts crazy.

20 freetoken  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:11:53pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

I mean, there has been some really weird shit coming out of the right lately. Seriously weird shit. Disturbingly weird shit.

Was it there all the time, just lurking in the shadows?

21 Lidane  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:12:43pm

re: #19 PhillyPretzel

It is the heat on the East Coast that is driving these nuts crazy.

Can’t be. The world is getting cooler, not warmer. Remember?

////

22 freetoken  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:13:42pm

The wingnut idiocy is manipulated emotion on a professional scale.

Consider this:

Tea party groups rallying against Common Core education overhaul

The tea-partiers need something to hate. They really do. That’s why their groups exist.

23 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:14:06pm

THE HORROR!

The world as Glenn knows it is over.

24 Bulworth  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:14:06pm

I thought the RWNJ would be screaming about the Boston Marathon bombings for another six months at least.

25 PhillyPretzel  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:14:17pm

re: #21 Lidane

erh.noaa.gov

We are having a heat wave in Philly and some bad air.

26 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:14:37pm

He wanted something else from PBO — “by Monday” — not so long ago.

27 Bulworth  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:15:12pm

re: #22 freetoken

Common Core will lead to Agenda 21. Or Agenda 21 is Common Core. Whichever, whatever. //

28 lawhawk  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:15:21pm
29 PhillyPretzel  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:16:15pm

re: #28 lawhawk

Good thing. I cannot find my bullets. ////

30 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:16:17pm

Here’s another crazy conspiracy that has gone viral:

31 Bulworth  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:17:12pm

re: #30 Vicious Babushka

Oh, well if actions may have been coordinated, then yes, JAIL NO BAIL!

32 Varek Raith  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:17:30pm

Whut.

33 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:18:18pm

re: #31 Bulworth

Oh, well if actions may have been coordinated, then yes, JAIL NO BAIL!

I think what Chief Poindexter really wants is execution, with or without due process.

34 Bulworth  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:18:39pm

re: #30 Vicious Babushka

Not sure I can get all excited about a tweet from someone calling themselves Chief Poindexter.

35 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:20:39pm

re: #18 Vicious Babushka

Yeah, just look at the bottom comments.

I like how everyone is just kind of apathetic about Stabby at this point.

36 PhillyPretzel  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:21:42pm

re: #35 klys and whatnot

Stabby? Who the heck is that? ///

37 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:22:54pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

I mean, there has been some really weird shit coming out of the right lately. Seriously weird shit. Disturbingly weird shit.

I think it’s a combination of several things:

1. General opinion is starting to turn even more against them and they are desperately trying to stay relevant and snag headlines/news coverage so they come up with ever crazier notions to try and draw attention to themselves.

2. Obama is President and there’s nothing they can do about it, it drives them nuts so they desperately look for every single, pithy little thing they can use to attack him, even if this leads to illogical theories, contradictory statements or abandoning previously held positions.

3. They’ve beaten all the well known right wing conspiracy theories/memes to death and are throwing crap at the wall to see if anything sticks.

4. The right wing media machine is more about making money than anything else. Like I said above, they’ve exhausted all the other conspiracy theories and anti-Obama stuff that’s already been done and they are in dire need of something new to come up to net them book sales/viewers/listeners/readers, etc.

38 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:24:01pm

re: #35 klys and whatnot

I made my point with 2 posts, then left.

Obdicut is doing a good enough job dealing with him/her, and if someone else will do this arguing in this case, why should I? Save it for something I can really invest myself in emotionally, not the bigot who comes at a dime a dozen.

39 Tigger2  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:24:08pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

I mean, there has been some really weird shit coming out of the right lately. Seriously weird shit. Disturbingly weird shit.

Disturbingly weird shit that might have the effect of driving even more people away from the GOP.

40 Kragar  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:24:27pm

re: #35 klys and whatnot

I like how everyone is just kind of apathetic about Stabby at this point.

Who?
/

41 Randall Gross  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:24:59pm

Texas man being questioned in relation to the Ricin letters.

nbcnewyork.com

42 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:26:55pm

re: #35 klys and whatnot

I like how everyone is just kind of apathetic about Stabby at this point.

He just argues so badly, I think some pity crops up.

43 lawhawk  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:27:08pm

re: #41 Randall Gross

Lemme guess without reading the article or anything - it was a liberal plant. /

44 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:27:35pm

re: #42 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Thank You!

45 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:28:00pm

re: #43 lawhawk

Lemme guess without reading the article or anything - it was a liberal plant. /

An shrubbery!

46 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:29:04pm

re: #42 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

He just argues so badly, I think some pity crops up.

Either that or exhaustion.

On the bright side, I have finished the wedding photo albums for my parents and my in-laws! They will be here in time for me to give them to the families at graduation.

…It’s only been two and a half years since the wedding.

47 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:30:34pm

Oh, for anyone else who likes photobooks, AdoramaPix is doing 30% off their photobooks through the end of today.

Which may be slightly related to my above post.

Their quality is fantastic.

48 Tigger2  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:31:01pm

re: #41 Randall Gross

Texas man being questioned in relation to the Ricin letters.

nbcnewyork.com

I don’t know if it’s him but if they catch the person that sent them he should be tried as a terrorist.

49 The Ghost of a Flea  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:32:21pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

I mean, there has been some really weird shit coming out of the right lately. Seriously weird shit. Disturbingly weird shit.

When tribal affiliation trumps skepticism, and veracity is measured by affiliation, you’re going to see this kind of snowball effect of conspiracy theories. You can’t back out without refuting that vital affiliation-as-identity component…and if you do, you’re going to be punished…so you just keep plunging deeper.

The only thing sicker than the true believers are the people that, are going to throw more gasoline on the conflagration of crazy, because they profit it in some way.

50 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:32:56pm

re: #1 lawhawk

Despite how insane Beck sounds (and he is absolutely insane), there’s far too many people who buy into his nonsense and believe it - hook, line, and stinker.

And how is it that Beck came up with this before Alex Jones? I smell conspiracy!

That isn’t conspiracy you smell.

51 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:33:52pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Is it me or is the right getting even crazier

more

desperate than usual lately?

Nope.

52 wrenchwench  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:34:07pm

re: #46 klys and whatnot

Either that or exhaustion.

On the bright side, I have finished the wedding photo albums for my parents and my in-laws! They will be here in time for me to give them to the families at graduation.

…It’s only been two and a half years since the wedding.

Better start working on the graduation album.

53 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:34:53pm

re: #50 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

That isn’t conspiracy you smell.

Ooh, that smell
Can’t you smell that smell?
Ooh, that smell
The smell of Beck surrounds you, yeah…

54 freetoken  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:35:02pm

Beck is not new, just the latest in the use of new technology to do old things.

He’s a mix of George Noory/Art Bell and their predecessors, with the Skousen/Laughlin strand of religio-Americanism.

There’s a sucker born every minute.

55 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:35:42pm

Charles, just noted something. Are you adding a carriage return in front of and after the wingnut font?

56 Dr Lizardo  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:35:44pm

OT, but I just got done watching Steven Soderbergh’s Behind The Candelabra.

Solid film, standout performance by Michael Douglas as Liberace, Matt Damon was solid as Scott Thorson, the supporting cast, including Scott Bakula, Dan Ackroyd, and Paul Reiser were top-notch. Good production values, good script and overall, very well-done.

Were it eligible for Academy Award consideration, I’d say Mr. Douglas would be a shoe-in for a Best Actor nod. His Liberace is absolutely dead-on; he captured Liberace’s speech and mannerisms to perfection.

Dr. Lizardo’s Video Pick of the Week. 3 1/2 out of 4 stars.

57 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:35:57pm

re: #52 wrenchwench

Better start working on the graduation album.

Hahaha.

I figure my next album will be personal and of travel photography.

Like this.

58 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:36:16pm

Actually, upon further reflection, there’s almost an addiction like component from the behavior of the right:

- First, come up with a bunch of crazy sounding but not totally implausible conspiracy theories to get people’s attention

- After awhile, as these theories become the norm, they don’t draw attention anymore.

- So then you come up with even crazier and more insane theories to draw attention again.

- Eventually those theories become the norm and people get tired of them.

- Lather, rinse repeat

It’s just like always needing a stronger hit to get the high.

59 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:36:46pm

re: #50 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

That isn’t conspiracy you smell.

Do you smell what the Beck is cooking?

(…actually nevermind, NO ONE wants to smell that!)

60 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:38:27pm

re: #58 Eclectic Cyborg

Actually, upon further reflection, there’s almost an addiction like component from the behavior of the right:

- First, come up with a bunch of crazy sounding but not totally implausible conspiracy theories to get people’s attention

- After awhile, as these theories become the norm, they don’t draw attention anymore.

- So then you come up with even crazier and more insane theories to draw attention again.

- Eventually those theories become the norm and people get tired of them.

- Lather, rinse repeat

It’s just like always needing a stronger hit to get the high.

I think with the internet, we are seeing a lot of recycling.

61 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:39:28pm

More OT:

Based on Lizard recommendations, I finally picked up The New Best Recipe and it arrived today. I cannot wait to dive into cooking from it.

62 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:40:19pm

re: #60 FemNaziBitch

I think with the internet, we are seeing a lot of recycling.

Haven’t checked for a while but is the DHS still taking over the universe with their MRAP “tanks” and “billions of buwetts?”

63 PhillyPretzel  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:40:31pm

re: #61 klys and whatnot

Cook’s Illustrated?

64 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:40:52pm

re: #61 klys and whatnot

More OT:

Based on Lizard recommendations, I finally picked up The New Best Recipe and it arrived today. I cannot wait to dive into cooking from it.

I’ve been experimenting with bookbinding. I’m making a prototype picture book for Father’s day. Combining my love of Photoshop with my love of books.

65 EPR-radar  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:41:16pm

re: #60 FemNaziBitch

I think with the internet, we are seeing a lot of recycling.

It is possible that the internet can provide the kind of positive reinforcement for these obsessions that was previously only seen in mice with electrodes in the pleasure centers of their brains that could be activated with switches in the mouse cages.

66 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:41:48pm

re: #63 PhillyPretzel

Cook’s Illustrated?

Yep yep.

re: #64 FemNaziBitch

I’ve been experimenting with bookbinding. I’m making a prototype picture book for Father’s day. Combining my love of Photoshop with my love of books.

That sounds awesome! I really want to try something along those lines at some point now that I have free time. When I tear it away from cross stitching.

67 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:44:02pm

re: #65 EPR-radar

It is possible that the internet can provide the kind of positive reinforcement for these obsessions that was previously only seen in mice with electrodes in the pleasure centers of their brains that could be activated with switches in the mouse cages.

It’s the repetition— “say a lie over and over enough and it becomes the truth”.

Change the story just a little bit (it’s like playing the “rumor” game) as it travels the globe and it can seem like a whole new example.

I know I’ve been remiss in checking the dates of news stories that fall into my “hot button” topic areas. Luckily, I have you guys to set me straight and get me back in the habit of proper fact checking.

Many don’t have even the basic understanding of logical thinking, the ability to evaluate a source or friends who set them straight when needed.

68 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:45:00pm

re: #64 FemNaziBitch

I’ve been experimenting with bookbinding. I’m making a prototype picture book for Father’s day. Combining my love of Photoshop with my love of books.

Also, for Father’s day this year, both my dad and my father-in-law get to watch me get my hood.

I figure a present is kind of superfluous.

69 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:45:33pm

re: #54 freetoken

Beck is not new, just the latest in the use of new technology to do old things.

He’s a mix of George Noory/Art Bell and their predecessors, with the Skousen/Laughlin strand of religio-Americanism.

There’s a sucker born every minute.

And a reminder that Romney was a devotee of Skousen, while simultaneously seeming kind of ignorant about him.

motherjones.com

70 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:46:34pm

re: #66 klys and whatnot

Yep yep.

re: #64 FemNaziBitch

That sounds awesome! I really want to try something along those lines at some point now that I have free time. When I tear it away from cross stitching.

ooooh, you could bind your cross stitching!

Of course, in order to do this, I first have to do a study of book binding techniques thruout history and around the world. Did you know the MesoAmerican were making a paper called “amante” at the same time people in Northern Afrika were making papyrus? The Chinese developed ink like 5000 years ago?

kewl stuff

71 Charles Johnson  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:49:01pm

re: #55 Bubblehead II

The [wingnut] tag is a block level tag, denoting block-headedness.

72 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:49:44pm

re: #70 FemNaziBitch

ooooh, you could bind your cross stitching!

Of course, in order to do this, I first have to do a study of book binding techniques thruout history and around the world. Did you know the MesoAmerican were making a paper called “amante” at the same time people in Northern Afrika were making papyrus? The Chinese developed ink like 5000 years ago?

kewl stuff

I know some folks who have done ‘books’ of cross stitch. It doesn’t tend to lend itself well to the projects I lean towards, though. My current project for this trip (setting the big one aside with all the travel, because although it can travel well, lighting conditions can make working on it more difficult) has been a 5x7 piece for the friend that I stayed with this past week. At the current rate it should be done in another week or two and then I will just need to get it framed and shipped off. I am fond of the frayed-edge look on my smaller pieces like this one, where it will look appropriately rustic.

I discovered a fantastic cross stitch store in the Baltimore area while I was visiting. It is probably a good thing I had no knowledge of its existence when I was there for undergrad.

I came home with more projects than I left with.

73 wrenchwench  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:49:59pm

Later, lizards.

74 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:52:00pm

re: #73 wrenchwench

Later, lizards.

This image is strangely familiar…

Oh yes, that’s what happens when we pet the Problem Child for too long.

75 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:53:21pm

re: #72 klys and whatnot

I know some folks who have done ‘books’ of cross stitch. It doesn’t tend to lend itself well to the projects I lean towards, though. My current project for this trip (setting the big one aside with all the travel, because although it can travel well, lighting conditions can make working on it more difficult) has been a 5x7 piece for the friend that I stayed with this past week. At the current rate it should be done in another week or two and then I will just need to get it framed and shipped off. I am fond of the frayed-edge look on my smaller pieces like this one, where it will look appropriately rustic.

I discovered a fantastic cross stitch store in the Baltimore area while I was visiting. It is probably a good thing I had no knowledge of its existence when I was there for undergrad.

I came home with more projects than I left with.

I was thinking you could use it as the cover of a photo albumn —like people use cross stitch or needle point for chair cushion … It could look very nice.

76 Political Atheist  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:54:03pm

re: #59 Eclectic Cyborg


The Beck recipe. Two parts bullshit, one rhetoric, one conspiracy, a dash of affectations, a smear of vapo rub. No oven required this recipe cooks itself.

78 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:55:07pm

re: #76 Political Atheist

The Beck recipe. Two parts bullshit, one rhetoric, one conspiracy, a dash of affectations, a smear of vapo rub. No oven required this recipe cooks itself.

You forgot the fake tears.

79 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:55:31pm

re: #76 Political Atheist

The Beck recipe. Two parts bullshit, one rhetoric, one conspiracy, a dash of affectations, a smear of vapo rub. No oven required this recipe cooks itself.

you forgot Ego, Self-Righteousness, and Greed.

80 freetoken  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:55:36pm

re: #78 Eclectic Cyborg

You forgot the fake tears.

That’s where the vapor rub comes in.

81 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:55:40pm

re: #75 FemNaziBitch

I was thinking you could use it as the cover of a photo albumn —like people use cross stitch or needle point for chair cushion … It could look very nice.

I have done one or two greeting cards this way - the problem is that the amount of work relative to the proportion of impact tends to be on the smaller side and I don’t stitch fast enough for that to work.

I need to do this piece for my friends as well, as I discovered it this week. Their son’s name is Timmy. He is a little flirt.

With respect to the previous discussion of Patrick Stewart, there is an awesome TNG crew pattern that is also calling my name from the same seller.

82 Charles Johnson  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:56:56pm

Testing something.

83 freetoken  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:57:18pm

re: #82 Charles Johnson

Testing something.

Intercontinental ballistic missile?

84 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:57:21pm

re: #81 klys and whatnot

I have done one or two greeting cards this way - the problem is that the amount of work relative to the proportion of impact tends to be on the smaller side and I don’t stitch fast enough for that to work.

I need to do this piece for my friends as well, as I discovered it this week. Their son’s name is Timmy. He is a little flirt.

With respect to the previous discussion of Patrick Stewart, there is an awesome TNG crew pattern that is also calling my name from the same seller.

OMG! I love that.

85 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:57:37pm

re: #83 freetoken

Intercontinental ballistic missile?

National Broadcasting Service

86 freetoken  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:58:10pm

re: #85 FemNaziBitch

Emergency Broadcasting Service.

87 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:58:55pm

re: #86 freetoken

Emergency Broadcasting Service.

Really Not That Important Broadcasting Service.

88 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 5:59:03pm

re: #83 freetoken

Intercontinental ballistic missile?

Like this?

Photo from the Minuteman Missile National Historic Site tour.

89 The Ghost of a Flea  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:05:36pm

re: #67 FemNaziBitch

It’s the repetition— “say a lie over and over enough and it becomes the truth”.

Change the story just a little bit (it’s like playing the “rumor” game) as it travels the globe and it can seem like a whole new example.

I know I’ve been remiss in checking the dates of news stories that fall into my “hot button” topic areas. Luckily, I have you guys to set me straight and get me back in the habit of proper fact checking.

Many don’t have even the basic understanding of logical thinking, the ability to evaluate a source or friends who set them straight when needed.

Part of the parallel information system of wingnuttery is an anti-intellectual scorn for logic, source-checking, and the empirical process test/re-test. Veracity is tribal, and data will be hammered until it fits the party line—ironically like the USSR’s Lysenkoism. Like with the “natural breadwinner” thing earlier today…none of the wingnut commenters are going to actually engage with critics on ethology, or psychology, or anthropology studies that void their assertion. It was proclaimed, they approve one another’s tribal credentials, so discussions over.

What should really scare the shit out of us is that this same thought process of Veracity=Authority=Tribe is applied to stuff like civil rights and moral considerations regarding killing/imprisoning/hurting people.

90 jaunte  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:06:29pm

Whatever happened to “Obama’s Private Army?”

91 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:07:14pm

Early reflections on reading the cookbook:

Do you really think I’m going to blanch carrots for the crudite platter?
Who trims the membrane off the inside of green peppers?
How did people learn what foods were before the Internet?

92 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:08:03pm

re: #88 klys and whatnot

Like this?

Photo from the Minutemen Missile National Historic Site tour.

pantex.com

93 Iwouldprefernotto  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:08:07pm

re: #91 klys and whatnot

Early reflections on reading the cookbook:

Do you really think I’m going to blanch carrots for the crudite platter?
Who trims the membrane off the inside of green peppers?
How did people learn what foods were before the Internet?

What are cookbooks?

I’ll take easy questions for 200 Alex.

94 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:10:23pm

re: #93 Iwouldprefernotto

What are cookbooks?

I’ll take easy questions for 200 Alex.

To be fair this one actually spells out what their goals are in understandable terms so I know what to expect from the recipe.

I still refuse to blanch my carrots, though. I am of the opinion that very few veggies taste better cooked than raw.

95 freetoken  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:10:34pm

The world marches on… and on, and I wonder if the ACA covers the following what the outcry will be amongst the usual crowd?

From the European Human Genetics Conference 2013 planner:

ES2.1 - Integration of Microarray Technology into Prenatal Diagnosis

New genetic technologies have quickly entered obstetrical care providing an ever-increasing amount of information about the fetus. Less than 5 years ago, karyotyping was the predominant tool for genetic evaluation of the fetus and was used predominately for aneuploidy detection and the identification of relatively large genomic changes of 7-10 million base pairs or larger. More recently, microarray technology has been introduced into prenatal evaluation and has the ability to identify much smaller genomic changes (microdeletions and duplications). With this increased resolution has come the knowledge that smaller findings also have significant clinical implications and are not infrequent in routine prenatal testing.

This genetic knowledge has allowed improved counseling for pregnancies identified with fetal structural anomalies, in which approximately 6% of such cases with a normal karyotype will have a genomic cause identified by microarray testing. Approximately 1% or more of structurally normal pregnancies also have clinically relevant genomic findings, suggesting that all pregnant couples should consider invasive testing with microarray analysis.

This increasing ability to evaluate the fetal genome comes with significant responsibility for clinicians. These technologic advances have rapidly outpaced our ability to thoughtfully and appropriately use the information. Pretest and post-test counseling must be adapted so they are informative, prepare patients for the reproductive decisions they must make, and still be able to be accomplished within a feasible and timely period.

The Tea Partiers are still in future shock - what will they do as medicine moves on to determining zygote viability and it becomes standard practice to do genetic tests, to allow parents a choice?

Will the Personhood group try to make the US into El Salvador?

96 engineer cat  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:10:54pm

Krazy Glen And The Sekrit Blackberry Of Doom

coming to brainz near you

97 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:14:17pm

re: #90 jaunte

Whatever happened to “Obama’s Private Army?”

oh yeah, he bought all that ammo

/:0

98 Occam's Guillotine  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:14:17pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

I mean, there has been some really weird shit coming out of the right lately. Seriously weird shit. Disturbingly weird shit.

Tertiary syphilis? Like much of what we see from them, it was common in the 17th century after all.

99 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:14:58pm

Someone explain rebelmouse to me.

100 jaunte  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:15:38pm

re: #97 FemNaziBitch

They’re being awfully quiet with all that ammo…

101 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:16:43pm

re: #100 jaunte

They’re being awfully quiet with all that ammo…

that’s because they’ve probably already sold it to the enemy …

102 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:16:56pm

re: #100 jaunte

They’re being awfully quiet with all that ammo…

Too quiet.

103 efuseakay  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:19:22pm

re: #5 lawhawk

Glenn Beck has crossed over once and for all into Eric Cartman. They are one and the same.

Glenn is worse than Dale Gribble.

104 freetoken  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:19:49pm

P06.29 - Genetic syndromes are frequently found in patients manifesting with primary neuropsychiatric disorders and developmental co-morbidities

Background: Many genetic syndromes present with psychiatric disorders. We aim to determine the role and prevalence of hidden genetic conditions in patients with psychiatric disorders and comorbidities. This has the potential to significantly impact the standard of care and treatment of selected individuals with psychiatric impairment. Methods: We prospectively recruit patients ≥16 years of age with psychiatric disorder(s) and at least one of 1) neurologic abnormality, 2) developmental delay (DD), autism spectrum disorder (ASD) or pervasive DD (PDD), 3) dysmorphic features, 4) congenital anomalies or 5) family history of DD, ASD or PDD. A clinical database of phenotypic correlates is being established to delineate the highest yield data that lead to the most effective and efficient diagnosis of genetic syndromes in patients with neuropsychiatric disorders. Results: Of the initial 62 patients recruited, 15 (24.2%) have been diagnosed with genetic conditions. This includes seven patients with six different single gene disorders, six patients with six distinct chromosomal variants and two patients with different metabolic disorders. Discussion: Our preliminary results have begun to demonstrate that genetic syndromes are common in patients with primary psychiatric disorders. Many of the genetic conditions identified in this cohort have implications for medical surveillance, management and, in some cases, treatment. The high diagnostic yield in patients with “psychiatric plus” phenotypes demonstrates the significance of psychiatric disorders in genetic syndromes and vice versa. Identifying phenotypic ‘red flags’ will enable development of algorithms to make important, possibly treatable, genetic diagnoses in psychiatric patients in a more efficient manner.

♫♫♪♩♩….

105 freetoken  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:20:46pm

That was me, whistling past our Gattaca-graveyard future.

106 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:22:35pm

re: #104 freetoken

P06.29 - Genetic syndromes are frequently found in patients manifesting with primary neuropsychiatric disorders and developmental co-morbidities

♫♫♪♩♩….

Does this mean that some individuals demonstrating a syndrome will be treated and the rest elected to Congress?

107 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:23:05pm

re: #105 freetoken

That was me, whistling past our Gattaca-graveyard future.

You forget, humans are involved. Nothing can work that efficiently.

108 freetoken  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:23:57pm

re: #107 FemNaziBitch

You forget, humans are involved. Nothing can work that efficiently.

Oh, no worry, we can replace the old model human with a new and improved, Sapiens 2.0 .

109 freetoken  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:24:59pm

I know I shouldn’t be giving Beck any pointers, but Glenn, if you are reading this, you are missing out by not playing your audience on the coming eugenic horrors of “genetic counseling”.

110 Dr Lizardo  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:25:55pm

re: #109 freetoken

I know I shouldn’t be giving Beck any pointers, but Glenn, if you are reading this, you are missing out by not playing your audience on the coming eugenic horrors of “genetic counseling”.

Can I get Khan Noonien Singh as my genetic counselor?!

111 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:25:59pm

re: #108 freetoken

Oh, no worry, we can replace the old model human with a new and improved, Sapiens 2.0 .

Does that mean I can get Positronic Brain?

112 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:27:17pm

re: #111 FemNaziBitch

Does that mean I can get Positronic Brain?

It means people reading Brave New World today are rooting for different characters than we did in the ’50s.

113 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:28:54pm

re: #104 freetoken

P06.29 - Genetic syndromes are frequently found in patients manifesting with primary neuropsychiatric disorders and developmental co-morbidities

♫♫♪♩♩….

Your test result show that you may be prone to _______ therefore we are going to prescribe you some _______ which you’ll have to take for the rest of your life. Result? Profit!

114 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:29:15pm

re: #71 Charles Johnson

The [wingnut] tag is a block level tag, denoting block-headedness.

So no carriage returns? Sorry, My days as a sysop are far in the past. You know, when all when had to deal with was assci, not html 4 or 5.

115 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:30:38pm

re: #114 Bubblehead II

So no carriage returns? Sorry, My days as a sysop are far in the past. You know, when all when had to deal with was assci, not html 4 or 5.

It’s a feature of block level tags, if my remembered CSS serves me well. He’d have to change it to a span level tag to avoid it.*

* Caveat: it’s been 8 years since I actively wrote any websites. YMMV.

116 AlexRogan  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:31:07pm

re: #28 lawhawk

“Final American Revolution” is too close to “Final Solution” for my comfort.

117 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:33:03pm

This just sucks.

118 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:33:41pm

Cookbook tidbit:

Our first attempt was to use beer and a spicy commercial seasoning, but this was a near disaster; the shrimp for shrimp cocktail should not taste like a New Orleans crab boil.

119 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:37:43pm

I have had this earworm all day long. You can all enjoy it!

This is the kind of classy earworm from listening to classical music all the time!
Youtube Video

120 Dr Lizardo  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:38:03pm

re: #117 Vicious Babushka

This just sucks.

Sad, but not surprising. I forgot which state it was - it was in the Deep South - but something like 30% or so of GOP voters said that interracial marriages should be against the law.

121 jaunte  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:38:09pm

re: #117 Vicious Babushka

Cute ad. The complainers are insane.

122 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:38:28pm

re: #117 Vicious Babushka

This just sucks.

Reddit

123 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:38:56pm

re: #120 Dr Lizardo

Sad, but not surprising. I forgot which state it was - it was in the Deep South - but something like 30% or so of GOP voters said that interracial marriages should be against the law.

I’m going to guess 40% and Mississippi.

124 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:39:11pm

re: #120 Dr Lizardo

Sad, but not surprising. I forgot which state it was - it was in the Deep South - but something like 30% or so of GOP voters said that interracial marriages should be against the law.

huffingtonpost.com

Mississippi.

125 Dr Lizardo  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:39:58pm

re: #123 klys and whatnot

I’m going to guess 40% and Mississippi.

I think you’re right. That jogged my memory. It was 30% or so of white GOP voters in Mississippi.

126 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:40:04pm

re: #123 klys and whatnot

I’m going to guess 40% and Mississippi.

I will admit my incorrect percentage as it was apparently 29%.

127 Dr Lizardo  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:41:08pm

re: #124 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

huffingtonpost.com

Mississippi.

Thanks.

Hard to believe.

128 Charles Johnson  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:41:44pm

Been in MySQL backup hell all day. Oh lawd, can’t you hear me callin’.

129 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:43:14pm

re: #115 klys and whatnot

It’s a feature of block level tags, if my remembered CSS serves me well. He’d have to change it to a span level tag to avoid it.*

* Caveat: it’s been 8 years since I actively wrote any websites. YMMV.

Bit touchy, That is all. I did my bit to bring some of this abount. Haven BBS in Groton, Ct. As well as Haven BBS in Twin Falls, Id. I was one of the first to bring RIME to Southeren Idaho.

Tend to get a little pissy when the Internet operators blow us “little guys” off.
That is all

130 jaunte  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:43:43pm

re: #127 Dr Lizardo

twitter.com

131 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:45:45pm

re: #126 klys and whatnot

I will admit my incorrect percentage as it was apparently 29%.

Digging into cross tab hell, 45% of self-identified “very conservative” people in Mississippi say it should be illegal. So do 55% of self-identified “very liberal” people. The only case where more people say it should be legal is among self-idenfitied “somewhat conservative folks, at 45% versus 42%. More men are against it, at 36% to 52%, versus women at 45% to 39%. The response from the 18-29 year olds is also depressing (40 to 46).

Nothing about Republicans. This poll was in April 2011.

That being said, my main takeaway is that people are fucked up.

132 Dr Lizardo  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:46:42pm

re: #130 jaunte

twitter.com

Oh my.

That’s enough derpitude for one day. Good night, Lizards.

133 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:47:04pm

re: #129 Bubblehead II

Bit touchy, That is all. I did my bit to bring some of this abount. Haven BBS in Groton, Ct. As well as Haven BBS in Twin Falls, Id. I was one of the first to bring RIME to Southeren Idaho.

Tend to get a little pissy when the Internet operators blow us “little guys” off.
That is all

No worries, all I know about it from when I was writing websites in high school, which I admit is a long ways ago. I just happened to come in at a time when that was the new big thing, which is why I have some idea of what it’s dealing with.

134 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:47:24pm

re: #131 klys and whatnot

Digging into cross tab hell, 45% of self-identified “very conservative” people in Mississippi say it should be illegal. So do 55% of self-identified “very liberal” people. The only case where more people say it should be legal is among self-idenfitied “somewhat conservative folks, at 45% versus 42%. More men are against it, at 36% to 52%, versus women at 45% to 39%. The response from the 18-29 year olds is also depressing (40 to 46).

Nothing about Republicans. This poll was in April 2011.

That being said, my main takeaway is that people are fucked up.

My wife and I still get sideways glances on the street and in restaurants.

135 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:48:00pm

re: #131 klys and whatnot

It was a poll of likely GOP voters.

136 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:48:34pm

re: #134 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

My wife and I still get sideways glances on the street and in restaurants.

:(

My husband and I dodge a lot of those mostly because he looks young for his age. Thankfully age differences are a lot harder to detect than ethnicity.

137 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:49:41pm

re: #135 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

It was a poll of likely GOP voters.

…What the hell are very liberal folks doing in a poll of likely GOP voters?

Ahem.

We can see where I skipped straight ahead to the cross tabs. >.>

It probably explains the high percentage for the “liberal” folks, along with why all the questions were re: Palin and Romney.

138 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:49:52pm

re: #134 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

My wife and I still get sideways glances on the street and in restaurants.

One of the cool things about NYC is the huge number of interracial couples of every description. Just people being people, bonin’ their way across the cultural divides.

139 freetoken  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:51:27pm

re: #138 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

…Just people being people, bonin’ their way across the cultural divides.

Speaking of which:

ES9.1 - A genetics history of our species

I will start by presenting recent works on the history of our species based on genetic data. I will present our recent origin out of Africa, the admixture with Neandertal and Denisova. Then I will focus my talk on different evolutionary forces that have shaped our genetic diversity: natural selection, population expansions, migration. In particular, I will present some examples on the impact of cultural behaviors and their transmission on genetic diversity. This second part includes ecological inheritance through Niche construction: there are now several documented cases where, by changing our environment, we create new selective pressure. Transmission of cultural traits can also impact our genetic diversity by limiting gene flow among populations, or shaping intra-population genetic diversity. In conclusion, cultural transmission interacts with biological evolution in shaping our genetic diversity.

140 AlexRogan  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:52:40pm

re: #54 freetoken

Beck is not new, just the latest in the use of new technology to do old things.

He’s a mix of George Noory/Art Bell and their predecessors, with the Skousen/Laughlin strand of religio-Americanism.

There’s a sucker born every minute.

Hey, at least Art Bell was entertaining and engaging to listen to, most of the time; I spent many a night listening to CtCAM when I worked security 1200-0800 during the mid-late 90s at the old Peterbilt plant here in Nashville.

George Noori still isn’t fit to carry Art’s jockstrap, so to speak.

141 freetoken  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:53:10pm

One last one from our Gattaca-future:

ES9.2 - Tracing back geographic origine and phenotypes using genetic data

Human migration history out of Africa into (almost) all worldwide regions left various genetic footprints that can be detected in modern populations and individuals around the world. For instance, genomic signatures allow tracing back the bio-geographic origin of a population and a person either via large number of genetic markers or via specifically ascertained ancestry-informative DNA markers, which can be relevant in medical, anthropological and forensic studies and is important for mapping disease and other genes. The geographic resolution available with DNA ancestry testing varies between worldwide regions but in general larger geographic regions such as continents can be inferred from genetic data more reliably than subregions within continents. For some geographic regions the use of Y-chromosomal or mitochondrial DNA markers allows subregional paternal or maternal ancestry inference not easily provided with autosomal DNA markers. Moreover, genomic signatures shaped by evolutionary forces in combination with migration history allow a better understanding how phenotypic diversity such as appearance observed in humans around the world arose. Recent progress in the genetics of human appearance phenotypes not only delivered numerous genes, some of which show clear signatures of positive selection, but also allows to predict certain appearance traits solely from genetic data, which can be relevant in anthropological, historical and forensic studies. This talk will provide an overview on genetic population substructure around the world and how this knowledge can be used to infer the bio-geographic ancestry from a person’s DNA. Furthermore, this talk will highlight the genetic basis of human appearance traits, their evolutionary history and how this knowledge can be used to predict appearance from a person’s DNA.

142 efuseakay  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:54:18pm

re: #118 klys and whatnot

Cookbook tidbit:

White wine, white wine vinegar, water, lemons, tarragon, bay leaves, white peppercorns. :)

143 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:54:57pm

re: #129 Bubblehead II

Point of Fact. The Groton BBS was ran on a C-64 Using the All American BBS software. Storage was a Commodore D-9060 10 Meg hard drive using a Skyles Electric work IEEE-488 inerface.

The Twin Falls BBS was ran on a Intel/Microsoft 3.xx platform using the PCBoard 15.5 A software.

We have come a long way baby.

Charles, I respect what you have done and have put up with. Been there, done it.

Please extend to me the same respect

144 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:55:02pm

re: #141 freetoken

One last one from our Gattaca-future:

ES9.2 - Tracing back geographic origine and phenotypes using genetic data

Looks like he’s a little ahead of himself there.

145 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:55:20pm

Hmm. This guacamole recipe does not call for a splash of tequila.

The real question is if they considered it, because I consider it the key to fantastic guacamole, thanks to having it that way in San Miguel de Allende.

146 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:56:11pm

re: #142 efuseakay

White wine, white wine vinegar, water, lemons, tarragon, bay leaves, white peppercorns. :)

Now if I actually liked shrimp…

(It’s a texture thing.)

147 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:58:32pm

re: #141 freetoken

Is there any subject you’re not a doomer on?

148 jaunte  Thu, May 30, 2013 6:59:41pm

Senate GOP Blocks $60 Billion Infrastructure Measure

Republicans in the Senate Thursday dealt President Barack Obama the third in a string of defeats on his stimulus-style jobs agenda, blocking a $60 billion measure for building and repairing infrastructure like roads and rail lines.

Supporters of the failed measure said it would have created tens of thousands of construction jobs and lifted the still-struggling economy. But Republicans unanimously opposed it for its tax surcharge on the wealthy and spending totals they said were too high.

149 freetoken  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:00:10pm

To cap off the our little discourse into our genetically perfect future, here is an essay published in tomorrows Lancet which is a recommended read:

The lure of the epigenome

[…] If the gene is no longer understood as the fundamental force of human life and is not “part physicist’s atom and part Plato’s soul”, as the philosopher of science Evelyn Fox Keller put it, then the hoary problem of the relationship of nature and nurture must once again be confronted. Some epigeneticists argue, for example, that DNA methylation furnishes an example of a molecular link between nature and nurture. Evidence for this link initially accrued primarily from work with animals but, over the past decade, research in connection with mental health has proliferated. Not only have the effects of early life adversity on DNA methylation been documented, but evidence is accruing about the way in which aberrant methylation patterns might contribute to the aetiology of depression, psychosis, post-traumatic stress disorder, substance misuse, suicide, and other conditions.

[…] Ultimately, the function of a gene can only be understood within the cellular environment in which it operates. In turn, this cellular environment is itself endlessly modified by signals emanating from other cells, the organism itself, and external environmental sources.

[…]

150 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:01:12pm

re: #136 klys and whatnot

:(

My husband and I dodge a lot of those mostly because he looks young for his age. Thankfully age differences are a lot harder to detect than ethnicity.

Me and the hubs.

151 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:01:22pm

Why there’s nothing genetic and DNA testing can’t do Jim. Care for a Camel Filterless? Smooth as silk.

Why thanks Bob. Think I will. For my next interview I’ll be taking my Jetpack 1000 over to meet with another genetic scientist who believes he can predict hair quality in infants and anti-social behavior through a simple DNA test.

[Music jungle.]

152 Targetpractice  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:01:26pm

re: #148 jaunte

Senate GOP Blocks $60 Billion Infrastructure Measure

Translation: Republicans are still protecting the rich and don’t like spending unless it’s for the military.

153 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:01:39pm

re: #150 klys and whatnot

Me and the hubs.

Note you cannot tell but I am slowly being dropped here.

154 Romantic Heretic  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:02:49pm

re: #108 freetoken

Oh, no worry, we can replace the old model human with a new and improved, Sapiens 2.0 .

To paraphrase Einstein, technology has changed everything, except the way we think.

155 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:04:40pm

Honey, the DNA tests are back.

Well, what are the results?

I’m afraid it doesn’t look good. DNA tests show that we would parent ugly children because of your DNA. I’m sorry Harold, but I want a divorce.

[Dramatic music.]

156 Targetpractice  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:05:17pm

Seriously, if Obama proposed a bill that would repeal the ACA and funnel the money not spent directly into the DoD, the GOP would want it passed the same day. They’d beat down the doors and trample their own aids underfoot to get it on his desk.

But ask the rich to put a few pennies in the collection plate to keep our national infrastructure from collapsing under its own weight? NEIN!

157 freetoken  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:06:25pm

re: #155 Gus

Image: genetic_analysis.png

158 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:06:25pm

Please sit down. Well, the DNA tests have returned. It appears that your child will be an exact replica of Glenn Beck. By the age of 4.

[Dun, dun, dun, dun.]

159 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:06:50pm

re: #156 Targetpractice

It’s natural selection. If you can’t afford a private plane everywhere you deserve what happens.

//////

160 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:08:19pm
161 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:08:40pm

You mean my little boy will be exactly like Glenn Beck? By the age of 4? That can’t be doc’. That’s impossible. We’ve done everything.

Now Harold. Calm down and have a seat. Care for a Camel Filterless?

Well sure doc’. I think I will. Thanks Dr. Bob.

162 jamesfirecat  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:09:45pm

Finish Bioshock Infinite on medium today replaying on hard. Also saddly had my first combat related death in the game in the last fight which sucks some but on the other hand if they are gonna change the games’ genere on me like that I guess failure is not too surprising.

Good game except for one thing, and saddly I complained about this backin Bioshock 2 and nobody seems to have noticed it.

Lets have the main character hold his gun in the right hand and cast magic spells with his left. Then lets have have the player hit the right button for magic spells and the left for his gun, there is no way that will be confusing!

163 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:09:46pm

re: #161 Gus

Image: doctors.jpg

164 Targetpractice  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:09:56pm

re: #160 Vicious Babushka

IT’S A BUBBLE! IT’LL POP ANY DAY! WE’RE ALL DOOMED!!!!

165 Targetpractice  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:10:52pm

re: #162 jamesfirecat

Finish Bioshock Infinite on medium today replaying on hard. Also saddly had my first combat related death in the game in the last fight which sucks some but on the other hand if they are gonna change the games’ genere on me like that I guess failure is not too surprising.

Good game except for one thing, and saddly I complained about this backin Bioshock 2 and nobody seems to have noticed it.

Lets have the main character hold his gun in the right hand and cast magic spells with his left. Then lets have have the player hit the right button for magic spells and the left for his gun, there is no way that will be confusing!

The genre switch, was that at Comstock House?

166 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:11:18pm

re: #163 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Image: doctors.jpg

Hey. That’s great music. What is that you’re listening to?

They call it swing Bob. Care for a Camel Filterless?

Why sure Joe.

167 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:12:51pm

Coming up next. The dangers of Communistic Atheism.

Brought to you by, Camel.

168 Varek Raith  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:13:29pm

*Checks to make sure he didn’t activate time machine*
Nope.
WTH???
:P

169 jamesfirecat  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:14:23pm

re: #165 Targetpractice

The genre switch, was that at Comstock House?

No having to have the final battle of the game be a defend object x with limited health while every so often you call in a super weapon but you need to realize that you have to run from side to sides to find proper targets for the super weapon in question. It’s like they decided to take the final battle of bioshock 2 and overly complicate it while stripping out all the fun doodads you could do to set up the final battleground before you sent in the enemy waves in Bioshock 2.

Comstock House I managed to blow through without a problem thanks to having bought 90 rounds for my carbine and picking up whatever hand cannons, pistols or other weapons as needed. Also upgraded murder of crows.

170 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:16:11pm

re: #165 Targetpractice

The genre switch, was that at Comstock House?

COMSTOCK

*grrr*

171 Targetpractice  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:16:19pm

re: #168 Varek Raith

*Checks to make sure he didn’t activate time machine*
Nope.
WTH???
:P

There is nothing wrong with your computer monitor. Do not attempt to adjust the picture. We are now controlling the transmission.

/

172 freetoken  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:16:35pm

What got me on this genetics kick today was the study I linked downstairs, and the subsequent handling of it by various media.

Here’s another headline that is slightly deceptive:

Genetics plays role in education

While true, the study referenced showed only a tiny difference accounted by genetics, in the educational level achieved.

That story above does point that out in the story body, but the need to make a headline scream to get attention really does work against us, as many people just don’t read story bodies, or that headline sets up a preconception that becomes hard to dislodge.

173 Targetpractice  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:17:51pm

re: #169 jamesfirecat

No having to have the final battle of the game be a defend object x with limited health while every so often you call in a super weapon but you need to realize that you have to run from side to sides to find proper targets for the super weapon in question. It’s like they decided to take the final battle of bioshock 2 and overly complicate it while stripping out all the fun doodads you could do to set up the final battleground before you sent in the enemy waves in Bioshock 2.

Comstock House I managed to blow through without a problem thanks to having bought 90 rounds for my carbine and picking up whatever hand cannons, pistols or other weapons as needed. Also upgraded murder of crows.

Yeah, I just reached it in my first playthrough, and it’s rather grating on me how we went from “fast-paced shooter” to “limited-ammo survival horror.” Ugh.

174 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:19:18pm

I have to laugh, Those of us who ran a BBS back in the day, We offered not only discussion threads, but games.

175 Kragar  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:19:42pm

I predict the Religious right will take this news story calmly and not blow it out of context.

Leading neuroscientist: Religious fundamentalism may be a ‘mental illness’ that can be ‘cured’

During a talk at the Hay Literary Festival in Wales on Wednesday, Kathleen Taylor was asked what positive developments she anticipated in neuroscience in the next 60 years.

“One of the surprises may be to see people with certain beliefs as people who can be treated,” she explained, according to The Times of London. “Somebody who has for example become radicalised to a cult ideology - we might stop seeing that as a personal choice that they have chosen as a result of pure free will and may start treating it as some kind of mental disturbance.”

“I am not just talking about the obvious candidates like radical Islam or some of the more extreme cults,” she explained. “I am talking about things like the belief that it is OK to beat your children. These beliefs are very harmful but are not normally categorized as mental illness.”

“In many ways that could be a very positive thing because there are no doubt beliefs in our society that do a heck of a lot of damage, that really do a lot of harm.”

In the introduction to her book, The Brain Supremacy, Taylor noted that scientists needed “to be careful when it comes to developing technologies which can slip through the skull to directly manipulate the brain.”

“They cannot be morally neutral, these world-shaping tools; when the aspect of the world in question is a human being, morality inevitably rears its hydra heads,” she wrote. “Technologies which profoundly change our relationship with the world around us cannot simply be tools, to be used for good or evil, if they alter our basic perception of what good and evil are.”

176 jamesfirecat  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:19:44pm

re: #173 Targetpractice

Yeah, I just reached it in my first playthrough, and it’s rather grating on me how we went from “fast-paced shooter” to “limited-ammo survival horror.” Ugh.

Ahh did you not go one with full ammo for your prefered weapons? Also once again I must admit the way that an upgraded murder of crows spreads from victim to victim to victim helped me a lot on there.

178 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:20:46pm

re: #174 Bubblehead II

I have to laugh, Those of us who ran a BBS back in the day, We offered not only discussion threads, but games.

My high school runs a BBS for students.

I think I still have a few of the old discussion threads from the political forum archived. I’m afraid to look.

Not because I was less liberal, but because I restrained myself slightly less when responding to idiots. In terms of word-count.

179 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:21:25pm

re: #113 Gus

Your test result show that you may be prone to _______ therefore we are going to prescribe you some _______ which you’ll have to take for the rest of your life. Result? Profit!

Ferengi!

180 jaunte  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:22:26pm

re: #175 Kragar

Leading neuroscientist: Religious fundamentalism may be a ‘mental illness’ that can be ‘cured’

We’ll need a Richter scale for the future Godwinning.

181 Targetpractice  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:23:41pm

re: #176 jamesfirecat

Ahh did you not go one with full ammo for your prefered weapons? Also once again I must admit the way that an upgraded murder of crows spreads from victim to victim to victim helped me a lot on there.

Oh, I’ve got plenty of ammo and upgraded Murder of Crows. I just hate making the choice between burning what ammo I do have stocked, knowing I’ve got a hellacious fight when I get upstairs, or putting up with the forced stealth sections.

182 dragonath  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:24:12pm

re: #1 lawhawk

It’s really depressing to see a lot of white low income working class people getting sucked into this. I see it all the time.

183 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:24:56pm

too funny!

184 Targetpractice  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:25:14pm

re: #175 Kragar

I predict the Religious right will take this news story calmly and not blow it out of context.

Leading neuroscientist: Religious fundamentalism may be a ‘mental illness’ that can be ‘cured’

Tune in tomorrow as Erick, Son of Erick, suddenly remembers how he hates science and declares Dr. Taylor should have stayed in the kitchen.

//

185 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:26:19pm

re: #175 Kragar

I predict the Religious right will take this news story calmly and not blow it out of context.

Leading neuroscientist: Religious fundamentalism may be a ‘mental illness’ that can be ‘cured’

Ugh. You know what? I hate stuff like this. It’s no surprise that the lead was written this way considering it’s at Raw Story. Neuroscience is still in its infancy. Most of it right now is either in basic form or it’s populated by a bunch of untrained political science majors looking at brain scans of which they have no clue as to what they’re looking at.

[Fade out with TedTalks theme.]

186 jamesfirecat  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:27:07pm

re: #181 Targetpractice

Oh, I’ve got plenty of ammo and upgraded Murder of Crows. I just hate making the choice between burning what ammo I do have stocked, knowing I’ve got a hellacious fight when I get upstairs, or putting up with the forced stealth sections.

Burn your ammo.

There are ony four boys of silence in the entire game and there is a big fight out with normal enemies who drop guns between the third and the fourth and the fourht only summons more guys with guns.

Set up traps, shoot boy of silence, let his minons run into trap shoot them dead proceed…

At least that worked for me on normal.

187 freetoken  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:28:17pm

Rape victim: Retaliation prevalent in military

A former Marine says she’s speaking publicly about her rape because victims are suffering the same retaliation that she encountered when she reported her sexual assault 14 years ago.

Stacey Thompson went public with her story Thursday in an exclusive interview with The Associated Press.

She says she paid heavily for reporting that her sergeant had drugged her and sexually assaulted her in his barracks in 1999 at a Marine base in Japan.

Thompson says her perpetrator was allowed to leave the Marine Corps, while she was kicked out with an other-than-honorable discharge for being drugged.

A Pentagon report released earlier this month found 62 percent of sexual assault victims in the military who reported being attacked say they faced some kind of retaliation afterward.

Isn’t this just more evidence that women shouldn’t be in the military?

Just trying to guess what a Dobbs panel with Erickson might say.

188 Targetpractice  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:28:54pm

re: #186 jamesfirecat

Burn your ammo.

There are ony four boys of silence in the entire game and there is a big fight out with normal enemies who drop guns between the third and the fourth and the fourht only summons more guys with guns.

Set up traps, shoot boy of silence, let his minons run into trap shoot them dead proceed…

At least that worked for me on normal.

I’ll probably take that approach. Not that I don’t like me some stealth, just hate when the only reward is perhaps a Voxaphone and some ammo.

189 EPR-radar  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:28:59pm

re: #186 jamesfirecat

What is the strategy thing you discuss? My usual ‘strategy’ in RPGs, especially for the final boss, is to get ridiculously over-powered…

190 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:29:10pm

re: #187 freetoken

Rape victim: Retaliation prevalent in military

Isn’t this just more evidence that women shouldn’t be in the military?

Just trying to guess what a Dobbs panel with Erickson might say.

Stories like this make me want to smash things.

191 freetoken  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:30:48pm

Arizonans love Joe:

Recall effort against Arizona’s Sheriff Joe Arpaio fails

Despite a recent court ruling that the department run by Maricopa County’s top cop used racial profiling in his quest to crack down on illegal immigration, a recall effort against Sheriff Joe Arpaio has failed.

On Thursday, members of Respect Arizona and Citizens for a Better Arizona — who launched the recall effort against Arpaio — failed to gather the necessary 335,000 valid voter signatures by the 5 p.m. deadline. The aim was to force a recall election.

[…]

Maybe Respect Arizona just didn’t try hard enough? Or, maybe Arizonans really like their racist sheriffs?

192 jamesfirecat  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:30:56pm

re: #189 EPR-radar

What is the strategy thing you discuss? My usual ‘strategy’ in RPGs, especially for the final boss, is to get ridiculously over-powered…

It’s a first person shooter so grinding is not really an option sadly.

193 jamesfirecat  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:31:24pm

re: #188 Targetpractice

I’ll probably take that approach. Not that I don’t like me some stealth, just hate when the only reward is perhaps a Voxaphone and some ammo.

He’ll I do not think there are even voxaphone rewards for stealth…

194 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:32:07pm

re: #189 EPR-radar

What is the strategy thing you discuss? My usual ‘strategy’ in RPGs, especially for the final boss, is to get ridiculously over-powered…

I may subscribe to your newsletter…

In undergrad, my Halo character was named chemistry. So either folks killed chemistry or chemistry killed them.

Why yes, I was a chem major.

195 Targetpractice  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:32:31pm

re: #193 jamesfirecat

He’ll I do not think there are even voxaphone rewards for stealth…

Then I guess I’ll do it for the challenge. That’s pretty much how I played DE:HR.

196 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:32:43pm

re: #191 freetoken

Arizonans love Joe:

Recall effort against Arizona’s Sheriff Joe Arpaio fails

Maybe Respect Arizona just didn’t try hard enough? Or, maybe Arizonans really like their racist sheriffs?

Arpaio won’t last long.

197 dragonath  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:32:55pm

re: #189 EPR-radar

Ys Book I and II. Wrap a rubber band around button, eat lunch…

UNLIMITED COSMIC POWER

198 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:33:02pm

re: #153 klys and whatnot

Note you cannot tell but I am slowly being dropped here.

I did notice you’re a skinny little thing.

199 EPR-radar  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:34:57pm

re: #192 jamesfirecat

It’s a first person shooter so grinding is not really an option sadly.

My total lack of twitch skills means that FPS is right out for me, as were all the classic arcade games.

I still remember the ‘oh shit’ moment I had when, after I had cleared the first screen of space invaders with an embarrassing number of attempts, the second screen came up, moving faster.

200 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:35:11pm

re: #198 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

I did notice you’re a skinny little thing.

I would love if this were still true.

It will be true again.

Fuck grad school.

My ego thanks you for the complement, because that is a sensitive area for me.

201 jamesfirecat  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:35:20pm

re: #195 Targetpractice

Then I guess I’ll do it for the challenge. That’s pretty much how I played DE:HR.

Whatever floats your boat but I think it is impossible to sneak by some of them.

Like I said Comstock house was not that bad for me but the final battle feels likea rip off of twos without it being the sort of culmination of everything you had earned up to that point that two was, where you are throwing our ball turrets, trap rivets, electrified spear lines, summoning up some security bots and Elenaor when you got the chance so as to better stand against a seemingly endless wave of splicers.

202 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:37:08pm

re: #150 klys and whatnot

Me and the hubs.

mmm…a man in a kilt…love it

203 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:37:38pm

re: #199 EPR-radar

My total lack of twitch skills means that FPS is right out for me, as were all the classic arcade games.

I still remember the ‘oh shit’ moment I had when, after I had cleared the first screen of space invaders with an embarrassing number of attempts, the second screen came up, moving faster.

I have played Portal and Portal 2.

What it mostly drove home is that I suck horribly. I managed Halo and Halo 2 in multiplayer mostly because I would hide and either snipe or pistol-snipe someone in the head. I was pretty good at that.

204 Targetpractice  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:37:55pm

re: #201 jamesfirecat

Whatever floats your boat but I think it is impossible to sneak by some of them.

Like I said Comstock house was not that bad for me but the final battle feels likea rip off of twos without it being the sort of culmination of everything you had earned up to that point that two was, where you are throwing our ball turrets, trap rivets, electrified spear lines, summoning up some security bots and Elenaor when you got the chance so as to better stand against a seemingly endless wave of splicers.

Yeah, tower defense is that genre that really grates on me when it’s forced into a game. Especially when it’s a “must win” battle, as opposed to a side quest that I can avoid. At least Elizabeth’s the easiest escort quest I’ve ever had in a game.

205 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:38:13pm

re: #202 Backwoods_Sleuth

mmm…a man in a kilt…love it

Don’t forget the ponytail!

/I got all my dreams in one, oh yeah.

206 Charles Johnson  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:38:30pm
207 Charles Johnson  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:38:44pm

Yup, testing.

208 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:39:00pm

re: #207 Charles Johnson

Yup, testing.

SQUIRREL.

209 Targetpractice  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:39:45pm

re: #207 Charles Johnson

Yup, testing.

What, there’s a test? Nobody told me there’d be a test!!

/

210 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:40:10pm

re: #205 klys and whatnot

Don’t forget the ponytail!

/I got all my dreams in one, oh yeah.

I haven’t had a pony tail for 10 years.

211 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:40:15pm

Dude, French onion soup is supposed to contain bread? The things you learn…

212 EPR-radar  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:40:43pm

re: #203 klys and whatnot

I have played Portal and Portal 2.

What it mostly drove home is that I suck horribly. I managed Halo and Halo 2 in multiplayer mostly because I would hide and either snipe or pistol-snipe someone in the head. I was pretty good at that.

I’m partway through Portal 2, cooperative mode. So far this is mainly a puzzle game with some level of dexterity occasionally needed.

213 Charles Johnson  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:40:47pm

Youtube Video

214 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:40:47pm

re: #209 Targetpractice

What, there’s a test? Nobody told me there’d be a test!!

/

Knowing there would be a test is part of the test.

215 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:40:49pm

re: #210 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

I haven’t had a pony tail for 10 years.

He says that if I ever cut off my hair he’ll cut off his.

Fortunately I like long hair.

216 jamesfirecat  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:40:51pm

re: #204 Targetpractice

Yeah, tower defense is that genre that really grates on me when it’s forced into a game. Especially when it’s a “must win” battle, as opposed to a side quest that I can avoid. At least Elizabeth’s the easiest escort quest I’ve ever had in a game.

It’s not an escort quest if what you are protecting cannot be killed or seperated from you unless the plots wants it to be. She’s like a like a TARDIS full of salt bottles and ammo clips.


Also now that I think about it I am seriously tempted to write up a page commenting on some fo the political thoughts I have about the game. Wild anyone be intersted in seeing that?

217 makeitstop  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:41:07pm

re: #211 klys and whatnot

Dude, French onion soup is supposed to contain bread? The things you learn…

That’s what holds up the cheese.

218 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:41:16pm

re: #212 EPR-radar

I’m partway through Portal 2, cooperative mode. So far this is mainly a puzzle game with some level of dexterity occasionally needed.

It is the “level of dexterity” part that kills me. A lot.

219 jamesfirecat  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:41:35pm

re: #207 Charles Johnson

Yup, testing.

Hey Charles how is your own play through of infinite going?

220 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:42:15pm

re: #217 makeitstop

That’s what holds up the cheese.

Having never actually eaten french onion soup, this knowledge had eluded me until this cookbook.

221 EPR-radar  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:42:39pm

re: #218 klys and whatnot

It is the “level of dexterity” part that kills me. A lot.

In cooperative mode, if the player you are cooperating with has better skills, he or she can do the hard parts…

222 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:42:53pm

re: #185 Gus

Ugh. You know what? I hate stuff like this. It’s no surprise that the lead was written this way considering it’s at Raw Story. Neuroscience is still in its infancy. Most of it right now is either in basic form or it’s populated by a bunch of untrained political science majors looking at brain scans of which they have no clue as to what they’re looking at.

[Fade out with TedTalks theme.]

Especially considering that article link to the The Times of London and look who they are thinking about brainwashing. Image: 63214565__417335c.jpg
I’m certainly no friend of radical Islamists but even I’m not entertaining the idea of limiting their free speech much less medically curing them of their “disorder”. Although it’s always interesting to see the moronic convergence of authoritarians willing unleash unspeakable shit upon their enemies (real or imagined).

223 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:43:14pm

re: #215 klys and whatnot

He says that if I ever cut off my hair he’ll cut off his.

Fortunately I like long hair.

I had long hair for a good 30 years. Then it started falling out, or migrating, take your pick.

224 Targetpractice  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:43:45pm

re: #216 jamesfirecat

It’s not an escort quest if what you are protecting cannot be killed or seperated from you unless the plots wants it to be. She’s like a like a TARDIS full of salt bottles and ammo clips.

Also now that I think about it I am seriously tempted to write up a page commenting on some fo the political thoughts I have about the game. Wild anyone be intersted in seeing that?

Hence why the frequent joke is that Elizabeth’s the one escorting Booker, not the other way around.

And the politics of Infinite are…definitely interesting, if nothing else. Bioshock certainly set the bar for tearing a philosophy down in every way possible, but this was just…wow.

225 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:43:49pm

Night Lizards Sleep well.

226 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:43:49pm

re: #215 klys and whatnot

He says that if I ever cut off my hair he’ll cut off his.

Fortunately I like long hair.

Mine was 24 inches at its longest. Used to get a lot of complements. Once or twice threats from the haters. That was before the walls fell.

227 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:44:01pm

re: #205 klys and whatnot

Don’t forget the ponytail!

/I got all my dreams in one, oh yeah.

yay, you! and mine, too!

228 jamesfirecat  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:44:27pm

re: #224 Targetpractice

Hence why the frequent joke is that Elizabeth’s the one escorting Booker, not the other way around.

And the politics of Infinite are…definitely interesting, if nothing else. Bioshock certainly set the bar for tearing a philosophy down in every way possible, but this was just…wow.

Okay I will write that page once I finish up my meal.

229 Targetpractice  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:44:33pm

re: #223 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

I had long hair for a good 30 years. Then it started falling out, or migrating, take your pick.

I say my hairline is French because it’s advancing to the rear.

230 EPR-radar  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:45:40pm

re: #216 jamesfirecat

Sounds interesting. I tend to be apolitical in my gaming (why yes indeed, it took me entirely too long to realize the opening scene in Final Fantasy 7 is perpetration of a terrorist act).

Also, the FF series (my favorite franchise) really isn’t that political.

231 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:45:50pm

bbl

232 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:46:38pm

re: #226 Gus

Mine was 24 inches at its longest. Used to get a lot of complements. Once or twice threats from the haters. That was before the walls fell.

Mine went halfway down my back, it was dark, curly and thick. Most women said they were jealous. I had to brush it 10 times a day, and I kept getting it caught in things.

As a bald old fart, I’d kind of like to have it back.

233 jamesfirecat  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:46:39pm

re: #230 EPR-radar

Sounds interesting. I tend to be apolitical in my gaming (why yes indeed, it took me entirely too long to realize the opening scene in Final Fantasy 7 is perpetration of a terrorist act).

Also, the FF series (my favorite franchise) really isn’t that political.

Final Fantasy seven the only game where Eco terrorists see coal based power plants as a good option compared to the alternatives…

234 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:47:00pm

Slightly better hair perspective.

With my dad.

It’s roughly that long now. Had 6” taken off a few months ago, because it was getting ragged. First time since the wedding.

ALSO NOT NATURALLY CURLY. That was 3 hours at the hair and makeup.

235 EPR-radar  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:48:08pm

re: #233 jamesfirecat

Final Fantasy seven the only game where Eco terrorists see coal based power plants as a good option compared to the alternatives…

Well, in that story, coal simply was the better alternative.

236 dragonath  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:48:18pm

re: #226 Gus

That was before the walls fell.

Shaka, when the walls fell?

Oh. Too much Trek on the mind.

Anyway, my hair went down to the middle of my back once. However long that was.

237 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:48:34pm

re: #234 klys and whatnot

Slightly better hair perspective.

With my dad.

It’s roughly that long now. Had 6” taken off a few months ago, because it was getting ragged. First time since the wedding.

You are an attractive woman.

238 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:48:36pm

re: #222 Killgore Trout

Especially considering that article link to the The Times of London and look who they are thinking about brainwashing. Image: 63214565__417335c.jpg
I’m certainly no friend of radical Islamists but even I’m not entertaining the idea of limiting their free speech much less medically curing them of their “disorder”. Although it’s always interesting to see the moronic convergence of authoritarians willing unleash unspeakable shit upon their enemies (real or imagined).

Yep. Radical Islamists or anyone. The idea of medicalizing political or religious beliefs is something I find repugnant. Even on a theoretical basis. I’d rather put up with their BS than ever entertain such a notion.

239 jamesfirecat  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:48:43pm

re: #235 EPR-radar

Well, in that story, coal simply was the better alternative.

I know it is just an amusing fact to note.

240 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:50:16pm

re: #222 Killgore Trout

Especially considering that article link to the The Times of London and look who they are thinking about brainwashing. Image: 63214565__417335c.jpg
I’m certainly no friend of radical Islamists but even I’m not entertaining the idea of limiting their free speech much less medically curing them of their “disorder”. Although it’s always interesting to see the moronic convergence of authoritarians willing unleash unspeakable shit upon their enemies (real or imagined).

Even the Times of London headline “Science ‘may one day cure Islamic radicals’. Is this really what progressive sites should be promoting? Rawstory’s headline removes the Islamic angle “Leading neuroscientist: Religious fundamentalism may be a ‘mental illness’ that can be ‘cured’. Is that really any better or more moral when catered to a leftist American audience who would assume that this procedure would be applied to fundamentalist Christians? I really don’t see much of a difference.

241 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:50:34pm

re: #232 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Mine went halfway down my back, it was dark, curly and thick. Most women said they were jealous. I had to brush it 10 times a day, and I kept getting it caught in things.

As a bald old fart, I’d kind of like to have it back.

I still have mine. The walls fell in other places. My hairline and hair growth have remained stable. Ponytail is back but I’m thinking of another flat-top. That and trimming this damn beard! Ugh.

242 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:50:38pm

re: #237 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

You are an attractive woman.

My hair is my vanity and I totally admit it.

My matron of honor (which is who I visited this past week) has been growing out her hair since my wedding and said it was because of how good mine looked.

I can’t take better flattery than that.

243 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:51:10pm

re: #241 Gus

From a totally biased-my-thinking way, hair cutting bad, beard trimming good.

244 Targetpractice  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:51:17pm

Eh, not every game I play these days is political. Politics sort of falls in and out of the Fallout games, as it played a part in 2 and New Vegas, but was virtually unknown in 1 and 3. Same with XCOM, politics is just not something you worry about unless you count not losing any sponsor countries to too much panic.

245 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:52:11pm

re: #241 Gus

I still have mine. The walls fell in other places. My hairline and hair growth have remained stable. Ponytail is back but I’m thinking of another flat-top. That and trimming this damn beard! Ugh.

I like having a beard, but I hate trimming it so I look a bit scraggly. Still shave my head though.

246 EPR-radar  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:52:13pm

re: #239 jamesfirecat

Maybe it is time for another FF7 replay…

247 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:54:01pm

re: #246 EPR-radar

Maybe it is time for another FF7 replay…

I have it on the PSP. It’s possible it may be gone through now that I have free time…

(It was acquired senior year of high school along with the PS1, so I never have really had time…)

248 EPR-radar  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:55:04pm

re: #247 klys and whatnot

I have it on the PSP. It’s possible it may be gone through now that I have free time…

(It was acquired senior year of high school along with the PS1, so I never have really had time…)

Recommended. Not perfect, but very interesting.

249 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:55:09pm

Youtube Video

250 jamesfirecat  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:57:14pm

re: #246 EPR-radar

Maybe it is time for another FF7 replay…

Seven is the best in the series.

Which is why I spent/wasted much of my high school years writing various bits and pieces of FF7 fanfiction till I finally came up with one that was good enough/I was brazen enough to actually state posting.

251 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:58:17pm

re: #240 Killgore Trout

Even the Times of London headline “Science ‘may one day cure Islamic radicals’. Is this really what progressive sites should be promoting? Rawstory’s headline removes the Islamic angle “Leading neuroscientist: Religious fundamentalism may be a ‘mental illness’ that can be ‘cured’. Is that really any better or more moral when catered to a leftist American audience who would assume that this procedure would be applied to fundamentalist Christians? I really don’t see much of a difference.

You know who else wanted to medicalize religious and political beliefs?

252 Varek Raith  Thu, May 30, 2013 7:59:23pm

Aeris’s Theme = Depressing.
Youtube Video

253 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:00:14pm

re: #251 Gus

You know who else wanted to medicalize religious and political beliefs?

Me! But I only do it to myself….so I got that going for me…which is nice

254 Varek Raith  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:00:29pm

Stupid yahoo.

255 EPR-radar  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:00:29pm

re: #250 jamesfirecat

Seven is the best in the series.

Which is why I spent/wasted much of my high school years writing various bits and pieces of FF7 fanfiction till I finally came up with one that was good enough/I was brazen enough to actually state posting.

I’ve played most of the games in this series, and IMO FF7 had the strongest story. FFXII and FFXIII both had very interesting game play, in different ways.

256 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:01:19pm

re: #252 Varek Raith

Aeris’s Theme = Depressing.

[Embedded content]

Oh Terra’s theme from FFVI (or III depending on your numbering system)…

I used to think an oven at 400C was hot until I worked with a furnace at 1700C.

257 Varek Raith  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:01:20pm

FF6 is the best, btw.
;)

258 Kragar  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:01:39pm

re: #255 EPR-radar

I’ve played most of the games in this series, and IMO FF7 had the strongest story. FFXII and FFXIII both had very interesting game play, in different ways.

I liked FFX.

259 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:02:10pm

re: #255 EPR-radar

I’ve played most of the games in this series, and IMO FF7 had the strongest story. FFXII and FFXIII both had very interesting game play, in different ways.

I confess I kind of adore X-2 and am anxiously awaiting it and KH on PS3. But I recognize that as completely personal preference.

(Dress-spheres!)

260 jamesfirecat  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:02:29pm

re: #255 EPR-radar

I’ve played most of the games in this series, and IMO FF7 had the strongest story. FFXII and FFXIII both had very interesting game play, in different ways.

Seven’s story is so strong I think because Sephiroth (wow how does LGF not recognize his name in their built in spell checker) is such a memorable villain who stands our for being such a badass (impaled Midgar Zolem) and also for the fact that honestly he has the kind of backstory that most Final Fantasy heroes could also end up having.

261 Varek Raith  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:02:33pm

re: #258 Kragar

I liked FFX.

I hate whiny main characters. Auron was the only reason I played through.

262 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:03:18pm

re: #261 Varek Raith

I hate whiny main characters. Auron was the only reason I played through.

I feel this is a fair complaint. >.>

(Dress-spheres!)

263 Kragar  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:03:51pm

re: #261 Varek Raith

I hate whiny main characters. Auron was the only reason I played through.

I liked Kimahri.

264 EPR-radar  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:03:59pm

re: #256 klys and whatnot

Oh Terra’s theme from FFVI (or III depending on your numbering system)…

I used to think an oven at 400C was hot until I worked with a furnace at 1700C.

Strange, Terra seems reasonably cheerful to me. OTOH, Aeris’ theme in FF7 is a funeral dirge.

265 Kragar  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:04:15pm

re: #262 klys and whatnot

I feel this is a fair complaint. >.>

(Dress-spheres!)

I said X, not that craptastic sequel.

266 Varek Raith  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:04:19pm

Badass
Image: Ff10-auron.jpg

Whiny ass
Image: File:Tidus.png

267 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:04:42pm

re: #264 EPR-radar

Strange, Terra seems reasonably cheerful to me. OTOH, Aeris’ theme in FF7 is a funeral dirge.

It’s possible that in my high-school-angst daze, Terra’s theme as rendered on piano was more depressing than it deserved.

268 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:05:09pm

re: #265 Kragar

I said X, not that craptastic sequel.

You may send me the sequel and I will happily take it from you.

269 Varek Raith  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:05:30pm

Rikku was funny too.

270 EPR-radar  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:05:44pm

re: #258 Kragar

I liked FFX.

Turn based game play has its moments. The temple puzzles were good. The ability to ridiculously over-power the characters also kept me entertained (e.g., full sphere grid obsession).

271 jamesfirecat  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:07:10pm

re: #269 Varek Raith

Rikku was funny too.

Key-Mon!

272 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:07:22pm

re: #270 EPR-radar

Turn based game play has its moments. The temple puzzles were good. The ability to ridiculously over-power the characters also kept me entertained (e.g., full sphere grid obsession).

I have somewhat despaired of good RPGs lately. Although part of that may be due to limited playtime.

I backed the spiritual successor to Planescape: Torment on Kickstarter (last month?) to see how that comes out.

I say this like I don’t have a giant fucking backlog to play, but I still want to see the genre succeed and I like JRPGs.

273 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:07:52pm

So much for El Salvador being the socialist nirvana.

274 Varek Raith  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:08:11pm

Zidane from 9 and Tidus from 10 were the most annoying main characters imo. The rest, I had little problems with.

275 EPR-radar  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:08:47pm

re: #272 klys and whatnot

JRPGs do seem to be dwindling. IIRC, the dragon quest franchise has folded.

276 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:09:00pm

re: #273 Gus

So much for El Salvador being the socialist nirvana.

I thought that was Scandinavia.

277 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:10:26pm

re: #275 EPR-radar

JRPGs do seem to be dwindling. IIRC, the dragon quest franchise has folded.

I am vaguely hoping this is ‘folded’ in the same sense that adventure games have ‘folded’, where there is a devoted legion of fans ready to sink money into financing the next project. It is probably in vain, but…

I don’t have the twitch reflexes for a FPS. I’ve known that for ages.

278 Varek Raith  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:10:59pm

4x FTW!

279 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:11:48pm

re: #276 klys and whatnot

I thought that was Scandinavia.

Wait! Incoming.

280 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:13:00pm

re: #279 Gus

Wait! Incoming.

A = B = bad.

A = C = B = ok.

I haven’t had enough gin for this.

*Edited to change letter order for better logical extrapolation.

281 EPR-radar  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:15:20pm

re: #260 jamesfirecat

Seven’s story is so strong I think because Sephiroth (wow how does LGF not recognize his name in their built in spell checker) is such a memorable villain who stands our for being such a badass (impaled Midgar Zolem) and also for the fact that honestly he has the kind of backstory that most Final Fantasy heroes could also end up having.

It is a bit of a shame from a game play point of view that one can pretty much squish Sephiroth like a bug in the final boss fight with modest grinding and getting the final summons.

282 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:16:07pm

re: #280 klys and whatnot

A = B = bad.

A = B = C = ok.

I haven’t had enough gin for this.

Started here: El Salvador court denies seriously ill woman abortion

283 EPR-radar  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:16:48pm

re: #277 klys and whatnot

I am vaguely hoping this is ‘folded’ in the same sense that adventure games have ‘folded’, where there is a devoted legion of fans ready to sink money into financing the next project. It is probably in vain, but…

I don’t have the twitch reflexes for a FPS. I’ve known that for ages.

I’m still disappointed that the Xenosaga series ended after game three of an originally planned 6 game series.

284 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:19:10pm

re: #282 Gus

Started here: El Salvador court denies seriously ill woman abortion

Having read this article, how the hell do 5 judges in favor of it versus 4 against result in the petition being denied?

(I had seen throughout LGF posts today but hadn’t actually read things because I like not hating the world.)

285 EPR-radar  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:20:39pm

re: #284 klys and whatnot

5 judge panel. 4 against allowing an abortion.

286 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:21:57pm

re: #285 EPR-radar

5 judge panel. 4 against allowing an abortion.

Right, only one voted in favor.

287 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:24:26pm

No thanks.

288 Kragar  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:24:30pm

Republican congressman warns of ‘global totalitarians massed in New York City’

The FRC has offices in New York? I kid the zealots.

Representative Steve Stockman (R-TX) on Thursday portrayed the United Nations as a tyrannical international body intent on grabbing Americans guns.

“The right to keep and bear arms is granted by God and protecting from government aggression by the Constitution,” he said in a statement. “It is not subject to the whims of global totalitarians massed in New York City. I oppose any UN treaty touching the right to keep and bear arms. It’s beyond time for the United States to withdraw from the UN.”

The statement was released to announce Stockman’s signature of a letter (PDF) opposing the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty, an international effort to crack down on the black market trade of military weapons.

289 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:25:29pm

re: #285 EPR-radar

5 judge panel. 4 against allowing an abortion.

re: #286 Gus

Right, only one voted in favor.

Ah, I had missed that. (Obviously.) Thank you for the correction.

I still hate people.

290 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:28:48pm

re: #239 jamesfirecat

And then they went to the new-fangled stuff called Petroleum.

291 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:30:08pm

re: #264 EPR-radar

Gee, I can’t imagine why…… :P

292 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:30:59pm

re: #270 EPR-radar

For me, my favorite was VIII.

Don’t judge me.

293 Charles Johnson  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:31:27pm

A public service reminder: do not feed the godless killing machines.

Comedy Central

294 EPR-radar  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:33:07pm

re: #292 ProTARDISLiberal

For me, my favorite was VIII.

Don’t judge me.

Have you tried the trick in VIII of minimizing the leveling up of the party? This can lead to interesting results, since it prevents the corresponding leveling up of random encounters and most bosses.

295 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:35:46pm

Come to Texas where we have a minimum wage job waiting for you.

“Welcome to McDonald’s Dallas East. How may I take your order?”

296 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:36:05pm

re: #294 EPR-radar

No, I just Junction my Characters to extreme power, then adjust the way I use the Limit Breaks to create 6 Nuclear Characters:

Squall-Lionheart
Rinoa-Angel Wing (Meteor)
Zell-Infinite Loop of minor Moves
Quistis-Shockwave Pulsar
Selphie-The End/Rapture
Irvine-AP/Pulse Ammo

And TA-DA! Instant Death!

297 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:37:46pm
298 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:38:21pm

BTW. Juan Williams is in fact, an idiot.

299 EPR-radar  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:40:26pm

re: #296 ProTARDISLiberal

I’m not very good at abusing the limit breaks. However, stat maxing has insane effects in FFVIII. Defense can be nearly perfect, and speed makes a big difference.

300 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:41:10pm

re: #296 ProTARDISLiberal

Should note that I love the Final Boss Theme, the Extreme.

Original:

Youtube Video

The Black Mages Version:

To be found later.

301 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:41:14pm
302 Dark_Falcon  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:41:18pm

re: #5 lawhawk

Glenn Beck has crossed over once and for all into Eric Cartman. They are one and the same.

I’m afraid not. Cartman has Stan, Kyle, and Kenny there to check some (not most but some) of his worst impulses. Cartman also doesn’t have a legion of followers.

On the plus side of the ledger, Glenn Beck would not attack a woman over breast cancer the way Cartman abused Wendy. But that’s about all you can say in Beck’s favor.

303 Kragar  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:42:22pm

Erickson Fires Back At ‘Emo Lefties’

In a blog post on RedState.com, Editor-in-Chief Erick Erickson replied to criticism of his Fox Business appearance Wednesday evening, in which he railed against the uptick of “breadwinning” mothers he says is “tearing us apart.”

“Many feminist and emo lefties have their panties in a wad over my statements in the past 24 hours about families,” Erickson wrote on Thursday.

304 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:42:51pm

re: #299 EPR-radar

Oh, I can abuse Limit Breaks like none other. Speed helps, and Defense can make it simply impossible to break down your team, especially if you team it with Protect, Shell, and Regen.

305 EPR-radar  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:43:44pm

re: #300 ProTARDISLiberal

Fine bit of music. For me, it doesn’t sound complete without the sound effect of tripled meteors pounding Ultimecia.

306 jamesfirecat  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:44:48pm

Its done.

Behold my over thinking of Bioshock Infinite’s Political nature.


littlegreenfootballs.com

Take a look and don’t be afraid to tell me what you think over there.

307 EPR-radar  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:44:57pm

re: #304 ProTARDISLiberal

Oh, I can abuse Limit Breaks like none other. Speed helps, and Defense can make it simply impossible to break down your team, especially if you team it with Protect, Shell, and Regen.

With the exception of Omega’s Weapon’s full party wipe attack.

308 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:45:55pm

re: #305 EPR-radar

See, I was much more a dick about it when playing the game.

I would have Rinoa, and her maxed Magic Stat draw out Apocalypse.

Then, I would use Triple Apocalypse.

309 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:47:00pm

9. Texans are normal people

310 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:47:10pm

Really?

311 jaunte  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:47:35pm

re: #310 Gus

No!

312 EPR-radar  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:47:38pm

re: #308 ProTARDISLiberal

See, I was much more a dick about it when playing the game.

I would have Rinoa, and her maxed Magic Stat draw out Apocalypse.

Then, I would use Triple Apocalypse.

But you can’t draw apocalypse until partway through the battle. Also, meteor causes more damage (multiple hits evades the 9999 damage limit).

313 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:49:27pm
314 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:49:40pm

Glenn Greenwald. Douche.

315 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:50:04pm

re: #312 EPR-radar

True, but smashing Ultimecia with her own attack is so damn satisfying.

Also, with the way FF8 plays out, you end up with a stable time loop that the Doctor would be proud of.

316 EPR-radar  Thu, May 30, 2013 8:52:44pm

re: #315 ProTARDISLiberal

True, but smashing Ultimecia with her own attack is so damn satisfying.

Also, with the way FF8 plays out, you end up with a stable time loop that the Doctor would be proud of.

There is some really good FF8 fan fiction out there that gets into the time travel possibilities. One of the better ones I’ve read had Rinoa eventually becoming Ultimecia and made it work as a story.

317 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, May 30, 2013 9:00:09pm

re: #316 EPR-radar

That theory was shot down by the makers of FF8 themselves.

However, the game has enough between the lines that we can surmise what happens.

After Ultimecia is defeated and the war ends, the history starts being written. We can guess that history will mention the future Sorceress who will cause so much misery. However, Rinoa is kept safe-ish. Squall, who seems to be about as loyal and protective to Rinoa as Rory is to Amy in Doctor Who, and keeps her from going insane.

Unfortunately, some generations later, as public pressure increases, the Sorceress that inherited Rinoa’s power snaps. She decides that if they think she will be Ultimecia, she will become Ultimecia. She then goes back and tries to stop fate, and the loop starts.

That is a really short summary of this.

318 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 9:01:32pm

Fucking Youtube.

319 jamesfirecat  Thu, May 30, 2013 9:03:58pm

Holy crap I just got my first featured page!

320 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 9:04:24pm

Merle Haggard — The Fightin’ Side Of Me

Youtube Video

Spell irony.

321 EPR-radar  Thu, May 30, 2013 9:04:57pm

re: #317 ProTARDISLiberal

Thanks for the link. The wonders of the internet hive mind never cease to amaze…

322 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, May 30, 2013 9:07:26pm

re: #321 EPR-radar

I now realize the reason I was such a big fan of Final Fantasy VIII is how I became a big fan of Doctor Who.

Hell, isn’t Ultimecia’s plan in FF8 roughly the plan Rassilon had at the End of Time, the 10th Doctor’s Finale?

323 Dark_Falcon  Thu, May 30, 2013 9:07:30pm

re: #320 Gus

Merle Haggard — The Fightin’ Side Of Me

[Embedded content]

Spell irony.

It is possible to be left of center and not engage in cultural self-loathing. Merle Haggard was able to do that, and he wrote that song to make clear that he held the “Blame America First” crowd in very low regard.

324 EPR-radar  Thu, May 30, 2013 9:10:11pm

re: #322 ProTARDISLiberal

I now realize the reason I was such a big fan of Final Fantasy VIII is how I became a big fan of Doctor Who.

Hell, isn’t Ultimecia’s plan in FF8 roughly the plan Rassilon had at the End of Time, the 10th Doctor’s Finale?

I’m totally clueless about Dr. Who, so I can’t say one way or another.

From the summary you gave, you can easily get to Rinoa = Ultimecia if Rinoa outlives Squall and goes insane. One of the privileges of fan fiction writers is that they can depart from canon if they can make the resulting story work.

325 Gus  Thu, May 30, 2013 9:12:02pm

re: #323 Dark_Falcon

It is possible to be left of center and not engage in cultural self-loathing. Merle Haggard was able to do that, and he wrote that song to make clear that he held the “Blame America First” crowd in very low regard.

I’m just another hillbilly.

326 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, May 30, 2013 9:15:20pm

re: #324 EPR-radar

I go with the theory that Squall and Rinoa dies, she passes on power to somebody, who passes it on to another somebody, and does this until we get to the Sorceress that snaps.

Rassilon’s Plan:

Spoiler

Now completely amoral and determined to avoid death at any cost, he intended to spare Gallifrey from destruction on the last day of the war by using the Ultimate Sanction to turn the Time Lords into beings of pure consciousness at the cost of the rest of creation.

Ultimecia’s Plan

Spoiler

"Ultimecia, transformed to absorb all time and space. Absorbing
all existence as we speak."

Absorbing all of time and space, as well as receiving all of the sorceress
powers throughout time, would essentially make Ultimecia God.

327 EPR-radar  Thu, May 30, 2013 9:17:10pm

re: #304 ProTARDISLiberal

Oh, I can abuse Limit Breaks like none other. Speed helps, and Defense can make it simply impossible to break down your team, especially if you team it with Protect, Shell, and Regen.

My favorite FF8 game play abuses are:

1) getting the Tonberry GF without getting Odin

2) getting GF Eden from Tiamat in the castle, rather than from Ultima weapon in the deep sea deposit (this way the deep sea deposit can be used as an infinite source of otherwise rare monsters (e.g. behemoths)).

3) Omega weapon as an Ultima draw point (escape from this boss is possible).

4) The card game.

328 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, May 30, 2013 9:19:06pm

re: #327 EPR-radar

I’ve only done #4.

329 darthstar  Thu, May 30, 2013 9:19:52pm

Flowchart for these wingnut times.

Image: 984065_10201214361186781_444899767_n.jpg

330 BigPapa  Thu, May 30, 2013 9:20:14pm

re: #303 Kragar

Always a childish response: when called on being a douche act like everyone else is being the asshole and beating you down.

331 EPR-radar  Thu, May 30, 2013 9:20:14pm

re: #328 ProTARDISLiberal

I’ve only done #4.

Infinite rare card conversion on disk 4?

332 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, May 30, 2013 9:21:22pm

re: #331 EPR-radar

No, just playing cards until I have enough of them to start converting into parts and stuff to break the game.

333 EPR-radar  Thu, May 30, 2013 9:24:06pm

re: #332 ProTARDISLiberal

No, just playing cards until I have enough of them to start converting into parts and stuff to break the game.

The card game in VIII unbalances the game pretty badly, even before disk 4.

That’s probably why the card game in IX was made to have zero effect on game play.

334 PeterWolf  Thu, May 30, 2013 9:26:55pm

The right wing is indeed getting crazier. It’s a big circle jerk. The politicos peddle conspiracy theories floated up from the crazy cesspools which are often to some degree, sanitized and refined by Fox into something a little less crazy sounding. And that the politicos and journalists give such horseshit the time of day, just emboldens the crazies to come up with, even crazier shit.

Until the Republican party actually puts a stop to their deranged members and elected officials attempts to lynch Obama, the crazy will only get crazier.

335 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 9:40:36pm

re: #324 EPR-radar

I’m totally clueless about Dr. Who, so I can’t say one way or another.

From the summary you gave, you can easily get to Rinoa = Ultimecia if Rinoa outlives Squall and goes insane. One of the privileges of fan fiction writers is that they can depart from canon if they can make the resulting story work.

And then you get the FF writers who write so well that you just branch your own personal canon off that direction and are like whatever.

Not that I have done that in the FF universe, but at least two come to mind, in one case where I have ignored the author’s continuation…

336 dragonath  Thu, May 30, 2013 9:41:28pm

Did someone say Final Fantasy?

Youtube Video

337 klys and whatnot  Thu, May 30, 2013 9:42:33pm

Also, very little of the FF music sucks. At a minimum, as background working music.

338 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Fri, May 31, 2013 7:53:20am

re: #58 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s just like always needing a stronger hit to get the high.

Addicted to amygdala stimulation, they are.

339 Acemarilllion  Fri, May 31, 2013 9:19:36am

Is it just me, or should Beck have completed his ensemble by wearing a pith helmet?

340 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Fri, May 31, 2013 9:35:20am

re: #339 Acemarilllion

Is it just me, or should Beck have completed his ensemble by wearing a pith helmet?

You are so right and I just realized Beck seems like a villain from The Avengers. The old one, not the new stupid movie or series or whatever.


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