It’s rare to see a better encapsulation of the right wing’s problem with modern life than the latest cover of the National Review, as Rich Lowry apparently feels it necessary to defend the legacy of President Abraham Lincoln against the deranged kooks who have taken over his own movement.
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EPR-radar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:11:21pm |
National Review vs. the neo-confederates? Pass the popcorn.
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Kragar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:13:12pm |
How dare the National Review defend the man behind the War of Northern Aggression?
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Skip Intro Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:15:42pm |
How dare the National Review defend the man behind the War of Northern Aggression?
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Because the author has a new book to sell. Looks like NR is using the WND book marketing strategy.
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Kragar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:16:52pm |
If you’re proud of the Confederacy, you hate America.
That will piss off a lot of “patriots”.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:17:26pm |
Wingnuts are ruled by cognitive dissonance.
TEH ORIGINAL REPUBLICANZ ABOLISHED SLAVERY!!11!! DEMOCRATZ IS TEH RACIST!!!1111
LINCOLN WAS A TYRANT DICTATOR WHO SHREDDED TEH CONSTITUTION!!11 SECEDE!!!!!111
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EPR-radar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:18:17pm |
This quote by Lincoln is a big problem for today’s GOP:
Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:19:33pm |
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SpaceJesus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:20:57pm |
Is there a former president whom conservatives actually like? Other than Reagan of course, even though Reagan couldn’t win the nomination these days.
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Gus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:21:17pm |
Seriously. They’re constantly harping on about how the old Confederacy was made up of Democrats yet they really liked what they were all about and while hating on Lincoln they’re also busy defending the Confederate flag. WTF is wrong with these people?
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ProTARDISLiberal Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:22:37pm |
re: #10 Gus
Lack of self-awareness. Same thing as my own dad.
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EPR-radar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:23:16pm |
re: #9 SpaceJesus
Is there a former president whom conservatives actually like? Other than Reagan of course, even though Reagan couldn’t win the nomination these days.
There was a creepy love-fest for Coolidge among the wingnuts a while back. Perhaps Coolidge is especially quotable on the subject of the government doing nothing for normal people.
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SpaceJesus Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:23:19pm |
re: #10 Gus
New rule:
Anybody who doesn’t know that prior to the 60s Democrats were the party of conservative southerners and rural types and that Republicans were the party of liberal urban northerners shouldn’t be allowed to speak about American politics.
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Iwouldprefernotto Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:23:56pm |
I’m having an “argument” with someone on the Huffington Post. One of is attacking Joe McCarthy and one of is is defending him. Can you guess which?
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:25:51pm |
Oh, and this couldn’t be more OT but check out this. This is Icelandic Christmas.
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EPR-radar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:26:34pm |
re: #14 SpaceJesus
New rule:
Anybody who doesn’t know that prior to the 60s Democrats were the party of conservative southerners and rural types and that Republicans were the party of liberal urban northerners shouldn’t be allowed to speak about American politics.
We can add the following corollary:
Anyone who doesn’t know (or feigns ignorance) that the GOP southern strategy has been the primary driver of changing party alignments for the last 40 years should shut up and let normal people deal with things.
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ProTARDISLiberal Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:27:39pm |
re: #16 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
While I love them to bit, Scandinavia seems to several fries short of a Happy Meal.
Wouldn’t have them any other way. :)
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:27:41pm |
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Iwouldprefernotto Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:29:40pm |
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jaunte Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:29:50pm |
re: #13 EPR-radar
There was a creepy love-fest for Coolidge among the wingnuts a while back. Perhaps Coolidge is especially quotable on the subject of the government doing nothing for normal people.
This is absolutely the favorite right wing Coolidge quote:
“Collecting more taxes than is absolutely necessary is legalized robbery.”
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EPR-radar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:30:58pm |
re: #21 jaunte
This is absolutely the favorite right wing Coolidge quote:
“Collecting more taxes than is absolutely necessary is legalized robbery.”
Bingo. That explains everything. Commandments 1-10 of the Sacred Writ of Grover Norquist in one convenient package.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:31:35pm |
re: #16 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
Oh, and this couldn’t be more OT but check out this. This is Icelandic Christmas.
I was in Amsterdam last December and it really freaked me right out to see this blackface jester prancing around in the airport. Apparently this is some kind of Dutch Santa’s n-word elf.
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jaunte Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:32:03pm |
Of course, there isn’t much of a competition for great Coolidge quotes.
“When a great many people are unable to find work, unemployment results.”
— Calvin Coolidge
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:32:17pm |
re: #20 Iwouldprefernotto
Was this from the Spielberg film?
I think from that other movie, Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Killer.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:32:45pm |
re: #23 Vicious Babushka
Yeah. That one blows. Iceland just has a monster cat that will eat you if you don’t have new clothes. And an evil elf that comes and slams doors all night long, and another one that steals your meat, and another that steals your cream, and then one that eats your babies.
So kind of a disparity of danger.
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ProTARDISLiberal Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:34:41pm |
re: #19 Vicious Babushka
There are a few of those that are magical.
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Stanghazi Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:34:53pm |
re: #16 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
Oh, and this couldn’t be more OT but check out this. This is Icelandic Christmas.
Correctly scary.
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EPR-radar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:34:56pm |
re: #26 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
Interesting. As I recall, Santa in Europe is often more double edged than the US/Hallmark version —- e.g., naughty children get beatings from Santa rather than just coal in the stockings.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:35:43pm |
re: #26 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
Yeah. That one blows. Iceland just has a monster cat that will eat you if you don’t have new clothes. And an evil elf that comes and slams doors all night long, and another one that steals your meat, and another that steals your cream, and then one that eats your babies.
So kind of a disparity of danger.
Because people didn’t always survive the Nordic winter, I guess. This is the culture that gave us the Frost Giants. Oh wait that was Marvel Comics.
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jaunte Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:35:50pm |
Rich Lowry:
A portion of the Right has always hated Old Abe. It blames him for wielding dictatorial powers in an unnecessary war against the Confederacy and creating the predicate for the modern welfare state, among sundry other offenses against the constitutional order and liberty.
In short, Losers.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:35:53pm |
re: #29 EPR-radar
There’s no Santa in Icelandic tradition. The closest thing to him is a guy who will burn down your farm if you don’t give him porridge, and the guy who steals meat does it with a big hook through the chimney.
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jaunte Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:39:10pm |
re: #23 Vicious Babushka
I was in Amsterdam last December and it really freaked me right out to see this blackface jester prancing around in the airport. Apparently this is some kind of Dutch Santa’s n-word elf.
Zwarte Piet:
racialicious.com
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EPR-radar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:39:18pm |
re: #30 Vicious Babushka
Because people didn’t always survive the Nordic winter, I guess. This is the culture that gave us the Frost Giants. Oh wait that was Marvel Comics.
Usually what Marvel has done with Norse mythology stinks on ice. There are exceptions (e.g., the Walt Simonson run on Thor).
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:44:59pm |
re: #33 jaunte
Zwarte Piet:
racialicious.com
I saw a Swarte Piet at Schiphol Airport doing some kind of promotion for the duty free shops. It’s one thing I suppose if he is out in some Dutch village somewhere that tourists don’t normally go, but in the freaking AIRPORT which is full of international travelers including oh I don’t know, a bunch of Africans, Caribbeans and Black Americans? Not cool.
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ProTARDISLiberal Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:48:28pm |
re: #34 EPR-radar
Makes me laugh and fair bit sad at the same time.
Series 7a was wasted, in my opinion.
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danarchy Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:48:47pm |
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:49:35pm |
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Romantic Heretic Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:51:43pm |
re: #32 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
There’s no Santa in Icelandic tradition. The closest thing to him is a guy who will burn down your farm if you don’t give him porridge, and the guy who steals meat does it with a big hook through the chimney.
Clive Barker is from Iceland?
You learn something new every day! //
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wheat-dogghazi Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:52:41pm |
It’s like defending Mon and Apple Pie.
Mom: Not such a bad woman after all
Apple Pie:Surprisingly tasty after all these years
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EPR-radar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:54:36pm |
re: #41 wheat-dogghazi
It’s like defending Mon and Apple Pie.
Mom: Not such a bad woman after all
Apple Pie:Surprisingly tasty after all these years
There you go again, applying common sense and normal logic to wingnut politics.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jun 3, 2013 6:57:39pm |
Swarte Piet reminded me that Samuel L. Jackson did his role in Django Unchained in blackface. He ate more scenery than Leonardo Di Caprio and had more fun than anybody else in the entire movie.
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Lidane Mon, Jun 3, 2013 7:03:22pm |
The fact that Lincoln has to be defended at all 148 years after the Civil War ended is a sad statement about just how far movement conservatism has fallen.
So much for the Party of Lincoln.
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EPR-radar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 7:06:33pm |
re: #44 Lidane
The fact that Lincoln has to be defended at all 148 years after the Civil War ended is a sad statement about just how far movement conservatism has fallen.
So much for the Party of Lincoln.
This was inevitable, given the embrace of the Southern strategy by the GOP. Referring to racists in the present-day GOP base as ‘unreconstructed’ is a technical term with a precise meaning.
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funky chicken Mon, Jun 3, 2013 7:08:37pm |
re: #7 EPR-radar
I hadn’t seen this quote before. Excellent! I wonder what Lincoln would have thought about H1-B visas being used to replace higher-paid American workers? Theodore Roosevelt wouldn’t have been amused.
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ProTARDISLiberal Mon, Jun 3, 2013 7:12:10pm |
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RealityBasedSteve Mon, Jun 3, 2013 7:14:10pm |
re: #5 Kragar
If you’re proud of the Confederacy, you hate America.
That will piss off a lot of “patriots”.
Oh, I’d SO love to do that up as a bumper sticker, but I have a feeling that I’d end up paying the price with a keying job within a week. :(
RBS
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jamesfirecat Mon, Jun 3, 2013 7:16:13pm |
It’s getting to the point where only the Vox respect Lincoln….
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 3, 2013 7:16:17pm |
re: #3 Skip Intro
Because the author has a new book to sell. Looks like NR is using the WND book marketing strategy.
Dial that back a bit. A reasonable book about Abraham Lincoln is not the same as a WND screed. Countering the Lincoln haters is a worthy topic for an article or book and its good for the moral health of NR and the GOP.
#Don‘t be hatin’
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Mon, Jun 3, 2013 7:17:24pm |
re: #50 Dark_Falcon
The book probably sucks.
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Mattand Mon, Jun 3, 2013 7:19:03pm |
re: #49 jamesfirecat
It’s getting to the point where only the Vox respect Lincoln….
Nice Bioshock Infinite ref there.
FOR FITZROY!!!!
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EPR-radar Mon, Jun 3, 2013 7:27:01pm |
re: #50 Dark_Falcon
Dial that back a bit. A reasonable book about Abraham Lincoln is not the same as a WND screed. Countering the Lincoln haters is a worthy topic for an article or book and its good for the moral health of NR and the GOP.
#Don‘t be hatin’
Cleaning up the NR and the GOP would surely count as one of the labors of Hercules (Augean stables v2.0).
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Mattand Mon, Jun 3, 2013 7:31:50pm |
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funky chicken Mon, Jun 3, 2013 7:47:51pm |
re: #48 RealityBasedSteve
Oh, I’d SO love to do that up as a bumper sticker, but I have a feeling that I’d end up paying the price with a keying job within a week. :(
RBS
I currently reside in Oklahoma. I have a feeling I would suffer more damage than a keying.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 3, 2013 7:58:13pm |
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Timothy Watson Mon, Jun 3, 2013 8:11:54pm |
re: #19 Vicious Babushka
LINCOLN WAS A WARG?!
(Pardon the A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones reference)
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sauceruney Mon, Jun 3, 2013 8:17:28pm |
re: #5 Kragar
If you’re proud of the Confederacy, you hate America.
That will piss off a lot of “patriots”.
That should be used in debates… “are you proud of the confederacy?”
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wheat-dogghazi Mon, Jun 3, 2013 8:30:17pm |
re: #42 EPR-radar
There you go again, applying common sense and normal logic to wingnut politics.
It is my great failure as an intellectual. I can’t think like a wingnut.
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Lidane Mon, Jun 3, 2013 8:57:24pm |
re: #48 RealityBasedSteve
Oh, I’d SO love to do that up as a bumper sticker, but I have a feeling that I’d end up paying the price with a keying job within a week. :(
Here in Texas that would probably get all your tires slashed and your windows broken, at a minimum.
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Cap'n Magic Mon, Jun 3, 2013 9:54:56pm |
re: #23 Vicious Babushka
Ah, you mean the Zwart Piete tradition?
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Areopagitica Thu, Jun 6, 2013 9:33:33pm |
Its funny. When my wife and I visited the National Museum of American History in DC last summer, one exhibit contained examples of newspaper editorial and cartoon attacks on Lincoln by crazy secessionists and slaveholders. It was really creepy that some of the insults hurled at Lincoln, such as the “imperialist” and “tyrant” are some of the same buzzwords used by the tea-party morons today.
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