Glenn Beck: Cannibalism in Syria Means “We Are at the End”

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Speaking of fear-mongering, the ultimate fear fix for paranoia junkies is the BIBLICAL END OF THE UNIVERSE. (Something made me type that in caps. Sorry.)

Glenn “Raving Freakazoid” Beck has been peddling End Times hooey to his gullible listeners for years, and yesterday he hauled out the snake oil again.

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1 dragonath  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 12:12:04pm

Does Beck wear that hat to keep his brains from falling out?

2 Targetpractice  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 12:14:33pm

Cannibals in Syria? Are we sure that the zombie apocalypse hasn’t begun?

3 Lidane  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 12:17:01pm

re: #1 dragonath

Does Beck wear that hat to keep his brains from falling out?

This assumes he has a brain. The jury’s still out on that.

4 makeitstop  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 12:18:45pm

I’m still mystified as to how he can do all this yakking with paralyzed vocal cords.

Didn’t anyone call his lying ass out on that?

5 teleskiguy  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 12:20:57pm

I feel sorry for people who listen to this garbage. And the fact that Beck has made millions from hapless rubes makes his presence all the more tragic. Though Beck’s grift is lucrative, it’s a vicious grift nonetheless.

Christopher Hitchens was right, ‘end times’ thinking like this stifles all rational thought and saps all hope. Why love one another and make life in the here and now better when it’s all going to end? I saw this video yesterday and shuddered at the thought that a lot of people listening to Beck on the radio were nodding their heads and saying to themselves “Yeah, the end is nigh!” Meanwhile, Beck gets richer, and from the looks of it is becoming a true all-American fatso off the largess of his unthinking followers.

6 Dr. Matt  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 12:22:02pm

When is he going to reveal his ground breaking news that is going to shake the foundation of this country?

7 bratwurst  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 12:22:29pm

As a resident of Chicagoland, the fact he is wearing a Blackhawks cap is nearly as disturbing as his blather.

8 dragonath  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 12:23:58pm

GO TEAM CANNIBAL IF YOU CAN’T RAISE JESUS NOBODY CAN

9 Gus  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 12:30:21pm

The whole presentation is so goofy too. He looks like he’s about to burst out laughing OR crying at any moment. Also, noticed he looked bloated all of the sudden.

10 AlexRogan  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 12:34:57pm

re: #1 dragonath

Does Beck wear that hat to keep his brains from falling out?

He should have wrapped his head in duct tape, since that was the schtick he gave callers on his radio show for the longest time.

11 dragonath  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 12:35:31pm

So biblical scholar Beck is saying a bunch of heathens who are probably going to hell anyway need to suffer first. /

Jesus needs to hire some better interpreters.

12 wrenchwench  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 12:40:44pm

He saw a video in which a soldier took a beating heart out of a dead body. That’s a pretty good trick.

13 wrenchwench  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 12:41:59pm

re: #9 Gus

The whole presentation is so goofy too. He looks like he’s about to burst out laughing OR crying at any moment. Also, noticed he looked bloated all of the sudden.

It’s just that his vocal cords are swollen.

14 Gus  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 12:46:21pm

I ate the heart of a Syrian - Abu Sakkar speaks

Youtube Video

15 dragonath  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 12:46:42pm

Now this is cool:

Ancient Roman Concrete Is About to Revolutionize Modern Architecture

After 2,000 years, a long-lost secret behind the creation of one of the world’s most durable man-made creations ever—Roman concrete—has finally been discovered by an international team of scientists, and it may have a significant impact on how we build cities of the future.

The researchers now know why ancient Roman concrete is so superior. They extracted from the floor of Italy’s Pozzuoili Bay, in the northern tip of the Bay of Naples, a sample of concrete headwater that dates back to 37 B.C. and analyzed its mineral components at research labs in Europe and the U.S., including at Berkeley Lab’s Advanced Light Source. The analysis, the scientists believe, reveals the lost recipe of Roman concrete, and it also points to how much more stable and less environmentally damaging it is than today’s blend.

16 Gus  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 12:51:45pm

Shrug.

17 Gus  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 12:52:32pm

Also. Not cannibalism.

18 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 12:54:36pm

re: #15 dragonath

Something old is “new” again.

19 Gus  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 12:54:46pm

ICYMI

20 Gus  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 12:55:34pm

re: #19 Gus

ICYMI

Which puts them opposite of Iran.

21 AlexRogan  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 12:56:01pm

re: #12 wrenchwench

He saw a video in which a soldier took a beating heart out of a dead body. That’s a pretty good trick.

I think that he’s watched too much Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.

/KALI MA!!!!

22 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 12:57:01pm

re: #20 Gus

Which puts them opposite of Iran.

It’s almost like all Muslim nations aren’t working together towards global Sharia caliphateness.

23 AntonSirius  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 12:57:47pm

re: #14 Gus

I ate the heart of a Syrian - Abu Sakkar speaks

Actually Beck had access to some much more gruesome footage:

Youtube Video

24 Gus  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 1:01:57pm

One wild and crazy rebel eats heart (might have been a lung) of dead Syrian soldier = Muslims are savages.

One American soldier murders 16 Afghan villagers in dead of night = oh he’s probably just crazy.

25 Gus  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 1:04:13pm

re: #22 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

It’s almost like all Muslim nations aren’t working together towards global Sharia caliphateness.

There goes that theory. It’s Sunni vs. Shia. Typically. There are many different sects of Islam. Including secular Muslims. People however still think that Muslim is this one big unified religious group and it’s not.

26 AlexRogan  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 1:06:21pm

re: #24 Gus

One wild and crazy rebel eats heart (might have been a lung) of dead Syrian soldier = Muslims are savages.

One American soldier murders 16 Afghan villagers in dead of night = oh he’s probably just crazy.

LONE WOLF!!!11ty

///

27 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 1:07:40pm

re: #25 Gus

Whats hysterical is some people, who if Islam was all unified would scaremonger about that, will then scaremonger off of Muslims attacking Muslims, calling them savages.

28 Gus  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 1:09:48pm

re: #27 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Whats hysterical is some people, who if Islam was all unified would scaremonger about that, will then scaremonger off of Muslims attacking Muslims, calling them savages.

Right. I’m pretty sure the dead Muslim soldier wouldn’t have approved of this either.

29 engineer cat  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 1:10:17pm

What Does The “Patriot” Act Do?

an explanation by the ACLU

when dark asked me the other day to justify my assertion that the “patriot” act is unconstitutional, my answer was uninformed by any particular expertise. while the above article by the ACLU does assert some ideological points of view, it is mostly an informed summary of what changes the “patriot” act makes to the protections of the 4th amendment. whatever you think of its conclusions, you have to admit that the ACLU is unlikely to make uninformed or indefensible assertions about a legal issue

30 sauceruney  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 1:10:45pm

Every time I see Beck I’m reminded of that William S. Burroughs routine about the man who taught his asshole to talk.

31 dragonath  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 1:11:30pm

Oh shit

Turkish police clear Istanbul sit-in

Lines of police backed by armoured vehicles sealed off Taksim Square in the centre of the city on Saturday as officers stormed the adjoining Gezi Park, where protesters had been camped in a ramshackle settlement of tents for more than two weeks.

In the AK Party rally in Ankara, the prime minister also accused “a network of treachery” of being responsible for the unrest that has gripped the country for more than two weeks.

Erdogan said that the protests are not about the environment, as those in Taksim Square say, but are part of a plot “coordinated inside and outside” Turkey.

“I will reveal this network of treachery with the documents proving [it],” he said.

32 Gus  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 1:14:02pm

Yeah. The Islamophobaderps were all over this on Liveleak.

33 Gus  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 1:16:44pm

Waterboarding is also a civilized practice. Uh huh.

34 engineer cat  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 1:17:06pm

re: #30 sauceruney

Every time I see Beck I’m reminded of that William S. Burroughs routine about the man who taught his asshole to talk.

i’d like to think that if i taught my asshole to talk, it would have something more intelligent to say

35 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 1:17:52pm

re: #33 Gus

Waterboarding is also a civilized practice. Uh huh.

When your society has a government job that is best described as ‘torture expert’— that’s civilization.

36 Gus  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 1:19:21pm

Speaking of religions.

37 Gus  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 1:23:56pm
38 b.d.  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 1:24:33pm

So I guess the only thing left to do is buy gold?

39 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 1:26:41pm

re: #38 b.d.

And the price of gold is going down. Spot gold price is at the top of left hand column kitco.com

40 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 1:27:32pm

re: #31 dragonath

“I will reveal this network of treachery with the documents proving [it],” he said.

wonder if it will be PowerPoint slides…

41 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 1:28:04pm

re: #36 Gus

I looked up a quote they’d mined from him. Shocked to find they took it out of context. He’s definitely a firebrand and I doubt I’d support everything he’d say, but he’s very much not anti-Christian, he’s anti-Evangelical-fundamentalist-Christian.

42 engineer cat  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 1:31:51pm

re: #38 b.d.

So I guess the only thing left to do is buy gold?

only if you short it

43 b.d.  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 1:32:32pm

Scoff people at your own peril. I have heard that Beck has Direct Access to the Book of Mormon.

44 engineer cat  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 1:36:59pm

re: #43 b.d.

Scoff people at your own peril. I have heard that Beck has Direct Access to the Book of Mormon.

i’m going to see a doctor because i’m worried about my persistent scoffing

45 dragonath  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 1:37:39pm

re: #25 Gus

There goes that theory. It’s Sunni vs. Shia. Typically. There are many different sects of Islam. Including secular Muslims. People however still think that Muslim is this one big unified religious group and it’s not.

Rick Perry Mistakes Lebanon for Libya

46 122 Year Old Obama  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 1:38:53pm

re: #45 dragonath

And this guy keeps getting elected. Wat.

47 dragonath  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 1:40:26pm

re: #46 122 Year Old Obama

And this guy keeps getting elected. Wat.

It’s okay. Sometimes I mistake Texas for Arizona.

48 Gus  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 1:42:52pm

Gohmert: Muslim Brotherhood Fronts Pushing Sharia Law

Youtube Video

49 Occam's Guillotine  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 1:45:58pm

You know who else is associated with cannibals? That’s right, REPUBLICANS!
Namely, Alferd Packer, the renowned 19th century Colorado cannibal.

“Legend has it that Judge Melville B. Gerry of Lake City , a Democrat, pronounced sentence upon Packer this way:

‘You voracious man-eating son of a bitch, there was seven Democrats in Hinsdale County and you ate five of them. God damn you! I sentence you to be hanged by the neck until you are dead, Dead, DEAD, as a warning against reducing the Democratic population of Hinsdale County. Packer, you Republican cannibal, I would sentence you to Hell but the statutes forbid it.’”

(The quote is probably apocryphal, alas, but so are many of Beck’s lurid claims)

50 Ace-o-aces  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 1:50:58pm

re: #38 b.d.

So I guess the only thing left to do is buy gold?

Yeah, never understood why you would promote the idea that the economy is going to collapse if your trying to convince people to invest in gold. If society collapses, I would think canned food and shotguns would be a better bet.

51 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 1:53:08pm

re: #50 Ace-o-aces

Yeah, never understood why you would promote the idea that the economy is going to collapse if your trying to convince people to invest in gold. If society collapses, I would think canned food and shotguns would be a better bet.

The list of things that would be more useful is incredibly long.

This is a common problem with that kind of Randian thinking: They don’t understand diminishing marginal utility.

52 Romantic Heretic  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 1:56:16pm

re: #51 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

The list of things that would be more useful is incredibly long.

This is a common problem with that kind of Randian thinking: They don’t understand diminishing marginal utility.

I don’t believe they understand much of anything.

53 Gus  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 1:57:01pm
54 Occam's Guillotine  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 1:57:44pm

re: #49 Occam’s Guillotine

There still aren’t very many Democrats in Hinsdale County (pop. 853). This is hardly surprising, given its historic reputation for being infested with Republican cannibals.
2012 Election results, Hinsdale County

55 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 2:01:10pm

re: #52 Romantic Heretic

I don’t believe they understand much of anything.

I actually managed to convince a friend of mine the other day, a “libertarian” type who’s a little young and doesn’t have much economic experience, that having more people with some money is better than having a few people with a lot and most people with none.

His counterargument was that you needed big chunks of capital to do cool stuff in this world. My response was that that is what banks (and stocks) are supposed to do, to aggregate monies and invest, on the one hand, and to let people individually buy IPO stock to get companies off the ground. He didn’t really have a response, he honestly hand’t thought of things that way before.

The right wing media has ‘humanized’ the corporations, has called them ‘job creators’, has mythologized them into these benevolent people, enjoying their wealth and creating jobs and not putting up with any lazybones. But I think it’s a pretty fragile image, because there’s a lot of anger against corporations and it keeps bubbling over in the GOP stewpot, ugly chunks of ‘zionist banker’ bullshit and ‘bug business wants to sell us to the UN’ cropping up— as well as just a lot of ordinary folk silk of being screwed over by corporations.

56 engineer cat  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 2:13:00pm

re: #50 Ace-o-aces

Yeah, never understood why you would promote the idea that the economy is going to collapse if your trying to convince people to invest in gold. If society collapses, I would think canned food and shotguns would be a better bet.

gold is very nourishing - if you desperately need to feed your delusions

57 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 2:14:14pm

re: #24 Gus

I could also use this to point out this little bit of history:

Mountain Meadows Massacre.

The wagon train—composed almost entirely of families from Arkansas—was bound for California on a route that passed through the Utah Territory during a turbulent time period, later known as the Utah War. After arriving in Salt Lake City, the Baker-Fancher party made their way south, eventually stopping to rest at Mountain Meadows. While the emigrants were camped at the meadow, nearby militia leaders, including Isaac C. Haight and John D. Lee, made plans to attack the wagon train.

The militia, officially called the Nauvoo Legion, was composed of Utah’s Mormon settlers (members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints or LDS Church). Intending to give the appearance of Native American aggression, their plan was to arm some Southern Paiute Native Americans and persuade them to join with a larger party of their own militiamen—disguised as Native Americans—in an attack. During the militia’s first assault on the wagon train, the emigrants fought back and a five-day siege ensued. Eventually fear spread among the militia’s leaders that some emigrants had caught sight of white men, and had likely discovered the identity of their attackers. As a result militia commander William H. Dame ordered his forces to kill the emigrants.

By this time the emigrants were running low on water and provisions, and allowed some approaching members of the militia—who carried a white flag—to enter their camp. The militia members assured the emigrants their protection and escorted them from the hasty fortification. After walking a distance from the camp, the militiamen, with the help of auxiliary forces hiding nearby, attacked the emigrants. Intending to leave no witnesses and to prevent reprisals to complicate the Utah War, the perpetrators killed all the adults and older children (totaling about 120 men, women, and children). Seventeen children, all younger than seven, were spared.

Following the massacre, the perpetrators hastily buried the victims, leaving the bodies vulnerable to wild animals and the climate. Local families took in the surviving children, and many of the victims’ possessions were auctioned off. Investigations, temporarily interrupted by the American Civil War, resulted in nine indictments during 1874. Of the men indicted, only John D. Lee was tried in a court of law. After two trials in the Utah Territory, Lee was convicted by a jury, sentenced to death, and executed.

Today historians attribute the massacre to a combination of factors, including war hysteria about possible invasion of Mormon territory, and strident Mormon teachings against outsiders. Scholars debate whether senior Mormon leadership, including Brigham Young, directly instigated the massacre or if responsibility lay with the local leaders in southern Utah.

Islam in general has a better history with the US. I don’t get why we get judged as un-American, when, with a handful of notable exceptions, we are peaceful, and loyal to the nation. Why do we get judged, the Mormon Church as an organization (not its individuals) get a pass? Not to mention the whole White Horse Prophecy. Or the Theocracy in Nauvoo.

58 AlexRogan  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 2:16:06pm

re: #13 wrenchwench

It’s just that his vocal cords are swollen.

I thought it was just a bad case of hemorrhoids, since Beck has his head firmly planted up his ass…

59 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 2:16:47pm

re: #57 ProTARDISLiberal

For fuck’s sake, shit that happened during the settling of the West is really not goddamn relevant.

60 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 2:17:10pm

re: #57 ProTARDISLiberal

Wait, I got a couple others. The Kirtland Bank Fraud, and Joesph Smith’s breaking of an agreement between the local Moromons and Missourians. And don’t forget about the Danites.

61 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 2:19:30pm

re: #60 ProTARDISLiberal

Stop the creepy Mormon-bashing.

62 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 2:19:51pm

re: #59 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

I think differently. The Mormon Church gleefully joins in the Muslim-Bashing. They get a pass on their history, but a few yahoos get the millions of us judged. Why?

63 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 2:20:21pm

re: #62 ProTARDISLiberal

Great to see you’re back to your stupid group blame hatefest bullshit.

64 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 2:22:09pm

Are all the major Evangelical religions also end-times religions? Are the Southern Baptists apocalyptic these days? I honestly don’t know that much about the various types of Evangelical christian.

65 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 2:22:59pm

re: #63 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

I’ve known nice individual Mormons. However, the Mormon Church as an organization is toxic in ways too numerous to count.

I think that is a fair summary.

66 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 2:24:35pm

re: #64 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Yes. They are. Having been in an Evangelical Church and a Southern Baptist Church in the past, they are this way. But, it has been like this since before Obama.

67 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 2:24:37pm

re: #65 ProTARDISLiberal

Boy, I sure do like Muslims now that I’ve seen a Muslim frothingly attack Mormons for shit that happened in 1858.

Cant you at least not make this about Islam vs. Mormons? You really think that Muslims need a permanently angry dude speaking on behalf of them?

68 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 2:27:33pm

Shit, 1/3rd of Americans think we’re in the end times because there’s lots of storms.

religion.blogs.cnn.com

69 freetoken  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 2:29:41pm

The half-governor and once-again Faux talking head apparently went all out today at FFC.

It looks like the DEATH PANELS! will be enforced by none other than, yes, ARMED IRS!!!

70 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 2:29:50pm

re: #67 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

No, but at the same time, I think if we are accused of being traitors, we should be able to refute the allegations. Especially if there is a glaring hypocrisy.

71 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 2:31:30pm

re: #68 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

This isn’t new. Why, look at the Great Disappointment, 170 years ago.

The Great Disappointment was a major event in the history of the Millerite movement, a 19th-century American Christian sect that formed out of the Second Great Awakening. Based on his interpretations of the prophecies in the book of Daniel (Chapters 8 and 9, especially Dan. 8:14 “Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed”), William Miller, a Baptist preacher, proposed that Jesus Christ would return to the earth during the year 1844. The more specific date of October 22, 1844, was preached by Samuel S. Snow. Thousands of followers, some of whom had given away all of their possessions, waited expectantly. When Jesus did not appear, October 22, 1844, became known as the Great Disappointment.

72 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 2:34:02pm

re: #70 ProTARDISLiberal

Hypocrisy isn’t proved by bringing up bullshit from 1858. Feel free to attack the Mormon church, for, say, regressive attitudes towards gays, but unfortunately that’s also true of the majority of US Muslims, too.

ispu.org

73 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 2:38:27pm

re: #7 bratwurst

As a resident of Chicagoland, the fact he is wearing a Blackhawks cap is nearly as disturbing as his blather.

Quite Concur.

74 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 2:43:19pm

re: #69 freetoken

The half-governor and once-again Faux talking head apparently went all out today at FFC.

It looks like the DEATH PANELS! will be enforced by none other than, yes, ARMED IRS!!!

This is Old News. That the IRS has armed personnel is not a secret, and those agents are tasked with the enforcement of tax law.

Caribou Barbie Dances With Bullshit.

75 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 2:44:01pm

re: #74 Dark_Falcon

Some little know feller named Eliott Ness, for example.

76 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 2:49:05pm

re: #72 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

True, but it is getting better, as seen on page 43. The Mormon Church is too, hierarchical(??) for this to happen anytime soon. Muslims in the US tends to be a herd of cats.

On the other hand, look at how the Mormon Church handled Prop 8. I would compare it to the Catholic Church, but the Catholics are only organized in theory. All the little factions make things interesting, and do result in real change in the Catholic Church over time.

77 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 2:49:28pm

re: #75 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Some little know feller named Eliott Ness, for example.

Yes indeed, but of course Sarah Palin isn’t going to let reality stand in the way of her scare story.

78 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 2:49:48pm

re: #75 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Some little know feller named Eliott Ness, for example.

Ness was a Bureau of Prohibition agent. Despite the mythology and depiction of events in the Untouchables movie he wasn’t really involved with the IRS prosecution of Capone.

79 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 2:50:50pm

re: #78 goddamnedfrank

Treasury agents are armed.

80 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 2:52:18pm

re: #78 goddamnedfrank

Ness was a Bureau of Prohibition agent. Despite the mythology and depiction of events in the Untouchables movie he wasn’t really involved with the IRS prosecution of Capone.

Brian de Palma was a uninterested in actual history in making his movie as Sarah Palin is. But de Palma has real talent and can tell a good story, traits Sister Sarah lacks.

81 dragonath  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 2:52:36pm

Dammit bring the end times on already.

82 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 2:53:01pm

re: #76 ProTARDISLiberal

“The Catholics are organized only in theory”?

Catholicism is a lot more hierarchical than Mormonism. A lot more. The laity of the Catholic church has zero input into decisions, and the divide between priest and laity is huge. In Mormonism, priests and even bishops are also ‘normal’ citizens, like Romney was.

Why the fuck can’t you stop once you start attacking? It’s so creepy. Can’t you just give it a rest? You’re supposedly doing this to benefit Islam because somehow you think if you say bad shit about Mormons that’ll help Islam, but all you’re doing is embarrassing yourself.

83 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 2:53:16pm

re: #78 goddamnedfrank

Ness was a Bureau of Prohibition agent. Despite the mythology and depiction of events in the Untouchables movie he wasn’t really involved with the IRS prosecution of Capone.

I just meant he was Treasury.

84 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 2:53:50pm

re: #81 dragonath

Nah. It is just the dawning of the age of aquarius. /half kidding

85 Skip Intro  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 2:54:01pm

re: #6 Dr. Matt

When is he going to reveal his ground breaking news that is going to shake the foundation of this country?

Blah, that was just the end of the country. Beck’s moved on to the End of the World!

The only question is how is he going to top that on Monday?

86 wrenchwench  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 2:57:26pm

re: #76 ProTARDISLiberal

True, but it is getting better, as seen on page 43. The Mormon Church is too, hierarchical(??) for this to happen anytime soon. Muslims in the US tends to be a herd of cats.

On the other hand, look at how the Mormon Church handled Prop 8. I would compare it to the Catholic Church, but the Catholics are only organized in theory. All the little factions make things interesting, and do result in real change in the Catholic Church over time.

You and Stabby should teach a class on Comparative Religions together some time.

87 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 3:02:18pm

re: #82 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

He’s like me, Obdi: He doesn’t like to lose and believes in fighting his position hard. PLL ain’t creepy, he’s just a fierce and determined young man who’s had a tough time of it.

88 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 3:04:07pm

re: #87 Dark_Falcon

It’s the group blame that’s creepy, and now just the wholesale making up of facts to support that group blame.

89 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 3:05:00pm

re: #87 Dark_Falcon

I will admit an elitism here as well. I had ancestors fight in the Revolution, and possibly the Civil War. The portions of my family that were here by then were Pro-Union.

And then of course you have the Civil War, and the Utah War.

90 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 3:07:11pm

re: #89 ProTARDISLiberal

I will admit an elitism here as well. I had ancestors fight in the Revolution, and possibly the Civil War. The portions of my family that were here by then were Pro-Union.

And then of course you have the Civil War, and the Utah War.

My own family was on both sides and I know of one ancestor who is confirmed as wearing Union Blue, while at least one other is certain to have donned Confederate Grey.

91 Skip Intro  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 3:08:16pm

re: #39 PhillyPretzel

And the price of gold is going down. Spot gold price is at the top of left hand column kitco.com

They need to add the Beck/Limbaugh gold price. 20-30% higher than spot because it’s a better quality gold.

92 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 3:09:56pm

re: #90 Dark_Falcon

I am not sure on the Civil War, as I stated there, as it is hard to find records, and I have no clue where to start.

93 The Ghost of a Flea  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 3:16:34pm

re: #76 ProTARDISLiberal

As someone who comes from a background very similar to what you describe, I seriously, seriously advise you to learn and practice mindfulness, particularly with regards to how your internal struggles color your understanding of the world.

You are a very empathetic person, that’s a good thing. That you feel pain and outrage confronted with another person’s pain is a good thing. But—and it’s a big but—what matters most is how you react, for in truth it’s the only thing you have control over. As a nonbeliever, I come to this by way of secular philosophy like Stoicism and Epicurianism, but—at the risk of telling you about your own faith—this is a part of the Sufi al-jihad-al-akbar, the struggle against the ego.

I’m going to go out on a limb and say this whole “I am furious about the past stuff” emanates from an unhealthy place in your own life. That’s how it was for me…for years. That constant grind of anxiety, fear, and doubt inculcated by a difficult home life makes it easy to escape into anger: anger is clarifying, but it’s ignus fatuous. It’s a way of not dealing with the marks others have made on you, of transmuting your pain, and it’s not healthy.

94 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 3:21:01pm
SCOTT KEYES: The Senate this summer is going to be taking up the Employment Non-Discrimination Act which makes it illegal to fire someone for being gay. Do you know if you’ll be supporting that?

MARCO RUBIO: I haven’t read the legislation. By and large I think all Americans should be protected but I’m not for any special protections based on orientation.

KEYES: What about on race or gender?

RUBIO: Well that’s established law.

So “special protections” based on race and gender are okay only because it’s “established law.” In other words before those laws were passed and became established Rubio might well have opposed them too.

Basically Rubio is an unprincipled enabler of bigotry who’s primary concern is that the law continue to allow the persecution of unpopular minorities.

95 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 3:21:27pm

Wait, what happened to Illinois’ Gay Marriage thing?

96 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 3:31:37pm

re: #95 ProTARDISLiberal

Wait, what happened to Illinois’ Gay Marriage thing?

It passed the state senate but stalled out in the state assembly. Though the Democrats have a strong majority in that chamber and the bill has some Republican support, African-American Democrats have proven unwilling to vote for the measure. There’s a special session on Wednesday, but the major topic is pension reform. If the gay marriage bill were brought up for a vote in the Illinois State Assembly, as things stand today it would be voted down.

97 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 3:33:20pm

BBL

98 AntonSirius  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 3:41:55pm

re: #90 Dark_Falcon

My own family was on both sides and I know of one ancestor who is confirmed as wearing Union Blue, while at least one other is certain to have donned Confederate Grey.

There’s a ceremonial Confederate cavalry sabre floating around in my family with our name engraved on the blade.

99 AntonSirius  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 3:45:15pm

re: #94 goddamnedfrank

Basically Rubio is an unprincipled enabler of bigotry who’s primary concern is that the law continue to allow the persecution of unpopular minorities he stays in the good books of the lunatics who run the GOP asylum.

FTFY

100 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:34:16am

“We Are at the End”

Oh thank Zod.
I don’t have to hear this twit anymore.


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