Glenn Greenwald: America Is “The Most Brutal, Sprawling Prison State on Earth”

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In a conversation about NSA leaker Edward Snowden’s decision to flee to China, Glenn Greenwald can’t resist approvingly retweeting one of the craziest over-the-top statements I’ve seen yet:

That’s apparently Greenwald’s excuse for why Snowden fled to China, and his argument against people who call him a coward: the United States is so evil, Snowden had no other choice.

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120 comments
1 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 2:48:29pm

It doesn’t even make that much sense. Normally, those that do submit are cowards.

2 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 2:49:47pm

idiots gotta derp…

3 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 2:50:41pm

Some one needs to remind him that if we were that bad, he’d be dead already.

Obama’s almost as bad at tyranny as he his at socialism…

4 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 2:51:10pm
5 Stanghazi  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 2:51:33pm

Yeah, if you are a black dude with weed.

6 Kragar  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 2:51:45pm

I’ll wait for Glen’s reports from inside the secret FEMA camps.

7 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 2:52:10pm

Doesn’t he choose to live in Brazil? You know, police/contractor death squads in the favelas?

8 AntonSirius  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 2:52:12pm

re: #3 William Barnett-Lewis

Some one needs to remind him that if we were that bad, he’d be dead already.

Obama’s almost as bad at tyranny as he his at socialism…

It’s amazing those two have Twitter privileges in prison.

9 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 2:52:24pm

Red alert… Glenn Greenwald’s ego is about to swallow the entire solar system…

10 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 2:53:12pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

Red alert… Glenn Greenwald’s ego is about to swallow the entire solar system…

Too late.

11 jaunte  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 2:53:43pm
If you don’t submit
to the most brutal, sprawling prison state on earth
you are a coward.

Can some one explain what this is supposed to mean?

12 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 2:54:44pm

re: #11 jaunte

Can some one explain what this is supposed to mean?

Means he’s not good at haiku, either.

13 Malcolman  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 2:54:49pm

Link

Lets call a spade a spade.

14 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 2:54:53pm

re: #11 jaunte

Can some one explain what this is supposed to mean?

That’s their excuse for why Snowden fled to China, and their argument against people who call him a coward: the evil United States. He had no other choice.

15 AntonSirius  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 2:55:25pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

We should call that the Greenwald Defense from now on. “No journalist is perfectly objective, therefore my motives cannot be questioned.”

16 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 2:55:31pm

re: #11 jaunte

Only people like him are “brave.” Everyone else is a “coward.”

17 jaunte  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 2:55:50pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Thanks. Too many assumptions packed into it to be comprehensible.

18 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 2:58:02pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

WTF????

19 AntonSirius  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 2:58:34pm

re: #13 Malcolman

Link

Lets call a spade a spade.

That’s not what the implication is though. They’re not saying Snowden had to flee because of the drug war, he had to flee because he would inevitably have been tortured in a way that made Manning’s treatment look like a kindergarten time out.

That’s the subtext of the exchange.

20 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 2:58:47pm

re: #13 Malcolman

Link

Lets call a spade a spade.

Because we have enough money to buy the drugs, and not enough brains to make them legal.

21 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 2:59:02pm

re: #18 Backwoods_Sleuth

double speak.

22 stabby  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:00:14pm

re: #13 Malcolman

Yep. So he’s right but his totally inaccurate hyped up story has nothing to do with this fact.

23 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:00:32pm

re: #13 Malcolman

Link

Lets call a spade a spade.

Before you co-sign this ridiculous statement, explain how the US prison system is more brutal than this: Prisons in North Korea.

Numbers are only part of the story.

24 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:00:42pm

Could it be that he’s flying twitter without sarc tags?

25 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:00:50pm

re: #21 PhillyPretzel

double speak.

Surprised that he didn’t esplode when he said the actual truth about himself.

26 jaunte  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:00:50pm

Daniel Ellsberg was the braver man for “submitting,” if that’s what they want to call it.

27 Targetpractice  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:00:57pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Okay, I admit I wasn’t the smartest kid in school, but aren’t reporters supposed to report the truth objectively, rather than editorialize?

28 stabby  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:01:37pm

re: #20 Decatur Deb

I bet it’s not just the drug war, I bet it’s a system that tries to put as many people away as possible for as long as possible for every damn thing.

29 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:02:29pm

re: #28 stabby

I bet it’s not just the drug war, I bet it’s a system that tries to put as many people away as possible for as long as possible for every damn thing.

Selected types of people, and the drug war is the selective tool.

30 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:02:58pm

re: #27 Targetpractice

Okay, I admit I wasn’t the smartest kid in school, but aren’t reporters supposed to report the truth objectively, rather than editorialize?

Reporters told you that, didn’t they?

31 b.d.  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:03:31pm

I’m tired of your intrusive brutality, I’m going to China

32 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:03:39pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

Before you co-sign this ridiculous statement, explain how the US prison system is more brutal than this: Prisons in North Korea.

Numbers are only part of the story.

Pakistan has one of the lowest incarceration rates.

33 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:04:25pm

re: #31 b.d.

I’m tired of your intrusive brutality, I’m going to China

Could you bring back enough spring rolls for us all?

34 Single-handed sailor  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:05:21pm

re: #28 stabby

I bet it’s not just the drug war, I bet it’s a system that tries to put as many people away as possible for as long as possible for every damn thing.

“Vote for me. I’m tough on crime.”

35 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:06:41pm

I’m moving to the liberal heaven of Burkina Faso which has a really low incarceration rate. Whew.

36 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:07:40pm

Or Yemen. Really low rate. That was always a libertarian heaven.

37 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:08:13pm

re: #13 Malcolman

Link

Lets call a spade a spade.

And? That we jail more people means were the most brutal prison state?

38 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:09:43pm
39 b.d.  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:13:05pm

Is there some sort of secret contest that I am not aware of to see who can get GG to say the stupidest thing?

I want in.

40 Kragar  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:13:35pm

re: #37 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

And? That we jail more people means were the most brutal prison state?

Its just like a Turkish prison or Chinese labor camp.

41 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:13:49pm

re: #39 b.d.

Is there some sort of secret contest that I am not aware of to see who can get GG to say the stupidest thing?

I want in.

Pro tip: Just keep him tweeting.

42 erik_t  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:14:01pm

I think I’m just calling them both Glenn Beckwald from now on. It’ll save time, with no loss of generality.

43 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:16:56pm

re: #33 Decatur Deb

Could you bring back enough spring rolls for us all?

but can it explode like a burrito?
just an academic question…
//

44 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:18:00pm

re: #40 Kragar

Its just like a Turkish prison or Chinese labor camp.

We have terrible conditions in many prisons in this country. We have a systemically racist justice system. We have a lot of problems we need to examine. But we have goddamn trials, we have defense attorneys, we have you know what, fuck it, Greenwald doesn’t even believe what he’s saying.

45 erik_t  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:18:38pm

Can Glenn Beckwald release a story in the next 24 hours that is so damaging and wide-reaching that it can bring down the entire US power structure and/or brutal sprawling prison state that has been alleged by Glenn Beckwald?

See, it really works!

46 Occam's Guillotine  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:18:54pm

Yeah, that’s why Greenwald’s many American fans are running around loose instead of being nabbed for organ harvesting or set to work making clothes for Walmart for a bowl of gruel every day. Let them eat grass.

47 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:20:00pm

re: #26 jaunte

Daniel Ellsberg was the braver man for “submitting,” if that’s what they want to call it.

Cowards always find a way to justify their cowardice. Ellesburg didn’t have to justify his being willing to face the consequences of his actions, because that willingness spoke for itself.

48 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:21:05pm

re: #44 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

We have terrible conditions in many prisons in this country. We have a systemically racist justice system. We have a lot of problems we need to exist eliminate. But we have goddamn trials, we have defense attorneys, we have you know what, fuck it, Greenwald doesn’t even believe what he’s saying.

Suggested revision.

49 jaunte  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:21:23pm

What’s been different since 2008… let’s see….

50 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:22:29pm

re: #45 erik_t

Can Glenn Beckwald release a story in the next 24 hours that is so damaging and wide-reaching that it can bring down the entire US power structure and/or brutal sprawling prison state that has been alleged by Glenn Beckwald?

See, it really works!

EnergyStar savings!!!

51 Occam's Guillotine  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:23:11pm

Daniel Ellsberg didn’t submit and he didn’t run off to Red China, though they would have welcomed him with open arms.

52 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:24:03pm

re: #49 jaunte

What’s been different since 2008… let’s see….

Greenwald isn’t freaking out because Barack Obama is black, he’s freaking out because Obama has followed a sane intelligence policy for the US.

53 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:24:14pm

#GuardianBond

54 Kragar  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:25:12pm
55 jaunte  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:25:44pm
56 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:28:29pm

re: #54 Kragar

Solution to saving America: outbreed ‘em. Conservatives have 41% fertility advantage over libs.

Where do one begin?

57 Targetpractice  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:29:16pm

re: #54 Kragar

Uhm, Bryan, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but conservatism doesn’t exactly breed true.

58 Occam's Guillotine  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:29:27pm

How much ammunition are the crazed right wingers and conspiracy believers in China hoarding? Oh, I see, it is a free country and its citizens feel no need to resist tyranny.

Idiots.

59 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:30:11pm

re: #57 Targetpractice

Uhm, Bryan, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but conservatism doesn’t exactly breed true.

First thought: “Fucking, stupid.”

60 Cap'n Magic  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:30:45pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

It isn’t ego: it’s narcissism.

61 bratwurst  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:31:05pm

re: #54 Kragar

I think this guy proved that children don’t always share their parents political proclivities.

Oh yeah, THIS guy too!

62 Targetpractice  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:32:45pm

Seriously, if conservatism were the dominant gene that Bryan thought, then the GOP wouldn’t be looking at extinction.

63 engineer cat  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:32:48pm

America Is “The Most Brutal, Sprawling

not only that, but i continue to be forced against my will to share this country with humans!!

64 erik_t  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:35:09pm

re: #52 Dark_Falcon

Greenwald isn’t freaking out because Barack Obama is black, he’s freaking out because Obama has followed a sane intelligence policy for the US.

Glenn is freaking out because Glenn is a freak. There need not be a reason.

65 engineer cat  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:36:06pm

waitress now pissed off at me becuz i corrected her pronunciation of “andouille sausage” from ‘an-dooley’

got to stop this rude habit of mine

66 Targetpractice  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:36:58pm

re: #49 jaunte

What’s been different since 2008… let’s see….

Ron Paul isn’t president.

67 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:37:31pm

re: #65 engineer cat

waitress now pissed off at me becuz i corrected her pronunciation of “andouille sausage” from ‘an-dooley’

got to stop this rude habit of mine

Don’t eat the etouffee.

68 Occam's Guillotine  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:39:00pm

I think the “cry wolf” factor has actually mitigated the reaction to the NSA revelations. Conspira-liars and other contrarian media have been declaring for decades that this and a lot more was already happening. Suppose the government did some day start assassinating domestic enemies, packing dissidents off to secret prisons, and somehow getting the mainstream media to cover for them. What would be different in the conspiracy industry’s message?
“No, no, WE’RE TELLING THE TRUTH THIS TIME! Arrrgghhh!”

69 AlexRogan  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:40:52pm

re: #40 Kragar

Its just like a Turkish prison or Chinese labor camp.

Kragar, have you ever been in a Turkish prison?

/Capt. Clarence Oveur

70 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:42:35pm

re: #68 Occam’s Guillotine

I think the “cry wolf” factor has actually mitigated the reaction to the NSA revelations. Conspira-liars and other contrarian media have been declaring for years that this and a lot more was already happening. Suppose the government did some day start assassinating domestic enemies, packing dissidents off to secret prisons, and somehow getting the mainstream media to cover for them. What would be different in the conspiracy industry’s message?
“No, no, WE’RE TELLING THE TRUTH THIS TIME! Arrrgghhh!”

The difference would be that they’d stop screaming and start shitting their pants.

71 AlexRogan  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:42:58pm

re: #57 Targetpractice

Uhm, Bryan, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but conservatism doesn’t exactly breed true.

They’re counting on Quiverfull adherents, as exemplified by the Duggars, to save them.

Hate to tell you, Bryan, but “conservatism” as you define it is well and truly fucked, those of us with half a brain would like to think.

Good thing for the rest of us who aren’t batshit insane…

72 The Ghost of a Flea  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:43:54pm

re: #40 Kragar

Its just like a Turkish prison or Chinese labor camp.

Not to be all incarceration hipster, but I think Thai prisons are the new Turkish prisons.

73 Lancelot Link  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:47:39pm

I wonder if Greenwald will criticize the ongoing police brutality against protesters this week in Sao Paolo (you know, where he lives).

74 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:47:40pm

re: #1 Decatur Deb

It doesn’t even make that much sense. Normally, those that do submit are cowards.

He means, ‘If you don’t submit to said sprawling prison state, and instead release top secret information to Glenn Greenwald and leave, you are considered by people to be a coward.” (With a suggestion that he does not agree with this analysis.)

140 characters is hard on nuance.

75 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:48:44pm

re: #3 William Barnett-Lewis

Some one needs to remind him that if we were that bad, he’d be dead already.

Obama’s almost as bad at tyranny as he his at socialism…

It got no one anywhere with Naomi Wolf to remind her of that. It’s fun to be the target of an oppressive government if you’re pretty sure nothing will happen to you.

76 The Ghost of a Flea  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:48:59pm

re: #71 AlexRogan

They’re counting on Quiverfull adherents like the Duggars to save them.

Hate to tell you, Bryan, but “conservatism” as you define it is well and truly fucked.

Good thing for the rest of us…

Yeah. Guess Bryan et al haven’t gone over to NoLongerQuivering to see how that breeding program working out.

Hint: not all the wives and kids are enthusiastic. Whodathunkit?

77 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:49:28pm

re: #74 SanFranciscoZionist

He means, ‘If you don’t submit to said sprawling prison state, and instead release top secret information to Glenn Greenwald and leave, you are considered by people to be a coward.” (With a suggestion that he does not agree with this analysis.)

140 characters is hard on nuance.

Think he was born several sarc tags behind the rest of us.

78 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:50:03pm

re: #71 AlexRogan

They’re counting on Quiverfull adherents like the Duggars to save them.

Hate to tell you, Bryan, but “conservatism” as you define it is well and truly fucked, those of us with half a brain would like to think.

Good thing for the rest of us…

And I’d bet he find out that a lot of the people he’s counting aren’t bigots like he is. Conservatism will survive, but bigotry is going the way of the dodo.

79 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:51:31pm

re: #44 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

We have terrible conditions in many prisons in this country. We have a systemically racist justice system. We have a lot of problems we need to examine. But we have goddamn trials, we have defense attorneys, we have you know what, fuck it, Greenwald doesn’t even believe what he’s saying.

These guys don’t deal well with ‘just because something is bad does not mean it is the WORST EVER’. Except, of course, in the case of countries or people they choose to like.

80 engineer cat  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:52:50pm

re: #64 erik_t

Glenn is freaking out because Glenn is a freak. There need not be a reason.

it’s his job!

81 Bubblehead II  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:54:55pm

Evening Lizards.

See the neocons are getting even more bat shit crazy.

Goooooooood. I see my evil plot is proceeding as planned……

Shit! Did I just mutter that out loud?

82 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:55:49pm

re: #81 Bubblehead II

yes.

83 Targetpractice  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:56:33pm

re: #76 The Ghost of a Flea

Yeah. Guess Bryan et al haven’t gone over to NoLongerQuivering to see how that breeding program working out.

Hint: not all the wives and kids are enthusiastic. Whodathunkit?

Quiverfull, preaching everything that “Real ‘Muricans” believe every Muslim is engaged in.

84 Bubblehead II  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:59:11pm

re: #82 PhillyPretzel

Damn!

85 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 3:59:52pm

re: #84 Bubblehead II

Your secret is out. /

86 Bubblehead II  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 4:05:49pm

/// Must deploy the transvaginal wand of forgetfulness.

Women parts! Be afraid! run! Hide!

87 engineer cat  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 4:06:03pm

say, dark - i put that page w the aclu’s explanation of what the “patriot” act does and why they think it’s unconstitutional to a large degree because you asked me the question the other day

they are of course able to do a much better job of answering it than i am

88 Occam's Guillotine  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 4:10:13pm

So, why is Alex Jones submitting to this monstous tyranny rather than emulating Snowden and fleeing to China?
It’s not because Jones is in no danger of arrest, either, at least according to him. He claims to be secretly targeted in a variety of ways that make a public manhunt look like a Welcome Wagon visit.

89 Targetpractice  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 4:11:39pm

Rumors going around that Bill Cosby has died. Trying to track down the source.

90 Kragar  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 4:11:40pm

re: #88 Occam’s Guillotine

So, why is Alex Jones submitting to this monstous tyranny rather than emulating Snowden and fleeing to China?

Because Alex Jones is actually a deep cover operative for the NSA.

91 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 4:11:41pm

re: #88 Occam’s Guillotine

He is trying to be tough. /

92 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 4:13:26pm

re: #89 Targetpractice

Nothing on Philly.com. Lets hope it is a nasty rumor.

93 Mattand  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 4:13:28pm

Good God, has Greenwald always been this over the top? This is pure, unrefined Alex Jones grade stupid.

94 Targetpractice  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 4:14:14pm

re: #92 PhillyPretzel

Nothing on Philly.com. Lets hope it is a nasty rumor.

My guess is it’s a rumor, because I heard it from a friend on Facebook and a quick check of the regular news sites shows a similar rumor as little as 10 days ago.

95 Occam's Guillotine  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 4:15:19pm

re: #90 Kragar

Because Alex Jones is actually a deep cover operative for the NSA.

Quite a few far-gone conspira-dupes actually believe this.

96 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 4:16:23pm

re: #94 Targetpractice

This article might be the reason why. kansas.com

97 Bubblehead II  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 4:18:21pm

re: #93 Mattand

Good God, has Greenwald always been this over the top? This is pure, unrefined Alex Jones grade stupid.

Actually, I think he is trying to join the main stream conservative movement. How else can you explain how a Black man has not once, but twice won the highest office of the United States?

CONSPIRACY!!!!111!!!111

98 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 4:22:32pm

re: #97 Bubblehead II

Actually, I think he is trying to join the main stream conservative movement. How else can you explain how a Black man has not once, but twice won the highest office of the United States?

Well, he won’t be seen as mainstream the way he’s going. His attack on America as a “prison state” automatically consigns him to the fringes.

99 erik_t  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 4:25:51pm

re: #98 Dark_Falcon

Well, he won’t be seen as mainstream the way he’s going. His attack on America as a “prison state” automatically consigns him to the fringes.

Which is funny, since (phrased in that way) that claim is apparently far more accurate and supportable than his NSA story.

100 engineer cat  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 4:26:50pm

re: #98 Dark_Falcon

Well, he won’t be seen as mainstream the way he’s going. His attack on America as a “prison state” automatically consigns him to the fringes.

the conservative movement these days has awfully wide fringes

101 Kragar  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 4:27:42pm

re: #95 Occam’s Guillotine

Quite a few far-gone conspira-dupes actually believe this.

Its the only logical explanation.
/

102 Bubblehead II  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 4:32:16pm

re: #98 Dark_Falcon

Well, he won’t be seen as mainstream the way he’s going. His attack on America as a “prison state” automatically consigns him to the fringes.

Yeah right. Fema camps, Black helicopters, NSA spying, ect.

Conservatives are starting to eat this shit up faster than a kid in a candy store. And you still ignore it. You have now entered into scroll over territory.

WAKE THE FUCK UP! Your party, like the Titanic, is screwed. It is going to sink. Your only choice is, am I going down with the Ship or am I going to try to survive. Somehow I think you will choose the former than admitt just how fucked up the Republican party has become.

103 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 4:33:04pm

re: #100 engineer cat

the conservative movement these days has awfully wide fringes

Is it a shiny, little surrey with the fringe on the top?

104 simoom  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 4:35:07pm

As of this moment, the original bogus C|net story has received 3,358 upvotes on Reddit, where as the highest rated Rep. Nadler response story has 30 upvotes. Talk about a perverse incentive for ethically challenged online media.

105 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 4:37:39pm

re: #100 engineer cat

the conservative movement these days has awfully wide fringes

Yes, but its one thing to claim that “Obama threatens to turn America into a brutal prison state”. Saying America is a ‘brutal prison state’, as Greenwald does, is seen as outside the mainstream for both parties. It is seen as bashing America as a country.

106 engineer cat  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 4:37:45pm

re: #103 William Barnett-Lewis

Is it a shiny, little surrey with the fringe on the top?

and generally appropriate to about that era

107 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 4:38:46pm

re: #54 Kragar


SORRY BRYAN YOU LOSE!!!

BWAHAHAA!!!11

108 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 4:39:23pm

re: #103 William Barnett-Lewis

Is it a shiny, little surrey with the fringe on the top?

No, that surrey had to be retired. It’s leather components had paint thrown on them by PETA two years ago.

//

109 engineer cat  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 4:42:53pm

Conservatives have a 41% breeding

this is a touching and utterly unscientific faith in biological determanism

110 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 4:46:45pm

VOMIT

Poor “Hobby Lobby” is being “persecuted” for not covering reproductive health care for their employees and using “faith” as an excuse.

111 Bubblehead II  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 4:49:33pm

re: #110 Vicious Babushka

VOMIT

Poor “Hobby Lobby” is being “persecuted” for not covering reproductive health care for their employees and using “faith” as an excuse.

My heart is bleeding. Maybe their god can intrevine. Isnn’t he stronger than the deviil?

112 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 4:49:53pm

re: #110 Vicious Babushka

VOMIT

Poor “Hobby Lobby” is being “persecuted” for not covering reproductive health care for their employees and using “faith” as an excuse.

That same site also features this brain dead ‘comic’:

Image: image7.jpg

I put ‘comic’ in quotes because it ain’t funny.

113 nines09  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 4:51:13pm

Happy Fathers Day to all you Mothers out there. All Along The Watchtower is ringing in my head as I try to understand the rational about all the hubbub, bub.

114 piratedan  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:33:56pm

re: #32 Gus

Pakistan has one of the lowest incarceration rates.

well yeah, no need to throw people you’ve already executed into prison…..

115 piratedan  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:41:39pm

re: #54 Kragar

You’re American Taliban, just one small step away from Nazi Eugenics, we don’t have enough Conservatives? Why we’ll simply breed more of them!

116 Lidane  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:07:47pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

That’s their excuse for why Snowden fled to China, and their argument against people who call him a coward: the evil United States. He had no other choice.

Is that Greenwald’s excuse for why he’s living in Brazil?

117 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:14:37pm

re: #116 Lidane

Is that Greenwald’s excuse for why he’s living in Brazil?

Greenwald’s reason is a perfectly good one: His marriage to a man isn’t recognized in the US at the federal level.

118 Mr.Boots  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:25:29pm

So, he hates Obama so much that he’s willing to smear our entire country and he still wants to be taken seriously? The winner of this week’s ODS competition is …

119 BaronHaynes  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:13:26pm

For someone as tenacious and thorough as Greenwald is about making his arguments, this story in particular seems to have generated a lot of careless hyperbole from him. Now that he has the national spotlight, he’s going Olbermann.

120 socrets  Mon, Jun 17, 2013 8:58:36pm

Oh please. The US is only a threatening prison state if you’re an African American male who smokes pot or a Libertarian without any common sense that decides to spill government secrets because of FREEDOM!! or some idealized naivete belief that the world is all sunshine, kittens, and unicorns that evil government is trying to destroy with its silly little things like laws. Greenwald and Snowden are both drama queens looking for attention and, apparently, seem to think that attacking the lesser of two evils is the way to go.


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