Director of National Intelligence’s Statement on CNET’s Bogus Story

“Incorrect and was not briefed to Congress”
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The Director of National Intelligence has released an official statement rebutting the hyperbolic claims made by CNET’s Declan McCullagh:

ODNI Statement on the Limits of Surveillance Activities

Sunday, June 16, 2013
Office of the Director of National Intelligence
Washington, DC 20511

The statement that a single analyst can eavesdrop on domestic communications without proper legal authorization is incorrect and was not briefed to Congress. Members have been briefed on the implementation of Section 702, that it targets foreigners located overseas for a valid foreign intelligence purpose, and that it cannot be used to target Americans anywhere in the world.

Office of the Director of National Intelligence Public Affairs Office

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1 Targetpractice  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:00:56pm

Obviously they’re lying, because they always lie! NOBAMA!!

/(We need a moonbat font)

2 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:01:43pm

“…was not briefed to Congress…” So Nadler was wrong then?

3 Kragar  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:03:16pm

Are you going to trust a man with years of experience and had to be vetted by multiple levels of government to get to his current position or a IT geek looking to make a name during a derpstorm?

4 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:04:07pm

re: #2 Gus

“…was not briefed to Congress…” So Nadler was wrong then?

Yup. But to be completely accurate he didn’t say he was briefed by the NSA.

I think he was full of crap and just grandstanding, and probably deliberately slipped in that out of context question about “listening” in the middle of a conversation about everything but listening.

5 AntonSirius  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:04:39pm

re: #2 Gus

“…was not briefed to Congress…” So Nadler was wrong then?

No, a vague statement of Nadler’s was misinterpreted by a hack.

6 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:04:57pm

Check the transcript - Mueller was obviously confused by the question when it sunk in what Nadler had just done, and went on the record to say so.

7 Bubblehead II  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:05:10pm

Members have been briefed on the implementation of Section 702, that it targets foreigners located overseas for a valid foreign intelligence purpose, and that it cannot be used to target Americans anywhere in the world.

Cough, Cough. Drone strikes Cough, Cough.

8 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:12:19pm

Anyone who’s ever watched a Congressional hearing knows that these are exactly the kinds of fucked-up rhetorical games these guys always play.

9 darthstar  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:13:35pm

Took the fish table that Bflat used to have his food on and removed the legs today, then screwed some slats to the back and hung it in the dining room looking out over the ocean.

Image: 1016202_10151678404488024_853645645_n.jpg

10 darthstar  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:14:32pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

Anyone who’s ever watched a Congressional hearing knows that these are exactly the kinds of fucked-up rhetorical games these guys always play.

Mojo Nixon refers to them as “lying cocksuckers”…I think that’s more to the point.

11 engineer cat  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:14:41pm

i tend to doubt that this flurry of claims, counter-claims, and ‘official statement’ bears a close resemblance to whatever might actually be going on

kabuki is par for the course in these matters

12 darthstar  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:15:39pm

re: #9 darthstar

Took the fish table that Bflat used to have his food on and removed the legs today, then screwed some slats to the back and hung it in the dining room looking out over the ocean.

Image: 1016202_10151678404488024_853645645_n.jpg

We’ve got a new tablecloth too…keeping with the fish theme.

13 Bubblehead II  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:15:56pm

Night Lizards. Sleep well.

14 Velvet Elvis  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:15:59pm

Official government sources are not reliable because they might be hiding something or something like that.

Until we know everything that is top secret we can’t trust them.

15 dragonath  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:16:07pm

OT, but I was reading some stuff about Turkey’s electoral system, which uses a threshold system similar to that used in other countries. The big flaw with Turkey’s system in particular is that, like Russia, that threshold is set artificially high (10%), and the allocated vote goes to the largest party- while taking away the representation of others.

“In 2002 elections, for instance, the AKP won 66 percent of the seats in the parliament with only 34 percent of the votes. All but the CHP failed the threshold and a majority of the seats would have gone to the smaller parties went to the AKP. Hard to believe as it may be, sixteen parties, which received over 45 percent of the total votes, were barred from the parliament because they each failed to reach the ten percent threshold, and over 14 million voters were disenfranchised.

I remember reading an op-ed written by Jonah Goldberg where he was advocating an electoral threshold system and specifically used Turkey as the “better” example. I wish I could find it.

16 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:16:33pm

re: #11 engineer cat

i tend to doubt that this flurry of claims, counter-claims, and ‘official statement’ bears a close resemblance to whatever might actually be going on

kabuki is par for the course in these matters

That’s the way it is when Congress is involved. Their first priority is to get attention saying the things their district wants to hear.

17 Occam's Guillotine  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:16:43pm

Is it any wonder that Congress has about the same approval ratings as, say, the Sinaloa drug cartel, the Westboro Baptist Church, or the genital herpes virus?

18 Kragar  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:18:03pm

The biggest scandal I’ve noticed it the utter and complete failure of the tech media to get the facts about the story straight and out to the public.

19 Velvet Elvis  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:20:31pm

re: #18 Kragar

The biggest scandal I’ve noticed it the utter and complete failure of the tech media to get the facts about the story straight and out to the public.

The ones that aren’t cyber-libertarians have a ton of them in their audience and will get flamed to hell in the comments if they try and come out with something sane.

20 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:25:12pm

re: #18 Kragar

The biggest scandal I’ve noticed it the utter and complete failure of the tech media to get the facts about the story straight and out to the public.

There are a few who understand the issues - Ed Bott @edbott is good at ZDNet, and Mark Jacquith @markjaquith wrote a great piece for medium.com.

21 Stanghazi  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:25:25pm

re: #12 darthstar

We’ve got a new tablecloth too…keeping with the fish theme.

You’re ready for some crabs now.

22 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:26:00pm

re: #19 Velvet Elvis

The ones that aren’t cyber-libertarians have a ton of them in their audience and will get flamed to hell in the comments if they try and come out with something sane.

Exactly. They don’t want to lose their audience so they say what the most vocal of their readers want to hear or they say nothing.

23 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:28:07pm

Cnet used to be known as a good source for tech news, but this piece by McCullagh did a lot to tarnish that reputation.

24 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:28:58pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

There are a few who understand the issues - Ed Bott @edbott is good at ZDNet, and Mark Jacquith @markjaquith wrote a great piece for medium.com.

@joshuafoust

25 Mattand  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:29:09pm

re: #19 Velvet Elvis

The ones that aren’t cyber-libertarians have a ton of them in their audience and will get flamed to hell in the comments if they try and come out with something sane.

When Leo LaPorte covered this on the This Week in Tech podcast (TWiT) last week he had on John C. Dvorak.

Dvoark, for those who don’t know, is a journalist who’s been covering technology for 30+ years. He’s most famous for writing a critical review of the first Mac, in which he notably was skeptical of the mouse as an interface device.

IMO, he’s a tech combination of Alex Jones and Jimmy the Greek: loudly decrying, with scant evidence anything he dislikes as a scam and some kind of plot, and mind-numbingly wrong with many of his predictions.

Surprisingly, Dvorak didn’t seem to be that worked up about the Snowden/PRISM mess. He’s not happy about any surveillance, but for the most part, he dialed down the conspiracy theories. Of course, he may have been saving that for his No Agenda podcast, which does with Alex Jones-wannabe Adam Curry.

I think in this case, some tech journalists got the story right: domestic spying is a problem that needs to be addressed, but the PRISM issue is being way overblown.

26 Sophist, D.D., DDS, DFH  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:30:02pm

re: #17 Occam’s Guillotine

Is it any wonder that Congress has about the same approval ratings as, say, the Sinaloa drug cartel, the Westboro Baptist Church, or the genital herpes virus?

Hey, at least the Sinaloa cartel reliably and consistently delivers its product. If it operated like congress it’d smuggle about a ton of drugs a year, and spend 90% of it’s time arguing about what color the packaging should be and in whose home town it should be manufactured.

27 erik_t  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:30:10pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

Cnet used to be known as a good source for tech news, but this piece by McCullagh did a lot to tarnish that reputation.

I haven’t bothered to go back since they forced out whatshisname for trying to give an award to a competitor of a parent company.

This isn’t their first recent journalistic-reputation own-goal.

28 Single-handed sailor  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:31:43pm

Nadler was talking about Patriot Act section 215, DNI is talking about FISA section 702. Has anybody compared these disparate texts?

29 nines09  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:34:14pm

To a layman such as I am on these convoluted brush fires fanned into forest fires, it seems the hole gets shallower the more is dug.

30 darthstar  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:35:28pm
31 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:36:47pm

I have the wee kittens on my lap and they have discovered the keyboard…
oh, joy…

32 darthstar  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:37:45pm

re: #21 Stanghazi

You’re ready for some crabs now.

Almost the end of crab season…just two weeks left! But I’ll pick some up off the boat tomorrow and surprise my wife with homemade french bread and cracked and shelled crab (it’ll be a late dinner as the Giants are in town)…and a bottle of pink wine.

It’s buy a whole salmon off the boats and bbq it season, actually…almost as good (if not better in some ways as I can have salmon sandwiches for lunch).

33 darthstar  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:38:56pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

I have the wee kittens on my lap and they have discovered the keyboard…
oh, joy…

Put a little oil from a can of tuna on the keyboard. It’ll keep them from playing with the keys…trust me, I wrote it on the internet.

34 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:39:30pm

Incarceration rate for Central African Republic is one of the lowest in the world. 19/100,000. Sounds great right? Well, here’s their human rights section at Wiki:

The 2009 Human Rights Report by the United States Department of State noted that, in general, the CAR’s human rights record remained poor. Concerns were expressed over numerous government abuses.[45] Freedom of speech is addressed in the country’s constitution, but there were incidents of government intimidation with the intent to limit media criticism.[45] A report by the International Research & Exchanges Board’s media sustainability index noted that “the country minimally met objectives, with segments of the legal system and government opposed to a free media system”.[45]

From 1972 to 1990, and in 2002 and 2003, the CAR was rated ‘Not Free’ by Freedom House. It was rated ‘Partly Free’ in 1991-2001 and from 2004 to the present.[46] On the United Nations Human Development Index, it ranks 179 out of 187 countries.[47]

According to the U.S. State Department, major human rights abuses occur in the country. These include: extrajudicial executions by security forces; the torture, beating and rape of suspects and prisoners; impunity, particularly among the armed forces; harsh and life-threatening conditions in prisons and detention centers; arbitrary arrest and detention, prolonged pretrial detention and denial of a fair trial; restrictions on freedom of movement; official corruption; and restrictions on workers’ rights. The State Department report also cites: widespread mob violence that often results in fatalities; the prevalence of female genital mutilation; discrimination against women and Pygmies; trafficking in persons; forced labor; and child labor. Freedom of movement is limited in the northern part of the country “because of actions by state security forces, armed bandits, and other nonstate armed entities” and due to fighting between government and anti-government forces, many persons have been internally displaced.

35 erik_t  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:39:30pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

I have the wee kittens on my lap and they have discovered the keyboard…
oh, joy…

You misspelled oikjhjcvdrtkjuygfcxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

36 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:42:15pm
37 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:43:00pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

Now you’ve done it! I can’t be silly anymore. //

38 abolitionist  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:43:07pm

re: #18 Kragar

The biggest scandal I’ve noticed it the utter and complete failure of the tech media to get the facts about the story straight and out to the public.

Some decent coverage by Steve Gibson:
SecurityNow #408: The State of Surveillance
He’s been mostly out of the news loop in recent weeks, concentrating on a project. Toots his own horn a bit (entitled to, perhaps), and mostly sticks to the tech issues involved.

Bruce Schneier has been covering the story too, but isn’t avoiding political/social aspects; calls Snowden a hero.

39 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:46:21pm

re: #37 Gus

Kudos well-deserved.

40 Mattand  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:47:30pm

re: #38 abolitionist

Some decent coverage by Steve Gibson:
SecurityNow #408: The State of Surveillance
He’s been mostly out of the news loop in recent weeks, concentrating on a project. Toots his own horn a bit (entitled to, perhaps), and mostly sticks to the tech issues involved.

Bruce Schneier has been covering the story too, but isn’t avoiding political/social aspects; calls Snowden a hero.

Gibson can be a little on the whacky side. He once accused Microsoft of putting a backdoor into a security bug (the WMF metadata issue, IIRC).

41 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:48:57pm

Glenn Greenwald loses another progressive.

Pretty soon he’s going be wearing a sandwich board on Copacabana saying “The End Is Nigh”.

42 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:49:22pm
43 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:51:07pm

I have no idea about that whole February thing. It hasn’t been proven. But hey, people that say “The Most Brutal, Sprawling Prison State on Earth” are smart.

44 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:52:57pm

re: #37 Gus

Now you’ve done it! I can’t be silly anymore. //

Silliness is always good. In my book, anyway.

45 Targetpractice  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:53:21pm

re: #42 Gus

Prove it, Glenn. You have no credibility whatsoever.

46 Occam's Guillotine  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:55:04pm

re: #26 Sophist, D.D., DDS, DFH

Hey, at least the Sinaloa cartel reliably and consistently delivers its product. If it operated like congress it’d smuggle about a ton of drugs a year, and spend 90% of it’s time arguing about what color the packaging should be and in whose home town it should be manufactured.

I should probably withdraw that part then. I also don’t want the cartel angry with me for daring to equate them with something so evil, uncouth, and incompetent as the US Congress.

47 Amory Blaine  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:55:38pm

The sandwich board is in this season. Very hip.

48 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:56:27pm

I don’t think there’s much to the February thing, to be honest. I’m starting to think Greenwald was played from the beginning.

49 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:56:39pm

re: #46 Occam’s Guillotine

I should probably withdraw that part then. I also don’t want the cartel angry with me for daring to equate them with something so evil, uncouth, and incompetent as the US Congress.

Even an illegal business has to actual do its work. To absolutely FAIL by the numbers takes government.

50 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:59:07pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

I don’t think there’s much to the February thing, to be honest. I’m starting to think Greenwald was played from the beginning.

If no one has any proof it’s a conspiracy theory.

51 abolitionist  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:59:39pm

re: #40 Mattand

Gibson can be a little on the whacky side. He once accused Microsoft of putting a backdoor into a security bug (the WMF metadata issue, IIRC).

I’m aware. It was a kind of extended-functionality feature related to rendering of documents on printers etc, to allow sending custom status info back to the OS, during the rendering. It was an intentional design feature, but an insecure/buggy one.

52 erik_t  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 5:59:47pm

re: #49 Dark_Falcon

Even an illegal business has to actual do its work. To absolutely FAIL by the numbers takes government.

^ votes for most obstruction-heavy members of Congress in modern history, fails to see irony

53 Occam's Guillotine  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:01:47pm

The drug cartel and Westboro at least aren’t stealing on a grand scale, while Congress has been known to steal whole countries.

54 piratedan  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:02:07pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

How can you play GG, he’s obviously the smartest man in the room or the smartest man on whatever continent he trods on….He’s never been wrong about anything evah and that dos equis ad campaign, yup, based on his exploits //

55 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:03:22pm

re: #54 piratedan

How can you play GG, he’s obviously the smartest man in the room or the smartest man on whatever continent he trods on….He’s never been wrong about anything evah and that dos equis ad campaign, yup, based on his exploits //

And that’s exactly how you can play him.

56 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:04:14pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

And that’s exactly how you can play him.

Glenn Greenwald must have an IQ of at least 167.

57 darthstar  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:05:29pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

And that’s exactly how you can play him.

Ridicule…it’s not just a pretty word.

58 ProTARDISLiberal  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:05:45pm

Please let the Rumor be true, please let the rumor be true.

If you’re an old-school Doctor Who fan, at least, then this new rumor is just beyond thrilling. Rich Johnston at Bleeding Cool claims reliable sources (plural) tell him that a ton of missing Doctor Who stories have been found. Stories. Not episodes.

59 Stanghazi  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:08:21pm

No better movie. None. To Kill a Mockingbird.

60 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:10:19pm

re: #59 Stanghazi

I agree. Especially when Gregory Peck kills the rabid dog.

61 Stanghazi  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:10:52pm

re: #60 PhillyPretzel

I agree. Especially when Gregory Peck kills the rabid dog.

It’s on TCM now.

62 darthstar  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:11:46pm

Slow motion bullet impacts…the armor piercing ones are easy to spot.

Youtube Video

63 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:11:47pm

re: #61 Stanghazi

I do not have cable. I have broadcast and I am watching John Besh cook. :)

64 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:12:40pm

re: #49 Dark_Falcon

Even an illegal business has to actual do its work. To absolutely FAIL by the numbers takes government.

No, it takes people who work to make that a self fulfilling prophecy. When you don’t have Republican’s wooden shoes being shoved into the gears, government can work quite well. Ask Buzz Aldrin what he thinks of the Saturn V for example…

65 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:13:16pm

Hmmm. “The Most Brutal, Sprawling Prison State on Earth” = GULAG!!11ty

66 Stanghazi  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:15:30pm

re: #63 PhillyPretzel

I do not have cable. I have broadcast and I am watching John Besh cook. :)

Not bad on the eyes that guy.

67 abolitionist  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:16:14pm

re: #40 Mattand

Active-X and Open Sockets were also intentional. :)

68 engineer cat  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:20:58pm

re: #64 William Barnett-Lewis

No, it takes people who work to make that a self fulfilling prophecy. When you don’t have Republican’s wooden shoes being shoved into the gears, government can work quite well. Ask Buzz Aldrin what he thinks of the Saturn V for example…

and how and when will there ever be an end to it? the gop has mastered the art of rendering immobile the entire government of the united states, gerrymanded a substantial majority despite narrowly losing the overall vote, have discovered that they can fabricate shamelessly without suffering any consequences, and prospects for the midterms don’t look good

69 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:22:43pm

re: #52 erik_t

^ votes for most obstruction-heavy members of Congress in modern history, fails to see irony

I haven’t voted for any such person. The only person I’ve voted for who is in either house of Congress is Senator Mark Kirk, and he’s not an obstructionist.

70 erik_t  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:22:49pm

re: #68 engineer cat

and how and when will there ever be an end to it? the gop has mastered the art of rendering immobile the entire government of the united states, gerrymanded a substantial majority despite narrowly losing the overall vote, have discovered that they can fabricate shamelessly without suffering any consequences, and prospects for the midterms don’t look good

The Senate was once hopelessly gridlocked by a dreadful party that realized it was turning into a useless lump. Then that dreadful party turned into a useless lump and things got better. There was a Civil War mixed in there, though. Hopefully we can avoid that step.

71 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:25:09pm

re: #65 Gus

Hmmm. “The Most Brutal, Sprawling Prison State on Earth” = GULAG!!11ty

US population dwindles as terrorized citizens flee en masse to relatively utopian refugee havens such as North Korea, Syria, and Sudan.

72 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:27:22pm

Important news, just breaking:

73 jaunte  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:29:20pm

Aquabuddha vs. Metadaddy.

74 simoom  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:31:11pm

From ZDNET, c|net’s sister site:

zdnet.com

Summary: CORRECTED: The senator who allegedly said the U.S. National Security Agency can listen to phone calls of both U.S. residents and foreign nationals without a court order debunks the original report

Update at 2:50 p.m. ET on June 16: We’re pulling the plug on this story, following Rep. Nadler’s comments that debunk CNET’s story. In a statement to our sister site, Nadler said: “I am pleased that the administration has reiterated that, as I have always believed, the NSA cannot listen to the content of Americans’ phone calls without a specific warrant.” We’ve left the amended article (post the previous update, below) in tact for transparency, but corrected the headline.

75 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:33:39pm
76 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:33:57pm

re: #74 simoom

From ZDNET, c|net’s sister site:

zdnet.com

…Summary: CORRECTED: The senator representitive who allegedly said the U.S. National Security Agency can listen to phone calls of both U.S…

77 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:34:04pm

re: #74 simoom

Bam.

78 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:34:37pm

DERP

79 Kragar  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:34:43pm

re: #75 Vicious Babushka

I watched the Jack Reacher movie :(

Why would you do such a thing?

80 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:35:25pm

Plz retwt!

81 Targetpractice  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:35:50pm

re: #78 Vicious Babushka

DERP

So long as he’s not earning your support, Pam, whatever side he’s on can’t be that bad.

82 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:36:03pm

re: #80 Charles Johnson

Plz retwt!

Done.

83 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:37:45pm

re: #79 Kragar

Why would you do such a thing?

I liked the books.

GD OH GD OH GD WHY

Why couldn’t they cast John Cena, or The Rock? The movie would have kicked ass.

84 Targetpractice  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:38:06pm

re: #80 Charles Johnson

Plz retwt!

‘course, problem is that the claim is already out there. Like Greenwald’s BS, it doesn’t really matter if the original story has been shot to shit, people are taking it as the truth and not bothering to do any research of their own.

85 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:38:17pm

Also… this guy is one to follow.

@20committee

Professor, Naval War College; Chair, PfP Combating Terrorism Working Group; Senior Fellow, Boston University; former NSA & NAVSECGRU - talking intel & security

86 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:39:58pm

I thought, I thought, did they do some CGI to make him look big? NO! HE DIDN’T EVEN STAND ON A FUCKING BOX.

87 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:42:12pm


KABOOM!

88 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:42:34pm

re: #83 Vicious Babushka

I liked the books.

GD OH GD OH GD WHY

Why couldn’t they cast John Cena, or The Rock? The movie would have kicked ass.

Because they aren’t taken seriously enough as actors. They’re seen as wrestlers.

89 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:43:27pm
90 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:45:19pm

re: #88 Dark_Falcon

Because they aren’t taken seriously enough as actors. They’re seen as wrestlers.

That makes them more qualified to portray Jack Reacher than Tom Cruise. It ain’t fucking Shakespeare.

91 darthstar  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:51:58pm

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Unshaken Defiance
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Immigration: Focus LocallyIn these days of Trump and the Republicans attacking everything decent about America, it's too easy to focus on the immediate threat. Trump's Muslim band is back, but everyone is paying attention to the Republicans trying to steal our healthcare. ...
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‘Submit to Your Husbands’: Women Told to Endure Domestic Violence in the Name of God (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) The culprits were obvious: it was the menopause or the devil. Who else could be blamed, Peter screamed at his wife in nightly tirades, for her alleged insubordination, for her stupidity, her lack of sexual pliability, her refusal to ...
Birth Control Works
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West Virginia Families, Just Learning About Health-Care Access, Fear It Will Be Taken Away - Rewire In Vienna, West Virginia—just north of Parkersburg, along the Ohio River separating the two states—the only Planned Parenthood health center in the state sits among a scattering of gray and tan buildings beside the main road. A few days ...
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Trump Election Commissioner Used Dubious Data to Allege an “Alien Invasion” - Mother Jones Election officials and experts say there’s plenty of reason to doubt those claims.But they could still provide a blueprint for Trump’s commission, which has so far hinted at tighter restrictions on voting in the name of cracking down on ...
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Inside the Middle East’s First Rape & Domestic Violence Crisis Program For the last year and a half, there’s been a new sight in the Kingdom of Bahrain. Lodged into stacks of newspapers, stuck to mirrors in restaurant bathrooms, and pinned to grocery store notice boards are small, blue-and-white fliers ...
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