ZDNet “Pulls the Plug” on That Bogus CNET Story

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Tonight ZDNet, sister company of CNET, is “pulling the plug” on the bogus CNET report that the NSA can wiretap US citizens’ phones without a warrant: Congressman Denies Report Claiming NSA Can Listen to Calls Without Warrants | ZDNet.

Update at 2:50 p.m. ET on June 16: We’re pulling the plug on this story, following Rep. Nadler’s comments that debunk CNET’s story. In a statement to our sister site, Nadler said: “I am pleased that the administration has reiterated that, as I have always believed, the NSA cannot listen to the content of Americans’ phone calls without a specific warrant.” We’ve left the amended article (post the previous update, below) in tact for transparency, but corrected the headline.

UPDATE at 6/16/13 7:44:02 pm


Related:
CNET Says NSA ‘Admits’ Listening to US Phone Calls - but That’s Not What the Video Shows

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137 comments
1 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:52:04pm
2 Political Atheist  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:53:04pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Since you took the unjust heat, why not? Facts matter.

3 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:53:50pm

Hate to go OT so soon but I can resist.

4 simoom  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 6:54:12pm

Reuter’s Shafer and WaPo’s Gellman:

5 Kragar  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:00:47pm

re: #3 Gus

Hate to go OT so soon but I can resist.

Why should I trust the Centers of Disease Control when I could listen to the guy who starred in Deuce Bigelow?

6 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:01:20pm

re: #3 Gus

Hate to go OT so soon but I can resist.

Youtube Video

7 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:02:38pm

I don’t know WTF this is but IT SUCKS

8 RinaX  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:02:59pm

Charles, I mainly lurk on your blog, but I had to poke my head out and tell you just how much I appreciate all the work you did to confront all of the misinformation and, quite frankly, outright lies being pushed by various parties. It’s even more appreciated knowing that you have very real and serious reservations on what the Patriot Act actually allows the NSA to do.

9 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:04:35pm
10 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:08:04pm

re: #7 Vicious Babushka

Not even gonna look.

11 simoom  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:08:22pm

Good, it seems to be spreading:

12 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:08:53pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

Not even gonna look.

Sucks even harder than Tom Cruise as Jack Reacher.

13 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:11:29pm

re: #7 Vicious Babushka

I don’t know WTF this is but IT SUCKS

Well, now you can say that both the ACLU and Glenn Greenwald have defended neo-Nazis.

14 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:12:24pm

re: #13 Gus

Well, now you can say that both the ACLU and Glenn Greenwald have defended neo-Nazis.

At least the ACLU was principled.
Greenwald? Lol.

15 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:13:13pm

re: #13 Gus

Well, now you can say that both the ACLU and Glenn Greenwald have defended neo-Nazis.

And WTF is this Juice Rap News? No Juice had any part in the making of this lame stupid video, not even Sarah Silverman.

16 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:14:45pm

re: #15 Vicious Babushka

And WTF is this Juice Rap News? No Juice had any part in the making of this lame stupid video, not even Sarah Silverman.

Ah, didn’t notice that. Never heard of him.

17 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:14:48pm

I would totally love to see Mona wipe the floor with Pam.

18 ProTARDISLiberal  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:15:03pm

Whelp, I don’t know if it was mentioned before, but the Prime Minister of the Czech Republic has resigned.

Bad weekend here.

19 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:15:35pm

re: #16 Gus

Ah, didn’t notice that. Never heard of him.

Just some lame white boy.

20 simoom  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:15:44pm


Is it really? Their BS story got them a drudge link, 10’s of thousands of social media hits, front page on reddit, etc.

21 efuseakay  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:16:43pm

re: #3 Gus

Hate to go OT so soon but I can resist.

Rob Schneider is not an actor. Don’t poison your brain!

22 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:16:44pm

re: #19 Vicious Babushka

Just some lame white boy.

Also a John Pilger fan.

23 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:18:15pm
24 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:18:32pm

re: #21 efuseakay

Rob Schneider is not an actor. Don’t poison your brain!

Rob Schneider is the Da Derp Dee Derp Da Teetley Derpee Derpee Dumb

Youtube Video

25 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:20:10pm

Rob Schneider is…
A Carrot!

26 AntonSirius  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:20:50pm

So when it comes to journalistic integrity, ZDNet >>>> The Guardian. Sad.

27 Lidane  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:21:44pm

re: #5 Kragar

Why should I trust the Centers of Disease Control when I could listen to the guy who starred in Deuce Bigelow?

Haha. I just tweeted him saying almost the same thing.

28 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:22:09pm

re: #22 Gus

Also a John Pilger fan.

So “Juice Rap News” is actually Teh Anti-Juice.

29 simoom  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:23:35pm

Of course these geniuses leapt on board, too:

30 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:24:57pm

re: #3 Gus

Hate to go OT so soon but I can resist.

Were I on twitter I probably couldn’t resist asking him, “Are you really that Stupid or do you just plays the part of Stupid on twitter?”

31 Ming  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:25:15pm

I checked the ZDNet story and sure enough, as quoted in the LGF post, they write the single word “intact” as two words: “in tact”.

It’s bad enough that “journalists” make stuff up, but apparently ZDNet can’t even spell!

32 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:25:31pm

re: #28 Vicious Babushka

So “Juice Rap News” is actually Teh Anti-Juice.

Maybe so. I see Pilger and think TEH JUICE!

33 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:25:33pm

re: #24 Vicious Babushka

Rob Schneider is the Da Derp Dee Derp Da Teetley Derpee Derpee Dumb

[Embedded content]

A brilliant takedown by Parker and Stone.

34 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:27:20pm
35 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:27:22pm

re: #21 efuseakay

Rob Schneider is not an actor. Don’t poison your brain!

Tweeted earlier: “Turns out that Rob Schneider is not really an actor but just plays himself in his movies.”

36 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:28:57pm
37 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:30:25pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

Next up: Claims that the ‘expose’ is not in fact dead, but rather it is “pining for the fiords.”

//

38 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:30:57pm
39 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:33:32pm

re: #38 Charles Johnson

40 simoom  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:33:50pm

Mother Jones editor:

41 ProTARDISLiberal  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:36:31pm

re: #39 Gus

Unfortunately, the comments for that article are just stupid.

The first comment was a Godwin Breach for heaven’s sake.

42 simoom  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:37:28pm
43 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:38:25pm

Now that the whole country seems to have become a collective conspiracy theorist, please keep in mind the following observation I have made about conspiracy theorists:

Once you have emotionally invested in a conspiracy theory, there is no outside influence that can change your mind. Your belief system is a closed, self-sustaining feedback loop. If you have convinced yourself that The Bad Guys (the government, the CIA, the Jews, the Freemasons, the Illuminati, whatever) are perpetuating an omnipotent, omniscient conspiracy of malevolence, any evidence that is presented to the contrary will necessarily be met with a far greater degree of skepticism than was wielded against the original conspiracy theory claim in the first place.

Information that might discredit or cast aspersions on the asparagus of a “whistleblower”? Well obviously, that’s a smear campaign.

Physical evidence that contradicts the alternate universe version? Obviously planted!

Right now, there is literally NOTHING the NSA, the Obama administration, or anyone from any branch of government can do or say to change the mind of anyone who has bought into Glenn Greenwald’s narrative. It’s easy to see the US as some omniscient Big Brother state. Then just add in your favorite conspiracy… feds mysteriously buying up all the ammo, etc.

At one time, I was a hardcore believer in JFK assassination conspiracy theories. Living in and around Dallas, I was able to get chin-deep into that subculture. I was a slightly less vehement believer in various conspiracy theories involving UFOs. Nobody could have convinced me that I was wrong about all the weird things I believed and/or suspected. But eventually, I changed my mind.

Note that my change of heart was probably because I was spritzed by the Pfizer Quietus Sheeple Retardant chemtrails, etc…////

44 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:38:39pm

re: #41 ProTARDISLiberal

Unfortunately, the comments for that article are just stupid.

The first comment was a Godwin Breach for heaven’s sake.

Stalin and Mao would be green with envy

if they knew that the US had *successfully* adopted their most authoritarian and repressive tactics. The only things we are missing are secret courts and gulags, oh wait …

45 Belafon  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:39:35pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

According to the article you linked to, they left it up because it was there. You can’t really delete history anyway.

46 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:40:27pm
47 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:40:28pm

re: #45 Belafon

According to the article you linked to, they left it up because it was there. You can’t really delete history anyway.

They didn’t even put a byline mentioning pulling the plug on it.
Weaksauce.

48 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:40:53pm

So he finally did get a Drudge link.

49 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:44:21pm

re: #41 ProTARDISLiberal

Unfortunately, the comments for that article are just stupid.

The first comment was a Godwin Breach for heaven’s sake.

Technically, no. Godwin’s law applies to Hitler and the Nazis, so technically a “Stalin and Mao” comment isn’t a violation. Still full of crap, though.

/Rules lawyer

50 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:46:52pm

re: #46 Gus

“[Special thanks again to Charles Johnson at LGF.]”

51 ProTARDISLiberal  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:46:57pm

re: #49 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, for some reason I switched Hitler in for Mao. Not sure how that happened.

To be fair, they were all horrific mass murderers. And I guarantee a Godwin did occur in a comment later on.

52 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:49:22pm

re: #51 ProTARDISLiberal

Yeah, for some reason I switched Hitler in for Mao. Not sure how that happened.

To be fair, they were all horrific mass murderers. And I guarantee a Godwin did occur in a comment later on.

Only ten comments so far, but I’m sure you’re right: Someone in that comment thread will ‘play the Hitler Card’.

53 Occam's Guillotine  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:55:56pm

The tentacles of the NSA are everywhere. Another voice of truth silenced, just as with Breitbart, JFK, and William McKinley.

54 darthstar  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:57:34pm

Right now, someone at CNET is suffering from a serious case of butt-pucker as Monday morning looms ever closer.

55 Targetpractice  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 7:59:57pm

Seriously, when your business model is built around bringing in as many clicks as possible, behavior like this is pretty much inevitable. Put the most evocative shit in the first 2-3 paragraphs, which most people are only going to read up to, and then watch the fireworks fly.

56 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:00:09pm

Update on my evil-ness:

57 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:01:05pm

re: #56 Charles Johnson

Update on my evil-ness:

Wut?

58 Targetpractice  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:01:34pm

re: #56 Charles Johnson

Update on my evil-ness:

*Kneels, head bowed* What is thy bidding, my master?

//

59 AntonSirius  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:01:46pm

re: #52 Dark_Falcon

Only ten comments so far, but I’m sure you’re right: Someone in that comment thread will ‘play the Hitler Card’.

The Hitler Card

60 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:02:12pm

Holy crap. Brad Friedman has been Tweeting Charles almost all day.

61 AntonSirius  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:03:14pm

I was looking for the Evil Baby Orphanage Hitler card, but that will have to do.

62 darthstar  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:06:02pm

Guy points gun at his daughter, kills her. Just joshing, after all. Stupid fucker.

63 Lancelot Link  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:08:05pm
Stalin and Mao

You can’t really use China and Russia as your markers of evil in defense of someone sucking up to Russia and China.

64 Kragar  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:09:00pm

re: #56 Charles Johnson

Update on my evil-ness:

E-veel? Like the Frew-eets of thee Deveel?

65 Targetpractice  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:09:16pm

re: #62 darthstar

Guy points gun at his daughter, kills her. Just joshing, after all. Stupid fucker.

God, what a fucked up culture these people live in.

66 Kragar  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:12:43pm

re: #62 darthstar

Guy points gun at his daughter, kills her. Just joshing, after all. Stupid fucker.

These things happen.
///

In a fucked up bullshit world

67 Belafon  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:15:59pm

If you want to have a reason to reach through the internet and strangle some people, check out the comments on my DK post on this and the statement from the ODNI. I posted them, and basically said we should be questioning our sources.

68 Belafon  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:18:22pm

re: #47 Varek Raith
Not disagreeing, it’s just what they said.

69 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:18:54pm
70 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:19:47pm

From a guy that has a following which includes a lot of doxers and swatters.

71 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:19:58pm

From hackers.

72 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:22:22pm
73 earthanimal  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:24:13pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Humble-brag: I was right.

Except, of course, regarding your claim that Nadler’s question pertained only to metadata and not content. On that point, Nadler’s clarification today confirms that you were wrong. Why you went to such lengths to push that narrative, I don’t even understand.

74 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:26:15pm

re: #73 earthanimal

Except, of course, regarding your claim that Nadler’s question pertained only to metadata and not content. On that point, Nadler’s clarification today confirms that you were wrong. Why you went to such lengths to push that narrative, I don’t even understand.

Welcome back Single Issue Earthanimal™

75 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:27:00pm

Libertarians say the darnedest things.

76 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:27:39pm

re: #75 Charles Johnson

Libertarians say the darnedest things.

In Optima font.

77 jaunte  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:28:37pm

re: #76 Gus

Why u no liek humanist sans?

78 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:28:47pm

re: #60 Gus

Holy crap. Brad Friedman has been Tweeting Charles almost all day.

Pretty much. And getting increasingly angry and incoherent.

79 Lidane  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:29:33pm

re: #75 Charles Johnson

Libertarians say the darnedest things.

80 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:29:49pm

He REALLY wanted that story to be true.

It would have validated everything Glenn Greenwald said. Why can’t it be true?

Life is just not fair.

81 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:30:18pm

re: #74 Gus

Welcome back Single Issue EarthanimalTM

It’s time for that lame act of tonight’s described by Freetoken as “The Dance of the Paulian Troll.”

82 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:30:33pm

And if you don’t enable my fantasy, you’re evil.

83 earthanimal  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:31:30pm

re: #75 Charles Johnson

Libertarians say the darnedest things.

Who’s a libertarian? Anyone who calls out obvious errors in your reporting?

84 Targetpractice  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:31:49pm

re: #80 Charles Johnson

He REALLY wanted that story to be true.

It would have validated everything Glenn Greenwald said. Why can’t it be true?

Life is just not fair.

Meanwhile, none of Greenwald’s supporters seem to wonder when he’s going to start publishing those stories he promised a week ago when telling Clapper to “save the melodrama.”

85 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:33:21pm

re: #78 Charles Johnson

Pretty much. And getting increasingly angry and incoherent.

Yeah, I dived into it last night. Not interested in THEIR cat fight. If you knows what I mean.

86 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:33:35pm

I don’t do giant puppet people.

87 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:33:42pm

They drive me crazy.

88 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:33:54pm

re: #83 earthanimal

Who’s a libertarian? Anyone who calls out obvious errors in your reporting?

Why do you assume I was talking about you?

89 jaunte  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:34:39pm

An enormous structure to destroy privacy and anonymity around the world,
with frickin’ laser beams attached to its head.

90 Targetpractice  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:38:50pm

Greenwald’s been sandbagging all week, asserting he’s not walking back his story while the Guardian quietly revises without acknowledgment of doing so and contends that he’s actually so busy with the next series of stories that he can’t be bothered to comment other than to say that he still believes the “real story” is a perceived disconnect between what 4 slides out of 41 say and what the companies named say.

This is unlike any “leak” story I’ve ever heard, where the leaker hauled ass out of the country and the reporter he went to has spent more time on Twitter insulting his critics than publishing the “leaks.”

91 earthanimal  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:39:13pm

re: #88 Charles Johnson

Why do you assume I was talking about you?

My mistake, then.

See how easy that is?

92 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:40:31pm
93 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:41:03pm

Very angry bogus report was bogus. Must attack those who pointed it out.

94 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:41:03pm

With a long mustache and top hat.

95 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:46:08pm

Just think how wonderful everything would have been if McCullagh’s report was true. The US government eavesdropping without warrants on every American citizen. The victimhood would have been glorious.

How dare LGF take that wonderful moment away.

96 Kragar  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:47:02pm
97 Occam's Guillotine  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:47:39pm

The Department of Labor is about to bring the hammer down on a loudly “Christian” local business that has been refusing to pay its employees overtime. They had been using some kind of gobbledygook excuse to their employees but the DoL investigators aren’t buying it. The company reportedly owes something like a hundred grand in back pay.
This is the kind of “intrusion” that would come to a stop if glibertarians and other free market absolutists had their way about the federal government.

98 Kragar  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:48:34pm

re: #95 Charles Johnson

Just think how wonderful everything would have been if McCullagh’s report was true. The US government eavesdropping without warrants on every American citizen. The victimhood would have been glorious.

How dare LGF take that wonderful moment away.

How exactly does one hire the manpower to listen to every American at the same time? Wouldn’t you end up with some NSA agents whose job was to listen to NSA agents who were listening to NSA agents who were listening to…

99 Kragar  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:49:20pm

Glen Greenwald: Mountebank

100 Targetpractice  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:49:28pm

re: #95 Charles Johnson

Just think how wonderful everything would have been if McCullagh’s report was true. The US government eavesdropping without warrants on every American citizen. The victimhood would have been glorious.

How dare LGF take that wonderful moment away.

It was the “smoking gun” they were hoping for, the NSA “admitting” that he didn’t think they needed no stinking warrants to listen in people’s calls. Snowden/Greenwald fanboys could cease chipping away at the credibility of the FISA court and rejoice because they’d been vindicated!

And all of it’s been lost now…like tears in rain…

101 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:49:55pm

re: #98 Kragar

How exactly does one hire the manpower to listen to every American at the same time? Wouldn’t you end up with some NSA agents whose job was to listen to NSA agents who were listening to NSA agents who were listening to…

These are mere details! The truthiness is what truthily matters!

102 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:50:20pm

re: #96 Kragar

Image: mountebank-large.jpg?fdda4ea33dff4a642cffefb9a9347de0343cb0bc

We could play Socratic bingo all day. Bwahaha!

103 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:55:03pm

I think it’s funny. The heightened state of hysteria.

104 Kragar  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:55:06pm

re: #100 Targetpractice

And all of it’s been lost now…like tears in rain…

Fiery the angels fell. Deep thunder rolled around their shoulders…

105 jaunte  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:57:14pm

re: #100 Targetpractice

And all of it’s been lost now…like tears in rain…

An enormous structure to destroy privacy and anonymity around the world,
glittering in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate.

106 Ming  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:57:48pm

re: #31 Ming

Now, in the ZDNet retraction, “intact” is written correctly, as a single word.

107 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:59:08pm

re: #106 Ming

Now, in the ZDNet retraction, “intact” is written correctly, as a single word.

Oh, so they’re right there, still editing.

This charade is just pathetic.

108 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 8:59:18pm
109 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 9:05:15pm

re: #81 Dark_Falcon

It’s time for that lame act of tonight’s described by Freetoken as “The Dance of the Paulian Troll.”

I finally found FT’s complete post that’s from, or at least I found where I’d copied it:

Act I: Overture, featuring Righteous Indignation.

Act II: Dance of the Paulian Troll

i. Flounceoff in 11/8
ii. The Wielding of the Stick (solo by Mr. S. Beaumont)

INTERMISSION and snacks

Act III: Regaining the Ship

Act IV: There’s Killgore……GET HIM!

curtain

110 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 9:06:51pm
111 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 9:20:28pm
112 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 9:33:23pm


POW!

113 abolitionist  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 9:33:24pm

re: #103 Gus

I think it’s funny. The heightened state of hysteria.

Youtube Video

Hilarity ensues. /

114 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 9:35:26pm

Goodnight, all.

115 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 9:36:52pm

re: #114 Dark_Falcon

Goodnight, all.

Leave now before you die!

116 Gus  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 9:43:04pm

Fail.

117 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 9:45:49pm

re: #115 Gus

Leave now before you die!

Or the Giraffe gets you!
BWAHAHA!

118 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 9:51:15pm

Tempers are fraying.

119 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 9:53:41pm
120 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 9:55:00pm

re: #119 Charles Johnson

LOL! How about telling the truth?
He’s certainly up reading his feed…
and getting pissy!

121 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 9:55:02pm
122 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 9:55:55pm

re: #121 Charles Johnson

Pissy indeed!

123 danhenry1  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 9:56:54pm

They have an agenda, or did.

124 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 10:00:06pm

Wow. Amazing reaction there.

125 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 10:00:16pm
126 abolitionist  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 10:04:05pm

re: #121 Charles Johnson

I hope you know who you’re sparring with.
Why Privacy Matters
Cory Doctorow: The coming war on general computation [28C3]

127 Minor_L  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 10:04:56pm

re: #78 Charles Johnson

You know you’ve won when he starts with the childish insults, calling people “sweetheart,” etc.

128 piratedan  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 10:08:40pm

inaccurate stories can be published and left standing for all to see for as long as needs be, debunking of said story with data invalidating its main tenets, hey, what’s the rush here, some people have to sleep y’know.

Easy to see why the CNET and the latest GG expose showed up Friday night, everyone else gets to go home and have a weekend and we all go and read our favorite haunts and in the interim they get to set the narrative for Monday morning.

They may be wrong, but they’re well acquainted with how the system works.

129 Weet  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 10:11:59pm

Oh look, Beijing is planning to keep Snowden.
scmp.com

A state-backed Chinese newspaper on Monday said extraditing former spy Edward Snowden to the United States would be a “betrayal” of his trust and a “face-losing outcome” for Beijing.

It’s on the front page.

130 simoom  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 10:15:23pm

re: #28 Vicious Babushka

Just another baseless & stupid cash-in-on-the-hysteria article, but I thought you might find part of it amusing:

au.businessinsider.com

This is an (admittedly huge) list of words that supposedly cause the NSA to flag you as a potential terrorist if you over-use them in an email.

We found this on Reddit, where James Bamford, a veteran reporter with 30 years experience covering the NSA, is answering questions from the community. This list comes from Reddit user GloriousDawn, who found it on Attrition.org, a site that very closely follows the security industry.

… passwd, 2600 Magazine, Competitor, EO, Chan, Alouette, executive, Event Security …

That’s somewhere in the middle of their long list of words.

131 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 10:22:00pm
132 Weet  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 10:28:20pm

The 11:55 update on that ZDNET article reads like word salad CT, to me.

zdnet.com

133 abolitionist  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 10:45:36pm

re: #131 Charles Johnson

xkcd.com

Caped crusaders need their sleep, too.

134 Cheechako  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 11:03:50pm

I wonder if there’s been an increase in the sales of “toss away” cell phones like those from TracPhone or Net 10? Using such a phone would be a great way to hide your calls from the evil gov’ment.

135 Weet  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 11:04:16pm

re: #132 Weet

Sorry, bad link.

tinyurl.com

136 abolitionist  Sun, Jun 16, 2013 11:16:41pm

re: #134 Cheechako

I wonder if there’s been an increase in the sales of “toss away” cell phones like those from TracPhone or Net 10? Using such a phone would be a great way to hide your calls from the evil gov’ment.

If any one of your “calling circle” has been targeted for special attention, for whatever reason, and you use such an anonymized phone to call one or more of them, or they you, one or more times, your approximate location could become known. Or rather, the approximate location of that phone.

137 Skip Intro  Mon, Jun 17, 2013 11:57:18am

re: #110 Charles Johnson

Actually, CBS makes CNET’s editorial decisions. That’s why after CBS made CNET take back its award for DISH’s Hopper, CNET became, and remains a joke.

I admit that I didn’t know that ZDNet (also owned by CBS) was still in business.


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