1 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jun 18, 2013 10:18:05pm

The new GOP mainstream is weapons-grade stupid. Do not fool yourself into thnking it is just electioneering on anyone’s part: these people not only believe in it, they are willing to impose it on all of us, cost what it may.

2 Occam's Guillotine  Tue, Jun 18, 2013 10:19:37pm

Okay, wingnuts, I have it on pretty good authority that Egypt and Israel had locusts before Obama was born.

3 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 18, 2013 10:20:20pm

Read earlier today about how young GOP activists want to make abortion be seen as “funny” as a way of making headway with predominately pro-choice millenials. The party and ideology just don’t get it. I suspect they never will or it will take a landslide of 1984/1972/1964 proportions for them to even consider changing their stripes.

4 Occam's Guillotine  Tue, Jun 18, 2013 10:28:13pm

The GOP actually reminds me a lot of Lord of the Flies, not the mythical Beelzebub, but the famous Golding novel.

5 abolitionist  Tue, Jun 18, 2013 10:32:28pm

Rachel Maddow - Michael Hastings, Fearless

MSNBC Video

6 engineer cat  Tue, Jun 18, 2013 10:34:20pm

ignatz is a fruitcat

he especially likes strawberries and cherries

7 Lidane  Tue, Jun 18, 2013 10:38:14pm

re: #3 HappyWarrior

I suspect they never will or it will take a landslide of 1984/1972/1964 proportions for them to even consider changing their stripes.

Pretty much this.

The ONLY thing that can save the Republican party and turn them into something that’s even remotely functional, intelligent, or living in the 21st Century is for them to nominate a True Believing, balls out nutter for POTUS then lose badly.

8 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 18, 2013 10:40:37pm

The GOP is gambling, with some measure of certainty, that a great showing next year is all that matters. And getting the base to the polls is what they’re focused on, that they can undo any advantage Democrats enjoy with anybody who isn’t an angry white male by convincing those guys to show up at the polls.

9 Lidane  Tue, Jun 18, 2013 10:42:34pm

re: #1 Sol Berdinowitz

The new GOP mainstream is weapons-grade stupid. Do not fool yourself into thnking it is just electioneering on anyone’s part: these people not only believe in it, they are willing to impose it on all of us, cost what it may.

Yes, this.

These people are not just posturing or bullshitting for votes. They MEAN it. They believe every crazy, crackpot idea they spew from their pie holes. If people bothered to read the GOP platforms they’d know the GOP run on this shit.

It’s all very, very real, and the people who insist on voting for anyone with an (R) after their name don’t get it. The power structure of the GOP really is that crazy. They really ARE that stupid and fanatical. As long as you keep voting for these idiots, nothing is going to change.

10 piratedan  Tue, Jun 18, 2013 10:48:56pm

Mythical campaign I’d love to see….

How many times have the R’s stated that their number one priority is jobs, jobs, jobs…

How many jobs bills did Republicans sponsor Johnny!!!!…. zero

How many abortion bills did they sponsor Johnny!!!!!! ten
How many repeals of the ACA Johnny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! six
How many debt ceiling showdowns did we have Johnny!!!!!!! ummm three?
How many kids and educations programs did they reduce funding to? seven?
How many bills have we seen to restore tax breaks for the wealthy? five?

something along these lines, short simple and sweet… then let them stand up in front of their constituents and speak. At the end of the ad, list each of the bills you cited and their votes.

You’re never gonna win any R votes, but you may wake up a few I’s to stop them from buying brand x

11 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 18, 2013 10:54:40pm

Thing about it is that the GOP the party that can’t think past the next election. All the damage done between now and next year to rile up the base is going to bite them in the ass when ‘16 comes and they’re trying to explain to moderate voters why banning abortion, repealing the ACA, telling immigrants to go fuck themselves, responding to the deaths of 22 school children by supporting the NRA over 90% of the country, and the litany of other bad decisions between now and then were good ones. Romney was already a bad candidate, but when you weighed him down with all the GOP’s accumulated baggage from ‘09 to ‘12, he never really had a chance.

12 Single-handed sailor  Tue, Jun 18, 2013 10:55:04pm

“Jobs continue to be our #1 concern!”

13 engineer cat  Tue, Jun 18, 2013 10:56:26pm

i worry about the 2014 midterms, although it’s hard to tell this far out what the atmosphere will be then

but repeatedly over the past 25 years angry wingnuts have come out in force for midterms under democratic presidents and voted in big majorities of morons into the congress, who are hard to get rid of, while democrats don’t get very involved and therefore let them do it

waiting on demographics to get rid of these destructive pests is too iffy and in any case will take a long time if it does happen

i wish there was some way to get democrats riled up and voting in 2014 so that we don’t face yet another shitstorm

14 engineer cat  Tue, Jun 18, 2013 10:56:44pm

re: #12 Single-handed sailor

“Jobs continue to be our #1 concern!”

their own

15 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 18, 2013 10:59:36pm

re: #13 engineer cat

i worry about the 2014 midterms, although it’s hard to tell this far out what the atmosphere will be then

but repeatedly over the past 25 years angry wingnuts have come out in force for midterms under democratic presidents and voted in big majorities of morons into the congress, who are hard to get rid of, while democrats don’t get very involved and therefore let them do it

waiting on demographics to get rid of these destructive pests is too iffy and in any case will take a long time if it does happen

i wish there was some way to get democrats riled up and voting in 2014 so that we don’t face yet another shitstorm

Way I look at it, the GOP has tried and failed over the past three elections to hold/take back the Senate and even in the worst case scenario they’re in no danger of doing more than take a couple vote majority. That happens, then we’re left with gridlock, but now the GOP speaks all its time passing bullshit bills in the House that Democrats end up filibustering in the Senate.

16 freetoken  Tue, Jun 18, 2013 11:00:50pm

re: #13 engineer cat

We face a reality where the populace is not cohered by old organizations - unions or party structure.

It’s not clear to me that the Democratic Party can overcome its haphazard nature of being a conglomeration of “We’re not Republicans”.

17 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Jun 18, 2013 11:03:24pm

re: #16 freetoken

Being “not” something is NEVER a winning strategy!

18 freetoken  Tue, Jun 18, 2013 11:06:47pm

re: #17 Dancing along the light of day

We must accept that a non-trivial portion of our nation is in full revanchist mode, believing that something important has been taken away from them, and are consumed with provincialism that is partly fundamentalist Protestantism and partly ethnic/identity warfare.

The 21st century is too scary for these people.

19 Kragar  Tue, Jun 18, 2013 11:11:52pm

Demons are the only logical explanation.
/

20 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Jun 18, 2013 11:20:35pm

I’ve found the antidote for the Respect and Obey Authority video.

Youtube Video

That’s right, three sixth graders just melted your fucking face off with pure, surgical grade METAL.

21 freetoken  Tue, Jun 18, 2013 11:24:51pm

And right on schedule, and copying some other state legislatures:

Idaho GOP seeks to halt cities’ anti-discrimination ordinances

[…]

On the other hand, Boise’s City Council president left no doubt how she felt about Idaho Republicans’ resolution encouraging legislators to do just that.

“It’s a sad thing, talking about institutionalizing discrimination,” Jordan said Tuesday. “It’s difficult enough that these protections don’t exist statewide, but an effort to actually take away protections that have been put in place in several cities already seems extremely ill-advised.”

On Saturday, the Idaho Republican State Central Committee passed a resolution recommending that legislators make unenforceable ordinances that expand Idaho’s existing anti-discrimination policy to protect sexual orientation.

Boise passed an ordinance in December that prohibits firing people, kicking them out of their homes and refusing to serve them in public places because of their sexual orientation or identity. At the time, Sandpoint was the only other city with a nondiscrimination ordinance on the books. Now there are six, with Coeur d’Alene, Ketchum, Moscow and Pocatello each passing ordinances. Idaho Falls is considering one.

[…]

Banning the firing of people, kicking them out of their homes and refusing to serve them in public places because of their sexual orientation or identity … oh, the horror of that.

22 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Jun 18, 2013 11:56:44pm

Oh God, is this for real?

A group of whistleblowers, including a number of aviation experts, have come forward in a new documentary to claim that the official explanation for the crash of TWA Flight 800 was wrong and a gas tank explosion did not bring down the flight off the coast of Long Island 17 years ago.

However, the six whistleblowers, all part of the original investigation team, stopped short of saying the plane was shot down.

”..This team of investigators who actually handled the wreckage and victims’ bodies, prove that the officially proposed fuel-air explosion did not cause the crash,” reads a statement by the producers of the film, which will debut on cable network EPIX next month. “They also provide radar and forensic evidence proving that one or more ordinance explosions outside the aircraft caused the crash.” However, the statement said they did not speculate about the source or sources of any ordinance explosions.

The whistleblower team, which includes investigators-at the time-from the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), TWA, and the Airline Pilots Association, have since retired from their positions. They claim that at the time, they were placed under a gag order by the NTSB, which they charged falsified the official conclusion of the cause of the crash. They indicated they would elaborate more in a Wednesday media briefing.

So they’re saying it was shot down, just not by whom. If this isn’t a hoax and there really are six actual experts who were on the panel making the same claim the anti government conspiracy theorists are going to have a field day.

23 Lancelot Link  Tue, Jun 18, 2013 11:58:19pm

I think the Republicans’ best strategy for winning the midterms would be to lower the Democratic turnout by getting a few earnest young Civil-Libertarian fauxgressives to try to divide the left from the Democratic Party with ridiculously overwrought “Obama=Bush” stories and….Hey, wait a minute!

24 dragonath  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:10:24am

re: #23 Lancelot Link

I was wondering that myself. The whole Paulish libertarianism thing usually hits something of a bump when it’s confronted by a guy like Rick “ban everything” Scott.

25 Targetpractice  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:13:57am

Oh good lord, a Lego movie? It is impossible for Hollywood to leave my childhood alone for one stinking year?!

26 freetoken  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:19:00am

re: #22 goddamnedfrank

All I got is … that link is a Faux News story.

27 freetoken  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:22:12am

The CNN version:

cnn.com

[…]

The co-producer of the film, Tom Stalcup, is co-founder of the Flight 800 Independent Researchers Organization and has been a longtime and passionate critic of the official investigation.


[…]

28 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:31:28am

re: #26 freetoken

All I got is … that link is a Faux News story.

Here’s a CNN version of the story.

From the EPIX press release on Bloomberg:

Flight 800: A 14-Year Investigation Cracks the Case - Premiering in September
It was called “the largest aviation investigation in US and world history” by
the man who led it in 1996. But it was also the most controversial. Now, a
team of insiders from that investigation come forward in this feature
documentary to blow the lid off a multi-agency cover-up of what really
happened to TWA Flight 800. The team was brought together by an
extraordinarily persistent scientist 20 years their junior who himself spent
14 years investigating the crash. A riveting story of intense personal
journeys and a grand-scale exposé with breathtaking implications.

Tomorrow’s media briefing should shed more light on the situation and show if these six guys are legit or full of shit. Since they’re coming out in a cable channel documentary I remain highly skeptical at this point, but the story is in no way a figment of Fox’s imagination.

29 freetoken  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:41:22am

If you look up the “Flight 800 Independent Researchers Organization” you’ll find it associated with bevy of fringe individuals and sites, such as Cashill, NewsMax, and so forth.

FIRO’s TWA FLIGHT 800 LINKS page links to only seven sites:

WHAT REALLY HAPPENED … um… ok… next:

Ray Lahr’s site pushes… WND and Cashill… next:

Associated Retired Aviation Professionals , which is a fancy name but was created specifically for the TWA800 issue, for it’s Other Websites, lists… WND, Free Republic, “Jesus Saves”… and so forth… next:

TOM SHOEMAKER’S “TWA CASE FILES” … is no longer a valid site/URL… next:

The NTSB TWA800 exhibits page… which doesn’t support FIRO’s claims but I guess they had to put it in there. Next:

The Newsday special section on TWA800… which is no longer a valid link. Next and finally:

Rodney Stitche’s site, which is a bad link, but still exists, which is a site dedicated to the idea that the US government has a long list of coverups over airline disasters, including the “Lockerbie Hoax”, how 9/11 could have been prevented and how the government secretly killed the FBI guy who hid the evidence, etc.

Quite a group of friends FIRO and Tom Stalcup has there.

30 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:48:35am

re: #29 freetoken

True, the odds of these guys breaking a real story are thin verging on anorexic. I’m guessing the whole thing is going to come down to some severe selective editing of the six review panel member’s interviews and will be followed by a rash of denials and mutual recriminations.

I remember a few months ago when a bunch of people mistook a jet contrail for a submarine launched ICBM. People see what they want to see.

31 freetoken  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:48:58am

None other than Jack Cashill brings us this bracing report:

Silenced: Flight 800 and the subversion of justice, part 2

[…]

Dr. Tom Stalcup, a physicist and chair of FIRO, the Flight 800 Investigative Research Organization, argues the law of the conservation of energy. “The radar data shows that the plane didn’t slow down. If it didn’t slow down, it didn’t climb – if it didn’t climb, the witnesses didn’t see the plane climb, they saw something else.”

[…]

Physics!!

32 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:50:18am

Everyone knows the real reason why planes crash.

Demons.

33 freetoken  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:52:12am

re: #32 Kragar

Teh Ghey

34 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:53:48am

re: #33 freetoken

Teh Ghey

Ghey Demons are the absolute worst.

Yes, I’m looking at you Slaanesh.

35 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:00:08am

Man, now I want to watch Frailty again. Haven’t watched that movie in years.

36 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:25:19am

re: #3 HappyWarrior

Read earlier today about how young GOP activists want to make abortion be seen as “funny” as a way of making headway with predominately pro-choice millenials. The party and ideology just don’t get it. I suspect they never will or it will take a landslide of 1984/1972/1964 proportions for them to even consider changing their stripes.

I disagree. They’ll never change because that would entail admitting they are wrong.

And since they are to a man and woman, True Believers™, whether in Jesus Christ or capitalism or that weird agglomeration of the two, they cannot be wrong about anything ever.

The GOP is going the way of the Know Nothings and not even God can stop it. Although the GOP may be living examples of the saying, “Those whom the gods would destroy they first make mad.”

37 Timothy Watson  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:50:09am

Trick question: When in the United States Constitution does Congress have the power to regulate abortion?

38 abolitionist  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:52:54am

re: #37 Timothy Watson

Not yet.

39 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:54:55am

re: #20 goddamnedfrank

I’m not sure I’ve ever seen an African-American metal band before, of any age. These kids are really good, though the drummer needs to loosen up a bit.

40 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:04:02am

re: #39 wheat-dogghazi

I’m not sure I’ve ever seen an African-American metal band before, of any age. These kids are really good, though the drummer needs to loosen up a bit.

Body Count, Ice-T’s metal band.

41 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:06:37am

re: #31 freetoken

None other than Jack Cashill brings us this bracing report:

Silenced: Flight 800 and the subversion of justice, part 2

If the plane didn’t slow down, it didn’t climb.

Physics!!

A true rocket scientist. In other words, he’s saying climbing planes slow down. I recall from my flying lessons ages ago that increasing the airspeed increases lift, and the plane therefore gains altitude. Less throttle means lower altitude. You can control airspeed with flaps and the attitude of the plane, too.

42 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:07:57am

re: #40 Dr Lizardo

Ah, thanks.

43 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:15:05am

re: #42 wheat-dogghazi

They’re supposed to have a new album coming out sometime later this year, or perhaps next year, titled Manslaughter.

44 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:22:41am

re: #43 Dr Lizardo

They’re supposed to have a new album coming out sometime later this year, or perhaps next year, titled Manslaughter.

Will Ice-T lead the police investigation?

45 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:24:27am

re: #44 wheat-dogghazi

Will Ice-T lead the police investigation?

Do they do a cover of Tom Petty’s “I Won’t Back Down”?

46 Flounder  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:33:42am

With President Obama’s Berlin speech coming up, lets debate whether JFK referred to himself as a jelly donut!
I am on a diet again, I would so love a jelly donut right now.
Fun fact, I had a beloved beagle that I named donut.
Morning all!

47 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:44:28am

Good Morning Lizards!

Back from my trip to the Illinois “outback”. Four days with no internet spent in a rural location with a bunch of friends from various places. Eating, drinking, playing games, and just hanging out.

I got stuck there an extra day due to thunderstorms closing the St Louis airport and causing my flight to get cancelled. So I had to get a different flight yesterday morning (6am flight - be at airport at 5:15am). Got to St Louis with no problem, but weather delayed the flight into Philadelphia’s landing for about an hour - so I basically lost a day at work.

The cats got to interact with the sitter for an additional day as well. They’re starting to be more social with her, which is a good sign.

48 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:45:24am

re: #46 Flounder

No, he didn’t. The claim that he did is like saying someone saying in English “I’m a New Yorker” means that they’re the New Yorker magazine.

Short discussion.

49 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:10:03am

Hey Obdi, I finished reading all the Easy Rawlins books!

50 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:16:09am

re: #49 Vicious Babushka

It’s a nice arc, I think. His other ones are pretty sweet too but Easy is his best character, to me.

51 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:20:18am

re: #50 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

It’s a nice arc, I think. His other ones are pretty sweet too but Easy is his best character, to me.

“Blonde Faith” is meant to be the last book in the series.

It’s still possible for Easy to survive that drunk driving crash. I didn’t think he was the type to kill himself just because his girlfriend left him.

52 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:25:12am

re: #51 Vicious Babushka

Have you tried out Janwillem Lincoln van de Wetering?

53 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:27:45am

re: #52 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Have you tried out Janwillem Lincoln van de Wetering?

What is that?

54 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:35:57am

re: #53 Vicious Babushka

What is that?

A Dutch police writer I think you’d like a lot. Long series, too.

55 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:37:14am

re: #54 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

A Dutch police writer I think you’d like a lot. Long series, too.

I’ll have to look him up next time I’m at the library. I prefer American writers for procedurals, Zedushka loves British mystery writers.

56 darthstar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:40:56am
57 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:43:44am

re: #55 Vicious Babushka

I’ll have to look him up next time I’m at the library. I prefer American writers for procedurals, Zedushka loves British mystery writers.

His english— or the translator— is excellent and idiomatic, and he spends a lot of time on the cultural elements so they’re not so jarring as interesting.

The characters of his two main cops are awesome, too.

58 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:45:22am

re: #55 Vicious Babushka

I’ll have to look him up next time I’m at the library. I prefer American writers for procedurals, Zedushka loves British mystery writers.

Look into Donna Leon’s “Commissario Brunetti” series. She’s an American who has lived in Venice for the last 30 yrs. (Taught my kid at the Univ of Maryland extension near there.) Brunetti always solves the crime, rarely arrests anyone, but usually sees that justice is done.

59 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:46:15am

re: #58 Decatur Deb

If you haven’t checked de Wetering, do so. Great writer and great ethical sensibility.

60 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:50:18am

re: #59 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

If you haven’t checked de Wetering, do so. Great writer and great ethical sensibility.

Will check. Brunetti has only a nostalgic ethical sense—Republican Rome vs. modern Italy. He loves his wife (a communist contessa), kids and food. There is a companion Italian cookbook. I remember firing his pistol once, after drawing it for a nasty case. Her first book is the poisoning of the conductor at La Fenice opera house.

Phoenix!!!

61 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:51:46am

re: #60 Decatur Deb

My mom loves Brunetti. Or Brunetti’s writing, I should say.

62 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:54:52am

re: #61 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

My mom loves Brunetti. Or Brunetti’s writing, I should say.

Leon puts out one Brunetti like clockwork every Spring, about 15 of them now. She does non-fiction on Venice, food and Baroque opera in between.

63 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:02:29am

re: #13 engineer cat

i worry about the 2014 midterms, although it’s hard to tell this far out what the atmosphere will be then

but repeatedly over the past 25 years angry wingnuts have come out in force for midterms under democratic presidents and voted in big majorities of morons into the congress, who are hard to get rid of, while democrats don’t get very involved and therefore let them do it

waiting on demographics to get rid of these destructive pests is too iffy and in any case will take a long time if it does happen

i wish there was some way to get democrats riled up and voting in 2014 so that we don’t face yet another shitstorm

We’ll be involved this time—the last-ditch Alabama Dems I run with are totally pissed.

64 Joanne  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:09:06am

re: #1 Sol Berdinowitz

The new GOP mainstream is weapons-grade stupid. Do not fool yourself into thnking it is just electioneering on anyone’s part: these people not only believe in it, they are willing to impose it on all of us, cost what it may.

That’s the scariest part of all of this insanity.

65 piratedan  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:09:43am

re: #63 Decatur Deb

same here, been actually putting money and mouth in, phone banking and donating to candidates. Working for everyone on the slate, remembering that politicians are grown and nurtured instead of springing up ready made.

66 Joanne  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:11:12am

re: #10 piratedan

How many times have the R’s stated that their number one priority is jobs, jobs, jobs…

67 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:12:56am
68 Flounder  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:13:43am

Wacky dog-doos!
nypost.com

69 socrets  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:15:14am

re: #10 piratedan

Mythical campaign I’d love to see….

How many abortion bills did they sponsor Johnny!!!!!! ten
How many repeals of the ACA Johnny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! six
How many debt ceiling showdowns did we have Johnny!!!!!!! ummm three?
How many kids and educations programs did they reduce funding to? seven?
How many bills have we seen to restore tax breaks for the wealthy? five?

And counting…

70 Targetpractice  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:15:28am

re: #67 Vicious Babushka

When you have The Help buy your groceries and accountants tabulate your food costs as numbers on a page, the idea that food is “cheap” in America must seem an easy one to indulge in.

71 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:15:30am

re: #65 piratedan

same here, been actually putting money and mouth in, phone banking and donating to candidates. Working for everyone on the slate, remembering that politicians are grown and nurtured instead of springing up ready made.

I’m going to pound doors for a young black city-council candidate who is going to lose. (It’ll be good for his character). That’s just to lay the groundwork for 2014, when we have a chance to get rid of Martha Roby and Shadrack McGill. Will work out of state again in 2016.

72 makeitstop  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:18:07am

re: #39 wheat-dogghazi

I’m not sure I’ve ever seen an African-American metal band before, of any age. These kids are really good, though the drummer needs to loosen up a bit.

Living Colour, 24-7 Spyz, The Veldt.

Black Rock Coalition.

73 darthstar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:20:40am
74 Joanne  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:21:56am

re: #67 Vicious Babushka

Yeah, buddy! That $5.00 a day that SNAP provides totally allows them to live large!

75 kirkspencer  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:23:14am

re: #67 Vicious Babushka

Said it before, say it again, some people think we need sumptuary laws.

76 makeitstop  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:25:01am

Found on Facebook. At one time, Nuge stood with those he now hates.

Free John Sinclair!

77 darthstar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:25:01am

re: #68 Flounder

Wacky dog-doos!
nypost.com

Those are do’s, not doos…though I’m glad it wasn’t a collection of dog feces, as most of what the NY Post writes is.

78 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:25:06am

re: #75 kirkspencer

Said it before, say it again, some people think we need sumptuary laws.

FOOD STAMPS SHOULD ONLY BE USED TO BUY RICE, BEANS AND GRUEL!!11!! AND HALF A LOAF OF BREAD A DAY!!11!!

79 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:26:09am

AND ALSO A HALF GALLON OF HFCS, WON’T SOMEONE THINK OF TEH POOR FARMERS!!1111

80 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:26:12am

re: #73 darthstar

Speaking of Alabama idiots. Shame you can’t tweet our beloved senator’s full name:”Senator Jefferson Beauregard Sessions The Third”. Not enough characters left for a derpmessage.

81 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:27:08am

re: #80 Decatur Deb

Speaking of Alabama idiots. Shame you can’t tweet our beloved senator’s full name:”Senator Jefferson Beauregard Sessions The Third”. Not enough characters left for a derpmessage.

Wouldn’t the name have enough baggage with it now to be derp enough?

82 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:28:39am

re: #81 Feline Fearless Leader

Wouldn’t the name have enough baggage with it now to be derp enough?

It will if I can help it.

83 Bulworth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:29:27am

re: #73 darthstar

Smart. Brains. Morans.

84 piratedan  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:30:42am

re: #83 Bulworth

Smart. Brains. Morans.

but you can’t trust the CBO, all wingnuts know that, why they’re consistently anti-Republican in their non-partisanship!

85 Bulworth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:33:34am

Speaker Boner says he won’t bring an immigration bill from the Senate to a vote if most House members don’t believe it will “secure the border.”

Meanwhile, here is our House of People’s Deputies working to “secure the border.”

While the Senate was working to amend the bipartisan immigration bill on the floor, the House Judiciary Committee was busy late Tuesday night passing its piecemeal approach to immigration overhaul.

First step, making it a federal crime (misdemeanor) to be in the United States with undocumented status and repealing DACA (Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals), better known as the DREAM Act, that provides temporary status to people brought to the United States as children and were younger than 31 as of June 15, 2012.

Yeah, that’ll secure the border, alright.

86 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:35:29am

The idiotic meme that wingnuts are pushing now is

OBUMBAZ OVERSEAS TRAVEL VS. ARE CHILDRENZ WHITE HOUSE TOURS!!11!!

I don’t know they latched onto this lame talking point, as though there was a deliberate decision by the administration OH LET’S CANCEL THE PUBLIC TOURS TO PAY FOR ALL THE OVERSEAS TRIPS. Because they are totally unrelated to each other.

87 darthstar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:37:56am

The House hasn’t passed any laws under Boehner without Pelosi and the Democrats’ help. Every other piece of legislation is meaningless. 37 repeals of Obamacare? Worthless. Their latest abortion ban? Worthless. Meaningless. Not even symbolic.

The only thing Boehner can do, and has done, is allow the sequester. Congress holds the power of the purse. And beyond their ability to fuck over Americans, they have nothing if they don’t work with the Democrats.

Period.

88 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:38:19am

re: #86 Vicious Babushka

The idiotic meme that wingnuts are pushing now is

I don’t know they latched onto this lame talking point, as though there was a deliberate decision by the administration OH LET’S CANCEL THE PUBLIC TOURS TO PAY FOR ALL THE OVERSEAS TRIPS. Because they are totally unrelated to each other.

Cancelling the WH tours does exactly what was intended—it publicizes that sequestration has consequences. The TPGOP is helping every time they pull out that outrage meme.

89 mgardener  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:38:28am

If they say these things in public where they ought to be careful, what asinine things are they saying in private?

90 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:41:06am

“PRO LIFE”

91 Lidane  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:41:27am

re: #84 piratedan

but you can’t trust the CBO, all wingnuts know that, why they’re consistently anti-Republican in their non-partisanship!

Hilariously, all the nutters are having a fit of ZOMG RINO rage over this:

Norquist: CBO Report Shows That Immigration Is ‘Key To Economic Growth’

Anti-tax crusader Grover Norquist responded to the Congressional Budget Office’s Tuesday report that projected the Senate immigration reform bill would increase U.S. population by 10.4 million and would decrease federal budget deficits by $197 billion over the next ten years.

“Today’s CBO score is more evidence that immigration is key to economic growth,” Norquist said in a press release Tuesday afternoon. “Immigration reform will jumpstart America’s economy and reduce our national debt. And because CBO employed the type of dynamic analysis conservatives have long clamored for, we have a full accounting of both the costs and benefits of reform. I urge Congress to fix our broken immigration system for the sake of the American economy.”

92 darthstar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:45:39am
93 piratedan  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:47:45am

re: #91 Lidane

in short, it blows up the myth that overt racism and jingoistic immigration policy is profitable… whocoulddanode…

You would have thought that the example of what the peanut industry went through last summer would have resonated with Senator Sessions , but you can’t fix stupid I suppose.

94 Joanne  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:48:16am

re: #91 Lidane

They have been raging against Norquist for a while. His wife is Muslim and he is a plant for implementing the Sharia…or something.

Whatever it takes to shut this fucker up. The haters are going to hate no matter what. Might as well get some positive benefit from their hate. There’s some poetic justice in there somewhere.

95 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:48:52am

Of course this same idiot would also deny prenatal care for poor women who want to keep their babies.

96 darthstar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:50:46am
97 piratedan  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:51:06am

re: #95 Vicious Babushka

maybe we need to stick an ultrasound in his ear to see if there’s anything going on other than mental masturbation.

98 Bulworth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:51:26am

re: #95 Vicious Babushka

If abortion is “baby murder” then Congress states should pass legislation outlawing all abortions, anywhere, anytime.

99 darthstar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:51:39am

Fox…Berlin? What Berlin?

100 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:53:00am

re: #98 Bulworth

If abortion is “baby murder” then Congress states should pass legislation outlawing all abortions, anywhere, anytime.

That’s what they want to do.

101 Bulworth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:53:29am

re: #96 darthstar

America’s Founders also said America wasn’t a Christian nation. Maybe they were Muslims, too.

//

102 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:53:45am

BECAUSE THE USSR DOESN’T EXIST! TEH STUPID IT BURNSSSS!!11!!

103 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:54:43am

HAVE MOAR WINGNUT SPELING FAIL

104 piratedan  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:55:34am

re: #99 darthstar

c’mon now, Faux News guys can’t show the Uppity Kenyan Ursurper looking Preesidential now could they? That’d spoil their narrative, there’s only USA and people who we have nuked, those we’re gonna nuke and travel destinations….

105 Bulworth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:56:08am

re: #102 Vicious Babushka

Stay classy, wingnuts.

106 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:58:45am

re: #104 piratedan

Did you know that most pirates simply flew a plain black flag with no design?

Pirates were less arty than previously thought.

107 Lidane  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:00:39am

re: #106 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Did you know that most pirates simply flew a plain black flag with no design?

Pirates were less arty than previously thought.

But why is the rum gone?

108 Bulworth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:00:43am

re: #103 Vicious Babushka

Stay principled, wingnuts

109 Flounder  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:01:20am

Investigation of the 2011 crane collapse in Washington DC concludes:

osha.gov

The crane collapsed because the Crane Service Company operated the crane at a radius well beyond its load chart. At the time of the collapse, the radius of the load was approximately 344 feet, and the telescoping boom was at an angle of approximate 63 degrees. The jib attached to the telescoping boom was almost horizontal. The load chart does not go beyond 260 feet, with the boom making an angle of 75 degrees.

110 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:01:38am

STAY CLASSY

111 piratedan  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:02:13am

re: #106 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Did you know that most pirates simply flew a plain black flag with no design?

Pirates were less arty than previously thought.

I’d like to think that I have more panache, but the handle is what the handle is and it’s politically unrelated (or even geographically so) as it has grown from a phony voice I used to get radio requests played and as such, its just kind of stuck.

112 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:02:24am
113 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:05:30am

re: #106 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Did you know that most pirates simply flew a plain black flag with no design?

Pirates were less arty than previously thought.

And Guy Fawkes was a Catholic fundamentalist who wanted to bring the Inquisition to England. Guy Fawkes was not a progressive or an anarchist.

114 Lancelot Link  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:06:19am

re: #102 Vicious Babushka

BECAUSE THE USSR DOESN’T EXIST! TEH STUPID IT BURNSSSS!!11!!

And this tool has a Harvard education? The Ivy League must be more overrated than I thought.

115 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:11:44am

Get ready for the rehashing of an old conspiracy theory - this time about TWA Flight 800, which crashed off Long Island in 1996. A new film claims that the government accidentally shot down the plane down and then covered it up. They claim that NTSB investigators were silenced and cowed into concocting the internal fuel tank explosion theory, and that they have evidence showing that the US Navy had accidentally shot the plane down.

The investigators supposedly now feel free to talk about the incident since they’re retired from the NTSB.

116 Targetpractice  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:15:30am

re: #115 lawhawk

Get ready for the rehashing of an old conspiracy theory - this time about TWA Flight 800, which crashed off Long Island in 1996. A new film claims that the government accidentally shot down the plane down and then covered it up. They claim that NTSB investigators were silenced and cowed into concocting the internal fuel tank explosion theory, and that they have evidence showing that the US Navy had accidentally shot the plane down.

The investigators supposedly now feel free to talk about the incident since they’re retired from the NTSB.

They’re arguing that the government covered-up an accidental downing to…what? Make themselves look good?

117 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:15:30am
118 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:15:47am

re: #112 Vicious Babushka

Really?

history.house.gov - that highlights some of the many foreign leaders who have addressed joint sessions of Congress.

David Cameron, PM of UK spoke at WH just this past May.

119 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:16:59am

re: #116 Targetpractice

Beats me what their endgame is - if they were really convinced that the plane was shot down, resign and go public with facts and assertions at time investigation was underway, not decades later.

120 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:20:15am

re: #114 Lancelot Link

And this tool has a Harvard education? The Ivy League must be more overrated than I thought.

I am ashamed to say that some of my fellow Ivy leaguers are book smart, but otherwise dumb as a bag o’hammers. Andy Schlafly is but one example. Ted Cruz another.

I come from a long line of free thinkers, so I guess that fancy edumucation actually benefited me more than it did them. Some people are impervious to learning of any kind.

121 Targetpractice  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:20:57am

re: #119 lawhawk

Beats me what their endgame is - if they were really convinced that the plane was shot down, resign and go public with facts and assertions at time investigation was underway, not decades later.

Indeed, this is what always both mystifies and frustrates me about such people, the “coming forward” business that always happens years or even decades after the supposed cover-up and always runs around the same script of “I was ordered to do this, and I did it instead of making a big stink in the press.”

122 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:27:54am

re: #121 Targetpractice

It’s not as though there were journalists and others willing to peddle the theory, including Pierre Salinger.

123 Targetpractice  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:31:29am

re: #122 lawhawk

It’s not as though there were journalists and others willing to peddle the theory, including Pierre Salinger.

Oh, there was no shortage of conspiracy theorists running wild with TWA 800 at the time. Hell, even for years after, I was still hearing CTers argue that it had been taken down either by friendly fire or, if you were one of those who wanted to see a shadowy Islamic cabal behind every “mysterious” happening, an act of terrorism.

124 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:34:48am

re: #107 Lidane

But why is the rum gone?

They’ve been tapping the admiral.

/look it up.

125 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:36:06am

And from the cold case file, looks like the search for Jimmy Hoffa has taken an interesting turn. The FBI is searching a field in Michigan (yet again), but this time the source for the latest search claims that Hoffa was buried alive under a concrete pad after being hit with a shovel.

126 Mattand  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:37:38am

re: #121 Targetpractice

re: #122 lawhawk

Quick, somebody get Greenwald on the case!

127 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:38:41am

re: #125 lawhawk

And from the cold case file, looks like the search for Jimmy Hoffa has taken an interesting turn. The FBI is searching a field in Michigan (yet again), but this time the source for the latest search claims that Hoffa was buried alive under a concrete pad after being hit with a shovel.

BAN ALL YOONYUNZ!!!111!!!

128 Targetpractice  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:39:48am

re: #125 lawhawk

And from the cold case file, looks like the search for Jimmy Hoffa has taken an interesting turn. The FBI is searching a field in Michigan (yet again), but this time the source for the latest search claims that Hoffa was buried alive under a concrete pad after being hit with a shovel.

My mother and I were discussing that yesterday, after we saw a report in the local news. Her view was one I imagine a lot of people have taken these days, which is that it’s a waste of time and money to keep looking for him after all these years. Personally I’m of the belief that the cost is ultimately justified if we can finally put the mystery to rest and give the family that survives him some sense of closure.

129 Bulworth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:39:57am

re: #102 Vicious Babushka

“I intend to seek negotiated cuts with Russia to move beyond Cold War nuclear postures,” Obama said at Berlin’s famous Brandenburg Gate.

Guess that’s just not good enough to meet baby breitbart’s high standards.

130 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:45:38am
131 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:46:23am
132 Bulworth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:47:18am

re: #130 Vicious Babushka

My surprise. Let me show you it.

133 Targetpractice  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:47:35am

re: #130 Vicious Babushka

Oh well, better luck next time.

134 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:49:32am

Jimmy’s ashes (or woodchipper product) were scattered over the Great Lakes.

135 piratedan  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:50:21am

re: #134 Vicious Babushka

sequestered amongst the wreckage of the Edmund Fitzgerald

136 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:52:28am

re: #130 Vicious Babushka

I’m shocked. /

Seriously though, it’s good that the FBI or other law enforcement goes after cold cases since they can not only bring closure to those cases, but can help bring those responsible to justice. That still counts for something.

137 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:58:28am

re: #136 lawhawk

I think they mainly do it because it makes the papers.

138 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:04:23am

re: #134 Vicious Babushka

Jimmy’s ashes (or woodchipper product) were scattered over the Great Lakes.

Sausage.

139 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:05:18am

I’ve gotta tell ya’. Guess it’s nothing new but man these Greenwald and Snowden fanboys sure are a weird lot.

140 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:06:42am

re: #139 Gus

A lot of the people I’ve seen are kind of ignorant of Greenwald’s fuckups. He’s good at putting shit like the sock puppet stuff behind him and publicizing his successes.

141 piratedan  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:06:47am

re: #139 Gus

I’ve gotta tell ya’. Guess it’s nothing new but man these Greenwald and Snowden fanboys sure are a weird lot.

It’s the cult of lack of personality….formerly the Order of the Narcissistic Douchebag

142 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:08:19am

re: #140 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

A lot of the people I’ve seen are kind of ignorant of Greenwald’s fuckups. He’s good at putting shit like the sock puppet stuff behind him and publicizing his successes.

Not as good as McCain successfully burying his Keaton 5 involvement.

143 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:10:57am

re: #139 Gus

I’ve gotta tell ya’. Guess it’s nothing new but man these Greenwald and Snowden fanboys sure are a weird lot.

Do you reckon most are IT nerds, or quasi-Anonymous types?

144 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:12:25am

re: #143 wheat-dogghazi

Do you reckon most are IT nerds, or quasi-Anonymous types?

The latter. Also a lot of Cato types and libertarians. The usual.

145 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:12:44am

Good morning lizards!

146 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:13:56am

re: #134 Vicious Babushka

Jimmy’s ashes (or woodchipper product) were scattered over the Great Lakes.

Can’t be, he’s buried in the end zone in Giants Stadium!

147 Joanne  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:14:05am

re: #143 wheat-dogghazi

Do you reckon most are IT nerds, or quasi-Anonymous types?

To a degree. I think articles like what was/is on CNet hit younger, more tech people in the wrong way. Now they think, erroneously, that the government is listening to and watching their every move, from the time it leaves their lips or fingertips.

If that was the case, I would be unhappy, too.

148 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:14:15am

re: #144 Gus

Got it. They found a hero from their midst.

149 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:27:08am
150 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:29:40am

Sen Murkowski is now in favor of marriage equality. She joins Rob Portman and Mark Kirk for GOPers who support marriage equality. Expect GOPers and socons to demand she be primaried and run out of Senate.

151 Bulworth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:30:55am

re: #150 lawhawk

Maybe Half Governor Palin can go back to Alaska and run in the primary and then quit half way through.

152 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:31:17am

MLK WOULD SAY YOU SUCK

153 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:31:23am

ADL blasts Alice Walker over ‘shocking’ new book

Pulitzer Prize-winning author Alice Walker “has taken her extreme and hostile views to a shocking new level” in her latest book on intertwined personal, spiritual, and political destinies, according a review of the book by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL).

…In The Cushion in the Road, Walker describes Israel’s actions vis-à-vis the Palestinians as “genocide,” “ethnic cleansing,” “crimes against humanity,” and “cruelty and diabolical torture.”

According to the ADL, the book also devotes 80 pages to a “screed on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict replete with fervently anti-Jewish ideas and peppered with explicit comparisons between Israel and Nazi Germany.”

The ADL claim twelve essays of the section, entitled On Palestine, are full of comparisons between Israel and Nazi Germany.

The lobby organization also accuses Walker of denigrating Judaism and Jews. In a statement, Foxman said Walker’s descriptions of the conflict are “grossly inaccurate and biased.”

“It seems Walker wants the uninformed reader to come away sharing her hate-filled conclusions that Israel is committing the greatest atrocity in the history of the world,” Foxman said.

154 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:31:48am

re: #150 lawhawk

Sen Murkowski is now in favor of marriage equality. She joins Rob Portman and Mark Kirk for GOPers who support marriage equality. Expect GOPers and socons to demand she be primaried and run out of Senate.

Well yeah. Remember she won re-election via write in last time. She was after all primaried by that nutcase Miller. I totally expect Palin who hates Murkowski to use this as justification why she should be primaried again.

155 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:32:33am

re: #152 Vicious Babushka

MLK WOULD SAY YOU SUCK

Yeah because you care so much about uniting people Glenn as you liken our democratically elected president to Hitler because you want to be a persecuted minority in Nazi occupied Europe so bad.

156 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:33:28am

Some headlines from the South China Morning Post. No details, as I am running into their paywall soon.

No special treatment for any Edward Snowden asylum claim, says UNHCR In other words, the UN High Commission on Civil Rights has more serious issues to deal with than a whiner holed up in a swank HK hotel.

Snowden’s Hong Kong hacking allegations will be probed, says security ministerWe don’t know what we’ll do with him, but we’re going to check out his assertions anyway.

Hong Kong lawyers for Kim Dotcom fear they may be victims of US cyberspyingKim Dotcom is the Megaupload dude. Snowden’s intel has given Dotcom’s lawyers a new angle to follow in his defense.

157 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:33:35am

The host where I was staying this weekend went off on a longish rant about the Illinois FIDO card while we were driving somewhere. So I went and researched it a bit.

Illinois residents are required since 1968 to apply and get a card from the Illinois State Police (ISP) if they want to own a gun. Applying will trigger a database check and the ISP are required to process the application within 30 days. (Currently having a massive backlog and taking 40-50 days, big surprise.) And they can rescind the card (and thus legal gun ownership) based on a felony conviction, assault conviction, etc. etc.

Illinois also is one of the few states with no legal concealed carry at all. Though given recent lawsuits and proposed laws this might change within the year.

A wikipedia search for “repeal FIDO in Illinois” turned up the expected sites and groups.

158 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:33:55am

re: #152 Vicious Babushka

MLK WOULD SAY YOU SUCK

DARVO

159 piratedan  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:33:57am

re: #152 Vicious Babushka

MLK WOULD SAY YOU SUCK

MLK wouldn’t piss on Glenn Beck if he was fire, he might use sand though….I absolutely hate that this bastard feels no shame whatsoever invoking the name of a civil rights leader in any way, shape or form when by the very tripe that spills out of pie hole he has no idea what suffering for a cause actually means.

160 GunstarGreen  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:34:16am

re: #155 HappyWarrior

Yeah because you care so much about uniting people Glenn as you liken our democratically elected president to Hitler because you want to be a persecuted minority in Nazi occupied Europe so bad.

You people think you’re living under tyranny? No, THIS is tyranny!

It’s a sad commentary on the state of the nation that people believe that having to pay taxes and providing for the common welfare constitutes ‘tyranny’.

161 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:35:30am

re: #152 Vicious Babushka

WTF does that even mean? Both chambers of Congress have been divided by party since time immemorial. Or is Beck talking about something else?

162 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:36:33am

re: #155 HappyWarrior

Yeah because you care so much about uniting people Glenn as you liken our democratically elected president to Hitler because you want to be a persecuted minority in Nazi occupied Europe so bad.

Glenn totally DOES NOT WANT to be actually persecuted like rounded up and sent to concentration camps and genocided and stuff, but he wants to co-opt the victimhood.

163 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:37:04am

re: #160 GunstarGreen

You people think you’re living under tyranny? No, THIS is tyranny!

It’s a sad commentary on the state of the nation that people believe that having to pay taxes and providing for the common welfare constitutes ‘tyranny’.

Shit and taxes aren’t even that high. The big “evil” Obama wanted was wanting to raise the wealthiest 1%’s taxes to what they were in the Clinton years. How terrible.

164 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:37:38am

re: #162 Vicious Babushka

Glenn totally DOES NOT WANT to be actually persecuted like rounded up and sent to concentration camps and genocided and stuff, but he wants to co-opt the victimhood.

True that. He couldn’t bear actual persecution because he’d be forced to see how pathetic he is for comparing POTUS to the Nazis or any dictator.

165 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:38:13am

re: #161 wheat-dogghazi

WTF does that even mean? Both chambers of Congress have been divided by party since time immemorial. Or is Beck talking about something else?

I think he’s back on crack.

166 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:39:20am

re: #163 HappyWarrior

Shit and taxes aren’t even that high. The big “evil” Obama wanted was wanting to raise the wealthiest 1%’s taxes to what they were in the Clinton years. How terrible.

IT TEH EEVIL POORS WHO ARE LIVIN IT UP ON FOOD STAMPZ AND OBAMAPHONES AT TEH EXPENSE OF TEH PERSECUTED HARD WORKIN JRRB CREATIN MILLIONAIRES!!11!!

167 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:39:28am


Drones!

168 efuseakay  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:40:27am

re: #167 Gus

Drones!

Hmmm… I wonder what he really said.

169 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:41:16am

re: #168 efuseakay

Hmmm… I wonder what he really said.

Ha! True.

170 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:42:42am

re: #167 Gus

Drones!

Isn’t that a sort of ‘duh’ thing? If the technology makes considerable sense for patrolling areas remotely (as compared to manned helicopters, etc.) then you should expect it to be used.

It seems that a lot of people simply view the word “drones” as meaning missile-armed Predator or Reaper variants are circling above their homes and will destroy them once their registration as Republicans or Libertarians is confirmed and the button is pushed.

171 efuseakay  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:43:38am

re: #157 Feline Fearless Leader

The host where I was staying this weekend went off on a longish rant about the Illinois FIDO card while we were driving somewhere. So I went and researched it a bit.

Illinois residents are required since 1968 to apply and get a card from the Illinois State Police (ISP) if they want to own a gun. Applying will trigger a database check and the ISP are required to process the application within 30 days. (Currently having a massive backlog and taking 40-50 days, big surprise.) And they can rescind the card (and thus legal gun ownership) based on a felony conviction, assault conviction, etc. etc.

Illinois also is one of the few states with no legal concealed carry at all. Though given recent lawsuits and proposed laws this might change within the year.

A wikipedia search for “repeal FIDO in Illinois” turned up the expected sites and groups.

FOID… ;)

Original deadline for CCW was June 6, but the Illinois Atty Gen. granted a 30 day extension.

172 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:44:32am

re: #170 Feline Fearless Leader

Isn’t that a sort of ‘duh’ thing? If the technology makes considerable sense for patrolling areas remotely (as compared to manned helicopters, etc.) then you should expect it to be used.

It seems that a lot of people simply view the word “drones” as meaning missile-armed Predator or Reaper variants are circling above their homes and will destroy them once their registration as Republicans or Libertarians is confirmed and the button is pushed.

That’s what I was thinking too. The word “drone” brings out the paranoia. You’d think libertarians and Republicans who claim to be “fiscally conservative” would be partial to something like that since it’s more affordable than manned vehicles but of course these are people who act like government surveilence on US citizens is something developed and started by Barack Obama.

173 makeitstop  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:44:37am

re: #146 NJDhockeyfan

Can’t be, he’s buried in the end zone in Giants Stadium!

Mythbusters debunked that.

174 Sionainn  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:44:51am

re: #164 HappyWarrior

True that. He couldn’t bear actual persecution because he’d be forced to see how pathetic he is for comparing POTUS to the Nazis or any dictator.

He couldn’t even handle a hemorrhoidectomy. Actual persecution? He’d be a blubbery mess curled up on the fetal position.

175 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:45:56am
176 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:46:20am

re: #167 Gus

Drones!

I hear soon they’re going to step up the program and use people in those drones. Some of these drones will be able to hover, and will be painted black.

177 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:48:34am
178 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:52:11am

re: #177 NJDhockeyfan

Notice the two have glamor shots.

//

179 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:55:57am


Derp.

180 jayjaybear  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:56:39am

I’m just surprised no one’s mistaken Ben Shapiro for a particularly unattractive cockroach and stomped on him yet.

181 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:56:49am

re: #179 Gus

Derp.

MJayRosenberg and Pam Geller have both blocked me on Twitter. :)

182 Bulworth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:57:33am

re: #181 Vicious Babushka

Are you the most blocked person on Twitter?

183 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:58:07am

Who is that derpy dude with the cigarette hanging off his lip that MJay uses for an avatar? And why does he think that looks kewl? It looks totally lame, even lamer than MJay looks in real life.

184 Lidane  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:58:37am

Note to self: It doesn’t matter how organized I am for work if I leave the laptop charger at home. FAIL.

*sigh*

It’s going to be one of those days. =/

185 Joanne  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:59:24am

re: #150 lawhawk

Sen Murkowski is now in favor of marriage equality. She joins Rob Portman and Mark Kirk for GOPers who support marriage equality. Expect GOPers and socons to demand she be primaried and run out of Senate.

Didn’t they try that? And she won…on a write in. With a name like Murkowski, no less.

186 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:59:34am

re: #181 Vicious Babushka

MJayRosenberg and Pam Geller have both blocked me on Twitter. :)

It stunning that MJ finds that the USA would do something in Israels interest. Like, duh. We are good allies in the region. It’s not something that’s freaking shocking. If we’re doing anything in Syria to help the rebels that also aligns us with the Muslim Brotherhood of Egypt. It’s complicated and something that nutburger just can’t understand.

187 Lidane  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:00:24am

re: #167 Gus

188 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:00:46am

re: #186 Gus

It stunning that MJ finds that the USA would do something in Israels interest. Like, duh. We are good allies in the region. It’s not something that’s freaking shocking. If we’re doing anything in Syria to help the rebels that also aligns us with the Muslim Brotherhood of Egypt. It’s complicated and something that nutburger just can’t understand.

I would love to see a cage match between MJ and Pamela. Except that I think Pamela would totally rip MJ’s head off and shit down his neck.

189 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:01:20am

re: #183 Vicious Babushka

Who is that derpy dude with the cigarette hanging off his lip that MJay uses for an avatar? And why does he think that looks kewl? It looks totally lame, even lamer than MJay looks in real life.

John Garfield in “Force of Evil” in 1948

190 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:01:45am

re: #189 Backwoods_Sleuth

John Garfield in “Force of Evil” in 1948

How did you know that?

191 Ian G.  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:01:46am

re: #177 NJDhockeyfan

And yet this “attack on its own citizens” remains pretty popular with said citizens:

abcnews.go.com

It must be that false consciousness creeping in again. Chomsky and Bobby Jindal should go have a beer together and cry about how the American sheeple just won’t listen to their brilliant ideas on how to lead the country forward.

Disclaimer: I would love to see the NSA surveillance programs reigned in a bit, but I’m not going to pretend this is some diabolical things that would outrage the public if they find out about it. The public wants it, and the government is giving it to them. The end.

192 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:02:32am

re: #190 Vicious Babushka

How did you know that?

I image googled the picture.
;)

193 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:02:39am

re: #188 Vicious Babushka

I would love to see a cage match between MJ and Pamela. Except that I think Pamela would rip MJ’s head off and shit down his neck.

These weirdos that think AIPAC controls everything.

194 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:03:32am

re: #193 Gus

These weirdos that think AIPAC controls everything.

Pamela thinks AIPAC are JINO’s or Jewicidal Dhimmidogs or something.

195 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:05:18am

re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth

I image googled the picture.
;)

Did you use Tineye?

196 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:06:19am

re: #194 Vicious Babushka

Pamela thinks AIPAC are JINO’s or Jewicidal Dhimmidogs or something.

MJ Rosenberg hates AIPAC. Pamela Geller hates AIPAC. That should be the first clue.

197 Ian G.  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:06:27am

So this happened.

I honestly don’t know how one can race down 2nd Avenue. It’s usually a parking lot at all hours. I hope these idiots spend a long time in jail for this.

198 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:07:17am

re: #195 Vicious Babushka

Did you use Tineye?

Nope, just google image

199 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:07:43am

Man accused of threatening Texas Sen. Ted Cruz

HOUSTON (AP) — A Houston man is accused of threatening to kidnap, murder and burn U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas and his father and also to “blow up” the sun if he wasn’t paid $3 million.

Nick Gates was being held Tuesday in the Harris County jail on a $10,000 bond. He’s charged with making a terroristic threat.

Investigators allege threatening phone calls made June 5 to Cruz’s offices in Austin and San Antonio were traced back to Gates.

200 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:08:31am

re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth

Nope, just google image

What search term did you use?

201 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:09:23am

re: #199 NJDhockeyfan

Man accused of threatening Texas Sen. Ted Cruz

Did this man have a bald head, white skin and a ring on his pinky finger?

202 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:10:42am

So are we going to see the Breitbartization of Michale Hastings?

203 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:11:40am

re: #200 Vicious Babushka

What search term did you use?

I took a screenshot of the picture, then went to google search by image and uploaded it to the search box.
I watch a lot of old movies and he looked familiar, so I figured it would be a simple search.

204 William of Orange  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:11:43am

How to remove McAfee anti-virus software from your computer in one step.

Youtube Video

Careful, NSFW, for bad words and such. No nudity.

205 erik_t  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:13:24am

re: #199 NJDhockeyfan

Man accused of threatening Texas Sen. Ted Cruz

and also to “blow up” the sun

He sounds well-adjusted.

206 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:16:00am

re: #205 erik_t

He sounds well-adjusted.

wonder if he also was carrying a loaded burrito…

207 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:16:00am

re: #197 Ian G.

Far too often, unless someone is killed, drivers in vehicle-caused injuries do not get prosecuted. Most drivers speed well above the posted speed limit (and all too often 10+ over the speed limit), and police enforcement is nonexistent. It’s just not prioritized.

Instead, the NYPD and media outlets focus on bicyclists and the new citibike program for their ire - along with changing street use patterns to focus less on cars and more on other modes of transportation.

208 GunstarGreen  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:17:26am

re: #199 NJDhockeyfan

Man accused of threatening Texas Sen. Ted Cruz

Congress announced today that the PATRIOT act is amazing, referencing how it stopped a terror plot against the sun.

//.

209 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:19:18am
210 piratedan  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:21:06am

the GOP jobs program….. an unpaid internship spent fetching shit for the 1%

211 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:22:26am

The World Bank issued a report highlight just how devastating climate change and global warming will devastate those who are least able to withstand the effects - particularly in Africa and South Asia.

Already by the 2030s, 40 percent of the land used to grow maize in sub-Saharan Africa will be unable to sustain that crop because of droughts and heat, the report said. Also by that time, sea level rise coupled with more intense cyclones could inundate much of Thailand’s capital, Bangkok, it said.
“At the World Bank Group, we are concerned that unless the world takes bold action now, a disastrously warming planet threatens to put prosperity out of reach of millions and roll back decades of development,” Kim said. “In response we are stepping up our mitigation, adaptation, and disaster risk management work, and will increasingly look at all our business through a ‘climate lens.’”
In a conference call, bank Vice President Rachel Kyte said the World Bank doubled its lending aimed at adaptation efforts to $4.6 billion in 2012.
She said that money was separate from the adaptation funds transferred from rich to poor countries in U.N. climate talks. The developed countries have pledged to ramp that financing up to $100 billion annually by 2020. Critics say that won’t be enough, pointing to the New York’s recently announced $20 billion plan — for that city alone — to stave off rising seas with flood gates, levees and other defenses.

212 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:22:33am

re: #134 Vicious Babushka

Jimmy’s ashes (or woodchipper product) were scattered over the Great Lakes.

He’s fed the worms, the worms have fed the birds and the birds have fertilized the crops. All is as it should be.

213 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:23:37am
214 Joanne  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:25:13am

re: #199 NJDhockeyfan

Man accused of threatening Texas Sen. Ted Cruz

HOUSTON (AP) — A Houston man is accused of threatening to kidnap, murder and burn U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas and his father and also to “blow up” the sun if he wasn’t paid $3 million.

Uhm…

215 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:26:09am

re: #214 Joanne

Uhm…

Youtube Video

216 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:26:36am

re: #212 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

He’s fed the worms, the worms have fed the birds and the birds have fertilized the crops. All is as it should be.

It’s the Circle of Life!

217 wrenchwench  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:26:56am
218 Mattand  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:27:59am

re: #209 Vicious Babushka

House GOP Bans Abortions After 20 Weeks, Unemployment Rate Somehow Unaffected

Along that lines, here’s an e-mail someone sent to Josh Marshall at TPM about this.

I’m pro-choice, but being a guy, I can still be a bit clueless about women’s health issues. One thing the e-mail’s author brought up is that with bills like this, Republicans often demand that a woman be forced to carry a non-viable/dead fetus to term.

That’s horrific. This is why I call the current GOP the American Taliban. The sheer lack of humanity it takes to write and vote for a bill like this is frightening.

Again, if you’re voting for the GOP, this is what you endorse. If you can disconnect your empathy towards other human beings like these politicians, there’s something wrong with you.

219 BeenHereAwhile  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:28:07am

re: #80 Decatur Deb

Speaking of Alabama idiots. Shame you can’t tweet our beloved senator’s full name:”Senator Jefferson Beauregard Sessions The Third”. Not enough characters left for a derpmessage.

Sounds like a name from an Al Capp comic strip.

220 Joanne  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:28:45am

re: #215 NJDhockeyfan

Ok, if he meant blowing up the SON, then I can see terrorism (truly, that is a big stretch in itself), but I will go with it.

Blowing up the SUN? If this is the case, he is clearly not mentally sound.

221 piratedan  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:29:37am

re: #217 wrenchwench

gotta love the use of success kid there, could have used business cat too I suppose.

222 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:30:31am

re: #218 Mattand

Along that lines, here’s an e-mail someone sent to Josh Marshall at TPM about this.

I’m pro-choice, but being a guy, I can still be a bit clueless about women’s health issues. One thing the e-mail’s author brought up is that with bills like this, Republicans often demand that a woman be forced to carry a non-viable/dead fetus to term.

That’s horrific. This is why I call the current GOP the American Taliban. The sheer lack of humanity it takes to write and vote for a bill like this is frightening.

Again, if you’re voting for the GOP, this is what you endorse. If you can disconnect your empathy towards other human beings like these politicians, there’s something wrong with you.

Another thing that wingnuts insist is that women choose “adoption.” They can not possibly comprehend the lifelong trauma of carrying a child to term, giving birth, hearing it cry, maybe hold it once and then never see it again.

223 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:32:44am

re: #217 wrenchwench

So, when the CBO report shows that receipts will exceed expenditures by about a trillion dollars over next decade if the immigration bill passes as written (and with all the usual caveats*), the GOP anti-immigration brigade now claims that the CBO needs to do a 20 year study, not the usual 10 year one. The results aren’t in their favor, so they think that changing the parameters and goalposts will arrive at their predetermined outcome.

*the usual caveat being that the CBO can only address budget projections based on the law as it is currently written, not how future law may be amended.

224 Mattand  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:32:59am

re: #222 Vicious Babushka

Another thing that wingnuts insist is that women choose “adoption.” They can not possibly comprehend the lifelong trauma of carrying a child to term, giving birth, hearing it cry, maybe hold it once and then never see it again.

Yeah, this is as well.

I don’t feel guilty for being born male, but goddamn, it’s shocking how fucking clueless and heartless my gender can be at times.

225 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:33:04am

Now for a cute break…

Four Tiny Rabbits Are Found And Rescued By A U.S. Marine

Redditor Tokyomaneater69, U.S. Marine, found four baby bunnies in a hole next to a dead rabbit. He took them and decided to give them a second chance at life.

He bottle fed them four times a day for two months.

Youtube Video

Youtube Video

226 wrenchwench  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:34:46am

re: #221 piratedan

gotta love the use of success kid there, could have used business cat too I suppose.

Related? Unrelated:

227 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:36:07am

re: #184 Lidane

Note to self: It doesn’t matter how organized I am for work if I leave the laptop charger at home. FAIL.

*sigh*

It’s going to be one of those days. =/

Two laptop power converters fixes that problem.

228 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:36:35am

re: #94 Joanne

They have been raging against Norquist for a while. His wife is Muslim and he is a plant for implementing the Sharia…or something.

Whatever it takes to shut this fucker up. The haters are going to hate no matter what. Might as well get some positive benefit from their hate. There’s some poetic justice in there somewhere.

they have a narrow vision of America any anyone who strays from it in any way, like Norquist with his Muslim wife or AZ governor Jan Brewer in accepting ACA Medicaid funding, is going to be reviled and rejected no matter what their previous track record was.

They are hateful, spiteful people who deserve to fail catastrohically, but not in a way that will drag us with them.

229 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:39:14am

The Heritage Foundation started following me on Twitter today. Must be because of my irrelevance.

230 Dr. Matt  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:39:58am

King Derp Dim Jim makes an appearance at the teabag rally in DC:Image: King_Derp.png

For more: DC Tea Party Rally Bombs as Crowd For ‘Epic’ IRS Protest Rally Is Just 5,000-10,000

231 Joanne  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:40:34am

re: #224 Mattand

Yeah, this is as well.

I don’t feel guilty for being born male, but goddamn, it’s shocking how fucking clueless and heartless my gender can be at times.

I don’t think it is a gender thing, it is a religious thing.

232 piratedan  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:40:44am

re: #226 wrenchwench

Related? Unrelated:

I went ahead and submiited a similar LOL using Business Cat just to see if it has a chance to thrive

233 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:41:52am
234 Mattand  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:42:07am

re: #229 Charles Johnson

The Heritage Foundation started following me on Twitter.
today. Must be because of my irrelevance.

Keep friends close and enemies closer, I guess.

I took a swing at Rick Warren on Twitter when he started gloating about Christopher Hitchen’s death. Two of his lackeys started following me on Twitter.

I can only imagine their disappointment.

235 Mattand  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:43:22am

re: #231 Joanne

I don’t think it is a gender thing, it is a religious thing.

Yeah, true. Although the majority of these bills are written and voted on mostly by men.

236 Joanne  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:44:54am

re: #225 NJDhockeyfan

That was adorable! What a guy!!

237 Joanne  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:46:36am

re: #230 Dr. Matt

King Derp Dim Jim makes an appearance at the teabag rally in DC

Image: King_Derp.png

For more: DC Tea Party Rally Bombs as Crowd For ‘Epic’ IRS Protest Rally Is Just 5,000-10,000

Still 5000-10,000 people too many, IMHO.

238 erik_t  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:47:16am

re: #230 Dr. Matt

King Derp Dim Jim makes an appearance at the teabag rally in DC

A jacket with a T-shirt?

Holy Moses, Jim.

239 Dr. Matt  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:48:35am

re: #237 Joanne

Still 5000-10,000 people too many, IMHO.

True, but the RWNJs have been chest-thumping all week that this was going to be the biggest teabag rally ever. Yet, Glenn Beck could announce that he’s going to take a public crap in the woods, and his demented followers would still show up.

240 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:49:27am

re: #150 lawhawk

Sen Murkowski is now in favor of marriage equality. She joins Rob Portman and Mark Kirk for GOPers who support marriage equality. Expect GOPers and socons to demand she be primaried and run out of Senate.

She is going to plague the TPGOP until they bring her Joe Miller’s head in a Gucchi purse.

241 Dr. Matt  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:49:40am

re: #238 erik_t

A jacket with a T-shirt?

Holy Moses, Jim.

It appears to be a hurricane. My guess that it probably contains some feeble attempt at global warming snark.

242 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:49:51am

re: #225 NJDhockeyfan

Now for a cute break…

Four Tiny Rabbits Are Found And Rescued By A U.S. Marine

Sandwich size.

243 Joanne  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:50:40am

re: #239 Dr. Matt

True, but the RWNJs have been chest-thumping all week that this was going to be the biggest teabag rally ever. Yet, Glenn Beck could announce that he’s going to take a public crap in the woods, and his demented followers would still show up.

Yeah, yeah, yeah…and Beck’s last effort was supposedly like 80k strong, until the park service people said…uhm, no…nowhere near that.

That this many people can take the time to bitch about (fill in the bitch du jour), one which is almost assuredly wrong, stuns the senses.

244 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:51:19am

re: #237 Joanne

Still 5000-10,000 people too many, IMHO.

That’s by way of Hoft’s counters. Might be a little ‘skewed’.

245 Bear  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:52:58am

OT perhaps.
Considering some of the candidates, this is the best of the litter INMHO. guardian.co.uk

246 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:54:13am
247 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:55:36am

re: #246 Vicious Babushka

Did they burn a pinata on his lawn?

248 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:56:36am

re: #247 Decatur Deb

Did they burn a pinata on his lawn?

They stood around in their graduation robes and mortarboard caps and looked all scary because ROBES=KKK!!!!!!

249 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:57:48am

WHY NOT MENTION JESUS WHILE YOU’RE AT IT?

250 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:58:41am
251 wrenchwench  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:01:59am

re: #249 Vicious Babushka

WHY NOT MENTION JESUS WHILE YOU’RE AT IT?


I hate it when people spell Gandhi as ‘Ghandi’.

Of course, what Glenn Beck thinks MLK and Gandhi advocated was ‘passive-aggressive resistance’. He’s all for that.

252 bratwurst  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:02:35am

Glenn must be slipping if he forgot to compare it to the Holocaust as well!

253 piratedan  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:03:03am

re: #250 Vicious Babushka

next on Glenn Beck, we tell you how Arabs and Jews can live together in peace and harmony, how to cure the common cold and a special segment on my plans to irrigate the Sahara.

254 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:03:05am

re: #220 Joanne

Ok, if he meant blowing up the SON, then I can see terrorism (truly, that is a big stretch in itself), but I will go with it.

Blowing up the SUN? If this is the case, he is clearly not mentally sound.

Amidst the fact that the sun is in the process of blowing up, but gravity is keeping it repressed. So the GOP should go repeal gravity since physics is keeping a bunch of energy the Earth could use cooped up!
////

255 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:05:03am

re: #253 piratedan

next on Glenn Beck, we tell you how Arabs and Jews can live together in peace and harmony, how to cure the common cold and a special segment on my plans to irrigate the Sahara.

Next up: How to play the flute

You blow in this end, and wiggle your fingers around on these holes. Easy as pie.

256 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:05:04am

re: #230 Dr. Matt

King Derp Dim Jim makes an appearance at the teabag rally in DC:Image: King_Derp.png

For more: DC Tea Party Rally Bombs as Crowd For ‘Epic’ IRS Protest Rally Is Just 5,000-10,000

They were told that if they walked the IRS would tax their feet.
// ;P

257 Weet  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:06:35am
258 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:07:04am

Texas pastor: Donate to fix my helicopter and get a new car from God

A Texas pastor is being accused of “blasphemy” after he sent out a fundraising plea promising that God would give a new car in “52 days or 52 weeks” to anyone who chipped in $52 to fix his helicopter.

“Do you need better transportation?” New Light Church Bishop Ira V. Hilliard asks in a letter obtained by The Smoking Section. “Do you have a dream vehicle or luxury automobile you long to purchase?”

“We have an urgent transportation need that the Lord said can be an opportunity for you to see His favor and His wisdom released to help you,” he continues. “Scripture teaches when you give to a Kingdom need God will raise up someone to use their power, their ability and their influence to help you.”

Hilliard says that he was excited when the “small voice of the Holy Spirit” told him that God would “release favor” for anyone who helped upgrade the blades on the church’s helicopter.

259 Joanne  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:07:26am

re: #248 Vicious Babushka

They stood around in their graduation robes and mortarboard caps and looked all scary because ROBES=KKK!!!!!!

Education to the rubes? Might as well be KKK robes. Edjumaksion is the debil spaun.

260 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:09:10am

re: #259 Joanne

Education to the rubes? Might as well be KKK robes. Edjumaksion is the debil spaun.

The same people who mock madrassas as only teaching about the Koran think the only book a person needs is the Bible.

261 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:09:27am

re: #135 piratedan

Area 51.

262 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:11:27am

Oh noes. Slim Whitman dead at age 90.

Martian attack plans are moved forward.

263 A Mom Anon  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:11:40am

re: #230 Dr. Matt

A big “as many as 55” people from Atlanta’s suburbs boarded a bus yesterday to head to the big rally. This was appearantly very newsworthy since it was on the local ABC affiliate at least half a dozen times since they left yesterday. The film of the happy protest goers on the bus showed them as all white and most likely over 60, I saw no younger people in the group. I’m half surprised that WSB (which has a wingnut radio station with the same call letters) didn’t send a reporter to cover the big news, though they did tell us today that Glenn Beck was speaking to the crowd RIGHT NOW at lunch time. This is one thing that drives me batshit about the local news here, it’s either “OMG it’s raining, break out the Storm Chaser 2 truck” or big time coverage of anything a conservative does, unless of course a democrat (usually an african american) does something wrong. Meanwhile, when our governor, Nathan Deal was being investigated while he was a member of congress for corruption, the local news said barely a word and fell all over themselves to cover his campaign for governor. Ack.

264 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:13:37am
265 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:13:53am

re: #263 A Mom Anon
wonder if there was enough room in the bus cargo hold for all of the hoverounds.

266 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:14:26am

re: #264 Kragar

Now That Plan B Is Available To All Women, Conservatives Want To Restrict It On The State Level

Who didn’t see that one coming?

state’s rights, dammit!!!!
//

267 Bulworth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:15:29am

re: #258 Kragar

“We have an urgent transportation need that the Lord said can be an opportunity for you to see His favor and His wisdom released to help you,”

Because that’s how God rolls. /

268 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:15:31am

Oh the horror. Oh the humanity.

Since the HPV vaccine was made available in 2006, the infection rate has dropped 50%. And that’s even with a low enrollment.

That’s amazing progress is a short period of time, and indicates that a higher enrollment rate would further reduce the spread of HPV and reduce incidence of cervical cancer.

269 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:16:07am

re: #252 bratwurst

Glenn must be slipping if he forgot to compare it to the Holocaust as well!

Get your wingnut memes straight.

IRS=SLAVERY
GUN CONTROL=HOLOCAUST

270 Bulworth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:16:44am

re: #256 Feline Fearless Leader

For more:
DC Tea Party Rally Bombs as Crowd For ‘Epic’ IRS Protest Rally Is Just 5,000-10,000

U LIE!! Largest crowd in DC EVER!!!11!!

271 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:17:49am

GLENN USES A FAKE QUOTE

272 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:20:14am

re: #271 Vicious Babushka

GLENN USES A FAKE QUOTE

I cannot disagree with the fake quote if you add that it refers to private religious and moral views that people use to shape their lives and act as a model for others to emulate…

but of course, glenn is referring to imposing his personal religion and morality on everyone

273 Bulworth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:21:32am

re: #271 Vicious Babushka

And gunz.

Freedom ain’t Freedom.

//

274 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:22:01am

re: #272 Sol Berdinowitz

I cannot disagree with the fake quote if you add that it refers to private religious and moral views that people use to shape their lives and act as a model for others to emulate…

but of course, glenn is referring to imposing his personal religion and morality on everyone

David Barton made up a whole bunch of Fake Quotes which he attributed to the Founders and I think this is what Glenn is referring to.

275 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:22:43am

Autopsy On GOP Social Issues Is ‘Grossly Overstated’ Say GOP Lawmakers

Republican lawmakers have a message for those who want the party to soften its emphasis on social conservatism in hopes of reaching a wider national audience: Not so fast.

House Republicans flexed their cultural and conservative muscles Tuesday, passing the most restrictive abortion measure in years. They also advanced legislation to crack down on immigrants living illegally in the country, even as senators pursue a plan that would offer those same millions a shot at citizenship.

The actions reflect a roiling debate among Republicans over why they lost two elections to President Barack Obama, and how best to rebuild a winning formula.

Many Republicans in Congress and elsewhere think the party’s establishment erred in concluding the GOP must embrace “comprehensive immigration reform” to attract Hispanic voters. And they dismiss the notion that Republicans should soft-pedal their opposition to abortion, a subject on which they say public opinion is moving their way.

276 Bulworth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:22:49am

re: #271 Vicious Babushka

Which is why Jeebus and George Washington would be against the bipartisan Senate immigration bill.

//

277 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:24:00am
278 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:24:42am
279 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:25:21am

The Wingnuts see that part of the Constitution that says “no religious test” and say “Why would there be? Christianity is the obvious answer!”

280 Joanne  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:28:19am

re: #275 Kragar

Autopsy On GOP Social Issues Is ‘Grossly Overstated’ Say GOP Lawmakers

Oh, please please please…dismiss all of the nay-sayers. There is no there there. Keep on keeping on.

Please proceed.

kthxbye!

281 Bulworth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:30:49am

re: #250 Vicious Babushka

Wait, Glenn Beck’s a Peace hippy now?

//

282 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:31:07am

Going to take a stab in the dark here, but I’m guessing that whole “rebranding” thing is dead.

283 Bulworth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:32:09am

re: #271 Vicious Babushka

The Tea Party is only all about Less Government Spending and the DEBTDEFICIT. //

284 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:33:05am

re: #271 Vicious Babushka

GLENN USES A FAKE QUOTE

What the fuck would you know about morality, Glenn?

285 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:34:22am

re: #117 Vicious Babushka

As SCOTUS considers gutting the Voting Rights Act…

286 wrenchwench  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:34:33am

re: #278 Backwoods_Sleuth

just seen on FB:

picture: miscarriage swat teams

“It’s just a period, I swear! I was only three days late!”

287 Ian G.  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:34:42am

re: #250 Vicious Babushka

Somwhere, the Jains are wondering who this Jewish carpenter was.

One of the many things that bugs me about wingut versions of Christianity is the idea that “Judeo-Christian” values are the only ones that teach peace, or have rules against theft or murder or adultery or perjury. It’s amazing that the Chinese or the Indians or the Incas were able to build such impressive civilizations when they were robbing and killing and raping each other non-stop without the word of Jesus or the 10 Commandments.

288 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:35:35am

Fischer: Liberals Support Immigration Because Conservatives are Outbreeding Them

On his radio program yesterday, Bryan Fischer explained that liberals support immigration reform because they are being out-bred by conservatives and so “ten, twenty years down the road, they’re just going to be outnumbered.”

“We are breeding our own voters,” Fischer said of conservatives, whereas liberals “have got to import them … so that’s why they’re so enamored with illegal aliens and amnesty for them is they’ve got to find some way to get these people on the voter rolls to just maintain numerical parity with conservatives”:

Yeah, because Conservatism is passed genetically, and if you’re born a conservative, you’ll never change.

Conservatism = Born that way
Homosexuality = a choice

289 wrenchwench  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:35:58am

re: #282 Kragar

Going to take a stab in the dark here, but I’m guessing that whole “rebranding” thing is dead.

Meet the new brand. Same as the old brand.

Won’t you please get fooled again?

290 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:36:47am

Update to the weird “Zionist Death Ray” story:

291 calochortus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:37:13am

re: #287 Ian G.

Somwhere, the Jains are wondering who this Jewish carpenter was.

One of the many things that bugs me about wingut versions of Christianity is the idea that “Judeo-Christian” values are the only ones that teach peace, or have rules against theft or murder or adultery or perjury. It’s amazing that the Chinese or the Indians or the Incas were able to build such impressive civilizations when they were robbing and killing and raping each other non-stop without the word of Jesus or the 10 Commandments.

Apparently many of the British missionaries who went out to India during the Raj were profoundly shocked to find out that the Hindus, etc. had perfectly good moral beliefs and a functioning society without Christianity.

292 piratedan  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:40:05am

re: #289 wrenchwench

Meet the new brand. Same as the old brand.

Won’t you please get fooled again?

by rebranding, somehow I feel like our collective cattle has been rustled and these guys are trying to pass them off as their own.

293 GunstarGreen  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:40:13am

re: #288 Kragar

Fischer: Liberals Support Immigration Because Conservatives are Outbreeding Them

Yeah, because Conservatism is passed genetically, and if you’re born a conservative, you’ll never change.

Conservatism = Born that way
Homosexuality = a choice

I guess it would really pop BF’s head to know that I love my father, but I also frequently remind him of how stupid he sounds when he starts spouting some RWNJ meme-of-the-week at me.

Although he’s never told me anything like this, I have to imagine that it burns him up, on some level, to know that my bleeding-heart liberalism has gained me more education and success than his ‘principled values’ ever did.

294 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:42:05am

re: #293 GunstarGreen

I guess it would really pop BF’s head to know that I love my father, but I also frequently remind him of how stupid he sounds when he starts spouting some RWNJ meme-of-the-week at me.

“Honour thy father and thy mother!” you dirty sinner!
///

295 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:42:07am

re: #291 calochortus

Apparently many of the British missionaries who went out to India during the Raj were profoundly shocked to find out that the Hindus, etc. had perfectly good moral beliefs and a functioning society without Christianity.

And probably jealous of how well entrenched the caste system was.

296 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:42:15am

Morning all,

How goes it?

297 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:42:31am

I’m sure that Pam will come rushing to the defense of these “patriots”

298 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:43:21am

re: #296 FemNaziBitch

Morning all,

How goes it?

Not too bad. Nice day outside here in Philly (took a walk at lunch) and I am recovered from travel-caused exhaustion and sinus congestion.

299 Ian G.  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:43:25am

re: #288 Kragar

Yup, us dumb lib’ruls who wait until we’re financially stable and emotionally mature enough to start a family are being outbred by the Palin-style dysfunctional family of a half-dozen knocked-up teenagers pumping out kids on welfare.

I think Fischer watched the opening of “Idiocracy” recently and though it was Utopia.

300 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:44:25am

re: #296 FemNaziBitch

Morning all,

How goes it?

sun is shining, the loons are still nutz, and I’m thinking about making a summer squash soup and some baked zucchini fries.

301 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:44:41am

DERP

302 GunstarGreen  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:45:36am

re: #301 Vicious Babushka

DERP

We love Freedom™ and Liberty™ which is why we want to turn large tracts of the nation into disenfranchised serfs.

303 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:45:38am

re: #301 Vicious Babushka

DERP

Well, that eliminates anyone who is getting farm subsidies then, right?

304 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:46:14am

re: #301 Vicious Babushka

DERP

He should run the numbers on that and see how much it would hit the rural vote in the interior red states.

305 GunstarGreen  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:46:29am

re: #303 Kragar

Well, that eliminates anyone who is getting farm subsidies then, right?

Nah bro, that’s the legitimate kind of welfare. See also: Medicare/Medicaid and Social Security for those already receiving.

306 Bulworth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:46:49am

re: #301 Vicious Babushka

Rebranded

307 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:47:07am

If I see that clip one more time of Blackburn insisting that the 20-week abortion ban will prevent more “Gosnell atrocities” I will go berserk.
Apparently, the fact that CURRENT law already prohibits “Gosnell atrocities” doesn’t enter their feeble minds…

308 Ian G.  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:47:18am

re: #301 Vicious Babushka

Does “welfare” include subsidies to corporations to drill for oil? How about military contractors?

Not that I’d be opposed to disenfranchising the board of Exxon-Mobil, mind you.

309 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:47:34am

re: #205 erik_t

He sounds well-adjusted.

Yeah, he also wanted to banish the letter ‘Q’ from the alphabet.

310 Bulworth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:47:45am

re: #301 Vicious Babushka

DERP

Today in Great Conservative Freedom Ideas

311 Ian G.  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:48:44am

re: #307 Backwoods_Sleuth

If I see that clip one more time of Blackburn insisting that the 20-week abortion ban will prevent more “Gosnell atrocities” I will go berserk.
Apparently, the fact that CURRENT law already prohibits “Gosnell atrocities” doesn’t enter their feeble minds…

Lemme guess: Blackburn opposed hate-crime laws, because it’s already illegal to beat someone up because he/she is gay/black/Muslim/Jewish/etc.

Fucking logic, how does it work?

312 Joanne  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:49:17am

re: #290 Vicious Babushka

Update to the weird “Zionist Death Ray” story:

Federal prosecutors announced Wednesday they had charged an alleged member of the Ku Klux Klan who worked as an industrial mechanic for General Electric Co. with designing a remote-controlled, truck-mounted device that could silently beam letahal doses of radiation at human targets, according to the Albany Times Union.

Glendon Scott Crawford, 49, was accused of developing the mobile device and attempting to sell it to Jewish groups and then to a southern branch of the KKK. A second suspect was also arrested Tuesday. The charging document was unsealed Wednesday.

This does not compute.

313 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:49:23am

re: #309 Eventual Carrion

Yeah, he also wanted to banish the letter ‘Q’ from the alphabet.

well, have to admit that “Q” was a pretty annoying brat…

314 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:54:42am

re: #286 wrenchwench

“It’s just a period, I swear! I was only three days late!”

Excellent!

And to everyone, did you let your House Rep know your feelings on how they voted?

315 wrenchwench  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:55:08am

re: #292 piratedan

by rebranding, somehow I feel like our collective cattle has been rustled and these guys are trying to pass them off as their own.

Yeah, I smell burnt hair and scorched flesh, too. And bullshit.

316 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:56:59am

re: #298 Feline Fearless Leader

Not too bad. Nice day outside here in Philly (took a walk at lunch) and I am recovered from travel-caused exhaustion and sinus congestion.

Sinus Congestion! oy!

re: #300 Backwoods_Sleuth

sun is shining, the loons are still nutz, and I’m thinking about making a summer squash soup and some baked zucchini fries.

you deliver?

317 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:57:38am

re: #310 Bulworth

Today in Great Conservative Freedom Ideas

So, just about every low-wage worker in the country wouldn’t be able to vote —i.e. Walmart Employees. Walgreen’s etc?

318 wrenchwench  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:57:39am

re: #314 FemNaziBitch

Excellent!

And to everyone, did you let your House Rep know your feelings on how they voted?

I let him know on Twitter.

319 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:58:25am

re: #316 FemNaziBitch

Sinus Congestion! oy!

re: #300 Backwoods_Sleuth

you deliver?

I could send it to ya through the series of Intertubes…won’t guarantee the quality if it gets stuck in a bottleneck somewhere in between…

320 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:59:51am

re: #318 wrenchwench

I have soooo retweeted that!

321 Mattand  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:28:06am

re: #307 Backwoods_Sleuth

If I see that clip one more time of Blackburn insisting that the 20-week abortion ban will prevent more “Gosnell atrocities” I will go berserk.
Apparently, the fact that CURRENT law already prohibits “Gosnell atrocities” doesn’t enter their feeble minds…

You know what will cause the most Gosnell tragedies? Restricting and banning abortion.

322 Tigger2005  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:17:46pm

re: #78 Vicious Babushka

HALF a loaf?! That much? What are you, some kinda Communist?


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