Tea Party Rally in DC - a Total Flop, but Still Plenty of Nazi Imagery

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C-SPAN3 is broadcasting a live feed from the Teabagger hate rally now underway.

The turnout is pitiful; here’s an overhead crowd shot.

Speaking right now: Rick Morlen of the Albuquerque Tea Party group:

Also, here’s some more of that Nazi imagery they keep saying never appears at Tea Party rallies:

(Correction: it’s very similar, but Morlen’s hat isn’t a Confederate general’s hat - it’s a cavalry officer’s hat. Sorry for the confusion.)

UPDATE at 6/19/13 12:01:53 pm
UPDATE at 6/19/13 12:14:28 pm

Another Nazi reference: “Defeat Fascism… Again!”

UPDATE at 6/19/13 1:14:42 pm

More Nazi symbolism:

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590 comments
1 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:49:55am

Ta party?

2 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:49:58am
3 Bulworth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:51:37am
Also, here’s some more of that Nazi imagery they keep saying never appears at Tea Party rallies:

Obviously a libtard plant!

Speaking right now: Rick Morlen of the Albuquerque Tea Party group, wearing a Confederate General’s hat.

Another librule plant False Flag!!11!

4 Ian G.  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:51:40am

I love the Confederate imagery. Nothing says “freedom” and “patriotism” like honoring those who started a war that killed hundreds of thousands of Americans because they lost a free and fair election and were afraid they would no longer be able to keep other human beings as farm equipment.

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5 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:52:21am

These people are a blight on society.

6 GunstarGreen  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:53:17am

re: #4 Ian G.

I love the Confederate imagery. Nothing says “freedom” and “patriotism” than honoring those who started a war that killed hundreds of thousands of Americans because they lost a free and fair election and were afraid they would no longer be able to keep other human beings as farm equipment.

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It’s always kind of amused me that the clearest example we have of those fabled ‘2nd amendment remedies’ in history is an example of those people getting curbstomped.

7 calochortus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:53:57am

Even the Freepers are having a hard time working up enthusiasm. More discussion of whether the crowd is small and/or unengaged than of any of the speakers or topics.

8 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:54:20am

re: #4 Ian G.

I love the Confederate imagery. Nothing says “freedom” and “patriotism” than honoring those who started a war that killed hundreds of thousands of Americans because they lost a free and fair election and were afraid they would no longer be able to keep other human beings as farm equipment.

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Nothing says you love America like embracing the imagery of traitors who wanted to leave it because they hated freedom.

9 GunstarGreen  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:55:01am

re: #8 Kragar

Nothing says you love America like embracing the imagery of traitors who wanted to leave it because they hated freedom.

Literally hated freedom. Freedom for non-white people.

10 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:55:40am

I think I need to release my wee kittehs from their enforced seclusion in another room…the dogs can just get over it…
need. kitteh. karma.

11 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:56:29am

re: #9 GunstarGreen

Literally hated freedom. Freedom for non-white people.

I’ve come to the conclusion that “liberty” and “freedom” mean two completely different things to those people.

12 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:56:37am

There’s a sign “DON’T STOMP THE CONSTITION” but Getty Images wants money for it.

13 Bulworth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:58:38am
Speaking right now: Rick Morlen of the Albuquerque Tea Party group, wearing a Confederate General’s hat.

Is the same rally with Glenn Beck claiming the MLK mantle?

14 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:59:04am

So, its obvious why the crowd was so small.

Demons.

15 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:59:15am

Well, not a “Confederate General’s” hat. Just looks like a slouch hat with cavalry insignia (crossed sabres) and a Lt Colonel’s rank insignia (silver leaf). The CSA didn’t use that since they did officer’s rank via the collar markings* and the Union at that time I think indicated rank via the shoulder strap markings.

* - And even then they didn’t use the golf leaf/silver leaf markings for major and Lt Col. One star (large) was major; two stars was Lt Col, three stars was a Colonel. Three stars in a wreath was the collar marking for all four ranks of general.

16 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:59:23am

For accuracy, not a general, and possible not Confederate. Looks like a US Army Lieutenant Col of Air Cav. Like the “Charlie don’t surf” guy.

17 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 10:59:24am

Ridck Morlan’s tassled hat says “fucktard” better than anything that could possibly come out of his mouth

18 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:00:07am

re: #16 Decatur Deb

For accuracy, not a general, and possible not Confederate. Looks like a US Army Lieutenant Col of Air Cav. Like the “Charlie don’t surf” guy.

Yes, that’s who it reminds me of! I was trying to remember.

19 calochortus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:00:09am

re: #14 Kragar

So, its obvious why the crowd was so small.

Demons.

No, no, no. They had it on a Wed. so hard workin’ conservatives couldn’t attend. Must be liberals who set the date…

20 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:00:14am

re: #15 Feline Fearless Leader

8 seconds.

21 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:00:29am

Coming soon: “You misidentified a hat, rendering your whole argument invalid!”

22 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:00:57am

re: #21 Kragar

Coming soon: “You misidentified a hat, rendering your whole argument invalid!”

Yep. :D

23 Bulworth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:01:06am

re: #15 Feline Fearless Leader

But I’ll speculate that the dude wearing it wants it to be a confederate general’s hat.

24 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:01:30am

re: #21 Kragar

Coming soon: “You misidentified a hat, rendering your whole argument invalid!”

Without a doubt.

25 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:01:31am

re: #21 Kragar

Coming soon: “You misidentified a hat, rendering your whole argument invalid!”

Sounds familiar.

26 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:01:36am

re: #21 Kragar

Coming soon: “You misidentified a hat, rendering your whole argument invalid!”

Not saying that. But getting the hat wrong indicates incomplete or inaccurate research and shoddy checking before posting.

27 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:02:53am

Yeah not a CSA hat but whatever. It’s a terrible day for a rally in D.C. Another Tea Party snoozefest.

28 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:03:05am

re: #26 Feline Fearless Leader

Not saying that. But getting the hat wrong indicates incomplete or inaccurate research and shoddy checking before posting.

We have followers who would be happy to go there.

29 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:03:23am

Hey, Glen Beck, walk this way!

I just got back from the AudittheFed!

AudittheFed? What the AudittheFed?

Its what you suggest when your base is braindead!

30 engineer cat  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:03:33am

re: #23 Bulworth

But I’ll speculate that the dude wearing it wants it to be a confederate general’s hat.

without a doubt it’s intended to be a rull amurcan anti-libberul hat

31 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:03:45am

re: #25 FemNaziBitch

Sounds familiar.

You mean like how they like to use their knowledge of guns to totally try to distract during gun arguments? Yeah……….

32 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:04:07am

re: #15 Feline Fearless Leader

I corrected - not a general’s hat. But it’s not blue like a US cavalry hat - it’s this color:

georgiainfo.galileo.usg.edu

33 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:04:53am

re: #27 HappyWarrior

Yeah not a CSA hat but whatever. It’s a terrible day for a rally in D.C. Another Tea Party snoozefest.

Part of me hopes they don’t fade too soon. The TPs have a lot to offer before the 2016 election.

34 piratedan  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:04:59am

re: #32 Charles Johnson

ohhhh, so it’s designer traitor-wear?

35 Ian G.  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:05:03am

How about a drinking contest? A shot for every person in the crowd who is non-white, or under the age of 50! It doesn’t matter if you’re at work, as we’ll all be stone-cold sober when the contest ends.

36 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:05:32am

re: #16 Decatur Deb

For accuracy, not a general, and possible not Confederate. Looks like a US Army Lieutenant Col of Air Cav. Like the “Charlie don’t surf” guy.

Image: 249263.jpg

37 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:05:45am

re: #14 Kragar

So, its obvious why the crowd was so small.

Demons.

no phoenix…

38 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:05:52am

re: #32 Charles Johnson

I corrected - not a general’s hat. But it’s not blue like a US cavalry hat - it’s this color:

georgiainfo.galileo.usg.edu

Army Air Cav is black, see themselves as scions of GA Custer.

39 b.d.  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:06:02am

They have bigger rallies than that protesting Nigerian phone scammers yet this will be reported by mass news media.

40 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:06:02am

re: #33 Decatur Deb

Part of me hopes they don’t fade too soon. The TPs have a lot to offer before the 2016 election.

Well the good news is they still have a lot of sway in GOP primaries. Which is good because with the general voting public, they have little sway.

41 blueraven  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:06:27am

Weird…

Glendon Scott Crawford, Eric Feight Charged With Conspiracy To Provide Support To Terrorists

ALBANY, N.Y. — Federal authorities on Wednesday accused two upstate New York men of assembling a portable X-ray weapon that they intended to use to secretly sicken opponents of Israel.

Prosecutors said 49-year-old Glendon Scott Crawford, of Galway, and 54-year-old Eric J. Feight, of Hudson, have been charged with conspiracy to provide support to terrorists following a yearlong undercover investigation.

Investigators said Crawford approached Jewish organizations looking for people to help him with technology that could be used to surreptitiously deliver damaging and even lethal doses of radiation against those he considered enemies of Israel. They assembled the mobile device, which was to be controlled remotely, but it was inoperable and nobody was hurt.

42 AntonSirius  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:06:38am

re: #4 Ian G.

I love the Confederate imagery. Nothing says “freedom” and “patriotism” like honoring those who started a war that killed hundreds of thousands of Americans because they lost a free and fair election and were afraid they would no longer be able to keep other human beings as farm equipment.

/////

Now now, we shouldn’t belittle the brave sacrifice made by the thousands of New Mexicans who fought in the… hey, wait a minute…

43 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:07:02am

re: #31 HappyWarrior

You mean like how they like to use their knowledge of guns to totally try to distract during gun arguments? Yeah……….

trying to ignore the subject of the argument by focusing on the structure or flaws in the argument.

44 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:07:10am

re: #36 sattv4u2

Image: 249263.jpg

That hat’s dark blue. This one is gray.

45 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:07:48am

re: #32 Charles Johnson

I corrected - not a general’s hat. But it’s not blue like a US cavalry hat - it’s this color:

georgiainfo.galileo.usg.edu

OK. Would make more sense with this guy.

46 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:08:12am

For fun, ask a Neo-Confederate what should be done to terrorists who attack a US military base and declare they’re setting up their own country inside the US.

47 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:08:25am

re: #44 Charles Johnson

That hat’s dark blue. This one is gray.

Check this one:

Image: 5024513793_0f0bfa06dc_z.jpg

48 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:08:45am

re: #46 Kragar

For fun, ask a Neo-Confederate what should be done to terrorists who attack a US military base and declare they’re setting up their own country inside the US.

Oooh he shoots he scores

49 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:08:46am

re: #44 Charles Johnson

That hat’s dark blue. This one is gray.

I was responding to Decaturs “Charlie don’t surf” guy comment. Thats the “guy” he was referring too

50 wrenchwench  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:09:34am

Here’s Rick Morlen of Albuquerque sharing a giggle with Adam ‘Lets Take All Our Guns To DC on the Fourth of July’ Kokesh.

Image: 4398114353_8425bdef94_z.jpg

51 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:09:55am

re: #45 Gus

OK. Would make more sense with this guy.

Yea. Confederate cavalry hat (whether that is true provenance or not, that is the intention) with a US Army rank insignia added a’la Duvall’s hat in Apocalypse Now.

Hokey by about any definition.

52 Joanne  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:10:24am

re: #35 Ian G.

How about a drinking contest? A shot for every person in the crowd who is non-white, and under the age of 50! It doesn’t matter if you’re at work, as we’ll all be stone-cold sober when the contest ends.

Most of whom are reporters.

53 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:10:28am

re: #51 Feline Fearless Leader

Yea. Confederate cavalry hat (whether that is true provenance or not, that is the intention) with a US Army rank insignia added a’la Duvall’s hat in Apocalypse Now.

Hokey by about any definition.

Hokey?

I could think of another word.

54 SpaceJesus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:10:48am

Paula Dean wants black people to dress as slaves at wedding

salon.com

55 b.d.  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:10:51am

Just so you know…If you put Rick Morlen Hat into teh Google it asks you if you meant Ricky Martin Hot.

56 jaunte  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:11:15am

Modest crowd. I went to high school with more people than that.

57 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:11:51am

re: #54 SpaceJesus

Paula Dean wants black people to dress as slaves at wedding

salon.com

She’s having a hard time keeping her Type 2 Racismbetes under control.

58 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:11:55am

re: #56 jaunte

Modest crowd. I went to high school with more people than that.

Same. I think there’s 1000 tops there.

59 piratedan  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:12:02am

re: #53 FemNaziBitch

Hokey?

I could think of another word.

prop comes to mind……

60 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:12:20am
61 calochortus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:12:52am

re: #56 jaunte

Modest crowd. I went to high school with more people than that.

Oh, but that’s from hours ago-I’m sure the crowd has grown exponentially since then.

62 jaunte  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:13:22am

He really likes that hat.
newmexico.watchdog.org

63 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:13:27am

Actually it doesn’t look much like Duvall.

Image: apocalypsekilgore1.jpg

64 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:13:32am

32 WARSHIPS.

65 AntonSirius  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:13:49am

re: #51 Feline Fearless Leader

Yea. Confederate cavalry hat (whether that is true provenance or not, that is the intention) with a US Army rank insignia added a’la Duvall’s hat in Apocalypse Now.

Hokey by about any definition.

From a Rotary bio of Morlen:

Raised in Southern Illinois, Rick Morlen attended the United States Military Academy at West Point, graduating in 1979. He served in the Army as a Helicopter Pilot at several levels of Command.

So Air Cav seems about right.

66 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:14:08am

Crowd gets overestimated by the thousands by Dim Jim, which makes the prevalence of these images and CSA nostalgia-wear even more remarkable. It’s a far greater percentage of the crowd that has no problem with these images and CSA nostalgia-wear.

Can’t keep claiming that these folks are a minority or are plants when they keep showing up and are an ever-present fixture at these kinds of events.

67 jaunte  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:14:16am
“The Tea Party,” adds Rick Morlen, a surgeon and ATP Board member, “gives people a vehicle they didn’t have before in either the Democrat or Republican parties.”
newmexico.watchdog.org

I call it Crazy Train!

68 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:14:24am

WTF IS THIS? from my fb

69 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:14:39am

re: #65 AntonSirius

From a Rotary bio of Morlen:

So Air Cav seems about right.

Yeah it does. Didn’t think it was CSA but the links to the Nazi imagery still prove Charles’ broad point.

70 Skip Intro  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:14:48am

If Teabaggers couldn’t dress up as Confederates and Nazis what would be the point?

71 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:15:02am

This is a veitnam-era Air Cavalry hat.

Image: Johnc-1.jpg

Also in grey.

72 b.d.  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:15:11am

There are more people here talking about that guy’s hat than there are at that rally.

73 AntonSirius  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:15:12am

re: #69 HappyWarrior

Yeah it does. Didn’t think it was CSA but the links to the Nazi imagery still prove Charles’ broad point.

Oh, not disputing that. Just trying to figure out the hat itself.

74 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:15:29am

re: #62 jaunte

He really likes that hat.
newmexico.watchdog.org

That hat is definitely Confederate gray.

75 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:15:44am

Are there more pictures of the rally?

76 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:16:06am

re: #73 AntonSirius

Oh, not disputing that. Just trying to figure out the hat itself.

Nah I know you know that. Good research finding out that the dude is a former helicopter pilot in the military.

77 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:16:13am

DERP

78 Bulworth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:16:15am

re: #62 jaunte

Charlotte Salazar is a mother of four, now expecting her fifth child. She stands barely above five feet tall and has the looks of a college age student. She is not a professional politician or organizer, but a working mother who became alarmed at the turn she saw her country taking in early 2009. She hit the airwaves on KKOB 770 AM, KIVA AM 1550 and other local radio stations.

“…early 2009.” Yeah, right after we inaugurated a black fella.

//

79 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:17:09am

I don’t feel like working today.

80 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:17:32am

re: #77 Vicious Babushka

DERP

Never mind the fact that story went down in flames bigger than the Hindenburg.

81 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:17:52am

re: #68 FemNaziBitch

WTF IS THIS? from my fb

YIKES!

82 Bulworth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:18:28am

re: #67 jaunte

“The Tea Party,” adds Rick Morlen, a surgeon and ATP Board member, “gives people a vehicle they didn’t have before in either the Democrat or Republican parties with the original John Birch Society being discredited.”

slightly modified

83 calochortus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:18:36am

re: #80 Kragar

Never mind the fact that story went down in flames bigger than the Hindenburg.

Yeah, but sometimes fiction reveals a larger truth

84 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:18:58am

re: #79 Gus

I don’t feel like working today.

And that’s different from other days ,,,, how !?!?!
/

85 AntonSirius  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:19:01am

re: #76 HappyWarrior

Nah I know you know that. Good research finding out that the dude is a former helicopter pilot in the military.

We honour his service, and decry his derpitude.

86 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:19:24am

OK - since there’s some reasonable doubt, I’ve removed the part about the Confederate hat.

87 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:19:27am

re: #69 HappyWarrior

Yeah it does. Didn’t think it was CSA but the links to the Nazi imagery still prove Charles’ broad point.

Yeah, the people muttering about secession seem pretty highly ideologically linked to the CSA.

88 darthstar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:19:28am

Kids…they’re fuckin’ killers.


Americans hate terrorists and love our kids, right? So you might be shocked to know that preschoolers with guns have taken more lives so far this year than the single U.S. terrorist attack, which claimed four lives in Boston.

This is admittedly tongue-in-cheek, but one has to wonder if the NSA’s PRISM program would have saved more lives had it been monitoring toddlers - or gun owners - rather than suspected terrorists.

11 Deaths in Five Months Where Shooter Was 3 to 6 Years Old

89 Bulworth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:19:44am

re: #80 Kragar

It lives on forever in the land of teaparty where Social Security checks keep them fed but other Muricans who get aid are deadbeats and welfare slaves.
//

90 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:19:45am

re: #82 Bulworth

slightly modified

Yeah because there were no movements that were outside the two major parties before the Tea Party and acting like the Tea Party is somehow independent of the Republicans when they always support Republicans over Dems in GE is a joke.

91 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:20:08am

re: #87 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Yeah, the people muttering about secession seem pretty highly ideologically linked to the CSA.

Yep.

92 jaunte  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:20:32am

Just call it a hat that doesn’t fit.

93 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:20:43am

re: #85 AntonSirius

We honour his service, and decry his derpitude.

Yep.

94 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:20:52am

re: #74 Charles Johnson

I found a grey Vietnam-era one. It’s tough to tell stuff like this because A) the Confederates didn’t invent whole new uniforms and B) the military has a big Southern component in it and has for a long time, so I assume they’ve had input on fashion choices and C) there’s so many fakes and phonies and homages to Confederate crap around.

95 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:21:13am

re: #92 jaunte

Just call it a hat that doesn’t fit.

Your hat’s on too tight!

96 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:21:41am

re: #84 sattv4u2

And that’s different from other days ,,,, how !?!?!
/

I blame Little Rascals.

98 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:22:56am

re: #96 Gus

I blame Little Rascals.

Joined the He Man Women Haters Club, didjya!

99 aagcobb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:24:51am

re: #39 b.d.

They have bigger rallies than that protesting Nigerian phone scammers yet this will be reported by mass news media.

There are at least ten million real Americans at this patriotic rally, and Fox News will broadcast the footage to prove it!//

100 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:25:45am

re: #99 aagcobb

There are at least ten million real Americans at this patriotic rally, and Fox News will broadcast the footage to prove it!//

Will that be accompanied by Glenn Beck saying that the historical significance of this rally mirrors that of the March on Washington?

101 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:26:21am
A Woman Virtually Nobody Has Heard Of Is On The Verge Of Becoming The Most Powerful Woman In The World

Read more: businessinsider.com

102 SpaceJesus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:26:33am

why is he wearing that hat

103 AntonSirius  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:26:54am

re: #95 Gus

Your hat’s on too tight!

He’s all hat, no scandal.

104 jaunte  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:27:10am

re: #102 SpaceJesus

He’s concerned about his receding heritage.

105 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:27:11am

re: #102 SpaceJesus

He wants you to be impressed by it.

106 A Mom Anon  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:27:37am

Here’s a link to a fine upstanding American here in GA. This is the guy I’ve mentioned here before, with pictures of lynchings visible through the front window of his store and the entry sign that says White History Year. (warning, annoying music starts playing when you open the page, turn the sound off or down)

yep,a really nice guy

107 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:27:52am
4. The federal budget is bracing itself for a burst of elderly Americans that will have to be supported by younger people in the workforce. The fact that the foreign-born population skews younger than the native-born population could prove to be a respite for government entitlement programs.

Read more: businessinsider.com

108 SpaceJesus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:27:55am

re: #105 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

oh. hm.

109 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:28:15am

GOP Rep Suggests Classes To Teach Kids About Gender Roles

Rep. Phil Gingrey (R-GA) suggested Tuesday that young boys and girls should be enrolled in classes to educate them on gender roles so that they can learn “what’s important.”

“Maybe part of the problem is we need to go back into the schools at a very early age, maybe at the grade school level, and have a class for the young girls and have a class for the young boys and say, you know, this is what’s important,” Gingrey said on the House floor, while defending the Defense of Marriage Act.

He went on: “This is what a father does that is may be a little different, maybe — maybe a little different, maybe a little better than the talent that mom has in a certain area and same things for the young girls, you know, this is what a mom does and this is what’s important from the standpoint of that union. Which we call marriage. And we have called that since the beginning of this country and long before the beginning of this country.”

Fuck you Phil.

110 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:28:17am

re: #102 SpaceJesus

why is he wearing that hat

No foreskin.

111 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:28:27am
112 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:28:41am
113 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:29:02am
114 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:30:26am

I am underwhelmed by the signage at this rally. A couple of IRSS signs and one “Don’t Stomp The Constition”

115 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:30:30am

re: #113 Charles Johnson

You mean besides the one where the Tea Party calls everyone Nazis?

116 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:30:53am

Stop the Gynoticians

117 Lidane  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:30:58am

Speaking of the teabaggers, this sounds like something up their alley:

‘Spanking for Jesus’ Is Exactly as Fucked Up as It Sounds

Christian Domestic Discipline, or CDD as its adherents call it, is a movement that seeks to carry out God’s will. Which specific plan of God’s? Oh, you know, just that all women obey their husbands fastidiously — a dynamic that CDD thinks is best maintained through doling out out corporal punishments. Its few thousand practitioners, however, claim that it’s not domestic abuse.

The Christian Domestic Discipline Yahoo! group, which is private, opens with a quote from Hebrews 12:11: “No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it.” And, whom are we to train into righteousness and peace? Women only (duh)! The group’s description goes on to say, “We offer a LOVING approach to all who wish to learn and grow in a traditional Male, head of household, female submissive, Christian Domestic Discipline relationship.”

Now, I’m all for some good, consensual kink between couples. Let your freak flag fly as long as everyone’s on board with the idea, IMO. But there’s no way you can tell me that this is anything but abuse wrapped up in religion.

118 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:31:01am

re: #112 Charles Johnson

Who has ever accused them of doing such a thing? If anything the Tea Party should be accused of minimizing the Nazis when they hold up signs that suggest that IRS’ actions are akin to the Nazis.

119 darthstar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:31:15am

re: #97 Vicious Babushka

Found a FReeper’s Twitter feed with photos of the rally.

Wow…turds really do float to the top.

120 Mattand  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:31:33am

re: #54 SpaceJesus

Paula Dean wants black people to dress as slaves at wedding

salon.com

Their source is the National Enquirer. Call me old-fashioned, but I’ll wait for a more reputable source.

121 Ian G.  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:32:16am

re: #111 Charles Johnson

IRS are just like the Nazis. I’ve been hiding a Jewish family in my attic after my neighborhood was ransacked by IRS agents who rounded up all the Jews and sent them to the gas chambers.

Derp.

122 dragonath  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:32:19am

re: #119 darthstar

Wow…turds really do float to the top.

Medicine show.

123 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:32:30am

re: #109 Kragar

GOP Rep Suggests Classes To Teach Kids About Gender Roles

Fuck you Phil.

Is there a part in Gingrey’s class where you apologize to Rush Limbaugh for being a bad little conservative because he knows all about that.

124 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:32:33am

re: #120 Mattand

Their source is the National Enquirer. Call me old-fashioned, but I’ll wait for a more reputable source.

Sadly, the Enquirer has a better reputation than many MSM.

125 darthstar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:32:45am

re: #97 Vicious Babushka

Wow…what a diverse crowd! Anglos and Saxons!

126 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:32:47am

re: #117 Lidane

Speaking of the teabaggers, this sounds like something up their alley:

‘Spanking for Jesus’ Is Exactly as Fucked Up as It Sounds

Now, I’m all for some good, consensual kink between couples. Let your freak flag fly as long as everyone’s on board with the idea, IMO. But there’s no way you can tell me that this is anything but abuse wrapped up in religion.

That’s been around for a while, I think it is a parody site, not an actual Christian movement. Poe’s Law in effect.

127 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:32:52am

re: #114 Vicious Babushka

I am underwhelmed by the signage at this rally. A couple of IRSS signs and one “Don’t Stomp The Constition”

I’ve seen things you people wouldn’t believe. Pink tanks off the shoulder of Orion. I watched giant paper mache heads in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time…

128 b.d.  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:33:15am

re: #119 darthstar

Has Beck cried yet?

btw, I thought he apologized for all of his over-the-top bs?

129 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:33:50am

re: #121 Ian G.

IRS are just like the Nazis. I’ve been hiding a Jewish family 1%’er in my attic after my neighborhood was ransacked by IRS agents who rounded up all the Jews 1%’ers and sent them to the gas chambers.

Derp.

Remember who is Teh New Juice!

130 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:34:03am

WSJ editorial writer: Military sexual assault reports are part of ‘war on men’

Tell me again, who owns the WSJ?

131 blueraven  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:34:10am

re: #120 Mattand

Their source is the National Enquirer. Call me old-fashioned, but I’ll wait for a more reputable source.

Yeah, me too. While I wouldn’t doubt this is true, I need a better source. The same issue has a story about Hillary’s secret affairs.

132 aagcobb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:34:13am

re: #100 HappyWarrior

Will that be accompanied by Glenn Beck saying that the historical significance of this rally mirrors that of the March on Washington?

Oh, its much, much more important than that.////

133 A Mom Anon  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:34:19am

re: #119 darthstar

Isn’t he supposed to be at work? I swear, only CEOs and think tank geniuses get paid more to do less. Meanwhile good people who actually work hard struggle to figure out how to pay their bills.

Karma sucks, it doesn’t work fast enough. Fuckers.

134 AntonSirius  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:34:45am

re: #120 Mattand

Their source is the National Enquirer. Call me old-fashioned, but I’ll wait for a more reputable source.

You mean like the Guardian?

Or CNN?

135 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:35:01am

re: #130 FemNaziBitch

WSJ editorial writer: Military sexual assault reports are part of ‘war on men’

Tell me again, who owns the WSJ?

A guy divorcing his wife.

136 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:35:10am

re: #130 FemNaziBitch

WSJ editorial writer: Military sexual assault reports are part of ‘war on men’

Tell me again, who owns the WSJ?

Yeah I saw that. Yet another reason for me not to read or take the WSJ seriously when they print fucking bullshit like that.

137 AntonSirius  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:35:41am

re: #125 darthstar

Wow…what a diverse crowd! Anglos and Saxons!

And they’re playing both kinds of music! Country AND western!

138 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:36:41am

re: #137 AntonSirius

And they’re playing both kinds of music! Country AND western!

Do you think they’ll be really bold and include both Baptists and Methodists?

139 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:36:42am

re: #125 darthstar

Wow…what a diverse crowd! Anglos and Saxons!

they are probably fans of both kinds of music…

140 aagcobb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:37:25am

re: #101 FemNaziBitch

Read more: businessinsider.com

This is good news. We need someone committed to economic growth leading the Fed.

141 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:37:40am

re: #128 b.d.

Has Beck cried yet?

btw, I thought he apologized for all of his over-the-top bs?

And his voice must have come back while I was gone over the weekend.
///

142 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:38:06am

Dog Food Recalls --FDA Press Release

143 Bulworth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:38:17am

Yeah the teabag party gets to call everone else nazis and fascists and communistmarxists radical islamicists but no one can say anything about them without causing massive butthurt.

144 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:38:19am

Rick Wiles has declared the latest threat to Christian America is…

GLEN BECK!

Glenn Beck Is Luring Christians Into Islamo-Mormon Deistic Universalism

Yesterday’s TruNews radio broadcast with Rick Wiles was entirely dedicated to an interview with right-wing anti-Islam activist Walid Shoebat and his son Theodore during which the three of them attacked … Glenn Beck!

That’s right, according to the Shoebats, Beck is a practitioner of “Chrislam,” meaning that he is luring his viewers away from true Christianity and into a dangerous Islamo-Mormon deistic universalism with the help of Religious Right leaders such as James Robison, Franklin Graham, and David Barton.

As Theodore explained, Joseph Smith, the founder of the Church of Latter-Day Saints, considered himself to be a second Muhammad, which is why, Walid said, LDS members will not proselytize to Muslims since “basically they have the same faith”:

145 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:38:35am

re: #125 darthstar

Wow…what a diverse crowd! Anglos and Saxons!

Where are the Jutes though?

146 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:38:52am

re: #140 aagcobb

This is good news. We need someone committed to economic growth leading the Fed.

Me thinks Obama is stacking the deck for 2014 and 2016. He has done a good job of appointing women to key positions.

147 Bulworth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:39:14am

Isn’t Beck supposed to be broke? How’d he get to this rally anyway?

148 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:39:14am

re: #145 Feline Fearless Leader

Where are the Jutes though?

the Picts?

149 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:39:39am

re: #148 FemNaziBitch

the Picts?

They have the blues.

150 aagcobb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:40:27am

re: #120 Mattand

Their source is the National Enquirer. Call me old-fashioned, but I’ll wait for a more reputable source.

To be fair, they were on top of the John Edwards sex scandal when no-one else was.

151 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:40:37am

re: #148 FemNaziBitch

the Picts?

No Belgae?

152 Mattand  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:40:52am

re: #131 blueraven

Yeah, me too. While I wouldn’t doubt this is true, I need a better source. The same issue has a story about Hillary’s secret affairs.

Over at Pharyngula, Myers and the horde were blowing a gasket over a report that Sarah Palin’s kid got a called a “retard” by Bill Maher at a Las Vegas gig.

The single source? I shit you not, Breitbart.com. One of their “reporters” went to the show.

It’s more than likely that Maher did something that nasty. However, the fact that most of the commenters were looking the other way at the source of the report is mind-boggling.

Whatever fits your narrative, I guess…

153 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:41:04am

re: #151 Kragar

No Belgae?

I’ll clue you in, The Germanic Barbarians sack Rome.

154 Bulworth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:41:11am

re: #144 Kragar

Universalism!!!! Real Patriot Christian Muricans hatehatehate universalism and universalists.

155 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:41:26am

re: #144 Kragar

Rick Wiles has declared the latest threat to Christian America is…

GLEN BECK!

Glenn Beck Is Luring Christians Into Islamo-Mormon Deistic Universalism

This is most hilarious. Goes to show you that even if you’re a nut like Beck, there will be someone there saying “I’m more nuts than you are” in the right.

156 Mattand  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:41:50am

re: #150 aagcobb

To be fair, they were on top of the John Edwards sex scandal when no-one else was.

Eh, broken clocks rule, at best.

157 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:41:54am

re: #102 SpaceJesus

why is he wearing that hat

In any organization where playing dress-up is part of the usual ceremonial decorum, the guy with the biggest, stupidest hat is the guy in charge.

158 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:42:01am
159 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:42:11am

re: #147 Bulworth

Isn’t Beck supposed to be broke? How’d he get to this rally anyway?

Bake sale. You try telling a crying middle aged man that you won’t buy his brownies that he and his mommy baked himself so he could go to Washington.

160 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:42:31am

re: #152 Mattand

Over at Pharyngula, Myers and the horde were blowing a gasket over a report that Sarah Palin’s kid got a called a “retard” by Bill Maher at a Las Vegas gig.

The single source? I shit you not, Breitbart.com. One of their “reporters” went to the show.

It’s more than likely that Maher did something that nasty. However, the fact that most of the commenters were looking the other way at the source of the report is mind-boggling.

Whatever fits your narrative, I guess…

Well, considering the persistence of spreading false science based on one obscure reference from 1972, nothing suprises me. See the Comments section.

161 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:42:43am

re: #158 Charles Johnson

Like Todd Akin’s biggest apologist Dana?

162 Mattand  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:42:46am

re: #147 Bulworth

Isn’t Beck supposed to be broke? How’d he get to this rally anyway?

Say what now? First I heard of that.

163 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:43:17am

re: #159 HappyWarrior

Bake sale. You try telling a crying middle aged man that you won’t buy his brownies that he and his mommy baked himself so he could go to Washington.

He must have put something in the brownies to collect enough to go to D.C.

:0

164 Bulworth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:43:37am

re: #155 HappyWarrior

That’s the problem with pure derp. The quest for it never stops. Eventually it turns inward, convinced everyone’s not pure enough, that even most of the “in-group” is guilty of holding at least one slightly unorthodox belief.

165 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:44:00am

re: #158 Charles Johnson

Whut???

166 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:44:10am

re: #163 FemNaziBitch

He must have put something in the brownies to collect enough to go to D.C.

:0

He does claim to be a “libertarian” and for pot legalization so maybe Alice Toklas’ old recipe helped him out.

167 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:44:25am

re: #158 Charles Johnson

Did she piss on the White House lawn yet?

168 Bulworth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:44:53am

re: #162 Mattand

Another thread a few days ago, Beck was bitching to his followers about how he’d laid everything he had out for The Cause because he had Belief.

169 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:45:06am

re: #164 Bulworth

That’s the problem with pure derp. The quest for it never stops. Eventually it turns inward, convinced everyone’s not pure enough, that even most of the “in-group” is guilty of holding at least one slightly unorthodox belief.

To rephrase a wise man named Sinatra, the derp is yet to come. I mean I look at a guy like Grover Norquist who quote on quote wants to drown the government in a bathtub and he’s suspect simply because he has a Muslim wife and a beard too!

170 aagcobb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:47:00am

re: #169 HappyWarrior

To rephrase a wise man named Sinatra, the derp is yet to come. I mean I look at a guy like Grover Norquist who quote on quote wants to drown the government in a bathtub and he’s suspect simply because he has a Muslim wife and a beard too!

The Beck-Norquist-Obama conspiracy to bring Global Jihad to America; you heard it here first!

171 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:47:40am

re: #170 aagcobb

The Beck-Norquist-Obama conspiracy to bring Global Jihad to America; you heard it here first!

So Beck’s anti Obama rants are just a cover for his true love of Obama and Jihad!

172 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:47:43am

re: #170 aagcobb

The Beck-Norquist-Obama conspiracy to bring Global Jihad to America; you heard it here first!

And Alex Jones is a NSA plant to distract you from noticing it!

173 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:48:27am

re: #172 Kragar

And Alex Jones is a NSA plant to distract you from noticing it!

Rush Limbaugh is really William Ayers in a fatsuit.

174 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:49:05am

re: #173 HappyWarrior

Rush Limbaugh is really William Ayers in a fatsuit.

And Rick Perry is the mastermind behind it all!

175 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:49:05am

re: #169 HappyWarrior

To rephrase a wise man named Sinatra, the derp is yet to come. I mean I look at a guy like Grover Norquist who quote on quote wants to drown the government in a bathtub and he’s suspect simply because he has a Muslim wife and a beard too!

It is turning into a bottomless spiral and a race to show who can be the most outrageous and ideologically pure at the same time.

and yes, see what they do to their own, remember how they turned on AZ governor Jan Brewer, the woman who shook her finger at obama and gave us SB 1070, for accepting ACA Medicaid funding for all the elderly and underpaid in Arizona

176 jaunte  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:49:35am

It’s a Wall of Auditors!

177 Mattand  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:50:12am

re: #160 FemNaziBitch

Well, considering the persistence of spreading false science based on one obscure reference from 1972, nothing suprises me. See the Comments section.

Christ almighty. WTF do Republicans have to do so their supporters will say, “You know, you guys are insane”?

178 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:50:33am

re: #176 jaunte

It’s a Wall of Auditors!

Uh what Ted?

179 jaunte  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:51:15am

re: #178 HappyWarrior

“IRS-verb-Border!”

180 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:51:28am
181 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:51:59am

re: #158 Charles Johnson

Ah, quoting MIB. Good movie, but misplaced at a rally complaining about the IRS.

Especially when all the actual evidence shows absolutely no connection between the investigation into TP entity status and the WH.

182 jaunte  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:52:06am

The political messaging is getting so simplified it’ll soon be down to grunts and clicks.

183 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:52:32am

re: #180 Vicious Babushka

This is a good find. Much thanks.

184 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:52:51am

re: #174 Kragar

No. Charles is. From under the DIA. Get your conspiracies straight. /

185 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:53:34am

re: #177 Mattand

Christ almighty. WTF do Republicans have to do so their supporters will say, “You know, you guys are insane”?

Well your governor did declare himself a Cowboys fan in a state filled with Eagles/Giants/Jets fans. I thought that was pretty insane.

186 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:53:53am

Steve King: Secret income is ‘part of freedom’

Rep. Steve King (R-IA) on Wednesday told a tea party rally that the Internal Revenue Service should be abolished because keeping income secret from the federal government was “part of freedom.”

“You know, the IRS audited me one too many years in a row,” King explained at a Tea Party Patriots rally in Washington D.C. “And I wondered, ‘Why are they in my kitchen, why are they looking through my books, why are they asking me these Monday morning quarterback questions?’ And I went back out and climbed back into the seat of my old bulldozer and the smoke went out the exhaust stack and my ears. And I thought, ‘I’d like to get rid of the IRS.’”

“I don’t need them poking through my books, I don’t need them telling my pastor or my priest what he’s going to be able to preach from the pulpit,” he continued. “In fact, it’s not even the government’s business how much money you make. That’s a part of freedom.”

187 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:55:03am
188 Mattand  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:55:03am

re: #185 HappyWarrior

Well your governor did declare himself a Cowboys fan in a state filled with Eagles/Giants/Jets fans. I thought that was pretty insane.

No shit! I completely missed that one!

I’m guessing his 2016 POTUS slogan will be: “Vote for Christie. He pisses off everyone!”

189 teleskiguy  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:55:16am

Tea bag spelling in action!

190 Bulworth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:55:22am

re: #186 Kragar

derp

191 jaunte  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:56:06am

Meanwhile on the domestic terrorism news front:

Alleged N.Y. KKK Member Accused Of Creating Truck-Mounted Radiation Device

Federal prosecutors announced Wednesday they had charged an alleged member of the Ku Klux Klan who worked as an industrial mechanic for General Electric Co. with designing a remote-controlled, truck-mounted device that could silently beam lethal doses of radiation at human targets, according to the Albany Times Union.

192 erik_t  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:56:09am

re: #189 teleskiguy

Tea bag spelling in action!

I’ve never seen a more intimidatable group of people in my life. They’re intimidated by the mold on their week-old loaf of bread.

193 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:56:58am

What an unfortunate first name Mr. Innis has.

194 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:57:02am

re: #149 Feline Fearless Leader

They have the blues.

Woad unto them…

195 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:57:38am

re: #191 jaunte

Meanwhile on the domestic terrorism news front:

Alleged N.Y. KKK Member Accused Of Creating Truck-Mounted Radiation Device

Paged that already.

196 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:58:14am

re: #97 Vicious Babushka

Found a FReeper’s Twitter feed with photos of the rally.

bwahahahaaaa!

“Throng”

197 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:58:30am

re: #186 Kragar

Steve King: Secret income is ‘part of freedom’

Unless the GOP learns to distance itself from idiots like that, the USA will become ungovernable within a generation…that is straight out Sovereign Citizen talk…secret income, secret arsenals, secret societies with Star Chambers…

198 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:59:10am

re: #196 Backwoods_Sleuth

bwahahahaaaa!

“Throng”

Throng? There were more people at the late fall and very wet Occupy DC rally I checked out two years ago.

199 I Am Kreniigh!  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:59:35am

Ehhh… I may get yelled at for this, but Confederate cosplay is sufficiently different from calling your enemies Nazis that lumping them together as “the imagery that was used at the rallies” just dilutes what you’re saying.

It gives the pro-rally people a quick, easy, and potentially convincing rebuttal (as seen above) because it seems to imply that ralliers were dressing up like Nazis. (Interesting that this is an easier mistake to make than if they were accused of using witch doctor or Communist imagery…) I mean, I know what you mean, but I think rhetorically it’s a misstep.

200 Joanne  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:59:56am

re: #54 SpaceJesus

Paula Dean wants black people to dress as slaves at wedding

salon.com

#paulasbestdishes

Twitter not being kind to Pao-la.

201 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:00:02pm
202 calochortus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:00:11pm

re: #197 Sol Berdinowitz

Unless the GOP learns to distance itself from idiots like that, the USA will become ungovernable within a generation…that is straight out Sovereign Citizen talk…secret income, secret arsenals, secret societies with Star Chambers…

I daresay his secret income comes in the form of illegal activities which he naturally doesn’t want to have to reveal…

203 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:00:16pm

re: #197 Sol Berdinowitz

Secret income is part of freedom? That’s why the IRS and the courts have consistently ruled that all those kinds of arguments are baseless and will frequently constitute frivolous defenses subject to additional penalties and fees.

204 Skip Intro  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:00:26pm

re: #196 Backwoods_Sleuth

bwahahahaaaa!

“Throng”

Freepers can only dream of having such a crowd. The last time they tried a big rally, fewer than two dozen people showed up. I wish I still had the pictures.

205 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:01:01pm

Dim Jim is stylin’ in that Breitbart shirt!

206 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:01:06pm

re: #203 lawhawk

Secret income is part of freedom? That’s why the IRS and the courts have consistently ruled that all those kinds of arguments are baseless and will frequently constitute frivolous defenses subject to additional penalties and fees.

Secret income sounds a lot like “I don’t want to have to pay my fair share.”

207 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:01:06pm

Most Minnesota Story Ever: Mother & Son Steal $5K Worth of Gopher Feet

208 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:02:10pm

Well I wikied Niger Innis. He’s part of an organization that advocates the banning of same sex marriage. Yeah you guys are really the heirs to the civil rights movement there Tea Party.

209 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:02:26pm

re: #206 Feline Fearless Leader

Secret income sounds a lot like “I don’t want to have to pay my fair share.”

“I, as a sovereign citizen, get to determine what my fiar share is and whether or not I have to pay it…”

210 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:02:52pm

re: #181 lawhawk

Ah, quoting MIB. Good movie, but misplaced at a rally complaining about the IRS.

Especially when all the actual evidence shows absolutely no connection between the investigation into TP entity status and the WH.

MIB -quote

211 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:03:06pm

re: #180 Vicious Babushka

on my fb

212 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:03:33pm
213 EPR-radar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:04:00pm

re: #197 Sol Berdinowitz

Unless the GOP learns to distance itself from idiots like that, the USA will become ungovernable within a generation…that is straight out Sovereign Citizen talk…secret income, secret arsenals, secret societies with Star Chambers…

I agree that the GOP is doing its best to make the US ungovernable. E.g., the debt ceiling debacle.

There is also no apparent path by which the GOP could become more sane. In the past, parties have gotten the message when they lose a presidential race by a 45+ state blowout. That can’t happen these days. Any GOP candidate (or any Dem candidate) starts with well over 100 electoral votes that simply have no chance of going to the other party.

214 erik_t  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:04:20pm

I’ll bet a nickel that a quarter of those in attendance are reporters.

215 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:04:59pm

re: #192 erik_t

I’ve never seen a more intimidatable group of people in my life. They’re intimidated by the mold on their week-old loaf of bread.

Image: maxresdefault.jpg

216 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:05:19pm

re: #180 Vicious Babushka

217 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:06:15pm

re: #212 Charles Johnson

“Don’t derp on me.”

218 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:07:30pm

re: #213 EPR-radar

There is also no apparent path by which the GOP could become more sane. In the past, parties have gotten the message when they lose a presidential race by a 45+ state blowout. That can’t happen these days. Any GOP candidate (or any Dem candidate) starts with well over 100 electoral votes that simply have no chance of going to the other party.

They are very strong at a state and local level, and that support does show itself through gerrymandering in the form of electoral votes and congressional seats.

I just wish there was a way to ensure that they will not be able to succeed at a national level.

219 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:08:38pm

re: #213 EPR-radar

I agree that the GOP is doing its best to make the US ungovernable. E.g., the debt ceiling debacle.

There is also no apparent path by which the GOP could become more sane. In the past, parties have gotten the message when they lose a presidential race by a 45+ state blowout. That can’t happen these days. Any GOP candidate (or any Dem candidate) starts with well over 100 electoral votes that simply have no chance of going to the other party.

Most of them are against this government, but a driving minority is anti-governance. Triggered by some idiot who said: “Government isn’t the solution, government is the problem”.

220 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:08:38pm
221 Lidane  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:09:10pm

re: #4 Ian G.

I love the Confederate imagery. Nothing says “freedom” and “patriotism” like honoring those who started a war that killed hundreds of thousands of Americans because they lost a free and fair election and were afraid they would no longer be able to keep other human beings as farm equipment.

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States’ Rights!

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222 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:09:30pm

Way I look at it is that each party seems like it will get 45% of the vote in a GE. It’s the remaining ten percent that shows who wins. The changing demographics show to me that the GOP will have a hard time getting a majority of that ten percent. On the other hand, they’re doing just enough to convince themselves that their message isn’t the problem despite only really being the majority party for Whites, Males, and Protestants.

223 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:09:44pm

re: #218 Sol Berdinowitz

They are very strong at a state and local level, and that support does show itself through gerrymandering in the form of electoral votes and congressional seats.

I just wish there was a way to ensure that they will not be able to succeed at a national level.

Donate, volunteer, GOTV. (And blog.)

224 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:09:52pm

re: #219 Decatur Deb

Most of them are against this government, but a driving minority is anti-governance. Triggered by some idiot who said: “Government isn’t the solution, government is the problem”.

I’m wondering who the true Anarchists are? Or is it just that they don’t want FEDERAL government. They want to have their own little fiefdoms? (shades of Arpaio?)

225 b.d.  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:10:28pm

re: #212 Charles Johnson

lol

Matthew Boyle@mboyle1
Rep. Raul Labrador now calling for Eric Holder to resign again!

That merits only one exclamation mark Matt?

226 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:10:49pm

re: #224 FemNaziBitch

I’m wondering who the true Anarchists are? Or is it just that they don’t want FEDERAL government. They want to have their own little fiefdoms? (shades of Arpaio?)

It’s just greed. They’re fine with federal power (look at that recent abortion ban that passed the House) but they have a problem with the federal government actually being used to help people i.e. ACA.

227 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:11:53pm

re: #223 Decatur Deb

Donate, volunteer, GOTV. (And blog.)

Since people (the Whackos) know I an a volunteer advocate, they don’t try to rag on me about my “liberal” stance.

When you put your time where your mouth is, people tend to look at themselves and see they aren’t. Makes them shut-up.

228 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:12:03pm

re: #224 FemNaziBitch

I’m wondering who the true Anarchists are? Or is it just that they don’t want FEDERAL government. They want to have their own little fiefdoms? (shades of Arpaio?)

Nah, because the rot goes all the way down though levels of government until the sovereign citizen shoots the sheriff’s deputy.

229 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:12:41pm

@DRUDGE_REPORT: President makes ‘alarming call for end to Catholic education’… drudge.tw

The link isn’t to an actual news report, but an op-ed masquerading as news. Taking the President’s statements in Northern Ireland out of context (shocking, I know), and calling on the Irish to put down their prejudices, which get perpetuated by a separate but equal education system where the Catholics have their schools, the Protestants have theirs, and there’s no mixing or middle ground. End the separation, begin integrating the schools, and the old prejudices will begin to go away.

It will take time, especially if our own civil rights record is any indication.

But some folks not only seem interested in setting back civil rights, but are hoping for a wholesale reversal of all that’s been achieved since the start of the modern civil rights movement.

230 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:12:48pm

re: #228 Decatur Deb

Nah, because the rot goes all the way down though levels of government until the sovereign citizen shoots the sheriff’s deputy.

every time I plant a seed he said kill it it before it grows…

231 aagcobb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:13:29pm

re: #213 EPR-radar

I agree that the GOP is doing its best to make the US ungovernable. E.g., the debt ceiling debacle.

There is also no apparent path by which the GOP could become more sane. In the past, parties have gotten the message when they lose a presidential race by a 45+ state blowout. That can’t happen these days. Any GOP candidate (or any Dem candidate) starts with well over 100 electoral votes that simply have no chance of going to the other party.

That will change when Texas turns blue in about a decade.

232 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:13:37pm
233 aagcobb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:14:58pm

re: #222 HappyWarrior

Way I look at it is that each party seems like it will get 45% of the vote in a GE. It’s the remaining ten percent that shows who wins. The changing demographics show to me that the GOP will have a hard time getting a majority of that ten percent. On the other hand, they’re doing just enough to convince themselves that their message isn’t the problem despite only really being the majority party for Whites, Males, and Protestants.

The College Republican report should’ve been a major wake-up call.

234 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:15:11pm

“Defeat Fascism… Again!”

235 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:15:14pm

re: #229 lawhawk

@DRUDGE_REPORT: President makes ‘alarming call for end to Catholic education’… drudge.tw

The link isn’t to an actual news report, but an op-ed masquerading as news. Taking the President’s statements in Northern Ireland out of context (shocking, I know), and calling on the Irish to put down their prejudices, which get perpetuated by a separate but equal education system where the Catholics have their schools, the Protestants have theirs, and there’s no mixing or middle ground. End the separation, begin integrating the schools, and the old prejudices will begin to go away.

It will take time, especially if our own civil rights record is any indication.

But some folks not only seem interested in setting back civil rights, but are hoping for a wholesale reversal of all that’s been achieved since the start of the modern civil rights movement.

Drudge being Drudge I see ignored the fact that he called Protestant sectarianism too. He’s absolutely right by the way. Non-demonational schools will get Northern Irish kids realizing they have more in common then they don’t. But of course that gets away in Drudge’s agenda and stupid alarm siren.

236 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:15:59pm

re: #230 Sol Berdinowitz

every time I plant a seed he said killt it before it grows…

Youtube Video

237 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:16:17pm
238 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:16:20pm

re: #226 HappyWarrior

It’s just greed. They’re fine with federal power (look at that recent abortion ban that passed the House) but they have a problem with the federal government actually being used to help people i.e. ACA.

Oh yeah, no feeding the Parasites …

how could I forget?

239 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:16:28pm

re: #231 aagcobb

That will change when Texas turns blue in about a decade.

Pessimist.

240 EPR-radar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:16:41pm

re: #229 lawhawk

Yes indeed. The neo-confederates within the GOP are getting tired of farting around with this “neo-” business. Straight up confederacy is back on the agenda for these people.

Bless their black hearts.

241 Lidane  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:16:45pm

Rebranding!

242 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:16:57pm

You know what wingnuts love the most about Mr. Innis? HIS FIRST NAME.

243 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:17:01pm

re: #233 aagcobb

The College Republican report should’ve been a major wake-up call.

It should have but they seem to have totally ignored it. They just don’t get why their message overall is repugnant to most people under 25. They don’t want to get it because they think their version of conservatism has no flaws. It’s just that the American people are too stupid to get it which is laughable because we’ve seen their message and we don’t like it.

244 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:18:13pm

A shot of the audience.

245 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:18:41pm

re: #243 HappyWarrior

It should have but they seem to have totally ignored it. They just don’t get why their message overall is repugnant to most people under 25 100. They don’t want to get it because they think their version of conservatism has no flaws. It’s just that the American people are too stupid to get it which is laughable because we’ve seen their message and we don’t like it.

246 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:18:43pm
247 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:18:49pm

Cripes. The U.S. House GOP is basically your average Southern state legislature. It’s like the Florida House.

248 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:19:13pm

re: #222 HappyWarrior

On the other hand, the [GOP are] doing just enough to convince themselves that their message isn’t the problem despite only really being the majority party for Whites, Males, and Protestants.

And that is the trick…to further “empower” their base constituency through selective voter registration laws and redistricting

249 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:19:16pm

re: #224 FemNaziBitch

I’m wondering who the true Anarchists are? Or is it just that they don’t want FEDERAL government. They want to have their own little fiefdoms? (shades of Arpaio?)

But they do want FEDERAL government when they are in control. So for a lot of them it isn’t the level - it’s who is sitting behind the desk making the commands and reaping the benefits. Especially when it allows them to keep their own little fiefs where they can lord over others and take from them freely.

250 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:19:23pm

re: #244 Charles Johnson

A shot of the audience.

You can almost see the Derp radiating off them.

251 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:19:28pm

re: #244 Charles Johnson

A shot of the audience.

Pound-for-pound, a very large rally.

252 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:19:34pm

re: #245 Decatur Deb

Ha touche. But really if you’re not a rich straight white male Christian, there’s nothing at all appealing in the GOP agenda.

253 Dr. Matt  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:20:43pm

re: #244 Charles Johnson

A shot of the audience.

The average BMI looks around morbidly obese.

254 piratedan  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:20:48pm

re: #113 Charles Johnson

seems pretty fucking simple, don’t want the comparisons, don’t use the symbols.

255 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:20:48pm

re: #233 aagcobb

The College Republican report should’ve been a major wake-up call.

And that dodged around actually advocating the GOP changing their policies.

256 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:20:50pm

Texas Senate OKs bill aimed at closing nearly every abortion clinic in the state

Republicans on Tuesday passed a slate of new abortion restrictions by a vote of 20 to 10 that critics say will force all but five of the state’s abortion clinics to shut their doors forever.

S.B. 5 would require abortion clinics to hire doctors with hospital admitting privileges, mandate that abortion clinics become licensed as ambulatory surgical centers and force doctors to administer medication that causes abortions in person, rather than through a prescription.

All three measures were ditched by Republicans during the normal session due to the two-thirds requirement, which cemented the need for Democratic support. The special session requires only a simple majority for bills to pass, prompting Democrats to accuse Texas Republicans of using a loophole to pass their most brazenly partisan agenda items.

257 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:21:41pm
258 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:22:49pm

re: #252 HappyWarrior

Ha touche. But really if you’re not a rich straight white male Christian, there’s nothing at all appealing in the GOP agenda.

I’m a retired, straight, white, comfortable, male ex-seminarian. They’re dethspicable.

259 efuseakay  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:23:25pm

re: #244 Charles Johnson

A shot of the audience.

HUGE RALLY! 100 beelion!!!!!!!!

260 makeitstop  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:23:31pm

re: #193 Vicious Babushka

What an unfortunate first name Mr. Innis has.

I remember he was on MSNBC once, and the Chyron guy added an extra ‘G’ to his name on screen.

261 Mattand  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:23:42pm

re: #244 Charles Johnson

A shot of the audience.

I’d like to think that getting covered on C-SPAN 3 is the equivalent of being stuck on public access at 3 in the morning, between the Extenz and Slap Chop ads.

262 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:23:55pm

re: #258 Decatur Deb

I’m a retired, straight, white, comfortable male ex-seminarian. They’re dethspicable.

Yeah but you’re a reasonable guy who doesn’t fear change. You’re not part of who they’re trying scare into voting for them.

263 b.d.  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:23:56pm

re: #244 Charles Johnson

What a crowd. At least some of them are standing up, they can count that as a workout.

264 Ian G.  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:24:15pm

re: #244 Charles Johnson

A shot of the audience.

Look at that youthful multi-ethnic rainbow there! This is the future of America, no doubt!

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265 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:25:10pm

If the GOP has taught us anything over the last few years, it is that they can not be dealt with in good faith. They are not trustworthy and will break deals at the drop of a hat. The only way to deal with them is to work around them them and defeat them at every opportunity.

266 Mattand  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:25:42pm

re: #257 Vicious Babushka

267 Dr. Matt  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:25:56pm

The socialist commie teabag marxists are using public transportation.

268 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:26:04pm

So it’s OK to make fun out of people for being fat?

269 Mattand  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:26:17pm

re: #266 Mattand

Fuck, ignore that, LOL!

270 EPR-radar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:26:29pm

re: #255 Feline Fearless Leader

And that dodged around actually advocating the GOP changing their policies.

And such excellent policies they are, too. //dripping

1) Return to the robber baron era by removing all constraints on the exploitation of workers by capital.

2) Distract 99.999% of the population from how badly they will be screwed by point #1 by pursuing wonderful ideas like: A) endless and pointless wars, B) culture war bullshit (i.e., hating on the gays), C) misogyny at every level of government, and D) neo-confederate reactionary backsliding on civil rights for minorities.

271 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:26:40pm

re: #265 Kragar

If the GOP has taught us anything over the last few years, it is that they can not be dealt with in good faith. They are not trustworthy and will break deals at the drop of a hat. The only way to deal with them is to work around them them and defeat them at every opportunity.

And hear the lamentation of their women.

272 Bulworth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:26:55pm

Tea party rallies to demand their tax-exempt entitlement.

273 Lidane  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:27:15pm

re: #233 aagcobb

The College Republican report should’ve been a major wake-up call.

Hahahaha, no. Taking the College Republicans seriously would require the GOP to take anyone under 95 seriously. Won’t happen. Ever.

Also, they’re college kids. What the hell do they know? They’re obviously victims of librul indoctrination because they’re trying to get some extra fancy book learnin’ after high school.

274 EPR-radar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:28:21pm

re: #273 Lidane

Hahahaha, no. Taking the College Republicans seriously would require the GOP to take anyone under 95 seriously. Won’t happen. Ever.

Also, they’re college kids. What the hell do they know? They’re obviously victims of librul indoctrination because they’re trying to get some extra fancy book learnin’ after high school.

All too true. Which of course calls into question the mental faculties of the College Republicans.

275 Skip Intro  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:28:31pm

re: #260 makeitstop

I remember he was on MSNBC once, and the Chyron guy added an extra ‘G’ to his name on screen.

I thought that happened on Fox.

276 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:29:00pm

re: #268 Gus

So it’s OK to make fun out of people for being fat?

Actually, I was trying to point out how sparse the crowd is.

277 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:29:35pm

re: #273 Lidane

Hahahaha, no. Taking the College Republicans seriously would require the GOP to take anyone under 95 seriously. Won’t happen. Ever.

Also, they’re college kids. What the hell do they know? They’re obviously victims of librul indoctrination because they’re trying to get some extra fancy book learnin’ after high school.

I think O’Reilly’s response to the College R’s report was “They’re college kids, what do they know?” Obviously they know a lot more about how the GOP is perceived with under 30 somes than Bill does. It was still a delusional report because it repeats the bs that its the messaging not the message that’s the problem.

278 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:29:37pm

re: #273 Lidane

Hahahaha, no. Taking the College Republicans seriously would require the GOP to take anyone under 95 seriously. Won’t happen. Ever.

Their logic is that “they’ll turn conservative once they turn older”

279 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:29:56pm

re: #276 Charles Johnson

Actually, I was trying to point out how sparse the crowd is.

I was thinking about the ChicoDelainky Tweet.

280 GunstarGreen  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:30:05pm

re: #189 teleskiguy

Tea bag spelling in action!

When fascism comes to America it will come wrapped in a flag and bearing a misspelled sign.

281 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:30:36pm

re: #278 Sol Berdinowitz

Their logic is that “they’ll turn conservative once they turn older”

Yeah they think youth support of gay marriage is just a fad. Sorry guys but pogs were a fad. Believing that my gay and lesbian friends deserve equality under the law is my principle.

282 Lidane  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:30:54pm

re: #278 Sol Berdinowitz

Their logic is that “they’ll turn conservative once they turn older”

Which is hilarious, because those kids are Republicans now.

283 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:30:55pm

re: #258 Decatur Deb

I’m a retired, straight, white, comfortable, male ex-seminarian. They’re dethspicable.

Yeah, but I bet you read fiction.

284 aagcobb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:31:39pm

re: #255 Feline Fearless Leader

And that dodged around actually advocating the GOP changing their policies.

It did. But when your own college kids tell you the words their peers associate with the GOP are “close-minded, racist, rigid and old-fashioned”, it shouldn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out a little distancing from the rabid fundamentalist base is in order.

285 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:31:41pm

re: #268 Gus

So it’s OK to make fun out of people for being fat?

No, it’s not.

It’s a bad stereotype.

286 Lidane  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:32:47pm

re: #277 HappyWarrior

It was still a delusional report because it repeats the bs that its the messaging not the message that’s the problem.

Oh yeah. They pretty much followed the RNC bullshit about rebranding.

None of these imbeciles have gotten it into their heads that it’s not the messaging that’s the problem. It’s the message. It’s the fact that all this retrograde social conservative shit doesn’t square with the real life experiences of most people so the party focus on it turns people off.

287 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:33:06pm

re: #284 aagcobb

It did. But when your own college kids tell you the words their peers associate with the GOP are “close-minded, racist, rigid and old-fashioned”, it shouldn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out a little distancing from the rabid fundamentalist base is in order.

Maybe the Virginia GOP thought it was opposite day and that’s why F.W Jackson got nominated for Lt Governor.

288 makeitstop  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:33:15pm

re: #275 Skip Intro

I thought that happened on Fox.

MSNBC. Snopes has got a screen grab, I’m not going to post it here.

289 Dr. Matt  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:34:22pm

According to RWNJs the left are lazy unemployed moochers; how come 5000 to 10000 RWNJs are not working today?

290 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:34:22pm

Looks like people are leaving. The crowd’s getting smaller by the minute.

Image: LGF103.jpg

291 calochortus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:35:37pm

re: #289 Dr. Matt

According to RWNJs the left are lazy unemployed moochers; how come 5000 to 10000 RWNJs are not working today?

Independently wealthy?

292 GunstarGreen  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:35:42pm

re: #285 FemNaziBitch

No, it’s not.

It’s a bad stereotype.

As a recovering obese person (lots down, still lots to go), I have a few choice words on the subject of weight issues in America.

I don’t think they’d be well-received though.

293 Dr. Matt  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:35:46pm

re: #290 Charles Johnson

Looks like people are leaving. The crowd’s getting smaller by the minute.

Image: LGF103.jpg

Denny’s senior dinner menu starts at 4 pm.

294 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:35:48pm

re: #286 Lidane

Oh yeah. They pretty much followed the RNC bullshit about rebranding.

None of these imbeciles have gotten it into their heads that it’s not the messaging that’s the problem. It’s the message. It’s the fact that all this retrograde social conservative shit doesn’t square with the real life experiences of most people so the party focus on it turns people off.

Really even if I were more economically right wing, I’d want nothing to do with the GOP. One, because their economic “conservatism” and fiscal “conservatism” is fraudlent bs, two because their retrograde so-con bullshit would totally override anything close I would have to having agreeing with them on taxes and spending. They’re hopeless. We’ve discussed this before but the GOP if they wnat to survive long term needs a landslide to be told once and for all that their message sucks the big one. THey need to go all out and nominate someone like Santorum to totally put the bs message that not conservative is the problem once and for all.

295 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:36:12pm

re: #290 Charles Johnson

Looks like people are leaving. The crowd’s getting smaller by the minute.

Image: LGF103.jpg

Gotta beat the traffic jams.

296 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:36:44pm

re: #289 Dr. Matt

According to RWNJs the left are lazy unemployed moochers; how come 5000 to 10000 RWNJs are not working today?

Seriously how often do we hear “Hey lefties not working har har” whenever there’s a left wing rally but always silence whenever they claim to have a “massive” right wing rally.

297 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:37:09pm

re: #212 Charles Johnson

more of the “throng” I see…

298 aagcobb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:37:15pm

re: #287 HappyWarrior

Maybe the Virginia GOP thought it was opposite day and that’s why F.W Jackson got nominated for Lt Governor.

He proves we aren’t racist!

299 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:37:21pm

re: #295 Decatur Deb

Gotta beat the traffic jams.

Get out of town before night falls and the ethnic people come out.
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300 Bulworth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:37:22pm

re: #289 Dr. Matt

Freedom.

301 Lidane  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:37:37pm

re: #289 Dr. Matt

According to RWNJs the left are lazy unemployed moochers; how come 5000 to 10000 RWNJs are not working today?

Because the AARP offered them cheap airfare and hotels this week.

302 wrenchwench  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:38:42pm

re: #292 GunstarGreen

As a recovering obese person (lots down, still lots to go), I have a few choice words on the subject of weight issues in America.

I don’t think they’d be well-received though.

Make a Page!

303 GunstarGreen  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:39:41pm

re: #286 Lidane

Oh yeah. They pretty much followed the RNC bullshit about rebranding.

None of these imbeciles have gotten it into their heads that it’s not the messaging that’s the problem. It’s the message. It’s the fact that all this retrograde social conservative shit doesn’t square with the real life experiences of most people so the party focus on it turns people off.

Let’s say for a moment that I happened to agree with right-wing fiscal policy. I don’t, but let’s pretend for a moment.

I would still have to weight their fiscal policy against the idea that they believe some of my friends don’t deserve the same rights as everyone else. That they think their “small gub’mint” should have a say in what plants I can and can’t smoke, and what time of the day on certain days of the week I can purchase alcohol. That men should have the legal right to dictate to women what they can and can’t do with their bodies. That it’s okay for me to have sex with a random stranger for no established reason at all, but as soon as I give them money for it it becomes a crime.

These and so many other things. The people in that party that have strong economic beliefs sabotage themselves every day that they remain aligned with stone-age social reactionaries.

304 Bulworth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:39:52pm

re: #291 calochortus

They’re using vacation time they’ve earned generously provided them by their employers.

305 Bulworth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:41:10pm

re: #291 calochortus

They’re retired and collect Social Security, which was created by that communist anti-American Franklin Roosevelt.

306 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:41:15pm

re: #290 Charles Johnson

Looks like people are leaving. The crowd’s getting smaller by the minute.

Image: LGF103.jpg

Need to catch a train out before rush hour begins.

307 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:44:14pm

re: #303 GunstarGreen

Let’s say for a moment that I happened to agree with right-wing fiscal policy. I don’t, but let’s pretend for a moment.

I would still have to weight their fiscal policy against the idea that they believe some of my friends don’t deserve the same rights as everyone else. That they think their “small gub’mint” should have a say in what plants I can and can’t smoke, and what time of the day on certain days of the week I can purchase alcohol. That men should have the legal right to dictate to women what they can and can’t do with their bodies. That it’s okay for me to have sex with a random stranger for no established reason at all, but as soon as I give them money for it it becomes a crime.

These and so many other things. The people in that party that have strong economic beliefs sabotage themselves every day that they remain aligned with stone-age social reactionaries.

Exactly. Even if I were a right wing fiscal con, the GOP message would still suck to me. The GOP doesn’t get that and frankly in my observations of younger voters, they are actually not that fiscally left wing. They’re not Tea Partiers on the economy but they’re not Che shirt wearing and Marx reading socialists either. They believe in a reasonable government.

308 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:45:06pm

re: #306 Feline Fearless Leader

Need to catch a train out before rush hour begins.

Gotta catch the Orange train.

309 Bulworth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:46:13pm

re: #289 Dr. Matt

They’re getting retirement or disability benefits from Social Security, which is a needless and wasteful program created by FDR, whose New Deal soshulist programs didn’t help anybody.

310 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:47:55pm

Oh great. Flight 800 truthers.

311 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:49:31pm

twitter.com

312 Bulworth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:49:42pm

re: #310 Gus

Even when the new conspiracies flame out, we can always bring back the old conspiracies.

313 Randall Gross  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:49:52pm

I’m thinking that’s his old Air Cav hat but severely faded. In theory you aren’t supposed to wear parts of the uniform or the uniform when politicking. Per his bio he was Army for 28 yrs.

314 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:50:22pm

re: #292 GunstarGreen

As a recovering obese person (lots down, still lots to go), I have a few choice words on the subject of weight issues in America.

I don’t think they’d be well-received though.

I’ve learned that weight has little to do with health. A person can have a “socially acceptable’ appearance and be very unhealthy and vice versa.

Focusing on weight does little to help people.

315 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:50:43pm

re: #313 Randall Gross

I’m thinking that his old Air Cav hat but severely faded. In theory you aren’t supposed to wear parts of the uniform or the uniform when politicking. Per his bio he was Army for 28 yrs.

Sovereign Citizens can wear whatever they want, as long as it is in keeping with their gender role!

316 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:51:06pm

re: #310 Gus

Oh great. Flight 800 truthers.

Who were too tied to their jobs over their principles to speak out a decade ago.
//// ;P

317 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:51:51pm

Kickstarter pick-up guide tells men: ‘Pull out your c-ck and put her hand on it’

The online fundraising site Kickstarter came under criticism on Wednesday for giving a platform to a project encouraging men to become “modern alpha males” based on online advice that included putting womens’ hands on their penises.

Feministing reported that “Above The Game,” a book project proposed by Reddit user Ken Hoinsky, had raised more than $16,000 in funding as of Wednesday afternoon, far surpassing its original goal of $2,000 and seemingly ensuring the book will be published.

“It’s designed to be easy to understand, quick to read and full of inspirational advice that gets people out there actually practicing and talking to women,” Hoinsky said in the introductory video for the project posted on Kickstarter.

In the written project description, Hoinsky said that while some of the book’s content will be original, other sections will be taken from “the best material” he posted on Reddit’s “seduction” community, which he described in the video as a sub-site where “a bunch of men who are going through similar issues in their life come and exchange tips and stories and their experience and try to help each other out.”

FYI: Basic Marine combat training used to cover a maneuver which consisted of “GRAB-TWIST-PULL” with an emphasis on violence of action.

My daughters have been taught it.

318 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:52:08pm

re: #316 Feline Fearless Leader

Who were too tied to their jobs over their principles to speak out a decade ago.
//// ;P

What really happened?

Derp.

319 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:53:01pm

re: #318 Gus

What really happened?

Derp.

Don’t you know?

Demons.

320 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:53:19pm

re: #317 Kragar

Kickstarter pick-up guide tells men: ‘Pull out your c-ck and put her hand on it’

FYI: Basic Marine combat training used to cover a maneuver which consisted of “GRAB-TWIST-PULL” with an emphasis on violence of action.

My daughters have been taught it.

I think I may vomit.

321 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:55:13pm

re: #313 Randall Gross

I’m thinking that’s his old Air Cav hat but severely faded. In theory you aren’t supposed to wear parts of the uniform or the uniform when politicking. Per his bio he was Army for 28 yrs.

I think it’s allowed as long as they are retired or not active duty.

322 freetoken  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:55:22pm

re: #317 Kragar

I see that there’s a Page on that already.

323 Dr. Matt  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:55:36pm

There is a sign that actually reads “No Income Tax” and these idiots are expected to be taken seriously?

324 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:55:38pm

re: #313 Randall Gross

I’m thinking that’s his old Air Cav hat but severely faded. In theory you aren’t supposed to wear parts of the uniform or the uniform when politicking. Per his bio he was Army for 28 yrs.

To be fair, my guys pretty much made that inoperative:

Image: vvaw+72+dem+convention.jpg

Image: AP710422031_3_t607.JPG

325 calochortus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:55:41pm

re: #317 Kragar

Don’t you usually try to “pick up” a woman in a public space? Wouldn’t indecent exposure be a risky move for a variety of reasons?
Now, if you’re trying to seduce rape her in the privacy of your apartment, I suppose it is a possibility. Not, I think, an effective technique anywhere.

326 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:55:45pm

re: #320 FemNaziBitch


From the “advice” column:

“Decide that you’re going to sit in a position where you can rub her leg and back. Physically pick her up and sit her on your lap. Don’t ask for permission. Be dominant. Force her to rebuff your advances.

Pull out your cock and put her hand on it. Remember, she is letting you do this because you have established yourself as a LEADER. Don’t ask for permission, GRAB HER HAND, and put it right on your dick.”

Yeah, great advice. No way that could ever fail.
///
What a fucking douchenozzle.

327 Political Atheist  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:57:07pm

Kinda wondering how it is the rally went so badly and these same people have all this huge sway in congress. Huh? About that next election… Not looking good for the paleo right.

328 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:57:19pm

The documentary promises to investigate what really happened to Trans World Airlines Flight 800, a commercial Boeing 747-131 which exploded and crashed into the Atlantic Ocean in 1996, killing all 230 passengers onboard. The film is billed as delivering “a grand-scale exposé with breathtaking implications.”

Read more: realscreen.com

329 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:57:32pm

Fuck. I give up. We’ve turned into Russia.

330 Bulworth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:57:50pm

re: #323 Dr. Matt

I see representatives from the planter class made it to the rally today…

331 Randall Gross  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:58:00pm

re: #321 Killgore Trout

Here’s Morlen with Militia nut Adam Kokesh:
flickr.com

332 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:58:06pm

re: #326 Kragar

From the “advice” column:

“Decide that you’re going to sit in a position where you can rub her leg and back. Physically pick her up and sit her on your lap. Don’t ask for permission. Be dominant. Force her to rebuff your advances.

Pull out your cock and put her hand on it. Remember, she is letting you do this because you have established yourself as a LEADER. Don’t ask for permission, GRAB HER HAND, and put it right on your dick.”

Yeah, great advice. No way that could ever backfire.
///
What a fucking douchenozzle defendant.

333 Bulworth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:58:31pm

re: #328 Gus

They just have Concerns….

334 Dr. Matt  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:58:55pm

re: #329 Gus

Fuck. I give up. We’ve turned into Russia.

Cheap vodka and everyone has an AK-47?

335 wrenchwench  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:59:10pm

re: #326 Kragar

From the “advice” column:

“Decide that you’re going to sit in a position where you can rub her leg and back. Physically pick her up and sit her on your lap. Don’t ask for permission. Be dominant. Force her to rebuff your advances.

Pull out your cock and put her hand on it. Remember, she is letting you do this because you have established yourself as a LEADER. Don’t ask for permission, GRAB HER HAND, and put it right on your dick.”

Yeah, great advice. No way that could ever backfire.
///
What a fucking douchenozzle.

Here’s the problem:

Reddit’s “seduction” community, which he described in the video as a sub-site where “a bunch of men who are going through similar issues in their life come and exchange tips and stories and their experience and try to help each other out.”

Men who are admitted failures with women, getting together to fantasize about what might actually work. No! Don’t ask an actual woman! That’s too submissive!

336 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 12:59:50pm

re: #324 Decatur Deb

To be fair, my guys pretty much made that inoperative:

Image: vvaw+72+dem+convention.jpg

Image: AP710422031_3_t607.JPG

Yeah, I think it’s still technically frowned upon but as a civilian they can do whatever they want, the military can’t do shit about it once they’re out of the service.

337 calochortus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:00:02pm

re: #327 Political Atheist

Kinda wondering how it is the rally went so badly and these same people have all this huge sway in congress. Huh? About that next election… Not looking good for the paleo right.

The crowds were probably all at the anti-immigration rally on the other side of the Capitol.

338 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:00:27pm

re: #334 Dr. Matt

Cheap vodka and everyone has an AK-47?

3.2 domestic beer and an AR-15.

339 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:00:35pm

re: #335 wrenchwench

Here’s the problem:

Men who are admitted failures with women, getting together to fantasize about what might actually work. No! Don’t ask an actual woman! That’s too submissive!

For chrissakes, just legalize prostitution, then they can just pay a woman to let them think he is “dominant” for an hour and then go home…

340 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:00:41pm

re: #331 Randall Gross

Here’s Morlen with Militia nut Adam Kokesh:
flickr.com

Turquoise doesn’t work for him.

341 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:00:47pm

re: #317 Kragar

Kickstarter pick-up guide tells men: ‘Pull out your c-ck and put her hand on it’

FYI: Basic Marine combat training used to cover a maneuver which consisted of “GRAB-TWIST-PULL” with an emphasis on violence of action.

My daughters have been taught it.

Given that no armed or unarmed combat technique can be effectively learned without realistic practice, I’m morbidly curious what those lessons were like…

342 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:01:14pm

re: #335 wrenchwench

To be fair, they weren’t getting much success asking women if they wanted to join their LARP version of Gor.

343 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:01:37pm

re: #341 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Given that no armed or unarmed combat technique can be effectively learned without realistic practice, I’m morbidly curious what those lessons were like…

Bag of oranges.

344 GunstarGreen  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:01:38pm

re: #314 FemNaziBitch

I’ve learned that weight has little to do with health. A person can have a “socially acceptable’ appearance and be very unhealthy and vice versa.

Focusing on weight does little to help people.

It is very true that it is entirely possible to be thin and drastically unhealthy (alcoholism, drug abuse, anorexia), and that it is entirely possible to be obese and be relatively healthy compared to some thin people. But I believe that there is far too much being done to make being overweight ‘acceptable’ despite the serious health risks that obesity poses by its very nature. There is a lot of abuse going on — abusing the notion that picking at flaws in a person is wrong, I mean — to excuse living an unhealthy lifestyle in the quest to not harm anyone’s feelings.

To wit: There are a lot of very overweight people out there that could be doing something about it. But they set their minds firmly in the camp of “it’s wrong for other people to judge me based on my weight, so I won’t do anything to change it”.

I’m not saying that obesity is a singular cause to rally against. Given an obese person that was also an alcoholic or addicted to some hard drugs, I would certainly advising fixing their substance problem before worrying about their weight. But once that’s handled, the incidences of a person being very overweight are, by and large in the vast majority, the results of that person’s choices and actions rather than ‘genetics’ or any of the myriad other reasons that people use to excuse it.

345 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:02:53pm

re: #314 FemNaziBitch

I’ve learned that weight has little to do with health. A person can have a “socially acceptable’ appearance and be very unhealthy and vice versa.

Focusing on weight does little to help people.

Americans are too fixated on body image and what we stuff into our orifices to be able to conduct a reasonable, nuanced discussion of obesity…

346 kirkspencer  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:04:19pm

re: #326 Kragar

From the “advice” column:

“Decide that you’re going to sit in a position where you can rub her leg and back. Physically pick her up and sit her on your lap. Don’t ask for permission. Be dominant. Force her to rebuff your advances.

Pull out your cock and put her hand on it. Remember, she is letting you do this because you have established yourself as a LEADER. Don’t ask for permission, GRAB HER HAND, and put it right on your dick.”

Yeah, great advice. No way that could ever backfire.
///

So, does it include advice on finding the attorney? You know, the one who’s going to defend them against sexual battery charges? (Hey, you physically grabbed her and forced her to grab your penis, it’s no longer assault; it’s battery.)
What a fucking douchenozzle.

347 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:04:20pm

re: #342 Kragar

To be fair, they weren’t getting much success asking women if they wanted to join their LARP version of Gor.

Sadly Gor is not just a LARP but an actual way of life for some people.

348 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:05:21pm

re: #329 Gus

Fuck. I give up. We’ve turned into Russia.

Our history isn’t nearly as bizarre. Pre-revolution Russian history is weirder than any science fiction ever written.

349 A Mom Anon  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:05:22pm

re: #335 wrenchwench

I’ve told my 19 yr old son that the absolute WORST people to ask advice from about young women his age are his male peers. Ask a girl what she likes and values from a guy. Ask more than one girl, THEN think before you act. But for the love of god, the last people in the world he needs advice from are other guys his age, and for that matter, many of the older men he might run across might not have the best ideas either. IOW, when in doubt, ask the young women he knows about this stuff.

This crap of treating women like some foreign species is why these guys have the issues they have. Not to mention this notion of only “hot” girls being the ones worth pursuing. Ack. Anyone taking that idiot’s advice is liable to find himself in a courtroom, the dude might want to put in a chapter on hiring a good defense attorney while he’s at it.

350 freetoken  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:05:53pm

re: #328 Gus

See my notes from last night, including this one:

littlegreenfootballs.com

351 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:05:57pm

TWA 800 - back in the news

Here’s the NTSB report:

ntsb.gov

The problem with documentary films is that it’s easy to present what looks like a compelling case by just presenting one narrow perspective on a very complex situation. The filmakers claim: “the radar data shows a(n) asymmetric explosion coming out of that plane” and I’m sure they will show something that could have multiple interpretations, but they will present only one, and then combine it with eyewitness recollections to make wat seems like an unassailable case.

Tom Stalcup has been doing this for years. This is his site:
flight800.org

He uses a similar line of reasoning to 9/11 truthers to ensure it’s impossible to ever fully debunk his suggestions:

Quote Content from external source:

During the investigation, the FBI unlawfully denied the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) access to forensic results and eyewitness interview documents. Without access to evidence and analyses withheld by the FBI, the NTSB’s final report is incomplete and its conclusions are in doubt.

352 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:06:11pm

re: #347 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Sadly Gor is not just a LARP but an actual way of life for some people.

Which I still find amazing in a train wreck kind of way.

353 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:06:15pm

re: #349 A Mom Anon

I’ve told my 19 yr old son that the absolute WORST people to ask advice from about young women his age are his male peers. Ask a girl what she likes and values from a guy. Ask more than one girl, THEN think before you act. But for the love of god, the last people in the world he needs advice from are other guys his age, and for that matter, many of the older men he might run across might not have the best ideas either. IOW, when in doubt, ask the young women he knows about this stuff.

This crap of treating women like some foreign species is why these guys have the issues they have. Not to mention this notion of only “hot” girls being the ones worth pursuing. Ack. Anyone taking that idiot’s advice is liable to find himself in a courtroom, the dude might want to put in a chapter on hiring a good defense attorney while he’s at it.

I just did what the nuns said. Worked for years.

354 calochortus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:06:34pm

re: #339 Sol Berdinowitz

For chrissakes, just legalize prostitution, then they can just pay a woman to let them think he is “dominant” for an hour and then go home…

Fine plan, but make sure the prostitutes are in a good working situation. Having recently driven through Nye County, NV, the (legal) brothels looked horribly sad and run down. Not having stopped in, I couldn’t say what the working conditions were, but I will say 3 out of 4 we drove by were sufficiently remote that someone working there might have trouble leaving without “permission”.

355 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:06:47pm

re: #350 freetoken

See my notes from last night, including this one:

littlegreenfootballs.com

Make a page! Please. :D

356 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:07:16pm

re: #352 Kragar

I don’t deny anyone their kinks but taking a really shitty series of novels written by a guy who couldn’t get a date and trying to make it a way of life is pretty funny but still sad.

357 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:08:31pm

re: #356 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I don’t deny anyone their kinks but taking a really shitty series of novels written by a guy who couldn’t get a date and trying to make it a way of life is pretty funny but still sad.

Gorians, making Furries seem normal since 1966
///

358 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:09:01pm

re: #348 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Our history isn’t nearly as bizarre. Pre-revolution Russian history is weirder than any science fiction ever written.

The biggest eye-opener to me was Tibor Szamuely’s The Russian Tradition, which makes it clear that while we in the West use the words “freedom” and “independence” as interchangeable synonyms, to the Russians they are almost opposites: to ensure their independence from foreign powers, they were compelled to give up their freedoms to a ruler who had the power to defend them.

That makes it very difficult to understand their approach to anything we consider “democracy” in the Western sense.

359 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:10:44pm

re: #357 Kragar

Gorians, making Furries seem normal since 1966
///

Saw something a bit more exotic than furries on a Nat Geo the other night—involves wearing a slick total-coverage ‘second skin’.

360 freetoken  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:11:26pm

I was never really satisfied with the result of the TW800 investigation.

Yet when I see the nature of the TWA800-truthers and how they’ve gone into the business of talk-radio fantasy land I despair that anyone will ever take the issue seriously. It doesn’t have to be a big conspiracy to have a non-perfect investigation.

361 Bulworth  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:11:33pm

re: #337 calochortus

I imagine the wingnuttery would get ramped up considerably should a comprehensive immigration bill come up for a vote in the House. The Obamacare vote on steroids.

362 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:12:04pm

re: #359 Decatur Deb

Saw something a bit more exotic than furries on a Nat Geo the other night—involves wearing a slick total-coverage ‘second skin’.

Exotic is using a feather.
Kinky is using the whole chicken.

363 calochortus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:12:09pm

re: #361 Bulworth

I imagine the wingnuttery would get ramped up considerably should a comprehensive immigration bill come up for a vote in the House. The Obamacare vote on steroids.

Oh, the horror.

364 GunstarGreen  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:12:10pm

re: #359 Decatur Deb

Saw something a bit more exotic than furries on a Nat Geo the other night—involves wearing a slick total-coverage ‘second skin’.

What, rubber fetishists?

365 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:12:31pm

re: #323 Dr. Matt

There is a sign that actually reads “No Income Tax” and these idiots are expected to be taken seriously?

No, they are serious

366 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:12:45pm

re: #361 Bulworth

I imagine the wingnuttery would get ramped up considerably should a comprehensive immigration bill come up for a vote in the House. The Obamacare vote on steroids.

Or if something manages to get passed the House will then have two issues they can constantly vote to repeal - - adding a second act to the Kabuki.

367 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:13:37pm

re: #364 GunstarGreen

What, rubber fetishists?

No, though it was compared to rubber/leather. This was a spandex-like suit, seemed to relieve extreme social anxiety.

368 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:13:54pm

re: #329 Gus

Fuck. I give up. We’ve turned into Russia.

Not quite yet, we don’t have blasphemy laws and the Orthodox church doesn’t get a say in government.

We are close, tho.

369 calochortus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:14:06pm

re: #365 FemNaziBitch

No, they are serious

Bring back window taxes now!

370 calochortus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:14:57pm

re: #367 Decatur Deb

No, though it was compared to rubber/leather. This was a spandex-like suit, seemed to relieve extreme social anxiety.

Like swaddling? All over pressure can have a calming effect.

371 wrenchwench  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:15:08pm

re: #327 Political Atheist

Kinda wondering how it is the rally went so badly and these same people have all this huge sway in congress. Huh? About that next election… Not looking good for the paleo right.

That huge sway comes from money, not rallies. The rallies are just for show. The money is from the Koch brothers. Lots of it. It’s the only language politicians understand.

372 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:15:28pm

re: #367 Decatur Deb

sounds almost like lycra LOL.

There’s a saying “If you think it we can kink it”. Some people have some pretty weird fetishes though.

373 Lidane  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:15:33pm

re: #339 Sol Berdinowitz

For chrissakes, just legalize prostitution, then they can just pay a woman to let them think he is “dominant” for an hour and then go home…

Seriously. All these douchecanoes need is to get laid. Legalize and regulate prostitution, giving these guys a place to go and get called a big, strong man for an hour. Voila! Problem solved.

374 GunstarGreen  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:15:35pm

re: #367 Decatur Deb

No, though it was compared to rubber/leather. This was a spandex-like suit, seemed to relieve extreme social anxiety.

Oh, you mean like the ones that are total-body except for like nose and mouth and possibly eyes?

Wouldn’t be my cup of tea but I can certainly understand it; the anonymizing factor helping ease a person’s social anxiety.

375 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:16:02pm

re: #370 calochortus

Like swaddling? All over pressure can have a calming effect.

More like spider-man suits, but monochromatic. Will look for the program.

376 Lidane  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:16:39pm

re: #347 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Sadly Gor is not just a LARP but an actual way of life for some people.

While for the rest of us, Gor is just laughably bad fiction.

It’s Fifty Shades of Grey for sad sack men that can’t get laid.

377 wrenchwench  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:16:48pm

re: #340 Killgore Trout

Turquoise doesn’t work for him.

The exit sign hat is nice, though.

378 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:16:55pm

re: #374 GunstarGreen

Oh, you mean like the ones that are total-body except for like nose and mouth and possibly eyes?

Wouldn’t be my cup of tea but I can certainly understand it; the anonymizing factor helping ease a person’s social anxiety.

Must have been breathable—suit head was total.

379 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:17:24pm

FINALLY! A VERIFIED CASE OF VOTER FRAUD!

Virginia Republican pleads guilty to dozens of counts of voter fraud

A Virginia Republican and supporter of former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-GA) pleaded guilty on Tuesday to perjury and 36 counts of voter fraud.

Adam Ward, 28, claimed he collected more than 11,000 petition signatures for Gingrich during the Republican presidential primaries, in an effort to ensure the candidate’s embattled campaign had a spot on the state’s ballot. Over 4,000 of those petition signatures turned out to be fake, according to NBC News affiliate WVIR-TV.

Obviously this proves the need for Voter ID laws.
/

380 calochortus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:17:46pm

re: #375 Decatur Deb

More like spider-man suits, but monochromatic. Will look for the program.

I didn’t mean exactly like swaddling-if it is a fairly strong spandex it could create the same sense of pressure.

381 Joanne  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:17:56pm

re: #97 Vicious Babushka

Found a FReeper’s Twitter feed with photos of the rally.

I think I saw a handful of people over 40 in those pics.

382 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:18:12pm

re: #370 calochortus

Like swaddling? All over pressure can have a calming effect.

Like thundershirts for dogs?

383 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:18:48pm

re: #380 calochortus

I didn’t mean exactly like swaddling-if it is a fairly strong spandex it could create the same sense of pressure.

Here. Zentai?

channel.nationalgeographic.com

384 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:18:54pm

re: #344 GunstarGreen

It is very true that it is entirely possible to be thin and drastically unhealthy (alcoholism, drug abuse, anorexia), and that it is entirely possible to be obese and be relatively healthy compared to some thin people. But I believe that there is far too much being done to make being overweight ‘acceptable’ despite the serious health risks that obesity poses by its very nature. There is a lot of abuse going on — abusing the notion that picking at flaws in a person is wrong, I mean — to excuse living an unhealthy lifestyle in the quest to not harm anyone’s feelings.

To wit: There are a lot of very overweight people out there that could be doing something about it. But they set their minds firmly in the camp of “it’s wrong for other people to judge me based on my weight, so I won’t do anything to change it”.

I’m not saying that obesity is a singular cause to rally against. Given an obese person that was also an alcoholic or addicted to some hard drugs, I would certainly advising fixing their substance problem before worrying about their weight. But once that’s handled, the incidences of a person being very overweight are, by and large in the vast majority, the results of that person’s choices and actions rather than ‘genetics’ or any of the myriad other reasons that people use to excuse it.

I guess I see extreme obesity and “overweight” as being two different things. There are plenty of “sturdy women” who come from long lines of “sturdy women” who are perfectly healthy and active. Same for me. The beer belly, red face scenario that was the original example is (IMHO) a sign of bad health —but the man’s weight is a symptom, not the only factor.

Shaming the person for their weight will not help —only reinforce negative emotions they are mostly likely already feeling.

I tend to advise a full physical to rule-out diabetes, thyroid, depression, etc.

I have big problems with people who think negative peer pressure will help anyone.

385 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:18:56pm

re: #376 Lidane

While for the rest of us, Gor is just laughably bad fiction.

It’s Fifty Shades of Grey for sad sack men that can’t get laid.

There are plenty of sub women who are into the “Gorian” lifestyle as well, but yeah I don’t get it and really don’t get the men that are into it. They remind me of the D&D nerd who thought it was all real.

386 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:19:04pm

re: #376 Lidane

While for the rest of us, Gor is just laughably bad fiction.

It’s Fifty Shades of Grey for sad sack men that can’t get laid.

Pfft. Fifty Shades of Grey is for little girls. The 120 Days Of Sodom or Justine: that’s the real deal.

387 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:20:34pm

re: #360 freetoken

I was never really satisfied with the result of the TW800 investigation.

Yet when I see the nature of the TWA800-truthers and how they’ve gone into the business of talk-radio fantasy land I despair that anyone will ever take the issue seriously. It doesn’t have to be a big conspiracy to have a non-perfect investigation.

Investigating plane failure is by nature hard because they occur up in the air and then there’s a big crash. So you can’t actually look at the ‘scene’ and it’s very hard to tell damage caused in the crash from damage that caused the crash.

388 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:20:46pm

re: #385 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

There are plenty of sub women who are into the “Gorian” lifestyle as well, but yeah I don’t get it and really don’t get the men that are into it. They remind me of the D&D nerd who thought it was all real.

Why did the Elven maiden slap the halfling?

He kept saying how nice her hair smelled.

/ducking

389 calochortus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:21:44pm

re: #382 Kragar

re: #383 Decatur Deb

The things I learn here…

390 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:22:15pm

Zentai.

en.wikipedia.org

This concludes my Culture and Personality lecture for the afternoon.

391 GunstarGreen  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:22:52pm

re: #384 FemNaziBitch

I guess I see extreme obesity and “overweight” as being two different things. There are plenty of “sturdy women” who come from long lines of “sturdy women” who are perfectly healthy and active. Same for me. The beer belly, red face scenario that was the original example is (IMHO) a sign of bad health —but the man’s weight is a symptom, not the only factor.

Shaming the person for their weight will not help —only reinforce negative emotions they are mostly likely already feeling.

I tend to advise a full physical to rule-out diabetes, thyroid, depression, etc.

I have big problems with people who think negative peer pressure will help anyone.

Yes, I am referring specifically to obesity and not ‘overweight’, insofar as it is defined according to BMI. Not everyone has the natural body structure of a supermodel — and most supermodels didn’t either, before significant surgery. BMI is a guideline, not a hard-science, and there are plenty of perfectly-healthy people that are ‘overweight’ according to those charts. But an adult human should not weigh 300+ pounds, and in the cases where one does it is usually the result of habits that could be changed, if they truly wanted to. There are exceptions to every rule, of course.

392 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:23:00pm

re: #384 FemNaziBitch

My wife is obese, heavy set, ok she’s a fat chick. Her BP is great, cholesterol is great, no sign of Diabetes etc. She is perfectly healthy she’s just big. I really, really get annoyed with people telling others how they should live their lives and would tell my wife (or any overweight person for that matter) what and how to live unless it’s their doctor. Hell by the current “standard” bmi I am “obese” yet I am in decent shape.

Just like I don’t think republicans have a right to tell a woman what she does with her body I really can’t stand people telling someone they should just lose weight.

393 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:23:05pm

re: #296 HappyWarrior

Seriously how often do we hear “Hey lefties not working har har” whenever there’s a left wing rally but always silence whenever they claim to have a “massive” right wing rally.

Because they’re all retired folks!!

394 Ming  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:23:06pm

Sarah Palin might call this a “refudiation” of when Michelle Bachmann played a doctor on TV. From msnbc.com, “Infections with the human papillomavirus tied to cervical cancer fell by more than half in U.S. teen girls after the HPV vaccine was introduced in 2006, despite high-profile controversy — and low rates of uptake, a new study shows.”

Thanks for the medical advice, Michelle. No word on whether there’s been an uptick in teenage mental retardation, but I’m sure Fox News is looking into that.

395 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:23:25pm

re: #388 Kragar

ROFLMAO.

396 Joanne  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:24:39pm

re: #174 Kragar

And Rick Perry is the mastermind behind it all!

Using Rick Perry and mastermind in a single sentence is giving me cognitive dissonance.

397 Lidane  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:25:33pm

re: #386 Dr Lizardo

Pfft. Fifty Shades of Grey is for little girls. The 120 Days Of Sodom or Justine: that’s the real deal.

Ah, the Marquis deSade. I’d call him a twisted bastard, but he would take it as a compliment.

398 GeneJockey  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:25:43pm

re: #396 Joanne

Using Rick Perry and mastermind in a single sentence is giving me cognitive dissonance.

And yet you just did it.

399 calochortus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:26:46pm

It’s time to make a conservative somewhere shed a little tear as I go outside and enjoy some gardening time here in my liberal paradise.
Living well is the best revenge,

BBL

400 GeneJockey  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:27:30pm

re: #394 Ming

Off-topic… Sarah Palin might call it a “refudiation” of when Michelle Bachmann played a doctor on TV. From msnbc.com, “Infections with the human papillomavirus tied to cervical cancer fell by more than half in U.S. teen girls after the HPV vaccine was introduced in 2006, despite high-profile controversy — and low rates of uptake, a new study shows.”

Thanks for the medical advice, Michelle. No word on whether there’s been an uptick in teenage mental retardation, but I’m sure Fox News is looking into that.

BUT NOW THEY’RE ARMED FOR SEX!!!11!!1!

401 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:27:49pm

re: #386 Dr Lizardo

or even the Story of O.

402 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:29:11pm

re: #391 GunstarGreen

Yes, I am referring specifically to obesity and not ‘overweight’, insofar as it is defined according to BMI. Not everyone has the natural body structure of a supermodel — and most supermodels didn’t either, before significant surgery. BMI is a guideline, not a hard-science, and there are plenty of perfectly-healthy people that are ‘overweight’ according to those charts. But an adult human should not weigh 300+ pounds, and in the cases where one does it is usually the result of habits that could be changed, if they truly wanted to. There are exceptions to every rule, of course.

There can be physical conditions that can be treated at the root, thyroid seems to be a common cause—as is diabetes. I have cousins with some genetic thyroid disorder—all are on thyroid meds and have a horrible, horrible time keeping weight off. All are big, big girls.

I had an experience when I was in college that has guided my view of obesity. My older cousin treated me to dinner at a nicer restaurant that I could not afford . She was dressed professionally and I was in typical college garb. The waiter only spoke to me and at the end of the dinner handed me the bill.

Not long before that Oprah did a “fat suit” show and showed how large people (not necessarily obese) were treated.

I saw it happen right in front of me.

My cousin was the obvious payer of the dinner —yet the waiter didn’t seem to want a tip from a overweight person.

Somehow, she and her sisters manage to have college degrees, husbands, kids and full lives —weight is only an issue when others make it so.

403 Lidane  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:29:13pm

re: #401 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

or even the Story of O.

Or the unedited diaries by Anais Nin. I read those back in my 20’s. Eye opening, to say the least.

404 Joanne  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:31:12pm

re: #234 Charles Johnson

“Defeat Fascism… Again!”

That lady looks like she’s wearing a maxi pad on the wrong side of her jeans.

406 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:33:12pm

Hairy Stockings: Latest, Wacky, Wrongheaded Product that Won’t Solve Rape Culture

You gotta see this pic

407 GeneJockey  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:33:37pm

re: #405 FemNaziBitch

Right-Wing Immigration Foes Get Burned by Reality
The CBO says the Senate immigration bill would lower the deficit by $900 billion over the next 20 years.

Cue the ‘The CBO is biased!’ defense.

408 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:34:20pm

re: #406 FemNaziBitch

Hairy Stockings: Latest, Wacky, Wrongheaded Product that Won’t Solve Rape Culture

You gotta see this pic

Ha. When I hit that, I got a half-page popup of Rep Boehner.

409 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:34:53pm

Ohio Again.

Another Woman Held Captive in Ohio

410 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:35:01pm

AND THEY ALL WANT TO REPEAL OBAMACARE!!

411 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:36:49pm

I love it when they eat their own.

412 Joanne  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:37:03pm

re: #290 Charles Johnson

Looks like people are leaving. The crowd’s getting smaller by the minute.

Image: LGF103.jpg

Remember the Rally to Restore Sanity?

413 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:37:10pm

kitteh cuteness

414 Ian G.  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:38:16pm

re: #328 Gus

Oh good. This country needs another conspiracy theory.

My only question is, was it Bush or Obama’s fault?///

415 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:38:22pm

re: #397 Lidane

Ah, the Marquis deSade. I’d call him a twisted bastard, but he would take it as a compliment.

de Sade was beyond twisted. I consider myself a pretty open-minded fellow, but when I was reading Justine, there was a couple of times I had to stop because obscenity overload.

416 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:38:55pm

re: #412 Joanne

Remember the Rally to Restore Sanity?

Remember? Still haven’t caught up on my sleep. Drove from Lower Alabama to Atlanta and served as bus captain up and back.

417 Lidane  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:39:15pm

TYRANNY! GUBMINT OVERREACH! WORSE THAN HITLER!

418 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:39:43pm

re: #401 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

or even the Story of O.

The Story of O is certainly better written than Fifty Shades.

419 Lidane  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:41:09pm

re: #415 Dr Lizardo

de Sade was beyond twisted. I consider myself a pretty open-minded fellow, but when I was reading Justine, there was a couple of times I had to stop because obscenity overload.

I was trying to be kind. deSade is easily one of the most fucked up writers I’ve ever read. I couldn’t even finish Justine. I’m all in favor of consensual kink and have nothing against some good erotica, but that guy was just fucked in the head.

420 Joanne  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:41:20pm

re: #305 Bulworth

They’re retired and collect Social Security, which was created by that communist anti-American Franklin Roosevelt.

Because they deserve it…unlike THOSE people!

421 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:44:06pm

re: #410 Vicious Babushka

AND THEY ALL WANT TO REPEAL OBAMACARE!!

Audit Theirs?

Their what?

422 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:44:50pm

re: #419 Lidane

I was trying to be kind. deSade is easily one of the most fucked up writers I’ve ever read. I couldn’t even finish Justine. I’m all in favor of consensual kink and have nothing against some good erotica, but that guy was just fucked in the head.

I’ve seen the film ‘Salo, or The 120 Days Of Sodom’, which is loosely inspired by de Sade’s work. It’s not for everybody - to put it mildly - but I found it to be a good film. I viewed as an indictment of fascism and the fascist mindset.

423 Velvet Elvis  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:45:38pm

I bet I could do this if I tried really hard:

Youtube Video

not

424 Joanne  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:46:04pm

re: #343 Kragar

Bag of oranges.

Banana’s could be more destructive (and messy).

425 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:46:24pm

Results for michael hastings murdered

426 Joanne  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:50:28pm

re: #398 GeneJockey

Smart alec! :-)

427 Joanne  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:53:29pm

re: #411 Vicious Babushka

I love it when they eat their own.

Try GROWEN a pair?

428 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:55:50pm
429 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:56:05pm

Swiss MPs hold up landmark tax deal with US

Financial Times, so cannot/should not cut and paste. Seems Swiss Lower House doesn’t want to cooperate with US Gov’t in reporting the Tax Evaders.

hmmmmm

430 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:56:18pm

re: #427 Joanne

Try GROWEN a pair?

Groan, they Groan for them.

431 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:56:46pm

Chinese have launched a Carbon Market.

Will this make AlGore rich?

432 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:02:39pm

re: #430 FemNaziBitch

Groan, they Groan for them.

THIS IS ARE COUNTRY.

433 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:12:07pm

Breaking: FBI uses recording devices and cameras for domestic investigations.

434 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:13:24pm

re: #433 Gus

Breaking: FBI uses recording devices and cameras for domestic investigations.

Youtube Video

435 Ian G.  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:14:44pm

re: #428 Gus

And the NYPD uses helicopters for surveillance too, but those have pilots so they’re not scary, or something.

Fucking context, how does it work?

436 freetoken  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:14:51pm

Subtleties:

Study uncovers anti-black attitudes among tea party supporters — but not members

[…]

New research published online in Race and Social Problems suggests the racial politics surrounding the tea party movement are highly nuanced. The researchers found no difference between the racial attitudes of the general white population and self-identified tea party members. Those who had a favorable view of the tea party, on the other hand, were in fact more likely to admit to holding anti-black sentiments.

[…]

Maxwell and Parent, however, did find that negative attitudes towards African Americans and racial stereotypes were linked to disapproval of Obama, suggesting an potential indirect link between racial animus and tea party membership.

The link between racial animus and favorable opinions of the tea party movement was clearer. Tea party supporters were more likely than the general white population to agree with statements like, “It is really a matter of some people not trying hard enough; if blacks would only try harder, they could be just as well off as whites” and disagree with statements like, “Generations of slavery and discrimination have created conditions that make it difficult for blacks to work their way out of the lower class.”

[…]

437 Lidane  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:16:04pm

Completely OT, but whoever said there’s no such thing as bad publicity wasn’t trying to sell a video game console:

Microsoft Is Removing Xbox One DRM

This could be the biggest backtrack in gaming history: Microsoft will reverse course on their DRM policies for Xbox One, dropping their 24-hour Internet check-in requirement and all restrictions on used games.

It still won’t make me buy a new console at launch. Screw that noise. Imma wait for the inevitable price drops and for some games to actually be released first.

438 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:16:40pm

re: #433 Gus

Breaking: FBI uses recording devices and cameras for domestic investigations.

Shocking.
/

439 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:19:53pm


Heh. Rawstory.

440 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:20:35pm
441 Ian G.  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:23:33pm

Michelle Malkin will be here shortly to tell us how this guy was really a leftist:

timesunion.com

I’m still trying to wrap my head around a self-described Klansman wanting to “help” Jews defeat their “enemies”.

442 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:24:55pm

‘Klan Kamp’ to Open in Ozarks

443 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:26:19pm

re: #437 Lidane

Completely OT, but whoever said there’s no such thing as bad publicity wasn’t trying to sell a video game console:

Microsoft Is Removing Xbox One DRM

It still won’t make me buy a new console at launch. Screw that noise. Imma wait for the inevitable price drops and for some games to actually be released first.

I knew they’d cave, but I didn’t expect it this fast. My guess is they realized they were getting clobbered by Sony in preorders and decided to act.

I’m betting after Microsoft announced their new policies first, they were expecting Sony to go along with some of them as well, when they didn’t happen, they backed off.

444 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:29:48pm

re: #437 Lidane

Completely OT, but whoever said there’s no such thing as bad publicity wasn’t trying to sell a video game console:

Microsoft Is Removing Xbox One DRM

It still won’t make me buy a new console at launch. Screw that noise. Imma wait for the inevitable price drops and for some games to actually be released first.

This news is not surprising, given how badly Xbox stepped on their dicks at E3.

445 freetoken  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:30:55pm

Obama making plans to tackle global warming

Good luck with that.

446 freetoken  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:32:43pm

Goodbye, dead tree products:

L.A. to give every student an Apple iPad; $30M order

Los Angeles’ school system, the second largest in the United States, is ordering iPads for all its students, handing Apple a major success in its quest to make the tablet computer a replacement for textbooks.

The Los Angeles Board of Education on Tuesday approved the purchase of $30 million worth of iPads as the first part of a multi-year commitment. It found that the iPad was the least expensive option that met its specifications.

[…]

447 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:34:11pm

re: #443 Eclectic Cyborg

I knew they’d cave, but I didn’t expect it this fast. My guess is they realized they were getting clobbered by Sony in preorders and decided to act.

I’m betting after Microsoft announced their new policies first, they were expecting Sony to go along with some of them as well, when they didn’t happen, they backed off.

After Sony’s Rootkit fiasco, I think they learned their lesson about draconian DRM schemes.

448 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:34:14pm

re: #437 Lidane

Completely OT, but whoever said there’s no such thing as bad publicity wasn’t trying to sell a video game console:

Microsoft Is Removing Xbox One DRM

It still won’t make me buy a new console at launch. Screw that noise. Imma wait for the inevitable price drops and for some games to actually be released first.

Damage done.
Silly M$.

449 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:34:38pm

re: #443 Eclectic Cyborg

I knew they’d cave, but I didn’t expect it this fast. My guess is they realized they were getting clobbered by Sony in preorders and decided to act.

I’m betting after Microsoft announced their new policies first, they were expecting Sony to go along with some of them as well, when they didn’t happen, they backed off.

That’s about right for Microsoft.

Afternoon Lizardim.

450 Lidane  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:35:34pm

re: #446 freetoken

Goodbye, dead tree products:

L.A. to give every student an Apple iPad; $30M order

This is also a shot across the bow of the religious fanatics who use the textbook scam to try and get all their shitty ideas ensrhined as education standards.

I would love to see Texas do the same thing one day.

451 freetoken  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:35:42pm

No surprise here:

Walker to speak at Chicago-based conservative think tank focused on global warming

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker is scheduled to speak at a prominent think tank that denies the existence of man-made global warming.

Walker was scheduled to appear at a $250 dinner and reception Wednesday night at the Chicago-based Heartland Institute. The group’s website describes Walker as “the country’s most successful and important governor.”

[…]

Most of the article is just a press release, except for the first paragraph. Even the article headline is misleading.

452 darthstar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:37:41pm

re: #411 Vicious Babushka

I love it when they eat their own.

They’re growen[sic] on me.

453 freetoken  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:38:29pm

The Des Moines Register has a crowd report in the article about Steve King:

Steve King holds six-hour “press conference” in Washington on immigration

Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, an outspoken critic of the push to overhaul the country’s immigration law, joined hundreds of supporters in a rally on Wednesday in an effort to build opposition for controversial legislation moving through Congress.

[…]

454 freetoken  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:39:48pm

“Hundreds” is not so impressive for an “immigration” rally.

King is not really able to swing much by himself. He really does need his allies at Faux to pump up his nativism.

455 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:42:05pm
456 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:42:14pm

re: #440 Gus

Is that just bad white balance (hurr, no pun intended) or is he in fulminant liver failure?

Image: 12953509-large.jpg

457 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:43:00pm

re: #456 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Is that just bad white balance (hurr, no pun intended) or is he in fulminant liver failure?

Image: 12953509-large.jpg

Lighting probably.

458 Lidane  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:43:30pm

re: #453 freetoken

Steve King holds six-hour “press conference” in Washington on immigration

A six hour press conference? King must really like the sound of his own voice.

459 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:44:44pm

?????

460 EPR-radar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:44:56pm

re: #448 Varek Raith

Damage done.
Silly M$.

I like how Xbox one has a tendency to become Xbone when criticizing MS.

461 freetoken  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:45:31pm

Hint to Steve King - when you’ve lost your own state perhaps you are far too reactionary?


Iowa Poll: 54% of Iowans favor creating path to citizenship

462 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:46:50pm

The Consequences of Legalizing “GI Jesus Tourette’s Syndrome”

Fleming himself is a proud and pedantic ignoramus who last year incurred a literal tsunami of well-deserved international mockery after expressing loud dismay about news of a supposed “$8 billion [Planned Parenthood] Abortionplex.”The source of this “big scoop”? Well-known satirical website, The Onion. Indeed, the “troubling reports” he refers to in his Section 530 press release are absolute malarkey that only a gullible dimwit like the brain-cell-challenged Fleming and his fellow House morons would believe: half-truths, untruths, lies, and distortions flowing steadily from the mendacious, fundamentalist Christian gutter press.

Singling me out on the floor of the Congress just last month in May (Click here to view the video), Fleming also stated: “Weinstein has spent nine years at war — those are his words — at war with evangelical Christians who he says are committing ‘spiritual rape’ against the U.S. military… Mr. Weinstein exploits freedom of speech to name call and to label Christians as the ‘Christian taliban’ and ‘al Qaeda,’ but he seeks to shut down the religious freedom of expression of service members in the process.”

ever heard of this site?

463 engineer cat  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:47:00pm

The Tesla BlueStar is a proposed electric car to be manufactured by Tesla Motors, with a production goal of 2016 or 2017. Tesla intends the car to have a price under US$40,000 and have a range of about 200 miles. Technology from Tesla’s Model S line may also make its way into the BlueStar line. “It would be quite similar to the Model S but scaled down.” Although the Model S is generally a standard looking car, the third generation vehicle will have more distinctive style

464 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:47:18pm

What right-wing racism? (Please flag media)

465 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:47:31pm

re: #461 freetoken

Hint to Steve King - when you’ve lost your own state perhaps you are far too reactionary?

Iowa Poll: 54% of Iowans favor creating path to citizenship

He’s a rep so that won’t matter to him.

466 kerFuFFler  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:47:34pm

re: #117 Lidane

” Christian Domestic Discipline, or CDD as its adherents call it, is a movement that seeks to carry out God’s will…. that all women obey their husbands fastidiously — a dynamic that CDD thinks is best maintained through doling out out corporal punishments. Its few thousand practitioners, however, claim that it’s not domestic abuse.”

Sounds like they are trying to come up with a “religious observance” exception to condone spousal abuse. Jeeeeeebuss!

467 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:48:54pm

re: #458 Lidane

A six hour press conference? King must really like the sound of his own voice.

Six hours, huh? Even Louis Farrakhan doesn’t pontificate for that long.

468 freetoken  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:49:24pm

re: #465 Gus

But there is a Senate election coming, and King has been the fav of the wingnuts in state to go for it.

469 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:49:36pm

re: #455 Gus

Lol. Okely dokely crazirino.

470 engineer cat  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:50:46pm

re: #453 freetoken

Steve King holds six-hour “press conference” in Washington on immigration

watch out for unusual weather patterns resulting from the giant blast of hot air

471 wrenchwench  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:51:23pm

re: #464 Vicious Babushka

What right-wing racism? (Please flag media)

Is there a step beyond ‘Report for spam’ that we can take?

472 engineer cat  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:52:14pm

re: #462 FemNaziBitch

The Consequences of Legalizing “GI Jesus Tourette’s Syndrome”

ever heard of this site?

not the same as Gen. JC Christian?

473 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:52:22pm

re: #376 Lidane

While for the rest of us, Gor is just laughably bad fiction.

It’s Fifty Shades of Grey for sad sack men that can’t get laid.

As a person who writes really good kinky fiction, the fact that Fifty Shades became a huge hit is enough to sometimes make me doubt whether I should continue writing.

But then I realize I enjoy writing too much to stop. Who cares if I write a best seller? I’m happy with beer money.

474 allegro  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:54:03pm

re: #466 kerFuFFler

” Christian Domestic Discipline, or CDD as its adherents call it, is a movement that seeks to carry out God’s will…. that all women obey their husbands fastidiously — a dynamic that CDD thinks is best maintained through doling out out corporal punishments. Its few thousand practitioners, however, claim that it’s not domestic abuse.”

Sounds like they are trying to come up with a “religious observance” exception to condone spousal abuse. Jeeeeeebuss!

I suspect it’s coming up with a way to condone kinky sex.

475 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:54:14pm

re: #466 kerFuFFler

” Christian Domestic Discipline, or CDD as its adherents call it, is a movement that seeks to carry out God’s will…. that all women obey their husbands fastidiously — a dynamic that CDD thinks is best maintained through doling out out corporal punishments. Its few thousand practitioners, however, claim that it’s not domestic abuse.”

Sounds like they are trying to come up with a “religious observance” exception to condone spousal abuse. Jeeeeeebuss!

Sounds like a program every sadist and abuser will flock to.

476 engineer cat  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:54:26pm

Iowa Poll: 54% of Iowans favor creating path to citizenship

congressional republicans favor creating a path to exploited low wage illegal immigrant labor

477 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:55:28pm

re: #475 FemNaziBitch

Sounds like a program every sadist and abuser will flock to.

Fundie Christian S&M.

Heh.

478 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:56:14pm

re: #477 Dr Lizardo

Fundie Christian S&M.

Heh.

IIRC, S&M is consensual.

479 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:56:35pm

We interrupt this program to bring you footage of dogs reacting to citrus.

Youtube Video

480 freetoken  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:57:22pm

It’s interesting if you look at that Iowa poll, because it asked a question about the three hot wingnut talking points:

Image: iowa-poll-results-for-june-17-2013-p3-normal.gif

If this is indicative of other states it shows how the BENGHAZI!! manipulation has worked.

481 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:57:42pm

re: #478 FemNaziBitch

IIRC, S&M is consensual.

True that.

I can imagine….a young lady tied up, blindfolded, with her hubby vigorously applying a cat ‘o nine tails saying, “The power of Christ compels you!” like Max von Sydow in “The Exorcist”.

482 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:57:49pm

re: #401 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

or even the Story of O.

Ack! Loathed that one. Abusers pretending they were Doms. *blows raspberry*

483 Lidane  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:57:55pm

re: #473 Romantic Heretic

As a person who writes really good kinky fiction, the fact that Fifty Shades became a huge hit is enough to sometimes make me doubt whether I should continue writing.

It’s just Twilight fan fiction with the names changed. And I’m being serious. That’s really how the series got started.

I have a friend on LiveJournal that has been gleefully ripping those books apart chapter by chapter showing how bad they are. I’ll have to find the archive link where she and another writer are posting. It’s a hoot.

484 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:58:58pm

re: #403 Lidane

Or the unedited diaries by Anais Nin. I read those back in my 20’s. Eye opening, to say the least.

Oh yes. Those ones were good.

485 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:59:41pm

re: #462 FemNaziBitch

The Consequences of Legalizing “GI Jesus Tourette’s Syndrome”

ever heard of this site?

Yes. I avoid it as much as possible.

486 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2:59:58pm

re: #483 Lidane

I have a friend on LiveJournal that has been gleefully ripping those books apart chapter by chapter showing how bad they are. I’ll have to find the archive link where she and another writer are posting. It’s a hoot.

Oh, please do.

487 Occam's Guillotine  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:00:56pm

Of interest:

The average consumer unit has only heard of them recently, but drones go back back a way. Even the use of surveillance drones is nothing new:
MQM-57 Falconer

A variant of the BTT designated the RP-71,[1] later known as the MQM-57 Falconer, was built for battlefield reconnaissance, with first flight in 1955. The Falconer was similar in appearance to the Shelduck, but had a slightly longer and stockier fuselage. It had an autopilot system with radio-control backup, and could carry cameras, as well as illumination flares for night reconnaissance. Equipment was loaded through a hump in the back between the wings. Although it only had an endurance of a little more than a half-hour, making it of limited use, about 1,500 Falconers were built and the type was used internationally with several different military forces, remaining in service into the 1970s.

Pilotless photo drone takes aerial pictures (Popular Mechanics June 1954)

Helicopter drones? An example from the same period, armed no less.
QH-50 DASH

The Ryan 147 series, derived from a target drone, was used with notable success in Vietnam. Most of these had film cameras or electronic monitoring/jamming equipment, but some had video cameras for real time surveillance.

488 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:01:30pm

re: #479 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

We interrupt this program to bring you footage of dogs reacting to citrus.

EXCELLENT!!

489 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:02:47pm

re: #485 Gus

Yes. I avoid it as much as possible.

Why? Tell more… .

490 freetoken  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:03:54pm

Maybe the 101st Chairborne could pool their resources and launch a real invasion on some Evul country?

Two U.S. Navy landing craft up for auction; each seats 200, and a tank

T

wo Vietnam-era vessels docked at the Naval Station Great Lakes north of Chicago, landing craft that can hold 200 people each, are for sale, the U.S. Navy said.

An auction of the two LCM-8s, capable of plowing through surf onto a beach, opening a ramp and unleashing an amphibious assault, began Tuesday and ends Thursday afternoon on the govliquidation.com website, the Chicago Tribune reported Wednesday.

Bids started at $25 but reached $13,300 and $15,500 by late Wednesday afternoon.

The landing craft, each 74 feet long, 21 feet wide and made of welded steel, can carry up to 200 people and one M60 tank, and might be appropriate for cruising Lake Michigan, involvement in Caribbean scuba tours or staging a D-Day invasion, the newspaper noted.

[…]

491 freetoken  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:07:46pm

Some sad news for comic book fans:

ALTERNATIVE COMIC BOOKS CO-PUBLISHER DIES

Kim Thompson, co-publisher of influential Seattle-based publisher Fantagraphics Books - known for celebrated alternative comics, graphic novels and comic strip anthologies - has died.

[…]

The company does offer some intriguing reprints.

492 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:08:16pm

re: #467 Dr Lizardo

Six hours, huh? Even Louis Farrakhan doesn’t pontificate for that long.

That’s more in Fidel Castro’s league.

493 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:08:29pm

Now, this novel sounds good:

Children of the Jacaranda Tree

Neda is born in Tehran’s Evin Prison, where her mother is allowed to nurse her for a few months before the arms of a guard appear at the cell door one day and, simply, take her away. In another part of the city, three-year-old Omid witnesses the arrests of his political activist parents from his perch at their kitchen table, yogurt dripping from his fingertips. More than twenty years after the violent, bloody purge that took place inside Tehran’s prisons, Sheida learns that her father was one of those executed, that the silent void firmly planted between her and her mother all these years was not just the sad loss that comes with death, but the anguish and the horror of murder.

These are the Children of the Jacaranda Tree. Set in post-revolutionary Iran from 1983 to 2011, this stunning debut novel follows a group of mothers, fathers, children, and lovers, some related by blood, others brought together by the tide of history that washes over their lives. Finally, years later, it is the next generation that is left with the burden of the past and their country’s tenuous future as a new wave of protest and political strife begins.

494 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:09:36pm

re: #478 FemNaziBitch

IIRC, S&M is consensual.

Safe, Sane and Consensual are the watchwords in the kink community.

495 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:10:02pm

re: #494 Romantic Heretic

Safe, Sane and Consensual are the watchwords in the kink community.

Yeah, but not in the Christian community. There, it’s more like, “Get in the kitchen and make me a sammich.”

496 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:10:45pm

re: #495 thedopefishlives

Yeah, but not in the Christian Cult community. There, it’s more like, “Get in the kitchen and make me a sammich.”

FTFY

497 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:10:48pm

re: #489 FemNaziBitch

Why? Tell more… .

Oil and water.

498 darthstar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:11:06pm

Today’s safe word is cucumber. Please make a note of it.

499 freetoken  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:11:08pm

sigh…

Louisiana teen charged in ‘wrestling’ death of half sister, 5

The 13-year-old boy told them he knew wrestling on TV was fake, sheriff’s officials in a New Orleans suburb said.
But, according to authorities in Jefferson Parish, his account of practicing “WWE” style wrestling moves by punching, jumping on and slamming his 5-year-old half sister to the bed was all too real — and fatal.

Viloude Louis, 5, of Terrytown, was found unresponsive on a bathroom floor Sunday. She was taken to a hospital, where she was declared dead.

The boy, whose name was not released by authorities because of his age, has been accused of second-degree murder; he remained in Rivarde Juvenile Dention Center on Wednesday.

He “was smiling and appeared as though he took great pride in what he was doing,” sheriff’s Col. John Fortunato told CNN on Wednesday. “He showed no remorse while he was being interviewed in the presence of his mother.”

[…]

500 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:11:18pm

re: #496 FemNaziBitch

FTFY

I’ll take it, especially since I consider myself a Christian but not a member of a Christian Cult.

501 GeneJockey  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:12:13pm

re: #495 thedopefishlives

Yeah, but not in the Christian community. There, it’s more like, “Get in the kitchen and make me a sammich.”

From what Phyllis Schlafly said, they think consent is given for everything when you say “I do.”

502 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:12:18pm

re: #463 engineer cat

Tesla and Musk are looking to dominate the supply chain - particularly the power distribution system behind the electric battery packs. Not only are they looking to get the costs down on the cars, but on the batteries, and looking to licensing arrangements as well.

They’re positioning themselves quite nicely to do for all-electrics what Toyota did with the Prius. Put out a category killer and become synonymous with the type.

503 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:13:48pm

re: #492 Romantic Heretic

That’s more in Fidel Castro’s league.

LOLOLOL.

In the late 80s, up in Portland, Oregon, I got invited to an NOI rally by two NOI members, upon whom I apparently made a very favorable impression. Let’s say for once, I truly stood out in life, and oooh, nelly, I mean it. Fortunately, the attendees were all very nice, and I even met Farrakhan face-to-face. I didn’t hear anything anti-Semitic at this particular event, but it was the usual NOI stuff. I have to say, Farrakhan is one hell of a speaker; he’s a man who knows how to use the power of the spoken word like few others. I find his message…..bizarre, but well-delivered.

504 GeneJockey  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:14:21pm

re: #499 freetoken

sigh…

Louisiana teen charged in ‘wrestling’ death of half sister, 5

It must be Obama’s Fault….somehow…

505 efuseakay  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:14:54pm

Looks like a nice place to play frisbee. Maybe some hacky sack.

506 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:15:36pm

re: #501 GeneJockey

From what Phyllis Schlafly said, they think consent is given for everything when you say “I do.”

You pretty much nailed it. Women are conditioned to believe their fathers, then their husbands, are the ultimate authority - and the men know this full well, and take full advantage of it. A common topic on Christian message boards, in fact, is the concept of spousal rape - what happens when a husband is horny and the wife absolutely isn’t? Can she say no, what should she do, etc. You can imagine how those arguments usually go.

507 freetoken  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:15:39pm

re: #505 efuseakay

Looks like a nice place to play frisbee. Maybe some hacky sack.

Drum circle.

508 darthstar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:16:36pm
509 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:16:37pm

re: #505 efuseakay

Looks like a nice place to play frisbee. Maybe some hacky sack.

Big remote-control model helicopters. Black ones.

510 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:17:29pm

re: #506 thedopefishlives

-what happens when a husband is horny and the wife absolutely isn’t?

As my ex-wife once said, “You have hands, don’t you? You’re not a paraplegic.”

511 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:17:50pm

re: #507 freetoken

Drum circle.

Metal detector!

512 GeneJockey  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:18:24pm

re: #506 thedopefishlives

You pretty much nailed it. Women are conditioned to believe their fathers, then their husbands, are the ultimate authority - and the men know this full well, and take full advantage of it. A common topic on Christian message boards, in fact, is the concept of spousal rape - what happens when a husband is horny and the wife absolutely isn’t? Can she say no, what should she do, etc. You can imagine how those arguments usually go.

Yeesh.

513 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:19:09pm

re: #512 GeneJockey

Yeesh.

Yeah. I love my religion and all, but there are a lot of people in churches saying a lot of really DUMB things.

514 freetoken  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:19:11pm

Steve goes all geological:

Steve Jobs considers his legacy in an unreleased clip from 1994

Youtube Video

515 GeneJockey  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:22:00pm

re: #513 thedopefishlives

Yeah. I love my religion and all, but there are a lot of people in churches saying a lot of really DUMB things.

Well, some folks use their faith as a shield and a security blanket, and others use it as a shackles and a gag.
//

516 freetoken  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:22:31pm

I sort of feel that way about blogs and leaving comments on them.

We’re just another layer of cultural sediment, on top of which will come another layer, then another…

100 years from now no one will have known I even existed, or probably any of us for that matter. (A few of you who have grandchildren may be known, if their children are into their family tree.)

All of us are just passing by, our products (such as they are) being the detritus of civilization.

517 GeneJockey  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:22:38pm

And not to be used on themselves.

(referring to the shackles and gag of my previous post)

518 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:24:17pm

re: #489 FemNaziBitch

Why? Tell more… .

I could look for more examples but here.

Israel’s Latest Assault on Gaza - What Really Happened
Saturday, 01 December 2012 12:07 By Norman Finkelstein,

519 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:26:02pm

re: #517 GeneJockey

And not to be used on themselves.

I’m of the impression that some of these types are just suffering from extreme sexual and/or emotional repression. If they just cut themselves loose for a month or two, maybe they’d mellow out and not be such total douchecanoes.

520 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:28:30pm

re: #516 freetoken

I sort of feel that way about blogs and leaving comments on them.

We’re just another layer of cultural sediment, on top of which will come another layer, then another…

100 years from now no one will have known I even existed, or probably any of us for that matter. (A few of you who have grandchildren may be known, if their children are into their family tree.)

All of us are just passing by, our products (such as they are) being the detritus of civilization.

You could always burn an important temple or something. Some kind of hero:

en.wikipedia.org

521 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:32:43pm

Here’s some derpy entertainment for a derpy Wednesday evening: Image: Th3rcaB.jpg

522 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:38:22pm

re: #516 freetoken

On the other hand, the only possible experience of the universe is from the individual level.

523 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:40:37pm

re: #503 Dr Lizardo

LOLOLOL.

In the late 80s, up in Portland, Oregon, I got invited to an NOI rally by two NOI members, upon whom I apparently made a very favorable impression. Let’s say for once, I truly stood out in life, and oooh, nelly, I mean it. Fortunately, the attendees were all very nice, and I even met Farrakhan face-to-face. I didn’t hear anything anti-Semitic at this particular event, but it was the usual NOI stuff. I have to say, Farrakhan is one hell of a speaker; he’s a man who knows how to use the power of the spoken word like few others. I find his message…..bizarre, but well-delivered.

Public Speaking is a Talent that is difficult to acquire, IMHO. It takes charisma that one has to be inborn.

I find myself respecting those who use and hone that talent, even if I don’t agree with the message.

Some take it to the level of an Art.

524 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:41:08pm

re: #505 efuseakay

Looks like a nice place to play frisbee. Maybe some hacky sack.

A dog would be necessary in that setting.

525 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:41:52pm

re: #506 thedopefishlives

You pretty much nailed it. Women are conditioned to believe their fathers, then their husbands, are the ultimate authority - and the men know this full well, and take full advantage of it. A common topic on Christian message boards, in fact, is the concept of spousal rape - what happens when a husband is horny and the wife absolutely isn’t? Can she say no, what should she do, etc. You can imagine how those arguments usually go.

Lay back and think of England?

How many children are conceived this way?

526 Lidane  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:41:58pm

re: #519 thedopefishlives

I’m of the impression that some of these types are just suffering from extreme sexual and/or emotional repression. If they just cut themselves loose for a month or two, maybe they’d mellow out and not be such total douchecanoes.

Pretty much, yeah.

527 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:42:52pm

re: #515 GeneJockey

Well, some folks use their faith as a shield and a security blanket, and others use it as a shackles and a gag.
//

some use it as a drug. They go from alcohol or other intoxicants to Jesus and think it’s healthy.

528 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:43:39pm

re: #519 thedopefishlives

I’m of the impression that some of these types are just suffering from extreme sexual and/or emotional repression. If they just cut themselves loose for a month or two, maybe they’d mellow out and not be such total douchecanoes.

What is it? The more repression the more perversion …

529 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:45:15pm

re: #518 Gus

I could look for more examples but here.

Israel’s Latest Assault on Gaza - What Really Happened
Saturday, 01 December 2012 12:07 By Norman Finkelstein,

He also writes for Mondowiess. Just another hateful loon.

530 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:45:31pm

re: #525 FemNaziBitch

Lay back and think of England?

How many children are conceived this way?

Too many. Especially in Christian communities where birth control is considered against God’s will.

531 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:46:47pm

COLORADO:

Colorado Senate president will face recall election forced by gun-rights activists

DENVER — first-ever recall election of a Colorado state legislator moved closer to fruition Tuesday after it was announced that there are sufficient valid signatures to proceed with the recall of Senate President John Morse.

Read more: washingtontimes.com
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

532 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:46:54pm

re: #528 FemNaziBitch

What is it? The more repression the more perversion …

That reminds me of a line from H.P. Lovecraft, where he spoke of a region where the people were so repressed it was to the point of morbidity; naturally, the perversions found in their annals would make Sodom and Gomorrah pale in comparison, or something to that effect.

533 GeneJockey  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:48:19pm

re: #519 thedopefishlives

I’m of the impression that some of these types are just suffering from extreme sexual and/or emotional repression. If they just cut themselves loose for a month or two, maybe they’d mellow out and not be such total douchecanoes.

My impression is more that they’re a bunch of sad sacks who feel like there’s nothing in their lives under their control, so they want to be in control of their home, their wives, their children. Many of them are the same clowns who prefer to believe in the certainty of Biblical Creation, rather than the ‘uncertainty’ of Evolution, and Science in general.

534 wrenchwench  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:48:41pm

re: #532 Dr Lizardo

That reminds me of a line from H.P. Lovecraft, where he spoke of a region where the people were so repressed it was to the point of morbidity; naturally, the perversions found in their annals would make Sodom and Gomorrah pale in comparison, or something to that effect.

I see what you almost did there.

535 freetoken  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:48:51pm

House GOP keeps on rolling:


House votes to cut food stamps

536 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:49:05pm

Colorado John Morse Voting Record

537 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:49:31pm

re: #533 GeneJockey

My impression is more that they’re a bunch of sad sacks who feel like there’s nothing in their lives under their control, so they want to be in control of their home, their wives, their children. Many of them are the same clowns who prefer to believe in the certainty of Biblical Creation, rather than the ‘uncertainty’ of Evolution, and Science in general.

Oh, I’ve no doubt that’s true in many cases, as well.

538 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:49:55pm

re: #535 freetoken

House GOP keeps on rolling:

House votes to cut food stamps

THERE ARE NO FUCKING FOOD STAMPS!

539 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:50:03pm

re: #534 wrenchwench

Heh.

And now, giant snakes have learned how to open doors. We are well and truly screwed.

buzzfeed.com

540 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:51:46pm

re: #529 Killgore Trout

He also writes for Mondowiess. Just another hateful loon.

It’s amazing how commentary has become news these days. Especially ones that come from fringe sites. So if someone is pondering “I think some day the NSA will spy on environmentalists” become a fact for it’s readership. We thence have people walking around saying, “the NSA spies on environmentalists” as though it were SOP.

541 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:52:49pm

re: #539 Dr Lizardo

Heh.

And now, giant snakes have learned how to open doors. We are well and truly screwed.

buzzfeed.com

I purposely don’t have that kind of handle on any of my doors. The regular ones are childproof, Labrador and Snake proof. But not, unfortunately, German Shepherd Proof.

542 wrenchwench  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:54:02pm

re: #539 Dr Lizardo

Heh.

And now, giant snakes have learned how to open doors. We are well and truly screwed.

buzzfeed.com

I, for one, welcome our new ophidian overlords.

543 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:56:37pm

re: #542 wrenchwench

I, for one, welcome our new ophidian overlords.

My Feline Overlord heard that and will now inform the rest of the Feline Overlord Community. You really need to be careful what you say outloud!

544 wrenchwench  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:58:22pm

re: #543 FemNaziBitch

My Feline Overlord heard that and will now inform the rest of the Feline Overlord Community. You really need to be careful what you say outloud!

I think my ophidian overlord can swallow your Feline Overlords whole.

545 krypto  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:58:54pm

re: #99 aagcobb

There are at least ten million real Americans at this patriotic rally, and Fox News will broadcast the footage to prove it!//

I couldn’t find this non-event reported on CNN, but sure enough, Fox has video coverage under the title

“Reports of Tea Party’s demise greatly exaggerated?”
Thousands attend rally to protest abuse at the IRS

video.foxnews.com

The video is one huge plug for the tea party along with the obligatory denunciation of Big Government.

546 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:59:21pm

re: #540 Gus

It’s amazing how commentary has become news these days. Especially ones that come from fringe sites. So if someone is pondering “I think some day the NSA will spy on environmentalists” become a fact for it’s readership. We thence have people walking around saying, “the NSA spies on environmentalists” as though it were SOP.

That has always gotten me too. I wonder if people just don’t pay attention or if it’s a common brain thing that marketers and propagantists use.

I had a friend that did that to me all the time. I would explain my thoughts or feelings in a “may be” kind of way and later she would say “YOU SAID this was that”…” I would respond, “NO, I said, I felt this was that or I wondered if this was that.”

547 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 3:59:37pm

re: #544 wrenchwench

I think my ophidian overlord can swallow your Feline Overlords whole.

only if he wins the fight.

548 Lidane  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:01:32pm

re: #528 FemNaziBitch

What is it? The more repression the more perversion …

Which explains hentai tentacle porn. Heh.

549 wrenchwench  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:01:56pm
550 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:03:24pm

re: #548 Lidane

Which explains hentai tentacle porn. Heh.

Strange, strange, strange.

551 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:03:30pm

re: #523 FemNaziBitch

Public Speaking is a Talent that is difficult to acquire, IMHO. It takes charisma that one has to be inborn.

I find myself respecting those who use and hone that talent, even if I don’t agree with the message.

Some take it to the level of an Art.

For your enjoyment:

MST3K - Speech: Platform Posture and Appearance

Youtube Video

MST3K - Speech: Using Your Voice

Youtube Video

552 GeneJockey  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:04:29pm

re: #548 Lidane

Which explains hentai tentacle porn. Heh.

Definitely NOT googling that.

553 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:05:47pm

re: #552 GeneJockey

Definitely NOT googling that.

The Dream of the Fisherman’s Wife -1814

Image: Dream-of-the-Fishermans-Wife.jpg

554 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:08:20pm

HA! I have confidence in Young People.

555 freetoken  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:09:17pm

Did you know that there was a major “natural” disaster in India?

You’d never know from American media:

Uttarakhand toll may be in thousands, over 70,000 still missing

556 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:12:10pm

re: #555 freetoken

Did you know that there was a major “natural” disaster in India?

You’d never know from American media:

Uttarakhand toll may be in thousands, over 70,000 still missing

Just Peasants and Parasites

557 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:12:28pm

re: #540 Gus

It’s amazing how commentary has become news these days. Especially ones that come from fringe sites. So if someone is pondering “I think some day the NSA will spy on environmentalists” become a fact for it’s readership. We thence have people walking around saying, “the NSA spies on environmentalists” as though it were SOP.

I came across this on Reddit today on why Americans aren’t going to revolt…
reddit.com

In short Revolution requires the following things:

Actual problems

A united cause with clear objectives and solutions

A Leader or group of leaders

A trained population to commit themselves to either violence or non violence

The guy is essentially correct. Without actual problems or dangers people like to pretend. They imagine they are persecuted or that something really big is happening but deep down they know it’s not true. Glenn Beck nor his fans really believe there is a secret communist plot. Greenwald fans don’t really believe Obama’s NSA has unlimited powers to crush dissent. Deep down they know it’s not true. Just fairy stories for excitement and fun.

558 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:13:21pm

re: #543 FemNaziBitch

My Feline Overlord heard that and will now inform the rest of the Feline Overlord Community. You really need to be careful what you say outloud!

There are networks scarier than PRISM.

559 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:14:15pm

re: #557 Killgore Trout

I came across this on Reddit today on why Americans aren’t going to revolt…
reddit.com

The guy is essentially correct. Without actual problems or dangers people like to pretend. They imagine they are persecuted or that something really big is happening but deep down they know it’s not true. Glenn Beck nor his fans really believe there is a secret communist plot. Greenwald fans don’t really believe Obama’s NSA has unlimited powers to crush dissent. Deep down they know it’s not true. Just fairy stories for excitement and fun.

Except that there are many who are brainwashed into believing it is true. They have guns.

560 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:14:42pm

re: #471 wrenchwench

Is there a step beyond ‘Report for spam’ that we can take?

Open the image and click “Flag media” at the lower right corner.

561 Mattand  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:15:25pm

re: #557 Killgore Trout

I came across this on Reddit today on why Americans aren’t going to revolt…
reddit.com

The guy is essentially correct. Without actual problems or dangers people like to pretend. They imagine they are persecuted or that something really big is happening but deep down they know it’s not true. Glenn Beck nor his fans really believe there is a secret communist plot. Greenwald fans don’t really believe Obama’s NSA has unlimited powers to crush dissent. Deep down they know it’s not true. Just fairy stories for excitement and fun.

While I don’t expect a revolt, I’ve met enough Glenn Beck fans to dispute the “Deep down, they know it’s BS” theory. They really honestly believe they live in Germany 1933.

562 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:16:05pm

Irish marriage equality video, nice, direct to the point:

Youtube Video

563 Mattand  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:16:15pm

re: #464 Vicious Babushka

What right-wing racism? (Please flag media)

Done and done.

564 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:17:33pm

re: #559 FemNaziBitch

Except that there are many who are brainwashed into believing it is true. They have guns.

Those are very rare cases. When people actually believe these things they become very dangerous. It’s still dangerous rhetoric to play around with but thankfully very few people take action on these imaginary threats.

565 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:18:52pm

Town in Alaska hits 95 degrees

566 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:19:27pm

bbl

567 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:23:29pm

“Coach” Dave Daubenmire wants to know why pastors aren’t preaching about the fact that the federal government is setting up FEMA concentration camps all over the country. - See more at: rightwingwatch.org

All I know is these FEMA camps must be pretty damn efficient because no one knows where they are, anyone who works on the project or any real details about it. You would think the House GOP might notice a line item in the budget about them.

568 freetoken  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:25:04pm

re: #567 Kragar

It’s that special cloaking device (developed at Area 51) that’s hiding them.

569 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:25:50pm

re: #567 Kragar

“Coach” Dave Daubenmire wants to know why pastors aren’t preaching about the fact that the federal government is setting up FEMA concentration camps all over the country. - See more at: rightwingwatch.org

All I know is these FEMA camps must be pretty damn efficient because no one knows where they are, anyone who works on the project or any real details about it. You would think the House GOP might notice a line item in the budget about them.

FEMA got smart and posted them as Christian Bible Education Summer Camps. Camouflage!
/

570 freetoken  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:26:05pm

re: #565 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Town in Alaska hits 95 degrees

It often gets over 90F in Alaska in the summertime.

Oh… wait.. it’s still spring.

571 wrenchwench  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:27:23pm

re: #560 Vicious Babushka

Open the image and click “Flag media” at the lower right corner.

Thanks! Done.

572 Weet  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:28:18pm

So effing sick of these guys, and all conspiracy theorists. Sent to me today:

573 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:28:46pm

re: #535 freetoken

House GOP keeps on rolling:

House votes to cut food stamps

My representative was proud to do her part:

Farm Bill presents a great opportunity for reform (Opinion from U.S. Rep. Martha Roby)

al.com


We have a remote chance to get rid of her in 2014. Working on it.

574 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:28:49pm
575 Lidane  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:29:05pm

Why is Faux News derping about the Fed today? Is Bernanke a seekrit Moozlim today or something?

576 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:29:39pm

Dana Loesch, after enjoying the Audit The IRS Tea Party hootenanny, is breathlessly Tweeting about being groped by TSA.

I don’t think taunting TSA with bombs is a good idea, but she could piss on them.

577 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:30:43pm
Rep. Phil Gingrey (R-Ga.) said grade-school students should be taught classes about traditional gender roles in a floor speech on Tuesday.

“You know, maybe part of the problem is we need to go back into the schools at a very early age, maybe at the grade-school level, and have a class for the young girls and have a class for the young boys and say, you know, this is what’s important,” Gingrey said.

Gingrey was speaking is support of the Defense of Marriage Act, currently under review by the Supreme Court.

“This is what a father does that is maybe a little different, maybe a little bit better than the talents that a mom has in a certain area. And the same thing for the young girls, that, you know, this is what a mom does, and this is what is important from the standpoint of that union which we call marriage.”

AKA the Get Your Bitch Ass in the Kitchen and Make Me a Sammich Bill. If these “talent” difference are in fact enshrined in gender, then why does that need to be taught? You’d think, if true, that would be self evident. This guy’s just another GOP bigot, and currently on track to be the next Senator from Georgia.

578 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:31:18pm

re: #557 Killgore Trout

Sorry, you’re wrong on both counts. You’re basically just overlooking the human ability to hold contradictory thoughts in their head, though in this case it’s more of an emotion. They sincerely believe in, if not the powers themselves, the imminence of those powers. NOt all, but a lot of them. A lot of people, for example, think Obama has raised taxes on the middle class. They don’t know that’s not true deep down. They really believe it. People really believed ACORN was this evil organization that was signing up people wrongly. They really do.

They don’t have to revolt because they can elect people and they like doing that. They may run out of that liking eventually, and then we’ll have trouble.

The radicalization of the people is an actual problem, and it’s getting to be more and more of one.

579 Kragar  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:31:37pm

re: #574 Gus

And yet nothing at Variety mentions it as of 15 seconds ago.

580 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:33:01pm

re: #579 Kragar

And yet nothing at Variety mentions it as of 15 seconds ago.

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581 Lidane  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:33:02pm

WTF? Why would you fire your own founder and spokesman?

Men’s Wearhouse icon won’t like the way he looks — he’s out!

582 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:34:31pm

re: #580 Gus

“L’avvio della nuova stagione vede Tony Soprano (James Gandolfini) in condizioni critiche dopo l’incidente d’arma da fuoco provocato dal vecchio Junior (Dominic Chianese)”

Car accident. He was in critical condition.

No. That’s ‘fire arms accident’ provoked by Junior. It sounds like an old plot synopsis.

583 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:34:45pm

Nix that.

584 Gus  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:35:02pm

re: #582 Decatur Deb

No. That’s ‘fire arms accident’ provoked by Junior. It sounds like an old plot synopsis.

Right. I just noticed that. Derp.

585 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:35:45pm

re: #584 Gus

Right. I just noticed that. Derp.

Owe you one for the fat joke.

586 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:37:52pm

re: #461 freetoken

I’ve always had a special place in my heart for Iowa. :)

Any tourist attractions there, I want to give them my money.

587 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:53:40pm

re: #586 ProTARDISLiberal

I’ve always had a special place in my heart for Iowa. :)

Any tourist attractions there, I want to give them my money.

Exquisite museum/Aquarium of the Mississippi in Dubuque, Iowa. Can’t say too much for the rest of the state.

588 Patricia Kayden  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:01:30pm

re: #39 b.d.

They have bigger rallies than that protesting Nigerian phone scammers yet this will be reported by mass news media.

Until I saw the photos on this website, I was under the impression that the T’Bagger rally was huge. Boy, did MSNBC fool me. From the pictures here it looks like less than 100 people.

589 jonhendry  Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:38:20pm

re: #68 FemNaziBitch

WTF IS THIS? from my fb

It’s edited. It was originally some kid tweeting to some rapper demanding a retweet or he’d shoot his sister.

Which, yes, stupid. Apparently his mother was present and got pissed off at him. Someone sent the cops, who found it was a BB gun, and left.

Apparently someone went to the trouble of photoshopping it, changing the brother to the girl’s mother, and threatening to shoot if she wasn’t given free stuff by Beyonce.

ie, some racist shit photoshopped it.

590 William of Orange  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 6:18:38am

LOL @ Intimodated.


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