Wednesday Open Thread
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Here’s one of those open threads we don’t see much any more - hey, open thread, why you no come around here no more?
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:35:23pm |
Meanwhile, sad news: James Gandolfini Dead — ‘Sopranos’ Star Dies in Italy | TMZ.com
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Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:37:24pm |
TMZ screwed up. That’s an Italian synopsis of a Sopranos episode.
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Lidane Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:37:50pm |
She’s gonna need more butter to wiggle out of this one, y’all:
Paula Deen on her dream “southern plantation wedding” http://t.co/qIKgCKApUA— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) June 19, 2013
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EdDantes Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:39:06pm |
re: #1 Charles Johnson
Very sad news about Gandolfini. I have been a fan of Tom Petty for over 30 years.
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freetoken Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:39:25pm |
Barry is the second named storm of June 2013, and its formation date of June 19 is a full six weeks earlier than the usual August 1 date of formation of the season’s second storm. Only two hurricane seasons since 1851 have had as many as three tropical storms form in June: 1936 and 1968. The formation of two Gulf of Mexico storms so early in the year does not necessarily suggest that we will have an active hurricane season. June storms forming in the Caribbean and Tropical Atlantic are typically a harbinger of an active hurricane season, though.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:39:49pm |
CNN now confirming that James Gandolfini died from an apparent stroke.
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Kragar Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:40:04pm |
re: #1 Charles Johnson
Meanwhile, sad news: James Gandolfini Dead — ‘Sopranos’ Star Dies in Italy | TMZ.com
Well… shit. I checked when I heard a few minutes ago and there was nothing.
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Lidane Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:40:38pm |
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Gus Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:40:42pm |
re: #8 Charles Johnson
CNN now confirming that James Gandolfini died from an apparent stroke.
@tedstew @AndrewKroll Fuck.— Gus (@Gus_802) June 19, 2013
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Amory Blaine Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:41:05pm |
Dang sad news. Sometimes when we’re bored I set The Sopranos on a loop at the house. We loved that show.
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darthstar Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:41:42pm |
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Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:42:27pm |
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A Mom Anon Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:42:37pm |
re: #4 Lidane
I don’t get the appeal of her. Never did. My grandma was a better cook and a lot more charming and entertaining. She would have been a perfect candidate for a show and cookbooks. She died before all that became a “thing”. I always found Paula Deen to be annoying, maybe it’s because I live in the South but I’m not from here, I don’t know. All the shit I hear around here, it wouldn’t surprise me in the least to find out she drops the N-bomb, it’s not an uncommon thing if people don’t see anyone of color in the vicinity.
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Dr Lizardo Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:43:20pm |
Here in the Czech Republic, the political scandal which brought down PM Petr Nečas has had an interesting side-effect: we may soon have the country’s first-ever woman PM, Miroslava Němcová. It would be a historic first; since the nation’s birth in the aftermath of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, there’s never been a woman as Head of Government.
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Kragar Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:43:30pm |
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darthstar Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:43:37pm |
We've seen some dumb partisanship lately, but this is really impressive. http://t.co/iLYqkz68XM— AdamSerwer (@AdamSerwer) June 19, 2013
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darthstar Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:44:12pm |
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Kragar Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:44:24pm |
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darthstar Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:44:29pm |
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freetoken Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:47:13pm |
re: #21 darthstar
It’s not like there was a religious civil war in Ireland, or anything.
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A Mom Anon Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:47:29pm |
re: #21 darthstar
Great. My Catholic, heavily armed, rwnj neighbors are going to be spewing this shit for days now. God I’m so over this bullshit. And of course no one will bother to go look up the entire thing he said and apply some fucking context to it because it’s just easier to hate on liberals and the President.
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Targetpractice Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:48:01pm |
Microsoft spends days getting beaten around the head and shoulders about its DRM policies and finally does away with them. Guess good things come to those who wait.
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Amory Blaine Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:48:39pm |
Rebranding!!
WISGOP Uses Stock Photo Of Diverse People To Prove They Are Diverse
The Wisconsin Republican Party is attempting to re-brand itself as a more inclusive entity. They are co-opting traditional Democratic strategies like opening a whole bunch of campaign offices in Wisconsin, voter registration efforts and block captain organizing - we know this from the giant banner on the state website which asks viewers to “BECOME A COMMUNITY CAPTAIN!” sounding suspiciously like the conservative pejorative - community organizer.
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EdDantes Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:49:02pm |
re: #25 darthstar
In one episode he reveals that he speaks Romany, ie,Gypsy.
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Kragar Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:49:10pm |
re: #28 Targetpractice
Microsoft spends days getting beaten around the head and shoulders about its DRM policies and finally does away with them. Guess good things come to those who wait.
Yeah, I’ll totally buy an Xbox now…
Oh wait, no I won’t.
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Targetpractice Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:50:28pm |
re: #31 Kragar
Yeah, I’ll totally buy an Xbox now…
Oh wait, no I won’t.
I’m not not in a rush to buy either, but this sort of makes me hope that they’ll match this next year with a stripped-down system that dumps the Kinect.
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GeneJockey Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:50:34pm |
re: #26 freetoken
It’s not like there was a religious civil war in Ireland, or anything.
Of course not. Just ask Peter King.
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freetoken Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:52:24pm |
Headline encapsulates the whole movement:
Tea Partiers at U.S. Capitol pay homage to Bachmann
Homage… to Michele Bachmann.
Oh, and they claim the crowd size:
While Palin was nowhere in sight, the Minnesota Republican assured a crowd of several thousand that despite her pending retirement from Congress, “I’m here to say to the liberals I’m here for a long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long time.” (That’s eight “longs” for those keeping track).
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freetoken Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:53:27pm |
New video mocking the GOP in all their glory:
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Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:54:01pm |
re: #34 freetoken
Headline encapsulates the whole movement:
Tea Partiers at U.S. Capitol pay homage to Bachmann
Homage… to Michele Bachmann.
Oh, and they claim the crowd size:
God wants her to be a missionary in Yalibu, PNG.
No, really. He told me.
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calochortus Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:54:33pm |
re: #29 Amory Blaine
Rebranding!!
WISGOP Uses Stock Photo Of Diverse People To Prove They Are Diverse
Wow, a couple of their “Community Captains” look way too young to vote, or even be going door to door without adult supervision. Who says the GOP doesn’t appeal to young people!!!
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Amory Blaine Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:55:41pm |
re: #30 EdDantes
In one episode he reveals that he speaks Romany, ie,Gypsy.
I remember the hash in the brownies episode. He he classic.
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freetoken Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:56:36pm |
I dare anyone to run that video in a campaign.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:57:31pm |
re: #38 Amory Blaine
I remember the hash in the brownies episode. He he classic.
The Amish man stuck in the city who takes the homeless kid to the farm.
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EdDantes Wed, Jun 19, 2013 4:59:23pm |
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Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:00:25pm |
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Stanghazi Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:00:58pm |
re: #1 Charles Johnson
Meanwhile, sad news: James Gandolfini Dead — ‘Sopranos’ Star Dies in Italy | TMZ.com
Just got home and saw that.
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5 fucking 1.
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Amory Blaine Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:02:11pm |
No videos for me. I’m trying to sip data. Reduced to Verizons 4G. What a rip off. I had it 8 years ago and it’s the same price as back then. Except then I had unlimited data then and now it’s 6 gigs.
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mikeymom Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:03:01pm |
i’m also sad at the death of author vince flynn-47-prostate cancer
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Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:03:49pm |
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GeneJockey Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:04:27pm |
re: #44 Stanghazi
Just got home and saw that.
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5 fucking 1.
A few years back, I realized I’d reached the age where a surprising number of conversations with folks my age begin with, “Hey, do you remember Such-and-such? He was about our age? He just dropped dead.”
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b.d. Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:05:30pm |
re: #48 Decatur Deb
They are interviewing Larry King about James now? I thought King decided he would rather spend time with the Rooskie TV than with CNN?
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freetoken Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:05:39pm |
The wingnuts over at hotair are going hot and heavy for the Elbert Guillory video, but as Weigel points out:
The Ultimate Black Republican Pseudohistory Conversion Speech
Yes, lots of pseudohistory. And, Guillory was a Republican most of the time, but only switched to the Democratic Party when Obama came along:
en.wikipedia.org
He’s also the guy who argued against a strong science-only curriculum because of his experience with “faith healing”, i.e., quackery.
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Mattand Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:06:33pm |
re: #1 Charles Johnson
Meanwhile, sad news: James Gandolfini Dead — ‘Sopranos’ Star Dies in Italy | TMZ.com
Well, that sucks.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:09:16pm |
re: #51 b.d.
They are interviewing Larry King about James now? I thought King decided he would rather spend time with the Rooskie TV than with CNN?
Hell, I thought Larry King was dead.
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Bubblehead II Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:09:22pm |
Here’s one of those open threads we don’t see much any more - hey, open thread, why you no come around here no more?
And if I am not mistaken, open registration.
RELEASE THE TROLLS!! The Lizard Nation wishes to feast!
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EdDantes Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:09:52pm |
re: #47 mikeymom
I just started reading his novels. He was a real talent.I feel as bad as when Michael Crichton died,
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:09:53pm |
re: #43 Decatur Deb
Probably hates the Brandenburgs.
I love the Brandenburgs!
Watch the violinist standing on the far left. She looks like she’s going to poke somebody’s eye out with her bow.
Youtube Video
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EPR-radar Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:09:57pm |
re: #55 Bubblehead II
Here’s one of those open threads we don’t see much any more - hey, open thread, why you no come around here no more?
And if I am not mistaken, open registration.
RELEASE THE TROLLS!! The Lizard Nation wishes to feast!
Can I haz creationist chew-toy?
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freetoken Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:10:00pm |
Allen West won’t rule out primary against Rubio
We can only hope.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:13:50pm |
re: #58 Vicious Babushka
I love the Brandenburgs!
Watch the violinist standing on the far left. She looks like she’s going to poke somebody’s eye out with her bow.
Overexpressive, low-cut gown—obviously the kammerorchesterslut.
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Skip Intro Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:16:36pm |
re: #60 freetoken
Allen West won’t rule out primary against Rubio
We can only hope.
What a wimp. Go for Pres, Allen. The debates will top the craziness of 2012.
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Bubblehead II Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:17:27pm |
re: #59 EPR-radar
Can I haz creationist chew-toy?
Sure. There may be one or two that shows up. I myself prefer the misogynists.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:17:27pm |
re: #61 Decatur Deb
Overexpressive, low-cut gown—obviously the kammerorchesterslut.
Orchestra musicians should not be standing, unless they’re soloists.
And female musicians should wear tuxedos, just like the men. They can wear a long skirt or trousers, but they have to wear a tux.
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Targetpractice Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:17:54pm |
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EPR-radar Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:18:24pm |
re: #62 Skip Intro
What a wimp. Go for Pres, Allen. The debates will top the craziness of 2012.
2016 GOP primary debate dream field: Palin, Bachmann, West, Perry, Rand Paul, Santorum, Cain.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:18:27pm |
re: #65 Vicious Babushka
Orchestra musicians should not be standing, unless they’re soloists.
Or tympanists.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:18:57pm |
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Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:20:46pm |
re: #69 Vicious Babushka
Good point, but this is a chamber orchestra.
So I guess we’re not going to get “The Lone Ranger”.
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freetoken Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:22:46pm |
Worth checking out:
Reshaping the Right: How Right-Wing Emigrants Conquered North Idaho
[…]
It was part of a much larger pattern: Increasingly mobile Americans were deliberately seeking out communities that reinforced their own social and political values. Elsewhere, conservative emigrants helped push certain suburbs of Boise; Denver; Colorado Springs, Colo.; Salt Lake City; and Phoenix further to the right, while liberals relocated to urban centers and college towns. The shift had a polarizing effect: In 1976, less than one-quarter of Americans lived in counties that voted overwhelmingly—by more than a 20 percent margin—for either presidential candidate. By 2004, nearly half of Americans did.
[…]
When California’s conservative bulwarks faltered in the 1990s under the weight of rising taxes, stricter regulations, Mexican immigration and the state’s steady liberalization, conservatives went looking for what they believed they had lost. Many told me that Kootenai County became their idea of “God’s Country”—an American utopia, a refuge from “a world turned upside down.”As one transplant told Egan, “There’s this desire to return to a simpler, nostalgic life, even though we don’t really have any idea what that is.”
[…]
At a Central Committee meeting after the 2008 election, Jacobson saw an opening when another former Californian, Bob Pedersen, asked for help to run for Congress. Pedersen came from Orange County, where he’d been active in the early evangelical movement and worked as a volunteer pastor. In his view, the pivotal point in California’s decline came in 1992, when police officers charged with brutally beating a black man, Rodney King, were acquitted of criminal charges, setting off riots across Los Angeles. Pedersen recalled standing on his porch with a gun, looking over that urbanized valley, the horizon lit with fire.
“It looked like Armageddon,” he recalled. “I said, ‘I’m getting out of this. I’m not going to raise my kids here.’ “
[…]
In the spring of 2009, Pedersen placed an ad in the weekly Nickel’s Worth: “Are you tired of the Republican Party? Conservatives Unite!” On April 1, 2009, 130 people packed into a pizza parlor in Post Falls, west of Coeur d’Alene. Pedersen was nervous, not expecting such a crowd. Through a hand-held microphone, he explained that the same kind of liberals leading the country toward financial and moral ruin had infiltrated the local Republican Party.
“They’re just godless,” he said. “They aren’t Republican.”
Pedersen vetted candidates for precinct captainships according to what he called “The Conservative Creed.” It began, “Do you believe God is the foundation of this country, and do you believe in God?” and then asked about states’ rights—“a protection against tyranny of a federal government”—and the right to bear arms. Finally, it asked, “Do you stand for the traditional marriage and do you stand against abortion?” Each candidate was tested twice.
[…]
“Party of God” - indeed.
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William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:23:26pm |
re: #70 EdDantes
I love Bach and I am not ashamed.
We had a troll during the election cycle, Alaska Something (Kim?). She’d get scared and run away whenever we started talking classical music. Bach really terrified her. Brandenburgs - the ultimate anti-Troll anthems.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:23:43pm |
Definitely the stupidest fucking right wing post of the day, by far: ‘Evidence of the Depth and Breadth of Obama’s Radicalism’: President Suggests Catholic Schools Are Divisive | Twitchy.
There is something seriously wrong with these people.
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b.d. Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:24:09pm |
re: #67 EPR-radar
The birthers will going after Cruz, Cruz going after Paul, Paul will be going after Rubio, Rubio will be going after Jindal, Jindal will be going after Demons, Demons will be going after JEB, JEB will be going after Cruz. Almost a perfect circle.
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GeneJockey Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:26:03pm |
re: #72 freetoken
As one transplant told Egan, “There’s this desire to return to a simpler, nostalgic life, even though we don’t really have any idea what that is.”
Wait, I know this one! Is it “What we think the 1950s were like, but really weren’t. You know, like the scene in Back to the Future, when Marty first sees 1955 Hill Valley”?
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AlexRogan Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:26:06pm |
re: #75 b.d.
The birthers will going after Cruz, Cruz going after Paul, Paul will be going after Rubio, Rubio will be going after Jindal, Jindal will be going after Demons, Demons will be going after JEB, JEB will be going after Cruz. Almost a perfect circle.
Yeah, a circlejerk of derptastic proportions…
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Kid A Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:26:49pm |
This just in: Suspect named in Gandolfini death; Gay Marriage taken into custody.
////wait, just wait…
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calochortus Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:27:49pm |
re: #74 Charles Johnson
Definitely the stupidest fucking right wing post of the day, by far: ‘Evidence of the Depth and Breadth of Obama’s Radicalism’: President Suggests Catholic Schools Are Divisive | Twitchy.
There is something seriously wrong with these people.
Keeping people apart is divisive? Who knew? /
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EdDantes Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:28:09pm |
re: #73 William Barnett-Lewis
I remember Alaska Kim, kinda. I don’ know why Bach, the greatest musical genius of all time, would scare her/him.
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GeneJockey Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:29:27pm |
re: #79 calochortus
Keeping people apart is divisive? Who knew? /
And of course these are the people who want vouchers so they can send their kids to a religious to keep them from learning about things like Evolution, contraception, and the existence of homosexuals.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:29:42pm |
re: #79 calochortus
Keeping people apart is divisive? Who knew? /
It’s Northern Ireland. Some people need to be kept apart for a hundred years or two.
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GeneJockey Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:30:41pm |
re: #83 Decatur Deb
It’s Northern Ireland. Some people need to be kept apart for a hundred years or two.
“If I have to stop this car country and separate you two, I will!”
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EPR-radar Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:31:03pm |
Fron DailyKos:
The basic thesis is that because the US got rid of its actual leftist political parties in the various red scares and purges of the 20th century, there is a natural tendency for the US to drift right politically.
This is plausible, since the dominant voices out there are moderates prone to compromise, and an intransigent and radicalizing right.
This may be the best simple answer to “Why can’t the US have the nice things they have in Europe” that I’ve seen.
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Skip Intro Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:32:51pm |
re: #67 EPR-radar
2016 GOP primary debate dream field: Palin, Bachmann, West, Perry, Rand Paul, Santorum, Cain.
Cruz, Gohmert, Jindal, Steve King, Steve Stockman, and it just goes on and on and on.
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calochortus Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:32:58pm |
re: #82 GeneJockey
And of course these are the people who want vouchers so they can send their kids to a religious to keep them from learning about things like Evolution, contraception, and the existence of homosexuals.
Well, obviously they support division. If people who believe Truth™ allow their children to be exposed to Lies, some of the little dears might be seduced by Evil.
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freetoken Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:33:10pm |
re: #85 EPR-radar
I’m not sure I’m buying the premise of “drifting right”.
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calochortus Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:33:47pm |
re: #83 Decatur Deb
It’s Northern Ireland. Some people need to be kept apart for a hundred years or two.
Their time to do that is up.
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Kid A Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:35:10pm |
1-0, Blackhawks. At a very feisty hockey bar in Houston. Unfortunately, the rain keeps interrupting the DirecTV feed.
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GeneJockey Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:35:21pm |
re: #85 EPR-radar
Fron DailyKos:
The basic thesis is that because the US got rid of its actual leftist political parties in the various red scares and purges of the 20th century, there is a natural tendency for the US to drift right politically.
This is plausible, since the dominant voices out there are moderates prone to compromise, and an intransigent and radicalizing right.
This may be the best simple answer to “Why can’t the US have the nice things they have in Europe” that I’ve seen.
I sometimes wonder if crazy shitheads are a greater percentage of the population here than in Europe, and if so, is it because a lot of the crazy shitheads who lived in Europe emigrated here, and bred more crazy shitheads in the fertile plains of American, while the rest of Europeans decided they’d stay in Europe, because it was much nicer with fewer crazy shitheads.
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engineer cat Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:36:29pm |
Open Thread
i thought the command was “open sesame”
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Kragar Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:36:39pm |
re: #91 GeneJockey
I sometimes wonder if crazy shitheads are a greater percentage of the population here than in Europe, and if so, is it because a lot of the crazy shitheads who lived in Europe emigrated here, and bred more crazy shitheads in the fertile plains of American, while the rest of Europeans decided they’d stay in Europe, because it was much nicer with fewer crazy shitheads.
Europe has more than its fair share of crazy shitheads over the past few hundred years, thank you very much.
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Kragar Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:37:01pm |
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:37:30pm |
re: #91 GeneJockey
I sometimes wonder if crazy shitheads are a greater percentage of the population here than in Europe, and if so, is it because a lot of the crazy shitheads who lived in Europe emigrated here, and bred more crazy shitheads in the fertile plains of American, while the rest of Europeans decided they’d stay in Europe, because it was much nicer with fewer crazy shitheads.
Wide open spaces allow craziness to breed and then periodically break out and infect civilization. Probably not a coincidence that the major monotheistic religions came out of a desert.
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GeneJockey Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:37:40pm |
re: #93 Kragar
Europe has more than its fair share of crazy shitheads over the past few hundred years, thank you very much.
So, no, then?
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Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:38:12pm |
re: #89 calochortus
Their time to do that is up.
I wish. If the period of relative prosperity fades, they’ll be back to bombing pubs.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:38:29pm |
re: #85 EPR-radar
Fron DailyKos:
The basic thesis is that because the US got rid of its actual leftist political parties in the various red scares and purges of the 20th century, there is a natural tendency for the US to drift right politically.
This is plausible, since the dominant voices out there are moderates prone to compromise, and an intransigent and radicalizing right.
This may be the best simple answer to “Why can’t the US have the nice things they have in Europe” that I’ve seen.
I don’t know. I don’t think I buy that argument. The right wing is always going to be with us, and they’re not weak in Europe either. I actually think the reverse may be true — that the fact that US liberals are compromise-oriented actually leads to more genuine progress over the long term than having an extremely polarized right-left divide.
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EdDantes Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:38:57pm |
I am very much enjoying the Bach performance Posted by Alouette. How can anyone have ant ill feelings toward any one under the influence of JSB?
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Amory Blaine Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:39:11pm |
House votes to cut food stamps by $2 billion
The House voted on Wednesday to cut food stamps by $2 billion a year as part of a wide-ranging farm bill.
The chamber rejected 234-188 a Democratic amendment to the five-year, half-trillion-dollar farm legislation that would have maintained current spending on food stamps, now called the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP. The overall bill cuts the $80 billion-a-year program by about 3 percent and makes it harder for some people to qualify.
The food stamp cuts have complicated passage of the bill and its farm-state supporters were working to secure votes Wednesday. Many conservatives have said the food stamp cuts do not go far enough since the program has doubled in cost in the last five years and now feeds 1 in 7 Americans. Liberals have argued against any reductions, contending the House plan could take as many as 2 million needy recipients off the rolls. The White House has threatened a veto over the food stamp cuts.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:40:05pm |
re: #88 freetoken
I’m not sure I’m buying the premise of “drifting right”.
We don’t drift, we lurch. The Kos article sort of misses the entire 60s.
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Bubblehead II Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:41:17pm |
Dinner started.
Slow cooked boneless pork ribs in Sweet Baby Ray’s Honey BBQ sauce and Spanish Rice.
Not to mention that laundry is also done.
Hey Bryan! Top that you Misogynistic fuck-wad.
This is why certain male team members really, really, really despise me. Not to mention the fact that I buy small, cheap/inexpensive/friviouls gifts to give her as the whim strikes me. Drives them nuts. It’s the thought that counts, not the gift in of its self.
And no Ladies, I don’t do windows.
Besides, I am married.
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Skip Intro Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:42:16pm |
Republicans being Republicans.
Illinois GOP official pens racist attack on black GOP candidate
A county Republican Party chairman in central Illinois called a black female congressional candidate the “love child” of the Democratic party; a “street walker” whose “pimps” are party leaders; and suggested that after the election, she will be “working for some law firm that needs to meet their quota for minority hires.”
And it’s a Republican candidate he’s talking about.
Montgomery County GOP Chairman Jim Allen wrote the comments in an email to a Republican website, regarding Erika Harold. She is the former Miss America and Harvard Law grad who is seeking the Republican nomination for the 13th Congressional District, which stretches from Champaign to the Metro East.
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engineer cat Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:42:21pm |
re: #85 EPR-radar
Fron DailyKos:
The basic thesis is that because the US got rid of its actual leftist political parties in the various red scares and purges of the 20th century, there is a natural tendency for the US to drift right politically.
This is plausible, since the dominant voices out there are moderates prone to compromise, and an intransigent and radicalizing right.
This may be the best simple answer to “Why can’t the US have the nice things they have in Europe” that I’ve seen.
in european countries, social programs were sometimes sold to the public there on a basis of common national/ethnic feeling:
Folkhemmet (English: the people’s home, definite form of folkhem) is a political concept that played an important role in the history of the Swedish Social Democratic Party and the Swedish welfare state. It is also sometimes used to refer to the long period between 1932-76 when the Social democrats were in power and the concept was put into practice. Sometimes referred to as “the Swedish Middle Way”, folkhemmet was viewed as midway between capitalism and socialism. The base of the Folkhem vision is that the entire society ought to be like a small family, where everybody contributes. The Swedish Social Democrats’ successes in the postwar period is often explained by the fact that the party managed to motivate major social reforms with the idea of the folkhem and the national family’s joint endeavor.
in the united states we all come from all over the world - therefore, there are always “others” for people to set you to hating on. this puts a weapon in the hand of the interests who want to maintain industrial revolution era conditions
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GeneJockey Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:42:42pm |
re: #100 Amory Blaine
House votes to cut food stamps by $2 billion
“Many conservatives have said the food stamp cuts do not go far enough since the program has doubled in cost in the last five years and now feeds 1 in 7 Americans.”
So, of course the answer is to cut foodstamps, rather than … Oh, I don’t know… maybe PAYING A LIVING FUCKING WAGE?!?
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freetoken Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:43:13pm |
re: #98 Charles Johnson
I suspect that the atavists are getting louder because each year brings more change, which is something they can’t handle.
The End Times Boom busted after a good 20 year run when Harold Camping jumped the shark. An uncomfortably large segment of the American population who were still religious really bought into that stuff from the 60’s until Camping was the final dis-creditor.
American Exceptionalism is one of the last few doctrines that can unite those who want to go back rather than go forward. But with every little bit advance of any contrary group - gay rights being the current nexus of worry - those with older worldviews find themselves living in a world they can’t understand.
I expect them to scream all the more louder in coming years as social changes continue apace.
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calochortus Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:43:42pm |
re: #97 Decatur Deb
I wish. If the period of relative prosperity fades, they’ll be back to bombing pubs.
I hope you’re wrong. There prosperity has faded somewhat and they haven’t started back up, so there is hope.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:43:55pm |
re: #71 Decatur Deb
So I guess we’re not going to get “The Lone Ranger”.
Well, here is Leonard Bernstein conducting the shit out of the Vienna Philharmonic (and a kickass percussionist)
Youtube Video
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Kragar Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:44:05pm |
The GOP solution to hunger:
Find Jesus and attend a church run soup kitchen.
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austin_blue Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:44:29pm |
re: #90 Kid A
1-0, Blackhawks. At a very feisty hockey bar in Houston. Unfortunately, the rain keeps interrupting the DirecTV feed.
I remember rain….
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:44:52pm |
US Lawmakers Seek Deep Cuts to NASA Climate Research : Nature News Blog
Republicans in the US House of Representatives want NASA out of the climate-change business.
A bill floated by leaders of the House Science Committee seeks to restore “proper balance to NASA’s science portfolio” by slashing roughly US$500 million from the agency’s Earth science division, which received $1.785 billion this year. The move is part of a broader push by Republicans to replenish NASA’s planetary science division, which has seen drastic cuts in recent years.
But the severity of the Earth science cuts even shocked Steven Squyres, a planetary scientist at Cornell University in New York, who led the planetary community’s 2011 decadal survey. He told lawmakers today that the proposed cut to Earth science research is “alarmingly deep”.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:44:52pm |
re: #104 Skip Intro
Republicans being Republicans.
Illinois GOP official pens racist attack on black GOP candidate
Black, female Republican. Let me check my cupboard for some sympathy.
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dragonath Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:45:35pm |
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:46:18pm |
Apparently Donald Trump said something very fucked up about James Gandolfini. He may have deleted the tweet, I couldn’t find anything.
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Kragar Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:46:57pm |
re: #113 Charles Johnson
US Lawmakers Seek Deep Cuts to NASA Climate Research : Nature News Blog
Ignorantly evil or evilly ignorant: you decide.
The GOP will be the death of us all.
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Skip Intro Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:46:59pm |
re: #114 Decatur Deb
Black, female Republican. Let me check my cupboard for some sympathy.
You do have to wonder what the hell she was thinking by signing up with the party that automatically hates her guts, just because.
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GeneJockey Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:47:08pm |
re: #113 Charles Johnson
US Lawmakers Seek Deep Cuts to NASA Climate Research : Nature News Blog
This is the equivalent of sticking fingers in our collective ears and singing ‘LALALALALA I CAN’T HEAR YOU’ because they don’t like what the research is telling us.
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freetoken Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:47:13pm |
re: #113 Charles Johnson
Saw that earlier. The GOP wants to return to the Moon because… well, it worked once. Then onto Mars. This, coming from a party that supposedly wants to cut government spending - wants to go to Mars.
That’ll cost a bit more than filling the tank in one’s SUV.
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calochortus Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:48:45pm |
re: #120 GeneJockey
This is the equivalent of sticking fingers in our collective ears and singing ‘LALALALALA I CAN’T HEAR YOU’ because they don’t like what the research is telling us.
I wonder how cutting climate research will go over with the giant agribusinesses who depend on things like weather for their income?
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EPR-radar Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:48:49pm |
re: #98 Charles Johnson
I don’t know. I don’t think I buy that argument. The right wing is always going to be with us, and they’re not weak in Europe either. I actually think the reverse may be true — that the fact that US liberals are compromise-oriented actually leads to more genuine progress over the long-term than having an extremely polarized right-left divide.
IMO, this argument applies well to economic issues like the relative power of unions vs. capital, which has been steadily declining since 1948. The Democrats have been drifting right on this front for decades.
It doesn’t apply well to the culture war issues, especially gay rights and gay marriage.
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engineer cat Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:48:57pm |
actually, it’s kind of interesting to read the rest of the wikipedia artible on the establishment of swedish socialism
The term [Folkhemmet] is thought to have its roots in Rudolf Kjellén’s vision of a corporatist-styled society based on class collaboration in the national interest, largely based on Otto von Bismarck’s juxtaposing of conservative stability and continuity to social reforms otherwise associated with socialist parties, such as universal healthcare and unemployment benefits.
The Social Democratic leaders Ernst Wigforss, an avid Keynesian, and Per Albin Hansson, a social corporatist, are considered the main architects of folkhemmet, with inspiration from the conservative Kjellén. It was later developed by the Prime Ministers Tage Erlander and Olof Palme until the Social Democratic party historically lost power in 1976. Another important proponent was Hjalmar Branting, who came into contact with the concept while a student at Uppsala university, and went on to become the first socialist Prime Minister of Sweden.
History
Hansson introduced the concept in 1928, saying that Sweden should become more like a “good home”, this being marked by equality and mutual understanding. Hansson advocated that the traditional class society should then be replaced by “the people’s home” (folkhemmet).
The concept came at a time when nationalization was being questioned, and marked the party’s abandonment of the notion of class struggle, a concept fundamental to the early Social Democratic movement. Instead they adapted a planned economy and what would be called Funktionssocialism, where businesses were controlled through regulations rather than government ownership. The government would then also have more control over the individual, however, to the extent required to increase the wellbeing of citizens.
Good and easily available education, even to higher levels, was considered particularly important for building the new society. As a result, Sweden became one of the first countries in the world to offer free education at all levels, including all public universities, along with several new universities founded during the 1960s. Free universal health care was provided by the state, enacted in 1947-55, along with numerous other social services.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:50:35pm |
Just found out that we had some kind of hack attempt today, originating with a Russian IP address. Didn’t get in, we have good safeguards against what it tried to do.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:51:16pm |
Why'd you delete this, coward? RT @realDonaldTrump: If Obamacare wasn't enacted, James Gandolfini would still be with us. FACT.” #p2— April (@ReignOfApril) June 20, 2013
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dragonath Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:51:52pm |
Maybe Vladimir Putin was trying to steal the football.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:52:30pm |
re: #125 Charles Johnson
Just found out that we had some kind of hack attempt today, originating with a Russian IP address. Didn’t get in, we have good safeguards against what it tried to do.
Hope it wasn’t Maritchka trying to reach me about the airfare.
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calochortus Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:52:36pm |
re: #126 Charles Johnson
That’s both stupid and ugly. I guess that’s a win/win for the Donald.
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b.d. Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:52:57pm |
re: #116 Charles Johnson
Trump may be able to get away with calling Obama a socialist Kenyan or firing Gary Busey but he will not be able to get away with pissing on Gandolfini’s still warm corpse.
I have no idea if/what he said but if he said it then somebody has a copy of it.
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engineer cat Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:53:30pm |
re: #99 EdDantes
I am very much enjoying the Bach performance Posted by Alouette. How can anyone have ant ill feelings toward any one under the influence of JSB?
if you listen to 14 of his arpeggios in a row your entire mind will be set in order according to principles of beauty and logic
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EPR-radar Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:53:49pm |
re: #129 calochortus
That’s both stupid and ugly. I guess that’s a win/win for the Donald.
So many other GOP tools have been self-expressing as unmitigated assholes lately. The Donald felt left out.
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GeneJockey Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:54:13pm |
re: #123 EPR-radar
IMO, this argument applies well to economic issues like the relative power of unions vs. capital, which has been steadily declining since 1948. The Democrats have been drifting right on this front for decades.
It doesn’t apply well to the culture war issues, especially gay rights and gay marriage.
That’s a good point. Viewed rationally, the economic side of American politics has been drifting rightward for at least 30 years - lower taxes on wealth and the wealthy; deregulation of banks and investment; union busting, etc. And yet the Right talks as though we’re inches away from a Collectivist nightmare.
I think it’s because they’re gradually losing all the Culture War arguments, and since they can’t separate the economic and cultural issues, they see EVERYTHING slipping away from them.
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austin_blue Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:54:52pm |
re: #126 Charles Johnson
Was his hair typing? That level of DERP is stupefying.
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GeneJockey Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:55:50pm |
re: #126 Charles Johnson
Jesus Tapdancing Christ. And that man led the polls in the GOP Presidential race for a month.
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dragonath Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:55:54pm |
The dead will rise again when The Donald is president, apparently.
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austin_blue Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:56:44pm |
re: #135 GeneJockey
Jesus Tapdancing Christ. And that man led the polls in the GOP Presidential race for a month.
He was that month’s Not Romney.
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RealityBasedSteve Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:57:10pm |
re: #16 Decatur Deb
How ‘bout Franco, then?
Breaking News…. General Francisco Franco is still dead.
RBS
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GeneJockey Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:57:37pm |
re: #137 austin_blue
He was that month’s Not Romney.
The irony being that Romney himself was running a Not Romney.
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Amory Blaine Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:58:03pm |
To think of all the fucking fawning this country has given Trump over the last 2 decades.
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austin_blue Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:59:48pm |
re: #141 Amory Blaine
To think of all the fucking fawning this country has given Trump over the last 2 decades.
He was born on third base and thought he had hit a triple. Pond scum. Not that there is anything wrong with that!
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Gus Wed, Jun 19, 2013 5:59:52pm |
James Gandolfini, ‘Sopranos’ Star, Dies at 51 http://t.co/6j9XYpa9LU— Gus (@Gus_802) June 20, 2013
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freetoken Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:00:02pm |
The epistemic bubble in which the religious right lives does not allow them to accept any dissenting opinion.
For example, on this website which is pushing the latest IDiot book by Meyer:
Thinking Christian reviews “Darwin’s Doubt”, a new book by Stephen C. Meyer
I left a comment contradicting the blog’s claim that ” The thing to realize is that naturalists and atheists and materialists have no answer to these books. None. “
It was deleted, or never approved.
This is not unusual. It’s happened before when on occasion I decide to waste 60 seconds and try to answer some silly claim on these creationist sites.
They just won’t have it, and delete them.
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EPR-radar Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:00:19pm |
re: #133 GeneJockey
re: #123 EPR-radar
That’s a good point. Viewed rationally, the economic side of American politics has been drifting rightward for at least 30 years - lower taxes on wealth and the wealthy; deregulation of banks and investment; union busting, etc. And yet the Right talks as though we’re inches away from a Collectivist nightmare.
I think it’s because they’re gradually losing all the Culture War arguments, and since they can’t separate the economic and cultural issues, they see EVERYTHING slipping away from them.
It is certainly plausible that the Powers That Be have evolved into this very convenient arrangement since just after the New Deal. If so, the role of the GOP was to lose, noisily, on the culture war front. The role of the Democrats was to lose, quietly, on all the economic issues.
The teabaggers are a complicating influence —- they don’t realize they aren’t supposed to win on their social issues.
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GeneJockey Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:02:51pm |
re: #144 freetoken
I left a comment contradicting the blog’s claim that ” The thing to realize is that naturalists and atheists and materialists have no answer to these books. None. “
It was deleted, or never approved.
You see? No answer! Not one of them has dared to even try!
Lyin’ for Jesus.
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calochortus Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:04:06pm |
re: #142 austin_blue
He was born on third base and thought he had hit a triple. Pond scum. Not that there is anything wrong with that!
I have never understood Trump’s appeal. He seems unpleasant, and if I understand correctly, while early in his career (working for his father) he did some good work, he would currently be better off financially if he had done nothing since his dad died and he inherited the properties.
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EPR-radar Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:04:56pm |
re: #146 GeneJockey
Lyin’ for Jesus.
Form the same set of knuckledraggers that usually take every opportunity to scream about taqiyya.
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engineer cat Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:05:10pm |
trump
my father used to have an expression: “all of his taste is in his mouth”
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RealityBasedSteve Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:05:35pm |
re: #114 Decatur Deb
Black, female Republican. Let me check my cupboard for some sympathy.
Republican Party, the political version of Ouroboros.
RBS
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EPR-radar Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:06:11pm |
re: #149 engineer cat
trump
my father used to have an expression: “all of his taste is in his mouth”
I think a modified bit of Texan works well here —- All hair-piece, no cattle.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:06:24pm |
Tocatta and Fugue in D Minor
Youtube Video
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GeneJockey Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:07:02pm |
re: #145 EPR-radar
It is certainly plausible that the Powers That Be have evolved into this very convenient arrangement since just after the New Deal. If so, the role of the GOP was to lose, noisily, on the culture war front. The role of the Democrats was to lose, quietly, on all the economic issues.
The teabaggers are a complicating influence —- they don’t realize they aren’t supposed to win on their social issues.
I tend to see it more as the cultural has been slowly following an inevitable path, the ‘Arc of Justice’ if you will.
Economically, we lurched suddenly and dramatically to the left as a result of the Great Depression, and we kind of stayed there for about 40 years, before turning to the Right 30 years ago. That rightward turn, I think, is the result of forgetting the lessons of the Depression, and failing to understand that a lot of the prosperity that followed was the result of exactly the programs the Right chafed under, and which they mistakenly believed were actually holding back prosperity.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:07:28pm |
re: #152 Vicious Babushka
Tocatta and Fugue in D Minor
[Embedded content]
By a quirk, our “wedding song”. Wife gets teary with every Vincent Price movie.
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Kid A Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:09:16pm |
Trump, you are a wing nut, comb-overed twat. You fucking heartless bastard.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:09:22pm |
Now people are saying on Twitter that Gandolfini’s death is a hoax.
I doubt it. All the major new sources confirm it - they must have gotten official word, right? Right? Bueller?
We may have a “he’s not dead” hoax.
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thedopefishlives Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:09:56pm |
re: #156 Charles Johnson
Now people are saying on Twitter that Gandolfini’s death is a hoax.
I doubt it. All the major new sources confirm it - they must have gotten official word, right? Right? Bueller?
We may have a “he’s not dead” hoax.
I’m sorry, folks, but Elvis has, in fact, left the building.
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calochortus Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:10:13pm |
re: #155 Kid A
Trump, you are a wing nut, comb-overed twat. You fucking heartless bastard.
You are libeling twats.
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Kragar Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:10:28pm |
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GeneJockey Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:11:24pm |
re: #154 Decatur Deb
By a quirk, our “wedding song”. Wife gets teary with every Vincent Price movie.
My Dad had an old Columbia LP of E. Power Biggs playing that, which he used to play every Sunday morning. I therefore associate it with happy memories like the smell of frying bacon and eggs, or of lamb kidneys stewed with mushrooms, rather than the horror movie associations many folks have.
My wife, OTOH, grew up next to a church full of hypocritical Calvinists, so she loaths organ music.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:11:48pm |
re: #156 Charles Johnson
Now people are saying on Twitter that Gandolfini’s death is a hoax.
I doubt it. All the major new sources confirm it - they must have gotten official word, right? Right? Bueller?
We may have a “he’s not dead” hoax.
The first thing I saw was a mistranslated Italian TV listing for a Sopranos season opener.
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Kragar Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:13:22pm |
I do believe Sean Parker is the biggest douchebag on the planet today.
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thedopefishlives Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:13:41pm |
re: #162 Kragar
I do believe Sean Parker is the biggest douchebag on the planet today.
Beating out Bryan Fischer or Fred Phelps?
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:13:51pm |
re: #160 GeneJockey
My Dad had an old Columbia LP of E. Power Biggs playing that, which he used to play every Sunday morning. I therefore associate it with happy memories like the smell of frying bacon and eggs, or of lamb kidneys stewed with mushrooms, rather than the horror movie associations many folks have.
My wife, OTOH, grew up next to a church full of hypocritical Calvinists, so she loaths organ music.
Here’s the orchestral version:
Youtube Video
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Kragar Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:14:37pm |
re: #164 thedopefishlives
Beating out Bryan Fischer or Fred Phelps?
They’re shitheads, different category.
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PhillyPretzel Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:14:40pm |
re: #156 Charles Johnson
WSJ has it on the front page. I do not think it is hoax.
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EPR-radar Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:15:19pm |
re: #153 GeneJockey
I tend to see it more as the cultural has been slowly following an inevitable path, the ‘Arc of Justice’ if you will.
Economically, we lurched suddenly and dramatically to the left as a result of the Great Depression, and we kind of stayed there for about 40 years, before turning to the Right 30 years ago. That rightward turn, I think, is the result of forgetting the lessons of the Depression, and failing to understand that a lot of the prosperity that followed was the result of exactly the programs the Right chafed under, and which they mistakenly believed were actually holding back prosperity.
I suspect that in normal times, the plutocrats get things to go more and more their way by simple relentless persistence (e.g., sooner or later, the multinationals will get their overseas tax holiday). Money talks, after all, and there is grossly inadequate sustained opposition to the plutocracy agenda. Furthermore, it is impossible to see how such opposition could form in a population that is either over-worked or desperately looking for a job.
Only at crisis time (e.g., the great depression), is a leftward lurch is possible. This doesn’t bode well for the future, since if this model is correct, the grip of the plutocrats will only be loosened by an actual revolution, or by a crisis so severe that it makes revolution a real threat. The great recession didn’t do the job.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:15:26pm |
re: #167 PhillyPretzel
WSJ has it on the front page. I do not think it is hoax.
Won’t believe it ‘til I see it on Drudge.
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GeneJockey Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:16:27pm |
re: #165 Vicious Babushka
Here’s the orchestral version:
[Embedded content]
Orchestras are nice, but a good pipe organ goes down to 32 hz. Back in my younger, audiophile days, I attended a stereo show where one vendor was demoing their speakers using that. I swear to god some of the low notes made the cuffs of my pants flap.
Good times. Expensive, but good.
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Joanne Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:17:33pm |
re: #106 GeneJockey
So, of course the answer is to cut foodstamps, rather than … Oh, I don’t know… maybe PAYING A LIVING FUCKING WAGE?!?
Good lord. Can’t have that! Think of the Job Creators(tm). /
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EPR-radar Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:18:21pm |
re: #162 Kragar
I do believe Sean Parker is the biggest douchebag on the planet today.
Fines for this kind of crap need to be a percentage of income or a percentage of assets.
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Kragar Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:18:38pm |
I declare Gandolfini a Schrodinger, neither living nor dead until observed by an outside source.
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Gus Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:18:43pm |
Michael Hastings Crash: Car Was Speeding, Engine Flew 100 Feet, Cops Say http://t.co/8TRcFgJs33 via @laweekly— Gus (@Gus_802) June 20, 2013
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:18:43pm |
DELUSIONAL
If MLK were Alive Today, He Would be a Tea Partier http://t.co/qzUpG8E1DX #tcot #ocra #tpp #p2 #OpSLAM #uniteblue #TeaParty— Daniel Parker (@dsparker001) June 20, 2013
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GeneJockey Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:18:51pm |
re: #168 EPR-radar
I suspect that in normal times, the plutocrats get things to go more and more their way by simple relentless persistence (e.g., sooner or later, the multinationals will get their overseas tax holiday). Money talks, after all, and there is grossly inadequate sustained opposition to the plutocracy agenda. Furthermore, it is impossible to see how such opposition could form in a population that is either over-worked or desperately looking for a job.
Only at crisis time (e.g., the great depression), is a leftward lurch is possible. This doesn’t bode well for the future, since if this model is correct, the grip of the plutocrats will only be loosened by an actual revolution, or by a crisis so severe that it makes revolution a real threat. The great recession didn’t do the job.
History suggests this view is correct. The rich need to give serious thought to this, but one reason they’re rich is that they think they deserve it, and that it’s the Natural Order Of Things, so they’re not likely to see the long knives and guillotine blades being sharpened until it’s too late.
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Gus Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:19:19pm |
re: #174 Kragar
I declare Gandolfini a Schrodinger, neither living nor dead until observed by an outside source.
Schrodinger’s actor? Would that make Elvis Schrodinger’s singer?
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b.d. Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:19:47pm |
re: #156 Charles Johnson
If he is alive then CNN might as well brig out a hotplate and switch over to being a cooking channel.
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GeneJockey Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:20:40pm |
re: #179 b.d.
If he is alive then CNN might as well brig out a hotplate and switch over to being a cooking channel.
Paula Deen may soon be available.
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Gus Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:21:42pm |
Where’s Gandolfini’s death certificate!? Hmmm? I demand to see his death certificate!!
//
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:21:48pm |
re: #174 Kragar
I declare Gandolfini a Schrodinger, neither living nor dead until observed by an outside source.
Schrödinger’s Gandolfini.
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Joanne Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:22:21pm |
re: #116 Charles Johnson
Apparently Donald Trump said something very fucked up about James Gandolfini. He may have deleted the tweet, I couldn’t find anything.
For those wondering about Trump RT @realDonaldTrump: If Obamacare wasn't enacted, James Gandolfini would still be with us. FACT.” #p2”— Patrick (@QuadCityPat) June 20, 2013
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:22:43pm |
Wow: The US Just Chucked This Human Trafficking Grenade at Russia and China - Quartz
The downgrading of an economy is a fairly well-known phenomenon. But there’s a lesser-known equivalent in the world of human rights, brought to you by the US State Department: the Trafficking in Persons (TIP) report. A touchstone for global human trafficking data, this year’s report, out today, did something uncharacteristically interesting: it demoted Russia and China, along with Uzbekistan, to “Tier Three” status, which puts them in the company of countries like North Korea, Iran and Zimbabwe.
Here’s what that means: Tier 1 nations are deemed in full compliance with the State Department’s minimum standards for protection, prosecution and prevention of traffickers. Tier 2 nations aren’t—but they’re at least making a significant effort to comply. About a decade ago, a Tier 2 watch list was created to encourage countries to take urgent steps to avoid being designated as Tier 3. That prompted years of accusations from some lawmakers that various US administrations were gaming the system for political reasons, allowing favored nations to avoid Tier 3 by promising to do better. In 2008, a law was passed creating an “automatic downgrade” for countries that had stayed on the watch list for too long. This year, the clock was up for China, Russia and four other countries, and the State Department was forced to either promote them or implement the automatic downgrade.
As a result, the three new members of Tier Three are now fair game for US government sanctions. For instance, Washington can oppose International Monetary Fund (IMF) loans, non-humanitarian aid and non-trade related foreign assistance to the countries, as well as certain education and cultural exchange programs.
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calochortus Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:22:52pm |
re: #162 Kragar
I do believe Sean Parker is the biggest douchebag on the planet today.
He may be, but the Cracked article you linked to has some factual problems. I responded on your page.
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aagcobb Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:23:10pm |
re: #143 Gus
I’m fifty, diabetic and obese. Could’ve been me, and might be soon if I don’t get off my fat ass and start doing something about it.
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EPR-radar Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:23:32pm |
re: #177 GeneJockey
History suggests this view is correct. The rich need to give serious thought to this, but one reason they’re rich is that they think they deserve it, and that it’s the Natural Order Of Things, so they’re not likely to see the long knives and guillotine blades being sharpened until it’s too late.
Self-awareness isn’t easy. For many years FDR was vilified as “That Man” by US RWNJ types, who really should have been down on their knees every night giving thanks that the New Deal prevented a revolution in which they would have been the first up against the wall.
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Kragar Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:24:57pm |
re: #186 calochortus
He may be, but the Cracked article you linked to has some factual problems. I responded on your page.
As did I.
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Gus Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:25:07pm |
?? ??? ?? ??? ?? ??? ?? ??? ?? ??? Meow Meow Meow Meow Meow ?? ??? ?? ??? ?? ??? ?? ???— Astronaut Katze (@AstronautKatze) June 20, 2013
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GeneJockey Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:25:25pm |
re: #188 EPR-radar
Self-awareness isn’t easy. For many years FDR was vilified as “That Man” by US RWNJ types, who really should have been down on their knees every night giving thanks that the New Deal prevented a revolution in which they would have been the first up against the wall.
Obama reportedly told a group of Wall Street types that he was what stood between them and pitchforks and torches - I think this was when they were paying bonuses out of TARP funds - and of course they could only bitch about how MEAN he was.
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Gus Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:26:39pm |
re: #175 Gus
That’s according to the expert estimation of Harry B. Ryon, a former LAPD officer who now runs his own private accident investigation firm in Scottsdale, Arizona.
The engine’s location is evidence that the driver “was hauling Irish ass and lost control,” Ryon told us:
With the engine torn off the gas lines would rupture and it would start a fire.
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darthstar Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:27:06pm |
Banjo got his glans pressed again today…here’s Cheeto, one of the vet’s office cats, holding his leash.
Image: 954875_10151683741193024_1747014515_n.jpg
Image: 998885_10151683741053024_818860015_n.jpg
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EPR-radar Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:28:30pm |
re: #191 GeneJockey
Obama reportedly told a group of Wall Street types that he was what stood between them and pitchforks and torches - I think this was when they were paying bonuses out of TARP funds - and of course they could only bitch about how MEAN he was.
And coming back to an earlier point, it would have been helpful then if Obama had been able to point to some nice, peaceful organized Socialists and Communists in the US, whose policies would be much more painful for the fat cats than what the Democrats had in mind.
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thedopefishlives Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:28:36pm |
re: #194 Gus
Note to self: Do not drive like my people.
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Joanne Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:28:48pm |
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GeneJockey Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:30:35pm |
re: #199 Joanne
Best twitter takedown I’ve seen.
I liked, “You hear white folks talking you better hushpuppies”
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Gus Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:30:35pm |
re: #197 thedopefishlives
Note to self: Do not drive like my people.
Yep. Stick to fighting fires and putting on parades.
//
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:32:19pm |
Whoa.
Minuteman Founder Arrested on Child Molestation Charges | azfamily.com Phoenix
PHOENIX — Phoenix police said the co-founder of the vigilante border group Minuteman Civil Defense Corps was arrested Wednesday morning for allegedly having sexual contact with three young girls.
Police said they arrested Christopher Allen Simcox, 52, in the area of Van Buren Street and 51st Avenue at around 10 a.m.
Police have not released any details about the allegations, saying only that detectives with the Family Investigations Bureau of the Phoenix Police Department had developed probable cause to arrest Simcox.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:32:51pm |
re: #200 GeneJockey
I liked, “You hear white folks talking you better hushpuppies”
“Hash browns vs The Board of Education”
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GeneJockey Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:33:30pm |
re: #183 b.d.
Which is deader? Paula’s career or James?
Hmmm. I suspect hers. Remember what happened to the Frugal Gourmet?
One day, he’s got a longrunning show on PBS, a popular series of cookbooks, and his own line of cookware.
The next day, he’s a non-person, and nobody will even admit to owning his cookbooks.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:34:05pm |
re: #202 Charles Johnson
This isn’t his first trip, or I’m getting my RWNJ pedophiles mixed up.
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ProTARDISLiberal Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:34:13pm |
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Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:36:50pm |
Charles—this looks recycled: Wiki
On April 16, 2010, Simcox’s wife was granted an order of protection after she alleged that Simcox “brandished a gun and threatened to shoot her, their children and any police officers who tried to protect them.”[9] Bounty Hunter Stacey O’Connell forced Chris Simcox into being served the Order of Protection after pursuing him for 30 days. Chris Simcox arrived at a Maricopa County Courthouse to have himself served on July 6, 2010.
On June 19th 2012 police arrested Simcox after being given probable cause that Simcox sexually molested 3 young girls, all under the age of 10. Simcox, who denied the allegations, was booked into the Maricopa County Jail and charged with two counts of molestation of a child, two counts of sexual conduct with a minor and one count of attempted molestation of a child.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:38:12pm |
The Greenwald cultists are going to be even more pissed off at me tomorrow.
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Gus Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:38:41pm |
re: #208 Charles Johnson
The Greenwald cultists are going to be even more pissed off at me tomorrow.
Why tomorrow?
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RealityBasedSteve Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:39:20pm |
re: #202 Charles Johnson
Whoa.
Minuteman Founder Arrested on Child Molestation Charges | azfamily.com Phoenix
He was already in trouble for death threats against his estranged wife.
PHOENIX - A man who recently served as an adviser to John McCain’s rival and once helped launch the Minuteman border-watch movement has been accused by his estranged wife of threatening to kill their family and any police who try to protect them.
Chris Simcox’s wife, who is seeking a divorce, alleges in court documents that he brandished a gun and threatened to shoot his family on at least two occasions in late 2009 - four years after he became instrumental in founding the Minuteman movement, which brought thousands of anti-illegal-immigration activists to patrol the U.S.-Mexico border and report suspected illegal migrants to the Border Patrol.
RBS
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thedopefishlives Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:39:24pm |
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dragonath Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:39:51pm |
Turkey vows to attack social media, strengthen police
ISTANBUL - Turkey’s government is working on legislation to restrict the use of Twitter and other social media, blamed for the worst unrest the country has experienced in decades.
The Turkish justice ministry is putting together a bill on Internet crime, which will also include sections on social media, according to local media.
“In the end, I think it will be quite futile,” said Roy Karadag, an analyst specializing in Turkey at the Institute for Intercultural and International Studies at the University of Bremen.
“Turkey has done a lot to create the image of being the most democratic, Islamic society in the Middle Eastern region and now it is behaving like Iran or Saudi Arabia or like Egypt under Mubarak and under the Muslim Brotherhood,” he said.
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darthstar Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:40:19pm |
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Joanne Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:41:06pm |
re: #200 GeneJockey
I liked, “You hear white folks talking you better hushpuppies”
This was my fav:
The only “N-word” Paula won't say is nutrition. #PaulasBestDishes— Brianna Jackson (@briannasjackson) June 19, 2013
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Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:41:09pm |
re: #210 RealityBasedSteve
He was already in trouble for death threats against his estranged wife.
RBS
Wiki said the arrest for 3 kids was exactly one year ago. Could be a simple error or someone screwing around.
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ProTARDISLiberal Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:41:13pm |
re: #213 dragonath
Erdogan is just gonna keep screwing that goat, isn’t he?
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RealityBasedSteve Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:41:15pm |
re: #207 Decatur Deb
Charles—this looks recycled: Wiki
On April 16, 2010, Simcox’s wife was granted an order of protection after she alleged that Simcox “brandished a gun and threatened to shoot her, their children and any police officers who tried to protect them.”[9] Bounty Hunter Stacey O’Connell forced Chris Simcox into being served the Order of Protection after pursuing him for 30 days. Chris Simcox arrived at a Maricopa County Courthouse to have himself served on July 6, 2010.
On June 19th 2012 police arrested Simcox after being given probable cause that Simcox sexually molested 3 young girls, all under the age of 10. Simcox, who denied the allegations, was booked into the Maricopa County Jail and charged with two counts of molestation of a child, two counts of sexual conduct with a minor and one count of attempted molestation of a child.
Deb, I think that might be a typo in the Wiki article.
RBS
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:42:17pm |
re: #207 Decatur Deb
Nope, it’s current - he was arrested this morning.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:42:35pm |
re: #218 RealityBasedSteve
Deb, I think that might be a typo in the Wiki article.
RBS
Yep, but I sort of remember it—might just be the domestic violence bust.
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darthstar Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:42:50pm |
Nancy doesn’t have room in her feed for idiots.
I don't like name calling. 'swiggity swag, ur a fag' is on your profile page. @rose0ne— Nancy Sinatra (@NancySinatra) June 20, 2013
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RealityBasedSteve Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:43:09pm |
azfamily.com
Posted on June 19, 2013 at 4:44 PM
Updated today at 5:27 PM
Map: Child molestation arrest
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PHOENIX — Phoenix police said the co-founder of the vigilante border group Minuteman Civil Defense Corps was arrested Wednesday morning for allegedly having sexual contact with three young girls
AZFamily Suspect a typo in wiki.
RBS
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GeneJockey Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:44:14pm |
re: #202 Charles Johnson
Whoa.
Minuteman Founder Arrested on Child Molestation Charges | azfamily.com Phoenix
What a poor excuse for a human being.
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engineer cat Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:44:49pm |
the paragraph in the wiki article has been added and then removed in the last 24 hours
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Stanghazi Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:45:29pm |
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:45:36pm |
Another right wing hero takes a fall for something truly disgusting.
This is why I don’t want anything to do with the right.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:45:46pm |
re: #222 RealityBasedSteve
azfamily.com
Posted on June 19, 2013 at 4:44 PM
Updated today at 5:27 PM
Map: Child molestation arrest
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PHOENIX — Phoenix police said the co-founder of the vigilante border group Minuteman Civil Defense Corps was arrested Wednesday morning for allegedly having sexual contact with three young girlsAZFamily Suspect a typo in wiki.
RBS
Is this the minuteman clown who went to ground in the desert and was being negotiated-in by his buddies?
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:46:34pm |
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dragonath Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:46:51pm |
News that should surprise no one:
Study shows elections not good for justice
The results showed that a justice who received half of his or her campaign contributions from business interest groups was more likely to decide cases in favor of a business than in favor of a government agency or private individual.
…
Emory School of Law professor Joanna Shepherd, who authored the study, noted it focused on business interest groups because organizations like the U.S. Chamber of Commerce give the largest slice of judicial campaign contributions.
Between 2000 and 2009, business groups gave $62.6 million to state Supreme Court candidates, 30 percent of the total. Lawyers and lobbyists followed with $59 million.
The study explained that money appears to affect decisions in at least two ways:
Judges who are ideologically aligned with contributors get money and have resources that help them win elections.
And judges who aren’t ideologically in favor of business interests may nonetheless vote for those interests, whether intentionally or - to use the term of one justice quoted by the study - “subliminally,” to ensure support from business groups in future elections.
The study found that in states with partisan elections, Republican justices decided cases in favor of businesses nearly two-thirds of the time, compared with their Democratic colleagues, who voted for businesses about half the time.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:46:55pm |
re: #224 engineer cat
the paragraph in the wiki article has been added and then removed in the last 24 hours
Screwing around then. People have fed us old ‘news’ for effect in the past.
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darthstar Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:47:43pm |
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thedopefishlives Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:48:06pm |
re: #228 Charles Johnson
And the original reports said he was only going 35 mph. I don’t think so.
If you’re throwing an engine at 35 mph, you’re driving the wrong car.
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darthstar Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:48:09pm |
He died in ITALY, you fucking moron. RT @realDonaldTrump: If Obamacare wasn't enacted, James Gandolfini would still be with us. FACT.” #p2— DailyDriveler(TM) (@DailyDriveler) June 20, 2013
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Gus Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:48:32pm |
re: #228 Charles Johnson
And the original reports said he was only going 35 mph. I don’t think so.
Which is the posted speed limit. I knew the second I saw the wreckage that he had to have been flying down that road.
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Gus Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:48:44pm |
re: #232 thedopefishlives
If you’re throwing an engine at 35 mph, you’re driving the wrong car.
Lada
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GeneJockey Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:49:27pm |
re: #176 Vicious Babushka
DELUSIONAL
“If MLK were Alive Today, He Would be a Tea Partier”
Right. The man who was assassinated while speaking in support of the right of government employees to unionize would TOTALLY join a group of old white folks demanding that government workers be laid off and their wages and benefits slashed.
Might as well say if he were alive today he’d be white.
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ProTARDISLiberal Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:49:38pm |
re: #234 Gus
In this case, probably literally.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:50:51pm |
DOUBLE DERP
In DC with American Hero conservative Rep. @MarkSanford #Winning pic.twitter.com/vfzajyHUiM— Jim Hoft (@gatewaypundit) June 20, 2013
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GeneJockey Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:52:05pm |
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Kragar Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:52:28pm |
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Kragar Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:52:41pm |
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Joanne Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:56:51pm |
re: #238 Vicious Babushka
DOUBLE DERP
Everything wrong with the GOP in one tweet. Sandford is:
1) a liar
2) a guy who left his public office, the highest official in the state, without telling anyone where he was, leaving no one in charge had there been an emergency
3) lionized by “family values” people solely because he’s a conservative
GOP hypocrisy laid bare in 140 characters or less.
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William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:57:39pm |
re: #204 GeneJockey
Hmmm. I suspect hers. Remember what happened to the Frugal Gourmet?
One day, he’s got a longrunning show on PBS, a popular series of cookbooks, and his own line of cookware.
The next day, he’s a non-person, and nobody will even admit to owning his cookbooks.
Shrug. I learned a lot from his shows and his first book is still on my cookbook shelf. Some good stuff in it too. But yeah, overall that’s the truth.
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Romantic Heretic Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:59:00pm |
re: #146 GeneJockey
Lyin’ for Jesus.
Isn’t that one of the things that makes Muslims bad? Lying for their God?
But it’s all right for Christians.
I get so confused sometimes.
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engineer cat Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:00:49pm |
[Tesla] made mathematical calculations and computations based on his experiments and discovered that the resonant frequency of the earth was approximately 8 hertz (Hz)
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bratwurst Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:01:05pm |
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Gus Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:01:28pm |
So Chomsky thinks Obama is possibly worse than bin Laden, “running the biggest terrorist operation…maybe in history http://t.co/zSKps84bYe— Michael C Moynihan (@mcmoynihan) June 19, 2013
Derp.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:03:36pm |
re: #248 bratwurst
How does Dim Jim figure Sanford is an “American Hero” anyway?
He is a hero to Douche-Americans.
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Gus Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:03:56pm |
And you sir are possibly worse than bin Laden!
Good day.
[Sound of door slamming shut.]
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Romantic Heretic Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:03:57pm |
re: #168 EPR-radar
I suspect that in normal times, the plutocrats get things to go more and more their way by simple relentless persistence (e.g., sooner or later, the multinationals will get their overseas tax holiday). Money talks, after all, and there is grossly inadequate sustained opposition to the plutocracy agenda. Furthermore, it is impossible to see how such opposition could form in a population that is either over-worked or desperately looking for a job.
Only at crisis time (e.g., the great depression), is a leftward lurch is possible. This doesn’t bode well for the future, since if this model is correct, the grip of the plutocrats will only be loosened by an actual revolution, or by a crisis so severe that it makes revolution a real threat. The great recession didn’t do the job.
There’s that damned song in my head again.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:20:51pm |
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:22:11pm |
re: #253 PT Barnum
Hey all…how are ya?
Bad day today. Can’t talk much about it, though, since though the bad stuff effected me, I wasn’t a primary player in any of it and its not my place to gossip about those who were.
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ProTARDISLiberal Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:27:40pm |
re: #255 Dark_Falcon
You haz messages.
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:34:30pm |
re: #202 Charles Johnson
Whoa is right! Wonder if polyamory will get added to that mess?
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PhillyPretzel Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:34:47pm |
Good Night to my fellow Lizards. Youtube Video
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:35:55pm |
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:37:31pm |
re: #249 Gus
Derp.
And that’s why I don’t give Chomsky credibility to talk on political affairs. Really dude worse than Bin Laden? Uh how about no. I missed the part where Obama was intentionally targeting civilians and children. But thanks for playing.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:38:30pm |
re: #260 HappyWarrior
And that’s why I don’t give Chomsky credibility to talk on political affairs. Really dude worse than Bin Laden? Uh how about no. I missed the part where Obama was intentionally targeting civilians and children. But thanks for playing.
The Crazy Uncle of the Left is still crazy.
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Gus Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:38:57pm |
Poing!
@daveweigel I think she ate Derbyshire.— Holden D. Cat (@HoldenDCat) June 19, 2013
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:38:57pm |
So I heard a snippet of the rallying cry from today’s moron rally- abolish the IRS. Great and then we can outsource revenue collecting to a private company who couldn’t possibility have agendas. //
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:39:38pm |
re: #261 Dark_Falcon
The Crazy Uncle of the Left is still crazy.
Yeah I’ve never been a fan. Really, it’s one thing to criticize policy. It’s another to be like look at me, I’m saying Obama’s worse than OBL. Pathetic.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:41:48pm |
Awesome photo:
Air Force One. German Troops. The moon. The President and First Lady depart Germany tonight pic.twitter.com/VhBUInzkyp— petesouza (@petesouza) June 20, 2013
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Targetpractice Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:42:37pm |
re: #263 HappyWarrior
So I heard a snippet of the rallying cry from today’s moron rally- abolish the IRS. Great and then we can outsource revenue collecting to a private company who couldn’t possibility have agendas. //
Nah, abolish the IRS, abolish income taxes, and…and…well, shit, how do we expect the government to keep its hands off our Medicare if there’s no money to fund Medicare?
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jaunte Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:43:28pm |
Itinerant actor James Gandolfini's apartment-hopping with possessions in garbage bags, 1988: http://t.co/IAz8OATZ9E
— John McQuaid (@johnmcquaid) June 20, 2013
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:45:17pm |
re: #265 Charles Johnson
Awesome photo:
@petesouza I never realized honor guards in Germany still carried K98k Mausers. Oldies but goodies.
— Kurt Akemann (@Dark_Falcon7) June 20, 2013
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:45:54pm |
re: #266 Targetpractice
Nah, abolish the IRS, abolish income taxes, and…and…well, shit, how do we expect the government to keep its hands off our Medicare if there’s no money to fund Medicare?
Pretty much. And then these same dumbnuts will bitch about roads, schools, and the state of health care. Fucking idiots.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Jun 19, 2013 7:47:12pm |
The proliferation of conspiracy theories creates more terrorists than any drone attack ever will. http://t.co/n8LEAa2aTZ
— Phillip M. McKenzie (@pmmckenzie) June 20, 2013
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Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:10:10pm |
re: #222 RealityBasedSteve
azfamily.com
Posted on June 19, 2013 at 4:44 PM
Updated today at 5:27 PM
Map: Child molestation arrest
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PHOENIX — Phoenix police said the co-founder of the vigilante border group Minuteman Civil Defense Corps was arrested Wednesday morning for allegedly having sexual contact with three young girlsAZFamily Suspect a typo in wiki.
RBS
Been looking at Simcox’ history. There was an accusation of attempted child molestation made by his first wife and young daughter in 1998. Charges were not filed.
Cache of site here—I don’t know this site:
webcache.googleusercontent.com
SPLC here:
splcenter.org
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abolitionist Wed, Jun 19, 2013 9:47:43pm |
re: #228 Charles Johnson
And the original reports said he was only going 35 mph. I don’t think so.
In the official released LoudLabs video (length 05:32), as loud guy is just pulling up, there’s a guy with a garden hose. Let’s focus our attention on hose guy. Or let’s NOT.
Beyond hose guy, while loud guy is asking “Where’s the driver? Where’s the driver?” there’s a big black thing on the sidewalk. Two men are near that big black thing. After loud guy’s headlights are done highlighting big black thing, one of the two guys draws closer to it, with his arms crossed over his chest, in sort of an X pattern. With both thumbs up, I think.
While I’m not a posture nazi about how a guy chooses to relax while there’s a car engulfed in a ball of fire nearby, others may find it curious.
To me, the big black thing looked like a tire, or most of a tire.
By 00:35 into the video, after a police car and two other vehicles have left the scene, the big black thing on the sidewalk is nowhere to be seen. Quite a bit of debri on the sidewalk, street and median seems to have disappeared, too, after the cut-video/resume-video, at about 00:35.
Strangely, at about 00:36, while loud guy is still walking toward the scene, he says, “It’s gonna blow.” [sarc] Bet he’s an expert on that sorta stuff, considering how quickly he identified the ball of fire across the street as a Mercedes. [/sarc]
The profile of the driver can be seen clearly in the still-burning vehicle, at about 02:50 to 03:10. Not so clearly, a possible second profile can be glimpsed in the smoke, behind the driver, in the back seat.
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prairiefire Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:53:14pm |
re: #18 A Mom Anon
I don’t get the appeal of her. Never did. My grandma was a better cook and a lot more charming and entertaining. She would have been a perfect candidate for a show and cookbooks. She died before all that became a “thing”. I always found Paula Deen to be annoying, maybe it’s because I live in the South but I’m not from here, I don’t know. All the shit I hear around here, it wouldn’t surprise me in the least to find out she drops the N-bomb, it’s not an uncommon thing if people don’t see anyone of color in the vicinity.
No, Paula D does not not drop the n bomb. She’s a Georgia Dem, and she Loves Jimmy Carter/Prez.
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abolitionist Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:07:48am |
Excerpt:
And then there’s this WikiLeaks tweet:
Michael Hastings contacted WikiLeaks lawyer Jennifer Robinson just a few hours before he died, saying that the FBI was investigating him.
— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) June 19, 2013
Most recent youtube video for Jennifer Robinson that I can find was “Published on Jun 13, 2013” - It’s indicating 11 views. In case anyone is interested:
Bolding is mine.
[conspiracy.mode] Twofer? When I first glimpsed the “back seat profile”, it looked weird to me, but Jennifer Robinson was wearing her hair up in a bun in the video above.
[/conspiracy.mode]
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Russia’s New Combat Robots Blown Up by Drones Near Avdiivka When we landed on the moon, I thought about how science fiction had become real. Now, the robot wars have begun. It's more poignant somehow on the ground than in the missile wars we have in the air as ...
Rightwingconspirator
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Why Did More Than 1,000 People Die After Police Subdued Them With Force That Isn’t Meant to Kill? An investigation led by The Associated Press has found that, over a decade, more than 1,000 people died after police subdued them through physical holds, stun guns, body blows and other force not intended to be lethal. More: Why ... Cheechako
4 weeks ago
Views: 564 • Comments: 1 • Rating: 5- A Closer Look at the Eastman State Bar DecisionTaking a few minutes away from work things to read through the Eastman decision. As I'm sure many of you know, Eastman was my law school con law professor. I knew him pretty well because I was also running in ...KGxvi
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Abortions Outside Medical System Increased Sharply After Roe Fell, Study Finds The number of women using abortion pills to end their pregnancies on their own without the direct involvement of a U.S.-based medical provider rose sharply in the months after the Supreme Court eliminated a constitutional right to abortion, according ... Cheechako
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The Pandemic Cost 7 Million Lives, but Talks to Prevent a Repeat Stall In late 2021, as the world reeled from the arrival of the highly contagious omicron variant of the coronavirus, representatives of almost 200 countries met - some online, some in-person in Geneva - hoping to forestall a future worldwide ... Cheechako
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Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ... Cheechako
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