Live Video: Filibustering the Texas GOP’s Insane Anti-Choice Bill

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State Sen. Wendy Davis, D-Fort Worth, is filibustering controversial legislation that would dramatically restrict access to abortions in Texas. Abortion opponents argue the measure would improve women’s safety, while reproductive rights advocates argue it would effectively cut off legal access to abortion in the state and endanger women’s health. For additional coverage on this topic, visit texastribune.org.

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1 sauceruney  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:22:59pm

On a day where there’s been a catastrophic undoing of history via the Supreme Court, it’s good to see someone else making their own rightful place in it.

2 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:25:35pm

The sad thing is being in Texas there is a two hour time difference,so while it is only an hour and a half from midnight ofnthe east coast she still has over three hours to go…

3 jaunte  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:28:32pm
4 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:29:21pm
5 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:31:09pm

Libertarians are weird. They just are.

6 EPR-radar  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:34:04pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Libertarians are weird. They just are.

They are correct in not trusting massive accumulation of power in government.

They are willfully blind to possible problems caused by massive accumulation of power by people or corporations in the private sector.

It’s as if their view of US history begins and ends with the American Revolution.

7 jaunte  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:34:40pm

That last interruption was from Tea-Party backed State Sen. Donna Campbell,
creationist:
texasobserver.org

8 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:34:43pm
9 Randall Gross  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:34:44pm

They are trying to kill the filibuster by saying she’s strayed from topic right now on a point of order.

10 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:37:00pm

re: #9 Randall Gross

They are trying to kill the filibuster by saying she’s strayed from topic right now on a point of order.

They’ve been pulling that shit all day. The GOP want nothing more than to stifle debate and dissent in this state.

The Texas GOP are a perfect example of the cruelty and corruption of the American right wing and of the national Republican party. I honestly hope that everyone who votes GOP is happy and satisfied with what they see the Republicans doing in Texas. This is the shit you all vote for when you send these assholes to elective office.

11 jaunte  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:39:00pm

State Sen. Donna Campbell, armed and dangerous.
twitter.com

12 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:43:02pm
13 GeneJockey  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:44:42pm

re: #6 EPR-radar

They are correct in not trusting massive accumulation of power in government.

They are willfully blind to possible problems caused by massive accumulation of power by people or corporations in the private sector.

It’s as if their view of US history begins and ends with the American Revolution.

And their understanding of economics applies only to isolated small towns.

14 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:45:01pm

re: #6 EPR-radar

They are correct in not trusting massive accumulation of power in government.

They are willfully blind to possible problems caused by massive accumulation of power by people or corporations in the private sector.

It’s as if their view of US history begins and ends with the American Revolution.

I had a fun story about a “libertarian” who grew out of it, he told me that growing up in high school some of his favorite books were 1984, Atlas Shrugged, and The Jungle.


One of these things it not like the other…

15 ProTARDISLiberal  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:45:06pm

re: #11 jaunte

*sniff sniff*

I smell Photoshop

16 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:45:12pm

Posted by a friend of mine on FB:

The irony just hit me. Sen. Wendy Davis (D) Fort Worth is 2.5 hours away from completing a 13 hour filibuster in the Texas Senate to kill Senate Bill 5 placing severe restrictions on women’s healthcare services. So what we’re saying is if you tick us off, if you mess with our bodies, we are gonna talk your ear off in protest. Well thought out fellas.

Heh.

Go Wendy Go!

17 gwangung  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:46:40pm

re: #13 GeneJockey

And their understanding of economics applies only to isolated small towns.

In other words, libertarianism doesn’t scale up.

18 EPR-radar  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:47:48pm

re: #13 GeneJockey

And their understanding of economics applies only to isolated small towns.

Small towns might be an exaggeration. IMO, libertarian orthodoxy applies well to mythical state of nature constructs, and to nothing else.

19 jaunte  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:47:54pm

re: #15 ProTARDISLiberal

She has her finger on the trigger; not sure what she’s looking at.
donnacampbell.com

20 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:49:19pm

re: #13 GeneJockey

And their understanding of economics applies only to isolated small towns.

Their understanding of economics and government applies only if you think that Somalia is a bastion of freedom and economic opportunity.

21 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:49:33pm

Libertarianism is essentially a scam. It plays on people’s naivete, and their wishes for a simpler world, and tells them that if they’re ultimately selfish, the world will achieve utopia.

It’s a deception that takes advantage of the young and the stupid, by making them think they’re more moral and principled than the rest of the dumb sheeple.

22 gunnison  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:49:45pm

Well all those pissed-off operatives who emerged from the rubble of Goldwater’s campaign set a deliberate strategy of enlisting the theocrats and thumpers into the GOP party apparatus, and they succeeded spectacularly.
The result is this fucking madness we’re seeing here in Texas and from coast to coast. The GOP here in western Colorado is totally colonized at precinct level by these fuckwits. About the only difference between them and the Taliban is the beards.

The good news in all of this, if there is any, is that the GOP is now hostage to these clowns, and can’t adapt politically hardly at all. The bad news is that what used to be considered the political center in this republic is now considered to be far left - that’s how far out into the right field weeds they’ve dragged the whole political spectrum.
I’m totally rooting for this splendid woman - you go, sister. Kick their asses!

23 EPR-radar  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:50:05pm

re: #14 jamesfirecat

I had a fun story about a “libertarian” who grew out of it, he told me that growing up in high school some of his favorite books were 1984, Atlas Shrugged, and The Jungle.

One of these things it not like the other…

Which is why The Jungle needs to be airbrushed neatly out of history. I’m sure the Texas state board of education is working on this.

24 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:50:54pm

These shoes are made for filibustering, y’all:

Image: 19890_655530471141273_703798024_n.jpg

When you’re going to talk for 13 hours, it helps to have the right footwear.

25 GeneJockey  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:51:23pm

re: #17 gwangung

In other words, libertarianism doesn’t scale up.

EXACTLY.

re: #21 Charles Johnson

Libertarianism is essentially a scam. It plays on people’s naivete, and their wishes for a simpler world, and tells them that if they’re ultimately selfish, the world will achieve utopia.

It’s a deception that takes advantage of the young and the stupid, by making them think they’re more moral and principled than the rest of the dumb sheeple.

It’s like From Each/To Each Communism - it might work, if only it didn’t involve people.

26 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:52:21pm

There’s a reason why libertarianism appeals most strongly to teenagers — because it validates their egocentric world view and tells them it’s not just OK, it’s the ONE TRUE PATH, and everyone else is wrong.

That’s a powerful brand of snake oil.

27 gwangung  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:52:46pm

re:

re: #21 Charles Johnson

It’s like From Each/To Each Communism - it might work, if only it didn’t involve people.

That, too.

28 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:54:01pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

There’s a reason why libertarianism appeals most strongly to teenagers — because it validates their egocentric world view and tells them it’s not just OK, it’s the ONE TRUE PATH, and everyone else is wrong.

That’s a powerful brand of snake oil.

I’m still a believer in the idea that the biggest appeal that libertarianism offers to the youth vote is that idea that it will lead to legal weed.

29 Belafon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:54:48pm

re: #2 jamesfirecat

Texas is only one hour behind the east coast, not two. It’s currently 9:53pm central.

30 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:54:54pm
31 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:55:21pm

re: #28 Targetpractice

I’m still a believer in the idea that the biggest appeal that libertarianism offers to the youth vote is that idea that it will lead to legal weed.

Oh yeah, and also, weed.

32 GeneJockey  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:55:33pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

There’s a reason why libertarianism appeals most strongly to teenagers — because it validates their egocentric world view and tells them it’s not just OK, it’s the ONE TRUE PATH, and everyone else is wrong.

That’s a powerful brand of snake oil.

That sounds strangely familiar. Hmmm. Where have I heard that before?

Oh, yeah! Every Fundamentalist religion!

33 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:56:03pm

Caught on tape: Antiabortion center resorts to scary, dangerous lies

Stack was inspired to start the project after her own real-life experience as a scared teen visiting one. Though she had an appointment at a Planned Parenthood clinic for an abortion, she visited an Iowa clinic closer to her home. ” The “counseling” that I received included the following,” Stack wrote in a 2011 New York Times Op-Ed. “I was cautioned that abortions caused breast cancer, even though the National Cancer Institute has found serious flaws in all research that suggests so. I was warned that I would inevitably suffer from post-abortion stress syndrome, even though the American Psychological Association says there is no evidence of increased mental health problems among women who have an abortion in the first trimester. I was told that I would not hear this information from doctors, because doctors make money performing abortions and would lie about the procedure’s risks.”

Of course, the more famous secret recordings in abortion politics are on the right, with Live Action’s stings on Planned Parenthood and independent abortion clinics. Stack says there’s a difference: “The videos that Live Action puts out are promoting the myths and the fears that the antiabortion movement, such as the idea that abortion clinics cover up sex trafficking. Whereas our work is really much more investigative. We’re not creating unusual scenarios, we’re not looking to prove a particular thesis necessarily. We’re just going in there and letting them talk.”

Lying is just plain built into the antiabortion movement. Women can’t be allowed facts, if said facts could lead to them doing anything to control their own bodies. No contraception, no sex, no abortions.

This is why this brave senator can make a 13-hour filibuster of cogent arguments rather than reading phonebooks. Because the other side—and the arguments used in the course of pushing through this legislation—are just a giant confection of lies and self-deception.

34 GeneJockey  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:56:42pm

re: #33 The Ghost of a Flea

Lyin’ for Jesus.

35 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:58:08pm
36 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:58:19pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Libertarians are weird. They just are.

I found this was a good explanation for them: Marxism of the Right.

37 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:58:24pm

re: #27 gwangung

re: #21 Charles Johnson

It’s like From Each/To Each Communism - it might work, if only it didn’t involve people.

That, too.

Like anything else, I think the problem boils down to fundamentalism. There are reasonable cases to be made for individual liberty or communal obligations but once people fall into “if it isn’t in the Constitution (or the writing of Marx, the Bible or Quran) then it’s invalid” is where people get into trouble. some people, even anarchists and libertarians, like rules and easy answers. Go figure.

38 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:58:25pm

Amen, sister:

39 Randall Gross  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:58:54pm

re: #15 ProTARDISLiberal

*sniff sniff*

I smell Photoshop

It’s in one of the banners that pops up at her site here:

donnacampbell.com

40 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:59:22pm

Libertarianism these days might as well be called Randism, because both run on the same ideals: Selfishness is a virtue, the “Free Market” always knows what’s best, the “right” to be an idiot overrides any concern about public safety, and most importantly the true measure of a man’s value to society is the size of his bank account.

41 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:59:38pm

re: #29 Belafon

No DST? You’re correct: timeanddate.com

42 PT Barnum  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:59:49pm

As John Rogers once said:

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

43 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:00:02pm

re: #36 Romantic Heretic

I found this was a good explanation for them: Marxism of the Right.

Ayn Rand/Objectivism is to Marixsm as Satsnism is to Christanity, it is not really a new philosophy, just take the old ones nd say everything it said was bad is actually good and everything it says is good is really bad.

44 gunnison  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:00:26pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

There’s a reason why libertarianism appeals most strongly to teenagers — because it validates their egocentric world view and tells them it’s not just OK, it’s the ONE TRUE PATH, and everyone else is wrong.

That’s a powerful brand of snake oil.

It sure is, but none of the teenagers around here that I know, and that’s quite a few, have any time for that shit at all.
Not that rural mountain towns aren’t knee deep in libertarians, they are, but they’re mostly boomer generation, at least around here. Simple minded fuckers, most of them, in that for them government is the root of all problems, so the solution -hey presto!- is to eviscerate it.

On the other hand, they are definitely good people in a neighborly sense. Totally generous, cooperative, thoughtful, and no way anyone can get away with fucking around with your stuff if you’re out of town.
It’s kind of a weird anomaly, in a way.

45 Gus  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:00:37pm
46 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:00:38pm

re: #34 GeneJockey

Lyin’ for Jesus.

Lyin’ for a patriarchy that has co-opted Jesus as the ultimate male authority figure, so that’s it’s a divine mandate that women shouldn’t understand their own bodies, let alone control them.

47 efuseakay  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:00:51pm

re: #19 jaunte

She has her finger on the trigger; not sure what she’s looking at.
donnacampbell.com

A uterus.

48 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:00:58pm

So as I understand it, the Texas legislature has to pass the bill by midnight Central Daylight Time or it dies with the end of session, correct?

49 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:02:13pm

re: #48 Dark_Falcon

So as I understand it, the Texas legislature has to pass the bill by midnight Central Daylight Time or it dies with the end of session, correct?

Correct. Hence the repeated attempts to argue that she’s either strayed from topic or engaged in some other taboo, thus allowing them to say her filibuster is effectively over and allowing them to call a vote.

50 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:02:14pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

Libertarianism is essentially a scam. It plays on people’s naivete, and their wishes for a simpler world, and tells them that if they’re ultimately selfish, the world will achieve utopia.

It’s a deception that takes advantage of the young and the stupid, by making them think they’re more moral and principled than the rest of the dumb sheeple.

I’ve always liked this quote about libertarianism.

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

51 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:03:08pm

re: #41 Justanotherhuman

No DST? You’re correct: timeanddate.com

Texas has had Daylight Savings Time for many years. The entire Central Time Zone in the US uses DST, in fact. The only state holdout is Arizona, in Mountain time.

52 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:03:18pm

re: #42 PT Barnum

As John Rogers once said:

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

My younger brother started with LotR and has now, at 50, gone Ron Paul libertarian.

Some people are just susceptible to fantastic views of reality.

53 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:03:33pm

re: #42 PT Barnum

As John Rogers once said:

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

It’s worth pointing out that John Rogers went on to play a major part in Leverage, a show which lasted five wonderful seasons and was basically “rich white guys commit white color crimes, escape justice, and then we come in to ruin their lives in a hilarious fashion” the show. (Though to be fair they also Helped prevent Thebrother of an African Nations president from rising to power and becomming a despot, helped cyber freedom in Iran, and stopped one of the “Stans” from developing nuclear weapons.)

54 PT Barnum  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:03:47pm

re: #40 Targetpractice

Libertarianism these days might as well be called Randism, because both run on the same ideals: Selfishness is a virtue, the “Free Market” always knows what’s best, the “right” to be an idiot overrides any concern about public safety, and most importantly the true measure of a man’s value to society is the size of his bank account.

Libertarianism’s naivete is that it assumes that people will actually play fair in the process of doing whetever they hell they please.

55 Randall Gross  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:03:52pm

This is not looking good, they might have stopped her with strike three, everyone filing in like for a vote….

56 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:04:35pm

Wow. The Republicans just SHUT DOWN WENDY DAVIS!

57 ProTARDISLiberal  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:04:43pm

re: #39 Randall Gross

Oh I know, but still, looks fake.

58 jaunte  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:04:49pm

Crap.

59 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:04:53pm

Libertarianism to me is frankly too idealistic. It’s almost like a reverse of communism. It relies on a fantastical vision of the economy and people. Frankly Randian Objectivist philosophy is one of the most silly elements in American politics. As for Senator Davis, what an admirable woman. keep it up ma’am.

60 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:05:08pm

re: #48 Dark_Falcon

So as I understand it, the Texas legislature has to pass the bill by midnight Central Daylight Time or it dies with the end of session, correct?

Yes. Which is why the assholes in your party keep trying to find any reason at all to kill the filibuster of this inhumane bill.

61 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:05:23pm

re: #49 Targetpractice

Correct. Hence the repeated attempts to argue that she’s either strayed from topic or engaged in some other taboo, thus allowing them to say her filibuster is effectively over and allowing them to call a vote.

Well, if she pulls this off it’s gonna go down in history alongside Strom Thurmond in 1957 for epic American fillibusters.

That her cause is better than his was in my eyes should go without saying.

62 PT Barnum  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:05:34pm

re: #52 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

My younger brother started with LotR and has now, at 50, gone Ron Paul libertarian.

Some people are just susceptible to fantastic views of reality.

The difference is that most people who still read fantasy novels don’t confuse them with reality.

63 Belafon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:06:01pm

re: #56 Charles Johnson

Once again, they got to play Calvinball. In one of the previous filibusters, aids circled a senator so he could pee in a can. She got dinged for having someone help her with her back brace.

64 Gus  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:06:04pm

It’s over.

65 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:06:34pm

Well at the very least, I hope she brought national attention to the shit the GOP is doing in state legislatures throughout the country.

66 EPR-radar  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:06:42pm

re: #63 Belafon

Once again, they got to play Calvinball. In one of the previous filibusters, aids circled a senator so he could pee in a can. She got dinged for having someone help her with her back brace.

How typical for the scum of the earth that infests the GOP these days.

67 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:06:50pm

re: #61 Dark_Falcon

That her cause is better than his was in my eyes should go without saying.

It doesn’t matter what you think of her cause if you keep voting for the same type of assholes that would destroy women’s rights in this country.

68 ProTARDISLiberal  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:07:13pm

re: #64 Gus

It was a really good try. Only reason it failed was the Republicans played crooked.

Evidence why feminism is needed #1352

Also, this is something that Saudi would do.

69 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:07:27pm

re: #51 Dark_Falcon

Thinking it was 2 hrs, not 1 behind . I just wish they’d stop screwing with the time. : )

70 Belafon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:07:32pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

Hopefully, everyone in this picture is planning how they are going to help GOTV for next year.

71 PT Barnum  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:08:15pm

re: #68 ProTARDISLiberal

It was a really good try. Only reason it failed was the Republicans played crooked.

Evidence why feminism is needed #1352

Also, this is something that Saudi would do.

So much for GOP redefinition.

72 EPR-radar  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:08:45pm

re: #67 Lidane

It doesn’t matter what you think of her cause if you keep voting for the same type of assholes that would destroy women’s rights in this country.

This falls into the intent is not magic category. If someone votes for today’s GOP, I could not possibly care less about their intentions or purity of heart.

73 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:09:11pm

re: #71 PT Barnum

So much for GOP redefinition.

They’ve managed to redefine themselves as even bigger assholes than they were last year.

74 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:09:18pm

This is just disgusting. You’re seeing the face of the Republican Party, folks.

75 Interesting Times  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:09:21pm

When pretty words just won’t suffice:

76 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:09:45pm

There is a special level of hell reserved for the Texas GOP, and for the American right wing.

This is what your cruelty and greed and endless pandering to the bigots, and religious fanatics and ignorant rednecks in order to win has wrought. I hope you’re all happy.

77 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:10:04pm

Goddamn it, just goddamn it. Those bastards.

78 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:10:10pm

The thing is this is happening in nearly every GOP controlled legislature in the country. If one doesn’t think, they’d try this crap on a federal level if they had the Senate and presidency(aware they already have), they’re kidding themselves and they’ll appoint judges who agree with them to uphold the laws.

79 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:10:22pm
80 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:10:42pm
81 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:10:58pm

re: #68 ProTARDISLiberal

It was a really good try. Only reason it failed was the Republicans played crooked.

Evidence why feminism is needed #1352

Also, this is something that Saudi would do.

The Saudis would have just arrested her openly. They aren’t ones for subtlety, not even ‘subtle’ by Texas standards. This sort of thing is more what you’d see in Iran.

82 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:11:00pm

re: #73 jamesfirecat

They’ve managed to redefine themselves as even bigger assholes than they were last year.

They’ve done that here for sure with Cooch and Jackson and the other nutcase they’ve got running for AG. I don’t like Bob McDonnell at all but Cooch makes McDonnell look like a flaming liberal.

83 jaunte  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:11:17pm
84 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:12:05pm

This is what I’d like to do to those scumbags in Texas.

Youtube Video

85 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:12:07pm

re: #81 Dark_Falcon

This sort of thing is more what you’d see in Iran.

I would think you’d be happy. You’re a Republican, after all. This is the kind of shit you vote for.

86 EPR-radar  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:12:22pm

re: #78 HappyWarrior

The thing is this is happening in nearly every GOP controlled legislature in the country. If one doesn’t think, they’d try this crap on a federal level if they had the Senate and presidency(aware they already have), they’re kidding themselves and they’ll appoint judges who agree with them to uphold the laws.

And after the elections of 2014, any blue or swing state that is still under GOP rule will promptly pass laws to give its electoral votes to the GOP.

They stopped talking about it for now since there is no point in doing this before the midterms of 2014.

87 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:12:38pm

You know what the fucking problem is. It’s people who are socially moderate even socially liberal who enable the GOP because they actually believe and buy the GOP line about taxes, spending, and the debt. The modern GOP is concerned with controlling people’s private lives and limiting any possibility of upward mobility.

88 jimmyvluv4u  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:13:09pm

Fuck yes, Wendy’s friend who’s been helping her out all afternoon is going to try to filibuster the decision of the speaker.

89 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:13:36pm

re: #86 EPR-radar

And after the elections of 2014, any blue or swing state that is still under GOP rule will promptly pass laws to give its electoral votes to the GOP.

They stopped talking about it for now since there is no point in doing this before the midterms of 2014.

For sure. A lot easier to pass a law than repeal one.

90 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:13:43pm

This has been a horrible, horrible day for rights. I may just drink the rest of that wine, even though I don’t normally drink.

Gah, I couldn’t be more fucking pissed off.

I dread tomorrow. DOMA and Prop 8 decisions are supposed to come out.

91 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:13:50pm

re: #76 Lidane

There is a special level of hell reserved for the Texas GOP, and for the American right wing.

This is what your cruelty and greed and endless pandering to the bigots, and religious fanatics and ignorant rednecks in order to win has wrought. I hope you’re all happy.

Lets see what Shepard Book has to say on the subject?


Shepard Book: …. you’re going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

92 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:14:22pm

re: #62 PT Barnum

The difference is that most people who still read fantasy novels don’t confuse them with reality.

I agree. He used LotR as some kind of life guide when he was young. Then he became a re-born Xtian, now a RP libertarian. The man is extremely intelligent yet he’s prone to weird ass things, including conspiracy theories. I had to talk him down from the 9/11 conspiracy.

93 ProTARDISLiberal  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:15:06pm

re: #81 Dark_Falcon

They are about one step out from that. You see the Senate Candidate in Georgia who wants boys and girls taught in separate classes?

The difference now between the Salafis and the Republicans are negligible.

94 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:15:13pm

re: #85 Lidane

I would think you’d be happy. You’re a Republican, after all. This is the kind of shit you vote for.

Yeah DF Your team won.

95 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:15:43pm

re: #90 Justanotherhuman

This has been a horrible, horrible day for rights. I may just drink the rest of that wine, even though I don’t normally drink.

Gah, I couldn’t be more fucking pissed off.

I dread tomorrow. DOMA and Prop 8 decisions are supposed to come out.

Well here’s to tomorrow being a better day. I think either way it goes 5-4 tomorrow. I have little to no faith in Roberts, Scalia, Alito, and Thomas to get a decision correct on LGBT rights.

96 Gus  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:16:05pm
97 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:16:08pm

re: #85 Lidane

Who do you think you’re talking to lady?! I’ve made pretty clear my dislike of make-it-up-as-you-along, and it’s been clear for years.

Only time I liked Calvinball was when Bill Watterson was drawing it.

98 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:16:25pm

re: #90 Justanotherhuman

This has been a horrible, horrible day for rights. I may just drink the rest of that wine, even though I don’t normally drink.

Gah, I couldn’t be more fucking pissed off.

I dread tomorrow. DOMA and Prop 8 decisions are supposed to come out.

The worst they can do is uphold DOMA its not like they can freshly rollback gay rights by deciding to reinstate DADT somehow…. Right?

99 Gus  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:16:40pm
100 EPR-radar  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:17:37pm

re: #98 jamesfirecat

The worst they can do is uphold DOMA its not like they can freshly rollback gay rights by deciding to reinstate DADT somehow…. Right?

Roberts is clever about how he sticks the knife in when serving his paymasters, but that should still be impossible.

101 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:17:43pm

re: #97 Dark_Falcon

You’re a loyal Republican, Dark. As long as you keep voting for anyone with an (R) after their name because they’re your team, this shit is going to keep happening.

Sorry if you don’t want to hear it, but them’s the facts.

102 ProTARDISLiberal  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:17:47pm

re: #93 ProTARDISLiberal

And I know this, having dealt with a Saudi Salafi.

Come to think of it, I should have a little chat with him over FB. About the time in the 1930’s when the Saudis pogromed the Jews out of Najran Province.

103 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:18:12pm

re: #97 Dark_Falcon

Who do you think you’re talking to lady?! I’ve made pretty clear my dislike of make-it-up-as-you-along, and it’s been clear for years.

Only time I liked Calvinball was when Bill Watterson was drawing it.

DF there have been several times when you have referred to yourself as a team player for the Republican Party. Well guess what, now you’re getting soaked in anti-abortion gatorade wheather you want it or not.

104 jimmyvluv4u  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:18:18pm

re: #88 jimmyvluv4u

Sen Watson is the colleague, after the current senator gets done stalling, I think he’s going to try to mount a filibuster of the decision to break the filibuster. That would be awesome.

105 The Great Eye  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:19:28pm

That’s libertarians for you — anarchists who want police protection from their slaves.

106 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:19:39pm

re: #104 jimmyvluv4u

Sen Watson is the colleague, after the current senator gets done stalling, I think he’s going to try to mount a filibuster of the decision to break the filibuster. That would be awesome.

Like any good game, the underdog’s best bet is to run down the clock. So long as they’ve got even a 1 point lead, so long as they can keep it til the buzzer, they win.

107 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:19:40pm

re: #104 jimmyvluv4u

Sen Watson is the colleague, after the current senator gets done stalling, I think he’s going to try to mount a filibuster of the decision to break the filibuster. That would be awesome.

Fillibusters all the way down!

108 jimmyvluv4u  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:19:50pm

90,000 people watching the livestream right now.

109 ProTARDISLiberal  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:20:05pm

re: #102 ProTARDISLiberal

I didn’t learn about that little bit of evil until about 2 months ago.

110 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:20:43pm

How the hell does a party get elected claiming to favor individual rights and limited government while the constantly try to repeal the rights granted in a decision 40 years ago. Find a fucking new hobby other than telling women what to do with their bodies Republicans like you know actually doing something to improve education, roads, etc rather than claiming doing that is socialism all the while you seek to use the government to push your morals on the rest of us.

111 jaunte  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:21:08pm

Chickenshit germaneness ruling.
“Digression from a discussion of a pending amendment.”

112 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:21:22pm

Goodnight, all. You’re ticked off and I understand why, so I’m not going to hang around on a night when I’m not really welcome. I’ll be back tomorrow.

113 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:22:00pm
114 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:22:48pm

re: #110 HappyWarrior

How the hell does a party get elected claiming to favor individual rights and limited government while the constantly try to repeal the rights granted in a decision 40 years ago. Find a fucking new hobby other than telling women what to do with their bodies Republicans like you know actually doing something to improve education, roads, etc rather than claiming doing that is socialism all the while you seek to use the government to push your morals on the rest of us.

The GOP’s job, at least in their eyes, is to make every effort to turn the clock back 60 years. Their entire focus since the 1980s has been to undo everything that happened between 1959 and 1979.

115 122 Year Old Obama  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:23:04pm

re: #97 Dark_Falcon

Who do you think you’re talking to lady?! I’ve made pretty clear my dislike of make-it-up-as-you-along, and it’s been clear for years.

Only time I liked Calvinball was when Bill Watterson was drawing it.

This talk is useless when you keep voting for them anyways.

116 EPR-radar  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:23:29pm

re: #97 Dark_Falcon

Who do you think you’re talking to lady?! I’ve made pretty clear my dislike of make-it-up-as-you-along, and it’s been clear for years.

Only time I liked Calvinball was when Bill Watterson was drawing it.

This and worse is now GOP orthodoxy. I think it is impossible to reform the GOP from within. Thus, IMO decent people should leave it so that the GOP become exclusively the party of cranks and bigots and fades away as quickly as possible. We can get a sane center-right party back after the kooks are marginalized.

117 Randall Gross  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:23:30pm

Right now it’s all rope a dope parliamentary inquiry to run out the clock by the dems, let’s hope that can continue.

118 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:23:33pm

Now they’re trying to shut Bill Watson down with parliamentary bullshit.

119 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:23:33pm

re: #113 Lidane

The disconnect from the GOP is amazing. They seem to believe that gun ownership should be totally unregulated and that it’s even a holy right but a woman exercising her right to choose which as said has been something ruled constitutional for four decades now is just horrible. Fuck that party really. Fuck them.

120 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:23:49pm

re: #112 Dark_Falcon

Goodnight, all. You’re ticked off and I understand why, so I’m not going to hang around on a night when I’m not really welcome. I’ll be back tomorrow.

Please spend at least a little time mediating if it is worth it to cling to a party with this many and this obvious faults tonight DF.

121 jaunte  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:23:55pm

Dewhurst is such a lying weenie.

122 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:24:17pm

OT

On twitter, I’m being lectured on science by someone who thinks theories graduate to laws, chaos means all messed up, isn’t scientific and has nothing to do with climate/weather and then asked me if the climate is maybe complex, about two minutes after I said it was a complex system.

123 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:24:26pm

re: #119 HappyWarrior

I’d never let one of those bastards near me.

124 EPR-radar  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:24:41pm

re: #114 Targetpractice

The GOP’s job, at least in their eyes, is to make every effort to turn the clock back 60 years. Their entire focus since the 1980s has been to undo everything that happened between 1959 and 1979.

And a nontrivial fraction of the nutballs want to add 100 years to your timeline…

125 ProTARDISLiberal  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:25:02pm

re: #121 jaunte

Probably couldn’t see with an electron microscope.

If a man (or group of men) feel a need to control women, they aren’t Men. They are immature whiny little boys.

126 jimmyvluv4u  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:25:05pm

re: #117 Randall Gross

I think Senator Watson is attempting to filibuster the president’s decision to give the third strike. The stalling is to give them time to come up with speaking material. If he gets to start, I think they will get this done!

127 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:25:26pm

re: #112 Dark_Falcon

Goodnight, all. You’re ticked off and I understand why, so I’m not going to hang around on a night when I’m not really welcome. I’ll be back tomorrow.

DF, you don’t have to leave the forum tonight but I think many are amazed that you can stay loyal to a party whose actions you oppose and continue to find yourself at odds with. I think you’d have a different pov on your party if you lived in a state that the Republicans had more control and influence in.

128 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:26:56pm

re: #125 ProTARDISLiberal

Probably couldn’t see with an electron microscope.

If a man (or group of men) feel a need to control women, they aren’t Men. They are immature whiny little boys.

They’re basically grown up version of the little boys we all knew who thought it made you a “queer” if you liked girls.

129 Interesting Times  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:28:49pm
130 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:29:35pm

re: #114 Targetpractice

The GOP’s job, at least in their eyes, is to make every effort to turn the clock back 60 years. Their entire focus since the 1980s has been to undo everything that happened between 1959 and 1979.

It really feels that way. In the past, you had Republicans who wanted to move along with the times. Sure they were conservative and adverse to rapid change but they at their core knew that progress was a good thing for a society but since the “Reagan Revolution” and later the Wave of Morons in 2010, we’ve seen a GOP hellbent on turning back on the clock on progress. I didn’t always believe it but when I saw GOPers opposing birth control, something that well over 90% of couples use, I knew it.

131 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:29:40pm

re: #115 122 Year Old Obama

This talk is useless when you keep voting for them anyways.

THIS. SO MUCH.

132 Interesting Times  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:30:09pm
133 jaunte  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:30:39pm

99,000 people are watching live feed.

134 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:31:06pm

So…
They’re filibustering the decision to end the filibuster?
Cool beans.

135 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:31:19pm

They’re trying to use Bill Watson’s yield to a parliamentary procedure to allow another senator to present a motion, contrary to the rules. Watson should still have the floor.

The cheating bastards.

136 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:31:29pm

re: #134 Varek Raith

So…
They’re filibustering the decision to end the filibuster?
Cool beans.

Yeah neato.

137 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:32:06pm

re: #135 Justanotherhuman

They’re trying to use Bill Watson’s yield to a parliamentary procedure to allow another senator to present a motion, contrary to the rules. Watson should still have the floor.

The cheating bastards.

So they’re trying to argue that she violated the rules while violating them to force through the vote?

138 jaunte  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:32:59pm

re: #137 Targetpractice

Lying is only a rule violation if someone protests strongly enough.

139 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:33:03pm

re: #130 HappyWarrior

It really feels that way. In the past, you had Republicans who wanted to move along with the times. Sure they were conservative and adverse to rapid change but they at their core knew that progress was a good thing for a society but since the “Reagan Revolution” and later the Wave of Morons in 2010, we’ve seen a GOP hellbent on turning back on the clock on progress. I didn’t always believe it but when I saw GOPers opposing birth control, something that well over 90% of couples use, I knew it.

Conservatives used to be serious people in who actually knew things and asked important questions like “how can we best pay for all the important government spending our nation requires to function?” Now they just stand athwart the train tracks of progress bellowing “STOP” as loud as they can.

140 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:33:25pm

Keep this up to run up the clock. Keep asking questions, Dems.

141 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:33:33pm

re: #134 Varek Raith

So…
They’re filibustering the decision to end the filibuster?
Cool beans.

Yo, dawg. I heard you like filibsuters…

142 darthstar  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:33:40pm

Only about 90 minutes to go! Go Wendy Davis!

143 Gus  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:34:03pm

re: #133 jaunte

99,000 people are watching live feed.

102,515

144 EPR-radar  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:34:03pm

re: #115 122 Year Old Obama

This talk is useless when you keep voting for them anyways.

Voting for the GOP means 1) approval of the GOP agenda and/or 2) viewing the GOP as a lesser evil than the Democrats.

Item #2 is getting really hard to defend these days.

145 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:34:09pm

More than 100,000 people watching the YouTube live feed. The world is watching.

146 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:34:52pm

re: #145 Charles Johnson

More than 100,000 people watching the YouTube live feed. The world is watching.

Not mention the people watching people who are watching…

147 darthstar  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:35:18pm

Fuck you, Republicans…the people have spoken.

148 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:35:57pm
149 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:36:06pm

re: #147 darthstar

Fuck you, Republicans…the people have spoken.

Does Texas have recall elections?

150 EPR-radar  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:36:19pm

re: #145 Charles Johnson

More than 100,000 people watching the YouTube live feed. The world is watching.

May this be a catalyst. It would be nice to see a movement to get the equal rights amendment back on track. Also on my wish list is a broad voting rights amendment.

151 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:36:56pm

Stupid motherfucker: I recognized Senator Estes. Out of order, idiot. Watson had the floor.

152 jaunte  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:36:58pm

Paul Burka on David Dewhurst:
texasmonthly.com

“…It would be different if even one of Dewhurst’s issues were good for the state, but even that hurdle is too high to climb. Water? Who needs it? Roads? We’ve got plenty of them. Education? Sure, let’s give public money to TLR for private schools. What we really need are drug tests for welfare recipients and people seeking unemployment benefits. Campus carry? Now you’re talking. Let’s not forget redistricting and Voter I.D. Surely there’s an abortion bill we’ve neglected to pass.”

153 Interesting Times  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:37:01pm
154 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:37:07pm

re: #139 jamesfirecat

Conservatives used to be serious people in who actually knew things and asked important questions like “how can we best pay for all the important government spending our nation requires to function?” Now they just stand atop the athwart the train tracks of progress bellowing “STOP” as loud as they can.

Yep. That and crazy conspiracy theories have really set conservatism back years. When you have prominent and popular conservative elected officials like Michelle Bachmann claiming that the IRS scandal means the IRS will use their power to deny health care to conservatives, you’re seeing just how nutty conservatism has become. Conservatives need a serious leader who will stop coddling them and telling them that their cause is always right.

155 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:37:15pm
156 Gus  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:37:18pm

Who’s on first?

157 jaunte  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:38:19pm

“Moshun tuh taybul.”

158 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:39:06pm
159 Gus  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:39:53pm
160 EPR-radar  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:39:59pm

re: #154 HappyWarrior

Yep. That and crazy conspiracy theories have really set conservatism back years. When you have prominent and popular conservative elected officials like Michelle Bachmann claiming that the IRS scandal means the IRS will use their power to deny health care to conservatives, you’re seeing just how nutty conservatism has become. Conservatives need a serious leader who will stop coddling them and telling them that their cause is always right.

Burke? And there were legitimate issues with the French Revolution.

In contrast, US Conservatism has been huffing the crack of race-based resentment for 150 years, and is naturally bereft of ideas.

161 jimmyvluv4u  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:40:19pm

If they are going to fuck Senator Watson, then the next time one of the Democrats gets the floor, they should refuse to yield to inquiries of parliamentary procedure and just keep talking.

162 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:40:21pm

re: #157 jaunte

“Moshun tuh taybul.”

Tekeli-li! Tekeli-li!

163 ProTARDISLiberal  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:40:38pm

re: #159 Gus

Wow, does he look like a bug-eyed inbred.

164 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:40:45pm
165 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:41:01pm

Haha, Watson is schooling them on the rules.

166 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:41:36pm

re: #160 EPR-radar

Burke? And there were legitimate issues with the French Revolution.

In contrast, US Conservatism has been huffing the crack of race-based resentment for 150 years, and is naturally bereft of ideas.

Honestly I can’t think of any time in history I would have been a conservative. Conservatism to me while it has some virtues has more flaws than virtues.

167 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:41:45pm

re: #165 Justanotherhuman

Haha, Watson is schooling them on the rules.

Good. Let him be a rule quoting motherfucker for the next 80 minutes.

168 jaunte  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:42:16pm
169 ProTARDISLiberal  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:43:03pm

re: #168 jaunte

The guy with the most punch-able face sez what?

170 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:43:18pm
171 EPR-radar  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:43:51pm

re: #166 HappyWarrior

Honestly I can’t think of any time in history I would have been a conservative. Conservatism to me while it has some virtues has more flaws than virtues.

IMO, the proper role for a conservative party is to provide enough rational opposition to more progressive parties to keep the progressive parties honest.

At least in the US, conservatives are demonstrably incapable of governing.

172 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:43:55pm

re: #119 HappyWarrior

The disconnect from the GOP is amazing. They seem to believe that gun ownership should be totally unregulated and that it’s even a holy right but a woman exercising her right to choose which as said has been something ruled constitutional for four decades now is just horrible. Fuck that party really. Fuck them.

The GOP has invited in more and more people who have contempt for representative democracy. Their new coalition weds together corporate kleptocrats, theocrats, and fascists. The letter of the law…and, for that matter, the Constitution…really doesn’t matter. Their ends justify their means, including doing elaborate end-runs around the basic structures of governance and democracy. They can’t pull off their full agenda openly…yet…so they’re testing and re-testing how much they can get away with.

With that in mind, consider the back end of their obsession with gun rights: that they’re crafting a legal and penal system where de facto, white, propertied gun owners get the benefit of the doubt, while brown, poor people face greater scrutiny. So really, it’s not an expansion of rights at all.

173 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:44:07pm
174 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:45:04pm

re: #171 EPR-radar

IMO, the proper role for a conservative party is to provide enough rational opposition to more progressive parties to keep the progressive parties honest.

At least in the US, conservatives are demonstrably incapable of governing.

True points. I guess a good analogy of what you’re pointing out is how the late 40’s and 50’s GOP promised a more efficient New Deal or even how Nixon tried to make more efficient the Great Society.

175 Kragar  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:45:49pm

Cuccinelli Appeals Decision To Overturn VA’s Anti-Sodomy Law

Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court Tuesday to uphold Virginia’s anti-sodomy law, arguing that if the law is overturned nearly 90 people convicted of sex crimes involving minors could qualify to have their names erased from the state’s sex offender registry.

Back in March, a panel of the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that Virginia’s “crimes against nature law,” which says oral and anal sex is illegal, is unconstitutional. The law, according to Cuccinelli, led to a 47-year-old man’s conviction of criminal solicitation for allegedly demanding oral sex from a 17-year-old girl.

So according to Cuccinelli, if the 47 year old had merely demanded to have sex with the 17 year old, it would have been okay? They needed to specify oral sex to make it illegal?

176 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:45:54pm

*sigh*

177 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:46:53pm

re: #175 Kragar

Cuccinelli Appeals Decision To Overturn VA’s Anti-Sodomy Law

So according to Cuccinelli, if the 47 year old had merely demanded to have sex with the 17 year old, it would have been okay? They needed to specify oral sex to make it illegal?

Are hand jobs in or out?

178 Kragar  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:46:53pm

re: #176 Lidane

*sigh*

FUCK YOU, RICK PERRY!

179 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:47:11pm

re: #176 Lidane

It’s going to be worse next time—for the Rs.

180 122 Year Old Obama  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:47:14pm

re: #176 Lidane

ASGHADHS I’m running out of coherent things to say. AUGH

181 EPR-radar  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:47:16pm

re: #172 The Ghost of a Flea

The GOP has invited in more and more people who have contempt for representative democracy. Their new coalition weds together corporate kleptocrats, theocrats, and fascists. The letter of the law…and, for that matter, the Constitution…really doesn’t matter. Their ends justify their means, including doing elaborate end-runs around the basic structures of governance and democracy. They can’t pull off their full agenda openly…yet…so they’re testing and re-testing how much they can get away with.

With that in mind, consider the back end of their obsession with gun rights: that they’re crafting a legal and penal system where de facto, white, propertied gun owners get the benefit of the doubt, while brown, poor people face greater scrutiny. So really, it’s not an expansion of rights at all.

It really does seem that the GOP end-game if they ever get real Federal power again is for the fat cats to steal everything and flee the country, while the rabble in the base act out their gun and religion fantasies in a rapidly decaying society.

182 dragonath  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:47:21pm

re: #176 Lidane

*sigh*

Religious fucking loons.

183 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:48:22pm

re: #181 EPR-radar

It really does seem that the GOP end-game if they ever get real Federal power again is for the fat cats to steal everything and flee the country, while the rabble in the base act out their gun and religion fantasies in a rapidly decaying society.

I suppose we’ll call that the Rapture Plan, now would you kindly vote for Jeb Bush?

184 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:48:22pm

re: #177 jamesfirecat

Hand jobs are always “OK”.

185 Interesting Times  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:48:26pm

Multi-layered insult FTW:

186 darthstar  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:48:27pm
187 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:48:40pm

re: #175 Kragar

Cuccinelli Appeals Decision To Overturn VA’s Anti-Sodomy Law

So according to Cuccinelli, if the 47 year old had merely demanded to have sex with the 17 year old, it would have been okay? They needed to specify oral sex to make it illegal?

Of course. These kind of issues are why the GOP base here loves Coochie.

188 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:49:20pm
189 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:49:39pm

re: #177 jamesfirecat

Are hand jobs in or out?

Only for Ken’s secret lovers. I swear this guy has a Bryan Fischer like obsession with the sex life of adults.

190 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:50:33pm
191 EPR-radar  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:50:52pm

re: #179 Justanotherhuman

It’s going to be worse next time—for the Rs.

They really are stupid on this point. The anti-abortion stuff has to be done by stealth.

Riling up women who care about their self-determination is just dumb. This is a far larger block of voters than the other canonical GOP targets (e.g., racial minorities and gays). Plus, there are plenty of men out there who aren’t fond of the idea that their mothers, sisters and daughters are chattel.

192 Interesting Times  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:51:35pm
193 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:51:37pm
194 GeneJockey  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:52:15pm

re: #181 EPR-radar

It really does seem that the GOP end-game if they ever get real Federal power again is for the fat cats to steal everything and flee the country, while the rabble in the base act out their gun and religion fantasies in a rapidly decaying society.

If you think they’re thinking, you’re overthinking. What they’re doing is trying desperately to hold on to power in the here and now, and to make as many regressive changes as possible.

The whole outreach thing was always going to be a bust, because the Wingnuts know they’re right, and thus cannot compromise any ‘principle’ for electoral purposes. And their last two Presidential losses, and the 2010 election in between showed them their only hope is to keep the wrong people from voting for as long as they can.

195 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:52:41pm

re: #176 Lidane

*sigh*

You knew that Perry had to have another card up his sleeve. There was no way he was going to just let this bill die on his watch.

196 simoom  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:52:58pm
197 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:53:25pm

At least this pinot grigio is allowing me to enjoy this farce.

198 EPR-radar  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:53:34pm

re: #194 GeneJockey

If you think they’re thinking, you’re overthinking. What they’re doing is trying desperately to hold on to power in the here and now, and to make as many regressive changes as possible.

The whole outreach thing was always going to be a bust, because the Wingnuts know they’re right, and thus cannot compromise any ‘principle’ for electoral purposes. And their last two Presidential losses, and the 2010 election in between showed them their only hope is to keep the wrong people from voting for as long as they can.

The only thinking I’m assuming in this scenario is the fat cats (i.e., Romney et al) stealing and running. The base is as close to mindless as the zombie horde in a movie.

199 jaunte  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:53:47pm

About 13 million Texans are women.

200 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:54:34pm

re: #191 EPR-radar

They really are stupid on this point. The anti-abortion stuff has to be done by stealth.

Riling up women who care about their self-determination is just dumb. This is a far larger block of voters than the other canonical GOP targets (e.g., racial minorities and gays). Plus, there are plenty of men out there who aren’t fond of the idea that their mothers, sisters and daughters are chattel.

Also women are much harder to disenfranchise than most other “minorities” because they tend to live in the same general area and ahve access to she same resources as their husbands/fathers/mothers/family (making it harder for poor people to vote won’t keep middle class white women from chucking your ass out on the curb)

201 Gus  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:55:05pm

Democrats used the Senate’s rules to help defeat a voter identification bill, supported by Dewhurst and the Republican majorities, in 2009.

202 GeneJockey  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:55:22pm

re: #198 EPR-radar

The only thinking I’m assuming in this scenario is the fat cats (i.e., Romney et al) stealing and running. The base is as close to mindless as the zombie horde in a movie.

I’m not convinced the fat cats think ahead, either. The Financial Crisis disabused me of that particular notion.

203 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:55:32pm
204 darthstar  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:55:50pm

Because Republicans ( and especially Texas Republicans) will think this song is a compliment.

Youtube Video

205 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:56:50pm

Is there no sound?

206 dragonath  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:56:51pm

Well, if bringing back the Voter ID act and trying to pass this law in one day doesn’t wake up a few people, I don’t know what will.

207 Interesting Times  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:57:08pm
208 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:57:10pm

re: #198 EPR-radar

The only thinking I’m assuming in this scenario is the fat cats (i.e., Romney et al) stealing and running. The base is as close to mindless as the zombie horde in a movie.

It begs to me the question of who’s worse for the country. The so-con base who only seem to care about controlling the private lives of others e.g. drug use, abortion, gay marriage, different or no religion, etc or the head honchos who only care about how much dime they can make. It’s an unholy alliance of biblical fundies and Randian fundies. What the GOP needs desperately is a good ass kicking so both the base and leadership will know that both visions of the country don’t appeal. But as long as people blindly vote for the GOP to make elections somewhat close, we won’t see that and I don’t think we will for a while. The changing demographics may eventually though prove end up being their undoing but then again, the changing demographics have played a role in their increasing madness. We see how a majority of non-white babies has been responded with.

209 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:57:24pm

re: #195 Targetpractice

You knew that Perry had to have another card up his sleeve. There was no way he was going to just let this bill die on his watch.

Stopping the bill is the equivalent of the Starcraft 2 Mission “In Utter Darknes” victory is impossible, you know it from the start, what matters is that you make as grand a funeral pyre for yourself in defeat as possible and fling a light into the future.

210 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:58:18pm

re: #209 jamesfirecat

Stopping the bill is the equivalent of the Starcraft 2 Mission “In Utter Darknes” victory is impossible, you know it from the start, what matters is that you make as grand a funeral pyre for yourself in defeat as possible and fling a light into the future.

*sigh* Kobayashi Maru.

211 EPR-radar  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:59:05pm

re: #202 GeneJockey

I’m not convinced the fat cats think ahead, either. The Financial Crisis disabused me of that particular notion.

They won’t really need to think ahead. When the excrement impacts the impeller in the US, the fat cats will be the ones with the means to flee the destruction they have wrought.

Plus, the financial crisis hasn’t been much of a loss for the masters of the Universe. Their profits have been pocketed, their losses socialized. Looks like their win to me.

212 jaunte  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:59:13pm

re: #207 Interesting Times

GOHMERT!

213 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 8:59:19pm
214 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:00:14pm

Maybe they need a bit of Lysistrata in Texas.

215 Interesting Times  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:00:48pm
216 ProTARDISLiberal  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:00:51pm

re: #209 jamesfirecat

Or the final battle in Final Fantasy VII:Crisis Core

Youtube Video

217 EPR-radar  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:01:11pm

re: #214 Justanotherhuman

Maybe they need a bit of Lysistrata in Texas.

Dewhurst badly needs 40 years of involuntary celibacy.

218 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:01:35pm

re: #210 Targetpractice

*sigh* Kobayashi Maru.

No.

The Kobayshi Maru teaches about oneself, but it has no meaning for the future or others in what you do it is only about of learning. This is about forcing your foes to go all out to defeat you and creating as grand a battle as possible so it will be remembered for years to come…

219 jaunte  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:02:04pm

re: #217 EPR-radar

I don’t think his problem is on that end.

220 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:02:37pm

re: #214 Justanotherhuman

Maybe they need a bit of Lysistrata in Texas.

No abortion, no kinky stuff, no contraception, no sex is the only way to be safe honey.

221 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:02:56pm

re: #212 jaunte

GOHMERT!

Even a brilliant wordsmith like the great Orwell couldn’t coin a phrase to describe the mess that is Congressman Louis Gohmert.

222 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:03:04pm

re: #216 ProTARDISLiberal

Or the final battle in Final Fantasy VII:Crisis Core

Yes, or Halo Reach for that matter.

223 Interesting Times  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:03:09pm

re: #219 jaunte

I don’t think his problem is on that end.

Yes it is, given where his head must be located…

224 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:03:18pm

This topic bothers me greatly.. You have no idea..I must have deleted a hundred post…
If after a 20 weeks a woman decides to abort..Which is what around 5 months? right?
The mother must be in great distress..It must be the worst time and something isn’t right..
Why don’t we support her? What can man do to help her? We have a mother in distress and we don’t rush in to support her?
No we pass a fucking law…
This is why everything we to do with new life should be between a woman and her doctor..And everybody else needs to get the fuck out of this issue.
Ya hear me Texas?

225 Kragar  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:03:52pm

You would think the “last bastion of freedom” in the United States would have fewer rules forcing people to follow other people’s beliefs.

226 Randall Gross  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:04:03pm

56 minutes

227 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:04:58pm

re: #226 Randall Gross

56 minutes

Fuck it, not going to sleep till we find out one way or another I can stay up another hour.

Who wans to hear more about Starcraft 2 (Heart of the Swarm) or Bioshock Infinite?

228 ProTARDISLiberal  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:05:20pm

re: #222 jamesfirecat

One of the most well done endings in Final Fantasy history. Hell, in Video Game history.

You vs. hundreds (maybe thousands) of guys and a platoon or two of Copters.

Only 3 guys and 1 helicopter survive the onslaught. Also, emotionally gut-wrenching.

229 EPR-radar  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:05:21pm

re: #225 Kragar

You would think the “last bastion of freedom” in the United States would have fewer rules forcing people to follow other people’s beliefs.

Freedom = the power to force others to live by one’s own moral code.

230 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:05:31pm

re: #227 jamesfirecat

Fuck it, not going to sleep till we find out one way or another I can stay up another hour.

Who wans to hear more about Starcraft 2 or Bioshock Infinite?

Heads? Or Tails?

231 gwangung  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:05:59pm

re: #221 HappyWarrior

Even a brilliant wordsmith like the great Orwell couldn’t coin a phrase to describe the mess that is Congressman Louis Gohmert.

You’re making the mistake of thinking of the woman. At all.

232 darthstar  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:06:37pm

re: #226 Randall Gross

56 minutes

If Perry calls a second session, I hope someone pulls a Wendy Davis and filibusters it.

234 EPR-radar  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:07:57pm

re: #232 darthstar

If Perry calls a second session, I hope someone pulls a Wendy Davis and filibusters it.

The filibuster in TX is not long for this world.

235 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:07:59pm

re: #230 Targetpractice

Heads? Or Tails?

Honestly I have a really weird idea for why it keeps landing heads that nobody else seems to buy into.

The first time you meat them a coin flip is always landing heads.

The second time you meet them they give you a device which allows your body to generate a magnetic field strong enough to stop bullets.

Is it really so unreasonable to think the coin/plate might be magnetized in such a way that it will land heads 99.9% of the time?

236 celticdragon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:08:09pm

re: #232 darthstar

If Perry calls a second session, I hope someone pulls a Wendy Davis and filibusters it.

Let the Adeptus Administratum from Warhammer 40K deal with it. Three hundred years later, you might get a reply that the forms were not filled out correctly…

237 klys and whatnot  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:08:34pm

Ni no Kuni has been a fucking awesome game.

I am close to 19 hours in as I am trying to decompress from graduation and family and ignore the world on shit like this. And the whole Snowden mess.

If you like JRPGs, I highly recommend it.

238 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:08:36pm

re: #218 jamesfirecat

No.

The Kobayshi Maru teaches about oneself, but it has no meaning for the future or others in what you do it is only about of learning. This is about forcing your foes to go all out to defeat you and creating as grand a battle as possible so it will be remembered for years to come…

Qapla’!

239 Kragar  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:09:02pm

Was the Texas Legislature just trying to recreate the hearing from Animal House?

Youtube Video

240 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:09:14pm

re: #233 Kragar

‘Bullsh*t!’ Texas Senate gallery erupts as GOP kills Sen. Wendy Davis’ filibuster

Lets bring Jim Belushi in so he can start coughing “Blow Job!”

241 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:09:18pm

re: #235 jamesfirecat

Honestly I have a really weird idea for why it keeps landing heads that nobody else seems to buy into.

The first time you meat them a coin flip is always landing heads.

The second time you meet them they give you a device which allows your body to generate a magnetic field strong enough to stop bullets.

Is it really so unreasonable to think the coin/plate might be magnetized in such a way that it will land heads 99.9% of the time?

Always sort of wondered if Robert was cheating in some fashion. After all, even assuming that you go with the theme that the same scenario plays out over and over, there would have to be some differences.

242 klys and whatnot  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:09:18pm

re: #235 jamesfirecat

Honestly I have a really weird idea for why it keeps landing heads that nobody else seems to buy into.

The first time you meat them a coin flip is always landing heads.

The second time you meet them they give you a device which allows your body to generate a magnetic field strong enough to stop bullets.

Is it really so unreasonable to think the coin/plate might be magnetized in such a way that it will land heads 99.9% of the time?

A very thin coating of iron on the tails side.

243 palomino  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:09:56pm

re: #97 Dark_Falcon

Who do you think you’re talking to lady?! I’ve made pretty clear my dislike of make-it-up-as-you-along, and it’s been clear for years.

Only time I liked Calvinball was when Bill Watterson was drawing it.

This is your party, and it’s what they’re trying to do all across the country. Own it.

244 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:10:15pm

re: #239 Kragar

Was the Texas Legislature just trying to recreate the hearing from Animal House?

No fair, beat me by 12 seconds!

245 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:10:24pm

Wow, this is unreal.

246 Belafon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:11:11pm

re: #232 darthstar

He could call a two week session just for this bill. Then, one person would have to filibuster for two weeks.

247 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:11:34pm

re: #241 Targetpractice

Always sort of wondered if Robert was cheating in some fashion. After all, even assuming that you go with the theme that the same scenario plays out over and over, there would have to be some differences.

Honestly lots of people think deep quantum mechanics fiddling about, but me, magnets, I mean it makes sense doesn’t it?

248 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:11:42pm

re: #245 Charles Johnson

Tell me about it. I’m about smashed after one glass of wine left over from christmas.

The TX legislature is fucking insane.

249 freetoken  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:11:57pm

We could call this “Alamo II”.

250 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:12:03pm

Your liberal media at work:

251 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:12:42pm

re: #250 Lidane

Your liberal media at work:

Fucking joke of a media. Sigh.

252 Interesting Times  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:12:42pm

Another lovely member of the GOP base:

EDIT: story turns out to be from last year, which, IMO, makes it worse - she’s been a target for a while now, and it’s only going to get worse

253 klys and whatnot  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:12:49pm

So it’s not for me but the evening here involves dealing with prescription strength laxatives.

I think someone should have slipped it into the TXGOP’s drinks.

254 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:13:05pm

re: #246 Belafon

He could call a two week session just for this bill. Then, one person would have to filibuster for two weeks.

Clearly we need a to get Senator Davis on a Dialsis Machine and an IV drip.

255 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:14:20pm

Paul’s hours long rambling session got all sorts of coverage and had the news folks creaming their pants about a real filibuster taking place.

Now? They can’t be bothered to comment on a filibuster concerning a topic that is actually of serious interest to people who don’t habitually wear tin-foil on their heads.

256 jaunte  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:14:27pm

“We’re just gonna use the Dewhurst rulebook.”

257 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:14:47pm

re: #238 Varek Raith

Qapla’!

Today is a good day to filibuster!

258 Belafon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:14:58pm

re: #252 Interesting Times

Just so you know, that’s over a year old.

259 celticdragon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:15:13pm

re: #252 Interesting Times

Another lovely member of the GOP base:

Malkin will be claiming it is a liberal false flag attack in 5..4..3..2..

260 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:15:31pm

re: #256 jaunte

“We’re just gonna use the Dewhurst rulebook.”

And the one rule is I beat you with the book till you shut up.

261 Interesting Times  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:15:33pm

re: #252 Interesting Times

Yikes, this actually makes it worse - the story the tweet links to is from March 2012 - if she was the target of violence back then, can you even imagine what will happen now? o_O

262 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:15:35pm

re: #252 Interesting Times

Another lovely member of the GOP base:

This is from last year. But yikes nonetheless.

263 dragonath  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:15:50pm

You know, with all the people watching the youtube feed, CNN doesn’t know good ratings when it sees it.

264 darthstar  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:16:18pm

Cocksuckers are going to shut it down with 45 minutes left…motherfuckers.

265 Kragar  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:16:26pm

re: #256 jaunte

“We’re just gonna use the Dewhurst rulebook.”

What rulebook?

266 freetoken  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:16:33pm

The Texas GOP is bound determine to get this bill passed before midnight. My bet is still on that they’ll get it done in the next 43 minutes.

I do think it’d be overturn in court though.

267 celticdragon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:16:38pm

re: #255 Targetpractice

Paul’s hours long rambling session got all sorts of coverage and had the news folks creaming their pants about a real filibuster taking place.

Now? They can’t be bothered to comment on a filibuster concerning a topic that is actually of serious interest to people who don’t habitually wear tin-foil on their heads.

Democrat wimmins is not real ‘Muricans and we don’t cover not fer real ‘Muricans!

268 celticdragon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:17:33pm

What is this asshole whining about? The worst night of his life?

269 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:17:41pm

Barbara Jordan, Ann Richards and Molly Ivans sending wrath upon the RWNJs of the TX leg.

270 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:18:11pm

Ivins. Can’t type when I’m on my second glass.

271 dragonath  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:18:16pm

…

272 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:18:32pm

re: #266 freetoken

The Texas GOP is bound determine to get this bill passed before midnight. My bet is still on that they’ll get it done in the next 43 minutes.

Rick Perry’s office is already threatening to call a second session if the bill doesn’t get passed. You know, because abortion is the most important issue facing Texas today.

Assholes, all of them.

273 celticdragon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:18:50pm

Bringing up “Shades of Gray” in this context is probably not the best thing…

274 Gus  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:18:54pm

re: #268 celticdragon

What is this asshole whining about? The worst night of his life?

The one now?

275 Gus  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:19:07pm

He’s a Democrat.

276 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:19:23pm

re: #268 celticdragon

What is this asshole whining about? The worst night of his life?

Yeah how dare Wendy Davis ruin his poor night. He’s got a right wing agenda to take care of. I mean forget the constituion and rule of law, some right wing loser is upset because Senator Davis doesn’t like his party and ideology’s bullshit. Sympathy level zip.

277 jaunte  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:19:34pm

re: #268 celticdragon

What is this asshole whining about? The worst night of his life?

watson.senate.state.tx.us

278 bratwurst  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:19:47pm

re: #268 celticdragon

The worst night of his life?

I don’t think I am going out on a limb to suggest that this, the worst night of this guy’s life, pales in comparison to the night a woman gets raped and impregnated.

EDIT: Easy to misjudge this guy, but I am starting to realize he is on the right side of this.

279 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:19:53pm

re: #266 freetoken

The Texas GOP is bound determine to get this bill passed before midnight. My bet is still on that they’ll get it done in the next 43 minutes.

I do think it’d be overturn in court though.

At least till our current Supreme Court get their hands on it and decides that apparently Roe was fine for its day but is not needed anymore…

(I lack an emoticon to suggest violent rage any suggestions?)

280 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:20:11pm

re: #272 Lidane

Rick Perry’s office is already threatening to call a second session if the bill doesn’t get passed. You know, because abortion is the most important issue facing Texas today.

Assholes, all of them.

It’s not a threat so much as a guarantee. If anybody wanted a good look at why this man was not cut out for the Big Show, you’ll never find a better example than tonight.

281 Interesting Times  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:21:05pm

Then why don’t you force GOPers to do it?!

282 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:21:12pm

re: #279 jamesfirecat

At least till our current Supreme Court get their hands on it and decides that apparently Roe was fine for its day but is not needed anymore…

Yes, Roe needs to be either strengthened or something new in its place. Unfortunately I don’t see it happening anytime soon with the mad four on the bench.

283 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:21:40pm

re: #281 Interesting Times

Then why don’t you force GOPers to do it?!

Because shut up.

284 celticdragon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:21:55pm

re: #272 Lidane

Rick Perry’s office is already threatening to call a second session if the bill doesn’t get passed. You know, because abortion is the most important issue facing Texas today.

Assholes, all of them.

Right up there with making sure that ammonium nitrate fertilizer plants don’t get inspected for decades…

285 Belafon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:22:07pm

Perry can call special sessions until the next legislative session, in 2015, if he wants. He even gets to dictate what they are for.

286 The Mountain That Blogs  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:22:59pm

CNN has Piers Morgan talking to Joel Osteen about Nik Wallenda and referring to it as an exclusive. This is embarrassing.

287 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:23:06pm

re: #283 Varek Raith

Because shut up.

Because then the GOP might force democrats to so it at some point down the line and that makes Harry Ried sad panda…

(Wendy Davis has so much more in the way of Ovarian Fortitude than Ried….)

288 Gus  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:23:28pm

Kirk Watson (born March 18, 1958) is a Texas attorney and Democratic politician from Austin. He served as Austin mayor from 1997 to 2001. He ran unsuccessfully for Texas Attorney General in the 2002 election, defeated by the Republican Greg Abbott. In 2006, Watson was elected to the Texas State Senate from District 14.

Watson is the husband of Liz (Elizabeth Anne McDaniel) and father of Preston McDaniel and Cooper Kyle Watson.

289 jaunte  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:23:32pm

Watson explaining the definition of “germane.”

290 Gus  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:23:36pm

en.wikipedia.org

291 Gus  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:24:00pm

re: #289 jaunte

Watson explaining the definition of “germane.”

He’s speaking for the defense. ;)

292 bratwurst  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:24:13pm
293 celticdragon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:24:26pm

re: #285 Belafon

Perry can call special sessions until the next legislative session, in 2015, if he wants. He even gets to dictate what they are for.

I guess that goes long with shitcanning investigative judicial panels that were looking into whether the state mistakenly executed a guy named Willingham for a fire that he probably never set at all…

294 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:24:43pm

re: #284 celticdragon

Right up there with making sure that ammonium nitrate fertilizer plants don’t get inspected for decades…

Inspecting and monitoring fertilizer plants = ZOMG BIG GUBMINT OVERREACH AND SOSHULIZM

Inspecting and monitoring a woman’s body = FREEDOM

295 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:24:52pm

re: #292 bratwurst

Lol.

296 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:25:25pm

re: #286 The Mountain That Blogs

Nik Wallenda is a fundie nutjob.

297 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:25:34pm

re: #294 Lidane

Inspecting and monitoring fertilizer plants = ZOMG BIG GUBMINT OVERREACH AND SOSHULIZM

Inspecting and monitoring a woman’s body = FREEDOM

Varek=:/

298 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:26:06pm

re: #289 jaunte

Watson explaining the definition of “germane.”

Are you saying he comes from Duechland?

299 Belafon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:26:18pm

re: #293 celticdragon

Yep, pretty much.

300 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:26:31pm

re: #298 jamesfirecat

Are you saying he comes from Duechland?

Ja.

301 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:26:47pm

re: #285 Belafon

Perry can call special sessions until the next legislative session, in 2015, if he wants. He even gets to dictate what they are for.

Hence why I called it a Kobayashi Maru. The Texas GOP will force this bill, one way or another, so this filibuster is inspiring but ultimately futile. Likewise the possibility of it resonating with voters all the way to ‘14 is at best questionable. If voters have demonstrated anything over the years, it’s that what experts believe are defining moments often get forgotten by the time Election Day rolls around.

302 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:26:56pm

Watson is a lawyer; he can talk forever….

303 The Mountain That Blogs  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:27:59pm

re: #296 Justanotherhuman

Nik Wallenda is a fundie nutjob.

Agreed. But hey, I watched the highwire thing and thought it was pretty cool. But there is real news going on now, at wacky hours where 24-hour cable news is uniquely positioned to cover it well. And there are over 100,000 people watching on youtube because no one else is covering it.

304 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:28:25pm

re: #301 Targetpractice

Hence why I called it a Kobayashi Maru. The Texas GOP will force this bill, one way or another, so this filibuster is inspiring but ultimately futile. Likewise the possibility of it resonating with voters all the way to ‘14 is at best questionable. If voters have demonstrated anything over the years, it’s that what experts believe are defining moments often get forgotten by the time Election Day rolls around.

The thing is that the Kobayashi Maru they show up they kill you, you loose, this can at least be like the Klingon version of it, Democrats can go down swinging and fight with honor and royally piss off the GOP and take part in something that history will not soon forget even if some people do.

305 celticdragon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:28:36pm

I gotta say at this point with the slew of gobsmacking SCOTUS decisions this week, I am not upbeat on DOMA and Prop 8 probabilities tomorrow…

306 dragonath  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:29:33pm

re: #296 Justanotherhuman

Nik Wallenda is a fundie nutjob.

That’s why he said “Jesus” so much on that rope, huh?

307 celticdragon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:29:58pm

This guy really is doing a decent job of throwing concrete highway dividers in the middle of the legislative road…

308 makeitstop  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:30:15pm

re: #296 Justanotherhuman

Nik Wallenda is a fundie nutjob.

Yeah, we turned on the wire walk the other night, and after about 15 seconds of Wallenda thanking and praising Jesus i had to turn it back off again.

309 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:30:15pm

re: #303 The Mountain That Blogs

Yes, it was a feat. And, point taken.

310 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:30:38pm

re: #305 celticdragon

I gotta say at this point with the slew of gobsmacking SCOTUS decisions this week, I am not upbeat on DOMA and Prop 8 probabilities tomorrow…

My prediction now for tomorrow is Prop 8 getting punted back down to the lower court on jurisdictional grounds and DOMA getting upheld on some flimsy constitutional grounds for the purpose of allowing SCOTUS to avoid “legislating from the bench.”

311 jaunte  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:30:50pm
After conducting a survey among a representative sample of state residents between June 17 and 19, the polling firm Greenberg Quinlan Rosner (GQR) found that 63 percent of registered voters think the Lone Star State already has enough anti-abortion laws on the books. Seventy one percent think the legislature should be more focused on the economy and jobs instead of social policies to police women’s reproductive rights.
thinkprogress.org
312 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:31:05pm

re: #308 makeitstop

Yeah, we turned on the wire walk the other night, and after about 15 seconds of Wallenda thanking and praising Jesus i had to turn it back off again.

Hell, we all knew he was crazy before he got on the wire.
;)

313 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:31:23pm

re: #304 jamesfirecat

The thing is that the Kobayashi Maru they show up they kill you, you loose, this can at least be like the Klingon version of it, Democrats can go down swinging and fight with honor and royally piss off the GOP and take part in something that history will not soon forget even if some people do.

That’s pretty much what I expect, that the only “win” of today will be that the GOP forced Perry to call a special session just to ram this bill through.

314 dragonath  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:31:41pm

125k watchers is pretty swell for the middle of the night on a Wednesday.

315 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:32:11pm
316 klys and whatnot  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:32:14pm

The cats are VERY EXCITED about this drink thing.

I told him that if he shares any of it with the cats, that is immediate grounds for divorce. And possibly justifiable homicide.

317 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:32:51pm

re: #307 celticdragon

This guy really is doing a decent job of throwing concrete highway dividers in the middle of the legislative road…

Kirk Watson was the mayor when I first moved to Austin. I like the guy. He’s smart as hell and can argue circles around people.

318 celticdragon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:32:54pm

re: #310 Targetpractice

My prediction now for tomorrow is Prop 8 getting punted back down to the lower court on jurisdictional grounds and DOMA getting upheld on some flimsy constitutional grounds for the purpose of allowing SCOTUS to avoid “legislating from the bench.”

If they punt prop 8 on standing grounds, then the 9th Court ruling stands.

319 Belafon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:33:57pm

re: #310 Targetpractice

They gave up on not legislating from the bench with today’s decision.

320 Gus  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:34:10pm

@KirkPWatson

321 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:34:17pm
322 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:34:49pm

Rebranding!

323 Gus  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:35:15pm

This guy is really very good.

324 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:35:39pm

re: #321 Charles Johnson

Haha, let’s see them arrest all those people—as the speaker said earlier in the day, people in the galllery can be arrested if they are “out of order”.

325 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:35:42pm

re: #323 Gus

This guy is really very good.

Grrr…
Why do I have no sound?
I blame KT.

326 Interesting Times  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:35:46pm
327 klys and whatnot  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:36:09pm

re: #318 celticdragon

If they punt prop 8 on standing grounds, then the 9th Court ruling stands.

Which is mostly the only good thing that could come out of that mess.

328 celticdragon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:36:24pm

re: #319 Belafon

They gave up on not legislating from the bench with today’s decision.

That voting rights bill is workin’ so good…hell, we might as well get rid of it and see if the rednecks can pull off intelligence tests and start asking black folks “How many bubbles are in a bar of soap?”…

Just like in the old days!

329 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:37:03pm

She’s still standing:


Awesome.

330 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:37:58pm

re: #319 Belafon

They gave up on not legislating from the bench with today’s decision.

Their entire bit during the oral arguments earlier this year was arguing that SCOTUS just doesn’t have the authority to rule on DOMA, that they want to find some way to “let the states decide.”

331 celticdragon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:38:27pm

Roll call?

332 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:38:29pm

They don’t even realize the shit storm they are about to walk in to, do they?

333 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:38:29pm

Wendy Davis—tough. Wendy Davis: Single Mom at 19 living in a trailer park—>community college—>TCU—>Harvard Law School—>Bad Ass Senator

Looks like this woman know how to grow and learn.

334 Interesting Times  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:39:24pm
335 celticdragon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:39:25pm

re: #330 Targetpractice

Their entire bit during the oral arguments earlier this year was arguing that SCOTUS just doesn’t have the authority to rule on DOMA, that they want to find some way to “let the states decide.”

Kinda like states calling human beings “3/5’s” of a person.

336 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:39:27pm

re: #318 celticdragon

If they punt prop 8 on standing grounds, then the 9th Court ruling stands.

What was the 9th court’s ruiling again?

337 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:39:41pm

re: #333 Justanotherhuman

Wendy Davis—tough. Wendy Davis: Single Mom at 19 living in a trailer park—>community college—>TCU—>Harvard Law School—>Bad Ass Senator

Looks like this woman know how to grow and learn.

I saw that earlier. What a story. Note to wingnuts, this is making something of yourself not being like Mitt Romney and just coasting by on Dad’s name and fortune.

338 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:39:53pm

re: #334 Interesting Times

EPA.
NEXT!

339 klys and whatnot  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:39:58pm

re: #336 jamesfirecat

What was the 9th court’s ruiling again?

Prop 8 is unconstitutional.

340 celticdragon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:40:12pm

Motion to adjourn…

341 jaunte  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:40:18pm

Dewhurst, you lying sack.

342 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:40:20pm

re: #332 Varek Raith

They don’t even realize the shit storm they are about to walk in to, do they?

Two weeks from now, Justin Bieber will say something stupid and this will all be a distant, hazy memory.

343 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:40:32pm

re: #334 Interesting Times

Oops.

344 celticdragon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:40:45pm

re: #336 jamesfirecat

What was the 9th court’s ruiling again?

Upheld the trial court over ruling Prop 8.

345 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:40:49pm

re: #342 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Two weeks from now, Justin Bieber will say something stupid and this will all be a distant, hazy memory.

In the media, sure.

346 celticdragon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:40:57pm

Crowd getting angry.

347 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:42:19pm

re: #345 Varek Raith

In the media, sure.

or they’ll ask Justin Bieber what he thinks of this.

348 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:42:30pm

re: #345 Varek Raith

In the media, sure.

Hell, they didn’t even cover this…

349 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:43:18pm

WTF? They’re calling the roll?

350 celticdragon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:44:01pm

How much longer do they have? Is it one hour and a quarter or 15 minutes?

351 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:44:07pm

Breaking rules, IOKIYAAR.

352 dragonath  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:44:22pm

Wow, some of the forums I’m watching are going NUTS

353 blueraven  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:45:02pm

re: #350 celticdragon

How much longer do they have? Is it one hour and a quarter or 15 minutes?

15 minutes

354 Gus  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:45:34pm

Boom!

355 Gus  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:45:42pm

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!

356 Denji  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:46:00pm

15 minutes of cheering please

357 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:46:09pm

“At what point must a female Senator raise her voice enough to be heard over her male colleagues in the room?” BAM!

358 dragonath  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:46:18pm

They cut the mikes?!!

359 freetoken  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:46:18pm

re: #355 Gus

ANARCHY!!

360 Gus  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:46:19pm
361 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:46:24pm

re: #350 celticdragon

15 min.

362 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:47:29pm

re: #359 freetoken

Jesus, beyond the pale.

363 RadicalModerate  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:48:13pm

Banana republic dictatorships have nothing on the Texas Legislature.

364 dragonath  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:48:49pm

Rebranding, people!

365 Tigger2  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:49:54pm

I have no respect for Republicans anymore. none.

366 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:50:04pm

Say goodbye to these GOP (women voters) Good luck being an old white sausage fest.

367 gwangung  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:50:18pm

re: #358 dragonath

They cut the mikes?!!

Hey….just copying the Republicans in Washington, DC.

368 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:50:39pm

REMAIN CALM, ALL IS WELL!

369 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:51:03pm

Do they think this shit is going to endear them to women voters? Really?

370 celticdragon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:51:29pm

what just happened?

371 dragonath  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:51:32pm

150k

372 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:51:52pm

Fucking morons.
I need coffee.

373 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:52:35pm
374 simoom  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:52:47pm
375 jaunte  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:53:01pm
376 freetoken  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:54:27pm

If CNN doesn’t cover it, did it really happen?

377 celticdragon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:54:40pm

So the gop said “fuck it” and started the vote…

378 Gus  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:55:15pm

Twitter is being chocked. Or something.

379 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:55:19pm

re: #372 Varek Raith

I need more wine. This is a celebration! Wendy Davis for President!

380 Interesting Times  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:56:05pm
381 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:56:09pm
382 simoom  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:56:16pm

They’re attempting to empty the galleries:

383 blueraven  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:56:16pm

I have no doubt Perry will announce a new special session tomorrow…but the people of TX have spoken.

384 dragonath  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:56:51pm

Has this ever happened in the Texas Legislature before? This really seems unprecedented.

385 gwangung  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:57:11pm

re: #383 blueraven

I have no doubt Perry will announce a new special session tomorrow…but the people of TX have spoken.

And Republicans will say “Fuck that” and do what they damn please.

386 freetoken  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:57:15pm

re: #383 blueraven

I have no doubt Perry will announce a new special session tomorrow…but the people of TX have spoken.

Nah, just a few thousand Godless heathen raging, nothing a good Godly man like Perry can’t handle.

387 celticdragon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:57:27pm

they have pretty much run out then, and no way in hell they can clear the gallery in 4 minutes.

388 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:57:38pm

re: #380 Interesting Times

or the priests that helped the Nazis during WWII. Yep how terrible it is that Nancy Pelosi supports a woman’s right to choose.

389 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:57:39pm
390 Gus  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:57:45pm

Bazoing!

391 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:58:06pm

What in the hell is this.
Wow…

392 Interesting Times  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:58:16pm

re: #381 Lidane

393 freetoken  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:58:17pm

I imagine that Perry will be sure next time to have the state police surrounding the hall to keep out the rabble.

394 Tigger2  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:58:54pm

The Teapublicans are making a joke of our democracy.

395 celticdragon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:58:56pm

re: #391 Varek Raith

What in the hell is this.
Wow…

This is what democracy looks like, thank God!

396 dragonath  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:59:17pm

re: #393 freetoken

I imagine that Perry will be sure next time to have the state police surrounding the hall to keep out the rabble.

Maybe they’ll invite the FRC. Drop the mask all the way.

397 Interesting Times  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:59:19pm

re: #393 freetoken

I imagine that Perry will be sure next time to have the state police surrounding the hall to keep out the rabble.

The session will be held in a secret underground bunker.

398 freetoken  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:59:30pm

re: #395 celticdragon

This is what democracy looks like, thank God!

Technically, no, it’s anarchy.

399 celticdragon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 9:59:55pm

ONE MINUTE LEFT…

400 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:00:06pm
401 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:00:19pm

re: #383 blueraven

And they’ll be back when it happens. You bet.

402 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:00:23pm

Bwahahahahaha!

403 celticdragon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:00:24pm

re: #398 freetoken

Technically, no, it’s anarchy.

The people are trying to take their government back.

404 dragonath  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:00:30pm

re: #398 freetoken

The shitty parliamentarian didn’t help.

405 Belafon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:00:38pm

re: #398 freetoken

Are we watering trees yet? I’m so confused.

406 The Mountain That Blogs  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:00:39pm

So now what happens?

407 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:00:50pm

re: #393 freetoken

I imagine that Perry will be sure next time to have the state police surrounding the hall to keep out the rabble.

Nah, next time they’ll do it in the time-honored Republican fashion: Tack it to an unrelated bill as a rider, then pass it first thing in the morning.

408 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:00:51pm

It’s over!

409 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:01:05pm
410 freetoken  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:01:11pm

re: #408 Justanotherhuman

It’s over!

It’s just begun.

411 Gus  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:01:19pm

GOP might have extended time.

412 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:01:22pm

re: #404 dragonath

Sure she did. By being shitty.

413 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:01:26pm

re: #406 The Mountain That Blogs

So now what happens?

Perry calls special session tomorrow and keeps calling them until GOP gets the bill passed.

414 RadicalModerate  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:01:28pm

Did they just pass the bill without a proper roll call vote?

415 klys and whatnot  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:01:41pm

re: #398 freetoken

Technically, no, it’s anarchy.

No, democracy overriding the republic.

416 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:01:43pm

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

417 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:01:55pm

re: #410 freetoken

I meant tonight. Don’t worry, people will be back—more of them.

418 celticdragon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:02:03pm

re: #411 Gus

GOP might have extended time.

I don’t think they can.

419 Gus  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:02:12pm

They’re voting.

420 freetoken  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:02:15pm

Looks like they are taking the vote down at the podium.

421 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:02:41pm

re: #395 celticdragon

This is what democracy looks like, thank God!

The voice of the people will be heard!

422 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:03:00pm

Wheee.
Who needs all this rule shit.
Fuck it.
Fuck democracy.
-Texas.

423 jaunte  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:05:37pm

Adjournment sine die
en.wikipedia.org

424 Gus  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:05:41pm

More waiting.

425 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:05:44pm

Voting after midnight?

426 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:06:16pm
427 celticdragon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:06:19pm

I have no clue what they up to

428 Tigger2  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:06:53pm

None of my vacation money will ever go to one of these neanderthal states again I will spend it in blue states.

Sorry if that offends anyone but the only thing Republicans understand is money or the loss of it.

429 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:06:53pm

re: #425 Dancing along the light of day

Voting after midnight?

Fuck that. It’s after midnight. Session’s over.

I guess now they’ve decided that time is no longer germane. Assholes.

430 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:06:56pm

Congrats, GOP, you are fucking idiots.

431 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:07:02pm

The GOP who used to be Great at Optics, have designed the perfect shit sandwhich tonight in the Texas Senate.

They are letting us know that when you vote GOP, you get the whole package.

432 freetoken  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:07:03pm

re: #427 celticdragon

I have no clue what they up to

Don’t worry, neither do they.

433 RadicalModerate  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:07:10pm

re: #422 Varek Raith

Wheee.
Who needs all this rule shit.
Fuck it.
Fuck democracy.
-Texas.

On the heels of today’s Supreme Court ruling, they’ve already stated that they will be going forward with disenfranchising minority voters by re-approving previously struck-down Congressional districting lines, as well as implementing Voter ID - and this is just the beginning for them.

434 jaunte  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:07:14pm

twitter.com

435 Belafon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:07:41pm

This is Texas. Our Republican legislature learned that they don’t actually have to follow the constitution back when the redistricted outside of the normal 10 year cycle.

436 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:08:28pm

re: #429 Lidane

Fuck that. It’s after midnight. Session’s over.

I guess now they’ve decided that time is no longer germane. Assholes.

Space is wrapped and time is bendable.

437 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:09:31pm

re: #436 jamesfirecat

Space is wrapped and time is bendable.

Wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey.

438 jaunte  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:09:40pm

What does the Parliament Whisperer say?

439 ProTARDISLiberal  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:09:49pm

re: #436 jamesfirecat

Not supposing we could put the Texas Legislature and Rick Perry in a Time-Lock, could we?

440 Kragar  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:09:54pm

re: #436 jamesfirecat

Space is wrapped and time is bendable.

And Texan Republicans are rock stupid shitheads.

441 celticdragon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:09:58pm

re: #436 jamesfirecat

Space is wrapped and time is bendable.

Especially if you are Zaphod Beeblebrox and you stole the Heart of Gold.

442 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:10:07pm
443 Targetpractice  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:10:53pm

Hell, let’s just cut to the chase and have Texas Senate GOP say that the rules do not apply to them, the session continues long enough to pass this bill, and the filibuster is over.

Some of us have to work tomorrow.

444 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:11:06pm

So…
We need a stronger word for ‘blatant’

445 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:11:14pm
446 Interesting Times  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:11:37pm

re: #436 jamesfirecat

Space is wrapped and time is bendable.

447 dragonath  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:12:11pm

Goddam

448 gunnison  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:12:14pm

Jesus, I lived in Texas for 25 years, 20 years ago now, and it was fucking crazy then.
But this is something else. The GOP is now locked into rendering itself unable to participate in US politics in any capacity except mean-spirited logjamming obstructionist bullshit.
They’re so completely colonized by theocrats and crazy people throughout their entire party apparatus that they just can’t stop this crap now even though many of the politically savvy heavy hitters in the party clearly see how badly this hurts them.
I swear to god I don’t see how they can possibly not end up in some kind of schism at some point. Sooner the better for my money, but this is just insane. These people are not complete human beings.

449 celticdragon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:12:32pm

re: #439 ProTARDISLiberal

Not supposing we could put the Texas Legislature and Rick Perry in a Time-Lock, could we?

stick ‘em in a bobble.

450 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:12:39pm

A woman who can stand up for women the way Wendy Davis did deserves to be President.

451 teleskiguy  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:13:02pm

The 20 minutes before midnight was riveting stuff! I’m glad people in Texas are taking a stand against these misogynists. I took to Twitter too, and I apologize again for salty language.

452 dragonath  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:13:25pm
453 Kragar  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:13:31pm

So the same group which wants to make rules to control women don’t want rules to control their legislature?

Fuck you Texas.

454 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:14:08pm

Small government my fucking ass.

455 Tigger2  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:14:12pm

It’s a shame the once proud GOP has turned into the know nothing party again.

456 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:14:31pm

Conservatives must be so fucking proud.
I’m going to make coffee and blow up a planet or two…. dozen.

457 celticdragon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:15:20pm

Sooo…if the vote was illegal will it be challenged in court?

458 klys and whatnot  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:15:22pm

Back to my happy world of Ni no Kuni.

Because fuck it.

459 Gus  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:15:55pm
460 Interesting Times  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:16:30pm
461 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:16:33pm

re: #459 Gus

Lousy Smarch wheather.

462 simoom  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:16:36pm
463 Nemesis6  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:16:36pm

Because we’re all thinking it…

464 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:16:43pm

I’m just flabbergasted.
I shouldn’t be, but I am.

465 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:16:43pm
466 Gus  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:17:51pm
467 celticdragon  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:18:37pm

re: #462 simoom

Hate to say it, but we might see some LE abuse of the protestors tonight.

468 blueraven  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:18:48pm

re: #463 Nemesis6

Because we’re all thinking it…

Actually no, I am proud to be a Texan tonight.

469 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:18:51pm

Senate chairman needs filibuster rules of law explained to him—by a woman.

Image: original.jpg

470 ProTARDISLiberal  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:19:02pm

re: #465 Lidane

Oh, this is the biggest case of vote fraud in a while.

They broke rules of time.

471 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:19:38pm

re: #470 ProTARDISLiberal

Oh, this is the biggest case of vote fraud in a while.

They broke rules of time.

Where’s the Doctor when you need him…

472 dragonath  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:20:00pm

re: #463 Nemesis6

Because we’re all thinking it…

We’ve seen the good in Texas, too.

473 Lidane  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:20:29pm
474 simoom  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:21:02pm

Vine of three levels of the rotunda lined. Can click the to enable the chanting audio.

vine.co

475 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:22:25pm

re: #467 celticdragon

Hate to say it, but we might see some LE abuse of the protestors tonight.

LE?

476 Varek Raith  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:22:52pm

re: #475 jamesfirecat

LE?

Law enforcement.

477 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jun 25, 2013 10:35:45pm

Wendy Davis: “Lawmakers, either get out of the vagina business or go to medical school.” Image: original.jpg

478 chadu  Wed, Jun 26, 2013 8:38:12am

re: #53 jamesfirecat

All the updings for Leverage reference!


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