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1 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 1:15:17pm

No, that would be taking you seriously on any political issue, Ms. Cupp. Really, you can disagree with Wendy Davis all you want but to call applauding her “shockingly pathetically low” is well frankly shockingly pathetically low.

2 Skip Intro  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:19:04pm

Are people really going to watch that grinning half-wit Newt Gingrich babble on about anything?

3 Randall Gross  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:30:03pm

S. E. Cupp is a faketheist - a liar for the Socon Jesus pretending to be an atheist.

4 wrenchwench  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:32:16pm

Gah. This is a great example of why I have no desire to re-TV my household.

5 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 2:46:20pm
S.E. Cupp is going to be a regular panelist on CNN’s revival of Crossfire

I see Pat Robertson’s G-d is already smiting us for the SCOTUS decisions.

6 CMReaK  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:19:01pm

Just thinking about this show makes my head hurt. Van Jones, why? Why are you doing this? You deserve better.

7 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:23:40pm

re: #4 wrenchwench

Gah. This is a great example of why I have no desire to re-TV my household.

Inorite? It’s amazingly horrific.

8 freetoken  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:24:44pm

re: #4 wrenchwench

Gah. This is a great example of why I have no desire to re-TV my household.

Something of which I’m pridefully proud is that I’ve not owned a “TV” in over 10 years now.

9 DO WINGNUT WORDS SHOW THEY EVOLVED BRAINS?11!!  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:24:49pm

re: #3 Randall Gross

Yep.

10 engineer cat  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:25:13pm

re: #2 Skip Intro

Are people really going to watch that grinning half-wit Newt Gingrich babble on about anything?

he’s a sententious blancmange

11 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:25:40pm

re: #8 freetoken

Something of which I’m pridefully proud is that I’ve not owned a “TV” in over 10 years now.

TV? That’s the thing that connects to the game console, right?

12 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:27:19pm

Watch Newt Gingrich’s face as S.E. Cupp speaks. Nightmarish.

13 freetoken  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:27:51pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Is Newt suffering from constipation again?

14 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:31:39pm

Shockingly pathetic: Cupp having a career with this schtick.

15 Shockingly, Pathetically Low  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:31:56pm

I keep the TV around in case of an emergency. It’s been weeks since I turned it on except to play a DVD.

16 freetoken  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:32:44pm

What a tired old panel. Van Jones is ok, but the Newt and Culp are well past shelf life.

17 Mickey_being_mickey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:36:27pm

re: #3 Randall Gross

Calling her an atheist is like calling David Burton a historian. Does. Not. Compute.

18 Weet  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:36:40pm

Quick facts about SB5:

The original author: Glenn Hegar
The legislative history: Shows sponsors and coauthors too
Quick summary: EZ Summary
The bill itself: SB5 — The bill

19 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:37:36pm

re: #17 Mickey_being_mickey

Calling her an atheist is like calling David Burton a historian. Does. Not. Compute.

Barton, not Burton.

20 Mickey_being_mickey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:39:55pm

re: #19 Kragar

Ugh autocorrect fail.

21 darthstar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:42:14pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Watch Newt Gingrich’s face as S.E. Cupp speaks. Nightmarish.

Wife #5, he’s thinking.

22 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:44:05pm

re: #21 darthstar

Wife #5, he’s thinking.

Brain bleach, PLEASE! (shudder)

23 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:44:43pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Watch Newt Gingrich’s face as S.E. Cupp speaks. Nightmarish.

Can’t bring myself to listen to Newt long enough to see him react to her, and it’s not like I enjoy listening to her blather, either.

re: #3 Randall Gross

S. E. Cupp is a faketheist - a liar for the Socon Jesus pretending to be an atheist.

Yup. I used to think she was a self-loathing atheist, since she claims to be atheist but then says she feels bad that she doesn’t believe, but ‘faketheist’ is probably more accurate.

24 freetoken  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:45:02pm

All 4 of those people are desperate to keep their names before the public.

CNN does not on average draw many viewers. During big events it does draw the extra viewer, but the US version shown on American cable is not a very big audience, on average.

While cable overall ad revenues went up a little bit:

Broadcast TV Declines Partly Because of Prime-Time Ratings Erosion

this is still an industry with more players than can be maintained by ad revenue, in the long run. More and more people are using on-demand internet-based sources for information and entertainment, as the broadcasters are well aware.

25 freetoken  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:45:32pm

I find more entertaining - today’s physics lesson:

Youtube Video

26 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:50:22pm

Watching clips of Rachel Jeantel’s testimony and the part where West is badgering her abut reading a letter and makes her admit that she “can’t read cursive”.

As someone who had actual penmanship classes every single year throughout grade school back in the late 50s & early 60s, and as someone whose handwriting is mistaken for a computer calligraphy font, I am really not surprised that Rachel can’t read cursive…especially considering the fact that most children aren’t even taught cursive anymore because it’s considered a “dying script”.
I’m stunned that not a single one of my grandchildren (some in their teens and early 20s) can’t read or write in cursive. And their block print writing is every bit as bad as their computer text spelling and grammar skills.

27 freetoken  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:53:57pm

re: #26 Backwoods_Sleuth

In working on genealogy I’ve been pushing through cursive writing that is over 200 years old in some cases, and much of it is indeed labor to read. The quality of penmanship varied greatly.

A few weeks ago I linked to a discussion over whether cursive writing ought to stay in the curriculum of grade schoolers. The response was mixed.

Still, I don’t like seeing people being made fun of just because they have a hard time reading. Literacy was not widespread until the later part of the 19th century in this country.

28 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 3:59:52pm

re: #26 Backwoods_Sleuth

Watching clips of Rachel Jeantel’s testimony and the part where West is badgering her abut reading a letter and makes her admit that she “can’t read cursive”.

As someone who had actual penmanship classes every single year throughout grade school back in the late 50s & early 60s, and as someone whose handwriting is mistaken for a computer calligraphy font, I am really not surprised that Rachel can’t read cursive…especially considering the fact that most children aren’t even taught cursive anymore because it’s considered a “dying script”.
I’m stunned that not a single one of my grandchildren (some in their teens and early 20s) can’t read or write in cursive. And their block print writing is every bit as bad as their computer text spelling and grammar skills.

I think the important point is that she didn’t write the letter, she couldn’t even read it. Did they ever establish who wrote the letter? Did she dictate it or was it just written by someone else.
IIRC she couldn’t read her statement in the police report yesterday which I assume was typewritten. I think her reading and writing skills might qualify as illiterate. I feel really bad for her, it’s a shame we have 12th graders in this country who can’t read. She’s going to have a very tough time finding employment as an adult.

29 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:00:17pm

re: #27 freetoken

Still, I don’t like seeing people being made fun of just because they have a hard time reading. Literacy was not widespread until the later part of the 19th century in this country.

Agreed…and when it comes to handwriting, literacy and readable/legible handwriting do not go necessarily hand in hand.

30 freetoken  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:00:45pm
31 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:02:46pm

Check out these comments about the DOMA decision:

Well this really is not my cup of coffee but I do have grandchildren that see this picture/article along with alternative lifestyles shows on TV so based on this I feel obligated to join the conversation. When I saw the one man propose to the other man on the steps of the US Supreme Court Building in Washington I thought to myself my how our country has changed since I was a young adult. Is it for the better? The two men holding hands and smiling at the camera think so . I guess the future will tell us if this was part of the total breakdown of our society as we new it 50 years ago which I agree is a long time ago. I am concerned for my grand kids and what the future will be like for them. For myself I am sad that the lifestyle we once knew and the comfort levels of a normal God fearing society are now almost gone. Sort of reminds me of the history of the mighty Roman Empire that followed a similar path.
….

Mississippi cannot afford to Pay the average price of 300,000 dollars each , to treat aids victims . 40,000,000 world-wide are infected or dead with that wonderful disease, carried by majority homosexuals and bi-homosexuals . and then passed on to innocent victims . keep it in Liberal Land where it belongs .
….

Keep your oddities to yourself . Last thing my kids need is liberal homosexual indoctrination.
If you feel the urge to brag about your deviancy problems . Then head to the perversion capitals of the world . Liberal infested , San francisco or new York .

I guess the next target of the left will be to legalize pedophilia! After all, they too are “Born that Way”!!!

….
Congress, SCOTUS, White House, pop culture, and the Three Monkey Media cannot violate, or even ignore God’s laws of human behavior with impunity. 110,000,000 contemporary cases of STDs make the point that the sexual revolution of the 1960s was not only immoral, but the seed of a health disaster.

What has this country become? Next thing will be marriage to their pets or son, daughter marriage to mother, father. Way to go America.

….
This is hate speech. You’re comparing the loving, consensual unions of committed adults to what are clearly acts of depravity.

These come not from Fox News or Free Republic as you might suspect, but from the site of my local daily newspaper who featured a story discussing the impact of the SCOTUS decisions on local gay couples.

Gotta love the South.

32 freetoken  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:04:31pm

I’ve read a letter one of my GGGG grandfathers wrote to one of my GGG grandfathers, and it was very difficult. Turns out GGGGgf was not well skilled in writing, with more than enough spelling and grammar mistakes to not make it through 6th grade, much less his penmanship (or lack thereof.)

Yet it’s my only connection to him, and with that I find all of a sudden my GGGG gf’s marginal literacy makes him very endearing to me.

Life was harder back then, and he tried, very hard.

33 freetoken  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:06:28pm

Or as the WaPo puts it more succinctly:

Rachel Jeantel is also on trial at the George Zimmerman trial

34 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:07:28pm

re: #28 Killgore Trout

I feel really bad for her, it’s a shame we have 12th graders in this country who can’t read. She’s going to have a very tough time finding employment as an adult.

Yep…too bad she wasn’t one of those 12th graders who can’t read but still get a full tuition university scholarship, like some who can play really good football or basketball…
oh, and there’s that problem with her hair

35 engineer cat  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:07:47pm

I guess the future will tell us if this was part of the total breakdown of our society as we new it 50 years ago which I agree is a long time ago

yeah waal i remember society as we ‘new’ it 50 years ago and it wudnt so hot

36 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:08:56pm

re: #31 Eclectic Cyborg

Check out these comments about the DOMA decision:

These come not from Fox News or Free Republic as you might suspect, but from the site of my local daily newspaper who featured a story discussing the impact of the SCOTUS decisions on local gay couples.

Gotta love the South.

No, really, I don’t.
//

37 darthstar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:09:47pm

ROFL! The Family Research Council’s marketing department scores another win in their campaign to stop gay marriage.

Image: 1011718_10151743579254804_411531364_n.jpg

On your knees, beyotches!

38 SpaceJesus  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:09:50pm

Senate passes immigration reform.

Freep:

To: NoLibZone

Rather than mock California, had they rallied and helped the nation would have been saved.

Too late now.

US is now a failed state.

2 posted on Thursday, June 27, 2013 3:22:09 PM by NoLibZone (There is only one solution: Secession by the Red states.No need to be in the NYC union.)
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Brown people!

39 Whack-A-Mole  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:09:55pm

Nasty thunderstorms rolling through this part of Wisconsin. They’re calling for quarter sized hail and 60 mph wind gusts. Should be hitting me in just a few minutes. Ugh…now I have to close up all the windows on an 80+ degree day.

40 Kid Hail Satan  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:10:46pm

re: #37 darthstar

ROFL! The Family Research Council’s marketing department scores another win in their campaign to stop gay marriage.

Image: 1011718_10151743579254804_411531364_n.jpg

On your knees, beyotches!

In related news…

41 SpaceJesus  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:11:54pm

There’s just too much winger rage to make a post showcasing it.


freerepublic.com


Freep is even angrier than when Obama was reelected

42 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:11:57pm

re: #37 darthstar

ROFL! The Family Research Council’s marketing department scores another win in their campaign to stop gay marriage.

Image: 1011718_10151743579254804_411531364_n.jpg

On your knees, beyotches!

LOL

43 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:12:19pm

re: #39 Whack-A-Mole

Nasty thunderstorms rolling through this part of Wisconsin. They’re calling for quarter sized hail and 60 mph wind gusts. Should be hitting me in just a few minutes. Ugh…now I have to close up all the windows on an 80+ degree day.

take care…and you can keep the windows open part way.

44 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:13:04pm

re: #40 Kid A

In related news…

I thought Bryan Fischer loved “States rights!”

Oh well, fuck him.

45 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:13:12pm

re: #30 freetoken

The Atlantic puts it succinctly:

My Star Witness Is Black: Rachel Jeantel’s Testimony Makes Trayvon a Show Trial

It seems the Atlantic is taking the position that the defense was being unfair to her. I do feel bad for her being in the spotlight but she was a very poor witness for the prosecution. There were some factual problems with her testimony, most of them minor problems, but I think the fact that she didn’t write the letter is more significant. A lot of people are trying to minimize the “cracker” thing but of course the defense is going to use it to their advantage. If Zimmerman had used the n word in his call (which has already been alleged) you can bet the prosecution would be using that to their advantage.
Also from the Atlantic article….

Her testimony was also littered with interruptions from the court reporter, who was making absolutely sure she understood Jeantel’s mumbled words.

Rachel Jeantel did not fit in with this courtroom where she very much matters.

This is why I feel so bad for her situation. Along with her literacy problems she doesn’t speak well enough to be easily understood. It’s a national shame on our education system. She’s going to have a very tough life.

46 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:13:27pm

re: #39 Whack-A-Mole

Nasty thunderstorms rolling through this part of Wisconsin. They’re calling for quarter sized hail and 60 mph wind gusts. Should be hitting me in just a few minutes. Ugh…now I have to close up all the windows on an 80+ degree day.

THANKS SO FUCKING MUCH, GAY MARRIAGE!

47 Whack-A-Mole  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:13:47pm

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ve got the one right in front of the computer open right now but the way the wind just picked up and I don’t think I’ll be able to keep it open long.

48 freetoken  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:14:06pm

Needless to say, the Faux News fans are loving hating on Jeantel. Not only is Faux headlining her on their website, the story now has over 5000 comments!

Here is a miniscule sample:

bbmiller
3 minutes ago
I just looked up the name Trayvon in the “black ebonic ghetto urban dictionary” and it means …. Skittles Eater finds Lead.

===

gfgwhd
6 minutes ago
Wonder how many food stamps it takes to get that figure. What figure, there aint no telling, I’m guessing 350 lbs

===

sisophous
31 minutes ago
@DanWatching Blacks are the most Racist Group there is, ever wonder about it, just watch this Bimbo witness admit to it.

and so forth.

49 Whack-A-Mole  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:14:21pm

re: #46 Kragar

LMAO

50 SpaceJesus  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:14:58pm
To: Sub-Driver
Wait until the 90% of blacks who voted for the boy in the WH see their job opportunities go to criminal trespassers.

Might they then finally figure out the plantation is no way to live?


47 posted on 6/27/2013 3:44:56 PM by Wurlitzer (Nothing says “ignorance” like Islam! 969)
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51 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:16:28pm

re: #47 Whack-A-Mole

I’ve got the one right in front of the computer open right now but the way the wind just picked up and I don’t think I’ll be able to keep it open long.

close that window and partly open a couple other ones.

52 SpaceJesus  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:17:16pm
To: Sub-Driver
When America falls (which looks sooner rather than later), I hope some of these open-borders traitors are still living, so they can be hunted down like the Israelis hunted down old Nazi war criminals.

May each and every one of these bastards burn in hell.


9 posted on 6/27/2013 3:31:15 PM by greene66
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53 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:17:42pm

re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yep…too bad she wasn’t one of those 12th graders who can’t read but still get a full tuition university scholarship, like some who can play really good football or basketball…
oh, and there’s that problem with her hair

I lived with some of those guys when I went to Arizona state. Very few of them would go on to pro careers. I assume the rest were still unemployable even with the college diploma. It’s gotta be quite a shock because they were all used to being pampered and given special treatment for their athletic ability probably their whole lives. Lots of huge egos.

54 SpaceJesus  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:17:43pm

I’m starting to think freep might have a problem with minorities

55 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:18:20pm

re: #53 Killgore Trout

I lived with some of those guys when I went to Arizona state. Very few of them would go on to pro careers. I assume the rest were still unemployable even with the college diploma. It’s gotta be quite a shock because they were all used to being pampered and given special treatment for their athletic ability probably their whole lives. Lots of huge egos.

yeppers…

56 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:18:41pm

re: #54 SpaceJesus

I’m starting to think freep might have a problem with minorities

In other breaking news, water remains wet, and getting old is usually a bother.

57 wrenchwench  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:18:44pm

re: #28 Killgore Trout

I think her reading and writing skills might qualify as illiterate. I feel really bad for her, it’s a shame we have 12th graders in this country who can’t read. She’s going to have a very tough time finding employment as an adult.

Unless someone, you know, teaches her how to read. Stranger things have happened.

58 Kid Hail Satan  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:18:47pm
59 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:19:39pm

Lubbock has one abortion provider and they perform these services just one day a week. The security guards arrive early, with shotguns in plain sight, followed shortly by the staff and a regular mob of loafers who stand across the street waving signs and screaming abuse at anyone within earshot, including the terrified teenagers who make up the majority of the clients.

I’ve mentioned before that I know one of those security guards. The clinic just closed and I just talked to him. He said the protesters were more aggressive than usual today, despite the 105 degree heat. One of the regular agitators, a fundy preacher who looks remarkably like the young Richard Nixon, ran halfway into the street where he started doing some sort of dance and making weird faces, like a deranged organ grinder’s monkey. Others challenged the guards to come over and fight. There were the usual curses, imprecations, and predictions of anal rape by demons once the “baby killers” arrive in hell. Some of them taunt staff, patients, and guards alike with the names of doctors assassinated by anti-abortion terrorists. The place is arranged to keep patients as far from the mob as possible, and out of sight, but they can still hear the demented cursing and chanting from the devoted Christians across the street.

This kind of insane theater plays out every day at hundreds of clinics around the country, with almost no attention from the media.

60 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:20:13pm

re: #58 Kid A

o.m.g…

REBRANDING!!!11!!

61 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:20:29pm

re: #58 Kid A

That’s unreal, even for state-level GOP knuckledraggers.

62 Kid Hail Satan  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:21:21pm

re: #61 EPR-radar

That’s unreal, even for state-level GOP knuckledraggers.

Actually, it’s not. I live here, remember?

63 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:21:31pm

re: #58 Kid A

I don’t even want to know what the GOP considers “inaccurate intercourse”…

64 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:22:28pm

re: #63 Backwoods_Sleuth

I don’t even want to know what the GOP considers “inaccurate intercourse”…

“Missed it by that much!” - Maxwell Smart

65 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:22:31pm

re: #59 Occam’s Guillotine

The blessings of freedom of expression in action. Meanwhile, under Bush the lesser, we had ‘free speech zones’ that were well away from the patricians whose policies were being protested.

66 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:23:17pm

re: #41 SpaceJesus

There’s just too much winger rage to make a post showcasing it.

freerepublic.com

Freep is even angrier than when Obama was reelected

The first one is worth a quote.

All the idiots that mocked California now shal be shwon that Califronis is just the beta test for the rest of the nation.
E V E R Y T H I N G that occurs ion California wil lbe used in the rest of the nation.

If you can’t write English, get the hell out. /

67 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:25:19pm

re: #66 Occam’s Guillotine

The first one is worth a quote.

“All the idiots that mocked California now shal be shwon that Califronis is just the beta test for the rest of the nation.
“E V E R Y T H I N G that occurs ion California wil lbe used in the rest of the nation.”

If you can’t write English, get the hell out. /

Maek Englush thuh ofishal langwidge uv Amercia!

68 freetoken  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:25:32pm

The twisting going on about the Martin murder is amazing.

Here’s the bottom line of the hate-right: Martin was the racist, not Zimmerman, so the fact that Zimmerman killed Martin is not a problem.

69 engineer cat  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:29:26pm

re: #66 Occam’s Guillotine

shal be shwon that Califronis

i dare anybody to try and type that bad without the assistance of jim beam

71 darthstar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:31:47pm

re: #69 engineer cat

i dare anybody to try and type that bad without the assistance of jim beam

shallenge axshcepted!

72 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:32:25pm

With Ramadan coming up here, I do need to note something.

Back a year or two ago, after I originally converted, I talked to a Muslim Doctor at mosque. After telling him about my mental health issues, he advised that I do alternate things for Ramadan.

73 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:32:30pm

re: #67 GeneJockey

Maek Englush thuh ofishal langwidge uv Amercia!

Part of the GOP platform, translated into Freeperese: (credit for some key language to another Lizard (Decatur Deb?))

1. Teh only important part to a wimmin is the hoo-haw.

2. Teh hoo-haw is important becuz the babiez comes from it, and becuz the menz lik teh hee-haw in the hoo-haw.

3. Terefur and actshully, no law or right can interfere with babiez comming from teh hoo-haw, or with teh hee-haw in the hoo-haw.

74 darthstar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:34:03pm
75 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:34:39pm

re: #67 GeneJockey

Maek Englush thuh ofishal langwidge uv Amercia!

Póg mo thóin

76 darthstar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:37:12pm
77 Weet  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:37:19pm

re: #41 SpaceJesus

There’s just too much winger rage to make a post showcasing it.

freerepublic.com

Freep is even angrier than when Obama was reelected

“Yes Bachman told us how to stop Amnesty. call the House and tell them not to put any immigration related bill out there.”

Or, dig up Ronald Reagan and beat him to a bloody pulp.

78 Randall Gross  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:38:39pm

Notice how nobody challenged the pseudo science pain hypothesis that Newt trotted out at the beginning. There’s like one highly controversial paper that says fetus’ can feel pain at that age, where all scientific evidence and almost all other scientists agree that it’s 23 weeks or beyond that fetus’ develop sensitivity to pain.

79 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:39:28pm

Republican insists nationwide same-sex marriage ban is possible

“I think given this decision, which I think has shocked a lot of Americans, that the court would step this far and accuse Bill Clinton and the Republican Congress of that time of animus — you know, the decision was outrageous,” Huelskamp said. “I think it is going to encourage a lot of folks to step forward and say, ‘Hey, we’ve got to protect marriage and protect families and particularly our children.’”

Blitzer noted that Republicans had previously tried to pass the Federal Marriage Amendment in 2006 but failed. Now, even more Americans support the right of same-sex couples to marry.

But Huelskamp insisted Republicans would receive strong support from minority communities. He added the “outrage” caused by the Supreme Court would bolster the chances of the Federal Marriage Amendment this time around.

Also, the Tooth Fairy and Easter Bunny will sprinkle magic pixie dust on prospective voters making them vote to outlaw same-sex marriage.

80 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:39:43pm

re: #78 Randall Gross

Notice how nobody challenged the pseudo science pain hypothesis that Newt trotted out at the beginning. There’s like one highly controversial paper that says fetus’ can feel pain at that age, where all scientific evidence and almost all other scientists agree that it’s 23 weeks or beyond that fetus’ develop sensitivity to pain.

but, but, but…at which week do they feel the pleasure of masturbating??11!!!

81 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:41:29pm

re: #78 Randall Gross

Notice how nobody challenged the pseudo science pain hypothesis that Newt trotted out at the beginning. There’s like one highly controversial paper that says fetus’ can feel pain at that age, where all scientific evidence and almost all other scientists agree that it’s 23 weeks or beyond that fetus’ develop sensitivity to pain.

I know, it’s maddening to see these bogus claims go unchallenged.

82 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:42:38pm

re: #81 Charles Johnson

I know, it’s maddening to see these bogus claims go unchallenged.

The only “research” I’ve even seen anyone preaching this “fetal pain” crap talk about was done on rats.

83 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:42:46pm

I always get a kick out of it when one of Greenwald’s fans tells me I don’t understand the Internet or how networks work.

84 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:42:49pm

re: #78 Randall Gross

Notice how nobody challenged the pseudo science pain hypothesis that Newt trotted out at the beginning. There’s like one highly controversial paper that says fetus’ can feel pain at that age, where all scientific evidence and almost all other scientists agree that it’s 23 weeks or beyond that fetus’ develop sensitivity to pain.

My assumption would be that nobody in the abortion debate really cares about when the fetus can feel pain. The Anti-choicers want to eliminate all abortion, and the pro-choicers, seeing this, are usually astute enough to not fall for distractions like fetal pain.

85 engineer cat  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:44:20pm

re: #83 Charles Johnson

I always get a kick out of it when one of Greenwald’s fans tells me I don’t understand the Internet or how networks work.

i hear the internets work by a series of boobs

86 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:46:52pm

re: #85 engineer cat

i hear the internets work by a series of boobies

humongous boobies…there’s lotz of stuffz that needs transmitting…

87 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:47:34pm

Tubes full of magic smoke. Everybody knows that.

88 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:48:57pm

The internet is controlled by an intricate system of ropes and pulleys.

89 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:49:21pm

re: #86 Backwoods_Sleuth

humongous boobies…there’s lotz of stuffz that needs transmitting…

The Blue Footed kind? They’re pretty big.

90 freetoken  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:49:32pm

re: #88 Kragar

The internet is controlled by an intricate system of ropes and pulleys.

Self-siphoning chains.

91 Randall Gross  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:50:42pm

A link to the majick toobs on fetal pain:

jezebel.com

92 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 4:53:18pm

re: #30 freetoken

The Atlantic puts it succinctly:

My Star Witness Is Black: Rachel Jeantel’s Testimony Makes Trayvon a Show Trial

The comments there are pathetic and disgusting.

93 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 5:01:06pm

re: #58 Kid A

Mr. Accurate Intercourse:

He’s a doctor, too. He’s seen actual patients, I presume. He is aware, presumably, of enough biology to at least avoid accidentally detaching people’s limbs when they come to him for their annual flu vaccines, presuming he Believes in vaccines, which is not a given, and yet he is apparently arguing that we need not worry about the implications of further abortion restrictions because only people who accurately do the intercourse thing get pregnant, and therefore … something.

.

I wonder if Accurate Intercourse results in Legitimate Rape.

94 freetoken  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 5:01:15pm

re: #92 Joanne

The comments there are pathetic and disgusting.

Not compared to the ones on Faux News or FreeRepublic.

95 piratedan  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 5:04:37pm

SE Cupp, bringing a whole new meaning, but not really, to the term Working Girl.

96 elizajane  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 5:06:46pm

re: #59 Occam’s Guillotine

Lubbock has one abortion provider and they perform these services just one day a week. The security guards arrive early, with shotguns in plain sight, followed shortly by the staff and a regular mob of loafers who stand across the street waving signs and screaming abuse at anyone within earshot, including the terrified teenagers who make up the majority of the clients.

I’ve mentioned before that I know one of those security guards. The clinic just closed and I just talked to him. He said the protesters were more aggressive than usual today, despite the 105 degree heat. One of the regular agitators, a fundy preacher who looks remarkably like the young Richard Nixon, ran halfway into the street where he started doing some sort of dance and making weird faces, like a deranged organ grinder’s monkey. Others challenged the guards to come over and fight. There were the usual curses, imprecations, and predictions of anal rape by demons once the “baby killers” arrive in hell. Some of them taunt staff, patients, and guards alike with the names of doctors assassinated by anti-abortion terrorists. The place is arranged to keep patients as far from the mob as possible, and out of sight, but they can still hear the demented cursing and chanting from the devoted Christians across the street.

This kind of insane theater plays out every day at hundreds of clinics around the country, with almost no attention from the media.

That is horrible! If any of my daughters ever needs and wants an abortion, which I hope they do not, I will personally escort them to The Netherlands where early-term abortions are unprotested, unremarkable, and (what do you know!) much more rare than they are here.

In a sane society this last fact would suggest the need to change our own system through some means other than shaming women, staging protests, and assassinating doctors, but obviously that is not going to happen.

97 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 5:06:53pm

re: #89 GeneJockey

The Blue Footed kind? They’re pretty big.

evolution at one of its finest moments…

98 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 5:09:50pm

heh, Texas Sen. Leticia Van de Putte, describing Perry’s rant, on Chris Hayes right now…
“well, bless his heart…”

99 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 5:12:28pm

re: #98 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, someone does, cause other-wise, he is on a short trip to a hot place.

100 wrenchwench  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 5:13:37pm

re: #76 darthstar

“I am not going to be scrambling jets to get a 29-year-old hacker.”

When I heard that this morning, my first thought was to wonder who would be more annoyed by that, Greenwald or Snowden.

101 engineer cat  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 5:16:25pm

re: #98 Backwoods_Sleuth

Leticia Van de Putte

more names like this please!

102 krypto  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 5:17:41pm

What are the odds that Rush Limbaugh is about to weigh in with a Sandra-Fluke style denunciation?

103 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 5:18:27pm

re: #94 freetoken

Not compared to the ones on Faux News or FreeRepublic.

Just wait till somebody posts a comment on one of them, pointing to those STOOPID lib’rals at Atlantic, and they all go over en masse to pollute the stream.

104 Blue Point Nines 09  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 5:19:10pm

One look at that panel and I’m sure it will be a big hit with the Chem Trail alien time traveling brain dead booger eating inbred that CNN desperately wants to high jack from Fox Mental Industries.

105 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 5:21:00pm

re: #96 elizajane

That is horrible! If any of my daughters ever needs and wants an abortion, which I hope they do not, I will personally escort them to The Netherlands where early-term abortions are unprotested, unremarkable, and (what do you know!) much more rare than they are here.

In a sane society this last fact would suggest the need to change our own system through some means other than shaming women, staging protests, and assassinating doctors, but obviously that is not going to happen.

Yep. Many people make the mistake of thinking that the Prolifers are about protecting fetuses, but it’s really about control and shaming of women who dare to be sexual.

106 engineer cat  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 5:21:09pm

re: #104 nines09

One look at that panel and I’m sure it will be a big hit with the Chem Trail alien time traveling brain dead booger eating inbred that CNN desperately wants to high jack from Fox Mental Industries.

stoopits people haz gots munny too yanno…

107 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 5:22:37pm

re: #106 engineer cat

stoopits people haz gots munny too yanno…

Yoo speled wun werd kerrectlee. Know soop four yew! Won yeer!

Uups! Idt wuz akchually TOO werds. Yew evun yoozed teh kerrekt two.

108 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 5:25:52pm

re: #104 nines09

My friends ex was all over the chem trails. I was thrilled when he got the heave ho. Did you know you’re supposed to hold your breath from your house to your car so they don’t get you? Yeah, I didn’t think so.

109 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 5:27:06pm

re: #105 GeneJockey

Yep. Many people make the mistake of thinking that the Prolifers are about protecting fetuses, but it’s really about control and shaming of women who dare to be sexual.

I was using farcical language in my #73, but I was completely serious about the point being made. The ‘pro-lifers’ care about the fetus only to the extent that its supposed rights can be used as a tool to keep women in line.

The complete lack of anything resembling a pro-life ethical stance in any other RWNJ policy position is sufficient proof of this.

110 Mattand  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 5:28:21pm

S.E. Cupp: proving she’s just as good at embarrassing women as she is atheists.

111 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 5:31:40pm

re: #109 EPR-radar

I was using farcical language in my #73, but I was completely serious about the point being made. The ‘pro-lifers’ care about the fetus only to the extent that its supposed rights can be used as a tool to keep women in line.

The complete lack of anything resembling a pro-life ethical stance in any other RWNJ policy position is sufficient proof of this.

The other compelling piece of evidence is their lack of support for free or cheap contraception - indeed, their opposition to such! If they really gave a flying crap about reducing abortion, they’d support contraception, and they’d stop trying to convince everyone that everything is an ‘abortifacient’ as a reason to ban it.

112 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 5:33:41pm

re: #110 Mattand

S.E. Cupp: proving she’s just as good at embarrassing women as she is atheists.

You know, I’ve read how Bill Maher and other stupid, blowhard atheists are somehow hurting atheists in general, but that kind of thinking seems to me to have already internalized the idea that atheism is a religion and should be seen as equivalent to organized religions.

113 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 5:34:46pm

re: #108 Joanne

My friends ex was all over the chem trails. I was thrilled when he got the heave ho. Did you know you’re supposed to hold your breath from your house to your car so they don’t get you? Yeah, I didn’t think so.

Wait - what?

114 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 5:38:05pm

re: #96 elizajane

Hey, what’s your department at Berkeley? I know some profs there— I knew Charles Muscatine, he was a good friend, and I know Robert Alter and Marilyn Fabe.

115 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 5:38:37pm

re: #112 GeneJockey

You know, I’ve read how Bill Maher and other stupid, blowhard atheists are somehow hurting atheists in general, but that kind of thinking seems to me to have already internalized the idea that atheism is a religion and should be seen as equivalent to organized religions.

I don’t see how this really works. For example, if a several politicians/leaders of a political party make asses of themselves in public, they don’t help their party.

The same could be true of atheists allegedly damaging their cause. Mere organization or naming or having a cause isn’t really an equivalent to organized religion.

116 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 5:38:42pm

To follow up on my OH abortion post:

They’ve found their chance with this budget amendment, which actually seeks to redefine the medical terms of pregnancy under Ohio law. The new provision defines a fetus as “human offspring developing during pregnancy from the moment of conception and includes the embryonic stage of development” and ultimately declares that pregnancy begins at fertilization. The commonly accepted scientific definition of pregnancy, however, is the point at which a fertilized egg becomes implanted in the uterine lining.

thinkprogress.org

117 Mattand  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 5:42:05pm

re: #112 GeneJockey

You know, I’ve read how Bill Maher and other stupid, blowhard atheists are somehow hurting atheists in general, but that kind of thinking seems to me to have already internalized the idea that atheism is a religion and should be seen as equivalent to organized religions.

In a word: no.

The other blowhard atheists don’t claim they’re atheists and then complain they wish they could believe in God, or say they’d never vote for an atheist President because they wouldn’t trust him/her.

118 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 5:43:22pm

re: #115 EPR-radar

I don’t see how this really works. For example, if a several politicians/leaders of a political party make asses of themselves in public, they don’t help their party.

The same could be true of atheists allegedly damaging their cause. Mere organization or naming or having a cause isn’t really an equivalent to organized religion.

The problem I have is identifying atheism as a cause. There is not AFAIK an atheist ‘cause’, or any particular cause that is unique to atheists. My siblings are all believers of one stripe or another, but they and I are in pretty much complete agreement on pretty much all matters related to religion and society, religion and the state, religion and education etc.

119 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 5:43:27pm

re: #113 GeneJockey

Wait - what?

Don’t breath the chem trails coz they’ll fuck with your mind…or something.

120 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 5:44:08pm

re: #119 Joanne

Don’t breath the chem trails coz they’ll fuck with your mind…or something.

It must be too late for me, because that makes no sense at all.
//

121 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 5:45:37pm

re: #120 GeneJockey

It must be too late for me, because that makes no sense at all.
//

Then they’ve worked. Your mind, it’s now controlled. The gubmint owns you!

122 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 5:46:33pm

re: #121 Joanne

Then they’ve worked. Your mind, it’s now controlled. The gubmint owns you!

You’d think they’d keep me in better shape, then.

123 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 5:47:18pm

re: #118 GeneJockey

The problem I have is identifying atheism as a cause. There is not AFAIK an atheist ‘cause’, or any particular cause that is unique to atheists. My siblings are all believers of one stripe or another, but they and I are in pretty much complete agreement on pretty much all matters related to religion and society, religion and the state, religion and education etc.

I think the basic atheist cause is to simply not have it matter whether someone is a believer or an atheist.

124 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 5:51:26pm

re: #117 Mattand

In a word: no.

The other blowhard atheists don’t claim they’re atheists and then complain they wish they could believe in God, or say they’d never vote for an atheist President because they wouldn’t trust him/her.

So that is SE Cupp’s game. I usually don’t claim that people lie about their self-identification, but she seems to be an atheist the same way I’m the next Albert Einstein.

125 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 5:54:30pm

re: #124 EPR-radar

So that is SE Cupp’s game. I usually don’t claim that people lie about their self-identification, but she seems to be an atheist the same way I’m the next Albert Einstein.

Are you attempting to parlay your Einstein claim into a career as an anti-intellectual?
//

126 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 5:55:38pm

re: #125 GeneJockey

Are you attempting to parlay your Einstein claim into a career as an anti-intellectual?
//

You caught me. My #73 was a practice piece for an upcoming series of columns in the NRO. ///

127 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 5:57:47pm

I guess my point is that it doesn’t embarrass me that S.E.Cupp claims not to believe in the same thing I don’t believe in, because what we share is the absence of a belief, rather than a belief.

I’m also not embarrassed when someone who, like me, doesn’t believe in Santa Claus makes an ass of him/herself in public.

See what I mean? Not trying to be oppositional, it just seems odd that her alleged absence of belief should be seen as something that links us.

128 Mattand  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 5:58:09pm

re: #124 EPR-radar

So that is SE Cupp’s game. I usually don’t claim that people lie about their self-identification, but she seems to be an atheist the same way I’m the next Albert Einstein.

Yeah, that’s I get irritated with the “You atheists have your own religion” bullshit. Maybe Cupp truly doesn’t believe gods, heaven, hell, etc. exist. The fact she seems to be always badmouthing atheism makes me suspect her motives.

129 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 5:59:22pm

re: #128 Mattand

Yeah, that’s I get irritated with the “You atheists have your own religion” bullshit. Maybe Cupp truly doesn’t believe gods, heaven, hell, etc. exist. The fact she seems to be always badmouthing atheism makes me suspect her motives.

Didn’t she at one point renounce her “atheism” and “accept Jesus” which cause many people to question whether she had ever been an atheist at all? Or am I misremembering?

130 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 5:59:38pm

re: #128 Mattand

Yeah, that’s I get irritated with the “You atheists have your own religion” bullshit. Maybe Cupp truly doesn’t believe gods, heaven, hell, etc. exist. The fact she seems to be always badmouthing atheism makes me suspect her motives.

Oh, yes. Abso-froggin’-lutely. I seriously doubt her atheism, because she expresses it with shame, as if it were something embarrassing.

131 Blue Point Nines 09  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:00:16pm

re: #108 Joanne

My friends ex was all over the chem trails. I was thrilled when he got the heave ho. Did you know you’re supposed to hold your breath from your house to your car so they don’t get you? Yeah, I didn’t think so.

Never knew that. Second hand Chem Trail?

132 Mattand  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:00:30pm

re: #129 Vicious Babushka

Didn’t she at one point renounce her “atheism” and “accept Jesus” which cause many people to question whether she had ever been an atheist at all? Or am I misremembering?

Not to my knowledge, although I personally won’t be surprised if/when it happens.

133 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:00:37pm

re: #129 Vicious Babushka

Didn’t she at one point renounce her “atheism” and “accept Jesus” which cause many people to question whether she had ever been an atheist at all? Or am I misremembering?

That’d be the icing on the cake.

134 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:01:41pm

re: #128 Mattand

I’m fascinated that she would say that she’s an athiest. I’ve seen her on MSNBC and she’s always struck me as a religious con. She’s a fluent liar, too. And her cohost s on The Cycle never call her on her BS. It’s infuriating.

135 engineer cat  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:04:52pm

they never give up

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136 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:05:02pm

re: #132 Mattand

Not to my knowledge, although I personally won’t be surprised if/when it happens.

Maybe I am thinking of “Dr. Laura” who got outed eating bacon and rolling on Shabbos, and then admitted that she was a Christian the whole time.

137 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:05:07pm

re: #131 nines09

Never knew that. Second hand Chem Trail?

No. First class nutcase. :-)

138 Mattand  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:05:21pm

re: #134 Joanne

I’m fascinated that she would say that she’s an athiest. I’ve seen her on MSNBC and she’s always struck me as a religious con. She’s a fluent liar, too. And her cohost s on The Cycle never call her on her BS. It’s infuriating.

Enjoy (although there is a Blaze link here):

theblaze.com

patheos.com

139 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:05:55pm

re: #127 GeneJockey

I guess my point is that it doesn’t embarrass me that S.E.Cupp claims not to believe in the same thing I don’t believe in, because what we share is the absence of a belief, rather than a belief.

I’m also not embarrassed when someone who, like me, doesn’t believe in Santa Claus makes an ass of him/herself in public.

See what I mean? Not trying to be oppositional, it just seems odd that her alleged absence of belief should be seen as something that links us.

You make a good point here. I think it comes down to atheism being a political issue the way belief in Santa Claus is not.

Nobody on the minority side of a political issue likes to see their own side misbehaving. It’s just not helpful to getting to the desired end point where atheism doesn’t matter.

Incidentally, with respect to SE Cupp, I view her as a liar not to be taken as representative of atheists. The atheist misbehavior I’m more concerned with is atheists who broad-brush all religious believers as irrational fools.

140 Mattand  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:06:02pm

re: #136 Vicious Babushka

Maybe I am thinking of “Dr. Laura” who got outed eating bacon and rolling on Shabbos, and then admitted that she was a Christian the whole time.

Oh, that’s too funny. Will Google that later.

141 engineer cat  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:13:54pm

crossfire

any show which has newt as a commentator is automatically right wing propaganda

142 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:13:55pm

re: #138 Mattand

Enjoy (although there is a Blaze link here):

theblaze.com

patheos.com

Agnostic…perhaps. An atheist? No freaking way. We’re both atheists (he raised Catholic, me Jewish) and neither of us would ever vote for someone who wears their faith on their sleeves. I’d vote for an athiest over a zealot every time.

143 engineer cat  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:17:18pm

“You atheists have your own religion”

since when have atheists been organized?

144 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:17:51pm


I wonder if they’ll be all pissed about being called Blowhards as much as TPers are at being called (self-described) Teabaggers.

145 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:17:55pm

re: #92 Joanne

The comments there are pathetic and disgusting.

When George Zimmerman is acquitted, the wingnuts will be happier than they would have been if Romney had won the election.

146 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:18:10pm

re: #139 EPR-radar

You make a good point here. I think it comes down to atheism being a political issue the way belief in Santa Claus is not.

Nobody on the minority side of a political issue likes to see their own side misbehaving. It’s just not helpful to getting to the desired end point where atheism doesn’t matter.

And the problem is that, like most identity politics, it’s not the people identified as a minority that originally made it an issue. Blacks didn’t make blackness an issue - whites did. Women didn’t make gender an issue - men did. Gays didn’t make sexuality an issue - straights did. Similarly, atheists didn’t make nonbelief an issue - believers did.

Incidentally, with respect to SE Cupp, I view her as a liar not to be taken as representative of atheists. The atheist misbehavior I’m more concerned with is atheists who broad-brush all religious believers as irrational fools.

Well, yeah. But so many are!
//

147 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:19:13pm

re: #145 moderatelyradicalliberal

When George Zimmerman is acquitted, the wingnuts will be happier than they would have been if Romney had won the election.

And a 17 year old black kid will still be dead.

Fuck. I hate humanity sometimes.

148 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:19:16pm

I’m a devout agnostic.

I don’t know about a higher power, but I know when someone is full of shit.

149 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:19:58pm

re: #145 moderatelyradicalliberal

When George Zimmerman is acquitted, the wingnuts will be happier than they would have been if Romney had won the election.

If that happens, watch for the dark horse 2016 GOP presidential ticket:

Zimmerman - FetusInAJar

150 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:21:08pm

re: #149 EPR-radar

If that happens, watch for the dark horse 2016 GOP presidential ticket:

Zimmerman - FetusInAJar

He will be making the wingnut welfare circuit. He’s going to have to pay the Martins a lot of money when they win there civil suit.

151 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:21:19pm

re: #149 EPR-radar

If that happens, watch for the dark horse 2016 GOP presidential ticket:

Zimmerman - FetusInAJar

Still better than Rick Perry

152 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:23:27pm

re: #151 Kragar

Still better than Rick Perry

Indeed. Zimmerman has murdered fewer people than Rick Perry.

153 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:24:35pm

re: #41 SpaceJesus

There’s just too much winger rage to make a post showcasing it.

freerepublic.com

Freep is even angrier than when Obama was reelected

Those people don’t seem to love America very much anymore. She’s gotten to brown.

154 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:25:10pm

re: #138 Mattand

Enjoy (although there is a Blaze link here):

theblaze.com

patheos.com

Hokey smokes, Bullwinkle! I’d forgotten some of the shit she’s said about atheism and atheists. She’s even worse than I thought!

155 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:28:47pm

re: #153 moderatelyradicalliberal

Those people don’t seem to love America very much anymore. She’s gotten to brown.

They’ve never really gotten the whole idea of America, or liberty. When somebody thinks two strangers getting married means they themselves are less free - well, let me quote Inigo Montoya: “You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”

156 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:29:25pm

Cupp is as much an atheist as a saddlebacker is a virgin.

157 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:30:03pm

OT, but there is a fine crop of wingnut tears about the Prop8 and DOMA decisions at the NRO.

They are delicious.

158 austin_blue  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:33:14pm

Gail Collins today:

nytimes.com

Note that “the unruly mob” was quiet all day until Dewhurst told Davis to shut up and sit down when she started talking about existing abortion law while filibustering an abortion law.

This is what Letecia van De Putte said to set them off:

With ten minutes left before the bill was set to expire, Van de Putte asked the following very quiet parliamentary inquiry: “At what point must a female senator raise her hand or her voice to be recognized over her male colleagues?”

And the fight was over.

159 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:37:03pm

It would seem that putting in S.E. Cupp on the new Crossfire is CNN going the “Fox Babes” route. Am I correct in that?

160 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:42:02pm

re: #159 Dark_Falcon

It would seem that putting in S.E. Cupp on the new Crossfire is CNN going the “Fox Babes” route. Am I correct in that?

You are. But I believe the formula requires more blond.

161 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:45:10pm

re: #160 moderatelyradicalliberal

You are. But I believe the formula requires more blond.

Well, CNN doesn’t want to go to FNC’s extremes, so I’m guessing they think brunette is a sensible and more moderate alternative.

162 subterraneanhomesickalien  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 10:09:00pm

...

163 RadicalModerate  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 4:45:38am

Everything I think about CNN resurrecting Crossfire can be summed up in one video clip.

Youtube Video

It was true in 2004, and it is definitely true today.

164 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:05:13am

All I can say is thank the gods that SE Cupp will no longer be on “The Cycle”.

165 BroncD  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:23:31pm

In other words, if you’re not as brave as Rosa Parks you’re just pathetic? Like, there’s no middle ground?


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