Karl Rove: Republicans Are Looking at Up to 450 Data Points About Each US Household

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Speaking this morning at the Aspen Ideas Festival (co-organized by Quartz’s sister publication The Atlantic), Rove discussed in some detail how it works:

“In the Republican case, they take up to 450 pieces of household-level of information about you in order to develop three numbers: how likely are you to vote, how persuadable are you, and then a complex algorithm for every voter and non-voter—everyone registered and everybody unregistered—that describes your view of the world, what’s important to you and how do you think about things, what will motivate you.”

Campaigns then use that data to target individual voters with specific messages, or calls or visits from campaign volunteers. Rove said that Republicans were earlier to use such technology, but a contributing factor to president Barack Obama’s 2012 re-election was Democrats’ “dynamic micro-targeting” of voters. Rove said that this allowed Democrats to identify on-the-fly how news and campaign developments could sway specific voters, while the Republicans’ campaign modeling was more fixed.

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513 comments
1 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:32:44pm

They didn’t develop this algorithm, they bought it from some targeted marketing company.

2 jaunte  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:33:30pm
what’s important to you and how do you think about things, what will motivate you

Judging by their execution, “fear” appears to be the winner by miles.

3 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:35:16pm

My biggest data point: I won’t vote for a fucking Republican.

4 engineer cat  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:35:22pm

they take up to 450 pieces of household-level of information about you in order to

figure out how likely you are to be persuaded that horseshit tastes just like ice cream

5 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:36:57pm

The ability to engage in micro-targeting of voters is insignificant compared to the worthlessness of GOP policies.

6 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:37:37pm

The rise of the Republican quants.

7 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:37:43pm

re: #5 EPR-radar

The ability to engage in micro-targeting of voters is insignificant compared to the worthlessness of GOP policies.

How many data points do you need to find out if the person is a white christian male in the South?

8 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:39:21pm

re: #5 EPR-radar

The ability to engage in micro-targeting of voters is insignificant compared to the worthlessness of GOP policies.

I heard that in my head in Darth Vader’s voice. Karl should not be too proud of this technological terror he’s created…

9 bubba zanetti  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:39:36pm

re: #7 Kragar

How many data points do you need to find out if the person is a white christian male in the South?

How many zeroes can you write on a check?

10 austin_blue  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:40:59pm

Yah, that’ll help. Yesterday, the day the R’s were beginning their “outreach to women” program, they tweeted their followers to attack Senator Davis using the hash tag: “#Wendy, sit down!”.

Within minutes, it was highjacked by the left, who made comments such as:

“RT: #Wendy, sit down! Yes, Wendy, please sit down. Get a mani and a pedi! You deserve it for all the good you did for us last night.”

&c, &c, &c.

These people are stone cold idiots when it comes to social media.

11 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:41:15pm

re: #8 GeneJockey

I heard that in my head in Darth Vader’s voice. Karl should not be too proud of this technological terror he’s created…

“I find you lack of faith in data mining disturbing…”

/Stay on Target!

12 b.d.  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:42:32pm

If you tell them that you’re a minority they’ll delete your profile and forget they ever heard of you.

13 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:42:40pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

The rise of the Republican quants.

The competent quants that have worldviews compatible with the GOP (i.e., borderline sociopathy or worse) are mostly constructing exotic/fraudulent deals in the financial sector to line their own pockets.

They would be taking a big pay cut to work for the GOP.

14 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:43:27pm

re: #3 Kragar

My biggest data point: I won’t vote for a fucking Republican.

Ever. Under any circumstance. I’ll do what the most appreciate; I’ll abstain first. They’re untrustworthy and say one thing and vote completely differently.

Maybe they can rebuild trust. I’ll be dead by then.

15 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:43:27pm

Rove: There have got to me more angry white guys to vote for us. We just have to find them dammit!

16 austin_blue  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:44:40pm

re: #1 Vicious Babushka

They didn’t develop this algorithm, they bought it from some targeted marketing company.

Hey, if it’s good enough for the NSA…

Oh, wait. We don’t like that.

Now.

Harsh world for Turd Blossom right now, innit?

17 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:46:20pm

re: #16 austin_blue

Hey, if it’s good enough for the NSA…

Oh, wait. We don’t like that.

Now.

Harsh world for Turd Blossom right now, innit?

No other way it could be. He’s still living down getting his ass kicked by a woman.

18 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:46:49pm

Given the choice between an excellent local GOP candidate and a poor Democrat, the Democrat still gets my vote because the GOP will fuck us over as a party.

19 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:48:06pm

PS: I voted GOP in every election up to and including 2008. I’ve learned my lesson and regret every miscast vote I made for close to 20 years.

20 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:49:59pm

So, if this quote by Rove is accurate,

“a complex algorithm for every voter and non-voter—everyone registered and everybody unregistered—that describes your view of the world, what’s important to you and how do you think about things, what will motivate you.”

is supposed to reduce to one of the three sacred numbers for each voter?

Likelihood of turnout and persuadability can be quantified, but this third number seems bizarre.

21 austin_blue  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:53:04pm

I’m gonna repost this from downstairs, just because you real should read Collins’ article:

**Gail Collins today:

nytimes.com

Note that “the unruly mob” was quiet all day until Dewhurst told Davis to shut up and sit down when she started talking about existing abortion law while filibustering an abortion law.

This is what Letecia van De Putte said to set them off:

With ten minutes left before the bill was set to expire, Van de Putte asked the following very quiet parliamentary inquiry: “At what point must a female senator raise her hand or her voice to be recognized over her male colleagues?”

And the fight was over.**

Most Lib columnists generally have a sense of humor, if often snide.

It seems most Con columnists read like Satan is in your gut, twisting your intestines, and screaming “C’mon, shit, shit you ignorant bastard! You know I’m right and you want it!”

(with apologies to Tom Pynchon)

22 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:54:18pm

Company allegedly misled government about security clearance checks

Federal investigators have told lawmakers they have evidence that USIS, the contractor that screened Edward Snowden for his top-secret clearance, repeatedly misled the government about the thoroughness of its background checks, according to people familiar with the matter.

The alleged transgressions are so serious that a federal watchdog indicated he plans to recommend that the Office of Personnel Management, which oversees most background checks, end ties with USIS unless it can show it is performing responsibly, the people said.

Read more at:
washingtonpost.com

23 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:59:40pm

re: #18 Kragar

Given the choice between an excellent local GOP candidate and a poor Democrat, the Democrat still gets my vote because the GOP will fuck us over as a party.

Same here. No votes for the GOP, ever. No votes for a third party, ever. I used to vote GOP (e.g., for Bush II in 2000), but the party has clearly gone off the rails since then.

Also, the lies upon which US conservative orthodoxy is based have also become more clear to me since then. If I got a do-over for 2000, I would happily vote for Gore, even without assuming advance knowledge of how awful Bush II would be. The warning signs for that clusterfuck were easy enough to see, if one would have looked for them.

24 austin_blue  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 6:59:44pm

re: #22 Joanne

Company allegedly misled government about security clearance checks

Federal investigators have told lawmakers they have evidence that USIS, the contractor that screened Edward Snowden for his top-secret clearance, repeatedly misled the government about the thoroughness of its background checks, according to people familiar with the matter.

The alleged transgressions are so serious that a federal watchdog indicated he plans to recommend that the Office of Personnel Management, which oversees most background checks, end ties with USIS unless it can show it is performing responsibly, the people said.

Read more at:
washingtonpost.com

Privatize the profit and Socialize the cost.

I am shocked *shocked!* to read this!!

25 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:00:20pm

re: #22 Joanne

Company allegedly misled government about security clearance checks

Federal investigators have told lawmakers they have evidence that USIS, the contractor that screened Edward Snowden for his top-secret clearance, repeatedly misled the government about the thoroughness of its background checks, according to people familiar with the matter.

The alleged transgressions are so serious that a federal watchdog indicated he plans to recommend that the Office of Personnel Management, which oversees most background checks, end ties with USIS unless it can show it is performing responsibly, the people said.

Read more at:
washingtonpost.com

If it can, the government should sue USIS. Booz Allen Hamilton surely should as well. Between the two suits, USIS should be bankrupted and then background checks can be entrusted to a more responsible entity (which may mean the federal government, but might not as well).

26 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:01:52pm

re: #22 Joanne

Security and background checks are an expensive pain in the ass which have no inherent revenue generating potential. This is absolutely the last kind of thing the Feds should be outsourcing to the private sector.

27 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:03:45pm

re: #24 austin_blue

re: #25 Dark_Falcon

I’m livid they’re giving them a chance to show improvements. Fuck. That.

If there are not dire consequences for fucking over a customer as large as the government, everyone is going to take shortcuts.

Fuck. This.

28 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:04:46pm

re: #26 EPR-radar

Security and background checks are an expensive pain in the ass which have no inherent revenue generating potential. This is absolutely the last kind of thing the Feds should be outsourcing to the private sector.

Has great revenue generating potential if you pencil-whip the review and charge a fortune.

29 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:06:23pm

re: #27 Joanne

re: #25 Dark_Falcon

I’m livid they’re giving them a chance to show improvements. Fuck. That.

If there are not dire consequences for fucking over a customer as large as the government, everyone is going to take shortcuts.

Fuck. This.

The government can give them a chance, but BAH should still sue their asses. BAH has suffered reputation damage from this as well as serious monetary losses. USIS exposed BAH to those losses when they failed to find out that Edward Snowden was a disloyal TraziProg.

30 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:08:18pm

re: #29 Dark_Falcon

What’s a TraziProg?

31 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:08:28pm

re: #27 Joanne

I’m livid they’re giving them a chance to show improvements. Fuck. That.

If there are not dire consequences for fucking over a customer as large as the government, everyone is going to take shortcuts.

Fuck. This.

If the facts reported in the Post article are as stated, then I agree 1000%. USIS needs to lose the contract. The corporate veil for USIS would need to be pierced so that individual USIS executives face criminal and civil charges for this.

Enron-style business as usual at the expense of national security is totally intolerable.

32 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:12:02pm

re: #29 Dark_Falcon

The government can give them a chance, but BAH should still sue their asses. BAH has suffered reputation damage from this as well as serious monetary losses. USIS exposed BAH to those losses when they failed to find out that Edward Snowden was a disloyal TraziProg.

From the article, it is not clear whether Snowden’s background check was done improperly or not. The fact that Snowden turned out to be untrustworthy is not proof that his background check was done improperly.

With respect to the fate of USIS and its executives, that point doesn’t really matter too much to me. The other points in the article were damning enough.

33 Gus  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:13:29pm

What the hell is it with Republicans? Do they ever stop thinking about abortions? Do they ever stop thinking about gay men? Do they ever stop thinking about sodomy? Do they ever stop thinking about blow jobs?

34 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:14:49pm

re: #33 Gus

What the hell is it with Republicans? Do they ever stop thinking about abortions? Do they ever stop thinking about gay men? Do they ever stop thinking about sodomy? Do they ever stop thinking about blow jobs?

Surely some of the 450 data points per household must relate to obsession levels for RWNJ pet peeves.

35 Gus  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:15:30pm

re: #34 EPR-radar

Surely some of the 450 data points per household must relate to obsession levels for RWNJ pet peeves.

The party of genital control. Genitally Obsessed Party. GOP.

36 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:15:43pm

re: #33 Gus

What the hell is it with Republicans? Do they ever stop thinking about abortions? Do they ever stop thinking about gay men? Do they ever stop thinking about sodomy? Do they ever stop thinking about blow jobs?

No, because whatever their flavor, they’re not getting any. Hence, no one else should. Especially those slutty wimmens.

37 Gus  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:17:52pm

re: #36 Joanne

No, because whatever their flavor, they’re not getting any. Hence, no one else should. Especially those slutty wimmens.

They’re a bunch of freaking hypocrites too. Most of their leaders have been adulterers. Is anyone stupid enough to think there weren’t any abortion involved in Newt Gingrich’s sport fucking career? We know that’s the case with Clint Eastwood.

38 Weet  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:18:13pm

re: #32 EPR-radar

From the article, it is not clear whether Snowden’s background check was done improperly or not. The fact that Snowden turned out to be untrustworthy is not proof that his background check was done improperly.

Already been reported that he lied about his education and they knew it. They let it slide.

39 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:18:21pm

re: #35 Gus

The party of genital control. Genitally Obsessed Party. GOP.

Wouldn’t it be hilarious if the GOP’s own data mining showed a positive correlation between online porn viewing (especially the harder core stuff) and tendency to vote GOP.

If so, I’d love to hear the conversation where the quants bring this data to the attention of Huckabee, Santorum et al.

40 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:19:11pm

re: #30 Joanne

What’s a TraziProg?

TRANSnational PROgressive. Basically a far leftist who claims loyalty to some type of ‘transnational’ ideal he or she holds higher than their loyalty to their nation.

most Americans who call themselves ‘Progressives’ do not fit this label, as most them are loyal to America and will not willingly act to harm her.

41 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:20:20pm

re: #40 Dark_Falcon

Thanks.

42 Gus  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:20:41pm

re: #39 EPR-radar

Wouldn’t it be hilarious if the GOP’s own data mining showed a positive correlation between online porn viewing (especially the harder core stuff) and tendency to vote GOP.

If so, I’d love to hear the conversation where the quants bring this data to the attention of Huckabee, Santorum et al.

I think that’s already been proven. Wasn’t the highest in Utah and most red states? You ever see most war blogger sites? The anti-Infidel holier than though Christians? Some like RS McCain? Most are laced with soft porn and “hot babe shots.” They’re a bunch of wankers like most men but would never admit to it in public.

43 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:20:55pm

re: #38 Weet

Already been reported that he lied about his education and they knew it. They let it slide.

That isn’t going to impress the jury when USIS (or better yet, its executive) are facing charges.

Back in the day, lying about anything was the easiest way to fail a security clearance. What kind of morons have been put in charge of this, anyway?

44 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:22:54pm

re: #42 Gus

I think that’s already been proven. Wasn’t the highest in Utah and most red states? You ever see most war blogger sites? The anti-Infidel holier than though Christians? Some like RS McCain? Most are laced with soft porn and “hot babe shots.” They’re a bunch of wankers like most men but would never admit to it in public.

Of course its true, but I’m sure the so-con leaders are in denial about it (since their own porn stashes are deep, dark secrets). To have proof of this come to them from GOP sources would be very entertaining.

45 Gus  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:25:56pm

re: #44 EPR-radar

Of course its true, but I’m sure the so-con leaders are in denial about it (since their own porn stashes are deep, dark secrets). To have proof of this come to them from GOP sources would be very entertaining.

Yeah, Republicans are either celibate or practice abstinence and only get laid when its involves adding a new child to the family. Uh huh.

46 Patricia Kayden  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:26:15pm

re: #3 Kragar

My biggest data point: I won’t vote for a fucking Republican.

They can skip my household too. We’re all Dems — including the two dogs and three parrots.

47 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:27:14pm

Pennsylvania Republican silences gay lawmaker for ‘open rebellion against’ God

State Rep. Brian Sims (D-Philadelphia) had attempted to commemorate the Supreme Court’s landmark marriage rulings during the unanimous consent portion of the House session. His speech, however, was shut down by state Rep. Daryl Metcalfe (R-Butler) using a procedural maneuver.

“I did not believe that as a member of that body that I should allow someone to make comments such as he was preparing to make that ultimately were just open rebellion against what the word of God has said, what God has said, and just open rebellion against God’s law,” Metcalfe explained to NewsWorks.

On Thursday, however, Sims took his “open rebellion against” against God a step further. He and state Rep. Steve McCarter (D-Montgomery) introduced legislation to provide civil marriage equality for same-sex couples in Pennsylvania.

48 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:27:17pm

re: #41 Joanne

Thanks.

Please do note: Many wingnuts throw that term around somewhat loosely. My oen definition of ‘Tranzi’ is a very tight one and I only use it in cases of clear disloyalty.

49 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:29:05pm

re: #47 Kragar

Pennsylvania Republican silences gay lawmaker for ‘open rebellion against’ God

“I did not believe that as a member of that body that I should allow someone to make comments such as he was preparing to make that ultimately were just open rebellion against what the word of God has said, what God has said, and just open rebellion against God’s law,” Metcalfe explained to NewsWorks.

Mr. Metcalfe ought to move to Iran, where such thought is the norm in government.

50 engineer cat  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:30:33pm

and how does karl rove have anything like credibility after 2012?

51 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:30:56pm

re: #49 Dark_Falcon

Mr. Metcalfe ought to move to Iran, where such thought is the norm in government.

On a related note, non-theocratic members of the GOP need to get serious about dealing with the infestation of theocrats in the GOP. Hoping for their self-deportation to Iran is probably unrealistic.

52 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:31:06pm
53 engineer cat  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:32:01pm

this is actually just a wingnut version of eharmony

54 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:34:19pm

re: #39 EPR-radar

Wouldn’t it be hilarious if the GOP’s own data mining showed a positive correlation between online porn viewing (especially the harder core stuff) and tendency to vote GOP.

If so, I’d love to hear the conversation where the quants bring this data to the attention of Huckabee, Santorum et al.

I don’t need data mining.

I have a friend who was a hotel manager. Every time there was a gathering of ‘conservatives’ in his hotel the hotel’s income from the adult channels went through the roof. Double that for evangelicals.

55 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:35:49pm

re: #54 Romantic Heretic

I don’t need data mining.

I have a friend who was a hotel manager. Every time there was a gathering of ‘conservatives’ in his hotel the hotel’s income from the adult channels went through the roof. Double that for evangelicals.

Of course, such pertinent real-world facts do not exist in the tiny minds of the
RWNJs.

56 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:36:12pm

re: #54 Romantic Heretic

I don’t need data mining.

I have a friend who was a hotel manager. Every time there was a gathering of ‘conservatives’ in his hotel the hotel’s income from the adult channels went through the roof. Double that for evangelicals.

It’s all just research. And the increased consumption of kleenex and hand lotion had to do with a epidemic of head colds and dry skin.
//

57 freetoken  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:36:21pm

re: #47 Kragar

Pennsylvania Republican silences gay lawmaker for ‘open rebellion against’ God

“Party of God”, indeed.

58 freetoken  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:37:35pm

re: #1 Vicious Babushka

They didn’t develop this algorithm, they bought it from some targeted marketing company.

… who are laughing all the way to the bank.

59 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:38:17pm

re: #42 Gus

I think that’s already been proven. Wasn’t the highest in Utah and most red states? You ever see most war blogger sites? The anti-Infidel holier than though Christians? Some like RS McCain? Most are laced with soft porn and “hot babe shots.” They’re a bunch of wankers like most men but would never admit to it in public.

Yes, it’s been proven. Utah is the biggest consumer of on line porn.

60 engineer cat  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:39:11pm

re: #54 Romantic Heretic

I don’t need data mining.

I have a friend who was a hotel manager. Every time there was a gathering of ‘conservatives’ in his hotel the hotel’s income from the adult channels went through the roof. Double that for evangelicals.

considering that it’s well know that forbidding something only adds a layer of delicious temptation to anything, it follows that fundies and wingnuts live in a world full of delightfully inviting forbidden pleasures that us more relaxed types are cut off from

61 Stanghazi  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:40:05pm

OT Stanley here, but


If ever I thought myself objective and unbiased, the George Zimmerman trial is definitely not that moment.

So let’s cut to the chase. Any attorney, jury member, judge or white person in that courtroom is not going to understand Rachel Jeantel. And I don’t expect them to.

In fact, I certainly, like my fellow writer Rachel Samara, understand why white people wouldn’t like Rachel.

She’s hard. She’s black. And your assumptions about her background and lack of education make you feel like you are better, somehow. That her testimony, no matter how powerful and impactful it may be to this trial, is implausible. Weak, maybe? Let’s impeach her.

Read more: globalgrind.com

62 wheat-dogghazi  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:41:33pm

re: #47 Kragar

Someone needs to remind Metcalfe that he’s a legislator in a government assembly, not a pastor in a religious assembly.

63 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:41:54pm

So tired of the GOP

Youtube Video

64 Gus  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:44:58pm
65 Gus  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:45:59pm
66 Patricia Kayden  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:46:05pm

re: #52 Vicious Babushka

Read about that on a Black website. Too bad that she’s being demonized when she probably cannot help how she speaks. I gather that she’s not well educated, but so what? I work in a setting where I see nervous witnesses all the time. It’s not easy to get up in front of people and answer tough questions.

67 Gus  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:47:05pm

Mini-Chavez

68 Stanghazi  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:47:14pm

re: #61 Stanghazi

When asked why she omitted the words “creepy ass cracker” and “nigga” when speaking in front of Sybrina Fulton about her son’s last moments, she simply told the court that she didn’t want to disrespect her.

As West looked at her in utter disbelief, Rachel looked back, unwavering. How could he not understand that she couldn’t bring herself to upset someone who had just lost a child? Better yet, curse in front of adults.

Note: Disrespect to elders in the black and especially Caribbean communities is almost as bad as cursing the Lord.

Read more: globalgrind.com

69 freetoken  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:47:51pm

re: #66 Patricia Kayden

Performance Jurisprudence - every witness has to be a potential reality TV star.

70 Stanghazi  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:49:36pm

Blah blah blah justice.

71 Patricia Kayden  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:50:27pm

re: #47 Kragar

Unbelievable. Is Pennsylvania a theocracy now?

72 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:50:37pm

re: #66 Patricia Kayden

Read about that on a Black website. Too bad that she’s being demonized when she probably cannot help how she speaks. I gather that she’s not well educated, but so what? I work in a setting where I see nervous witnesses all the time. It’s not easy to get up in front of people and answer tough questions.

And skilled trial lawyers are experts at undermining a nervous witness.

73 Shockingly, Pathetically Low  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:54:18pm

re: #68 Stanghazi

When asked why she omitted the words “creepy ass cracker” and “nigga” when speaking in front of Sybrina Fulton about her son’s last moments, she simply told the court that she didn’t want to disrespect her.

As West looked at her in utter disbelief, Rachel looked back, unwavering. How could he not understand that she couldn’t bring herself to upset someone who had just lost a child? Better yet, curse in front of adults.

Note: Disrespect to elders in the black and especially Caribbean communities is almost as bad as cursing the Lord.

Remember, this is the guy who started a murder trial with a knock-knock joke.

74 engineer cat  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:54:29pm

but remember that us denizens of this site tend to be college educated types, so we don’t share the same reaction that people who are insecure about their education have - often people like that sympathize deeply with a not very educated person being humiliated by a smart ass lawyer

i think the defense is screwing the pooch

75 Gus  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:54:34pm

re: #70 Stanghazi

Blah blah blah justice.

Apparently a new discovery for dudebros.

76 justaminute  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:58:36pm

re: #72 Dark_Falcon

And skilled trial lawyers are experts at undermining a nervous witness.

I took a few minutes to read about Rachel, English is not her first language, it’s French Creole, Spanish and then English. Three, count them, three languages. She’s slow and halting to think about how she answers.

Frankly as married to some one who barely spoke English but was still going to University here in the US, judging a 19 year old girl while she is in a high profile trial that didn’t really want to be there, I think she is doing great.

77 Oggie Ben Doggie  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:04:07pm

I have not taken any special measures to hide from Rove’s apparatus. What data they have on me, they also have my past support for the GOP. And they have the data I have volunteered to GOP organizations, again, and again, about my desire to see the GOP cut out the batshit crazy.

And yet, not only do they indulge in teh batshit, they continue to market teh batshit to me personally.

Their algos suck.

78 Stanghazi  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:04:59pm

re: #76 justaminute

I took a few minutes to read about Rachel, English is not her first language, it’s French Creole, Spanish and then English. Three, count them, three languages. She’s slow and halting to think about how she answers.

Frankly as married to some one who barely spoke English but was still going to University here in the US, judging a 19 year old girl while she is in a high profile trial that didn’t really want to be there, I think she is doing great.

But but! :-)

79 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:07:15pm

re: #74 engineer cat

I don’t mind people being smarter than me. Hell, I admit that, when I am in the right place mentally to find a lady, I want someone who is smart and feisty. Life is funner that way.

80 freetoken  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:10:06pm

On a theology professor’s website, who happens to teach for Mullah Mohler, where said professor wrote an entry about the coming victimization of Christians at the hand of of gay marriage supporters who lack “magnanimity”, I left a reply questioning some of his assertions.

It is “awaiting moderation” - where it’s been all day. It’ll likely stay there. Now, he has a thing against pseudonyms so that’ll probably be the excuse if I ask him, but it’s also true that his commenters rarely confront him on his assertions, which are the usual you’d expect from a SoCon literalist.

I think I need to write a Page on “epistemic bubbles” and gay sex.

81 justaminute  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:14:46pm

re: #78 Stanghazi

I met my husband while I was a court clerk. People with a mastery of English may come off completely different when they are in a high profile case and they are the defense’s star witness. As a friend of the deceased and young and under the US micro scope, gad, she’s holding her own with a Defense attorney that is throwing the kitchen sink at her. If it was me, on the last day of my testimony, I would walk past him with some choice words in Creole.

82 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:17:14pm

re: #81 justaminute

Preferably ones calling him a racist cockmonger.

83 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:17:16pm

OT-But very funny

Eminem Terrified As Daughter Begins Dating Man Raised On His Music

ROCHESTER, MI—Hip-hop artist Marshall Mathers, a.k.a. Eminem, said he was left wholly terrified today after meeting his daughter Hailie’s new boyfriend Justin Denham, an 18-year-old who was reportedly raised on the rapper’s music.

theonion.com

84 Stanghazi  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:18:01pm

re: #81 justaminute

I met my husband while I was a court clerk. People with a mastery of English may come off completely different when they are in a high profile case and they are the defense’s star witness. As a friend of the deceased and young and under the US micro scope, gad, she’s holding her own with a Defense attorney that is throwing the kitchen sink at her. If it was me, on the last day of my testimony, I would walk past him with some choice words in Creole.

Basically until she can fade away or change her name, her fault at being a witness to a death will hurt her. I hate this & want live feed of the creole quote tyvm.

85 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:19:23pm

re: #72 Dark_Falcon

A nervous 19 year old girl who didn’t want to do thus, who, based on what she said (and implied yesterday) feels guilty about being the last person to talk to someone she cared for a lot. A girl who lives in the projects (Miami Gardens is not too nice). A girl from a completely different culture.

This trial infuriates me. Zimmerman murdered a teenage boy for no reason whatsoever, except for his own bias and fear. I have zero compassion for him. None.

86 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:20:00pm

re: #82 ProTARDISLiberal

Preferably ones calling him a racist cockmonger.

It seems to me that a good defense attorney knows how to be a bastard in order to win.

87 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:24:18pm

re: #86 moderatelyradicalliberal

It seems to me that a good defense attorney knows how to be a bastard in order to win.

That’s true, but it remains to be seen if Don West is good. He goofed with the opening statement, and I don’t think it wise to go after a girl when the jury is full of women.

88 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:25:25pm

re: #87 Dark_Falcon

I’m less than impressed with West as an attorney. O’Mara is much better.

89 Gus  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:26:23pm

I’m not even following the trial. Tid bits.

90 Stanghazi  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:27:55pm

G A H

I want to keep this system. It’s the right system. But something is being lost when, as part of system, witnesses are crucified. I’m not an objective viewer. I’ve been happy when witnesses for the other side of whatever are put to task. But Rachel’s HAIR! Her damned speaking we cannot understand! Not like us is the undercurrent of this case.

91 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:28:55pm

re: #88 Joanne

I’m less than impressed with West as an attorney. O’Mara is much better.

Do remember though that you’ve pretty much made up your mind on the case and that is likely influencing your impression of it.

92 justaminute  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:29:55pm

They keep talking about the word ‘cracker.’ This was a discussion between two black teenager’s when one was being pursued. That was light language, as far as I would probably have used if someone was following me down a street on a rainy dark evening and I was alone.

93 jaunte  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:31:09pm

re: #92 justaminute

False equivalence, trying to paint the victim as the racist perpetrator.

94 freetoken  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:31:14pm

re: #92 justaminute

Don’t your realize that what your report means all blacks are indeed racists and therefore Zimmerman is innocent and Obama and his supporters are the real racists?

95 justaminute  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:31:17pm

re: #90 Stanghazi

G A H

I want to keep this system. It’s the right system. But something is being lost when, as part of system, witnesses are crucified. I’m not an objective viewer. I’ve been happy when witnesses for the other side of whatever are put to task. But Rachel’s HAIR! Her damned speaking we cannot understand! Not like us is the undercurrent of this case.

Exactly!

96 Stanghazi  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:32:22pm

re: #92 justaminute

They keep talking about the word ‘cracker.’ This was a discussion between two black teenager’s when one was being pursued. That was light language, as far as I would probably have used if someone was following me down a street on a rainy dark evening and I was alone.

Oooga booga racist slur! NPR warned about language on the radio. cracker was it. I laughed.

Maybe my dad or his neighbs in SC will object.

97 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:32:39pm

re: #90 Stanghazi

G A H

I want to keep this system. It’s the right system. But something is being lost when, as part of system, witnesses are crucified. I’m not an objective viewer. I’ve been happy when witnesses for the other side of whatever are put to task. But Rachel’s HAIR! Her damned speaking we cannot understand! Not like us is the undercurrent of this case.

I’m sorry but on this I have to say “T’was ever thus.” Verbally smacking witnesses around is a part of the legal system here and it pretty much has always been that way.

98 justaminute  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:34:06pm

re: #94 freetoken

Don’t your realize that what your report means all blacks are indeed racists and therefore Zimmerman is innocent and Obama and his supporters are the real racists?

Really, I think political correctness by young black kids especially when one ends up dead is the last thing that I would hold against them.

99 Stanghazi  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:35:07pm

re: #97 Dark_Falcon

I’m sorry but on this I have to say “T’was ever thus.” Verbally smacking witnesses around is a part of the legal system here and it pretty much has always been that way.

It hurts tho

100 bratwurst  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:35:46pm

re: #94 freetoken

Don’t your realize that what your report means all blacks are indeed racists and therefore Zimmerman is innocent and Obama and his supporters are the real racists?

This is really feeding into the bizarre mentality of the idiots who seem to consider anti-white racism an enormous problem in this country. I am ignoring the trial as much as possible and have been maddened by how much time CNN is giving it.

101 justaminute  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:36:19pm

I married a Iranian during the Iran hostage crisis. Considering how we were treated by white Americans, ‘cracker’ would be nice.

102 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:36:34pm

re: #91 Dark_Falcon

Do remember though that you’ve pretty much made up your mind on the case and that is likely influencing your impression of it.

No. My ex is a criminal defense attorney. I’ve seen good attorneys. I’ve seen bad attorneys (and judges). West is not a good criminal defense attorney.

And yes, I’ve made up my mind. I’m on the dead kid’s side.

103 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:37:14pm

re: #100 bratwurst

This is really feeding into the bizarre mentality of the idiots who seem to consider anti-white racism an enormous problem in this country. I am ignoring the trial as much as possible and have been maddened by how much time CNN is giving it.

Nancy Grace is out of missing white girls.

104 efuseakay  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:37:39pm

So, Republicans are against data mining in the name if national security (when there’s a black Democrat President), but they are ok with using information about us that they have obtained without our permission/knowledge, just so they can try to keep their jobs?

105 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:39:46pm

re: #103 Decatur Deb

Nancy Grace is out of missing white girls.

Is Grace on this case? What’s she saying? (I loathe her, but I’m curious is Zimmerman the next Casey Anthony or Jodi Whatshername? Or is Trayvon a thug?)

106 Joanne  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:41:13pm

re: #104 efuseakay

So, Republicans are against data mining in the name if national security (when there’s a black Democrat President), but they are ok with using information about us that they have obtained without our permission/knowledge, just so they can try to keep their jobs?

EVERYTHING the GOP does is nothing but for keeping their jobs. Governing means nothing to them.

107 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:41:30pm

re: #105 Joanne

Is Grace on this case? What’s she saying? (I loathe her, but I’m curious is Zimmerman the next Casey Anthony or Jodi Whatshername? Or is Trayvon a thug?)

Keep a sick-sack handy:

nancygrace.blogs.cnn.com

108 Higgs Boson's Mate  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:42:14pm

All of those lovely, lovely data points. “…what’s important to you and how do you think about things, what will motivate you.” Yes, we’ll determine what’s important to you and then we’ll ignore that in our March to the Middle Ages. We’ll find out how you think about things but, god knows we won’t have the first idea of what to do with that because thinking is anti-Republican. We’ll collect data on what will motivate you and then we’ll go for the lowest common denominator. Because that’s how we roll.

109 bratwurst  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:42:47pm

re: #103 Decatur Deb

Nancy Grace is out of missing white girls.

I just wish they would quarantine her and this trial on HLN and leave one channel for, you know, NEWS. Obviously, there is hardly any news to be had on Fox News, even during “news” hours in the daytime…and I have hardly spent more than a few minutes at a time on MSNBC since Chris Hayes compared Snowden to Martin Luther King. It would be really nice if there were a TV channel you could turn on and learn what is going on in the wide world.

110 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:44:27pm

re: #109 bratwurst

I just wish they would quarantine her and this trial on HLN and leave one channel for, you know, NEWS. Obviously, there is hardly any news to be had on Fox News, even during “news” hours in the daytime…and I have hardly spent more than a few minutes at a time on MSNBC since Chris Hayes compared Snowden to Martin Luther King. It would be really nice if there were a TV channel you could turn on and learn what is going on in the wide world.

There’s always Vatican Radio.

en.radiovaticana.va

111 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:46:47pm

About to get clobbered by a storm. Nite, all.

112 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:47:38pm

re: #99 Stanghazi

It hurts tho

I know, but it’s a murder trial. When the question is if a man was justified in shooting a teenager dead, hurt feelings aren’t a significant concern.

113 darthstar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:50:59pm

Hey everyone…it was surf movie night at the local bar…some local surfers and filmmakers went to Hawaii, Mexico, and Tahiti and made a 40 minute film called “Forecast: Barrels” - all big wave stuff…some pretty good stuff, but the real fun was the fact that the place was packed with locals and pretty much everyone knew everyone else…definitely a small-community family vibe. We’re still pretty new to the area(2.5 years) but were welcomed with open arms.

114 BigPapa  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:52:53pm

pop any fat wines?

115 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:54:50pm


Hardcore douche nozzle

116 Ming  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:54:50pm

Since World War II., the presidency has gone back and forth between Democrats and Republicans, every 4 or 8 years, except for 1980 - 1992, when the Republicans had it for 12 years. One explanation is that after 8 years, voters are tired of one party, and vote for the other party.

Think about it: after Roosevelt and Truman (D), 8 years of Eisenhower (R). Then, 8 years of Kennedy and Johnson (D). Then, 8 years of Nixon and Ford (R). Then, 4 years of Carter (D). Then, 12 years of Reagan and Bush (R). Then, 8 years of Clinton (D), 8 years of Bush (R), and so far, 8 years of Obama (D). You can see the “back and forth”.

I’m not happy about the above pattern, because it may work in the Republicans’ favor in 2016. On the other hand, the Republicans have offended so many people who aren’t white and male, they may have an overwhelming demographic disadvantage. Here’s hoping the D’s keep the White House.

117 jaunte  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:56:39pm

re: #115 Kragar

I’m libertarian on economics, but a social conservative.

So, a privileged white dope.

118 Stanghazi  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:58:23pm

Count the racism you see. I’m white, most of us are. My across the way neighbor was just evicted due to excessive who knows what. Of course I don’t have the whole story, people lie etc. But the main complainer, did not in my casual view, like that she was black. Actually us crackers got a complaint Nov 6. We were celebrating too loud. (We will never forget this, it’s our common laugh)

119 Varek Raith  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:58:32pm

re: #115 Kragar

Hardcore douche nozzle

14.

120 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 9:01:45pm

re: #116 Ming

Since World War II., the presidency has gone back and forth between Democrats and Republicans, every 4 or 8 years, except for 1980 - 1992, when the Republicans had it for 12 years. One explanation is that after 8 years, voters are tired of one party, and vote for the other party.

Think about it: after Roosevelt and Truman (D), 8 years of Eisenhower (R). Then, 8 years of Kennedy and Johnson (D). Then, 8 years of Nixon and Ford (R). Then, 4 years of Carter (D). Then, 12 years of Reagan and Bush (R). Then, 8 years of Clinton (D), 8 years of Bush (R), and so far, 8 years of Obama (D). You can see the “back and forth”.

I’m not happy about the above pattern, because it may work in the Republicans’ favor in 2016. On the other hand, the Republicans have offended so many people who aren’t white and male, they may have an overwhelming demographic disadvantage. Here’s hoping the D’s keep the White House.

History suggests that if the Democrats keep the White House in 2016, whoever them elect is likely to lose in 2020. America tends not to like having one party in power for too long.

121 freetoken  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 9:02:10pm

re: #116 Ming

The twentieth century saw a transition of the two major political parties. From 1932 until the “Southern Strategy” of Nixon there was an unsteady transition of the GOP from being progressive (what little remained after TR bolted) to being reactionary, and the Democrats transitioned from being the confederacy into a socialist influenced modernist party. Carter and Reagan were the capstones of this transition for each party, each of them embodying themselves this transition.

Today we live in the age of hyper-cynicism and the ascent of the Advertising Age to the throne. Today politics is about immediately satiating basic emotions through high tech, forcing imagery and words into each home, screen, and phone, suited for the purpose of whoever is funding the operation.

The US is too big to be done in by any outside agent, so we’ll just dither here for the next century or so, until the current arrangement of life becomes untenable (probably from exhausted fossil fuel sources and dried out and wasted farmland), and a new age will come and the old will pass away.

122 darthstar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 9:04:30pm

re: #114 BigPapa

pop any fat wines?

Bourbon and beer night. ;)

123 engineer cat  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 9:08:06pm

Bryan Fischer @BryanJFischer

I’m a “medium-core libertarian.” Scored 70 out of 160. I’m libertarian on economics, but a social conservative

and i give you 110% rating as a moron!

no, make that 200%

124 prairiefire  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 9:13:33pm

Wow!! “Thunder & Lightning, oh yeah!” radar.weather.gov

I told my husband that the thunder bolt I saw through the skylight had not actually killed me. He was relieved. Such paperwork!

125 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 9:16:37pm

re: #119 Varek Raith

14.

I got a 10. You nutball.

126 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 9:21:59pm

John Oliver on GOP reaction to gay marriage: What is it with these people and animals?

Republicans always seemed to arrive at the same point when discussing same-sex marriage: bestiality. Oliver couldn’t help but express his bewilderment with the “definitely not perverted brains” of Republicans. “What is it with these people and animals?” he wondered.

127 stabby  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 9:23:31pm

re: #10 austin_blue

These people are stone cold idiots when it comes to social media.

You ended that sentence with several unnecessary words.

128 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 9:27:10pm

Greenwald cultists aren’t just weird. They’re also creepy as fuck.

littlegreenfootballs.com

129 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 9:28:41pm

Indiana Woman Shoots Leopard in Her Backyard (VIDEO)

WDRB 41 Louisville - News, Weather, Sports Community

130 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 9:30:57pm

re: #128 Charles Johnson

Greenwald cultists aren’t just weird. They’re also creepy as fuck.

littlegreenfootballs.com

Dead Tread Rat Trolls. Obnoxious little fuckers, aren’t they?

131 freetoken  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 9:32:32pm

re: #128 Charles Johnson

The Ghost of Ron Paul.

132 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 9:34:29pm

re: #131 freetoken

The Ghost of Ron Paul.

No, that was ‘earthanimal’ who got ‘ghosted’ when Charles ban-hammered his troll ass!

133 stabby  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 9:35:55pm

re: #128 Charles Johnson

Some libertarians are deeply weird people who think that “property” is at the root of 100% of rights. They sit around and argue about whether a man has the right to sell himself into slavery (they would say “yes”) and about whether this makes their children slaves etc.

They strike me as being weirdos who have little more than a rainman level understanding of humanity and rely on a single simplified bad principle.

134 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 9:37:38pm

THIS is a knife.

135 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 9:44:50pm

re: #134 Dark_Falcon

THIS is a knife.

More of a sword.

136 wheat-dogghazi  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 9:46:29pm

re: #134 Dark_Falcon

THIS is a knife.

You need to link to Crocodile Dundee, mate.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLS3RGesIFQ‎

137 Ming  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 9:49:25pm

re: #85 Joanne

Zimmerman murdered a teenage boy for no reason whatsoever, except for his own bias and fear.

It’s on tape: Zimmerman was told repeatedly by the 911 operator, “do not follow him [Trayvon Martin].” By following, and following, and following, Zimmerman created the entire tragedy, from start to finish.

138 jaunte  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 9:49:34pm

This is a nice knife:
powning.com

139 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 9:54:05pm

re: #138 jaunte

This is a nice knife:
powning.com

More of a fan of Falcatas.

Image: Falcata.jpg

140 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 9:59:12pm

Report: Former Top General Under Investigation For Leaking Classified Information

Retired Marine Gen. James “Hoss” Cartwright is the subject of a Justice Department investigation into an alleged leak of classified information about a U.S. cyber attack on Iran’s nuclear program, NBC News reported Thursday.

Cartwright, the former second-highest ranking U.S. military officer, allegedly leaked the information to The New York Times, which reported on the program that was first ordered under President Bush and accelerated under President Obama’s administration.

Youtube Video

141 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 9:59:21pm

re: #126 Kragar

John Oliver on GOP reaction to gay marriage: What is it with these people and animals?

They do arrive at that point a lot. Frankly creepy if you ask me.

142 Kragar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 10:04:49pm

re: #141 HappyWarrior

They do arrive at that point a lot. Frankly creepy if you ask me.

Comes from growing up on a farm I guess.
///

143 darthstar  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 10:06:30pm

Okay…this 15 year old is talented. She’s well produced, too, but if this song is her own doing she’s going to be a household name in a few years.

Youtube Video

144 prairiefire  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 10:18:10pm

re: #76 justaminute

Wow, I’m so glad you are here despite the storms in your area! I think you were interviewed, did you get stuck in the traffic? The name sounded like it was yours. Take shelter in a Sonic, or something? {{{JAM}}}

145 freetoken  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 10:19:47pm

MP3 Audio

146 prairiefire  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 10:20:09pm

re: #143 darthstar

Okay…this 15 year old is talented. She’s well produced, too, but if this song is her own doing she’s going to be a household name in a few years.

Oh my gosh, completely agree!

147 wheat-dogghazi  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 10:28:41pm

Are any lizards in the Galveston area? One of my students in China is working at the Whitewater amusement park there for the summer

148 prairiefire  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 10:46:24pm

Lorde ~ The Love Club ~ Youtube Video

149 freetoken  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:18:05pm

So much has happened in 4 days : VRA ruling, Texas abortion fiasco, DOMA and Prop 8 rulings, and now the Zimmerman trial - I don’t think we have had time to really digest it all.

It has pushed Snowjob off the top of the heap of hot items, at least for most people.

150 freetoken  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:21:19pm

This goes out to a wild political week:

MP3 Audio

151 wheat-dogghazi  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:31:16pm

re: #148 prairiefire

She’s a Kiwi! And in her last year of high school. noisey.vice.com

152 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:39:46pm

re: #149 freetoken

So much has happened in 4 days : VRA ruling, Texas abortion fiasco, DOMA and Prop 8 rulings, and now the Zimmerman trial - I don’t think we have had time to really digest it all.

It has pushed Snowjob off the top of the heap of hot items, at least for most people.

The Snowden “affair” is largely following the course of the previous “scandals” in that it’s losing staying power with each passing week. Perhaps because this has seemingly ceased to be about a upstanding citizen finding something he didn’t approve of and become instead another round of Wikileaks.

153 PeterWolf  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:57:18pm

Why worry about the NSA with the Republicans data mining you :)

154 wheat-dogghazi  Thu, Jun 27, 2013 11:59:08pm

The Republicans checked my data points, and the three numbers they got were 666. Should I be worried?

155 Kragar  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 12:44:22am

re: #154 wheat-dogghazi

The Republicans checked my data points, and the three numbers they got were 666. Should I be worried?

No, you should be rocking.

Youtube Video

156 Amory Blaine  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 12:46:36am

Bill introduced to regulate men’s reproductive health

Before getting a prescription for Viagra or other erectile dysfunction drugs, men would have to see a sex therapist, receive a cardiac stress test and get a notarized affidavit signed by a sexual partner affirming impotency, if state Sen. Nina Turner has her way.
The Cleveland Democrat introduced Senate Bill 307 this week.
…

Under Senate Bill 307, men taking the drugs would continue to be tested for heart problems, receive counseling about possible side effects and receive information about “pursuing celibacy as a viable lifestyle choice.”
“Even the FDA recommends that doctors make sure that assessments are taken that target the nature of the symptoms, whether it’s physical or psychological,” Turner said. “I certainly want to stand up for men’s health and take this seriously and legislate it the same way mostly men say they want to legislate a woman’s womb.”

157 Amory Blaine  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 12:57:49am
158 sagehen  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 2:00:11am

re: #156 Amory Blaine

Bill introduced to regulate men’s reproductive health

She’s introduced this bill several times already… I’ve seen her doing TV interviews about it, she’s got the most amazing/amusing deadpan delivery as she explains her deep-seated concern for the well-being of men who may be too emotional to make informed decisions without government intrusion into their doctor/patient dealings… she just loves men so much and wants them to be healthy and safe.

159 Kragar  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 2:08:10am

Monsignor Nunzio Scarano held in Vatican bank inquiry

A senior Italian cleric has been arrested in connection with an inquiry into the Vatican bank scandal over allegations of corruption and fraud.

Monsignor Nunzio Scarano works in the Vatican’s financial administration. A secret service agent and a financial broker have also been arrested.

They are suspected of trying to move 20m euros illegally into Italy.

Pope Francis ordered an unprecedented internal investigation into the bank’s affairs in the wake of recent scandal

160 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 2:08:22am

re: #155 Kragar

Thanks! But “the uploader has not made this video available in your country.” Fortunately, I know the song.
Rock on

161 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 2:35:24am

re: #159 Kragar

Wow. Now, if they can actually get a conviction, then things will really change.

162 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 2:46:08am

OT, but a glimpse into the sheeple mind.

After viewing a Blue Angels vid on YouTube, I glanced at the comments. This rube posted this yesterday:

bobelayer 23 hours ago
Too bad the dumbass in the White House grounded the Blue Angels and the Thunder birds by freaking putting budget cuts on the military. Seriously quit being a bitch and cut taxes.

So many levels of wrong there.

163 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 4:35:46am

Information wants to be free cheap!!!

WikiLeaks Volunteer Was a Paid Informant for the FBI

wired.com

164 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 4:41:21am
165 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 4:42:06am

re: #163 Decatur Deb

And Anonymous failed to hack North Korea.

Seriously, though, that story reminds me of the recruiting problem people like Assange have: those willing to work in that area are likely to be highly odd.

166 A Mom Anon  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 4:45:20am

re: #52 Vicious Babushka

That should be all over TV and the newspapers, it’s beautifully written.

I knew as soon as I saw and heard her that a shitstorm of nastiness would come seeping out from under all sorts of rocks. I hope that after all this mess the media and the haters just leave the kid alone. She’s been through enough. She also sounds like a really good friend.

167 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 4:49:28am

re: #165 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

And Anonymous failed to hack North Korea.

Seriously, though, that story reminds me of the recruiting problem people like Assange have: those willing to work in that area are likely to be highly odd.

Wikileaks should be proud of him. Transparency and all, y’know.

168 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 4:52:20am

re: #166 A Mom Anon

That should be all over TV and the newspapers, it’s beautifully written.

I knew as soon as I saw and heard her that a shitstorm of nastiness would come seeping out from under all sorts of rocks. I hope that after all this mess the media and the haters just leave the kid alone. She’s been through enough. She also sounds like a really good friend.

Too bad about the shitty web design, so 1998.

Rachel Jeantel is getting pounded not only because she is poor and black but also because she is FAT. That makes her inferior to a normal human and therefore she can be mocked and ridiculed. Because, you understand, people can’t control the color of their skin “but they can control the fork and knife!”

169 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 5:17:51am

re: #83 moderatelyradicalliberal

OT-But very funny

Eminem Terrified As Daughter Begins Dating Man Raised On His Music

theonion.com

The scariest thing for any father is that his daughter will meet a man that was just like the father was when he was that age.

170 Sionainn  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 5:33:17am

re: #87 Dark_Falcon

That’s true, but it remains to be seen if Don West is good. He goofed with the opening statement, and I don’t think it wise to go after a girl when the jury is full of women.

My dad and I were watching West badger Rachel Jeantel yesterday and were appalled at just how bad he is. It’s not just a woman thing.

171 Eventual Carrion  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 5:43:16am

re: #27 Joanne

re: #25 Dark_Falcon

I’m livid they’re giving them a chance to show improvements. Fuck. That.

If there are not dire consequences for fucking over a customer as large as the government, everyone is going to take shortcuts.

Fuck. This.

They didn’t fire the contractors that electrocuted our troops. Contractors don’t give a fuck about anything but making money. Fuck the troops, fuck the people of the US, just give us our inflated checks (and we will kick back a little to you politicians that make this possible, sshhhh).

172 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 5:47:42am

Just saw this comment at another web site and wanted to share with the other guys -

“Nothing blows away the myth of Intelligent Design like your first prostate exam.”

O_o

173 A Mom Anon  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 5:48:15am

re: #171 Eventual Carrion

The only people who benefit from this system are politicians (who it turns out are remarkably cheap dates in many cases), the contracting firms and the private equity firms that own them. Everyone else? Not so much.

174 Ian G.  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 5:49:51am
how likely are you to vote, how persuadable are you

I’ll save them the trouble. I’m very likely to vote, and my response to the idea that I’d be persuadable by the GOP has the words “snowball” and “hell” in it.

175 Eventual Carrion  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 5:49:52am

re: #57 freetoken

“Party of God”, indeed.

The lord uses the good ones
and the bad ones use the lord.
- Michael Stanley

176 kirkspencer  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 5:51:27am

re: #116 Ming

Since World War II., the presidency has gone back and forth between Democrats and Republicans, every 4 or 8 years, except for 1980 - 1992, when the Republicans had it for 12 years. One explanation is that after 8 years, voters are tired of one party, and vote for the other party.

Think about it: after Roosevelt and Truman (D), 8 years of Eisenhower (R). Then, 8 years of Kennedy and Johnson (D). Then, 8 years of Nixon and Ford (R). Then, 4 years of Carter (D). Then, 12 years of Reagan and Bush (R). Then, 8 years of Clinton (D), 8 years of Bush (R), and so far, 8 years of Obama (D). You can see the “back and forth”.

I’m not happy about the above pattern, because it may work in the Republicans’ favor in 2016. On the other hand, the Republicans have offended so many people who aren’t white and male, they may have an overwhelming demographic disadvantage. Here’s hoping the D’s keep the White House.

a) too small a sample size to make such declarations;
b) Why do you ignore pre-WWII? The Democratic-Republican party held the presidency from 1801 through 1829, through four presidents. (Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, JQ Adams.)

177 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 5:52:05am

re: #174 Ian G.

I’ll save them the trouble. I’m very likely to vote, and my response to the idea that I’d be persuadable by the GOP has the words “snowball” and “hell” in it.

Couldn’t we save the TPGOP a lot of time if we just gave them an LGF account?

178 darthstar  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:10:54am

Mornin’ everyone.

179 lawhawk  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:11:31am

Heh


Oh, what a way to start the morning….

180 darthstar  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:12:35am

re: #179 lawhawk

Heh


Oh, what a way to start the morning….

Just a little reminder that it’s been a big week, but it ain’t over yet. Ha!

181 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:17:21am
182 darthstar  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:18:52am

re: #179 lawhawk

Actually, daddy also says that he’d come back to the US if he could keep his internet access and wasn’t thrown in jail right away. That struck me as an odd request. And he’s sent terms to Holder stating as much.

183 geoffm33  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:19:09am

re: #181 Vicious Babushka

IMPEACH!!!! ///

184 darthstar  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:21:35am

re: #181 Vicious Babushka

I don’t think he would have said, “I don’t need a photo op with Mandela” - probably something more along the lines of “Nelson Mandela needs to spend this time with his family, and I don’t need to interfere with that with a photo-op.”

I’ve seen Obama misquoted enough to know what I think he said is probably closer to the tape, which will be out in a few days once the scandal is big enough.

185 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:22:24am

re: #184 darthstar

I don’t think he would have said, “I don’t need a photo op with Mandela” - probably something more along the lines of “Nelson Mandela needs to spend this time with his family, and I don’t need to interfere with that with a photo-op.”

I’ve seen Obama misquoted enough to know what I think he said is probably closer to the tape, which will be out in a few days once the scandal is big enough.

186 lawhawk  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:22:41am

re: #180 darthstar

Here in NYC, they’re gearing up for one huge bash. The West Village is going to be painted in rainbow colors and Edith Windsor will be treated as conquering hero at the Gay Pride Events going on starting today and running through the weekend.

It’s going to be real, fabulous, and spectacular. As it should be. They’ve got a whole lot to celebrate (though the work isn’t done yet).

Ms. Windsor will never have to buy a drink in the West Village. Ever. As it should be.

And gay activists are setting their sights on Gov. Chris Christie and setting up strategy for getting NJ to approve SSM. There’s apparently a court case that may challenge the existing civil unions as unconstitutional to force SSM that way, and there are legislative options being considered as well - from referendum (which is something Christie has said he’d allow in the past) to direct legislation (which Christie has said he’d veto because he’s got to pay fealty to the socons if he ever dreams of having a shot for a GOP nomination for 2016 or later).

187 darthstar  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:23:36am

re: #181 Vicious Babushka

188 darthstar  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:25:41am

re: #186 lawhawk

Fabulous…Spectacular…they’re going to need to invent a new adjective.

189 lawhawk  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:26:03am

re: #182 darthstar

Yeah, I saw that too. I think Snowden’s dad knows his son is in over his head, and he’s fishing for a way to get him back home in some fashion before he goes and does something even worse than he’s already achieved - damage control.

I also saw that he didn’t want his son to have a gag order as an enticement to come back to the States. I get why he’d make the request, but prosecutors aren’t going to want to allow that. Prosecutors would definitely seek to put limits on his Internet access in light of the crimes alleged. As a flight risk, I don’t think they’d allow bail either.

190 Wile E. Wonka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:30:37am

re: #172 William Barnett-Lewis

Just saw this comment at another web site and wanted to share with the other guys -

“Nothing blows away the myth of Intelligent Design like your first prostate exam.”

O_o

On the other hand… a dissenting opinion exists.

(um, pun intended?)

191 darthstar  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:33:19am
192 kirkspencer  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:34:00am

re: #182 darthstar

Actually, daddy also says that he’d come back to the US if he could keep his internet access and wasn’t thrown in jail right away. That struck me as an odd request. And he’s sent terms to Holder stating as much.

Contrary to Pinelo’s belief, yes it does work like that. Negotiations happen all the time, and it’s a lot easier to agree to some minor things and get him in hand than it is to go through the full rendition routine. Besides which these are opening shots in negotiations, which can be tweaked so all are happy.

Consider for example: “Internet access” ==> no problem, but everything (EVERYTHING) goes through a monitor. “Not in jail right away” ==> Ankle bracelet and restrictions on movements, plus frequent spot-checks by law enforcement. And right away means… one week? two weeks?

Neither of the offers by the father are onerous, not really.

193 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:35:17am

THIS IS SO DUMB
FARM PROGRAMS=BIG AG
FOOD STAMPS=AID TO THE POOR
Do wingnuts even know why the Food Stamp program was created in the first place? To take agricultural surplus and give it to the needy!
Now they are complaining that Teh Poors are getting more out of the program than the millionaire industrial farming operations.

194 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:36:17am

BRYAN BEING TEH VICTIM!!!11!!!

195 geoffm33  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:39:04am

re: #194 Vicious Babushka

I used to get all worked up and reply to him. Now I just laugh.

196 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:40:28am

re: #178 darthstar

Mornin’ everyone.

Meh. Applying the Teletubbies Rule. “They’re puppets—they don’t fuck.”

197 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:42:27am

re: #196 Decatur Deb

Meh. Applying the Teletubbies Rule. “They’re puppets—they don’t fuck.”

Whoever said that obviously did not watch “Team America”

198 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:42:37am

re: #193 Vicious Babushka

THIS IS SO DUMB
FARM PROGRAMS=BIG AG
FOOD STAMPS=AID TO THE POOR
Do wingnuts even know why the Food Stamp program was created in the first place? To take agricultural surplus and give it to the needy!
Now they are complaining that Teh Poors are getting more out of the program than the millionaire industrial farming operations.

That’s a coordinated TPGOP strategy—our dimwitted AL reps are calling for separation into ‘Food Stamp’ and agriculture subsidy bills. Wonder which bill they’d support.

199 Gus  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:43:50am

re: #194 Vicious Babushka

BRYAN BEING TEH VICTIM!!!11!!!

So Bryan and Christians are like an African-American slave that failed to attain freedom in 1857?

200 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:44:19am

re: #199 Gus

So Bryan and Christians are like an African-American slave that failed to attain freedom in 1857?

Bryan has 3/5ths of a soul.

201 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:44:23am

re: #198 Decatur Deb

That’s a coordinated TPGOP strategy—our dimwitted AL reps are calling for separation into ‘Food Stamp’ and agriculture subsidy bills. Wonder which bill they’d support.

Most agricultural surplus is in the form of HFCS, not gruel.

202 Wile E. Wonka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:45:26am

re: #193 Vicious Babushka

THIS IS SO DUMB
FARM PROGRAMS=BIG AG
FOOD STAMPS=AID TO THE POOR
Do wingnuts even know why the Food Stamp program was created in the first place? To take agricultural surplus and give it to the needy!
Now they are complaining that Teh Poors are getting more out of the program than the millionaire industrial farming operations.

Same root philosophy as the budget-busting “drug testing for welfare” bills that were all the rage last year. “We don’t care how much it costs us, as long as the lazy shiftless [redacted]s don’t get our crumbs.”

Disgusting.

203 geoffm33  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:45:49am

OT: Any Chicagoans out there, your city is full of class.

Open Letter to the Boston Bruins and the City of Boston

204 lawhawk  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:47:16am

re: #200 Decatur Deb

Bryan has 3/5ths of a soul.

You’re being charitable… Good on you. I think he’s got a soul, it’s just black.

205 Bulworth  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:47:33am

re: #203 geoffm33

#winning

Loved this. There’s so little of this in sports. Good on the Blackhawks.

206 Joanne  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:47:37am

re: #149 freetoken

So much has happened in 4 days : VRA ruling, Texas abortion fiasco, DOMA and Prop 8 rulings, and now the Zimmerman trial - I don’t think we have had time to really digest it all.

It has pushed Snowjob off the top of the heap of hot items, at least for most people.

And I am sure that is totally bumming Snowden out. Greenwald, too.

207 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:49:16am

re: #202 Wile E. Wonka

Same root philosophy as the budget-busting “drug testing for welfare” bills that were all the rage last year. “We don’t care how much it costs us, as long as the lazy shiftless [redacted]s don’t get our crumbs.”

Disgusting.

208 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:49:48am

re: #204 lawhawk

You’re being charitable… Good on you. I think he’s got a soul, it’s just black.

No, can’t envision Bryan at a James Brown concert, even if It’s a Man’s World:

Youtube Video

209 Bulworth  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:51:29am

re: #194 Vicious Babushka

My favorite derp is the one I read on some theocrat’s twitters last night, equating SSM to disallowing inter-racial marriage. Yeah. Allowing people to marry is the same fcking thing as not allowing some people to marry.

210 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:52:32am

re: #209 Bulworth

My favorite derp is the one I read on some theocrat’s twitters last night, equating SSM to disallowing inter-racial marriage. Yeah. Allowing people to marry is the same fcking thing as not allowing some people to marry.

The all-time stupidest DERP goes to Bryan Fischer for complaining that he is totally a HOLOCAUST VICTIM!!11!!

211 Joanne  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:53:00am

re: #177 Decatur Deb

Couldn’t we save the TPGOP a lot of time if we just gave them an LGF account?

No, no, no. Let them call me (I will talk and talk and talk to them), let them use up any possible resources they have. Over and over and over.

212 Bulworth  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:53:31am

re: #207 Vicious Babushka

Is the “libcrib” tag supposed to be an insult. Also, too, where’s the LNYHBT?????

213 Wile E. Wonka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:54:41am

re: #201 Vicious Babushka

Most agricultural surplus is in the form of HFCS, not gruel.

Good point. When the farm bills were first enacted, there wasn’t a Big Ethanol to pick up the slack from yanking the gruel outta the poors’ mouths.

Now that food can compete with Cheap Gas for marketshare, who needs the needy? Best of all possible worlds!
/

214 Lidane  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:56:56am

Pennsylvania Dem silenced by opponent citing ‘God’s law’

As is the case in many states, many in Pennsylvania are considering how to proceed in the wake of the Supreme Court’s ruling striking down the Defense of Marriage Act, and on Wednesday, state Rep. Brian Sims (D) of Philadelphia rose to address the issue with his legislative colleagues.

But Sims, the first openly gay member elected to the state House, was not allowed to deliver his remarks — one of his colleagues raised a procedural objection to block him from speaking.

And why is that? Republican State Rep. Daryl Metcalfe, who prevented Sims from addressing the chamber on DOMA, explained himself this way:

“I did not believe that as a member of that body that I should allow someone to make comments such as he was preparing to make that ultimately were just open rebellion against what the word of God has said, what God has said, and just open rebellion against God’s law,” Metcalfe had told WHYY of Philadelphia.

Bolding is mine.

Separation of church and state, how the fuck does it work?

215 Gus  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:57:50am

Penn. Lawmaker Censored On House Floor From Speaking On Gay Rights

…State Rep. Brian Sims’ (D) remarks during a part of the House session where representatives are allowed to speak openly were cut off almost immediately by a procedural maneuver. State Rep. Daryl Metcalfe (R) objected to the remarks on the grounds that Sims was speaking out “against God’s law.”

“I did not believe that as a member of that body that I should allow someone to make comments such as he was preparing to make that ultimately were just open rebellion against what the word of God has said, what God has said, and just open rebellion against God’s law,” Metcalfe said, as quoted by WHYY-FM….

216 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:57:57am

re: #212 Bulworth

Is the “libcrib” tag supposed to be an insult. Also, too, where’s the LNYHBT?????

LIBCRIB is a liberal hashtag, like UniteBlue, the person Tweeting this is a progressive.

217 lawhawk  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:58:35am

Gov. NuckingFuts has demanded and set upon another Special Session to pass abortion restrictions, but can’t seem to muster up any effort to fix monumental problems with public safety from the manufacturing sector.


No sprinklers in a manufacturing plant where they deal with large quantities of hazardous and explosive materials on a regular basis.

It’s a ticking time bomb situation, and the clock hit zero for West, Texas and its emergency services personnel who lost their lives fighting the blaze and ensuing explosions.

How difficult would it be to call a special session about that? Improve public safety that affects a whole lot of people - like those who live in spitting distance of the major industrial plants in Houston, Texas City, Galveston, and other urban industrial areas.

No. Instead he’s focusing on the lady bits and demanding closure of facilities that perform abortions because they “aren’t safe enough” for patients even though they’ve got mortality and morbidity rates that most hospitals (which are covered by the law Perry is wishing to extend to abortion facilities) wish they had for their patients.

218 Gus  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:58:38am

re: #214 Lidane

Pennsylvania Dem silenced by opponent citing ‘God’s law’

Bolding is mine.

Separation of church and state, how the fuck does it work?

Dang you! :D Also thought it needed some bolding.

219 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:58:42am

re: #213 Wile E. Wonka

Good point. When the farm bills were first enacted, there wasn’t a Big Ethanol to pick up the slack from yanking the gruel outta the poors’ mouths.

Now that food can compete with Cheap Gas for marketshare, who needs the needy? Best of all possible worlds!
/

You’re right, I totally forgot about Car Corn.

220 Gus  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:01:06am

Image: 03-16-12_state-rep-daryl-metcalfe_original.jpg

221 Bulworth  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:01:23am

re: #178 darthstar

See how you’re oppressing us?!?!!!11!

222 Bulworth  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:02:49am

re: #215 Gus

Sounds like Sharia law to me. Get Atlas Shruggsjuggs on it right away.

223 Bulworth  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:03:15am

re: #216 Vicious Babushka

OK, thanks.

Hey, I’m just learning here, people!!!!!!

224 Bulworth  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:05:05am

re: #186 lawhawk

Be on the lookout for Bryan Fischer. He’s gotta be a regular at this.

225 Lidane  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:08:52am

This guy sounds like he’s in desperate need of getting laid.

226 Lidane  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:09:36am
227 lawhawk  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:10:15am

Dim Jim:


Ooh, another electric car company went bust.

Does Dim Jim know how many car companies have gone bust? I doubt he’d be able to count that high - even after taking off his socks.

This is just a partial list of major car companies that have stuck around for a couple of years (another list that includes failed car companies).

There are tons of conventionally powered car companies that didn’t make it in the past couple of years. Saturn. Hummer, Pontiac, Saab, plus older companies like Studebaker, Edsel, DeSoto, Willys, AMC, etc.

Some of them got tons of government money over time - like government contracts or other direct aid, tax breaks, etc.

Not every new company will last, and not every electric startup will succeed, but some might - Tesla appears to have found its footing and is making a profit (along with one of the best tested cars in Consumer Reports history).

228 Bulworth  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:10:31am

re: #225 Lidane

Less government. Freedom. Don’t Tread On Me. Gadsden Flag.

229 Gus  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:11:12am

re: #226 Lidane

It’s like a roll call of demented WASPy manbros.

230 lawhawk  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:11:59am

re: #225 Lidane

It’s the strategy I was saying they’d try the other day. Look to revive Bowers and overturn Lawrence v. Texas.

The socons and GOPers want government so small, it fits into your bedroom and the lady bits.

231 Bulworth  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:12:18am

re: #227 lawhawk

And yet if the price of gas goes up by 3 cents dimjim will screech in horror OUTRAGE. //

232 lawhawk  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:13:01am
233 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:13:26am

Wingnut frothing rage at Tammy Duckworth for “bullying” non-disabled guy who scammed VA and IRS for “disability preferment.”
Un-fucking-believable.

234 Gus  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:20:38am

re: #227 lawhawk

Dim Jim:


Ooh, another electric car company went bust.

Does Dim Jim know how many car companies have gone bust? I doubt he’d be able to count that high - even after taking off his socks.

This is just a partial list of major car companies that have stuck around for a couple of years (another list that includes failed car companies).

There are tons of conventionally powered car companies that didn’t make it in the past couple of years. Saturn. Hummer, Pontiac, Saab, plus older companies like Studebaker, Edsel, DeSoto, Willys, AMC, etc.

Some of them got tons of government money over time - like government contracts or other direct aid, tax breaks, etc.

Not every new company will last, and not every electric startup will succeed, but some might - Tesla appears to have found its footing and is making a profit (along with one of the best tested cars in Consumer Reports history).

en.wikipedia.org

235 Gus  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:20:55am
Nance (1911)[151]
Napoleon (1916-1919)[195]
Nash (1917-1957)
Nash-Healey (1951-1954)
National (1900-1924)
Nelson (1917-1921)[151]
Neustadt-Perry or Neustadt (1901-1908, 1915)[151]
New England Electric (1899-1901)
New England Steamer (1898-1899)[174]
New Era (1901-1902)[151]
New Era (1916)
New Era (1933-1934)[196]
New Home (1899-1901)[151]
New York (1907)
New York Six (1927-1928)
Niagara (1900-1902)
Niagara (1903-1905)[197]
Niagara Four (1915-1916)
Nichols Shepard (1910-1911)[151]
Nielson (1906-1907)[198]
Noble (1902)[161]
Noma (1919-1923)[151]
Northern (1902-1908)[199]
Northway (1921-1922)[151][172]
North Western or Northwestern (see Haase or Logan)[151]
Norton (1901-1902)[199][200]
Norwalk (1910-1922)[151][201]
Nu-Klea (1959-1960)
Nyberg (1911-1913)[199]
236 Gus  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:21:31am

Those are just the N’s. It’s a huge list.

237 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:21:58am

DERP

238 lawhawk  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:22:20am

re: #233 Vicious Babushka

Bullying? No. It was shaming a guy who claimed to be a veteran and was anything but.

If it was anyone else, the GOPers and TPers would be cheering on such shaming (people claiming to be veterans when they weren’t was one of the reasons behind passage of the Stolen Valor Act, which was later found unconstitutional for violating the First Amendment under US v. Alvarez).

239 Gus  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:23:27am

Shorter list.
List of Recent Dead, Defunct & Bankrupt Car Companies

American Motors (AMC) (1966-1987)
Apollo (1962-1964)
Aptera Motors (2005-2011)
Autoette (1948-1970)
Bricklin (1974-1976)
Checker (1922-1982)
Citicar (1974-1976)
Corbin (1999-2003)
Dale (1974)
DeLorean (1981-1982)
DeSoto (1928-1961)
Dovell (circa 1980s)
Eagle (1988-1998)
Edsel (1958-1960)
Electricar (1950-1966)
Eshelman (1953-1961)
Fiberfab (circa 1960s)
Frazen (1951-1962)
Gaslight (1960-circa 1961)
Geo (1989-1997)
Henney (1960-1964)
Hummer (1992-2010)
Imperial (1955-1975, 1981-1983)
International Harvester (1907-1975)
King Midget (1947-1970)
Mercury (1939-2010)
Nu-Klea (1959-1960)
Oldsmobile (1897-2004)
Plymouth (1928-2001)
Pontiac (1926-2010)
Powell (1930s-1960s)
Rambler (1958-1969)
REO (or Reo) (1905-1975)
Saab (1937-2012)
Saturn (1985-2010)
Studebaker (1902-1967)
Stutz (1968-1987)
Vector (1971-1999, 2006-2010)
White (1902-1981)
Willys (1916-1918, 1930-1942, 1953-1963)

240 geoffm33  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:24:38am

re: #234 Gus

en.wikipedia.org

I didn’t even read the list. Once I saw the list was broken into sections by first letter, I reaffirmed that DimJim is a pandering asshole.

241 Bulworth  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:26:00am

re: #227 lawhawk

Ready up another Accuracy In Media award!!

//

242 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:26:18am

Good morning lizards!

243 Joanne  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:26:19am

re: #237 Vicious Babushka

I think # lyhnbt should be # lybnbe (let your brain not be engaged). Are these schmoes supposedly Christian? Really, Who Would Jesus Hate?

244 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:26:58am

re: #243 Joanne

I think # lyhnbt should be # lybnbe (let your brain not be engaged). Are these schmoes supposedly Christian? Really, Who Would Jesus Hate?

LNYHBT has even MOAR DERP than TGDN!

245 geoffm33  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:28:23am

Another OT: Funny pic of the day, making it’s rounds on FB now…

Up Up Up!!

Credit: Originally from this FB user, then via George Takei

246 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:28:38am

TEH DERP CONVERGENCE

248 lawhawk  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:29:14am

re: #240 geoffm33

That’s why the shortish list I linked above was more than sufficient to rebut Dim Jim’s claims. Car companies went belly up every year - especially in the early days. Some were consolidated into bigger brands, others were simply unable to compete with the established bigger brands.

It’s a situation not unlike the current race to figure out how to make electrics viable options. Some, like Aptera and Fisker didn’t figure it out in time. Tesla appears to have found a sweet spot (and are aiming for mass market in a few years). The established brands like Toyota, GM, and Ford are looking at rolling out their own hybrids, plug ins, and pure electrics in the next few years as well (and they have the advantage of being established brands with distribution channels to match). That’s why Tesla’s efforts to eschew the traditional distribution channel is interesting to watch. If they succeed, that might open the door to others doing the same.

249 chadu  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:30:25am

re: #115 Kragar

Hardcore douche nozzle

Your Libertarian Purity Score
Your score is…
14
6-15 points: You are starting to have libertarian leanings. Explore them.

Uh, thanks but no thanks.

(That’s out of 160 points, btw.)

250 Gus  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:31:48am

re: #214 Lidane

Pennsylvania Dem silenced by opponent citing ‘God’s law’

Bolding is mine.

Separation of church and state, how the fuck does it work?

@DarylMetcalfe

251 geoffm33  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:34:00am

re: #115 Kragar

Hardcore douche nozzle

That’s the dumbest test.

Question #1: Are taxes too high?

Of course I want my taxes to be lower. I’d be lying if I answered no. And whose taxes, mine? Some millionaire/billionaire?

252 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:34:09am

Not shocking:

Russian Official Says Snowden Could Appeal For Asylum In Russia

253 lawhawk  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:35:07am
254 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:36:03am

re: #249 chadu

Your Libertarian Purity Score

Your score is…
11
6-15 points: You are starting to have libertarian leanings. Explore them.

This test is fucked up.

255 Joanne  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:36:23am

re: #245 geoffm33

Another OT: Funny pic of the day, making it’s rounds on FB now…

Up Up Up!!

Credit: Originally from this FB user, then via George Takei

That is awesome!!

256 lawhawk  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:36:31am

re: #251 geoffm33

Want to repeal all taxes?
Want to make all drugs legal?
Want to abolish government?
Want to privatize all police, fire, sanitation?

Sheesh. I’m with chadu on this one… Thanks but no thanks.

257 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:37:45am

re: #254 Vicious Babushka

This test is fucked up.

It’s a telling interpretation. It couldn’t possibly be, for example, that you used to be more libertarian and became less so, no, you must be just getting into it because nobody could become disillusioned with libertarianism.

258 geoffm33  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:40:02am

re: #256 lawhawk

Want to repeal all taxes?
Want to make all drugs legal?
Want to abolish government?
Want to privatize all police, fire, sanitation?

Sheesh. I’m with chadu on this one… Thanks but no thanks.

I made it through the whole thing, hit submit and the site barfed. Didn’t have the inclination to redo the test.

259 lawhawk  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:40:44am

The people who out there defending Paula Deen, and focusing on her use of the n-word keep ignoring the larger picture. She was fostering a hostile work environment, and using the n-word was part of that larger issue.

The n-word was a symptom of a bigger problem with the way she did things.

Not that her boosters care.

260 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:42:15am

Armstrong: I’m still record Tour de France winner

PORTO VECCHIO, Corsica (AP) - The dirty past of the Tour de France came back on Friday to haunt the 100th edition of cycling’s showcase race, with Lance Armstrong telling a newspaper he couldn’t have won without doping.

Armstrong’s interview with Le Monde was surprising on many levels, not least because of his long-antagonistic relationship with the respected French daily that first reported in 1999 that corticosteroids were found in the American’s urine as he was riding his way to the first of his seven Tour wins. In response, Armstrong complained he was being persecuted by “vulture journalism, desperate journalism.”

Now seemingly prepared to let bygones be bygones, Armstrong told Le Monde he still considers himself the record-holder for Tour victories, even though all seven of his titles were stripped from him last year for doping. He also said his life has been ruined by the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency investigation that exposed as lies his years of denials that he and his teammates doped.

261 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:43:49am
262 Joanne  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:46:34am

re: #115 Kragar

bcaplan.com

I scored a 12.

I am shocked by some of those questions. That test did nothing but reinforce that Libertarians are crazy.

I had a date with a Libertarian once (we met through an online dating site) and, whew, I spent the entire dinner absorbing the Libertarian utopia. I thought I leaned Libertarian before that. I learned that I was wrong. All I kept thinking all throughout dinner was, why am I not home washing my hair?!? After dinner I excused myself from the remainder of the date.

EDIT: I love how a score of 12 out of 160 means that I am leaning Libertarian and I should explore it. Riiiiiiight.

263 Weet  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:46:57am
264 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:47:43am

re: #262 Joanne

bcaplan.com

I scored a 12.

I am shocked by some of those questions. That test did nothing but reinforce that Libertarians are crazy.

I had a date with a Libertarian once (we met through an online dating site) and, whew, I spent the entire dinner absorbing the Libertarian utopia. I thought I leaned Libertarian before that. I learned that I was wrong. All I kept thinking all throughout dinner was, why am I not home washing my hair?!? After dinner I excused myself from the remainder of the date.

Someone who scored high on this test is an anarchist, not a libertarian.

Sodom and Gomorrah were libertarian societies.

265 lawhawk  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:48:47am

re: #258 geoffm33

The odd thing is that I actually score more libertarian in other tests that test along the political spectrum rather than this one because of the nature of the questions asked - like breaking out legalizing drug use for marijuana versus other hard drugs (cocaine, heroin, etc.) instead of lumping all together, or separating out regulatory effects.

Other tests do better in figuring out where you fall along the spectrum of libertarianism v. authoritarianism / left v. right. Etc.

266 Skip Intro  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:52:29am

re: #253 lawhawk

Image: la-na-tt-new-voting-rights-discrimination-2013-001.jpg

267 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:58:21am

This is troubling…

U.S. Park Police Lost Track of 1,400 Guns, According to Internal Investigation

The U.S. Park Police, tasked with upholding law and order at federal parks throughout D.C. and across the United States, has lost track of thousands of firearms, according to a damning report from the Interior Department’s Office of Inspector General. The report, released last night, finds that Park Police are missing information on more than 1,400 handguns, rifles, and machine guns, including some models that date back to World War I.

“We found that staff at all levels—from firearms program managers to their employees—had no clear idea of how many weapons they maintained due to incomplete and poorly managed inventory controls,” the report reads. The Interior Department launched the investigation following an anonymous tip about Park Police officers taking weapons for their personal use.

The report states that while none of the missing firearms appear to have made it into criminal hands, it also concludes that the Park Police, which is overseen by the National Park Service, is currently ill-equipped to manage its arsenal. Inspectors who carried out the investigation found 1,400 more weapons than the Park Police—an agency with 640 officers spread across the nation—has files on.

Among the additional weapons are 477 military-style automatic and semiautomatic rifles, as well as several guns that “fulfilled no operational need.” In that latter category are firearms that have not been state-of-the-art in many decades. The report says that inspectors found the Park Police is holding onto 20 M1 Garand rifles and four Thompson submachine guns. The M1 Garand was the standard-issue U.S. Army rifle between World War II and the earliest phases of the American presence in Vietnam, while tommy guns are perhaps best known today as staples of Prohibition-era gangster movies.

268 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:59:40am

re: #245 geoffm33

Another OT: Funny pic of the day, making it’s rounds on FB now…

Up Up Up!!

Credit: Originally from this FB user, then via George Takei

The kid looks like my accountant (although my accountant doesn’t usually have balloons!)

269 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:00:45am

*FACE PALM*

270 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:01:25am

re: #260 NJDhockeyfan

Armstrong: I’m still record Tour de France winner

He also stated that you can’t win the tour without doping

BULLSHIT,,,, if nobody was doping, somebody STILL would win the tour

271 geoffm33  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:01:40am

re: #265 lawhawk

The odd thing is that I actually score more libertarian in other tests that test along the political spectrum rather than this one because of the nature of the questions asked - like breaking out legalizing drug use for marijuana versus other hard drugs (cocaine, heroin, etc.) instead of lumping all together, or separating out regulatory effects.

Other tests do better in figuring out where you fall along the spectrum of libertarianism v. authoritarianism / left v. right. Etc.

Here is mine….

272 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:03:49am

re: #267 NJDhockeyfan

This is troubling…

U.S. Park Police Lost Track of 1,400 Guns, According to Internal Investigation

Yogi Bear and Boo Boo have been brought in for questioning!

273 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:04:11am

re: #271 geoffm33

Here is mine….

I decided not to take the test after reading the first question:

If economic globalisation is inevitable, it should primarily serve humanity rather than the interests of trans-national corporations.

Question should have been: ARE CORPORATIONS PEOPLE?

274 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:05:20am

Here is that idiotic wingnut “list of reason to impeach Obama” that somebody asked about last week:

275 Weet  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:07:54am

re: #195 geoffm33

I used to get all worked up and reply to him. Now I just laugh.

I find it most effective to simply ignore these folks.

276 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:09:25am

re: #195 geoffm33

At this point my sadism is coming out driving me to elect more Dems just to watch fucktards like this squirm. Bring on Hillary ‘16.

277 chadu  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:11:58am

Linkre: #265 lawhawk

Other tests do better in figuring out where you fall along the spectrum of libertarianism v. authoritarianism / left v. right. Etc.

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -7.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.31

Hunh.

278 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:12:00am

A few Hollywood moonbats led by Oliver Stone have signed a letter asking Ecuador to grant Edward Snowden asylum.

Oliver Stone, stars push for Snowden asylum

Director Oliver Stone is joining with such notables as Noam Chomsky, Daniel Ellsberg, former Ambassador Joe Wilson and Tom Hayden to encourage Ecuadorean President Rafael Correa to grant Edward Snowden’s asylum request.

…In a letter posted on the website Just Foreign Policy, the signatories pen a letter to Correa and write, “Snowden’s disclosures have already done much to unveil the alarming scale of U.S. government spying on its own citizens and on people around the world. “

The letter is also signed by some actors, including Danny Glover, Ambder Heard, Shia LaBeauof, John Cusack and Roseanne Barr.

279 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:13:00am

re: #269 Vicious Babushka

hmmm…

Arctic Heatwave Hits Central Siberia Pushing Temperatures to 90 Degrees and Sparking Tundra Fires

280 Bulworth  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:13:18am

re: #269 Vicious Babushka

I wonder how Bryan’s gay marriage that he was forced into because of SCOTUS is doing.

281 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:13:37am

re: #279 Backwoods_Sleuth

hmmm…

Arctic Heatwave Hits Central Siberia Pushing Temperatures to 90 Degrees and Sparking Tundra Fires

Send that to Bryan.

282 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:14:07am

re: #280 Bulworth

I wonder how Bryan’s gay marriage that he was forced into because of SCOTUS is doing.

How does he smuggle his Tweets out of Teh FEMA extermination camp?

283 chadu  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:14:13am

re: #277 chadu

Link

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -7.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.31

Hunh.

Image: pcgraphpng.php.png

284 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:16:22am

Scored to the left of, and less authoritarian, than Ghandi. Funny that Romney and Obama are together and about as far away as possible.

285 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:16:48am
286 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:18:58am

re: #121 freetoken

The US is too big to be done in by any outside agent, so we’ll just dither here for the next century or so, until the current arrangement of life becomes untenable (probably from exhausted fossil fuel sources and dried out and wasted farmland), and a new age will come and the old will pass away.

And, it being America, there will be a lot of blood shed arguing over which way to go.

287 lawhawk  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:18:59am

re: #281 Vicious Babushka

Send that to Bryan.

Too much science-y stuff for him to comprehend.

288 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:20:28am

re: #277 chadu

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -7.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.13

289 lawhawk  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:20:54am
290 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:21:23am

re: #249 chadu

Uh, thanks but no thanks.

(That’s out of 160 points, btw.)

I scored 10.

F those thieves who pretend to be for freedom. The only freedom they want is the freedom to cheat, to lie, to steal & exploit in a world where only you cash balance has any meaning.

“Thanks but no thanks” is putting it nicer than I would.

291 geoffm33  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:21:27am

re: #277 chadu

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -4.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.15

292 Mattand  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:25:00am

re: #262 Joanne

bcaplan.com

I scored a 12.

…
EDIT: I love how a score of 12 out of 160 means that I am leaning Libertarian and I should explore it. Riiiiiiight.

LOL, I got the same result.

I’m still trying figure out whether or not that site is a put-on. Some of the questions are a little out there:

Is it morally permissible to exercise “vigilante justice,” even against government leaders?

I mean, I don’t ever recall assassination being a core tenant of libertarianism.

293 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:25:28am

re: #290 William Barnett-Lewis

I scored 10.

F those thieves who pretend to be for freedom. The only freedom they want is the freedom to cheat, to lie, to steal & exploit in a world where only you cash balance has any meaning.

“Thanks but no thanks” is putting it nicer than I would.

Are we talking about more than one test right now? Don’t see ‘160’ scale anywhere.

294 wrenchwench  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:25:56am

re: #283 chadu

Image: pcgraphpng.php.png

Me:

politicalcompass.org

295 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:26:01am

For all of you that believe I’m some sort of RWNJ

Economic Left/Right: -0.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.13

I’m exactly one square from dead center

296 Mattand  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:26:16am

re: #289 lawhawk

Just saw that at philly.com. This seems like it makes things worse, not better.

297 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:26:41am

re: #295 sattv4u2

For all of you that believe I’m some sort of RWNJ

Economic Left/Right: -0.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.13

I’m exactly one square from dead center

Extremist!

298 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:27:00am

re: #297 Killgore Trout

Extremist!

OUTRAGE!

299 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:27:10am

Live coverage of the protests in Egypt
aljazeera.com

300 Mattand  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:27:42am

re: #295 sattv4u2

For all of you that believe I’m some sort of RWNJ

Economic Left/Right: -0.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.13

I’m exactly one square from dead center

So did you vote Romney or Obama last November?

301 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:28:17am

re: #294 wrenchwench

Me:

politicalcompass.org

Congratulations, comrade. There must be missing dimensions, though. I scored -6.2/-6.2, but have been married 46 years to a committed quasi-Catholic and donate to old nuns.

302 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:28:44am

re: #200 Decatur Deb

Bryan has 3/5ths of a soul.

I don’t believe so. He gave his soul away to The Adversary years ago. The Guy Downstairs didn’t even have to bargain for it.

303 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:29:10am

re: #300 Mattand

So did you vote Romney or Obama last November?

I’ll tell you thee same thing I told my wife

Non of your damn business

I’ve always been a big believer in the SECRET part of SECRET ballot

304 geoffm33  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:29:14am

re: #300 Mattand

So did you vote Romney or Obama last November?

Both.

305 Bulworth  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:29:24am

In light of this week’s DOMA decision, didn’t Bryan Fischer predict doom and gloom when DADT was repealed? And didn’t Fischer predict more doom and gloom when women were allowed into combat units? Good times.

306 wrenchwench  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:29:29am

re: #293 Decatur Deb

Are we talking about more than one test right now? Don’t see ‘160’ scale anywhere.

The other one is from here. I think.

307 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:29:31am

re: #299 Killgore Trout

Live coverage of the protests in Egypt
aljazeera.com

Another lovely SPRING day, I see

308 Mattand  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:30:26am

re: #303 sattv4u2

I’ll tell you thee same thing I told my wife

Non of your damn business

I’ve always been a big believer in the SECRET part of SECRET ballot

Romney, then.

309 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:30:29am

re: #277 chadu

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -7.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.31

Hunh.

Economic Left/Right: -8.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.49

Heh. Always get a kick out of that one.

310 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:30:32am

re: #304 geoffm33

Both.

Nah. I don’t live in Chicago!

311 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:30:51am

re: #308 Mattand

Romney, then.

If that helps you sleep at night

312 geoffm33  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:31:05am

re: #310 sattv4u2

Nah. I don’t live in Chicago!

No longer in boston either right?

#VoteEarlyAndOften

313 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:31:37am

re: #312 geoffm33

No longer in boston either right?

#VoteEarlyAndOften

Corretcamundo

314 Stanghazi  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:31:45am

re: #274 Vicious Babushka

Here is that idiotic wingnut “list of reason to impeach Obama” that somebody asked about last week:

Me and THANKS!

CRAY CRAY

315 Mattand  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:31:51am

re: #311 sattv4u2

If that helps you sleep at night

Someone woke up on the wrong side of the satellite dish…

316 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:32:56am

re: #315 Mattand

Someone woke up on the wrong side of the satellite dish…

Not at all

I gave you my answer. That you (for some unknown reason) can’t accept it then have to tell me what the answer is is a you problem, not a me problem

317 wrenchwench  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:33:32am

Looks like another day of flaky internet. Guess I’ll go fix some bikes.

318 Weet  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:34:11am

re: #120 Dark_Falcon

History suggests that if the Democrats keep the White House in 2016, whoever them elect is likely to lose in 2020. America tends not to like having one party in power for too long.

Demographic changes mean that this history will be shattered. With the remarkably fanatical and extremist Republican Party we have today, there is no way they can win the Presidency after 2016. Therefore, we have to have a clear Democratic winner in 2016 (like Clinton), and then it’s smooth sailing until the Republican party either withers away, or makes about-face changes.

319 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:34:18am

re: #312 geoffm33

No longer in boston either right?

#VoteEarlyAndOften

You know the old story about Boston Mayor Kevin White sending his people out to cemeteries to get “voters” names, right?

320 Weet  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:36:07am

re: #121 freetoken

The US is too big to be done in by any outside agent, so we’ll just dither here for the next century or so, until the current arrangement of life becomes untenable (probably from exhausted fossil fuel sources and dried out and wasted farmland), and a new age will come and the old will pass away.

I will wager it all changes within 40 to 75 years.

321 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:36:25am

re: #299 Killgore Trout

Live coverage of the protests in Egypt
aljazeera.com

From the sounds of things this weekend could get very ugly.

Egyptian clerics warn of ‘civil war’ ahead of mass protests

Egypt risks sliding into civil war, the country’s leading religious authority warned Friday, as the nation braced itself for mass nationwide protests.

Organizers of “June 30” demonstrations — which mark one year since Islamist President Mohammed Morsi’s election — claim they have the backing of an estimated 15 million Egyptians who want him to resign.

“Only God knows what will happen [on Sunday],” said Gamal Abdul Aziz, a pro-Morsi car mechanic in Madba’a, a blue-collar district in Cairo.

322 geoffm33  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:36:27am

re: #319 sattv4u2

Ahh yes.

323 Mattand  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:38:15am

re: #316 sattv4u2

Not at all

I gave you my answer. That you (for some unknown reason) can’t accept it then have to tell me what the answer is is a you problem, not a me problem

Heh, it’s anecdotal, but in my experience, the only people who never reveal who they vote for tend to be conservative.

Come gimme a hug anyway, ya big galoot!

324 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:38:35am

re: #319 sattv4u2

You know the old story about Boston Mayor Kevin White sending his people out to cemeteries to get “voters” names, right?

Chicago did it, too, if I remember right

325 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:39:15am

re: #324 wheat-dogghazi

Chicago did it, too, if I remember right

Spent time there
Never lived there
So ,,, I dunno!!

326 Gus  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:39:45am

Uh oh, I’m Hitler.

//

327 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:40:18am

re: #326 Gus

Uh oh, I’m Hitler.

//

Damn fascist!

//

328 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:40:50am

Have y’all seen this image of Obama before? My first time seeing it, and a Chinese student showed it to me.

Image: president_spock.jpg

329 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:41:44am

re: #326 Gus

Uh oh, I’m Hitler.

//

Hitler is strangely economic centric on that chart—Obama and Romney look like they score farther ‘right’ per the experts.

330 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:42:21am

re: #322 geoffm33

re: #324 wheat-dogghazi

Bostons Mayor White was a classic though

One time he wanted a (iirc) 5% increase in property taxes

Knowing the public would be outraged he had stories circulated that the city council wanted a 10% increase, while he, the mayor, wanted only a modest 1% hike

So he gets the council to agree on a 5% hike then goes on TV hailing his “victory” saying he saved the public from a 10% hike and battled it down to 5%

331 Gus  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:43:29am

Actual results.

332 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:45:02am

re: #331 Gus

Actual results.

Barely a fellow-traveler. Report for the next scheduled self-criticism session.

333 Gus  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:45:50am

re: #332 Decatur Deb

Barely a fellow-traveler. Report for the next scheduled self-criticism session.

Super commie.

334 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:47:26am

And now for something completely different…

There is a website where vegans out ex-vegans.

If you’re no longer vegan, you’re going on the list.

The spirits of the billions murdered have risen to deliver: The Vegan Sellout List - an online directory of those who have regressed from moral consistency to moral depravity.

The Vegan Sellout List is our answer to the epidemic of vegan sellouts - those who are aware of the suffering caused by meat, dairy, egg, fur, and leather production, yet choose to look away while the animals suffer.

Selling out veganism is a trend on the upswing, bringing with it swarms of haughty, nose-turning carnists uttering nonsensical buzzwords re: veganism being “privileged”, or “trendy”, critiquing themselves into ethical degeneracy and paleo-terrorism.

…

335 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:47:29am

re: #330 sattv4u2

re: #324 wheat-dogghazi

Bostons Mayor White was a classic though

One time he wanted a (iirc) 5% increase in property taxes

Knowing the public would be outraged he had stories circulated that the city council wanted a 10% increase, while he, the mayor, wanted only a modest 1% hike

So he gets the council to agree on a 5% hike then goes on TV hailing his “victory” saying he saved the public from a 10% hike and battled it down to 5%

It’s the way the game was played before the current entrenchment—corrupt, but shit got done. I don’t think the present TPGOP would sign up to respond to Pearl Harbor.

336 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:47:53am

re: #332 Decatur Deb

Barely a fellow-traveler. Report for the next scheduled self-criticism session.

“this isn’t self criticism, this is argumnent,,,”

Youtube Video

337 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:48:37am

re: #336 sattv4u2

“this isn’t self criticism, this is argumnent,,,”

[Embedded content]

I was looking for Abuse, in 12A.

338 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:49:22am

re: #337 Decatur Deb

I was looking for SELF Abuse, in 12A.

ftfy

whatever floats your boat!!
/

339 Gus  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:51:06am

Breaks into Thumbelina song.

It had to be done.

//

340 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:51:21am

I’m more “Leftist” and “Libertarian” that I thought.

politicalcompass.org

341 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:51:34am

re: #249 chadu

Your Libertarian Purity Score is 18

16-30 points: You are a soft-core libertarian. With effort, you may harden and become pure.

342 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:52:54am

re: #340 Vicious Babushka

All those tests are 99% bullshit. There’s no way of graphing something this complex on a Cartesian coordinate system.

Hell, even back when I was ‘conservative’ I was in favor of universal health care, because it makes basic, selfish economic sense to do it.

343 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:53:28am

We got pounded by a spectacular thunderstorm just now. I strolled over to the atrium to enjoy it.

344 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:54:05am

re: #342 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

All those tests are 99% bullshit. There’s no way of graphing something this complex on a Cartesian coordinate system.

Hell, even back when I was ‘conservative’ I was in favor of universal health care, because it makes basic, selfish economic sense to do it.

“Results are not scientific, for entertainment only”

345 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:54:11am

re: #340 Vicious Babushka

I’m more “Leftist” and “Libertarian” that I thought.

politicalcompass.org

That’s why you’re not making Obama ashtrays at FEMA summer camp.

346 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:55:36am

re: #345 Decatur Deb

That’s why you’re not making Obama ashtrays at FEMA summer camp.

But Obama is more “Rightist” and “Authoritarian” than I thought he was. In fact he’s pretty close to Romney.

347 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:56:23am

re: #342 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

All those tests are 99% bullshit. There’s no way of graphing something this complex on a Cartesian coordinate system.

Hell, even back when I was ‘conservative’ I was in favor of universal health care, because it makes basic, selfish economic sense to do it.

Johari Windows for poli-geeks,

348 chadu  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:57:14am

re: #334 NJDhockeyfan

21: Do we have souls?
24: Yeah. They’re not quite souls, but that’s the general idea. Everything has a soul.
21: Crap! I guess I should become a vegetarian?
24: No, like everything living has a soul. Even spinach. You can’t win.
21: So that’s…a problem.
24: Here’s something, you know how people cry about aborting babies because of their “soul”? It turns out you don’t get a soul until you’re like one.
21: So weird…one? Really?
24: Or like maybe six months, I forget. Either way you’re just this little crying, pooing, monster blob ‘til you get your soul.
21: That’s amazing. I should tell everybody, people need to know about this!
24: Oh, definitely! Maybe you should write it all down on a golden plate. Or maybe get some aviators and a compound in Guyana.

God, I love the Venture Brothers.

349 Mattand  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:58:45am

re: #342 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

All those tests are 99% bullshit. There’s no way of graphing something this complex on a Cartesian coordinate system.

Hell, even back when I was ‘conservative’ I was in favor of universal health care, because it makes basic, selfish economic sense to do it.

I loved the The US Presidential Election 2012 graph showing that there’s almost no difference between Obama and Romney, firmly ensconced in the “dictator” side. That was a bit of a red flag.

350 chadu  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:59:08am

re: #341 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Your Libertarian Purity Score is 18

16-30 points: You are a soft-core libertarian. With effort, you may harden and become pure.

I’m pretty sure if you harden, you may not end up being so pure. Wink-wink, nudge-nudge, say-no-more!

351 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:59:12am

re: #346 Vicious Babushka

But Obama is more “Rightist” and “Authoritarian” than I thought he was. In fact he’s pretty close to Romney.

The people he surrounds himself with are the give-away. If he were lefty, Bernie Sanders would be in Geitner’s seat, Nader at EPA.

352 abolitionist  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:00:11am

re: #328 wheat-dogghazi

Have y’all seen this image of Obama before? My first time seeing it, and a Chinese student showed it to me.

Image: president_spock.jpg

Fascinating.

353 BeenHereAwhile  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:04:26am

re: #40 Dark_Falcon

re: #30 Joanne

What’s a TraziProg?

TRANSnational PROgressive. Basically a far leftist who claims loyalty to some type of ‘transnational’ ideal he or she holds higher than their loyalty to their nation.

most Americans who call themselves ‘Progressives’ do not fit this label, as most them are loyal to America and will not willingly act to harm her.

Every TraziProg I’ve met brings to mind the line in Jonathan Edwards’s “Sunshine.”

“He can’t even run his own life, I’ll be damned if he’ll run mine.”

Oddly enough it was our record company’s first hit.

354 Bulworth  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:05:07am

re: #349 Mattand

Confirmed. FACT. //

356 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:08:30am

re: #355 NJDhockeyfan

House committee votes IRS official waived Fifth Amendment right

Wow, the GOP house now cool with overriding constitutional protections. It’s their laser-like focus on jobs!

Anyway, Issa doesn’t actually want this to go on any further, since it’s been revealed he purposefully misrepresented what the IRS did.

And dude, seriously, Weasel Zippers? The place that, in response to Wendy Davis’s filibuster, is mocking her for wearing a catheter? You really read that shit?

357 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:09:04am
358 darthstar  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:09:28am
359 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:11:02am

re: #334 NJDhockeyfan

And now for something completely different…

There is a website where vegans out ex-vegans.

I had a vegan acquaintance who was absolutely insufferable toward anyone who ate or wore any animal products. His only friends were also vegans, as you can guess.

360 darthstar  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:12:35am


361 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:14:17am

re: #359 wheat-dogghazi

I had a vegan acquaintance who was absolutely insufferable toward anyone who ate or wore any animal products. His only friends were also vegans, as you can guess.

Most vegans seem to pretend that combine harvesters don’t chop the heads off bunnies and mice, and that animals aren’t drowned when rice fields are flooded, etc.

We all kill lots of animals to live the lives we lead, the only difference is in scale.

362 darthstar  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:14:40am
363 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:16:23am

re: #356 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Wow, the GOP house now cool with overriding constitutional protections. It’s their laser-like focus on jobs!

Anyway, Issa doesn’t actually want this to go on any further, since it’s been revealed he purposefully misrepresented what the IRS did.

And dude, seriously, Weasel Zippers? The place that, in response to Wendy Davis’s filibuster, is mocking her for wearing a catheter? You really read that shit?

Oh, shit. It was supposed to be a link to CNN. I changed it.

364 darthstar  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:16:26am
365 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:16:30am

re: #361 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

It’s the circle of life, Simba …

366 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:16:32am

re: #361 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Most vegans seem to pretend that combine harvesters don’t chop the heads off bunnies and mice, and that animals aren’t drowned when rice fields are flooded, etc.

We all kill lots of animals to live the lives we lead, the only difference is in scale.

PETA had a whole ad campaign about “Treblinka of the Chickens” while operating an Auschwitz for cats and dogs.

367 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:17:21am

re: #366 Vicious Babushka

PETA also believes all Pitbulls should be put down.

368 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:18:31am

Edward Snowden’s father ‘reasonably confident’ son will return to US

telegraph.co.uk

he is reasonably confident his son would return to the US if certain conditions are met. Conditions could include not detaining Edward before trial, not subjecting him to a gag order and letting him choose the location of his trial,

Umm,, how about No, no and ,,umm,, no!

Mr Snowden Sr also said he is concerned that his son,,,,, was being manipulated by others, including people from the anti-government secrecy group WikiLeaks.

huh,,, ya think!?!?!

369 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:18:33am

re: #367 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

PETA also believes all Pitbulls should be put down.

PETA people are as bad as uber-vegans.

370 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:18:37am

PETA is just a talent agency for heterosexual porno. Have you noticed they never allow fat chicks or gay men to participate in their naked protests?

371 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:18:38am

re: #367 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

PETA also believes all Pitbulls should be put down.

That sounds more like “Animals for the Ethical Treatment of People”.

372 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:18:57am

re: #361 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Most vegans seem to pretend that combine harvesters don’t chop the heads off bunnies and mice, and that animals aren’t drowned when rice fields are flooded, etc.

We all kill lots of animals to live the lives we lead, the only difference is in scale.

I worked with a vegan/member of PETA who got upset if anyone killed anything as small as a fly or wasp. Her husband wore a leather coat which was funny. She wouldn’t touch him when he wore that.

373 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:19:03am

re: #363 NJDhockeyfan

Oh, shit. It was supposed to be a link to CNN. I changed it.

But why read that shitty site in the first place? It spins everything with the most contemptible, sneering, racist wingnut attitude.

374 darthstar  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:19:33am

Zimmerman’s lawyer was a lot more polite to the white guy who took the stand this morning. What’s up with that?

375 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:19:34am

re: #292 Mattand

I mean, I don’t ever recall assassination being a core tenant of libertarianism.

It’s one of those things they don’t want written down because they know it would make them look bad. But, from what I’ve seen, they all believe it.

376 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:20:15am

Before one of his North African battles, Julius Caeser inspired his troops by eating a delicious meal and telling them dick jokes.

This is true.

377 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:20:22am

re: #370 Vicious Babushka

PETA is just a talent agency for heterosexual porno. Have you noticed they never allow fat chicks or gay men to participate in their naked protests?

Image: peta-save-the-whales-closeup.jpg

378 SidewaysQuark  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:20:27am

re: #262 Joanne

bcaplan.com

I scored a 12.

I am shocked by some of those questions. That test did nothing but reinforce that Libertarians are crazy.

I had a date with a Libertarian once (we met through an online dating site) and, whew, I spent the entire dinner absorbing the Libertarian utopia. I thought I leaned Libertarian before that. I learned that I was wrong. All I kept thinking all throughout dinner was, why am I not home washing my hair?!? After dinner I excused myself from the remainder of the date.

EDIT: I love how a score of 12 out of 160 means that I am leaning Libertarian and I should explore it. Riiiiiiight.

I scored an 18. Apparently I’m on my way to becoming libertarian too (hahaha)

379 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:20:49am

re: #375 Romantic Heretic

It’s one of those things they don’t want written down because they know it would make them look bad. But, from what I’ve seen, they all believe it.

TGDN let the cat out of the bag when they were Tweeting all those Fake Quotes about how the 2nd Amendment was needed so that “The People” could USE THERE GUNZ AGAINST TEH TYRANNY!!11!!

380 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:21:22am

re: #372 NJDhockeyfan

I worked with a vegan/member of PETA who got upset if anyone killed anything as small as a fly or wasp. Her husband wore a leather coat which was funny. She wouldn’t touch him when he wore that.

Wasps and I don’t get along. I’ve been stung so many times by the buggers that any wasp nest near my flat gets sprayed with insecticide.

Flies I’ll tolerate, as long as they stay off my food.

381 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:22:01am

re: #373 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

But why read that shitty site in the first place? It spins everything with the most contemptible, sneering, racist wingnut attitude.

I just surf around including far left and far right blogs. Don’t most people on here do the same?

382 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:23:34am

re: #380 wheat-dogghazi

Wasps and I don’t get along. I’ve been stung so many times by the buggers that any wasp nest near my flat gets sprayed with insecticide.

Flies I’ll tolerate, as long as they stay off my food.

If these idiots get lice or crabs, do they kill them or ‘relocate’ them?

383 Political Atheist  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:23:39am

re: #356 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Wow, the GOP house now cool with overriding constitutional protections.

I was curious about that legality. Found this, as usual Issa is F.O.S.

Gowdy’s outraged objection was met with applause in the courtroom. But James Duane, a Fifth Amendment expert at Regent University, says Gowdy’s claim was “extremely imaginative” but “mistaken.”

Had this been an actual criminal trial, in an actual courtroom, and had Lerner been an actual defendant, then yes, it would not have been permissible for her to testify in her own defense and then refuse cross-examination on Fifth Amendment grounds. But a congressional hearing is not a criminal trial in two important ways, Duane tells Daily Intelligencer.

First, unlike in a trial, where she could choose to take the stand or not, Lerner had no choice but to appear before the committee. Second, in a trial there would be a justifiable concern about compromising a judge or jury by providing them with “selective, partial presentation of the facts.” But Congress is merely pursuing information as part of an investigation, not making a definitive ruling on Lerner’s guilt or innocence.

“When somebody is in this situation,” says Duane, a Harvard Law graduate whose 2008 lecture on invoking the Fifth Amendment with police has been viewed on YouTube nearly 2.5 million times, “when they are involuntarily summoned before grand jury or before legislative body, it is well settled that they have a right to make a ‘selective invocation,’ as it’s called, with respect to questions that they think might raise a meaningful risk of incriminating themselves.”

In fact, Duane says, “even if Ms. Lerner had given answers to a few questions — five, ten, twenty questions — before she decided, ‘That’s where I draw the line, I’m not answering any more questions,’ she would be able to do that as well.” Such uses of selective invocation “happen all the time.”

nymag.com

384 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:23:46am

re: #381 NJDhockeyfan

I just surf around including far left and far right blogs. Don’t most people on here do the same?

Ah, so you were presenting that article as an example of GOP hypocrisy and overreach, then?

385 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:23:52am

My Internet has slowed to a crawl all of a sudden. Must be all that NSA hacking …

386 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:23:54am

re: #381 NJDhockeyfan

I just surf around including far left and far right blogs. Don’t most people on here do the same?

No, I just scan Teh Twitterz.

387 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:23:56am

re: #381 NJDhockeyfan

I just surf around including far left and far right blogs. Don’t most people on here do the same?

Not me

It’s here, porn, then a nap!

(wait ,,, did I just type that out loud!?!)

388 SidewaysQuark  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:23:59am

re: #380 wheat-dogghazi

Wasps and I don’t get along. I’ve been stung so many times by the buggers that any wasp nest near my flat gets sprayed with insecticide.

Flies I’ll tolerate, as long as they stay off my food.

I think any creature that breeds as a result of human pollution/garbage is fair game to exterminate. Any other kind of bug, etc. I find in my house I try to release outside.

389 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:25:38am

re: #386 Vicious Babushka

No, I just scan Teh Twitterz Fischerz.

ftfy

390 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:26:47am
391 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:26:56am

re: #386 Vicious Babushka

No, I just scan Teh Twitterz.

Twitter got blocked today at the office.I have to wait till later to read tweets.

392 GunstarGreen  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:27:05am

re: #115 Kragar

Hardcore douche nozzle

Well it was an interesting ‘test’ to take, right up until I started reading the author’s analysis of early response data. When he starts talking about the results of the “Are worker safety regulations too strict” question, he notes that only 50% of early respondents said yes — and then wonders if it’s “paternalism (are workers too dumb to decide if a job is too risky for them?)” or “cultural residue of the Marxist interpretation of the labor contract as inherently anti-worker”.

Nah, couldn’t possibly be because we’re familiar with the history of labor in this country and believe that private business has proven, time and time again, that it will gladly maim and/or kill its workers in the name of profit unless the government steps in and forces them to care.

Scored a 26, which the test author considers to be ‘soft-core libertarian’. Primarily, I believe that government is legitimate, and its proper role and function is to provide for the common welfare and safety — you know, sort of what the US constitution says it is. I believe in free business, but I also know that business absolutely will abuse workers/the public unless there are laws preventing it from doing so, and that such laws fall in the purview of “the common welfare and safety”. I believe that there is a legitimate reason to have a military for the country, but that the reason is defense, not world-policing or ideological enforcement/promotion.

393 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:27:12am

re: #389 sattv4u2

I submit that Fischer has become the primary source for every narrow-minded, hateful comment on the Internet.

394 Weet  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:36:51am

re: #342 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

All those tests are 99% bullshit. There’s no way of graphing something this complex on a Cartesian coordinate system.

Totally agree. Not to mention there’s this little issue of ‘defining terms’. So many issues are more complex than the answers allow. I find myself answering, “Well, that depends…” on many of them.

That said, I get a 9 on the idiotic “We want to make you a Libertarian” test, and -5.88, -6.10 on the ‘compass’.

395 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:37:35am
396 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:40:19am

re: #394 Weet

I find myself answering, “Well, that depends…” on many of them.

Yup.

There should have been an option for a response between Agree and Disagree

397 dragonath  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:41:40am

re: #394 Weet

I don’t know how that Political Compass site gets linked to, again and again. I think the first time I ever saw it was almost a decade ago, and it’s very hard to score “conservative” on it, unless you’re Adolf himself. It’s one big push poll.

398 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:43:27am

re: #397 dragonath

I don’t know how that Political Compass site gets linked to, again and again. i think the first time I ever saw it was almost a decade ago, and it’s nearly impossible to score “conservative” on it. It’s one big push poll.

Also, how did they get the scores of Obama and Romney? It’s very doubtful that they actually took the survey. Probably one of the admins of the site “pretended” to be them.

399 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:44:48am

The Word: Dax Shepard, PETA’s Sexiest Vegetarian, eats meat

Whoops! Before PETA named Dax Shepard and Kristen Bell its Sexiest Vegetarians, it should have checked Dax’s qualifications. He is a very handsome man, but he eats meat.

“I’m really flattered to be named “Sexiest Vegetarian” with @IMKristenBell, but sadly I can’t accept in good conscience because I eat chicken,” he tweeted sheepishly yesterday.

He added, “I was vegan for a year, but that ended 6 months ago. I aspire to be more like @IMKristenBell , but I’m not there yet.”

400 Mattand  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:45:24am

re: #375 Romantic Heretic

It’s one of those things they don’t want written down because they know it would make them look bad. But, from what I’ve seen, they all believe it.

Yeesh. If that’s the case, just call one’s self an anarchist and be done with it.

401 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:46:03am

re: #388 SidewaysQuark

I think any creature that breeds as a result of human pollution/garbage is fair game to exterminate. Any other kind of bug, etc. I find in my house I try to release outside.

So the other night, I’m minding my own business and then a Airbus A380 European hornet flies through my window and begins buzzing around the apartment. Huge flying thing - about a good 2.5 inches long. It checked out the computer then it made one last circuit around the room before flying out the window.

Fly swatter? Hahahahahaha!! It would’ve grabbed it away and started chasing me around the apartment with it.

402 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:46:13am

re: #386 Vicious Babushka

No, I just scan Teh Twitterz.

My range is from militia sites through Black Bloc, but I try to use caches as much as possible.

403 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:47:23am

Muslim Brotherhood offices attacked

Three members of Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood were killed in violence over the past day, a spokesman for the group said.

The deaths come as President Mohamed Morsy, who hails from the Muslim Brotherhood, completes his first year in office.

Two people were shot dead Thursday when armed men attacked the Muslim Brotherhood officers in Zagazig, Morsy’s hometown, spokesman Gihad Haddad said.

The identity of the shooters is unknown, but Haddad said witnesses heard the gunmen shouting “down with Morsy.”

404 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:48:10am

re: #401 Dr Lizardo

So the other night, I’m minding my own business and then a Airbus A380 European hornet flies through my window and begins buzzing around the apartment. Huge flying thing - about a good 2.5 inches long. I checked out the computer then it made one last circuit around the room before flying out the window.

Fly swatter? Hahahahahaha!! It would’ve grabbed it away and started chasing me around the apartment with it.

I Google image searched that. HOLY SHIT! You wouldn’t expect to find a monster like that in Central Europe. That thing belongs in Australia.

405 Mattand  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:50:41am

re: #381 NJDhockeyfan

I just surf around including far left and far right blogs. Don’t most people on here do the same?

Not really, particularly in the case of the far right blogs. There’s enough hate sites dedicated to bigotry on the net as it is.

406 Lidane  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:51:44am

The Republicans are going to lose another hashtag today.

407 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:52:30am

re: #406 Lidane

The Republicans are going to lose another hastag today.

ALLOWS?

408 GunstarGreen  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:52:34am

re: #406 Lidane

Damnit, and here I’m all out of popcorn.

409 dragonath  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:52:52am

I see that Christie Christie and Most Useless Democrat Ever Steve Sweeney are teaming up to dissolve the 250 year old Rutgers Board of Trustees.

Rutgers Restructuring Turns Ugly

Characterizing it as “unconscionable,” “unconstitutional,” and “illegal,” the Rutgers University Board of Trustees roundly denounced a bill that’s been fast-tracked by legislative leaders without a committee review. The measure seeks to abolish the board and transfer its authority to the school’s Board of Governors.

The legislation was formally introduced Monday by Senate President Steve Sweeney (D-Gloucester), who is being accused of seeking revenge after the board thwarted his proposal to split off Rutgers-Camden and join it with Rowan University.

Sweeney, of course, is the guy whose previous “deal” was broken and subsequently ignored by Christie. He, and his idiotic turf wars, are the vehicles used to screw over NJ Democrats.

410 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:52:57am

re: #406 Lidane

The Republicans are going to lose another hastag today.

We need to be a party that allows talented women to rise to the top. #WomenAreRight

I think “women on top” makes you a pervert in TPGOPland.

411 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:54:06am

I really don’t think this is a good idea.

Barney Frank Backs Heroin Legalization, Has ‘Never Been Tempted’ To Try It

412 lawhawk  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:54:58am

Sweet Jeebus:

413 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:55:01am

re: #401 Dr Lizardo

So the other night, I’m minding my own business and then a Airbus A380 European hornet flies through my window and begins buzzing around the apartment. Huge flying thing - about a good 2.5 inches long. It checked out the computer then it made one last circuit around the room before flying out the window.

Fly swatter? Hahahahahaha!! It would’ve grabbed it away and started chasing me around the apartment with it.

Now you know why the name Hornet has been popular over the years for lots of fighter aircraft of various nations. Nasty mean and big…

A real fright it the Japanese giant hornet which makes the European one look tiny and friendly O_o

414 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:55:07am

re: #404 Vicious Babushka

I Google image searched that. HOLY SHIT! You wouldn’t expect to find a monster like that in Central Europe. That thing belongs in Australia.

I was surprised; I figured it best not to antagonize it and just let it go on its merry way. It’s pretty big - glad my girlfriend wasn’t here at the time, as she would’ve likely had a massive panic attack. She hates all flying things, including butterflies, which particularly terrify her, and I recall once her being stung by a bumblebee that got caught in her hair.

415 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:55:09am

re: #411 NJDhockeyfan

I really don’t think this is a good idea.

Barney Frank Backs Heroin Legalization, Has ‘Never Been Tempted’ To Try It

I actually don’t disagree with him. But this is an issue I admit to being radical on.

416 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:57:01am

re: #413 William Barnett-Lewis

Now you know why the name Hornet has been popular over the years for lots of fighter aircraft of various nations. Nasty mean and big…

A real fright it the Japanese giant hornet which makes the European one look tiny and friendly O_o

I’ve seen video of the Japanese giant hornet - yikes. I read a few months ago they’ve (or perhaps another species of Asian hornet) started turning up in Southern France of all places, scaring the locals shitless.

417 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:57:17am

re: #411 NJDhockeyfan

I really don’t think this is a good idea.

Barney Frank Backs Heroin Legalization, Has ‘Never Been Tempted’ To Try It

Hard drugs are either a crime or a medical problem—and that should not depend on whether you can afford the Betty Ford Clinic.

418 GunstarGreen  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:58:10am

re: #415 HappyWarrior

I actually don’t disagree. But this is an issue I admit to being radical on.

Way I see it? It’s perfectly legal to become debilitatingly addicted to alcohol and absolutely ruin your liver in the process, being a belligerant drunkard with known contributions to domestic violence — we just make sure to punish you for doing that in public, or letting it get out of hand to the point you start harming other people.

Are hard drugs really so different?

419 darthstar  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:58:11am
420 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:58:19am

re: #417 Decatur Deb

Hard drugs are either a crime or a medical problem—and that should not depend on whether you can afford the Betty Ford Clinic.

Right, I feel they’re a medical problem.

421 darthstar  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:58:58am

re: #419 darthstar

That’s one big-ass grasshopper.

422 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:59:02am

re: #418 GunstarGreen

Way I see it? It’s perfectly legal to become debilitatingly addicted to alcohol and absolutely ruin your liver in the process, being a belligerant drunkard with known contributions to domestic violence — we just make sure to punish you for doing that in public, or letting it get out of hand to the point you start harming other people.

Are hard drugs really so different?

Yes, this is how I see it. Frankly if heroin were to become legal tomorrow. I’d have no desire to try it.

423 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:59:15am

re: #419 darthstar

Who made those drawings?

424 dragonath  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:59:43am

re: #421 darthstar

That’s one big-ass grasshopper.

Mutant Atheist Grasshopper for President

425 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:59:49am

re: #419 darthstar

Is that why they’re called ‘French’ poodles?

426 Joanne  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:00:28am

re: #293 Decatur Deb

Are we talking about more than one test right now? Don’t see ‘160’ scale anywhere.

It’s the point scale. 30 x 1, 20 x 3, 13 x 5 or so. I think I got 155. I took 160 from what Bryan Fisher said (although that should have clued me into questionable accuracy).

427 darthstar  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:00:38am

re: #423 Vicious Babushka

Who made those drawings?

Stole it from balloon juice

balloon-juice.com

428 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:00:56am

re: #421 darthstar

That’s one big-ass grasshopper.

It’s not a grasshopper - it’s a Martian from “Quatermass and the Pit”.

429 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:01:59am
430 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:03:52am

re: #355 NJDhockeyfan

House committee votes IRS official waived Fifth Amendment right

Imagine the RWNJ insanity that would ensure if this headline read:

Senate Committee votes GOP official waived Second Amendment Right

431 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:04:21am

re: #419 darthstar

Good GOD. Please tell me that’s a parody.

432 Joanne  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:04:32am

re: #375 Romantic Heretic

It’s one of those things they don’t want written down because they know it would make them look bad. But, from what I’ve seen, they all believe it.

Not only that, but this guy is supposed to be the defense “star witness” (which is why the state put him on first), so, as Good (the witness) was changing his story, it was simply new recollections, nothing to see here, no impeachment. He did the same thing the other witnesses did in response to questions and in discussing the differences in their varied statements. They made Rachel, you know, the chick from The Hood, out to be a liar (not to mention stupid, which she clearly was not; inelequent yes, but hardly stupid), but this guy, who did exactly what the other witnesses have done, is all wine and roses.

It was a main course of hypocrisy with a huge side of irony.

433 Gus  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:04:55am

re: #419 darthstar

What in the what? Are those people fer reals? I mean the Facebook page.

434 GunstarGreen  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:05:58am

re: #433 Gus

What in the what? Are those people fer reals? I mean the Facebook page.

This Is What Christian Fundamentalists Actually Believe.

435 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:08:30am

re: #431 Eclectic Cyborg

Good GOD. Please tell me that’s a parody.

I don’t think it is. I’ve seen this before I think. Really, I see this pathetic argument made by marriage equality opponents all the time and it’s just so stupid. Really if you think marriage to a consenting human being is like marrying an animal then you’re a moron who shouldn’t be taken seriously.

436 Gus  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:08:41am

re: #434 GunstarGreen

This Is What Christian Fundamentalists Actually Believe.

A rather perverted imagination.

437 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:08:42am

re: #433 Gus

What in the what? Are those people fer reals? I mean the Facebook page.

It’s the way the animals’ eyes are closed blissfully that really gets me.

I mean, those look like they were drawn by someone who, well, really didn’t view the subject negatively.

438 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:09:12am

You may kiss the duck.
quack!

439 GeneJockey  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:09:39am

re: #419 darthstar

Brings new meaning to ‘Love Bug’.

440 Bulworth  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:10:03am

re: #412 lawhawk

Didn’t Reagan support an “amnesty” immigration bill in ‘86?

441 geoffm33  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:11:08am

Texas woman indicted in ricin letter-to-Obama case

442 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:11:11am

re: #440 Bulworth

Didn’t Reagan support an “amnesty” immigration bill in ‘86?

signed it I believe.

443 dragonath  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:14:17am

re: #437 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

It’s the way the animals’ eyes are closed blissfully that really gets me.

I mean, those look like they were drawn by someone who, well, really didn’t view the subject negatively.

Wouldn’t you like to do it with a sentient consenting grasshopper?

444 GeneJockey  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:15:17am

re: #440 Bulworth

Didn’t Reagan support an “amnesty” immigration bill in ‘86?

Simpson-Mazzoli, IIRC. Yeah. And in the 1984 campaign, he said, “I believe in the idea of amnesty for those who have put down roots and who have lived here even though sometime back they may have entered illegally.”

445 Bulworth  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:15:18am

re: #433 Gus

One of my twitters said this picture was originally intended as a parody but then the Christianists got a hold of it and then….

446 Lidane  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:15:33am

And it begins:





447 Gus  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:17:14am

re: #437 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

It’s the way the animals’ eyes are closed blissfully that really gets me.

I mean, those look like they were drawn by someone who, well, really didn’t view the subject negatively.

Saiman Chow - Summer of Love

Derp. So some weirdo went out looking for zoophillia pics and slapped that together.

448 Kragar  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:22:38am

American Decency Association: DOMA Decision Just Like Pearl Harbor - See more at: rightwingwatch.org

No, its not.

449 dragonath  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:23:47am

re: #448 Kragar

American Decency Association: DOMA Decision Just Like Pearl Harbor - See more at: rightwingwatch.org

No, its not.

You obviously haven’t met the amorous anteaters yet

450 Interesting Times  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:24:18am
451 Bulworth  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:24:26am

re: #448 Kragar

There’s an American Decency Association? Ah, just another conservative “less government” group. /

452 Gus  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:24:53am
453 Kragar  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:25:06am

re: #451 Bulworth

There’s an American Decency Association? Ah, just another conservative “less government” group. /

I wonder if their motto is “THINK OF THE CHILDREN!”?

454 Gus  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:25:16am

We now know why Obama attacked Romney for wanting to cut funding for PBS. It’s another propaganda outlet—this one promoting the gay lifestyle to children— using our own tax money.

455 Bulworth  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:26:15am

re: #452 Gus

“Powerful Conservative Voices”!!!!

Powerful!!!

456 dragonath  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:26:53am

American Decency Association

Who let the ni*CLANG*s into my all-white moving pictures, Phyllis?

457 Kragar  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:26:59am

re: #455 Bulworth

“Powerful Conservative Voices”!!!!

Powerful!!!

LOUD NOISES!

458 Lidane  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:27:22am

re: #453 Kragar

I wonder if there motto is “THINK OF THE CHILDREN!”?

Youtube Video

459 Bulworth  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:27:30am

re: #454 Gus

The gubmit funds The New Yorker?

//

460 jaunte  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:29:36am

re: #455 Bulworth

“Powerful Conservative Voices”!!!!

Powerful!!!

Being tracked constantly by Karl Rove’s robot algorithms.

461 GeneJockey  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:30:14am

re: #459 Bulworth

The gubmit funds The New Yorker?

//

Well, duh. Of course! Why else would the ignore important stories like Obama’s Birth Certificate, or his gayness, or BENGHAZIIIIIII!!!!!!!!11!!1! ?
//

462 Dr. Matt  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:31:01am
463 Joanne  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:31:24am

re: #420 HappyWarrior

Right, I feel they’re a medical problem.

On this I guess I am full Libertarian. I see drugs as a choice. For some a medical problem (like drinking). Many people drink with no problems (me, I drink a glass or two of whatever a month…if that. If coke was legal, I might do that once or twice a year. Can’t say heroin ever did much for my imagination to get me to try it. I prefer to be peppy vs. sleepy.)

You can’t say one drug of choice (alcohol) is ok, but others are not.

Just MHO.

464 lawhawk  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:34:11am

re: #416 Dr Lizardo

See and call.

Cicada killer wasps. I’ve seen these bad boys in PA and Southern NJ though they’re not dangerous to people.

465 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:35:58am

re: #464 lawhawk

See and call.

Cicada killer wasps. I’ve seen these bad boys in PA and Southern NJ though they’re not dangerous to people.

Don’t they provide a useful function during cicada infestations?

466 lawhawk  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:36:37am
467 Kragar  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:36:48am

Staver: DOMA Decision Akin To Rulings In Favor Of Slavery, Internment and Sterilization - See more at: rightwingwatch.org

468 lawhawk  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:37:24am

re: #465 Vicious Babushka

Sure, but if you’re not familiar with them, all you’re seeing is a wasp that is about the size of your hand….

469 Joanne  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:37:36am

re: #450 Interesting Times

Forgive me for being dense here, but is that #WomenAreRight hashtag parody? I mean the GOP wasn’t that stupid to do that, right? (Praying: oh please let it be real. Please. Please. Please!)

470 Lidane  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:37:48am
471 Kragar  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:38:35am

Rick Perry Was ‘Praising’ Wendy Davis

Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) on Friday explained that he was simply “praising” state Sen. Wendy Davis (D) when he said it was “unfortunate” that she didn’t view abortions unfavorably based on her own experience as a teenage mother.

In a statement to the New York Daily News, the governor’s office explained that he was “praising Sen. Davis for her success despite coming from difficult circumstances.”

472 Lidane  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:38:51am
473 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:39:07am

re: #468 lawhawk

Sure, but if you’re not familiar with them, all you’re seeing is a wasp that is about the size of your hand….

I would totally freak out.

474 GeneJockey  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:39:34am

re: #465 Vicious Babushka

Don’t they provide a useful function during cicada infestations?

I imagine there are too few of them to do much more than profit immensely from a large infestation.

475 Interesting Times  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:39:56am

re: #469 Joanne

Forgive me for being dense here, but is that #WomenAreRight hashtag parody? I mean the GOP wasn’t that stupid to do that, right? (Praying: oh please let it be real. Please. Please. Please!)

Prayer answered.

476 lawhawk  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:40:02am

re: #469 Joanne

It’s the real deal:

477 Kragar  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:41:08am

re: #473 Vicious Babushka

I would totally freak out.

A buddy of mine, 6’2”, 190lb Marine, walked into a banana spider web and it crawled up into his helmet.

He screamed and cried like a little girl, in full field gear, in the middle of a jungle.

It was some funny funny shit.

478 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:41:22am

I hate May Flies, or as I call them, Flying Dust Bunnies.

479 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:41:56am
480 jaunte  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:42:31am
481 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:42:42am

re: #469 Joanne

Forgive me for being dense here, but is that #WomenAreRight hashtag parody? I mean the GOP wasn’t that stupid to do that, right? (Praying: oh please let it be real. Please. Please. Please!)

Real, I think. Women are Right, wink, wink.

482 GeneJockey  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:42:54am

re: #464 lawhawk

See and call.

Cicada killer wasps. I’ve seen these bad boys in PA and Southern NJ though they’re not dangerous to people.

And it’s things like this that make me fucking LOVE biology - OF COURSE there’s a wasp big enough to take down a cicada and fly with it. Life goes where there’s food.

483 Joanne  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:43:32am

re: #475 Interesting Times

re: #476 lawhawk

Uhm. Thanks. And. Wow.

I am speechless. The GOP has accomplished what my husband has only dreamed of. :-)

484 jaunte  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:43:35am

re: #481 Decatur Deb

Wordplay proves women are natural conservatives!

485 Lidane  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:44:43am

re: #480 jaunte

486 Kragar  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:44:44am

#womenareright Rick Perry is full of shit

487 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:44:49am

re: #484 jaunte

Wordplay proves women are natural conservatives!

Foreplay proves women are natural lefties.

488 jaunte  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:45:53am

re: #485 Lidane

“Who leaked our diplomatic documents!”

489 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:46:43am

Sigh. We have another one going way off the deep end again this morning.

490 Joanne  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:47:34am

re: #477 Kragar

I was in Belize some years ago and there was a scorpion spider in my bathroom. I am petrified of spiders to start with. This guy was almost 5” across. I paced back and forth, hiking boot in hand, saying “you can do this, you can kill it, you are bigger, you can do this!” Alas, I couldn’t.

So I get one of the maids (a Guatemalan woman who stood maybe 4’9”) who came in with a broom and whacked at it. It took off (probably going about 50 MPH…can you say FREAKED. ME. OUT!?) I screamed and hightailed it out of my room.

True fact: I am afraid to kill spiders because I fear their families will come kill me in my sleep. Yes, I am a true arachnophobic.

491 Kragar  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:47:45am

Woman jailed for late-night water purchase after anti-sexual assault rally

A University of Virginia student was arrested on multiple felony charges and spent 24 hours in jail after she tried to flee a grocery store parking lot when agents attempted to arrest her for buying a case of La Croix water. According to the Charlottesville Daily Progress, 20-year-old Elizabeth Daly and her two roommates panicked when plainclothes Alcoholic Beverage Control officers surrounded their vehicle, flashing badges and weapons because the officers believed the women had purchased beer during dry hours.

On Sunday night, April 11, around 10:30 p.m., Daly and her friends left a Charlottesville, Virginia Harris Teeter store carrying cookie dough, ice cream and a case of bottled water. As they reached the vehicle, ABC agents surrounded them, one even jumping on to the hood of Daly’s SUV. They showed badges, shouting at the women to exit the vehicle. One agent drew a gun.

Daly and the other passengers had just come from a “Take Back the Night” event on campus, where they heard the testimonies of dozens of survivors of sexual assaults and other violent attacks. With the details of those crimes fresh in their minds, the women believed that their safety was in danger.

Dry hours? An office of Alcohol control? What kind of prohibition horse shit is this? I hope the girls sue the fuck out of these bastards for wrongful arrest.

492 stabby  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:48:18am

re: #419 darthstar

Damn Republican furries!

…

They tried to warn you about satanic ducks, but would you listen?

493 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:48:45am

Masdagascar hissing cockroaches. (Scared to even Google it)

494 Gus  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:49:19am

re: #485 Lidane

Good. Thank you Ecuador. Hope this lasts.

495 Kragar  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:50:02am

re: #493 Vicious Babushka

Masdagascar hissing cockroaches. (Scared to even Google it)

Giant Isopods creep me the fuck out.

Image: 969104893_ce24683de5_o.jpg

496 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:50:50am

Looks like we may have a real-life case of “The Terminal.” Except that Sheremetyevo is a really shitty airport, not as nice as JFK or Heathrow or CDG.

Sux 2 B Snowden.

497 lawhawk  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:51:01am

re: #495 Kragar

Sweet jeebus, that would give HR Geiger the creeps (or the inspiration to create face huggers and other aliens).

498 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:51:45am

re: #495 Kragar

Giant Isopods creep me the fuck out.

Image: 969104893_ce24683de5_o.jpg

Have you tried them with drawn butter?

499 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:51:53am

re: #493 Vicious Babushka

Masdagascar hissing cockroaches. (Scared to even Google it)

When Grand-daughter Two was 6, she got to handle one at a National Zoo lecture, grossing out the boys. Sadly, she has turned to peer approval since.

500 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:52:47am

re: #496 Vicious Babushka

Looks like we may have a real-life case of “The Terminal.” Except that Sheremetyevo is a really shitty airport, not as nice as JFK or Heathrow or CDG.

Sux 2 B Snowden.

If there isn’t a shower there he must stink to high heaven by now.

501 Kragar  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:53:40am

re: #497 lawhawk

Sweet jeebus, that would give HR Geiger the creeps (or the inspiration to create face huggers and other aliens).

Its a well known fact they curl into balls and roll around on land as they hunt their prey. They can leap up to 30’ and attach themselves to their victims face as they feed on the soft tissue and dig into the eyes.

Sure, most “scientists” say they are harmless bottom feeders like lobsters, but some of us know the truth.

502 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:53:48am

re: #500 NJDhockeyfan

If there isn’t a shower there he must stink to high heaven by now.

They seem to have one of those hive-like micro-hotels.

503 GeneJockey  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:55:35am

re: #502 Decatur Deb

They seem to have one of those hive-like micro-hotels.

Hmmm, sleeping in a roomy coffin.

504 jaunte  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:56:39am

Maybe Snowden and Assange can get into pirate radio deejaying.

505 Weet  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:57:27am

re: #499 Decatur Deb

When Grand-daughter Two was 6, she got to handle one at a National Zoo lecture, grossing out the boys. Sadly, she has turned to peer approval since.

When I was 5, I picked up the biggest crawdad around and scared all of the boys with it. :-) I was taught how to pick them up, and was never afraid of them.

506 Mattand  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:57:36am

re: #491 Kragar

Woman jailed for late-night water purchase after anti-sexual assault rally

Dry hours? An office of Alcohol control? What kind of prohibition horse shit is this? I hope the girls sue the fuck out of these bastards for wrongful arrest.

VA at times seems to be vying for crazy state status like TX, FL, and AZ.

507 lawhawk  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:58:12am

Unreliable witness evidence continues at Zimmerman murder trial (did you expect anything different?)


This time, it’s a witness who initially claimed to have seen Martin wailing away at Zimmerman with punch after punch, who later recanted that he never actually saw a punch thrown, and still later claimed it was too dark to see who had yelled out for help because it was too dark on the sidewalk.

Zimmerman supporters will take away from this that he still claimed that Martin was on top and gave Zimmerman reason to be fearful, but prosecutors and Martin supporters can show that this witness couldn’t tell for sure - couldn’t see clearly who was on top, and has told multiple versions of the events in question. No way to know who was on top, but certainly that no punches were thrown.

508 Weet  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:58:25am

re: #500 NJDhockeyfan

If there isn’t a shower there he must stink to high heaven by now.

Spit bath.

509 Joanne  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 11:03:07am

re: #502 Decatur Deb

They seem to have one of those hive-like micro-hotels.

And SleepBoxes (free standing pods).

510 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 11:05:47am

re: #509 Joanne

And SleepBoxes (free standing pods).

“OK Sasha. Seal it, stamp it, and ship it to Alexandria.”

511 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 11:10:47am

re: #477 Kragar

A buddy of mine, 6’2”, 190lb Marine, walked into a banana spider web and it crawled up into his helmet.

He screamed and cried like a little girl, in full field gear, in the middle of a jungle.

It was some funny funny shit.

EVERYBODY is a kung fu expert when walking into a spiderweb…

512 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 11:13:44am

re: #511 Backwoods_Sleuth

EVERYBODY is a kung fu expert when walking into a spiderweb…

So I had this girlfriend who was a goth. And she took me out to this goth bar, and it was a pretty cool place. And the goths there decided to have a kind of ironic who-is-gothiest competition but you could tell some of them really took it seriously. So they went on, like, fucked on a grave, drank blood, etc., and then there was this girl sitting there all in pink, standing out vividly, and someone asked her, mockingly, “What makes you so much of a goth?” And the girl responds “I like it when I walk into a spiderweb.” and everyone else winced at once.

513 GeneJockey  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 11:47:22am

re: #512 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

So I had this girlfriend who was a goth. And she took me out to this goth bar, and it was a pretty cool place. And the goths there decided to have a kind of ironic who-is-gothiest competition but you could tell some of them really took it seriously. So they went on, like, fucked on a grave, drank blood, etc., and then there was this girl sitting there all in pink, standing out vividly, and someone asked her, mockingly, “What makes you so much of a goth?” And the girl responds “I like it when I walk into a spiderweb.” and everyone else winced at once.

Sounds like Gaz, all grown up.


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