Video: Jim DeMint Says Women Want Mandatory Vaginal Probes

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Not only do Jim DeMint and Ralph Reed say they’re in favor of forcing women who request abortions to have ultrasound probes, they say women want this.

It’s an amazingly revealing moment.

DeMint: She’s forgetting about the thousands of women who want an informed choice, who want the opportunity to get a free ultrasound, which they can get not from Planned Parenthood, but from a lot of these pregnancy centers.

These “pregnancy centers” to which DeMint refers are usually explicitly Christian facilities, that exist solely to scare, intimidate and mislead women out of choosing abortions.

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1 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 3:25:19pm

In which Jim DeMint and Ralph Reed mansplain the vaginal probing.

2 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 3:27:26pm

To the GOP: get out of my bedroom and out of my house. And do not let the door hit you on the way out.

3 jaunte  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 3:27:59pm

Demint begins with the biggest lie:
Gosnell case “shows the horrendous conditions inside these clinics.”

4 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 3:28:30pm

Freaks and perverts, all of them.

Note also how Demented generalizes the Gosnell case, “…horrendous conditions in these clinics…”

5 BroncD  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 3:29:05pm

I know it’s only June, but this has to be in the running for dumbest statement of the year.

6 jaunte  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 3:30:56pm

Maddow correctly points out to these throwbacks that they’re killing themselves with female voters, but they’ll have none of it.

7 HAL2010  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 3:31:34pm

OT:

8 Spocomptonite  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 3:31:42pm

I read one of Ralph Reed’s books once.

Even for fiction, it was ridiculously wishful thinking praising his own ideology.

9 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 3:32:26pm

Yeah, because Planned Parenthood is all about not giving women procedures that they want.

What the fuck kind of even logic is this shit.

10 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 3:34:17pm

GOP logic: All women secretly harbor primal rape fantasies.

FACT. CONFIRMED.

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11 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 3:36:49pm
12 A Mom Anon  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 3:37:33pm

re: #9 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

He’s flat out lying. The PP office near me does ultra sounds, they also provide full prenatal care. I’ve even seen them do sick child checkups and that kind of stuff if a mom is stuck and doesn’t have a pediatrician. He’s totally full of shit.

Proceed Congressman and your asshat friend, proceed.

13 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 3:38:10pm

re: #9 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Yeah, because Planned Parenthood is all about not giving women procedures that they want.

What the fuck kind of even logic is this shit.

Every day brings another statement like this. People still ask me why I renounced the right - I have to ask why anyone still supports this kind of caveman craziness. Seriously. What the fuck is wrong with these people.

14 jaunte  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 3:40:05pm

It takes a real effort to ignore the real life effects of what these guys do, and a huge number of GOP voters are willing to make it.

15 Targetpractice  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 3:40:20pm

GOP gets its ass tanned for, amongst other things, believing that abortion is unnecessary because rape doesn’t lead to pregnancy. Proceeds to keeping beating that dead horse because the base likes the noxious fluids coming from the bloated corpse.

16 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 3:41:27pm

And…

17 jaunte  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 3:45:09pm
“The more the ultrasounds have become part of the law, where a woman gets the opportunity to see that there’s a real child, it’s beginning to change minds, and I think that’s a good thing,” DeMint said on NBC’s Meet the Press. “It’s time that the 3,000 babies we lose every day have some people speaking up for them.”

Factcheck, stat!

18 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 3:45:12pm

re: #16 Gus

Gus you and Willie Wonka are having some fun with those statements.

19 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 3:46:16pm

re: #18 PhillyPretzel

Gus you and Willie Wonka are having some fun with those statements.

And his jacket matches my Twitter pic. //

20 Mattand  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 3:46:28pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

Every day brings another statement like this. People still ask me why I renounced the right - I have to ask why anyone still supports this kind of caveman craziness. Seriously. What the fuck is wrong with these people.

You’ve got four regulars here that I can think off, right off the bat, who either ignore this question or play No True Scotsman.

21 Targetpractice  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 3:46:38pm

re: #17 jaunte

Factcheck, stat!

Note DeMint’s not calling for increased social safety net spending to take care of those 3,000/day babies when they come to term.

22 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 3:46:46pm
23 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 3:47:42pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

Whew. When I first looked at that…

24 Heywood Jabloeme  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 3:48:21pm

They actually believe that this is true and what is worst, tehy think that many others do as well. That is why they are losing.

25 HAL2010  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 3:48:42pm
26 jaunte  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 3:48:44pm

Not just reaching, but penetrating.

Reaching all Americans with conservatives’ ‘bold, positive ideas’

Speaking to Heritage members in New York, Jim DeMint said conservatives should continue to push for “bold, positive ideas” based on timeless, American, conservative principles.

This means showing the American people that our principles work at all levels of government. States have not only served as sources of innovative new ideas — as in Wisconsin under Scott Walker — but they are also where most decisions ought to be made in our constitutional republic.

Too often, Washington politicians act based on what’s popular, not what’s right. But local politicians often have the ability to take bolder stands.

27 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 3:49:44pm

I vote for anal probes for Jim DeMint and Ralph Reed.
Or worse.
*spits*

28 jaunte  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 3:50:16pm

re: #27 Dancing along the light of day

It would give them an informed choice.

29 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 3:50:25pm

re: #27 Dancing along the light of day

I vote for anal probes for Jim DeMint and Ralph Reed.

You know they want it.

30 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 3:51:37pm

re: #27 Dancing along the light of day

I also vote for MRI of the skull to see if there is anything the resembles a functioning brain.

31 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 3:54:39pm

re: #30 PhillyPretzel

I also vote for MRI of the skull to see if there is anything the resembles a functioning brain.

Methinks their brains are NOT in their skulls…

32 Interesting Times  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 3:55:14pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

Methinks their brains are NOT in their skulls…

All the more reason to subject them to much-needed anal probes.

33 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 3:55:20pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

Methinks their brains are NOT in their skulls…

Well, it’s not in their pants either!

34 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 3:55:31pm

re: #18 PhillyPretzel

Gus you and Willie Wonka are having some fun with those statements.

Also!

35 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 3:56:00pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ahh. You think it may be in another part of their anatomy?

36 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 3:56:29pm

re: #33 Dancing along the light of day

Well, it’s not in their pants either!

Koch Inc is holding their brains and their souls in escrow.

37 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 3:57:03pm

re: #36 Decatur Deb

LOL!

38 Stanghazi  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 4:00:46pm
39 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 4:02:15pm

re: #38 Stanghazi

LOL!

40 SteveMcGazi  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 4:03:53pm

re: #38 Stanghazi

I had the over/under at 2567 AD. Looks like I won’t be collecting on that bet.

41 Ming  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 4:03:58pm

re: #9 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Yeah, because Planned Parenthood is all about not giving women procedures that they want.

What the fuck kind of even logic is this shit.

Good point. This contradicts oft-repeated Republican rhetoric, against government meddling in the free market. As the rhetoric goes, who knows better “what the market wants”, a heavy-handled government, or a private organization like Planned Parenthood? But that’s not what they’re saying now.

In my opinion, this is a fundamental problem for the GOP: the clash between small-government “libertarians” or whatever, and the “let’s have a big-government Christian theocracy” crowd. This is a major point of conflict, and it’s not going to go away by itself. As we already know here at LGF, it’s fascinating to see how this GOP-on-GOP conflict plays out.

42 Amory Blaine  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 4:05:11pm

I love Gene Wilder’s gentle yet maniacal demeanor.

43 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 4:05:22pm

re: #26 jaunte

Too often, Washington politicians act based on what’s popular, not what’s right. But local politicians often have the ability to take bolder stands.

Because the true measure of a democratic government is how much unpopular stuff it does.

44 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 4:05:35pm

re: #41 Ming

Yes, we know how this works out…
for the Democrats!

45 SteveMcGazi  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 4:05:53pm

re: #42 Amory Blaine

I think the Waco Kid was just like Willie Wonka.

46 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 4:06:58pm

re: #38 Stanghazi

That does remind me that the whole “creeping sharia”, Islamification, global caliphate thing does have a shred of truth to it. Early on in the Muslim brotherhood their plan was to slowly prime societies in Muslim countries for theocratic rules and religious civil laws. I think some fringe groups did try to expand the idea to encompass the West but that was never a realistic plan. Fortunately it seems the Muslim Bros failed and hopefully won’t be given a second chance in Egypt.

47 Stanghazi  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 4:07:11pm

re: #39 Dr Lizardo

LOL!

re: #40 SteveMcGazi

I had the over/under at 2567 AD. Looks like I won’t be collecting on that bet.

Remembering the people not behind the first protests being all scared and hoping that Mubarak would stay…….

Whatever the outcome, demonstrations like this are a sign of democracy.

Power to the people and all that.

48 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 4:08:29pm

re: #47 Stanghazi

re: #40 SteveMcGazi

Remembering the people not behind the first protests being all scared and hoping that Mubarak would stay…….

Whatever the outcome, demonstrations like this are a sign of democracy.

Power to the people and all that.

Officer Pepperspray called in sick today.

49 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 4:08:48pm

Also.

50 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 4:09:16pm

re: #27 Dancing along the light of day

I vote for anal probes for Jim DeMint and Ralph Reed.
Or worse.
*spits*

NO! That might help them locate more alleged “facts” to pull out when needed.

51 SteveMcGazi  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 4:09:25pm

re: #48 Decatur Deb

Officer Pepperspray called in sick today.

I wonder if you could put mace in one of those firefighting aircraft.

52 Amory Blaine  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 4:11:07pm

re: #29 Decatur Deb

You know they want it.

You can tell by the way they dress!

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53 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 4:12:12pm

re: #51 SteveMcGazi

I wonder if you could put mace in one of those firefighting aircraft.

We’ve had aerial dispersal systems. Might be obsolete.

omegaresearchfoundation.org

note: this is a .pdf

54 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 4:13:23pm

On a much different scale, the Cairo protests remind me of the locals in Benghazi putting the torch to the Ansar-al-Islam compound and running the inmates out of town after the attack on the US consulate.

55 SteveMcGazi  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 4:17:19pm

re: #53 Decatur Deb

We’ve had aerial dispersal systems. Might be obsolete.

omegaresearchfoundation.org

note: this is a .pdf

And I thought I was a weirdo…

56 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 4:17:24pm

re: #38 Stanghazi

Muslim Brothers huh? Are they like the Mario Brothers? Or perhaps the Blues Brothers?

57 subterraneanhomesickalien  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 4:17:37pm

re: #8 Spocomptonite

Ralph Reed’s has always had the vibe of a cynical huckster trying to graft as much money out of his fairly uneducated supporters as possible.

I doubt he really believes in anything except his own current and future financial situation.

58 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 4:17:47pm

re: #54 Shiplord Kirel

On a much different scale, the Cairo protests remind me of the locals in Benghazi putting the torch to the Ansar-al-Islam compound and running the inmates out of town after the attack on the US consulate.

I think one of the key differences is there was a sectarian element to the backlash in Benghazi. The Salfists are an alien form of Islam in the region so many of the locals weren’t that thrilled with them. The Muslim Bros are born a bred in Egypt, they aren’t hated because their aliens, they’re hated because they suck.

59 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 4:18:09pm

re: #56 Eclectic Cyborg

Muslim Brothers huh? Are they like the Mario Brothers? Or perhaps the Blues Brothers?

Is the MB allowed to chew gum?

60 Amory Blaine  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 4:18:46pm

Shall we play a game?

61 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 4:19:35pm

re: #55 SteveMcGazi

And I thought I was a weirdo…

Here’s the patent on one system:

google.com

62 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 4:21:50pm

Pete Souza’s photos are just amazing.

63 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 4:23:16pm

I’ve started reading World War Z and I have to say I am totally loving it so far. The journalistic type writing style really appeals to me. I haven’t seen the movie yet, but I can confidently give the book a thumbs up.

64 Kragar  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 4:25:02pm

re: #63 Eclectic Cyborg

I’ve started reading World War Z and I have to say I am totally loving it so far. The journalistic type writing style really appeals to me. I haven’t seen the movie yet, but I can confidently give the book a thumbs up.

The book was great. A shame they didn’t base the movie on it.

65 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 4:27:34pm

re: #64 Kragar

The book was great. A shame they didn’t base the movie on it.

That’s what I’ve heard and thus why I went for the book first instead of seeing the movie as I originally planned.

66 engineer cat  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 4:29:43pm

i will never feel truly free until i can have my male mandatory vaginal probe

67 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 4:31:51pm

Man Bites Dog story:
Birmingham Alabama screws JP Morgan and other banks.

nhregister.com

68 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 4:35:05pm

Cuteness break:

Picture: One of these are not like the other…

69 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 4:39:08pm
DeMint: She’s forgetting about the thousands of women who want an informed choice, who want the opportunity to get a free ultrasound, which they can get not from Planned Parenthood, but from a lot of these pregnancy centers.

The pregnancy centers are funded by fanatics and will exist whether or not women are forced to go to them, and they don’t offer an informed choice, they actively lie just like DeMint is. The free ultrasound is only an “opportunity” so long as it isn’t forced, so long as it is an optional service. Once it becomes a prerequisite to have an abortion it’s no longer a choice for anybody, even the few women who might otherwise take it.

70 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 4:39:16pm

re: #66 engineer cat

i will never feel truly free until i can have my male mandatory vaginal probe

I won’t feel free until you have one, either.
—Empathetic Liberal

71 engineer cat  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 4:40:19pm

i am not only president of mandatory vaginal probe club for men - i am also a customer!

72 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 4:57:47pm

Since there have been a few articles about Glenn Greenwald’s most excellent personality, his cultists are now unanimously echoing the line that Greenwald’s personality and tactics just don’t matter at all and anybody who brings it up is an Obamabot who’s trying to shoot the messenger.

It’s weird herd behavior. Very reminiscent of how the right wing acts when they all start parroting a talking point in unison.

73 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 5:02:14pm

re: #72 Charles Johnson

Since there have been a few articles about Glenn Greenwald’s most excellent personality, his cultists are now unanimously echoing the line that Greenwald’s personality and tactics just don’t matter at all and anybody who brings it up is an Obamabot who’s trying to shoot the messenger.

It’s weird herd behavior. Very reminiscent of how the right wing acts when they all start parroting a talking point in unison.

They are very, very strange people.

74 The Ghost of a Flea  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 5:03:23pm

re: #69 goddamnedfrank

The pregnancy centers are funded by fanatics and will exist whether or not women are forced to go to them, and they don’t offer an informed choice, they actively lie just like DeMint is. The free ultrasound is only an “opportunity” so long as it isn’t forced, so long as it is an optional service. Once it becomes a prerequisite to have an abortion it’s no longer a choice for anybody, even the few women who might otherwise take it.

Exactly.

Informed choice is Newspeak. It’ the same phrase they use to justify Pregnancy Centers lying and using debunked studies, and it effectively means the opposite of the denotation.

75 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 5:06:15pm

TMC is now showing “A Tree Grows in Brooklyn”…
How did they know I needed that???

76 jaunte  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 5:09:27pm

re: #72 Charles Johnson

Since there have been a few articles about Glenn Greenwald’s most excellent personality, his cultists are now unanimously echoing the line that Greenwald’s personality and tactics just don’t matter at all and anybody who brings it up is an Obamabot who’s trying to shoot the messenger.

It’s weird herd behavior. Very reminiscent of how the right wing acts when they all start parroting a talking point in unison.

They may not have much to talk about; continually repeating “this could be really bad” has got to get old.

77 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 5:10:09pm

New season of Dexter starts tonight.

78 jvic  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 5:11:27pm

If I had graphics skills, I’d use the following on images (not exclusively of cats). I don’t, so:

I Can Haz Vaginal Probe?

79 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 5:14:28pm

re: #77 Charles Johnson

New season of Dexter starts tonight.

Perhaps this year there’ll be a Christmas special.

80 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 5:16:10pm

re: #76 jaunte

It’s weird, because they’re arguing his personality is completely irrelevant to his writing — while at the same time applauding him for not hiding his personality and making it a big part of his writing.

If it’s irrelevant, why do his defenders come across so shrill, like they’re defending a protected member of a tribe?

It’s long been obvious to me that Greenwald’s biases and personality deeply affect what he chooses to write about, and how he writes about it, and I don’t mean that in a good way. Biases are a fact of life for all writers, but rather than write in a way that confronts his own biases and tries to account for other points of view without demonizing them, Greenwald writes like he’s trying to hurt someone, with no concern at all for fairness or honesty.

81 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 5:17:05pm

I guess a lot of people enjoy reading that kind of writing. I really don’t - I’ve never been able to read a Greenwald piece without getting disgusted at some point by his egomaniacal moralizing.

82 Kragar  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 5:18:15pm

re: #77 Charles Johnson

New season of Dexter starts tonight.

Last season as well.

83 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 5:18:30pm

re: #80 Charles Johnson

It’s weird, because they’re arguing his personality is completely irrelevant to his writing — while at the same time applauding him for not hiding his personality and making it a big part of his writing.

If it’s irrelevant, why do his defenders come across so shrill, like they’re defending a protected member of a tribe?

It’s long been obvious to me that Greenwald’s biases and personality deeply affect what he chooses to write about, and how he writes about it, and I don’t mean that in a good way. Biases are a fact of life for all writers, but rather than write in a way that confronts his own biases and tries to account for other points of view with demonizing them, Greenwald writes like he’s trying to hurt someone, with no concern at all for fairness or honesty.

LUAP NOR.

84 jaunte  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 5:19:57pm
85 Kragar  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 5:24:28pm

Isn’t John Stewart in Egypt right now?

86 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 5:24:33pm
87 lawhawk  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 5:25:14pm

re: #1 Gus

In which Jim DeMint and Ralph Reed mansplain the vaginal probing.

They said it. They own it. Make them explain themselves. Again and again.

And let the caterwauling commence when they claim that they were misquoted.

88 bratwurst  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 5:27:34pm

re: #85 Kragar

Isn’t John Stewart in Egypt right now?

No, Jordan.

89 engineer cat  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 5:28:39pm

“to climb the russian mountain”

moar fun w spanish idioms

90 kirkspencer  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 5:29:23pm

re: #63 Eclectic Cyborg

I’ve started reading World War Z and I have to say I am totally loving it so far. The journalistic type writing style really appeals to me. I haven’t seen the movie yet, but I can confidently give the book a thumbs up.

Echoing Kragar, the book and movie have as much in common as, well, Starship Troopers the book and the movie. The movie isn’t that bad for entertainment purposes, but the only things it has in common is that the Brad Pitt character works for the UN and there are zombies. (Fast in the movie vs slow in the book.)

91 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 5:36:05pm

Coming soon: the LGF User’s Guide. (You’ll probably discover some things you didn’t know you could do here.)

92 Targetpractice  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 5:40:13pm

re: #80 Charles Johnson

It’s weird, because they’re arguing his personality is completely irrelevant to his writing — while at the same time applauding him for not hiding his personality and making it a big part of his writing.

If it’s irrelevant, why do his defenders come across so shrill, like they’re defending a protected member of a tribe?

It’s long been obvious to me that Greenwald’s biases and personality deeply affect what he chooses to write about, and how he writes about it, and I don’t mean that in a good way. Biases are a fact of life for all writers, but rather than write in a way that confronts his own biases and tries to account for other points of view without demonizing them, Greenwald writes like he’s trying to hurt someone, with no concern at all for fairness or honesty.

I can only call it confirmation bias at this point. They see what they want in Greenwald’s writing, so are willing to overlook the very real questions as to if he’s pulling a fast one on them.

93 prairiefire  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 5:40:21pm

Baby, it ain’t the kind I want! I wonder if DeMint has a women’s healthcare poster on the ceiling of his office, just in case.

94 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 5:43:49pm

New Inspector Lewis in 15 min—BBL

95 engineer cat  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 5:45:09pm

boca abajo

yes! i noticed when they were translating at the zimmerman trial that “face down” became “mouth down” in spanish

96 Kragar  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 5:45:36pm

Mike Huckabee: I’m no homophobe, but same-sex marriage like polygamy and prostitution

Huck, you’re a homophobe.

97 122 Year Old Obama  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 5:48:31pm

re: #96 Kragar

Mike Huckabee: I’m no homophobe, but same-sex marriage like polygamy and prostitution

Huck, you’re a homophobe.

Gay marriage, polygamy, and prostitution. One of these is not like the others…

98 HoosierHoops  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 5:52:51pm

re: #91 Charles Johnson

Coming soon: the LGF User’s Guide. (You’ll probably discover some things you didn’t know you could do here.)

That is awesome..There are so many features here..I love it..
But..I absolutely hate..ah..mmmm.. Yea..I hate the new spell check..
The old version was perfect for me…Even if I learn how to advance the checker through the body of text ( grrrr ).. I’ll still wish for the old version
and pine away…
Hey! But LGF rocks! I know you put in a lot of time coding Charles so a thank you is in order. :)

99 Stanghazi  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 5:55:07pm
100 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 5:56:13pm

re: #91 Charles Johnson

You always give us nice, bright, shiny new toys!
Thank you!

101 prairiefire  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 5:58:11pm

re: #98 HoosierHoops

Si, amigo. Me no comprende.

102 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:00:10pm

re: #98 HoosierHoops

I’ve actually been thinking about removing the spell check feature entirely, because most browsers have a much faster and easier method these days. I see you’re using Firefox - have you checked out its spell-checking features? It’s pretty capable. A misspelled word has a red line under it, you right-click the word and see a list of alternative spellings.

103 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:03:52pm

Fucking shit. Syrian rebels allegedly beheaded two several people in Syria to a cheering crowd. Also included was a Father Francois Murad. The Vatican has confirmed his death.

104 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:04:04pm

re: #3 jaunte

Demint begins with the biggest lie:
Gosnell case “shows the horrendous conditions inside these clinics.”

Whereas in the real world people on the pro-access to abortion side were shocked because the conditions in Gosnell’s clinic were so abnormally bad.

But one does not expect honesty from Jim DeMint.

105 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:04:08pm

Strike allegedly.

106 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:04:26pm

re: #103 Gus

Fucking shit. Syrian rebels allegedly beheaded two several people in Syria to a cheering crowd. Also included was a Father Francois Murad. The Vatican has confirmed his death.

Yep. Getting very ugly.

107 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:05:07pm

re: #106 Charles Johnson

Yep. Getting very ugly.

And we’re going to support these guys? I need a drink.

108 Stanghazi  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:05:47pm
109 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:05:48pm

re: #103 Gus

Fucking shit. Syrian rebels allegedly beheaded two several people in Syria to a cheering crowd. Also included was a Father Francois Murad. The Vatican has confirmed his death.

Islamists getting their hate on. This will make any aid to any rebels far harder, since many people already look at the Syrian Civil War and think “A Pox on Both Your Houses!”.

110 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:06:32pm

re: #79 Decatur Deb

Perhaps this year there’ll be a Christmas special.

Halloween special.

111 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:07:09pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

Seriously. What the fuck is wrong with these people.

They’re losing their power.

Once upon a time white men had most of the power; economic and political. Then others started to gain their civil rights. Others started to become citizens. Others gained the power to make decisions about their own lives.

People like DeMint and Reed hate this, as most people who lose power do. So they’ll say and do anything to get that power back.

112 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:07:20pm

re: #108 Stanghazi

Obama kind of looks shopped into the photo. Maybe its just me, but it looks off. I don’t suspect the president of being dishonest in this matter, though.

Withdrawn.

113 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:08:31pm

re: #107 Gus

And we’re going to support these guys? I need a drink.

Fanaticism has always been a powerful force in the Middle East. Hopefully, the US government is learning from past mistakes and limiting support in ways that will lead to better conclusions.

Hopefully.

114 Targetpractice  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:08:45pm

re: #109 Dark_Falcon

Islamists getting their hate on. This will make any aid to any rebels far harder, since many people already look at the Syrian Civil War and think “A Pox on Both Your Houses!”.

Can’t see why they shouldn’t. From the sounds of it, there is no “good” guys here, just two groups of equally evil assholes, with the only difference being who has access to fighter jets and tanks. And a lot of the world is tired over choosing the “lesser evil.”

115 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:08:57pm

re: #112 Dark_Falcon

Obama kind of looks shopped into the photo. Maybe its just me, but it looks off. I don’t suspect the president of being dishonest in this matter, though.

Dude.

116 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:11:06pm
117 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:12:02pm

re: #116 Vicious Babushka

Gitmo has to stop existing.

118 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:13:15pm

re: #117 Charles Johnson

Gitmo has to stop existing.

So disgusted with Breitbart shit.

119 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:14:04pm

re: #115 Charles Johnson

Dude.

I’m probably wrong, seeing an angle that isn’t there.

120 compound_Idaho  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:14:17pm

re: #106 Charles Johnson

Yep. Getting very ugly.

I cannot tell if there are any good guys. We should stay/get completely out of it.

121 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:14:41pm

re: #112 Dark_Falcon

Obama kind of looks shopped into the photo.

I don’t think you know what to look for. The lighting angle and shadow on Obama’s face cast by the kid’s head is absolutely perfect.

122 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:16:16pm

re: #116 Vicious Babushka

Looks diabolical.

123 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:16:16pm

re: #121 goddamnedfrank

I don’t think you know what to look for. The lighting angle and shadow on Obama’s face cast by the kid’s head is absolutely perfect.

I’ll take your word for it.

124 HoosierHoops  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:16:19pm

re: #102 Charles Johnson

I’ve actually been thinking about removing the spell check feature entirely, because most browsers have a much faster and easier method these days. I see you’re using Firefox - have you checked out its spell-checking features? It’s pretty capable. A misspelled word has a red line under it, you right-click the word and see a list of alternative spellings.

Thank you..Didn’t know about that feature..
I’ll still miss the old checker..:)
On that note..I’ve been watching a youtube channel called Hak5.
They do security stuff and can hack about everything..You can’t stop watching how everything works in the hacker world. They are the good guys and I guess have 9 seasons of shows..Great security stuff and they have a entertaining show..

125 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:23:59pm

Can we get a button that makes us coffee?
And one that orders pizza?
And one that fires my orbital ion cannon?

126 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:26:21pm

re: #125 Varek Raith

Can we get a button that makes us coffee?
And one that orders pizza?
And one that fires my orbital ion cannon?

Yes
yes
No

127 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:29:30pm

And in the tradition of odd celebrity baby names Jessica Simpson gave birth to her second child with her fiance Eric Johnson, a baby boy named Ace Knute Johnson.

128 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:30:32pm

re: #126 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Yes
yes
No

Not even if it’ll fire the cannon at wherever Edward Snowden is the first time it is fired?

129 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:31:38pm

Youtube Video

Ion cannon plus shitload of liquid tiberium = this.

130 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:35:26pm

re: #127 Dark_Falcon

Knute is a Scandinavian name, with the most famous American to have it being Knute Rockne, the legendary Notre Dame football coach, the subject of a film biography that resulted in Ronald Reagan’s nickname of “The Gipper”.

131 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:36:28pm

Well, the Death Valley/Furnace Creek heat watch was kind of a bust today. Only got to 127, not even up to the forecast 130. Currently 122, with a forecast low of of 100. They’re looking for 130 again tomorrow, though.

132 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:36:43pm
133 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:41:07pm

re: #132 Gus

I am glad he did that and it makes a difference with me. Let’s be sure to favorite this tweet so we can use it when the haters start shouting that Father Murad was “a victim of Islam”.

134 AlexRogan  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:44:21pm

re: #116 Vicious Babushka

re: #117 Charles Johnson

Gitmo has to stop existing.

It’s not just a Gitmo thing, that restraint chair. Many police departments here in the US use that type of chair for unruly prisoners; if you’ve ever seen American Jail (filmed in Vegas) on truTV, it looks very familiar.

Not excusing it at all, just pointing it out.

135 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:45:05pm

re: #133 Dark_Falcon

I am glad he did that and it makes a difference with me. Let’s be sure to favorite this tweet so we can use it when the haters start shouting that Father Murad was “a victim of Islam”.

Retweet! Yeah, was looking and there it was. This shining light of hope.

136 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:45:55pm
137 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:47:33pm

re: #134 AlexRogan

re: #117 Charles Johnson

It’s not just a Gitmo thing, that restraint chair; many police departments use that type of chair for unruly prisoners.

Not excusing it at all, just pointing it out.

True, but that’s for prisoners who have been afforded due process and a fair trial.

138 AlexRogan  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:48:41pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

True, but that’s for prisoners who have been afforded due process and a fair trial.

Well yeah, there’s that little detail…

139 Targetpractice  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:49:40pm

re: #136 Charles Johnson

I look at those protests, then I think back to all the wingnuts who were screaming in panic that Obama hadn’t kept Mubarak in power or imposed a US democracy on Egypt, who were sure the MB would have the country under its iron grip shortly, and how Egypt was about to become another Iran/Iraq/Syria/whichever Islamic theocracy they’re on about today.

140 AlexRogan  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:51:14pm

re: #136 Charles Johnson

That’s several dozen metric fucktons of people right there.

141 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:51:38pm

re: #134 AlexRogan

re: #117 Charles Johnson

It’s not just a Gitmo thing, that restraint chair. Many police departments here in the US use that type of chair for unruly prisoners; if you’ve ever seen American Jail (filmed in Vegas) on truTV, it looks very familiar.

Not excusing it at all, just pointing it out.

Well, Breitbart said the Gitmo detainees were being “pampered” so I showed a picture of their mani/pedi/force-feeding/torture chair.

//What you mean every spa doesn’t have one!!111!!!1

142 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:55:40pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

True, but that’s for prisoners who have been afforded due process and a fair trial.

No, in the Vegas jail its used on prisoners who haven’t even been formally charged yet, but who are being violent towards staff and other prisoners. They depicted staff don’t use the chair on a whim, but of course things may be very different once the cameras turn off.

143 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 6:59:04pm

re: #116 Vicious Babushka

Don’t let Perry and the Texas State Board of Education see that.

144 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 7:03:57pm

re: #141 Vicious Babushka

Well, Breitbart said the Gitmo detainees were being “pampered” so I showed a picture of their mani/pedi/force-feeding/torture chair.

//What you mean every spa doesn’t have one!!111!!!1

Yeah, but that chair is pro-life.

//

145 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 7:10:17pm

Meanwhile…

146 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 7:15:26pm

re: #145 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile…

A Largemouth Bass, fairly common in Wisconsin. I’ve caught a couple of those myself up there.

147 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 7:15:45pm

re: #145 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile…

MAN-FISH LOVE!11

148 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 7:15:46pm
149 Targetpractice  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 7:16:16pm

re: #147 Vicious Babushka

MAN-FISH LOVE!11

See what you did, SCOTUS?!

150 Kragar  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 7:22:56pm

re: #146 Dark_Falcon

A Largemouth Bass, fairly common in Wisconsin. I’ve caught a couple of those myself up there.

Kissed by a large mouthed ass.

151 Lidane  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 7:27:34pm

re: #4 Shiplord Kirel

Freaks and perverts, all of them.

That’s what happens when your party is run by and caters to people who are sexually and emotionally repressed by their hellfire and brimstone religion.

152 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 7:29:16pm
153 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 7:32:12pm

re: #150 Kragar

Actually, Paul Ryan is neither big-mouthed nor an ass by the standards of his profession. By normal standards, all congresspeople are big-mouthed.

154 Lidane  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 7:34:16pm

re: #153 Dark_Falcon

Actually, Paul Ryan is neither big-mouthed nor an ass by the standards of his profession. By normal standards, all congresspeople are big-mouthed.

He’s a zombie eyed granny starver that tried to pass off a cruel and inhuman budget as necessary. Of course he’s an ass.

155 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 7:34:19pm

re: #152 Gus

Also note that Congressman Ryan has removed the hook, so this photo is almost certainly from right before he put the bass back in the water. According to their Wikipedia entry, Largemouth Bass respond well to catch-and-release.

156 Stanghazi  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 7:38:33pm

re: #154 Lidane

He’s a zombie eyed granny starver that tried to pass off a cruel and inhuman budget as necessary. Of course he’s an ass.

Cold as a fish. He met his love today.

157 dragonath  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 7:40:31pm

Anyone remember the game Seaman? I kind of expect Leonard Nimoy to chime in and tell us how illogical that was.

158 engineer cat  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 7:42:13pm

it’s ryan’s misfortune to have contracted the habit of opening his mouth on tv before acquiring the appropriate facts

he should work on it

159 Targetpractice  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 7:42:31pm

re: #157 dragonath

Anyone remember the game Seaman? I kind of expect Leonard Nimoy to chime in and tell us how illogical that was.

Ah, the Dreamcast, that takes me back.

160 Stanghazi  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 7:42:37pm

BTW, One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest is one damn depressing movie.

161 Stanghazi  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 7:43:27pm

Holy shit, holy shit.

162 Stanghazi  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 7:44:10pm

myfoxphoenix.com

163 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 7:44:22pm
164 Targetpractice  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 7:44:31pm

re: #160 Stanghazi

BTW, One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest is one damn depressing movie.

Had to read the book in high school and then watch the movie. Yeah, that’s gotta be one of the most depressing endings I’ve seen in movies.

165 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 7:46:06pm

Image: 1011729_10151526418079624_1010907255_n.jpg

166 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 7:47:51pm

re: #160 Stanghazi

BTW, One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest is one damn depressing movie.

It works out fine for Chief. Perspective, think about it.

167 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 7:47:56pm

re: #163 Gus

25 is very old for a sea otter. So don’t feel too bad, folks, it was Homer’s time to pass on.

168 Sionainn  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 7:48:10pm

re: #27 Dancing along the light of day

I vote for anal probes for Jim DeMint and Ralph Reed.
Or worse.
*spits*

I think they’d like it.

169 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 7:49:22pm

re: #166 Killgore Trout

It works out fine for Chief. Perspective, think about it.

Youtube Video
Epic theme music. Play that at my funeral, therimin rod and all.

170 122 Year Old Obama  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 7:49:48pm

re: #157 dragonath

Anyone remember the game Seaman? I kind of expect Leonard Nimoy to chime in and tell us how illogical that was.

These guys sure do.

Youtube Video

171 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 7:51:58pm

Vintage Saturday: Femme Fatale

Leningrad, 1942, with a DP28 light machine gun. Women served the Red Army in substantial numbers as pilots, snipers, and machine gunners. In light of the controversy over US women moving into combat roles, this seems like it might be a relevant part of the conversation.

Post is here. Unlike too many sites today, the comments on this post actually deal with WWII, demonstrate some thought, and provide useful information.

172 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 7:54:03pm

re: #167 Dark_Falcon

25 is very old for a sea otter. So don’t feel too bad, folks, it was Homer’s time to pass on.

Yep, could have been lost during the spill. Thanks to the ol’ humans she was saved.

173 Targetpractice  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 7:56:53pm

re: #170 122 Year Old Obama

These guys sure do.

[Embedded content]

Heh, the Freelance Astronauts, those were hilarious when they were actively streaming. Sadly, they haven’t seemed to be active much since last year, on account of the regulars either having IRL problems or just moving on.

174 freetoken  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 7:57:51pm

re: #152 Gus

Is that one of their wedding photos?

175 Ming  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 7:58:25pm

re: #57 subterraneanhomesickalien

Ralph Reed’s has always had the vibe of a cynical huckster trying to graft as much money out of his fairly uneducated supporters as possible.

I doubt he really believes in anything except his own current and future financial situation.

This is admittedly very subjective on my part. From seeing Ralph Reed on TV, i’ve always thought of him as wanting theocrats to have power over other people, especially nonbelievers. I get the impression that Ralph Reed is highly offended at the thought of people living in freedom from the theocrats. Very highly offended. Only my impression, but it’s a strong one.

176 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 8:08:14pm

democracy in action
Youtube Video

177 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 8:11:02pm
178 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 8:11:15pm
179 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 8:12:23pm

Image: 120531-WHITEWATER_BALDY_JS_0157.jpg

180 efuseakay  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 8:17:36pm

re: #161 Stanghazi

Holy shit, holy shit.

Hmmmph… local news said they were missing. Blah.

181 Amory Blaine  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 8:20:04pm

re: #176 Killgore Trout

Yep and then the house denied the majority it’s vote. ;)

182 efuseakay  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 8:20:41pm

re: #145 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile…

He caught it in under 3 hours!

183 Stanghazi  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 8:21:32pm

re: #180 efuseakay

Hmmmph… local news said they were missing. Blah.

OK myfoxphoenix just changed from 19-18…….

myfoxphoenix.com

184 dragonath  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 8:26:09pm

You know, I think the media at large underestimated the presence of secularists in Egypt. It seems like there’s an overreach by the islamists at least once a generation. Morsi’s first prerogative was to pacify the country, not act as some two-bit Napoleon.

It should be interesting to see how well organized the liberals turn out next election.

185 Interesting Times  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 8:27:00pm

re: #184 dragonath

186 Belafon  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 8:28:08pm

re: #10 Dr Lizardo

Of course they do. It was written in the definitive Republican Bible, Atlas Shrugged, by a woman.

187 subterraneanhomesickalien  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 8:29:25pm

re: #175 Ming

Him being so tight with people like Jack Abramoff and Michael Scanlon, and the rest of that cesspool on K-street always pointed me in the direction of grifter.

Who knows?

I suppose one can be a fanatic whilst not having a problem with raking in a lot of ill gotten money.

188 Interesting Times  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 8:30:21pm

re: #183 Stanghazi

OK myfoxphoenix just changed from 19-18…….

myfoxphoenix.com

189 Kragar  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 8:34:28pm

re: #185 Interesting Times

Obviously this was just a plot by the Muslim Brotherhood.
/Crazy Pam

190 Ming  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 8:37:02pm

re: #187 subterraneanhomesickalien

Him being so tight with people like Jack Abramoff and Michael Scanlon, and the rest of that cesspool on K-street always pointed me in the direction of grifter.

Who knows?

I suppose one can be a fanatic whilst not having a problem with raking in a lot of ill gotten money.

You may be right. I sometimes forget how much MONEY is involved in the world of politicians, commentators, and advocates for one cause or another.

191 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 8:39:15pm

Here we go…


This guy is with Gawker.

192 subterraneanhomesickalien  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 8:41:21pm

re: #191 Gus

Fucking ouch.

193 freetoken  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 8:48:11pm

I see that RedState wants to school us on science.

Bwahahaha…

194 Kragar  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 8:50:00pm

re: #193 freetoken

I see that RedState wants to school us on science.

Bwahahaha…

Which version of the Bible are they using today?
///

195 dragonath  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 8:52:18pm

I don’t know who runs Gawker, but that Rob Ford “Crackstarter” was a total amateur hour. The extent of sponsored articles over there is a joke too.

196 freetoken  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 8:52:27pm

re: #194 Kragar

Which version of the Bible are they using today?
///

The one from the American Petroleum Institute.

197 Interesting Times  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 8:53:26pm

re: #196 freetoken

The one from the American Petroleum Institute.

The latest TV ad from that odious org shows their spokesblonde making a “shhh” gesture at the end. How very fitting.

198 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 8:53:28pm

re: #195 dragonath

I don’t know who runs Gawker, but that Rob Ford “Crackstarter” was a total amateur hour. The extent of sponsored articles over there is a joke too.

Gawker sucks. It’s like one notch above TMZ. It’s run by that ASSHOLE John Cook.

199 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 8:54:26pm

Matt Taibbi is another asshole.

200 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 8:55:37pm

Michael Hastings was another douche nozzle. May he rest in peace.

201 Interesting Times  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 8:55:41pm

Someone read my mind earlier LGF comment:

202 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 8:56:12pm

Jeremy Scahill. Asshole.

203 subterraneanhomesickalien  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 8:56:33pm

re: #198 Gus

Yeah.

If you want snarky, progressive takes on current events and politics without the unpleasantness of the Gawker writing staff, then Wonkette will do.

They have have better writers and bloggers anyway.

204 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 8:56:51pm

Conor Friedersdorf. Vomit.

205 freetoken  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 8:56:58pm

re: #201 Interesting Times

Je$u$-land has no need for crowds.

206 subterraneanhomesickalien  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 8:57:52pm

re: #199 Gus

He’s also one of the better political writers on the web today.

Yeah he deals in anger, but the issues he covers demand it.

207 freetoken  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 8:59:21pm

I see that VDARE has finally come to the defense of Paula Deen.

Maybe she can give them some lessons on deep fried racism, with a brown butter sauce.

208 Interesting Times  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 9:00:08pm

Oh look, we haz a proselytizing evangelical troll!

209 stabby  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 9:02:21pm

re: #191 Gus

I followed the link, it doesn’t say that he paid a pornographer, he paid an 18 year old boy to give him a story about having modeled… then he told the boy that the NYTimes wouldn’t let him pay for a story and took the money back through the boy’s family… it’s very odd.

210 Interesting Times  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 9:03:34pm
211 Kragar  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 9:04:03pm

re: #208 Interesting Times

Oh look, we haz a proselytizing evangelical troll!

Responded to.

212 snufy  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 9:09:22pm

What makes anyone think that PPH is a private organization when they receive federal money? They are in the abortion business. They murder people. Even your hero Jesse Jackson says, “If it’s growing, it’s alive.”
“What-so-ever you do to the least of them, You do to me, and their angel witness to God Almighty.” : Jesus Christ

213 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 9:10:12pm

re: #206 subterraneanhomesickalien

He’s also one of the better political writers on the web today.

Yeah he deals in anger, but the issues he covers demand it.

I’m an “occasional grouch.” :D

214 freetoken  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 9:10:17pm

re: #212 snufy

Wow, you’re on roll.

One more makes a hat-trick.

215 prairiefire  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 9:10:30pm

re: #169 Killgore Trout

Epic theme music. Play that at my funeral, therimin rod and all.

That’s the one that sounds like a Mr. Science experiment?

216 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 9:11:07pm

re: #212 snufy

Uh uh. Not here. Bye now.

217 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 9:12:20pm

There’s something seriously wrong with these people.

218 Kragar  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 9:13:02pm

re: #212 snufy

What makes anyone think that PPH is a private organization when they receive federal money? They are in the abortion business. They murder people. Even your hero Jesse Jackson says, “If it’s growing, it’s alive.”
“What-so-ever you do to the least of them, You do to me, and their angel witness to God Almighty.” : Jesus Christ

Oil, Agricultural, Energy and hundreds of other companies receive Federal money. Does this make them not private organizations? If women had more access to birth control, wouldn’t that mean they would need fewer abortions?

219 jaunte  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 9:13:11pm

re: #212 snufy

“What-so-ever you do to the least of them, You do to me, and their angel witness to God Almighty.” : Jesus Christ

So all that anxiety and distress that GOP pols are causing women for their own selfish career reasons is going to come at a price? Good to imagine.

220 freetoken  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 9:13:13pm

re: #216 Charles Johnson

Can’t we play with him for a while? We get so few these days, he’s almost a novelty.

221 Interesting Times  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 9:14:25pm

re: #212 snufy

“What-so-ever you do to the least of them, You do to me, and their angel witness to God Almighty.” : Jesus Christ

It’s hilarious how you talibangelicals never apply that logic to, oh, innocent people on death row, women whose lives are jeopardized because of a pregnancy, poor children once they’re born, people without health insurance, the unemployed… #aynRandJesus

222 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 9:15:41pm

Sorry, I just can’t even.

223 Interesting Times  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 9:17:09pm

re: #220 freetoken

Can’t we play with him for a while? We get so few these days, he’s almost a novelty.

He seemed more of a dump-and-runner than “debater.” He bailed from this page before you and Kragar responded.

224 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 9:17:12pm
225 danhenry1  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 9:17:50pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

At this point I am not sure if the military is in support of the government, the protesters (which group)? I know the police are pro government. It seems that many of the protesters are against strict interpretations of Islam. More moderate? I don’t know what is going on over there.

226 Kragar  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 9:18:48pm

re: #223 Interesting Times

He seemed more of a dump-and-runner than “debater.” He bailed from this page before you and Kragar responded.

I wanted to debate him on the merits of heaven versus Valhalla, but alas, it is not to be.

227 Targetpractice  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 9:20:32pm

God, how sick I have gotten of the “fungible dollars” BS.

228 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 9:22:57pm

#Opportunist

229 dragonath  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 9:24:50pm

re: #227 Targetpractice

God, how sick I have gotten of the “fungible dollars” BS.

Every time in history there was a wide separation of wealth between classes, the poor got soaked. Every. Single. Time.

230 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 9:29:15pm
231 dragonath  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 9:34:45pm

re: #212 snufy

So, according to you, America should be governed via religious mandates by people who consider themselves infallible.

Yeah, how can that possibly go wrong?

232 gwangung  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 9:34:51pm

re: #225 danhenry1

At this point I am not sure if the military is in support of the government, the protesters (which group)? I know the police are pro government. It seems that many of the protesters are against strict interpretations of Islam. More moderate? I don’t know what is going on over there.

A state shared by most Americans about the Middle East. I wish more people were as self aware.

233 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 9:42:22pm

Whoa.

234 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 9:43:53pm

Fuck you Glennbots!

235 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 9:58:46pm
236 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 10:00:30pm

Yep, that’s right folks. Syrian rebels beheaded 3 Catholics with a knife for being Catholic and the MSM ignored it.

237 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 10:01:50pm

Slaughtered like pigs. But hey, they’re all spooked about reporting it. Boo!

238 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 10:02:55pm

I watched it too. They butchered Francois Murad and two other Catholics.

239 freetoken  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 10:04:34pm

re: #236 Gus

But, we’re supposed be cheering for rebels, aren’t we?

240 freetoken  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 10:06:29pm

A few days ago 20 some people were killed in western China, including 11 killed by police firing on protestors. Though not in their land, Uyghers were some of the victims.

That didn’t make much of a splash in American media either.

241 blueraven  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 10:07:27pm

re: #238 Gus

I watched it too. They butchered Francois Murad and two other Catholics.

Well, tonight Fox had another SPECIAL REPORT on Benghazi!!
CNN had several episodes of Crimes of the Century and of course MSNBC has Lockup!
No news out of Egypt either. They all suck.

242 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 10:07:42pm

re: #239 freetoken

But, we’re supposed be cheering for rebels, aren’t we?

Not anymore. Fuck Assad and fuck the rebels.

243 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 10:08:13pm

Takfir wal-Hijra “an offshoot of Muslim Brotherhood.”

244 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 10:11:32pm
245 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 10:12:08pm

Charlie Wilson was a terrorist enabler.

246 AlexRogan  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 10:13:20pm

re: #239 freetoken

But, we’re supposed be cheering for rebels, aren’t we?

As with Egypt, both sides suck, for slightly different reasons; to me, the Syrian rebels (just as with the Egyptian MB last year) have the will, the manpower and the firepower to go against Assad’s forces, but they don’t necessarily want to replace him with anything resembling Western-style democracy. Those who do don’t have the guns or the popular support, IMO.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss (so to speak).

247 Targetpractice  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 10:20:32pm

re: #246 AlexRogan

As with Egypt, both sides suck, for slightly different reasons; to me, the Syrian rebels (just as with the Egyptian MB last year) have the will, the manpower and the firepower to go against Assad’s forces, but they don’t necessarily want to replace him with anything resembling Western-style democracy. Those who do don’t have the guns or the popular support, IMO.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss (so to speak).

Quote comes from Lord of War and talks about Africa, but could really apply here as well:

“Every faction in Africa calls themselves by these noble names - Liberation this, Patriotic that, Democratic Republic of something-or-other… I guess they can’t own up to what they usually are: the Federation of Worse Oppressors Than the Last Bunch of Oppressors. Often, the most barbaric atrocities occur when both combatants proclaim themselves Freedom Fighters.”

248 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 10:20:55pm
249 AlexRogan  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 10:27:19pm

re: #247 Targetpractice

Quote comes from Lord of War and talks about Africa, but could really apply here as well:

“Every faction in Africa calls themselves by these noble names - Liberation this, Patriotic that, Democratic Republic of something-or-other… I guess they can’t own up to what they usually are: the Federation of Worse Oppressors Than the Last Bunch of Oppressors. Often, the most barbaric atrocities occur when both combatants proclaim themselves Freedom Fighters.”

George Carlin had it spot-on: “If crimefrighters fight crime and firefighters fight fire, what do freedom fighters fight?”

250 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 10:28:02pm

I watched it. I can link to it here but I won’t.

251 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 10:28:39pm

re: #249 AlexRogan

George Carlin had it spot-on: “If crimefrighters fight crime and firefighters fight fire, what do freedom fighters fight?”

Carlin was kind of like a libertarian dummy like Frank Zappa.

252 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 10:28:48pm

True story.

253 AlexRogan  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 10:30:31pm

re: #251 Gus

Carlin was kind of like a libertarian dummy like Frank Zappa.

Doesn’t mean that either of them couldn’t have made a valid observation or two over their lifetimes, but I sure wouldn’t have wanted them in charge.

254 freetoken  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 10:33:05pm

May be of use to someone:

DNA: life after death: Collecting DNA samples at death

255 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 10:34:57pm

re: #253 AlexRogan

Doesn’t mean that either of them couldn’t have made a valid observation or two over their lifetimes, but I sure wouldn’t have wanted them in charge.

Back, and to the left. Back, and to the left.

Bill Hicks was another one.

256 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 10:36:19pm
257 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 10:36:50pm

I realize that sucks but it’s true.

258 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 10:37:22pm

So was George Carlin. Teabagger.

259 piratedan  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 10:38:33pm

re: #224 Gus

follow the money…..

260 Gus  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 10:39:25pm
261 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 10:40:13pm

re: #210 Interesting Times

He denies you birth control then forces a doctor to put wand into your vagina for no medical reason. Is he a) a Pervert? b) a GOP Governor?

You left out c) all of the above

262 AlexRogan  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 10:46:47pm

re: #256 Gus

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re: #257 Gus

I realize that sucks but it’s true.

re: #258 Gus

So was George Carlin. Teabagger.

Frankly, I don’t give a shit about what their politics were, because, at this point, Carlin, Zappa, and Hicks are all dead and have been for some time; all we have is their bodies of work and known comments, but they are no longer here to defend or repudiate their words.

I’m sorry if me quoting what I thought was a germane bit from one of Carlin’s routines put you in one of your “moods”, but you can have that “mood” all by yourself for the remains of the night, because I’m not up for it.

Have a good night.

263 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 10:46:50pm

re: #253 AlexRogan

Doesn’t mean that either of them couldn’t have made a valid observation or two over their lifetimes, but I sure wouldn’t have wanted them in charge.

They were artists and entertainers, not politicians. I would not want John Stewart in charge of anything, but I would not want to do without his commentary.

264 freetoken  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 10:48:16pm

MP3 Audio

265 dragonath  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 10:49:26pm

re: #256 Gus

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Well, perhaps if teabaggers had brains…

but then they wouldn’t be teabaggers anymore.

266 dragonath  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 11:01:41pm

Zappa was way before my time, but I remember watching an uncomfortable Dick Cavett interview where Zappa expounded on his views of the Anti-Defamation League, which in his words, were a “ethnic lobbying organization”.

I don’t know if he’d really fit in in anywhere. He was definitely more politically ambitious than Carlin, who was pretty much fuck-all with politics.

267 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 11:06:01pm

re: #266 dragonath

Zappa was way before my time, but I remember watching an uncomfortable Dick Cavett interview where Zappa expounded on his views of the Anti-Defamation League, which in his words, were a “ethnic lobbying organization”.

I don’t know if he’d really fit in in anywhere. He was definitely more politically ambitious than Carlin, who was pretty much fuck-all with politics.

The ADL were giving him hassles about his song “Jewish Princess”. This was when PC was moving out of official speech and begining to raise its head in condemning artists and entertainers.

268 Amory Blaine  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 11:11:39pm

Parasites have their tentacles in everything.

Paid via Card, Workers Feel Sting of Fees

A growing number of American workers are confronting a frustrating predicament on payday: to get their wages, they must first pay a fee.

For these largely hourly workers, paper paychecks and even direct deposit have been replaced by prepaid cards issued by their employers. Employees can use these cards, which work like debit cards, at an A.T.M. to withdraw their pay.

But in the overwhelming majority of cases, using the card involves a fee. And those fees can quickly add up: one provider, for example, charges $1.75 to make a withdrawal from most A.T.M.’s, $2.95 for a paper statement and $6 to replace a card. Some users even have to pay $7 inactivity fees for not using their cards.

269 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 11:13:29pm

re: #268 Amory Blaine

Parasites have their tentacles in everything.

Paid via Card, Workers Feel Sting of Fees

Then just treat it like a cash pay envelope: cash it all at once and stash it.

Or is that wath the “inactivity fee” is supposed to prevent?

The system still sucks and is just another way that America show how much it respects and honors hard work…the hard work put in by upper management to maximize profits.

270 Kragar  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 11:14:07pm

re: #268 Amory Blaine

Parasites have their tentacles in everything.

Paid via Card, Workers Feel Sting of Fees

Company store says what?

271 freetoken  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 11:17:49pm

re: #268 Amory Blaine

Why do you hate Capitalism?

272 Targetpractice  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 11:18:32pm

re: #268 Amory Blaine

Parasites have their tentacles in everything.

Paid via Card, Workers Feel Sting of Fees

This is, of course, the point where some smug prick leans in and goes “If you don’t like it, work somewhere else!” Except the reality is that if jobs were so numerous that one could just up and quit today and start a new job tomorrow, companies wouldn’t pull this shit for fear of losing their workers. But when jobs are about as numerous in some places as hens teeth, companies know they can do this shit and get away with it because if they don’t, somebody else will.

273 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 11:21:01pm

Maybe Jim DeMint is confusing vaginal ultrasound probes with those devices women use in pr0n videos …

Just asking a question.

/

274 freetoken  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 11:25:41pm

Big Mama Thorton, the original hit:

MP3 Audio

275 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 11:27:31pm

re: #272 Targetpractice

This is, of course, the point where some smug prick leans in and goes “If you don’t like it, work somewhere else!” Except the reality is that if jobs were so numerous that one could just up and quit today and start a new job tomorrow, companies wouldn’t pull this shit for fear of losing their workers. But when jobs are about as numerous in some places as hens teeth, companies know they can do this shit and get away with it because if they don’t, somebody else will.

That is what the Free Market is all about: take it or leave - leave it and starve.

276 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 11:31:50pm

re: #268 Amory Blaine

What is the benefit of these cards to the employers? Are the banks charging lower fees to the employers than for direct deposits? In other words, what’s the banks’ sales pitch to the employers?

277 freetoken  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 11:33:11pm

re: #275 Sol Berdinowitz

MP3 Audio

278 freetoken  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 11:33:47pm

re: #276 wheat-dogghazi

It’s in the article.

279 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 11:40:15pm

re: #278 freetoken

Ah. China is still blocking the NY Times website, so I can’t easily view it.

280 Targetpractice  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 11:40:27pm

re: #276 wheat-dogghazi

What is the benefit of these cards to the employers? Are the banks charging lower fees to the employers than for direct deposits? In other words, what’s the banks’ sales pitch to the employers?

From the article, it boils down to the usual: Employers and banks working together to fuck workers over. Employer not only gets a discount on the cost of issuing his employees their pay, some banks offer incentives to the employer to adopt the cards. And banks are exploiting loopholes in the law, as they always do, that allow them to crank up fees on these cards because their customers have balked at higher bank and credit card fees. And to top it off, they’re selling it as a “cheaper” alternative to check-cashing businesses.

281 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 11:42:57pm

re: #280 Targetpractice

Ok, just what I expected. Nice way to screw the minimum-wage earners who live paycheck-to-paycheck, and probably don’t have a checking account.

282 Targetpractice  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 11:45:40pm

re: #281 wheat-dogghazi

Ok, just what I expected. Nice way to screw the minimum-wage earners who live paycheck-to-paycheck, and probably don’t have a checking account.

In the grand American tradition, the banks saw the way check-cashers are fucking over the poor and declared “That money could be buying me another gold-plated yacht!!”

283 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 11:52:08pm

re: #282 Targetpractice

In the grand American tradition, the banks saw the way check-cashers are fucking over the poor and declared “That money could be buying me another gold-plated yacht!!”

Check-cashing services and payday loans keep the working poor poor, and make the business owners rich. They succeed because the banks don’t give a shit about low-wage customers.

In the old days, banks were there to help their customers save for the future — you know, as a public service. Credit unions (to some extent) live up to that ideal, but even they have started adding fees and curtailing services to customers with small amounts of money in their accounts. When I was a kid, I had a passbook savings account that had maybe $25 in it on average. I doubt any bank or credit union would even agree to keep that kind of account alive any more.

284 Lidane  Sun, Jun 30, 2013 11:54:26pm

re: #207 freetoken

I see that VDARE has finally come to the defense of Paula Deen.

Maybe she can give them some lessons on deep fried racism, with a brown butter sauce.

GAH. I swear people on my FB who normally avoid politics are all ZOMG LEAVE PAULA DEEN ALOOOONE right now, wondering why everyone is up in arms about something she said decades ago.

Er, no. The problem isn’t what she said decades ago. She’s an older white woman from the Deep South. If she wasn’t racist I’d be amazed. The problem is the way that her shit heel brother ran her companies and her restaurants and she didn’t do anything to stop it.

285 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:06:06am

re: #284 Lidane

GAH. I swear people on my FB who normally avoid politics are all ZOMG LEAVE PAULA DEEN ALOOOONE right now, wondering why everyone is up in arms about something she said decades ago.

Er, no. The problem isn’t what she said decades ago. She’s an older white woman from the Deep South. If she wasn’t racist I’d be amazed. The problem is the way that her shit heel brother ran her companies and her restaurants and she didn’t do anything to stop it.

The excuses for that remind me of the Luap Nor supporters who give Crazy Uncle Liberty a pass for all the racist shit that was published with his signature at the end by saying “Well, he never read it!” You know that’s not much of an excuse, right? I don’t know about most folks, but I was raised on the idea that you don’t put your name on anything you don’t agree with. If Deen didn’t agree with the way her brother was running things, then either he needed to go or she needed to take her name down. Doing neither and then claiming ignorance is a cop-out.

286 freetoken  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:13:24am

Prokofiev plays Mussorgsky:

MP3 Audio

287 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:25:15am

re: #283 wheat-dogghazi

Check-cashing services and payday loans keep the working poor poor, and make the business owners rich. They succeed because the banks don’t give a shit about low-wage customers.

In the old days, banks were there to help their customers save for the future —

In the old days, society was about helping the poor to escape poverty. Now it is about punishing them for being poor in the first place.

288 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:30:44am

re: #285 Targetpractice

I don’t know about most folks, but I was raised on the idea that you don’t put your name on anything you don’t agree with. If Deen didn’t agree with the way her brother was running things, then either he needed to go or she needed to take her name down. Doing neither and then claiming ignorance is a cop-out.

Seriously. And the same people who pull that excuse out are generally the same ones posting every goddamn meme about drug testing weflare recipients because personal responsbility, y’all. Blah.

What kills me is that all her defenders are focused on what she supposedly said and they’re getting mad about all the sponsors and companies dropping her thinking it’s because of her “dream wedding” statements. And I keep seeing the same tired refrain of “Well if she can’t use the Ni-CLANG word, then rappers can’t either!” *headdesk*

It’s not about what she said. It’s because the curtain was pulled back and people were finding out how her restaurants and companies were being run and they didn’t want to be associated with that. God, people are idiots.

289 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:51:08am

re: #288 Lidane

Seriously. And the same people who pull that excuse out are generally the same ones posting every goddamn meme about drug testing weflare recipients because personal responsbility, y’all. Blah.

What kills me is that all her defenders are focused on what she supposedly said and they’re getting mad about all the sponsors and companies dropping her thinking it’s because of her “dream wedding” statements. And I keep seeing the same tired refrain of “Well if she can’t use the Ni-CLANG word, then rappers can’t either!” *headdesk*

It’s not about what she said. It’s because the curtain was pulled back and people were finding out how her restaurants and companies were being run and they didn’t want to be associated with that. God, people are idiots.

It’s because she and her family are playing up themselves as the victims here, going on and on about how people are being so mean to her because she’s an old white racist, even though they swear she’s not really like that and how she’s changed over the years. Which isn’t surprising, because when you’re trying to fight charges of racism and sexual harassment, including offering to pay an employee who worked overtime in alcohol and then firing him when he complained, you don’t want people dwelling on the facts of the case. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if somebody on the defense team leaked that deposition in the hopes that it would blow up like this and overshadow the rest of the trial.

290 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:26:45am

re: #288 Lidane

And I keep seeing the same tired refrain of “Well if she can’t use the Ni-CLANG word, then rappers can’t either!” *headdesk*

It’s not the word, it’s the context. It’s not the flag, it’s the context. It is not the gesture or action, it’s the context.

But that involves more nuance than our modern social and political discourse has room for.

291 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:29:06am

A bit OT, but this is sad:

Republicans Are Rushing to Remind You That Hillary Clinton Is Old

Because as we know, men age a lot more gracefully than women. (Except for Barbara Bush)

292 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:29:57am

re: #291 Sol Berdinowitz

As if McCain and Reagan were spring chickens …

293 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:30:40am

re: #292 wheat-dogghazi

As if McCain and Reagan were spring chickens …

Elder Statesmen

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294 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:04:16am

This might be the day in Death Valley. It is currently 114 degrees (1:55AM). This had declined to 103 several hours ago, but some partial cloud cover moved in, blocking some of the thermal energy from radiating back into space. If this persists until after daybreak and then clears, the trapped energy will be added to what the sun starts pouring in. The forecast high of 130 could be exceeded, possibly by the 4 degrees needed for a new world record.

295 Tigger2  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:09:07am

re: #112 Dark_Falcon

Obama kind of looks shopped into the photo. Maybe its just me, but it looks off. I don’t suspect the president of being dishonest in this matter, though.

Withdrawn.

Do you work for Issa as a scandal spotter./

296 Tigger2  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:19:06am

re: #212 snufy

What makes anyone think that PPH is a private organization when they receive federal money? They are in the abortion business. They murder people. Even your hero Jesse Jackson says, “If it’s growing, it’s alive.”
“What-so-ever you do to the least of them, You do to me, and their angel witness to God Almighty.” : Jesus Christ

If you’re new I don’t think you’re going to do to well here.

297 Tigger2  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:20:19am

re: #216 Charles Johnson

Uh uh. Not here. Bye now.

I should have read down a few more comments. lol

298 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:22:43am

re: #293 Sol Berdinowitz

Elder Statesmen

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Old farts, and in one case, deceased.

299 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:46:50am

With my wiki-fu, I found these tidbits in re: female national leaders:

Golda Meir, PM of Israel, 1969-74; elected to office at age 71. Died 1978.
Indira Gandhi, PM of India, 1980-1984; elected to office at age 63, assassinated while in office, 1984.

Hillary Clinton will be 69 in 2016, falling midway between Meir and Gandhi.

Needless to say, Queen Elizabeth II is still going strong at age 87, having served as monarch for 61 years.

Finally, women tend to live longer than men, so a 69-year-old President H. Clinton concerns me a lot less than a 71-year-old President J. McCain.

300 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:12:55am

Anyone still up, or anyone just getting up?

In all his self-glorification, at the “Socialism” convention, Greenwald starts at about 11:00 (from his Skype prison, as he half-assed jokes): youtube.com

Summary: All journalists are full of shit except me.

301 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:15:12am

re: #300 Justanotherhuman

It’s about 6 pm here, and thanks for the summary. I’ll skip the details.

302 HAL2010  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:36:21am

Continuing from last night.


303 HAL2010  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:38:12am

It’s 12.37 over here in Stockholm.
Lovely day, looking out over the water.

304 HAL2010  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:40:29am


Denial!

305 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:44:35am

re: #304 HAL2010

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Denial!

Looks like a whole river of it in Egypt.

306 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:47:34am

re: #301 wheat-dogghazi

You’re not missing a thing—I quit after about 7 droning minutes.

307 HAL2010  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:48:07am

re: #305 Shiplord Kirel

To say the least. Just hope that Egypt can transition peacefully. Like last time, how the army acts will be crucial.

How’s things over at yours?

308 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:50:13am

re: #229 dragonath

Every time in history there was a wide separation of wealth between classes, the poor got soaked. Every. Single. Time.

Shortly followed by this.

Youtube Video

309 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:51:15am

re: #307 HAL2010

To say the least. Just hope that Egypt can transition peacefully. Like last time, how the army acts will be crucial.

That is asking a lot from a fledgling deomcracy in a part of the world that is known for being socially and politically somewhat backward…

There are too many people interested in creating chaos. The MB has its martyrs, which is a recipe for clusterf*ck in that part of the world, too.

310 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:54:35am

re: #253 AlexRogan

Doesn’t mean that either of them couldn’t have made a valid observation or two over their lifetimes, but I sure wouldn’t have wanted them in charge.

My favorite from Carlin.

Now, there’s one thing you might have noticed I don’t complain about: politicians. Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says they suck. Well, where do people think these politicians come from? They don’t fall out of the sky. They don’t pass through a membrane from another reality. They come from American parents and American families, American homes, American schools, American churches, American businesses and American universities, and they are elected by American citizens. This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It’s what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you’re going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain’t going to do any good; you’re just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it’s not the politicians who suck. Maybe something else sucks around here… like, the public. Yeah, the public sucks. There’s a nice campaign slogan for somebody: “The Public Sucks. Fuck Hope.”

As my favorite writer says, “Comedy is the least controllable form of language and therefore the most dangerous to those with power.”

311 HAL2010  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:55:42am

re: #309 Sol Berdinowitz

That is asking a lot from a fledgling deomcracy in a part of the world that is known for being socially and politically somewhat backward…

There are too many people interested in creating chaos. The MB has its martyrs, which is a recipe for clusterf*ck in that part of the world, too.

Well yeah. The US and the EU really ought to focus on stabilising civic society in Egypt, and tell the Egyptian army to stay he hell out if they want to get their money every year.

312 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:57:40am

re: #269 Sol Berdinowitz

Then just treat it like a cash pay envelope: cash it all at once and stash it.

Or is that wath the “inactivity fee” is supposed to prevent?

The system still sucks and is just another way that America show how much it respects and honors hard work…the hard work put in by upper management to maximize profits.

Youtube Video

313 HAL2010  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:58:51am
314 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 4:01:28am

re: #287 Sol Berdinowitz

In the old days, society was about helping the poor to escape poverty. Now it is about punishing them for being poor in the first place.

Well they are sinners after all. Sinners must be punished.

315 andres  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 4:21:00am

OT: Anyone has played the Simpson’s Tapped Out mobile game? One of the last updates included a quest line where they slam the NRA stances pretty hard. Here’s the link to the start of the quest insanity.

316 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 4:22:33am

Good Monday Morning, Lizardia! Teh FAKE QUOTES are out and about.

317 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 4:24:27am

re: #315 andres

OT: Anyone has played the Simpson’s Tapped Out mobile game? One of the last updates included a quest line where they slam the NRA stances pretty hard. Here’s the link to the start of the quest insanity.

I recall a scene in the Simpsons Movie from 2006 that has the NSA listening to every phone call ever made…

318 HAL2010  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 4:25:34am

re: #316 Vicious Babushka

Seen the picture with Jesus in the middle with all the founding fathers worshipping him?
Someone added what they had to say about the separation of church and state. I very much enjoyed that.

319 HAL2010  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 4:26:39am

re: #317 Sol Berdinowitz

EPA, EEEEPA!
I was elected to lead, not to read!

320 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 4:27:02am
321 HAL2010  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 4:28:37am
322 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 4:29:29am

re: #226 Kragar

I wanted to debate him on the merits of heaven versus Valhalla, but alas, it is not to be.

When someone comes with the attitude that troll had, they aren’t interested in debate, not even of the “I’m just asking questions” variety. What ‘snuffy’ wanted to do was to proclaim God’s Truth and thump his Bible in front of the heathen. When that sort of behavior is evident, there’s no point in debate; Just shove a martyr cookie down the trolls throat and fling it out the door.

323 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 4:29:37am

re: #303 HAL2010

It’s 12.37 over here in Stockholm.
Lovely day, looking out over the water.

I’ve been there, but years ago. I know what you mean, though.

324 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 4:31:15am

Meanwhile idiots are still retweeting TEH DERP from this uber-Idiot:

325 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 4:31:15am

re: #320 NJDhockeyfan

That’s a rotten thing to do and I hope that the helo dropped tear gass on them for that.

326 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 4:32:33am

I’m wondering if MikeAndy is really a LIBRUL TROLL tweeting teh MOAST MOAR SILLY LIES just to see how many retweets from tcot morans.

But MikeAndy has blocked me so I can’t ask.

327 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 4:34:56am

re: #316 Vicious Babushka

Fischer gave out some fake Jefferson quote the other day. I sent a reply saying it probably came from the time of the CSA. Predictably, I was ignored.

328 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 4:36:20am

re: #327 wheat-dogghazi

Fischer gave out some fake Jefferson quote the other day. I sent a reply saying it probably came from the time of the CSA. Predictably, I was ignored.

I think David Barton is the source of most of these Fake Quotes. Monticello.org keeps track of all the Jefferson Fake Quotes. There’s also a wingnut site, Guncite.org (“Gun Site,” get it?), that tracks Fake Quotes.

329 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 4:36:41am

re: #324 Vicious Babushka

330 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 4:38:07am

re: #329 Dark_Falcon

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Always use a . in front of the @Twittername when replying to a troll so that it goes out to everyone who’s following you, not to just the troll.

331 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 4:40:32am
332 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 4:43:13am

Anyone notice college rate loans doubling today? It costs 1/3 more to get a college loan than a house loan now, with home loans increasing to 4.46% in the last week and college loans now 6.8%. I suppose banks just weren’t making enough money from the future of young people.

Way to go, Congress. And good luck getting enough education to make enough money to buy that house if you can’t afford to go to college.

Why are Republicans screwing young people so hard? I suppose for the same reason they’re screwing any other group. They’ll soon be the party of the willfully ignorant, uneducated, backwater old reactionaries, making it totally unnecessary for any of those yahoos to form a “third party”.

333 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 4:54:23am

BBT

334 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 4:54:50am

re: #332 Justanotherhuman

You’re ignoring the upper-class types who don’t need loans to send their kids to college, and who may very well be and will remain Republican.

335 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 4:56:11am
336 abolitionist  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 5:02:05am

re: #328 Vicious Babushka

I think David Barton is the source of most of these Fake Quotes. Monticello.org keeps track of all the Jefferson Fake Quotes. There’s also a wingnut site, Guncite.org (“Gun Site,” get it?), that tracks Fake Quotes.

David-Barton-debunker-in-chief is Chris Rodda.

337 steve_davis  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 5:04:07am

re: #94 Decatur Deb

New Inspector Lewis in 15 min—BBL

over/under on Hathaway getting his own spin-off, after having something happen that pulls him back into deciding to become a DCI.

338 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 5:04:09am

re: #334 wheat-dogghazi

You’re ignoring the upper-class types who don’t need loans to send their kids to college, and who may very well be and will remain Republican.

Hedge-fund Aristocrats.

339 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 5:05:42am

Wingnut Meme o’the Day:

OBOMBA IZ GIVING AWAY 7 BILLION TO AFRICA (HIS HOME LAND!!11!!) BUT WE HAZ NO WHITE HOUS TOURZ!!11IMPEECH!!11!!!!!

340 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 5:07:01am

re: #336 abolitionist

Chris does an excellent job debunking D.Barton, which is in itself a full-time job. Someone needs also to step in to debunk D.Barton’s misquotation/misinterpretation of the Bible, which he abuses as much as he does history.

Barton just makes shit up, and says it comes from the Bible or one historical figure or another. His loyal followers eat it up (shit, that is), because they love their authority figures.

341 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 5:07:56am

re: #337 steve_davis

over/under on Hathaway getting his own spin-off, after having something happen that pulls him back into deciding to become a DCI.

Not soon—bummer. The show turned out to be the series ender, with Laurence Fox pulling the plug for a try at Hollywood. Maybe someday.

Upside: Next week is the first PBS showing of Endeavour, the 1965-era Morse prequel. (In the pilot film young Morse chased the bad guy around the Jag Mk2 he will someday own.)

342 abolitionist  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 5:12:28am

re: #340 wheat-dogghazi

Chris does an excellent job debunking D.Barton, which is in itself a full-time job. Someone needs also to step in to debunk D.Barton’s misquotation/misinterpretation of the Bible, which he abuses as much as he does history.

Barton just makes shit up, and says it comes from the Bible or one historical figure or another. His loyal followers eat it up (shit, that is), because they love their authority figures.

Also by Chris Rodda, LiarsForJesus.

To Mike Huckabee, just shoot me.

343 Sionainn  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 5:14:12am

re: #339 Vicious Babushka

Wingnut Meme o’the Day:

Instead of complaining about the White House tours, I’m seeing wingnuts complaining that there won’t be fireworks this year at military bases because of cuts.

344 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 5:15:01am

re: #338 Decatur Deb

Those were the ones who were going to college back in the 50s, when I was in HS. College was mainly for the elite. Along with a few stragglers who were still getting their education on the GI Bill, many of whom are “You miserable kids—get off my lawn” Republicans these days. They did make education a bit more democratic, but mainly for men at the time; women were still expected to only get their Mrs. degree.

345 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 5:17:40am

re: #344 Justanotherhuman

Those were the ones who were going to college back in the 50s, when I was in HS. College was mainly for the elite. Along with a few stragglers who were still getting their education on the GI Bill, many of whom are “You miserable kids—get off my lawn” Republicans these days. They did make education a bit more democratic, but mainly for men at the time; women were still expected to only get their Mrs. degree.

Went on the Vietnam era GI Bill, and the 3-11 shift on an assembly line. They are screwing the kids today. (That started with Gov RayGun’s pillage of the California college system.)

346 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 5:18:39am

re: #343 Sionainn

Instead of complaining about the White House tours, I’m seeing wingnuts complaining that there won’t be fireworks this year at military bases because of cuts.

Most of our troops have seen enough flashbang in the last 10 years.

347 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 5:18:40am

Report: Egyptian military deploys tanks on Gaza border

Palestinian and Egyptian eye witnesses told Turkey’s Anatolia news agency that a large amount of tanks arrived at the Sinai-Gaza border on Monday for the first time in years.

According to the witnesses, the Egyptian military has boosted deployment on the Gaza border by sending 30 tanks that are patrolling the area. “We’ve gotten used to seeing only armored vehicles, this is the first times we’ve seen tanks,” one witness said. (Roi Kais)

348 steve_davis  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 5:21:00am

re: #184 dragonath

You know, I think the media at large underestimated the presence of secularists in Egypt. It seems like there’s an overreach by the islamists at least once a generation. Morsi’s first prerogative was to pacify the country, not act as some two-bit Napoleon.

It should be interesting to see how well organized the liberals turn out next election.

ironically, napoleon tried to implement the first humane government in Egypt. the people largely rebelled because they’d frankly gotten so used to the corrupt assholes running things that they just didn’t like government where officials couldn’t be bribed.

349 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 5:24:27am

re: #343 Sionainn

Instead of complaining about the White House tours, I’m seeing wingnuts complaining that there won’t be fireworks this year at military bases because of cuts.

And they’ve also been complaining about no more hot breakfasts at military bases that are being dismantled.

350 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 5:28:54am
351 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 5:29:07am

re: #349 Vicious Babushka

Poor babies. All about bread and circuses, aren’t they?

352 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 5:36:25am

re: #349 Vicious Babushka

And they’ve also been complaining about no more hot breakfasts at military bases that are being dismantled.

Yeah. The cooks should be the last to fight their way out. That’s how they earn their Combat Culinary Badge (CCB).

353 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 5:36:54am

re: #325 Dark_Falcon

That’s a rotten thing to do and I hope that the helo dropped tear gass on them for that.

Nope. They dropped flags instead.


354 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 5:38:54am

Well, some nice news. My mom is feeling really generous and has offered to send me & Zedushka on another vacation to Israel next year, with a short stopover in a European destination of our choice. (My mom takes a luxury cruise every year with my sister and she feels bad that I don’t go with them)

Last year we stopped over in Amsterdam, which was really nice.

Zedushka would like to visit London this time, which would probably take more than one day, and the obligatory visits with relatives like my daughter’s in-laws.

Prague is on my bucket list.

Any other suggestions?

355 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 5:41:04am

re: #354 Vicious Babushka

Well, some nice news. My mom is feeling really generous and has offered to send me & Zedushka on another vacation to Israel next year, with a short stopover in a European destination of our choice. (My mom takes a luxury cruise every year with my sister and she feels bad that I don’t go with them)

Last year we stopped over in Amsterdam, which was really nice.

Zedushka would like to visit London this time, which would probably take more than one day, and the obligatory visits with relatives like my daughter’s in-laws.

Prague is on my bucket list.

Any other suggestions?

Venice—the first ghetto. Makes the “Merchant of..” real, and it’s Venice.

356 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 5:43:35am

re: #355 Decatur Deb

Venice—the first ghetto. Makes the “Merchant of..” real, and it’s Venice.

Venice is another “Bucket List” destination, problem is this is just a 1-2 day stopover on the way to Israel. Italy would have to be a destination in and of itself!

357 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 5:46:24am

re: #356 Vicious Babushka

Venice is another “Bucket List” destination, problem is this is just a 1-2 day stopover on the way to Israel. Italy would have to be a destination in and of itself!

OK. Stopover at the airport in Istanbul, see the riots, and sleep at my favorite hotel in the world:

yesilkoypansiyon.com

Izzy is from an ancient family of Turkish Jews. He has tales to tell.

358 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 5:46:44am

re: #354 Vicious Babushka

Copenhagen is awesome.

359 abolitionist  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 5:51:36am

19 Firefighters Killed In Ariz. Wildfire Called Deadliest In Decades by Bill Chappell July 01, 2013 7:22 AM
Excerpt:

Nearly all of those killed were part of the Granite Mountain Hotshots, an elite group based in Prescott, Ariz., that uses rigorous training to prepare for fighting wildfires. They are frequently deployed to the front lines of firefighting efforts against such blazes.

360 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 5:52:38am

re: #359 abolitionist

Holy shit. That is terrible. Beyond the simple human death, that’s a lot of experience and talent and dedication destroyed, and that probably means more deaths down the line that these men could have prevented.

Goddamn it. Does the whole southwest have to burn before the GOP accepts global warming?

361 sagehen  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 5:57:15am

re: #360 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Goddamn it. Does the whole southwest have to burn before the GOP accepts global warming?

That’s a rhetorical question, right? You’re not actually curious and uncertain of the answer?

362 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:02:33am

re: #360 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Your question? Probably. It’s not as though they’re not tragic enough in themselves.

Many condolences to those who those firefighters’ families and others who have suffered through this—250 homes lost already, as well.

And more ignorance: Mesa man accused of starting Sunflower Fire south of Payson

Read more: abc15.com

“PAYSON, AZ - A Mesa man is facing six months in prison and a $5,000 fine for his role in starting the Sunflower Fire which charred nearly 18,000 acres of Arizona land.

“Authorities said Steven Craig Shiflet, 23, from Mesa, and four of his friends were in the Sycamore Creek area for a campout and bachelor party on May 11, 2012.

“The group had been shooting at targets when Shiflet loaded a shell into his shotgun and fired it. Shortly after Shiflet fired the shot, smoke appeared in the brush just behind where the shot was fired.”

363 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:03:34am

Greets and salats from the NYC metro area (and a view of the City from the archives, including when trains ran down the middle of major avenues in a preview of Inception). Way soupy out there with low visibility and there’s a pretty good chance for rain here - something desperately needed out West, where 19 firefighters were killed while fighting a fire in Arizona. These were among the elite of elite wildfire fighters, and their loss will be felt for years to come. There’s perhaps no more hazardous and extreme firefighting duties in the nation than what they did on a daily basis.

Many of those killed in the Arizona blaze were either attempting to get into fire shelters or didn’t have time to do so, which indicates that conditions turned on them so quickly that they didn’t have a chance to respond.

That comes a day after our local paper highlighted the dangers of fighting structure fires - and the changes that resulted from a deadly fire in Hackensack NJ at a car dealership that killed 5 firefighters when the roof collapsed 25 years ago and resulted in sweeping changes in how firefighting takes place in structures (though some of the identified problems still need to be addressed).

364 kerFuFFler  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:05:22am

Currently, women can OPT for the free ultrasounds at the Christian centers. Making them mandatory not only gets rid of choice for the woman, it shifts the expense for these medically unnecessary procedures from the private christian organizations to the government, or the insurers——-both of whom pass it on to all of us!

I don’t want an unnecessary ultrasound and I certainly don’t want to pay for them for everybody.

365 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:23:43am

Your morning wakeup call:

NIN’s Discipline:

Youtube Video

EDIT:
And before anyone thinks that this is a bogus video, it’s the real deal, and is based on what happens in the prior album’s Survivalism video.

It’s also relevant to the current discussion about the ubiquity of video surveillance, the loss of privacy, and gay marriage.

366 geoffm33  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:25:44am

re: #364 kerFuFFler

Currently, women can OPT for the free ultrasounds at the Christian centers. Making them mandatory not only gets rid of choice for the woman, it shifts the expense for these medically unnecessary procedures from the private christian organizations to the government, or the insurers——-both of whom pass it on to all of us!

I don’t want an unnecessary ultrasound and I certainly don’t want to pay for them for everybody.

Which makes it a win-win for the proponents. They get to shame/guilt the patient, and pass the cost to the tax payer.

EDIT: Edited for speeling ;)

367 A Mom Anon  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:26:22am

re: #343 Sionainn

Maybe the military could stop their NASCAR and drag racing sponsorships and use that money for fireworks and flyovers and what have you that pisses wingnuts off. Why the hell is the military spending money on racing and other sports sponsorships anyhow? Isn’t that taxpayer money too? Or did I just kick a sacred cow?

368 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:29:52am

re: #364 kerFuFFler

So, those aren’t really “free”, and please tell me how these outfits, which are not medical facilities, are able to do this? They have no real trained medical personnel working in those faux “pregnancy” centers.

There is one of those in a converted house about 1/4 mi from me—I never see anyone going in there except those who run it, I’m presuming for meetings and such (no cars on most days—several cars maybe once a week). It’s a mixed use area on the major thoroughfare through this unincorporated burg and the house next to it has a “Vote the Bible” yard sign. {sigh} Evidently, from their report to those who support it with time and money, they’re getting most of their clients from the 2 local high schools where they’re allowed to proselytize. Mainly supported by a few local Baptist churches.

369 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:31:04am

re: #367 A Mom Anon

Does the military pay for “product placement” on the cars, or are the decals a kind of public service announcement?

370 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:33:14am

re: #369 wheat-dogghazi

Does the military pay for “product placement” on the cars, or are the decals a kind of public service announcement?

The military does indeed pay, claiming that doing so and being seen as a sponsor of a major racing team helps boost recruitment numbers.

371 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:33:39am

re: #369 wheat-dogghazi

Does the military pay for “product placement” on the cars, or are the decals a kind of public service announcement?

Pays a bunch, out of the recruiting function budgets.

372 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:35:28am

re: #370 Targetpractice

The military does indeed pay, claiming that doing so and being seen as a sponsor of a major racing team helps boost recruitment numbers.

Same with the various demonstration teams—Blue Angels, Golden Knights, etc.

373 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:36:46am

re: #368 Justanotherhuman

So, those aren’t really “free”, and please tell me how these outfits, which are not medical facilities, are able to do this? They have no real trained medical personnel working in those faux “pregnancy” centers.

He clearly wasn’t supporting the outfits. But yeah, I don’t think they actually do any prenatal care at all there.

374 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:37:12am

Well, I learned something. I haven’t watched a NASCAR race in maybe 40 or more years.

375 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:38:16am

re: #369 wheat-dogghazi

They actually “sponsor” cars, and I’m assuming pay for the “privilege”. It all started under Bush.

U.S. Army to discontinue NASCAR sponsorship in 2013

usatoday30.usatoday.com

“Myers said that the Army intended to continue sponsoring Tony Schumacher’s NHRA drag-racing team and its sponsorship of the All-American Bowl, a high school football game, because of better returns on the cost for those programs.”

That’s an old report updated last year.

376 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:38:39am
DeMint: She’s forgetting about the thousands of women who want an informed choice, who want the opportunity to get a free ultrasound, which they can get not from Planned Parenthood, but from a lot of these pregnancy centers.

But DeMented went on to say that while womenz want free stuff ultrasounds they don’t want Obamacare getting between them and their doctors, which is a sacred relationship. //

377 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:38:55am

re: #374 wheat-dogghazi

Well, I learned something. I haven’t watched a NASCAR race in maybe 40 or more years.

Around 72 million for all sports sponsorships, according to this. An attempt to curtail it failed, per this story.

espn.go.com

378 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:40:48am
379 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:43:35am
380 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:49:58am

re: #379 Lidane

Hooray for more ‘less government’.

//

381 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:53:46am

re: #377 Decatur Deb

Around 72 million for all sports sponsorships, according to this. An attempt to curtail it failed, per this story.

espn.go.com

$72M is pocket change for the military, though. But think how many White House tours for the kiddies that would fund!

//

382 abolitionist  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:53:47am

re: #380 Bulworth

Hooray for more ‘less government’.

//

Well, it’s a “budget matter” with all sorts of provisions, such as gag orders —an end-run around normal legislative process.

383 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:54:29am

re: #353 NJDhockeyfan

Video: Egyptian army helicopter drops flags over anti-Morsi protests

laced with smallpox?

384 A Mom Anon  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:56:28am

re: #375 Justanotherhuman

My husband is a big race fan. As of yesterday they’re still sponsoring the drag racing team, I haven’t paid attention to NASCAR this season to notice.

385 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:59:27am

Amidst the rush to impose new more abortion restrictions for womenz health, some of you might be wondering about plans to restore the Voting Rights Act in Congress.

Well, according to our man in DC, Jake Tapper, who talked to a “Republican on the Hill”, we might be waiting awhile. Why? Tapper’s Republican Hill source reflected that fixing the VRA is the kind of thing that will need to be done methodologically, slowly.

Or in other words, Never. But Tapper was either too dumb or in on the scam to comment about this approach to ensuring uninhibited voting rights, which are protected by the Constititution.

Meanwhile, abortion restrictions in the states and in Congress can be voted upon early and often, and House teapartiers surely can tee up a few more dozen roll call votes to repeal Obamacare.

//

386 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:02:41am
387 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:02:50am

The out of control health care costs Vol (lost count):

Giving birth - costs are insane, the level of care isn’t tied to the cost, and outcomes are no better, and in many cases worse, than similar procedures in Europe. A hospital is now coding out every ticky-tack procedure and item as a profit center, and passing on more and more to the patients, who aren’t seeing price transparency either.

When one hospital can’t even give a price for natural childbirth, instead option to give a range that runs from $4,500 to 10 times that amount, you know something’s wrong. I understand that there could be complications that drive up the cost, but how can you compare costs or understand what’s necessary from what is an add-on profit center cost when the hospitals themselves aren’t even clear what these items cost.

388 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:05:11am

re: #387 lawhawk

The out of control health care costs Vol (lost count):

Giving birth - costs are insane, the level of care isn’t tied to the cost, and outcomes are no better, and in many cases worse, than similar procedures in Europe. A hospital is now coding out every ticky-tack procedure and item as a profit center, and passing on more and more to the patients, who aren’t seeing price transparency either.

When one hospital can’t even give a price for natural childbirth, instead option to give a range that runs from $4,500 to 10 times that amount, you know something’s wrong. I understand that there could be complications that drive up the cost, but how can you compare costs or understand what’s necessary from what is an add-on profit center cost when the hospitals themselves aren’t even clear what these items cost.

This at least can explain why my oldest daughter has chosen home birth, which totally freaked me out the first time that she did it (and she is a health care professional).

389 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:05:22am

re: #387 lawhawk

The out of control health care costs Vol (lost count):

Giving birth - costs are insane, the level of care isn’t tied to the cost, and outcomes are no better, and in many cases worse, than similar procedures in Europe. A hospital is now coding out every ticky-tack procedure and item as a profit center, and passing on more and more to the patients, who aren’t seeing price transparency either.

When one hospital can’t even give a price for natural childbirth, instead option to give a range that runs from $4,500 to 10 times that amount, you know something’s wrong. I understand that there could be complications that drive up the cost, but how can you compare costs or understand what’s necessary from what is an add-on profit center cost when the hospitals themselves aren’t even clear what these items cost.

Obviously you get a better kid for the $45,000 delivery. Let the market decide!!!

390 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:07:47am

re: #387 lawhawk

The out of control health care costs Vol (lost count):

Caesarians are preferred because the doctor can schedule them in so as not to miss his golf game, natural births are messy and tend to come at the most inconvenient of times…

391 abolitionist  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:11:24am

re: #390 Sol Berdinowitz

Caesarians are preferred because the doctor can schedule them in so as not to miss his golf game, natural births are messy and tend to come at the most inconvenient of times…

Altho there were other reasons for their caesarean deliveries, I’m rather thankful that my daughters were born while the doctors and nurses were awake.

392 Iwouldprefernotto  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:15:20am

re: #356 Vicious Babushka

Venice is another “Bucket List” destination, problem is this is just a 1-2 day stopover on the way to Israel. Italy would have to be a destination in and of itself!

I loved the Ghetto in Venice. Check out the Synagogues.

Venice is touristy but worth seeing.

393 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:18:08am

re: #387 lawhawk

A report I heard this am on MSNBC said that the average cost of birth in the UK is $2600. And while the UK has a ratio of 4.56 mortalities per 1,000 live births for infants under 1 yr, the US is 5.98. indexmundi.com

Afghanistan has the worst rate: 121.63 Even Cuba, that socialist outpost, at 4.83, has a better rate than the US. Monaco, where probably no one is poor or at war, has the best results, with a 1.8 rate, and Japan is next best, at 2.21.

394 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:22:04am

re: #392 Iwouldprefernotto

I loved the Ghetto in Venice. Check out the Synagogues.

Venice is touristy but worth seeing.

See it while you can—it is the most precious thing at greatest risk from rising sea levels.

en.wikipedia.org

395 dragonath  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:26:09am

The Treasury of St. Mark’s is a cool place to go if you wanna see what the Venetians nicked off the Byzantines.

396 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:29:34am


397 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:30:01am

re: #395 dragonath

The Treasury of St. Mark’s is a cool place to go if you wanna see what the Venetians nicked off liberated from the Byzantines.

Just like they liberated the body of St. Mark from the Egyptian Christians.

398 H.K. Anders  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:34:20am

Classic orwellian weaselspeak from Ralph Reed: “Women’s right-to-know laws.”

Yes, because forcing a woman to endure an unwanted vaginal penetration is all about respecting her rights.

399 Baboon Cheeks  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:36:07am

re: #396 lawhawk

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Ellsberg needs to stop demeaning Ellsberg. It’s disgusting - does the man have no shame?

400 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:37:46am

Egyptian military just gave 24 hour notice before they act. looks like a coup.

401 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:38:58am

re: #347 NJDhockeyfan

Report: Egyptian military deploys tanks on Gaza border

Off the wall idea, but could rolling tanks around in the area as a show/maneuver be a subtle way to collapse smuggling tunnels?

403 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:41:46am

re: #401 Feline Fearless Leader

While they might work in collapsing shallower tunnels, the folks who have been building these tunnels have grown quite sophisticated in their methods, including making reinforced concrete tunnels and ones sufficiently deep and strong enough to resist that kind of effort.

In the arms race between the tunneler and the security forces trying to secure the border against the illegal tunnels, the tunnelers are winning.

404 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:42:58am

re: #402 Killgore Trout

oops, 48 hours
BREAKING: Egyptian military gives 48 hour ultimatum to Brotherhood, political forces

re: #400 Killgore Trout

Egyptian military just gave 24 hour notice before they act. looks like a coup.

Turkish model—violates the principle of democratic self-determination, but gets everybody through the week relatively alive.

405 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:43:38am

re: #402 Killgore Trout

oops, 48 hours
BREAKING: Egyptian military gives 48 hour ultimatum to Brotherhood, political forces


Alot can happen in 48 hours.

406 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:44:06am
407 sagehen  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:45:47am

re: #390 Sol Berdinowitz

Caesarians are preferred because the doctor can schedule them in so as not to miss his golf game, natural births are messy and tend to come at the most inconvenient of times…

It used to be that OB’s (and anesthesiologists) charged by the hour — a natural delivery took as long as it took, they’d only go c-section if there was a medical necessity (more difficult work for them, at the same hourly rate, let’s only do it if we have to). This is also why women on their 3rd or 4th birth used to pace around the house, timing contractions, not wanting to go to the hospital until they were reasonably close to delivery time.

Then HMO’s decided that labor and delivery should be a set-fee thing, the fee set being based on an average amount of time. If it takes longer than that, the doctors are working for free. A c-section was another set-fee. So now if labor is going slow, and they don’t want to spend another 13 hours on something that they’re not going to get paid for, they say “fuck it, I’m going in”, do a quick c-section and get home for dinner (plus another fee).

It’s no skin off the doctor’s nose that now the patient needs to stay at the hospital for longer, and her recovery time and maternity leave from work is going to be longer, and her husband has to take time off to care for both her and the baby because she’s just had abdominal surgery and can’t really do it without help just yet…

408 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:45:54am

re: #395 dragonath

The Treasury of St. Mark’s is a cool place to go if you wanna see what the Venetians nicked off the Byzantines.

I played off that in a role-playing game this weekend.

We’re doing an Arthurian campaign and Arthur just conquered Rome (yes, it’s in Malory.) One of my characters there suggested to Arthur to take some nice bronze horses to help decorate Camelot with.

The GM actually caught the reference, though no one else did.

409 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:48:06am

Hahahaha:

410 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:48:19am

Morsi. America’s fault. Egypt military? Backed by America. Whatever results of this? Since the US back the Egyptian military the next Egyptian leadership will be, “America’s fault.” Death to America!

//

411 Iwouldprefernotto  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:50:56am

re: #409 Lidane

Hahahaha:
Robert Knight calls on Southern California to secede to stop marriage equality and gay “jihad”
[Embedded content]

I can’t decide if “Gay Jihad” would be a better name for a band or a reality show.

412 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:51:14am

Why does democracy exist at all in the world today? America’s fault!!!

413 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:52:08am

re: #411 Iwouldprefernotto

I can’t decide if “Gay Jihad” would be a better name for a band or a reality show.

How about the feminist version? The Vay-jay-had…

414 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:52:24am

re: #411 Iwouldprefernotto

I can’t decide if “Gay Jihad” would be a better name for a band or a reality show.

Neither

A new energy drink, though!

415 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:53:09am

re: #412 Sol Berdinowitz

Why does democracy exist at all in the world today? America’s fault!!!

It’s always America’s fault. Anyone see Destro lately? //

416 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:54:43am

re: #412 Sol Berdinowitz

Why does democracy exist at all in the world today? America’s fault!!!

I blame the Greeks for that.

417 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:55:29am

Ah, just noticed the overnight butthurt. I insulted the man-child comedian and mediocre guitarist.

418 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:55:39am
419 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:56:00am

re: #416 Killgore Trout

I blame the Greeks for that.

On the positive side, they did give us Toga Parties !

420 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:56:45am

re: #417 Gus

Ah, just noticed the overnight butthurt. I insulted the man-child comedian and mediocre guitarist.

Which one(s)!!!

//

421 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:58:29am

re: #420 sattv4u2

Which one(s)!!!

//

Pepe Gupeto! The gypsy king! //

422 Iwouldprefernotto  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:58:41am

re: #418 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

I think the longer Snowden stays in Moscow, the more likely he will be returning to the US.

423 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:59:49am
424 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:00:02am

re: #421 Gus

Pepe Gupeto! The gypsy king! //

I prefer Topo Gigio

Image: topo-gigio-7.jpg

425 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:00:38am

re: #417 Gus

Ah, just noticed the overnight butthurt. I insulted the man-child comedian and mediocre guitarist.

Heh. I made the List of Honor for insulting the Muslim Bros. But, you’re right. Both Hicks and Zappa would have probably been Paulians.

426 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:03:22am

re: #409 Lidane

What? Does he think gays only live in northern Cal? If SoCal were to secede, and he stayed there, he’d be in for a big surprise.

427 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:03:59am

re: #425 Killgore Trout

Heh. I made the List of Honor for insulting the Muslim Bros. Bet, you’re right. Both Hicks and Zappa would have probably been Paulians.

Anyone that payed any attention would realize that they were both at least libertarians. It’s in their words. They were both anti-government. Hicks was a conspiracy theorist about JFK.

428 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:04:19am

re: #417 Gus

Ah, just noticed the overnight butthurt. I insulted the man-child comedian and mediocre guitarist.

I’ve never understood the fascination with Zappa. Most free jazz was more musical and his political insight is straight paul-bot territory. < shrug >

429 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:04:34am

Is it payed or paid? Anyway.

430 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:04:43am
431 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:06:56am

re: #428 William Barnett-Lewis

He has some awesome lyrics and some truly great songs. He’s also got a lot of what seem like failed attempts that are on records anyway, but maybe they’re awesome and I just don’t get them.

He kind of reminds me of Primus.

432 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:06:56am

re: #426 wheat-dogghazi

What? Does he think gays only live in northern Cal? If SoCal were to secede, and he stayed there, he’d be in for a big surprise.

Maybe we should split off Orange County as a separate nation with the same status as a sovereign Native American enclave. They don’t get foreign policy, they get their precious tax breaks, and we can give the Dept of the Interior an additional office for dealing with them.

And then Obama can trigger the modern Trail of Tears by forcing thousands of additional nuts into the area to overwhelm the available resources, underfund the support structures, and send in corrupt overseers. You know, give them all a nice taste of the short end of the stick for a few decades.
////

433 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:07:56am

re: #428 William Barnett-Lewis

I’ve never understood the fascination with Zappa. Most free jazz was more musical and his political insight is straight paul-bot territory. < shrug >

Do not understand conflation of musicians/entertainers and politicians. Zappa had some interesting comments on life in America, but I would not want him running things.

Likewise people like John Stewart.

434 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:08:48am

re: #433 Sol Berdinowitz

Do not understand conflation of musicians/entertainers and politicians. Zappa had some interesting comments on life in America, but I would not want him running things.

Likewise people like John Stewart.

Colbert for Dictator!
;)

435 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:10:06am

re: #427 Gus

Hitchens was totally right that having fringe people saying whacko stuff is useful to society because it requires us to check our bullshit. The Kennedy assassination, for example, isn’t untrue because it’s unthinkable that people would conspire to kill the president, but just because the actual story doesn’t match up with a conspiracy and multiple shooters.

It’s when the conspiracies and untruths mainstream that we get trouble. Like the belief that women aren’t as smart or capable as men, that bullshit was mainstream for like, so long, man.

436 GunstarGreen  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:12:15am

re: #107 Gus

And we’re going to support these guys? I need a drink.

There’s a lesson somewhere in there about sticking our noses where they don’t belong, getting involved in rebellions we have no business in.

But nah, fuck it. We’ll keep doing it over and over because WORLD POLICE and DA TURRISTS and the like.

437 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:13:19am

Interesting. Over at HuffPost UK “Paedophile Priest ‘Exposes Satanic Vatican Rent-Boy Sex Ring’” is still one notch ahead in popularity over ” Catholic Priest ‘Beheaded By Jihadist Fighters In Syria’.” It wasn’t just a priest. They beheaded two Catholics for a total of three. Beheaded like pigs in the slaughter house because-of-their-religion.

438 abolitionist  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:13:51am

re: #435 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Hitchens was totally right that having fringe people saying whacko stuff is useful to society because it requires us to check our bullshit. The Kennedy assassination, for example, isn’t untrue because it’s unthinkable that people would conspire to kill the president, but just because the actual story doesn’t match up with a conspiracy and multiple shooters.

It’s when the conspiracies and untruths mainstream that we get trouble. Like the belief that women aren’t as smart or capable as men, that bullshit was mainstream for like, so long, man.

“You need the deviate. You need someone to tell you when you’re blowing it.” —Lenny Bruce (as accurately as I can recall it)

439 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:15:26am

re: #434 Feline Fearless Leader

Colbert for Dictator!
;)

I always thought he should be the head of a potato chip factory

No, not Colbert

Dick Tater!

440 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:17:51am

re: #435 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Hitchens was totally right that having fringe people saying whacko stuff is useful to society because it requires us to check our bullshit. The Kennedy assassination, for example, isn’t untrue because it’s unthinkable that people would conspire to kill the president, but just because the actual story doesn’t match up with a conspiracy and multiple shooters.

It’s when the conspiracies and untruths mainstream that we get trouble. Like the belief that women aren’t as smart or capable as men, that bullshit was mainstream for like, so long, man.

Well, chalk one up for drunk thoughts. :)

441 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:18:48am

re: #437 Gus

And I bet a lot of the same people that approved of the US’s partnership with warlords in Afghanistan to topple the Taliban will say that this shows that Obama is buddy with Muslims.

I have no idea how to perform the calculus on whether arming the rebels is good or not. Either way blood and ashes.

442 GunstarGreen  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:19:53am

re: #441 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

And I bet a lot of the same people that approved of the US’s partnership with warlords in Afghanistan to topple the Taliban will say that this shows that Obama is buddy with Muslims.

I have no idea how to perform the calculus on whether arming the rebels is good or not. Either way blood and ashes.

The calculus is incredibly simple:

Not Our Problem. Shouldn’t Be Involved.

443 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:20:18am
444 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:21:26am

re: #442 GunstarGreen

The calculus is incredibly simple:

Not Our Problem. Shouldn’t Be Involved.

As long as we consume five times our share of the world’s resources per capita, we simply have to be prepared to deal with five times our share of the world’s problems.

445 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:22:08am

re: #441 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

And I bet a lot of the same people that approved of the US’s partnership with warlords in Afghanistan to topple the Taliban will say that this shows that Obama is buddy with Muslims.

I have no idea how to perform the calculus on whether arming the rebels is good or not. Either way blood and ashes.

Yes, there is that too. The argle bargle about MOOZLIMS and Obama because of this beheading from the wingnut peanut gallery.

446 Stanghazi  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:22:35am

re: #443 Gus

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Bizarre.

447 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:22:44am

re: #443 Gus

[Embedded content]

he must stop leaking American secrets to China and Equador.

ftfH

(fixed that for him)

448 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:24:47am

NYC metro area seeing flash flood watches and warnings pop up, as well as severe t-storm and even tornado watches (for Fairfield County CT).

449 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:26:10am

re: #443 Gus

So wait, Obama strongarmed Putin? Unpossible.

Or, the more likely explanation is that Putin sees little value from Snowden’s continuing presence and undermines longer term US-Russian relations, so boot him to some other country and maintain the status quo on diplomatic levels, all while reaping benefits of Snowden’s continued leaks. Win-win.

450 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:26:23am

re: #442 GunstarGreen

The calculus is incredibly simple:

Not Our Problem. Shouldn’t Be Involved.

I’d say that’s simplistic, rather than simple.

I’d have rather we did intervene at times like Rwanda and didn’t go in at times like Iraq.

451 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:27:35am

DERP
Bryan the message in this video is not what you think it means.

452 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:28:07am

re: #449 lawhawk

So wait, Obama strongarmed Putin? Unpossible.

Or, the more likely explanation is that Putin sees little value from Snowden’s continuing presence and undermines longer term US-Russian relations, so boot him to some other country and maintain the status quo on diplomatic levels, all while reaping benefits of Snowden’s continued leaks. Win-win.

Stop leaking American secrets! Just hand over the laptops. //

453 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:28:53am
454 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:28:54am

You know, I had a wonderful weekend. I didn’t read email or pay attention to current events.

Hubby was inspired. Currently there is homemade Guacamole and PESTO in the fridge.

you?

455 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:29:46am

re: #454 FemNaziBitch

You know, I had a wonderful weekend. I didn’t read email or pay attention to current events.

Hubby was inspired. Currently there is homemade Guacamole and PESTO in the fridge.

you?

No. I’m not in the fridge!

456 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:31:02am

re: #442 GunstarGreen

The calculus is incredibly simple:

Not Our Problem. Shouldn’t Be Involved.

Also known as an SEP.

457 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:33:06am

re: #455 sattv4u2

No. I’m not in the fridge!

I’m not suprised. NO one would ever describe you as cool.

:0!

458 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:33:42am

re: #454 FemNaziBitch

You know, I had a wonderful weekend. I didn’t read email or pay attention to current events.

Hubby was inspired. Currently there is homemade Guacamole and PESTO in the fridge.

you?

Quiet weekend and busy work morning.

Role-playing session with friends over in NJ on Saturday. Spent yesterday lazing around with the cats watching it rain, and then watching baseball, and finally the big soccer match.

I’m getting the impression I need more home time with the cats to help get them socialized and possibly doing less acting out behavior. Or it might be that they were keeping tighter tabs on me yesterday since they went 12+ hours without food or staff support on Saturday…

459 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:33:58am

re: #457 FemNaziBitch

I’m not suprised. NO one would ever described you as cool.

:0!

I know All the women say i’m HOT!!!

:)

460 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:34:40am

Bryan would not take Pascal’s wager over climate change, but he will always offer it to unbelievers over eternal hell.

461 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:34:46am

Weekend Food Pr0n.

What is it?

462 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:35:32am
463 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:36:02am

re: #458 Feline Fearless Leader

Quiet weekend and busy work morning.

Role-playing session with friends over in NJ on Saturday. Spent yesterday lazing around with the cats watching it rain, and then watching baseball, and finally the big soccer match.

I’m getting the impression I need more home time with the cats to help get them socialized and possibly doing less acting out behavior. Or it might be that they were keeping tighter tabs on me yesterday since they went 12+ hours without food or staff support on Saturday…

hmmmmmm

464 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:36:06am

re: #461 FemNaziBitch

Weekend Food Pr0n.

What is it?

slice o’ lime?

465 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:36:20am

re: #461 FemNaziBitch

Citrus backlit. I’d go with a lemon lime cut cross section.

Just noticed how dark the rind is - lime more likely than lemon.

466 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:37:04am

re: #465 lawhawk

Citrus backlit. I’d go with a lemon cut cross section.

Satt got it on the first try.

467 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:38:46am

re: #461 FemNaziBitch

Weekend Food Pr0n.

What is it?

Looks like a backlit thin slice of a citrus fruit.

468 Mattand  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:39:53am

re: #435 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Hitchens was totally right that having fringe people saying whacko stuff is useful to society because it requires us to check our bullshit. The Kennedy assassination, for example, isn’t untrue because it’s unthinkable that people would conspire to kill the president, but just because the actual story doesn’t match up with a conspiracy and multiple shooters.

It’s when the conspiracies and untruths mainstream that we get trouble. Like the belief that women aren’t as smart or capable as men, that bullshit was mainstream for like, so long, man.

Is it considered ironic that Hitchens said the bolded, and then went to his grave convinced Saddam Hussein was involved in the 9/11 attacks?

469 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:40:11am
470 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:41:11am

re: #468 Mattand

I think in 2013 everything has become ironic.

471 Mattand  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:42:31am

re: #470 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

I think in 2013 everything has become ironic.

LOL, at least that saves me from actually looking up the definition.

472 Sionainn  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:46:00am

re: #386 Lidane

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How much are we paying for Bush to be there, too?!?
///

473 CriticalDragon1177  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:47:38am

re: #3 jaunte

Demint begins with the biggest lie:
Gosnell case “shows the horrendous conditions inside these clinics.”

More like what things would be like if Abortion was still illegal

474 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:48:34am

Somebody with this profile followed me on Twitter. Spambot?

Laughter Fan. Freelance Political Nerd. Human-Centric. Tahitian Fro-Yo Analyst. Gifted Orchestrator. Pragmatic Progressive. Communicator. Have Pup Named Blue.

475 Weet  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:50:47am

Must read. Kirk Watson (the mastermind behind last week’s Texas filibuster) tells what really happened.

“It’s ironic (to put it kindly) that these folks who so shamelessly ignored the rules to get their way have now, insultingly, applied the “unruly” label to the citizens who packed into their Texas Capitol on Tuesday.”
Protest Caused by Unruly Bunch in Control

476 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:52:39am
477 CriticalDragon1177  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:52:41am

re: #409 Lidane

Hahahaha:


Won’t do the homophobes much good now anyway. They’re not going to be able to stop marriage equality, and without DOMA states won’t be able to deny same sex marriage licenses when people get married in other states.

478 Mattand  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:52:50am

re: #458 Feline Fearless Leader

Role-playing session with friends over in NJ on Saturday.

Going on 10 years now (ugh), but I tried getting back into old school Dungeons and Dragons with some friends/acquaintances. Mentioned these guys the other day; they’re the ones who watched the shock-and-awe bombing of Baghdad on Fox, drinking and giggling the whole time.

Came away with some interesting lessons:

1) Being the Dungeon Master/ref sucks. It’s like being an umpire and the most hated teacher in school at the same time.

2) It was my intro into what Fox News was and the modern conservative mindset. Basically acting like bigoted dipshits and then saying they’re politically incorrect.

3) Playing D&D with ignorant bigots is probably the definition of ironic, in that the game requires characters of all races to work together. Watching two guys play as a dwarf and an elf, and then complain about the Hispanic guys they were “forced” to sit next to at the Lord of the Rings movie was just surreal.

BTW, the problem with Hispanic guys was they were Hispanic. Seriously. That was the issue.

From now, if I get the itch, I’ll just sign up for D&D Online or World of Warcraft and let the computer do the hard work.

I still love paging through the Monster Manual from time-to-time, though.

479 GunstarGreen  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:53:50am

re: #450 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

re: #456 FemNaziBitch

Also known as an SEP.

So, we supported the rebels. Had this big brouhaha with McCain waddling on down to the floor to announce we were giving them military aid. Now they’re beheading people. Including priests.

Maybe you folks are okay with throwing our lot in with barbarians. I’m not. When given a choice between a plate full of dung, and a plate full of feces, I choose not to eat shit.

480 darthstar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:54:16am

re: #422 Iwouldprefernotto

I think the longer Snowden stays in Moscow, the more likely he will be returning to the US.

The longer he stays in Moscow, the more he realizes his best chance at getting the attention he desires is to come back to the US.

481 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:59:32am
482 CriticalDragon1177  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:00:12am

re: #460 Vicious Babushka

Bryan would not take Pascal’s wager over climate change, but he will always offer it to unbelievers over eternal hell.

Oh Bryan you have such a “good” grasp of reality. Especially when you pointed out how people like you are being so persecuted

483 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:00:57am

LOL

484 CriticalDragon1177  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:02:05am

re: #483 Vicious Babushka


Huh? What?

485 darthstar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:02:30am
486 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:03:13am
487 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:03:35am

DERP.

488 HAL2010  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:05:06am
489 CriticalDragon1177  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:05:57am

re: #152 Gus


LOL!

490 HAL2010  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:06:10am
491 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:06:52am

re: #411 Iwouldprefernotto

I can’t decide if “Gay Jihad” would be a better name for a band or a reality show.

A line of apparel.

492 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:07:07am

re: #487 Vicious Babushka

DERP.

SCOTUS didn’t restore Jim Crow with ruling on Voting Rights, but did on DOMA ruling. Christians are all now Dred Scot.

You mean they have to be returned to their slave masters regardless of how long they have been living outside a slave state?

493 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:07:07am

re: #487 Vicious Babushka

DERP.

[Embedded content]SCOTUS didn’t restore Jim Crow with ruling on Voting Rights, but did on DOMA ruling. Christians are all now Dred Scot.

I swear, If any of our Alabama biblebangers make it to the Ohio and survive the swim, I will NOT petition for their return.

494 abolitionist  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:08:21am

re: #487 Vicious Babushka

DERP.

Bryan Fischer misunderstands the Dred Scott issue. The Constitution is not his ownership papers. But the Bible? Maybe.

495 b.d.  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:08:29am

re: #483 Vicious Babushka

Free the info Glenn!!! Information wants to be free!! Why so secretive? Let us be our own judge on what needs to be secret, not you!!

//

496 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:08:32am

re: #487 Vicious Babushka

Low hanging fruit once again from Fischer…

497 CriticalDragon1177  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:08:38am

re: #487 Vicious Babushka

DERP.


Correction, its not a DERP, its a Mega DERP of doom, run for your lives! :()

498 piratedan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:08:41am

re: #487 Vicious Babushka

DERP.

does that mean that Bryan is now reduced to being property again? Then put his ass back out in the fields, those crops aren’t gonna grow themselves dammit!

499 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:08:54am

re: #443 Gus

Bzuh? Is that like taking a job at Pepsi if you promise to STFU about Coca-Cola?

500 GunstarGreen  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:09:17am

re: #487 Vicious Babushka

DERP.

[Embedded content]

Wow. WOW. It takes some serious (-ly racist) balls to invoke Dred Scott when talking about DOMA.

I don’t even. How has he not been punched yet?

501 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:09:22am
502 HAL2010  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:09:28am
503 piratedan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:09:47am

re: #484 CriticalDragon1177

Huh? What?

ummm, doesn’t this disingenuous fucker have a blog?

504 kirkspencer  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:10:02am

re: #460 Vicious Babushka

Bryan would not take Pascal’s wager over climate change, but he will always offer it to unbelievers over eternal hell.

[Embedded content]

The actual report from the epa is here. Reading it shows that Bryan’s source did a little selective quotation, ignoring such things as what the chart is telling you and the fact that the area of the US experiencing heat waves is increasing and, well, just go read the two page report. Or recognize that Bryan never tells the whole truth when he bothers to tell the truth at all.

505 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:10:51am
506 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:11:40am

re: #2 PhillyPretzel

To the GOP: get out of my bedroom and out of my house. And do not let the door hit you on the way out.

I’VE STOLEN IT!

507 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:13:22am
508 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:16:06am


The orange sign that says My Body My Choice is being held by my former academic advisor.

I wish I could be at this rally, but work beckons today. I’m there in spirit, though.

509 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:17:30am

re: #507 wrenchwench

First same-sex couple gets green card approval—first time in U.S. history!

exploding heads…worst nighmares come true…first the homos are going to come over and then start breeding like rats and then…

wait, let me get back to you on the details, but rest for sure that they are awful

510 HAL2010  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:18:57am
511 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:19:04am

The GOP Whackos seem to misunderstand the way things work in this country. Being Morally Right , may be true (or not)
It doesn’t usurp my VOTE.

One vote, one person.

The Morally Right’s vote does NOT count more than MY VOTE.

512 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:21:02am

WOW

513 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:21:13am

re: #509 Sol Berdinowitz

exploding heads…worst nighmares come true…first the homos are going to come over and then start breeding like rats and then…

wait, let me get back to you on the details, but rest for sure that they are awful

Dogs and cats living together! Pineapples on pizza! Anarchy!

514 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:22:12am

Bummer.

515 kirkspencer  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:22:19am

re: #511 FemNaziBitch

The GOP Whackos seem to misunderstand the way things work in this country. Being Morally Right , may be true (or not)
It doesn’t usurp my VOTE.

One vote, one person.

The Morally Right’s vote does NOT count more than MY VOTE.

They are, among other things, Gideonists. They believe that trite saying “our strength is as the strength of ten because [pick self-righteous reason]”, and they think it should apply in all endeavors. They keep stumbling over the fact of democracy not working that way and propose many ‘solutions’ to rectify this.

516 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:23:16am
517 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:23:34am

re: #509 Sol Berdinowitz

exploding heads…worst nighmares come true…first the homos are going to come over and then start breeding like rats and then…

wait, let me get back to you on the details, but rest for sure that they are awful

It’s an end-run around the GOP, which took same-sex couples provisions out of the immigration bill.

Now we just need an end-run around a 2,000 mile wall.

518 Dr. Matt  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:25:22am
Beautifully Warped Landscapes From Apple’s Glitchy Maps App

wired.com

Some of those look like a cross between MC Escher and Salvador Dali.

519 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:25:27am

Last I heard, one cannot vote by proxy in State or Federal Elections.

Methinks the Whacko’s have totally confused corporate stockholders with citizens.

520 HAL2010  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:27:02am
521 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:28:35am

re: #518 Dr. Matt

Some of those look like a cross between MC Escher and Salvador Dali.

Which is not entirely a bad thing.

522 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:28:52am

Happy Birthday Deborah Harry (aka Blondie), who turned 68. 68? When did that happen?

Youtube Video

523 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:29:18am

I think I may delete all the current event based emails in my in box, WITHOUT reading them. Unless anyone here objects, of course.

524 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:30:39am

Because this makes so much sense:

Ohio Simultaneously Makes It Harder to Prevent a Pregnancy, and Harder to Terminate One

The ruse that the anti-choice movement is about “life” has been harder to maintain in recent years, as lawmakers have starting attacking contraception access (which reduces the need for abortion, duh). Gov. John Kasich of Ohio took it a step further Sunday night, signing a bill that merges his party’s anti-contraception and anti-abortion agendas into one. The budget bill (of course!) Packs a one-two-three punch of making it harder for women to prevent pregnancies, harder for women to terminate pregnancies, and harder for low-income women to keep their babies.

525 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:31:10am

re: #520 HAL2010

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FTA

Accordingly, the Armed Forces feels obligated to embrace the will of the people who proved they are able to do the impossible.

Without coming right out and saying it, it looks as if the armed forces are ready to oust Morsi if something isn’t resolved in 48 hrs (very unlikely, btw)

526 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:31:28am

re: #516 Lidane

It’s a TRAP, and the whole impetus is to arrange for a showdown over Roe and Planned Parenthood v. Casey.

527 HAL2010  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:31:32am
528 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:31:40am

re: #490 HAL2010

I think the anti-Wilileaks folk are viewing this as a “please proceed” moment.

529 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:32:01am
530 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:32:14am

re: #518 Dr. Matt

Some of those look like a cross between MC Escher and Salvador Dali.

The second one is oddly reminiscent of a Road Runner cartoon.

531 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:33:01am
532 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:33:31am

re: #522 lawhawk

Happy Birthday Deborah Harry (aka Blondie), who turned 68. 68? When did that happen?

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I think that was one of the first “white” versions of rap. A big risk on Blondie’s part.

I’m struck by how much she is not allowed to move her body.

533 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:34:22am

re: #524 Lidane

Because this makes so much sense:

Ohio Simultaneously Makes It Harder to Prevent a Pregnancy, and Harder to Terminate One

NEED MOAR WHITE BABIEZ

534 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:35:25am

re: #531 Gus

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AND WE ARE OFF on the great Appeals Race to the Supreme Court!

535 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:36:03am

re: #531 Gus

Of course he is. After all, who knows better about women’s health and women’s bodies and women’s choices than a bunch of men?

////

536 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:36:20am

No educated, white woman is going to willing let a foetal parasite wreck her body and derail her career. The only way around it is to use their sex drive to lure them into pregnancy and the power of the law to force them to bear it to term.

/

537 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:37:07am

AMERICA IZ DOOMED, continued:

538 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:37:11am

re: #535 Lidane

Of course he is. After all, who knows better about women’s health and women’s bodies and women’s choices than a bunch of men?

////

this is not a women’s health issue. it is about reflecting (their bigoted, narrow-minded version of ) god’s divine law in civil legislation

539 HAL2010  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:37:45am
540 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:38:23am

re: #538 Sol Berdinowitz

this is not a women’s health issue. it is about reflecting (their bigoted, narrow-minded version of ) god’s divine law in civil legislation

Oh, I know. They want to shove women back into their mythical time when women spent all their time barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. A time that NEVER ACTUALLY EXISTED.

541 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:39:32am
542 Dr. Matt  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:39:55am

re: #537 Lidane

Renew America warns dumping DOMA will promote Sharia law and invite the Antichrist to rule world t.co
— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) July 1, 2013

This makes sense because Islam is so open to gay marriage.

543 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:40:06am

hmmm, babies born in 2013 will (if not somehow disenfranchised) be voting in 2041.

AS the ESTIMATE is that uo to 80% of black men in Chicago are currently disenfranchised, I’m wondering how the Whacko’s think they are going to pull- off the great demonization of the majority of babies born this year.

Voter ID Laws Could Disenfranchise 1 Million Young Minority Voters: Study

544 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:40:25am

re: #538 Sol Berdinowitz

this is not a women’s health issue. it is about reflecting (their bigoted, narrow-minded version of ) god’s divine law in civil legislation

IT’S AN ECONOMIC ISSUE

545 HAL2010  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:40:34am
546 abolitionist  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:41:17am

re: #542 Dr. Matt

This makes sense because Islam is so open to gay marriage.

And multi-cultural adoptions.

547 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:41:29am

re: #540 Lidane

Oh, I know. They want to shove women back into their mythical time when women spent all their time barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. A time that NEVER ACTUALLY EXISTED.

Hubby and I started watching Mad Men (on NetFlix). After the first 3 episodes, I’m not sure I want to watch anymore.

548 piratedan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:41:54am

re: #542 Dr. Matt

This makes sense because Islam is so open to gay marriage.

methinks that they have no dots to connect

549 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:42:32am

re: #547 FemNaziBitch

Hubby and I started watching Mad Men (on NetFlix). After the first 3 episodes, I’m not sure I want to watch anymore.

I watched one episode.

550 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:43:05am

re: #394 Decatur Deb

See it while you can—it is the most precious thing at greatest risk from rising sea levels.

en.wikipedia.org

One of the vampire novels I wrote a couple of years ago was set in Venice about the time of The Terror. My vampire couple was ensconced in this place: Scala Contarini del Bovolo.

551 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:43:22am

re: #537 Lidane

Does the Anti-Christ have to be invited to rule? I assumed he, she, or it would just kinda start ruling whenever they wanted. //

552 HAL2010  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:43:57am
553 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:44:00am

re: #547 FemNaziBitch

Hubby and I started watching Mad Men (on NetFlix). After the first 3 episodes, I’m not sure I want to watch anymore.

I grew up in the era they are depicting in the series, do not find it at all nostalgic or worthy of revisiting.

554 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:45:06am

re: #541 NJDhockeyfan

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Interesting. I seriously doubt they have the ability to put up any meaningful resistance. I doubt the police are going to fight for them. The Muslim Bros are fucked.

555 HAL2010  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:46:19am
556 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:49:11am

The MB have done more to harm their brand than anything Assad, Sadat, or Mubarak were ever able to achieve, and in less time and with less bloodshed either.

In the year since they rose to power, the Islamists in Cairo have found themselves on the precipice, and the military’s about ready to show them the door.

It still boils down to economics. The Egyptian economy is still in the doldrums, tourism hasn’t recovered from last year, and there’s no real improvement on the horizon.

Not that the secularists are likely to do any better - it’s just that they got sidelined by the Islamists in the elections and in getting the constitution approved.

557 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:49:42am

This makes sense:

558 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:50:02am

re: #556 lawhawk

The MB have done more to harm their brand than anything Assad, Sadat, or Mubarak were ever able to achieve, and in less time and with less bloodshed either.

In the year since they rose to power, the Islamists in Cairo have found themselves on the precipice, and the military’s about ready to show them the door.

It still boils down to economics. The Egyptian economy is still in the doldrums, tourism hasn’t recovered from last year, and there’s no real improvement on the horizon.

Not that the secularists are likely to do any better - it’s just that they got sidelined by the Islamists in the elections and in getting the constitution approved.

How is a tourist industry going to thrive with Islamists in power?

559 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:51:51am

re: #547 FemNaziBitch

Hubby and I started watching Mad Men (on NetFlix). After the first 3 episodes, I’m not sure I want to watch anymore.

The only thing I ever got out of Mad Men was a taste for Manhattans.

560 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:51:52am
561 efuseakay  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:52:05am

re: #545 HAL2010

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Everyone… in the room?

562 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:52:55am

re: #559 Lidane

Great. Now you’ve got me wanting a 2 hour liquid lunch. /

563 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:52:57am

re: #557 Lidane

Bachmann and DeMented are “ex-Gay”? /

564 efuseakay  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:53:06am

re: #541 NJDhockeyfan

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But Islamist coups are ay-ok!!!

565 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:54:32am

re: #556 lawhawk

The MB have done more to harm their brand than anything Assad, Sadat, or Mubarak were ever able to achieve, and in less time and with less bloodshed either.

In the year since they rose to power, the Islamists in Cairo have found themselves on the precipice, and the military’s about ready to show them the door.

It still boils down to economics. The Egyptian economy is still in the doldrums, tourism hasn’t recovered from last year, and there’s no real improvement on the horizon.

Not that the secularists are likely to do any better - it’s just that they got sidelined by the Islamists in the elections and in getting the constitution approved.

You’re right that the economy has been their doom and they’d be in trouble no matter what they did or didn’t do. However, they compounded their troubles by not dealing with terrorism which hurts the tourist industry. Even appointed a local mayor in Luxor who was a member of a terrorist group who had attacked tourists in the past. They didn’t share power like they promised. They pushed through an Islamists constitution after they promised not to. Sectarian and religious violence has increased as the Islamists felt empowered to start cleansing society. The Muslim Bros would have a difficult time regardless but they created a lot of their own troubles.

566 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:54:34am


Read it all, but here’s a few choice bits:

But even ignoring Madsen’s background, Doward’s story is a marvel of awful journalism. While the Observer headline screamed that it had “revealed” a troubling partnership between the United States and Europe in data sharing, Doward offhandedly mentions that Madsen was basing his claims on “declassified documents”—which, oddly, weren’t posted with the story and are available on the NSA’s website. And overlooked by those piling on The Observer was the rather significant fact that the paper appears not to have spoken to Madsen, instead mining quotes from an interview he gave to a blog called PrivacySurgeon.org. (Indeed, some of Doward’s language is very similar to the source material, but why kick a man when he’s down?)

Providing a patina of respectability to a disreputable source, Doward informs Observer readers that Madsen previously held “several sensitive positions within” the NSA over a 12-year period. The only supporting evidence for the claim is Madsen himself, though his claims of previous NSA employment have shifted over the years. In a 2011 Guardian article endorsing 9/11 conspiracy theories, Madsen was cited as a former “NSA operative.”

Desperate to get in on the NSA scoop game, Salon cannibalized the Madsen story, receiving a coveted Drudge Report link for its troubles. One can only assume that influenced Salon’s decision not to pull the story, instead issuing a vague “update” saying that The Observer had pulled the story “pending an investigation.” The author of Salon’s piece, Prachi Gupta, didn’t respond to an email inquiry. From there, the Madsen story spidered out to Die Welt, the Sacramento Bee, Corriere Della Sera, and countless others.

Like the unstoppable proliferation of junk science, the laundered conspiracy theory is a stubborn thing. In 2002, after Madsen had declared 9/11 an “inside job,” The Guardian cited him and his “sources” when it reported that the United States Navy assisted a short-lived coup that toppled Venezuelan autocrat Hugo Chávez. No supporting evidence exists for the claim—like the NSA story, it sounds plausible—but it has wormed its way into various academic books and is prominently cited in a Wikipedia entry detailing “covert United States foreign regime change actions.” A quote from Madsen would be quickly flagged; a report from The Guardian lies dormant.

567 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:55:38am

Ohio Joins The War on Women, Redefines Pregnancy

Kasich’s budget, as the Toledo Blade reports, prohibits publicly funded hospitals from entering into so-called emergency care transfer agreements with nearly abortion clinics. Clinics need such agreements to care for patients with complications, and of the 12 clinics that provide abortions in Ohio, many may be forced to shut down as a result.

Another provision in Kasich’s budget requires that doctors who provide abortions perform a fetal ultrasound and require the mother to listen to or see the heartbeat. Doctors who fail to do so could be prosecuted. The budget redefines a fetus as “developing from the moment of conception” rather than when a fertilized egg implants in the uterus. (Most fertilized eggs leave the body before implanting, meaning many women who were not actually pregnant would now be considered to be have been carrying a “fetus” in Ohio.)

Oy.

568 HAL2010  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:56:06am
569 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:56:19am

re: #559 Lidane

The only thing I ever got out of Mad Men was a taste for Manhattans.

Some blog, I think it was Gawker, compared the amount of alcohol consumed, drink for drink, by the characters on Mad Men and Game of Thrones. Mad Men is much drunker than GOT. However GOT beats MM at beheadings, stabbings, disembowelings, maimings and overall bloodshed.

570 stabby  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:57:15am

re: #436 GunstarGreen

I was reading Michael Totten’s take on some of this, he points out that the only way Assad can make his side fanatical enough to fight and save his butt is to do everything he can to make sure that this is a sectarian battle, an existential battle where everyone is likely to get massacred if he falls.

So he does his best to drag the the conflict down into the mud and foment hatred…

Of course that doesn’t excuse Al Qaeda and other Sunnis who are happy to play the same game.

I just want to point out that the Assad side isn’t better on this, and they may objectively be worse.

571 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:59:13am
572 Iwouldprefernotto  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:59:16am

re: #567 The Ghost of a Flea

Ohio Joins The War on Women, Redefines Pregnancy

Oy.

How much money is Ohio going to spend defending this crap in the courts? Money they say they don’t have, funds they could spend on—I don’t know— healthcare.

573 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:59:18am

Transit area is that bad!

574 GunstarGreen  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:59:43am

re: #570 stabby

I was reading Michael Totten’s take on some of this, he points out that the only way Assad can make his side fanatical enough to fight and save his butt is to do everything he can to make sure that this is a sectarian battle, an existential battle where everyone is likely to get massacred if he falls.

So he does his best to drag the the conflict down into the mud and foment hatred…

Of course that doesn’t excuse Al Qaeda and other Sunnis who are happy to play the same game.

I just want to point out that the Assad side isn’t better on this, and they may objectively be worse.

When given the choice to support one group of murderous barbarians or another group of murderous barbarians, I prefer to choose not to support murderous barbarians.

575 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:59:59am

Snowden is such a pussy, he thinks they will let him join Pussy Riot.

576 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:00:15am

re: #547 FemNaziBitch

I lived it. Don’t want to watch the TV version.

578 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:01:15am

re: #573 Vicious Babushka

Transit area is that bad!

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579 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:02:04am

re: #576 Justanotherhuman

I lived it. Don’t want to watch the TV version.

I only know what I read abou tit in the media, the 60’s certainly does have a stylish charm, but my memories were of a brilliant surface and a lot of ugliness underneath

580 HAL2010  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:02:08am
581 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:02:16am

HAPPY CANADA DAY!!

to my fellow Canucks.

582 Joanne  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:02:29am

re: #461 FemNaziBitch

Weekend Food Pr0n.

What is it?

An orange or grapefruit with a light underneath it?

583 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:02:51am

The Terminal II: Transit Gulag

584 Joanne  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:02:58am

re: #466 FemNaziBitch

Satt got it on the first try.

Shoot…late to the game. :-(

585 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:03:01am
586 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:03:06am
587 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:03:40am

re: #586 Lidane

Dearborn, MI?

588 stabby  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:03:47am

re: #574 GunstarGreen

There is so much sectarian conflict in the area that isn’t going away that I think the only hope for quiet is to repartition Syria and even Lebanon.

589 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:03:54am
590 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:03:54am

re: #567 The Ghost of a Flea

Another provision in Kasich’s budget requires that doctors who provide abortions perform a fetal ultrasound and require the mother to listen to or see the heartbeat.

Freedom. Liberty. Don’t Tread On Me. //

591 HAL2010  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:04:00am
592 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:04:54am

re: #586 Lidane

Georgia newspaper columnist call on U.S. to send Muslims “back to their native land”

This is no outlier, this is mainstream thinking he is representing

593 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:05:03am

OMG! OMG! OMG! IT’S DAWKINS I DON’T BELIEVE ANYTHING THAT ATHEIST SAYS!!11TY

594 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:06:17am

re: #586 Lidane

Guess the American Colonization Society is getting a reboot. //

595 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:06:42am

re: #587 Vicious Babushka

Dearborn, MI?

CuriousLurker will have to go back to Texas.

596 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:06:51am

re: #591 HAL2010

Ruling but not governing. Gee, kinda sounds like the GOP, which is engaging in an obstructionist tactic to thwart even the most basic of government functions, and ignoring the economy in favor of going with government so small that it fits deeply into lady bits.

597 CuriousLurker  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:07:31am

re: #586 Lidane


Shit, does this mean I’m gonna have to move back to Texas?

598 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:08:43am

re: #597 CuriousLurker

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Shit, does this mean I’m gonna have to move back to Texas?

Fuck, I’m so sorry.

599 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:08:47am

re: #581 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

HAPPY CANADA DAY!!

to my fellow Canucks.

And to you.

600 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:08:58am

re: #553 Sol Berdinowitz

I grew up in the era they are depicting in the series, do not find it at all nostalgic or worthy of revisiting.

Still, it seems the young viewers need to see it.

601 calochortus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:09:14am

re: #597 CuriousLurker

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Shit, does this mean I’m gonna have to move back to Texas?

You need to be punished for your faith, so, yes you do.

602 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:09:18am

re: #597 CuriousLurker

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Shit, does this mean I’m gonna have to move back to Texas?

49 seconds!

603 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:09:41am

re: #563 Bulworth

Bachmann and DeMented are “ex-Gay”? /

Michelle’s husband claims he is.

///:0

604 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:10:12am

re: #581 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

HAPPY CANADA DAY!!

to my fellow Canucks.

To my son and all my flappy-headed little Canuckian grandkids. :)

605 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:11:02am

Fox News host on immigration reform: ‘Baloney,’ just focus on white people

Fox News analyst Brit Hume said Monday that the Republican Party’s tepid embrace of immigration reform is part of a “baloney” political strategy to curry favor with Latinos, who Hume said are unimportant to future presidential elections, hence his conclusion that Republicans should just keep the party’s focus on white people instead.

Hume’s comments came in response to House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), who suggested recently that America’s quickly changing demographics will pose a real challenge to Republicans in future presidential elections.

“Look, I’ve read all kinds of analysis of this… I am absolteuly convinced that this troupe that you’re hearing, that says if the Republicans don’t go for immigration reform much as the Senate has done, they’re never gonna win another presidential election,” Hume said. “Oh, baloney.”

“If you look at the statistics, you’ll find that there was one significant bloc of voters that turned out in smaller numbers this time in a major, major way, way below expectations, below even their ‘08 turnout, and that was white voters,” he added. “Now, that doesn’t mean if they turned out Romney would have gotten them all. But it shows you that this Hispanic vote — which I think now is about 8.5 percent of the U.S. electorate or something like that — is not nearly as important, still, as the white vote, which is above 70 percent.”

606 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:11:40am

re: #572 Iwouldprefernotto

How much money is Ohio going to spend defending this crap in the courts? Money they say they don’t have, funds they could spend on—I don’t know— healthcare.

Paying for the babies already born?

607 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:13:00am

re: #597 CuriousLurker

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Shit, does this mean I’m gonna have to move back to Texas?

DON’T GO!!!!!!!

608 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:13:08am

re: #597 CuriousLurker

Shit, does this mean I’m gonna have to move back to Texas?

Only if Wendy Davis becomes governor.

609 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:13:23am

re: #605 Kragar

Fox News host on immigration reform: ‘Baloney,’ just focus on white people

It’s not baloney, it’s chorizo.

But it shows you that this Hispanic vote — which I think now is about 8.5 percent of the U.S. electorate or something like that — is not nearly as important, still, as the white vote, which is above 70 percent.”

Don’t forget, 50% of that 70% are women. They tend to vote like Hispanics.

610 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:13:39am

WHAT?

611 calochortus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:14:32am

re: #610 FemNaziBitch

WHAT?

Context might be useful here.

612 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:14:37am

re: #609 wrenchwench

It’s not baloney, it’s chorizo.

Don’t forget, 50% of that 70% are women. They tend to vote like Hispanics.

Majority of college grads are women too!

(Ah, but the men still have their gunz.)

Somehow, that doesn’t frighten me.

613 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:14:40am
614 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:14:41am

re: #610 FemNaziBitch

WHAT?

COMMIE RINO!!11!!

615 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:14:45am

Egyptian Military: Morsi Has 48 Hours To Reach Agreement With Protesters Before We Intervene

Egypt’s military has issued a 48-hour ultimatum to the Islamist president and his opponents to reach an agreement or it will intervene to put forward a political road map for the country and ensure it is carried out.

The statement Monday described as “glorious” the mass protests on Sunday that brought out millions of Egyptians calling for President Mohammed Morsi’s ouster.


Egyptians Celebrate Military’s Intervention (Photos)

616 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:14:55am

re: #611 calochortus

Context might be useful here.

which context?

617 Interesting Times  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:15:26am

re: #589 Gus


Creeping sharia!!1! #ohwait

618 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:15:30am

re: #613 Lidane

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Terrorists!
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619 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:16:56am

Rep. Steve Stockman retweeted:

DERP

620 Dr. Matt  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:17:34am

It appears Trayvon has three arms because two were being employed to beat up Killerman and the third was going for his pistol.

621 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:17:39am

Rep. Steve Stockman retweeted:

622 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:17:52am

re: #619 Vicious Babushka

Rep. Steve Stockman retweeted:

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DERP

Really, then why aren’t abortions allowed to be performed in hospitals?

623 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:18:11am

re: #613 Lidane

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Tahrir, Texas.

624 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:18:28am
625 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:18:31am

re: #622 FemNaziBitch

Really, then why aren’t abortions allowed to be performed in hospitals?

BECAUSE CATHOLIC FREEDOM OF RELIGION!!11!!

626 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:18:41am

re: #621 Vicious Babushka

Rep. Steve Stockman retweeted:

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I thought Texas was all about zero regulations, or does that only apply to zoning laws and fertilizer plants?

627 Interesting Times  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:19:02am
628 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:19:21am

re: #626 Kragar

I thought Texas was all about zero regulations, or does that only apply to zoning laws and fertilizer plants?

They want to protect fetuses but not women or workers.

629 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:19:44am

re: #605 Kragar

Fox News host on immigration reform: ‘Baloney,’ just focus on white people

This is an internal debate within the GOP: they are convinced that blacks and Latinos are too beholden to the party of free government stuff to be able to recognize and act in their own interests.

All I can say is, please proceed, gentlemen…

630 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:20:59am

It’s Lena Horne’s Birthday.

May our memory of her never die.

631 calochortus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:21:10am

re: #616 FemNaziBitch

It strikes me that quote could be used equally by pro choice and by those who don’t want the government mandating healthcare coverage. I suspect Eisenhower was talking about banning contraception being not the government’s business, but stripped of context it’s hard to say.

632 CuriousLurker  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:22:04am

Damn, boss calling—gotta run. Later, lizards.

633 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:22:23am

re: #631 calochortus

It strikes me that quote could be used equally by pro choice and by those who don’t want the government mandating healthcare coverage. I suspect Eisenhower was talking about banning contraception being not the government’s business, but stripped of context it’s hard to say.

hmmm… .I’ll have to think that thru.

634 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:22:36am

re: #621 Vicious Babushka

UNREGULATED!!!!!

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635 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:25:09am

re: #621 Vicious Babushka

BIOHAZARDS!!!!!!!!

/

636 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:25:27am
637 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:26:11am

re: #624 wrenchwench

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Is Sandmonkey still a member here?

638 Interesting Times  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:26:26am

You mean they win the battle, but lose the war? Works for me! The GOP deserves to be history:

639 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:26:29am

Republicans Propose Constitutional Amendment To Mandate Marriage Discrimination

Making good on his threats, Rep. Tim Huelskamp (R-KS) filed a proposed constitutional amendment Friday to ban same-sex unions. Thus far, 28 of his colleagues — all Republicans — have signed on as cosponsors.

Huelskamp, who sponsors the Kansas marriage inequality amendment in while serving in the state’s senate, ironically fashions himself as a defender of liberty and religious freedom. But his so-called “Marriage Protection Amendment” would strip same-sex families of their federal rights, override state definitions of marriage, and prevent state court from protecting the equal rights of same-sex couples even when their state constitutions mandate so doing.

640 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:27:34am

re: #631 calochortus

It strikes me that quote could be used equally by pro choice and by those who don’t want the government mandating healthcare coverage. I suspect Eisenhower was talking about banning contraception being not the government’s business, but stripped of context it’s hard to say.

The government does not force anyone to use birth control, it just makes it part of mandated coverage.

641 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:28:20am

re: #637 NJDhockeyfan

Is Sandmonkey still a member here?

I didn’t know he ever was.

642 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:28:29am

re: #638 Interesting Times

You mean they win the battle, but lose the war? Works for me! The GOP deserves to be a footnote in history:

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The GOP has become a coalition of feudal lords.

644 Dr. Matt  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:29:26am
645 Interesting Times  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:29:27am
646 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:30:17am

QUESTION OF THE DAY:

Why did Student Loan rates increase when GOP and Dems both say they didn’t want it?

647 calochortus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:31:35am

re: #640 Sol Berdinowitz

The government does not force anyone to use birth control, it just makes it part of mandated coverage.

Right. But if the government has no involvement with birth control policy, one could say they shouldn’t mandate its availability either. You know, to all those for-profit corporations that, being people, have religious convictions.
I don’t agree, but I merely point out the fact that short quotes can often be used by either side in a debate.

648 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:32:15am
649 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:33:02am

re: #646 Vicious Babushka

QUESTION OF THE DAY:

Why did Student Loan rates increase when GOP and Dems both say they didn’t want it?

Because freedom and fiscal responsibility.

////

650 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:33:27am

re: #641 wrenchwench

I didn’t know he ever was.

I could have swore he was. Maybe not.

651 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:33:55am

re: #646 Vicious Babushka

Because congressing is hard werk. //

Also too: their kids don’t get loans.

652 piratedan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:34:02am

re: #646 Vicious Babushka

QUESTION OF THE DAY:

Why did Student Loan rates increase when GOP and Dems both say they didn’t want it?

ummm, one of them was lying and you only get to guess once

653 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:34:48am

re: #646 Vicious Babushka

QUESTION OF THE DAY:

Why did Student Loan rates increase when GOP and Dems both say they didn’t want it?

The Dems wanted to lock in a lower rate, the GOP wanted to set the rates to rise over time. Then vacation started.

654 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:35:35am

re: #653 Kragar

The Dems wanted to lock in a lower rate, the GOP wanted to set the rates to rise over time. Then vacation started.

But the GOP are always complaining about TEH OBAMA VACAY

655 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:36:39am

DERP
Dems are really shitty at extermination and genocide of minorities

656 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:36:59am

That’s a huge crowd.

657 geoffm33  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:37:09am

re: #646 Vicious Babushka

QUESTION OF THE DAY:

Why did Student Loan rates increase when GOP and Dems both say they didn’t want it?

Infighting, obviously //

658 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:39:32am

re: #657 geoffm33

Infighting, obviously //

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Yeah, if they simply agreed to the GOP version, they would have increased more over a period of time which no one would notice right away.

659 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:39:34am

re: #646 Vicious Babushka

QUESTION OF THE DAY:

Why did Student Loan rates increase when GOP and Dems both say they didn’t want it?

Another vote to repeal ACA was more important.

660 piratedan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:39:44am

re: #657 geoffm33

Infighting, obviously //

hey, which party has the majority in the House…..just sayin’.

661 Interesting Times  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:40:12am
662 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:41:12am

re: #649 Lidane

Because freedom and fiscal responsibility.

////

No free lunches, no free education

663 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:41:43am

re: #642 Kragar

The GOP has become a coalition of feudal lords.

You mean, the 1% for whom the current economic system is working?

664 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:42:04am

Rick Perry: Stop ‘horrors’ like Kermit Gosnell

As Texas lawmakers return to the state capitol for a special session Monday, Texas Gov. Rick Perry is pointing to the Philadelphia abortion clinic run by Kermit Gosnell as evidence of why his state needs tough new abortion legislation.

“We saw this Gosnell clinic in Philadelphia and the horrors that went on there, sticking the scissors in the backs, baby’s backs to end their lives. We saw that same type of action in a clinic in Houston Texas,” Perry said Monday on Bill Bennett’s “Morning in America” radio show, saying those examples would spur action.

Oh, you’re going to see some action, Ricky. And from people who will actually do a lot more to stop another Gosnell than you and your bible brigade ever would.

665 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:43:05am

re: #664 Kragar

Rick Perry: Stop ‘horrors’ like Kermit Gosnell

Oh, you’re going to see some action, Ricky. And from people who will actually do a lot more to stop another Gosnell than you and your bible brigade ever would.

Then allow abortions to be performed in hospitals. Fund regional hospitals.

666 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:43:16am

re: #632 CuriousLurker

Damn, boss calling—gotta run. Later, lizards.

He’s offering you the new Dallas office.

667 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:43:52am

re: #655 Vicious Babushka

Stockman: Democrats: Government advocacy for abortions saves money by exterminating the poor and minorities

The Republicans can be relied upon to make more poor.

668 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:44:18am

re: #665 FemNaziBitch

Then allow abortions to be performed in hospitals. Fund regional hospitals.

Expand access to Birth Control and teach comprehensive Sex Ed.

669 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:44:46am

re: #643 NJDhockeyfan

Oops!

JFK Airport security supervisor axed after accidentally sending XXX photo of his genitals in mass email blast

Just bucking for vice-mayor.

670 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:46:04am

WTF this is worse than your average Derp.
(not embedding, click at your own risk)

671 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:46:04am

re: #668 Kragar

Expand access to Birth Control and teach comprehensive Sex Ed.

Oh, that is way to simple.

672 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:46:59am
673 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:47:47am

re: #655 Vicious Babushka

DERP
Dems are really shitty at extermination and genocide of minorities

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WTF?

Does anyone one of the MEN involved in this pay attention to the BIG CONCEPT of individual choice?

Or does the idea of a women making an individual choice just somehow not compute in their brains. Do their visual cortexes just see a big blank area in the text?

674 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:48:02am

re: #672 jaunte

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Another State I will not move to.

675 calochortus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:48:45am

re: #670 Vicious Babushka

WTF this is worse than your average Derp.
(not embedding, click at your own risk)

Because shooting up something is on the same level of harm as an insult? WTF indeed.

676 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:48:52am

I don’t think this is going to last up to 48 hours.

677 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:49:09am

Gay Marriage Means America Is ‘Doomed to Extinction’

World Congress of Families spokesman Don Feder claims that the Supreme Court’s decision striking down the Defense of Marriage Act will legalize polygamy, incest, pedophilia and bestiality, and will ultimately mean that society is “doomed to extinction.” In fact, Feder writes in a column today, “Members of the North American Man-Boy Love Association celebrated [the ruling] by forming a chorus line in trench coats, waving candy bars.”

Feder calls the push for marriage equality “marriage mutilation” and asserts that gays and lesbians are a “breeding ground for all sexually transmitted diseases,” warning that their “death-style” only produces “disease and chaos.”

678 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:49:23am

re: #668 Kragar

And cause all the teenagers and young people and unmarried people to have unsanctioned sexytime??!!

679 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:49:37am

re: #673 FemNaziBitch

WTF?

Does anyone one of the MEN involved in this pay attention to the BIG CONCEPT of individual choice?

Or does the idea of a women making an individual choice just somehow not compute in their brains. Do their visual cortexes just see a big blank area in the text?

Not to mention: Minority voters overwhelmingly Democrat, so why would Dems want to “exterminate” them? This is pure GOP projection.

680 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:50:23am

And it’s not even game day for the Longhorns:

681 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:50:28am

DERP

682 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:50:57am

re: #679 Vicious Babushka

Not to mention: Minority voters overwhelmingly Democrat, so why would Dems want to “exterminate” them? This is pure GOP projection.

Men don’t get pregnant.

But they know they stand a much better chance of getting laid when their partner knows she is not likely to get pregnanat.

The GOP are really shooting themselves in the foot over this one.

683 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:51:06am
684 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:51:45am

and the male birth control pill —where are we on that piece of pharmacological magic?

Have they done a cost study and decided the revenue stream just isn’t there?

685 piratedan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:51:54am

re: #681 Vicious Babushka

DERP

yeah, I was at that party, it was awesome, the DJ was sooooo cool!//

686 stabby  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:52:09am

re: #677 Kragar

We’re doooooooooooooooooooooomed!

“I’m gonna sing the doom song” - GIR

687 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:52:23am

“One of the many thesis.”

I had no idea there were so many thesis in his shitty film. Whole lotta thesis going on.

688 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:52:49am

re: #677 Kragar

Feder calls the push for marriage equality “marriage mutilation” and asserts that gays and lesbians are a “breeding ground for all sexually transmitted diseases,” warning that their “death-style” only produces “disease and chaos.”

Then maybe expanding the rights of marriage to them will lead to greater monogamy and less exposure to STDs.

Also too: heterosex people don’t get STDs. //

689 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:53:37am

re: #687 Charles Johnson

100%!!!!!!!!!

PROVES!!!!!!!!!!

//

690 kirkspencer  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:54:04am

re: #610 FemNaziBitch

WHAT?

Here’s the press conference from which it comes: link

And the question and response that includes the quote:

Q. Charles W. Roberts, Newsweek: Sir, last July the committee studying foreign aid under General Draper made a recommendation to you that the United States should assist those countries with which it is cooperating in economic aid programs, on request, in the formulation of their plans designed to deal with problems of rapid population growth. This was generally interpreted as a recommendation that this Government should distribute birth control information on request. I wondered what your reaction to that report was, sir.

THE PRESIDENT. I Cannot imagine anything more emphatically a subject that is not a proper political or governmental activity or function or responsibility.

This thing has for very great denominations a religious meaning, definite religious tenet in their own doctrine. I have no quarrel with them; as a matter of fact this being largely the Catholic Church, they are one of the groups that I admire and respect. But this has nothing to do with governmental contact with other governments. We do not intend to interfere with the internal affairs of any other government, and if they want to do something about what is admittedly a very difficult question, almost an explosive question, that is their business. If they want to go to someone for help, they will go unquestionably to professional groups, not to governments. This Government has no, and will not as long as I am here have a positive political doctrine in its program that has to do with this problem of birth control. That’s not our business.

691 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:54:06am

Texas Capital shut off wi-fi?

Is that like Iran shutting down the internet?

692 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:54:10am

re: #686 stabby

We’re doooooooooooooooooooooomed!

“I’m gonna sing the doom song” - GIR

You didn’t get the +1, Gir did.
/

693 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:54:26am

re: #677 Kragar

Gay Marriage Means America Is ‘Doomed to Extinction’

This reinforced my notion that Chistianity was founded and spread by a lot of repressed, conflicted, self-loathing homosexuals who project their self-hatred onto everyone who embraces the lifestyle they cannot bring themselves to accept themselves.

694 stabby  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:54:27am

re: #682 Sol Berdinowitz

They’re a bunch of angry chimps who get their hate on thinking about OTHER people having sex a lot more often than they think about having sex themselves.

695 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:54:35am

Sign at the Texas Capitol:

3 things
that confuse Texas Republicans
Science
Women
Clocks

rightnow.io

696 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:55:22am

re: #646 Vicious Babushka

QUESTION OF THE DAY:

Why did Student Loan rates increase when GOP and Dems both say they didn’t want it?

Because of how they want to address the issue (permanent versus temporary, how letting the rates jump actually brings in $$$ in federal revenues, and that there are at least three different plans floating around, none of which have gotten support from the other side).

Everything you need to know about the rate hike.

Image: student_loan_proposal_comparison_table1-761x800.png

697 calochortus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:55:33am

re: #690 kirkspencer

Thanks for doing the research.

698 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:55:51am

re: #691 FemNaziBitch

Texas Capital shut off wi-fi?

Is that like Iran shutting down the internet?

Youtube Video

699 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:56:06am

re: #680 Lidane

MOB rule!!!!!

700 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:56:14am

re: #681 Vicious Babushka

DERP

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To Ben Shapiro, she represents a bunch of abortions. To women, Wendy Davis represents freedom, courage, and accomplishment.

701 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:57:12am

This is the very ugly side of those protests in Egypt. The same thing happened the last time there were massive protests there.

702 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:57:22am

Dewhurst, Perry, ready to bust heads.

Hundreds of abortion-rights groups gathered on the Capitol’s front steps hours before a rally was scheduled to begin, while horse-mounted state troopers and police from as far away as Houston watched. More than 100 state police, many carrying helmets and truncheons, staged inside the Capitol building and newly erected crowd control barriers funneled visitors away from the entrances to the House and Senate chambers.
dallasnews.com

703 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:57:25am

re: #700 wrenchwench

To Ben Shapiro, she represents a bunch of abortions. To women, Wendy Davis represents freedom, courage, and accomplishment.

The wingnuts think that teh wimmenz just lurvz ‘em a bunch of aborshunz.

To quote Rachel Jeantel, that’s real retarded.

704 calochortus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:57:25am

re: #700 wrenchwench

To Ben Shapiro, she represents a bunch of abortions. To women, Wendy Davis represents freedom, courage, and accomplishment.

But we ladies so often get things wrong because our limited brains are too busy thinking about nail polish or something.
/

705 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:58:39am

Tell me again how many kids Ben Shapiro has adopted?

706 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:59:08am

re: #657 geoffm33

707 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:59:18am

re: #702 jaunte

Perry and the dEw guy scared of womenz.

708 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:59:33am

re: #702 jaunte

Dewhurst, Perry, ready to bust heads.

Hundreds of abortion-rights groups gathered on the Capitol’s front steps hours before a rally was scheduled to begin, while horse-mounted state troopers and police from as far away as Houston watched. More than 100 state police, many carrying helmets and truncheons, staged inside the Capitol building and newly erected crowd control barriers funneled visitors away from the entrances to the House and Senate chambers.
dallasnews.com

Great optics, Texas, now go for the dogs and firehoses or STFU.

709 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:00:00am

re: #705 Vicious Babushka

Tell me again how many kids Ben Shapiro has adopted?

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Myth: pro-life people want to control women’s bodies. Truth: we want to save the kids you would prefer to kill.

As soon as you can do that without controlling women’s bodies, have at it, punk.

710 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:00:05am

re: #707 Bulworth

“Obama-style womanmob.”

711 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:00:06am

re: #706 lawhawk

Senate GOP and House GOP have completely different versions of own bill =
#Iinfighting

Feature, not a bug, etc.

712 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:00:08am

re: #703 Vicious Babushka

The wingnuts think that teh wimmenz just lurvz ‘em a bunch of aborshunz.

To quote Rachel Jeantel, that’s real retarded.

I really don’t know any women who wake up in the morning and say “Gee, I really want to go and get an abortion today. It would be so fun!”

I believe in abortions as a last resort, and the only moral way to reduce their number is to allow women more options and education about birth control, not less.

713 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:00:17am

re: #697 calochortus

Thanks for doing the research.

I still see it as a reminder that it is not government’s role to limit individual reproductive choice.

what am I missing?

714 kirkspencer  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:00:36am

re: #708 Decatur Deb

Great optics, Texas, now go for the dogs and firehoses or STFU.

Wouldn’t be surprised to see the scene juxtaposed with the one in Egypt.

715 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:01:21am

re: #705 Vicious Babushka

TROOF!! //

716 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:01:47am

re: #705 Vicious Babushka

Tell me again how many kids Ben Shapiro has adopted?

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And by save, we mean force single women and the poor to raise kids they will struggle to support while we cut every social program they could use because they’re nothing but lazy moochers.

717 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:01:51am

This is incredible.

718 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:02:04am

re: #712 Kragar

I really don’t know any women who wake up in the morning and say “Gee, I really want to go and get an abortion today. It would be so fun!”

I believe in abortions as a last resort, and the only moral way to reduce their number is to allow women more options and education about birth control, not less.

I’m beginning to think Freud was right. People have issues with their parents. These Men seem to resent the control their mother had over them when they are young and are determined to get back at her by controlling every woman they can.

719 geoffm33  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:02:31am

re: #687 Charles Johnson

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“One of the many thesis.”

I had no idea there were so many thesis in his shitty film. Whole lotta thesis going on.

That made me think of the movie PCU when he ran through the computer lab and cut the power, losing everyone’s thesis. Which made me think of another scene from the movie which is appropriate in a response to any breitbrat.

Youtube Video

720 GunstarGreen  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:03:39am

re: #716 Kragar

And by save, we mean force single women and the poor to raise kids they will struggle to support while we cut every social program they could use because they’re nothing but lazy moochers.

Texas is all about saving the sacred lives of humans.

Which is why they’ve executed more people than any other state.

Hurry up and birth ‘em so we can put ‘em in the chair!

721 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:03:56am
722 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:04:38am

re: #719 geoffm33

That made me think of the movie PCU when he ran through the computer lab and cut the power, losing everyone’s thesis. Which made me think of another scene from the movie which is appropriate in a response to any breitbrat.

[Embedded content]

So many great moments in that movie.

“You mean.. if we’re nice to them, they bring us stuff?”

723 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:04:51am

re: #721 Gus

Twitter suppression. Interesting.

724 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:05:24am

re: #721 Gus

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Nope, no third world dirty tricks going on in Texas. Not at all.
/

725 piratedan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:05:26am

re: #721 Gus

in other words… Democracy in Action and govertment transparency brought to you by, Texas Republicans!

726 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:05:39am

re: #723 jaunte

Twitter suppression. Interesting.

Can’t be all bad.

727 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:05:41am

Some links to Texas livestreams

728 GunstarGreen  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:06:37am

re: #723 jaunte

Twitter suppression. Interesting.

I like how you use the word ‘interesting’ as a euphemism for ‘despotic’.

The Texas GOP are behaving like cartoon supervillains. Any minute now they’ll march down the steps of the capitol and merge, like a gelatinous mass, into a 20-foot-tall image of Skeletor, complete with cackle.

729 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:06:46am

re: #726 Decatur Deb

Somebody’s trying for a “quiet room.”

730 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:07:04am

Men’s Right’s Activists …

731 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:07:10am

Texas women should start taking the GOP birth control plan to heart.

Abstinence only.

732 geoffm33  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:07:13am

re: #722 Kragar

So many great moments in that movie.

“You mean.. if we’re nice to them, they bring us stuff?”

I may need to watch that tonight. Such a great and underrated movie.

733 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:07:13am

Guest Column: “Ruly Mob” Was Prompted by Civic Duty

“We were not an unruly mob in the gallery despite what Dewhurst and Perry have said. We were doing our jobs as citizens.”

734 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:07:34am

What is this… I don’t even…

735 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:07:37am

re: #702 jaunte

Dewhurst, Perry, ready to bust heads.

736 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:07:39am

Time for Perry to ride up in his Neidermeyer costume.

Image: t1larg.rick-perry-texas-2shot.t1larg.jpg

737 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:08:34am
738 geoffm33  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:08:42am

re: #734 Vicious Babushka

What is this… I don’t even…

[Embedded content]

Huh?!?

739 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:08:45am

re: #734 Vicious Babushka

Maybe she means China….

740 Weet  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:09:10am

The Nation is carrying the Texas pro-choice rally live.

Texas Pro-Choice Rally

741 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:09:14am

re: #737 Gus

[Embedded content]

Texas Air National Guard cleared to go hot.

742 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:09:20am

re: #734 Vicious Babushka

What is this… I don’t even…

[Embedded content]

She’s talking about the RWNJ meme that more girls get aborted than boys do.

743 geoffm33  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:09:32am

re: #736 Decatur Deb

Time for Perry to ride up in his Neidermeyer costume.

Image: t1larg.rick-perry-texas-2shot.t1larg.jpg

Hell, I’m already on youtube searching movie quotes, may as well:

Youtube Video

744 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:09:39am

re: #735 Lidane

Can’t believe they had to import police from that far away.

745 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:09:53am

re: #734 Vicious Babushka

We haz studee that PROOFS womenz aborting gurl babies!!!

746 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:10:02am

re: #742 Kragar

She’s talking about the RWNJ meme that more girls get aborted than boys do.

But boys never need to get abortion, I mean, they don’t get pregnant!

747 calochortus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:10:13am

re: #713 FemNaziBitch

I still see it as a reminder that it is not government’s role to limit individual reproductive choice.

what am I missing?

It looks to me as if he said encouraging other countries to provide birth control or aiding them in doing so is none of our business, even if overpopulation is a problem.

If I’m wrong here, by all means correct me.

748 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:10:31am

re: #743 geoffm33

Hell, I’m already on youtube searching movie quotes, may as well:

[Embedded content]

Fuck, we could do with more Bluto’s in Congress.

749 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:10:48am

re: #734 Vicious Babushka

CONTRIVED!!!!!!!

LAUGHABLE!!!!!!!!

//

750 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:11:10am
751 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:11:16am

Many police.

752 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:11:33am

re: #746 Vicious Babushka

But boys never need to get abortion, I mean, they don’t get pregnant!

You’re talking about a woman who thinks soldiers pissing on dead bodies is awesome. I gave up on Dana ever making sense.

753 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:11:51am

re: #751 jaunte

Teh womans are very dangerus. //

754 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:12:15am

re: #752 Kragar

You’re talking about a woman who thinks soldiers pissing on dead bodies is awesome. I gave up on Dana ever making sense.

She wants to be Sarah Palin when she grows up.

755 danarchy  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:12:16am

re: #723 jaunte

Twitter suppression. Interesting.

Not that I would put it past them, but s it possible their public wifi is just overwhemed. Even pretty beefy APs can only handle 250-300 concurrent connections. I have no idea what the infrastructure there is like, but maybe it just can’t handle the volume?

756 Stanghazi  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:12:16am

re: #744 jaunte

Can’t believe they had to import police from that far away.

OVERTIME!!!

757 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:12:35am

re: #747 calochortus

It looks to me as if he said encouraging other countries to provide birth control or aiding them in doing so is none of our business, even if overpopulation is a problem.

If I’m wrong here, by all means correct me.

I’m getting to much intereference from the non-internet facets of my day right now to get into this more.

I’ll have to ponder it in the quiet of the night and take-it up again tomorrow.

be patient

758 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:12:40am

I wouldn’t be surprised if someone tries attacking Davis some time soon.

759 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:12:58am

re: #751 jaunte

Are the protesters armed with all the gunz Texas will let them carry?

/not sure if

760 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:13:00am

bbl

761 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:13:21am

re: #756 Stanghazi

OVERTIME!!!

THEIR IS NO YOONYUNZ IN TEXIS!!11!!!!

762 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:13:26am
763 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:13:38am

re: #759 Bulworth

Are the protesters armed with all the gunz Texas will let them carry?

/not sure if

Now that would be interesting, wouldn’t it?

Women carrying guns to protest infringements on their rights—in TEXAS.

764 Interesting Times  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:13:40am

re: #758 Kragar

I wouldn’t be surprised if someone tries attacking Davis some time soon.

Her office was firebombed last year. How very “pro-life” ///

765 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:13:46am

re: #754 Vicious Babushka

She wants to be Sarah Palin when she grows up.

So she’ll quit her job, cost the GOP a national election, then have a failed show on cable before she hits the convention speakers circuit?

766 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:14:17am

re: #755 danarchy

Not that I would put it past them, but s it possible their public wifi is just overwhemed. Even pretty beefy APs can only handle 250-300 concurrent connections. I have no idea what the infrastructure there is like, but maybe it just can’t handle the volume?

So they shut it down in advance? How does that make sense?

767 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:14:51am
768 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:15:12am

re: #755 danarchy

Being from Texas, I just assume whoever had the power to shut it down is exercising that power for a political reason.

769 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:15:21am

re: #734 Vicious Babushka

Translating the DERP:

She’s basically saying that females are aborted in greater numbers than males, and therefore the women’s rights argument is misplaced since women are disproportionately affected by abortion - reducing the numbers of live-born women.

Except I don’t think that’s true in the US and various rules and laws prohibit aborting specifically because of gender. There appears to be no preferences in abortions in the US, and I’m thinking she simply tried to extrapolate from other countries where there is a strong cultural preference to having boys than girls.

770 Sionainn  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:17:34am

re: #684 FemNaziBitch

and the male birth control pill —where are we on that piece of pharmacological magic?

Have they done a cost study and decided the revenue stream just isn’t there?

I personally wouldn’t trust a man to take it correctly. It would be great to have the guy also on birth control, but I would make damn sure I was on birth control, too.

771 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:17:47am
772 calochortus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:17:54am

re: #757 FemNaziBitch

I’m not as busy as you-since I’m sitting here with a sprained ankle (it seems to be improving, though) and it’s hardly a life or death question. What I saw in the quote was:

(Question from reporter) …This was generally interpreted as a recommendation that this Government should distribute birth control information on request. I wondered what your reaction to that report was, sir.

THE PRESIDENT. I Cannot imagine anything more emphatically a subject that is not a proper political or governmental activity or function or responsibility.

So as I interpret it the government shouldn’t do anything to encourage contraception, and possibly not to discourage it, but that would kind of rule out making it mandatory for healthcare insurance.

773 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:18:07am

re: #762 Lidane

This bill really is no big deal and WHY DO YOU WANT TO KILL BABIEZZZ???!!!11!!!

774 kirkspencer  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:19:16am

re: #755 danarchy

Not that I would put it past them, but s it possible their public wifi is just overwhemed. Even pretty beefy APs can only handle 250-300 concurrent connections. I have no idea what the infrastructure there is like, but maybe it just can’t handle the volume?

It worked fine two weeks ago during wendy’s filibuster, and there were several thousand people hitting it then.

775 calochortus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:20:14am

re: #770 Sionainn

I personally wouldn’t trust a man to take it correctly. It would be great to have the guy also on birth control, but I would make damn sure I was on birth control, too.

I also recall from several decades ago that while you can reduce a man’s fertility it is way easier to stop one egg than millions of sperm. Medical science may have moved on since then.

776 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:20:35am

re: #771 lawhawk

The live video is fascinating to watch.

reuters.livestation.com

777 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:20:59am

re: #774 kirkspencer

Pretty sure someone’s trying to keep the cameras off.

778 geoffm33  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:21:01am

re: #774 kirkspencer

It worked fine two weeks ago during wendy’s filibuster, and there were several thousand people hitting it then.

They didn’t have enough warning to call in the Geek Squad to power down the router. This time they were prepared.

779 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:22:09am

re: #687 Charles Johnson

I think he meant the major “Feces” in his film.

780 abolitionist  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:11:31pm

re: #637 NJDhockeyfan

Is Sandmonkey still a member here?

re: #641 wrenchwench

I didn’t know he ever was.

Was a member many moons ago, but then banned, iirc.


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