The Glenn Greenwald-Fox News Convergence

A revealing convergence of agendas
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Coming up tomorrow on the most amazingly stupid right wing TV show that has ever existed:

I’m so happy to see Glenn Greenwald giving Fox News viewers more reasons to hate Barack Obama. It’s a revealing convergence of far left and far right agendas.

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824 comments
1 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:10:59pm

We have to privatize all of its functions to efficient, responsible corporate entities, and then corruption will no longer be an issue.

2 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:12:40pm

Ladies and gentlemen. We have attained a wingnut/moonbat convergence.

3 CriticalDragon1177  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:12:58pm

Charles Johnson,

I’m kind of tempted to watch, in part because I’m hoping the two of them will get into a fight of some kind.

4 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:13:57pm

re: #2 Gus

Bollingwaldgestalt!

5 engineer cat  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:16:54pm

the most amazingly stupid right wing TV show that has ever existed

unpossible

nothing is stupider than sean hannity

6 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:16:56pm

re: #4 jaunte

Bollingwaldgestalt!

It appears that Greenwald has now reached the liturgical dance segment of his performance.

7 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:18:15pm

re: #6 Gus

The way he spins, he’s giving the Dervishes a run for the money.

8 b.d.  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:20:11pm

I can’t believe that I still am capable of becoming dumbfounded.

9 AntonSirius  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:20:24pm

re: #5 engineer cat

the most amazingly stupid right wing TV show that has ever existed

unpossible

nothing is stupider than sean hannity

On the Fox stupidity index, Bolling >>> Hannity.

But Doocy >>> Bolling.

10 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:21:32pm

So will the FCC have to step in due to excessive DERP?

11 austin_blue  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:21:45pm

re: #7 lawhawk

The way he spins, he’s giving the Dervishes a run for the money.

And he’ll fail. Epically. Greenwald is SOOO toast.

12 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:22:27pm

re: #7 lawhawk

The way he spins, he’s giving the Dervishes a run for the money.

We hook him up the grid and he could run the Eastern sea board.

13 b.d.  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:22:50pm

re: #11 austin_blue

And he’ll fail. Epically. Greenwald is SOOO toast.

He won’t fail, this is Obamabashing T-ball.

14 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:23:05pm

One narcissistic faux journalist interviewing another narcissistic faux journalist?

Too much blowhard for my taste.

15 Iwouldprefernotto  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:23:06pm

re: #3 CriticalDragon1177

Charles Johnson,

I’m kind of tempted to watch, in part because I’m hoping the two of them will get into a fight of some kind.

They will not fight. They will be too busy bashing Obama, so a Republican can win the next election and the country can go back to spying on its citizens and Fox can go back to ignoring such behavior.

/Cynicism

16 bratwurst  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:23:59pm

There are ostensibly “news” shows on Fox News, and there are ostensibly “journalists” on Fox. Greenwald appearance is on a show that is barren of news OR journalists. The only and only reason for him to be doing this is self-aggrandizement.

17 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:25:09pm

re: #3 CriticalDragon1177

Charles Johnson,

I’m kind of tempted to watch, in part because I’m hoping the two of them will get into a fight of some kind.

There won’t be any fighting on this show. This is why Fox News exists.

18 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:30:03pm

Tucker Carlson Is The Stupidest Person On The Internet

“…Well, this is just terrible! Awful, isn’t it? Stir ‘em up, get out the impeachment gavel and let’s get a move on. After all, if The Nation is saying it, no one needs wingers to call for it, right?

Wrong. There’s a problem, and that snip of the article proves how incredibly misleading Tuckie and crew intended to be.”

19 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:30:15pm

re: #14 Justanotherhuman

One narcissistic faux journalist interviewing another narcissistic faux journalist?

Too much blowhard mutual blowjobs for my taste.

FIFY

20 engineer cat  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:30:30pm

re: #9 AntonSirius

On the Fox stupidity index, Bolling >>> Hannity.

But Doocy >>> Bolling.

where is lord kelvin when you need to find a measurement of absolute zero!

21 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:37:59pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

There won’t be any fighting on this show. This is why Fox News exists.

Drinking game: Obamacare. Calling it right now.

22 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:38:31pm

re: #21 thedopefishlives

Drinking game: Obamacare. Calling it right now.

no fair!!!!

23 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:39:14pm

“Hoods in the Hizzy” featuring Eric Bolling, FOX’s Premier Race-Baiter
Youtube Video

24 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:40:22pm
25 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:40:48pm
26 Joanne  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:41:45pm

re: #2 Gus

Ladies and gentlemen. We have attained a wingnut/moonbat convergence.

Wingbats? Moonnuts? I’m so confused.

27 b.d.  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:41:54pm

re: #21 thedopefishlives

Drinking game: Obamacare. Calling it right now.

I’ll go with the word unconstitutional but subvert was a very close 2nd choice.

28 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:42:10pm

re: #25 Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

Its real if somebody gets cut/shot.

29 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:42:11pm

re: #24 Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

Simple test.

Think of the N word.

Think of the C word.

Was the C word Cracker?

I didn’t fucking think so.

30 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:43:35pm

Fox Business Host Bolling: ‘Obama Chugging 40s’

31 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:43:36pm

re: #29 Kragar

Simple test.

Think of the N word.

Think of the C word.

Was the C word Cracker?

I didn’t fucking think so.

Heh…you used the ‘F’ word.

32 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:44:12pm

re: #29 Kragar

I so stole that.

33 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:45:13pm

re: #31 Decatur Deb

Heh…you used the ‘F’ word.

Because I’m not 6.

34 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:46:02pm

re: #27 b.d.

I’ll go with the word unconstitutional but subvert was a very close 2nd choice.

I think we can all agree that, as was pointed out upthread, “anti-Obama T-ball” is an apt metaphor for the upcoming program.

35 bratwurst  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:46:08pm

re: #24 Vicious Babushka

This was more than 35 years ago, but I still think it is the best answer to that question:

Youtube Video

36 Iwouldprefernotto  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:46:40pm

re: #24 Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

Cracker is worse because white people used to be slaves in Africa.

And MLK freed them from the Hitler.

37 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:47:10pm

re: #33 Kragar

Because I’m not 6.

The whole ‘X’ word meme is infantilizing.

38 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:48:18pm

WON’T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE 71% OF HOMELESS HETEROSEXUALS BEIN ALL PERSECUTED IN SAN FRANCISCO!!11

39 uncah91  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:49:27pm

In order for “cracker” to have any sort of real impact, it would need about 300 years of subjugation behind it.

40 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:50:00pm

re: #38 Vicious Babushka

WON’T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE 71% OF HOMELESS HETEROSEXUALS BEIN ALL PERSECUTED IN SAN FRANCISCO!!11

[Embedded content]

Sort of missing Bryan’s point there, unless it’s a call to his Christian duty to bind their wounds and satisfy their hunger and thirst.

41 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:50:06pm

re: #39 uncah91

In order for “cracker” to have any sort of real impact, it would need about 300 years of subjugation behind it.

So in other words, 300 years from now, since clearly minorities have taken over Amurika and are oppressing the poor fat white people.///

42 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:50:38pm
Fox and Friends host Eric Bolling, commenting on California Congresswoman Maxine Waters (D-Los Angeles): How’s this, Congresswoman? You saw what happened to Whitney Houston. Step away from the crack pipe. Step away from the Xanax. Step away from the Loraxipran [sic] because it’s going to get you in trouble.”
Youtube Video
43 AntonSirius  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:51:51pm

Someone should ask Glenn how he feels about Bolling calling for the FBI to wiretap mosques back in April…

44 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:52:08pm

re: #32 Vicious Babushka

I so stole that.

[Embedded content]

Standing ovation here to both you and Kragar!!!!

45 b.d.  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:53:16pm

Link

When you’ve lost The Huffington Post

Snowden Allegedly Releases Bizarre Statement

46 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:53:26pm

CONFIRMED. FACT. TRUTH. DERP.
(I missed the part where 100,000’s of Detroiters were nuked to death)

47 uncah91  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:54:16pm

re: #41 thedopefishlives

So in other words, 300 years from now, since clearly minorities have taken over Amurika and are oppressing the poor fat white people.///

300 years from next Tuesday, when the first FEMA camps open. ///

48 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:54:19pm

Also too: Detroit looks pretty at night from the air.

49 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:54:55pm

re: #39 uncah91

In order for “cracker” to have any sort of real impact, it would need about 300 years of subjugation behind it.

or some really great toppers or dip…

50 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:56:41pm

re: #43 AntonSirius

Someone should ask Glenn how he feels about Bolling calling for the FBI to wiretap mosques back in April…

silly you…those aren’t ril Americans…

51 uncah91  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:59:01pm

re: #49 Backwoods_Sleuth

or some really great toppers or dip…

Crackers just love dip…

52 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:59:13pm

Hey, there’s more stuff to read!

53 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:00:12pm

re: #50 Backwoods_Sleuth

silly you…those aren’t ril Americans…

Youtube Video

54 bratwurst  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:00:28pm
55 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:01:38pm
56 Interesting Times  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:02:04pm

re: #46 Vicious Babushka

You haz RT:

57 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:02:06pm
…The requests were made to a number of countries including the Republic of Austria, the Plurinational State of Bolivia, the Federative Republic of Brazil, the People’s Republic of China, the Republic of Cuba, the Republic of Finland, the French Republic, the Federal Republic of Germany, the Republic of India, the Italian Republic, the Republic of Ireland, the Kingdom of the Netherlands, the Republic of Nicaragua, the Kingdom of Norway, the Republic of Poland, the Russian Federation, the Kingdom of Spain, the Swiss Confederation and the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela.
58 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:05:23pm

re: #52 NJDhockeyfan

Smells like…desperation.

59 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:06:02pm

re: #57 NJDhockeyfan

Wow, that’s quite the list. Sounds like he’s desperate to go anywhere but here.

60 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:06:06pm

re: #48 Vicious Babushka

Also too: Detroit looks pretty at night from the air.

Hubs was in Detroit last winter to restore power after an winter/ice storm and it was after sunset and his crew still had work tickets. An Detroit cop pulled up and asked what the hell they thought they were doing being in “that neighborhood” after dark (every other house was empty and forlorn) and they should leave “right now”.
Hubs said, “We’re here to turn the lights back on.”
And they stayed there until almost midnight.
People who lived there were on their porches, sidewalks and on the street cheering that the power trucks had shown up. They brought out sandwiches and water…and when the lights came back on, there were many MANY handshakes, hugs and thank yous.
Detroit is what you make of it.

Please notice that I didn’t mention the racial makeup of anyone in this anecdote because it doesn’t make one whit of a difference.

61 b.d.  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:06:34pm

re: #57 NJDhockeyfan

Why stop there? He has plenty of time on his hands, apply to all of them.

62 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:06:45pm

re: #55 jaunte

Do you carry peanut butter c******s?

63 uncah91  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:07:12pm

Seriously, what really gets me about trying to compare racial slurs, is that it ignores the power imbalance. There are places, times, situations in the U.S. where it would be genuinely scary or debasing to be called “cracker”, but they are few and far between. Most of the time it’s going to be laughable.

Want to rile a white person up, you are going to have to call me something more specific. Redneck would work, but only for some people. You are going to have identify me as a powerless, undesirable minority. Cracker doesn’t do that. It says I’m white, and that’s about it.

64 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:07:24pm

re: #57 NJDhockeyfan

…The requests were made to a number of countries including the Republic of Austria, the Plurinational State of Bolivia, the Federative Republic of Brazil, the People’s Republic of China, the Republic of Cuba, the Republic of Finland, the French Republic, the Federal Republic of Germany, the Republic of India, the Italian Republic, the Republic of Ireland, the Kingdom of the Netherlands, the Republic of Nicaragua, the Kingdom of Norway, the Republic of Poland, the Russian Federation, the Kingdom of Spain, the Swiss Confederation and the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela.

So, no freebooting associations of libertarian trans-nationalists were available?

65 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:07:41pm

re: #58 Justanotherhuman

Smells like…desperation.

All along the plan was to retire on the frequent-flyer miles. Brilliant!!

66 Interesting Times  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:08:02pm
67 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:08:28pm
68 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:08:57pm

What is the worst name you can call a born again Evangelical Dominionist?

Neighbor.

69 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:09:06pm

re: #57 NJDhockeyfan

Throwing darts at the world map? Or is there some logic to his choice of countries?

Putin has stated that Russia will consider Snowden’s request only if he stops spilling secrets about NSA operations. Previously, Putin said Snowden was a “free man” and it would be a good idea to leave town.

70 engineer cat  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:10:22pm

re: #63 uncah91

for it to really hurt the way some slurs do, ‘cracker’ would have to be something a gang of people yelled before they were about to beat the shit out of somebody, or even lynch them

there are other ethnic slurs besides the n word that pass that test, but ‘cracker’ ain’t onna them

71 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:10:40pm

re: #69 wheat-dogghazi

Throwing darts at the world map? Or is there some logic to his choice of countries?

…snip.

Great cheeses.

72 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:11:03pm

re: #71 Decatur Deb

Great cheeses.

and crackers!

73 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:11:35pm
74 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:12:06pm

re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth

and crackers!

How DARE you use that horrible word.

75 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:12:32pm

Florida C*****r:
“We had to move up to Ft. Lauderdale after Miami got taken over by the c*b*ns”

76 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:12:33pm

re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth

and crackers!

They only live in the USA.

/

77 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:12:51pm

re: #74 thedopefishlives

How DARE you use that horrible word.

I’m a southern belle…it’s tradition…
//

78 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:13:24pm

re: #75 jaunte

Florida C*****r:
“We had to move up to Ft. Lauderdale after Miami got taken over by the c*b*ns”

79 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:13:44pm

re: #73 Gus

[Embedded content]

‘Cracker’ in Florida is actually a different concept—it’s a proud self-identification for the old natives, even giving its name to a style of architecture.

80 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:14:19pm

re: #78 Gus

I just KNEW those elves were racists….
//

81 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:15:03pm

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

I just KNEW those elves were racists….
//

They do look German.

//

82 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:15:08pm

re: #79 Decatur Deb

‘Cracker’ in Florida is actually a different concept—it’s a proud self-identification for the old natives, even giving its name to a style of architecture.

too bad that eejits have ruined the word for everyone.

83 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:15:59pm

C*****R Barrel, no wonder they went out of business.

Oh wait…

84 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:16:15pm

re: #81 Gus

They do look German.

//

more gnomish…

85 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:16:17pm

Opening Christmas C******* is a tradition in some families.

86 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:16:38pm

re: #64 jaunte

He’s an idiot. He had to travel to Russia to try to get into the PRC? So close, yet so far in Hong Kong?

He’s trying to sell this shit to the highest bidder, but no one is buying. I mean, why would the PRC want him now? He’s spent there.

87 b.d.  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:17:17pm

re: #76 wheat-dogghazi

They only live in the USA.

/

Sandwich Crackers live in Hawaii.

88 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:17:24pm

good grief…now we can’t have firec******s on the 4th of July…

89 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:17:25pm

re: #85 Kragar

Opening Christmas C******* is a tradition in some families.

We always wait until the kids go to bed.

90 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:17:32pm
91 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:17:55pm

re: #86 Justanotherhuman

Maybe Rand Paul will buy him to use in the campaign against Hilary.

92 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:18:01pm

re: #89 Decatur Deb

We always wait until the kids go to bed.

heh…

93 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:18:50pm

re: #57 NJDhockeyfan

…The requests were made to a number of countries including the Republic of Austria, the Plurinational State of Bolivia, the Federative Republic of Brazil, the People’s Republic of China, the Republic of Cuba, the Republic of Finland, the French Republic, the Federal Republic of Germany, the Republic of India, the Italian Republic, the Republic of Ireland, the Kingdom of the Netherlands, the Republic of Nicaragua, the Kingdom of Norway, the Republic of Poland, the Russian Federation, the Kingdom of Spain, the Swiss Confederation and the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela.

Spray & pray

94 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:19:23pm

Sharp Cheddar Cheese C*****s

95 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:20:37pm

I am not a cracker! I’m a saltine!

96 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:21:37pm

re: #95 Gus

I was once a sociable, but it got stale.

97 b.d.  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:21:42pm

re: #93 Vicious Babushka

India?

98 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:22:08pm
99 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:22:17pm

re: #57 NJDhockeyfan

…The requests were made to a number of countries including the Republic of Austria, the Plurinational State of Bolivia, the Federative Republic of Brazil, the People’s Republic of China, the Republic of Cuba, the Republic of Finland, the French Republic, the Federal Republic of Germany, the Republic of India, the Italian Republic, the Republic of Ireland, the Kingdom of the Netherlands, the Republic of Nicaragua, the Kingdom of Norway, the Republic of Poland, the Russian Federation, the Kingdom of Spain, the Swiss Confederation and the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela.

wait just a minute!!!! There is an entire “dark continent” missing from that list…
I smell something suspiciously like c*****r elitism…

100 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:23:25pm

re: #97 b.d.

India?

apparently subcontinents don’t make the cut…

102 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:24:19pm

re: #99 Backwoods_Sleuth

wait just a minute!!!! There is an entire “dark continent” missing from that list…
I smell something suspiciously like c*****r elitism…

North America. We’ll manage.

103 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:24:37pm

re: #97 b.d.

India?

I don’t see Pakistan on the list, I guess he has his standards.

104 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:25:16pm

re: #103 Vicious Babushka

I don’t see Pakistan on the list, I guess he has his standards.

My guess is, anywhere he has a chance of finding someone who speaks English and who will be gentle with him. Or at least, gentler than the FBI.

105 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:25:28pm

re: #96 jaunte

I was once a sociable, but it got stale.

That’s very rye of you.

106 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:25:55pm

What cracker?

107 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:28:02pm
108 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:28:13pm

re: #104 thedopefishlives

If my supposition is correct, it really reveals his naivete. I don’t think he realizes just how tame American police are, taken as a whole, compared to some of these places. Heck, in some of those countries, the police are worse even than the LAPD.

109 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:32:22pm

re: #108 thedopefishlives

Well, he can still apply for Club Fed, too.

110 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:33:24pm

Polly want a c*****r?

111 HoosierHoops  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:33:33pm

re: #101 Vicious Babushka

Moscow airport DOES NOT provide free meals for transit passengers!

Sleeping accommodations if you can’t afford $200/night capsule room.

sleepinginairports.net

Hi You!
Snowden will never have to worry about eating ever again. It doesn’t matter if he is living in a airport, jungle, villa, secured location or in a jail.
He will always have food and drink. What he will never have forever is what you and I take for granted every day. You know..Little things like freedom, family or a country.

112 b.d.  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:33:33pm

re: #104 thedopefishlives

My guess is, anywhere he has a chance of finding someone who speaks English and who will be gentle with him. Or at least, gentler than the FBI.

Places where there are pole dancers?

113 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:34:49pm

re: #108 thedopefishlives

If my supposition is correct, it really reveals his naivete. I don’t think he realizes just how tame American police are, taken as a whole, compared to some of these places. Heck, in some of those countries, the police are worse even than the LAPD.

People arrested in the USA have substantially more civil rights than in most of those countries listed. We also distinguish between police and military, which is not so clear cut in most countries.

114 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:35:06pm

re: #112 b.d.

Places where there are pole dancers?

Then India is back in:

Youtube Video

115 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:35:40pm

oh, my…
Hannity’s guest tonight was Pam Geller…

116 twisty  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:36:18pm

re: #108 thedopefishlives

I really don’t understand why someone his age would think China, Russia, and Ecuador are smart places for a former US intelligence worker to be.

117 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:36:43pm

Does this mean I can’t watch reruns of “C******” on Netflix now?

118 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:38:30pm

re: #116 twisty

Actually, he wasn’t an “intelligence” guy; he was a “computer” guy.

119 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:38:33pm

re: #116 twisty

I really don’t understand why someone his age would think China, Russia, and Ecuador are smart places for a former US intelligence worker to be.

Sheltered naivete.

120 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:38:40pm
121 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:38:42pm
122 uncah91  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:39:41pm

re: #70 engineer cat

If you were, say, in Compton, and an agitated group of men approached you and called you a cracker, you might be justified in feeling some alarm, and helplessness. The power dynamic would be reversed.

This was a possible daily experience for black people through much of the nation’s history.

123 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:39:55pm

Gus’s Gluten Free C*****rs™

124 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:42:30pm

George Zimmerman is a lying SOB.

125 uncah91  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:43:21pm

re: #124 Gus

George Zimmerman is a lying SOB.

You are just realizing this?

126 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:43:27pm

Power of the Intertubes. Went to the kitchen for a snack, found myself back here with a bowl of Cheddar Goldfish.

127 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:44:03pm

re: #125 uncah91

You are just realizing this?

Nope. It’s actually coming out as I saw it all along.

128 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:44:27pm

re: #121 NJDhockeyfan


Now it’s getting beyond pathetic…

129 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:44:45pm

re: #126 Decatur Deb

Power of the Intertubes. Went to the kitchen for a snack, found myself back here with a bowl of Cheddar Goldfish.

I now have a hankering for Cheez-Its (c******s).

130 uncah91  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:45:49pm

re: #127 Gus

Nope. It’s actually coming out as I saw it all along.

Sorry, that was a rhetorical flourish in which I was aiming for some elucidation on why now, particularly, you would choose to reiterate the obvious.

131 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:46:00pm

re: #129 wheat-dogghazi

I now have a hankering for Cheez-Its (c******s).

If the metrics are subtle enough, we could see a slight uptick in Nabisco at opening.

132 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:46:28pm

re: #127 Gus

Nope. It’s actually coming out as I saw it all along.

Because I have paid exactly zero attention to the entire case since the trial started, could I get a short summation?

133 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:47:02pm

re: #129 wheat-dogghazi

I go for pretzels now instead. But it’s not about the logic, is it?

134 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:47:09pm
135 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:48:12pm

re: #134 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s the brie, I tells ya.

136 uncah91  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:50:08pm

re: #135 Decatur Deb

It’s the brie, I tells ya.

They’ll never take … Our Brie-Dom!

137 ProTARDISLiberal  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:52:36pm

So I finished the “Silence in the Library/The Forest of the Dead” two-parter….

I think CAL might be one of the Echo Claras.

138 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:53:04pm

re: #136 uncah91

They’ll never take … Our Brie-Dom!

This ends with Snowden floating in the Po with a wedge of Reggiano stuffed in his mouth.

139 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:53:42pm

How low can they go?

140 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:54:33pm

re: #130 uncah91

Sorry, that was a rhetorical flourish in which I was aiming for some elucidation on why now, particularly, you would choose to reiterate the obvious.

[Scratches beard.]

141 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:55:14pm

re: #139 jaunte

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How low can they go?

I’m sure they still can keep digging…

142 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:55:24pm

re: #132 thedopefishlives

Because I have paid exactly zero attention to the entire case since the trial started, could I get a short summation?

No can do. I really haven’t been paying much attention other than my TL on Twitter.

143 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:56:27pm

re: #142 Gus

No can do. I really haven’t been paying much attention other than my TL on Twitter.

Anybody else?

144 engineer cat  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:58:40pm

hustler-rama!

no, i would not like to come over to your office and talk about how i could make big buxxx on the side - on commission! - hustling your scam to “families”

145 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:58:51pm
146 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 7:59:05pm

re: #143 thedopefishlives

Anybody else?

Saw a half-hour on Fox while stuck in the dentist’s waiting room. The Defense and Prosecution are both trying to throw the case. Oh, and they blame Obama.

147 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:00:18pm

re: #43 AntonSirius

Someone should ask Glenn how he feels about Bolling calling for the FBI to wiretap mosques back in April…

He’ll try to drown out the question by rippling the money from his appearances. He’s fine with standing with assholes as long as he gets paid.

148 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:01:16pm

re: #139 jaunte

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How low can they go?

Trying to come up with a description of stupidity or of deep inscrutable strategy that could explain that. I’m dry so far…

149 freetoken  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:01:17pm

re: #139 jaunte

“Hezbollah in America”, indeed.

150 Stanghazi  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:02:22pm

re: #143 thedopefishlives

Anybody else?

I’ve been trying to land on a blog that covers it, someone directed me last week to one of the local stations. I’m kind of looking for analysis. Haven’t found anything. I’m basically following on twitter.

Nancy Grace is on it.

151 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:02:42pm

re: #148 Decatur Deb

Even if you ignore his ludicrous ideas about women, Hotze is a notorious quack.

152 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:04:10pm

re: #151 jaunte

Even if you ignore his ludicrous ideas about women, Hotze is a notorious quack.

We had idiots like that in Pittsburgh, but we kept them half-drunk at the dim end of the bar, near the pickled eggs.

153 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:04:23pm

re: #149 freetoken

“Hezbollah in America”, indeed.

Actually, he’s worse than Hezbollah, which at least thinks that a doctor should work to save a person’s life on Friday. This asshole thinks a doctor should let someone die rather than violate the Sabbath.

So yeah, he’s worse than Hezbollah.

154 Interesting Times  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:07:49pm

re: #145 jaunte

155 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:10:34pm

re: #154 Interesting Times

The kind of BS you’d expect from the daughter of San Fran Nan. Manages to come off as anti-male and anti=tradition at the same time.

156 ProTARDISLiberal  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:12:20pm

re: #153 Dark_Falcon

That is an unholy achievement.

157 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:13:15pm

re: #155 Dark_Falcon

The kind of BS you’d expect from the daughter of San Fran Nan. Manages to come off as anti-male and anti=tradition at the same time.

Speak for yourself. Not to me.

158 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:14:28pm

re: #155 Dark_Falcon

The kind of BS you’d expect from the daughter of San Fran Nan. Manages to come off as anti-male and anti=tradition at the same time.

Wow, what the hell. Sounds like someone struck a nerve.

159 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:18:00pm

Contrast of a traditional portrait of political power with a representation of present and future political power. I have no gripe with it.

160 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:18:36pm

re: #155 Dark_Falcon

oh… old stale male “tradition” has been dissed…
got it.

161 CriticalDragon1177  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:19:18pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

There won’t be any fighting on this show. This is why Fox News exists.

That will be too bad than. Oh well, I won’t have a reason to watch Fox News than.

162 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:19:39pm

re: #158 thedopefishlives

Wow, what the hell. Sounds like someone struck a nerve.

Yes, yes, it did.

163 Mattand  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:19:39pm

re: #155 Dark_Falcon

The kind of BS you’d expect from the daughter of San Fran Nan. Manages to come off as anti-male and anti=tradition at the same time.

WON’T SOMEONE THINK OF THE PALE STALE MALES?

164 freetoken  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:19:42pm

I see that George Takei omitting “under God” is causing heartache in certain circles. They want to simultaneously exclaim that Takei is a nobody, then run on for a hundred comments about him.

165 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:20:14pm

re: #159 jaunte

Contrast of a traditional portrait of political power with a representation of present and future political power. I have no gripe with it.

Can’t trust that kid—she’s wearing pink sandals already.

166 bratwurst  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:20:29pm

re: #155 Dark_Falcon

The kind of BS you’d expect from the daughter of San Fran Nan. Manages to come off as anti-male and anti=tradition at the same time.

Keep vigilant against the pervasive scourge of anti-male discrimination! /

167 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:20:30pm

re: #163 Mattand

WON’T SOMEONE THINK OF THE PALE STALE MALES?

Here you go:
blog.chron.com

168 Interesting Times  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:21:36pm

re: #155 Dark_Falcon

The kind of BS you’d expect from the daughter of San Fran Nan. Manages to come off as anti-male and anti=tradition at the same time.

Why u mad bro? It’s not like she called them cr*ck*rs ;)

169 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:22:17pm

re: #166 bratwurst

Keep vigilant against the pervasive scourge of anti-male discrimination! /

they’re just so PERSECUTED these days!
Those wimminz getting all uppity and whatnot..
//

170 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:22:17pm

re: #162 Dark_Falcon

Yes, yes, it did.

Okay, look: I’m as sensitive as anyone to reverse racism, reverse sexism, and the like. I get pissed off all the time at some of my activist friends who really do cross the line from minority advocacy to outright anti-white-male discrimination. This isn’t it. Trim your feathers and settle down. Even you have to admit that white men are dominating American policymaking far beyond their representation.

171 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:23:44pm

re: #163 Mattand

re: #166 bratwurst

You know, it’s possible to think the meme someone is putting out is BS without thinking they are trying to persecute you. That’s what I think is the case here: It’s a diss by the younger Pelosi, not a boot in the face.

172 Amory Blaine  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:23:56pm

re: #146 Decatur Deb

At my doctors office FOX blares all day. The feel I get from the staff is they like it. The talk around the water cooler is enlightening no doubt.

173 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:24:19pm

So. About Frank Zappa…

//

174 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:24:49pm

re: #173 Gus

So. About Frank Zappa…

//

I think he’s still dead.

175 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:25:28pm

And on that note, I am headed to bed. Night Lizardim. Play safe with those flamethrowers and remember the asbestos scales.

176 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:26:48pm

re: #163 Mattand

WON’T SOMEONE THINK OF THE PALE STALE MALES?

heh…reminds me of “Olde Frothingslosh” the “pale stale ale with the foam on the bottom”…

178 Mattand  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:27:10pm

re: #171 Dark_Falcon

You know, it’s possible to think the meme someone is putting out is BS without thinking they are trying to persecute you. That’s what I think is the case here: It’s a diss by the younger Pelosi, not a boot in the face.

Given the amount of shit men have put women through over the last week in TX and OH, let alone the last 237 years, I think I can look the other way once in a while.

179 CriticalDragon1177  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:27:45pm

re: #38 Vicious Babushka

WON’T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE 71% OF HOMELESS HETEROSEXUALS BEIN ALL PERSECUTED IN SAN FRANCISCO!!11

Looks like Bryan will use anything he can to try to demonize gay people, even though nothing in that story would give me the impression that their homosexuality caused them to become homeless. If anything it makes me feel bad for the homeless people In San Fransisco, especially the ones who are gay.

180 Amory Blaine  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:28:06pm

re: #174 Dark_Falcon

Zombie Zappa

181 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:28:08pm

re: #175 thedopefishlives

And on that note, I am headed to bed. Night Lizardim. Play safe with those flamethrowers and remember the asbestos scales.

What rock have you been living under? Asbestos scales were banned back in the 1980’s. They cause cancer, you know!

///

182 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:28:09pm

re: #175 thedopefishlives

And on that note, I am headed to bed. Night Lizardim. Play safe with those flamethrowers and remember the asbestos scales.

me too…evil kittehs will be up and about much sooner than I care to think about…

183 ProTARDISLiberal  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:29:07pm

Also, Happy Canada Day!

To our best neighbor and ally!

184 polisurgist  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:29:18pm

re: #64 jaunte

So, no freebooting associations of libertarian trans-nationalists were available?

Well, he hasn’t raped anyone, so he isn’t eligible yet.

185 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:31:27pm

re: #178 Mattand

Given the amount of shit men have put women through over the last week in TX and OH, let alone the last 237 years, I think I can look the other way once in a while.

Sure you can, but I decided not to. It was just a tweet I found to be ‘full of it’. It’s not majorly problematic like the crap Bryan Fischer puts out.

And that’s all I’ve got to say about that.

186 Interesting Times  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:33:25pm

Why America can’t have nice things, Exhibit 537-A:

187 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:34:26pm

re: #186 Interesting Times

Why America can’t have nice things, Exhibit 537-A:

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I saw that and rolled my eyes.

188 Interesting Times  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:37:37pm

re: #187 Gus

I saw that and rolled my eyes.

In fairness, I can think of some old fossils not quite in the “million year” range… #GOPestablishment #AverageFoxViewer

189 Amory Blaine  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:40:57pm

Isn’t that how young children and birds think? That if it’s out of their eyesight it doesn’t exist?

190 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:42:25pm

re: #186 Interesting Times

Why America can’t have nice things, Exhibit 537-A:

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Well, America does have nice things, but you have to go to a real museum to see ‘em.

191 dragonath  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:44:00pm

re: #186 Interesting Times

What did God write the bible with? His freakin dick?

Ah, so divine revelation only works for Christians. Got it.

192 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:50:58pm
193 freetoken  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:51:39pm

re: #192 Gus

Yeah, but they are women, and we all know that a woman ought not instruct a man.

194 dragonath  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:52:23pm

Hot off the wires:

Egypt crisis: President Morsi rejects army ultimatum

195 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:53:46pm
196 Interesting Times  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:54:50pm

re: #192 Gus

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On a completely trivial and superficial note, Wendy Davis also serves as a perfect rebuttal to the “durr hurr all the conservative wimminz are hot and the lib ones are old and wrinkled herp derp” meme

197 AlexRogan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:55:14pm

re: #99 Backwoods_Sleuth

wait just a minute!!!! There is an entire “dark continent” missing from that list…
I smell something suspiciously like c*****r elitism…

You would think that Somalia would be at the top of the list for a “tranziprog” like Snowden.

198 bratwurst  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:56:00pm
199 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:57:57pm

re: #196 Interesting Times

On a completely trivial and superficial note, Wendy Davis also serves as a perfect rebuttal to the “durr hurr all the conservative wimminz are hot and the lib ones are old and wrinkled herp derp” meme

“Davis is everything Republicans fear.
The daughter of a single mother and a single mother herself at 19, Davis studied at a community college to become a paralegal, graduated first in her class at Texas Christian University, then graduated with honors from Harvard Law School. She is eloquent, telegenic, and smart. She’s also a white woman who swept the black and Hispanic vote in her senate district.”
washingtonspectator.org

200 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:58:09pm

re: #198 bratwurst

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201 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:58:28pm

I bite.

202 AlexRogan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 8:58:50pm

re: #201 Gus

I bite.

Have you got all of your shots?

203 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:00:08pm

re: #202 AlexRogan

Have you got all of your shots?

Nope.

204 freetoken  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:05:54pm

re: #196 Interesting Times

She’s being attacked by the usual theocons and misogynists. Those who put forward the pretense of being serious accuse her of wanting late term abortions, without ever discussing the actual bill that was up for vote.

205 ProTARDISLiberal  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:06:01pm

Meanwhile, in Washington State.

206 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:07:19pm
207 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:07:54pm

re: #194 dragonath

Hot off the wires:

Egypt crisis: President Morsi rejects army ultimatum

Morsi may not care about ultimatums: He’s the effective leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, a group that sees itself as being on a Mission From God. He may well expect divine intervention.

208 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:09:35pm

re: #205 ProTARDISLiberal

Meanwhile, in Washington State.

She ought to invest in a more effective weapon. A rattan cane or pepper spray, perhaps.

209 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:10:27pm

re: #207 Dark_Falcon

Morsi may not care about ultimatums: He’s the effective leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, a group that sees itself as being on a Mission From God. He may well expect divine intervention.

Sort of like the Texas GOP, but with more guns and ammo.

210 klys and whatnot  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:13:44pm

re: #209 Lidane

Sort of like the Texas GOP, but with more guns and ammo.

Wait, which side has the guns and ammo?

only half /

211 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:15:52pm

re: #209 Lidane

Sort of like the Texas GOP, but with more guns and ammo.

Actually with less of those. To hear Austin Blue tell it, and he’s likely right, the Texas Democrats likely have more firepower than the Muslim Brotherhood.

212 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:17:15pm

re: #211 Dark_Falcon

Actually with less of those. To hear Austin Blue tell it, and he’s likely right, the Texas Democrats likely have more firepower than the Muslim Brotherhood.

Maybe here in Austin. However, parts of East Texas are a bit dodgy.

Heh.

213 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:17:55pm
214 klys and whatnot  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:18:11pm

re: #212 Lidane

Maybe here in Austin. However, parts of East Texas are a bit dodgy.

Heh.

Pfft, we all know that the TXGOP quakes in fear to hear about that unruly mob coming in.

//

215 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:18:19pm

Sad news for fans of 007:

Pierce Brosnan devastated after daughter Charlotte, 42, loses battle with ovarian cancer

Actor Pierce Brosnan is devastated after his daughter Charlotte died, aged just 42.

The mother-of-two died after a three year battle with ovarian cancer - the same disease which killed her mother Cassandra 22 years ago - at her London home on Friday.

Pierce, who has been filming a spy thriller, November Man, in Eastern Europe, last night said: ‘On June 28 my darling daughter Charlotte Emily passed on to eternal life, having succumbed to ovarian cancer. She was surrounded by her husband Alex, children Isabella and Lucas and brothers Christopher and Sean.

‘Charlotte fought her cancer with grace and humanity, courage and dignity. Our hearts are heavy with the loss of our beautiful dear girl.

‘We pray for her and that the cure for this wretched disease will be close at hand soon. We thank everyone for their heartfelt condolences.’

Charlotte, who was adopted by the Irish actor in 1986 when her biological father Dermot Harris died, leaves behind her husband, artist Alex Smith and children Isabella, 15, and Lucas, eight.

She is survived by her brothers Christopher, Sean, Dylan and Paris.

216 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:18:40pm

re: #211 Dark_Falcon

Actually with less of those. To hear Austin Blue tell it, and he’s likely right, the Texas Democrats likely have more firepower than the Muslim Brotherhood.

Sure but the Texas Republicans are like the Muslim Brotherhood. Weird. That.

217 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:19:52pm

re: #214 klys and whatnot

Pfft, we all know that the TXGOP quakes in fear to hear about that unruly mob coming in.

//

The Grand Ayatollah Dewhurst is still pissed he couldn’t deliver a bill to Perry the first time around. The GOP are going to pull out all the stops this time around to prevent another filibuster and to force that bill through.

218 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:20:17pm

re: #214 klys and whatnot

Pfft, we all know that the TXGOP quakes in fear to hear about that unruly mob coming in.

//

Thing is that we were talking about the Democrats down there. There’s a good number of folks down there who don’t want SB5 to pass, but also like guns a great deal.

219 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:20:34pm

re: #217 Lidane

The Grand Ayatollah Dewhurst is still pissed he couldn’t deliver a bill to Perry the first time around. The GOP are going to pull out all the stops this time around to prevent another filibuster and to force that bill through.

220 klys and whatnot  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:20:42pm

re: #217 Lidane

The Grand Ayatollah Dewhurst is still pissed he couldn’t deliver a bill to Perry the first time around. The GOP are going to pull out all the stops this time around to prevent another filibuster and to force that bill through.

Just remember, that’s not mob rule, that’s doing God’s work.

//

221 dragonath  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:21:48pm

These guys are either pulling off the most amazing Poe ever, or they’re the biggest conglomeration of assholes on the internet. Or both.

Heterosexuality Awareness Month

Image: sLoWK8b.jpg

222 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:21:49pm
223 klys and whatnot  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:22:01pm

re: #218 Dark_Falcon

Thing is that we were talking about the Democrats down there. There’s a good number of folks down there who don’t want SB5 to pass, but also like guns a great deal.

You’re talking about the Democrats.

To be perfectly honest, for most people, when you talk about folks on a “mission from God” and then make comparisons to the number of guns they have, Democrats are not the first party that comes to mind.

Even in Texas.

224 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:23:13pm

re: #218 Dark_Falcon

Thing is that we were talking about the Democrats down there. There’s a good number of folks down there who don’t want SB5 to pass, but also like guns a great deal.

Yes, but unlike the Muslim Brotherhood, the Texas Dems are less inclined to use their guns to make a point.

Right now, they’re focusing on keeping people motivated to keep fighting SB5, and getting folks deputized so they can register voters.

225 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:23:50pm

re: #223 klys and whatnot

You’re talking about the Democrats.

To be perfectly honest, for most people, when you talk about folks on a “mission from God” and then make comparisons to the number of guns they have, Democrats are not the first party that comes to mind.

Even in Texas.

Eh, twists and turns of the discussion. No big deal.

226 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:25:37pm
227 freetoken  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:27:31pm

Wendy Davis is the target of huge outpouring of hate from the “Patriot” right, and theocons everywhere.

Noticeable is that the actual bill, SB5, is not even discussed. The haters just don’t want to go through the elements of the bill one by one. All they know (and repeat from elsewhere) is that Wendy Davis wants “infanticide”. Ignored are all the other consequences of SB5. They totally ignore the impacts on abortions before the 20th week.

228 klys and whatnot  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:28:28pm

re: #225 Dark_Falcon

Eh, twists and turns of the discussion. No big deal.

I am actually kind of curious: do you see similarities between the Muslim Brotherhood and Democrats? If so, what?

229 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:29:47pm

re: #227 freetoken

Noticeable is that the actual bill, SB5, is not even discussed. The haters just don’t want to go through the elements of the bill one by one. All they know (and repeat from elsewhere) is that Wendy Davis wants “infanticide”. Ignored are all the other consequences of SB5. They totally ignore the impacts on abortions before the 20th week.

That’s because the modern GOP and the RWNJ brigades loathe nuance. They just want the Faux News soundbite.

230 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:33:39pm

Number of ‘Creation Museum’ visitors drops

Attendance has dropped from over 400,000 when the museum first opened to just over a 250,000 last year. Visitors have mixed reactions. One man visiting the facility told ABC News that he “learned a little more about God” at the museum. “The whole thing seems kind of crazy,” another told news reporters.

231 engineer cat  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:38:43pm

commercials where your lunch slaps you in the mouth just freak me out

232 AlexRogan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:40:24pm

re: #215 Dark_Falcon

Sad news for fans of 007:

Pierce Brosnan devastated after daughter Charlotte, 42, loses battle with ovarian cancer

Damn, that’s harsh.

Same type of cancer that got Gilda Radnor so long ago (and more than a few recognizable folks since).

233 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:41:08pm

re: #228 klys and whatnot

I am actually kind of curious: do you see similarities between the Muslim Brotherhood and Democrats? If so, what?

No, nor was I trying to imply any. I was making what I thought was a humorous reference to some jokes Austin Blue has cracked. I wasn’t even trying to be critical.

234 klys and whatnot  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:42:33pm

re: #233 Dark_Falcon

No, nor was I trying to imply any. I was making what I thought was a humorous reference to some jokes Austin Blue has cracked. I wasn’t even trying to be critical.

Fair enough. I figured, since the text was unclear (as text often can be) to ask for clarification.

235 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:43:06pm

re: #232 AlexRogan

Damn, that’s harsh.

Same type of cancer that got Gilda Radnor so long ago (and more than a few recognizable folks since).

Cancer is an unforgiving monstrosity.

236 erik_t  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:46:05pm

re: #230 Kragar

Number of ‘Creation Museum’ visitors drops

Regale yourself with delightful artwork and other beautiful adornments as you stroll beneath extraordinary Chinese dragons in the museum’s portico. Learn about fabulous encounters with these incredible beasts from China to Africa, Europe to the Americas, and Australia to the Middle East. Discover what ancient historians have written about these creatures, and examine armaments that may have been used by valiant dragon slayers.

Old Chinese fairy tales about dragons n’ shit: A-ok.
Peer reviewed science and rocks and things: EVIL DEBBIL TRICK

I don’t get these people.

237 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:47:15pm

re: #236 erik_t

Old Chinese fairy tales about dragons n’ shit: A-ok.
Peer reviewed science and rocks and things: EVIL DEBBIL TRICK

I don’t get these people.

King Arthur and the Knights of the DERP Table.

238 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:49:04pm

re: #236 erik_t

Old Chinese fairy tales about dragons n’ shit: A-ok.
Peer reviewed science and rocks and things: EVIL DEBBIL TRICK

I don’t get these people.

You keep applying objective thought and logic, these people are easy to “get” once you understand that they think they have a monompoly on God’s Revealed Truth, and are willing to select, bend and ignore whatever objective facts are needed to prove their point.

There is no arguing with them, we can only hope to limit the damage they do to our society, educational system and politics.

239 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:49:40pm

re: #234 klys and whatnot

Fair enough. I figured, since the text was unclear (as text often can be) to ask for clarification.

Not a problem. Thank you for asking than understanding.

240 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 9:53:45pm

re: #207 Dark_Falcon

Morsi may not care about ultimatums: He’s the effective leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, a group that sees itself as being on a Mission From God. He may well expect divine intervention.

As in a divine clusterf*ck of violence and reprisal.

If the Islamists remain in power, no tourists will go to Egypt and the economy will suffer, causing unrest.

If the Islamists are run out of power, they will retailate by bombing tourist sites, etc…

They are f*cked. It is the Will of Allah.

241 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:12:15pm

re: #138 Decatur Deb

This ends with Snowden floating in the Po with a wedge of Reggiano stuffed in his mouth.

A Po’ Boy?

242 efuseakay  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:15:10pm

Nice to see the EU up in arms about us spying on them. Will they be equally up in arms when they get busted for doing the same to us, each other, and their citizens?

*Where’s the rhetorical question tag?*

243 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 10:17:58pm

Good Night, All.

244 Amory Blaine  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:20:53pm

American Way of Birth, Costliest in the World

Seven months pregnant, at a time when most expectant couples are stockpiling diapers and choosing car seats, Renée Martin was struggling with bigger purchases.
At a prenatal class in March, she was told about epidural anesthesia and was given the option of using a birthing tub during labor. To each offer, she had one gnawing question: “How much is that going to cost?”

Though Ms. Martin, 31, and her husband, Mark Willett, are both professionals with health insurance, her current policy does not cover maternity care. So the couple had to approach the nine months that led to the birth of their daughter in May like an extended shopping trip though the American health care bazaar, sorting through an array of maternity services that most often have no clear price and — with no insurer to haggle on their behalf — trying to negotiate discounts from hospitals and doctors.

When she became pregnant, Ms. Martin called her local hospital inquiring about the price of maternity care; the finance office at first said it did not know, and then gave her a range of $4,000 to $45,000. “It was unreal,” Ms. Martin said. “I was like, How could you not know this? You’re a hospital.”

245 Political Atheist  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:27:55pm

re: #242 efuseakay

Nice to see the EU up in arms about us spying on them. Will they be equally up in arms when they get busted for doing the same to us, each other, and their citizens?

*Where’s the rhetorical question tag?*

Spying is a little like certain personal affairs. Having the affair is tolerable. Getting caught is not.

246 Amory Blaine  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:29:04pm

re: #244 Amory Blaine

American Way of Birth, Costliest in the World

Why aren’t the anti-abortion people up in arms about this outrage?

247 piratedan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:38:41pm

re: #246 Amory Blaine

no expense shall be spared in defense of the holy fetii, unless it’s prenatal care, post delivery education, post delivery health care or any incidental human incubator maintenance.

248 Kragar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 12:03:32am

re: #247 piratedan

no expense shall be spared in defense of the holy fetii, unless it’s prenatal care, post delivery education, post delivery health care or any incidental human incubator maintenance.

They will mandate it gets carried to term, with the woman responsible for every dime along the way and cutting off all forms of assistance.

249 freetoken  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 12:24:53am

MP3 Audio

250 jonhendry  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 12:56:33am

Snowden’s best bet is to disguise himself as some of Apple’s international revenue. Then he’d get sent to Ireland, and considered to not be under the jurisdiction of any state.

I would suggest that he do his best impression of a euro.

251 freetoken  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 1:22:57am

Can America fight off the far right plunge in theocracy that state level GOP leaders are taking?

I don’t know, but it seems the theocrats in TX are bound determined to teach Wendy Davis a lesson. That hard push now is to label Davis as a proponent of “infanticide” so expect to see that claim more and more. She’ll probably be redistricted out of a political career.

In OH, and IN, there is an entrenched GOP control in their state legislatures will not move easily. It could take decades. The rust-belt resentment has been used craftily by the GOP in those states.

252 freetoken  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 1:27:11am

MP3 Audio

253 EdDantes  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 1:42:49am

re: #251 freetoken

In your opinion at what point does abortion become infanticide, if any?

254 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 1:44:50am

re: #253 EdDantes

In your opinion at what point does abortion become infanticide, if any?

A fairly standard point, accepted by many rational people, is when the child is viable outside the mother’s womb…but there is no arguing that point with the Theocrats. For them, it is at conception, regardless of whether that conception was the result of rape or incest, it was all an Act of God.

Remember, we cannot argue with these people, we can only hope to limit the amount of damage they can do.

255 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 1:48:33am

USA Today reports Snowden has dropped his asylum request to Russia, because Putin hurt his feelings, or something.

usatoday.com

256 EdDantes  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 2:01:40am

re: #254 Sol Berdinowitz

I am conflicted on this. Generally, I am opposed to abortion. My personal exceptions are rape, incest and the life of the mother. Modern medical care today allows viability outside the womb to extend to babies who would have died a few decades ago. I’m certainly not a theocrat but I do not take abortion lightly.

257 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 2:08:23am

re: #256 EdDantes

I am conflicted on this. Generally, I am opposed to abortion. My personal exceptions are rape, incest and the life of the mother. Modern medical care today allows viability outside the womb to extend to babies who would have died a few decades ago. I’m certainly not a theocrat but I do not take abortion lightly.

I don’t like abortion either, but the best way to reduce abortion is to help mothers find ways to keep and raise their children: more maternity leave, lower chilldbearing and childrearing costs, etc.

The Fundamentalist approach is to protect the “sancitiy of life” in the womb and then drop it entirely when the kid pops out.

258 jonhendry  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 2:10:14am

re: #257 Sol Berdinowitz

I don’t like abortion either, but the best way to reduce abortion is to help mothers find ways to keep and raise their children: more maternity leave, lower chilldbearing and childrearing costs, etc.

Plus decent sex education and contraception availability.

Which the wingnuts also oppose.

259 EdDantes  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 2:12:05am

re: #255 wheat-dogghazi

I was initially in favor of Snowden. But now he seems to want to be a martyr without any consequences. That is no martyr at all.

260 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 2:15:23am

There are a lot of conwservative principles that I agree with, but the way they go about implementing them is another matter.

if we expect young people to take responsibilities for their actions and their reproductive systems, we need to give them all the information they need to make decisions, not just scare them and shame them into submission.

And I am all for self-reliance and individual initiative. But we cannot expect individuals and families with limited incomes and resources to negotiate on an equal level with multi-billion-dollar international corporations without some sort of intermediary in the form of a union or government.

And I see the Free Market not as an idology, but as a mechanism for helping to bring together supply and demand and to direct flows of capital to where they do the most benefit.

And a market needs an infrastructure - both a physical and a legal/regulatory one - to ensure that it works for the benefit of all participants.

261 freetoken  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 2:17:24am

re: #253 EdDantes

In your opinion at what point does abortion become infanticide, if any?

It’s not really well defined medically, but I’d say not until after the fetus’ brain develops enough to integrated the sensory it is given. “Viability” these days starts around 27 weeks, so I’ve read, and that would be the hard transition. So somewhere between 22 and 27 weeks. Even then I’m not sure I’d call it “infanticide” until later in the pregnancy.

262 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 2:30:39am

Big news in town.
Milwaukee documents show church was slow to act on abusive priests

Pages and pages of paperwork documenting clergy sex abuse in the Milwaukee archdiocese were released Monday afternoon, providing insight to priest abuse cases over the years as well as New York Cardinal Timothy Dolan’s request to move church assets to protect them from a bankruptcy filing before he left Milwaukee in 2009.
Jeff Anderson, a lawyer representing the victims of clergy sex abuse in the archdiocese, said in a news conference Monday that the newly released documents show that decisions were made to move $147 million to a fund for cemetery maintenance and to parishes under Dolan, then archbishop of Milwaukee. Anderson said the Vatican acted with unprecedented speed to approve the transfer of the money.

Anderson said the request to move the money was made in a June 4, 2007, letter to the Vatican and was approved July 18, 2007.

Anderson compared the speed of the money transfer to the years it took to act on abusive priests. Specifically, he said, Fr. John Wagner was accused of abusing 10 minors, and though he admitted some of the misconduct, he remained a priest for more than seven years after the allegations were made.

NYT Link

Dolan Sought to Protect Church Assets, Files Show

263 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 2:33:52am

re: #262 Amory Blaine

The churche insists that donation money is not used to pay abuse settlement cases.

They scoop that soup from the other side of the pot…

264 EdDantes  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 2:35:07am

night all.

265 HAL2010  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 2:44:48am




Good morning from Stockholm!

266 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 2:45:10am

re: #262 Amory Blaine
Here is a good timeline of events

A timeline of clergy sex abuse in Milwaukee

267 Cresttwo  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 2:57:24am

Okay, we’re into self-parody at this point.

Talking on a Fox show to all those Obama-haters! Goodness. So Greenwald must be a front man for Hannity.

Its simple logic.

Please, I surrender. The stupid coming from LGF with this witless anti-greenwald campaign has me in stitches. When’s Johnson coming back from mental vacation? It looks like the teens who were supposed to feed the cats have thrown all the furniture out in the back yard and started a bonfire in the middle of the living room with all your old Jazz magazines. Time to call in the industrial cleaners.

268 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 3:10:34am

re: #267 Cresttwo

Point here is that there was a time when Hannity would not give Greenwald the time of day, now he gives him a platform.

269 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 3:11:13am

re: #260 Sol Berdinowitz

I agree with what you’re saying.

But somehow, greed and narcissism, while not taking over completely, have gotten in the way far too much in the market place, and the ideology itself resides in the current political atmosphere which supports it even with these terrible flaws, to the point that it has deteriorated into the racism, sexism and reactionary views we continue to see today. Along with the rise of “personal” redemption in the form of evangelical dominionist theology which covers all those bases, too, what it all boils down to is hucksterism for suckers born every minute, whether it’s religion, politics, or the latest Apple product which people camp out to get first.

Money alone has become the currency of power, even among the god-botherers who herd many of the sheeple, whether in the libertarianism of billionaires like the Koch Bros who tolerate them, to the kooks who allow it to seep into their business style, like Chick-fil-A, to the multi-national corps which no longer have an allegiance to any nation or people, just to bloating themselves with excessive profits with the cheapest labor they can find and cutting corners on safety and worker welfare. The CEOs who live like kings of their own domain who will use anything to push their own agenda.

Too many people confuse the ability to make money with actual thinking and with freedom itself. Cheating, lying, and stealing are not new to making money and have been around since the dawn of our existence. Being fair and paying your employees a decent, living wage, being honest with the public, and supporting a robust middle class which is healthy and lives above a subsistence level that allows them to “stop and smell the roses”, so to speak, seems to have risen to a new level of wealth inequality as different segments of society fight over the crumbs. Pride in one’s labor, education, and knowledge can no longer surmount the nagging fear that a person is just another cog in the wheel—we are supposed to “take what we can get” not what we deserve for that which we have prepared and for our own abilities.

None of it is a pretty sight in any country, esp in one which holds the promise of equality for all, not just the few.

270 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 3:11:26am

re: #267 Cresttwo

The point, which you have apparently missed, is the ostensibly left-wing/libertarian Greenwald appearing on a noticeably right-wing TV “news” program. The only politics they share is disdain for the sitting US president, and that’s what Charles is pointing out.

You have a way of beating metaphors into submission — burning the furniture?

271 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 3:14:06am

Speaking of F&F, it’s on right now. Anyone watching it? Fox has video streaming behind a “cable wall,” so we poor slogs outside the USA can’t watch their stellar programming.

{I joke}

272 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 3:32:34am

re: #269 Justanotherhuman

We should care more about how someone makes their money than how much they make of it.

273 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 3:34:07am

re: #267 Cresttwo

You realize that the claim was never made that Greenwald was a front man for Hannity, right?

Makes your tirade kind of senseless.

274 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 3:41:27am

More pale stale males in Ohio: Image: original.jpg

Women will remember!

275 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 3:54:15am

People almost never read the Terms of Service to their cellphone plans or the various online services they use, like Facebook. So maybe it never occurred to many of them that they willingly gave all their information to multinational telecoms a long time ago. Still, this new definition of “secrecy” intrigues me, the one where all that “private” data is known only to the user, the telecom, and whatever international marketing conglomerates that want to pay for it. So the idea that governments couldn’t or shouldn’t see it seems so naïve that I can’t even think of an adjective that properly conveys the sheer enormity of that naïveté.

Which isn’t to say that there aren’t obvious problems with the Patriot Act and the way the FISA courts seem to be operating, there are. The most glaring apparently being the complete lack of any opposing counsel, no “devil’s advocate” if you will, so that there’s nobody to appeal a ruling and therefore effectively no higher court of review.

276 HAL2010  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 3:57:00am
277 HAL2010  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 3:59:13am
278 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 4:00:23am

re: #269 Justanotherhuman

re: #272 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

We should care more about how someone makes their money than how much they make of it.

We also still measure propserity and progress in terms of how many resources we consume instead of the quality of life we produce from the resources we use.

And especially those people who make their money from extracting and exploiting resources would not have us think any other way: environmental whackos whould have us live in lean-tos and wipe our butts with leaves!!!

279 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 4:02:55am

re: #272 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

I thought I made it fairly clear that there is little distinction in “how” and “how much” money is made. Over my 50 yrs of working, I’ve seen it from the single owner to the multi-national corp, and it’s just gotten worse.

280 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 4:08:09am

re: #279 Justanotherhuman

I thought I made it fairly clear that there is little distinction in “how” and “how much” money is made. Over my 50 yrs of working, I’ve seen it from the single owner to the multi-national corp, and it’s just gotten worse.

There was a time back in the days of national economies and import restrictions that funneling money back into corporations meant that they could invest more in the domestic economy and job market.

But nowadays, capital is free to flow wherever it brings the highest rate of return, which means cheap consumer goods from abroad and sub-minimum wage jobs stocking the stuff for Americans.

281 HAL2010  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 4:11:15am
282 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 4:13:48am

re: #281 HAL2010

FULL readout of President Obama’s call with President #Mursi

“I can’t tell you how pleased I am to be talking with someone less popular than me right now. Why did you think you could run a country with religious fanatics who refuse to compromise?”

283 HAL2010  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 4:16:44am

Poor Snowden!

284 sattv4u2  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 4:18:14am

re: #283 HAL2010

Poor Snowden!

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Unfortunately, it only takes one!

285 HAL2010  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 4:18:51am

re: #284 sattv4u2

Cuba, the bastion of freedom!

286 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 4:20:37am

Dark money group lies to IRS about being dark money group

Scandal! The IRS was not thorough enough in investigating this group!!!

287 AntonSirius  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 4:21:22am

re: #155 Dark_Falcon

The kind of BS you’d expect from the daughter of San Fran Nan. Manages to come off as anti-male and anti=tradition at the same time.

Pale stale males in Ohio.

288 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 4:24:36am

re: #283 HAL2010

And The Guardian continues to label him a “whistle blower”, not a thief.

289 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 4:25:31am

Guess Who?

290 sattv4u2  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 4:26:19am

re: #289 Proud Harpy

Guess Who?

let me use “These Eyes” to help me

Youtube Video

291 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 4:27:51am

Old Man dog up all night crying and vomiting.

Cat Overlord decided he needed as much attention.

you?

292 sattv4u2  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 4:29:42am

re: #291 Proud Harpy

Old Man dog up all night crying and vomiting.

Cat Overlord decided he needed as much attention.

you?

Neither

293 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 4:30:24am

re: #275 goddamnedfrank

People almost never read the Terms of Service to their cellphone plans or the various online services they use, like Facebook. So maybe it never occurred to many of them that they willingly gave all their information to multinational telecoms a long time ago. Still, this new definition of “secrecy” intrigues me, the one where all that “private” data is known only to the user, the telecom, and whatever international marketing conglomerates that want to pay for it. So the idea that governments couldn’t or shouldn’t see it seems so naïve that I can’t even think of an adjective that properly conveys the sheer enormity of that naïveté.

Which isn’t to say that there aren’t obvious problems with the Patriot Act and the way the FISA courts seem to be operating, there are. The most glaring apparently being the complete lack of any opposing counsel, no “devil’s advocate” if you will, so that there’s nobody to appeal a ruling and therefore effectively no higher court of review.

Yeah, maybe it’s just my nature, or my paranoid WWII era parents. I assumed any privacy was gone once I decided I would get an ATM card.

294 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 4:32:09am

re: #274 Justanotherhuman

More pale stale males in Ohio: Image: original.jpg

Women will remember!

Let’s see. How long before a Roe v Wade challenge is accepted by the Supreme Court?

What will voter demographics be by then.

How many more people of color will be disenfranchised and how are they going to try to do the same to white women?

295 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 4:32:57am

re: #292 sattv4u2

Neither

lucky

296 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 4:34:07am

Sign seen at Austin, TX rally yesterday…

Payback is a bitch—and she votes: Image: original.jpg

297 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 4:37:13am

re: #296 Justanotherhuman

Sign seen at Austin, TX rally yesterday…

Payback is a bitch—and she votes: Image: original.jpg

I fully expect to see some attempts to change that. I don’t think redistricting would work.

They’ll probably try some legislation making having a missed period a felony.

keep ‘em poor, keep ‘em dependent and most of all keep ‘em scared.

298 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 4:39:19am

others are now awake in the household for the animals to bother.

I’m going back to bed.

have a wonderful morning all!

299 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 4:40:20am

re: #257 Sol Berdinowitz

I don’t like abortion either, but the best way to reduce abortion is to help mothers find ways to keep and raise their children: more maternity leave, lower chilldbearing and childrearing costs, etc. women avoid getting pregnant in the first place.

ftfy

300 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 4:42:06am

re: #267 Cresttwo

Go fuck yourself.

301 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 4:42:08am

re: #299 Vicious Babushka

ftfy

OK, I hit refresh.

NO BODY LIKES ABORTION.

bbl

302 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 4:42:36am

re: #300 Vicious Babushka

Go fuck yourself.

I love Baba in the morning.

303 HAL2010  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 4:42:44am


Things are happening very quickly.

304 sattv4u2  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 4:43:29am

re: #295 Proud Harpy

lucky

Not really. Been at work since 3 p.m. yesterday afternoon (it’s currently 07:45 a.m here) and I still have over 2 hours till I leave

305 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 4:43:34am

re: #296 Justanotherhuman

Sign seen at Austin, TX rally yesterday…

Payback is a bitch—and she votes: Image: original.jpg

Men also know that they stand a lot better chance of getting laid when women are less concerned about getting knocked up.

Add that to the math and this display of conservative ideological purity is going to come around and bite the GOP right in the ass.

306 sattv4u2  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 4:45:08am

re: #303 HAL2010

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Things are happening very quickly.

The armed forces issued a 48 hour deadline for a resolution yesterday afternoon (Eastern Time). By my count, there’s just over 30 hours to go

307 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 4:46:42am

re: #299 Vicious Babushka

I don’t like abortion either, but the best way to reduce abortion is to help mothers find ways to keep and raise their children: more maternity leave, lower chilldbearing and childrearing costs, etc. women avoid getting pregnant in the first place.

And remember, no form of birth control (except abstinence) is 100%, and there is always user failure…

308 HAL2010  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 4:56:00am
309 HAL2010  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 4:58:18am
310 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 5:01:52am

re: #308 HAL2010

Egyptian Prime Minister Hisham Qandil has reportedly submitted his resignation, Al Arabiya correspondent reports

That’s what Mursi gets for burning the Qandil at both ends!

311 jonhendry  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 5:07:27am

re: #307 Sol Berdinowitz

“And remember, no form of birth control (except abstinence) is 100%, and there is always user failure…”

User failure is especially a problem with abstinence. We *know* that. Humans are terrible at abstinence, especially when alcohol is available.

At least birth control pills, IUDs, and implants (and reversible vasectomies!) can be utilized while sober and alert, well ahead of any temptation.

312 HAL2010  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 5:09:59am
313 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 5:10:04am

My son is interviewed on NBC News, in a do-over of their disastrous O’Keefing of him in a previous segment.

314 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 5:14:12am

re: #311 jonhendry

User failure is especially a problem with abstinence. We *know* that. Humans are terrible at abstinence, especially when alcohol is available.

Yes, two million years of biology is not going to be more than held back a bit by two thousand year’s worth of morality…

And we all know that the reproductive system has the ability to override the logic centers of the brain, especially when the latter are suppressed by alcohol.

315 HAL2010  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 5:14:42am
316 Flounder  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 5:20:25am

Unfortunately this Fourth of July will be a soggy one for upstate NY
timesunion.com

and more rain on the way.

I would like to wish all Lizards a happy Fourth and if you are traveling have a safe trip!

Me? taking the family to drown some worms and let the dogs run free, hopefully they won’t come back!
/

317 sattv4u2  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 5:24:54am

re: #316 Flounder

Unfortunately this Fourth of July will be a soggy one for upstate NY

Same is forecast here in Atlanta

Me? taking the family to drown some worms and let the dogs run free

Me? Working until 10 a.m., then have to be back at 10 p.m, so between travel from work (to home), sleeping, getting ready to travel to work, won’t be much celebrating for me

let the dogs run free, hopefully they won’t come back!

Send them here. We have two but always room for more (we “foster” all the time)

318 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 5:26:22am

We are actually looking forward to a nice weekend for weather in Germany, will be post-celebrating with all my expat buddies on the 6th in Bacharach

319 HAL2010  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 5:34:06am


320 Lidane  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 5:35:58am

Hahahahaha:

321 HAL2010  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 5:36:49am

re: #320 Lidane

Epic. Sure she has no idea what it actually did.

322 HAL2010  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 5:37:57am
323 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 5:39:54am

re: #322 HAL2010

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Rats from a sinking ship.

324 steve_davis  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 5:40:07am

re: #57 NJDhockeyfan

re: #99 Backwoods_Sleuth

wait just a minute!!!! There is an entire “dark continent” missing from that list…
I smell something suspiciously like c*****r elitism…

The pluranational state of Bolivia? That sounds like a country from a Seaquest episode. Or maybe a Mission Impossible episode where the ruler looks remarkably like Leonard Nimoy all dudded up.

325 ProTARDISLiberal  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 5:52:42am

I noticed Channel 4 over in the UK is going to be broadcasting the Call to Prayer during Ramadan to actively provoke the bigots in that country.

326 twisty  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 5:57:23am

re: #311 jonhendry

Good points all, and a person practicing abstinence with iron self-control can also sadly be raped. So really, not even that is 100%.

327 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 5:57:36am

re: #325 ProTARDISLiberal

I noticed Channel 4 over in the UK is going to be broadcasting the Call to Prayer during Ramadan to actively provoke the bigots in that country.

Watching an episode of “Blackadder” with Rowan Atkinson and Hugh laurie, talking about the causes of WWI, the Hugh laurie character cites “Germany’s colonial ambitions” as one.

To which Blackadder replies, “Britain has an empire that covers a qharter of the globe. The German empire consists of a small sausage factory in Tanganyika.”

Now a lot of residents of former Imperial possessions have come home to roost in the UK, and brought their Gentoo and Musselmanic religions with them.

Fair play, I say…

328 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 5:59:35am

re: #326 twisty

Good points all, and a person practicing abstinence with iron self-control can also sadly be raped. So really, not even that is 100%.

A person capable of seeing clear to an exception for rape or incest is someone capable of reasoning and seeing morality as gradations on a scale and legislation as a human endeavor.

But the fundamentalists see and think in moral absolutes, there is no arguing with them, we can only hope to limit the damage they can do to us…

329 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 6:08:17am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Some parts are cleaning up after yesterday’s storms, which not only caused local flooding, but a tornado touched down across 3 towns in NJ, and straight line winds or microbursts or a tornado caused damage in CT and NY. Pretty wild weather that caused cancellation of local fireworks displays, but thankfully no one was injured in any of the wild weather.

Today’s forecast is putting the bad weather further inland - meaning that parts of central NY, Catskills, and western NJ and Eastern PA are under the gun - along with ongoing flooding concerns that have brought disaster declarations once again.

Oh, and the hot weather persists out West.

Meanwhile, events in Egypt are progressing rapidly, and Morsi’s running out of options to remain in power. His best chance is to call for early elections, allow himself to stay on as a caretaker government, and hope that the MB and Islamists can organize better than reformers and moderates to hold on power.

For the moderates in Egypt, they’ve got to do more than demand change. They’ve got to organize better to deliver on the promises - starting first with a GOTV that delivers the Parliament and presidency into reformer hands. Then, they’ve got to make sure that they put someone experienced in charge of trying to turn around the economy. It wont be easy, and it wont happen overnight, but starting with clearing out long time corruption needs to be a priority.

That’s key to stabilizing the sociopolitical situation there. But perhaps just as important is revising the constitution to make sure that the military is truly subservient and answerable to the civilian government.

That’s a far harder task, especially when you see that Egypt’s modern history is determined by the army’s allegiances - Nasser to Sadat to Mubarak to the Morsi regime. All were the result of coups, juntas, or failing relationships with the military leadership.

Now, they’re signalling that they are dissatisfied with Morsi, and the protests grow knowing that the military is not going to crack down on behalf of Morsi.

330 HAL2010  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 6:12:44am

Max Abrahams, a member of the council of foreign relations just followed me on twitter.
Awesome.

331 HAL2010  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 6:17:19am

Should point out that it means I now have a grand total of 27 followers.
But still. I’m happy for myself.

332 London_Calling  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 6:19:38am

re: #320 Lidane

As a Brit, I’m not big on banning people from coming to the UK. For Geller, though, I’m prepared to make an exception.

333 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 6:19:44am

re: #331 HAL2010

Should point out that it means I now have a grand total of 27 followers.
But still. I’m happy for myself.

Follow @viciousbabushka and I will follow you back.

334 HAL2010  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 6:19:59am
335 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 6:23:40am
336 HAL2010  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 6:26:57am

re: #333 Vicious Babushka

Already following! @franzen86

337 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 6:31:49am
338 A Mom Anon  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 6:33:34am

re: #313 Vicious Babushka

He’s awesome. Not much more to say. I wish I had met religious leadership like that when I was younger.

339 HAL2010  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 6:34:41am
340 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 6:36:10am

Meanwhile, in just a short time, millions of pilgrims will descend on Saudi Arabia to join in the Hajj. That’s even as the country is struggling to assess the severity of a new disease outbreak that could make SARS look like the common cold: MERS. With modern travel allowing people to sweep around the world in hours, pilgrims could unwittingly return home and spread this disease to the far corners of the planet and that’s got epidemiologists and public health specialists worried. A lot.

This fall, millions of devout Muslims will descend upon Mecca, Medina, and Saudi Arabia’s holy sites in one of the largest annual migrations in human history. In 2012, approximately 6 million pilgrims came through Saudi Arabia to perform the rituals associated with umrah, and this number is predicted to rise in 2013. Umrah literally means “to visit a populated place,” and it’s the very proximity that has health officials so worried. In Mecca alone, millions of pilgrims will fulfill the religious obligation of circling the Kaaba. And having a large group of people together in a single, fairly confined space threatens to turn the holiest site in Islam into a massive petri dish.

The disease is still mysterious. Little is understood about how it is transmitted and even less regarding its origins. But we do know that MERS is deadly, with a mortality rate of about 55 percent — a remarkably higher lethality than that posed by its close cousin, the severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) virus, which in 2003 terrified travelers across the globe but posed a fatality rate of only 9.6 percent. The MERS coronavirus is new to our species, so mild and asymptomatic infections seem to be rare, but the human immune response to infection is itself so extreme that it can prove deadly in some cases.

Like SARS, the MERS virus spreads between people via close contact, shared medical instruments, and coughing. Once inside the human lung, the MERS virus sparks a series of reactions that all but destroy normal lung function. Patients can descend into pneumonia so severe that they require machine-assisted breathing to stay alive, in as little as 12 days. Unlike SARS, the MERS virus is also capable of attacking the kidneys and can be passed on to others via exposure to contaminated urine. And for some of those who survive acute MERS, years of rehabilitation may be necessary, just like for some of the 2003 SARS victims.

And like back in 2003, when health officials worried about airplane travelers in confined spaces transmitting the virus across the globe, the hajj poses a unique risk of transmission, one that could catapult this still-small outbreak into a full-fledged pandemic. Containment will become nearly impossible as millions of pilgrims flock from virtually every country on the globe to the kingdom during the holy month. Indeed, MERS has already crossed continents; two suspected cases were reported in France as recently as June 12, and confirmed cases have been reported in Germany and Britain. The first patient in each of these cases had traveled in the Middle East before reaching his/her home destination, only then to be diagnosed with MERS.

MERS is a new and novel disease, but it’s hardly the only one experts are worried about. Saudi officials are also seriously concerned about the spread of polio, which while not natively present in the country, could be imported from those few remaining countries that have ongoing outbreaks. That could result in a spike of new cases in places that have eradicated the disease - and vaccination in these remaining places is tough because of a number of anti-vax rumors and conspiracies that run rampant.

341 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 6:40:13am

re: #340 lawhawk

Saudi Arabia has been strangely safe from the political bugs that have been rampant in the Middle East…

342 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 6:41:46am

re: #341 Sol Berdinowitz

They’ve exported all the radicals. /half joking

343 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 6:43:04am

If anything gets a laugh out of me, watching the Zimmerman trial live, it’s watching old men try to help each other figure out modern technology. You can almost hear them saying “How do you work this damned thing?”

344 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 6:43:40am

DERP. NSA IZ READIN UR TWEETS U MORAN.

345 HAL2010  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 6:44:17am

re: #341 Sol Berdinowitz

Friends of mine live in Bahrian, and they get essentially NO news out of Saudi Arabia. Despite living no more than a small bridge from the country.

Saudi is almost as closed to the media as North Korea.

346 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 6:44:46am

re: #344 Vicious Babushka

DERP. NSA IZ READIN UR TWEETS U MORAN.

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Only to be foiled by an armored vehicle.

347 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 6:45:24am

re: #344 Vicious Babushka

DERP. NSA IZ READIN UR TWEETS U MORAN.

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“Yeah, well I want a pony, but we don’t all get what we want”

348 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 6:47:12am

re: #347 Targetpractice

Oh Veruca..

Youtube Video

349 Bulworth  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 6:51:21am

re: #344 Vicious Babushka

Another Troubled Heart….who needs moar gunz

350 HAL2010  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 6:54:38am
351 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 6:56:38am

re: #350 HAL2010

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“Freebird!”

/Sorry, force of habit.

352 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 6:57:04am

1 Question. Does someone this stupid type out his own Tweets or does his caregiver do that for him?

353 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 6:57:39am

re: #345 HAL2010

Friends of mine live in Bahrian, and they get essentially NO news out of Saudi Arabia. Despite living no more than a small bridge from the country.

Saudi is almost as closed to the media as North Korea.

Egypt has no oil. Egypt has tourism. If Islamists are in power, the tourist industry is dead.

Saudi Arabia has oil, as long as the Royal Family controls that and can keep the population quiet and happy, they will remain in power.

354 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 6:59:47am

re: #352 Vicious Babushka

1 Question. Does someone this stupid type out his own Tweets or does his caregiver do that for him?

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Please spare us these honkers. There are limits to how much stupid a thread can take without being infected by it…

355 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:00:32am

re: #354 Sol Berdinowitz

Please spare us these honkers. There are limits to how much stupid a thread can take without being infected by it…

I only present the choicest morsels of Derp.

356 HAL2010  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:00:45am
357 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:01:09am

re: #348 lawhawk

Oh Veruca..

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Bah, won’t play for me.

Saw them open for Courtney Love & Hole once upon a long time ago, a year or so after Cobain’s suicide. Strange strange night ;) One of the best and wierdest punk shows of my life.

OTOH X was much better the three times I’ve seen them.

358 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:01:48am

re: #337 Vicious Babushka

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Jeez, I thought we (AL) were the exception. Think Saban is still the highest paid.

359 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:01:56am

re: #354 Sol Berdinowitz

U NEED A KITTEH

360 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:02:40am

re: #359 Vicious Babushka

U NEED A KITTEH

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Insulin….*thud*

361 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:02:54am
362 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:03:17am

re: #355 Vicious Babushka

I only present the choicest morsels of Derp.

If your captures are being forwarded more widely, it’s a service.

363 Gus  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:03:42am

Spidey sense tingling.

364 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:04:25am

Subtle.
/

365 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:06:29am

re: #361 BruceMajors4DC

What you boys are tired of using the NSA, DOJ and IRS to do your dirty work?

Que?

366 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:07:17am

re: #365 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Que?

Click his nic. All will be explained.
;)

367 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:08:48am

Libertarians who support social cons.
Lol.

368 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:09:08am

re: #365 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Que?

We are graced by a public figure asshole.

washingtonpost.com

369 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:09:29am

re: #366 Varek Raith

Hee hee.

Charles Johnson is the producer of the blog Little Green Footballs, that makes Rachel Maddow look like a crack researcher. I don’t really ever read it.

Let me tell you all about this place I don’t read.

370 Gus  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:10:50am

re: #368 Decatur Deb

We are graced by a public figure asshole.

washingtonpost.com

Shouldn’t that be an asshole?

371 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:11:25am

re: #370 Gus

Shouldn’t that be an asshole?

Freaking grammar nazi.

372 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:11:46am

re: #370 Gus

Shouldn’t that be an asshole?

I work within the constraints of the medium.

373 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:12:52am

re: #370 Gus

Shouldn’t that be an asshole?

There are two schools of thought on this. The simplest way is to just use ‘an’ in front of any word that starts with a vowel.

But the actual origination of an comes from using ‘a’ with words that started with an ‘n’. So, ‘orange’ used to be ‘norange’. The ‘n’ get moved over to the ‘a’ after awhile. So, some weirdos (like me) try to only use ‘an’ when it connects to one of those words. Asshole isn’t one of them, and if you say it out loud it actually sounds more appropriate to say ‘a asshole’. To me.

374 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:13:02am

re: #361 BruceMajors4DC

Pool on how long this sock lasts?

I’ll take 2 hours.

375 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:13:14am
376 twisty  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:13:37am

re: #366 Varek Raith

Always tickled pink by people who sincerely believe being banned from a website is censorship.

377 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:14:24am
378 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:14:28am

re: #375 BruceMajors4DC

Hey, why did you take out the link in your nic?
;)

379 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:15:10am
380 Gus  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:15:12am

littlegreenfootballs.com

Derp.

381 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:15:15am

re: #371 Varek Raith

Freaking grammar nazi.

I’m a grammar anarchist. And to savagely attack the brittle facade of grammar rules is where I’m coming from.

382 Joanne  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:15:25am

re: #256 EdDantes

I am conflicted on this. Generally, I am opposed to abortion. My personal exceptions are rape, incest and the life of the mother. Modern medical care today allows viability outside the womb to extend to babies who would have died a few decades ago. I’m certainly not a theocrat but I do not take abortion lightly.

And that is an opinion you are welcome to have, and to have discussions concerning it with a woman who you impregnate. You cannot, however, be involved in any decision that I have with the man who might impregnate me. And this is where the wheat meets the chaff. I do not tell you that you cannot watch porn. I am offended by people who engage in risky behavior, but I am not telling you to not skydive. I am offended by people who have no sense of humor but I am not telling you that you must go to reeducation camps to learn how to smile.

And what is worse than having someone else determine my financial future, is that those same people who want to force me to give birth, want to take away all of the help I might need before and after I spit that baby out. Who is going to pay the thousands of dollars to provide prenatal care and delivery medical charges? Who is going to help me feed that baby? Who is going to ensure that I have a job after I am recuperating from giving birth? What if something goes wrong with my body and I need healthcare after the fact? Who is going to pay for that?

As far as adoption, why do I have to become an incubator for someone else to raise the child I have been forced to give birth to? That only indicates to me that my only worth is that of a baby machine.

I am sorry, but if you have opinions concerning the body of someone you are not involved with…why should that matter? If you are not intimately involved with my vagina, you cannot determine how and what it does or does not do.

383 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:15:27am

re: #376 twisty

Always tickled pink by people who sincerely believe being banned from a website is censorship.

Or pulling sponsorhip for making outrageous comments…

384 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:15:35am

re: #377 BruceMajors4DC

Need some tutoring eh? I don’t see any social cons in this story, nor any libertarians supporting them. This appears to be an ant hive. Yawn.

Heh, nice try.
See, I went to your blog.
So, yeah.
To the FEMA Camps with ye!

385 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:15:35am

re: #375 BruceMajors4DC

So something that has been going on for decades finally bothers you? Or is it only because there’s a non-white president now? You know, like how the Teabaggers only got upset with the deficit after the white president who caused it was out of power?

386 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:15:54am

re: #381 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

I’m a grammar anarchist. And to savagely attack the brittle facade of grammar rules is where I’m coming from.

sucks. Syntax

387 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:16:12am
388 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:16:33am

re: #375 BruceMajors4DC

There are indeed lots of assholes here. Or cretins. Overall this community seems to think flatbreads and the Zimmerman trial have something to do with the NSA violating the Bill of Rights.

Did I miss a flatbread conversation? Dammit.

Can I ask why you’re suddenly so up in arms about the 4th, when the 4th has been eroded for decades and decades and decades? Have you been this up in arms about ‘stop and frisk’ and profiling of Muslims?

389 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:17:08am

re: #370 Gus

Shouldn’t that be an asshole?

That’s a retread about to be blocked (again).

390 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:17:32am

re: #387 BruceMajors4DC

Take personal responsibility for your comments.
You got banned for a reason. What was it? What did you post?

391 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:18:02am

re: #381 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

I’m a grammar anarchist. And to savagely attack the brittle facade of grammar rules is where I’m coming from.

Black Bric

392 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:18:09am

re: #387 BruceMajors4DC

Oh it’s not censorship. But in this case it is a measure of pussydom and cowardice.

The thing is, you’re not making anything like a substantial critique. If you bothered to take your time and write out a long post about why you think the Snowden affair is a very important 4th amendment matter, it wouldn’t get downdinged, and it wouldn’t get deleted, and you wouldn’t get banned for it.

So why not do that? Sparing the personal invective and the accusations of hive-mindedness, why not make your case rationally with as much conviction and persuasion as you can muster?

393 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:19:20am

re: #392 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

The thing is, you’re not making anything like a substantial critique. If you bothered to take your time and write out a long post about why you think the Snowden affair is a very important 4th amendment matter, it wouldn’t get downdinged, and it wouldn’t get deleted, and you wouldn’t get banned for it.

So why not do that? Sparing the personal invective and the accusations of hive-mindedness, why not make your case rationally with as much conviction and persuasion as you can muster?

Objection, facts not in evidence, counsel speculating that the troll has an IQ above room temp.

394 twisty  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:19:27am

re: #387 BruceMajors4DC

I’m referring to the sentence on your blog that says, “censored me from posting there.”

395 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:19:50am

re: #392 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Not to mention making a very sexist statement.

396 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:20:14am

HAHAHA.
You’re the guy who’s afraid of DC Metro?
I use it all the time.
OOGA BOOGA!

397 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:20:36am

re: #396 Varek Raith

HAHAHA.
Your the guy who’s afraid of DC Metro?
I use it all the time.
OOGA BOOGA!

You use the DC Metro? How’s the ghoul problem these days?

//

398 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:20:53am

re: #388 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Did I miss a flatbread conversation? Dammit.

Can I ask why you’re suddenly so up in arms about the 4th, when the 4th has been erodes for decades and decades and decades? Have you been this up in arms about ‘stop and frisk’ and profiling of Muslims?

I got lost somewhere around ‘flatbread’. That’s a real pita.

399 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:22:03am

re: #398 Decatur Deb

I got lost somewhere around ‘flatbread’. That’s a real pita.

That crackers me up.

400 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:22:37am

re: #398 Decatur Deb

I got lost somewhere around ‘flatbread’. That’s a real pita.

Seriously if you’ve never had American Indian frybread, of various descriptions, try some. It’s great.

401 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:22:40am

re: #399 William Barnett-Lewis

That crackers me up.

Wasa matter with libertarians?

402 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:23:33am

Really? Bread puns?
Sigh.

403 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:23:38am

re: #400 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Seriously if you’ve never had American Indian frybread, of various descriptions, try some. It’s great.

If it’s skilletbread, it’s a form of cardiac genocide.

404 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:23:59am

re: #401 Decatur Deb

Wasa matter with libertarians?

Libertarians have the problem that they believe naan of the real-world data should override their theories.

405 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:24:13am

re: #402 Varek Raith

Really? Bread puns?
Sigh.

Boob pun staff doesn’t clock in until noon.

406 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:24:15am

re: #402 Varek Raith

Really? Bread puns?
Sigh.

Careful now, they might break out the toaster puns. Then we’re done for.

/

407 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:24:19am
408 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:25:01am

re: #403 Decatur Deb

If it’s skilletbread, it’s a form of cardiac genocide.

There’s a few varieties, my favorites are a pretty non-calorific kind that’s main niftiness comes from the cooking technique of indirect radiant heat— it’s cooked on flat stones that are angled up next to the fire.

409 Gus  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:25:20am

This guy is boring.

410 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:25:56am

re: #409 Gus

This guy is boring.

Seriously. Deb, knock it off with the puns!
Oh you meant…
/

411 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:26:06am

re: #407 BruceMajors4DC

Obama was barley mentioned, though I suppose the boys and girls here would be hurt that David Gregory was criticized, or any of the other Obushma flunkies whom you idolize and wish you were.

You really don’t have a good feel for the room. Gregory is a RW pimp.

412 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:26:12am

re: #407 BruceMajors4DC

Hey, again, that really wasn’t a very substantial post, just a random attack on the entirety of the posters here.

What is preventing you from making actual arguments instead of just derping around? What do you think you gain from telling everyone here they’re flunkies?

Honestly curious. Does this just make you feel good or something?

413 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:26:36am

re: #407 BruceMajors4DC

Oh, and fuck David Gregory.

414 efuseakay  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:27:20am

re: #315 HAL2010

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Jim Hoft, this is what a throng looks like.

415 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:27:37am

re: #408 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

There’s a few varieties, my favorites are a pretty non-calorific kind that’s main niftiness comes from the cooking technique of indirect radiant heat— it’s cooked on flat stones that are angled up next to the fire.

I’m thinking of the deep-dish reservation food—about equal parts of surplus flour and lard.

416 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:28:43am

Obushma?
Amused, I am.

417 efuseakay  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:29:23am

re: #407 BruceMajors4DC

Obama was barley mentioned, though I suppose the boys and girls here would be hurt that David Gregory was criticized, or any of the other Obushma flunkies whom you idolize and wish you were.

David Gregory has been to Iraq. What have you done with your life?

418 Gus  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:29:49am

re: #416 Varek Raith

Obushma?
Amused, I am.

Flunkies!

[Throws stick.]

419 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:30:04am

re: #414 efuseakay

Jim Hoft, this is what a throng looks like.

Am I trite or am I throng?

420 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:30:12am

re: #416 Varek Raith

Obushma?
Amused, I am.

Chickamatsu Obushma, great Noh play writer—the Shakespeare of Japan.

421 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:30:46am

re: #418 Gus

Flunkies!

[Throws stick.]

Ow! Watch where you’re throwing stuff!

//

422 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:30:58am

re: #419 Sol Berdinowitz

Am I trite or am I throng?

Damn. I thought he said ‘thong’.

423 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:31:08am

The moonbats at raw story are fapping away over GG’s appearance on Foxtard: rawstory.com

424 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:32:53am

re: #419 Sol Berdinowitz

Am I trite or am I throng?

If you’re throng, than who is legion?

425 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:33:35am

re: #420 Decatur Deb

Chickamatsu Obushma, great Noh play writer—the Shakespeare of Japan.

Japanese person to Western audience member with puzzled expression:

Just which part of Noh do you not understand?

426 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:34:08am

re: #424 Feline Fearless Leader

If you’re throng, than who is legion?

I pledge a legion…

427 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:34:24am

re: #424 Feline Fearless Leader

If you’re throng, than who is legion?

I am legion, for we are many.

//

428 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:35:24am

re: #413 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Oh, and fuck David Gregory.

I second that.

429 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:35:36am

re: #427 Targetpractice

I am legion, for we are many.

//

Many the moocher?

430 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:36:10am

re: #387 BruceMajors4DC

Oh it’s not censorship. But in this case it is a measure of pussydom and cowardice.

Brucie is another teatard/professional victim. File this under: ‘Shocking’

431 Weet  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:36:21am

re: #382 Joanne

And that is an opinion you are welcome to have, and to have discussions concerning it with a woman who you impregnate.

Thanks, Joanne. I would like to add that EdDantes should refrain from publishing his moralizing opinions until he has done some research. Only 1.6% of abortions are performed after 20 weeks, and the vast majority are due to severe health complications of the fetus or the mother. Wendy Davis detailed scores of women’s personal stories in her filibuster last week, some of which detailed late-term experiences. Ed should watch the video and inform himself.

A member of my family chose to carry a dead fetus rather than abort. Months later, the miscarriage almost killed her, and she can no longer have any children. For most late-term abortions, the decision is not made lightly, and it is usually heartbreaking for the parents.

Ed, the way that you stated your opinions truly shows a lack of knowledge about the subject, and a failure to separate fact from your own personal theocratic beliefs. Neither you, nor anyone else, has the right to tell me what to do with my uterus. Full stop.

432 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:36:28am

re: #429 Sol Berdinowitz

Many the moocher?

Think you mean Manny, the macher—he was a good guy.

433 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:36:45am

Heh, I love when social cons call themselves libertarians.

434 twisty  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:38:45am

re: #433 Varek Raith

Liberty for me and none for thee.

435 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:38:52am

re: #433 Varek Raith

Heh, I love when social cons call themselves libertarians.

“I’m all for people’s rights…just so long as their rights are in accordance with the Bible!”

436 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:38:55am

re: #432 Decatur Deb

Think you mean Manny, the macher—he was a good guy.

Or Manny, the guy who outfitted Joseph with his coat of Manny’s crullers

437 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:39:15am

re: #434 twisty

Liberty for me and none for thee.

Hey, a new person!
Get them!
;)

438 efuseakay  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:39:26am

re: #422 Decatur Deb

Damn. I thought he said ‘thong’.

Damn autocorrect!

439 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:39:30am

re: #433 Varek Raith

Heh, I love when social cons call themselves libertarians.

With his approach to public discourse, I’m surprised he didn’t get elected.

440 Bulworth  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:40:52am

re: #423 Dr. Matt

If Snowden had leaked to GG in a GOP admin Fox and Fiends would be calling for his arrest and detention at Gitmo.

441 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:41:26am

re: #438 efuseakay

Damn autocorrect!

Have ever spelled a word so horrendously bad that auto correct failed?

442 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:41:32am

re: #437 Varek Raith

Hey, a new person!
Get them!
;)

It’s how we maintain herd vitality.

443 twisty  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:41:51am

re: #437 Varek Raith

Hey, a new person!
Get them!
;)

Just the kind of vile censorship I’ve been told to expect from LGF! //

444 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:42:09am

re: #442 Decatur Deb

It’s how we maintain herd vitality.

Herd?
No.
This is a hive. Some guy said so.

445 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:42:52am
446 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:43:23am

re: #444 Varek Raith

Herd?
No.
This is a hive. Some guy said so.

Not a collective?

447 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:43:26am

re: #444 Varek Raith

Herd?
No.
This is a hive. Some guy said so.

He was confused by Charles’ “I Hive a Dream” column.

448 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:43:59am

re: #445 BruceMajors4DC

Yep, can’t possibly see why you guys can’t get minority votes.
No sirree!

449 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:44:21am

re: #445 BruceMajors4DC

Boy, it’s really apparent you don’t read here, because the change of the Republicans and Democrats positions over time is something that gets covered all the time here.

Why on earth do you think that the Democrats of the 1800s have any connection with the Democrats of today?

You’re really bad at this.

450 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:44:26am

re: #446 Targetpractice

Not a collective?

I am my own collective.

451 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:44:50am

re: #440 Bulworth

If Snowden had leaked to GG in a GOP admin Fox and Fiends would be calling for his arrest and detention at Gitmo.

Yup. Exactly. They would have been calling in every wingnut in their arsenal to demand his head on a platter.

452 Gus  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:45:22am

re: #448 Varek Raith

Yep, can’t possibly see why you guys can’t get minority votes.
No sirree!

The hills are alive! With the sound of music.

[Twirls.]

453 Gus  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:45:45am


[It was this big!]

454 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:45:57am

re: #445 BruceMajors4DC

I see some of you are even speaking about the slave trade without any cognizance of your place in that legacy.

The slave trade was driven by Southern Conservatives. True story.

455 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:46:33am

The vast majority of us here are very much aware of what the parties were pre Civil Rights. Thing is, we also know what they evolved in to after the Civil Rights era. Kind of important, that last bit.

456 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:46:57am
457 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:47:03am

re: #454 Dr. Matt

The slave trade was driven by Southern Conservatives. True story.

Shockingly, a lot of northerners profited from it too, the ship-owners. Some of them were even hypocritical Quakers!

Therefore all black people should vote Republican.

458 Wile E. Wonka  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:47:18am

re: #407 BruceMajors4DC

Obama was barley mentioned

Downding for the strawman reasoning, oh-so-clever “Obushma” conflation, and general contentlessness.

Upding for participating in the pun thread.

I know it makes me a bad person, but I dough love puns.

459 Joanne  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:47:19am

re: #301 Proud Harpy

OK, I hit refresh.

NO BODY LIKES ABORTION.

Actually, I couldn’t give a shit about a bunch of cells.

I care about the woman who has to carry them.

I care about whether a child will have a home where it will not have to spend years being hungry.

I care about whether both the woman and child will have a safe environment and not be virtually forced into being with someone who might not want the woman or the child.

I care about a lot of things. Abortion is not one of them.

460 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:47:29am

re: #435 Targetpractice

“I’m all for people’s rights…just so long as their rights are in accordance with my narrow-minded, selective, misogynistic and bigoted interpretation of the Bible!”

FTFY

461 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:48:00am

re: #456 BruceMajors4DC

Yes, I am sure he in Iceland ‘using routers’.

Why can’t you actually respond to any criticism of your posts? Wouldn’t you think that’s a good skill to have if you want to be taken seriously?

462 Bulworth  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:48:36am

re: #457 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Therefore all black people should vote Republican.

And then GOPteabaggers would stop trying to take away their votes. //

463 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:48:37am

re: #361 BruceMajors4DC

What you boys are tired of using the NSA, DOJ and IRS to do your dirty work?

You’re right we should get BlackWater (or whatever the fuck their name is now) to do the dirty work. That is how the “smart” dictators do it, right?

464 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:48:56am
465 darthstar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:49:00am

Mornin’ everyone…just heard the great news!

466 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:49:27am

re: #458 Wile E. Wonka

Image: pew-pew-pew.jpg
/Puns are bad.
;)

467 darthstar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:49:43am

re: #453 Gus

The tuxedo behind him still looks to be in shock.

468 Gus  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:49:44am

re: #465 darthstar

Mornin’ everyone…just heard the great news!

[Embedded content]

Derp.

469 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:49:49am

re: #454 Dr. Matt

The slave trade was driven by Southern Conservatives. True story.

My part in the slave trade was pretty limited—to an Irishman who was dragooned into a Pennsylvania artillery unit and lobbed a couple 12 pounders in the general direction of some slaveowner’s poor stooges.

470 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:50:43am

re: #464 BruceMajors4DC

It’s amusing how many little boys think they are smarter than Snowden. Little boys who are not and never will be of any consequence.

Snowden, the genius who believes that he can keep his secrecy by putting pillow under a hotel door and using a hood when entering his passwords, but uses hotel wifi to communicate to the web?

Truly a diabolical mastermind.////

471 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:51:02am

re: #464 BruceMajors4DC

It’s amusing how many little boys think they are smarter than Snowden. Little boys who are not and never will be of any consequence.

See, like this. How is this supposed to work? As an insult it’s flaccider than a deflated seal. As a critique, it has nothing of substance to it. So it’s a weak, grade-school insult that mainly makes you look silly.

Why post it? What do you get from doing this? I sincerely don’t get it.

472 darthstar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:51:23am

re: #468 Gus

Derp.

Heh…

473 jaunte  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:51:33am

re: #470 Targetpractice

Snowden, the genius who believes that he can keep his secrecy by putting pillow under a hotel door and using a hood when entering his passwords, but uses hotel wifi to communicate to the web?

See what happens when young people are sold to the educrat cartels?

474 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:51:56am

re: #469 Decatur Deb

My part in the slave trade was pretty limited—to an Irishman who was dragooned into a Pennsylvania artillery unit and lobbed a couple 12 pounders in the general direction of some slaveowner’s poor stooges Southern patriots fighting for freedom against Northern oppression.

Dixified that fer ya…

475 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:52:12am

re: #469 Decatur Deb

My part in the slave trade was pretty limited—to an Irishman who was dragooned into a Pennsylvania artillery unit and lobbed a couple 12 pounders in the general direction of some slaveowner’s poor stooges.

The big debate in my family is whether my one Southern ancestor who was arrested (but not tried) for selling defective wheels to the Confederates is a hero who did that deliberately or just a con-man, which we have plenty of in the family tree.

476 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:52:47am

re: #456 BruceMajors4DC

Yep, we’re so dumb we can spy on every American’s emails and phone calls.
You can’t claim the Feds are dumb while at the same time attributing diabolically cunning machinations to them.
Please, pick a meme and stick with it.

477 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:53:10am

re: #475 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

The big debate in my family is whether my one Southern ancestor who was arrested (but not tried) for selling defective wheels to the Confederates is a hero who did that deliberately or just a con-man, which we have plenty of in the family tree.

If you dig deeper, you will probably find that he sold them to both sides…

478 Wile E. Wonka  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:53:15am

re: #461 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Yes, I am sure he in Iceland ‘using routers’.

Is it just me, or does Snowden remind anyone else of John Malkovitch’s character in Burn After Reading?

479 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:53:23am

re: #464 BruceMajors4DC

It’s amusing how many little boys think they are smarter than Snowden. Little boys who are not and never will be of any consequence.

Yes, a criminal fugitive living in a foreign airport is such a sign of “brilliance”. Derp

480 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:53:40am
481 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:54:12am

re: #480 BruceMajors4DC

You don’t have freedom or a country. The rulers of the country own you, and will continue taking any freedom they can without causing open revolt.

Alex Jones, is that you?

482 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:54:32am

re: #456 BruceMajors4DC

Except that he’s been in Moscow’s airport for eight, going on nine days, according to several sources — including Putin himself — and before that he was quite definitely in Hong Kong. Visual sitings, even. If he were in Iceland, then there’d be no need for all these theatrics about finding asylum somewhere.

Is it possible for you to make one comment without dinging Obama, Clinton or anybody else you don’t like?

re: #445 BruceMajors4DC

It’s funny to read a group of fairly conventional establishment Democrats talk about race, since the second biggest source of donations for your candidates, after bailed out Wall Street bankers, are the educrat cartels you sell poor black and brown kids to after you kidnap them. I see some of you are even speaking about the slave trade without any cognizance of your place in that legacy.

Just what the fuck are you talking about? What is an “educrat cartel?” Is this something normal people call “universities” or “colleges?”

483 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:54:41am

re: #479 Dr. Matt

Yes, a criminal fugitive living in a foreign airport is such a sign of “brilliance”. Derp

Obviously he’s not really there, he’s in Iceland. Putin is obviously in on the massive con.

484 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:55:22am
485 darthstar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:55:25am

Poland? India? Ireland? It appears you didn’t think this out as well as you thought, genius.

486 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:55:30am

re: #478 Wile E. Wonka

Is it just me, or does Snowden remind anyone else of John Malkovitch’s character in Burn After Reading?

We used to jokingly refer to some of our HQDA documents as “Burn Before Reading”.

487 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:55:35am

re: #472 darthstar

Heh…

[Embedded content]

AKA, the Moronic Convergence.

488 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:56:01am

re: #484 BruceMajors4DC

That’s amusing. I suspect Snowden has lived in a wider variety of countries than most LGF readers.

That’s a really easy bet to make, but living somewhere and actually understanding stuff are two different things.

489 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:56:05am

re: #478 Wile E. Wonka

Is it just me, or does Snowden remind anyone else of John Malkovitch’s character in Burn After Reading?

I don’t know about that, but Bruce here is really reminding me of Malkovitch’s character in RED.

490 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:56:33am
491 Gus  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:56:57am

Yawn.

492 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:57:04am
493 Bulworth  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:57:13am

re: #478 Wile E. Wonka

Osbourne Cox: And you’re my wife’s lover?

Ted Treffon: [shaking his head] No.

Osbourne Cox: Then what are you doing here?

[pause]

Osbourne Cox: I know you. You’re the guy from the gym.

Ted Treffon: I’m not here representing HardBodies.

Osbourne Cox: Oh, yes. I know very well what you represent.

[pause]

Osbourne Cox: You represent the idiocy of today.

Ted Treffon: No, I don’t represent that either.

Osbourne Cox: Yeah. You’re the guy at the gym when I asked about that moronic woman.

Ted Treffon: She’s not a moron.

Osbourne Cox: You’re in league with that moronic woman. You are part of a league of morons.
Ted Treffon: No. No.

Osbourne Cox: Oh, yes. You see, you’re one of the morons I’ve been fighting my whole life. My whole fucking life. But guess what… Today, I win.

[gun shot]

494 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:57:29am

re: #480 BruceMajors4DC

You don’t have freedom or a country. The rulers of the country own you, and will continue taking any freedom they can without causing open revolt.

Sort of agree on that, but you think you’re defining ‘America’ when you’re really defining ‘civilization’.

495 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:57:30am

Rebranding!

496 Gus  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:57:31am

“Liberal Democrats of the KKK.”

Derp.

497 darthstar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:57:38am

re: #482 wheat-dogghazi

Just what the fuck are you talking about? What is an “educrat cartel?” Is this something normal people call “universities” or “colleges?”

People who get all their learnin’ from the bible ain’t afraid of no educrats.

498 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:58:24am

re: #484 BruceMajors4DC

A week in HK and a week in the Moscow airport don’t exactly qualify as “living in a country.” It’s like saying I’ve been to Japan because of a four-hour layover in the airport.

I’m living in my third country. How about you?

499 Weet  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:58:48am

I’d like to understand why Sowdum is not taking the offer from Venezuela. It’s the only offer he has, reportedly.

They have broadband internet, so it seems his requirements have been met.

500 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 7:59:23am

re: #499 Weet

I’d like to understand why Sowdum is not taking the offer from Venezuela. It’s the only offer he has, reportedly.

They have broadband internet, so it seems his requirements have been met.

It’s an incredibly violent and dangerous place, by our standards, with tons of kidnappings.

501 geoffm33  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:00:07am

re: #490 BruceMajors4DC

Especially since the liberal Democrats of the KKK disarmed them with gun control.

And for your next magic trick, you’ll tell us the Martin Luther King Jr was a Republican!

502 Bulworth  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:00:39am
[last lines]

CIA Superior: What did we learn, Palmer?

CIA Officer: I don’t know, sir.

CIA Superior: I don’t fuckin’ know either. I guess we learned not to do it again.

CIA Officer: Yes, sir.

CIA Superior: I’m fucked if I know what we did.

CIA Officer: Yes, sir, it’s, uh, hard to say

CIA Superior: Jesus Fucking Christ.

503 abolitionist  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:00:42am

re: #454 Dr. Matt

The slave trade was driven by Southern Conservatives. True story.

That’s overly simplistic.
Rum and Revolution, Smuggling and Trade, Boston and the Caribbean

Because of the Tea Party, tea is the drink most associated with the War of Independence. Rum, though, deserves equal billing.
Article subheadings include:
Slaves from Africa to Work on Sugar Plantations
From Barbados to Boston with Molasses
From Boston to Africa with Rum
Tax or Duty on Imported Molasses
Rampant Smuggling

Over the years, Americans didn’t object to these laws because they were so badly enforced. Through bribes and other means, Americans merchants dodged the duties. Smuggling was rampant.

Then, in the early 1760s, Britain became especially desperate for more tax revenue in the wake of a costly war with France. Authorities tightened enforcement against smuggling. Merchants, especially those in Boston, howled. They weren’t calling for independence. They just wanted a return to the of days of lax enforcement and unfettered smuggling. But their protests ignited awareness, fostered political organization, and promoted outrage that led step by step to independence, which was finally declared in 1776.

504 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:01:04am

re: #485 darthstar

Poland? India? Ireland? It appears you didn’t think this out as well as you thought, genius.

[Embedded content]

Heh. This genius thought he could get asylum anywhere by just asking for it, finds out that the majority of the countries he really wants to go to need you to be on their soil before they can accept an asylum request. He might really wanna rethink that offer from Putin.

505 Gus  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:01:17am

re: #501 geoffm33

And for your next magic trick, you’ll tell us the Martin Luther King Jr was a Republican!

And Hitler was another famous liberal. //

506 Bulworth  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:01:26am

re: #501 geoffm33

Abe Lincoln, too!!!!!

507 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:01:27am

re: #499 Weet

I don’t know if Venezuela ever made a firm offer. There was only talk in the media about it because the Venezuelan president was visiting Moscow this week. He only said they were thinking about it.

508 Gus  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:02:04am
509 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:02:12am

re: #504 Targetpractice

Heh. This genius thought he could get asylum anywhere by just asking for it, finds out that the majority of the countries he really wants to go to need you to be on their soil before they can accept an asylum request. He might really wanna rethink that offer from Putin.

Obvious lack of research on his part is obvious.

510 Gus  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:03:04am
511 Joanne  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:03:06am

re: #423 Dr. Matt

The moonbats at raw story are fapping away over GG’s appearance on Foxtard: rawstory.com

I think I see that right/left convergence melting away.

The one thing you do not do, ever, is go on Fox and expect any support from any thinking person.

512 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:03:07am

re: #507 wheat-dogghazi

I don’t know if Venezuela ever made a firm offer. There was only talk in the media about it because the Venezuelan president was visiting Moscow this week. He only said they were thinking about it.

Best I’ve heard is that Venezuela is thinking about it, but there has been no offer. Meanwhile Ecuador has pretty much tossed his ass under the bus and HK has said he’s not welcome back.

513 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:03:14am
514 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:04:01am

re: #510 Gus

[Embedded content]

Bam!

515 darthstar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:04:28am

re: #490 BruceMajors4DC

Especially since the liberal Democrats of the KKK disarmed them with gun control.
fixed.

Whoa…where the fuck did this guy come from?

516 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:04:36am

re: #513 Dr. Matt

[Embedded content]

you forgot “5. Magnets”

517 twisty  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:04:44am

re: #482 wheat-dogghazi

What is an “educrat cartel?” Is this something normal people call “universities” or “colleges?”

It appears to mean “teacher’s unions.” How the sale of young human beings to such unions escaped news coverage is simply beyond me. /

Yes, these are people who are opposed to public schooling. Freedom!

518 Bulworth  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:04:47am

re: #510 Gus

Maybe ‘Libertarian’ is the new Tea Partier, just as Tea Partier was the new Republican. Rebranding! /

519 darthstar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:05:02am

re: #504 Targetpractice

Heh. This genius thought he could get asylum anywhere by just asking for it, finds out that the majority of the countries he really wants to go to need you to be on their soil before they can accept an asylum request. He might really wanna rethink that offer from Putin.

If he’d finished FUCKING HIGH SCHOOL he would have learned that.

520 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:05:18am

I’ll let you all in on a secret.
We spy on the Europeans.
They spy on us.
Burn this comment after reading.

521 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:05:19am

re: #510 Gus

Good Dog, Brucie is a bonafide Snowden fanboy. Priceless.

522 Gus  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:05:35am

re: #514 Varek Raith

Bam!

That’s our morning buddy Bruce she’s responding to.

523 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:05:48am

re: #520 Varek Raith

I’ll let you all in on a secret.
We spy on the Europeans.
They spy on us.
Burn this comment after reading.

Wait, countries spy on each other? How long have you been hiding this from us?!

//

524 piratedan  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:06:19am

re: #515 darthstar

fixed.

Whoa…where the fuck did this guy come from?

wrong turn at Albuquerque….he was on his way to the secret White Supremacists lair in Idaho

525 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:06:26am

re: #520 Varek Raith

I’ll let you all in on a secret.
We spy on the Europeans.
They spy on us.
Burn this comment after reading.

The job of the NSA is to do to other countries what the CIA is trying to keep other countries from doing to us…

526 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:06:34am

We know they know we spy on them.
They know we know they spy on us.
Mind=Blown.

527 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:06:59am

re: #509 Varek Raith

He could put an advert on craigslist.

ASYLUM WANTED: Sysadmin with secret documents wishes safe harbor in any country that will take him without a valid passport. Must have Internet access. Please reply ASAP, capsule hotel, Moscow airport.

528 darthstar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:07:12am

re: #519 darthstar

If he’d finished FUCKING HIGH SCHOOL he would have learned that.

Figured that needed to be put into a tweet.


529 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:07:14am

Why is Brucie still obsessing over the IRS? Hasn’t the news reached him that Issa’s witch hunt has been embarrassing derailed?

530 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:08:38am

re: #524 piratedan

wrong turn at Albuquerque….he was on his way to the secret White Supremacists lair in Idaho

Thought he was heading to Pismo Beach.

531 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:08:52am

No one ever plans their escape.
Silly fools.

532 Bulworth  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:09:05am

re: #529 Dr. Matt

If the Northern Tea Party Patriots Front of Southeastern Texas had been granted tax-exempt status, Romney would have won. /

533 Joanne  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:09:06am

re: #478 Wile E. Wonka

Is it just me, or does Snowden remind anyone else of John Malkovitch’s character in Burn After Reading?

And Greenwald is the character John Malkovitch plays in Red. /

534 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:09:22am

While the rest of you are dealing with Teh Stupids I will go and add a bunch of engineers to Sharepoint groups.

535 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:10:24am

re: #532 Bulworth

And don’t forget:ACORNzzzzz!!!!!!!

536 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:10:34am

re: #445 BruceMajors4DC

It’s funny to read a group of fairly conventional establishment Democrats talk about race, since the second biggest source of donations for your candidates, after bailed out Wall Street bankers, are the educrat cartels you sell poor black and brown kids to after you kidnap them. I see some of you are even speaking about the slave trade without any cognizance of your place in that legacy.

Any chance I could get an English translation of this? I don’t speak nutjob too well and the conspiracy dialect is right out.

537 darthstar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:10:57am
538 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:11:04am

re: #529 Dr. Matt

Why is Brucie still obsessing over the IRS? Hasn’t the news reached him that Issa’s witch hunt has been embarrassing derailed?

Not only embarrassing derailed, but it seems they did not crack down hard enough:

Dark money group lies to IRS about being dark money group

539 darthstar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:11:35am

re: #531 Varek Raith

No one ever plans their escape.
Silly fools.

George Clooney does.

540 jaunte  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:11:37am

re: #536 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

It’s the “Liberal Plantation” argument.

541 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:12:45am

re: #498 wheat-dogghazi

A week in HK and a week in the Moscow airport don’t exactly qualify as “living in a country.” It’s like saying I’ve been to Japan because of a four-hour layover in the airport.

I’m living in my third country. How about you?

But one night in Bangkok makes a hard man humble.
;)

542 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:13:06am

Good morning lizards!

543 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:13:12am
544 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:13:16am

re: #450 Varek Raith

I am my own collective.

Spongeman!

545 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:14:14am

re: #536 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Any chance I could get an English translation of this? I don’t speak nutjob too well and the conspiracy dialect is right out.

That’s when I realized we weren’t even dealing with a coherent libertarian—that and the ‘flatbread’. Has anyone figured that out?

546 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:14:45am

re: #517 twisty

It appears to mean “teacher’s unions.” How the sale of young human beings to such unions escaped news coverage is simply beyond me. /

Yes, these are people who are opposed to public schooling. Freedom!

The thing is, most teachers in America are not represented, for collective bargaining purposes, by unions. They may belong to professional organizations, like the NEA, which have none of the bargaining powers associated with labor unions. Teacher unions in big cities, like NYC, are the exception, not the rule.

Private and religious school teachers have never had union representation. So, I guess this is how I missed out on getting my own personal child gofer.

547 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:14:59am

In addition to the ‘wingnut’ html tag, IMO there should be a ‘moonbat-GG/Snowden fanboy’ html tag.

548 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:15:01am

re: #545 Decatur Deb

That’s when I realized we weren’t even dealing with a coherent libertarian—that and the ‘flatbread’. Has anyone figured that out?

George Zimmerman with the flatbread on the Grassy Knoll.

549 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:15:45am

Speaking of Zimmerman, I still find it weird I went to HS with him.

550 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:16:49am

re: #545 Decatur Deb

That’s when I realized we weren’t even dealing with a coherent libertarian—that and the ‘flatbread’. Has anyone figured that out?

I presume the “flatbread” remark was a jab at the baking, cooking, and food comments that run as the secondary topic in most threads.

551 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:17:03am

re: #549 Varek Raith

Speaking of Zimmerman, I still find it weird I went to HS with him.

He needs character witnesses.

552 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:18:09am
553 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:18:17am

re: #551 Decatur Deb

He needs character witnesses.

Plenty of characters in this case so far, most of them the witnesses.

554 abolitionist  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:18:38am

re: #551 Decatur Deb

He needs character witnesses.

Fixed.

555 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:18:52am

re: #551 Decatur Deb

He needs character witnesses.

That was 12 years ago.:P

556 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:19:24am

re: #550 Feline Fearless Leader

I presume the “flatbread” remark was a jab at the baking, cooking, and food comments that run as the secondary topic in most threads.

Ah. Thought he had a problem with the Middle East. Must not be a long-time lurker—they know we’re all about boob puns and pineapple pizza.

557 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:19:36am
558 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:20:13am

re: #550 Feline Fearless Leader

I presume the “flatbread” remark was a jab at the baking, cooking, and food comments that run as the secondary topic in most threads.

I enjoy food posts.
The hell is wrong with fake libertarians???

559 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:20:24am

re: #550 Feline Fearless Leader

I presume the “flatbread” remark was a jab at the baking, cooking, and food comments that run as the secondary topic in most threads.

Maybe he knows the Seekrit Ingredients that Teh Juice put in the Matzo!

560 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:20:25am

re: #557 BruceMajors4DC

The Pelosi family needed to make it clear they oppose the Bill of Rights and its authors. After all, it’s almost July 4th.

Are you a robot programmed to post weak attacks that make your point of view look really nebbish?

561 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:20:37am

re: #555 Varek Raith

That was 12 years ago.:P

You could relate how he loved/strangled kittens.

562 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:20:43am

re: #557 BruceMajors4DC

You’re running out of steam. That wasn’t good at all. You should take a nap.

563 bratwurst  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:21:25am

This morning’s visit is certainly constant with my previous observation that self-proclaimed libertarians make for the most humorless trolls on LGF.

564 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:22:32am

re: #563 bratwurst

This morning’s visit is certainly constant with my previous observation that self-proclaimed libertarians make for the most humorless trolls on LGF.

Does becoming libertarian drain all their humor, or does being humorless draw them into the libertarian orbit?

565 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:22:49am
566 Lidane  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:23:15am

re: #564 Feline Fearless Leader

Does becoming libertarian drain all their humor, or does being humorless draw them into the libertarian orbit?

Six of one, half a dozen of the other.

567 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:23:28am

AP is reporting that Venezuela is still mulling Snowden’s asylum request.

568 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:24:03am

re: #564 Feline Fearless Leader

Does becoming libertarian drain all their humor, or does being humorless draw them into the libertarian orbit?

I’d wager they have no sense of humor at all. Otherwise, they’d laugh their asses off at how silly they sound.

569 wrenchwench  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:24:42am

re: #564 Feline Fearless Leader

Does becoming libertarian drain all their humor, or does being humorless draw them into the libertarian orbit?

It’s a dialectic!

570 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:26:28am

re: #567 wheat-dogghazi

AP is reporting that Venezuela is still mulling Snowden’s asylum request.

Hope he understands that, once he’s there, there’s no leaving. He can’t run back to the US when the locals get tired of him and without a passport there’s way for him to run to any of the countries he really wants to seek asylum in.

571 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:26:32am

Amnesty International is throwing their full support for Snowden.

USA must not persecute whistleblower Edward Snowden

“The US attempts to pressure governments to block Snowden’s attempts to seek asylum are deplorable. It is his unassailable right, enshrined in international law, to claim asylum and this should not be impeded.”

Michael Bochenek, Director of Law and Policy at Amnesty International.

572 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:26:34am

Theory,
Image: libertarianism-2.jpg

Reality,
Image: libertarianism-1.jpg

573 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:26:58am

re: #567 wheat-dogghazi

AP is reporting that Venezuela is still mulling Snowden’s asylum request.

He just has to supply his own toilet paper.

574 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:27:49am

nre: #564 Feline Fearless Leader

Does becoming libertarian drain all their humor, or does being humorless draw them into the libertarian orbit?

Who says libertarians aren’t funny?

575 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:27:49am

re: #564 Feline Fearless Leader

Does becoming libertarian drain all their humor, or does being humorless draw them into the libertarian orbit?

I think most humans would be libertarians if they were raised entirely by skilled childcare machines.

577 b.d.  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:28:32am

re: #567 wheat-dogghazi

AP is reporting that Venezuela is still mulling Snowden’s asylum request.

• Venezuela: “We haven’t been asked for help, but when he asks, he will have an answer,” President Nicolas Maduro said Tuesday.

Per CNN article which has a country by country run down:
Link

578 Lidane  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:28:34am

re: #567 wheat-dogghazi

AP is reporting that Venezuela is still mulling Snowden’s asylum request.

It’s taking longer because Chavez is dead. If he was still around, he would’ve offered asylum immediately, just to get in the news.

579 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:28:59am

re: #568 Varek Raith

I’d wager they have no sense of humor at all. Otherwise, they’d laugh their asses off at how silly they sound.

I don’t know. I think I saw a definite 5-c (appreciation of one’s own apparent wit) expression tossed in there.

;)

580 Interesting Times  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:29:22am

re: #568 Varek Raith

I’d wager they have no sense of humor at all.

This is their idea of humor.

Translation:

durr hurr moar sexism hey why dont those dumb wimminz vote for us? proof us men need to make decisions for them!!1!! Derp.

581 darthstar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:29:38am

re: #549 Varek Raith

Speaking of Zimmerman, I still find it weird I went to HS with him.

Then why aren’t you on trial?

582 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:29:58am

re: #581 darthstar

Then why aren’t you on trial?

Superlaser.
Next!

583 Gus  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:30:57am
584 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:31:29am

re: #571 NJDhockeyfan

For chrissakes, will people stop calling him a “whistle blower?”

Although I suppose that’s a PR word to try to give him some legitimacy.

585 darthstar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:31:35am

re: #571 NJDhockeyfan

Amnesty International is throwing their full support for Snowden.

USA must not persecute whistleblower Edward Snowden

He’s not a whistleblower. He’s a thief and an attention whore who stole classified intel (he didn’t care what he took) and four computers.

586 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:31:38am

re: #577 b.d.

Per CNN article which has a country by country run down:
Link

here is the list:

• Austria: His request is not valid, because applicants must be in Austria and submit their applications in person.
• Bolivia: “Yes, why not,” Bolivian President Evo Morales said, according to Russia’s state-run Itar-Tass news agency, which cited the Russia Today news network. “We are worried at the demeanor of countries such as U.S.A.” However, despite WikiLeaks’ statement, Morales said Bolivia has not received a request for asylum on Snowden’s behalf, Itar-Tass reported.
• Brazil: The country won’t grant asylum or even respond to the request, Reuters reported Tuesday, citing a Foreign Ministry spokesman.
• China: The Ministry of Foreign Affairs said Tuesday it had no information to offer on Snowden’s case.
• Cuba: No response yet.
• Ecuador: The South American country has said that it’s considering Snowden’s request but that he needs to reach its territory.
• Finland: “We don’t have an official application from Snowden,” Jorma Vuorio, director general for the migration department of the Interior Ministry, told CNN. “He just left a letter requesting asylum at the Finnish Embassy in Moscow. According to Finnish legislation, it is not possible to leave an asylum application outside the Finnish territory.”
• France: No response yet.
• Germany: No response yet.
• Iceland: Officials have said asylum seekers need to be in Icelandic territory in order to apply.
• India: Ministry of External Affairs spokesman Syed Akbaruddin said Tuesday that India will deny the request.
• Ireland: The Irish Justice Ministry declined to confirm whether it had received a request on Snowden’s behalf, but said Irish law requires that applicants reach the country’s borders before a request can be considered.
• Italy: The Italian Foreign Ministry said it received an asylum request by fax. The country accepts requests done in Italian territory or at the border, the ministry said.
• The Netherlands: No response yet.
• Nicaragua: No response yet.
• Norway: The country confirms the receipt of his request, but usually, asylum seekers must be in the country already to be allowed to apply. The Ministry of Justice is considering whether or not to process his application.
• Poland: Snowden’s request for asylum doesn’t fulfill requirements, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs said Tuesday.
• Russia: Snowden has withdrawn his request for permission to stay in Russia, Kremlin spokesman Peskov said Tuesday, according to the news agency RIA Novosti.
• Spain: The country is not reviewing Snowden’s request because it must be made from within or on its borders, a Foreign Ministry spokeswoman said.
• Switzerland: No response yet.
• Venezuela: “We haven’t been asked for help, but when he asks, he will have an answer,” President Nicolas Maduro said Tuesday.

587 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:32:19am

re: #570 Targetpractice

Hope he understands that, once he’s there, there’s no leaving. He can’t run back to the US when the locals get tired of him and without a passport there’s way for him to run to any of the countries he really wants to seek asylum in.

I have a feeling that he doesn’t quite get that. However, he is still a citizen of the USA, despite his revoked passport. He could come back, if he were willing to face the music.

re: #571 NJDhockeyfan

Usually, I am behind Amnesty Intl all the way, but on this matter, I don’t have a lot of sympathy for Snowden. It’s not a political issue he’s fleeing from, but a legal one.

And frankly, he’s a fool to think that the US cannot someday find him and bring him in, no matter where he is.

588 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:33:19am

re: #586 NJDhockeyfan

here is the list:

Note that some of the big name countries he’d really like to seek asylum in have basically said “Sorry, but you have to be on our soil.” Wonder if Assange is looking to pull another disappearing act to get him out of the terminal long enough to reach one of their embassies in Russia.

589 Interesting Times  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:33:30am

re: #577 b.d.

Per CNN article which has a country by country run down:
Link

Why isn’t the most appropriate choice for libertarians on that list?

590 piratedan  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:33:35am

re: #586 NJDhockeyfan

here is the list:

well has he applied to Arizona, Texas or South Carolina yet? All of those places allege that federal laws don’t apply to them….

591 darthstar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:34:58am

re: #586 NJDhockeyfan

Talk about your international man of misery.

592 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:35:45am

re: #588 Targetpractice

Note that some of the big name countries he’d really like to seek asylum in have basically said “Sorry, but you have to be on our soil.” Wonder if Assange is looking to pull another disappearing act to get him out of the terminal long enough to reach one of their embassies in Russia.

I don’t know if making it to one of their overseas embassies would count. The ‘extraterritoriality’ of embassies is often overstated.

593 darthstar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:36:50am

re: #590 piratedan

well has he applied to Arizona, Texas or South Carolina yet? All of those places allege that federal laws don’t apply to them….

Seriously…he could just as easily have flown to Connecticut and gotten a room at Foxwoods Resort & Casino…he’d be on ‘sovereign lands’ and have four golf courses at his disposal.

594 darthstar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:37:34am

re: #593 darthstar

Seriously…he could just as easily have flown to Connecticut and gotten a room at Foxwoods Resort & Casino…he’d be on ‘sovereign lands’ and have four golf courses at his disposal.

AND FREE WIFI!

595 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:38:20am

Lesse, there’s Andorra, Leichtenstein, San Marino, Monaco…

596 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:38:45am

re: #560 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Are you a robot programmed to post weak attacks that make your point of view look really nebbish?

Let’s check to see if it passes the Turing test.

597 darthstar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:39:13am

The twitter…it can fuck you.

598 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:39:16am

re: #588 Targetpractice

Note that some of the big name countries he’d really like to seek asylum in have basically said “Sorry, but you have to be on our soil.” Wonder if Assange is looking to pull another disappearing act to get him out of the terminal long enough to reach one of their embassies in Russia.

The kicker would be what happens if he leaves the transit terminal and does *not* get to an embassy. Then he’d be arrested for illegally being in Russia and pretty much at their mercy. And their obvious solution, since he is a US citizen, would be to toss him on a plane and deport him to the US.

599 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:39:47am

re: #596 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Let’s check to see if it passes the Turing test.

I’m still waiting for signs of human intelligence.

600 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:39:47am

re: #596 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Let’s check to see if it passes the Turing test.

Crossed my mind, but I think he’s just working from a well-worn menu.

601 darthstar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:39:58am
602 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:40:32am

re: #597 darthstar

The twitter…it can fuck you.

BREAKING: Prosecutors inquire about photo of Don West and daughters “celebrating” after #GeorgeZimmerman trial PIC: pic.twitter.com/9F5v2Q39Or
— Mike DeForest (@MikeDeForest6) July 2, 2013

What exactly are they “celebrating”?

603 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:40:46am

How the hell do you draw a line around something…
/

604 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:41:57am
605 darthstar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:42:19am

re: #598 Feline Fearless Leader

The kicker would be what happens if he leaves the transit terminal and does *not* get to an embassy. Then he’d be arrested for illegally being in Russia and pretty much at their mercy. And their obvious solution, since he is a US citizen, would be to toss him on a plane and deport him to the US.

Russia doesn’t return people like that. But they could slip him a mickey, throw him into a cargo plane, and have him wake up on an airport access road in the middle of Texas.

606 Lidane  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:42:47am

re: #603 Varek Raith

How the hell do you draw a line around something…
/

Photoshop, of course.

607 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:43:51am

Snowden is really asking for some white boy privilege, IMHO.

Can you imagine if he wasn’t pretty much a con man, and BAH wasn’t so slack on investigating his background, that he would have even been within a mile of the NSA? We don’t even know if his stated background is even legit—has the govt even commented on it?

And can you imagine the uproar if he had been anyone other than who he is who had wormed his way into that job and acted outside of his designated scope of employment?

608 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:44:32am
28 - Divide a vertical line in two equal parts by bisecting it with a curve horizontal line that is only straight at its spot bisection of the vertical.

Is this even fucking English?

609 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:44:45am

re: #601 darthstar

[Embedded content]

Well, that leaves him pretty much fucked. Putin’s not likely to suffer his presence much longer now that he’s no longer a whistleblower seeking asylum in Russia but is instead an international fugitive taking up residency on Russian soil.

610 darthstar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:45:23am

re: #602 Dr. Matt

What exactly are they “celebrating”?

His brilliant knock-knock opening.

And that’s the thing. This trial was decided when he pissed off the jury at the start.
Knock knock!
Who’s there?
A bunch of fucking idiots.
A bunch of fucking idiots who?
YOU! A BUNCH OF FUCKING IDIOTS YOU! HA!

611 Lidane  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:45:48am
612 Gus  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:46:12am

I wonder what would have happened if Snowden was a 300 lbs. Arab-American from Dearborn, MI with an eye-patch.

613 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:46:15am

re: #608 Varek Raith

Is this even fucking English?

Bet the person who wrote it was allowed to vote.

614 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:46:50am

re: #612 Gus

I wonder what would have happened if Snowden was a 300 lbs. Arab-American from Dearborn, MI with an eye-patch.

AAARG!

615 Lidane  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:47:00am

re: #608 Varek Raith

Is this even fucking English?

Clearly you’re not smart enough to vote. It’s the back of the bus for you.

616 darthstar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:47:32am

re: #609 Targetpractice

Well, that leaves him pretty much fucked. Putin’s not likely to suffer his presence much longer now that he’s no longer a whistleblower seeking asylum in Russia but is instead an international fugitive taking up residency on Russian soil.

Putin says Russia doesn’t give anyone up. He didn’t say it was Snowden’s choice whether he leaves the country or not. He may just say, oh, let him stay in the terminal until some country accepts him, but take away his computers…check back in August and see where he wants to go.

617 twisty  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:48:17am

re: #608 Varek Raith

Each of the words appears to be in English at least but that’s about it. I particularly enjoyed “Cross out the number necessary, when making the number below one million.”

618 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:48:49am

re: #616 darthstar

Putin says Russia doesn’t give anyone up. He didn’t say it was Snowden’s choice whether he leaves the country or not. He may just say, oh, let him stay in the terminal until some country accepts him, but take away his computers…check back in August and see where he wants to go.

“You wanted to leave? Sorry, but you’ve got no passport and nowhere to go. Get comfy, you’re gonna be here awhile.”

619 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:49:06am

I’ll be honest, that’s the fist time I’ve seen what was on a literacy test.
Jesus.

620 Lidane  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:49:17am

re: #616 darthstar

Putin says Russia doesn’t give anyone up. He didn’t say it was Snowden’s choice whether he leaves the country or not. He may just say, oh, let him stay in the terminal until some country accepts him, but take away his computers…check back in August and see where he wants to go.

I get the feeling that Putin will “accept” Snowden’s departure from Russia, much like a company accepts the resignation of someone they want to fire, but they also let that person save face.

621 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:49:43am

re: #608 Varek Raith

Heh. That’s the point. Questions that are incomprehensible, may have multiple or no correct answer, or the answer is up to the judgment of the administrator.

Any wrong answer results in getting the test wrong - and making you ineligible to vote.

Wonderful system they had there. And many of the states that had poll tests are jumping to enact new restrictions that while not as awful as the poll tests, would restrict access to polls and cause undue hardship (all in the name of voter fraud).

622 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:50:08am

re: #619 Varek Raith

I’ll be honest, that’s the fist time I’ve seen what was on a literacy test.
Jesus.

The new ones will be much nicer—touchscreens an’ all.

623 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:50:45am

re: #621 lawhawk

Heh. That’s the point. Questions that are incomprehensible, may have multiple or no correct answer, or the answer is up to the judgment of the administrator.

Any wrong answer results in getting the test wrong - and making you ineligible to vote.

Wonderful system they had there. And many of the states that had poll tests are jumping to enact new restrictions that while not as awful as the poll tests, would restrict access to polls and cause undue hardship (all in the name of voter fraud).

I knew they were impossible, just not so…. blatant about it.
Crazy shit.

624 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:51:58am

re: #622 Decatur Deb

The new ones will be much nicer—touchscreens an’ all.

First question;
Who shot first?

625 b.d.  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:53:37am

re: #618 Targetpractice

“You wanted to leave? Sorry, but you’ve got no passport and nowhere to go. Get comfy, you’re gonna be here awhile.”

Wait until his credit card doesn’t work anymore and see how long that $200 a day airport holdover room lasts.

626 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:53:57am

“New” registration.

627 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:55:45am

How is this turd allowed to register another account? I thought Charles had IP traps in place to prevent this kind of shit.

628 wrenchwench  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:55:47am

re: #626 Decatur Deb

“New” registration.

New Registration: BruceMajorsDC

Why you call me sok?

629 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:56:24am

Someone need attenshun.

630 darthstar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:57:08am

Actually…it’s pretty good…with flames!

631 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:57:42am

re: #628 wrenchwench

New Registration: BruceMajorsDC

Why you call me sok?

He has a wingman with 0 comments.

632 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:57:46am

re: #625 b.d.

Wait until his credit card doesn’t work anymore and see how long that $200 a day airport holdover room lasts.

My guess is that Assange has already extended him a line of credit.

633 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:58:09am

re: #610 darthstar

Media coverage of trials, versus what goes on that the jurors actually see are completely different animals.

The defense team’s opening statement got off on the wrong foot with the knock knock joke, but it isn’t fatal to the case. Remember, all the defense has to do is raise reasonable doubt. That’s it, even though the defense attorney appears to have no rapport with the jury after the opening fiasco.

So far, have they done that - and more to the point, has the prosecution proved beyond a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman killed Martin under the charges of murder 2?

We’re still a bit away from handing this off to the jury, but when it does go to the jury, they’ll be looking at (jury instructions).

To prove the crime of Second Degree Murder, the State must prove the following three elements beyond a reasonable doubt:

1. (Victim) is dead.

2. The death was caused by the criminal act of (defendant).

3. There was an unlawful killing of (victim) by an act imminently dangerous to another and demonstrating a depraved mind without regard for human life.

Definitions.
An “act” includes a series of related actions arising from and performed pursuant to a single design or purpose.

An act is “imminently dangerous to another and demonstrating a depraved mind” if it is an act or series of acts that:

1. a person of ordinary judgment would know is reasonably certain to kill or do serious bodily injury to another, and

2. is done from ill will, hatred, spite, or an evil intent, and

3. is of such a nature that the act itself indicates an indifference to human life.

In order to convict of Second Degree Murder, it is not necessary for the State to prove the defendant had an intent to cause death.

Lesser Included Offenses

They’ll then look at the issue of reasonable doubt and defenses.

634 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:59:19am

re: #627 Vicious Babushka

He’s behind 7 proxies.

635 stabby  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 8:59:57am

re: #510 Gus

Oh

So THAT’s who we’ve got infesting the comment section, a #tcot #breitbart

God.

You know I liked it better when Libertarians were drug dealers and pimps they interviewed in High Times.

636 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:00:12am

Image: behind+7+proxies+2.png

637 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:00:12am

re: #633 lawhawk

Media coverage of trials, versus what goes on that the jurors actually see are completely different animals.

The defense team’s opening statement got off on the wrong foot with the knock knock joke, but it isn’t fatal to the case. Remember, all the defense has to do is raise reasonable doubt. That’s it, even though the defense attorney appears to have no rapport with the jury after the opening fiasco.

So far, have they done that - and more to the point, has the prosecution proved beyond a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman killed Martin under the charges of murder 2?

We’re still a bit away from handing this off to the jury, but when it does go to the jury, they’ll be looking at (jury instructions).

They’ll then look at the issue of reasonable doubt and defenses.

Don’t they first have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that it was self-defense before they can consider the murder charge?

638 b.d.  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:00:20am

re: #632 Targetpractice

My guess is that Assange has already extended him a line of credit.

Put it on Ecuador’s tab, said Assange.

I don’t see that paradise relationship lasting much longer either.

639 wrenchwench  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:01:08am

re: #631 Decatur Deb

He has a wingman with 0 comments.

He just needed to downding some posts twice because they offend him so much.

640 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:01:27am
641 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:02:08am

re: #639 wrenchwench

He just needed to downding some posts twice because they offend him so much.

Any way to see our downding history? I feel I have been too cautious.

642 wrenchwench  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:02:10am

re: #640 BruceMajorsDC

Welcome, hatchling!!!

////////////////////////

643 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:02:31am

re: #638 b.d.

Put it on Ecuador’s tab, said Assange.

I don’t see that paradise relationship lasting much longer either.

From the way that Ecuador puts it, somebody’s gonna find his ass reassigned to Tajikistan by this time next year.

644 wrenchwench  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:02:49am

re: #641 Decatur Deb

Any way to see our downding history? I feel I have been too cautious.

Not that I know of. I suspect Stinky possesses such a tool…

645 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:03:28am
646 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:03:35am

re: #617 twisty

Each of the words appears to be in English at least but that’s about it. I particularly enjoyed “Cross out the number necessary, when making the number below one million.”

I recall a joke about an educated black man trying to pass a literacy test, one wrong answer and he was out:

First they asked “What was the greatest maritime disaster ever?”
-“The sinking of the Titanic,” he replies…

Hmm, thought the tester, “How many people went down on the Titanic?”

“1,503,” answers the man.

The tester thinks again and asks, “Name them!”

647 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:03:42am

re: #640 BruceMajorsDC

Hey, again: Fuck David Gregory, and MSNBC, while marginally better than other networks, sucks like the whole media does.

648 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:04:10am

re: #645 BruceMajorsDC

Charming.

649 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:04:28am

It’s like the whole LNYHBT and TCOT and TGDN all decided to pay us a visit.

650 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:05:23am
651 wrenchwench  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:05:29am

re: #649 Vicious Babushka

It’s like the whole LNYHBT and TCOT and TGDN all decided to pay us a visit.

‘Let Not Your Head Be Thinking’?

652 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:05:43am

re: #644 wrenchwench

Not that I know of. I suspect Stinky possesses such a tool…

Downdinged again. That toaster just keeps getting farther away..

653 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:06:03am

re: #640 BruceMajorsDC

It’s demonstrated preference for racially segregated neighborhoods. I laugh when they smear tea partiers.

Because Tea Partiers all live in integrated neighborhoods and have black friends.

Tell us about your black friends, Bruce…

654 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:06:15am

re: #649 Vicious Babushka

It’s like the whole LNYHBT and TCOT and TGDN all decided to pay us a visit.

What’s weird is the total lack of knowledge about this place. Like people here are going to be stymied by ‘Democrats were the party of the KKK’ or that everyone here loves MSNBC.

655 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:06:19am
656 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:06:33am
657 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:06:55am
658 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:07:27am

I watch Maddow.
Sometimes Cooper.
That’s about it for cable news.

659 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:07:29am

re: #657 BruceMajorsDC

Oh god you actually think you’re doing well.

660 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:07:29am

re: #656 BruceMajorsDC

Litterady? Isn’t that racist?

I made one mistake, I guess that means I lose the right to post…

661 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:07:41am
662 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:07:44am

re: #657 BruceMajorsDC

My black friends or my black lovers?

Video or GTFO.

663 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:07:56am

re: #660 Sol Berdinowitz

I made one mistake, I guess that means I lose the right to post…

You made two mistakes, which means you really made three mistakes, which means you’re ejected from the ballgame.

664 stabby  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:07:58am

re: #645 BruceMajorsDC

That’s nice, dear.

You realize that you’re supporting republican-libertarians whose agenda is to end federal power so that right wing states can become MORE oppressive than the Federal government will allow.

They want gays discriminated against, heh, or run out or killed… whatever.

“states rights” has always meant “get rid of all civil rights legislation”

665 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:08:02am

re: #653 Sol Berdinowitz

Because Tea Partiers all live in integrated neighborhoods and have black friends.

Tell us about your black friends Bruce…

And they all own multiple high-end vehicles, live in mansions, possess multiple advanced college degrees, traveled throughout the globe, and donate heavily to charities. Did I cover it all?

666 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:08:13am

re: #657 BruceMajorsDC

My black friends or my black lovers?

Black sheep?

667 Gus  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:08:19am

Getting weirder.

668 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:08:22am

re: #655 Dr. Matt

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Well, at this rate, Zimmerman will never have to take the stand.

669 stabby  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:08:46am

re: #652 Decatur Deb

Downdinged again. That toaster just keeps getting farther away..

awwwww your dream

670 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:09:06am

re: #661 BruceMajorsDC

Oh I have no delusions about your intellects. I’m not talking to you, I’m talking about you.

Okay, but why? What do you actually get out of it? This is the mysterious thing. You come here and post incredibly lame insults that mostly whiff because you don’t know jack shit about anyone here— so how does this work for you? Do you just fool yourself into thinking you’re getting sick burns ?

671 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:09:08am

re: #661 BruceMajorsDC

Oh I have no delusions about your intellects. I’m not talking to you, I’m talking about you.

Says the libertarian socon.
;)

672 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:09:30am

re: #669 stabby

awwwww your dream

I’ve been saving bread for years. Flatbread.

673 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:09:48am

re: #612 Gus

I wonder what would have happened if Snowden was a 300 lbs. Arab-American from Dearborn, MI with an eye-patch.

The eye-patch is a dead give-away.

674 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:10:42am

re: #612 Gus

I wonder what would have happened if Snowden was a 300 lbs. Arab-American from Dearborn, MI with an eye-patch.

Are eye patches part of creeping Sharia law?

675 wrenchwench  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:10:43am

re: #661 BruceMajorsDC

Oh I have no delusions about your intellects. I’m not talking to you, I’m talking about you.

I am talking in front of you. Nothing’s getting through, though.

676 stabby  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:10:46am

Y’all believe that BruceMajorsDC is gay, while he’s playing to the gay hating racists who make up 99.99999999% of #tcot and #breitbart?

I smell bullshit

677 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:11:17am

re: #676 stabby

Who believes that?

678 Lidane  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:11:26am
679 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:11:34am

re: #621 lawhawk

Heh. That’s the point. Questions that are incomprehensible, may have multiple or no correct answer, or the answer is up to the judgment of the administrator.

Any wrong answer results in getting the test wrong - and making you ineligible to vote.

Wonderful system they had there. And many of the states that had poll tests are jumping to enact new restrictions that while not as awful as the poll tests, would restrict access to polls and cause undue hardship (all in the name of voter fraud).

They did their best to obfuscate the language and as far away from cultural norms as possible.

680 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:11:47am

re: #675 I Am Bruce Majors

I am talking in front of you. Nothing’s getting through, though.

Ah, fuck.
What have I told you all about dividing by zero?
This is why we can’t have nice things.

681 stabby  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:11:55am

re: #677 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

it was a question.

682 wrenchwench  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:12:02am

re: #676 stabby

I smell bullshit

Ya think?

683 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:12:23am
684 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:12:29am
685 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:13:08am
686 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:13:13am

re: #681 stabby

it was a question.

Anyway, sure, he could be gay. Greenwald is gay and just appeared on Fox news. There are black GOP members, gay GOP members. Not many of them, but don’t mistake rarity with impossibility.

It really doesn’t matter.

687 Lidane  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:13:17am

The stench of self-important troll is strong around here.

I’m in the middle of a quality control meeting and that’s more interesting than this new hatchling.

688 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:13:37am
689 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:13:43am

re: #678 Lidane

Rick Wiles is sad we don’t have “intelligent discussion” on LGBT issues…like why gays are Nazis t.co
— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) July 2, 2013

No self-respecting homosexual would have ever been seen wearing those monocolor, drab Nazi uniforms. Geez.

690 wrenchwench  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:13:59am

re: #685 BruceMajorsDC

That will pay per view for you, unless you want to trade for your Does Dallas tapes.

Deb fools another one.

691 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:14:17am

re: #688 BruceMajorsDC

Nice rhetorical flourish, old chap.

692 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:14:19am

re: #685 BruceMajorsDC

That will pay per view for you, unless you want to trade for your Does Dallas tapes.

I’ll let the market decide.

693 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:14:21am

re: #688 BruceMajorsDC

Try washing your face more often.

huh.jpg

694 stabby  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:14:31am

re: #686 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Are there any who post on Breitbart?

695 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:14:59am

re: #682 I Am Bruce Majors

re: #683 BruceMajorsDC

Will the real Bruce Majors please stand up?

696 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:15:25am

re: #694 stabby

Are their any who post on Breitbart?

Probably. Why does it matter?

697 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:16:05am

re: #690 I Am Bruce Majors

Deb fools another one.

Sshhh.

698 wrenchwench  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:16:38am

I gotta go fix some bikes my nic Snowden’s asylum applications.

BBL

699 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:16:50am

I hate Excel…

700 stabby  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:17:24am

re: #696 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

My point, and I’ve fixed the spelling error by the way >.>, is that SOME groups of “conservatives” are so bigoted and hateful that gays and anyone who is offended by racism would stay far away.

the groups he hashtagged are among them. So, no, I don’t believe him.

701 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:17:37am

re: #699 Varek Raith

I hate Excel…

I excel at hate…

702 Lidane  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:17:39am

re: #689 Dr. Matt

No self-respecting homosexual would have ever been seen wearing those monocolor, drab Nazi uniforms. Geez.

The Nazi uniforms were couture. They were designed by Hugo Boss.

703 dragonath  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:17:39am

Exclusive: Egypt army plan would scrap constitution, parliament - sources

The sources said the military intended to install an interim council, composed mainly of civilians from different political groups and experienced technocrats, to run the country until an amended constitution was drafted within months.

That would be followed by a new presidential election, but parliamentary polls would be delayed until strict conditions for selecting candidates were in force, they said.

705 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:18:32am

re: #703 dragonath

Exclusive: Egypt army plan would scrap constitution, parliament - sources

In short, military is basically saying the current experiment in democracy is failing, but they’re not ready to give up on democracy.

706 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:18:48am

re: #703 dragonath

Exclusive: Egypt army plan would scrap constitution, parliament - sources

Heh, ya beat me by 40 seconds

707 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:19:21am

Dammit. All the columns are borked.
I give up for now.

708 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:19:37am

re: #700 stabby

My point, and I’ve fixed the spelling error by the way >.>, is that SOME groups of “conservatives” are so bigoted and hateful that gays and anyone who is offended by racism would stay far away.

the groups he hashtagged are among them. So, no, I don’t believe him.

I don’t know why you think this is true, though. You seem to think gay people all identify first and foremost as that. I know a total nutjob of an anti-Obama gay dude who’d happily post on Breitbart. He’s a Libertarian, too. He’s not exactly a happy person, but he exists.

It’s completely irrelevant if he’s gay or not.

709 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:20:27am

re: #705 Targetpractice

In short, military is basically saying the current experiment in democracy is failing, but they’re not ready to give up on democracy.

Call me crazy, but I see this action as somewhat of a good thing.
/Crazy.

710 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:21:04am

BruceMajorsDC is now blocked. Oh well…..

711 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:21:41am

re: #704 Killgore Trout

Exclusive: Egypt army plan would scrap constitution, parliament - sources

Where the hell have you been lately???

712 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:21:57am

Something you don’t see every day:


Who you gonna call? Ghostbusters!

713 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:22:19am

re: #712 lawhawk

Something you don’t see every day:

[Embedded content]


Who you gonna call? Ghostbusters!

Uh…
Run.

714 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:22:24am

re: #710 Dr. Matt

BruceMajorsDC is now blocked. Oh well…..

New BM just came aboard.

715 dragonath  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:22:34am

re: #705 Targetpractice

Yeah, the guy who turned into an instant autocrat didn’t really turn out so well for democracy. After Morsi, I doubt the army really wants to rule the country at this point unless it’s forced to.

716 piratedan  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:22:37am

re: #712 lawhawk

the Ghost of Ed Koch?

717 Joanne  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:23:30am

re: #597 darthstar

The twitter…it can fuck you.

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In this case, Instagram, then Twitter and Facebook and just about every other social media site I have not heard of.

718 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:23:41am

re: #716 piratedan

the Ghost of Ed Koch?

Has Weiner been in the neighborhood?

719 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:24:39am

re: #718 Decatur Deb

Has Weiner been in the neighborhood?

WTF. You can’t say that.
You’re not satt.

720 Jayleia  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:24:42am

re: #572 Varek Raith

Actually, it should show one guy with both guns and both bags of money standing over the body of the other…

721 b.d.  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:24:52am

re: #712 lawhawk

Something you don’t see every day:
[Embedded content]
Who you gonna call? Ghostbusters!

Oil in Brooklyn! This changes everything.

722 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:25:48am

re: #715 dragonath

Yeah, the guy who turned into an instant autocrat didn’t really turn out so well for democracy. After Morsi, I doubt the army really wants to rule the country at this point unless it’s forced to.

Yeah, the military seems very reluctant to take a direct role in any of this.

723 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:25:51am


Not good. At all. And likely to intensify as the deadline approaches, even though Morsi’s so far said he wouldn’t knuckle under the military’s demands.

BTW, the fact that the military’s essentially calling the shots in this crisis tells you where the center of power is - and it isn’t in the presidency or the parliament. It’s the military, as it has been for decades.

It was the military shifting support away from Mubarak that finally ended his regime (just as the military backed him after Sadat was assassinated that led him to take and keep power).

724 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:25:54am

re: #721 b.d.

Oil in Brooklyn! This changes everything.

Or some mutagenic compound that will give rise to turtles of the ninja persuasion.

725 dragonath  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:26:55am

A new constitutional process would be interesting. Egypt is wide awake right now. Would a new military leader even be acceptable?

726 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:27:12am
727 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:28:08am
728 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:28:34am
729 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:28:55am
730 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:29:01am

re: #726 BruceMajorsIsUnderYourBed

A sufficiently fanatical person can always get reregged somewhere they got banned from.

The bigger question that you keep weaseling away from is why? What is it that you think you’re achieving?

731 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:29:21am

re: #728 BruceMajorsIsUnderYourBed

(I was once offered a job at the NSA by the way.)

Probably because of your 164 IQ.

732 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:29:53am

re: #730 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

A sufficiently fanatical person can always get reregged somewhere they got banned from.

The bigger question that you keep weaseling away from is why? What is it that you think you’re achieving?

Stirring the pot for shits and giggles.

733 b.d.  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:29:55am

re: #724 Varek Raith

Or some mutagenic compound that will give rise to turtles of the ninja persuasion.

Well, of course, that too.

734 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:30:01am

re: #731 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Probably because of your 164 IQ.

It plays 3-D chess against its sock puppets.

735 Joanne  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:30:02am

re: #633 lawhawk

So, what’s your analysis of what has taken place thus far, based on what you might know?

736 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:30:13am

re: #719 Varek Raith

WTF. You can’t say that.
You’re not satt.

Weiner pisses me off. So did Bill Clinton, though I’ll have to work for Hillary in ‘16.

737 dragonath  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:31:15am

re: #736 Decatur Deb

Weiner pisses me off.

Nice pun.

738 stabby  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:31:20am

re: #728 BruceMajorsIsUnderYourBed

Oh boy. You’re not long for this er blog.

If you’d been paying attention you’d realize that registration is only open for a short time. Also there’s a moderator who, I believe, checks IP addresses.

But he doesn’t have to when you name yourself the same, genius!

739 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:31:26am

re: #721 b.d.

Oh, there’s tons of oil in Brooklyn. In fact one of the world’s worst oil spills is here in NYC - under Newtown Creek, but Standard Oil (and its successor companies) owns it so don’t go thinking you can sink well’s and become like the Beverly Hillbillies…

740 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:31:28am

re: #736 Decatur Deb

Weiner pisses me off. So did Bill Clinton, though I’ll have to work for Hillary in ‘16.

I meant that in a ‘only satt gets to tell bad jokes’ kind of way.
;)

741 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:31:35am
742 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:32:28am
743 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:32:58am

I do not understand this need to re-register after being banned.
Whatever floats your boat…

744 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:33:03am

...

745 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:33:22am

re: #740 Varek Raith

I meant that in a ‘only satt gets to tell bad jokes’ kind of way.
;)

Wife says all my jokes are bad.

746 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:33:31am

re: #743 Varek Raith

I do not understand this need to re-register after being banned.
Whatever floats your boat…

How does he keep getting in?
Image: SNLttwl.jpg

747 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:34:19am

re: #746 NJDhockeyfan

How does he keep getting in?
Image: SNLttwl.jpg

Through the sewer system.

748 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:34:24am

re: #746 NJDhockeyfan

How does he keep getting in?
Image: SNLttwl.jpg

There a lots of ways to get around bans and ip bans.

749 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:35:23am

Derp. I forget to use reply instead of quote. Been a while since we had a live one.

750 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:36:12am

His feeble attempts at “insults” went from bad to a desperate need for attention.

751 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:36:15am

re: #748 Varek Raith

Not any more.

752 stabby  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:36:26am

And BMIUYB is blocked.

And he never got to tell us why he plays for the approval of bigots on twitter who hate gays.

754 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:36:53am

re: #751 Charles Johnson

Not any more.

Magic.

755 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:37:07am

re: #753 Killgore Trout

Brotherhood leader calls for ‘martyrdom’ to stop Egypt coup

Yeah, good luck with that…

756 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:37:07am

re: #735 Joanne

The prosecutors are doing an okay job in showing intent, motive, and actions by Zimmerman led him to kill Martin. Defense redirects haven’t poked enough holes in the case, but there’s still time.

No real smoking guns by either side just yet, but the “that’s just retarded” remark by the one witness going after the defense attorney will stick in minds of jurors.

757 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:38:04am

re: #753 Killgore Trout

Brotherhood leader calls for ‘martyrdom’ to stop Egypt coup

Translation: “Protect our attempt to install a dictatorship from being blocked by the military!”

758 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:38:12am

re: #756 lawhawk

The prosecutors are doing an okay job in showing intent, motive, and actions by Zimmerman led him to kill Martin. Defense redirects haven’t poked enough holes in the case, but there’s still time.

No real smoking guns by either side just yet, but the “that’s just retarded” remark by the one witness going after the defense attorney will stick in minds of jurors.

What caused that response?

759 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:38:43am

The prosecution in the Z trial just finished with a friend of Z’s who was allowed to give hearsay testimony. WTF was that all about? He described Z as “my best friend” twice.

Isn’t that the defense’s job? Does every white person in FL want to get this POS off?

760 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:39:09am

re: #755 Varek Raith

Yeah, good luck with that…

I’ll give them half credit. I have little doubt they can successfully sacrifice their lives but there’s no chance in hell they’re going to stop the army from throwing them out.

761 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:39:28am

re: #758 Varek Raith

What caused that response?

West suggested that the reason why Martin suddenly cut off communication was that he intended to start a fight with Zimmerman.

762 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:39:44am

re: #759 Justanotherhuman

The prosecution in the Z trial just finished with a friend of Z’s who was allowed to give hearsay testimony. WTF was that all about? He described Z as “my best friend” twice.

Isn’t that the defense’s job? Does every white person in FL want to get this POS off?

This is the same state that found Casey Anthony “not guilty”. Nuff said.

763 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:39:51am

re: #757 Targetpractice

Translation: “Protect our attempt to install a dictatorship from being blocked by the military!”

Who could have guessed the Muslim Bros wouldn’t leave power peacefully?
/

764 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:40:14am

re: #761 Targetpractice

West suggested that the reason why Martin suddenly cut off communication was that he intended to start a fight with Zimmerman.

What is with this stupid defense team?

765 chadu  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:40:31am

re: #659 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Oh god you actually think you’re doing well.

Upding for sideways Firefly quote.

766 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:40:32am
767 dragonath  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:40:38am

Hard to believe Morsi’s been in power for an entire year. Martyr on, morons.

768 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:40:48am

re: #759 Justanotherhuman

The prosecution in the Z trial just finished with a friend of Z’s who was allowed to give hearsay testimony. WTF was that all about? He described Z as “my best friend” twice.

Isn’t that the defense’s job? Does every white person in FL want to get this POS off?

Defense couldn’t call witness, State is trying to argue that the recall of events featured in the friend’s book differ significantly from versions that he gave to cops.

Defense does succeed in getting his friend to admit that A) book was written months after conversations and B) no notes were taken during said conversations.

769 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:41:31am

By the way, that cretin didn’t “IP spoof” anything. He was just using different email addresses.

770 Gus  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:41:53am
771 Lidane  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:41:57am

I love how peaceful assembly is treated in my state. First the Lt. Gov calls protesters an unruly mob. Another douchecanoe state rep calls them terrorists. Now this:


That’s right. Standing up for your rights is no different than standing on a street corner and screaming.

Fuck the Texas GOP sideways.

772 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:41:58am

re: #762 Dr. Matt

This is the same state that found Casey Anthony “not guilty”. Nuff said.

I will be greatly surprised if he does not walk. But that has little to with what happened, but between SYG and the failure of the police to gather evidence from the scene of the crime, it will be all but impossible to prove anything beyond a reasonable doubt, and that is the ultimate yardstick.

773 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:42:45am

re: #769 Charles Johnson

By the way, that cretin didn’t “IP spoof” anything. He was just using different email addresses.

That’s a pretty half-hearted attempt. He could have at least used a proxy.

774 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:43:10am

re: #769 Charles Johnson

By the way, that cretin didn’t “IP spoof” anything. He was just using different email addresses.

Aw, not so clever after all.

775 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:43:10am

re: #770 Gus

Progressivism dreams of you and me being dead. Exercise your rights accordingly. #caring

Projection.

776 chadu  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:43:18am

re: #686 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Anyway, sure, he could be gay. Greenwald is gay and just appeared on Fox news. There are black GOP members, gay GOP members. Not many of them, but don’t mistake rarity with impossibility.

I have a gay Republican cousin who is in a leadership position here in DC.

777 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:43:26am

re: #773 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

That’s a pretty half-hearted attempt. He could have at least used a proxy.

You’d think one of his black lovers would’ve stepped in…

778 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:43:46am

re: #770 Gus

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Dude, I want everyone to live long and prosper.
Sheesh.

779 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:44:07am

re: #764 Varek Raith

What is with this stupid defense team?

Disagree with “stupid” characterization. Their main job is to establish reasonable doubt for self-defense and it seems pretty solid to me.

780 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:44:07am

re: #768 Targetpractice

Thanks for that explanation. I came in on the tail end, and it just didn’t look very good. Didn’t even know someone had actually written a “book” about it. Wonder if he gave the money to Z? Was that discussed at all?

781 dragonath  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:44:48am

re: #771 Lidane

“Formed”?

782 piratedan  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:44:51am

re: #763 Killgore Trout

Who could have guessed the Muslim Bros wouldn’t leave power peacefully?
/

well in their “defense” they were just recently elected. Now if they had stated that they were going to hold new elections or referendums, but yeah, they’re striding into Kevin Bacon’s “All is Well!!!!” territory here

783 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:45:14am

re: #777 Sol Berdinowitz

You’d think one of his black lovers would’ve stepped in…

Not buying the ‘black lovers’. Could be some black associates, but love is antithetical to libertarianism.

784 Lidane  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:45:57am
785 Lidane  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:46:31am

re: #781 dragonath

“Formed”?

Yep. Because we all know that a baby is fully formed in the first 20 weeks.

SCIENCE!

786 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:46:40am

re: #780 Justanotherhuman

Thanks for that explanation. I came in on the tail end, and it just didn’t look very good. Didn’t even know someone had actually written a “book” about it. Wonder if he gave the money to Z? Was that discussed at all?

I admit I was out of the room for part of it, so I don’t know if they touched much on why he wrote the book. My guess is that he didn’t tell his “best friend ever” he was going to divulge the contents of personal communications like that.

787 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:46:45am

re: #784 Lidane

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In opposite universe, maybe….

788 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:47:28am

re: #779 Targetpractice

Disagree with “stupid” characterization. Their main job is to establish reasonable doubt for self-defense and it seems pretty solid to me.

I only hear the soundbites, so I don’t know shit.
;)

789 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:47:42am

re: #781 dragonath

“Formed”?

Fully formed, completely human, a child.

Despite brain connections just starting to form, the heart beating without moving blood and semi-random movement.

790 Bulworth  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:48:04am

re: #784 Lidane

That’s right, the radio talk show host who has repeatedly blamed gays and lesbians for North Korea’s nuclear threats, referred to gay rights laws as “spiritual sodomy” and warned that Rachel Maddow viewers will orchestrate an anti-Christian holocaust is upset about the lack of “intelligent discussion in public” on LGBT issues.

drops mic

791 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:48:33am

re: #782 piratedan

well in their “defense” they were just recently elected. Now if they had stated that they were going to hold new elections or referendums, but yeah, they’re striding into Kevin Bacon’s “All is Well!!!!” territory here

I think it’s also lucky that they haven’t had much time to set up private militias and arm themselves.

792 GunstarGreen  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:48:34am

re: #789 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Fully formed, completely human, a child.

Despite brain connections just starting to form, the heart beating without moving blood and semi-random movement.

He knows he can’t use ‘living’, so he’s trying to move the goalposts.

Scumbag.

793 Gus  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:48:38am

re: #775 Charles Johnson

Projection.

On a similar vein…

794 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:48:59am

re: #784 Lidane

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Ah, that old chestnut. “It’s all a choice and they can be stopped if society tells them its wrong!”

795 piratedan  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:49:13am

re: #785 Lidane

Yep. Because we all know that a baby is fully formed in the first 20 weeks.

SCIENCE!

Steve also doesn’t show any pain to outside stimuli when his talking points are shown to be made up of misguided extrapolations from his invisible sky buddy. Wish I could scrape his idiocy from my memory banks.

796 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:49:35am

re: #789 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Fully formed, completely human, a child.

Despite brain connections just starting to form, the heart beating without moving blood and semi-random movement.

797 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:49:36am

re: #789 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Fully formed, completely human, a child.

Despite brain connections just starting to form, the heart beating without moving blood and semi-random movement.

Do not even try those arguments on them, the second a sperm meets an egg, God’s miracle has taken place and it is a Mortal Sin to interfere with its development.

There is no reasoning or compromising with people who claim a monopoly on the Divine Truth. We can only hope to limit the amount of damage they can do and reverse what they have accomplished already.

798 Bulworth  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:49:39am

re: #785 Lidane

Fully-formed before conception!!!!!

//

799 Iwouldprefernotto  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:50:02am

re: #793 Gus

Snowden Emerges with Bizarre New Remarks, Implies that He Might Be Assassinate.

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His character has been assassinated. The wound was self inflicted.

800 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:50:50am

BBL

801 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:51:03am

re: #798 Bulworth

Fully-formed before conception!!!!!

//

Start sending your used feminine hygiene products in, ladies. And invest in plenty of crime scene tape.

//

802 Gus  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:51:10am
803 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:51:25am

re: #793 Gus

On a similar vein…

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For what, revealing what most world leaders/intel agencies already know?
Okely dokely.

804 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:51:42am

Okey dokie…
//

805 dragonath  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:52:14am

re: #802 Gus

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Well, fuck.

806 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:52:40am

re: #804 NJDhockeyfan

Okey dokie…
//

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What was it Palin said about Revere?

807 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:52:59am

re: #804 NJDhockeyfan

Okey dokie…
//

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I totally remember reading about how Paul Revere spent the entire Revolutionary War hiding out in a Spanish seaport, begging for asylum in Portugal and France.

808 Gus  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:53:28am

re: #804 NJDhockeyfan

Okey dokie…
//

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Derp. That would be like Paul Revere screaming out “the British are coming” and then hoping on a boat to China. Or something.

809 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:54:20am

re: #374 William Barnett-Lewis

Pool on how long this sock lasts?

I’ll take 2 hours.

Yep. Just about 2 hours ;) Buh-bye!

810 Gus  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:54:28am

re: #805 dragonath

Well, fuck.

Pretty typical. From Deputy Prime Minister Beşir Atalay.

811 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:55:02am

re: #807 Vicious Babushka

I totally remember reading about how Paul Revere spent the entire Revolutionary War hiding out in Spanish seaports, begging for asylum to Portugal and France.

Here is Snowden on one of his better days.

Youtube Video

812 Gus  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:55:17am

SINISTER ELEMENTS RELATED TO WESTERN ZIONIST ENTITIES AND IMPERIALIST AMERICANS ARE PLOTTING TO DESTROY THE FABRIC OF THIS NATION! ARISE CITIZENS! //

813 Gus  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:56:18am

re: #810 Gus

Pretty typical. From Deputy Prime Minister Beşir Atalay.

814 wrenchwench  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:57:17am

re: #802 Gus

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He has a defender here:


More in his TL.

815 dragonath  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:57:23am

Because only responsible media broadcasts penguins when the rabble protests!

816 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:57:47am

Youtube Video

Amazing video showing today’s failed Russian rocket launch.

Things of note. It appears that the range safety officer didn’t trigger the safeties - the rocket came apart and blew up after hitting the ground, even though it was quickly apparent that the rocket was not behaving properly - it was rocking over, and another video clearly shows one of the engines not firing properly.

This launch failure will have repercussions for the Russian commercial satellite business, since this is another failure among its launches in the past few years. It doesn’t appear to be an issue with the manned launches that rely on a different engine configuration.

817 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:58:05am

re: #808 Gus

Derp. That would be like Paul Revere screaming out “the British are coming” and then hoping on a boat to China. Or something.

“I remember Paul Revere. Paul Revere was a friend of mine. You are no Paul Revere.”

818 piratedan  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:58:20am

re: #796 Vicious Babushka

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and that’s why “progressives” think that this “pro-life” stuff is utter bullshit. In the Venn Diagram of what constitutes “pro-life” groups, you don’t see much intersection with the forced birthers and the anti-death penalty and anti-war groups. I may not agree with those folks (anti-DP, anti-war) but I understand their convictions. The forced birthers are just scared people who don’t understand sexuality, don’t see women as having rights over their own bodies and are looking for some misguided cause to wrap their own purity issues around. You don’t see these asshats doing anything for all of the abused and neglected kids we already have.

819 Wile E. Wonka  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:59:58am

re: #778 Varek Raith

Dude, I want everyone to live long and prosper.
Sheesh.

My reaction was “hey, just because some of us take a long enough view that our dreams are of a future that will outlive us all…”

Come to think of it, a lot of these right-wing positions make much more sense in the context of a gibbering fear of your own mortality, too terrified to even conceive of a world that goes on without you in it, desperately hungry for a sense of certainty that your personal point of view is the Objective Truth…

Okay, fine, it’s probably a point that someone’s already done to death. But hey, if I didn’t reinvent the wheel every once in a while, where would I be? :)

820 GunstarGreen  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:00:22am

re: #818 piratedan

and that’s why “progressives” think that this “pro-life” stuff is utter bullshit. In the Venn Diagram of what constitutes “pro-life” groups, you don’t see much intersection with the forced birthers and the anti-death penalty and anti-war groups. I may not agree with those folks (anti-DP, anti-war) but I understand their convictions. The forced birthers are just scared people who don’t understand sexuality, don’t see women as having rights over their own bodies and are looking for some misguided cause to wrap their own purity issues around. You don’t see these asshats doing anything for all of the abused and neglected kids we already have.

The clergy wants to make sure each and every conceived child is carried to term.

So that the priesthood can molest them later.

821 Lidane  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:05:33am


Yes, it’s the Great Orange Satan. Read it anyway.

822 dragonath  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:05:35am

re: #816 lawhawk

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This launch failure will have repercussions for the Russian commercial satellite business, since this is another failure among its launches in the past few years. It doesn’t appear to be an issue with the manned launches that rely on a different engine configuration.

Virgin could buy them out and they could advertise it as a permanent trip to a different astral dimension.

823 Lidane  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:07:27am

re: #804 NJDhockeyfan

Okey dokie…
//

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Except in Snowden’s case, “light in the belfry” is a description, not a signpost.

824 b.d.  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:08:32am

re: #804 NJDhockeyfan

Okey dokie…
//
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The British are coming! Approx. 500 militia troops gathering in Lexington! George Washington has wooden teeth!


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