Ecuador President Correa: “It Was a Mistake” to Help Snowden

Under the bus
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Today we learn that Ecuadorean president Rafael Correa is throwing Edward Snowden under the bus.

Ecuador is not considering Edward Snowden’s asylum request and never intended to facilitate his flight from Hong Kong, president Rafael Correa said as the whistleblower made a personal plea to Quito for his case to be heard.

Snowden was Russia’s responsibility and would have to reach Ecuadorean territory before the country would consider any asylum request, the president said in an interview on Monday.

“Are we responsible for getting him to Ecuador? It’s not logical. The country that has to give him a safe conduct document is Russia.”

The president, speaking to the Guardian at the presidential palace in Quito, said his government did not intentionally help Snowden travel from Hong Kong to Moscow with a temporary travel pass. “It was a mistake on our part,” he added.

UPDATE at 7/2/13 10:06:54 am

Map: Tracking How Countries Are Answering Snowden’s Asylum Requests

Snowden is alone in a vast, dark ocean full of sharks.

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173 comments
1 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:57:42am

ah…the glamorous life of an international spy…

//

2 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:57:48am

The “mistake” of course being Assange working a London consul while everybody who could have put a stop to this was out of town and unreachable at 4am.

I’m beginning to wonder how long Ecuador will put up with this shit before Assange’s welcome in their embassy is deemed to be overstayed.

3 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:57:52am

Here’s a rundown of what countries are saying about Snowden’s asylum requests:
• Austria: His request is not valid, because applicants must be in Austria and submit their applications in person.
• Bolivia: Despite WikiLeaks’ statement, Morales, the Bolivian president, said Bolivia has not received a request for asylum on Snowden’s behalf, Itar-Tass reported.
• Brazil: The country won’t grant asylum or even respond to the request, Reuters reported Tuesday, citing a Foreign Ministry spokesman.
• China: The Ministry of Foreign Affairs said Tuesday it had no information to offer on Snowden’s case.
• Cuba: No response yet.
• Ecuador: The South American country has said that it’s considering Snowden’s request but that he needs to reach its territory.
• Finland: “We don’t have an official application from Snowden,” Jorma Vuorio, director general for the migration department of the Interior Ministry, told CNN. “He just left a letter requesting asylum at the Finnish Embassy in Moscow. According to Finnish legislation, it is not possible to leave an asylum application outside the Finnish territory.”
• France: Hollande, the French president, said he has “not received any particular demands from Mr. Snowden,” according to French television reports.
• Germany: Asylum requests must be made from within the country, but an Interior Ministry spokesman also said “the German right of residence principally entails the possibility of acceptance from abroad, if this seems necessary for international legal or urgent humanitarian reasons, or for the ensuring of political interests of the federal republic of Germany. This needs to be examined thoroughly in the case of Mr. Snowden.”
• Iceland: Officials have said asylum seekers need to be in Icelandic territory in order to apply.
• India: Ministry of External Affairs spokesman Syed Akbaruddin said Tuesday that India will deny the request.
• Ireland: The Irish Justice Ministry declined to confirm whether it had received a request on Snowden’s behalf, but said Irish law requires that applicants reach the country’s borders before a request can be considered.
• Italy: The Italian Foreign Ministry said it received an asylum request by fax. The country accepts requests done in Italian territory or at the border, the ministry said.
• The Netherlands: Snowden would need to be in Holland to formally request shelter, a spokesman for the Dutch state secretary said Tuesday.
• Nicaragua: No response yet.
• Norway: The country confirms the receipt of his request, but usually, asylum seekers must be in the country already to be allowed to apply. The Ministry of Justice is considering whether or not to process his application.
• Poland: Snowden’s request for asylum doesn’t fulfill requirements, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs said Tuesday.
• Russia: Snowden has withdrawn his request for permission to stay in Russia, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Tuesday, according to the news agency RIA Novosti.
• Spain: The country is not reviewing Snowden’s request because it must be made from within or on its borders, a Foreign Ministry spokeswoman said.
• Switzerland: Applicants for political asylum have to be on Swiss soil, a spokeswoman for the Swiss federal office for migration said Tuesday. Swiss authorities aren’t aware of any application by Snowden, the spokeswoman said.
• Venezuela: “We haven’t been asked for help, but when he asks, he will have an answer,” Maduro, the Venezuelan president, said Tuesday.

4 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:58:21am

Snowden is so fucked.

5 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:58:39am

DERP

6 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:59:15am

re: #3 Vicious Babushka

He’s missing a couple other countries who may welcome him with open arms…North Korea or Iran.

7 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 9:59:55am

re: #6 NJDhockeyfan

He’s missing a couple other countries who may welcome him with open arms…North Korea or Iran.

He doesn’t want to apply to countries that don’t have Teh Internets.

8 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:00:21am

re: #5 Vicious Babushka

DERP

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Aw, somebody’s feeling left out.

9 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:00:54am

re: #5 Vicious Babushka

“facts or evidence”. Right. Just like his actual reporting was light on facts or evidence that the NSA actually broke US law, misrepresented the information he obtained, and treated his allegations as truth (to power).

10 efuseakay  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:01:34am

President Correa Obvious speaks.

11 abolitionist  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:02:28am

SAFEPASS xc560-5b4f588.pdf

12 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:02:39am

Greenwald got into a Twitter fight with Mediaite’s Tommy Christopher today, spewing insults and flat out lying about things he’d said previously.

13 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:02:58am
14 efuseakay  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:05:35am

re: #5 Vicious Babushka

What a douche. Everything he’s ever written has been based off assumptions.

15 ProTARDISLiberal  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:06:07am

re: #13 NJDhockeyfan

If Norway, of all nations, declines your request, you really don’t deserve asylum at all.

16 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:06:09am

On topic:


OT (Developing):

Reports of a gunfight in Kitkat Square in Cairo between Morsi supporters and the opposition.

17 piratedan  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:06:27am

re: #5 Vicious Babushka

DERP

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yeah because all we have are Snowden’s statements that he did so…. and GG this helps your cause exactly how again?

18 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:09:15am
19 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:09:29am

re: #13 NJDhockeyfan

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Looking at that map, doesn’t look like Snowden’s going anywhere anytime soon. Ecuador very likely won’t help him now that Assange has poked his nose into things. Venezuela is at best iffy. And most of the rest of the countries have either said “No” or put the proviso that any asylum request has to be in person.

I’m wondering if Assange is now going to try to find some way to sneak him out the back door and to an embassy.

20 Big Steve  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:10:00am

Just wondering if on any threads regarding Snowden are we required to turn on the LGF Spy Mode?

21 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:10:49am

re: #16 lawhawk

OT (Developing):

Reports of a gunfight in Kitkat Square in Cairo between Morsi supporters and the opposition.

I wonder if that is related to this report.


22 ProTARDISLiberal  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:11:47am

re: #21 NJDhockeyfan

And their true colors come out.

Time for the military to come out to play.

23 b.d.  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:11:58am

I wonder what the “true progressive’s” newly founded Ecuador Admiration Society has to say about all this?

24 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:12:22am
25 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:12:39am

Of course, another thing to keep in mind is that, even if a country grants his asylum request, without a passport he is at Putin’s mercy. And I would not be surprised if Putin is looking seriously at putting him on the first plane to D.C.

26 ProTARDISLiberal  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:13:01am

Look at the picture attached to this Tweet.

Notice the Saudi Flag? That is where the allegiance of these scum is.

27 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:13:05am

I wonder if the Ecuadorean request would have gone through if Assange hadn’t activated his big mouth.

28 Lidane  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:15:24am

re: #27 Vicious Babushka

I wonder if the Ecuadorean request would have gone through if Assange hadn’t activated his big mouth.

Good question.

Ecuador seemed open to the idea before Wikileaks and Assange got involved. Now, Snowden is fucked.

29 b.d.  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:15:38am

re: #27 Vicious Babushka

I wonder if the Ecuadorean request would have gone through if Assange hadn’t activated his big mouth.

Ambassador Assange needs to stand up to those bullies in Quito!!

/

30 Interesting Times  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:15:52am

OT: While Texas and Ohio slip into the clutches of theocracy, another country may finally be breaking free:

31 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:15:57am
32 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:16:00am

re: #27 Vicious Babushka

I wonder if the Ecuadorean request would have gone through if Assange hadn’t activated his big mouth.

Considering the report up top, probably not. Seems like Ecuador is like a lot of the countries that Snowden has sought asylum, namely their laws require any asylum seekers to be on their sovereign soil when the request is made.

33 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:16:19am

re: #18 Vicious Babushka

People in my feed are performing wild verbal gymnastics to define Greenwald’s “basically done” to mean “not done.”

So they are basically (not) fucked…

34 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:17:28am

re: #22 ProTARDISLiberal

And their true colors come out.

Time for the military to come out to play.

These are not the kind of people who will let a call for martyrdom go unanswered…besides, if they wait too long, all the good-looking virgins will be taken, and they’ll get stuck with the ugly ones…

35 ProTARDISLiberal  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:19:14am

This guy, he has my thoughts:

36 Lidane  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:20:06am

re: #34 Sol Berdinowitz

These are not the kind of people who will let a call for martyrdom go unanswered…besides, if they wait too long, all the good-looking virgins will be taken, and they’ll get stuck with the ugly ones…

If there actually was such a thing as a God, I would hope they’d have a sense of humor and answer any “martyrdom” with a harem of 72 neckbeards from Comic-Con.

37 b.d.  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:20:53am
People in my feed are performing wild verbal gymnastics to define Greenwald’s “basically done” to mean “not done.”

Is Cesca using the English to Greenwald dictionary?

He has different meanings for a lot of words: direct access, basically, illegal, earthshattering, etc.

38 efuseakay  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:22:01am

re: #30 Interesting Times

OT: While Texas and Ohio slip into the clutches of theocracy, another country may finally be breaking free:

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A little too late unfortunately, but it’ a step in the right direction.

39 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:23:49am
40 efuseakay  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:24:14am

re: #25 Targetpractice

Of course, another thing to keep in mind is that, even if a country grants his asylum request, without a passport he is at Putin’s mercy. And I would not be surprised if Putin is looking seriously at putting him on the first plane to D.C.

Vlad, either give us Snowden or we are taking that Super Bowl ring back.

41 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:24:54am
42 efuseakay  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:25:41am

re: #36 Lidane

If there actually was such a thing as a God, I would hope they’d have a sense of humor and answer any “martyrdom” with a harem of 72 neckbeards from Comic-Con.

God’s a kid with an ant farm, lady. He’s not planning anything.

43 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:27:40am

re: #42 efuseakay

God’s a kid with an ant farm, lady. He’s not planning anything.

Fucking love that movie.

44 thedopefishlives  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:27:45am

re: #25 Targetpractice

Of course, another thing to keep in mind is that, even if a country grants his asylum request, without a passport he is at Putin’s mercy. And I would not be surprised if Putin is looking seriously at putting him on the first plane to D.C.

Putin has balls of steel, but he knows that Edward Snowden isn’t worth starting World War III over.

45 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:29:15am

re: #44 thedopefishlives

Putin has balls of steel, but he knows that Edward Snowden isn’t worth starting World War III over.

I’m of the opinion that he’s just fucking with us, tweaking Obama’s nose because he can.

46 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:29:34am
47 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:31:08am

re: #43 Targetpractice

Whoa.

48 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:31:53am
49 thedopefishlives  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:32:03am

re: #45 Targetpractice

I’m of the opinion that he’s just fucking with us, tweaking Obama’s nose because he can.

Oh, I’m sure he is. It’s a fun game for him to play - Obama’s not looking to pick a fight any more than Putin is, and they both know it. However, it appears to be a foregone conclusion that Snowden will be leaving Moscow sooner rather than later, and by all indications, the destination will be a welcoming committee of US federal agents.

50 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:35:06am

re: #46 NJDhockeyfan

They probably don’t pay enough and would get annoyed if he tweets during working hours.
/

51 b.d.  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:36:05am
we’re(DailyBanter, not me) running a ‘Glenn Greenwald Porn Title’ competition, where readers get to make up porn titles that Glenn himself would sign off on. The prize? Your very own Daily Banter T-shirt!

Link

Background:

most bizarrely, involvement in a porn company called ‘Hairy Jocks’. Apparently, Greenwald and his business
/snip
distributing videos on hairystuds.com.

52 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:37:10am

re: #44 thedopefishlives

Putin has balls of steel, but he knows that Edward Snowden isn’t worth starting World War III over.

Damn, that must be painful when they clank.

53 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:39:09am
54 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:40:24am

He can scratch Germany off the list…

55 thedopefishlives  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:40:28am

re: #53 NJDhockeyfan

Now, if we could get him delivered via a rusty RV, hog-tied and gagged with a Christmas bow on his head…

56 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:41:05am

re: #54 NJDhockeyfan

He can scratch Germany off the list…

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The list of places to turn is growing smaller and smaller.

57 b.d.  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:42:40am

re: #54 NJDhockeyfan

He can scratch Germany off the list…

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Somebody better tie a pork chop around Snowden’s neck because he sure is running out of friends fast.

58 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:43:28am

re: #54 NJDhockeyfan

The weird thing is that he’s asking for asylum, but what he really needs right now is a travel document.

59 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:43:59am

re: #58 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

The weird thing is that he’s asking for asylum, but what he really needs right now is a travel document.

His travel agent is failing.

60 darthstar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:45:22am

Great Mandela sculpture.

Image: Nelson-Mandela-steel-sculpture.jpg

61 b.d.  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:45:29am

re: #59 NJDhockeyfan

His travel agent is failing.

Typically guys trapped in Russia seem to be better writers than Snowden is.

62 darthstar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:46:25am

re: #56 Targetpractice

The list of places to turn is growing smaller and smaller.

This calls for some Kafka

Franz Kafka
A Little Fable
“Alas,” said the mouse, “the whole world is growing smaller every day. At the beginning it was so big that I was afraid, I kept running and running, and I was glad when I saw walls far away to the right and left, but these long walls have narrowed so quickly that I am in the last chamber already, and there in the corner stands the trap that I must run into.”

“You only need to change your direction,” said the cat, and ate it up.

63 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:47:20am

re: #60 darthstar

Great Mandela sculpture.

Image: Nelson-Mandela-steel-sculpture.jpg

Freakn’ beautiful.

64 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:47:24am

re: #28 Lidane

Good question.

Ecuador seemed open to the idea before Wikileaks and Assange got involved. Now, Snowden is fucked.

I guess Oliver Stone, Noam Chomsky and the rest of the moonbats who signed that asylum request to Ecuador need to find a new country.

65 geoffm33  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:47:30am

re: #55 thedopefishlives

Now, if we could get him delivered via a rusty RV, hog-tied and gagged with a Christmas bow on his head…

upding for Xmas Vacation ref

66 darthstar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:48:32am

Image: 1017465_618030124882363_1715177195_n.jpg

67 b.d.  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:50:22am

Noriega lasted 10 days in the Vatican Embassy, Snowden is on day 9(?) of a Russian airport.

68 BroncD  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:50:50am

A country that’s hostile to the press isn’t willing to help out a confessed whistle-blower? I couldn’t see that one coming.

69 darthstar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:52:30am

ROFLMAO

70 bratwurst  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:53:05am

CNN is now broadcasting Sean Hannity’s interview with George Zimmerman from last year because it is being shown in court. It seems like one of the (very) few benefits of watching CNN should be NOT having to see Sean Hannity.

71 dragonath  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:53:12am

re: #69 darthstar

ROFLMAO

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Sounds like a review for the new Mac Pro.

72 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:54:28am

DERP

73 Mattand  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:55:04am

re: #2 Targetpractice

The “mistake” of course being Assange working a London consul while everybody who could have put a stop to this was out of town and unreachable at 4am.

I’m beginning to wonder how long Ecuador will put up with this shit before Assange’s welcome in their embassy is deemed to be overstayed.

Apologies for the repeat question, but what does Ecuador gain by giving asylum to Assange and, up until today, Snowden?

I just don’t get it. Are they trying to makes themselves into a major player on the spy scene or something?

74 Kragar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:56:05am

re: #72 Vicious Babushka

DERP

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So is she for or against big government today?

76 Mattand  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:56:23am

re: #72 Vicious Babushka

DERP

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Dana picking a fight with Wonkette. This should be good.

Apparently, she’s not aware of the old phrase “Showing up at a gun fight with a knife.”

78 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:56:46am

boingboing.net

79 Kragar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:57:19am

Rod Parsley Prophecy Special: Gays Destroy Civilization, Obamacare Will Require Chip Implants - See more at: rightwingwatch.org

Rick Wiles Laments Lack of ‘Intelligent Discussion’ on Gay Rights, Warns of Gay ‘Nazism’ - See more at: rightwingwatch.org

Crouse: Gay Marriage Will Lead to the ‘Imprisonment’ of Christians - See more at: rightwingwatch.org

These guys need to get out more.

80 darthstar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:57:40am

re: #78 NJDhockeyfan

boingboing.net

Renew!

81 Kragar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:58:02am

re: #76 Mattand

Dana picking a fight with Wonkette. This should be good.

Apparently, she’s not aware of the old phrase “Showing up at a gun fight with a knife.”

Nothing is as much fun as a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.

82 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:58:14am
83 Lidane  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:58:28am

Another factor in the current Texas abortion debate:

Sister Act: Gov. Perry’s Little-Known Sister is a Lobbyist for Lucrative Doctor-Owned Hospitals

84 darthstar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:58:52am
85 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:59:32am

Meanwhile, guess who’s been trying over and over to register another sock puppet account?

86 SpaceJesus  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 10:59:59am

Barret Brown

87 BongCrodny  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:00:19am

re: #75 Vicious Babushka

Here is the Wonkette article that got Dana all butthurt.

She had me at “sniveling rage sack.”

88 SpaceJesus  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:00:21am

oh wait he’s in jail

89 BroncD  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:00:24am

re: #85 Charles Johnson

Don’t tease.

90 Mattand  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:00:28am

re: #85 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, guess who’s been trying over and over to register another sock puppet account?

Sean Hannity.

91 dragonath  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:00:45am

re: #82 NJDhockeyfan

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Hey look, a Palestinian flag in the avatar.

92 Kragar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:01:01am

re: #85 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, guess who’s been trying over and over to register another sock puppet account?

Greenwald?

93 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:01:58am

re: #92 Kragar

The cretin from the previous thread.

94 Lidane  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:02:04am

BTW, I’m seeing that the Texas GOP “accidentally” let the anti-choice side know early when to register to tesitfy for the new abortion bill. Right now my Twitter and FB feeds are filled with people encouraging each other to go and register now .

Typical Republican corruption in this state.

95 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:02:30am

re: #85 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, guess who’s been trying over and over to register another sock puppet account?

Lee Majors?

96 Bulworth  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:02:32am

re: #74 Kragar

Yes

97 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:02:32am

re: #85 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, guess who’s been trying over and over to register another sock puppet account?

Ed Snowden!

98 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:02:35am

re: #93 Charles Johnson

The cretin from the previous thread.

That towering genius who’d been offered an NSA job and was so much smarter than you?

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99 efuseakay  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:02:43am

re: #79 Kragar

Rod Parsley Prophecy Special: Gays Destroy Civilization, Obamacare Will Require Chip Implants - See more at: rightwingwatch.org

Rick Wiles Laments Lack of ‘Intelligent Discussion’ on Gay Rights, Warns of Gay ‘Nazism’ - See more at: rightwingwatch.org

Crouse: Gay Marriage Will Lead to the ‘Imprisonment’ of Christians - See more at: rightwingwatch.org

These guys need to get out more laid.

Corrected for accuracy.

100 efuseakay  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:03:08am

re: #81 Kragar

Nothing is as much fun as a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.

It’s just a flesh wound!

101 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:03:25am

re: #85 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, guess who’s been trying over and over to register another sock puppet account?

Zimmerman?

102 Kragar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:04:11am

re: #93 Charles Johnson

The cretin from the previous thread.

Ah, I dove into this one this morning without checking the last.

103 thedopefishlives  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:04:17am

re: #98 Targetpractice

That towering genius who’d been offered an NSA job and was so much smarter than you?

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The hell did I miss?

104 Bulworth  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:04:39am

re: #79 Kragar

Rod Parsley Prophecy Special: Gays Destroy Civilization, Obamacare Will Require Chip Implants -

No problem. Everyone wants implants, just like every woman wants ultrasounds. //

105 geoffm33  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:04:48am

re: #103 thedopefishlives

The hell did I miss?

It was quite entertaining, sorry you missed it.

106 Lidane  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:05:04am
107 efuseakay  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:05:15am

re: #47 lawhawk

Whoa.

Constantine. It’s great.

108 thedopefishlives  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:07:27am

re: #105 geoffm33

It was quite entertaining, sorry you missed it.

I always miss all the hot troll action. I don’t usually sign in when I’m at work. But it’s 2 days to vacation and my boss just passed along word that I’m still a rock star, so I’m feeling reckless.

109 Kragar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:07:54am

India: ‘We see no reason’ to grant Snowden asylum

“Indian Embassy in Moscow did receive a request for asylum in a communication dated 30 June from Mr Edward Snowden,” Syed Akbaruddin, a spokesman for India’s foreign ministry, said on Twitter.

“Following careful examination we have concluded that we see no reason to accede to the Snowden request,” he said.

110 Iwouldprefernotto  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:08:02am

re: #75 Vicious Babushka

Here is the Wonkette article that got Dana all butthurt.

Loved it.

111 Bulworth  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:08:21am

re: #108 thedopefishlives

Translated that means “Sign in to LGF!”

112 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:08:46am

re: #106 Lidane

Note to Vigilantes, doofuses and sociopaths: don’t do the interview with Hannity
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) July 2, 2013

Hannity’s Fanboy interview with Killerman revealed yet more inconsistencies in his account of what happened that night: globalgrind.com

113 thedopefishlives  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:09:28am

re: #109 Kragar

India: ‘We see no reason’ to grant Snowden asylum

The fat lady has stepped out on the stage. Maestro, cue the music.

114 AlexRogan  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:10:51am

re: #3 Vicious Babushka

Here’s a rundown of what countries are saying about Snowden’s asylum requests:
• Austria: His request is not valid, because applicants must be in Austria and submit their applications in person.
• Bolivia: Despite WikiLeaks’ statement, Morales, the Bolivian president, said Bolivia has not received a request for asylum on Snowden’s behalf, Itar-Tass reported.
• Brazil: The country won’t grant asylum or even respond to the request, Reuters reported Tuesday, citing a Foreign Ministry spokesman.
• China: The Ministry of Foreign Affairs said Tuesday it had no information to offer on Snowden’s case.
• Cuba: No response yet.
• Ecuador: The South American country has said that it’s considering Snowden’s request but that he needs to reach its territory.
• Finland: “We don’t have an official application from Snowden,” Jorma Vuorio, director general for the migration department of the Interior Ministry, told CNN. “He just left a letter requesting asylum at the Finnish Embassy in Moscow. According to Finnish legislation, it is not possible to leave an asylum application outside the Finnish territory.”
• France: Hollande, the French president, said he has “not received any particular demands from Mr. Snowden,” according to French television reports.
• Germany: Asylum requests must be made from within the country, but an Interior Ministry spokesman also said “the German right of residence principally entails the possibility of acceptance from abroad, if this seems necessary for international legal or urgent humanitarian reasons, or for the ensuring of political interests of the federal republic of Germany. This needs to be examined thoroughly in the case of Mr. Snowden.”
• Iceland: Officials have said asylum seekers need to be in Icelandic territory in order to apply.
• India: Ministry of External Affairs spokesman Syed Akbaruddin said Tuesday that India will deny the request.
• Ireland: The Irish Justice Ministry declined to confirm whether it had received a request on Snowden’s behalf, but said Irish law requires that applicants reach the country’s borders before a request can be considered.
• Italy: The Italian Foreign Ministry said it received an asylum request by fax. The country accepts requests done in Italian territory or at the border, the ministry said.
• The Netherlands: Snowden would need to be in Holland to formally request shelter, a spokesman for the Dutch state secretary said Tuesday.
• Nicaragua: No response yet.
• Norway: The country confirms the receipt of his request, but usually, asylum seekers must be in the country already to be allowed to apply. The Ministry of Justice is considering whether or not to process his application.
• Poland: Snowden’s request for asylum doesn’t fulfill requirements, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs said Tuesday.
• Russia: Snowden has withdrawn his request for permission to stay in Russia, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Tuesday, according to the news agency RIA Novosti.
• Spain: The country is not reviewing Snowden’s request because it must be made from within or on its borders, a Foreign Ministry spokeswoman said.
• Switzerland: Applicants for political asylum have to be on Swiss soil, a spokeswoman for the Swiss federal office for migration said Tuesday. Swiss authorities aren’t aware of any application by Snowden, the spokeswoman said.
• Venezuela: “We haven’t been asked for help, but when he asks, he will have an answer,” Maduro, the Venezuelan president, said Tuesday.

Sounds like Snowden is well and truly fucked…

115 Lidane  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:11:37am

re: #112 Dr. Matt

Hannity’s Fanboy interview with Killerman revealed yet more inconsistencies in his account of what happened that night: globalgrind.com

Yep. And it’s being played in open court.

Youtube Video

116 Kragar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:11:40am

re: #113 thedopefishlives

The fat lady has stepped out on the stage. Maestro, cue the music.

Snowden has a blind date with destiny, and it looks like she ordered the lobster.

118 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:13:55am

So, as the two particles of doesnt-matter circle closer and closer in their mutual orbits while emitting lookatme! waves the question still remains about which has heavily played the other as a fool.

119 b.d.  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:14:12am

Snowden should be the new preznit of Egypt.

Problem solved for everyone.

120 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:16:09am

Man lived for 18 years at CDG Airport in France.

But CDG is luxury digs compared to Sheremetevyo.

121 Iwouldprefernotto  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:16:28am

re: #117 Kragar

Ohio School District Offering Summer Course in David Barton’s Revisionist History

From the page:
As RWW readers know, David Barton is the discredited “historian” whose most recent book on the nation’s “Christian heritage” was pulled by its conservative Christian publisher because it was riddled with factual errors. John Eidsmoe is a leading Christian Reconstructionist thinker and intellectual mentor of Michele Bachmann. - See more at: rightwingwatch.org

Can Bachmann get a refund?

122 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:17:58am

re: #117 Kragar

Ohio School District Offering Summer Course in David Barton’s Revisionist History

Teach the Constitutioversy!

123 b.d.  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:18:05am

re: #120 Vicious Babushka

Man lived for 18 years at CDG Airport in France.

But CDG is luxury digs compared to Sheremetevyo.

That guy went quite mad too.

124 Kragar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:19:08am

Reports Of Gunfire In Cairo

125 Mattand  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:19:37am

re: #121 Iwouldprefernotto

John Eidsmoe is a leading Christian Reconstructionist thinker and intellectual mentor of Michele Bachmann.

Can Bachmann get a refund?

Jesus, the fact she got tutored in her brand of crazy means there’s a conservative even more fucked up than her.

126 Kragar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:20:28am
127 thedopefishlives  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:20:32am

re: #125 Mattand

Jesus, the fact she got tutored in her brand of crazy means there’s a conservative even more fucked up than her.

Well, we already knew that. Just look at Texas.

128 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:21:02am
129 Lidane  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:22:18am
130 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:22:23am

Pretty picture break!

Fountain and City Hall

131 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:22:30am

re: #93 Charles Johnson

The cretin from the previous thread.

Of all the gin joints, in all the blogs, in all the Intertubes, you wonder what brought him here.

132 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:22:59am

re: #131 Decatur Deb

He obviously came for the waters.

133 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:23:44am

re: #132 Feline Fearless Leader

He obviously came for the waters.

He was misinformed.

134 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:23:50am

re: #131 Decatur Deb

Of all the gin joints, in all the blogs, in all the Intertubes, you wonder what brought him here.

It was a GG Fanboy. Nuff said.

135 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:24:34am

Wingnuts hoping for another Benghazi in Egypt.

136 Minor_L  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:25:09am

Wow, Greenwald literally cannot engage with anyone in a civil conversation. He appears compelled to drop “good little worshipper” or whatever is his chosen ad hominem for the day. He is not only embarrassing himself, but showing that he can’t defend his own arguments.

137 Kragar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:27:04am

And I see Bryan is on his gay = pedophile kick again:

138 Bulworth  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:27:14am

re: #135 Vicious Babushka

‘Legacy Media’? Is this the new ‘lamestream media’?

139 Bulworth  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:28:37am

re: #137 Kragar

Confirmed. FACT.
//

140 Gus  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:29:01am
141 BongCrodny  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:29:46am

re: #116 Kragar

Snowden has a blind date with destiny, and it looks like she ordered the lobster.

First “Constantine” and now “Mystery Men”?

Did I die and go to Awesomely Bad Movie heaven today?

142 Gus  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:30:09am
143 Gus  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:30:44am

“like a good worshipper” Because that’s how professional journalists debate.

144 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:31:02am

re: #140 Gus

Noah Rothman is totally in the bag for Greenwald.

145 BeenHereAwhile  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:32:54am

re: #59 NJDhockeyfan

His travel agent is failing.

Youtube Video

146 dragonath  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:35:56am

re: #128 Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

I tried that without knowing what it was.

It was horrible.

147 Minor_L  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:35:56am

re: #143 Gus

He’s obviously unable to make a cogent argument, or tackle the questions on their merits. That’s what that tells me.

Huge credit to Tommy Christopher for engaging in a completely civil manner. It didn’t read as “tense” to me. Greenwald is just whiny and affronted that anyone would challenge him. Christopher remained completely calm and made great arguments.

148 Lidane  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:36:12am

Posted by an Egyptian friend of mine here in Austin:

What did I do today? Run errands and go to the dog park.

What did my 65 year old parents do? Join a revolution to take back their country from the fanatics. So PROUD of you! (and feeling lame at the same time)

149 dragonath  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:37:24am

re: #135 Vicious Babushka

Image: 130701-obama-egypt-060.jpg

CONSPIRACEEEEE

150 dragonath  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:38:46am

BTW, the Obama logo looks suspiciously like the Wellmont Heath System logo. Obviously this means…

Image: wellmont_2013-300x237.jpg

151 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:39:22am

re: #149 dragonath

Image: 130701-obama-egypt-060.jpg

CONSPIRACEEEEE

Muslim Teabaggers? Wow.

153 Kragar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:40:08am

re: #151 Dr. Matt

Muslim Teabaggers? Wow.

Derp knows no boundaries.

154 dragonath  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:40:23am

EQUALITY? YOU CAN’T EXPLAIN THAT!

155 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:40:31am

re: #150 dragonath

BTW, the Obama logo looks suspiciously like the Wellmont Heath System logo. Obviously this means…

Image: wellmont_2013-300x237.jpg

And let us not forget: Image: pepsi1.png

156 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:40:59am

re: #152 Kragar

Bill O’Reilly loses it over marriage equality rulings: ‘Loopholes’ are ‘B.S.’

When does BO’R not lose it over trivial BS?

157 Lidane  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:41:07am

Heh.

158 Kragar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:42:05am

re: #156 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

When does BO’R not lose it over trivial BS?

FUCK IT! WE’LL DO IT LIVE!

159 AntonSirius  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:42:28am

re: #43 Targetpractice

Fucking love that movie.

You must not have read the comic…

160 thedopefishlives  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:42:53am

re: #158 Kragar

FUCK IT! WE’LL DO IT LIVE!

We can take it out during editing.///

(An actual sarcastic commentary from the church band I mix sound for. I love those guys.)

161 Minor_L  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:42:57am

I like how Greenwald attacks with rhetorical questions instead of answering questions (“did you challenge the Obama DOJ for deciding not to prosecute Bush torturers? Neener, neener, neener!”) and then angrily complains that the other person isn’t answering his questions.

162 wrenchwench  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:43:00am


163 Kragar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:44:40am

re: #162 wrenchwench

Note to self; if the WBC ever calls 911, remind them all it was God’s will and hang up.
/

164 elizajane  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:44:41am

For some reason I cannot make a page on this computer, but over at Foreign Policy, Dan Drezner has a great post about why nobody will offer Snowdon political asylum. I think he’s spot on, but I haven’t seen this discussed anywhere else:

drezner.foreignpolicy.com

Here’s the gist of his argument:

So, what’s going on? Could it be that countries as variegated as Russia, China, and Ecuador are suddenly fearful of the coercive power of U.S. hegemony in a way that they weren’t last week?

I’d suggest an alternative hypothesis. The one thing that all of these actors have in common with the USA is that they are… states. And if there’s one thing that states of all regime types and ideologies have in common, it’s that they don’t like it when new types of entities try to f**k with their franchise.

States will war with one another, spy on one another, foment revolution across borders, and what-not. They are pretty reluctant, however to empower actors that can then use that power to try and erode the principal of the state as the ne plus ultra of governing authority. This is why countries like Iran and Russia cooperated with the United States during crucial periods of the 2001 invasion of Afghanistan and the ensuing war on terror. When states see a threat to the Westphalian order that’s been around for a few centuries, they will act in concert to repel it.

165 dragonath  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:45:17am

What if someone went nuts and ran over a bunch of Westboro loonies? Would that slow them down at all? They’re agitating for it.

166 piratedan  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:45:29am

re: #116 Kragar

bonus uptick for the Mystery Men reference :-), guess I’m going to have to eat this egg salad sandwhich.

167 Kragar  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:47:45am

“WE KILLED CAPTAIN AMAZING!”
“What do you mean we? I was over here the whole time.”

168 krypto  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:50:45am

It seems like Snowden sealed his fate with his martyr-complex-based blustering and oath to continue his classified secrets leak no matter where he is.

I can’t see why would any country, even one that is hostile to the US, would want a loose cannon like him using their territory as he sees fit for his own personal war against the US.

169 Dr. Matt  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 11:53:52am

re: #161 Minor_L

I like how Greenwald attacks with rhetorical questions instead of answering questions (“did you challenge the Obama DOJ for deciding not to prosecute Bush torturers! Neener, neener, neener!) and then angrily complains that the other person isn’t answering his questions.

Very reminiscent of the exchange between Charles and HatingBreitard yesterday.

170 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 12:04:53pm

re: #162 wrenchwench

[Embedded content]

I know their shtick is to antagonize assault, then sue for damages, but this shit is getting suicidal. There are people around here who would react ‘naturally’ under grief, and worry about the law latter.

171 macaw  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 12:05:23pm
- Cuba does not need another problem. He is not welcome here, says Mariela Castro to NRK, and stresses that this is her personal opinion.

nrk.no

Hope you can google.translate through the rest from Norwegian. Mariela is the daughter of the current sitting Castro. She says Assange and Snowden are heroes for speaking out against injustice, but sees no use in having them on Cuba. This is about friendlier relations with the United States:

In 2006, the regime signaled that they are no longer interested in protecting new American refugees. That promise would be broken if wanted Edward Snowden was even just a passenger in transit on his way to Venezuela or Ecuador.

So if Snowden had a working passport and freedom of movement, Cuba would still be off limits.

172 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 12:24:30pm

Heh.. Pagetop advert: “Live Like Royalty in Ecuador”

173 BroncD  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 1:12:35pm

Petulant

What a wonderful debater he is.


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