One Woman Sarcastically Says “Hail Satan,” Entire Right Wing Goes Into Crazy Freak-Out Mode

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Thanks to Texas State Republican Rep. Scott Sanford’s moronic tweets claiming that pro-choice demonstrators were chanting “Hail Satan!” yesterday at the Texas legislature, conservatives all over the US are in a frenzy of religious fanaticism today.

Folks, this is the 21st century, but you sure wouldn’t know it from the way these people are reacting. The #HailSatan hashtag is now trending on Twitter, and here’s a small sample of the sheer insanity pouring out of the anti-choice religious right. Some of them actually believe the #HailSatan hashtag is going to summon the Dark Lord to bring about the End of Days.

These people are, not to put too fine a point on it, nuts.

(For the record, this whole thing apparently started when one demonstrator sarcastically said “Hail Satan” to an anti-choice kook, who filmed it and spread it to the usual sources, falsely claiming that the whole crowd was “chanting” the phrase. In other words, a perfectly typical right wing fake outrage, with extra Satanic seasoning.)

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313 comments
1 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:23:01am

I hereby declare this thread to be open for business. Let the wingnut derping commence.

2 b.d.  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:23:06am

If you say Hail Satan backwards it sounds like Perry for President.

3 A Mom Anon  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:23:25am

OFFS. How the hell can sanity win over this level of off the edge insane?

4 Major Tom  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:23:26am

Those Atheist Progressives and their Satan Worship. SMH //

5 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:24:17am

Please, tell us more about the imaginary guy who you think is out to get you.

6 Minor_L  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:24:59am

You can’t make this stuff up! Oh wait, yes, someone just made it up.

7 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:25:48am

I don’t get it. Do they really think there are a bunch of Satanists out there?

Is it the 80s? I remember this happening in the 80s. Everyone was convinced there were tons of Satanists like murdering and molesting kids and then suddenly everyone realized that, shit, it’s pretty easy to get kids to agree stuff happened when you ask them leading questions.

Let’s not do that again.

8 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:25:55am

re: #6 Minor_L

You can’t make this stuff up! Oh wait, yes, someone just made it up.

But enough about Christianity and Satan.

9 Gus  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:26:16am

Derp.

10 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:26:29am

re: #7 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

They never stopped believing it. It’s just that other people stopped believing them when they made these wacky claims.

11 Blue Point  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:26:31am

They’re not crazy, they’re insane.

12 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:26:39am

Am I the only one here who had a relative who was an actual Satanist?

13 Lidane  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:26:58am

Ladies and gentlemen, the 2013 American right wing.

14 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:27:06am

re: #7 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

I don’t get it. Do they really think there are a bunch of Satanists out there?

Is it the 80s? I remember this happening in the 80s. Everyone was convinced there were tons of Satanists like murdering and molesting kids and then suddenly everyone realized that, shit, it’s pretty easy to get kids to agree stuff happened when you ask them leading questions.

Let’s not do that again.

You don’t want another trial asking why Judas Priest put subliminal messages on their albums?
/

15 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:27:52am

re: #12 Vicious Babushka

Am I the only one here who had a relative who was an actual Satanist?

I had a buddy who was kind of into it, but I think he was just trying to get laid.

16 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:28:02am
17 b.d.  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:28:22am

Well, they’re the ones that said Obama was Satan, the History Channel special showed it.

18 bubba zanetti  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:28:30am

ZOMG Satinists are invading our outdoor tradishuns

Youtube Video

19 twisty  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:28:49am

They’re going to be scandalized over this for many years to come, I guarantee. It’s the perfect combination of “liberals are literally evil” and “I am persecuted for my religion.”

20 Iwouldprefernotto  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:29:00am

re: #12 Vicious Babushka

Am I the only one here who had a relative who was an actual Satanist?

Yes. You need to go to My Uncles a Satanist Anonymous. They have a 13 step program that can help.

21 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:29:14am

re: #7 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

I don’t get it. Do they really think there are a bunch of Satanists out there?

Is it the 80s? I remember this happening in the 80s. Everyone was convinced there were tons of Satanists like murdering and molesting kids and then suddenly everyone realized that, shit, it’s pretty easy to get kids to agree stuff happened when you ask them leading questions.

Let’s not do that again.

The anthros are starting to understand witchcraft panics—they’re cyclic in societies under stress. Not too much study of them in first world, assuming Texas is first world.

22 Lidane  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:29:14am

You’d think that the RWNJs would be happy with Satanism. If you read Anton LaVey’s steaming pile of bullshit, he basically made virtues out of greed, selfishness, and being an asshole.

It was Ayn Rand’s Objectivism, but with religious language thrown in.

23 A Mom Anon  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:29:29am

re: #12 Vicious Babushka

I had a couple of friends who claimed to be. I always just thought of them as disgruntled Christians who played Opposite (of Christ) Day all the time.

24 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:29:34am

re: #16 Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

They can barely fill a parking lot. Where are the millions coming from again?

25 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:29:54am

re: #24 Kragar

They can barely fill a parking lot. Where are the millions coming from again?

Their own fevered imaginations.

26 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:30:18am

re: #20 Iwouldprefernotto

Yes. You need to go to My Uncles a Satanist Anonymous. They have a 13 step program that can help.

He’s dead now anyway.

27 Interesting Times  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:30:34am

re: #24 Kragar

They can barely fill a parking lot. Where are the millions coming from again?

Unskewed crowd counts.

28 b.d.  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:30:53am

I’ve lived through plenty of Julys in Austin, nobody is hailing Satan. Snow Miser? Maybe.

29 darthstar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:31:03am

What I love about this (even more than the fact that Satan is getting more mentions on twitter than god) is that it’s sooo over the top hyper-panicky that only the most gullible and deluded evangelicals will even believe it. What I don’t love about this is that the above group comprises about 29% of this nation.

30 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:31:44am

re: #22 Lidane

You’d think that the RWNJs would be happy with Satanism. If you read Anton LaVey’s steaming pile of bullshit, he basically made virtues out of greed, selfishness, and being an asshole.

It was Ayn Rand’s Objectivism, but with religious language thrown in.

Ayn Rand’s Objectivism, but with cocaine and underage “altar virgins”

31 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:31:44am

re: #26 Vicious Babushka

He’s dead now anyway.

Oh, then he’s doubly dangerous.

32 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:32:10am

Meanwhile, what the fucking fuck.

Obama Finally Shows His Chicago Thug Side for Real | Mother Jones

33 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:32:57am
34 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:33:25am

re: #32 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, what the fucking fuck.

Obama Finally Shows His Chicago Thug Side for Real | Mother Jones

I don’t know what the big deal is. All I see there is fact-free supposition. Absolutely no substance.

35 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:34:14am

re: #32 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, what the fucking fuck.

Obama Finally Shows His Chicago Thug Side for Real | Mother Jones

If he’s lost Mother Jones, he’ll never get a third term.

36 b.d.  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:35:45am

re: #32 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, what the fucking fuck.

Obama Finally Shows His Chicago Thug Side for Real | Mother Jones

I wish Snowden would get caught or vanish, he is making his supporters absolutely freaking nutzo.

37 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:36:46am

re: #36 b.d.

I wish Snowden would get caught or vanish, he is making his supporters absolutely freaking nutzo.

He has pretty much vanished.

LOST FOREVER in the Transit Gulag.

38 Minor_L  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:36:47am

re: #32 Charles Johnson

Kevin Drum is afraid that Greenwald’s going to call him a “good little worshipper” if he doesn’t jump on the Obama is evil bandwagon.

39 Gus  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:37:58am

re: #32 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, what the fucking fuck.

Obama Finally Shows His Chicago Thug Side for Real | Mother Jones

He’s catching hell for that. Oops. I said hell. ;D

40 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:38:43am

And down in Hell Satan is muttering, “Meddlesome girl, I almost had them not believing in me!”.

:p

41 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:39:26am

re: #39 Gus

He’s catching hell for that. Oops. I said hell. ;D

What are you trying to do, bring about the Apocalypse?

On that note, I had a very nice gentleman ride up on a blood-red horse. He was asking for you.

42 Gus  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:39:34am
43 Minor_L  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:40:57am

I’m pretty disappointed in Mother Jones. Drum has sort of always been a concern troll, but that publication used to have higher standards of investigation. (Much better than most MSM outlets.) That kind of fact-free speculation, combined with an almost overtly racist headline, is something I wouldn’t have expected from MJ, even though they employ Kevin Drum.

Just another casualty to the philosophy of “I will debase myself to prove that I’m not an Obamabot.”

44 Gus  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:41:00am

re: #41 Hail Satan

What are you trying to do, bring about the Apocalypse?

On that note, I had a very nice gentleman ride up on a blood-red horse. He was asking for you.

Satan and devil worship is one of those things wingnuts like to ascribe on people that aren’t actually well, Satan worshipers. It’s like when someone calls me a Peronist and I think to myself, “what the heck is Peronism?”

45 darthstar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:41:08am

re: #39 Gus

He’s catching hell for that. Oops. I said hell. ;D

Hail Satan…and all will be forgiven.

46 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:41:35am

re: #37 Vicious Babushka

He has pretty much vanished.

LOST FOREVER in the Transit Gulag.

Maybe he was digitized and sucked into the Grid. Probably getting his ass kicked by some accounting report program as we speak.
//

47 twisty  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:42:04am

re: #32 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, what the fucking fuck.

Obama Finally Shows His Chicago Thug Side for Real | Mother Jones

Aside from assuming facts not in evidence, nothing racist about that headline, no sir. /

48 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:42:07am

I wish he would crank up the thug to about ‘3’. He could start with these assholes:

Image: pig-michelle-9743285476.jpeg

49 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:42:16am

re: #44 Gus

Satan and devil worship is one of those things wingnuts like to ascribe on people that aren’t actually well, Satan worshipers. It’s like when someone calls me a Peronist and I think to myself, “what the heck is Peronism?”

It’s been going on since ancient times, when the easiest way to eliminate a threat was to call him/her a witch and watch the local fanatic base burn them at the stake.

50 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:42:32am

re: #12 Vicious Babushka

Am I the only one here who had a relative who was an actual Satanist?

I met Anton LaVey up in Portland, OR in the mid-90s. He was actually a rather nice fellow.

51 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:42:44am

re: #32 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, what the fucking fuck.

Obama Finally Shows His Chicago Thug Side for Real | Mother Jones

Dumbass smirking racism.

52 Bulworth  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:42:59am

And CNN is back to covering the Zimmerman trial….

53 darthstar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:43:22am
54 darthstar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:44:18am

re: #52 Bulworth

And CNN is back to covering the Zimmerman trial….

Middle-east turmoil is so two years ago.

55 Gus  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:44:43am

re: #53 darthstar

[Embedded content]

#Hailstan

56 Randall Gross  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:45:11am

Notice how the entire right wing has picked up the “abortion is genocide” meme from the Operation Rescue whackjob zealots. Abortion is a family planning and/or health decision, nothing more, nothing less.

57 Bulworth  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:45:21am

re: #2 b.d.

You have won the Internets for today.

58 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:46:20am

re: #56 Randall Gross

Notice how the entire right wing has picked up the “abortion is genocide” meme from the Operation Rescue whackjob zealots. Abortion is a family planning and/or health decision, nothing more, nothing less.

Oh yes, because the Margaret Sanger Klavern of the KKK is kidnapping random pregnant Black women off the street and forcing them to have abortions against their will.
//dripping

59 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:47:42am

re: #41 Hail Satan

Ya know, given those who rail against Satan and are supposedly on the “good” side I am beginning to think Satan got a bad rap and is probably a pretty cool dude. I mean really, according to Christians:

A) Satan is far more accepting and tolerant vis-a-vis gays and other religions.

B) Satan doesn’t care about what you do in your bedroom.

C) Satan believes that women should control their own bodies and aren’t cursed just because they bleed once a month.

D) Satan doesn’t damn you to some horrible bad place if you don’t do everything his followers say you should do.

I mean really, if christians are right then hell is going to be a happening lively place while in Heaven it’ll be peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and early bed time.

60 Bulworth  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:48:18am

I was chanting ‘hail Satan’ all during Wendy Davis’ filibuster. And the filibuster worked. Coincidence?///

61 GunstarGreen  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:48:58am

re: #3 A Mom Anon

OFFS. How the hell can sanity win over this level of off the edge insane?

It can’t. As I’ve said on numerous other occasions, these people cannot be reasoned with. They are fully, absolutely convinced that they are engaged in a literal holy war for the soul of the nation. They are completely prepared to believe that their political opponents are not just people with differing political ideas, but actual agents of the dark lord of the underworld. There can be no compromise, you are either with God (them), or the Devil (those that don’t agree with them).

This is what happens when you tolerate fairy-tales-as-belief-system in your political discourse.

62 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:49:03am

re: #59 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Ya know, given those who rail against Satan and are supposedly on the “good” side I am beginning to think Satan got a bad rap and is probably a pretty cool dude. I mean really, according to Christians:

A) Satan is far more accepting and tolerant vis-a-vis gays and other religions.

B) Satan doesn’t care about what you do in your bedroom.

C) Satan believes that women should control their own bodies and aren’t cursed just because they bleed once a month.

D) Satan doesn’t damn you to some horrible bad place if you don’t do everything his followers say you should do.

I mean really, if christians are right then hell is going to be a happening lively place while in Heaven it’ll be peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and early bed time.

George Bernard Shaw wrote something like that 100 years ago.

63 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:50:27am

I will bet $10 that the guy who wrote that “Obama Thug” thing for MJ will claim that he meant like the mob, and that there was no racial component to it.

He might even believe that.

64 jaunte  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:50:37am
For the record, this whole thing apparently started when one demonstrator sarcastically said “Hail Satan” to an anti-choice kook, who filmed it and spread it to the usual sources, falsely claiming that the whole crowd was “chanting” the phrase.

Amazingly Crazed.

65 Bulworth  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:50:49am

Took today off, along with Friday to have a nice long mini-me-vacation. And after a morning workout I’m…here on the Internets. Sigh.

66 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:51:14am

From that nasty Kevin Drum post’s comments:

mjohnso27 39 minutes ago
Um, Kevin, did you just really write that our first African-American President has finally shown his “Chicago thug side”? Really? I am so disappointed to you would adopt such a nasty right wing trope when discussing our President. Even if you’re angry, and even if you’re writing in jest, this type of cheap phraseology is beneath you and completely unacceptable. Critique the President all you want, but I expect a higher level of discourse from you and this magazine. Do better, or expect to lose this reader.

[…]

Justin Raimondo 35 minutes ago in reply to mjohnso27

Oh shut up, you regimist shill. People like you are what’s wrong with this country. He is a thug: deal with it.

67 jaunte  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:51:39am
68 Gus  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:52:22am

re: #66 Charles Johnson

From that nasty Kevin Drum post’s comments:

Regimist shill?

69 darthstar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:52:42am
70 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:52:49am

re: #65 Bulworth

Took today off, along with Friday to have a nice long mini-me-vacation. And after a morning workout I’m…here on the Internets. Sigh.

Leaving tomorrow to drive back to fish country for a loooooong weekend and a loooooong overdue vacation.

71 jaunte  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:53:00am

re: #68 Gus

It’s Justin “Chinatown” Raimondo, Jake.

72 Minor_L  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:53:16am

re: #63 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Here’s one of the commenters defending it:

I don’t get the “racist” accusation. I had always thought of the Republicans’ “Chicago thug” comments as putting Obama in the line of the city’s historical gangsters like Al Capone, as if Obama was part of a city “tradition”going waaaaay back. Not everything the cons say about Obama is racist, is it?

73 darthstar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:53:20am
74 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:53:43am

re: #63 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

I will bet $10 that the guy who wrote that “Obama Thug” thing for MJ will claim that he meant like the mob, and that there was no racial component to it.

He might even believe that.

For a fact, “Chicago Thug” doesn’t trip my race wire. Calls up Teamster, Daly or mafioso stereotypes.

75 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:53:47am

re: #70 Hail Satan

Leaving tomorrow to drive back to fish country for a loooooong weekend and a loooooong overdue vacation.

The mosquitoes welcome you.

76 SidewaysQuark  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:54:19am

And here we have the right-wing reminiscing about the good ol’ days of apartheid in South Africa:

Obama’s Visit to Hell

Just how repugnant does the Right have to get before it comes apart at the seams?

77 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:54:24am

DERP

78 Minor_L  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:54:27am

re: #66 Charles Johnson

Justin Raimondo is an idiot.

79 jaunte  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:55:08am

re: #77 Vicious Babushka

Computers = magic.

80 Randall Gross  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:55:18am

re: #66 Charles Johnson

Justin “anti semite” Raimondo. Just “Weyrich Fostered” Raimondo.

81 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:55:29am

re: #77 Vicious Babushka

DERP

[Embedded content]

Imagine if that huge processing power in his brain ever kicked in.

82 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:55:47am

re: #72 Minor_L

Here’s one of the commenters defending it:

You know the really stupid thing?

This is not at all like Al Capone. This is like, oh, George Bush, or Clinton, or Nixon. This is like a white guy who went to an Ivy League school and is really well-connected politically and probably a lawyer.

83 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:55:55am

re: #80 Randall Gross

Justin “anti semite” Raimondo. Just “Weyrich Fostered” Raimondo.

And now he’s letting his racism hang right out there too.

84 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:56:22am

re: #77 Vicious Babushka

DERP

ARGH. My brain just BSOD’d trying to figure out what “massive processing power” they were referring to. Because they certainly don’t have the capability to do what the wingnuts have been claiming they do…

85 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:56:37am
86 Minor_L  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:57:03am

re: #82 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

All Drum has is hyperbole, since there are zero facts in that piece.

87 teleskiguy  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:57:05am

re: #61 GunstarGreen

It can’t. As I’ve said on numerous other occasions, these people cannot be reasoned with. They are fully, absolutely convinced that they are engaged in a literal holy war for the soul of the nation. They are completely prepared to believe that their political opponents are not just people with differing political ideas, but actual agents of the dark lord of the underworld. There can be no compromise, you are either with God (them), or the Devil (those that don’t agree with them).

This is what happens when you tolerate fairy-tales-as-belief-system in your political discourse.

Take it away Mr. Goldwater.
Image: goldwater.jpg

88 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:57:19am

What is this… I can’t even…

89 abolitionist  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:02:13am

re: #79 jaunte

Computers = magic.

The Apple I was originally priced at $666.
/file under No Such Thing As Bad Publicity

90 darthstar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:02:32am

re: #88 Vicious Babushka

What is this… I can’t even…

[Embedded content]

It was Greenwald & Co. who compared him to MLK.

91 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:02:59am

re: #61 GunstarGreen

It can’t. As I’ve said on numerous other occasions, these people cannot be reasoned with. They are fully, absolutely convinced that they are engaged in a literal holy war for the soul of the nation. They are completely prepared to believe that their political opponents are not just people with differing political ideas, but actual agents of the dark lord of the underworld. There can be no compromise, you are either with God (them), or the Devil (those that don’t agree with them).

This is what happens when you tolerate fairy-tales-as-belief-system in your political discourse.

With that worldview, and no fear of law enforcement and the courts, they would quickly reintroduce lynching. And they’d feel good about it.

92 Ian G.  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:03:54am

So basically, this “hail satan” person did what I’ve always wanted to do: publicly troll the Christian wingnut right. My version of it had a newly-elected president getting “666” tattooed on his/her wrist, but this will do.

93 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:04:21am

Just had a customer going ballistic on us. He was emailing up and down our chain wondering why he wasn’t getting any support when he sent in his request a week ago. He was screaming at people over the phone, trying to get as many people in trouble as he could. We asked him to reforward his original request so we could look at it.

“And this is the exact copy you emailed out last week?
“YEAH! What are you going to do about it?”
“Well, first thing I notice is that you never actually included our team as a recipient to the email. You just sent a copy to yourself and the onsite team.”
“… Wait, what?… “

NO SUPPORT FOR YOU!

94 Randall Gross  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:06:31am

re: #83 Charles Johnson

That’s an automatic with the “Weyrich fostered” label. Ala Trifkovic, Spencer, Epstein, etc.

95 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:06:47am

re: #93 Kragar

Just had a customer going ballistic on us. He was emailing up and down our chain wondering why he wasn’t getting any support when he sent in his request a week ago. He was screaming at people over the phone, trying to get as many people in trouble as he could. We asked him to reforward his original request so we could look at it.

“And this is the exact copy you emailed out last week?
“YEAH! What are you going to do about it?”
“Well, first thing I notice is that you never actually included our team as a recipient to the email. You just sent a copy to yourself and the onsite team.”
“… Wait, what?… “

NO SUPPORT FOR YOU!

Ah, customer support. There’s a reason why I don’t do that - that reason being, after about my fourth stupid idiotic moron call of the day, I would go nuclear on someone, tell them what I really think, and get promptly fired.

96 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:08:03am

Kevin Drum realizes he stepped in it: Obama Lets Loose on Evo Morales | Mother Jones

UPDATE: The original headline of this post was “Obama Finally Shows His Chicago Thug Side for Real.” This was obviously a nod to the endless tea party invocations of Obama as a Chicago thug, but it’s been taken by many as a racial dog whistle. I apologize for that, since it certainly wasn’t my intent. I think the treatment of Morales’s plane was outrageous behavior, and quite likely a result of pressure from the United States, but that’s all.

97 jaunte  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:09:02am

“Quite likely” isn’t really enough for the accusation.

98 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:09:16am

re: #95 Hail Satan

We don’t actually do “Customer” support. We work with various Project Managers for special projects on site for customers. This PM dropped the ball in front of the customer and was trying to pass the buck.

99 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:09:40am

re: #96 Charles Johnson

Kevin Drum realizes he stepped in it: Obama Lets Loose on Evo Morales | Mother Jones


“I’m disgusted by Tea Party hyperbole, so I endorsed it.”

100 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:09:46am

re: #98 Kragar

We don’t actually do “Customer” support. We work with various Project Managers for special projects on site for customers. This PM dropped the ball in front of the customer and was trying to pass the buck.

Whoopsy. Well done, genius.

101 Randall Gross  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:11:44am

re: #96 Charles Johnson

Here’s what I sent when I saw that:

102 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:12:39am

Wait, what in the hell…

Assad’s Government: Morsi Should Resign For The Sake Of The People

103 Lidane  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:13:15am
104 jaunte  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:13:50am

That Greenwald, he’s everywhere.

105 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:16:17am

re: #99 Decatur Deb


“I’m disgusted by Tea Party hyperbole, so I endorsed it.”

The excuse is really lame. Yes, he was using a conservative meme - but there was nothing “sarcastic” or snarky about it. The whole point of his article was that the meme was RIGHT.

106 lawhawk  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:16:20am

re: #102 Kragar

Not all that different than yesterday’s claims that Mubarak was asking Morsi to step aside to avoid further bloodshed. The irony meter is off the charts.

107 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:16:41am

re: #104 jaunte

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That Greenwald, he’s everywhere.

And where Greenwald can’t be, his cultists take up the slack.

108 Minor_L  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:17:12am

Edit: I think I just didn’t see the “load more comments” button. Mine’s still there. :)

109 jaunte  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:17:54am
110 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:19:31am

NC Lawmaker: GOP is scarier than Sharia

“The irony that you all attached these anti-abortion provisions on the anti-Sharia law is really astounding,” Stein pointed out. “That’s what this bill says, it’s about some foreign law, anti-Sharia law. There’s not a single instance of anything like that appearing in the North Carolina courts. And yet, you’re playing to people’s base fears by promoting this.

“When we don’t have anything to fear from the Sharia types, what we have to fear is from the North Carolina General Assembly Republican Senate impinging on people’s fundamental constitutional rights.”

111 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:20:11am

re: #109 jaunte

If nothing else, disrupting the flight of a head of state tells Snowden he’s scrimaging in the NFL now.

112 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:21:18am

re: #109 jaunte

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Nope. Twitter rumors strike again.
Snowden still in Moscow despite Bolivian plane drama

113 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:21:38am

re: #111 Decatur Deb

If nothing else, disrupting the flight of a head of state tells Snowden he’s scrimaging in the NFL now.

Snowden is in Transit Gulag. He sees nothing and he hears nothing except what the Gulag masters want him to know.

114 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:21:41am

re: #108 Minor_L

My comment on the Drum article appears to have been deleted.

My surprise, let me show you it.

115 GunstarGreen  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:24:38am

re: #110 Kragar

NC Lawmaker: GOP is scarier than Sharia

It’s not really ‘irony’ so much as ‘nauseating hypocrisy’.

“Here’s a law to prohibit furren religious dogma from being considered in courts. While we’re at it, here’s some of our own religious dogma, to be considered in courts.”

/spit

116 Minor_L  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:25:10am

...

117 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:25:41am

Now why in the world would anyone suspect Bolivian president Morales of smuggling someone aboard his private jet?

Spotlight on Bolivia: The “Coca Diplomacy” of Evo Morales

At last month’s meeting of the United Nations Commission on Narcotic Drugs in Vienna, Bolivian President Evo Morales made headlines by dramatically brandishing a coca leaf he had apparently smuggled into the Austrian city between the pages of a book. The coca leaf, which is the unrefined source of cocaine and is considered an illegal substance under the UN’s 1961 Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs, holds special significance for the Bolivian leader. A former cultivator of the plant himself, Morales swept into the presidency in 2006 with the backing of Bolivia’s cocaleros movement, a syndicate of coca-growers unions Morales has helmed for decades.

118 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:25:45am

re: #115 GunstarGreen

It’s not really ‘irony’ so much as ‘nauseating hypocrisy’.

“Here’s a law to prohibit furren religious dogma from being considered in courts. While we’re at it, here’s some of our own religious dogma, to be considered in courts.”

/spit

Last I checked Christianity was a foreign religious dogma as well. It certainly didn’t originate here.

119 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:26:31am

re: #118 Kragar

Last I checked Christianity was a foreign religious dogma as well. It certainly didn’t originate here.

But, but, but, WHITE JESUS!

120 engineer cat  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:26:49am

He became the sixth king in Belgium’s history in August of 1993 after his brother, King Baudouin, died at 62. His abdication follows on the heels of a monarch to the north, Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands, who stepped down after 33 years on April 30 and has been succeeded by her son, King Willem-Alexander.

and where is the royalist movement in the united states?

121 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:27:10am

People are acting like it’s totally outrageous to suspect Snowden might have been on the jet, but there’s considerable precedent here. Bolivia does not exactly have the cleanest hands in the world.

122 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:27:11am
123 Bulworth  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:29:11am

Why hasn’t Obumma renounced the ‘Hail Satan’ chants by Democratic devils in Texas??!!11??

124 Acemarilllion  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:30:03am

So if I Hail Jeebus and Hail Old Scratch at the same time, will they appear and do battle before my eyes?

125 Bulworth  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:30:04am

re: #122 Vicious Babushka

Well, having Morales waterboarded was taking things a bit too far.//

126 jaunte  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:30:46am

re: #122 Vicious Babushka

GG should complain to the Austrians.

127 engineer cat  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:32:40am

Ba’al, Ashera Denounce Satan Worship

newcomer lacks credentials, temples, not registered as recognized pagan deity

128 BongCrodny  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:32:47am

re: #33 Vicious Babushka

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I have a friend who posted to Facebook one of those chain mail things, this one about Starbucks being unpatriotic.

I forwarded her the Snopes “FALSE” link in response — I don’t drink coffee (yes, I am a heathen) and I have no feelings one way or t’other about Starbucks, but to call them “unpatriotic” because of a rusty old e-mail seems a bit unfair.

Her response: “I don’t trust Snopes.”

129 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:33:07am

re: #98 Kragar

We don’t actually do “Customer” support. We work with various Project Managers for special projects on site for customers. This PM dropped the ball in front of the customer and was trying to pass the buck.

I just got an email from a accounting manager in Germany (8pm right now their local time) asking for urgent access to some programs to carry out billing activities (it’s monthly close.)

No ticket entered. And I can’t (even if I wanted to) directly grant the access. All I do at this point is supply analytical support to the team in Brazil that would process the ticket.

Nothing like a “my emergency is your emergency” email at 2pm on the afternoon before a major US holiday.

130 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:33:09am
131 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:33:25am

re: #126 jaunte

GG should complain to the Austrians.

NO NATION HAS SOVEREIGNTY!!111 THEY ARE ALL JUST SUZERAINTYS WHO DO TEH BIDDING OF TEH OBAMA!!11!!

132 jaunte  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:34:22am

re: #131 Vicious Babushka

Treaty of Westphaliabots!

133 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:34:59am

re: #130 Kragar

They are going to drag Egypt into Civil War.

134 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:35:18am

re: #105 Charles Johnson

The excuse is really lame. Yes, he was using a conservative meme - but there was nothing “sarcastic” or snarky about it. The whole point of his article was that the meme was RIGHT.

Another version of the “it was satire” dodge?

135 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:35:19am

Fun Fact. The Carthaginian general Hannibal’s name meant “Grace of Ba’al”.

136 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:35:38am

Watching Al Jazeera live coverage of Egypt. Very heavy bias towards Muslim Bros. They’re now discussing how the military is unfairly focusing on pro-Mursi rallies.

137 jaunte  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:35:55am
138 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:36:04am

re: #128 BongCrodny

I have a friend who posted to Facebook one of those chain mail things, this one about Starbucks being unpatriotic.

I forwarded her the Snopes “FALSE” link in response — I don’t drink coffee (yes, I am a heathen) and I have no feelings one way or t’other about Starbucks, but to call them “unpatriotic” because of a rusty old e-mail seems a bit unfair.

Her response: “I don’t trust Snopes.”

I found that out the hard way, not to link TEH SNOAPS when debunking a Fake Quote because TEH SNOAPS IS TEH SOROS!!11!!!!!

Yes but, it’s still a Fake Quote.

AIEEEEEEEE! IT TEH LIBRUL1!!11 >>>>>>BLOCKIT BLOCK IT BLOCKIT<<<<<<

139 Minor_L  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:36:26am

re: #122 Vicious Babushka

The best comment to the Drum piece was someone citing a Greenwald comment on Up With Chris as evidence of Drum’s claims. I can’t even.

140 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:36:39am

re: #136 Killgore Trout

Qatar supports the Muslim Brotherhood.

This is part of the reason that we should leave the Gulf. The only gov’t worth supporting in the Gulf is Oman, at the very tip.

141 Timothy Watson  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:37:34am

re: #77 Vicious Babushka

To be fair, there are many distributed computing projects out there that use users’ computers to do simulations involving protein folding (folding@home, World Community Grid) and other biological stuff to do cancer, etc. research.

Of course, if the government paid for the computers, the GOP would probably go batshit crazy.

142 Randall Gross  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:38:05am

To me all of the wikileaks crapola is just one long running agit prop campaign with the US as target, and raising cash for wikileaks as incentive & goal.

143 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:38:17am

re: #141 Timothy Watson

To be fair, there are many distributed computing projects out there that use users’ computers to do simulations involving protein folding (folding@home, World Community Grid) and other biological stuff to do cancer, etc. research.

Of course, if the government paid for the computers, the GOP would probably go batshit crazy.

If the GOP really went batshit crazy, how would anybody know?

145 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:39:08am

re: #143 Vicious Babushka

They already are.

146 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:39:16am
147 Timothy Watson  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:39:19am

re: #143 Vicious Babushka

True, I meant batshit crazy about that particular government project.

148 Archangelus  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:39:39am

In today’s local category of “When Derp meets ‘Oy Vey’” - thinking it’d be a brilliant idea, a team from Israel’s Channel 10 News printed a 3d plastic gun, and smuggled it with them past security to within a few meters of Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu…

Nothing on it in English so far, but Israeli media brought it up briefly before it got buried by the Egyptian developments…

149 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:39:58am

re: #140 ProTARDISLiberal

Qatar supports the Muslim Brotherhood.

This is part of the reason that we should leave the Gulf. The only gov’t worth supporting in the Gulf is Oman, at the very tip.

We should send Bugs Bunny in to saw along the border so that it can float free and be safe.

150 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:40:18am

re: #146 Vicious Babushka

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headdesk

151 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:40:34am

re: #146 Vicious Babushka

The derp, it burns.

152 lawhawk  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:40:57am

Drum’s gone and added the following:

UPDATE: The original headline of this post was “Obama Finally Shows His Chicago Thug Side for Real.” This was obviously a nod to the endless tea party invocations of Obama as a Chicago thug, but it’s been taken by many as a racial dog whistle. I apologize for that, since it certainly wasn’t my intent. I think the treatment of Morales’s plane was outrageous behavior, and quite likely a result of pressure from the United States, but that’s all.

153 Archangelus  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:41:59am

re: #146 Vicious Babushka

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Derp level: Gohmert

Do not stare directly for long or you risk going blind/clinically insane..

154 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:43:02am

re: #152 lawhawk

Drum’s gone and added the following:

“Quite likely” is poor journalism unless there is actual facts to back it up.

Nice to see you back. After your one comment earlier today cut off mid sentence I figured the cats had gotten you.

155 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:44:57am

Have the teevee machine on as background noise while I work here at home and a guest on “Andrea Mitchell Reports” said something like: the reason there’s this problem in Egypt is because Morsi has to deal with a corrupt judiciary and obstructionists in the People’s Assembly and so he can’t get anything done, and that’s why there’s this mess in Egypt right now…

imagine that…
//

156 jaunte  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:45:00am

re: #146 Vicious Babushka

“Snowden may have broken the law, but so did the Founding Fathers”

And then they founded their own Republic, in the Moscow airport.

157 BongCrodny  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:45:44am

re: #124 Acemarilllion

So if I Hail Jeebus and Hail Old Scratch at the same time, will they appear and do battle before my eyes?

They’re saving that one for Wrestlemania.

158 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:45:56am

re: #146 Vicious Babushka

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And then ran to China.

159 Lidane  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:46:01am

Rebranding!

160 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:46:14am

re: #154 Feline Fearless Leader

”
Nice to see you back. After your one comment earlier today cut off mid sentence I figured the cats had gotten you.

I was afraid it was the gunk oozing up from the street…

161 Randall Gross  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:47:02am

I’ll re-iterate my opinion from two weeks ago:

If the left doesn’t like what the NSA is doing, or how Obama is executing the war directives congress handed him, then the remedy lies in Congress not the media - congress is the only place where these extraordinary powers can get taken away.

162 efuseakay  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:47:22am

“It’s ‘Satine’.”

(Wreck-It Ralph)

163 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:47:26am
164 Lidane  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:47:32am
165 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:47:43am

How is it today?

166 Lidane  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:48:02am

re: #163 Vicious Babushka

You’d think Bryan would be happy going back to the Dark Ages.

167 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:48:11am

re: #157 BongCrodny

They’re saving that one for Wrestlemania.

Catholics and Satanists United

Youtube Video

168 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:48:38am
169 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:48:51am

re: #166 Lidane

You’d think Bryan would be happy going back to the Dark Ages.

Only if HE can be the King!

170 Randall Gross  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:48:54am

re: #164 Lidane

They’ve done that off and on in various ways with incoming overseas mail since Thomas Jefferson’s time.

171 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:49:31am

re: #169 Vicious Babushka

Only if HE can be the King!

Pope and Chief Inquisitor

172 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:49:32am
173 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:50:20am
174 wrenchwench  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:51:19am

re: #152 lawhawk

Drum’s gone and added the following:

The term is ‘racist dog whistle’, not ‘racial dog whistle’. It was a racist remark, whether he intended it to be or not.

175 Lidane  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:53:06am

Even Obama wasn’t delusional enough to think his election would magically end racism:

176 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:53:19am

You know, I haven’t seen any proposed State or Federal Legislation regarding Catholic Canon Law, only Sharia Law. Have you?

Ojeda is accused in a seven-count complaint of molesting a girl who was younger than 14 while he worked at parishes in Woodland and Redding.

On Tuesday, the prosecution’s expert witness in canonical law said Nondorf and Sheehan were acting in “external” and not spiritual capacities when they confronted Ojeda two years ago about the sexual abuse allegations that had been made against him. “The topic is not the priest’s spiritual life, but information that would have come to the bishop … and his responsibilities to act and report it to the civil authorities,” the witness, Monsignor Steven Callahan, testified.

The conversation “had nothing to do with spiritual growth and development and everything to do with an allegation brought to diocesan authorities that they needed to take action on,” said Callahan, who is vicar general of the Roman Catholic Diocese of San Diego.

The testimony came in the third day of the pretrial hearing on a motion by Ortiz to suppress Ojeda’s statements to Nondorf and Sheehan on Nov. 30, 2011, when they visited him in Redding with the purpose of bringing him back to Sacramento to face charges.


Read more here: sacbee.com

177 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:53:53am

BREATHTAKING DERP
SHE’S TOTALLY CEREAL

178 darthstar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:54:32am

Hello Satan
Image: HelloSatan.jpg

179 wrenchwench  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:54:56am

re: #172 Charles Johnson


It’s like Wally and The Beav turning to Eddie Haskell.

180 A Mom Anon  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:55:34am

re: #175 Lidane

Oh Please. Rush knows precisely what the hell is going on. Racism is his bread and butter, he wouldn’t want it to go away, if that were even possible. He squirms in his chair with joy being a racist, sexist asshole. Thrives on it.

Or, bloated sac of protoplasm says what?

181 Lidane  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:57:29am
182 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:58:44am

re: #178 darthstar

Hello Satan
Image: HelloSatan.jpg

ever noticed how those horns seem to look like fallopian tubes?

183 jaunte  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:59:30am
Two officials with the French Foreign Ministry said Wednesday that Morales’ plane had authorization to fly over France. They would not comment on why Bolivian officials said otherwise. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to be publicly named according to ministry policy.

An official with Spain’s foreign ministry said Wednesday that the country on Tuesday authorized Morales’ plane to fly within its airspace and to make a refueling stop. The official said Bolivia asked again this morning for permission and got it.

theatlanticwire.com

184 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:59:43am
185 Randall Gross  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:59:48am

re: #176 FemNaziBitch

You know, I haven’t seen any proposed State or Federal Legislation regarding Catholic Canon Law, only Sharia Law. Have you?

You haven’t listened to the Texe Marrs show lately (seriously, do not google it, you will have to take a shower after…)

186 Lidane  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:03:38pm
187 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:03:45pm

english.ahram.org.eg

20:50 A presidential source tells Ahram Arabic that President Mohamed Morsi was informed by the army at 7pm that he is no longer president.

188 Big Steve  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:03:52pm

I have to admit that having a five year old girl hold up a sign that says:”If I wanted the government in my womb, I would F*** a Senator” seems extreme to me.

189 Major Tom  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:04:19pm

re: #163 Vicious Babushka

Kinda has a ring to it..
King Barack… Born in arizona moved to babylonia… king Barack…
Youtube Video


Damn earworm.

190 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:04:21pm

France and Spain now say it isn’t true that Morales’s plane was denied landing rights: The Tale of the Re-Routed Bolivian President’s Plane Is Falling Apart.

191 lawhawk  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:04:37pm
192 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:04:48pm

re: #188 Big Steve

I have to admit that having a five year old girl hold up a sign that says:”If I wanted the government in my womb, I would F*** a Senator” seems extreme to me.

Yeah, normally its the priesthood who take care of that kind of thing.

193 Targetpractice  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:04:54pm

re: #190 Charles Johnson

France and Spain now say it isn’t true that Morales’s plane was denied landing rights: The Tale of the Re-Routed Bolivian President’s Plane Is Falling Apart.

Wikileaks lied?! Surely you jest!!

///

194 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:05:07pm

Some military dude making a statement
aljazeera.com

195 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:05:07pm
196 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:05:25pm
Assembly Bill 217 would ban sex-selection abortions and would allow a mother, father or grandparent of “an unborn child that is aborted” to sue the physician that performed the abortion. So far only Arizona, Oklahoma, North Dakota and Pennsylvania have this law on the books. The law has been blocked in Illinois.

Read more: host.madison.com

A Grandparent?

197 wrenchwench  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:05:51pm

re: #188 Big Steve

I have to admit that having a five year old girl hold up a sign that says:”If I wanted the government in my womb, I would F*** a Senator” seems extreme to me.

I didn’t see that. Even if I had, that doesn’t bother me as much as the man holding a sign that says, ‘I regret my abortion’.

198 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:06:48pm

re: #185 Randall Gross

You haven’t listened to the Texe Marrs show lately (seriously, do not google it, you will have to take a shower after…)

I think my next research is going to be to figure out which countries are most likely destinations and to create an exit plan.

199 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:06:51pm
200 b.d.  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:07:07pm

Poor Morsi, ended up like that Men’s Wearhouse dude.

201 Gus  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:07:14pm

re: #190 Charles Johnson

France and Spain now say it isn’t true that Morales’s plane was denied landing rights: The Tale of the Re-Routed Bolivian President’s Plane Is Falling Apart.

202 wrenchwench  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:07:36pm

re: #196 FemNaziBitch

A Grandparent?

Yes, even your in laws should have more say over your body than you should.

203 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:07:54pm

Good luck with hailing Satan around where I live. Most of the time you can’t even hail a taxi.

204 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:08:27pm

re: #199 Naija Liberal

Maybe if we actually had some clue to who you are…

205 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:08:45pm

re: #203 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Good luck with hailing Satan around where I live. Most of the time you can’t even hail a taxi.

Yeah, but Satan’s easier to get ahold of. All he requires is a soul.

206 lawhawk  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:09:07pm
207 Big Steve  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:09:09pm

re: #197 wrenchwench

I didn’t see that. Even if I had, that doesn’t bother me as much as the man holding a sign that says, ‘I regret my abortion’.

Image: BOOJuIGCEAEJX3L.jpg

208 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:09:26pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

What the fucking fuck? Kevin Drum changed the headline: “Obama Lets Loose on Evo Morales” (see “Update”.) motherjones.com

Kevin Drum is going straight to hell. Satan told me so.

209 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:09:37pm

re: #149 Feline Fearless Leader

I am behind your plan! :P

Sultan Qaboos seems to be the only guy in the area with his head screwed on correctly. I think we volunteer to send Texas there in exchange.

210 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:10:12pm

re: #201 Gus

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THE PILOT WAS IN ON IT TOO?!?!?!?

211 Gus  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:10:16pm
212 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:10:18pm

re: #209 ProTARDISLiberal

I am behind your plan! :P

Sultan Qaboos seems to be the only guy in the area with his head screwed on correctly. I think we volunteer to send Texas there in exchange.

Wisconsin, Ohio, Arizona, North Carolina … .

213 GunstarGreen  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:10:57pm

re: #196 FemNaziBitch

A Grandparent?

Banking on the idea that even if you and your spouse wanted the abortion and made that decision for yourselves, the doctor can still be sued by an uninvolved third party.

The objective is to make medical professionals too scared of legal consequences to perform the procedure.

Cartoon. Supervillains.

214 Sionainn  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:11:20pm

re: #207 Big Steve

Image: BOOJuIGCEAEJX3L.jpg

If it were me, I’d hold the “I’d fuck a Senator sign” and have my girls hold the “wanted child” signs.

215 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:14:36pm

DING, DING, DING —we have a winner!!!!!

“So to the Republican claim that “there is no war on women” I would have to call BS. But I would also add that the “war on women” is about a lot more than a war on women. Controlling the sexual practices of the entire population was certainly on Rick Santorum’s mind during his primary run in 2012. In fact I found his comments (see above link) to be well in line with the Catholic thinking I mentioned at the beginning of this post: It’s a vital way to keep the masses in line…and not one they appear to have any intention of letting go of easily.”

216 Gus  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:14:39pm

AIPAC! Teh JUICE!!!111ty

217 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:15:49pm
218 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:15:55pm

re: #212 FemNaziBitch

I would make the following deal.

All the nutcases who want to live in a Theocracy get in Texas, everyone in Texas who wants to live in Sanity leaves.

Then, we switch Texas and Oman, and open up the gates to repopulate where the nutcases left. Everybody wins.

////

219 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:16:11pm

Massive Celebration in Tahrir square
Live feed:
live.reuters.com

220 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:16:45pm

re: #214 Sionainn

If it were me, I’d hold the “I’d fuck a Senator sign” and have my girls hold the “wanted child” signs.

Oh, but there are no unwanted children . . didn’t you hear? Rick Perry has the answer—ADOPTION!!!

There are no unwanted children in Texas!!!!!

221 A Mom Anon  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:17:14pm

re: #197 wrenchwench

I am seriously pissed off that this is still a fight.

When I was a kid there was a single mom who lived on our street. Her husband left her with two little kids and she had to work, which was not cool at the time. I used to babysit for her sometimes, even though my Mom didn’t “approve of her lifestyle”. She was obviously overwhelmed, trying to keep the house, the kids, the car and all the bills paid. So I would help her clean her house, do the dishes and laundry, that kind of stuff, when I babysat.

She died from a botched abortion. She had the nerve to date and and got pregnant. You should have heard the judgement and tongue wagging in our neighborhood. No compassion. I was 12 when it happened. Roe V Wade passed the next year. I cried for two weeks after this lady died. Her name was Danielle, Danny. She was pretty and nice to me. That was the event that turned me against religious people and their snotty Jesus Club bullshit. I was a kid, but I was smart enough to see what was what. My parent were in Amway for FFS, I had been raised in the whole evangelical mess. When Danny died, I wasn’t allowed to ever talk about her again. But I overheard the whispers and the nasty talk. I never knew what happened to her kids, the police took them away in a police car, her house was emptied out and that was that. This is what these fucking assholes want to see again.

222 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:17:20pm

re: #218 ProTARDISLiberal

I would make the following deal.

All the nutcases who want to live in a Theocracy get in Texas, everyone in Texas who wants to live in Sanity leaves.

Then, we switch Texas and Oman, and open up the gates to repopulate where the nutcases left. Everybody wins.

////

Right, as long as they get NO FEDERAL TAX money.

223 Targetpractice  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:17:33pm

re: #220 FemNaziBitch

Oh, but there are no unwanted children . . didn’t you hear? Rick Perry has the answer—ADOPTION!!!

There are no unwanted children in Texas!!!!!

Just like there are no homosexuals in Iran.

///

224 Political Atheist  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:18:13pm

NBCNEWS

Morsi is out, the top guy at the constitutional court (?) is acting president, early elections promised

225 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:18:18pm

There is a shitload of fireworks going off in Egypt right now.

226 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:18:25pm

re: #221 A Mom Anon

I am seriously pissed off that this is still a fight.

When I was a kid there was a single mom who lived on our street. Her husband left her with two little kids and she had to work, which was not cool at the time. I used to babysit for her sometimes, even though my Mom didn’t “approve of her lifestyle”. She was obviously overwhelmed, trying to keep the house, the kids, the car and all the bills paid. So I would help her clean her house, do the dishes and laundry, that kind of stuff, when I babysat.

She died from a botched abortion. She had the nerve to date and and got pregnant. You should have heard the judgement and tongue wagging in our neighborhood. No compassion. I was 12 when it happened. Roe V Wade passed the next year. I cried for two weeks after this lady died. Her name was Danielle, Danny. She was pretty and nice to me. That was the event that turned me against religious people and their snotty Jesus Club bullshit. I was a kid, but I was smart enough to see what was what. My parent were in Amway for FFS, I had been raised in the whole evangelical mess. When Danny died, I wasn’t allowed to ever talk about her again. But I overheard the whispers and the nasty talk. I never knew what happened to her kids, the police took them away in a police car, her house was emptied out and that was that. This is what these fucking assholes want to see again.

They are scared shitless of our Brave New World.

227 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:18:55pm

That looks like one heckuva party.

228 Big Steve  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:20:23pm

re: #215 FemNaziBitch

The part of that article that rang true is the comment about Rick Perry’s hostility toward his opponents. This is not new. Governor Perry has been one of the most vindictive politicians I have ever observed. I got to witness this first hand having worked at a mid level on Bill Whites’s campaign for governor a few years back. I found out later that my name along with most of the rest of us on the campaign were enshrined on some of Perry’s enemy’s lists.

229 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:20:34pm

re: #221 A Mom Anon

I am seriously pissed off that this is still a fight.

When I was a kid there was a single mom who lived on our street. Her husband left her with two little kids and she had to work, which was not cool at the time. I used to babysit for her sometimes, even though my Mom didn’t “approve of her lifestyle”. She was obviously overwhelmed, trying to keep the house, the kids, the car and all the bills paid. So I would help her clean her house, do the dishes and laundry, that kind of stuff, when I babysat.

She died from a botched abortion. She had the nerve to date and and got pregnant. You should have heard the judgement and tongue wagging in our neighborhood. No compassion. I was 12 when it happened. Roe V Wade passed the next year. I cried for two weeks after this lady died. Her name was Danielle, Danny. She was pretty and nice to me. That was the event that turned me against religious people and their snotty Jesus Club bullshit. I was a kid, but I was smart enough to see what was what. My parent were in Amway for FFS, I had been raised in the whole evangelical mess. When Danny died, I wasn’t allowed to ever talk about her again. But I overheard the whispers and the nasty talk. I never knew what happened to her kids, the police took them away in a police car, her house was emptied out and that was that. This is what these fucking assholes want to see again.

Having just begun watching the Mad Men series … .

The dark side of Ozzie and Harriet.

I wasn’t sure at first what I thought of it, but I’m beginning to see it as educational TV

230 wrenchwench  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:20:44pm

re: #207 Big Steve

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Still doesn’t bother me. She’s within a couple of years of her first period, and she’s in Texas. She needs to be pretty adult about some stuff ASAP. Stuff way more important than words on a sign.

231 Lidane  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:21:09pm

re: #225 Kragar

There is a shitload of fireworks going off in Egypt right now.

232 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:21:12pm

re: #228 Big Steve

The part of that article that rang true is the comment about Rick Perry’s hostility toward his opponents. This is not new. Governor Perry has been one of the most vindictive politicians I have ever observed. I got to witness this first hand having worked at a mid level on Bill Whites’s campaign for governor a few years back. I found out later that my name along with most of the rest of us on the campaign were enshrined on some of Perry’s enemy’s lists.

Because, it’s a zero-sum game.

233 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:21:34pm

Imagine every 4th of July show you’ve ever scene going off at the same time over a crowd of millions, that is whats going on in Egypt right now

234 Randall Gross  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:21:46pm

re: #225 Kragar

There is a shitload of fireworks going off in Egypt right now.

I think all 10 million in Cairo are there right now…

235 Gus  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:21:49pm
236 Lidane  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:22:42pm

re: #228 Big Steve

The part of that article that rang true is the comment about Rick Perry’s hostility toward his opponents. This is not new. Governor Perry has been one of the most vindictive politicians I have ever observed.

All of them are. Perry, Dewhurst, Cruz, Luap Nor, GOHMERT and the rest — if you oppose them or the GOP agenda in this state, they will make sure that you end up on an enemies list. They really are that vindicitive.

237 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:23:45pm

The more attempts at shame and insults the more outspoken women will become.

The stupidity of the “Virgin Mary vs Jezebel” thought process is that Jezebel votes.

I can tell you that at this point NOTHING will keep me from the voting booth. NOTHING.

238 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:23:58pm

re: #236 Lidane

All of them are. Perry, Dewhurst, Cruz, Luap Nor, GOHMERT and the rest — if you oppose them or the GOP agenda in this state, they will make sure that you end up on an enemies list. They really are that vindicitive.

The only option they leave us is their complete destruction as a party.

239 Political Atheist  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:24:08pm

So now what happens with all those Morsi / MB supporters? They just head home? //

240 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:24:18pm

It’s raining around here. I will content myself with fireworks in Egypt. : )

241 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:25:03pm

re: #239 Political Atheist

Riots, violence, general barbarity. It’s all they are good at.

242 wrenchwench  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:25:21pm

re: #221 A Mom Anon

I am seriously pissed off that this is still a fight.

When I was a kid there was a single mom who lived on our street. Her husband left her with two little kids and she had to work, which was not cool at the time. I used to babysit for her sometimes, even though my Mom didn’t “approve of her lifestyle”. She was obviously overwhelmed, trying to keep the house, the kids, the car and all the bills paid. So I would help her clean her house, do the dishes and laundry, that kind of stuff, when I babysat.

She died from a botched abortion. She had the nerve to date and and got pregnant. You should have heard the judgement and tongue wagging in our neighborhood. No compassion. I was 12 when it happened. Roe V Wade passed the next year. I cried for two weeks after this lady died. Her name was Danielle, Danny. She was pretty and nice to me. That was the event that turned me against religious people and their snotty Jesus Club bullshit. I was a kid, but I was smart enough to see what was what. My parent were in Amway for FFS, I had been raised in the whole evangelical mess. When Danny died, I wasn’t allowed to ever talk about her again. But I overheard the whispers and the nasty talk. I never knew what happened to her kids, the police took them away in a police car, her house was emptied out and that was that. This is what these fucking assholes want to see again.

Favorited for future reference.

When I was that age, I was babysitting for the only divorced woman in the neighborhood. She was working an overnight shift. Fortunately, she didn’t die, but I know she suffered from neighbors’ bullshit.

243 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:25:22pm

re: #230 wrenchwench

Still doesn’t bother me. She’s within a couple of years of her first period, and she’s in Texas. She needs to be pretty adult about some stuff ASAP. Stuff way more important than words on a sign.

Somehow, I don’t think these girls are mindless drones. I have a feeling they have an understanding (appropriate for their developmental) level of the issues.

244 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:25:56pm

Also, can I have a live feed please?

245 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:26:00pm

Dude on al jazeera calling this a sugar coated coup de etat.

246 Big Steve  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:26:05pm

re: #230 wrenchwench

Still doesn’t bother me. She’s within a couple of years of her first period, and she’s in Texas. She needs to be pretty adult about some stuff ASAP. Stuff way more important than words on a sign.

I respectfully disagree. That girl looks like she is under 7 years old. I doubt she even knows what the sign means. She has a right to make her own mind up when she is old enough to understand the issues. I object to any kids being used as props in these or any demonstrations. I see this on both sides of the political spectrum and I believe it to be abhorrent regardless of the political issue.

247 lawhawk  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:26:08pm

Because they have no other conclusions that can be reached?


The idea that someone who opposes shutting down all the clinics because of the onerous and extreme measures that the proponents of the bill claim are necessary for womens’ health is somehow for back alley abortions, or is against womens’ safety ignore that the morbidity and mortality rates for women who are patients at clinics are far safer (13-15x more safe) than those who seek natural or c-section birthing. It’s far far safer than plastic surgery, and there’s none among the proponents looking to demand that all plastic surgeons have privileges at hospitals or that any location where plastic surgery occurs conform to requirements such as those these folks are hoping to impose on abortion clinics so they are forced to shutter if they can’t afford the cost to comply with the demands.

But, as everyone here knows, the retort is that it might be safer for the woman, but not the unborn (ignoring that their claims for safety are a cover for their true intention to force the clinics to close). The safety and well being of the women is not part of the calculus, because if it were, these same people would be demanding that health care improve for pregnant women so they don’t die in such large numbers or that plastic surgeons don’t have so many bad outcomes - death and disfigurements.

248 Gus  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:26:08pm

Hahaha! The flight diversion story is bologna! I knew it! Boing! ZOMG! Fail!

249 wrenchwench  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:26:34pm

re: #221 A Mom Anon

Also, Danielle has always been one of my favorite names.

250 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:26:43pm

re: #244 ProTARDISLiberal

Also, can I have a live feed please?

live.reuters.com

251 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:26:47pm

re: #245 Killgore Trout

A populace-supported Coup. Al Jazeera is neglecting those 2 important words.

252 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:27:36pm

re: #242 wrenchwench

Yeah, I remember the “talk” of divorce at the coffee cluthes my Mom would have.

I kinda get some strange flashbacks from watching the Mad Men show. Our house was of the same construction and era as most of the suburban houses in depicted in the show.

Complete with the rounded-shelves at end of the kitchen counter-and the metal rim on the countertop. Ours were painted tho. We had knotty pine panelling in the basement-tho.

253 Political Atheist  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:27:45pm

re: #241 ProTARDISLiberal

Riots, violence, general barbarity. It’s all they are good at.

Are their moderates a fiction? No cooler heads in play?

254 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:28:09pm

re: #247 lawhawk

No you twit, they want actually safe birth control, proper education and sane polices so fewer women will ever need abortions.

255 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:28:24pm
256 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:28:38pm

re: #239 Political Atheist

So now what happens with all those Morsi / MB supporters? They just head home? //

Maybe that they are hoping that the MB membership rolls went up as well when their HQ was burned.

Hopefully they do head home and rethink what it means to take part in a representative government and how that involves working with groups you disagree with in order to make the country more successful and help everyone.

257 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:29:19pm

re: #246 Big Steve

I respectfully disagree. That girl looks like she is under 7 years old. I doubt she even knows what the sign means. She has a right to make her own mind up when she is old enough to understand the issues. I object to any kids being used as props in these or any demonstrations. I see this on both sides of the political spectrum and I believe it to be abhorrent regardless of the political issue.

Steve, you are underestimating children.

I’ve met quite a few young ones who have been given scientifically correct knowledge appropriate to their developmental level, who have shown a better understanding of the issues than most adults.

258 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:29:30pm

re: #250 Kragar

They are fuckin’ happy. Good for them!

Now, we in the US need to vote out the Republican Party, the Christian Version of the Muslim Brotherhood.

259 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:29:45pm

re: #255 Naija Liberal

OK, now its just spam.

260 wrenchwench  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:30:16pm

re: #246 Big Steve

I respectfully disagree. That girl looks like she is under 7 years old. I doubt she even knows what the sign means. She has a right to make her own mind up when she is old enough to understand the issues. I object to any kids being used as props in these or any demonstrations. I see this on both sides of the political spectrum and I believe it to be abhorrent regardless of the political issue.

The one closest to the adult is probably six or seven, and the one with the F*** sign is bigger. But say she is seven. I said ‘within a couple of years of her first period’. Lots of nine year olds have periods.

She has a right to make up her own mind right now. She looks happy to be participating.

261 Gus  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:30:30pm

Hmmm.

262 Targetpractice  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:30:31pm

I figured out the prosecution’s plan in the Zimmerman case. They’re going to bore the jury into a coma with this DNA analysis, then call for a mistrial due to a lack of jury.

//

263 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:30:34pm
264 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:30:47pm

re: #258 ProTARDISLiberal

They are fuckin’ happy. Good for them!

Now, we in the US need to deal with Republican Party, the Christian Version of the Muslim Brotherhood.

I don’t recall the GOP ever being banned as a party in the US.

265 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:30:52pm

re: #247 lawhawk

I know a family that carries a gene for and has at least one person born with a horrible disability. One that can only be expressed in the male offspring. Frankly, I think this is an excellent reason for sex-selective abortion if they cannot tell thru pre-natal testing if the fetus is expressing the disability.

266 Randall Gross  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:31:54pm

Morsi is rejecting the announcement

267 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:32:22pm

re: #266 Randall Gross

Morsi is rejecting the announcement

I reject your reality, and substitute my own.

268 Targetpractice  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:32:38pm

re: #266 Randall Gross

Morsi is rejecting the announcement

[Embedded content]

He obviously hasn’t seen the celebrations going on.

269 Ming  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:33:13pm

re: #36 b.d.

I wish Snowden would get caught or vanish, he is making his supporters absolutely freaking nutzo.

I’m concerned that the reactions to Snowden may cause more damage than Snowden himself. Sure, Snowden has released classified information; that’s not good. But people, and nations, should be careful not to overreact. There’s no reason for the United States to have worsened relations with Bolivia, or for that matter Russia and China, because of this jerk.

270 Randall Gross  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:33:18pm

re: #268 Targetpractice

He obviously hasn’t seen the celebrations going on.

This could go bad in coming days if his MB supporters resort to terror.

271 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:33:31pm

re: #266 Randall Gross

Morsi is rejecting the announcement

[Embedded content]

Why doesn’t Morsi take a walk through Tahrir Square right now and let them know that?

272 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:33:41pm

re: #266 Randall Gross

Morsi is rejecting the announcement

[Embedded content]

He needs to go out on the balcony and let everyone know that.

273 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:34:26pm

Helicopter flew over the crowd and they got even louder.

274 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:34:53pm

re: #260 wrenchwench

The one closest to the adult is probably six or seven, and the one with the F*** sign is bigger. But say she is seven. I said ‘within a couple of years of her first period’. Lots of nine year olds have periods.

She has a right to make up her own mind right now. She looks happy to be participating.

I read (or listened to) one science article or podcast (I can’t remember) that stated that girls are menstruating earlier. It is not unusual for white girls to start at 8.5 years. IIRC, different ethnicities begin earlier, some later.

This means their cognitive development is much different than what mine was.

So many 7 year olds are developmentally where I was at 11. If I understood the article correctly.

275 lawhawk  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:35:32pm

Wouldn’t it be something if Morsi were in an adjoining cell next to that of Mubarak. /

Seriously though, the events in Egypt today should be giving all Egyptians pause even as they celebrate. There was a constitution in place. There was a legitimately elected president and government. The military, sensing popular opinion opted to depose Morsi and basically undo the last year’s worth of events.

What can stop the military from doing that again after the new elections and government is formed?

For starters, it would take a more consensual government with a functioning majority and minority party represented. The Constitution needs to clearly delineate the roles for the three branches, and clearly indicate the role of the military is subservient to that of the civilian government. Put teeth to that requirement.

276 SidewaysQuark  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:36:13pm

re: #265 FemNaziBitch

I know a family that carries a gene for and has at least one person born with a horrible disability. One that can only be expressed in the male offspring. Frankly, I think this is an excellent reason for sex-selective abortion if they cannot tell thru pre-natal testing if the fetus is expressing the disability.

Excellent point.

Also, short of the invention of a mind-reading machine, I don’t see how banning abortions for specific “reasons” is remotely enforceable in anyone’s wildest dreams.

277 Big Steve  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:36:21pm

re: #257 FemNaziBitch

Steve, you are underestimating children.

I’ve met quite a few young ones who have been given scientifically correct knowledge appropriate to their developmental level, who have shown a better understanding of the issues than most adults.

I never underestimate children having had some myself. When my youngest was about 7 he was invited to a backyard party by a friend’s parent. However it was a ruse and as all these boys were happily playing in the pool, the mother had invited her Priest to the party. Well he was one of the young hip type Priests but the party was to give all the boys a sermon (by the way, you guessed it….this was in Texas). Anyway, the boys were pulled out of the pool and forced to listen to Jesus this and Jesus that. The Priest then asked each boy individually what they had learned and when he got to my son, son of Big Steve’s replied “Allah Akbar” and then ran and did a back flip into the pool as the other kids screamed with delight. Party mother decided it was time for Son of Big Steve’s to leave the party so she called. I came and got him and heard the whole story from the mother…with tinges of what a bad father I must be…..when she was done I told her I had never been more proud of my son than I was at that moment.

278 A Mom Anon  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:36:24pm

re: #246 Big Steve

So this is what offends you about all this? Seriously? Maybe that outrage would serve a better purpose if you got behind the actual issue at hand. This isn’t even close to being about what signs a kid is carrying. I’m assuming there are women and girls in your life that you love and care for, I would think you’d be offended by self righteous assholes telling them they have no rights to decide about their own healthcare and family planning.

279 Sionainn  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:37:02pm

re: #246 Big Steve

I respectfully disagree. That girl looks like she is under 7 years old. I doubt she even knows what the sign means. She has a right to make her own mind up when she is old enough to understand the issues. I object to any kids being used as props in these or any demonstrations. I see this on both sides of the political spectrum and I believe it to be abhorrent regardless of the political issue.

I might disagree with you in most cases with involving children in demonstrations. However, in this instance, I just strongly disagree. That mother is fighting for the rights of her DAUGHTERS. That’s not using them as props. This is a serious fight with serious consequences for all women.

280 lawhawk  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:37:13pm

All is well. Remain calm:

281 Lidane  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:37:18pm
282 wrenchwench  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:37:44pm

re: #274 FemNaziBitch

I read (or listened to) one science article or podcast (I can’t remember) that stated that girls are menstruating earlier. It is not unusual for white girls to start at 8.5 years. IIRC, different ethnicities begin earlier, some later.

This means their cognitive development is much different than what mine was.

So many 7 year olds are developmentally where I was at 11. If I understood the article correctly.

I don’t know how cognitive development relates to physical development, but I do know it sure changes how people treat you. They have a whole different set of expectations just because you look a little more mature.

283 Randall Gross  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:37:51pm

re: #275 lawhawk

One thing I expect if they get to another election is better opposition to the Muslim Brotherhood - their election was somewhat by default because they were the only party with real organization and reach at Mubarak’s fall. Since that time I’m hoping the other groups have gotten themselves more organized.

284 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:38:08pm

Watching Al Jazeera, showing the pro-Morsi demonstration in Nassr City, I think there’s trouble coming. The MB isn’t going to take this lying down.

285 Randall Gross  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:38:28pm

re: #280 lawhawk

There are no tanks….

286 lawhawk  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:38:45pm
287 wrenchwench  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:38:53pm

re: #277 Big Steve

when she was done I told her I had never been more proud of my son than I was at that moment.

Just as the mother of the girl in that photo must feel.

288 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:38:58pm
289 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:40:38pm

Waiting for Pam to tell us this is all a plot by the Muslim Brotherhood.

290 Big Steve  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:40:40pm

re: #278 A Mom Anon

So this is what offends you about all this? Seriously? Maybe that outrage would serve a better purpose if you got behind the actual issue at hand. This isn’t even close to being about what signs a kid is carrying. I’m assuming there are women and girls in your life that you love and care for, I would think you’d be offended by self righteous assholes telling them they have no rights to decide about their own healthcare and family planning.

You may have missed the part where up above I mentioned that I worked on a campaign to unseat Rick Perry. I oppose everything that man is for. I am also more than passing acquaintances with one Texas House member and one Texas Senator. They have both heard from me on this issue.

291 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:41:25pm

Heh.

292 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:42:54pm

re: #282 wrenchwench

I don’t know how cognitive development relates to physical development, but I do know it sure changes how people treat you. They have a whole different set of expectations just because you look a little more mature.

Well, cognitive development like physical development is determined by hormones. The frontal lobes of the brain which allow higher thinking begin to develop at puberty. The parts of the brain that make it so easier for children to learn languages so quickly shut down.

Basically, the great benefit of the childhood brain is that it has tons and tons of neural connections that aren’t “programmed” yet. This is why children can learn so much so quickly. When puberty starts, the brain starts to weed-out the unused or seldom used programming-allowing resources to be allocated to programming necessary for the next phase of life.

It’s actually kind of a scary thing that puberty is moving to an earlier age.

(please allow a wide latitude for the lay-persons explanation of brain development —I have a feeling there are some Phd’s out there wanting to pound me)

293 Big Steve  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:43:34pm

re: #287 wrenchwench

Just as the mother of the girl in that photo must feel.

I guessing the girl in that picture did not come up with the wording on the sign. But fair enough, she may be a willing participant.

294 Lidane  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:45:51pm

re: #291 NJDhockeyfan

Plus, AJE would actually offer news about what’s going on over there. CNN would probably find a way to ask if the coup in Egypt will affect the prices and calorie counts in Cairo’s Starbucks locations. =P

295 wrenchwench  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:46:10pm

re: #293 Big Steve

I guessing the girl in that picture did not come up with the wording on the sign. But fair enough, she may be a willing participant.

Not just willing, but as Sionainn pointed out, directly affected by the issue at hand, now and for her whole life to come.

297 Ian G.  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:47:26pm

re: #76 SidewaysQuark

And here we have the right-wing reminiscing about the good ol’ days of apartheid in South Africa:

Obama’s Visit to Hell

Just how repugnant does the Right have to get before it comes apart at the seams?

Just don’t mention to the right that South Africa has one of the highest Gini coefficients in the world. It might give people the idea that horrendous levels of wealth inequality breeds corruption and lawlessness and that we’d better do our darnedest to make sure that we work against exacerbating inequality in this country.

No, just keep repeating that raising taxes on rich people and expanding the welfare state are evil. Jesus said so.

298 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:48:26pm

re: #295 wrenchwench

Not just willing, but as Sionainn pointed out, directly affected by the issue at hand, now and for her whole life to come.

It’s a fairly straightforward concept.

“Well, dear, you may want to be veterinarian, but if you fall in love and decide to have sex, you probably won’t be able to. if Rick Perry get’s his way.

You’ll have to become a nun if you want to achieve anything.”

Yeah, I think a 7 year old could understand that.

299 A Mom Anon  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:49:36pm

re: #290 Big Steve

Then you understand that those girls are going to be directly effected by this madness in the next few years? As a Dad, I’m sure you know how quick that time flies by. This DIRECTLY effects those kids, and while they may not yet understand this issue on an adult level, they have probably been told in age appropriate terms why their Mom is fighting for their future. I’m glad you fought against Perry and were involved in the political process in TX, fighting the good fight. But this issue isn’t going away, and TX seems to be leading, in a really BAD way, what’s going to be happening anywhere wingnuts can get away with it. Try to imagine, being a woman and having a bunch of ill informed men setting policy about your reproductive health and rights. Men have never had anyone doing this to them, EVER. The anti choice women in this mess aren’t the leaders, it was men who started this mess. There’s nothing wrong with involving kids in the political process in a non hateful way.

300 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:51:24pm

re: #298 FemNaziBitch

It’s a fairly straightforward concept.

“Well, dear, you may want to be veterinarian, but if you fall in love and decide to have sex, you probably won’t be able to. if Rick Perry get’s his way.

You’ll have to become a nun if you want to achieve anything.”

Yeah, I think a 7 year old could understand that.

It goes for boys too!

Kids compare families. They know which ones work and which don’t.

I know it didn’t take more than 7 years to figure out that lots of kids is a recipe for dysfunction. (remember I grew-up in the Catholic bubble.)

Early on, I decided I wasn’t getting married or having kids. Then I grew-up a little and learned about science. I think I was 12 when I figured-out I could have everything I wanted in life—if I wasn’t Catholic.

301 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:52:15pm
302 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:53:24pm

yup

303 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 12:56:03pm

re: #279 Sionainn

My kids were 11 and 12 when they marched with me against the Vietnam war. They were often the only kids.

304 wrenchwench  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 1:01:47pm

re: #303 Justanotherhuman

My kids were 11 and 12 when they marched with me against the Vietnam war. They were often the only kids.

Are you my mom?

/

305 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 1:04:15pm

re: #304 wrenchwench

Are you my mom?

/

wouldn’t that be a freak-out?

306 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 1:07:45pm

bbl

307 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 1:26:51pm

re: #91 Decatur Deb

With that worldview, and no fear of law enforcement and the courts, they would quickly reintroduce lynching ethnic cleansing. And they’d feel good about it.

FTFY.

308 celticdragon  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 1:46:45pm

re: #29 darthstar

What I love about this (even more than the fact that Satan is getting more mentions on twitter than god) is that it’s sooo over the top hyper-panicky that only the most gullible and deluded evangelicals will even believe it. What I don’t love about this is that the above group comprises about 29% of this nation.

Including my mother. She is utterly convinced that Obama is the actual Anti-Christ and will lead to the apocalypse in Revelations.

And she votes.

309 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 1:50:52pm

re: #221 A Mom Anon

You’re a good soul.

310 sagehen  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 3:16:04pm

re: #229 FemNaziBitch

Having just begun watching the Mad Men series … .

The dark side of Ozzie and Harriet.

I wasn’t sure at first what I thought of it, but I’m beginning to see it as educational TV

As you’re watching, keep in mind that Sally and Bobby Draper are the same age as Wayne and Kevin Arnold. Then try to imagine if Kevin’s Dad would ever do the kind of things Don Draper does…

311 stabby  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 6:27:30pm

re: #72 Minor_L

Not everything the cons say about Obama is racist, is it?

Yes, actually, everything the wingnuts say about Obama IS racist. Deal with it.

312 UsuallyLogical  Fri, Jul 5, 2013 11:27:04am

I’m sure that “hail satan” was just to mock those who were singing “amazing grace”, and that people are over-reacting to it. However, you are off-base when you insist that it was just one person, and not a group chant. There are multiple video accounts the say otherwise, e.g.

dailycaller.com

313 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jul 5, 2013 11:40:06am

re: #312 UsuallyLogical

Please proceed.


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