Video: Bryan Fischer Fantasizes About White Conservatives “Getting Busy”

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Religious right caveman Bryan Fischer is very concerned about the hordes of dusky-skinned savages who would pour into America if we ever enact immigration reform, but he’s not just complaining; Mr. Fischer has a solution, and that solution is “procreation,” ladies. His advice to conservatives: “Get busy.”

“The whole argument for immigration is, ‘We got to get workers.’ Why? Because native-born Americans simply are not reproducing at rates fast enough to increase the population. So we know what we need to do. Let’s get busy.”

I will leave you, gentle reader, with the horrifying image of Bryan Fischer “getting busy.”

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231 comments
1 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:12:33pm

There isn’t enough Viagra in Niagra…

2 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:12:47pm

Not that he advocates anything which makes it easier to raise a family, such as higher wages, healthcare or education.

3 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:13:01pm

Don’t you just love how the above point dovetails with no abortionsand no contraception?

4 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:14:01pm

32 ZIONIST OVERLORDS!!11

We’ve been very busy.

5 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:14:20pm

re: #2 Kragar

Not that he advocates anything which makes it easier to raise a family, such as higher wages, healthcare or education.

These are Christian kids. God will Automagically (tm) provide the means for those families that comply.

6 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:15:32pm

re: #5 thedopefishlives

And by the way, while my post may be made in jest, that’s also really how these people think. They are convinced that God will magically poof up funds and supplies for families that have “as many kids as God will give them”.

7 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:17:35pm

Quality of life? What is that? Just pop out as many kids as you can!

8 engineer cat  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:19:37pm

will fischer train his Native Youth Corps to work in slaughterhouses and vegetable farms?

9 jaunte  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:19:51pm

It’s so terrible when your imported workers want to be treated as equal humans.

10 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:20:37pm

re: #8 engineer cat

will fischer train his Native Youth Corps to work in manage slaughterhouses and vegetable farms?

Think he’s going for the Herrenvolk, here.

11 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:22:28pm

Night Lizards. Time to prepare the evening meal and spend time with the spouse. Sleep well.

May the Deity of your choice smile down upon you.

12 wrenchwench  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:22:38pm

re: #9 jaunte

It’s so terrible when your imported workers want to be treated as equal humans.

For that matter, your native-bred workers, too. Not to mention the brood mares women….

13 abolitionist  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:22:40pm

I will leave you, gentle reader, with the horrifying image of Bryan Fischer “getting busy.”

You deserve a downding for that, Charles.

14 jaunte  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:23:05pm

Tom Lehrer: George Murphy

Youtube Video

15 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:23:40pm

WHUT?

16 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:24:09pm

Bryan also expects all the spawn to be conservative Christian voters, because apparently Christianity is passed along genetically.

17 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:25:06pm

Idiotic wingnuts think (wish) that the demonstrations in Egypt are against Obama.

18 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:25:11pm

re: #14 jaunte

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Extra points for multiple-thread application.

19 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:25:27pm

I will leave you, gentle reader, with the horrifying image of Bryan Fischer getting busy.

Ok, I need to know what we did to deserve that so it will never, ever, ever happen again.

20 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:26:08pm

re: #17 Vicious Babushka

Idiotic wingnuts think (wish) that the demonstrations in Egypt are against Obama.

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Well of course, because Obama is a leader of the Muslim Brotherhood. You hadn’t heard?

21 wrenchwench  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:26:14pm

re: #14 jaunte

Tom Lehrer: George Murphy

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I’ve always loved Tom Lehrer, but I didn’t realize he’d be so timeless.

22 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:27:21pm

Yes and Bryan Fischer and the GOP will love, support, nurture and protect the child…until it’s out of the womb that is.

23 SidewaysQuark  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:27:39pm

re: #17 Vicious Babushka

Idiotic wingnuts think (wish) that the demonstrations in Egypt are against Obama.

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He can’t win with the wingnuts. Had those been pro-Obama posters, it would mean “he’s in bed with the Mus-lim enemies”.

24 Single-handed sailor  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:27:50pm

“Get busy,” so Bryan can get back to talking about gay sex.

25 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:34:11pm
26 Wile E. Wonka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:38:14pm

re: #7 Kragar

Quality of life? What is that? Just pop out as many kids as you can!

I used to call the whole anti-choicer movement “pro-human-biomass”. Back when I was a little more freshly-removed from my fundie upbringing. Seemed like nothing in the world was so important to ‘em as cranking out endless iterations of the Made In Hiz Image genome.

Except maybe recycling the copies that didn’t accept the One True Faith like they were supposed to.

Gosh. Y’all’l excuse me while I go look at cat pictures for a minute.

27 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:39:00pm

A good one from the Dkos Rec List
MSNBC - I think I know the problem

I think the rage-o-holic burnout is a problem but the diarist misses the point. According to the last Pew news survey MSNBC had the least actual news content of all the major networks so for actual news (breaking stories, live coverage, etc) people tune in elsewhere. As for the commentary it’s of course biased but that’s not the problem. It’s dull, predictable, repetitive, simplistic and over all silly. It would be fine to have a liberal slanted channel but at least try something intellectual, stimulating or challenging.

28 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:41:29pm

re: #26 Wile E. Wonka

I used to call the whole anti-choicer movement “pro-human-biomass”. Back when I was a little more freshly-removed from my fundie upbringing. Seemed like nothing in the world was so important to ‘em as cranking out endless iterations of the Made In Hiz Image genome.

Except maybe recycling the copies that didn’t accept the One True Faith like they were supposed to.

Gosh. Y’all’l excuse me while I go look at cat pictures for a minute.

The closest I ever came to punching a woman was a lady who made disparaging remarks about my mom because she stopped having kids after I was born.

29 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:42:12pm

Turn the lights down, put on some Pat Boone, undo the buttons on the PJs and prepare for a good minute and a half of the marriage act before retiring to your separate beds to pray for forgiveness.

30 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:43:52pm

“Get busy” so Fischer can watch. You just know he’s a voyeur…

31 Wile E. Wonka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:46:00pm

re: #26 Wile E. Wonka

Okay, golldurnit, I can’t find where the secrets of the wingnut font tag are, and suchlike. Is there a help link I’m just not seeing? Is there an incantation I forgot? Did I accidentally slice the chicken’s throat from right to left again?

;)

32 Randall Gross  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:46:26pm

Reuters is still running the bogus Emo Morales fantasy
reuters.com

33 jaunte  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:47:35pm

re: #31 Wile E. Wonka

[ wingnut] Insert wingnutty phrase [/ wingnut]

Just remove the spaces after the [ and /.

34 Randall Gross  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:48:30pm

Wapo still running with the Bolivarian delusion:
washingtonpost.com

35 Wile E. Wonka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:50:36pm

re: #33 jaunte

D’oh! I’d tried that, and thought it didn’t work, but I just forgot to erase one of the “>”s.

Never miiiiind…
(and thanks)

36 jaunte  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:51:57pm

re: #34 Randall Gross

Much more exciting to be abused by a superpower than to admit your fuel gauge is broken.

37 Wile E. Wonka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:53:53pm

re: #36 jaunte

Much more exciting to be abused by a superpower than to admit your fuel gauge is broken.

“When did aviation fuel get so expensive in Spain!? THANKS OBAMA”

38 Randall Gross  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:53:55pm

Whole google page of reporters getting it wrong, with the exception of Time:

news.google.com

39 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:54:06pm

Bad image, Bryan doing a sexy dance and singing this to his loved one before getting busy

Youtube Video

40 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:54:28pm

re: #37 Wile E. Wonka

“When did aviation fuel get so expensive in Spain!? THANKS OBAMA”

DAMMIT GAY MARRIAGE!
/

41 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:56:03pm

re: #36 jaunte

Much more exciting to be abused by a superpower than to admit your fuel gauge is broken.

littlegreenfootballs.com

42 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:56:17pm

Sad news out of here and Wyoming:

:’(

43 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:56:31pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

Is that “technocratic government” going to be the caretaker until elections can be held?

Interesting article on technocratic govts by Joshua A. Tucker,
Professor of Politics NYU:

So what exactly is a technocrat anyway?
What is a ‘technocrat’? And why are technocratic governments all the rage these days in Europe?

aljazeera.com

44 engineer cat  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:57:45pm

the little man sez the lone stranger movie teh sucks

any other opinions?

45 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:59:33pm

re: #44 engineer cat

the little man sez the lone stranger movie teh sucks

any other opinions?

My brother is a film critic.

He said it was lame.

46 Stanghazi  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 6:01:10pm

Did WW leave? Must I scroll back?

47 Wile E. Wonka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 6:13:52pm

re: #40 Kragar

DAMMIT GAY MARRIAGE!
/

Hey, wait, you mean gay marriage has been legal in Spain for eight freakin’ years and nobody bothered to tell me?

There goes my dream of opening a chain of quickie wedding chapels on Ibiza, staffed by Klaus Nomi impersonators…
/

(exactly eight years, as it happens. Feliz Aniversario!)

48 Tigger2005  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 6:21:16pm

“Oh no…Elastigirl? You married ELASTIGIRL? …And got BI-ZAY! It’s a whole family of supers! Oh, this is too good!”

49 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 6:21:28pm

Just checking the logs, and noticed we had a spammer trying to auto-post comments most of the day - not one got through.

50 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 6:24:41pm

By the way, PAGES AUTHORS!

There’s a new version of the bookmarklet tonight that auto-embeds the YouTube video or SoundCloud audio from any page at Right Wing Watch in your page. You may want to delete and reinstall the bookmarklet.

51 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 6:27:18pm

Bryan, old buddy. This still isn’t going to get you laid.

52 Stanghazi  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 6:30:17pm

B-Sharp you here? I lol that you and Cinnanun hooked up.

53 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 6:30:23pm

re: #49 Charles Johnson

Just checking the logs, and noticed we had a spammer trying to auto-post comments most of the day - not one got through.

dammm…the LGF site condoms really are effective!

54 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 6:30:28pm

re: #51 Romantic Heretic

Bryan, old buddy. This still isn’t going to get you laid.

To quote the classics

“Dude, you couldn’t get laid in a whore house with a $100 bill sticking out of your pants.”
“Yeah, I could!”
“No Dude. You’re a piece of shit.”

55 Randall Gross  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 6:32:43pm

If you haven’t checked out the new John Scofield album, “Uberjam Deux” you might want to, I particularly like Camelus and Al Green song.

56 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 6:33:11pm

I realized something awesome.

The military pulled the trigger on knocking over Morsi & the Muslim Brotherhood today after meeting with El-Baradei, the Coptic Pope, and the Grand Imam of Al-Azhar University.

The Coptic Church has been around since approximately 42 CE, and fully separated from the rest of the church after the Council of Chalcedon in 451 CE. So, depending on your count, the Coptic Church is either 1,971 years old, or 1,562 years old.

Al-Azhar University has been around since 970 CE. Making its age 1,043 years old.

Both of these organizations, two of the oldest still extant organizations on the planet (Catholic Church sits between them) decided it was a good day to pull the trigger on the radical upstart Muslim Brotherhood, which is a scant 85 years old.

There is something amazing about that.

57 aagcobb  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 6:34:10pm

re: #30 Justanotherhuman

“Get busy” so Fischer can watch. You just know he’s a voyeur…

I’m pretty sure he watches lots of hard core gay porn so that he can be, ahem, outraged.

58 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 6:36:46pm

re: #56 ProTARDISLiberal

That is between (depending on how you count the Coptic Church) somewhere between 2,605 and 3,014 years of combined history between those two.

Mind-blowing.

59 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 6:37:26pm
60 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 6:40:03pm

re: #57 aagcobb

I’m pretty sure he watches lots of hard core gay porn so that he can be, ahem, outraged.

Its research.

61 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 6:43:32pm

re: #43 Justanotherhuman

Is that “technocratic government” going to be the caretaker until elections can be held?

Interesting article on technocratic govts by Joshua A. Tucker,
Professor of Politics NYU:

So what exactly is a technocrat anyway?
What is a ‘technocrat’? And why are technocratic governments all the rage these days in Europe?

aljazeera.com

The Egyptian military says so, but I have my doubts that the eventual election will actually be free and fair.

62 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 6:43:47pm

re: #26 Wile E. Wonka

I used to call the whole anti-choicer movement “pro-human-biomass”. Back when I was a little more freshly-removed from my fundie upbringing. Seemed like nothing in the world was so important to ‘em as cranking out endless iterations of the Made In Hiz Image genome.

Ever since I was a wee little tyke I believed there were already enough people in the world. There are probably millions of children in the world living in foster homes and orphanages that could really go for a good adoptin’, ya know? In fact, one of the best arguments for allowing gay couples to adopt kids is that they very deliberately, and presumably thoughtfully, want to be parents. It’s not like you can get drunk and accidentally adopt a child one wild Saturday night, after all. (Note: this may or may not be true in certain regions of central Europe from which my ancestors hail. However, I digress.)

I’ve often heard people (especially my ex mother-in-law) say that the decision not to have children is somehow “selfish”. I can’t begin to understand that pretzel logic. In my opinion, someone who believes their own particular genome is so special and precious that they just absolutely MUST have a little copy of it running around is far more selfish than someone who doesn’t.

63 Archangelus  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 6:45:41pm
I will leave you, gentle reader, with the horrifying image of Bryan Fischer “getting busy.”

* Searches the neighborhood for industrial-grade brain bleach*

64 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 6:46:28pm

re: #61 Dark_Falcon

The Egyptian military says so, but I have my doubts that the eventual election will actually be free and fair.

I remain hopeful, if nothing else now that we’ve seen a group of religious extremists get elected its not like they can really elect somebody else who is worse, can they?

65 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 6:47:27pm

re: #64 jamesfirecat

I remain hopeful, if nothing else now that we’ve seen a group of religious extremists get elected its not like they can really elect somebody else who is worse, can they?

James, it can always get worse. Believe me, it can always get worse.

66 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 6:49:44pm
67 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 6:51:40pm

re: #65 Dark_Falcon

James, it can always get worse. Believe me, it can always get worse.

Fair enough, but part of why I’m a progressive is refusing to cling to the evils of today soley for fear of what the future may bring.

Any bloodless ousting of a group of religious zealots that is supported by the majority of the population is probably a good thing in my book….

(Another of my amazing liberal powers is the ability to parse any comment into total pointlessness!)

68 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 6:51:42pm

re: #63 Archangelus

* Searches the neighborhood for industrial-grade brain bleach*

Image: AOlodlg.png

69 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 6:52:01pm

OK, get busy, here’s a fun thing to do on a dull Tues night.

pleated-jeans.com

Just for Bryan Fischer:

Shakespeare: “A Midsummer Night’s Ream”

70 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 6:52:15pm

I started watching The Hobbit. I totally enjoyed the LOTR movies, as well as all the books when I was a kid.

WTF. A bunch of guys all covered with a bunch of prosthetics! IT LOOKS SO SHITTY AND FAKE.

I read Tolkien’s essay on the suspension of disbelief in an audience of fantasy, how necessary it is to maintain the illusion and not “give away” behind the scenes.

This new 48 FPS just makes everything look like the FAKE MOVIE SET IT IS.

NEEDS MOAR CGI.

71 Lidane  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 6:54:32pm

re: #62 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

I’ve often heard people (especially my ex mother-in-law) say that the decision not to have children is somehow “selfish”. I can’t begin to understand that pretzel logic.

I’ve had that particular bit of “wisdom” thrown at me. I don’t think I’m being selfish at all. I’m 40. If I got pregnant now, that pregnancy would be higher risk because of my age. I’m also dealing with graduate student loan debt, which will take years to pay off. WHY would I add to my current debt with doctor and hospital bills and the expenses of raising a child?

OTOH, I saw plenty of pregnancy obsessed women who WERE selfish in many of the PCOS support groups I used to be in. All they focused on was getting pregnant no matter the cost or what they had to go through to have a baby. They’d post their ovulation charts and temps, and they’d also get mad at their husband/boyfriend if he had the gall to be tired or uninterested in sex on a particular night. They’d even get angry at anyone on their FB feed who was having babies because those people were somehow at fault for their fertility issues. THAT is selfish. Deciding that having children isn’t in my financial or health-related cards? Not selfish.

I’ve also heard the canard that I can’t possibly understand what real love is because I don’t have children. Honestly, I think that’s bullshit. Who are those people to tell me whether or not I know what love is? Fuck that noise.

72 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 6:54:49pm

re: #70 Vicious Babushka

See just above your comment on LOTR, or, LFTR as it’s called at that site.

And I can’t even remember what day it is. Too many book titles running through my head…

73 Randall Gross  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 6:55:55pm

Wireless tech is finally starting to get it right…. my Ipod is synching with my computer via wireless after I buy new tunes because I have the libraries shared or something like that…

74 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 6:56:09pm

re: #70 Vicious Babushka

I started watching The Hobbit. I totally enjoyed the LOTR movies, as well as all the books when I was a kid.

WTF. A bunch of guys all covered with a bunch of prosthetics! IT LOOKS SO SHITTY AND FAKE.

I read Tolkien’s essay on the suspension of disbelief in an audience of fantasy, how necessary it is to maintain the illusion and not “give away” behind the scenes.

This new 48 FPS just makes everything look like the FAKE MOVIE SET IT IS.

NEEDS MOAR CGI.

I have not yet seen the hobbit, I am too worried about what will happen if you try and take a 900 page collection of three books and turn them into three movies and then after that try and take a 300 page or so book and turn it also into three movies….

75 Randall Gross  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 6:57:10pm

re: #66 Charles Johnson

You have allies?

76 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 6:57:32pm

I will probably watch the whole movie anyway but this 48 FPS is just shining a spotlight on all the dirt and the flaws. A really shitty technique for a fantasy movie which should be softened, not super hi-res.

It is possible to fall in love with technique and lose the big picture.

THOSE DWARVES LOOK FAKER THAN SNEEZY, DOPEY AND DOC.

77 Weet  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 6:58:11pm

re: #42 ProTARDISLiberal

Sad news out of here and Wyoming:

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:’(

More info.
Link

78 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 6:58:17pm

re: #65 Dark_Falcon

Glass half full? Glass half empty? Or neither?

79 jaunte  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 6:58:28pm

re: #66 Charles Johnson

“I’ve been thrown out of better other bars than this!”

80 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 6:59:12pm

re: #62 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Ever since I was a wee little tyke I believed there were already enough people in the world. There are probably millions of children in the world living in foster homes and orphanages that could really go for a good adoptin’, ya know? In fact, one of the best arguments for allowing gay couples to adopt kids is that they very deliberately, and presumably thoughtfully, want to be parents. It’s not like you can get drunk and accidentally adopt a child one wild Saturday night, after all. (Note: this may or may not be true in certain regions of central Europe from which my ancestors hail. However, I digress.)

I’ve often heard people (especially my ex mother-in-law) say that the decision not to have children is somehow “selfish”. I can’t begin to understand that pretzel logic. In my opinion, someone who believes their own particular genome is so special and precious that they just absolutely MUST have a little copy of it running around is far more selfish than someone who doesn’t.

No, the “selfish” version is being libertarian and then claiming that one shouldn’t be paying school taxes in order to pay for the public education of other people’s little brats. (Of course simply ignoring the impact of not providing for an educated citizenry.)

81 calochortus  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:01:01pm

re: #71 Lidane

Umm yeah. My husband and I had kids because we wanted to. It was a good decision for us, so you know what? We don’t feel the urge to tell other people what they ought to be doing reproductively. I’d like to have grandchildren at some point, but that is also not really my business, is it?
I do feel sorry for the couples who really, really want children and can’t have them. (Not saying you don’t.)

82 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:02:16pm

I selfishly had a whole big bunch of kids. But you know what? FAMILY GATHERINGS ARE TEH AWESOME.

83 Gus  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:03:09pm


Please, RT.

84 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:05:48pm

re: #83 Gus

85 Stanghazi  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:05:50pm

re: #71 Lidane

I’m older than you, kid free and happe e e e.

Selfish? Say smart. My family compares me to my at times dead beat dad brother. He’s better now, but his kids have suffered.

It’s a choice and no ones business.

86 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:06:46pm
87 Randall Gross  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:06:50pm
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The new post problem.

88 Gus  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:09:26pm

re: #84 Charles Johnson

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They hate Mona because she’s not stark raving anti-Israel crackpots like themselves. That and they might be all broken up about the events taking place in Egypt.

89 jaunte  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:11:11pm
90 Gus  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:11:20pm


MJ Rosenberg RT’s that.

91 jaunte  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:11:42pm

Sounds like Greenwald’s writing style.

92 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:13:17pm

re: #70 Vicious Babushka

I appreciate CGI when it’s not so obvious and over-the-top that it’s distracting, but I think movies from pre-CGI days that used carefully lit miniatures and matte paintings are usually more “satisfying”, somehow. The original Star Wars (minus the “Special Edition” tomfoolery) is a more visually exciting experience to me than most of the much more slick and extravagant visual effects-heavy movies of today. Same goes for 2001: A Space Odyssey, even though I know more people seem to dislike it than not.

The idea of people from many different skilled backgrounds spending days or weeks designing, constructing, detailing, and figuring out how to light and shoot a set that is going to get 10 minutes of screen time fires my particular enjoyment neurons more readily than the same amount of effort spent designing and rendering CGI. I don’t know if CGI is really even quicker or cheaper than doing it the “analog” way. Is it?

93 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:14:31pm

re: #87 Randall Gross

I’m checking into it - try again. I think it may be related to the way you’re adding tags. Instead of choosing a bunch of tags from the suggestion list, it’s better to re-use tags so that if someone clicks on a tag they’ll go to the pages with those tags.

By using so many unrelated tags, what’s happening is that your personal tag library is filling up with tags that are only used once, and that DB lookup is timing out because there are so many.

94 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:14:42pm
95 Randall Gross  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:15:47pm

Saving the juice:

ksdk.com

96 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:16:27pm

re: #90 Gus

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MJ Rosenberg RT’s that.

Not surprising.

97 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:16:35pm

re: #92 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

I appreciate CGI when it’s not so obvious and over-the-top that it’s distracting, but I think movies from pre-CGI days that used carefully lit miniatures and matte paintings are usually more “satisfying”, somehow. The original Star Wars (minus the “Special Edition” tomfoolery) is a more visually exciting experience to me than most of the much more slick and extravagant visual effects-heavy movies of today. Same goes for 2001: A Space Odyssey, even though I know more people seem to dislike it than not.

The idea of people from many different skilled backgrounds spending days or weeks designing, constructing, detailing, and figuring out how to light and shoot a set that is going to get 10 minutes of screen time fires my particular enjoyment neurons more readily than the same amount of effort spent designing and rendering CGI. I don’t know if CGI is really even quicker or cheaper than doing it the “analog” way. Is it?

I just could not get into a bunch of actors full of fake beards and prosthetics. They look like a 4th grade production of Snow White, but MOAR EXPENSIVE COSTUMEZ.

98 Randall Gross  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:16:44pm

re: #94 Vicious Babushka

She is the drone king, she can do anything?

99 Lidane  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:17:22pm

re: #81 calochortus

I do feel sorry for the couples who really, really want children and can’t have them. (Not saying you don’t.)

I mean, yeah. I get it. If a couple really wants a baby and fertility problems arise, then yes. I do feel bad for those couples. But these women took it to a whole different level that was to the point where they were obsessed with babies and with getting pregnant.

Aside from the temp and ovulation charts, there was endless discussion about which snake oil “natural supplement” could help with increasing fertility and which old wives’ tale bit of advice would help them get pregnant faster. But what soured me the most were the times when someone would get angry at a co-worker or a friend or a relative that got pregnant, like that person somehow didn’t deserve a baby and they did. It was off-putting.

100 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:17:47pm

Be wary of the nutcases on your side, they may be on your side but they’re nutcases. It’s a problem.

101 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:18:01pm

re: #98 Randall Gross

She is the drone king, she can do anything?

I think Max was referring to POTUS as “Drone King.” He sounds like an angry wingnut.

I LOL’d at “The Hobbit” opening credits. “Wingnut Productions.”

102 Weet  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:18:30pm

re: #70 Vicious Babushka

I started watching The Hobbit. I totally enjoyed the LOTR movies, as well as all the books when I was a kid.

WTF. A bunch of guys all covered with a bunch of prosthetics! IT LOOKS SO SHITTY AND FAKE.

I read Tolkien’s essay on the suspension of disbelief in an audience of fantasy, how necessary it is to maintain the illusion and not “give away” behind the scenes.

This new 48 FPS just makes everything look like the FAKE MOVIE SET IT IS.

NEEDS MOAR CGI.

Love LOTR. The Hobbit, for me, might as well have been titled “Peter Jackson sells out”. So disappointed.

103 Randall Gross  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:19:04pm

re: #101 Vicious Babushka

I know that, just quoting Morrison in an inappropriate manner.

104 Lidane  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:20:02pm

re: #102 Weet

Love LOTR. The Hobbit, for me, might as well have been titled “Peter Jackson sells out”. So disappointed.

I have chosen to avoid The Hobbit. I never liked the book much anyway.

I’ve got my extended collector’s edition LOTR discs and that’s enough Tolkien for me.

105 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:22:14pm

re: #102 Weet

Love LOTR. The Hobbit, for me, might as well have been titled “Peter Jackson sells out”. So disappointed.

LOTR was great. “The Hobbit” he is dragging it out with all kinds of shit that was not in the original book, it’s actually MOAR HI-RES 48 FPS LOTR WITH MOAR FAKE BEARDS & EARZ BUT NO WIMMENZ.

How do dwarves reproduce?

106 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:22:25pm
107 AlexRogan  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:23:28pm

re: #106 Charles Johnson

Rawwwwrrrrrr…

108 Gus  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:27:06pm

The Night of the Dudebros™ Staring Jeremy Scahill and Max Blumenthal. With a special appearance by MJ Rosenberg.

109 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:27:34pm

re: #67 jamesfirecat

Fair enough, but part of why I’m a progressive is refusing to cling to the evils of today soley for fear of what the future may bring.

Any bloodless ousting of a group of religious zealots that is supported by the majority of the population is probably a good thing in my book….

(Another of my amazing liberal powers is the ability to parse any comment into total pointlessness!)

The way I see it, you always have to hope things get better and work to make them better, but at the same time be aware that wrong paths exist and what they are. One shouldn’t dwell on them. but to ignore them is folly.

110 calochortus  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:28:39pm

re: #99 Lidane

Yeah, I agree that was less than reasonable. As in, really annoying.

111 engineer cat  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:30:07pm

re: #105 Vicious Babushka

How do dwarves reproduce?

hp laser printer

112 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:30:42pm

re: #84 Charles Johnson

Every time I start to think of myself as a despicable piece of shit, I just go on the internet for 15 minutes and find out that I’m approximately in the 30th percentile.

113 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:30:50pm

Image: 205479-egypt.jpg

Egyptians hug and kiss an army soldier after a broadcast confirming the army will temporarily be taking over from the country’s first democratically elected president Mohammed Morsi. Picture: AFP PHOTO/MOHAMED EL-SHAHED

I like this pic a lot for some reason. Kind of an early version of Lemon Party.

114 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:32:49pm

re: #105 Vicious Babushka

LOTR was great. “The Hobbit” he is dragging it out with all kinds of shit that was not in the original book, it’s actually MOAR HI-RES 48 FPS LOTR WITH MOAR FAKE BEARDS & EARZ BUT NO WIMMENZ.

How do dwarves reproduce?

That is sort of what I figured. You can turn a 900 page series of books into nine plus hours of movie and there is still stuff you are gonna leave out. If you try to do that to a single 300 page book though… You’re gonna have to add in a bunch of padding.

That’s why my gut was against going to see The Hobbit.

115 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:33:30pm

re: #108 Gus

The Night of the DudebrosTM Staring Jeremy Scahill and Max Blumenthal. With a special appearance by MJ Rosenberg.

If MJ joins them then it is The Night of the Dweebros”

116 jaunte  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:34:20pm

re: #108 Gus


Spanish language buddy picture playing next door.

117 Gus  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:34:37pm

re: #115 Vicious Babushka

If MJ joins them then it is The Night of the Dweebros”

Yeah, he’s already lost about something.

118 Gus  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:34:50pm

Derp.

119 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:35:26pm

re: #114 jamesfirecat

That is sort of what I figured. You can turn a 900 page series of books into nine plus hours of movie and there is still stuff you are gonna leave out. If you try to do that to a single 300 page book though… You’re gonna have to add in a bunch of padding.

That’s why my gut was against going to see The Hobbit.

The NO GIRLZ thing bothered me when I read The Hobbit and LOTR as a teenager, but now it bothers me a whole lot more.

120 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:36:03pm

re: #113 Killgore Trout

Image: 205479-egypt.jpg

I like this pic a lot for some reason. Kind of an early version of Lemon Party.

I don’t know if you’re trying to troll people into googling “lemon party”, or if you just have a genuinely bizarre outlook.

I have the idea in my head that you weren’t always this way, but if pressed to present evidence for this assertion, I would fail.

121 Gus  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:37:08pm

Womp! There it is!

122 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:37:16pm

re: #118 Gus

Derp.

He thinks the dude with the cigarette hanging off his lip is SO KEWL but only a dweeb would have an avatar pic like that.

123 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:37:57pm

Ed Snowden reminds me of Lee Harvey Oswald.

124 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:39:21pm

re: #101 Vicious Babushka

I think Max was referring to POTUS as “Drone King.” He sounds like an angry wingnut.

I LOL’d at “The Hobbit” opening credits. “Wingnut Productions.”

Indeed. Though hostilely referring to the president as ‘king’ has a long pedigree, it has currently taken an uglier than usual cast. Calling Obama ‘king’ anything is normally a sign that much of the critic’s beef is with the fact that Barack Obama is black.

125 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:41:14pm
126 Gus  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:43:49pm


Yeesh. Freaking stupid.

127 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:47:13pm
128 jaunte  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:47:39pm
129 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:48:50pm

re: #123 Vicious Babushka

Ed Snowden reminds me of Lee Harvey Oswald.

The backyard photo of Oswald with his rifle and Marxist newspapers — half-assed ideology in one hand and the destruction of a presidency in the other. Driven to fulfill his dramatically overinflated sense of self-importance.

I find this notion very interesting, but incomplete. I realize you’re probably not asserting literal parallels. Care to elaborate?

130 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:49:32pm
131 engineer cat  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:53:17pm

State dept issues stmt disputing our report that we saw John Kerry on a boat in Nantucket today. Says he has been working “all day” on Egypt

where else are you going to get any work done on your limericks?

132 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:54:02pm

re: #129 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

The backyard photo of Oswald with his rifle and Marxist newspapers — half-assed ideology in one hand and the destruction of a presidency in the other. Driven to fulfill his dramatically overinflated sense of self-importance.

I find this notion very interesting, but incomplete. I realize you’re probably not asserting literal parallels. Care to elaborate?

I think they have similar personalities, and if Snowden had been around during the ‘60’s the Soviets could have manipulated him just as they manipulated Oswald. In fact Snowden is a total loser and has been manipulated by Glenn Greenwald and Wikileaks to figuratively “assassinate” Obama.

133 jaunte  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:56:26pm
134 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:57:55pm

re: #132 Vicious Babushka

I think they have similar personalities, and if Snowden had been around during the ‘60’s the Soviets could have manipulated him just as they manipulated Oswald. In fact Snowden is a total loser and has been manipulated by Glenn Greenwald and Wikileaks to figuratively “assassinate” Obama.

Yeah, I can see that. In both cases you have someone who’s never fit in well going abroad with anger towards America in his heart.

135 Randall Gross  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 7:59:52pm
136 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:00:46pm

re: #120 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

I don’t know if you’re trying to troll people into googling “lemon party”, or if you just have a genuinely bizarre outlook.

I have the idea in my head that you weren’t always this way, but if pressed to present evidence for this assertion, I would fail.

I liked the pic. They seem happy and it made me smile. No need to get weird about it.

137 jaunte  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:00:49pm

re: #135 Randall Gross

Wow, he said “sovereign country.”

138 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:01:41pm

This is also pretty epic
Image: 055004-egpyt-crowds-celebrate.jpg

139 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:02:50pm

Max Blumenthal, MJ and the other white “dudebros” complaining that AngryBlackLady is being anti-white “racist” and anti-male “sexist” towards them is just…I can’t…

140 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:07:47pm

re: #134 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, I can see that. In both cases you have someone who’s never fit in well going abroad with anger towards America in his heart.

And:

“I have BIG IDEAS. The People will rise up against Western Tyranny once they hear the message that I am uniquely placed to bring them.”

Oswald and his Fair Play for Cuba fliers. Huge difference is that next to nobody gave a shit about Oswald, but Snowden has a global audience.

141 Gus  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:09:07pm
142 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:10:02pm

re: #139 Vicious Babushka

Max Blumenthal, MJ and the other white “dudebros” complaining that AngryBlackLady is being anti-white “racist” and anti-male “sexist” towards them is just…I can’t…

The word you’re looking for is hilarious. As in if I didn’t laugh I’d cry…

And, yeah, I’ll take her word for anything over Max & MJ.

143 sattv4u2  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:10:33pm

re: #136 Killgore Trout

I liked the pic. They seem happy and it made me smile. No need to get weird about it.

Maybe if you changed your name ,,,

:)

144 jaunte  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:11:07pm

re: #139 Vicious Babushka

145 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:13:14pm

re: #120 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

I don’t know if you’re trying to troll people into googling “lemon party”, or if you just have a genuinely bizarre outlook.

I have the idea in my head that you weren’t always this way, but if pressed to present evidence for this assertion, I would fail.

Search LGF for quotes from before OWS happened. He got all skeered of the Reds Under His Bed then and hasn’t been the same since.

146 sattv4u2  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:15:45pm

re: #145 William Barnett-Lewis

Search LGF for quotes from before OWS happened. He got all skeered of the Reds Under His Bed then and hasn’t been the same since.

he didn’t get “all skeered” of anything

He pointed out the same problems with the OWS heirarchy/ organizers that he did when The Tea party started to which he got roundly applauded here

147 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:15:56pm

Meanwhile, in Egypt:

Screw you MB!

148 Gus  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:17:21pm
149 Gus  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:20:08pm

Lame. I think that’s awesome and should be viral already.

//

150 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:20:35pm

re: #146 sattv4u2

he didn’t get “all skeered” of anything

He pointed out the same problems with the OWS heirarchy/ organizers that he did when The Tea party started to which he got roundly applauded here

Sorry, but I was here too. He went off the deep end out of fear of the “scary rapey stabby radicals” and hasn’t been totally sane about any issue since. All you have to do is look at his cheering of the utterly unjustifiable assault of the so-called trust fund kids to see what I am referring to.

I keep hoping he’ll snap out of it - the old KT was a really good person.

151 engineer cat  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:21:07pm

brainz eatz movie

doan want!

152 Gus  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:25:36pm
153 engineer cat  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:25:51pm

re: #149 Gus

Lame. I think that’s awesome and should be viral already.

//

what is memed can never be unmeme

154 Gus  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:26:26pm

re: #153 engineer cat

what is memed can never be unmeme

Yep. I work for free sometimes. ;)

155 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:27:56pm

Wow. The fucking insanity goes all the way to the top.

156 jaunte  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:28:43pm

re: #155 Charles Johnson

If he tweets that after having seen the video, he really is an idiot.

157 Gus  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:29:49pm

re: #155 Charles Johnson

Wow. The fucking insanity goes all the way to the top.

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158 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:30:19pm

re: #155 Charles Johnson

Wow. The fucking insanity goes all the way to the top.

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Ari, if you’re too stupid to understand that evil people can sing “amazing grace” then how do you still manage to breath? It’s like domestic turkeys drowning in the rain…

159 engineer cat  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:30:44pm

re: #153 engineer cat

what is memed can never be unmeme

d

160 jaunte  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:31:02pm

It’s a farce dichotomy.

161 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:32:33pm

This is one of the times when I almost can’t believe how totally insane the right has gotten. They’re ALL doubling down on this “Hail Satan” idiocy.

Man, I wish these people had come out and said this shit years ago. I would have known much sooner to run away as fast as I could.

162 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:32:37pm

re: #155 Charles Johnson

Wow. The fucking insanity goes all the way to the top.

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Once again, never go full retard.

163 Gus  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:34:15pm

re: #162 Kragar

Once again, never go full retard.

Youtube Video

164 wrenchwench  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:34:18pm

re: #155 Charles Johnson

Wow. The fucking insanity goes all the way to the top.

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That chanting was personally verified by deleted tweets!

165 AlexRogan  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:34:19pm

re: #145 William Barnett-Lewis

Search LGF for quotes from before OWS happened. He got all skeered of the Reds Under His Bed then and hasn’t been the same since.

KT has become Frank Burns from M*A*S*H (Larry Linville’s ‘better dead than Red’ version from the TV series, not Robert Duvall’s hypocritical Biblethumper-on-steroids from the movie).

166 Lidane  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:35:13pm

re: #161 Charles Johnson

This is one of the times when I almost can’t believe how totally insane the right has gotten. They’re ALL doubling down on this “Hail Satan” idiocy.

Man, I wish these people had come out and said this shit years ago. I would have known much sooner to run away as fast as I could.

They DID say it years ago. Crazy Uncle Pat Buchanan’s 1992 RNC speech could still be given today, but this time it would probably get him nominated.

167 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:36:30pm

re: #165 AlexRogan

KT has become Frank Burns from M*A*S*H (Larry Linville’s ‘better dead than Red’ Burns from the TV series, not Robert Duvall’s Biblethumper-on-steroids Burns from the movie).

Important distinction there :) I actually preferred, as a foil, the version of Burns on TV.

168 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:36:47pm
169 twisty  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:37:28pm

re: #161 Charles Johnson

Expect this to come up during the next few election cycles. It’s the perfect Zombie Meme since so many want so badly to believe it.

170 jaunte  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:37:57pm

Note: Satan still notably fictional. The bad news: humans totally responsible.

171 Gus  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:38:44pm

re: #168 Charles Johnson

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Yes and Kerry was on his yacht, PRISM watches everything you do and the DHS has 2,000 tanks. Also, FEMA camps. Morales was last seen buzzing the field in his Dassault Falcon.

172 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:39:03pm

The #HailSatan hashtag is still raging out of control.

173 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:39:33pm

This is why America can’t have nice things.

174 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:39:44pm

re: #163 Gus

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To Ari:

Youtube Video

175 AlexRogan  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:40:33pm

re: #172 Charles Johnson

The #HailSatan hashtag is still raging out of control.

Damn, these people are fucking mindblowingly stupid…

176 Gus  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:43:53pm

re: #173 Charles Johnson

This is why America can’t have nice things.

Youtube Video

177 jaunte  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:44:14pm
Meanwhile, as Wendy Davis walked through the Capitol’s Rotunda, the crowds went wild.

Pro-choice supporters continue to chant.

“Not the church, not the state, women must decide their fate!”

“The people, united, will never be defeated!”
mysanantonio.com

Sounds like… SATAN!

178 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:44:34pm

re: #170 jaunte

Note: Satan still notably fictional. The bad news: humans totally responsible.

Satan exists, its just that he didn’t influence that pro-access to abortion demonstration. I think he did influence some of the replies to it, but that’s to be expected. One might not expect the father of lies to appeal to people with morality, but the Devil can deploy whatever kind of evil he wants to make the world a worse place.

179 jaunte  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:46:40pm

re: #178 Dark_Falcon

I think you’re letting people off too easily.

180 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:49:28pm

re: #178 Dark_Falcon

Satan exists, its just that he didn’t influence that pro-access to abortion demonstration. I think he did influence some of the replies to it, but that’s to be expected. One might not expect the father of lies to appeal to people with morality, but the Devil can deploy whatever kind of evil he wants to make the world a worse place.

I blame Loki.

181 Gus  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:49:41pm

There is no Satan. Just my opinion. YMMV. Still.

182 Gus  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:51:23pm
183 AlexRogan  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:51:40pm

re: #167 William Barnett-Lewis

Important distinction there :) I actually preferred, as a foil, the version of Burns on TV.

Though, I do like, in the movie, how Sutherland’s Hawkeye drove Duvall’s Burns to insanity during their talk in the mess tent (and Radar’s running commentary to Col. Blake outside the tent).

184 sagehen  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:51:45pm

re: #166 Lidane

They DID say it years ago. Crazy Uncle Pat Buchanan’s 1992 RNC speech could still be given today, but this time it would probably get him nominated.

Is that the speech that Ann Richards said “it sounded better in the original German”?

185 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:52:01pm

re: #178 Dark_Falcon

We don’t completely agree, but I get where you’re coming from.

186 Mattand  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:52:59pm

re: #178 Dark_Falcon

Satan exists, its just that he didn’t influence that pro-access to abortion demonstration. I think he did influence some of the replies to it, but that’s to be expected. One might not expect the father of lies to appeal to people with morality, but the Devil can deploy whatever kind of evil he wants to make the world a worse place.

Just what the abortion debate needs: more religion.

187 AlexRogan  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:53:51pm

re: #184 sagehen

Is that the speech that Ann Richards said “it sounded better in the original German”?

IIRC, it is.

And the really “good” parts are conspiciously missing from the Web; I wonder why that is?

188 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:56:20pm

Satan is many things: a projection of the human fears of Death and the Other, a convenient scapegoat when things go wrong, a way of keeping the frightened masses in line. One thing he’s not and never has been: an actual entity.

189 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:57:18pm

re: #179 jaunte

I think you’re letting people off too easily.

I disagree. The Devil didn’t make anyone do anything here; What he did was tempt those who dislike abortion to walk the path of hysteria and support for tyranny. But those who walk that path have chosen to walk it and refuse to see it as such.

Satan thrives on fear-driven blindness and self-deception.

190 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:58:27pm

re: #172 Charles Johnson

The #HailSatan hashtag is still raging out of control.

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Unrelated, but I’ll assert this confidently: If there’s a Satan, his personal version of “The Theme from Shaft” is “Amazing Grace,” and his preference is for it to be played on the fucking bagpipes.

I hate that stupid song almost as much as I hate the near-universal perfunctory faux reverence for it, and if I live to be a billion years old I will never understand how anyone can stand to listen to an instrument that somehow combines droning with honking into a timbre that sounds like a goose being tortured to death.

Nobody in my family will admit to it, but despite the song having no discernible relevance to anyone in attendance, *someone* arranged to have it sung at my dad’s funeral, which was itself an altogether wretched affair. The person who sang it warbled like a phonograph record with the hole punched off-center. I would swear that her vibrato was about two and a half steps on either side of the note. Of every note. It was like watching a parody of a funeral service.

I thought the song was corny and cloying before that, but my dad’s cheesy package-tour funeral drove the last nail in its coffin.

191 Kragar  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:58:42pm

re: #189 Dark_Falcon

Satan thrives on fear-driven blindness and self-deception.

So he’s a Republican.
/

192 Lidane  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:58:46pm

re: #170 jaunte

Note: Satan still notably fictional. The bad news: humans totally responsible.

Same goes for God. Still fiction, despite all the efforts to prove otherwise.

193 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 8:59:51pm

re: #184 sagehen

Is that the speech that Ann Richards said “it sounded better in the original re: #184 sagehen

Is that the speech that Ann Richards said “it sounded better in the original German”?

German”?

Pat Buchannan and Molly Ivins, but close enough.

194 jaunte  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 9:00:05pm

re: #189 Dark_Falcon

I think misguided self-interest and lack of compassion is part of human nature, not Satan.

195 Lidane  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 9:00:07pm

re: #180 Kragar

I blame Loki.

Loki would come up with something much more interesting than having people chant “Hail Satan”.

196 Mattand  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 9:01:29pm

re: #195 Lidane

Loki would come up with something much more interesting than having people chant “Hail Satan”.

Plus, we’d get to see a totally sweet, kick-ass throwdown between him and Thor.

197 erik_t  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 9:01:57pm

re: #189 Dark_Falcon

I disagree. The Devil didn’t make anyone do anything here; What he did was tempt those who dislike abortion to walk the path of hysteria and support for tyranny.

How does he pull that off? Move the goalposts? Make idle threats? Engage in no-true-ScottsmanChristian arguments? Offer cookies?

Inquiring minds would like to know.

198 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 9:02:04pm

re: #194 jaunte

I think misguided self-interest and lack of compassion is part of human nature, not Satan.

Yeah, externalizing all too human failings is a kind of crutch.

199 Lidane  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 9:02:07pm

re: #189 Dark_Falcon

Satan thrives on fear-driven blindness and self-deception.

No, the hucksters who try to sell the idea of Satan thrive on blindness and self-deception. They push the meme that something or someone else is responsible for your failings and your faults.

200 Gus  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 9:03:07pm

Youtube Video

201 Lidane  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 9:03:07pm

re: #196 Mattand

Plus, we’d get to see a totally sweet, kick-ass throwdown between him and Thor.

And then we’d get to see Hulk go all Droopy Dog on both of them.

Puny gods. Heh.

202 Mattand  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 9:04:24pm

re: #201 Lidane

And then we’d get to see Hulk go all Droopy Dog on both of them.

Puny gods. Heh.

Took me a second to get the Droopy Dog ref. Good one!

203 Gus  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 9:05:41pm
204 jaunte  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 9:06:03pm

Strange bedfellows.

205 Lidane  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 9:06:08pm

re: #202 Mattand

Took me a second to get the Droopy Dog ref. Good one!

Youtube Video

206 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 9:09:56pm

re: #189 Dark_Falcon

I disagree. The Devil didn’t make anyone do anything here; What he did was tempt those who dislike abortion to walk the path of hysteria and support for tyranny. But those who walk that path have chosen to walk it and refuse to see it as such.

Satan thrives on fear-driven blindness and self-deception.

Exactly. You can look at it as a myth or as an anthropomorphism or as an actual super natural being, but the end result in human behavior is still determined by how much those humans are tempted by the potential power of what they seek than by the things that work against it.

One does not, inherently, have to believe in either Satan or Jesus to be able to use the conception of either to frame a discussion.

In the end, those who are terrified of one person saying “satan” are less interested in what the historical rabbi named Jesus taught than they are in what they are told to believe.

DF is probably using the concept of Satan far closer to a literal usage than I am and yet how distant are we really in the sense of our expectations of human behavior?

I believe in God. I believe there was a historical Jesus. I am very unsure, closer to disbelief, about any kind of afterlife. As a result, I’m as heterodox as you can imagine. Take my thoughts as you will.

207 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 9:10:32pm

A reminder of Texas anti-sex legislative idiocy of the recent past: The Dildo Diaries

Youtube Video

208 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 9:11:02pm

re: #191 Kragar

So he’s a Republican.
/

Yes. Without the /.

209 dragonath  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 9:12:49pm

God, this Hail Satan thing is atomically stupid.

210 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 9:15:42pm

re: #194 jaunte

I think misguided self-interest and lack of compassion is part of human nature, not Satan.

Oh, I don’t disagree. The potential for misdeeds of human nature is not Satan’s creation, he’s just the oldest and worst of those who try to use human failing to accomplish their ends.

211 teleskiguy  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 9:16:00pm

How does this guy have an audience? His proper place in the world is standing on a street corner yelling at cars all day.

I shudder to think that Bryan Fischer has the ear of congresspersons and senators.

212 jaunte  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 9:19:19pm

re: #210 Dark_Falcon

I think we need to get rid of the concept. It just makes it easier for people to dehumanize others they disagree with.

So then we have to get to the smiting part.

213 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 9:20:13pm

re: #209 dragonath

God, this Hail Satan thing is atomically stupid.

Yes, and the pro-choice organizers played right into it by being not-very-organizers. They won a great day last week and pissed it away for lack of a new idea.

214 teleskiguy  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 9:22:56pm

re: #42 ProTARDISLiberal

Sad news out of here and Wyoming:

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:’(

Randy Udall was an accomplshed alpinist who lived right near me. The blog Wildsnow has kind words about the man as an alpinist, and more great stories are to come of some of Randy’s adventures. He will be missed.

215 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 9:24:31pm

re: #213 Decatur Deb

Yes, and the pro-choice organizers played right into it by being not-very-organizers. They won a great day last week and pissed it away for lack of a new idea.

That happens often enough. People who get a big win want to do a victory lap then go hoist a few cold drinks, not hunker down for the next round, even if that’s exactly what they need to do. True winners are those who will hunker down and plan for the next fight, even when they want to do something else.

216 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 9:26:29pm

re: #212 jaunte

I think we need to get rid of the concept. It just makes it easier for people to dehumanize others they disagree with.

[Embedded content]

So then we have to get to the smiting part.

Improved handle for the poster of that tweet:

@kooll-aiddrinkerlaura

217 CriticalDragon1177  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 9:52:21pm

re: #3 jamesfirecat

Don’t you just love how the above point dovetails with no abortionsand no contraception?

No surprise, Bryan probably blames this on legalized abortion and contraception.

218 CriticalDragon1177  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 9:57:07pm

re: #117 Gus

Yeah, he’s already lost about something.


If that’s the case she’s messed up. Obama isn’t a god. He doesn’t have the right to do whatever he wants, and if she likes him that much there really is something wrong with her.

219 CriticalDragon1177  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:00:19pm

re: #86 Vicious Babushka

The Horror! Just imagine the level of derp!

220 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:00:26pm

re: #218 CriticalDragon1177

I believe the original remark was meant as sarcasm (kind of like “Hail Satan!”), but teh twitterz don’t get sarcasm. ABL’s remark has now passed into RWNJ-land as Indisputable Truth™, much as hordes of angry Texans chanting “Hail Satan!” has now become a RW meme.

221 alpuz  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:02:57pm

re: #220 wheat-dogghazi

The lost art of Context.

222 CriticalDragon1177  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:07:09pm

Charles Johnson,

Isn’t Ironic how people like Bryan Fischer claim that conservatives ( read the religious right ) are the ones standing in the way of America becoming a tyranny? Its right wing religious fanatics like him who threaten our values the most right now.

223 CriticalDragon1177  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:07:54pm

re: #220 wheat-dogghazi

Oh, I should have realized that. sorry.

224 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:15:05pm

re: #223 CriticalDragon1177

NP.

225 GeneJockey  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:43:38pm

re: #222 CriticalDragon1177

Charles Johnson,

Isn’t Ironic how people like Bryan Fischer claim that conservatives ( read the religious right ) are the ones standing in the way of America becoming a tyranny? Its right wing religious fanatics like him who threaten our values the most right now.

Ah, but it’s not tyranny if they’re the ones making the rules. Then it’s a Freedom and Libertyfest with a side of Freedom Fries.

226 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:45:56pm

re: #225 GeneJockey

Ah, but it’s not tyranny if they’re the ones making the rules. Then it’s a Freedom and Libertyfest with a side of Freedom Fries.

Freedom is for me, not for thee.

227 Weet  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 10:59:58pm

re: #220 wheat-dogghazi

I believe the original remark was meant as sarcasm (kind of like “Hail Satan!”), but teh twitterz don’t get sarcasm. ABL’s remark has now passed into RWNJ-land as Indisputable TruthTM, much as hordes of angry Texans chanting “Hail Satan!” has now become a RW meme.

It has to do with something Greenwald and some other fool said to her. This explains it: Link

228 GeneJockey  Wed, Jul 3, 2013 11:02:49pm

re: #226 wheat-dogghazi

Freedom is for me, not for thee.

Freedom for Fischer and his ilk is the right to make others comply with his whims.

229 thecommodore  Thu, Jul 4, 2013 1:04:42am
I will leave you, gentle reader, with the horrifying image of Bryan Fischer getting busy.

I think Bryan would like to watch Americans “get busy,” and considering his sometimes very detailed fixation with gay sex over the years, I’d be willing to wager that he’d like to watch two gay men get busy. Heck, he’d probably join in.

230 steve_davis  Thu, Jul 4, 2013 5:23:06am

re: #29 Kragar

Turn the lights down, put on some Pat Boone, undo the buttons on the PJs and prepare for a good minute and a half of the marriage act before retiring to your separate beds to pray for forgiveness.

Put on his version of Tutti Fruiti. If that doesn’t take the lime out of your coconuts, nothing will.

231 Mr.Boots  Thu, Jul 4, 2013 6:33:31am

For years after passing anti-abortion protests, I’ve noted to friends that I’ve only seen white folk, mostly older white folk demonstrating here on Long Island. Given the demographics of who is getting abortions, I’ve always wondered if preserving the “White” race was part of the issue. I take no joy in Fischer’s confirmation of this speculation.


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