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1 freetoken  Sat, Jul 6, 2013 9:07:47pm

I could use a 15 hour clock.

There just is never enough time.

I’m working on some 17th to early 18th century genealogy (in Maryland) and deciphering the past has to be one of the most time consuming of endeavors. So many people copy other people’s errors that finding original sources is the only way forward, and that is very time consuming.

2 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 6, 2013 9:39:18pm

A story folks might have missed today:

Authorities identify remains of firefighter killed in Sept. 11 attacks

The remains of an FDNY hero lost on 9/11 have finally been identified — more than 11 years after his tragic death.

A bone fragment from a boot recovered from Ground Zero before May 2002 has been linked to Lt. Jeffrey Walz, a Staten Island native.

“To say it was a shock is to put it mildly,” Walz’s mother, Jennie, 82, said about the recent identification. “It was a stunner. A real blow.”

Walz was assigned to Ladder 9 in the East Village when the terrorists struck the World Trade Center. The notification opened old wounds for Walz’s family.

The Westchester resident left behind his parents, two siblings, a wife and a 3-year-old son. He joined the FDNY in 1992 to follow in his father’s footsteps.

At least his family now has closure. The rest of us must ensure we work to be worthy of the sacrifice of men such as Lt. Walz.

3 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 6, 2013 9:47:19pm

re: #1 freetoken

Freetoken, you’re gonna love this one:

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Source.

4 freetoken  Sat, Jul 6, 2013 11:43:15pm

A quiet Saturday night - time for some Russian war-time music, “Among the open valley”:

MP3 Audio

5 Kragar  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 3:04:33am

Cardinal who slurred U.S. activist facing sexual abuse probe within his diocese

Dominican Cardinal Nicolás de Jesús López Rodríguez, who openly used a homophobic slur against an American diplomatic nominee could be questioned by local authorities in a child molestation case, Towleroad reported on Saturday.

The office of the prosecutor in Santiago, Santo Domingo, is investigating the disappearance of one of Wojciech “Alberto” Gil, a priest in Rodríguez’s diocese who left the country following abuse accusations from several families.

6 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 3:17:44am

re: #1 freetoken

I could use a 15 hour clock.

There just is never enough time.

I’m working on some 17th to early 18th century genealogy (in Maryland) and deciphering the past has to be one of the most time consuming of endeavors. So many people copy other people’s errors that finding original sources is the only way forward, and that is very time consuming.

Oh, I hear you, brother. The Internet has made genealogical research much easier than in the old paper, ink and microfiche days, but it has also made it easier for sloppy research (read: mindless plagiarism) to be disseminated widely. I’ve also found it easy to stumble upon a new family research resource, only to find that it parrots my own research! In other words, 99% of genealogy research now is copying other people’s real research.

I’m sure this happened before Al Gore invented the Internet, but print, ink and microfiche made the process the slower and less widely dispersed. Now, like stupid memes about Hail Satan! and Jackie Chan dying from a 12-story fall, wrong information just gets repeated over and over with no cross-checking.

Venting over. We now return to our regularly scheduled programming.

7 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 5:03:00am

WTF? I haven’t heard a word on this far more devastating accident on MSNBC yet, but they’re all over the SF plane crash. Oil-laden freight train explodes in Canadian town, people killed. reuters.com

Well, maybe because it’s Canada, and even more so, maybe because it’s in Quebec? That train was carrying crude from the Alberta tar sands. The Reuters piece mentions the Keystone XL pipeline and insinuates this may have some bearing on its approval, as though nothing could possibly go wrong with that, either. From what I’ve read, that oil will go straight into the world market anyway, and will benefit only oil speculators and Big Oil.

8 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 6:35:43am

There is, already, an article about the derailment on wiki that is more comprehensive than the garbage from American media outlets.

en.wikipedia.org

9 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 6:38:26am

Snowden/Greenwald/Poitras’s real intent with this BS? Get the entire world paranoid and behind them.

In an interview, Edward Snowden accuses the National Security Agency of partnering with Germany and other governments in its spying activities. New information also indicates close working ties between the German foreign intelligence agency and the American authority. spiegel.de

These 3 ideologically pure libertarian idealists have absolutely no idea of how the world works, IMHO.

10 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 6:41:50am

re: #9 Justanotherhuman

Snowden/Greenwald/Poitras’s real intent with this BS? Get the entire world paranoid and behind them.

In an interview, Edward Snowden accuses the National Security Agency of partnering with Germany and other governments in its spying activities. New information also indicates close working ties between the German foreign intelligence agency and the American authority. spiegel.de

These 3 ideologically pure libertarian idealists have absolutely no idea of how the world works, IMHO.

If everyone only looked out for his or her own best interests, then there would be no need for spy agencies at all, because Ayn Rand.

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11 darthstar  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 7:23:06am

Mornin’ everyone…

12 Gus  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 7:29:34am

Another day of dealing with the Greenwald/Snowden cult.

13 BigPapa  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 7:30:47am

re: #12 Gus

Another day of dealing with the Greenwald/Snowden cult.

The Zombie Apocalypse really is happening. There’s not many of the ‘living’ left.

14 darthstar  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 7:33:42am

re: #12 Gus

Another day of dealing with the Greenwald/Snowden cult.

You mean another day of fucking with the Greenwald/Snowden cult.

15 Gus  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 7:35:05am

re: #14 darthstar

You mean another day of fucking with the Greenwald/Snowden cult.

16 BigPapa  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 7:39:18am

Supplement your income by fucking with morons on Twitter and supporting your country! Become an NSAAB: NSA Apologist Blogger.

17 Gus  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 7:58:38am

Derp.

18 BigPapa  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 7:59:12am

False Flag Cat

19 Gus  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 8:09:51am
20 darthstar  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 8:10:06am
21 efuseakay  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 8:11:18am

Seriously… WTF?

m.bbc.co.uk

22 darthstar  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 8:17:03am
23 darthstar  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 8:17:56am

re: #21 efuseakay

Seriously… WTF?

m.bbc.co.uk

They needed something for a penalty kick.

24 Gus  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 8:19:29am

re: #22 darthstar

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More of those 4th Amendment and FISA issues!

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25 Political Atheist  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 8:20:34am

re: #21 efuseakay

What is it with soccer and crowd violence?

26 darthstar  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 8:20:41am
27 darthstar  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 8:25:17am
28 darthstar  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 8:28:05am
29 jaunte  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 8:29:00am
30 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 8:29:20am

Dead Leaf

you?

31 Weet  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 8:29:55am

re: #8 William Barnett-Lewis

There is, already, an article about the derailment on wiki that is more comprehensive than the garbage from American media outlets.

en.wikipedia.org

So horrific.

“An unofficial list drawn up by residents and posted on the Internet showed about 40 people were still unaccounted for. The gigantic blast, at about 1 a.m. on Saturday, flattened dozens of buildings, including a music bar popular with young people.”

32 Weet  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 8:32:30am

re: #31 Weet

Reuters on the train explosion

33 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 8:33:04am

re: #18 BigPapa

False Flag Cat

PROOF!

They can play dumb, but we now have proof.

34 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 8:33:46am

re: #19 Gus

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Women are G-d’s marketing program?

35 A Mom Anon  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 8:36:36am

re: #34 FemNaziBitch

Oh noes, the womenz in his church aren’t all supermodels. Poor guy. Poor guy who can go fuck himself. Sideways. With a rusty farm implement.

36 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 8:39:41am

re: #7 Justanotherhuman

WTF? I haven’t heard a word on this far more devastating accident on MSNBC yet, but they’re all over the SF plane crash. Oil-laden freight train explodes in Canadian town, people killed. reuters.com

Well, maybe because it’s Canada, and even more so, maybe because it’s in Quebec? That train was carrying crude from the Alberta tar sands. The Reuters piece mentions the Keystone XL pipeline and insinuates this may have some bearing on its approval, as though nothing could possibly go wrong with that, either. From what I’ve read, that oil will go straight into the world market anyway, and will benefit only oil speculators and Big Oil.

According to the article, the train was actually carrying oil from North Dakota, which is extracted by more conventional means.

The train, which had been hauling crude oil from North Dakota to eastern Canada, derailed and blew up early on Saturday in Lac-Megantic, a town of 6,000 on the edge of a deep blue lake and ringed by forests of pine and birch. There was no driver on board.

Please read more carefully.

37 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 8:42:14am

morning obligatory cuteness

38 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 8:42:38am

re: #30 FemNaziBitch

Dead Leaf

you?

kittens had their first veterinarian visit on Friday…
kitten plots revenge for that outrage

39 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 8:43:47am

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

kittens had their first veterinarian visit on Friday…
kitten plots revenge for that outrage

I’ll bet that was fun.

ggt pictures box of kittens opened in vet’s clinic room. kitties everywhere in 5 seconds or less!!!!!

40 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 8:45:29am

re: #30 FemNaziBitch

Dead Leaf

you?

Something like that leaf. In Day 3 of a cold/sinus infection. Stuffy head, sleepy, and periodic mucus floods.

41 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 8:46:21am

re: #8 William Barnett-Lewis

There is, already, an article about the derailment on wiki that is more comprehensive than the garbage from American media outlets.

en.wikipedia.org

Reminds me of that Chris Pine / Denzel Washington movie Unstoppable from a couple years back, minus the happy ending. Are we talking about operator error here?

42 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 8:46:21am

re: #40 Feline Fearless Leader

Something like that leaf. In Day 3 of a cold/sinus infection. Stuffy head, sleepy, and periodic mucus floods.

(((((feline fearless leader)))))

I feel your pain!

43 A Mom Anon  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 8:48:07am

re: #36 Dark_Falcon

Why in the hell would a train carrying something that potentially dangerous not have a driver? That’s weapons grade stupid. And now the water and soil in that area is going to be wrecked for a very long time. Automating everything isn’t always the best idea. And money shouldn’t always be the most important thing.

44 efuseakay  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 8:50:41am

re: #25 Political Atheist

What is it with soccer and crowd violence?

It’s par for the course but for a ref to stab a player? Geez.

45 jaunte  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 8:52:20am

re: #43 A Mom Anon

I was trying to find some information yesterday about increased rail freight in the past few years, thinking that the increase in North American oil & gas production has got to be putting some additional pressure on our rail infrastructure; one statistic I found was that there was an approximate 45% increase in crude oil rail transport in 2012. That’s a lot of added weight/wear & tear on the rails, roadbeds and bridges.

46 darthstar  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 8:54:16am

re: #44 efuseakay

It’s par for the course but for a ref to stab a player? Geez.

Soon, it will be a reality. I’m holding out for Rollerball myself, but…
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47 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 8:54:20am

re: #45 jaunte

I was trying to find some information yesterday about increased rail freight in the past few years, thinking that the increase in North American oil & gas production has got to be putting some additional pressure on our rail infrastructure; one statistic I found was that there was an approximate 45% increase in crude oil rail transport in 2012. That’s a lot of added weight/wear & tear on the rails, roadbeds and bridges.

I’m not sure of the status of of the RR infrastructure. That would be interesting research —if I had the time.

48 A Mom Anon  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 8:55:23am

re: #45 jaunte

Sigh. But noooo, we can haz no money for infrastructure improvements to create jobs. How long before something like that happens here? I hope Canada takes lessons from this, we sure as hell don’t seem to anymore.

49 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 8:55:47am

re: #43 A Mom Anon

Why in the hell would a train carrying something that potentially dangerous not have a driver? That’s weapons grade stupid. And now the water and soil in that area is going to be wrecked for a very long time. Automating everything isn’t always the best idea. And money shouldn’t always be the most important thing.

The crew was off the train for mandatory rest time. The investigation is going to center on if they properly parked the train and if they did, what then failed in the air brakes to allow the train to roll on its own. There are many odd things in the story but the crew being off the train actually isn’t necessarily one of them. I am presuming that, like in the US, it was a two person crew (engineer & conductor) and that they had training and experience of an equal level to what is required in the US.

50 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 8:58:03am

re: #49 William Barnett-Lewis

The crew was off the train for mandatory rest time. The investigation is going to center on if they properly parked the train and if they did, what then failed in the air brakes to allow the train to roll on its own. There are many odd things in the story but the crew being off the train actually isn’t necessarily one of them. I am presuming that, like in the US, it was a two person crew (engineer & conductor) and that they had training and experience of an equal level to what is required in the US.

That’s a fair assumption, since the US and Canada keep their rail regulations largely harmonized in order to facilitate commerce.

51 Gus  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 8:58:24am
52 efuseakay  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 9:00:53am

re: #46 darthstar

Soon, it will be a reality. I’m holding out for Rollerball myself, but…
Image: MV5BMjE3NjU0MjA5Nl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMDk2ODMyMQ@@._V1_SY317_CR4,0,214,317_.jpg

Or Running Man!

53 jaunte  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 9:01:46am
54 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 9:03:13am

re: #48 A Mom Anon

Sigh. But noooo, we can haz no money for infrastructure improvements to create jobs. How long before something like that happens here? I hope Canada takes lessons from this, we sure as hell don’t seem to anymore.

We can’t spend money on infrastructure until we have welfare, immigration, drugs and women under control.

We have to get the house in order before we can work on the roads, rails and bridges!

//

55 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 9:04:16am

Seems there are a lot of people who are more concerned with the state of Heaven than life on Earth.

56 jaunte  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 9:04:26am

All rooms complete with carpet.

57 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 9:06:02am

re: #56 jaunte

All rooms complete with carpet.

UGH! hubby cleaned carpets this weekend.

We keep talking about laminate …

Can’t afford it right now, because we have 3 dogs to feed and water. If we didn’t have the dogs, we wouldn’t need the laminate.

It’s a conundrum.

58 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 9:08:54am

re: #36 Dark_Falcon

Actually, yes, I should read more carefully. However, it doesn’t matter if the crude comes from ND or Alberta—the damage is done, and politicians and producers will jump on this as more “evidence” to build Keystone which is the real point. Except for that report, no others I’ve seen have actually mentioned the origination point of the crude.

Here’s more on the disaster: theglobeandmail.com

and here: montrealgazette.com

59 jaunte  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 9:10:49am

re: #57 FemNaziBitch

I can tell you from my experience that dogs’ claws make VERY LOUD CLICKING NOISES on laminate that will tend to drive you crazy.

60 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 9:12:01am

re: #45 jaunte

I was trying to find some information yesterday about increased rail freight in the past few years, thinking that the increase in North American oil & gas production has got to be putting some additional pressure on our rail infrastructure; one statistic I found was that there was an approximate 45% increase in crude oil rail transport in 2012. That’s a lot of added weight/wear & tear on the rails, roadbeds and bridges.

It does not look like that was the cause of this derailment. Further, we don’t know the state of that specific line at the time. As a native of the Chicago area, I need to point out that general details about the area’s state of repair only go so far. Some lines are often in better condition than others. This is especially true in the US and Canada, where more than one company may own railways within a city or town.

61 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 9:14:53am

re: #58 Justanotherhuman

Actually, yes, I should read more carefully. However, it doesn’t matter if the crude comes from ND or Alberta—the damage is done, and politicians and producers will jump on this as more “evidence” to build Keystone which is the real point. Except for that report, no others I’ve seen have actually mentioned the origination point of the crude.

Here’s more on the disaster: theglobeandmail.com

and here: montrealgazette.com

I’d heard that the train was carrying ‘lighter’ crude, which excludes the ‘heavy’ products of the tar sands.

‘Light’ vs. ‘heavy’ when talking about crude oil refers to the presence of impurities.

62 jaunte  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 9:16:29am

re: #60 Dark_Falcon

This one appears to be the result of operator error. The overall increase in crude oil rail freight may mean that the crews are working harder, but there isn’t any info out specifically on this accident.

63 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 9:18:09am

re: #62 jaunte

This one appears to be the result of operator error. The overall increase in crude oil rail freight may mean that the crews are working harder, but there isn’t any info out specifically on this accident.

Indeed. Also note that the operator was out for mandatory crew rest, so those rules are being observed for the most part.

64 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 9:21:25am

re: #59 jaunte

I can tell you from my experience that dogs’ claws make VERY LOUD CLICKING NOISES on laminate that will tend to drive you crazy.

I don’t know. The carpet get’s VERY DIRTY and we have allergies. AND IT SMELLS so much better when we clean carpets.

We keep the carpet cleaner ready to go, like the vacuum. Between cat hairballs, and grass eating dogs—I do spot cleaning weekly.

Hubby even cleaned the upholstered furniture on Friday. Even tho I keep covers on it, it still get’s filthy.

I think we should just cut their paws off … .

/:0

65 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 9:22:28am
66 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 9:22:36am

re: #61 Dark_Falcon

ND fracked oil is referred to as LTO, or “light tight oil”.

At any rate, we seem, as a species, to be sawing off the limb on which we are sitting.

67 jaunte  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 9:24:53am

re: #65 Charles Johnson

“It was only a flesh wound!”

68 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 9:26:51am

Latest from CNN: 5 dead and around 40 missing. The Quebec train crash is going to be worse than the plane crash at SFO, by a wide margin.

69 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 9:29:51am

The amazingly stupid world view of Glenn Greenwald:

70 twisty  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 9:30:25am

re: #65 Charles Johnson

It’s strange. You spend your childhood thinking adults are adult and professionals are professional, and then you become one and discover just how many of them are still children in larger bodies.

71 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 9:31:01am

re: #66 Justanotherhuman

ND fracked oil is referred to as LTO, or “light tight oil”.

At any rate, we seem, as a species, to be sawing off the limb on which we are sitting.

Thank you for the reminder. The thing to remember here is that ND oil fracking is order of magnitude less invasive than tar sands mining, and the resultant product requires far less preparation and has fewer byproducts.

Paradoxically, the lightness of the oil may have contributed to the magnitude of the disaster, though it is too soon to tell. But light crude is more volatile, and that’s worth noting today.

72 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 9:34:41am

Now we know that Greenwald is OK with some types of spying. But only if there’s evidence of “wrongdoing.” Wow. This is supposed to be the super-smart guy who judges everyone else?

Pure libertarian idiocy.

73 Gus  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 9:36:33am

re: #72 Charles Johnson

Now we know that Greenwald is OK with some types of spying. But only if there’s evidence of “wrongdoing.” Wow. This is supposed to be the super-smart guy who judges everyone else?

Pure libertarian idiocy.

So only spy on AQ AFTER an attack.

74 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 9:36:59am

re: #64 FemNaziBitch

Hubby even cleaned the upholstered furniture on Friday. Even tho I keep covers on it, it still get’s filthy.

I think we should just cut their paws off …

The pets,,, or the hubbys!?!?

75 jaunte  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 9:37:26am
“We’ll use the metadata to discover patterns of wrongdoing, without looking at any innocent metadata.”

— Mayor of Simpleton

76 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 9:37:28am

re: #71 Dark_Falcon

I don’t think the jury is back completely yet on fracking, but why are we still pursuing old carbon-based energy when we have the capacity to develop and use far less environmentally dangerous methods? You also might ask people whose wells and groundwater have been rendered toxic by the fracking process.

77 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 9:38:45am

Remember - to Greenwald even people like Anwar al-Awlaki are innocent and shouldn’t be spied upon. What’s his standard of “evidence?”

Obviously there’s no “evidence” sufficient to meet Greenwald’s standard.

78 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 9:39:57am

re: #70 twisty

It’s strange. You spend your childhood thinking adults are adult and professionals are professional, and then you become one and discover just how many of them are still children in larger bodies.

OMG! Don’t get me started.

LOL

Other’s here will beg you to do as well.

79 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 9:40:14am

re: #74 sattv4u2

Hubby even cleaned the upholstered furniture on Friday. Even tho I keep covers on it, it still get’s filthy.

I think we should just cut their paws off …

The pets,,, or the hubbys!?!?

hmmmm … .

80 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 9:40:26am

re: #72 Charles Johnson

Now we know that Greenwald is OK with some types of spying. But only if there’s evidence of “wrongdoing.” Wow. This is supposed to be the super-smart guy who judges everyone else?

Pure libertarian idiocy.

Not just libertarianism, though. There’s also the more ‘left’ anti-intelligence and defense mindset at work, too. Overall, I think the most accurate way of putting things is that Glenn Greenwald has a severe hostility to governmental authority.

81 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 9:40:35am

re: #76 Justanotherhuman

I don’t think the jury is back completely yet on fracking, but why are we still pursuing old carbon-based energy when we have the capacity to develop and use far less environmentally dangerous methods? You also might ask people whose wells and groundwater have been rendered toxic by the fracking process.

because Koch bros …

82 Gus  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 9:41:37am
83 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 9:41:53am

re: #80 Dark_Falcon

Not just libertarianism, though. There’s also the more ‘left’ anti-intelligence and defense mindset at work, too. Overall, I think the most accurate way of putting things is that Glenn Greenwald has a severe hostility to governmental authority.

I grew-up being indoctrinated to believe that the government was bad. I see more corruption in the private sector now and am not so brainwashed.

Private sector is NOT always the best choice for the economy.

84 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 9:42:52am

re: #80 Dark_Falcon

But isn’t that because Glennlandia considers himself to be the sole arbiter of “right and wrong”? The smartest guy on the planet, that’s GG. In his own mind.

85 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 9:43:04am

Still playing “find the file” with all my pics.

2 external hard drives—the cloud with iPhoto and Adobe and I can’t find a damn thing.

86 Targetpractice  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 9:45:14am

re: #77 Charles Johnson

Remember - to Greenwald even people like Anwar al-Awlaki are innocent and shouldn’t be spied upon. What’s his standard of “evidence?”

Obviously there’s no “evidence” sufficient to meet Greenwald’s standard.

It’s the sort of thinking that allows him to whine all the time, because nobody meets his standard of “guilt” so everybody is wrongly being monitored. The NSA could have been monitoring the 9/11 hijackers and Glenn would have shouted “They haven’t done anything! This is illegal!!!!”

87 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 9:49:51am

re: #84 Justanotherhuman

But isn’t that because Glennlandia considers himself to be the sole arbiter of “right and wrong”? The smartest guy on the planet, that’s GG. In his own mind.

A severely oversized ego often leads to contempt for the authority and rights of others. For an example see Trump, Donald.

88 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 9:50:47am

re: #86 Targetpractice

He would have argued that just because they overstayed their visas and only took specific pilot training (which showed they didn’t intend to land a plane) that they shouldn’t be deported. Suicide pilots are just all right w/Glennlandia.

89 Shockingly, Pathetically Low  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 9:57:22am

re: #85 FemNaziBitch

Still playing “find the file” with all my pics.

2 external hard drives—the cloud with iPhoto and Adobe and I can’t find a damn thing.

{{ggt}}

This is our life from now on for as long as civilization endures.

(Three external hard drives, handful of flash drives, another of SD cards, multiple devices with internal storage — good thing I don’t trust the cloud, I already have too many places to look. I try to move all my photos into iPhoto on my MBPro first thing, so at least I might have a chance of finding them again. That leaves everything that isn’t a photo.)

90 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 9:58:41am

re: #89 Shockingly, Pathetically Low

I try to move all my photos into iPhoto on my MBPro first thing, so at least I might have a chance of finding them again.

Us,,, we have shoeboxes FULL of photos!!! (and I know exactly where all the shoeboxes are!!! )

91 Kaessa  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 9:58:53am

re: #89 Shockingly, Pathetically Low

{{ggt}}

This is our life from now on for as long as civilization endures.

(Three external hard drives, handful of flash drives, another of SD cards, multiple devices with internal storage — good thing I don’t trust the cloud, I already have too many places to look. I try to move all my photos into iPhoto on my MBPro first thing, so at least I might have a chance of finding them again. That leaves everything that isn’t a photo.)

I have several copies of my photos in different places in the cloud, as well as backed up on my server. I only trust the cloud as a backup to my backup.

92 Joanne  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 10:00:26am

re: #64 FemNaziBitch

I don’t know. The carpet get’s VERY DIRTY and we have allergies. AND IT SMELLS so much better when we clean carpets.

We keep the carpet cleaner ready to go, like the vacuum. Between cat hairballs, and grass eating dogs—I do spot cleaning weekly.

Hubby even cleaned the upholstered furniture on Friday. Even tho I keep covers on it, it still get’s filthy.

I think we should just cut their paws off … .

/:0

I have seven dogs and both hardwood and floors. Dogs nails making noise are only an issue if you don’t clip them on a regular basis. But carpets and dogs just don’t mix. And since I have allergies, what remaining carpet we have is all being transitioned to wood. Wood is so much easier to care for.

We also went to leather for all our furniture. Just wipe and go.

Yeah, our lives revolve around our hairy kids. :-)

93 Shockingly, Pathetically Low  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 10:03:50am

re: #91 Kaessa

I have photos on hard drive, external hard drive and SD card. Multiple copies. Plus a drawer with some pre-digital items.

94 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 10:08:28am

re: #91 Kaessa

I have several copies of my photos in different places in the cloud, as well as backed up on my server. I only trust the cloud as a backup to my backup.

But how do you find the one you want when you want it?

95 Shockingly, Pathetically Low  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 10:08:40am

re: #64 FemNaziBitch

I don’t know. The carpet get’s VERY DIRTY and we have allergies. AND IT SMELLS so much better when we clean carpets.

We keep the carpet cleaner ready to go, like the vacuum. Between cat hairballs, and grass eating dogs—I do spot cleaning weekly.

Hubby even cleaned the upholstered furniture on Friday. Even tho I keep covers on it, it still get’s filthy.

I think we should just cut their paws off … .

/:0

Get isolation suits and train the dogs to wear them in the house. Possibly the same for the spouse.

96 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 10:08:59am

re: #92 Joanne

I have seven dogs and both hardwood and floors. Dogs nails making noise are only an issue if you don’t clip them on a regular basis. But carpets and dogs just don’t mix. And since I have allergies, what remaining carpet we have is all being transitioned to wood. Wood is so much easier to care for.

We also went to leather for all our furniture. Just wipe and go.

Yeah, our lives revolve around our hairy kids. :-)

Leather doesn’t work because the cat has his claws. I have one ruined chair to show for it.

97 GeneJockey  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 10:09:29am

Our house has hardwood floors, and the doggies all clicka-clicka-clicka when they walk, but you get used to it. And it often tells you something. For example, this morning my wife, having gotten up early, went back for a bit more sleep. The 3 dogs followed her. Sometime soon, I’ll hear the 48 tapping toenails telling me that she’s up and the dogs are ready for a walk.

They also telegraph the 18 year old Eskie’s (American Eskimo Miniature) senior moments. She has a tendency to forget why she’s walking down the hall, while she’s walking down the hall:

ta-tap ta-tap ta-tap…….ta-tap…………ta-tap ta-tap ta-tap ta-tap……….ta-tap……………ta-tap ta-tap……………………ta-tap ta-tap ta-tap ta-tap ta-tap ta-tap………….ta-tap

(It’s a long hallway)

98 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 10:11:30am

re: #97 GeneJockey

Our house has hardwood floors, and the doggies all clicka-clicka-clicka when they walk, but you get used to it. And it often tells you something. For example, this morning my wife, having gotten up early, went back for a bit more sleep. The 3 dogs followed her. Sometime soon, I’ll hear the 48 tapping toenails telling me that she’s up and the dogs are ready for a walk.

They also telegraph the 18 year old Eskie’s (American Eskimo Miniature) senior moments. She has a tendency to forget why she’s walking down the hall, while she’s walking down the hall:

ta-tap ta-tap ta-tap…….ta-tap…………ta-tap ta-tap ta-tap ta-tap……….ta-tap……………ta-tap ta-tap……………………ta-tap ta-tap ta-tap ta-tap ta-tap ta-tap………….ta-tap

(It’s a long hallway)

we had hardwood in an old house of ours. Cat played hockey with golf balls on it at night. No matter how well we hid the golf balls.

WE’d hear them ricochet off the base molding at 2 am.

99 Shockingly, Pathetically Low  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 10:12:03am

re: #94 FemNaziBitch

But how do you find the one you want when you want it?

In iPhoto, I keep them in albums sorted by when and where I took them (e.g. trip to Alaska, 2012). I find I can find them more easily that way than if I threw, say, all the Alaska photos or flower photos into one big pile.

100 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 10:13:32am

re: #99 Shockingly, Pathetically Low

In iPhoto, I keep them in albums sorted by when and where I took them (e.g. trip to Alaska, 2012). I find I can find them more easily that way than if I threw, say, all the Alaska photos or flower photos into one big pile.

My file names are all my own code. So, in theory, I should be able to find them by filename, but the search protocols don’t cooperate.

Maybe I need to relearn the parameters for searching.

101 Shockingly, Pathetically Low  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 10:13:49am

re: #98 FemNaziBitch

we had hardwood in an old house of ours. Cat played hockey with golf balls on it at night. No matter how well we hid the golf balls.

WE’d hear them ricochet off the base molding at 2 am.

Two words: tennis balls.

102 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 10:13:56am

re: #47 FemNaziBitch

I’m not sure of the status of of the RR infrastructure. That would be interesting research —if I had the time.

It’s very crappy in places. A rail bridge collapse and derailment happened in southern NJ near Philly late last year. The bridge itself dated from the 1870s if I recall.

thinkprogress.org

103 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 10:17:15am

re: #101 Shockingly, Pathetically Low

Two words: tennis balls.

Cat Overlord would magic-up golf balls.

104 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 10:18:26am

re: #74 sattv4u2

Hubby even cleaned the upholstered furniture on Friday. Even tho I keep covers on it, it still get’s filthy.

I think we should just cut their paws off …

The pets,,, or the hubbys!?!?

19 year old son has something to do with it as well. …

105 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 10:18:57am

re: #102 Feline Fearless Leader

Some of the small rail bridges over streets in Chicago (mostly on the UP/North Metra passenger rail line) are 100 years old, but those bridges are currently being replaced. The problem is that they have had to cut down trees along the embankments in most cases to make it work, to the intense annoyance of my father and myself, both of whom would have preferred that commuters wait an extra 10 minutes to cutting down trees.

106 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 10:19:32am

$450 last month for sick dog and another’s annual check-up and shots.

have two more annuals and 2 teeth cleanings

then the cat

then we start all over again.

107 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 10:20:19am

re: #98 FemNaziBitch

we had hardwood in an old house of ours. Cat played hockey with golf balls on it at night. No matter how well we hid the golf balls.

WE’d hear them ricochet off the base molding at 2 am.

The younger cat here discovered cat golf when I dug out a few plastic practice golf balls from under some furniture. The kitchen was a favored spot due to the nice “dinnnng” sound when he shot the ball off the stove’s pan drawer.

108 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 10:20:32am

re: #105 Dark_Falcon

Some of the small rail bridges over streets in Chicago (mostly on the UP/North Metra passenger rail line) are 100 years old, but those bridges are currently being replaced. The problem is that they have had to cut down trees along the embankments in most cases to make it work, to the intense annoyance of my father and myself, both of whom would have preferred that commuters wait an extra 10 minutes to cutting down trees.

Illinois is getting the funding (or using the funding) and IIRC, we are at the top of the list of States taking care of their infrastructure.

Some time ago I did some research and posted about it.

I decided I liked having a POTUS from the state in which I live.

109 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 10:22:18am

re: #105 Dark_Falcon

Some of the small rail bridges over streets in Chicago (mostly on the UP/North Metra passenger rail line) are 100 years old, but those bridges are currently being replaced. The problem is that they have had to cut down trees along the embankments in most cases to make it work, to the intense annoyance of my father and myself, both of whom would have preferred that commuters wait an extra 10 minutes to cutting down trees.

Age doesn’t by default make a bridge “bad”. Assuming it’s properly maintained they can last a very very long time.

This particular bridge has triggered two derailments in the past four years. And it is being replaced at this point since Conrail said the repair costs were so close to replacement costs that they might as well put in a new movable bridge.

110 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 10:23:45am

re: #108 FemNaziBitch

Illinois is getting the funding (or using the funding) and IIRC, we are at the top of the list of States taking care of their infrastructure.

Some time ago I did some research and posted about it.

I decided I liked having a POTUS from the state in which I live.

It’s good to live in the king’s castle, sometimes. :)

111 Kaessa  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 10:23:56am

re: #93 Shockingly, Pathetically Low

I have photos on hard drive, external hard drive and SD card. Multiple copies. Plus a drawer with some pre-digital items.

Always good to have an off-site backup. What if your house burns down or someone breaks in and steals your stuff?

Yes, I worry about stuff like that.

112 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 10:25:04am

re: #111 Kaessa

Always good to have an off-site backup. What if your house burns down or someone breaks in and steals your stuff?

Yes, I worry about stuff like that.

All my stuff is backed-up on an external hard drive and the CLOUD and I still can’t find it.

LOL

113 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 10:25:23am

nap time

Have a great day all!

114 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 10:27:06am

re: #110 Dark_Falcon

It’s good to live in the king’s castle, sometimes. :)

To be clear, this line wasn’t intended as a shot at Barack Obama.

115 Kaessa  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 10:27:36am

re: #112 FemNaziBitch

All my stuff is backed-up on an external hard drive and the CLOUD and I still can’t find it.

LOL

LOL… I never said I could FIND it. ;)

116 bratwurst  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 10:29:00am
117 Targetpractice  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 10:30:30am

re: #116 bratwurst

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People of his own state don’t want him to run for reelection and he’s considering another presidential run?

Newsflash Goodhair: You’re not Dubya.

118 darthstar  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 10:36:42am
119 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 10:40:01am

re: #118 darthstar

Nancy, thy name is dishonesty.

BBL

120 Shockingly, Pathetically Low  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 10:41:49am

re: #111 Kaessa

Always good to have an off-site backup. What if your house burns down or someone breaks in and steals your stuff?

Yes, I worry about stuff like that.

Me too. But my old off-site solution just stopped being viable, and I don’t have a new one just yet. With luck, the fires will hold off for a while.

121 Shockingly, Pathetically Low  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 10:43:03am

re: #110 Dark_Falcon

It’s good to live in the king’s castle, sometimes. :)

Where I come from we say it’s good to live on the road that leads to the mayor’s home.

122 darthstar  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 10:43:51am
123 Shockingly, Pathetically Low  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 10:47:11am

re: #118 darthstar

Water flambé is more likely, though.

124 darthstar  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 10:48:08am

Cool…never heard of this before…fortunately, we don’t get many flies where we live, but apparently the pennies and water reflect enough light that flies are driven away by the prism effect.

Image: 945689_10152949488375405_777820482_n.jpg

125 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 10:51:19am

re: #124 darthstar

Water in plastic bags has been used in many other places. It does work.

126 jaunte  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 10:53:53am

Who could have predicted…

“…The EMC Insurance Cos. insures 85 percent to 90 percent of all Kansas school districts and has refused to renew coverage for schools that permit teachers and custodians to carry concealed firearms on their campuses under the new law, which took effect July 1. It’s not a political decision, but a financial one based on the riskier climate it estimates would be created, the insurer said.”
usatoday.com

127 ProTARDISLiberal  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 10:58:43am

Any more news about the Asiana Flight 214 crash?

Wikipedia’s dryness in tone can still cause sad.

Xinhua stated that 70 students and teachers traveling to the United States for a summer camp were among the Chinese passengers. According to Reuters, “local authorities” stated that 30 of the students and teachers were from Shanxi and the others were from Zhejiang. The provincial education department of Shanxi said that one teacher received minor injuries. The two deceased passengers, 16-year-old girls, were students at Jiangshan Middle School in Zhejiang. The other students survived the crash.

:(

128 bratwurst  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 11:02:24am

re: #123 Shockingly, Pathetically Low

Water flambé is more likely, though.

Gasland Part II premieres on HBO tomorrow night! Can’t wait to be told that flammable drinking water is not REALLY as bad as it seems by industry boosters.

129 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 11:05:32am

re: #119 Dark_Falcon

Nancy, thy name is dishonesty.

BBL

Nancy is not dishonest. I live very near fracking country and the water looks every bit as nasty as in the photo except, of course, when it catches fire coming out of the tap.
Water also looks like that in regular coal mining country.

130 jaunte  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 11:06:08am
131 Targetpractice  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 11:06:39am

re: #126 jaunte

Who could have predicted…

What, how can that be? Guns are supposed to make places safer, not more dangerous!!!

132 jaunte  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 11:07:37am

re: #131 Targetpractice

It’s probably not a problem that charter schools can solve.

133 jaunte  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 11:15:02am

I missed this the first time around.

“…On September 23, 2008, Dorothy, a female chimpanzee in her late 40s, died of congestive heart failure. A maternal and beloved figure, Dorothy spent eight years at Cameroon’s Sanaga-Yong Chimpanzee Rescue Center, which houses and rehabilitates chimps victimized by habitat loss and the illegal African bushmeat trade.

After a hunter killed her mother, Dorothy was sold as a “mascot” to an amusement park in Cameroon. For the next 25 years, she was tethered to the ground by a chain around her neck, taunted, teased, and taught to drink beer and smoke cigarettes for sport. In May 2000, Dorothy—obese from poor diet and lack of exercise—was rescued and relocated along with ten other primates. As her health improved, her deep kindness surfaced. She mothered an orphaned chimp named Bouboule and became a close friend to many others, including Jacky, the group’s alpha male, and Nama, another amusement-park refugee.

Szczupider, who had been a volunteer at the center, told me: “Her presence, and loss, was palpable, and resonated throughout the group. The management at Sanaga-Yong opted to let Dorothy’s chimpanzee family witness her burial, so that perhaps they would understand, in their own capacity, that Dorothy would not return. Some chimps displayed aggression while others barked in frustration, but perhaps the most stunning reaction was a recurring, almost tangible silence. If one knows chimpanzees, then one knows that [they] are not [usually] silent creatures.”
huffingtonpost.com

134 A Mom Anon  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 11:16:09am

re: #119 Dark_Falcon

Sigh. Dark, my daughter and grandchildren live in an area where fracking has become quite common. They have to buy water because what comes out of their tap smells pretty much like chemical soup. It’s not clear either. It’s ruined the insides of 3 different washing machines and caused rashes on the kids if they sit in the tub for too long. She has to rinse the kids and herself off with rain water from a rain barrel outside when they get done bathing. This is a new thing, their water used to be actually quite good. It’s not a coincidence that the water turned nasty when the drilling companies came in to drill for NG. It’s not a lie.

135 darthstar  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 11:22:33am
136 Gus  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 11:23:22am
137 Political Atheist  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 11:23:37am

re: #134 A Mom Anon
That’s awful.
Has your daughter sent samples to a lab? Fighting this at all? I can suggest a pretty good lab I use for work. Maybe she can get a filtration system?

138 Gus  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 11:24:01am

re: #136 Gus

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Do note how “Big Pharaoh” considers this, “Impressive.”

139 Gus  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 11:24:32am

More stupidity from Egypt…

140 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 11:24:32am

re: #137 Political Atheist

That’s awful.
Has your daughter sent samples to a lab? Fighting this at all? I can suggest a pretty good lab I use for work. Maybe she can get a filtration system?

The frack water will demolish a filtration system’s filter in just days or weeks.

141 darthstar  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 11:25:35am

re: #140 Backwoods_Sleuth

The frack water will demolish a filtration system’s filter in just days or weeks.

Exactly, and they’re not exactly cheap to buy or install.

142 jaunte  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 11:26:38am

re: #136 Gus

So who would he prefer, Ted Cruz or Rand Paul?

143 Political Atheist  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 11:27:24am

re: #141 darthstar

Exactly, and they’re not exactly cheap to buy or install.

That’s why I led off with a lab or testing question. Dunno but hoping the company that did the fracking could be held responsible.

144 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 11:28:11am

re: #143 Political Atheist

That’s why I led off with a lab or testing question. Dunno but hoping the company that did the fracking could be held responsible.

Lots of folks paid for the testing.
Not one company has been held responsible yet.

145 Interesting Times  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 11:32:31am

re: #144 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lots of folks paid for the testing.
Not one company has been held responsible yet.

And some companies, like Texas driller Range Resources, are just plain evil and vindictive (seriously, read this. It’s nightmarish, and yet another reason for sane people to leave Texas as soon as possible if it remains in the grips of the Talibangelical fossil fool nutjobs)

146 darthstar  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 11:34:45am

re: #143 Political Atheist

That’s why I led off with a lab or testing question. Dunno but hoping the company that did the fracking could be held responsible.

Sadly, the companies doing this know they can tie any claims up in court for years.

147 Gus  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 11:35:28am
148 Political Atheist  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 11:37:46am

re: #145 Interesting Times

And some companies, like Texas driller Range Resources, are just plain evil and vindictive (seriously, read this. It’s nightmarish, and yet another reason for sane people to leave Texas as soon as possible if it remains in the grips of the Talibangelical fossil fool nutjobs)

Thanks for the link, I had missed that Page. BBIAB after I read it all through.

149 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 11:40:59am

And fracking isn’t the only thing.
On October 11, 2000, a Massey Energy coal slurry containment pond broke through to an abandoned underground mine in Martin County, Ky., sending 306 million gallons of crap into Wolf Creek and Coldwater Fork, tributaries of Tug Fork River, killing all aquatic life. It continued down Tug Fork River to Big Sandy and on to the Ohio River, where contaminants were measured at Cincinnati.
Massey was assessed an initial $5,600 fine, and later a $3 million fine and spent $46 million on cleanup efforts, but the devastating effects remain to this day
I was here when that happened and it was horrible.
Interesting factoid: US Secretary of Labor Elaine Chao, wife of Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), oversaw the Mine Safety and Health Administration at the time. Chao placed a McConnell staffer in charge of the MSHA investigation into the spill. Massey then contributed $100,000 to the National Republican Senatorial Committee.

150 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 11:43:57am

re: #145 Interesting Times

Just gave you an upding on your page. Thanks for paging that.

151 A Mom Anon  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 11:44:26am

re: #137 Political Atheist

She’s trying to move to another part of town where the water isn’t well water. This is right at the edge of Appalachia, she’s living on about 14K a year (plus what I can scrape together and send up when I can) with 3 kids. The owner of the home she’s renting now is letting the bank take it, so she kinda has no choice but to move somewhere else. The thing is, these fracking/NG companies bring in jobs, so if they were to get sued, on the off chance the poor people would win(hahahaha) then there go the only halfway decent jobs in the area. These fucking companies know that shit going in. The house she’s about to leave is literally falling apart, the roof leaks, the basement floods every time it rains, etc, etc. So in a way, the foreclosure is a blessing for her and the kids, since it’s not really their house. Her dad owns a slightly better house in a part of town with a better water supply, it’s just getting him off his ass to help her(long sad story involved there, suffice it to say he’s an asshole) get things right so she can get moved. I hate living 850 miles away.

152 darthstar  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 11:44:36am

FYI - for those of you on twitter who get blocked by insecure wingnuts like Kincannon or self absorbed attention junkies like Greenwald. When you see a conversation with a “protected” tweet, copy the reply into a comment here and click preview. You then can see the tweet (and reply to it via LGF tweet buttons).

153 Political Atheist  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 11:46:38am

re: #151 A Mom Anon

Such a sad situation all around. I wish her the best. May things really improve for her and the kids.

154 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 11:46:53am

And there’s the ever increasing earthquakes.
We’ve had the occasional earthquake before, but now they are becoming more and more common.

155 jaunte  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 11:46:54am

“…Snowden’s argument isn’t doing particularly well in the court of public opinion, which seems more inclined to the government’s view that Snowden is a fugitive from criminal justice and therefore subject to various authorities of law enforcement. Several supporters organized rallies on July 4 in cities around the US, but total turnout was around 3,000. The biggest rally, in Washington DC, weighed in at an estimated 400.
swampland.time.com

156 dragonath  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 11:48:52am

re: #134 A Mom Anon

This isn’t the first time I’ve heard about bad tap water in Georgia. It sounds like hyperbole to people far away from fracking areas, but the data is out there.

157 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 11:49:09am

re: #155 jaunte

Before he did anything he should have contacted an attorney.

158 darthstar  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 11:49:39am
159 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 11:50:05am

For those interested, there’s a webstream of the trailer for appalshop’s documentary about the problems in Martin County, Ky.

Sludge

It’s not pretty…

160 jaunte  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 11:50:09am

re: #157 PhillyPretzel

He was probably advised by an attorney, but the attorney was working for Wikileaks.

161 Political Atheist  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 11:50:21am

re: #144 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lots of folks paid for the testing.
Not one company has been held responsible yet.

Truly jaw dropping wrong.

162 A Mom Anon  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 11:55:01am

re: #149 Backwoods_Sleuth

The whole of Appalachia and the Ohio Valley is full of this kind of corruption and shitty treatment of the residents. It’s so sad. I am from SE Ohio, about an hour away from Wheeling, W.VA, it’s such a beautiful place. But poverty, meth and heroin, and the lack of any decent paying jobs has truly devastated the area. There’s basically no middle class left, the factories are gone, most of the farms were abandoned when the factory work became the norm, and there is literally a whole generation of young people who cannot find work. I moved away in the early 1980’s just as the last of the factories found excuses to ship jobs overseas and shut down US operations. It is heartbreaking to see what’s happened there. I begged my daughter not to go back there as a teenager, but she wouldn’t listen, and now she’s stuck there with 3 kids aged 10-6. I’m no longer in a financial position to help her get out, now that she’s come to her senses and wants out. Ack. Like I said, heartbreaking.

163 A Mom Anon  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 11:57:40am

re: #156 dragonath

I was talking about Ohio, but I’m sure there are parts of rural GA where it’s like this too. My daughter is in SE Ohio. I’m in Metro Atlanta. We’re lucky out this way, our water supply is one of the cleanest in the SE USA.

164 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 11:59:12am

re: #162 A Mom Anon

I’m about 50 miles northwest of Huntington, WV.
It just pisses me off that the coal/gas companies get away with this crap.
Hell, I’m still majorly pissed off about the Upper Big Branch mine disaster in 2010, where 38 miners died because Massey Energy finds it more cost effective to pay fines rather than provide safe working conditions.

165 Stanley Sea  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 12:00:49pm

Thanks for sharing this Gus!

166 Gus  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 12:01:58pm

re: #165 Stanghazi

Thanks for sharing this Gus!

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YW

167 Gus  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 12:03:28pm

And, once again, just because…

168 jaunte  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 12:09:37pm

re: #167 Gus

Master of Ludicrous Overreach.

169 darthstar  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 12:11:26pm
170 wrenchwench  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 12:13:07pm

re: #167 Gus

And, once again, just because…

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171 A Mom Anon  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 12:13:48pm

re: #164 Backwoods_Sleuth

So we’re from the same general area then. Things have changed, but not in the last 30-40 yrs. In a lot of ways things are worse. Actually, my daughter is really much closer to Parkersburg than Wheeling, but yeah, I’m familiar with the area. Wayne National Forest is around there. My dad’s family is actually from the Hocking Hills area of Ohio. My mom is from Lancaster.

172 Joanne  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 12:14:27pm

re: #168 jaunte

Master of Ludicrous Overreach.

There’s a degree in that? /

173 Gus  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 12:14:38pm

re: #170 wrenchwench

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174 bratwurst  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 12:15:12pm

Let’s make a list of all of the OTHER well respected intellectuals who behave as petulantly as Glenn via social media.

1.

Hmm…ok…well…um…you start.

175 Gus  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 12:17:14pm

┌∩┐ ︵ヽ(☉‿☉)ﾉ︵ ┌∩┐

176 Interesting Times  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 12:18:37pm

re: #173 Gus

Remember the “you’d defend Obama if he raped a nun” attack on ABL? I thought Greenwald came up with it on his own, but it turned out it was in something he approvingly RT’ed. Imagine my dismay to learn that comment originally came from someone I follow :( (a Canadian, who usually posts sensible stuff, but appears stuck in batshit-cultist land as far as Greenwald goes)

177 wrenchwench  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 12:24:36pm

re: #176 Interesting Times

Remember the “you’d defend Obama if he raped a nun” attack on ABL? I thought Greenwald came up with it on his own, but it turned out it was in something he approvingly RT’ed. Imagine my dismay to learn that comment originally came from someone I follow :( (a Canadian, who usually posts sensible stuff, but appears stuck in batshit-cultist land as far as Greenwald goes)

Didn’t he RT it and then add something equally vile?

178 wrenchwench  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 12:32:30pm

Oh, hai.

179 A Mom Anon  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 12:34:32pm

re: #178 wrenchwench

Oh yipes. Was it NM where the hail was so heavy and thick it looked like snow on the ground last week? Stay safe.

180 darthstar  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 12:39:04pm
181 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 12:41:19pm

Why do plumbing problems always happen on Sunday?

182 wrenchwench  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 12:41:52pm

re: #179 A Mom Anon

Oh yipes. Was it NM where the hail was so heavy and thick it looked like snow on the ground last week? Stay safe.

It was NM, but no where near me. We’re lucky to get a trickle of rain each day since the 4th. Right now it’s raining on top of the big fire near here, but we’re not getting any.

183 BigPapa  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 12:42:23pm

Didn’t Greenwald get busted for sock puppetry? I’ve only seen wingnut blogs for evidence.

184 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 12:44:06pm

re: #181 Charles Johnson

Why do plumbing problems always happen on Sunday?

Because plumbing is all Hail Satan!

185 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 12:52:34pm

re: #183 BigPapa

Didn’t Greenwald get busted for sock puppetry? I’ve only seen wingnut blogs for evidence.

Yeah, he was definitely using sock puppet accounts to praise himself and attack his enemies on right wing blogs. As far as I know he never tried to do it here, although he did attack me in extremely dishonest ways more than once. Among other things he accused me of wanting to use nuclear weapons against Middle Eastern countries, something I never said, thought, or advocated in any way. As a matter of fact, more than one person was banned from LGF for saying this kind of stupid shit.

At one point I just got fed up with his constant lying and started redirecting any referrals from links at his blog to a post that documented his sock puppetry. He stopped linking to me when I did that.

186 Weet  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 1:27:56pm

re: #180 darthstar

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That link and all of its links are well worth the read, including the one in the comment.

187 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 1:28:15pm

re: #129 Backwoods_Sleuth

Nancy is not dishonest. I live very near fracking country and the water looks every bit as nasty as in the photo except, of course, when it catches fire coming out of the tap.
Water also looks like that in regular coal mining country.

And my brother’s well water looks like that without fracking.

Has to do with the well running though some black shales.

188 Political Atheist  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 4:01:31pm

Whoa you guys see the CNN video of the crash?


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