Glenn Beck suspects something sinister in the Teresa Heinz Kerry hospitalization

“You’ve so violated our trust, I don’t know what’s real anymore!!!”
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She’s part of a distraction from the fact that Secretary of State John Kerry was on his boat while the military coup ousting the Muslim Brotherhood from power in Egypt was taking place.

Below, Glenn reveals the truth Barack Hussein Obama and his willing accomplices in the press don’t want you to know:

Yesterday, Teresa Heinz Kerry, wife of Secretary of State John Kerry, was rushed to this hospital after apparently suffering from some sort of seizure … but Glenn Beck isn’t buying it because he just doesn’t trust anything that the government says, which is why he suspects that the entire thing was orchestrated as a distraction from the “huge scandal” that Secretary Kerry was on his boat while a military coup took place in Egypt last week.

While it may be true that Heinz Kerry (or, as Beck called her, “Mrs. Ketchup”) did end up in the hospital, Beck “can’t give you any sympathy now because you’ve lied to us too many times” … just as when former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was hospitalized with a blood clot last year in an effort to cover-up Benghazi.

Money quote:

These things happen. People go to the hospital…for no reason…

…except to get them out of things.

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1 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 12:49:07pm
While it may be true that Heinz Kerry (or, as Beck called her, “Mrs. Ketchup”)

Stay classy, Beck

2 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 12:49:20pm

The Man in the Moon told him…

3 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 12:51:42pm

There is a conspiracy behind every ER visit!

4 jaunte  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 12:52:45pm

As if Kerry being in an office building would have given him magical powers to intervene in Egypt.

5 calochortus  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 12:53:21pm

re: #4 jaunte

As if Kerry being in an office building would have given him magical powers to intervene in Egypt.

It wouldn’t? I’m so disappointed.

6 GeneJockey  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 12:53:47pm
These things happen. People go to the hospital…for no reason…

…except to get them out of things.

Right. Last week, my wife went to the hospital to get out of doing dishes for 6 weeks. Sure, the doctor said her wrist was broken, but those could have been anyone’s X-rays.

BTW, if he really said, “You’ve so violated our trust, I don’t know what’s real anymore!!!”, all I can think is, “Anymore?”

7 AntonSirius  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 12:53:50pm

Sorry, d00d, but Greenwald is the only Glenn that matters now. No matter how ridiculous and vicious your nonsense gets, you’re still shouting up from the bottom of history’s dustbin.

8 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 12:54:38pm

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Man in the Moon told him…

Andy Kaufman?

Holy crap, you mean he really did fake his own death and now he’s advising Glenn Beck?!

//

9 b.d.  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 12:54:41pm

OK, just playing along here for one minute. Kerry would have stopped the change of power if he was toiling away in his office? He is a lot more powerful than I give him credit for.

10 Tigger2  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 12:54:54pm

I’m suspicious on whether Beck has two brain cells to rub together.

11 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 12:55:24pm

re: #9 b.d.

But wouldn’t Beck have wanted the change of power, getting rid of the Muslim Brotherhood, who have infested the WH, etc. ??

/

12 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 12:55:46pm

re: #8 Dr Lizardo

Andy Kaufman?

Holy crap, you mean he really did fake his own death and now he’s advising Glenn Beck?!

//

I can just see his eyes!

Kaufman feeding Beck BS the enjoying the show.

13 The Mountain That Blogs  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 12:56:01pm

re: #3 FemNaziBitch

There is a conspiracy behind every ER visit!

I can confirm this.

14 GeneJockey  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 12:56:18pm

re: #8 Dr Lizardo

Andy Kaufman?

Holy crap, you mean he really did fake his own death and now he’s advising Glenn Beck?!

//

Well, his schtick career is like a lot of Kaufman’s stuff - not really funny, and goes on too long.
//

15 darthstar  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 12:56:36pm
16 Kragar  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 12:56:51pm

WND: George Soros Behind Muslim Brotherhood and Muslim Brotherhood Opposition

In 2011, WorldNetDaily reporter Aaron Klein warned that George Soros, by way of the International Crisis Group ICG (Soros is a member of its executive committee), aided the Muslim Brotherhood and even authored several articles alleging that Soros was helping the Muslim Brotherhood and other Islamist groups.

But now that the Muslim Brotherhood was thrown out of power in Egypt, Klein is out with a new “exposé” on Soros’ alleged connections to their opponents.

Klein even cites the International Crisis Group as a way to link Soros to the new government…the same group which Klein claimed tied Soros to the Muslim Brotherhood.

Essentially, Soros and the ICG had a hand both in the Muslim Brotherhood’s rise to power and also its ouster.

SOROS!

17 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 12:57:06pm

So, the Muslim Brotherhood led government of Egypt was pushed out by the Egyption military and the PBO WH which is made up almost totally of MB spies and…

My head’s buzzing.

18 GeneJockey  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 12:57:40pm

re: #9 b.d.

OK, just playing along here for one minute. Kerry would have stopped the change of power if he was toiling away in his office? He is a lot more powerful than I give him credit for.

Of course! Just like Obama’s presence in the Situation Room would have magically stopped BENGHAZIIIII!!!!!

19 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 12:58:12pm

I’ll bet Beck gets all the good weed, too. Not a good thing when you’re on prescribed medications, though.

20 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 12:58:15pm

re: #16 Kragar

Soros overthrowing Soros cannot Stand!!

21 b.d.  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 12:58:19pm

Could’ve been worse, Imagine the stories we would hear if Susan Rice was SoS?

22 GeneJockey  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 12:58:32pm
23 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 12:59:54pm

re: #16 Kragar

WND: George Soros Behind Muslim Brotherhood and Muslim Brotherhood Opposition

SOROS!

Just a sec…

*toketokecough*

Nope, still doesn’t make sense.

24 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:00:17pm

re: #21 b.d.

I’ll bet that Rice wouldn’t have been shoe shopping if people in NOLA were drowning, though.

25 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:00:17pm
Chicago erupted in paroxysms of violence over the Fourth of July weekend when 72 people were shot over the course of four days, according to Raw Story. At least 64 of the shootings reportedly took place by Saturday, and many appear to have been the result of gang violence.
26 b.d.  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:00:47pm

re: #20 Bulworth

Soros overthrowing Soros cannot Stand!!

Soros is out to get Soros and just because Soros is Soros we are supposed to think that he is not after himself.

27 darthstar  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:00:50pm

Oh, and fuck you Glenn Beck.

28 Interesting Times  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:01:06pm

Glenn Beck isn’t crazy. He’s nothing but an extremely successful (and sociopathic) con man:

Forbes Profile Reveals Glenn Beck Is Highest-Paid Pundit This Year At $80 Million

Gullibility + mean-spirited outlook + desire to be told what you want to hear = his audience, willing to keep on paying to swallow his toxic bile.

29 Tigger2  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:02:08pm

re: #28 Interesting Times

Glenn Beck isn’t crazy. He’s nothing but an extremely successful (and sociopathic) con man:

Forbes Profile Reveals Glenn Beck Is Highest-Paid Pundit This Year At $80 Million

Gullibility + mean-spirited outlook + desire to be told what you want to hear = his audience, willing to keep on paying to swallow his toxic bile.

Yep Con men can make a lot of money, there are many stupid people out there.

Just look at the majority of the Republican base they have been getting conned for years into voting against their best interest..

30 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:02:58pm

re: #28 Interesting Times

Glenn Beck isn’t crazy. He’s nothing but an extremely successful (and sociopathic) con man:

Forbes Profile Reveals Glenn Beck Is Highest-Paid Pundit This Year At $80 Million

Gullibility + mean-spirited outlook + desire to be told what you want to hear = his audience, willing to keep on paying to swallow his toxic bile.

and the people who pay him also vote…
sigh…

31 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:04:15pm

re: #24 Justanotherhuman

I’ll bet that Rice wouldn’t have been shoe shopping if people in NOLA were drowning, though.

Condi was shoe shopping. Susan is a different Rice.

32 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:04:20pm

re: #25 FemNaziBitch

Ugh. So sad.

33 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:04:40pm

re: #28 Interesting Times

Glenn Beck isn’t crazy. He’s nothing but an extremely successful (and sociopathic) con man:

Forbes Profile Reveals Glenn Beck Is Highest-Paid Pundit This Year At $80 Million

Gullibility + mean-spirited outlook + desire to be told what you want to hear = his audience, willing to keep on paying to swallow his toxic bile.

GOLD!!!

no wait —SILVER!!!

34 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:05:23pm

re: #32 Bulworth

Ugh. So sad.

Sad because of the gun laws in Chicago —that aren’t enforced . . .

35 Varek Raith  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:06:21pm

Glenn Beck; More paranoid than an Obsidian Order agent in a room full of Tal Shiar.

36 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:06:31pm

re: #33 FemNaziBitch

GOLD!!!

no wait —SILVER!!!

gold-pressed latinum!!!!

37 darthstar  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:07:33pm
38 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:07:47pm

re: #35 Varek Raith

Glenn Beck; More paranoid than an Obsidian Order agent in a room full of Tal Shiar.

NERD!

//

39 GeneJockey  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:08:29pm

re: #36 Backwoods_Sleuth

gold-pressed latinum!!!!

What is the Third Rule Of Acquisition?

40 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:09:27pm

re: #39 GeneJockey

What is the Third Rule Of Acquisition?

Never spend more for an acquisition than you have to.

41 EdDantes  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:11:02pm

It is a sad state of affairs when we distrust what the government says. They are looking out for our well-being.

42 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:11:24pm
43 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:12:30pm

re: #41 EdDantes

It is a sad state of affairs when we distrust what the government says. They are looking out for our well-being.

They are looking out for their own well-being. That is why we have checks and balances and regular elections.

44 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:13:54pm

re: #25 FemNaziBitch

It also wouldn’t have anything to do with the fact that the Black unemployment rate in Chicago has hovered around 20% for a long time, would it? Black unemployment nationwide averages 2x as high as White: bls.gov with Black youth 16-19 at 43.6 in June of this year, compared to 20.4 for White youth.

45 darthstar  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:14:12pm
46 darthstar  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:14:46pm
47 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:15:12pm

re: #31 FemNaziBitch

Exactly. I meant, that Rice, i.e., Susan.

48 GeneJockey  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:15:13pm

re: #41 EdDantes

It is a sad state of affairs when we distrust what the government says. They are looking out for our well-being.

This comes perilously close to something I’ve heard said: “Sure, there’s no evidence that [insert outrageous accusation] is true, but what does it say about them that we’d even think such a thing is possible?”

49 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:15:24pm

re: #40 Backwoods_Sleuth

Never spend more for an acquisition than you have to.

The first Rule of Acquisition is that you don’t talk about the Rules of Acquisition.

Hold on, I’m mixing my memes again…

50 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:15:39pm

re: #45 darthstar

“Why did the defendant get out of his vehicle and chase my son?”

In Florida, this is how you “stand your ground”…

51 engineer cat  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:16:15pm

re: #42 FemNaziBitch

“You Can’t Buy Fate!”

most of the things i really really want right now can’t be bought for money, e.g.

- play jazz saxophone well enuf to drop in on any jam
- speak spanish with some reasonable degree of competence

not sure what i’d do with 80 mil a year…

52 GeneJockey  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:16:48pm

re: #50 Sol Berdinowitz

In Florida, this is how you “stand your ground”…

By getting in someone’s face, then shooting them.

53 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:17:29pm

re: #51 engineer cat

most of the things i really really want right now can’t be bought for money, e.g.

- play jazz saxophone well enuf to drop in on any jam
- speak spanish with some reasonable degree of competence

not sure what i’d do with 80 mil a year…

pretty sure I could help ya with that…

54 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:17:54pm

re: #52 GeneJockey

By getting in someone’s face, then shooting them.

That is how this law has come to be interpreted.

55 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:18:10pm

re: #44 Justanotherhuman

It also wouldn’t have anything to do with the fact that the Black unemployment rate in Chicago has hovered around 20% for a long time, would it? Black unemployment nationwide averages 2x as high as White: bls.gov with Black youth 16-19 at 43.6 in June of this year, compared to 20.4 for White youth.

Remember, something like 80% of black men have been disenfranchised in Chicago -either by being convicted of a felony. Therefore, ineligible for owning a firearm, legally.

The City That Works —my ass.

56 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:18:48pm

re: #48 GeneJockey

This comes perilously close to something I’ve heard said: “Sure, there’s no evidence that [insert outrageous accusation] is true, but what does it say about them that we’d even think such a thing is possible?”

We understand human nature?

57 engineer cat  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:18:59pm

re: #53 Backwoods_Sleuth

pretty sure I could help ya with that…

seriously, what would you spend it on?

58 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:19:23pm

re: #57 engineer cat

seriously, what would you spend it on?

The next generation.

59 Weet  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:23:00pm
60 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:23:18pm
61 Ian G.  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:23:21pm

re: #28 Interesting Times

Glenn Beck isn’t crazy. He’s nothing but an extremely successful (and sociopathic) con man:

Forbes Profile Reveals Glenn Beck Is Highest-Paid Pundit This Year At $80 Million

Gullibility + mean-spirited outlook + desire to be told what you want to hear = his audience, willing to keep on paying to swallow his toxic bile.

I wonder how many of the knuckleheads who listened to Beck and stuffed their life savings into GOLD! are now having second thoughts about him now that gold prices are in the toilet….

My guess is, not many. They’re probably sure that COMEX is a Soros front group that is rigging the prices to make them lose money. #unskewedgoldprices

62 Blue Point  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:23:30pm

Glenn Beck is living proof that you can not only sell shit, but make massive amounts of money from selling that shit. Shit.

63 allegro  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:24:29pm

re: #51 engineer cat

most of the things i really really want right now can’t be bought for money, e.g.

- play jazz saxophone well enuf to drop in on any jam
- speak spanish with some reasonable degree of competence

not sure what i’d do with 80 mil a year…

Hire a jazz saxaphone player and interpreter?

64 engineer cat  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:27:15pm

re: #63 allegro

Hire a jazz saxaphone player and interpreter?

heh

much more fun doin it yourself than watching other people do it… kinda like another common activity i could name…

65 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:27:47pm

Black Box Recovered in Fatal Quebec Oil Train Explosion bloomberg.com

66 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:29:44pm

re: #57 engineer cat

seriously, what would you spend it on?

Seriously, I would totally fund our regional Women’s Crisis Center (which supports women and children in leaving abusive situations) that had their funding cut a few years ago, fund our local food pantry, fund spay and neutering programs for dogs & cats as well as high dollar emergency vet care for people who can’t afford it, pay for my oldest son’s medical expenses (he needs a liver transplant amongst other serious health issues) because he lost his health insurance a few years ago due to reaching a lifetime cap on health insurance benefits, start up a manufacturing business I’ve been thinking about that will provide good paying jobs with benefits, send my grandkids and great-grandkids (and some of the really smart and creative neighbor kids) to college or tech school.

Probably get myself a new pickup truck…my ‘98 Ford Ranger is getting kinda tired.

Sock a chunk away for my twilight years.

Really, it sounds trite, but I’d be giving most of it away.

67 EdDantes  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:31:19pm

re: #48 GeneJockey

As much as I loved Bill Clinton as president only, Jimmy Carter and president Obama have held firm to their convictions and not compromised in the face of adverse economic and foreign policy crises.

68 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:31:38pm
69 EdDantes  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:32:27pm

re: #68 FemNaziBitch

Saw that. Yummers!

70 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:32:35pm

The meltdown continues.

71 EdDantes  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:32:44pm

Good night, all!

72 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:33:14pm

re: #66 Backwoods_Sleuth

Seriously, I would totally fund our regional Women’s Crisis Center (which supports women and children in leaving abusive situations) that had their funding cut a few years ago, fund our local food pantry, fund spay and neutering programs for dogs & cats as well as high dollar emergency vet care for people who can’t afford it, pay for my oldest son’s medical expenses (he needs a liver transplant amongst other serious health issues) because he lost his health insurance a few years ago due to reaching a lifetime cap on health insurance benefits, start up a manufacturing business I’ve been thinking about that will provide good paying jobs with benefits, send my grandkids and great-grandkids (and some of the really smart and creative neighbor kids) to college or tech school.

Probably get myself a new pickup truck…my ‘98 Ford Ranger is getting kinda tired.

Sock a chunk away for my twilight years.

Really, it sounds trite, but I’d be giving most of it away.

These are hypothetical, future great-grand kids?

We’re spending a few hundred on the ‘94 Ranger today.

Best wishes for your oldest son.

73 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:33:23pm

From Balloon Juice, rumors of mass voter fraud have been greatly exaggerated.

Actually no voter fraud using SSN’s of dead people occured in SC, despite wildly inflated claims of 900+ cases.

File under “shocking”.

75 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:36:48pm

re: #70 Charles Johnson

The meltdown continues.

Funny followup:

re: #71 EdDantes

Good night, all!

I’m pretty sure that’s a coincidence.

76 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:37:31pm

Whoa now: Osama Bin Laden Was Stopped for Speeding in Pakistan, Report Reveals.

“OK, Mr. Bin Laden, I’m going to let you off with a warning this time.”

77 Political Atheist  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:38:02pm

re: #59 Weet

Rock, meet hard place. Look on the face of it, by all practical standards it was a coup. Perhaps a popular one, maybe even for good reasons. But I don’t see a clause that says unless it’s a coup we like. Obama is in a damn tough spot, again. It’s gonna take some legal handsprings to say this is not a coup. I don’t think we should immediately cut aid either but the precedent here is pretty ugly. With or without GOP hyperbole.

78 engineer cat  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:38:20pm

re: #66 Backwoods_Sleuth

Really, it sounds trite, but I’d be giving most of it away

i don’t have kids altho i wanted to but that’s another story…

i can only think of how to spend maybe 5 million or so on myself - i mean to like retire, basically - anymore than that i’d have to figure out how i could give away in some beneficial manner

79 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:39:06pm

re: #72 wrenchwench

These are hypothetical, future great-grand kids?

We’re spending a few hundred on the ‘94 Ranger today.

Best wishes for your oldest son.

Nope…second great-grandson is due on Labor Day (the joys of blended families!)

I also have a ‘94 Ranger…it’s stuck in second gear so it’s sitting under the cherry trees with weeds growing in the truck bed.

Oldest son is making weekly trips from Kankakee to Chicago for monitoring his heart and other testing while he awaits word on a possible liver. How it all will get paid for, we have no idea… The boy never drank, but has had health problems since the day he was born. But he’s worked from the time he was 16 until a massive heart attack and the liver problem forced him to retire in his mid 40s. Sometimes life really sucks.

80 engineer cat  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:40:30pm

re: #68 FemNaziBitch

The Most Unhealthy Meal in America, Revealed

the republican party

bad food for your brain

81 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:40:34pm

re: #70 Charles Johnson

The meltdown continues.

And he still can’t spell…

82 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:40:46pm
83 engineer cat  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:41:22pm

re: #70 Charles Johnson

The meltdown continues.

i lost track of what the argument was about a long time ago

84 abolitionist  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:41:30pm

re: #76 Charles Johnson

Whoa now: Osama Bin Laden Was Stopped for Speeding in Pakistan, Report Reveals.

“OK, Mr. Bin Laden, I’m going to let you off with a warning this time.”

Bet there was no GPS.

85 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:42:01pm

re: #76 Charles Johnson

Q: How’d OBL evade capture?

A: He wore a cowboy hat.

The independent commission’s assessment of Pakistan’s government is brutal. Among its findings:

—“The whole episode of the US assassination mission of May 2, 2011 and the Pakistan government’s response before, during and after appears in large part to be a story of complacency, ignorance, negligence, incompetence, irresponsibility and possibly worse at various levels inside and outside the government,” the report says starting on page 333.

—Dismantling the operations of both the CIA and Islamist extremist networks on Pakistani soil must be an “urgent national priority” (page 331).

—Civilian casualties from American drone strikes must be judged “deliberate and criminal” (page 328).

—The CIA stopped notifying Pakistan’s government of high-value extremist targets on its territory in 2005 (page 325).

—It calls the bin Laden raid “illegal” and a symptom of America’s “contemptuous disregard for Pakistan’s sovereignty, independence, and territorial integrity in the arrogant certainty of its unmatched military might” (page 305).

—But a more effective Pakistan government could have spared its people their “avoidable humiliation” (page 305).

—How did Pakistan’s intelligence services miss the presence of the world’s most wanted fugitive? “It was probably more a case of negligence, inefficiency and incompetence rather than complicity” (page 299).

Repeated entries note speculation that Pakistan abetted the raid with at least a wink-and-nod acceptance, but the commission found no evidence for that claim. On page 292, the report notes that Pakistan’s air defense radars, which might have picked up the Navy SEAL team helicopters, were in “rest” mode because it was “not economical” to have them on constantly.

86 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:42:57pm
87 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:43:42pm

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

And he still can’t spell…

And he haz a Page with Startling Information!!11!!
Derp…

88 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:43:48pm
89 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:44:13pm

re: #79 Backwoods_Sleuth

Nope…second great-grandson is due on Labor Day (the joys of blended families!)

I also have a ‘94 Ranger…it’s stuck in second gear so it’s sitting under the cherry trees with weeds growing in the truck bed.

Oldest son is making weekly trips from Kankakee to Chicago for monitoring his heart and other testing while he awaits word on a possible liver. How it all will get paid for, we have no idea… The boy never drank, but has had health problems since the day he was born. But he’s worked from the time he was 16 until a massive heart attack and the liver problem forced him to retire in his mid 40s. Sometimes life really sucks.

Congrats on the gg son!

Hugs to the Original son.

90 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:44:31pm

re: #87 Backwoods_Sleuth

And he haz a Page with Startling Information!!11!!
Derp…

I downdinged it because…shut up!

91 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:45:54pm

re: #83 engineer cat

i lost track of what the argument was about a long time ago

Whether Barack Obama is the worst president human being ever.

92 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:47:03pm

re: #90 Backwoods_Sleuth

I downdinged it because…shut up!

and second page he haz to downding!
It’s a Double Derp!

93 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:47:07pm

nap time

94 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:54:17pm

It always gets me a little bit when news announcers talk about the fact that so many people survived the SFO crash as “miraculous.”

It was a plane crash. I’ve never understood how anything about a plane crash can be called miraculous. They survived because there are a lot of safety systems and well-trained people who did everything possible to make crashes like this survivable. Nothing miraculous about it, just human beings doing the best they can with a bad situation.

/rant off

95 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:57:13pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

And it didn’t exactly drop straight out of the sky from 30,000 feet. As I understand it, the plane was in the process of landing, it stayed upright, etc.

96 GeneJockey  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:58:04pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

I imagine the reason people say ‘miraculous’ is because we’re used to everyone being killed because the plane fell out of the sky, rather than being a botched landing.

97 b.d.  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:58:21pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

Black Box flight recorders are a violation of the 4ht Amendment!

Not even a FISA warrant!

//

98 GeneJockey  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:58:23pm

re: #95 Bulworth

And it didn’t exactly drop straight out of the sky from 30,000 feet. As I understand it, the plane was in the process of landing, it stayed upright, etc.

jinx

99 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:59:07pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

It always gets me a little bit when news announcers talk about the fact that so many people survived the SFO crash as “miraculous.”

It was a plane crash. I’ve never understood how anything about a plane crash can be called miraculous. They survived because there are a lot of safety systems and well-trained people who did everything possible to make crashes like this survivable. Nothing miraculous about it, just human beings doing the best they can with a bad situation.

/rant off

Similarly, calling the survivors ‘lucky’. No, lucky applies to the ones who missed the flight.

100 GeneJockey  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:59:09pm

re: #97 b.d.

Black Box flight recorders are a violation of the 4ht Amendment!

Not even a FISA warrant!

//

Well, it was a foreign plane.

101 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:59:58pm

And of course half the country is of the view that when they find their car keys after 18-and-a-half minutes of searching, it’s “miraculous”.

102 GeneJockey  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:00:22pm

re: #99 wrenchwench

Similarly, calling the survivors ‘lucky’. No, lucky applies to the ones who missed the flight.

Till Fate comes after them….
//

103 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:01:33pm

We’ve got quite an example of Gus’s circle of derp here.

104 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:01:37pm

And it’s not like everyone on the plane died except Bruce Willis. But just for the record, do we know where Samuel L. Jackson was when the plane landed?

105 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:01:40pm

re: #102 GeneJockey

Till Fate comes after them….
//

Funny how Fate gets all its victims on the same flight….

106 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:01:53pm

(Downstairs, I mean.)

107 b.d.  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:02:02pm

re: #101 Bulworth

And of course half the country is of the view that when they find their car keys after 18-and-a-half minutes of searching, it’s “miraculous”.

I am on the side that would call a rountine flight miraculous. Anyone can crash a plane.

108 GeneJockey  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:02:28pm

re: #101 Bulworth

And of course half the country is of the view that when they find their car keys after 18-and-a-half minutes of searching, it’s “miraculous”.

“Where in Hell did Satan hide my car keys THIS time? Oh, there they are! Thank you, Jesus!”

Sounds like a tweet from my niece.

109 GeneJockey  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:03:11pm

re: #107 b.d.

I am on the side that would call a rountine flight miraculous. Anyone can crash a plane.

That’s why they don’t let just anyone fly them.
//

110 GeneJockey  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:03:54pm

re: #105 wrenchwench

Funny how Fate gets all its victims on the same flight….

I was referring to the ‘Final Destination’ series of scary movies.

111 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:04:08pm
112 Gus  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:05:10pm

re: #106 Charles Johnson

(Downstairs, I mean.)

I’m sure the Venezuelan authorities would be listening in on Snowden’s every word. 24/7

113 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:06:25pm

re: #110 GeneJockey

I was referring to the ‘Final Destination’ series of scary movies.

OMG, yet another cultural lacuna in my upbringing!

114 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:06:58pm

re: #106 Charles Johnson

(Downstairs, I mean.)

And all over the Pages…has he been saving up stuff to spew?

115 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:07:20pm

re: #111 Targetpractice

A very big blow to state: Judge: I’m gonna let jurors hear that #Trayvon had marijuana in his system. #Zimmerman
— Rene Stutzman (@renestutzman) July 8, 2013

What were Zimm’s toxicology findings from that night?

116 Gus  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:10:04pm

re: #114 Backwoods_Sleuth

And all over the Pages…has he been saving up stuff to spew?

Oh, that. I went back and re-read that top bottom comment this morning and just shook my head. Maybe there was some booze talking. Weird stuff.

117 Gus  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:10:57pm

Shook that is.

118 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:11:32pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

We’ve got quite an example of Gus’s circle of derp here.

What’s Gus doing now?

119 Varek Raith  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:12:26pm

re: #118 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

What’s Gus doing now?

Running around screaming something about airplanes.
Or some such.

120 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:12:45pm

re: #50 Sol Berdinowitz

In Florida, this is how you “stand your ground”…

Which works up until the sinkhole opens up.
/

121 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:13:48pm

re: #116 Gus

Oh, that. I went back and re-read that top bottom comment this morning and just shook my head. Maybe there was some booze talking. Weird stuff.

He’s run the category! Where’s Buck when he’s needed?

/i’m going to regret that, aren’t i…

122 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:18:30pm
123 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:19:53pm

And while we’re on the subject of ‘surveillance’ you all should really watch the movie Surveillance with Bill Pullman and Julia Ormond.

124 Varek Raith  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:21:27pm
125 engineer cat  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:21:33pm

re: #123 Bulworth

And while we’re on the subject of ‘surveillance’ you all should really watch the movie Surveillance with Bill Pullman and Julia Ormond.

well the review says “twisted and disturbing” which is a pretty good recommendation as far as i’m concerned

126 Lidane  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:23:11pm
127 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:23:13pm

re: #111 Targetpractice

It wasn’t a very large amount at all.

128 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:24:20pm

re: #125 engineer cat

Yeah, no higher honor, really.

129 Lidane  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:24:37pm
130 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:25:00pm

re: #127 Justanotherhuman

It wasn’t a very large amount at all.

My understanding is that defense has a witness on the roster who will argue level high enough to cause some level of impairment, Dr. Bao is also subject to recall and he was stating to the court while the jury was out that he’s reconsidered his own conclusion that the level was too low.

131 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:25:12pm

re: #126 Lidane

19th century: Women too hysterical and emotional to have a vote.

132 Lidane  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:27:00pm

re: #131 Bulworth

19th century: Women too hysterical and emotional to have a vote.

And every other century before that, women were too hysterical and emotional to own or inherit property, have legal standing, divorce, or speak their minds.

133 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:27:03pm

re: #131 Bulworth

19th century: Women too hysterical and emotional to have a vote.

Send them to the asylum!!11!!

134 Gus  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:27:09pm

re: #121 wrenchwench

He’s run the category! Where’s Buck when he’s needed?

/i’m going to regret that, aren’t i…

I don’t think Buck ever went to that place.

135 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:29:47pm

re: #134 Gus

I don’t think Buck ever went to that place.

True. That was a downright nasty comment. Buck is merely moronic and frustrating. And sometimes offensive. Actually, he was downright nasty a couple of times, but differently.

136 piratedan  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:29:57pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

It always gets me a little bit when news announcers talk about the fact that so many people survived the SFO crash as “miraculous.”

It was a plane crash. I’ve never understood how anything about a plane crash can be called miraculous. They survived because there are a lot of safety systems and well-trained people who did everything possible to make crashes like this survivable. Nothing miraculous about it, just human beings doing the best they can with a bad situation.

/rant off

come one now, we know full well that safety regulations never saved anyone from anything ever, it’s just democrats way of making government bigger which is a total fail for everybody, especially job creators.////

137 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:29:59pm

re: #111 Targetpractice

Appropriate that shooting victim was drug tested and shooter wasn’t. /

138 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:30:55pm

re: #137 Bulworth

Appropriate that shooting victim was drug tested and shooter wasn’t. /

Tox screen is normal part of autopsy.

139 Ian G.  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:31:10pm

re: #111 Targetpractice

140 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:31:40pm

re: #138 Targetpractice

Ah, good point.

141 engineer cat  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:34:26pm

re: #126 Lidane

ladies are too hysterical and emotional to have a choice

has anybody else seen this movie ‘augustine’?

142 Kragar  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:36:36pm

Buchanan: Immigration Reform Will Cause US to Break Up Like Soviet Union

Pat Buchanan continues to go all-out in his opposition to new bipartisan immigration policy, claiming in a recent interview with conservative radio host Andrea Tantaros that immigration reform will cause the United States to break apart like the Soviet Union.

The Daily Caller posts a clip of Buchanan warning that if “you put 100 million Hispanic folks in the United States,” the southwest will become “as much a part of Mexico as it is of the United States.”

“If they have a different language, different culture, different faith, basically you get two peoples and two peoples eventually become two countries,” he said.

Buchanan went on to offer an alternate history of the United States, which he said became “one nation back around 1960, when all the immigrants who had come from eastern and southern Europe 1890-1920 had been assimilated and Americanized” through the Depression, World War II and television programming. “That brought us all together, and now we’re falling apart,” he said.

143 Lidane  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:36:58pm

Crazy Uncle Pat is bleating again:

144 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:38:34pm

re: #142 Kragar

Buchanan: Immigration Reform Will Cause US to Break Up Like Soviet Union

Funny, I was pretty sure I remember the Soviet Union falling apart because it couldn’t afford to pay for a damned thing, to the point that the satellite governments said “Fuck this!”

145 Kragar  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:38:36pm

re: #143 Lidane

Crazy Uncle Pat is bleating again:

[Embedded content]

Is that like when you put enough dumb ass crackers in one room they start talking secession?

146 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:38:41pm

re: #116 Gus

Oh, that. I went back and re-read that top bottom comment this morning and just shook my head. Maybe there was some booze talking. Weird stuff.

talking to himself downstairs now…

147 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:40:02pm

re: #142 Kragar

Buchanan: Immigration Reform Will Cause US to Break Up Like Soviet Union

The Daily Caller posts a clip of Buchanan warning that if “you put 100 million Hispanic folks in the United States,” the southwest will become “as much a part of Mexico as it is of the United States.”

“If they have a different language, different culture, different faith, basically you get two peoples and two peoples eventually become two countries,” he said.

Shit, we shoulda thoughta that before we took bought half of Mexico in 1848.

148 Kragar  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:40:08pm

re: #144 Targetpractice

Funny, I was pretty sure I remember the Soviet Union falling apart because it couldn’t afford to pay for a damned thing, to the point that the satellite governments said “Fuck this!”

Don’t be silly, Pat is saying the Soviet Union fell apart because of Mexicans.
/

149 engineer cat  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:40:59pm

The Daily Caller posts a clip of Buchanan warning that if “you put 100 million Hispanic folks in the United States,” the southwest will become “as much a part of Mexico as it is of the United States.”

tell it to james k polk

150 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:42:26pm

re: #124 Varek Raith

Update on Canadian derailment;
13 dead, 50 missing in Canada train derailment and explosion, police say.

Ah shit this is not good.

151 engineer cat  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:42:58pm

“If they have a different language, different culture, different faith, basically you get two peoples and two peoples eventually become two countries,” he said.

which is why the irish will never assimilate to american culture

152 Kragar  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:43:54pm

Pat Buchanan: “Discovered by the Germans in 1904, they named it San Diego, which of course in German means a whale’s vagina.”

153 Kragar  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:44:26pm

re: #151 engineer cat

“If they have a different language, different culture, different faith, basically you get two peoples and two peoples eventually become two countries,” he said.

which is why the irish will never assimilate to american culture

Or Irish Culture for that matter.
///

154 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:46:16pm

re: #151 engineer cat

“If they have a different language, different culture, different faith, basically you get two peoples and two peoples eventually become two countries,” he said.

which is why the irish will never assimilate to american culture

And how do we ever expect them ni-CLANGs to learn to live in polite society?!

///

155 GeneJockey  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:46:54pm

re: #151 engineer cat

“If they have a different language, different culture, different faith, basically you get two peoples and two peoples eventually become two countries,” he said.

which is why the irish will never assimilate to american culture

In saying this, of course, Ol’ Pat simply reflected over 250 years of our history:

Few of their children in the country learn English. The signs in our streets have inscriptions in both languages. Unless the stream of importation could be turned they will soon so outnumber us that all the advantages we have will not be able to preserve our language, and even our government will become precarious” - Ben Franklin, talking about the Germans in Pennsylvania, 25 years before there even was an America.

156 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:47:46pm

re: #155 GeneJockey

In saying this, of course, Ol’ Pat simply reflected over 250 years of our history:

Few of their children in the country learn English. The signs in our
streets have inscriptions in both languages. Unless the stream
of importation could be turned they will soon so outnumber us that all the
advantages we have will not be able to preserve our language, and even our
government will become precarious
” - Ben Franklin, talking about the Germans in Pennsylvania, 25 years before there even was an America.

And the Dutch!!!11!!

157 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:52:29pm

So, the US is falling apart, is it? Does that mean a garage sale is due?

Any chance Canada can pick up some bargains?

158 GeneJockey  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:53:33pm

re: #157 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

So, the US is falling apart, is it? Does that mean a garage sale is due?

Any chance Canada can pick up some bargains?

As far as I’m concerned, they’re welcome to the South, as long as they don’t track mud across the Midwest going back and forth.
//

159 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:53:48pm

re: #157 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

So, the US is falling apart, is it? Does that mean a garage sale is due?

Any chance Canada can pick up some bargains?

We’re letting Texas go for a song. But better act fast, because I notice Mexico’s been eyeing it as well.

160 Kragar  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:56:37pm

re: #158 GeneJockey

As far as I’m concerned, they’re welcome to the South, as long as they don’t track mud across the Midwest going back and forth.
//

We’d get more use out of a border wall if it sealed the South off from the rest of the country.
//

161 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:57:25pm
162 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:57:42pm

re: #158 GeneJockey

As far as I’m concerned, they’re welcome to the South, as long as they don’t track mud across the Midwest going back and forth.
//

Was thinking Washington and Oregon maybe the Dakotas.
Hawaii too.

163 Kragar  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:59:38pm

Florida: Everything must go! Bargain prices! Limited time only.

164 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:59:59pm

re: #162 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Was thinking Washington and Oregon maybe the Dakotas.
Hawaii too.

You might as well take Panama City Beach—you’ve got half your shit in storage lockers there already.

165 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:00:25pm

re: #163 Kragar

Florida: Everything must go! Bargain prices! Limited time only.

Act now and we’ll throw in the Keys for free.

//

166 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:00:28pm

re: #159 Targetpractice

We’re letting Texas go for a song. But better act fast, because I notice Mexico’s been eyeing it as well.

Mexico can have it.

167 Varek Raith  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:01:56pm
168 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:01:56pm

re: #163 Kragar

Florida: Everything must go! Bargain prices! Limited time only.

Isnt part of Florida ours already?

169 Varek Raith  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:02:59pm

re: #168 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Isnt part of Florida ours already?

No, that’s Virginia Beach.
/

170 GeneJockey  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:03:20pm

re: #163 Kragar

Florida: Everything must go! Bargain prices! Limited time only.

Northeastern retirees! Get ‘em while they’re not dead!

And with each purchase, a free ‘Stand Your Ground’ coffee mug!

171 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:04:02pm

re: #168 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

They just want you to think it is.

172 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:04:18pm

re: #169 Varek Raith

No, that’s Virginia Beach.
/

Wait, this means I’m Canadian?

/

173 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:04:28pm

DERP

174 Varek Raith  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:04:51pm

re: #172 Targetpractice

Wait, this means I’m Canadian?

/

Worse.
French Canadian.

175 GeneJockey  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:05:11pm

re: #172 Targetpractice

Wait, this means I’m Canadian?

/

Didn’t see that one coming, eh?

176 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:05:16pm

re: #172 Targetpractice

Wait, this means I’m Canadian?

/

Unless you’re a native guide.

177 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:06:03pm

re: #174 Varek Raith

Worse.
French Canadian.

Sacre bleu!

/

178 Varek Raith  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:06:07pm

re: #173 Vicious Babushka

DERP

[Embedded content]

Heh, silly Glenn doesn’t realize it’s all a show on their part.

179 Kragar  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:06:10pm

Please note; to all those folks who said the US government killed Andrew Breitbart using some sort of secret heart attack weapon to shut him up.

Glenn Greenwald is still alive and well.

That is all.

180 piratedan  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:06:42pm

re: #173 Vicious Babushka

DERP

[Embedded content]

I’m sure that is just what the throng of protestors on the streets of Rio are demanding……//

181 GeneJockey  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:08:09pm

re: #179 Kragar

Please note; to all those folks who said the US government killed Andrew Breitbart using some sort of secret heart attack weapon to shut him up.

Glenn Greenwald is still alive and well.

That is all.

So far.
//

182 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:08:30pm

So we lose the squid and snail chowder, and they keep Snowden? Sounds good.

183 jaunte  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:09:37pm

re: #173 Vicious Babushka

cancel state dinner in USA

Next, the comfy chair.

184 engineer cat  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:09:49pm

re: #177 Targetpractice

Sacre bleu!

/

Osti de tabarnac de calice!

185 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:10:18pm

re: #172 Targetpractice

Wait, this means I’m Canadian?

/

Do you have maple syrup in one hand and a beaver in the other?

186 Kragar  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:10:48pm

re: #185 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Do you have maple syrup in one hand and a beaver in the other?

No and yes.

187 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:11:36pm

re: #185 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Do you have maple syrup in one hand and a beaver in the other?

Lick your fingers and tell us which.

188 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:12:35pm

re: #186 Kragar

No and yes.

Then you’re part Canadian.

189 Kragar  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:13:13pm

re: #188 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Then you’re part Canadian.

Even if the beaver was shaved?

190 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:14:12pm

re: #189 Kragar

Even if the beaver was shaved?

Yum Canadian hairless.

191 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:15:19pm

What have we done to this thread?

192 darthstar  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:15:23pm

Good kitty.

i.likes-media.com

193 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:16:36pm

re: #191 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

What have we done to this thread?

Alberta’d it.

194 jaunte  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:16:52pm

Self-described “country boy” just testified in re Texas SB1 that women have to reproduce to ensure the survival of America.

195 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:17:20pm

re: #191 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

What have we done to this thread?

Gone where no man has gone before?

196 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:17:21pm

re: #179 Kragar

Please note; to all those folks who said the US government killed Andrew Breitbart using some sort of secret heart attack weapon to shut him up.

Glenn Greenwald is still alive and well.

That is all.

Please note: all those folks that believe the US government killed Breitbart likely believe that Greenwald has been turned gay—a fate worse than death—with some kind of satellite-mounted beam powered by an orphan heart.

197 Kragar  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:17:34pm

Thieves Arrested After Stealing 6 Million Pounds of Canadian Maple Syrup

The Federation of Quebec Maple Syrup Producers believe several million cans of stolen maple syrup may be sitting on U.S. grocery shelves.

Quebec police arrested four men in connection with the robbery of 6 million pounds of maple syrup stolen from a Canadian warehouse in a heist spanning just under a year.

The thieves managed to steal the sticky substance from a warehouse in Saint-Louis-de-Blandford between August 2011 and July of this year. The stolen syrup tops out at $18 million in total market value.

Meanwhile, the Russian mastermind behind the theft of 80,000 lbs of walnuts remains at large.

198 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:18:22pm

re: #195 Targetpractice

Gone where no man has gone before?

Not bloody likely.

Youtube Video

199 darthstar  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:18:40pm

re: #192 darthstar

Good kitty.

i.likes-media.com

200 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:18:48pm

re: #194 jaunte

Self-described “country boy” just testified in re Texas SB1 that women have to reproduce to ensure the survival of America.

[Embedded content]

Yeah, I’ve sort of taken that as implied more and more from the anti-choice crowd.

201 darthstar  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:19:38pm
202 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:20:13pm

re: #201 darthstar

Romney/Ryan!

Image: 995723_656473164380965_872156925_n.jpg

Too late, mon.

203 darthstar  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:20:19pm

re: #201 darthstar

Romney/Ryan!

Image: 995723_656473164380965_872156925_n.jpg

Kids also probably have some nice Detroit Tigers World Series Champions t-shirts.

204 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:28:04pm

re: #195 Targetpractice

Gone where no WOman has gone before?

Now it’s true.

205 RemainCalm  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:29:49pm

This is only a test.
SoundCloud

206 darthstar  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:30:27pm

Color me surprised

thinkprogress.org

House Republicans will hold the national debt ceiling increase hostage until President Obama agrees to mandatory spending cuts to Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, the National Journal reports, and will seek to use the leverage of default to force Democrats to enact the policies in Rep. Paul Ryan’s (R-WI) budget.

207 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:31:35pm

re: #206 darthstar

Color me surprised

thinkprogress.org

‘Cause that worked so well before.

208 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:31:42pm

re: #197 Kragar

Hmm. I recently was given a qt of Wisconsin maple syrup. It was excellent even if “only boiled twice”, for which apologies were made. Bits of sugar in the bottom and still delicious.

209 GeneJockey  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:33:26pm

re: #206 darthstar

Color me surprised

thinkprogress.org

“If you don’t let us fuck the olds and the poors, we’ll fuck everyone.”

210 darthstar  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:33:34pm

re: #106 Charles Johnson

(Downstairs, I mean.)

How far downstairs?

211 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:34:01pm

re: #206 darthstar

Color me surprised

thinkprogress.org

This time I say fuck it, we do not negotiate with terrorists.

212 Kragar  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:35:15pm

re: #206 darthstar

Once again, the GOP proves the adage that you don’t negotiate with terrorists.

213 Gus  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:35:15pm
214 Dave In Austin  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:37:20pm

re: #206 darthstar

Ahhh… No!

215 Kid A  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:37:21pm
216 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:40:33pm

re: #212 Kragar

Once again, the GOP proves the adage that you don’t negotiate with terrorists.

It’s way past time for Obama to dare them to shoot that hostage.

217 jaunte  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:40:58pm
218 GeneJockey  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:41:30pm

re: #215 Kid Hail Satan

“Nobody is forcing anybody to work at Walmart.”

I love it. First cut every program for the poor and/or unemployed, then claim that nobody’s forcing them to take shitty low wage, low benefit jobs. And as an added bonus, let’s get rid of the minimum wage and overtime pay.

Finally we can compete with the Third World for low wage jobs!
//

219 Kid A  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:41:36pm
220 Kid A  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:43:08pm

BOOM!

221 Kid A  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:45:45pm

What the fuck is it with the Christians and the Right with their fascination with gays? Crazy Pat chimed in…

222 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:45:49pm

re: #215 Kid Hail Satan

[Embedded content]

God, how sick of that refrain I’ve gotten, “Nobody’s forcing them to work there!” Yeah, and nobody “forced” folks to work in company towns either.

223 Kragar  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:48:18pm

re: #222 Targetpractice

God, how sick of that refrain I’ve gotten, “Nobody’s forcing them to work there!” Yeah, and nobody “forced” folks to work in company towns either.

No one is giving them viable options for better choices either.

224 piratedan  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:52:33pm

re: #217 jaunte

[Embedded content]

and the forced birthers hate hearing about science and their lack of compassion for anyone outside their ideological bubble….

225 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:53:58pm

re: #223 Kragar

No one is giving them viable options for better choices either.

Oh, not only are there no viable alternatives being offered, the suggestion is met with scorn and derision. “What, you want to give them higher wages? More benefits? Let them get a ‘real’ job! If they’re working at Wal-Mart, it’s because they’re too lazy or stupid to make real money!”

226 Kid A  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:54:06pm

BRILLIANT!

227 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:54:18pm

re: #191 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

What have we done to this thread?

we’ve all gone to Hell….and we LIKE it!

228 Gus  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:54:54pm

You can see the path of the Asiana 777 here. Click the pic link for a larger version.

229 Kid A  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:55:47pm

re: #227 Backwoods_Sleuth

we’ve all gone to Hell….and we LIKE it!

HAIL SATAN!!!

230 GeneJockey  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:56:43pm

re: #225 Targetpractice

Oh, not only are there no viable alternatives being offered, the suggestion is met with scorn and derision. “What, you want to give them higher wages? More benefits? Let them get a ‘real’ job! If they’re working at Wal-Mart, it’s because they’re too lazy or stupid to make real money!”

The religion of the Free Market at work. It can’t be that there are no good jobs. People who have shitty jobs DESERVE those shitty jobs. Their work “doesn’t add any value”.

231 Gus  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:57:32pm
232 klys  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:57:38pm

re: #228 Gus

You can see the path of the Asiana 777 here. Click the pic link for a larger version.

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I keep reading about the accident. I will look forward to hearing what the NTSB has to say about it.

The performance of the aircraft structure itself was nothing short of amazing and my hat is off to the Boeing engineers. I remember watching a multipart documentary on the design, construction, and testing of the 777. I should see if I can find that to watch somewhere again.

233 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:58:19pm

Well, we knew the god-botherers were lying about this anyway.

Fetal PainA Systematic Multidisciplinary Review of the Evidence jama.jamanetwork.com

234 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:01:00pm

re: #232 klys and whatnot

I keep reading about the accident. I will look forward to hearing what the NTSB has to say about it.

The performance of the aircraft structure itself was nothing short of amazing and my hat is off to the Boeing engineers. I remember watching a multipart documentary on the design, construction, and testing of the 777. I should see if I can find that to watch somewhere again.

I toured the factory while they were building 777s.

235 Gus  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:02:34pm

re: #232 klys and whatnot

I keep reading about the accident. I will look forward to hearing what the NTSB has to say about it.

The performance of the aircraft structure itself was nothing short of amazing and my hat is off to the Boeing engineers. I remember watching a multipart documentary on the design, construction, and testing of the 777. I should see if I can find that to watch somewhere again.

21st Century Jet. Looks like it’s 5 episodes and in parts.

236 klys  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:03:17pm

re: #234 wrenchwench

I toured the factory while they were building 777s.

That must have been awesome.

My coolest factory tour (and I don’t mean that in the literal sense for sure) was an aluminum recycling facility (Alcoa).

I have a poured aluminum test sample somewhere. That stuff is scary though, because you can’t tell when it’s near melting temperature.

…Of course, then I went and worked with stuff well beyond the aluminum melting temp. So now my scale is a little warped. (Oven at 500 degrees F? That’s plenty cool, no problem.)

237 klys  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:03:55pm

re: #235 Gus

21st Century Jet. Looks like it’s 5 episodes and in part.

That sounds right. It was a fascinating watch some mumblemumble years ago.

238 b.d.  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:04:01pm

Randy Travis now hospitalized

The Beck conspiracy is getting bigger! I think he must be on to something.

//

239 klys  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:08:37pm

In other news, the Bay Bridge opening has been pushed off - contractor now says it’ll be mid-December.

On the plus side, this means no trying to figure out how to go take part in those festivities while also doing the Pleasanton Highland Games.

240 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:10:42pm

re: #17 Bulworth

So, the Muslim Brotherhood led government of Egypt was pushed out by the Egyption military and the PBO WH which is made up almost totally of MB spies and…

My head’s buzzing.

Hopefully, it will work something like this.

241 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:10:49pm

Hubs was home for the weekend and had some quality kitteh time.
At one point, he said “get the camera!”

“Pirates don’t always require a parrot…arrrhhhh!”

242 klys  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:11:30pm

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hubs was home for the weekend and had some quality kitteh time.
At one point, he said “get the camera!”

“Pirates don’t always require a parrot…arrrhhhh!”

That is …possibly one of the more adorable kittens ever.

243 jaunte  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:12:02pm

More crazy Tx SB1 testimony

244 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:12:30pm

re: #28 Interesting Times

Glenn Beck isn’t crazy. He’s nothing but an extremely successful (and sociopathic) con man:

Forbes Profile Reveals Glenn Beck Is Highest-Paid Pundit This Year At $80 Million

Gullibility + mean-spirited outlook + desire to be told what you want to hear = his audience, willing to keep on paying to swallow his toxic bile.

Addicts will pay anything to get their next hit.

245 klys  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:12:31pm

re: #243 jaunte

More crazy Tx SB1 testimony

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And until then, DON’T HAVE SEX!

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246 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:12:38pm

re: #243 jaunte

More crazy Tx SB1 testimony

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“Breed as much as possible, but don’t expect us to help you pay for the damned things!!”

247 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:14:16pm

re: #246 Targetpractice

“Breed as much as possible, but don’t expect us to help you pay for the damned things!!”

“We’ll need your kids to depress the cost of labor.”

248 jaunte  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:14:41pm

re: #245 klys and whatnot

249 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:14:51pm

re: #234 wrenchwench

I toured the factory while they were building 777s.

My first husband (RIP) worked for Interlake Steel (later known as Acme Steel) in Riverdale, IL. Every year the company had Family Day and tours were a big part of the festivities. Truly an amazing and unforgettable experience watching as the steel products were made start to finish.

250 Kid A  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:15:29pm
251 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:15:32pm

Back home.

The news is full of the Quebec rail explosion, police telling us 15 people are confirmed dead, 50 people still missing, politicians with well rehearsed faux sad faces posing for photo ops, pictures of exhausted and depressed recovery workers, trudging slowly away from the scene, interviews with families who just don’t know, harbouring the terrible fear a loved one is gone, while desperately holding on to wisps of hope.

And all we can say is, shit happens.

252 klys  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:16:00pm

re: #248 jaunte

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I can’t even begin to come up with a sarcastic wingnut response to that without triggering my own rage thresholds. There’s some shit that just shouldn’t be up for discussion, and that it is says something very depressing about the world today.

253 Interesting Times  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:16:04pm

Shorter court decision: Oh hai Walker. You can haz ultrasound up your ass:

254 Kid A  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:16:42pm
255 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:16:47pm

re: #249 Backwoods_Sleuth

My first husband (RIP) worked for Interlake Steel (later known as Acme Steel) in Riverdale, IL. Every year the company had Family Day and tours were a big part of the festivities. Truly an amazing and unforgettable experience watching as the steel products were made start to finish.

And the company liability lawyers hung themselves from their tasteful neckties.

256 Lidane  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:16:47pm

OUTRAGE!

257 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:18:25pm

re: #242 klys

That is …possibly one of the more adorable kittens ever.

That’s Piglet. She and her sister, Growler, were released from the bedroom confinement a few minutes ago to terrorize the dogs and wreak havoc upon my computer desk/demesne…and create interesting patterns of claw marks upon my ancient body…

258 Interesting Times  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:19:19pm

re: #252 klys

I can’t even begin to come up with a sarcastic wingnut response to that without triggering my own rage thresholds. There’s some shit that just shouldn’t be up for discussion, and that it is says something very depressing about the world today.

It gets worse

WARNING: reading flyer’s content may cause jaw trauma due to floor strike.

259 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:19:27pm

re: #243 jaunte

More crazy Tx SB1 testimony

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geee… maybe they should be talking to the guys about that…

260 Lidane  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:19:30pm

re: #250 Kid Hail Satan

Because if you can’t afford a monthly birth control pill script, you can TOTALLY afford to pay pregnancy and childbirth costs.

Assholes, all of them.

261 klys  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:19:36pm

re: #251 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Back home.

The news is full of the Quebec rail explosion, police telling us 15 people are confirmed dead, 50 people still missing, politicians with well rehearsed faux sad faces posing for photo ops, pictures of exhausted and depressed recovery workers, trudging slowly away from the scene, interviews with families who just don’t know, harbouring the terrible fear a loved one is gone, while desperately holding on to wisps of hope.

And all we can say is, shit happens.

I’ve been following this some as well. (Mostly, I am putting off updating my to do list.) It’s not being terribly well reported in the US media although they’ve at least mentioned it. (Then again, I doubt even the major news stories here qualify as “well reported” these days.)

One keeps hoping for a better outcome but at this point things really don’t look good.

262 Kid A  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:19:46pm
263 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:19:53pm

re: #249 Backwoods_Sleuth

My first husband (RIP) worked for Interlake Steel (later known as Acme Steel) in Riverdale, IL. Every year the company had Family Day and tours were a big part of the festivities. Truly an amazing and unforgettable experience watching as the steel products were made start to finish.

I toured Sharon Steel in PA with Mr. w in 1986. He worked there in and after high school. His brother in law was showing us around. The next day the guys said, “Who was that kid you had in here yesterday?” They couldn’t believe it was the same person they had worked with 25 years earlier. They had aged quite a bit faster than Mr. w, who got out of town and joined the Navy to avoid their fate.

264 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:20:34pm

re: #260 Lidane

Because if you can’t afford a monthly birth control pill script, you can TOTALLY afford to pay pregnancy and childbirth costs.

Assholes, all of them.

Think they’d clearer if they just said “If you can’t afford a kid, then don’t have sex!”

265 Lidane  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:21:38pm
266 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:23:37pm

re: #255 Decatur Deb

And the company liability lawyers hung themselves from their tasteful neckties.

yep…Interlake pillaged the Riverdale mill and the retirees. My widow’s retirement got sent off to the federal government to deal with, our group health insurance for life was canceled without notice, and last year my pension check got sliced in half just because…Shut Up!

267 klys  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:24:33pm

re: #258 Interesting Times

It gets worse

WARNING: reading flyer’s content may cause jaw trauma due to floor strike.

I will revel in my monthly silent abortion, then.

//

Seriously, fuck you wingnuts who think birth control is silently aborting blastocysts. Fuck. You.

I just a) want to be functional for the entire month and not just 90% of it and b) really really don’t want kids but do have a husband I want to have a physical relationship with.

I thumb my nose at them because I paid for, as a wedding present, my friend’s IUD. In Texas. (Don’t get me started on the availability of birth control for low income women, especially in Texas. It’s not nearly as cheap as wingnuts would like to believe. I believe in putting my money where my mouth is on it.)

268 Gus  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:24:56pm


Lee herself suffered a fractured tailbone during the hard landing, meaning she went through yesterday’s press conference standing up. She kept putting out fires and and helping passengers off the plane while suffering through the pain. She didn’t know she had been injured until she was treated at a local hospital. SFFD Chief Joanne Hayes-White, who talked to Lee immediately after the crash, said later that Lee “was so composed I thought she had come from the terminal.”
269 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:25:08pm

re: #266 Backwoods_Sleuth

yep…Interlake pillaged the Riverdale mill and the retirees. My widow’s retirement got sent off to the federal government to deal with, our group health insurance for life was canceled without notice, and last year my pension check got sliced in half just because…Shut Up!

Born in Pittsburgh—we know the drill.

270 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:25:11pm

re: #258 Interesting Times

It gets worse

WARNING: reading flyer’s content may cause jaw trauma due to floor strike.

that was posted earlier. I have been amusing myself by finding all the spelling, grammar and punctuation errors…

271 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:25:32pm

re: #266 Backwoods_Sleuth

yep…Interlake pillaged the Riverdale mill and the retirees. My widow’s retirement got sent off to the federal government to deal with, our group health insurance for life was canceled without notice, and last year my pension check got sliced in half just because…Shut Up!

Use up the employees, throw away their dependents. Whistle all the way to the bank.

272 Kragar  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:26:09pm

Nine Things We Won’t Miss About Rick Perry

With his announcement Monday that he will not seek an unprecedented fourth full term as Governor of Texas, Rick Perry (R) will retire from the office in January 2015. Sadly, he will leave behind a record of right-wing extremism that few could match.

Here are ten of the worst moments from his 13 years as governor and his “oops” 2012 presidential campaign:

273 GeneJockey  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:26:25pm

re: #271 wrenchwench

Use up the employees, throw away their dependents. Whistle all the way to the bank.

GREEDY UNION THUGS!!!

274 Lidane  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:26:27pm
275 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:28:04pm

So sick of hearing these stories. It’s about time adults are held responsible for this kind of deadly outcome involving children, whether people have permits for them or not. Of course, these folks appear to be Black, so they may all go to jail anyway. It doesn’t say whether the guns were on permits in this house or not, but WTF does it matter? Guns were in the house and accessible to kids.

Three children, 1, 4 and 5 years-old are playing with loaded guns, one boy shoots himself fatally in the head freakoutnation.com

276 engineer cat  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:28:23pm

re: #274 Lidane

Seriously, where are passionate, dumbfounded prolifers during hearings on Medicaid, food stamps, women’s and children’s insurance, etc.?

are there no workhouses?

277 Gus  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:28:35pm
278 Kid A  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:29:03pm

LOL

279 GeneJockey  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:29:42pm

re: #258 Interesting Times

It gets worse

WARNING: reading flyer’s content may cause jaw trauma due to floor strike.

Seriously, if the author of that little piece of crazy thinks premarital sex doesn’t make you feel better, he/she’s never done it properly.

280 jaunte  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:30:24pm
281 GeneJockey  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:30:54pm

re: #278 Kid Hail Satan

Too much irony in my diet.

282 Interesting Times  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:31:11pm

re: #280 jaunte

Needs moar horsemen of the apocalypse.

283 Kid A  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:31:43pm

re: #280 jaunte

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Even the Vatican thinks Revelations was written by someone on acid.

284 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:32:37pm

Ayn Rand and Revelations. And the solons nodded sagely…

285 jaunte  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:32:44pm
286 Lidane  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:32:48pm

re: #278 Kid Hail Satan

Heh. Ayn Rand had definite opinions on abortion:

An embryo has no rights. Rights do not pertain to a potential, only to an actual being. A child cannot acquire any rights until it is born. The living take precedence over the not-yet-living (or the unborn).

Abortion is a moral right—which should be left to the sole discretion of the woman involved; morally, nothing other than her wish in the matter is to be considered. Who can conceivably have the right to dictate to her what disposition she is to make of the functions of her own body?

287 klys  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:33:23pm

re: #277 Gus

I have this going now, and listened to the first one yesterday live. I have to say, she does a fantastic job of laying out what she’s going to discuss and doing so in clear, understandable terms without saying anything that could be described as inaccurate.

Really an impressive job in an area where it’s very easy to have something misconstrued. This isn’t to say that our news organizations aren’t necessarily trying, but it’s nice to see the official folks refraining from anything along those lines.

288 engineer cat  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:33:24pm

re: #283 Kid Hail Satan

Even the Vatican thinks Revelations was written by someone on acid.

the gospel of st john was written on acid. revelations was written on bad pcp

289 Lidane  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:33:27pm
290 darthstar  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:33:29pm
291 Kid A  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:33:30pm

re: #286 Lidane

Heh. Ayn Rand had definite opinions on abortion:

So a blind squirrel does find a nut.

292 Kid A  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:34:34pm
293 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:35:02pm

re: #271 wrenchwench

Use up the employees, throw away their dependents. Whistle all the way to the bank.

There was an upside…every year Interlake also had an annual meeting with a fancy meal in a hotel for shareholders, and most employees were shareholders as part of the pension plan.
At one of the meetings in the mid-80s, we got to hear the first rumblings of a possible hostile takeover of the company, but also plans to spin off the iron and steel division as a separate company.
I watched as Interlake stock was going through the roof because of the hostile takeover threat and, at one point moved everything in my husband’s pension stock from “diversified (aka: “safe”) to company stocks. Then, when I thought it had gotten pretty close to reaching its upper limit, moved about half of it back to diversified.
It was a totally stunning profit (I almost felt like a Ferengi!)

294 Gus  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:36:01pm

re: #287 klys

I have this going now, and listened to the first one yesterday live. I have to say, she does a fantastic job of laying out what she’s going to discuss and doing so in clear, understandable terms without saying anything that could be described as inaccurate.

Really an impressive job in an area where it’s very easy to have something misconstrued. This isn’t to say that our news organizations aren’t necessarily trying, but it’s nice to see the official folks refraining from anything along those lines.

Yeah, she’s pretty amazing.

295 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:36:10pm

re: #276 engineer cat

are there no workhouses?

No, but there are fertilizer plants in Texas and coal mines in Appalachia…

296 GeneJockey  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:36:43pm

re: #291 Kid Hail Satan

So a blind squirrel does find a nut.

A stopped clock is right twice a day. Unless it’s got a 24 hour dial. Then it’s just once. Or the hand fell off, then it’s never.

A clock running at the wrong rate is only right every couple days, more frequently the more wrong the rate is.

OTOH, a clock running at the right rate, but badly set is never right.

I guess I took that metaphor too far down the road….

297 Kid A  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:37:25pm

I stand with Texas women because my Momma raised me right.

298 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:37:28pm

re: #282 Interesting Times

Needs moar horsemen of the apocalypse.

Dancing horses! Get Ann Romney on that post haste…

299 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:37:39pm

re: #268 Gus

That woman really does have true grit. I broke my tail bone and it is very, very painful. Off my feet for 2 wks. Luckily, back in the “bad old days” I had enough sick and vac time so I got paid (temp disability didnt kick in for a month, I think) and co health ins paid the med bills.

300 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:39:21pm

re: #289 Lidane

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good grief…apparently he didn’t learn enough from his previous accidents.

301 klys  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:39:22pm

re: #294 Gus

Yeah, she’s pretty amazing.

Of course, this doesn’t stop folks on one of the piloting forums I follow from complaining that she is an appointee with no expertise in aviation accidents. Never mind that she’s not in charge of the investigation and primarily serves as a spokesperson, or that the NTSB applies to modes of transportation other than air…

302 Kid A  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:39:23pm
303 Kid A  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:43:04pm
304 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:43:19pm

re: #222 Targetpractice

God, how sick of that refrain I’ve gotten, “Nobody’s forcing them to work there!” Yeah, and nobody “forced” folks to work in company towns either.

St. Peter don’t you call me
For I can’t go
Cause I owe my soul
To the company store!

305 Gus  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:44:08pm

re: #301 klys

Of course, this doesn’t stop folks on one of the piloting forums I follow from complaining that she is an appointee with no expertise in aviation accidents. Never mind that she’s not in charge of the investigation and primarily serves as a spokesperson, or that the NTSB applies to modes of transportation other than air…

Because, she’s a she. Here’s the NTSB bio:

Hersman was first appointed as a Board Member by President Bush in 2004 and reappointed to a second five-year term by President Obama. Appointed Chairman by President Obama in 2009 and 2011 with unanimous Senate confirmation votes, she is now serving her second term as Chairman. Her Board position and chairmanship both expire in 2013.

Previously, Hersman was a senior advisor to the U.S. Senate Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation from 1999-2004 and served as Staff Director and Senior Legislative Aide to West Virginia Congressman Bob Wise from 1992-1999. Her efforts contributed to the passage of milestone bills such as the Motor Carrier Safety Improvement Act of 1999, Pipeline Safety Improvement Act of 2002, Transportation Equity Act of the 21st Century, and Amtrak Reform and Accountability Act.

Chairman Hersman received B.A. degrees in Political Science and International Studies from Virginia Tech, and an M.S. in Conflict Analysis and Resolution from George Mason University. She holds a commercial driver’s license (with passenger, school bus, and air brake endorsements) as well as a motorcycle endorsement.

9 years not enough for them?

306 Gus  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:44:23pm

re: #305 Gus

Because, she’s a she. Here’s the NTSB bio:

9 years not enough for them?

Link. ntsb.gov

307 Gus  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:45:26pm

She was born to retired Air Force Brig. Gen. Walt Hersman who served as a fighter pilot.

en.wikipedia.org

308 klys  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:45:51pm

re: #305 Gus

Because, she’s a she. Here’s the NTSB bio:

9 years not enough for them?

Nope. She is a political appointee with no technical expertise in aviation accidents. Therefore, she is anathema

I know *so* many public speakers who could learn from her though, myself included.

309 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:46:01pm

DERP OF THE DAY

310 Lidane  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:47:01pm

re: #309 Vicious Babushka

Amanda Bynes needs to spend more time in rehab and less time on Twitter. She’s a clear case of a kid who got too famous too young and cannot cope at all.

311 Lidane  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:47:48pm

*sigh*

312 GeneJockey  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:48:33pm

re: #310 Lidane

Amanda Bynes needs to spend more time in rehab and less time on Twitter. She’s a clear case of a kid who got too famous too young and cannot cope at all.

This seems to be happening more, and more publicly, and mostly to young women than it did previously.

313 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:48:56pm
314 GeneJockey  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:49:44pm

re: #311 Lidane

*sigh*
Andrew McCarthy to Lou Dobbs: “Maybe we should stop having Muslim Brotherhood people in our government”

So you’re saying you want our government to be more like Egypt?

315 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:51:05pm
316 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:51:46pm

re: #289 Lidane

Has he been bonking any military recruits?

317 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:52:07pm


Doesn’t he need a visa to take that flight?

318 Lidane  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:52:36pm
319 klys  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:52:48pm

re: #287 klys

I have this going now, and listened to the first one yesterday live. I have to say, she does a fantastic job of laying out what she’s going to discuss and doing so in clear, understandable terms without saying anything that could be described as inaccurate.

Really an impressive job in an area where it’s very easy to have something misconstrued. This isn’t to say that our news organizations aren’t necessarily trying, but it’s nice to see the official folks refraining from anything along those lines.

…Case in point, she’s needing to clarify that the cockpit voice recorder records the voices IN THE COCKPIT and that conversations in the cockpit are not necessarily transmitted to air traffic control. And also, that it is not released the public except in transcript form.

This is, of course, different than ATC tapes, which are public.

320 Lidane  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:53:32pm

re: #317 NJDhockeyfan

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Doesn’t he need a visa to take that flight?

Pfft. Details. Everyone knows it’s going to be totally easy for Snowden to get on a plane and land somewhere.

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321 Interesting Times  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:53:52pm
322 Lidane  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:54:34pm
323 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:55:11pm

re: #312 GeneJockey

Because there are far more of them?

324 Lidane  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:55:44pm

But remember, kids — POTUS is the one who is lazy and always slacking:

325 Interesting Times  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:58:13pm
326 klys  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:58:42pm

I’m going to pimp this page because I don’t know if Cheechako will and I think that what is being said is something that we should all pay attention to.

As the population continues to grow and people move outward from cities, the wildland-urban interface continues to grow and becomes a more pressing problem, especially in light of the ongoing drought that many of the western states have been flirting with if not outright dealing with. If nothing else, the wildland firefighters should know that we don’t take their efforts and sacrifices for granted.

327 GeneJockey  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 4:59:55pm

re: #323 Justanotherhuman

Because there are far more of them?

Are there? There have been adolescent actors transitioning to adulthood for decades. Perhaps we used to only hear about the real trainwrecks years later, whereas nowadays they implode in public, in real time on the internet.

328 Kid A  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 5:00:57pm
329 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 5:05:11pm

re: #309 Vicious Babushka

DERP OF THE DAY

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and so is Amanda’s new nose…
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330 engineer cat  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 5:07:29pm

re: #307 Gus

She was born to retired Air Force Brig. Gen. Walt Hersman who served as a fighter pilot.

en.wikipedia.org

she was the one we saw on teevee this morning eh?

331 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 5:07:44pm

DERP
Snowden lied… to Booz Allen
Greenwald lied… to Snowden

332 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 5:07:56pm

re: #320 Lidane

Pfft. Details. Everyone knows it’s going to be totally easy for Snowden to get on a plane and land somewhere.

/////

why would he need a plane anymore? The GlenSnow cultists think he walks on water now…
Or maybe he can just use one of those hotel towels…

333 GeneJockey  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 5:08:08pm

re: #326 klys

22 years after the Oakland Hills fire, which destroyed something like 3300 homes and killed 25 people, some idiots are fighting the plan to get rid of thousands of eucalyptus trees from the same area where eucalyptus trees helped spread the fire.

They burn like torches, then explode and shower flaming debris. When they’re not doing that, they make everything smell like an old cat box.

334 bratwurst  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 5:08:13pm

Reminder: Gasland Part II premieres on HBO tonight. Even if you are not inclined to tune in, you should be aware of why you are going be seeing industry boosters (including at least one here) explain why clean and non-flammable tap water is overrated in the coming days.

335 klys  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 5:08:49pm

Head, meet desk.

Air traffic control is not responsible to tell professional pilots how to fly the planes.

No, seriously. This was a question by a journalist.

(I am focusing on this because the TX news just makes me want to smash things.)

336 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 5:08:59pm

re: #324 Lidane

But remember, kids — POTUS is the one who is lazy and always slacking:

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But Congress got bin Laden!!!

oh, wait…

337 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 5:09:08pm

Is this out of a Cracker Jacks box?

338 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 5:09:18pm

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

Didn’t you hear? He has a phoenix…

339 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 5:10:21pm

re: #338 Justanotherhuman

Didn’t you hear? He has a phoenix…

And tiger blood?

/

340 klys  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 5:10:25pm

re: #333 GeneJockey

22 years after the Oakland Hills fire, which destroyed something like 3300 homes and killed 25 people, some idiots are fighting the plan to get rid of thousands of eucalyptus trees from the same area where eucalyptus trees helped spread the fire.

They burn like torches, then explode and shower flaming debris. When they’re not doing that, they make everything smell like an old cat box.

Well, I confess I like the smell of eucalyptus (they sure smell prettier than our catboxes do sometimes, especially after the Chemical Weapon has paid them a visit), I definitely recognize the fire hazard.

Where we live, the chances of a substantial fire are slim to none, but we like to go to the more wild areas and there’s a non-trivial chance that we’ll retire in that direction someday. I have to acknowledge what the firefighters do.

341 Lidane  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 5:10:34pm

re: #339 Targetpractice

And tiger blood?

/

WINNING!

342 Ming  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 5:11:15pm

re: #1 Bulworth

Stay classy, Beck

A politician’s wife has to go to the hospital, perhaps with a serious medical concern, and all Glenn Beck has to say is “conspiracy”? A decent person would say something like “I’m sorry” or “Best wishes”. What an incredible self-insult on the part of Glenn Beck.

343 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 5:11:24pm

re: #338 Justanotherhuman

Didn’t you hear? He has a phoenix…

No, he WOULD have had a phoenix to pet if he had stayed in China.

344 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 5:11:36pm

re: #341 Lidane

More than Charlie Sheen, which isn’t hard these days.

345 calochortus  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 5:13:00pm

re: #303 Kid Hail Satan

Supporter #SB1 on 20wk#abortion ban: “We want you to meet us halfway..it is about protecting the babies, they are a portion of the equation”

Great. I’ll meet you halfway and suggest the government has the right to force you to give a limited amount of blood, or give someone else only one of your kidneys.

346 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 5:13:03pm

For a young child, the most important part of the body are the legs, for chasing everything that moves. For a teenager the most important part of the body is the genitals because that is what they think with. A young adult uses her brain to develop a career and build a family.

Only when you reach middle age does the asshole become the most important body part.

347 b.d.  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 5:13:10pm

re: #337 NJDhockeyfan

Is this out of a Cracker Jacks box?
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For $15 I can get Snowden a Republic of Texas passport.

I’d prefer one from the 3 Stooges’ Moronica.

348 GeneJockey  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 5:15:56pm

re: #340 klys

Well, I confess I like the smell of eucalyptus (they sure smell prettier than our catboxes do sometimes, especially after the Chemical Weapon has paid them a visit), I definitely recognize the fire hazard.

Where we live, the chances of a substantial fire are slim to none, but we like to go to the more wild areas and there’s a non-trivial chance that we’ll retire in that direction someday. I have to acknowledge what the firefighters do.

Oh, absolutley! And the job’s hard enough without us making the fires more likely, harder to fight, and more dangerous. As the 19 killed in AZ show, these folks put their lives on the line, in conditions most folks would consider insane.

349 Stanley Sea  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 5:16:46pm

re: #322 Lidane

You gave me my best Laugh today when you said thank god for the conference call mute when Perry mafe his announcement. Congrats to you and the other Texans here.

350 klys  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 5:17:15pm

re: #348 GeneJockey

Oh, absolutley! And the job’s hard enough without us making the fires more likely, harder to fight, and more dangerous. As the 19 killed in AZ show, these folks put their lives on the line, in conditions most folks would consider insane.

Also, they’re an invasive species.

It shouldn’t be hard to get the environmentalists on the line for this one. The real challenge is going to be the people who think their property values will decrease because NO TREES.

351 GeneJockey  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 5:22:39pm

re: #350 klys

Also, they’re an invasive species.

It shouldn’t be hard to get the environmentalists on the line for this one. The real challenge is going to be the people who think their property values will decrease because NO TREES.

A suprising number of people have problems with eradicating, or at least reducing, invasive species. In this case, it’s because they’re big shady trees in a land of scrubby little oaks, buckeyes and laurels. Then there’s feral pigs, which destroy habitat and out-compete native deer and other species, but some folks would rather see the pigs take over than have hunters kill and eat them.

352 klys  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 5:25:06pm

re: #351 GeneJockey

A suprising number of people have problems with eradicating, or at least reducing, invasive species. In this case, it’s because they’re big shady trees in a land of scrubby little oaks, buckeyes and laurels. Then there’s feral pigs, which destroy habitat and out-compete native deer and other species, but some folks would rather see the pigs take over than have hunters kill and eat them.

Mmmm, roast pig…

I mean, you were saying?

//

In all seriousness, CA has definitely got itself its own little pile of problems. But with the proper framing (e.g., emphasize the problems caused by invasive species on top of the fire hazard), I think it wouldn’t be quite so hard to persuade people to support their removal, with the exceptions being those who want to maintain the nice big shady trees at the expense of their house (and their neighbors’ houses, and potentially the lives of the firefighters trying to save them) come the next wildfire.

353 Cheechako  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 5:25:27pm

re: #326 klys

I’m going to pimp this page because I don’t know if Cheechako will and I think that what is being said is something that we should all pay attention to.

As the population continues to grow and people move outward from cities, the wildland-urban interface continues to grow and becomes a more pressing problem, especially in light of the ongoing drought that many of the western states have been flirting with if not outright dealing with. If nothing else, the wildland firefighters should know that we don’t take their efforts and sacrifices for granted.

Thanks Klys. I hope to squeeze in some LGF time early tomorrow to get out another reminder about the memorial service.

354 klys  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 5:27:33pm

re: #353 Cheechako

Thanks Klys. I hope to squeeze in some LGF time early tomorrow to get out another reminder about the memorial service.

My husband and I have added the Foundation to the list of charities to donate to when we hit the point of the year that we do that. One of my uncles is a forester and although he doesn’t do firefighting often, it’s been known to happen occasionally (generally he works more with controlled burns though).

I hope you and yours stay safe as the fire season works its way through.

355 GeneJockey  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 5:33:32pm

re: #352 klys

Mmmm, roast pig…

I mean, you were saying?

//

After a pig hunt near Santa Maria (where generous friends shared with those of us who are hunting-challenged) I had a bag in the freezer with 10# of meat. I gave it to a friend of mine who used to be a chef. He made Chile Colorado with it.

Oh.My.God.

In all seriousness, CA has definitely got itself its own little pile of problems. But with the proper framing (e.g., emphasize the problems caused by invasive species on top of the fire hazard), I think it wouldn’t be quite so hard to persuade people to support their removal, with the exceptions being those who want to maintain the nice big shady trees at the expense of their house (and their neighbors’ houses, and potentially the lives of the firefighters trying to save them) come the next wildfire.

I think what the problem boils down to is that a small group can slow things way down with surprising ease.

356 Bubblehead II  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 5:33:36pm

Night Lizard. I came and saw.

Nuff said.

Sleep well.

357 klys  Mon, Jul 8, 2013 5:35:17pm

re: #355 GeneJockey

I think what the problem boils down to is that a small group can slow things way down with surprising ease.

See the constitutional ban on horses being raised for human consumption.

Or for a less CA-centric approach, the clusterfuck that is beach replenishment in NJ, as thrown into sharp relief by Sandy.

358 Thorzdad  Tue, Jul 9, 2013 11:16:41am

If you’re a Comcast subscriber, go take a look in their customer forums under the Channels and Programming section and check-out the 11-page Beck-fest from his fans pleading Comcast to start carrying Blaze. It’s pretty sad and hilarious.


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