Gohmert Repeatedly Shouts ‘Objection!’ to Silence Claims Food Stamp Cuts Hurt Hungry Families

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Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) on Thursday objected over and over again in order to keep statements out of the congressional record that accused Republicans of hurting working families by taking food stamps out of the farm bill.

Before a vote could be taken on the Republican farm bill that drops the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) — or food stamps — Democrats attempted to voice their unhappiness by inserting statements into the record.

“Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent to revise and extend my remarks in strong opposition to the farm bill rule and the underlying bill because it will increase hunger in America,” Rep. Suzanne Bonamici (D-OR) said.

Although requests to “revise and extend” remarks are routine, Gohmert immediate shouted, “Objection!”

Rep. Joe Kennedy (D-IL) next asked permission to “revise and extend” his remarks in opposition to the farm bill “because it takes food nutrition away from working families.”

“Objection!” Gohmert yelled.

“What he is doing is he is not even giving members on our side the courtesy inserting their statement in the record?” Rep. Jim McGovern (D-MA) asked.

As several more Democratic representatives attempted to insert remarks that the bill “hurts the working poor” and “increases hunger and poverty,” Gohmert repeatedly objected.

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1 majii  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 8:46:49am

Gohmert is an odious little man who thinks he’s more important than he is. When republicans left SNAP out of the farm bill, they didn’t think about the many republicans they were hurting by doing so. They have convinced them that it’s not them who depend on SNAP, it’s those “other people” over “there,” and they’re democrats. If the House doesn’t pass a bill that covers SNAP, it should be a teaching moment for them. Whether it will cause them to stop voting for republicans remains to be seen.

2 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:21:49am

The bureaucratic equivalent of “LALALA! I’m not listening!”

3 RealityBasedSteve  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:23:38am

re: #2 Kragar

The bureaucratic equivalent of “LALALA! I’m not listening!”

I think it’s more the equivalent of “SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP”, but in any case it’s what we’ve come to expect from this idiot.

RBS

4 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:23:38am

Tempers flare as Republicans boo Rep. Corrine Brown for shaming them over food stamp cuts

Republicans in the House of Representatives on Thursday threatened to strike a Democratic representative’s words from the record and then booed her after she shamed them for cutting food stamp funding from the farm bill.

“The Bible says, to whom much is given, much is required,” Rep. Corrine Brown (D-FL) observed during debate over whether funding for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) should be stripped from the farm bill. “And this is a sad day in the House of Representatives. Shame on the Republicans! Shame on the House of Representatives!”

After an objection from Rep. Rob Woodall (R-GA), Speaker pro tempore Kevin Yoder (R-KS) ordered Brown to “suspend” and “be seated.”

“Excuse me,” Brown replied, glaring at Yoder. “What did I say that was incorrect?”

In a point of parliamentary inquiry, Rep. Donna Edwards (D-MD) pointed out that Republican members of Congress had often called out President Barack Obama and even said, “Nancy Pelosi’s a train wreck.”

“And their words have not been taken down and they’ve not been seated,” Edwards insisted. “Is it not in order for the gentle lady to be recognized and to be able to speak on this issue, merely saying ‘Republicans’?”

5 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:24:47am

re: #2 Kragar

Exactly.

6 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:24:49am

Another brave soldier in the GOP War on Human Decency.

7 Shockingly, Pathetically Low  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:24:56am

Food stamp recipients are probably, as a group, less likely to vote than many, but maybe this will galvanize them.

8 Bulworth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:25:34am

re: #4 Kragar

In a point of parliamentary inquiry, Rep. Donna Edwards (D-MD) pointed out that Republican members of Congress had often called out President Barack Obama and even said, “Nancy Pelosi’s a train wreck.”

Oh that. That was different. //

9 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:26:25am

Ah, that GOP rebranding is continuing apace. Wonderful stuff.

Force women to carry fetus (including those that have serious medical issues) to term, and once they’re born, cut the funding for critical support programs that would give the baby a chance to grow up and be a productive member of society.

10 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:26:57am

STEVE JUST PROMOTES STARVING THEM.

11 erik_t  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:26:59am

Republican presented with facts, attempts to “object” to them because, y’see, you can make facts go away by not liking them hard enough.

Film at 11.

12 BongCrodny  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:27:18am

I disagree vehemently with much of the GOP’s platform, but there are very few Congressmen I’d consider out-and-out assholes.

Gohmert fits the bill.

13 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:27:48am

re: #9 lawhawk

Ah, that GOP rebranding is continuing apace. Wonderful stuff.

Force women to carry fetus (including those that have serious medical issues) to term, and once they’re born, cut the funding for critical support programs that would give the baby a chance to grow up and be a productive member of society.

And then, once that poor child grows up and has few prospects outside of the military, ship the kid off to die in a dubious war.

14 Skip Intro  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:28:13am
“The Bible says, to whom much is given, much is required,” Rep. Corrine Brown (D-FL) observed

No, she’s not using the Republican bible. That one says “Thou shalt honor big business whence all campaign contributions flow, above all others”.

15 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:30:24am

re: #10 Vicious Babushka

Representative Steve Stockman’s Voting Records on Marriage, Family, and Children
votesmart.org

16 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:32:32am

re: #15 jaunte

Representative Steve Stockman’s Voting Records on Marriage, Family, and Children
votesmart.org

Birth Place: Bloomfield Hills, MI

Zipcode of the 1% (GM executives, etc.)

17 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:33:28am

Pakistani activist to UN: Terrorists think God is ‘tiny, little conservative’ who sends ‘girls to hell’

Malala Yousafzai, the teenage Pakistani activist who was shot in the head by Taliban forces in October 2012, addressed the United Nations general assembly in New York City on Friday.

“There are hundreds of human rights activists and social workers who are not only speaking for human rights, but who are struggling to achieve their goals of education, peace and equality. Thousands of people have been killed by the terrorists and millions have been injured. I am just one of them,” she began her speech.

“I remember that there was a boy in our school who was asked by a journalist, ‘Why are the Taliban against education?’ He answered very simply. By pointing to his book he said, ‘A Talib doesn’t know what is written inside this book,’” she said. “They think that God is a tiny, little conservative being who would send girls to the hell just because of going to school. The terrorists are misusing the name of Islam and Pashtun society for their own personal benefits. Pakistan is peace-loving democratic country.”

She concluded, “So let us wage a global struggle against illiteracy, poverty and terrorism and let us pick up our books and pens. They are our most powerful weapons.”

Sounds a lot like some people in the US I could name.

18 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:35:53am

Between Stockman and Gohmert and Gov. Goodhair, I really think we should never have let the Texas Republic into the Union. The voting majority of the people there are just too stupid, and it makes the rest of us look bad.

BTW, downstairs folks were talking about famous people with their same birthday? Turns out one of mine is Steve Stockman.

Oh, the shame.

19 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:36:51am
20 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:37:11am

Steve Stockman. Yet another lunatic in the asylum that is the House GOP.

21 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:37:19am

re: #17 Kragar

Pakistani activist to UN: Terrorists think God is ‘tiny, little conservative’ who sends ‘girls to hell’

Sounds a lot like some people in the US I could name.

Yeah, but Kos was a terrible person for calling the Tea Party the American Taliban.

22 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:37:25am
23 A Mom Anon  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:37:56am

re: #10 Vicious Babushka

What does it say Steve, about Republicans, when faced with poor children of ANY color, their solution is to cut funding for food stamps, education, programs to help create jobs for their parents and then to call them takers and parasites?

As for Louie, I hope he loses his job, his wealth, and is forced to apply for those food stamps in line with all those people he’s sneering at now.

I’d say more, but I’d be banned and I like it here.

24 Bulworth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:37:58am

re: #18 GeneJockey

It’s not your fault.

25 Gus  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:38:02am
26 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:38:36am

I think part of the overall strategy of control for organizations like ALEC and its super wealthy patrons is having clowns like Gohmert and Stockman out in front to grab all the attention.

27 geoffm33  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:39:02am

Some. People. Just. Can’t. Resist.

28 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:40:18am

re: #24 Bulworth

It’s not your fault.

I blame my parents. I’m one of 6 kids. One time, when a stranger learned my Mom had had half a dozen children, she said, “You must really love children!”

My Mom replied, “I really love their father.”

29 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:41:11am

re: #25 Gus

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If any place deserves a SHARKNADO!, it would be North Carolina.

30 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:41:39am

re: #23 A Mom Anon

What does it say Steve, about Republicans, when faced with poor children of ANY color, their solution is to cut funding for food stamps, education, programs to help create jobs for their parents and then to call them takers and parasites?

As for Louie, I hope he loses his job, his wealth, and is forced to apply for those food stamps in line with all those people he’s sneering at now.

I’d say more, but I’d be banned and I like it here.

Yes, this. And unfortunately the only way Louie loses his job is if he has the nerve to do something not right wing.

31 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:42:14am

re: #27 geoffm33

Some. People. Just. Can’t. Resist.

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You know, I never liked her music but she’s a cool person. I like Miley.

32 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:42:21am

re: #29 Kragar

If any place deserves a SHARKNADO!, it would be North Carolina.

And Texas.

33 Gus  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:42:35am

re: #29 Kragar

If any place deserves a SHARKNADO!, it would be North Carolina.

VAGINADO!

34 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:43:01am

re: #30 HappyWarrior

Yes, this. And unfortunately the only way Louie loses his job is if he has the nerve to do something not right wing.

Yeah, like that would happen. And it’s not so much nerve as brains, or perhaps heart, as long as I’m going all Wizard of Oz.

35 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:43:16am

re: #33 Gus

VAGINADO!

You caused me to spray cherry seltzer out of my nose.

36 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:43:37am

In other news from the Old South, Daughter Two was in the drive-through in a Birmingham Starbucks this morning. The car in front had two bumper stickers:

(Rainbow Colored) “Defend ALL families” and

“Alabama Legislator”

At the window daughter asked “WTF”
Barrista: “That’s Rep XX, she’s through here all the time.”

37 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:43:47am

re: #33 Gus

VAGINADO!

That creates some interesting mental pictures….

38 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:43:54am

re: #34 GeneJockey

Yeah, like that would happen. And it’s not so much nerve as brains, or perhaps heart, as long as I’m going all Wizard of Oz.

Oh it won’t. I’m just saying, the only way Gohmert is losing office is if the idiots find fault with him not being conservative enough on some issue.

39 Gus  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:44:11am

re: #35 Vicious Babushka

You caused me to spray cherry seltzer out of my nose.

Sorry. :D

40 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:44:17am

So, in an OT note, I’m finally reading Roger Kahn’s The Boys of Summer. Excellent read.

41 erik_t  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:44:24am

re: #36 Decatur Deb

In other news from the Old South, Daughter Two was in the drive-through in a Birmingham Starbucks this morning. The car in front had two bumper stickers:

(Rainbow Colored) “Defend ALL families” and

“Alabama Legislator”

At the window daughter asked “WTF”
Barrista: “That’s Rep XX, she’s through here all the time.”

Well it sure as shit wouldn’t be Rep XY.

42 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:45:18am

re: #41 erik_t

Well it sure as shit wouldn’t be Rep XY.

You win Teh Internets of Teh Day

43 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:45:41am

re: #41 erik_t

Well it sure as shit wouldn’t be Rep XY.

I only regret that I have but one upding to give for that post.

44 Weet  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:45:54am
45 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:46:53am


You mean its possible he lied?

46 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:46:58am

re: #38 HappyWarrior

Oh it won’t. I’m just saying, the only way Gohmert is losing office is if the idiots find fault with him not being conservative enough on some issue.

True. And you wouldn’t think it was possible, but then there were the staunch Republicans who got primaried in 2010 and 2012.

47 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:47:02am

re: #43 GeneJockey

I only regret that I have but one upding to give for that post.

Hey!! How about an ‘assist’, here.

48 Bulworth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:47:47am

re: #25 Gus

So, you want motorcycles to be murdered in the womb, don’t you?
//

49 geoffm33  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:47:47am

sharknado and/or Hockey fans will appreciate this:

50 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:48:18am

re: #39 Gus

Sorry. :D

No you’re not. Heh.

51 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:48:20am

re: #47 Decatur Deb

Hey!! How about an ‘assist’, here.

You set ‘em up, he spikes ‘em.

52 erik_t  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:48:56am

re: #45 NJDhockeyfan

You mean its possible he lied?

INCONCEIVABLE!!!!1

53 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:49:00am

re: #46 GeneJockey

True. And you wouldn’t think it was possible, but then there were the staunch Republicans who got primaried in 2010 and 2012.

Bob Bennett was as conservative as it gets in Utah is a good example of what I’m thinking of here. I highly doubt Louie slips because he prefers to be an obstructionist and whiny gasbag but it only takes one slip with the purer than thou.

54 Bulworth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:49:16am

re: #52 erik_t

UNPOSSIBLE

55 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:49:46am

re: #51 GeneJockey

You set ‘em up, he spikes ‘em.

(Dumb luck—that’s ‘Up North’, just forgot her name.)

56 Gus  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:51:11am

Ugh. Gawker published TM’s dead body pic.

57 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:51:16am

re: #55 Decatur Deb

(Dumb luck—that’s ‘Up North’, just forgot her name.)

Well, now I’m no longer impressed. Shall I revoke your upding?
//

58 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:52:08am

re: #56 Gus

Ugh. Gawker published TM’s dead body pic.

One of the many reasons I have blocked Gawker from my work PC.

59 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:52:27am

re: #53 HappyWarrior

Bob Bennett was as conservative as it gets in Utah is a good example of what I’m thinking of here. I highly doubt Louie slips because he prefers to be an obstructionist and whiny gasbag but it only takes one slip with the purer than thou.

I’d say it would not be possible, but the Right keeps exceeding the limits of believable stupidity.

60 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:52:52am
61 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:52:55am

Cool article today on cracked by the way about great slave escapes. I love a good escape story. I know that I always hold out hope of hopes for the Great Escapers to all succeed when watching the movie.

62 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:55:29am

This sort of shouting and stomping works well within The Bubble…it has a most contrary effect outside the Echo Chamber.

And this is what is happening to the GOP: people like Gohmert are so isolated in their little ideological glass house that they have no idea how stupid they sound to anyone outside.

63 Gus  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:56:41am

re: #58 Vicious Babushka

One of the many reasons I have blocked Gawker from my work PC.

Screen shot… from MSNBC!

64 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:56:56am

re: #61 HappyWarrior

#Snowden could have never done what any of those slaves did.

65 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:57:26am

Bozell: Romney Lost Because The Media Failed To Report The Obama Was A ‘Pothead’

Yesterday’s Janet Mefferd program featured a truly idiotic interview with the Media Research Center’s Brent Bozell about his new book “Collusion: How the Media Stole the 2012 Election—-and How to Stop Them from Doing It in 2016,” the premise of which seems to be that there were a variety of negative stories about Mitt Romney but none about President Obam

Apparently, if the media had just dedicated more coverage to the fact that Obama smoked pot as a youth and ate dog as a child while living in Indonesia, Romney would be president today:

Obama was once a youth? WHY DID THE MEDIA HIDE THAT FROM US?
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66 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:57:59am

re: #59 GeneJockey

I’d say it would not be possible, but the Right keeps exceeding the limits of believable stupidity.

I know. I am still amazed at the ways Republicans try to prove they’re more “conservative” then their opponents. Gingrich ragging on Romney for being able to speak French in the presidential primary for example. Yeah, we don’t want a president who speaks an important language! We only want presidents who speak American.

67 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:58:49am

re: #61 HappyWarrior

Cool article today on cracked by the way about great slave escapes. I love a good escape story. I know that I always hold out hope of hopes for the Great Escapers to all succeed when watching the movie.

“Box” Brown, mailed himself to freedom.
The married couple who escaped by posing as a white lady & her servant. (Forget their names)

I don’t know if these are mentioned in the Cracked article b/c it’s firewalled here.

68 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:59:00am

re: #65 Kragar

Bozell: Romney Lost Because The Media Failed To Report The Obama Was A ‘Pothead’

Obama was once a youth? WHY DID THE MEDIA HIDE THAT FROM US?
///

He put it in his own autobiography “Dreams From My Father”

WHY DID THE MEDIA NOT READ THAT PASSAGE ALOUD TO US EVERY EVENING???

69 erik_t  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:59:06am

re: #65 Kragar

Bozell: Romney Lost Because The Media Failed To Report The Obama Was A ‘Pothead’

Apparently, if the media had just dedicated more coverage to the fact that Obama smoked pot as a youth and ate dog as a child while living in Indonesia, Romney would be president today:

You know, the stories that truly matter.

Cheesus.

70 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:59:23am

re: #65 Kragar

Bozell: Romney Lost Because The Media Failed To Report The Obama Was A ‘Pothead’

Obama was once a youth? WHY DID THE MEDIA HIDE THAT FROM US?
///

Yeah because we judge sitting presidents by what they did as teenagers and young children. Bozell needs to find a new hobby. Romney lost because Romney was an unlikable asshole with the charisma of moldy bread.

71 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:59:58am

Gohmert looks like he came from central casting as the ignorant hillbilly who gets lost in the big city.

72 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:00:34am

re: #67 Vicious Babushka

“Box” Brown, mailed himself to freedom.
The married couple who escaped by posing as a white lady & her servant. (Forget their names)

I don’t know if these are mentioned in the Cracked article b/c it’s firewalled here.

Box was yes and I remembered learning about that one in Virginia history in fourth grade. Cool stories. And yep the married couple was mentioned as well. Number one was about a slave forced to work on the CSA Navy hijacking a confederate ship and taking it to northern waters.

73 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:00:51am

re: #62 Sol Berdinowitz

This sort of shouting and stomping works well within The Bubble…it has a most contrary effect outside the Echo Chamber.

And this is what is happening to the GOP: people like Gohmert are so isolated in their little ideological glass house that they have no idea how stupid they sound to anyone outside.

I wish I knew what could possibly shatter the bubble, but it seems to gain strength the less reality comports with their expectations. There was a brief period after the financial crash when many Wingnuts were struggling with the fact that the Free Market CAN fuck up, but then somebody invented the CRA argument and the window closed.

And after Romney lost, and so many on the Right had believed Rasmussen and ‘Unskewed Polls’, on top of believing that everyone else hates Obama as much as they, there was another brief opening, but that one closed even more quickly.

74 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:01:03am

re: #71 Justanotherhuman

Gohmert looks like he came from central casting as the ignorant hillbilly who gets lost in the big city.

Terry Bradshaw who I love as a Steelers fan looks like he could play him in the bio-epic.

75 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:01:06am

Eating dog in Indonesia as a kid is supposed to be bad, but cooking chipmunks in a popcorn popper while you’re in college is supposed to be down home and folksy, IIRC.

76 BigPapa  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:01:32am

re: #65 Kragar

Bozell: Romney Lost Because The Media Failed To Report The Obama Was A ‘Pothead’

Obama was once a youth? WHY DID THE MEDIA HIDE THAT FROM US?
///

Obama used to wear diapers and poop his pants! Why is the MEDIA not reporting this?

77 darthstar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:02:13am

So, what’s the over/under on when the jury in the Zimmerman trial will return a verdict?

78 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:03:04am

re: #76 BigPapa

Obama used to wear diapers and poop his pants! Why is the MEDIA not reporting this?

Obama once had his entire head inside a woman’s vagina, but you never hear that in the drive by media!

79 Weet  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:03:25am

re: #18 GeneJockey

Between Stockman and Gohmert and Gov. Goodhair, I really think we should never have let the Texas Republic into the Union. The voting majority of the people there are just too stupid, and it makes the rest of us look bad.

BTW, downstairs folks were talking about famous people with their same birthday? Turns out one of mine is Steve Stockman.

Oh, the shame.

Our problem in Texas is that people don’t vote. We are 47th out of 51 (states plus DC) in voter turnout, and 51st in % of women that vote.

Some of us are working to improve that, but the voter ID law is going to hurt. As you may realize, most of the crazies and religious right vote. But Latinos, women, the poor — not so much.

80 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:03:58am

re: #65 Kragar

Bozell: Romney Lost Because The Media Failed To Report The Obama Was A ‘Pothead’

Obama was once a youth? WHY DID THE MEDIA HIDE THAT FROM US?
///

Remember what I said above about the Right repeatedly exceeding the limits of believable stupidity? Your honor, I submit this as Exhibit A.

81 BigPapa  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:04:10am

re: #77 darthstar

So, what’s the over/under on when the jury in the Zimmerman trial will return a verdict?

I think he’ll walk on Murder 2 but they might get him on a Manslaughter charge or the Florida equivalent. I have no idea on the odds.

82 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:04:20am

re: #75 Kragar

Eating dog in Indonesia as a kid is supposed to be bad, but cooking chipmunks in a popcorn popper while you’re in college is supposed to be down home and folksy, IIRC.

or torturing kids because they were thought to be gay. And besides all that stuff Bozell whines about is in Obama’s autobiography which was a best seller. I probably could never eat dog but like many people I’ve tried pot. Anyone who judges President Obama for having used and enjoyed pot is a primitive dumbass. All of our boomer and beyond presidents have tried pot.

83 Bulworth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:04:29am

re: #69 erik_t

“Collusion: How the Media Stole the 2012 Election—-and How to Stop Them from Doing It in 2016”

Wait, so the media stole the 2012 election? What about VOTER FRAUD?!1!! Dead people, disabled, homeless, students, young people voting, two, maybe three times? I mean, stay at home moms voted, maybe for PBO? How is that not a scandal??!!!!

//

84 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:04:49am

re: #78 Kragar

Obama once had his entire head inside a WHITE woman’s vagina, but you never hear that in the drive by media!

FTFY

85 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:04:55am

re: #78 Kragar

Obama once had his entire head inside a white woman’s vagina, but you never hear that in the drive by media!

FTFY

86 Bulworth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:05:07am

re: #82 HappyWarrior

Why didn’t media cover what was in Obummer’s book that everyone read??!!!

87 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:05:13am

Before the winning throwback vote today in the Texas State Capitol, pro-life forces ready their victimization meme:

88 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:05:32am

re: #85 GeneJockey

FTFY

6 seconds, bitch!

89 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:05:48am

re: #81 BigPapa

I think he’ll walk on Murder 2 but they might get him on a Manslaughter charge or the Florida equivalent. I have no idea on the odds.

I hope they get him on something at least. I don’t know if the prosecution has proven beyond a reasonable doubt that this was murder 2 but I think it can be proven that it was at least manslaughter. Anyhow, either way I feel for the Martin family seen their son and loved one dragged through the mud by people who never knew him.

90 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:06:01am

re: #84 Vicious Babushka

FTFY

6 seconds.

91 A Mom Anon  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:06:22am

re: #82 HappyWarrior

Or having a kid who tortured a dog to death. Huckabee is such a phony asshole. He’s the kind of guy who would smile and stick the knife in your back, and then scream you backed into it.

92 BigPapa  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:06:22am

re: #88 Vicious Babushka

4 seconds, bitch!

BOOM!

93 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:06:22am

re: #88 Vicious Babushka

6 seconds, bitch!

29 that time.

94 Joanne  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:06:26am

re: #76 BigPapa

Obama used to wear diapers and poop his pants! Why is the MEDIA not reporting this?

Because David Vitter already has a lock on that from more current events?

95 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:07:01am

re: #82 HappyWarrior

or torturing kids because they were thought to be gay. And besides all that stuff Bozell whines about is in Obama’s autobiography which was a best seller. I probably could never eat dog but like many people I’ve tried pot. Anyone who judges President Obama for having used and enjoyed pot is a primitive dumbass. All of our boomer and beyond presidents have tried pot.

I’m pretty sure I ate dog at least once. We were at a combined unit even with some Korean Marines where they supplied the food, and they had tons of “fried chicken” but not one single wing anywhere to be seen.

96 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:07:12am

re: #87 jaunte

Before the winning throwback vote today in the Texas State Capitol, pro-life forces ready their victimization meme:

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Can you remember an incident where a “pro-lifer” was killed by a “pro-choicer”?

Of course “pro-choicers” have been murdered by “pro-lifers”

97 Bulworth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:07:14am

re: #87 jaunte

Mmmmm. Yeah. All those “out of state agitators” coming down from Austin (to Austin) to agitate and be an out of control mob. //

98 BigPapa  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:08:10am

re: #89 HappyWarrior

I hope they get him on something at least. I don’t know if the prosecution has proven beyond a reasonable doubt that this was murder 2 but I think it can be proven that it was at least manslaughter. Anyhow, either way I feel for the Martin family seen their son and loved one dragged through the mud by people who never knew him.

I think a lesser Manslaughter charge is just. I think GZ’s carelessness and zeal caused TM’s death, but there’s doubt that GZ meant to murder him.

99 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:08:13am

re: #91 A Mom Anon

Or having a kid who tortured a dog to death. Huckabee is such a phony asshole. He’s the kind of guy who would smile and stick the knife in your back, and then scream you backed into it.

Yep, that’s as a good metaphor if any to describe Huck.

100 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:08:25am

re: #63 Gus

Screen shot… from MSNBC!

I was just about to mention that.

I’m looking at it. The look on his face at death was one of surprise. He’s slack-jawed and his eyes are open. He’s facing up. His legs are crossed at the ankle, his left leg bent out slightly and tucked under his right leg, which is straight. His hands are lying at his sides.

This does not look like an angry, scary hoodlum. He looks like a kid because he WAS a kid. And if you didn’t know he was dead, you might think he was casually lying in the grass looking up at the sky.

Absolutely heartbreaking.

101 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:09:04am

Afternoon cat photo break. How are things going?

Fierce Kitty!

102 erik_t  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:10:10am

re: #63 Gus

Screen shot… from MSNBC!

A pox on all their houses. That’s just abhorrent.

Fuck the CSIzation of crime coverage and fuck the get-moar-clickthroughs mentality of modern journalism.

103 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:10:44am

re: #95 Kragar

I’m pretty sure I ate dog at least once. We were at a combined unit even with some Korean Marines where they supplied the food, and they had tons of “fried chicken” but not one single wing anywhere to be seen.

Either way, it’s a stupid thing to judge someone on. The way Bozell wants to present this narrative. It’s like Obama tortured the dog himself. Of course, the right is one to talk about dogs when they’ve got Mitt and Seamus, Huckabee and his dog touring son, and Fred Malek a cornerstone of many Republican administrations who burned a dog with friends. Obama did something taboo. The former three or in Huckabee’s case their son commited acts of animal cruelty.

104 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:11:36am

re: #98 BigPapa

I think a lesser Manslaughter charge is just. I think GZ’s carelessness and zeal caused TM’s death, but there’s doubt that GZ meant to murder him.

Exactly.

105 A Mom Anon  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:11:58am

re: #96 Vicious Babushka

I wish someone would ask these morons that exact question. I’d like all the names of the anti-choice people who have been murdered by those awful pro-choice heathens.

106 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:12:18am

re: #77 darthstar

So, what’s the over/under on when the jury in the Zimmerman trial will return a verdict?

Judge is giving instructions right now. I expect they want to be home for the weekend.

Yes, that’s how cynical I am about this.

107 Joanne  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:13:37am

re: #100 Lidane

It’s actually a very good article.

Read it as you wish…or not. gawker.com

108 ProTARDISLiberal  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:14:47am

OT, but I am now watching End of Time Part 1.

After one of the first lines of the episode, I can say, without a doubt, that the Doctor John Hurt will be playing will be the one from the Time War. The Hidden/Ostracized 9th Doctor.

109 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:15:24am
110 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:17:59am

re: #108 ProTARDISLiberal

OT, but I am now watching End of Time Part 1.

After one of the first lines of the episode, I can say, without a doubt, that the Doctor John Hurt will be playing will be the one from the Time War. The Hidden/Ostracized 9th Doctor.

That was the 8th Doctor. The 9th Doctor was Christopher Eccleston, from the first season of the new series. The 8th Doctor was Paul McGann, who only appeared in one show, but whose adventures were in numerous books and comics.

111 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:19:16am
112 engineer cat  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:19:42am

re: #101 Feline Fearless Leader

Afternoon cat photo break. How are things going?

Fierce Kitty!

ignatz cat has been demanding a chance to capture and subdue the electric razor

113 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:20:58am

Some places are just magical…

Fly Geyser in Nevada

114 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:21:06am

re: #111 jaunte

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If vaginas had guns…

115 ProTARDISLiberal  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:21:08am

re: #110 Kragar

No, John Hurt is going to be wedged between McGann and Eccleston.

He won’t be called “The Doctor” as he broke a the promise that he made by taking the name “Doctor”. By committing two acts of near total genocide on his own species and the Daleks.

Edit: What I mean by this is that 9th Doctor is the 10th Incarnation of the individual known as the Doctor, the 10th is the 11th, and the 11th is the 12th.

Which means the Valeyard could appear in the Christmas Special.

116 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:21:34am

re: #111 jaunte

Conversely, if a uterus shot bullets, Republicans would be against regulating it.

117 BigPapa  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:22:26am

I heard little invocation of Stand Your Ground law, though I didn’t follow the trial closely. I think Mara was wise to steer around that as TM could also be claiming Stand Your Ground in confronting GZ.

I think GZ was following TM, TM knew it and hid, then came out and confronted GZ. Fight ensued, TM got the better of GZ and was beating his ass.

GZ ended the fight by drawing his gun.

I don’t think GZ was justified to use deadly force, in a fist fight that he initiated by following TM. That’s the typical justification from wingnuts, because he feared for his life… because people die all the time from fist fights. Probably 2.5 millions times a year or something like that.

118 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:22:37am
119 Bulworth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:22:42am

re: #111 jaunte

Fetuses would shoot their mothers? //

120 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:22:45am

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

Some places are just magical…

Fly Geyser in Nevada

more pictures here

121 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:23:15am

DERP
WRONG. Women were dying from UNREGULATED abortions.

123 blueraven  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:24:25am

re: #116 Lidane

Conversely, if a uterus shot bullets, Republicans would be against regulating it.

Men shoot bullets and see what happens…no one is regulating penises.

124 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:24:26am

re: #121 Vicious Babushka

Women dying is apparently not a problem.

125 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:24:31am

re: #116 Lidane

Conversely, if a uterus shot bullets, Republicans would be against regulating it.

That idea’s giving me a Zardoz moment.

126 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:24:55am

re: #123 blueraven

Men shoot bullets and see what happens…no one is regulating penises.

Well, Zardoz tried to.

127 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:25:06am

re: #123 blueraven

Men shoot bullets and see what happens…no one is regulating penises.

The penis is evil. The penis shoots seeds, and makes new life, and poisons the earth with a plague of men, as once it was. But the gun shoots death, and purifies the earth of the filth of brutals. Go forth and kill!

128 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:25:34am

re: #126 Kragar

Well, Zardoz tried to.

Great minds, same gutter.

129 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:25:38am
130 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:26:01am

re: #116 Lidane

Conversely, if a uterus shot bullets, Republicans would be against regulating it.

I always preferred the line:

“If men had a uterus, abortion would be a sacrament.”

131 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:26:44am

re: #127 GeneJockey

The penis is evil. The penis shoots seeds, and makes new life, and poisons the earth with a plague of men, as once it was. But the gun shoots death, and purifies the earth of the filth of brutals. Go forth and kill!

Hello Ladies…

132 ProTARDISLiberal  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:27:05am

re: #115 ProTARDISLiberal

Or I will let the video from the last 2.5 minutes of the last episode explain.

Youtube Video

133 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:27:40am

re: #130 William Barnett-Lewis

I always preferred the line:

“If men had a uterus, abortion would be a sacrament.”

If men got pregnant, comprehensive sex ed would be mandatory in schools, birth control would be cheap, readily accessible, and covered by insurance, and emergency contraception would be in every bar, right next to the bowl of beer nuts.

134 darthstar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:27:59am

re: #127 GeneJockey

The penis is evil. The penis shoots seeds, and makes new life, and poisons the earth with a plague of men, as once it was. But the gun shoots death, and purifies the earth of the filth of brutals. Go forth and kill!

Some penises have their seeds on the outside.

Image: 1014139_547824461943973_1701543420_n.jpg

135 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:28:09am

re: #124 jaunte

Women dying is apparently not a problem.

They shouldn’t have been having sex. They DEFINITELY shouldn’t have enjoyed it.
//

136 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:28:48am

Darwin award finalist in Kentucky:

Officials with the Paintsville Police Department tell us that there was a small explosion and fire in the pharmacy section of the store around 8:30 Friday morning. Officers say a man had meth making materials in his pocket that they believe reacted and caused the fire.

Walmart in Paintsville evacuated after small fire, explosion

137 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:29:59am

re: #136 Backwoods_Sleuth

Darwin award finalist in Kentucky:

Walmart in Paintsville evacuated after small fire, explosion

Morans.

138 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:30:01am

Democracy.

139 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:30:25am

The Texas GOP would probably think the Magdalene Laundries would be a great way to deal with wicked women and the poor.

140 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:30:34am

re: #116 Lidane

Conversely, if a uterus shot bullets, Republicans would be against regulating it.

Is that a quasi-Zardoz reference?

The penis shoots seed; the penis is evil. The vagina shoots bullets; the vagina is good.

141 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:30:56am

re: #134 darthstar

Some penises have their seeds on the outside.

Image: 1014139_547824461943973_1701543420_n.jpg

Now there’s something you don’t see everyday.

142 darthstar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:30:57am
143 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:31:13am

re: #136 Backwoods_Sleuth

Darwin award finalist in Kentucky:

Walmart in Paintsville evacuated after small fire, explosion

The dangers of the shake-and-bake approach to making meth.

144 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:31:32am
145 Bulworth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:31:35am

re: #138 jaunte

Totally not jamming ramming the bill down everyone’s throats. //

146 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:31:58am

re: #137 Varek Raith

with luck, the meth making materials were in his front pocket when they exploded…

147 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:32:22am

re: #139 Kragar

The Texas GOP would probably think the Magdalene Laundries would be a great way to deal with wicked women and the poor.

JRRBZ!! AND FREE GRUEL!!111 WHUT MOAR COUD TEH POORS WANT????

148 Bulworth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:32:29am

re: #138 jaunte

Remember when Teabag Repubs demanded “What’s the rush??” and “We haven’t had time to read the bill” during the Obamacare debates? Those were the days.

149 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:32:31am

It’s all about “you can’t have (fill in the blank).”

150 darthstar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:32:54am

re: #141 GeneJockey

Now there’s something you don’t see everyday.

One of my friends, a lesbian, asked how you eat a strawberry like that. Another friend, a gay man, said, “Nibble, nibble!” My wife openly teased me for posting a pic of a strawberry shaped like a penis.

151 Bulworth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:33:18am

re: #144 jaunte

Also, too: less government. No nanny state government. /

152 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:33:27am

re: #144 jaunte

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“P.S. Don’t get raped”

153 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:33:33am

re: #144 jaunte

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Did “Reagan Conservative” used to post here? That Twitter name is familiar…

154 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:33:51am

re: #132 ProTARDISLiberal

Timey wimey spacey wacey.

But more to the point, The Doctor riffs on Wash’s “I am a leaf on the wind” spoken numerous times on Firefly, in rescuing Clara. I found that to be kinda interesting itself - to see where Moffat gets some of his inspiration from fellow scifi writers.

155 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:34:07am

re: #150 darthstar

One of my friends, a lesbian, asked how you eat a strawberry like that.

Well you wouldn’t expect her to know.

156 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:34:36am

re: #153 Vicious Babushka

It does sound familiar.

157 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:34:42am

re: #140 Dr Lizardo

Is that a quasi-Zardoz reference?

The penis shoots seed; the penis is evil. The vagina shoots bullets; the vagina is good.

The Zardoz reference is just a coincidence, I think. I’m referring to this, from the original protests during the filibuster here in Austin:

Image: bullets.jpg

158 darthstar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:34:55am
159 Bulworth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:35:25am

Imagine if Obama had called a special session of Congress, not once, but twice, to pass the ACA. The wingnut butthurt would be heard around the world.

160 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:35:39am

re: #158 darthstar

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Snowden eating pie while talking to immigration officials in Russia.

161 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:35:40am

re: #105 A Mom Anon

I wish someone would ask these morons that exact question. I’d like all the names of the anti-choice people who have been murdered by those awful pro-choice heathens.

Run that statement through the Newspeak translators and it comes out, We need an excuse for the past and future violence we’re going to use.

162 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:35:46am

re: #158 darthstar

I vote for pie…especially if VB makes one for all of us.

163 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:35:56am

re: #158 darthstar

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There hasn’t been a Pie Day! in a while. I think I will bake a Key Lime pie when I get home.

164 Bulworth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:36:49am

Remember when Teabag Repubs were for less government?

165 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:37:15am

re: #105 A Mom Anon

I wish someone would ask these morons that exact question. I’d like all the names of the anti-choice people who have been murdered by those awful pro-choice heathens.

It wouldn’t work. They’re impervious to logic, to satire, and to shame.

166 darthstar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:37:38am

re: #163 Vicious Babushka

There hasn’t been a Pie Day! in a while. I think I will bake a Key Lime pie when I get home.

I made a pie crust last night and steamed three artichokes. Wife shredded a bunch of Gruyere and roasted some torpedo onions. Tonight when the first of us gets home, we mix with some egg & cream to make an artichoke, onion, and gruyere tart.

167 JeffFX  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:37:50am

re: #10 Vicious Babushka

168 BigPapa  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:38:01am

re: #144 jaunte

Personal Responsibility usually relies on the female.

Simple!

169 engineer cat  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:38:04am

then don’t have sex

you first

170 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:38:04am

Now Wikileaks is comparing Snowden to the Dalai Lama. LOL.

171 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:38:05am

re: #164 Bulworth

Remember when Teabag Repubs were for less government?

Oh, yeah, that claim. I laughed so hard I almost wet my pants.

172 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:38:11am

re: #164 Bulworth

Remember when Teabag Repubs were for less government?

Hahaha, no. The teabagger idea of less government was demanding that the bureaucrats in DC stop meddling with their Medicare and Social Security checks.

173 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:38:50am

Bobo the Gorilla knows his pies

Youtube Video

174 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:38:52am

Delayed Lamer

175 engineer cat  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:39:17am

Most misquoted lyrics of all time:

3. “Rock the cat box” / “Rock the Casbah” (The Clash, “Rock the Casbah”), 14 percent

176 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:39:32am
177 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:39:42am

re: #174 jaunte

Delayed Lamer

the deli llama

178 dragonath  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:39:56am

re: #144 jaunte

With weak-ass replies like this, I wonder how these guys ever managed to influence anyone.

179 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:40:27am

re: #166 darthstar

I made a pie crust last night and steamed three artichokes. Wife shredded a bunch of Gruyere and roasted some torpedo onions. Tonight when the first of us gets home, we mix with some egg & cream to make an artichoke, onion, and gruyere tart.

Real Babushkas don’t do quiche.

180 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:40:29am
181 jamesfirecat  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:40:30am

To those of you who are interested, my play through of Panzer General this morning yielding a surprise (seriously I didnt’t think I was going to pull it off) Major Victory in first play through of Operation Sealion.

I am doing my set to avoid save scamming (in so far as if I do not like how I did in a mission I will start that mission from scratch) but I feel quite shocked and honestly a bit amazed by my own success given that I went into it blind with no idea what was going to come around the next hex to be uncovered from the fog of war.

(Said lack of knowledge ended up costing me a four out of five star veteran Stuka Unit due to not leaving it any escorts after wiping out the first wave of their flyers not realizing there would be a second. There loss will be remembered, as I now press into the USSR filled with a blithe disconcert for just how much what I just did was totally historically impossible!)

182 BigPapa  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:40:36am

re: #170 Charles Johnson

Barrett Brown is now coming up on Facebook and I’m going to be losing some friends since I don’t fall into the fawning adoration group.

183 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:41:16am

re: #177 Kragar

the deli llama

The first cloned South American camelid, the Dolly LLama.

184 darthstar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:41:35am
185 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:42:18am

Russian lawmaker: ‘Snowden is a hot potato’

…speaking ahead of the meeting, Russian lawmaker Vyacheslav Nikonov, described Snowden as “a hot potato”.

“No one wants Snowden and he is also a hot potato for the United States - they want him back”, he told the BBC’s Steven Rosenberg.

“Before his requests are processed there is no way anyone can extradite him,” he added.

186 darthstar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:42:27am

re: #179 Vicious Babushka

Real Babushkas don’t do quiche.

It’s not a quiche, it’s a tart!

187 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:43:09am

re: #179 Vicious Babushka

Real Babushkas don’t do quiche.

Or at least, they don’t quiche and tell.

188 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:43:21am

Zimmerman trial: Man carrying loaded handgun shoots and kills unarmed teen

Let’s examine the undisputed evidence:

1. The man thought the teen looked suspicious.

2. The man called the police to report his suspicions about the teen.

3. The man was told by the police not to chase and pursue the teen.

4. The man decided to chase and pursue the teen anyway.

5 . The man was carrying a loaded gun.

6. The teen was not carrying a gun.

7. The teen was not carrying any weapon.

8. The teen was carrying candy.

9. The teen was not committing any crime.

10. The teen was not trespassing, as he was walking toward his father’s condo.

11. The man and the teen met in a physical confrontation.

12. The man and the teen fought, wrestled to the ground, and punches were exchanged.

13. The man shot the teen with his gun.

14. The man shot the teen while both were on the ground.

15. The shot from the man’s gun killed the teen.

16. There is no evidence that the teen was committing a crime or about to commit any crime.

17. But for the man chasing and pursuing the teen, there would have been no physical confrontation.

18. But for the physical confrontation, there would have been no fight.

19. But for the fight, the man would not have shot the teen.

20. But for the shot, the teen would be alive.

The man’s actions created a course of conduct that led to a dangerous situation: the physical confrontation and the fight. The dangerous situation subjected the man and the teen to the risk of death or injury, as the man was carrying a loaded gun.

Manslaughter is defined as: “The killing of a human being by the . . . culpable negligence of another, without lawful justification . . . ”

Does the evidence support a finding of guilty of manslaughter beyond a reasonable doubt?

I believe it does. But for the man’s negligence in carrying a loaded gun and chasing and pursuing the teen, after being told not to by the police, there would have been no physical confrontation and the teen would be alive.

189 darthstar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:44:42am
190 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:44:43am
191 darthstar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:45:14am
192 engineer cat  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:45:33am

re: #179 Vicious Babushka

Real Babushkas don’t do quiche.

many people are unaware that the etymology of the word “quiche” derives from the sound it makes when you sit on one

193 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:46:38am

WHAT A FREAKING BUNCH OF DERP
I will summarize this horrible pile of Derp:
WHITE WIMMENZ OUR NOT HAVING ENUF BABIEZ!!11!!
ALL PUBLIC SECTOR WORKERS ARE TAKERZ!!11!!
MUSLIMZ!!11!! WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE!!11!!

194 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:46:44am

re: #192 engineer cat

many people are unaware that the etymology of the word “quiche” derives from the sound it makes when you sit on one

I think that sound is actually “Squiche”.

195 Joanne  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:48:03am

re: #179 Vicious Babushka

Real Babushkas don’t do quiche.

How about this? This is dinner tonight or tomorrow night. Mmmmmm….

196 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:48:08am

re: #193 Vicious Babushka

WHAT A FREAKING BUNCH OF DERP

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That Bryan is a bitter, old white guy afraid of change.
Next!

197 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:48:31am
198 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:48:38am

re: #193 Vicious Babushka

WHAT A FREAKING BUNCH OF DERP

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Should we tell Steve that you’re not supposed to button that top button?

199 engineer cat  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:48:47am

re: #194 GeneJockey

I think that sound is actually “Squiche”.

if you use the provençal pronunciation

200 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:49:01am

re: #196 Varek Raith

That Bryan is a bitter, old white guy afraid of change.
Next!

Its a guest host today.

201 Gus  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:51:00am

OBAMA USES TELEPROMPTERS!!!

202 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:51:50am

re: #201 Gus

OBAMA USES TELEPROMPTERS!!!

[Embedded content]

Soon the Morloks will rule the overworld!

203 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:51:54am

re: #201 Gus

Left right convergence data point.

204 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:52:23am

Gotta say, I did NOT see this one coming:

Fire officials: Bug bombs caused NY building blast

205 Big Steve  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:52:29am

So in the world of intelligent criminals…..man and woman rob a house and are seen. However said genius criminals decide to go have lunch at the local McDonalds a block from the house they rob! Police arrive, arrests ensue. intelligent criminals

206 darthstar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:52:40am
207 Gus  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:52:56am

re: #203 lawhawk

Left right convergence data point.

208 darthstar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:53:10am

re: #201 Gus

OBAMA USES TELEPROMPTERS!!!

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Vindictive use of the teleprompter.

209 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:54:02am

Wow that Steve Deace video that Bryan tweeted is a massive stinking toxic pile of racist derpshit.

210 twisty  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:54:50am

re: #197 Lidane

Yes, how very extreme of Obama to commit the deep racial crime of reminding people that Trayvon Martin was a real person who will be grieved for. ////

211 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:55:00am

re: #204 Backwoods_Sleuth

Gotta say, I did NOT see this one coming:

Fire officials: Bug bombs caused NY building blast

24 bug bombs? What the hell were they trying to kill?

212 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:55:15am

*Turns teleprompter into CluexFour, hands it to Obama*

213 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:55:42am

re: #211 GeneJockey

24 bug bombs? What the hell were they trying to kill?

Klendathu.

214 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:57:04am

re: #211 GeneJockey

The cockamouse from Hell.

215 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:57:40am

re: #213 Varek Raith

Klendathu.

“You apes want to live forever?!?”

“Actually, Sarge, yes, I do!”

216 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:57:47am

Cool. Er, hot. Er…

The planet, known as HD 189733b, is a gas giant with a daytime temperature of 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit where it possibly rains liquid glass sideways amid 4,500 mph winds, NASA says.

217 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:58:07am

re: #204 Backwoods_Sleuth

Not the first time I’ve seen reports that their use has damaged a building. But 24 is a whole lotta bug kill.

218 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:58:40am

re: #215 GeneJockey

Nuke it from orbit, it’s the only way to be sure. Just watch out for those brain bugs… they might have our number.

219 ReamWorks SKG  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:59:03am

You remember that incorrect address “Spike Lee” tweeted last year of some unrelated Zimmerman?

Well, activists are still tweeting it


The news reported that the people who were victimized by Spike Lee settled for an undisclosed amount. They made a mistake. There may still be additional damages.

220 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:59:17am

No, this is not how feminists see themselves, this is how WINGNUTS SEE THEM. DERP.

221 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:59:43am

re: #218 lawhawk

Nuke it from orbit, it’s the only way to be sure. Just watch out for those brain bugs… they might have our number.

Brain Bugs?! Frankly, I find the idea of a Bug that thinks offensive!

222 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:00:23pm

re: #221 Kragar

Youtube Video

223 Bulworth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:02:03pm

re: #207 Gus

We were all afraid of Peak Wingnut. We had no idea that beyond Peak Wingnut was Wingnut-Moonbat Convergence. We weren’t prepared.

224 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:03:25pm

re: #223 Bulworth

We were all afraid of Peak Wingnut. We had no idea that beyond Peak Wingnut was Wingnut-Moonbat Convergence. We weren’t prepared.

The Wingbatularity approaches. Be warned.

225 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:03:29pm

re: #222 lawhawk


Ya, because any non sapient being can calculate the trajectory of an asteroid to hit your enemy’s homeworld from the other side of the galaxy.

226 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:03:35pm

re: #223 Bulworth

We were all afraid of Peak Wingnut. We had no idea that beyond Peak Wingnut was Wingnut-Moonbat Convergence. We weren’t prepared.

Next thing you know, a tornado will start sweeping up wingnuts and carrying them across the country destroying everything in their path.

227 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:04:04pm
228 erik_t  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:05:24pm

re: #220 Vicious Babushka

No, this is not how feminists see themselves, this is how WINGNUTS SEE THEM. DERP.

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Well, they got the grumpy-old-white-man part correct.

229 Jayleia  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:05:41pm

*pokes ProTARDIS Liberal*

We could be walking into a set up with the 8/9th doctor theory.

Porridge: That used to be the Tiberion Spiral Galaxy. A million star systems. A hundred million worlds. A billion trillion people. It’s not there anymore. No more Tiberion galaxy. No more Cybermen. It was effective.
Clara: It’s horrible.
Porridge: Yeah. I feel like a monster sometimes.
Clara: Why?
Porridge: Because instead of mourning a billion trillion dead people, I just feel sorry for the poor blighter who had to press the button and blow it all up.

It made me wonder who would hit the button…who could make something that could annihilate a galaxy, and how someone could feel sorry for the person that did it.

230 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:05:45pm

re: #225 Varek Raith

Ya, because any non sapient being can calculate the trajectory of an asteroid to hit your enemie’s homeworld from the other side of the galaxy.

You’re dealing with a military whose idea of combat tactics was to gagglefuck along in a mob and point your guns in the same direction without close-air or armor support.

231 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:06:17pm

re: #228 erik_t

Well, they got the grumpy-old-white-man part correct.

Also, wingnuts think Obama is waging a WARR ON FREEDUMBTM

232 Joanne  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:07:18pm

Breitbart team already discussing jurors. Those poor jurors are going to get the conservative treatment if they come back with a Not Guilty.

breitbart.com

233 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:07:26pm

“FREEDUMB? That is Yang worship word. You will not speak it!”

234 Weet  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:07:50pm
235 piratedan  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:10:10pm

re: #87 jaunte

Before the winning throwback vote today in the Texas State Capitol, pro-life forces ready their victimization meme:

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Ms. Spillman should be perfectly safe, after all pro-choice people don’t shoot their opponents in their own churches.

236 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:10:24pm

re: #232 Joanne

Breitbart team already discussing jurors. Those poor jurors are going to get the conservative treatment if they come back with a Not Guilty.

breitbart.com

Did you mean if they come back with Guilty?

237 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:10:39pm
238 Bulworth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:10:54pm

re: #235 piratedan

Yes, but they wear orange shirts and assemble peacefully. Very threatening. //

239 Amory Blaine  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:11:00pm

In State Governments, Signs of a Healthier G.O.P.

One of the problems with the claim that the Republican Party is doomed to many years of failure is that it is having plenty of success now — at the state level. The G.O.P. controls 30 of the nation’s governorships, along with a majority of state legislatures.

Some of this is because many of those Republican governors were elected in 2010, a strong year for the party. But that does not reflect the whole story. A Pew survey released on Monday suggests that Americans take a much more favorable view of their state governments than they do of the federal government. The poll also found that state governments controlled by Republicans were slightly more popular than those controlled by Democrats, although states with divided control of government got the highest ratings.

240 Bulworth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:11:50pm

re: #235 piratedan

Yeah, which side is more likely to be armed here or to call for “2nd Amendment Solutions” when things don’t go their way?

241 Jayleia  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:12:27pm

re: #236 GeneJockey

Even though Zimmermann is the one that’s charged, Trayvon Martin seems to have been the one put on trial

242 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:12:28pm

DERP:

243 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:13:13pm

re: #226 Kragar

Next thing you know, a tornado will start sweeping up wingnuts and carrying them across the country destroying everything in their path.

WINGNUTNADO!!

244 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:13:13pm

re: #241 Jayleia

Even though Zimmermann is the one that’s charged, Trayvon Martin seems to have been the one put on trial

I know. I really, really wish I could say that surprises me, but I’d be lying.

245 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:14:05pm
246 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:14:19pm

re: #243 Dr Lizardo

WINGNUTNADO!!

Where’d I leave my chainsaw?

247 erik_t  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:14:20pm

re: #239 Amory Blaine

In State Governments, Signs of a Healthier G.O.P.

One of the problems with the claim that the Republican Party is doomed to many years of failure is that it is having plenty of success now — at the state level. The G.O.P. controls 30 of the nation’s governorships, along with a majority of state legislatures.

Yes — a whole slew of the small ones, whose electoral votes are swamped in comparison to high-population blue states. I see people predicting GOP doom in national elections, not in GOHMERT!!!1’s district.

On its face, not Silver’s strongest position paper. Feels a bit clickthrough-bait-y… and I guess it worked on me.

248 Ian G.  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:14:40pm

re: #197 Lidane

The right is gleefully anticipating race riots over a Zimmerman acquittal because they want another BENGHAZI!!1 “scandal” that they can blame on Obama. As much as a bunch of sick fucks as that might make them, I don’t think they’re going to get the satisfaction, even if Zimmerman is acquitted.

249 piratedan  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:15:16pm

re: #240 Bulworth

tbh, I just hate how these guys can never be wrong, show them the science, they ignore it, point out the problems from their own religious texts, they refuse to acknowledge it, show them the math, they disregard it. It’s government by emotional toddlerism.

250 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:15:20pm
251 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:16:37pm

re: #246 GeneJockey

Where’d I leave my chainsaw?

I hope Sharknado comes out on DVD soon, because it’ll be over here in the Czech Republic shortly thereafter.

Films by The Asylum are surprisingly popular here. I guess Czechs, who frequently make oh-so-serious cinema, like a good cheesefest every now and then.

252 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:16:46pm

People entering Tx lege gallery are apparently having to give up any food, water, paper, kleenex, tampons.

Concealed carry firearms ok, tho.
nytimes.com

253 Ian G.  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:17:02pm

re: #16 Vicious Babushka

Birth Place: Bloomfield Hills, MI

Zipcode of the 1% (GM executives, etc.)

Bloomfield Hills, well-known for Romney’s high school alma mater, Cranbrook Academy, which is well-known to me for the amazing climactic scene in “8 Mile” (which I won’t spoil for anyone who hasn’t seen it).

254 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:17:24pm

re: #252 jaunte

People entering Tx lege gallery are apparently having to give up any food, water, paper, kleenex, tampons.

Concealed carry firearms ok, tho.
nytimes.com

?

255 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:17:31pm

re: #243 Dr Lizardo

WINGNUTNADO!!

My idea:

Scientist detect a meteor made completely out of sharks is heading straight for the earth, and only a crack team consisting of Stephen Baldwin, Melanie Brown and their mentor, Adrian Zmed, can stop it.

256 darthstar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:18:11pm
257 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:18:14pm

re: #250 lawhawk

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That is just what the SHARKNADO wants you to think.

258 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:18:30pm

re: #255 Kragar

My idea:

Scientist detect a meteor made completely out of sharks is heading straight for the earth, and only a crack team consisting of Stephen Baldwin, Melanie Brown and their mentor, Adrian Zmed, can stop it.

*Packs up ship, leaves planet*

259 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:18:33pm

re: #254 GeneJockey

?

Confiscating tampons? Texas legislative page gotta be a shit job.

260 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:18:36pm
261 dragonath  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:18:38pm

re: #247 erik_t

OH, PA, NJ, MI, WI, VA, NC, TX, FL, GA

Luckily most of those governors are unpopular. What caused more damage, in the long run, was that entire state governments switched over to the Republican side.

262 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:18:48pm

re: #255 Kragar

My idea:

Scientist detect a meteor made completely out of sharks is heading straight for the earth, and only a crack team consisting of Stephen Baldwin, Melanie Brown and their mentor, Adrian Zmed, can stop it.

I’M THINKING ACADEMY AWARD.

GREATEST.

FILM.

EVER.

263 darthstar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:19:41pm

re: #259 Decatur Deb

Confiscating tampons? Texas legislative page gotta be a shit job.

When tampons are outlawed, only outlaws will use tampons.

264 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:19:49pm

Gah

265 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:20:01pm

re: #260 jaunte

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If only there were some place they could be hidden, so they could be smuggled in…..

266 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:20:46pm

re: #254 GeneJockey

Tampons are bad, but Texas changed its laws making it okay to carry a gun into the state capitol building if you have a CHL permit:

Gun Permit Allows Visitors Quick Access to Texas Capitol

Because really, when you’re debating a contentious issue like abortion, you want armed civilians nearby.

267 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:21:12pm
268 dragonath  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:21:22pm

re: #266 Lidane

They love life THIS much

269 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:21:34pm

Every Texas GOP legislator should have boxes of wire hangers delivered to their offices.

270 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:21:38pm

re: #266 Lidane

He’s not kidding. Texas changed its laws making it okay to carry a gun into the state capitol building if you have a CHL permit:

Gun Permit Allows Visitors Quick Access to Texas Capitol

Because really, when you’re debating a contentious issue like abortion, you want armed civilians nearby.

Well, you know, an armed society is a polite society. Just ask Somalia.

271 Joanne  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:22:35pm

...

272 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:22:40pm

re: #267 jaunte

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Youtube Video

BEARS!

273 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:22:43pm

re: #266 Lidane

He’s not kidding. Texas changed its laws making it okay to carry a gun into the state capitol building if you have a CHL permit:

Gun Permit Allows Visitors Quick Access to Texas Capitol

Because really, when you’re debating a contentious issue like abortion, you want armed civilians nearby.

Keep the TEX in KOTEX!

There are no kotex in the 2nd amendment !!1!

274 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:22:44pm
275 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:23:26pm
276 BigPapa  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:23:46pm

The only reasonable response to legislators having tampons and maxipads thrown at them is to shoot them.

If I understand Texas correctly.

277 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:24:01pm
278 Bulworth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:24:15pm

re: #267 jaunte

BRAVERY. COURAGE.

279 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:24:29pm

More of the Republican rebranding to get women on their side.

280 Joanne  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:25:00pm

Freaking iPhone!

281 dragonath  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:26:10pm

Reading that story about Texas flea-market abortion pills earlier was like reading a particularly sordid story about a third-world country in National Geographic.

But the economy is great!

282 RealityBasedSteve  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:26:33pm

re: #255 Kragar

My idea:

Scientist detect a meteor made completely out of sharks is heading straight for the earth, and only a crack team consisting of Stephen Baldwin, Melanie Brown and their mentor, Adrian Zmed, can stop it.

Can we please get a cameo in by Lance Henriksen? If so, I’ll greenlight it in a heartbeat.

RBS

283 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:26:46pm

re: #261 dragonath

OH, PA, NJ, MI, WI, VA, NC, TX, FL, GA

Luckily most of those governors are unpopular. What caused more damage, in the long run, was that entire state governments switched over to the Republican side.

I think we’ll be decades undoing the damage inflicted by the lazy fuckers who thought electing Obama meant they could stay home in 2010.

284 Joanne  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:27:14pm

re: #253 Ian G.

Bloomfield Hills, well-known for Romney’s high school alma mater, Cranbrook Academy, which is well-known to me for the amazing climactic scene in “8 Mile” (which I won’t spoil for anyone who hasn’t seen it).

Use the [ spoiler] tag.

285 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:28:10pm

re: #282 RealityBasedSteve

Can we please get a cameo in by Lance Henriksen? If so, I’ll greenlight it in a heartbeat.

RBS

Lance Henriksen should play the scientist who discovers the meteor.

286 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:28:29pm

re: #282 RealityBasedSteve

Can we please get a cameo in by Lance Henriksen? If so, I’ll greenlight it in a heartbeat.

RBS

He can be the grizzled space station commander who tells them their plan is crazy and it will never work.

287 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:28:46pm
288 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:28:53pm

re: #285 Dr Lizardo

Lance Henriksen should play the scientist who discovers the meteor.

No, that would be David Hasselhoff.

289 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:29:16pm

re: #288 Kragar

No, that would be David Hasselhoff.

EVEN MORE EPIC!

290 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:31:17pm

Okay, for a working title, I just want to run this up the flagpole -

SHARKSTEROID!!!

291 geoffm33  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:31:55pm

Saw this on FB, I’m having a hard time deciphering what is being said, anyone?

So all the media is talking about is the riots that will take place in Miami if Zimmerman is acquitted. Does anyone remember when all the white people rioted after the OJ trial?

292 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:32:12pm

“But how did sharks even get in a meteor?”
“It all goes back to the Great Flood. There were more sharks back then, and the force of the flood ejected them into space, where they froze. As the meteor gets closer to earth, they’re beginning to thaw out… and they’re pissed!”

293 Jayleia  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:32:35pm

Adrian Zmed? What was he in besides T.J. Hooker? Did he become a Wingnut?

What can I say, too many reruns of T.J Hooker, and he DOES have a distinctive name.

294 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:32:41pm

Guns? Not a security risk. Tampons? ZOMG ELEVENTY DERP.


WTF. I weep for this state.

295 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:32:49pm

re: #180 Charles Johnson

OMFG. RT @NatGeopix: Arabian Ferengi Sand Cat. pic.twitter.com/cACsbHMGB8

FTFY

296 ProTARDISLiberal  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:33:15pm

re: #229 Jayleia

Interesting theory. I could find that thing plausible. Especially since the Great Intelligence stated that the Cybermen were one of the races mass slain by the Doctor.

However, the figure of 10 billion killed is too low. The Galaxy that was stated to have been blasted out of existence was said to have trillions of sentients.

297 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:33:42pm

re: #294 Lidane

298 piratedan  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:34:35pm

re: #290 GeneJockey

I humbly suggest

SHARKS FROM SPACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

haz a nice 50’s vibe to it

299 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:34:39pm

re: #292 Kragar

“But how did sharks even get in a meteor?”
“It all goes back to the Great Flood. There were more sharks back then, and the force of the flood ejected them into space, where they froze. As the meteor gets closer to earth, they’re beginning to thaw out… and they’re pissed!”

Tie it in with the Black Sea flood hypothesis. Something like, “At one time, the Black Sea was teeming with sharks - you could almost walk across the Black Sea on the backs of sharks, it was so thick with them.”

300 calochortus  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:34:39pm

re: #291 geoffm33

Saw this on FB, I’m having a hard time deciphering what is being said, anyone?

I believe it means: Black people are savages and criminals, unlike White people.

301 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:34:41pm

re: #292 Kragar

“But how did sharks even get in a meteor?”
“It all goes back to the Great Flood. There were more sharks back then, and the force of the flood ejected them into space, where they froze. As the meteor gets closer to earth, they’re beginning to thaw out… and they’re pissed!”

And when sharks piss, they piss ammonia!

302 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:35:15pm

re: #298 piratedan

I humbly suggest

SHARKS FROM SPACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sharkmeggedon.

303 dragonath  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:35:47pm

Wow, just found out that NC actually cast more votes for Democrats in the 2012 congressional elections.

9 Republicans, 4 Democrats

304 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:36:07pm

re: #298 piratedan

I humbly suggest

SHARKS FROM SPACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Too long. Needs to be one word. Nice use of exclamation points, though!!!!!!!!

305 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:36:20pm

re: #302 Dr Lizardo

Sharkmeggedon.

I’VE GOT IT!

SHARK METEOR!

306 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:36:49pm

re: #302 Dr Lizardo

Sharkmeggedon.

Shark Impact.

307 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:36:50pm

re: #302 Dr Lizardo

Sharkmeggedon.

SHARKPOCALYPSE!!!!!!!

308 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:37:08pm

re: #303 dragonath

Wow, just found out that NC actually cast more votes for Democrats in the 2012 congressional elections.

9 Republicans, 4 Democrats

Ain’t gerrymandering grand?

309 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:38:01pm

re: #307 GeneJockey

SHARKPOCALYPSE!!!!!!!

Awesome.

310 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:38:13pm

re: #306 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Shark Impact.

That’s the one with Morgan Freeman as President, which gets released at about the same time but doesn’t do as well at the box office.

311 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:38:17pm

re: #306 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Shark Impact.

LOLOLOL

312 SidewaysQuark  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:39:16pm

re: #301 GeneJockey

And when sharks piss, they piss ammonia!

I thought they pissed frickin’ “laser beams”.

313 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:39:58pm

re: #310 GeneJockey

That’s the one with Morgan Freeman as President, which gets released at about the same time but doesn’t do as well at the box office.

Where Frodo outruns a tidal wave with a dirt bike

314 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:40:00pm
315 calochortus  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:41:01pm

re: #314 jaunte

But they won’t be able to shoot tampons with them,

316 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:41:11pm

re: #313 Kragar

Where Frodo outruns a tidal wave of sharks with a dirt bike

FTFY

317 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:41:54pm
318 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:42:27pm

re: #317 jaunte

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Excellent!

319 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:42:51pm

re: #317 jaunte

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or worse, a BEARNAMI!

320 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:43:04pm

“Can’t be too careful.”
— David Dewhurst

321 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:45:42pm

re: #315 calochortus

But they won’t be able to shoot tampons with them,

No prob. A .357 can easily get 6 tampons into the Senate.

322 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:46:15pm

New rule:

323 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:47:06pm

re: #322 jaunte

New rule:

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Well, that’ll give them something else to throw.

324 A Mom Anon  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:48:20pm

re: #321 Decatur Deb

I can’t imagine being a state trooper and having to do this.

What a bunch of whiny ass cowards these “legislators” are. What an embarrassment.

325 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:48:24pm
326 SidewaysQuark  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:48:57pm

re: #266 Lidane

Tampons are bad, but Texas changed its laws making it okay to carry a gun into the state capitol building if you have a CHL permit:

Gun Permit Allows Visitors Quick Access to Texas Capitol

Because really, when you’re debating a contentious issue like abortion, you want armed civilians nearby.

If I was a conspiracy theorist I’d say the wacko moves the Texas legislature have made lately were part of a well-planned, concerted effort to make them a blue state ahead of the Democrat Party’s most optimistic predictions.

327 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:50:48pm

Tampon check.
vine.co

328 Ian G.  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:51:28pm

So on the whole “waaaah, Democrats get more votes than we do and it’s JUST NOT FAIR!”, front, this is apparently a real thing.

I almost feel sorrry for wingnuts sometimes. It’s like they just can’t grasp that democracy means that other people who have different values from them will sometimes make changes in policies if they become a large enough majority.

Weld County is the only one among the proposed secessionists that could remotely be described as “urban”. The others all have populations smaller than some Denver zip codes (I imagine).

329 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:51:32pm
330 SidewaysQuark  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:51:46pm

re: #252 jaunte

People entering Tx lege gallery are apparently having to give up any food, water, paper, kleenex, tampons.

Concealed carry firearms ok, tho.
nytimes.com

WTF

Why not just declare menstruating women “unclean and unfit to enter the temple” while they’re at it? You can’t make this crap up.

331 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:52:03pm

re: #327 jaunte

Tampon check.
vine.co

Don’t they have Tampax-sniffing dogs?

332 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:52:23pm

Tampon collection as they let people into the gallery.
twitter.com

333 Jayleia  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:53:48pm

re: #108 ProTARDISLiberal

Also, I don’t currently have End of Time available, so I don’t know what information you’re working off of. :-)

334 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:55:35pm

re: #332 jaunte

Tampon collection as they let people into the gallery.
twitter.com

Old-school Texas women are tough—they’ll fall back on moss and the inner bark of birch trees.

335 SidewaysQuark  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:55:48pm

re: #332 jaunte

Tampon collection as they let people into the gallery.
twitter.com

I really, REALLY hope this is milked for all it’s worth. The Texas GOP really couldn’t have handed their opponents a better advertisement if they had tried.

336 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:57:04pm

All these asinine rules that Texas legislators are coming up with shows just how much disdain so called representatives have for the political process.

Moreover, they’d have to ignore facts such as the number of Texas women who died in 2011 from abortions: zero. The number who died from pregnancy related complicatons: 116.

Following the twitter feed, and I see someone suggesting that the Texas Reps should throw condoms back at the protesters.

Umm…. that would count as free birth control, something that these same Reps oppose - as well as undermining access to birth control through insurance plans, even though expanded access can help reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies.

But that’s wingnut logic 101 for ya…

337 Bulworth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:58:26pm

And Barbara Bush Jr. comes out as a Community Organizer:

Our advocacy for health equity is fueled by the belief that access to quality health care is a human right.

At GHC, we believe the poor, who are burdened the most by disease, deserve our highest quality of care. We know many of the 1.7 million deaths from HIV/AIDS worldwide can be prevented with better access to antiretroviral medicine. We are motivated by the overwhelming costs of health care for the poor and the fact that more than 60% of bankruptcies in the U.S. are caused by medical expenses.

These challenges are daunting, but can be met. We at GHC believe the following four principles are vital to the movement’s success:

1. Young people should be at the center of this cause

More undergraduate students in North America are linking arms and demanding global health curricula while building up community organizing skills. GlobeMed, a nonprofit founded in 2007 by students at Northwestern University that partners with grassroots health organizations around the world, has spread to 55 universities and is joined by several new health organizations.

Yet, a scarcity of opportunities and lack of a supportive global health community keeps too many skilled young professionals from fulfilling their potential after college. It’s a moral imperative to provide young people opportunities in the global health space.

Good grief. Somebody get this gal a copy of Atlas Shrugged.

Seriously, good for Barbara.

338 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:58:45pm

They’re contemptuous of both representative democracy and individual civil liberties. SOP for authoritarians, they want a system where rights and emanate from on high, meted out selectively.

339 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:58:56pm

re: #328 Ian G.

Of course. Wingnuts never tire of whining about being disenfranchised because the Urban Hellholes have more votes than Rural Paradises. It’s like the whole idea of ‘one man, one vote’ is lost on them - “Why should New York City have more clout than this county with 3 people living in it?”

340 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 12:59:21pm
341 Bulworth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:00:06pm

re: #340 jaunte

Because Shut Up. //

342 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:01:00pm

Well, don’t we look like the paragon of democracy around the world…

343 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:01:11pm

re: #338 The Ghost of a Flea

Limited government, unless they control it, then opposition is treason.

344 Bulworth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:01:52pm

re: #340 jaunte

And all the other very important for the health of the womenz regs of abortion clinics. Why the rush? If safety is considered important, maybe there could be an investigation or something. /

345 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:02:20pm

Meet the Group Behind All Those Crappy Ultrasound Laws

“…Analysis of the text show that many of the twenty-five or so existing and pending laws requiring women to receive ultrasounds before having abortions closely mimic The Women’s Ultrasound Right to Know Act model legislation. The Sunlight Foundation compared the legislation in 13 states to the AUL’s model and found that 12 of the 13 samples at least partially matched, including Virginia and Texas.”

346 BigPapa  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:03:29pm

Is there a TPP limit in Texas?

(Tampons Per Purse)

347 A Mom Anon  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:04:10pm

re: #342 Varek Raith

This is fucking disgusting and seriously embarrassing. I really do not think I can take anymore stupidity. Jesus.

348 SidewaysQuark  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:04:17pm

re: #346 BigPapa

Is there a TPP limit in Texas?

(Tampons Per Purse)

Yes, you’re required to have more bullets than tampons at all times.

349 Bulworth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:04:29pm

re: #343 GeneJockey

This

350 Ian G.  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:04:38pm

re: #337 Bulworth

The Bush family always represented decent Yankee Republican values to me, and I think dumbass W. wanted to do the right thing, he just had no idea how to. Barbara seems to be upholding that tradition.

It’s light-years from the neo-confederate lunacy of today’s GOP.

351 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:04:40pm

Dear Texas,
We tried. We really did. You’re just not working out for the Union. We have to let you go. Good luck.

352 urbanmeemaw  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:04:45pm

re: #96 Vicious Babushka After Tiller’s murder, a local Fox-Bot read with a straight face (paraphrase): “Investigators are trying to determine if someone from a pro life group was involved in Dr. Tiller’s murder”. I heard this at 4:30 in the morning and I started screaming at the TV set (which is one of the reasons I no longer watch any local or national propatainment.)

353 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:05:54pm
354 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:05:57pm

Seriously, what the hell kind of banana republic has Texas become?
Yeesh.

355 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:06:48pm

re: #345 jaunte

The TRAP laws being pursued by the right wing/GOP socons is mirrored on each other. It’s not surprising that they’re trying to enact these laws/regs across the country wherever they can, even though they’re unlikely to survive court challenges.

But all it takes is one of them to survive the appellate process to get them another chance slaying the Roe and Planned Parenthood cases.

356 SidewaysQuark  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:06:50pm

re: #350 Ian G.

The Bush family always represented decent Yankee Republican values to me, and I think dumbass W. wanted to do the right thing, he just had no idea how to. Barbara seems to be upholding that tradition.

It’s light-years from the neo-confederate lunacy of today’s GOP.

The days of the relative sanity of Bush Sr., Goldwater, Dole, McCain (pre-2007) and even Nixon (ffs) are a thing of the past in the GOP.

357 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:06:52pm
358 Bulworth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:06:57pm

re: #353 jaunte

Ain’t got no time for ur stoopid amendments. Besides, law was created by outside group who really know what they’re doing. No need to change. //

359 A Mom Anon  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:07:42pm

re: #354 Varek Raith

I hope to god every Democrat running for office uses this crap on an endless loop in every campaign commerical, speech, even print ads. Seriously, fuck this shit.

360 BigPapa  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:08:23pm

re: #351 Varek Raith

Dear Texas,
We tried. We really did. You’re just not working out for the Union. We have to let you go. Good luck.

We wish Texas well on all it’s future endeavors.

361 Bulworth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:08:34pm

re: #350 Ian G.

I imagine Barbara could have done just about anything after graduating from college. Lots of lucrative opportunities probably presented themselves. And nothing wrong if she had gone that route. But nice to see what she’s doing now.

362 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:09:07pm

re: #339 GeneJockey

They’ve got the maps to prove it… all that red space on the map, ignoring that when people actually live in close quarters to each other - urban areas, they overwhelmingly vote Democrat.

363 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:09:33pm

The Syrian Civil war has become a 3 way fight

Secular Syrian rebels said on Friday that the assassination of one of their top commanders by al-Qaeda linked militants in the country “was tantamount to a declaration of war, opening a new front for the Western-backed fighters struggling against President Bashar al-Assad’s forces,” Reuters reports.

“We will not let them get away with it because they want to target us,” a senior Free Syria Army commander said, adding, “We are going to wipe the floor with them.”

364 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:09:57pm

re: #360 BigPapa

We wish Texas well on all it’s future endeavors.

Please do not list us as a reference.

365 Ian G.  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:11:24pm

re: #361 Bulworth

I imagine Barbara could have done just about anything after graduating from college. Lots of lucrative opportunities probably presented themselves. And nothing wrong if she had gone that route. But nice to see what she’s doing now.

No doubt. She could have gone the Romney route and nobody would have batted an eye. Good for her in realizing that there’s more to life than just adding to her family’s immense fortune.

366 Ian G.  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:12:50pm

re: #363 Kragar

I sometimes forget that there are actual good guys in the Syrian civil war, and all I can say is “godspeed” to those who have to fight the Assad-Hezbollah axis on one side, and al-Qaeda on the other.

367 BigPapa  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:13:12pm

After an assessment of our core competencies, a realignment of forward thinking client focused initiatives resulted in the realization that our philosophical concurrencies were not optimally aligned.

368 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:13:36pm

New talking point via NC:


Let’s still ignore that the health care provided by PP and other clinics affected by these TRAP laws are meant to price these groups out of existence, and have nothing to do with public safety. It’s about forcing these groups out of existence.

If public safety were truly the reason, then regulations would be tightened on groups other than abortion clinics, because the mortality rates for the patients is so much worse in places like regular hospitals, clinics, and doctors offices and that natural childbirth is more likely to lead to the woman’s death than a woman seeking an abortion.

The statistics on this are absolutely clear - and absolutely ignored by the pro-lifers because they see this all through the prism of the fetus as a person from conception and ignore the rights of the woman carrying the fetus.

369 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:14:16pm

re: #332 jaunte

Tampon collection as they let people into the gallery.
twitter.com

Just posted that on Facebook. Waiting for my super conservative Texas relatives to explain why this is okay-fine…

370 Weet  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:15:06pm

For anyone that wants to watch the American Taliban finalize their ability to control specific body parts of females in Texas, here’s the livestream.

Link

371 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:15:12pm

I propose we create TRAP laws for gun stores.
I’m tired of this shit.

372 Bulworth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:17:04pm

re: #368 lawhawk

Also, too: less government

Also, too: fertilizer plants, upgrade your facilities.

373 ReamWorks SKG  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:18:21pm

I have a hard time aligning myself with the people who are angry over the George Zimmerman trial for this reason. Look at these recent tweets:

imgur.com

The Jews have had nothing to do with this. Zimmerman isn’t a particularly Jewish name. German Jews with that family name most likely changed it to sound less Jewish. Pianist Kristian Zimmerman or Ethel Zimmerman (“Merman”) weren’t the least bit Jewish. Interestingly, “Martin” is more likely to be a Jewish name. (See en.wikipedia.org )

Both of Mr. Zimmerman’s parents are Christian and he claims to be a devout Catholic.

Yet a significant portion of the African American communities, and the crazy white right-wing communities (and others) insist that George Zimmerman is Jewish (or half-Jewish, whatever that means), and believe that because of this, he gets special treatment, or that there’s some cabal that wants all black youth to be shot.

With half the Internet re-tweeting that old Spike Lee address today, I’m losing faith in humanity.

Even the Washington Post ran a terrible article saying that George Zimmerman had a name that “could have been Jewish.” (articles.washingtonpost.com )

Please leave the Jews out of this one!

But because of this element, I will not stick my neck out for anyone in this case. It is a very sad, unfortunate story all around.

374 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:19:16pm

re: #362 lawhawk

They’ve got the maps to prove it… all that red space on the map, ignoring that when people actually live in close quarters to each other - urban areas, they overwhelmingly vote Democrat.

Yeah, no shit. And they’ll tell you how Bush/McCain/Romney won more counties, or more square miles than Gore/Obama, just as if it mattered a rat’s ass.

A nation is composed of PEOPLE, not ACREAGE.

375 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:21:13pm

re: #374 GeneJockey

Yeah, no shit. And they’ll tell you how Bush/McCain/Romney won more counties, or more square miles than Gore/Obama, just as if it mattered a rat’s ass.

A nation is composed of PEOPLE, not ACREAGE.

The 50 states (if each state had the same number of people)

Image: electoral10-1100.jpg

376 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:21:19pm

re: #362 lawhawk

They’ve got the maps to prove it… all that red space on the map, ignoring that when people actually live in close quarters to each other - urban areas, they overwhelmingly vote Democrat.

But if you REALLY want to piss them off, show them a map of states by how much federal funding they receive as a percent of the federal taxes they pay.

377 Ian G.  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:21:26pm

re: #374 GeneJockey

Yeah, no shit. And they’ll tell you how Bush/McCain/Romney won more counties, or more square miles than Gore/Obama, just as if it mattered a rat’s ass.

A nation is composed of PEOPLE, not ACREAGE.

The rural areas already have disproportionate representation in Washington. Alaska, for example, has 2 senators. So does New York, even though New York has nine, count ‘em, nine counties with more people than all of Alaska.

378 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:24:47pm

#tampongate is trending on the twitters…

379 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:30:42pm

re: #373 ReamWorks SKG

It never came up at trial and you’re broadbrushing a small group of internet idiots onto the rest of us.
Me no like that.
;)

380 urbanmeemaw  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:32:44pm

re: #333 Jayleia

Yes. It’s in the Book of Revelations in the “Plague” section. You know, the raining down of locusts, frogs, and tampons. “Plaguenado” Seriously.

381 ReamWorks SKG  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:34:31pm

re: #379 Varek Raith

Of course it had nothing to do with the trial. But it had everything to do with the various groups of people—on the extreme right and left—who are focused on the trial, and who are fanning the flames.

382 urbanmeemaw  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:34:34pm

re: #337 Bulworth

To be honest, I’ve always liked the Bush girls.

383 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:37:59pm

re: #381 ReamWorks SKG

Of course it had nothing to do with the trial. But it had everything to do with the various groups of people—on the extreme right and left—who are focused on the trial, and who are fanning the flames.

Ok, I may have misread you.

384 ReamWorks SKG  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:45:27pm

Like this (from a few months ago). This is an official statement from the Black Panther Party.

Youtube Video

They’re calling Zimmerman a “dirty Jew”. He’s not the least bit Jewish, but it becomes a Jewish thing. That’s outrageous.

385 Jayleia  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:53:31pm

re: #380 urbanmeemaw

*loooks confused, then realizes*

We got the Sharknado thread in the Doctor Who thread. :-P

386 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:58:07pm

re: #385 Jayleia

*loooks confused, then realizes*

We got the Sharknado thread in the Doctor Who thread. :-P

You got Doctor Who in the SHARKNADO! thread.

Put them together and you get…

Image: 22352.jpg

387 ProTARDISLiberal  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:01:05pm

re: #386 Kragar

A Christmas Carol!

388 labman57  Sat, Jul 13, 2013 3:12:25pm

All of the recent remarks and antics by Ryan, Gohmert, Stockman, et al. simply provide additional evidence that the Congressional GOP doesn’t give a crap about socio-economically disadvantaged American families — their standard m.o. continues to be to use anecdotal examples and snarky retorts to legitimate concerns in a pathetic effort to justify their callous lack of empathy.

Exhibit A — at a time when there are a greater number of American families in poverty … they suggest that it makes perfect sense to reduce the number of families that can qualify for food stamps and to slash the financial support provided to each of these struggling families.

So do you feed the kids, pay the heating bill, or gas up the car (assuming that you even own one) so that you can go to work? Take your pick.


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